We all say Kosm edition
Old >>128753508
>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html
>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses
>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)
>Resources Pastebin - Character Planners, MP Range/Weapon AR Calculator, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans(Base Game & DLC) and Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr
>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems/Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer and Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv
>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art and Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj
>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX
>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101, Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info and DLC Guide Scans
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YfVIJMvM1Y
I'm cringing so hard.
>>128792456
Whew, thanks for making a new thrread anon, I was panicking
To that guy who needed help with Ebrietas, whats the pass? Ill be there soon
Kirk.
OOH! MAJESTIC!
What kinda stat build do I want if I wanna mess around with amygdalan arm and HMS
Anyone for Ebrietas? Could use a hand. Asked in the last thread but it 404d before I could reply to the anon that was gonna help.
Pass is bbg
WHEEL
>>128792456
Since people were in an arcane talking mood at the end of last thread:
I just got past ludwig on ng+ im still going through the dlc. But I'm liking the HMS. But Im thinking of doing a brand new arcane character with HMS and Kos parasite as weapons.
How would I start, how fast should I try to get through the dlc and would the cane be an alright starting weapon? im bored of the cleaver/axe.
Hey I need help with rom in chalice dungeons
>finished the game almost tree times now and I still have no idea what the fuck is going on story-wise
>>128792990
Go read up.
I thought you could only get Accursed Brew after OoK
>>128792771
Ringing at the fog bruh.
>>128792990
>big ritual night at Mensis HQ
>gonna git dat insight mane
>hunter says no, possibly Gehrman does too
>everything goes absolutely tits up
>stopped that ritual though
>>128792771
THis guy here,>>128792610
Im not the guy from the other thread but Im ringingWHEEL
Oops, sorry you died bro. lets try again
>>128793104
damn, sorry man. got me while i was healing. down for another try?
>>128793060
I somehow want to understand it without the use of wiki
>>128793261
ringing
>>128792567
what an annoying voice and manner to speak in.
>>128792990
a shit ton is speculation but just watch the vaati videos to get an idea of the lore. either that or find an easier place to find a comprehensive list of all the lore notes and draw your own conclusions.behold! a paleblood sky!
>>128792456
So...what's the trick to defeating Orphan? Is there a good side to dodge to? Do I stay close to him? What's he weak to? I just want the Parasite and to end this DLC.
>>128793264
>he
Sure.
I'm a different anon btw.
>>128792908
Anyone?
>Patches can appear in chalice dungeons on extremely rare occasions to sell you items at drastically inflated prices
>There is an extremely rare enemy that can only be encountered in chalice dungeons called a Hole Digger. It resembles a naked mole rat with a mangled squid for a face, and has an 8% chance to drop heavy blood gems
I will never discover everything this game has to offer.
>cant defeat boss (with LHB)
>take beast blood pellet
>it is now jokingly easy
It's like cheating, what the fuck
>>128793376
Well, first thing you need to understand is a lot of stuff is intentionally left up to speculation and interpretation. There are some definite events and things, but how to string them together can be up to you. You're just thrust into this mess balls deep, you can't be expected to understand the full depth of what's been going on the whole time. In fact, I doubt anyone in-game actually knows the full story. We're dealing with stuff beyond the human ken here, too, part of that idea is you can't possibly comprehend the full breadth of the events.
>>128792859
I shouldn't bother responding to you, but jesus christ you fucking self-absorbed retard, you post that dumb-ass lackluster gif every fucking thread.
Get some original content or get the fuck out.
preferably the second you colossal faggot
>>128792975
I need help on rom the spider in the lower pthumerian psn. Time_72
SON OF A FUCK BRO
HE WAS DEAD
HE WAS FUCKING DEAD
its ok, lemme get my viles and ill ring again
>>128793743
I only post it when someone posts the Kosm meme.
>>128793792
I know. I got greedy and ran in to finish him off but got fucking combod. I'll ring again, pass is bbg
if anyone else wants in we're at ebreitas
>>128793792
Btw im talking about the guy wanting help with ebriatas, Im ringing again bro
when was fight club starting? is anyone gonna stream it this time too?
>>128793874
So every thread
REALLY PROVED ME WRONG MAN
FUCK
I WAS
B
T
F
O
>>128793702
that is awesome, thanks for the explanation
>suck cocks in duels with all STR weapons except MLG, Pizza and Axe
Feels bad and bored.
>>128793675
There's 2 or 3 tiers of coldblood above Great One Coldblood. The highest known, Revered Great One Coldblood, gives 100k souls and has yet to be actually discovered ingame.
There's also a 3rd tier to the Guidance rune introduced in the dlc that exists only in chalice dungeons and has yet to be discovered. We'd still question if it even exists were it not for the guide confirming it.
Lost on how Attire works in this game. Im at Shadow and still using the Hunter set, is that bad?
>>128793786
pass?
>>128792908
kos only benefits from arcane. pure arcane builds have stuff like the beginning weapons + parasite of kos now. a good HMS build could obviously use kos, but it'd be terribly weak.
if you still want to do it, look at the arcane beginners guide posted around the thread. if you're going HMS, then you'll have some STR and maybe you can use whirligig saw to get through bosses (gem it up).
Hah, thanks ebrietas bros
>>128793967
It's okay. I forgive you, anon.
>>128793996
The axe and pizza cutter are both really fun and compliment one another really well, so using them on the same build is amazing.
>>128793965
FC in 1 hour and 15 minutes
>>128793946
Im the WHEEL fag, it was fun helping, thats my favorite boss so I didnt mind fighting him 3 times
That was fun, thanks 3rd guy, Ebrietas went down fast with 3
>>128794083
I was saying I still need help because I think I was list in the flood of messages
>>128794067
no, the defenses are not really different with each set so just wear what you like
>>128794067
Attire has stats and looks
The stat differences are small and largely arbitrary, they're mainly just there for show
The main purpose of clothes is just fashion, so wear whatever looks best.
The only stats tied to clothes that matter are beasthood and frenzy. The former only matters if you use beast pellets regularly, and the latter only matters in like 2 areas in the game. In both cases, insight and runes have a much larger impact on that stat than your attire.
>>128794286
Okedoke, thanks fambamthankyoumam
>>128794065
>and has yet to be actually discovered ingame
Holy shit
>There's also a 3rd tier to the Guidance rune introduced in the dlc that exists only in chalice dungeons and has yet to be discovered.
HOLY SHIT
>>128794241
so is Time_72 your password?
>>128794067
Attire means very very little. It's mostly just for being stylish, except for a few stats.
For instance. Charred Hunter set has great fire resistance. Black and White Church garb has good poison resistances. Ashen Hunter set has incredibly useful Frenzy resistance. Henryk's Hunter set has good Bolt resistance. The Cainhurst set supposedly has the best physical resistance in the game, but that's basically pointless.
Keep Ashen and Black/White Church around because it has tangible effects, equip when needs be, everything else is pure Fashionborne.
>>128794234
>>128794337
How high should my insight be? I mean I've used a few to summon if a boss is kicking my ass.
>>128794396
Yes
>somebody had to model the pig butts
>>128794498
Insight doesn't matter statistically, since it lowers your frenzy resistance the more of it you have. Just don't worry about it.
Looking through the chalice speedrun guide, what's the point of lower loran? It says you don't need to complete it.
>>128794498
Higher insight reduces beasthood (reducing the effectiveness of pellets) and reduces frenzy resistance. It has some subtle effects on the game, such as making you see a few things that aren't normally visible, and giving buffs/ new attacks to the church guys in cathedral ward.
It's primary use is as a currency. By the end of the game, you can buy blood rocks for 60 insight and chunks for 20
>>128794570
>>128794454
imagine BSing that pig and pulling out a part of the Loli
>BS pic
>retrieved loli skull
Who else hype for fightclub? Post your characters so we know who's who
i know im generic but I love WHEEL
>>128794689
access lower loran roots
>>128794454
>>128794689
Loran is for waning gems. Only arc builds want waning gems. Arcane itself is better off with a triangle gem instead of a waning one, and fire can go either waning or triangle. Only bolt actually requires a waning gem to be optimal.
So unless you're an arcane build with the intent of using bolt, you have no real reason to access lower loran root frc dungeons.
The only other thing of interest in them is the tier 3 stamina rune, but clearing all of lower loran and killing camerabeast just for that one rune is kinda pointless when you can make do with the 2nd tier for only a 5% difference.
>>128794795
>so we know who's who
but we're all anon and we didn't invite le reddit or fb
>>128794639
>>128794716
Appreciated, guys.
>>128794795how do I get the pics taken using the ps screenshot system to my pc harddrive, can I access the cloud somewhere or something?
>>128794915
>arm is covered in the pig's anal blood
touching
>>128794795
>wheel shitter
Nice dash R1, bruh :^
>>128795018
Just use a thumbdrive
>>128795018
You can put them right on a usb drive or upload them to Twitter/Facebook.
If you choose the latter, replace large with orig at the end of the image url to get the full size image.
>>128795018
Get a usb drive, put it in ps4 and go to your screenshots, import them, then upload here :)
>>128795013
i didnt mean it like that, I was just trying to get everyones look
ITS FIGHT CLUB NIGGA
>>128795108
t. Annalise
>>128792975
In need help with rom in lower pthumain password is Time_72
>>128792567
>watch the whole vid
>although DaS was discussed 1000 times already and have a opinion about it
Time to an hero.
>>128795136
>>128795189
>>128795193
thanks, I didn't expect it to be that easy for some stupid reason
>>128794207
Look for me bros
>>128795228
I have been ringing for 8 mins
>>128795297
toogenerictorecognize/10
>>128794795
FOUND ME MALLET
>>128794795
EUSTACE REPORTING IN
FOUND ME MALLET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFkk3qjuu1U
is that faggot lucy is going to attend FC? If so i can't wait to beat the fuck out of that repulsive tranny.
>>128794207
what is the bl?
>>128795417
>he actually made the build
You should be wearing the sweaty clothes
>>128792456
What's a good method for taking out Orphan of Kos? Is there a side I can dodge to, a particular weakness he has?
>>128795360
I been waiting for 30 minutes man
>>128795481
>most are BL 250
>>128795481
can you fucking read
>>128795472
he needs more time:^)
>>128795417
SHIT I MESSED UP POST
BLAH BLAH BLAH
>>128795534
Is your game set to worldwide?
>>128795472
no, he knows he's fucking terrible at it so he "doesnt have time" but decides to give out build advice
>>128792769
Anyone? 50 Strength 25 Arc? Or just pure strength?
>>128795523
GOOD IDEA
you all said "oh theres no such thing as a eustace build"
WELL HERE I AM WITH ME MALLETposting sweaty clothes pic in a second
>>128795360
This is some sick joke game
>people making fun of my wheel
Y-YOU'LL SEE, JUST WAIT TILL FIGHTCLUB!is level 90 good enough? i know its 80-120
Why does /bbg/ hate VaatiVidya?
>>128795864
Stop using your shitty ass phone to take pictures jesus
>>128795749
Amy arm is pure strength. The arc damage is token, just like the BoM and BB. Probably just there so you can't buff and double-dip the flat bonus on the R2s.
HMS is strength-leaning quality. The arcane is its weakest scaling stat, but gets a large modifier in tricked mode, making it as efficient as skill in that mode only. The projectiles are pure arc damage and based off your arc AR, but the actual swing portion of the R2 acts as a normal split damage swing.
If you want to optimize for most of the attacks, 50/25 str/skl is probably best but without any arcane the tricked R2s will be useless. You can compromise skl for arc to make the R2s worthwhile, but the untricked form will lose a fair bit of damage.
Ideally you want all 3 but you can't really fit them all onto a build at a reasonable level, so just choose which you want to compromise.
And remember, regardless of how you build it, you want triple nourishing gems for best overall damage.
>>128796130
hope you have max gems lad or you'll probably find this fc a lot less hype after a few minutes
Who here /pretty average gems for the FC/?
>>128796173
I'm sorry I just lazy af
You know, I refuse to believe that the devs looked at fights like the Abhorrent Beast and decided "yeah, this is fun. Let's keep this. Players will enjoy beating this, for sure."
>>128796243
My first FC was a few weeks ago and I had about a ~60% winrate using dlc brain gems. I fought more people using gems as bad as mine than I did people using top korea. I've spent some time in Seoul since then, but I'm sure there's still gonna be plenty of people that aren't perfectly gemmed.
>snailgirls are immune to bolt
>Trying to get to the Blood Rock
>At 99 Insight
Now this is fucking majestic
>>128796243
>still haven't upgraded my gems since last FC
Hello 245 damage per hit, how are you?
>>128796363
I hope you're not implying that he's unfair in any way.
>>128796430
>beat Wetnurse
>buy rock with insight
>get mensis rock
>>128796237
n-noshit man hype is gone now
Can someone post the Gilbert fan art? The one with all the paintings in one picture if possible.
>>128796420
I guess you could say it's quiteshocking
>>128796391
I only have +/- 20% gems on my weapons. Going to have to rely on my superior skills
>>128796523
I also need the Living String
>>128796534
newlads always roll into fcs super excited and then leave complaining about chalice rngs being a time sink because they get bodied
>>128796534
I'll slot some of my 31% blunt gems into my str wheel just for you, anon.They're all HP depletes -9 anyways
>>128796509
>Fight a guy in Mensis with 27ns doing 230 damage per hit with Saif
>>128796605
For pthumeru ihyll? You and me both, bruv.
>>128796593
better than mines
>>128796243
IVE GOT PRETTY SHIT GEMS, I DONT CARE
CANT SMASH A VILEBLOOD WITHOUT ME MALLET
thanks to the guy who suggested sweaty clothes, i went and got them and they look much better
>>128796703
Few things feel worse than playing perfectly, hitting someone about 7 times and having them down to about half HP, only to get phantomhit by the unzip of Kim Jong Un himself and lose 90% of yours.
I remember my first every fight in the fc was some australian with a flat arc wheel. It was that moment when I learned the importance of gems.
>>128797018
such is the cycle
>>128796186
So if both those weapons work fine off just strength, what's the best variant of strength builds?
Wheel fag here, my gems are
18%+ Physical Damage
ATK UP 15%+
Physical Atack Up 12%+, Charge atk up 4%+
How fucked am I?
Anyone wanna gangbang Micolash with me real quick? Let me know if you're in and I'll set a pass
>>128797258
What's your AR with that?
>>128796509
>I hope you're not implying that he's unfair in any way.
He's a gigantic chore who seemed to be designed by "XD, so hard prepare to die LMAO!" people. You have no breathing room at all, and he's incredibly hard to punish if you have a slow weapon. That would be fine if not for the giant HP pool which doesn't match it at all, and turns it into a laborious endurance match just like most chalice/DLC bosses. This trend of making all bosses have HP bars the size of the universe is cancerous and makes me lose faith in the future of the souls series.
>>128797258
wew lad try it and see, might be ok if you find yourself up against some of the other goobers with dlc gems
>>128797303
Don't forget the STRATS
>>128797303
Yeah.
>>128797463
alright, pass is bbg, bell is rung
>>128796881
Student uniform without the cape could work too
>>128797309
Arc? 12, but here are my statsplot twist: im wheelfag AND eustace fag
>>128797385
They don't even have that much health if you are fighting them at a proper level with a properly upgraded weapon. The usually last around 3 minutes, which I consider to be about right for a boss fight.
The only boss fight I consider overly tedious these days is the Chalice Rom fight.
>>128797559
Ringing at the gate.
>>128796363
I enjoyed it. If you're having difficulties, use poison knives and regular knives to bait out his running attacks and punish them.
>>128797163
Something like 50/20/50/15/7/6 works well for BL 98
Feel free to change end and skl around or add a point to bt for repeater pistol
>>128797669
AR means attack rating. Check the stats screen and it'll give you a readout of the aggregate damage types as a single number that go into your weapons' damage calculations. It should be something like 600 for a str wheel.
>>128797762
>hmls
>6arc
wew
>>128797669
forgot pic, Im a retard
>>128797693Literally the only time I have fun fighting any version of Rom is when I manage to one cycle him. Fuck spiders.
>>128797385
It sounds like you just have shit damage. By the time I fought both Abhorrent Beasts (you fight two relatively close to each other) I was doing good damage with my +10 kirkhammer. Not to mention, he has one of the easiest movesets to memorize and his damage isn't large enough to give you trouble unless you stupidly attack him head on. Also, saying most chalice bosses are endurance matches is laughable, get some better fucking equipment and git gud. The only consistently difficult bosses in the game are Gehrman, Orphan, and cursed/defiled chalice bosses.
>set up the chalice for FC
>someone left a message in the ring
>Oh I can't wait... hee hee...
Which one of you was that?
>>128792769
HMLS should be 25/25/25 at 98.
At 120 it should be 50/25/25 or 25/25/50 depending on what you prefer.
>>128798216
will you please stop giving out horrible advice
>>128798676
Could you stop trying to troll unless you are going to out some actually effort into it.
Im ringing in the FC. A little early but who cares. I'm level 105 FYI
>>128798750
>>128797876
Shit lol I didn't see that
Arc is for fags and pretty boys anyway
will strength builds ever be good in a from game
>>128798841
He's right you lying sack of shit, go back eating your bags of dicks alone fucktard.
New [first week] to Bloodborne and read the pastebin on Chalice Dungeonswhich doesn't make a whole lot of sense to a noob, but, I'll figure it out, put those spoons awayand I had just one question:
What level do you want to be when you start all this? Weapon +9 or +10? I saw the screenshots had a BL98 guy doing them. Are they easy at that point?
>>128799051
>Arc is for fags and pretty boys anyway
I will fight you.From behind several spiders
>>128799160
They were in Demon's Souls and have been meh ever since.
I miss the days when STR weapons actually had damage and hyper armour.
Can you be a cauliflower in the Yharnam Sunrise cutscene?
>>128799208
You're supposed to play them as you progress through the game. You can wait ages and just breeze through the first few.
>>128799187
Could you stop trying to troll unless you are going to out some actually effort into it.
Ad hominems are so passe.
>>128799208
You should be doing them at the same time as the main game. Just do them until they get too tough then go back to the main game. At level 98 with a +9 weapon, you will just cruise through them.
>>128799208
The first chalice is accessible after blood-starved beast and balanced for that point in the game (eg., +2-+3 weapon). They progress in difficulty from there progressively. Lower pthumeru is around endgame (eg. +7 or 8 weapon) and everything from Loran onwards is effectively postgame content and will be more difficult than anyuthing you encounter in the main game (dlc notwithstanding)
>>128799160
ds1
>>128799208
98 is the PvP meta around here
The final end-tier chalices were balanced around 120, but by the time you get to them you should have acquired enough skill to do them by 98. Honestly though, since that's just PvP meta, you shouldn't worry about that until you want to become a minmaxed munchkin
Chalices are confusing as fuck to get into, and the overall opinion of them can be kind of polarizing. Just worry about playing through the main story first before you bother with this shit
Anyone want to help me with orphan? I'm at the lighthouse lamp and pass is squid
>>128799465
yes
>>128798216
>>128798841
>>128799479
No, the anon is right, 25/25/25 is a shit idea for the HMS.
>>128799652
I've seen 50str/25arc as the recommended
>>128799464
they were only good if you exclusively spammed rolling attacks because those weren't slow as dirt
>>128799545
Shit opinon.
Doing the story chalices after you're OP and high level is boredom central.
You do the chalices the SECOND you unlock the ability to do so. You do them as you go through the main game and unlock the materials to go further. That way you break them up instead of a gigantic slog through them in one sitting.
>>128799208
I also have a question:
I did 2 chalice dungeons which were piss easy, how do I know how difficult dungeon I'm creating? can I just make a really difficult one to get the gems I want?
>>128799943
>HMS scales the same off both
This is wrong. Please do your research before pounding that keyboard. All of the relevant information to educate yourself is in the OP. There's no reason to make a fool of yourself in ignorance like this.
>>128799652
Samefagging aside, you have yet to defend that claim logically even once.
If you want to fight. I'm in 6cb ringing my bell.
How did these get up there? Is it from the floor above?
>>128800024
you sound like a meme
I'm not the only one who thought of making save states for various level points, but I want to make sure there's no softban bullshit before doing this. Is this safe?
>>128800043
Lucy why dont you show us how the damage is with 25/25/25?
>>128799943
wow
you are a fucking retard
HMS scales like shit with skl
you will get more damage from 50/12/25 than you will from 50/25/15
>>128799479
>still being this horrible at giving advices for years
It just that trannys don't have enough intelligence to give advice since they only think of all kinds of dick to suck while being sexually retarded:^)
Why do /bbg/ has Demon Souls in such a high regard?
I played it after BB and it has aged horribly, the framerate is bad, the ambiance is bad except for tower of latria, bosses are dull the combat is clunky, pvp is broken.
Explain, with out redirecting this post to /dsg/
>chik has a cool follow up attack if you do the tricked charged r2
Too bad it follows such a shitty attack.
>>128800229
/dsg/ is not here
>it's another thread full of retarded faggots who give the autistic tripfag more attention
>>128800229>>/dsg/
>>128800229
because it has some of the best movesets in the series, it has some of the most brokenly fun builds in the series and because you're a tremendous faggot
How the fuck do you beat the Meme Presence jesus christ I've been on it for 3 days now
>>128800229
Fuck off
>>128800380
I thought we were passed this for like a whole day but then it got even worse
did bloodborne go FTP in brazil or something because this thread is nothing but illiterate retards parroting dumb shit
>>128800229
It's what Dark Souls should have been; git gud or go home. The amount of fucking handholding in Dark Souls 2, especially in PvP, is unforgivable.
>Get invaded
>Sprint back to bonfire, summon people to play the game for you
>Or join the covenant that automatically summons phantoms to help you when you get invaded and shows the invaders location to the phantom
>Or do both because you're a faggot
>>128800365
>>128800487
This arguments are not convincing.
>>128800519
>because it has some of the best movesets in the series
You can't be serious.
>>128800527
g_t g_d
>>128800229
Because it's still a well put together game and arguably the most complete besides BB.
Take this to /dsg/
>>128800619
I can and am.
:^)
>>128800602
I don't remember DeS being harder than DaS.
>>128800229
Nothing we say is going to convince you
It's pretty blatant from your tone that you've already made up your mind, so there's no point in even having this conversation
You're just here to stir shit like a tremendous faggot
>tfw world tendency comes back in DS3
>>128800229
Because after PtDE, the majority of the souls fanbase had never touched a ps3 before, making the people who had played DeS a very small minority. As a minority, they could claim hipster credit by namedropping DeS, and insist that it's the best game in the series and vastly superior to multiplatform plebsouls without needing to worry about pc and xbox players ever actually checking it out for themselves and realizing it was elitist fiction and special snowflake groupthink.
This isn't really the best place to ask, because most of the same insecure hipsters desperate for distinction who insist that DeS was the best game in the franchise are, unsurprisingly, ps4 and BB owners.
Being a console exclusive automatically allows for the claim that a game is better than similar multiplatform titles, for the simple reason that the majority can't actually play the game in question and confirm that you're full of shit.
>>128800798
I just wanted to know why, but I forgot that I would trigger your autism.
>>128800570
Newfriends are here in full force, it's only been three or four weeks since Christmas.
>anon asked earlier if he should upgrade his weapon to +9 or +10
This is my evidence.
>>128800794
That's either because you played it after DaS or the fact that it is literally the easiest Souls game in the series.
>>128800923
>soul memory
>>128792456
BEAT THE FUCKEN ORPHAN
That second form is some of the scariest shit I've ever seen. But the first first form gave me much more trouble, I beat him first time seeing his second phase. Died around 40 times prior to that, but still.
Orphan placenta weapon DLC when?
>>128800923
I'd be okay with this if there was a way to game it without going offline.
Tfw I'm getting two spotted in FC
;_;
>>128800527
Treat him like a beast boss. Dodge forward through his attacks, wail on his ass, and instead of fire, use bolt papaer and he'll go down like a chump. That attack where he drops you to one health is just him begging you to use the rally system on him.
Just watch out for that attack that stops you from using vials. He leaves these grey auras on the ground that trigger the effect if you walk into them I think. You can still pound away on him while he releases them though.
>few people can handle the pokey style of the church pick
This is rather fun
>>128800959
this
>get invaded by some try hard in FC
>he attacks before I even blood bullet
>wreck him without getting hit once
I hope you weren't from here you fag.
>>128800970
Why the fuck would you ask here and not the general dedicated to discussing the game you're talking about?
>>128800923
I actually want World Tendency, but attached to a REAL time of day system.
X Gate only opens at night. Y Door opens during early morning. Enemies change spawn and location and move all during the day and night.
>>128801310
It was probably an SRRC. You'll get a lot of those in the FC. Just be thankful yours came at you right away instead of hiding by the lever for 10 minutes.
>>128801394
obviously to stir shit
>>128801394
Because everybody on /dsg/ agrees that Demon Souls aged poorly. I wanted to know what the opinion of the other souls general was, so far everybody is flipping their shit with out giving a decent argument.
Are there softbans in this game, does reloading saves from USB/Online fuck anything up?
>>128799485
that isn't exactly true
>>128801656
It's a fucking console, why should there anti cheater tools?
>>128801712
Did you forget to finish your post?
Where's the argument and supporting facts?
>>128801409
I'd love day cycles in a soul games. Also changing weather
>it will never piss down rain in UCW
>>128801656
No
>>128801656
No because A team aren't a bunch of fucking assholes
>>128801537
>x aged poorly
Only retarded children say this
>keep getting invaded/invading Lillith
I can't believe I fucked up that unzip.
>>128801537
That's because this line of questioning doesn't belong here, and given your tone and subject matter, everybody assumes you were just trying to get attention. Demon's Souls is well regarded because there's nothing objectively wrong with it outside of the performanceand Dragon God. It's just a complete feeling game with no real weaknesses. I know this isn't a complete explanation, but that's because I want to participate in the FC real bad so I'm abandoning the thread.
>>128801956
Amazing argument right here.
>>128792456
Is the Orphan of Kos a Pthumerian or related to one? Or did some ancient Pthumerian get that Great One ocean pussy?
>>128801537
I gave a valid reason as to why I really like demon's souls and your response was to not take it seriously.
That's your own fault. Now fuck off.
>>128801776
Ask d3g or any other console game played online with local saves.
>>128797749
what's your build?
>>128801298
>>128800959
absolute shitters. demon's souls hasn't aged well, but it's the first title released in the series and its spiritual successor is unfinished and not as good in some aspects.
reporting lucy is a fun mini game, enjoy your ban faggot
>tfw just lost 3 mil echoes on the research hall because i couldnt find which stair lead to where I died.
I had been in the place one time, i got all the way up without dying, turned the crank, went back down and died. Np I said, I'll just climb up again, lo and behold I couldnt find the part of the stairs where I died because everything had changed and it was my second time even seeing the area so I fucking lost like a scrub.
Im so effing salty right now.
Post stories where the game royally fucked you.
>>128802043
>stop hurting my feelings
Really?
>>128802048
No arguments here, just accusations
>>128802115
50 vit, 16 end,12 STR, 11 SKL, 50 arc
>>128802181
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed his disappearance as this started
>>128802183
The watchers boss room constantly steals my blood echoes.
What does a space squid eat?
>>128802201
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>128802351
I think I've lost something to the order of 5mil echoes farming watchers. Not that it even matters, since you end up with another mill almost right away.
>>128801018
>Those screams before every attack.
The Orphan is terrifying man. That whole fight with him was intense.
tfw just got killed by cauliflower
>>128802360
Soup.
>>128801956
It's usually PC players that say that. If it doesn't pander to PC-petition race then "it's bad."
>>128802043
Dragon God was actually fun, and it was nice to get some payback on him after the tutorial. It was actually a better puzzle boss than BoC. It was certainly more fun than the Micolas Cage fight in BB.
>>128802050
I just assume the Orphan is just the shadow and the body he fights in is actually jacked from someone else.
>>128802181
You can get banned for false reporting.
>>128802469
that was me:^ )
>>128802351
Reload the area and the bloodstain reappears
>>128802469
I got killed by an ayy just 2 minutes ago. They got some nice gems.
>>128802504
Yeah but what kinda soup?
>>128802546
I liked DG as well, I just don't think he was put together in a great way. Yes he is much better than BoC
What the hell was that Marcus, go pump some Vit
>>128802546
>implying anyone serves their ban
Only tripfags serve their ban. Except you since we know you routinely answer yourself untripped.
>>128802671
Green soup.
>afk
>autist attack you
>trying reset fight
>autist keep attacking
Galaxy, are you retard or what?
Why do arcane guides recommend the threaded cane as a starting weapon? Especially since youll switch it out for the saw spear (if you're following the arcane guide in op), why not just go for the cleaver or axe to get the damage in the beginning?
not gonna stop me from trying
Who here /throw down coin on victory/?
>>128802902
You get the saw spear before Gascoigne anyway so it doesn't matter. You choose the cane so you don't have to buy it later. It saves you like 1200 BE at endgame so feel free to start with whatever you like, you'll be using saw spear forever anyawy
>>128802902
because threaded cane makes for a good elemental weapon later on
>>128802897
Not even that guy but why the fuck are you afk when you can get invaded?
Quit when you go to take a shit next time.
dat phantom range DISCORD GODDAMMIT
>>128803172
Will be doing it now, winning too many fights to do nothing.
mfw lag fucks me over
Who here has fought a Clint so far?
Also am I the only one that loves this Crowsteel X hunter fanart?
Anybody feel like carrying a weak-ass level 29 through Ludwig's fight? I"m trying to rush for his sword on a new character. Sitting outside his room now.
>>128803389
ayy here
>>128803389
Yea sorry hitting you before the fight.
>>128803389
wot
>>128803575
Pass?
DeathStalkerRai will be coming to the FC shortly.
Don't disappoint me /bbg/
Fuck Mozart sorry I forgot about the host handicap, it's my first FC
>>128803582
I've never fought cauliflower before. I can understand now why I was doing pretty well as one in last weeks fc.
>>128803638
My characters name. Doing fight club.
>>128803241
This. Quitting is basically the pause function in Souls games.
>>128803575
uh, how about "carrymeplz" sorry, lemme know when ur ringin and i'll ring
>>128799160
You've never played Demons Souls. DBS and Greataxe were legit top-tier.
>>128803762
you're a madman
>>128803241
even in a fight club? you just can't wait 30 seconds?
Does anyone have any advice on how to beat that guy at the end of Eileen's quest line
I can't last 10 seconds against him without getting parried and eating a one hit kill visceral
>>128803904
-lz, "carrymep" cause 2 long.
>>128803762
>DeathStalkerRai is Kobra
Carry me through Orphan please, pass is squid outside the fog gate
>>128804059
Git gud.
>>128804123
Ringing now
>>128803762
your a fucking faggot, attacking people while they're going through their menus
>>128804059
circle strafe + parry
>>128804239
If you honestly think that's me you should probably kill yourself
>>128792990
This post is what's given me the best understanding of it so far.
>>128803573
No I like it too, but desu I'd prefer some Crowsteel x Maria fanart. They're my OTP.
>>128803575
I'm trying to do it at Level 32 for the laser sword as well.
>tfw you don't want to ask for help because you might make a mistake and waste someone's time
I'd rather hide on the balcony and let the co-op and Valtr take care of him. So I'm trying the "git gud" strategy.
>>128804296
then I just get shot in the face
>>128804059
Depends on your weapon. You can catch him after dodges just by spamming R1 with ludwigs untransformed or saw cleaver, just be mindful of being parried.
When he 2hands you can just run up and fire in his face and you'll get the parry
>Oh anon, why don't you put that game down and spend some time with me instead~
>>128803573
who the fuck is crowsteel
>that naked old guy with nothing but fist and mensis cage
>All these conflicting opinions about HMS
I'm getting really confused. The most I understand is that getting a lost version and nourishing gems is ideal, but as for what to spec for in stats throws me off.
>>128804528
Face too greasy.
Try something funnier or more creative Eustace, this shit is boring.
>>128804419
If you are circle strafing at a proper distance then all of his shots will miss. The when he tries a sprinting attack, you just parry him.
>>128804570
The guy in this webm >>128804474
>>128804232
lol worth a shot, I gotta run, Ill just try to get stronger for now. thanks for the help though!
>>128803573
>self inserting as a female like a gay cuck
Fuck off
>>128804313
who that autist is needs to choke on a bag of dick promptly. I apologize for the misdirected hostility.
>>128804528
>no comfy shawl
>no ball joints
>no Yoshitaka eyes
>no bonnet
>no white skin
GIT
OUT
>>128804474
>3240 visceral
what the shit
>>128794915
>things that will never happen.jpg
>>128804691
Im sorry what?
>>128804601
here
>>128804724
Over leveled as fuck and using claw runes
>>128804691
>not self-inserting as Crowsteel
>>128804601
So retard here, why use the lost one?
>heal heal heal
>r1r1r1
>this fuckin retard is unparryble for unknow reason
>lost connection
Who is Galaxy here?
>>128804616
Elbows too sharp imho tbqh 2/10 would not bang
>>128804059
Keep your distance while he drains his own health away with the Chikage.
Don't get shot, he always sidesteps before shooting.
When he reaches 25% health he won't transform the Chikage anymore. Move in, don't get greedy. Throwables if you want to be safer.
So what's with these tall spoopy bitches in the chalice dungeons that just walk around glowing and don't attack you
Eustace, what are you doing man?
>>128804474
But how do I actually finish him off? Once he drops below 30% he no longer uses the two handed mode, and when he's fighting one handed any random attack can result in a parry and one hit kill
>>128804584
>>128805013
Kill them for a lot of vials or bullets
I hate broccoli men
>>128805006
>Don't get shot, he always sidesteps before shooting.
BUT HE'S NEVER NOT SIDESTEPPING
>>128804948
srrc probably
>>128804048
>even in a fight club? you just can't wait 30 seconds?
Yes. No, how the fuck do I even know if you didn't go rub one out and let me hanging for 5 minutes?
Anyway, I don't do fightclubs but when coop host doesn't move I'll just wave twice, then drag the nearest mob to him to murder his sorry ass. I ringed to do coop not play, 'wait for his highness to wipe his ass' game.
Don't waste other people's time, don't expect them to wait indefinitely or to be able to predict it's just half a minute.
>>128805064
Just go for it.
Eustace that was magical
>>128805006
>he always sidesteps before shooting
Not true, if he's not using the hunter's bone he can shoot even without sidestepping
>>128805236
No. He invaded me two times in the middle of arena
k drisful
k
50 vit is not a meme kids
>trophies kill immersion
>have to travel back to the dream to fast travel, doubles loading screen time
>generally being unable to rest at the lantern to reset the enemies in the area for farming
>R2s were made less viable in an attempt to homogenize them as slow, wound up attacks to be used in stealth scenarios, combat becomes more simple
>bosses getting stronger at the end of the fight can be poorly executed, such that they aren't even a threat until they've lost two thirds of their health
>health regeneration for retaliating after taking a single hit means you mash on R1 whenever a weak opponent manages to hit you, and cleanly killing minor opponents is no longer encouraged
>fewer ambushes and beginner's traps, walking around in unfamiliar territory feels less scary than in Souls games
>because firearms cause stagger parrying is extremely low risk
>durability was changed to how it was in DaS1, DaS2 implementation was better because durability became a meaningful stat and not an occasional chore
>blood vials heal extremely quickly, disastrous for PVP and trivializing a lot of bosses who fail to aggro appropriately when you step back to heal
>weapon viability in PVE varies wildly
>quick stepping makes it more advantageous to play locked on which is less fun
>many bosses are large enough that it's hard to see exactly what moves they're telegraphing, leading you to wail on them and use blood vials when you get hit
Why is BloodBorne so well regarded? It's a little bit worse than base game DaS2, although I'll admit I haven't played the DLC
>>128804160
Please
>>128804876
I think it's because the lost version gives you a slot for a radial, triangle and waning gems versus 2 radials and a triangle
>>128805726
lmao
>>128805609
This. I've only fought 3 people with at least 1400 hp. The rest were like 800 - 900 hp.
It's a good thing players met only tracks the players that it wants to or else it would be just way too useful.
>>128805609
>tfw gotta stick with 40 Vit if I wanna do FC
I should have planned my build better. Getting 2 or 3 shot is pretty disappointing.
>>128805809
I have 45 vit and 2 hp runes. As a phantom I have like 1.5k hp.
The hp penalty is ridiculous
>>128805752
Now, I might be an even bigger retard, but, what's the issue with just putting a second radial in that's similar? Is the waning going to be that much better?
>>128805726(You)
>>128806026
I know you're the one who said that
I know drisful
>>128806152
wew don't wear it out lad
>>128805241
If its an invasion or co op thats a different story, but no one asking you to wait 20 minutes while the host finishes masturbating, someone could be going through their menus or some shit. just cause they didn't move for 5 seconds doesn't make you any less of a faggot for killing someone afk in a FC.
>>128806087
What in that post is wrong?
Blood vials should have been unusable in the middle of boss fights.
Discuss.
>>128805726
Because most of that is bullshit, and the rest is a non-issue.
>>128805809
Some people just get bored and want to PvP with unfinished builds. I was doing that the other day in Mensis, invading with 30 vit. I did still win like 90% of my fights. (also managed to get one shotted by a HMLS since I tried to break his hyper armor)
>>128806298
false
/Discuss
Anyone care to help me get the church pick? I'm level 65 and having trouble at the hunter with ludwigs blade leading up Into the research lab. Wanted to get the pick asap because it looked fun. More time to learn it the earlier I can get it and all.
are the blades of mercy still worth upgrading at all or are they entirely outclassed
Blood Flask, 10 max uses, heals pretty much your whole bar, ability to sit at lamps to refresh the area, enemies no longer drop vials, no need to farm for it, bullets are renamed to just Quicksilver and it's treated more like a mana bar that recharges slowly and you get a burst back with visceral attacks, enemies drop chalice materials and more bloodgems instead
Fixed game.
>>128806275
9/13 things you posted are opinions.
>Bell silenced
The fuck sunset?
>>128806610
>please casualize the game
no
>>128806610
Fuck off /v/
Fixed
>>128806275
>It's a little bit worse than base game DaS2
>opinions
:^)
>>128806610
Nope. QS should not regen. Honestly, they should use the DaS1 system for lamps.
>suddenly can't find anybody
>been waiting for six minutes
who's Baltimore and why did you pussy out fuckboi?
REPORTING MAKES ME FEEEEL GOOD
>>128800229
The Tower of Latria was the most atmospheric location in a Souls game. DeS was full of random drop offs and ambushes, making it feel especially scary on your first playthrough if you were new to the Souls series. It also made it feel like the game didn't give a shit about you, which was a unique experience. Tower Knight, Flame Lurker, Maneater, and Allant were all good bosses, although it did have a lot of dumb, gimmicky bosses. More locations were tedious and mediocre than good, but that's also true of Dark Souls. DeS is horribly overrated, and the weapon movesets are samey and boring, but it has its merits. It would have been better than DaS2 if DaS2 didn't have the DLC.
Hello?
somebody out there want to help a BL 110 with pthumeru ihyll descendant? pass is bbg27
>>128807028
The session was suddenly lost. I have no idea why.
>>128807026
use bold hunter's mark and silencing bell to reset after invasion/getting invaded
>>128807026
Same. Someone stuck. Can't even ring
>>128807026
Se here, what's going on
>>128806723
I have no idea what happened there, you just bamphed out of my world, it might be my Internet, sorry.
Servers are fucked or...?
Lots of people, including myself, are getting bell silenced.
>Repeater in FC
I thought we fight to have fun and not to win.
>>128807205
shieeet
>>128807184
Coming in 2 minutes (plus however long it takes to SRRC)
>>128807179
Hello
Invasions are really infrequent now. What gives? I was getting invasions in under a minute 10 minutes ago.
>>128806610
>what works for dark souls oughta work for this game!!!!
Is there any point to surpassing 50 skill if I'm using blade of mercy?
>>128806404
>Because most of that is bullshit, and the rest is a non-issue.
>vague dismissals
Learn to argue, dipshit
>>128807046
I found valley of defilement to be far more atmospheric. Your fifth statement is also opinion driven.
>>128807026
Same, haven't found anyone in like 10 minutes
>>128807026
same, I can't even use the lamp to leave the area
>>128807268
did they bma y/n
>>128807205
I have six session lost today, before psn down.
>>128806610
>infinite bullets
well how about we lower that recovery time on the shooting.
>blood flask
with no backstabs? no
>>128807258
seems that way. two people just got bell silenced on my end.
>>128806610
This honestly I love.
Quicksilver recharging means Arcane/Bullet builds aren't screwed over once they run out of shit and have to dip into their health just to keep doing stuff.
"Blood bullets" should be revised with their regen mana in mind to be like a stronger version of the mana to use for a period of time. Like you buff your mana with blood for say, the next use of gun/spell and it does more damage.
Or, when you've run dry on mana and you don't wanna wait for it to charge, you use the blood mana to get back like 25% of it.
>>128807287
ok.
>>128807328
dont feed it, report it
if it says session lost before you invade then don't press ok
ITS HAPPENING
FIGHT CLUBS BROKEN
EUSTACE IS NOT HAPPY
>>128806610
>make it a Souls game
It's not a Souls game.`
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
Fucking hell Baltimore, I don't even want to get close to you.
FC sill going?
>>128807328
You aren't really arguing either. Someone pointed out that 80% of what you posted was just your opinion, and after stating your opinion, you proceed to state what you think is a fact based on opinion. Your post was just retarded, that's why people aren't taking you seriously.
>>128807550
see
>>128807225
>>128807537
I get constant action
>invasions stop
Not good. Server down?
>rigning for 10 mins
>lost connection to the network
>game back to title, continue
>ring for a minute
>lost connection to the network
>>128807268
FC are serious business round dese parts. If there isn't a rule against it then expect it to be used, especially since a certain someone has been pushing the repeater's usefulness lately.
>>128807328
The argument didn't require anymore than vague dismissals since you didn't actually go into specifics of why any of those would make the game undeserving of its reception.
If you care to argue those points then I am game, but you'll need to start off with more than vague mentions of them.
>>128806610
I just think they should make spells cost way way less
Orphan of Kos is a fight that shows everything that Bloodborne did right; the music and how it changes for the second phase of the fight is top notch, the location is very atmospheric, the boss doesn't have any wonky hitboxes or bullshit moves, his attack pattern fucks you up at first but if you are good at observing him, you can get it down and it all boils down to reaction and timing.
I really liked all the other bosses, but this one might actually be the best.
>>128807684
What the faak.
>>128801001
I recall hearing that system being thrown out a window in the early days of DS3's reveal.
You cut that gattling gun shit out right now Baltimore.
need someone for ihyll layer one, BL 110, pass is bbg27.
>>128807554
>It uses all the souls games mechanics
>But please, let's not use the real good part it perfected over Demon's Souls, let's go backwards with farming just for health!
Fuck off. No one in the history of ever likes bloodvial/bullet farming.
Arcane builds are nerfed into the dirt with the way bullets work. If it worked as a mana bar that recharged slowly, they'd be more fun and viable, videogames are about fun.
Bloodborne's beginning sucks as anew player because of the way it does bullets and vials. New players get caught in a trap of just running dry on vials, so they end up needing to farm vials, using vials while farming them. It goes round in circles and I've seen a few people just outright stop and return the game because of it. These same people enjoyed Dark Souls way more because it let them actually learn how to play the game by giving a lower, set amount of healing that is reliable and they can fail over and over without it being moronically tedious.
There is no reason Bloodborne needed to do health and quicksilver the way it did other than to draw out the game.
>tfw late again for fight club
I need to start waking up earlier.
>>128802360
Whatever the dolls make them.
Eldritch beings are hardly picky eaters.
>>128807881
Not to mention his fight gets really heart racing near the end
>>128807337
>Your fifth statement is also opinion driven.
Area before flamelurker was downright terrible, especially those tanky lava bugs. Weeb skeleton area with manta rays that shot shit at you was annoying and not fun, as it was essentially forced divide and conquer to keep them from rolling all over you. Valley of defilement was a lot of nothing with dumb bursts of difficulty, and the poison was only a fuck you. Area before the Searcher was better than the first part of that archstone but only a little bit. The only truly great PVE segments were Boletaria and Latria
>>128808070
I don't wanna. Unless I find another way to be a gigantic faggot to you guys.
>>128808226
Read the thread. Servers seems fucked.
It's fucked for me, using Bold Hunter's Mark and silencing blank isn't doing anything. Guess it's time for some pve
>>128808167
>needing to farm for vials or bullets
Jesus christ look at this assblasted autist right here. If you just spent your time gitting gud instead of complaining this wouldn't be a problem.
Please help, I just want to be a tentacle girl
>>128808226
No you are not late. PSN seems to be fucking around. Also, lots of gatling using fucks too.
Heh, while I was typing this comment I lost connection and moved to title screen for the 3rd time in 10 mins.
Is the FC already over?
>FC is dead
HAPPENING
thanks for new update Sony
>paid online subscription service that hides entire game features behind a paywall is too inconsistent and unstable for fightclubs
Never had this problem on pc, desu
Wait why is the gatling bad
>>128807809
What's the deal with the repeater meme, again?
>>128808332
See, that's all your opinion. I never found any of those areas as annoying as you did, and by the looks of it, didn't have nearly as much trouble with them either.
It's back. Just fought Clint with no issues.
>>128807809
>you didn't actually go into specifics of why any of those would make the game undeserving of its reception
Why is it deserving of its reception? The only good boss from the base game was Gehrman. It's the only Souls type game I can think of where the environment was more important to the experience than the boss fights.
>>128808662
Phantom range. The best way to deal against gatling is shooting. But if you use two handed weapon...
Gg buscemi.
>>128808670
Repater is really good, especially with BMA on low BLT builds.
>>128808706
opinions
>>128808683
Yup, I've had 2 fights so far with no issues.
>>128808467HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
>>128808683
And 2 shot me ;_;
>>128808410
>heh GIT GUD xdXD
There is a real and quantifiable reason why Bloodborne even in it's height was a bore to watch on stream, and has fallen off a cliff.
It's ultimately a tedious game to play, and the multiplayer doesn't help it either.
I played over 1k hours of Demon's, Dark and even Dark 2 before playing Bloodborne, and the beginning of Bloodborne was a rough period. If I wasn't someone who was familiar with the games and knew what was coming and to expect, I would've just outright said "fuck this unfun shit" and left.
Again, absolutely ZERO reason for the vials and bullets to have been done the way they were apart from making an aspect of the game tedious and inflating play time.
Again. 10 max uses, recovers at lamps, Quicksilver is a mana bar that charges slowly, blood bullets buff 25% of the bar or refill 25% of the bar. Shooting a gun has a slight cooldown after it now to balance this out.
Cannon's, Arcane and bullet reliant builds are no longer unfun shit that requires annoying farming or killing self to refresh and ultimately end up farming more.
>>128808832
Name a great boss fight from the base game.
>>128808706
>The only good boss from the base game was Gehrman
You know this is completely and entirely your opinion right? Shit like Amelia's heal, and Ebrietas' hitboxes are bad, but that's not nearly enough to say
>lol all bosses are shit
If a boss being easy meant they are bad then DeS would have the worst bosses in the series.
>summon guy for BSB
>he just walks at it and dies
but why?
Is the Clint Eastwood build fun outside of PvP?
I just want to go around Cawodoodying stuff.
>>128808932
no one cares, now stop stirring shit and take your autistic ass back to dsg
>>128808932
2wall4me
>>128808992
Vicar.
Oh fuck, sorry jp. I think I forgot to blood bullet.
>>128809102
Enjoy running out of bullets and getting bored of this build in 30 minutes.
I've tried the gunslinger thing. It's no good.
>>128809047
>Amelia's heal
>gives you the item to counter it on her doorstep
this is like the retards who don't realize to use the PUNGENT BLOOD COCKTAIL that lures BLOODTHIRSTY BEASTS on the BLOOD-STARVED BEAST and bitch about how he's too hard and his poison hurts (of which they give you a ton of antidotes leading up to him).
>>128805726
This is all true and you didn't even mention vial/bullet farming or chalice grinding, but most people here won't care.
>>128808992
Gascoigne
>>128808932
There are enemies that will drop guaranteed quicksilver bullets, and enemies that will drop two to four blood vials guaranteed in Yharnam. One run through Yharnam will not only give you resources, but the blood echoes to buy more of those resources. You're just bad, please leave.
>>128808167
I never said it was a perfect game, it isn't I just said it wasn't a Souls game. Which it isn't. The whole idea is they WANT you to heal. No, the farming isn't perfect, but enemies drop vials along the way regardless. You can rack up echoes and just buy them. You don't actually need to farm, it's merely an option.
The game was supposed to be different and should they get the chance to make a sequel, they can start fixing stuff that would streamline the experience. Just making it more like a Souls game isn't the answer, because this is supposed to be different. It was an experiment, basically, for what it is it came much better than it had any right to be.
I for one would prefer a different method altogether of having a syringe you can refill from certain enemies. Kill an enemy, take their blood, will you risk getting killed harvesting blood while there are other enemies around or try and finish them off smartly? Drastically reduces any farming unless you really, really are desperate.
>>128809301
Oh yeah, I forgot about numbing mist because it's literally never used anywhere except for that fight. My bad.
>>128808932
>I played over 1k hours of Demon's
>lying on the internet
>Again, absolutely ZERO reason for the vials and bullets to have been done the way they were apart from making an aspect of the game tedious and inflating play time.
>Other than preventing you from cheesing everything with infinite parries and healing
>Moon grass was okay but Vials aren't
>farming
>farming more
>bath messengers sell infinite amounts of vials and bullets for literally change echoes
If you can't afford a haul of vials after trudging around and killing a boss you should probably stop leveling so much
Nice fashion Cosmo.
>>128809331
Oh boy, let's go back to the hub to instead of using my souls to level up, buy more heals! Load screens are F U N.
Stop being a fucking apoligist. It's less bad now, but on release with the horrible loading screens and everyone being new to the combat and the way the game worked, it was tedious unfun shit for at least the first few hours. But we all knew to push forward and get to the fun.
Alot of people played it and saw an annoying R1 spam farm simulator, not the best start to the game. Infact, I personally think Bloodborne has the weakest start out of the whole series, even Dark Souls 2.
>>128809047
If a boss is easily defeated, it probably is bad, unless it is particularly interesting. I would consider the Covetant Demon from DaS2 okay because he has some unique properties and interesting ideas put into him, like his grab that unequips everything on you and the fact that his roll attack can get him poisoned because of all the poison vases on the wall. He's hardly a great boss, though, because he's pretty easy to kill, so he doesn't force you to master his area and become intimate with his attack patterns.
>>128809331
>Gascoigne
He only became a threat at one third health. He represents a major problem with the boss design in the game. Still much better than the Vicar.
>>128809169
I laughed out loud.
>>128809573
thank
>>128809350
>Just making it more like a Souls game isn't the answer
It's too bad that more than half of the people that have something bad to say about BB are convinced that this isn't the case.
>>128793743
>responding to Lucifer
>ever
>>128809552
>I played over 1k hours of Demon's
>lying
That doesn't sound that outlandish. I have over 2k in Dark Souls.
>session lost
>session lost
>session lost
Okay
>2 parries in a row with the Piercing Rifle
Guys, just because the description says its unfit for counter attacks donsn't make it true.
>>128809679
>I laughed out loud.
That's not a refutation.
>>128809552
>Infinite parries
I said it regenerates slowly you fucktard. Think Crescent weapon recharge rate for mana in Demon's.
You'd run dry on gun spam just as you do now, but it just seems in a minute you'll be able to shoot a few more bullets.
>>128809781
No one with that much played in Demon's Souls would be complaining about vials and bullets
>>128809703
>making up psuedo-statistics.
not even him but try harder faggot.
>>128808832
>Repater is really good, especially with BMA on low BLT builds.
Does it require very rare gems in order to do that?
I have basically no BLT at all, I was planning to upgrade the Cannon which I know is kinda shit, but it's prettyfunto blow shit up with it.
>Fight club is still foobar
Fuck, it started out nicely too.
>Adversary Cosmo returned to their own world
Not again
Nice setup BTW. Parasite fisticuffs?
>>128809573
It's Narcissa now. Please be mindful of others' feelings!
Can you guys defeat this japanese man? twitch televsion Nodkeras
>>128809816
Is the Kos Parasite viable at all? I love its ridiculously expansive moveset and just the idea of playing as a fucking alien
DON'T PRESS OK IF YOU GET THE SESSION LOST SCREEN, JUST KEEP STANDING THERE. If someone comes into your world you will have to press ok but if you invade an other world you can press it in their world and the game continues.
>>128810110
That's my good friend Nod! He's korean actually and pretty good at the game. Tell him I said hello.
>>128809350
>Just making it more like a Souls game isn't the answer, because this is supposed to be different.
>let's make the mechanics of our game objectively worse than what we've done in the past because we feel like it
I guess that's why leveling up at bonfires disappeared after DaS1.
>m-m-muh monotone soulless waifu
She's worthless.
>>128810110
He's Korean.
>>128809642
>It's less bad now, but on release
Moving the goalposts, good. See, I know you're bad because you think that watching one loading screen and not leveling up (when that should always be your last priority when spending souls) is tedious. Again, fuck off.
>>128810015
Nah, just +9 or 10 it then drop the story gem in it. All you need is 8 BLT and a BMA. With just that, you can land like 1300+ damage on the defiled Watchdog, not to mention what it does in PvP.
>>128809935
Or you could learn to dodge, pick your engagements, lure enemies into areas more favorable to you, and generally play more passively until you're either good enough to play more aggressively or upgraded your weapons enough to just smear anything in your way against the ground in two swings.
>>128810110
with 300ping?
>>128809975
Yes they would be, because here I am.
After 1k hours in Demon's (this was before Dark) Bloodborne pissed me off going backwards to it's method of farming for bullshit. I was well and truly over that, for good reason.
Bloodborne on release, with it's load screens and farming heavy focus, after coming from the 2 souls games previous was UN FUN SHIT.
Yet here I am in /bbg/. I love the game, but I fucking DETEST the start of it, less so now because I know what's going on and I can speedrun the start without dying, but I will forever have bad memories of the start of this game.
>>128809918
Maybe the Vicar is a great fight, but I killed her on my first try with little difficulty. Her attacks were mostly straightforward and she wasn't aggressive enough to stop you from healing when you took damage. It was satisfying to quickstep through her pound, but that was about it.
OC
I say Crowsteel and Maria should hook up.
>Finally R34 of eldritch slug MILF
What a time to be alive.
Actually hold on let me post something productive.
Am I the only one who's bothered that all the Yharnamites are fucking xenophobic Ooop North hicks? What the fuck are they doing in a gothic city anyways. And why do they have farming tools.
Remind me why the market thinks it's acceptable to charge for an online service this bad?
Why the fuck can't I find anyone I've been enjoying searching for the past 30 minutes
Can I turn rakuyo into bolt on an arcane build without it being total shit?
>>128810270
>like 1300+ damage on the defiled Watchdog
I've seen that video, that shit's crazy.
Does it do similar damage against other things though? Now that I think about it, Defiled Watchdog is the example I usually see about how good BMA and Repeater are.
What the actual fuck is wrong with the servers. I know From has never, or ever will, make good net codes for their games, but jesus Christ is this disgusting. Waiting 6 minutes for an invasion theb it booting me to the title screen.
>>128810146
It's not the toppest of top tier, but it's good, and fun as hell
>>128810320
nigga vials and bullets are fucking everywhere your first run through Central Yharnam.
>135BL
>116BL
>can't get invasions
SONY, your "performance" update was shit
>>128810376
I say Crowsteel should be locked in the stocks getting butt fucked all day,
What the fuck is going on in this thread right now?
>>128810203
I didn't mention Doll but okay bud
Fast travel at Lanterns would be nice and should be a thing, otherwise who fucking cares?
>>128810435
lol its fromsoft being bad at online stuff rather then psn.
>>128810550
Still buttmad I see.
>>128809679
>I would consider the Covetant Demon from DaS2 okay
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Covetous Demon Okay Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Fatty Like Nigga Swing Your Weapon Haha
>>128809679
stop, theres nothing you can say to convince us and nothing we can say to convince you
>>128810571
Anons are saying parts of the game are bad because they're not good enough to overcome them without farming.
>>128810345
As someone who has killed Deerslut more times than I can count, there's something you should realize about her:
Half the fight is being threatened by her. That's it. You see her grotesque transformation, and her big, scary screams, and it's SUPPOSED to affect how you play/shake you up a little bit, just like with the Cleric Beast. Neither boss is hard, by any means since they do diddly dick for damage and are easily dodged and punished, but the first few attempts are, once again, SUPPOSED to be made harder by the fact that you are unnerved by them.
Ludwig is the next step of this where he's supposed to be unnerving and then also hard. Then he hits phase 2 and becomes awe-inspiring.
Please post webms of cooperation, I like seeing Hunters working together
>>128810320
I don't like farming for them either, but when you get to the end game, it's a complete non-issue. You buy hundreds of vials and bullets at a time and not put a dent in your blechoes.
>>128810345
You were most likely using a guide or over-leveled then. She wasn't even the only good boss in the vanilla game.
>>128810451
It usually only gets that ridiculous on bosses with weak heads. But the damage is still ridiculously good for just 8 blt. I mainly use it for those bosses and dogs.
>>128810320
how does it feel to know you are platinum shit at this game?
>>128810696
No I'm just gay for crowsteel and I think hes a twink underneath those feathers.
>>128810571
Prepare to Petition race shitposting
>>128810662
Pretty sure he didn't have Doll in mind since she obviously has a soul.
>>128810042
yeah, the session lost has been happening a lot
>>128810431
Post it
>>128810345
>i beat her on my first try with little difficulty
>basing your ENTIRE argument off of one playthrough, where you fought a boss one time
Way to completely deflate your entire argument.
>>128810904
It's PSN fucking up for god knows what reason, happening to me on other games as well
>>128810778
That was beautiful.
>>128810778
>>128810837
Only fabulous tops wear feather. You should know that.
anons think I can get to beast claws at level 21?
>>128810932
I don't make a habit of posting other people's art but you can find it onTumblr
I'm trying to draw some of it myself but university has really diminished my drawing skills.
>>128808431
What a beautiful image.
>>128811029
>Only fabulous tops wear feathers
Well this was the most incorrect thing I've seen all day.
>>128810778
someone post SLAM JAM Ebri
>do some minor Koreaning for decent blunt gems
>psn shits the bed
God fucking dammit.
>>128809552
>infinite healing and parrying
>respawning with a capped number of health items is "infinite" and "cheese"
>hurr hurr use your boss souls on vials
Motherfucker the time when you need to farm vials is when a boss has repeatedly torn your asshole apart and you have no echoes or vials left to fight it with.
The biggest problem with these things being shit you need to collect is that it fucks with newbies who die a lot even harder than these games normally do. As the other guy said:
>run out of vials
>go to farm vials
>use vials while farming/die because new
>still no vials
>return shit game
>>128811264
>minor Koreaning
>minor
No such thing. Your dishonor to others' seoul-crushing farming sessions is what brought this upon us you scheming fuck.
>half an hour with no despite ringing my dingaling bell
Welp, guess I'll go play Dragon's Dogma then.
>>128810778
>posted this on /v/
>two guys called me a shitter for needing to summon and running out of vials when you can see 'beckoner' above the other guy
o /v/
>>128811028
Oh thats good.
Is no one else using the Church Pick?
Fighting Clint repeatedly until he gets used to my moves was nice but gets boring
>>128811393
If you're that normiecore when playing a game you should return it, it improves the experience for everyone else.
>>128811393
>farm vials
MLG_PRO tip Ñ„op ÑŽ.
>go to Lecture Building
>kill freakish slugs for seconds
>repeat
>buy 200 vials
>>128811575
>Saw Spear
10/10 taste
After sitting here farming Isz Watchers for adept's, I've just come to the conclusion:
Fuck this game. Why am I even doing this. Why were the droprates for all this shit made so fucking bad. And for that matter, why the fuck aren't abyssals guaranteed drops on layer 3 bosses?
Literally "aww, that's a shame, feel free to play the dungeon over again for an infinite number of tries until you get something!"
I want to punch the dick of the japanese man who did this.
>>128811735
He was talking about how he was too stubborn to git gud in the very beginning of the game.
>>128811596
th-thanks
What makes the beast claws so terrible?
>>128811575
Very conveniently missing from that webm is a bit at the very end where Amygdala decides he's had enough of our shit, turns around and almost OHKOs me with a footstomp. I wanted to include it for comedic value but 26 seconds for a decent quality webm is cutting it close as it is.
>>128811393
>game doesn't hold your hand and gives you an infinite source of healing when you fuck up and repeatedly get your shit pushed in
>it's a shit game
You're the cancer the killed Souls. I bet you summoned phantoms after being invaded.
I just tried ringing in mensis and it seems like this issue is widespread, not just our chalice.
Must be the matchmaking server
>>128811870
People who are bad with them think they do little damage and that you need to get too close with them. They are wrong, anon. They are wrong.
>Piercing Rifle parry AGAIN
Sorry Yuppie.
>>128811753
>And for that matter, why the fuck aren't abyssals guaranteed drops on layer 3 bosses?
This would be nice at least. You'd still have to farm because of shitty curses, but at least you'd be getting something each run.
It also burns my ass that 30% adepts aren't a common drop from anything. Maybe more bosses than Watchers and Undead Giants would get killed if any other boss dropped anything that matters.
>>128811393
punishing newbies is a good thing though.
>>128811753
At least you can savescum for Abyssals easily.
>>128811753
All they had to do was make the layer bosses drop ONLY rating 18 and 19 gems. That would go a long way to making shit a bunch better. Also every gem type should have an even chance. Tempering should have the same rate as Striking, Fools, Bolt, Fire etc etc. No reason not to.
>>128811935
We should make the fc during the week. Servers are probably overburdened.
Could I use a church pick with a 50/15 str/skill build if I use heavy abyssals or is my skill too low?
>>128811870
Very low individual hit damage, no reach and a mediocre moveset.
It's not particularly faster than the likes of a saif or rakuyo, but does a fraction of the damage at a fraction of the reach
>>128811935
I turned off my console for a few minutes to argue with shitters and came back, getting invasions instantly now.
>>128812075
>non skill weapons are worse than skill weapons
wow stop the presses
>Yet another title menu prompt
Welp, this was fun. Good call to have a mini-FC with three people earlier I guess.
>>128812040
This kind of thing hasn't happened before. It's not just traffic, something on PSN's end has broke and there probably won't be a fix until tomorrow.
The matchmaking servers are sony's, so this is totally on them. At least glyphs are still working.
>>128811753
Honestly, for Undead Giant being such a shitty fucking boss, he should be dropping the top teir 32.6% adepts. People would actually fight that fucking boss.
>>128811935
Yeah. Invader get lost connection and host get no invasios. All day for me
>>128811627
>>128811735
>>128811925
>>128812009
I'd heard this community consisted of elitist vermin but I didn't think it was this bad.
You are the cancer.
IF YOU CAN"T INVADE TRY TURNING THE CONSOLE OFF
IF THAT DOESN'T WORK THAN FUCK ME I GUESS
So which weapons out of the DLC ended up being actually good
>>128811870
>>128812075
+no DASH R1. Whats the fuck From?
>>128812025
I haven't gotten to FRC Dungeons yet. When should I start backing up my save for Abyssals?
>>128812431
All of them except for the Beast Cutter
>>128812431
BEAST CUTTAH
>>128812431
most of them
>>128812035
It would be nicer if particular bosses dropped particular kinds of gems. Like how if you want flat arc gems you go fight a Brainsucker, if you want adepts with a secondary you fight undead giants, if you want nourishing you fight Amy, and if you want fucking anything else you farm Watchers for eternity.
dam Kobra u edgy as fuk
>>128812431
All of them except for one, subjectively.
>>128812509
>When should I start backing up my save for Abyssals?
When you reach the boss fog of a CRF dungeon's final boss.
>>128812386
>>128812553
>>128812683
what are the bad ones
>>128812431
>forgot to save a clip of a funny moment in a match.
This FC just keeps getting worse.
>>128812061
Go for 50 skill for pick due to the B scaling
You can cheat with scaling/adept gems but it gets outclassed by those who go full Korean with thrust gems
>>128812720
oh so the final boss of a CRF dungeon is guaranteed abyssal? Going to be less of a chore then if I that final boss is easy.
>>128812886
>guaranteed
laughing-koreans.gif
wat
>>128812394
Yeah, didn't help me, m8
First thing that happened when I loaded back in is that my bell and hunters mark greyed out and stayed like that for about 5 minutes until whatever was trying to connect failed again.
>>128812748
None are bad, but people think that the Boom Hammer and Beast Cutter aren't very good for the most part. They just require better gems and more skill to be used well.
>>128812764
This list is not entirely accurate, ignore it.
>>128812764
The fuck? Saws outclassed all weapons in "great tier" in terms of speed and damage.
>good tier
>reiter
Reiter is S tier
>>128812886
No, not guaranteed. That's why you savescum.
I could be sitting on a dildo right now. Why did the servers have to shit the bed?
>>128812982
Oh yeah, did anyone ever figure out what causes this?
>>128813006
whats not accurate
>>128813013
>opinions
>>128813013
So those weapons in "great tier" are actually meh?
>>128813191
You forgot Ludwigs, for one
>>128813191
>opinions
>650AR saws
>L1 phantom range
>>128813064
Is there some reason you can't sit on a dildo AND FC?
>>128812596
Would've been cool to have more bosses to do this
New Chalice Bosses!
Shadows of Yarnham
>Sharp Abyssals
Labyrinth Madman (Corpse)
>Rating 19 Fast/Slow Poison
Labyrinth Madman (Warpicks)
>Fools/Poorman
Winter Lanterns
>Rating 19 Droplet gems, fighting 3 winter lanterns, unique boss room, hard as shit
Forgotten Madmen (hintertomb boss reappearing)
>Arcane/Fire/Bolt radials
Shit like that. Why not.
>>128813276
ludwigs is in there
>>128812683
That isn't me. I haven't played in months.
>never expect anyone to R1 spam
>they do
>hits me four times even while quickstepping
Fucking saifs goddamn
>>128813391
ah Im blind, disregard
Reiter still too low though
>>128813345
Too distracting. I'm not like one of those mmorpg heal sluts that get off while playing.
>>128813351
Man, look at that, a place to get good elemental radials AND a reason to actually do Hintertombs. Your five minutes of thought was better than the dev time of the game.
Can someone explain why abyssals are so wanted?
>>128813467
Well I'm a newfag. My bad
>>128813565
>winter lanterns as bosses
no
>>128813568
They're the best gems of their kind and usually the best-in-slot gems
I wouöd be very happy if the Ayys could do something else than the dash attack. Because that shit hits me even if I'm standing 6 meters to the sides of those tentacles.
>>128813568
They're only the top ranked gems in the game.
>>128813663
A fitting obstacle for getting rank 19 droplets I would think. And they'd get easier with time, you'd just have to get really good with the parry method.
>>128813351
Honestly, any enemy that appears in chalices should be able to be a boss. I don't care if you gank me with 3 of them just to make it happen, let me get interesting gems from them this way.
I HATE that literally every 3rd layer boss is always the same mix of like 3 possible options.
>>128797440
damn, rapier moveset is nice. Might make a rapier build and completely ignore its shitty gun feature.
when I try doing webm related, though, he always disappears and reappears behind me.
Alright, I'll admit I'm a fucking newfag who needs a little bit of a hand-hold.
Fextralife wiki says I can find a Bath Messenger on Pthumeru Labyrinth 8i29rqz3 to get Uncanny and Lost versions of some DLC weapons. That's the one you get from the Blood-Starved Beast, right?
What do I need to do to search by glyph and not get the error message that I don't meet the requirements. I opened the chalice once, went in, and that's what some cursory google searches told me to do. Do I need to beat the entire thing once first?
>>128813824
switching to the saw spear now
>>128813351
>winter lanterns
Just have an actual fight against the Brain of Mensis.
>>128812879
should I use Saif, Rakuyo or Burial blade as sub weapon for my 25/50 skill build?
>>128813981
You need to have made a root chalice of that type. I think it's depth 1 pthumeru root so that should be pretty easy.
>>128814069
saif+BB benefit from str but 50skl rakuyo is strong anyway
>first lad I run into wipes out 1/3 of my health in one swing
Should've seen it coming. Good match though, man.
>>128812879
That's kinda what I figured
I'll probably just keep going with my str build and leave the pick for my skill build
>>128813981
You need to first create and maybe even complete that type of chalice, i'm not sure about that second part.
Do you ever actually use the saif's long mode
>>128814069
Sub weapon = meta weapon. So use Saif. And BoM against Dash Wheel
>>128814206
Don't need to finish it, just make it.
>>128814259
Yes, the phantom range is ridiculous.
>>128810809
>You were most likely using a guide or over-leveled then
I was using Ludwig's Holy Blade because I was trying to get through the game fast. You recommended it to me
>>128814259
Oh yeah. The R2 is actually really nice, it makes almost a complete circle of hitbox around you and is just slow enough to dodgecatch nicely.
>>128813981
you need the root version of that chalice
>>128814172
>>128814552
Thanks m8s
Well that's all the fc I had time for.
I'm happy this paid subscription server required to access the full breadth of features of the game I payed full price for is so stable and reliable. I ended up just sitting around for most of the fc waiting for psn to sort its shit out, after a decent 6 or so fights.
Maybe next week will be better
>>128814396
oh so the meta is still dominated by phantom range
nice to see from games never change
>>128814536
The funny this is that the hitbox is actually not that wide around you, it misses everything behind you. It'll just watch people in pvp that dodge behind you 100% of the time because netcode.
>>128814789
>mfw I never paid for PS+
14 day trial master race for year
GG Alexis. Are you Killian?
>>128814974
yeah
that visceral was brutal pham
>buffing your weapons in FC
>>128814814
Bloodborne's meta feels like Dark Souls before the BKGA was nerfed, except that extends to most weapons because bloodgems make it so you can deal over seven hundred damage with one R1 on multiple weapons. If you want to compete, you literally need to go korea mode and farm.
>>128810320
>thinking farming for VIALS and BULLETS is hard and tedious
>claims to have played demon's souls
yeah, nah. farming for usables in both demon's souls and bloodborne is far too easy. eventually you get to ailing loran chalice and after killing 10 enemies near the lamp you can buy 80+ healing items.
>>128815082
Was it not-Kobra? The guy with the hood and Rakuyo
>>128815196
this
getting 20 blood vials should ideally take around an hour or so
>>128807684
those are some interesting skyboxes flashing towards the end.
DeathStalkerRai is not impressed /bbg/
You need to stop losing to this shitter
>>128815082
I bet he is Rakuyo shitter. They like 700AR spin2win ez frags
>>128815259
I didn't notice the headwear but they had a Rakuyo
So what'd the stance on BMAing
>>128815040
>nice visceral
And here I sit, waiting that someone says 'Hey you're not bad with the Cane!'
>>128815424
did he only r1?
>>128792456
What's a good level to try and get help at Ludwig at? I am trying to make an arcane build and want his sword early level 48 at the moment and it takes a good 15 20 minutes to get a summon.
Please help me with Orphan, all his attacks do 90% of my health
Pass is bb, bl 31
>>128815040
Shit, I parried you with the Piercing Rifle earlier.
I told you I'd do better this week.
>Doing well in FC with Kirk, somehow better than I usually do when using Saif/Saws/Cane
>Even manage to get my very first win against dris
>Servers go to shit, can't connect to anybody
>Now I'm stuck at work
It was fun while it lasted. ggs, lads
>>128815393
Link his profile vileblood profile post DLC
Spin2win? Saif?
>>128815491
For the most part, yes
>>128815505
His sword isn't fantastic on an arcane build famygdala. Probably 60 - 150 for Ludwig.
You know what's great about Bloodletter? Not only is it effective, it's also a fun design. The transform attack is shoving it through your own chest and into another dude even. So wonderful you don't even mind the one-shot L2.
>>128815660
It might not be the best but I want a back up from kos parasite plus it looks pretty cool thanks anon.
>>128815578
Sure senpai.
>>128815393
Rakuyo r1 spam
>>128815649
100% this guy >>128815393
ADD A RELOAD SPEED TO ALL GUNS. PARRYING TRIVIALISES HALF OF THE BOSSES.
>>128815393
What's his character name?
>been so long since I last got an invasion the ones I'm getting now I do horribly.
Fuck, now my head isn't in the game anymore.
>>128815393
lol he's a healing spin to win shitter that attacks people afk, he gets no respect.
>>128815393
tbf, /bbg/ fightclubs have been easier than Mergo's Loft every time I've participated.
Can you get Uncanny parasite without killing reeeeee?
>>128815584
been doing sorta undope this fc, not even filming
>>128815841
One of the things I enjoy the most about Bloodborne is that, as you get better at the game, you're allowed to destroy enemies and bosses with greater and greater ease. Viscerals are one part of that.
>>128815718
What I hate about it is the fact that it's the damage and reach of a strength weapon with the stamina cost of a saw, the speed of a tonitrus and a dash attack on par with the tricked wheel.
There are no downsides. On paper it's the statistically strongest weapon in the game.
Keep fighting clint, you'll kill me sooner or later.
>>128815893
>kills me
>does hush gesture
>kills me again
>walks away for a few seconds until he thinks I've been teleported back, runs back
What do I call this behavior?
>>128816032
I have no idea whats wrong with me. I don't usually suck this bad.
>>128815913
No. You need the base version of a DLC weapon in order to get its Uncanny or Lost variants in chalices.
GG, Lamp
>>128815893
It's him? >>128804948
>>128816183
gg , dat fucking cutter range
>>128816021
If the Rakuyo couldn't swing as fast as a knife for 600 damage a hit I would agree, it's close though.
>>128816162
Well fuck me
Oh yeah this happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbSnXDQFSE8
>>128816021
The only downside is that it demands a pretty specific build that doesn't really extend to other weapons, but even then, who cares? Why would you need a different trick weapon when you have Bloodletter?
I really need to play my Brador more often.
>>128815393
I need to kill this fuck face
>spin2win
He brings dishonour to the Rakuyo no Inu wo Taberu
>>128816315
Don't give up, anon! What specifically is giving you difficulties?
BIG
>mfw the untricked HMLS
>mfw dat claymore moveset
>mfw those roll punishes
>mfw that uncharged R2 poke
holy fuck lads, you can just be a STR build and use the moonlight sword untricked.
>>128810052
kek
>>128813006
Boom hammer feels slow and lacks versatility. It makes an ok 1h with a weapon, but you have better choices like the saw cleaver or spear. The only thing going for it is its charged fire attack, but the speed...
Likes its slower than Ludwig's sword ffs
GG teleporting mist guy
I hope we rematch. That was one hell of a fight. If it weren't for those lucky hits, you would've wrecked me.
Is it me or does the Rakuyo's follow up attacks after dodging have better lunge than any other weapon?
>>128816281
See the thing with the rakuyo is that it relies on the netcode shitting itself to function. 9/10 you lose to a rakuyo, you can check and see the person you were fighting was somewhere on the other side of the planet.
The weapon relies entirely on the second R1 in its string comboing after the first inescapably because of netcode, or the 3rd catching a dodge unavoidably. If the connection is good enough that neither of these things happen regularly, it's just a fast weapon with decent reach and an abysmal dodge attack.
That's the thing with the rakuyo, it doesn't have a particularly good moveset and the dodge attack is abysmal. Its success is dependent completely on the ability to mash R1 and let netcode work things out for you. When the connection is good enough and that doesn't happen, it falls apart as a weapon because shitty dash attack means no pressure. The spin2win is a joke.
>>128816501
I only have 16 vit and whenever I enter the the arena I get nervous and fuck up my dodges
It's like when I first fought Shaggy in MH4U
>>128816407
>Rakuyo no Inu wo Taberu
>Rakuyo's Living on a Flood
What the fuck?
>>128816730
>it doesn't have a particularly good moveset
I disagree
>>128816654
you have to think of boom hammer is a big slow 2handed weapon stuck in one hand. Use a cleaver to accompany it.
>>128816808
thats the joke
>>128816808
pantsu o taberu onii-chan
>roll catching people with the tricked Cutter r1
Fuck this thing has some range
Holy fuck that was close Marion
>>128816889
Yeah, it's a shame it does the damage of a small, fast 1handed weapon despite being being and slow, eh?
>>128816570
Yeah, Untricked HLMS is pretty great, all around a really cool weapon, makes Ludwig's even more of a little bitch sword.
>>128816921
you will not eat my panties, imouto
Anyone for Paarl? I suck too hard to kill him solo and the summons I get insist on running directly into his charged AoE.
>haven't killed Amelia yet
>go to old Yharnam to farm for blood shards
>get enough souls to buy 28 vials
Goddamn it is just too damn hard to get vials in this game jesus.
>>128816570
why not both?oh right autist 98 meta
>>128816215
pretty sure. He invaded in Men's is alot and I have fought him numerous times making his bitch ass run too the fog gate
Come on, kill DeathStalkerRai and post webms
>>128816998
>mfw I was having trouble with it in pvp just coming off of a SKL build now I am starting to get the hang of it.
this feeling is amazing.
>>128817165
Literally who?
If the Chikage had a better horizontal sweep for its first r1, it'd be so much better. Its ridiculous how many players just kind of walk past the first swipe and end up behind me.
>>128817112
>tfw I run on 110 on BB and will continue to.
haters gonna hate.
>>128817165
Is that his character's name too? If not I don't know which one he is.
>>128817219
Funny, I've been making the opposite transition since the DLC and it has also been pretty amazing.
I wonder how much pussy has Gehrman eaten in his youth
>>128817165
I've killed him twice already in the fight club.
>>128817084
Corpse banging on the gate in front of Ludwig's arena always drops 5 vials.
>>128817334
Unlock and lead your swing in the direction they're walking.
>>128804059
Different guy, I'm not at that point yet, but I have a really really stupid question about Bloody Crow as well. From what I heard he's basically supposed to be a build with maxed out stats, but he still gets harder in NG+, right? Or since his stats are already maxed, can they not go higher?
need help at amygdala ng+ level 94, meet at bossgate
password: goyim
can't beat it :c
>>128817368
>YFW you run into my 116
haters gonna obliterate ya, mate
>>128817381
I think his character name is 'Mareza'. It's some Rakuyo dude that kills me in 2 - 3 hits and has a pure black skin.
Not being able to manual aim while locked on with big weapons was one of the biggest mechanical steps back BB has taken
Has anyone legitimately gotten to max level?
Do soul drops get higher until ng+7 or do they cap before that?
>>128817532
I'm not in the FC because it's pretty fucky right now, allegedly.
Where should I go from here? Thinking of rounding out Skill to 50 or pumping Arcane for shenanigans.
I'm using Ludwig's Holy Blade+9 and Kirkhammer+9 right now. I have no BL limit, just having fun in Chalice Dungeons with my first character.
Suggestions?
>>128817550
And he buffs his Rakuyo. Who is this guy anyways, some twitch faggot or what?
>>128815774
You there? I'm ringing by the fog gate
>>128817165
And don't forget to send him "Ez win".
>>128817701
I'm a retard.
>>128817701
What are your stats?
>>128817703
He's just a guy that invades Mensis constantly collecting dregs and then pumping them into Analise.
I hope it wasn't one of you guys coming into the FC and spamming vials.
>>128817618
They cap at NG+6.
Fastest echo farm I know of is to backstab and visceral cursed Pthumeru Ihyll bone ash hunter right outside a lantern with 2x Heir 1x Moon. You can get ~220k echoes in like 40s IIRC, including load times. I have a 350 character and did the math, it would take me like 12 hours of farming that to get to 544.
There's also that guy who streams sometimes who's over NG+1k, he's 544. Maybe he duped to get there, but after NG+1k you'd be 544 regardless.
>>128817915
Don't do anything more.
>>128817958
Sounds like a cool guy. Gotta respect any cuckblood that's dedicated themselves so completely to preppin' the bull for our lady Annalise.
>>128817958
So why is everyone making a fuss out of this guy?
>>128817915
Raise arc for HMLS and Wheel. And tools I guess.
>>128817703
He's Bloodborne's Ippiki.
>>128818014
Why not? I'm shit at PvP in this game and these Chalice Dungeons are starting to really hurt me.
Just started Ailing Loran and the bosses are annoying damage sponges.
>>128817990
>NG+1k
U wot m8
How
>>128817990
>over NG+1k
>over newgame one buttfucking thousand
I don't believe you.
>>128818080
Not many people are, anon. He's just an edgelord in the fightclub.
>>128817703
You know all that *unsheathes katana* shit people like to do?
This man is the embodiment of that.
>>128818014
>no bl limit
>>128817701
>>128818156
Saw+Fire Paper+Oil. 2 ez Loran.
>>128817368
It's funny because they complain about le reddit meta but reddit has been at 145 for... ever.
>>128818080
He was absolutely buttmad when Kobra sent him "Ez win"
>>128818156
>annoying damage sponges
What's your weapon + bloodgem setup? My character is shit and beat every boss on there in about two or three minutes each.
>>128817701
Skill to 50 is correct if you're using LHB a lot. Vit-gouge or get 40 endurance after that if you're not interested in guns/tools.
Also get the Blood Rocks and +10 your weapons.
I wish only certain moves from the Chikage drained health, Theres all these other moves I want to use but not while my health is already gimped.
>>128818245
What's a reliable dungeon I can farm for chunks? Insight farming is slow for me and I'm not sure what to do for chunks.
And is that Spear or Cleaver?
>>128818080
He probably has some korean gems and 3 - 2 HKOs anyone. Apparently he's healing aswell, but he hasn't healed against me.
>>128818357
Insight you should really save for rocks. I think chunks start appearing from depth 4 bosses and below.
How many people are in the FC?
>>128818156
There's nothing you could do at this point which would meaningfully increase your damage, but you're right at the sweetspot to have the most online activity possible, which will be something you'll begin to care about once you run out of chalice dungeons and pve content.
Wasting points that won't give you any meaningful returns and will just take you out of range to ever enjoy multiplayer, should you ever decide you want it, seems like a poor choice.
Right now you're sitting on a pretty much optimal strength quality build. There's nothing you can really do to make it stronger, unless you think another 5 AR will make a difference.
>>128818306
don't forget when he "let his gf play" when I kept kicking his shit in
please /bbg/, do whatever it takes to kill this guy, bring out the wheel if you must
>>128818440
Servers are a bit shit at the moment.
But I am, and I know a cauliflower and one other are doing it too.
>>128818440
I'd say 15-20. I see the same 4 frequently though.
>>128818165
>>128818172
He streams on twitch sometimes, idk what his name on twitch is, though.
>>128818185
*teleports behind you*
>>128817084
Bruh run through Central Yharnam for vials. Six from werewolves alone.
Also, Moon runes = more echoes = more vials`
>Lady Maria with a pizza cutter
What are you doing m8?
>>128818357
Farm chunks in huy83p9r. FRC Isz. Exit lantern room, lever is to the right, boss is to the left. Fast lever, brainsucker boss is an ez frag. Don't forget to line your brain with eye runes.
>>128818758
Already had a skill build. Wanted to try something new, but still cosplay Maria.
>>128818629
>>128818705
I clearly wasn't being serious bruv
>>128818308
Ludwig's has 17% phys x2 and a 15% droplet.
Kirkhammer has 18% phys, 15% phys/+13.5 phys/stam cost +2.3%, and 18% phys.
>>128818446
I'll probably stay at this level then. My own skill is what's holding me back. I do want to try PvP eventually as I have done so in Souls.
>>128818795
>huy83p9r
Thank you! I just started Loran so I have to work my way to Isz.
>>128818391
There's no such thing as korean gems on a skill build.
You get 3 27s and you're done. It's an hour of watcher farming, tops. This'll allow virtually any skill weapon to 2-3shot.
Strength weapons korean farm blunt gems and heavy abyssals in order to be able to 4shot people. Arcane builds korean farm cold abyssals in order to be able to 3 shot people with dex weapons. blt builds korean farm offshape bloodtinge gems (this is north of the border, you're in Pongyang now) in order to 2shot people.
Skill just farms watchers for a bit and has everything they need. It's objectively the easiest build to farm for while also being the most effective. There's nothing better for skill than 27s, and they don't need anything better. Meanwhile slower weapons need to farm the rice paddies in the desperate hopes that an extra +15% damage aggregate will close the massive damage gap between them and R1 mashing rakuyos/saifs
>>128792567
the comments section, as usual, is the worst. I realize the fanbase for that channel is literally 12 year olds, but ffs
>game isn't hard, I watched piediepie play it
>game sucks, I have more fun with assassins creed and minecraft
Is it a normal reaction or am I an edgelord for wishing these people harm?
>healing
Shame on you koube.
are the shields in bloodborne just joke items?
>>128818872
breh
>>128818980
Loch Shield is good against magic damage.
>doing a roll and then quickly locking on and shooting
This never gets old. That stance is just too cool.
>>128818903
You need better gems, I assume you're a strength build?
>>128818980
One of them is, the other kind of isn't
>>128817504
On my way m8.
>>128818980
Shields are great for cockblocking any bloodtinge weapon that isn't the cannon
But other than guns, yeah, they're shit
>>128818929
so why would you ever play anything but skill then?
How should I make my Hastur-esque character look?
Maybe one day I'll have an internet connection better than 3mbps. Maybe then the Rakuyo won't chop me into pieces from 10 feet away
>lady maria cosplayer deep respecting in spider room waiting for me
>run around the long way to get behind her
>she sees me anyway, does deep respect right in front of me
>run behind, augur to backstab
>fires over her head
>stop
>run away
>silencing blank
Jesus fucking christ how embarassing
>>128819213
I dunno, you tell me
>>128819213
Because you want fun.
>Rakuyo has a good jump attack
Well color me surprised.
>>128819145
Yes. Stats are here >>128817915
As I said in previous posts, I just got to Ailing Loran because I had a hard time figuring out how to unlock it. Gotta work up to Isz now.
Does anyone have that glpyh to a %100 eye rune that wasn't sinister? Someone posted it a while ago and it's not one the google docs and I'd rather just use it than have to make a sinister chalice.
>>128819346
No I don't, I just want to win.
>tfw moved back to temp home
>tfw spent an entire day moving furniture and bullshit
>spend about 3 more hours today trying to find a decent TV to buy (im in a tiny town)
>tfw screwdriver is too big for god damn tv
>tfw been waking up at 6am and doing manual labor two days straight
>tfw the build i want to use has 0 gems
Guess im not doing fight club until like 1 am
>>128815774
Oh I see, you were just pulling my leg, haha very funny anon
can the saw cleaver be a good pvp weapon
I just love its moveset way too much, the transform attacks are pure sex
>>128818465
i loved this guy months ago and i still love him
Demon souls was a much better game. BB is trash. No shields and guns? This game was created for snotty bracefaced preteens.
>>128819489
Then play skill. Rakuyo in first slot, Saif in second. Raise blt enough to use a repeater in your offhand and watch your winrate skyrocket to 90% without really trying
>>128819542
It's the inferior saw, but it's still a saw.
>>128819609
(You)
>>128819479
Bookmark this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/edit?pli=1#gid=1814333532
It's better than whatever bullshit you're looking at in the OP.
7fwgga2i is what you want.