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old: >>128710575

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Character Planners, MP Range/Weapon AR Calculator, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans(Base Game & DLC) and Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems/Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer and Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art and Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101, Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info and DLC Guide Scans
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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Friendly reminder to not reply to tripfaggots.
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>>128753563
Church Pick has Serration. Don't ask me why. It just does.
It's also a Holy Weapon, so there's an added bonus to using it.
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>Got my beast cutta out, fire papered, just curbstomping paarl's head, grounding him
>Anatal whips out his flemmen werfer and werfs it all over him while the cutta just sings through the air
That was fucking brutal
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Looking for the Undead looking character sliders.

I saw an anon with a bald looking undead type character. Even if you don't have the sliders, I'd appreciate a screenshot of your character so I can see how you look, so I can get some inspiration on making an undead looking character.
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I was thinking of making a Beast Cutter build that could do ok in PVP. My idea was I space hit with well spaced whip attacks and then when they try to run away and heal I finish them off with a gatling gun or Blunderbuss. I would organize my stats like this
30 Vitality
30 Endurance
40 Strength
25 Skill
25 Bloodtinge
7 Arcane
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>>128753950
>25 skill
Why
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>>128753950
>beast cutter not on arcane
yawn
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>>128753915
How's the Beast Cutter with 2 31% Blunt Gems and 1 Str Scaling Gem maxed to make it S
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How is Kosm's Parasite fare in PvP?

Full cauliflower included
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>>128753950
50 Vit. No Skill. 20 End. Max STR. No BLT. 15 Arcane for Weapon Buff, Hunter Bone, Beast Roar and Messengers Gift.
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>>128754076
No idea, because I don't have online play. Fuck off and don't ruin my fun by making me aware of all the broken bullshit I'll never be able to do with it.
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>>128753987
You still get a little damage from the skill stat on Beast Cutter so I thought I'd at least keep it to the soft cap. You need all the damage you can get with this weapon. I really don't know what I'm doing.
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I already finished NG and went on to NG+, but haven't played through the DLC. I heard the DLC is pretty hard compared to the regular game, will I just get trampled if I try to play through it for the first time in NG+?
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>>128754151
>no online
KEK

>>128754145
Korean Gems?
Pretty strong. L2 will more than like reduce the other players HP to 10% in one hit.
Dash R1 is hilariously OP.

Plus you get access to OP as fuck spells.
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>>128754145
Requesting that hilarious .webm of the Kosm's Parasite invader that throws two executioner players to their death.
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>>128753179
what about the stats
50/15/11/11/5/65 ?
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>>128754271
I'd say the DLC isn't any harder on NG+ because your level will likely be pretty high by then. It's doable
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>>128753950
Or you could use a build that doesn't suck.
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>>128754271
Their levels increase with all the rest of the content on NG+, so it should be roughly the same difficulty.
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>>128754461
This looks interesting. But would level 98 be good enough to get through high level challice dungeons?
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>>128754395
What level do you plan to stop at?

I went with 50 vit, 50 arc, base str and skll. And 20 or so End and stopped at 98
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>>128754648
It's more than enough
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>>128754271
NG+ DLC is not going to be that bad if you are playing on a finished 98 build. If you try going into with a crappy build though, you will probably get your shit pushed in.

>>128754648
98 is the PvP and co-op meta round dese parts. Also, yes, very easily in fact.
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>>128754648
You can get through the higher level chalice dungeons at 40. I've done it because I have a level 40 twink.
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>>128754679
I was thinking 120 because I don't really do Fight Clubs so the whole 98 meta doesn't matter to me.
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All this beast cutter shit has me interested. I remember using it on my Arcane Character. I also remember loving it. Thinking it was one of the better weapons of the DLC

Since I also haven't used Amy Arm. Figured I'd use both of them combined. And just get the base SKL for Whirligig just incase I find something difficult.

How is Amy Arm and Beast Cutter in PVP
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Can't find bath messengers on the LP chalice dungeon need help guys.
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>>128754894
Then I'd probably go with something similar to pic related if you're dedicate to having 15 STR and 15 Skl.

This way, you can use Ludwig's Holy Blade, Holy Moonlight Greatsword and Whirligig Saw if you choose to.
Ludwig's is actually great for Arcane users since it has A Scaling if I remember correctly. Whirligig is OP as fuck. And considering it's a Serrated weapon in it's transformed state, makes it great for killing beasts with Fire Gems. And Holy Moonlight Greatsword is just a pretty weapon.
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>There's a sewer connected to a library
>That's connected to a Cathedral
>Going through the sewer is required to go from the cemetery to get to the cathedral
Who was the architect for Yarnham?
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>>128755313
not necessary - gate behind cleric beast is closed, and would allow access to cathedral ward
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>>128755313
>caring about Yarnham fucking shits
Whole place would burn if I had my way
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so I've created an FRC chalice

Is having a level 4 normal for these things?

I mean, I literally got Bloodletting Beast and Headless Bloodletting Beast as the level 3&4
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Post sliders, bath messenger would be appreciated.

All I have in return is Micolash Cage.
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>>128755313
That's the back way, sort of like how most residents of Anor Londo would not be walking up rafters to get to the cathedral. They'd be going through the big front gates, if they were open.
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Why does everyone play a pale emo guy or a girl. Where's all the sexy tan men?
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>>128755223
What if I'm intent on just using the Church Pick and Beast Cutter for Fire, Saif for Bolt, and Parasite for ARC?
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>>128755313
Cleric Beast guards the entrance, but it's closed anyway so you have to find an alternative.
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>>128755313
Look when you're drunk on blood all the time stuff like this makes more sense, lay off the guy will ya?

He tried his best and that's what counts in a town that made an elevator that works by shoving a medallion in a dead man's skull.
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>>128755448
>"Hilly-detailed gothic world"
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>>128755448
I was thinking of making a black man for my next character, but I have no idea on the weapon
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what's your favorite right hand and left hand weapons /bbg/?

mines kirk and blunderbuss :3
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>>128755582
Eileen is so cute

and why is Gascoigne like, 7 feet tall?
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>yfw the next Bloodborne or DaS3 has a giant slug boss that teleports tentacles at you and smashes it's twisted hands together to summon a call beyond
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>>128755582
>Left
Repeating Pistol

>Right
PvE: Pizza Cutter
PvP: Rakuyo
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Please take our blood good hunter~
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>>128755457
Well then you should only get the Base Stats for those weapons. Then put the spare points into end
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>>128755707
Everyone draws papa Gascoigne huge.
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>invade a host
>he's using the stake driver
>ok then
>start fighting
>he doesn't even scratch me
>hit him once with a single tricked blade of mercy R1
>third of his health disappears
>he heals it off
>hit him again with an R2
>he's nearly dead, health bar is barely visible.
>mfw he only had around 650 hp

lmao, how the fuck do people play like this? I was only level 60 too so it's not like he was a really low level.
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Eileen probably never even graduated high school tbqh
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>>128755875
I put only like 30 vit on my first character because I didn't know shit and it suffices in pve
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>>128755875
More than 30 vit just really isn't needed in PvE, and you can't be invaded in most areas.
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>>128755753
whaddaya like about those weapons? :3
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>>128755707
Because he is fucking huge.
>use old hunter bell at the beginning of the game when I start NG+
>fucking Gascoigne
>he's like a whole foot taller than you
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>Arianna wears the same dress and shoes as the cainhurst cuties
Reckon she's a lesser noble who escaped either when cainhurst was hit with the beast plague, or when the executioners rolled into town?
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>>128755958
Why ? Because she's black ?
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>>128756035
>>128756035
They are you most fun.

Also fair and balanced.
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>>128754076
Imma tell you this right now.

Beast Cutter is like the easiest weapon to parry
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>>128755707
Have you seen the fucker? He was a beast before he turned.
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>>128756060
>when cainhurst was hit with the beast plague
There is no indication Cainhurst ever got hit by the plague
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>>128755749
>A Call Beyond from each of its tentacles
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>>128756084
>fair and balanced
Kek
I honestly can't tell if you're joking.
>Pizza Cutter
>10k DMG Combos
>Rakuyo
>Spin to fucking win
>Fast as fuck
>hits hard than the fucking Burial Blade
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>>128755749
But babby squid isn't evil.
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>>128756170
Jesus Chros how majestic.
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>>128756084
>balanced
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>>128756243
By the time we're grown we'll know what's best for people, you just need to think on a different level to understand.
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What are the best gems for a Church Pick skill build? Just Phys Up gems, nothing special?
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I want to buy a phonograph and listen to music with Eileen!
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>>128756138
Weapon wielded by the Knights of Cainhurst.
Combines an elegant knight's sword with the peculiar firearm wielded by the Cainhurst order.
The old nobles, long-time imbibers of blood, are no strangers to the sanguine plague, and the disposal of beasts was a discrete task left to their servants, or knights, as they were called for the sake of appearances.
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>>128755390

Wow that looks nothing like Micolash at all.
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I wanted to go all the way to ng+6 with my level 4 but I'm just now realizing how fucking tedious it will be to even get there
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>>128756467
Thrust gems

Transformed mode is all thrust and PvP wise, you'll be doing the one handed poke

A LOT
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How do I savescum? I just finished the fucking CDs and I'm about to create a pwmf to farm radials.
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>>128756735
Oh I was wrong. It kind of implies that the plague wasn't a huge problem at Cainhurst though by calling the disposals discrete.
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>>128756738
Yeah, I'm pretty sure whoever made this was going by the fanart and not his actual face since there aren't many good screenshots of it.
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>>128756796

I meant only for PvE actually. Just wondering if you need a special setup to make it good or if you can just dump Phys Up in it.
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>>128756862

Google "bloodborne savescum"

And you don't savescum for pwmf dungeon, you just remake them each time you clear boss.
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>>128756862
You don't even need to savescum if you're farming basic 27%s from layer 1 bosses, it's probably faster to just remake the dungeon and do it again.

Pretty sure savescumming is for layer 3 and 4 bosses, abyssals, etc.
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>>128753508

What's the best meta pvp level?
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>>128756875
Well yeah, I think as imbibers of pthumerian blood, the cainhurst nobles were quite powerful, more so than your typical yharnamite runt. But still, the executioners obliterated them. The plague must have hit them hard, regardless of how much they underplayed it, if they were so weak as to have the wheelboys roll in and stomp their shit.
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>>128757132
4
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>>128756986
>>128757047
Thanks anons.
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>>128757132
99 in all stats and get invaded by lvl 98s
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>>128757237
Executioners had Logarius and guys like Alfred with them. Poor bastards never stood a chance
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>>128756970
Yeah, dumping physical is okay for the normal

The lost version for ARC is also good

Generally for PvE, you'll be using 2 handed mode a lot for large bosses
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>>128754361
Request fulfilled
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>>128757132
80 - 120 If you want to fight actual PvPers. Around 40 if you want a twink build to destroy newbies.
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>tfw finally beat ludwig after around 5 hours of tries
feels good, and I've only wasted like 25 Blood Pellets
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>>128757132
98.
>Can't be invaded by 150's i.e. Ludwig Greatsword ONLY aka. Reddit fucking shits
>can invade 80's
>Massive build variety because you have to specialize
>highest concentration of players, because most people don't NG+++++++ or even NG+
>still able to coop in DLC easily
>still able to invade in Mergo's
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>>128757359

Thanks. Going for the cursed gems is not really worth it if only doing PvE right? Should I just get the normal +27%?
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>>128757415
Who's the guy with Ludwigs.
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>>128757487
I'm not gonna fuck myself over if I stop at 100, will I?

98 hits my OCD something awful
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>>128757335
Alfred wasn't with them, none of the executioners survived except Logarius.
Alfred was searching for Cainhurst Castle and you give him the summons, allowing him passage.
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>>128757335
>Logarius
Please, you're telling me a few nobles with gunblades couldn't take out Martyr Mc.Parryme? There's something more to it, I think they were weakened severely by staving off the plague.
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>>128757613
Yes. You'll be able to get invaded by 150's.
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>>128757627
>like Alfred

>>128757641
We fight Logarius way past his prime. He was probably flying around like a God damned wizard blasting everyone with skulls.
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>>128757734
>you will never see Memer Logarius, Vendrick, or Gwyn bustin niggas in their primes
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>>128757641
>comparing old, decrepit, undead logarius to logarius in his prime
Anon
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>>128757734
Logarius wouldn't have been blasting people with skulls, that was magic he got for becoming corrupt/insane
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>>128757807
Logy is in his prime.
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>>128757912
What about the executioner gloves? Same kind of magic.
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>>128757815
>>128757734
Aw, come on, did you see how fast that nigger went from old man walking to swagger? I don't really know what happened, but the magic he was casting doesn't seem churchy to me. I'm guessing either the crown or being bathed in cainhurst blood twisted him into something else, something lichly, and as such, I think he was well into his prime. Even if he weren't if the church was so great yharnam wouldn't be so fucked up. Cainhurst was an entire fucking castle. There's no way anything less than an army took it, they could have just closed the gates.
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Reminder that Alfred, when asked about the Healing Church, doesn't even know that much about it and only knows some of the basics of it.

Niggas just a crazy dude who wants to rp irl as an Executioner, nigga doesn't even know how to get to Cainhurst
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Does ARC affect the R1 of the HMS?
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>>128755313
I have the feeling that Cleric Beast was intended to be a much harder boss and after you beat him you could actually ptpgress through the bridge on to cathedral ward. That would be a lot of fun, being able to reach the same goal followimg multiple paths but I guess it had some complications on balancing and shit or they wanted to be sure the player found the gem workshop tool
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>>128758067
Executioner gloves item description:

"The gloves of an executioner from a faraway land."

"Passed from executioner father to executioner son, these gloves can be used to summon wrathful spirits of the past by smearing them with blood."

Executioners got bad ass skull magic and bullet deflecting magic
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>>128758164
I just wish you could open the door back up from the other side.

That would've made things feel a shitton more connected
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Do Moon Runes stack?
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In Dark Souls 3 what they need to do is give us "transformation attacks" but instead of tricking your weapon mid combo, you just two hand it. So you hit triangle or whatever mid combo and you two hand your weapon mid swing, and then stay in two handed form.

>>128758682
They do.
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>>128758164
I'd buy this except he has the Wheel Hunter Badge and Executioner Gear.

The Badge says:
Martyr Logarius led a band of Executioners, and this badge was crafted at their dedicated workshop. The Wheel symbolizes righteous destiny.

Their workshop was a secretive enclave of mystical beliefs and heady fanaticism which served as the backbone of the Executioners' unique brand of justice.

So I'm pretty sure he is an Executioner
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>>128758685
Is the hunter DP'ing her with Gehrman?
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>>128758685
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Any place in the story game where I can find fire gems as good as the 20% bolt ones you get from fish thunderwizards?
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>>128758779
what if he just grabbed the badge along with the other Exec gear when he was getting dressed up for his rp adventure from wherever he got the gear
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>>128759016
This is plausible. The executioners were all dead. Alfred idolized the man do you think he wouldn't go with him to smash vilebloods? Their workshop was empty, maybe he just stumbled into it as shit got real and was infected by their fanaticism.
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>>128757375
God, why does the tracking on ACB have to be so shit.
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>>128759136
that's what I think. It's just too weird to be a specialized member of a special sect of the Church and not know much about the church about "Oh y'know I think I heard they venerate blood in the main cathedral"

He says "you're a hunter, that's how I started out too" when you first meet him, that's not the exact quote but it's pretty close.
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>>128759136
He might have been too young to go slaughter the Vilebloods so they left him behind. Alfred does seem pretty young.
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>Alfred's elation when he finally manages to kill the queen

Little did he know...
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>>128759240
It's already op as fuck, did you not see it clip the host and deal 500+ damage?
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Can anyone here confirm that the beast cutter is strictly blunt damage?
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>>128759637
>use ACB
>800 damage
>for 7 bullets

I get that from 3 blacksky eyes.
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>>128759485
>too young to go slaughter the Vilebloods
I don't think they get the concept
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What is Ebrietas' name in Japanese and what does that literally translate to in English?
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>>128759569
He knew exactly how immortal Annalise was

He was banking on it, him grinding her beneath the wheel was just as much about torturing her and showing how weak she was as it was about putting her down for good.

The only other person who knew about her location and get up there was the person that pointed Alfred in her direction in the first place
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>>128759485
Would he have been alive then? It sounds like it happened a really long time ago.
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>>128759707
The point is high burst damage. For example, in PvP, aCB could one shot an opponent, but they could heal between BSE hits.
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>>128759692
this girl is 10/10 pirate chara design
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Whats the best variety for the saif?
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>>128759945
The one with two radials and a triangle.
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Requesting some help for chain ball undead giant. Pw bbg5
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Asked in the old thread but it died shortly after. Does anyone have sliders for something similar to a skeleton/grim reaper or skull? I've seen people talk about it on here occasionally, want to know if anyone actually has the sliders for it though
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>>128759692
It's literally in the OP. Yes it is.
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>Wheel does less damage transformed
Oh. Does it lose its str scaling or something?
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I just had the Cleric Beast fight glitch out on me.

First, he just stopped moving and kept standing completely still.

Second, which is even weirder, I could only run into a straight line. I could backstep, but whichever direction I pushed the control stick in, I would run into a straight line.

Is this a known issue?
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>>128760097
No takers I guess. Silencing bell.
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>>128760357
I've had it happen to me. Something to do with viscerals
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>>128759828
Ebrietas hoshi no musume means Ebrietas daughter of the stars
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>>128760456

Because I was relatively close to him I managed to backstep away from the wall I was running into and hit him while he was standing still. This cause him to move again and after he hit me once I was able to move freely again as well. What a weird bug.
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>>128760654
Neat, thank you
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>>128760401
ANON STILL NEED HELP?

>>128760339
Sorry anon, thank you

>>128759898
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>>128754839
tfw cant beat chain undead giant at lvl 60
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>Can't just shot the Brainshitters out of their spells
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>>128761041
Does everyone have problem with the chain giant? He's a lot easier than the giant with 2 curved sword things
Fuck that one
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>>128761041
The melee swings that have a chain sweep following them have a longer wind up. Just watch for that. You should be able to get a poke in after the chains.
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Any tips on how to deal with that beast claw enemy in Hunter's Nightmare? I can't seem to be able to do any proper damage to him.
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>password co-op scales you down now

What exactly does it scale apart from HP? Does your damage down too? I can't find an answer anywhere, it seems like no one knows. All the bloodborne patch notes say is:

"If the level difference between the host and the guest when matched using a password is large, the guest's stats will be adjusted to match the host's"

What "stats"?
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>>128761242
Honestly I just stuck him to the wall and stunlocked him out of existence
Always try baiting and parrying
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>>128761245
In my experience it scales your damage back too so you're not doing huge damage to bosses. It's really finely tuned. It lowers your HP and Stamina.
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>>128761473
Woooow that sucks. Guess you can't just level to 400 or something and help people stomp ludwig.
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>>128761245
It lowers pretty much everything (hp, stamina, damage) if you are outside your hosts natural range.
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>>128761413
>stunlocked
How? Your stamina is going to run out eventually.
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>>128761245
What I don't understand is why you get scaled down to the beckoner's level and not to the highest level in the beckoner's range.
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>>128761648
40 stamina
+20%
+15%
Even if you do run out just back away and keep him to the wall with a blunderbuss or of you're arc use the augur
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>>128761765
>40 stamina
wut
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>28 str for the gattling gun
Fuck, I wanted to use it on my dex/blt build
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>>128761839
anon stuck in DS1 era
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>>128760346
Guys, is this right or am I doing something wrong?
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Early arcane build was a pain but it's really paying off now. Fucking annihilated Ebrietas.
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>>128761907
>dex
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Is there any lore that explains why you respawn at the lantern the way bonfires are explained in DaS?
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>>128762031
You know what I meant you fucking faggot.
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>>128761925
DeS era* :^)
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>>128761907
Using a fucking handheld minigun with dex. Nah bro, i'm pretty sure you're gonna need some strength for that shit.
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>>128762228
Of course but I forgot that the strength requirement was so high
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Some one post the Yahar'gul jumps
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>>128762283
Yeah, it is pretty high for something that doesn't even scale with strength, and gets a D in blt at +10
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someone wants to help me with Lawrence?

faggot is wrecking my shit
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>>128762034
I assume it's because your bound to the Dream by your contract as a Hunter, and the MP powers all that supposedly or whatever.
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>>128762225
>313
the fuck m8
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>>128762225
>1500 AR
what weapon? hammer?
>>
>doll claps when you make contact to her
She knows
>>
>there's a lamp right outside Ludwig

Well that's like 3 hours of my life gone
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>>128762225
>313
>only 50 vit

What the fuck were you thinking? I've seen bl 98s with more vit than you.

Or do you only PvE?
>>
apparently the new DLC for Bloodborne was a flop commercially. Look at any console outlet and the ps4 is never packaged with Bloodborne and its not displayed prominently as a platform exclusive in the same way as uncharted. In terms of sales the game isn't even in the top 20 of ps4 games bought in December.
>>
>people seriously still respond to this retarded 313 shitter
wew
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>>128762715
I had no idea either for the longest time. So much time waster running the whole level to die to him
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>>128762746
niche
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>>128762790
>i'm getting neglected, it's so unfair
(you)
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>>128762746
Well I'm playing Uncharted now and it's fucking terrible.
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>>128762818
Who the hell sees a boss room and doesn't explore other directions first?
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1) When is DeS coming to Ps4? I really want to play it.

2) What's the reason for the sneks and snekmen and snek shadows in the snek woods AND in the nightmare?
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>>128762926
I was too busy running past the giant fucker with a cannon the size of a truck.
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>>128762987
this

Motherfucking fuck I am boiling with salt right now, I am so mad I don't feel like getting mad
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>>128762746
>apparently the new DLC for Bloodborne was a flop commercially
Citation needed. Or any actual numbers.
Only thing google tells me are sales of BB.
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>>128762746
>>128762823
>>128762920

Most of the souls series fanbase seems to be on pc if Ds2 is any indication.
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>>128762587
Nah HLMS but look at my beasthood m8 without it it's only 1070 AR
My hammer does about 900something

>>128762728
Why the fuck does everyone complain about my vit, it used to be 40 you faggots are lucky I made the jump to 50, I don't like much health + I got the 15% rune on m8
I do pvp and co-op a lot
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Which chalice enemies are weak to ARC? Only those in Pthumeru?

>can't decide whether to go with Parasite or Cane
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>>128763107
So run in the other direction after Ludwig slaps your shit once.
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So how does one make beast hood work? I can't fill my bar for shit.
>>
Does anyone know if the "run through the forbidden woods to iosefka's and then run around the table for infinite blood echoes" glitch was patched out?
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>>128763363
Hit things and don't get hit yourself.
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Thinking of making a pve twink that's like an "anti-boss" or terminator type character that uses whirligig. The thing is I've already got one that's 34/15/30/13/7/6 level 55. Am I too high for low level areas and should I start over again?
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>>128762790
I don't understand you dude why does my level and stats have anything to do with you
You have absolutely no reason to be upset about something that will never have any effect on you, you're childish as fuck and I hope you see me in future DS3 threads with my level 600-800 character
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>>128763419
I've never heard of that glitch
wow
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>>128763424
Yea but the bar increases so fucking little and goes down so fast.
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>>128763530
Keep hitting things then.
>>
>playing with friend
>says "hypnogean GAY-OLL"

I wanted to smack the silly out of him
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>>128763419
wat
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>>128762715
what the fuck, seriously? where is it?
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>>128763352
I didn't know there was another path because Ludwig is a grade A bonafide nigger cunt asshole dickbagand I'm buttmad as shit all the time running back to horsey
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sorry for bad england

i want to play PIRATE MAN, like gagnplak

how do i become PIRATE MAN???
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>>128763154
Just saying, you could get an extra 400 HP if you went 99/40/55/55/55/60 and leveled up once. Giving you 1900 base or 2400 with 2 hp runes.
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>>128763750
Your memes are yet to open
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>>128763530
Different attacks fill it up at different rates. Find the one that works best for your weapon of choice.

Examples: For the Saw Spear it seems to be the L1 attack. For LHB it seems to be the large form's R1.

Dude, when you get past the Cannon dude there is a split. You can clearly go to the left or right.
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>>128763626
>Hypogean Gaol isn't actually underground
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>>128763750
Saw Spear or Rifle Spear, tons of fire paper, either Pistol or Cannon, then go murder Djura the Durka for his hat since its the most pirate-looking hat in the game. As for armor, I can't really think of any coat that really looks like the one Gangplank wears that isn't either just the hunters garb or the YardHam hunters garb you buy at the beginning.
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>>128763673
To the right of the cannonfag in front of Ludwig.
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>>128763818
Well, the actual gaol is hypogean
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Hey weenies I want the wheel and I want it now, help me fuck logarius. Level 42 at fog gate pass is bbgmeme.
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>>128763504
>>128763640
seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3AbafzrF7w
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>>128764314
Of course the fucker has to put "mr destiny" right over the echoes.
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If you wear healing church clothes when you talk to ludwig you get an alternate dialouge, I didn't knew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnBi44UZ798

>Ind the end, all I see is.... moonlight

God fuckking damn I love this game
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>>128764291
Yo do you still need help?
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>tfw can't try the HMLS because it requires ONE SPECIFIC BUILD
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Whats the best way to farm blood echoes between levels 40-70?
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>>128764941

That's what 'build' means, senpai.
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>>128764314
EPIC glitch for an INSANE amount of blood echoes, it's so much faster and easier than just putting on three moon runes then going through Upper Mensis in 2 minutes for 60 times as many blood echoes
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>>128764947
Lower Loran
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>>128764930
I dunno if he does but I do in the same location.
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>>128764881
I wish if you wore Gehrmans outfit, Maria would give you different dialogue

>that scythe
>those chothes

>they remind me of my mentor
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>>128765269
pass?
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>>128765386
videogam
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Does HMS's regular damage scale off of arcane? Just transformed? Just the projectiles??
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>A corpse... should be left well alone.
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>>128765462
I'm coming too
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>>128765462
Ringing.
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>>128765462
logarius? I can go if you need a 2nd anon
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>>128765489
not if i fuck it first, weebslut
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>>128763439
Bumping I guess.

In short: what's a good low level pizza cutter build?
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>>128765545
>>128765546
>>128765606
son of a bitch, got caught on the wall, my bad.

I'm on the way back, will ring again
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>>128765489
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Anyone got a low depth chalice glyph that has messengers?
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>finally get gud enough for Ludwig's first phase
>get fucked in his second phase because first time
>can't get past first phase anymore

I have never ever felt so defeated in my life
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>>128765462
smithie :^)
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>>128765879
Level?
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>>128765924
Wasn't me senpai :^)
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anybody want to help me with defiled amy? I'm ringing at the lantern.
password is fukamy
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Do I go to the forbidden woods or henwick after amelia earhart?
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>>128766004
I meant >>128765807
:(
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>>128765741
This one isn't that good, the crowsteel one is way better and actually suits imo.
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>>128765462
Based kanamides, tyvm
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>>128765961
43
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>>128766087
COMING
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need help with logarius
pw is bbg
BL 44
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>>128766178
hi waifutard

have you made sure to kill yourself in front of the doll today like the autist you are
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>>128766206
>twink can't even get to his weapons
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>>128766112
Ahh was about to say! Might go kill giant tentacle great one douche to get the chalice... Want to help? I'll message on PS4 as the re post time sucks.
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>>128766298
I'm sorry I'm not well versed with soulsborne in general so I'm afraid I don't know what twink is, I'm just venting here
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Anyone have that wallpaper with doll and hunter laying on her lap, it's pretty wide in size iirc
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>>128766261
Still ringing?
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>>128766261
Get close to him. Wait for him to hit you. Shoot him.
Continue to Parry Lock him.

One thing I hate about this game, every single fucking human boss turns into Gwynn. Easiest fucking casual shit ever.
>Parry
>2k
>Parry
>2k
>Parry
>2k
Literally dead in less than 10 seconds
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>>128766642
nope got him in the meantime
thanks though
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Fightclub in ~6 hours.
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How the fuck are you supposed to beat defiled hotdog?
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>>128766087
bl 116 forgot to mention
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>>128764947
Cainhurst. Entire place will get you around 100k It's easy and relatively quick
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>>128766293
Woah now, someone's a little triggered. I couldn't give to shits about maria or doll, I'm just sayin. Where the fuck did half-vampire come from? And staying up all night? And why mention the stats? It's trying way to hard to be edgy.
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>>128766763
With the help of some anons?
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>>128764947
Slime students in Lecture Building. 14k in one minute.
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>>128766414
Never mind then.

Though that is a little low to be fighting Ludwig, the DLC is considered end-game content so it's going to be hard at that level.

Twink is when you get good gear at a low level to fuck with other low levels that don't have the best gear, 43 happens to be the twink meta that most people do this at.
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>>128766881
>It's trying way to hard to be edgy

You mean like Maria herself, who uses literal tides of blood with her blood katana
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>>128766881
Just some one dedicated to their memes. Been pushing it for a while now
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Amy Arm and Based Cutter are pretty fun to use in unison.

Neither are top tier. But I feel like they're some of the more better designed weapons.
Beast Cutter is easy to parry in it's transformed state. But it gives you some extreme range for a Strength weapon. And I love having a huge as fuck whip with that crazy amount of stagger.
And Amy Arm has some crazy movesets. The Charged R2 then R2 again ALWAYS tricks people into running into a 600 DMG hit. And that Transformed Mode R2 double hit flail thing is just as good.

It's too bad that they're both pretty average in comparison to Kirks Raw DMG or Whirligig's Blatant overpowered bullshit.
Still -- I can't handle using any other STR weapons over them. They're just too fun to give up.

I hope DaS 3 gives us some whips similar to Bloodborne. Specifically a big, hefty str one. And a Weird Alien Arm thing.
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Should I bump my Vit to 47, Skill to 47, or split my last two levels from bl98 to Vit 46 Skill 46?

Currently my skill quality build is
Vit 45
End 15
Str 28 (for gatling gun)
Skill 45
Blt base
Arc base

also what other weapon is a good sub for Church Pick?
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>>128766882
If you're willing to help I'll ring

Pw is hotdog
BL 98
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>>128767121
What do you meme by that?
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>>128766245
you still coming bud?
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>>128767301
Coming
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>>128767238
Lhb, go 46/46
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>>128765489
Shut up Maria. Let me kill the Orphan so I can end this nightmare for everyone
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>>128767360
Thanks, I'm ringing by the fog gate
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>>128767301
I would but i don't know how to do coop in chalice dungeons
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>>128766707
Hype.
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>>128767524
I'm just in the story defiled phtermu or whatever if that helps
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>>128765741
This is basically how I felt about Maria after I was done fighting her the first time.
"White haired girl in a tricorn hat and trenchcoat that dual wields katana made out of blood, and then impales herself with her katana and lights them on fire. Also she can teleport and has a gun."
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>>128767371
oh hey LHB doesnt need any Arc reqs to use, neat. I'm going to need an Uncanny version for physical damage though. Have never tried making Root dungeons before. I always got bored at around Lower Ailing Loran.
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>Get crowsteel to like 5%
>He gets a hit in followed by a shot that kills me
FUCK
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>>128767621
ok ringing
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>>128766707
>tfw you want to fite people but your gems are shit
>>
>mfw a fetus with a yoyo organ poses more of a threat than a trained fighter with dual blood katanas that also has teleportation and the power of stabbing herself to imbue her blades with fire.
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>>128766707
I've never PvP'd before even though I've spent a fuckton of hours in CDs, gonna get absolutely demolished. All my characters are 120 though, a quality build, a SKL/BLT build, a STR/ARC build and a 99 ARC build, which one should I bring?
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>>128767746
>need to rice 3 hours speed running through nonroot dungeon then more hours for good gems
RNG ruined Bloodborne end game.
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>everyone talks about how crowsteel is hard as fuck
>finally get to that quest
>easiest fight I have done in a while
>guy even fucking walks when not in blood mode
>didn't even have to heal
Well that was boring.

Guess I now know why he's so butthurt at people seeing his Vileblood register.
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>>128768121
But did you actually fight him legit? Or did you cheese him?
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>>128768238
Not him but the fight can be very easy depending on your weapon. My first ting fighting him was a str char with hunters axe, and I just kept doge poking him with the transformed axe.
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How the fuck am I supposed to beat the first chalice twice with that kinda build, giving virtually no damage and almost zero hp?
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Can someone please help with amy. Password is fukamy.
BL 116
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>>128768441
>Zero HP
You only stack HP and Arc.
>no damage
How bad a player are you?

I followed that guide to the fucking letter. Now I'm a Cauliflower.

Maybe you should check your human privilege, shitlord.
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>>128767456
SRRC is a cunt. You still there?
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>>128766104
>>128766104
>>128766104
Any help guys?
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>>128768608
I only do damage when fire in involved and I don't have infinite fire papers.
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>>128768756
Then call for help. Or git gud.

Again, many people have followed that guide to the letter.
>>
Cauliflower girl or beast form girl; which would you give the D?
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>>128768636
>>128767727
Thanks so much anon!
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>>128769223
No problem
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>>128769165
Ayy
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>>128769165
Beast girl definitely. Though that's only if I HAVE to choose.
>fuck a cauliflower
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>>128768705
Hemwick has the rune workshop tool, and the way to Cainhurst. But you would need to go to the Forbidden Woods first if you want to go there.
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>>128768756
>I don't have infinite fire papers.
So get the gems genius
>>
Saif is overrated
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>>128765004
This. It also allows multiple builds if you level past 98.

>>128769547
No, it's not.
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>>128769547
It's quick and has a good moveset. I just can't handle it's average damage, when weapons like the Rakuyo or Burial Blade exist.
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>>128769436
I do? I got all the way up opening the gate in Hemwick. Should I still do Woods first?
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>>128769547
say that after tonight fuccboi
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>>128769821
Go to Hemwick. It's small, has an easy boss and gives you the Rune Workshop tool. You don't need to do the Woods first.
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>>128769990
Hemwick is easier if you do it before Amelia too.
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>only thing I need before I dive into chalices is to do the NF

I fucking dread that shit.
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>see the saif and scythe in pvp
>want to try them out
>tfw skill build character is ugly
;___;
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>>128769738
>average damage
Wut. You can get over 600 if you gem it correct and at/close to 600 if you just use 27.2s
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>>128769990
Will do fampai. Why does the lantern at the start of the area not let me teleport to it?
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>>128769738
It's main benefit is its moveset. It's also more of a Quality weapon than a straight skill weapon.
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>>128769738
don't listen to the tripfag, it's only quality in the same way that the burial blade is, which is to say it has str scaling but it's not worth investing in until you have 50skl already
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>>128770396
She is only ugly if you believe she is. This is my skill character (She now wears Cainhurst Gauntlets and Leggings).

Her name is Karas.*

>*TL: Karas is Japanese for Crow.
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>>128770635
Quality is still a thing?
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>>128770635
Is it not worth upgrading on a pure skill build?
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>>128770801
It's about an extra 45 damage a swing if you get 25 str.

>>128771037
It is definitely worth it for a skill build. It just works best on a Skill leaning quality build.

>>128770908
Quality is just what we can str + skl builds because of the upgrade path in DeS.
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>>128770396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ08tgfCOVU
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>>128770635
>under 50 VIT

wew
>>
>>128770828
*TL Ugly is ugly in any language and all of Lucifer's characters are mutated trannies
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>>128771389
jesus christ, it seems that every build I see here is bad for low vit. It's like the only good build was that one guy with 80 Vit on lvl 98
>>
>pick up Saif from DLC
>radial, radial, waning
absolutely disgusting
guess I'll have to go toss myself into shitty chalices
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>>128755575
Any pistol to count as his Glock and BoM for his prison shanks
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>>128770396
>>128771317
some people just dont know how to shape what they like
>>
What's the general skill level of the 6cb fight club? I hope I don't get styled on for practicing with the based cutter
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What is a good, non-chalice dungeon place to farm chunks?
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Co-oping Ludwig is a waste of vials and bullets.

Every beckoner dies either to his jump or his big sword AOE.
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>>128771317
That looks really bad from any angle other than straight on.

>>128771389
You are just a retarded parrot. You have no idea why we shoot for 50 or why and when adjusting down slightly is acceptable.

>>128771590
45 to 46 vit with two clocks is plenty.

>>128771538
All dat mad.
>>
Can you still get behind Iosefka's clinic through the fence in that area with the coffins that's right next to the entrance to central yharnam near the beginning of the game? The place with the executioner.
>>
>>128771590
>how to build a bloodborne character
pick damage stat
raise to 50
rest goes in vit
don't touch anything else unless it's for weapon reqs
and never ever raise endurance
>>
>>128771695
It varies wildly from completely new but trying to peeps that have been around since launch. Just do your best and try to have fun. You might get 2shot by korean folded steel, but you'll find plenty of people as inexperienced as you.

I hope for your sake that cutter is gemmed, though.
>>
>>128771769
I think you can if you opened the door.
>>
provide a list of viable weapons
>>
>>128771695
generally better than most people in mensis/nf but not by much. There are some people who will style on you but as a newlad you're in good company
spoilered for shilling, but this is was last fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh-aA7kClog
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>>128771670
No, the reason she is ugly, is because I fucked up her skin colour. She looks like a blonde chick that has been in a solarium for 24 hours.
I learned from my mistakes though.
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>>128771729
Upper Cathedral Ward Wolves.

>>128771760
You need to git gud (and OP). Most of my 80+ vermin came from Ludwig co-op. The only thing that becomes and issue are BBPs.

>>128771770
>how to give out easy frags, the build
>>
>>128767842
use the 99 arc one for possible instant kills and rage. You'll probably trigger everyone into using bone marrow ash or bloodletter / arcane builds themselves though.
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>>128771972
Whirligig Saw
Rakuyo
Bloodletter
Kos Parasite

using anything else is suboptimal and you're a literal hipster for doing so
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>>128772110
thank you
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>>128771767
not at all
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>>128772110
>Whirligig Saw
>Rakuyo
>Bloodletter
>Saif

FTFY
>>
>>128772110
adding saws and saif to this, but otherwise it's spot on.
>>
>>128772110
>posts 4 different builds
One of those builds is better than the others, so at least 3 of those weapons are also suboptimal
>>
>>128771972
viable as in easy to use? Saif, bloodletter, Kos parasite, Rakuyo.

You can make the other slower weapons work but you'll actually have to read the other guy's patterns.
>>
>>128772287
if we're being honest there's literally no reason to use anything other than Whirligig saw, hence there's only one good build in the game and unless you're using it, you're garbage at the game and should just stop
>>
>>128771770
>and never ever raise endurance
sounds like you're asking to be R1'd to death after exactly one move.
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>>128772221
>That 90s anime nose

>>128772287
>Whirligig is best for PvE.
>Rakuyo is best for 1v1 PvP.
>Bloodletter is best for anti-ganking.
These three are optimal.


The Parasite is only useful against retards.
>>
>>128771950
I've been trying for about 10 minutes and I can't even get up on the ledge, and I did it on two characters before this, but that was months ago. I suspect it got patched out.
I could be wrong though.
I just want the cainhurst summons so I can have a reiterspallasch as early as possible.
>>
>>128772521
So because PvE is easy anyway, the Rakuyo is the only good weapon in the game?
Thank you.
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How's this for a full arcane cauliflower?
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If i want to use Rakuyo/burial blade, how far should I bump arcane?
>>
I never want to fight another dog in a FROM game again.
>>
>>128772623
No, but if you only care about 1 v 1 PvP then it is the best weapon in the game.
>>
>>128772634
you get more out of 2 HP runes than using a defense rune
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>>128772415
The problem with pattern-reading is that, in general, a good player either doesn't follow a pattern you can exploit with a slow, shitty weapon, or else they'll correct it after being baited once.

When your entire playstyle relies on tricking and baiting your opponent, it'll stop working when they realize they're being tricked and stop falling for your bait. This comes back to the whole "is your opponent's stupidity viable" thing and the answer is that it'll work great until you find opponents that aren't stupid, at which point you have no weapon.
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>>128772698
don't bump at all if that's the only thing you want from ARC.
Burial Blade gets very little from ARC, to the point where it's not worth it. Rakuyo gets nothing at all, it's a pure Skill weapon.
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>>128772698
Not at all, unless you want to use a specific tool for some reason, in which case, just the base amount for that tool.

>>128772794
Well said.
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>>128772867
the wiki says it has scaling though.

Anyways thanks. Is it worth taking to 15 for old hunter's bone?
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>people thinking anything slow will ever be viable in PvP in any game
Speed will always trump everything else
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I just arrived in Korealand /bbg/...
Why is it so fucking boring? I hate grinding for a single gem for hours. Why couldn't FROM think of a better system like gem fusion or some shit like that?
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>>128772960
forgot my image
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>>128772960
>for old hunter's bone?
No. It's 18 or nothing.

Get 18, 25, or 40+ Arc or none at all.
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>>128773134
scaling in Arcane always refers to arcane damage. Basically that D scaling is if, and only if, you do Arcane, Fire, or Bolt gems on it. It has no bearing on the physical damage if you have it set for physical gems.
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>>128773014
Nah, Nightmare is better than Raphael and he's way slower.
It's only about speed when you can react to it and the game allows you to be a reactive piece of shit like in bloodborne.
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>>128772960
Every weapon has an ARC scaling but few actually get anything from it. I think it's because of the blood gem thing where you can convert your weapon into pure arcane damge.
I'm not sure how good the basic hunter tools are at PVP. I use them but I didn't go online much outside of co-op so it's up to you.

Just don't neglect your vitality in the process, that goes for both PVE and PVP.
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>beat crowsteel in one go
Blacksky eye is great.
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>>128765478
PLS
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>>128773134
Pure physical weapons only apply their Arc scaling if you slot them with an Arcane, Fire. or Bolt gem, but that makes them lose their physical scaling.
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>>128773014
It's not like it's mechanically impossible for slow things to trump fast things in these games, it's just the nature of the number balance that from has always erred to the extreme on the side of small, fast weapons over large slow ones.

Back when they made armored core games, there were a few where being as big, fat and slow as possible was the meta and anything smaller and faster was choked out completely by big and beefy. Pretty much since then, every game they've made has leaned hard in the other direction, probably because when big and slow is good, the game turns into more of a numbers competition and things like being agile and reacting quickly matter much less.
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>>128770396
Saif is for shitters
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how do people actually enjoy one-weapon metas?
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>>128773186
8/10, head looks too small.
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>>128765478
>>128773360
Only the projectiles see any significant scaling from Arc.

>>128773376
I would say that DaS1 was pretty balanced. Slower weapons were viable thanks to poise.
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>>128773438
But I use Whirlgig Saw!
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>>128773484
>one-weapon metas
what did he mean by this?
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>>128766707
>US time
Annoying.
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>>128773484
There isn't a one weapon meta unless you level to 150 and up.
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>>128773484
the less fun you have, the better it is
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>>128773581
When there's only one weapon anyone ever uses, because there's never a reason to use anything else.
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Can someone help kill rom in cd?
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>>128773638
>Rakuyo shits all over every other weapon in the game
>NO ONE WEAPON META BRO

The only reason that the meta doesn't look like a 1-weapon meta is because everyone's a fucking hipster holding out using shitter weapons like ayylmao or Bloodletter.
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>>128773731
There are plenty of reasons to use something else.
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Leveling a skill character, at 26 now. Anyone wanna kill Amygdala with me?

pass videogam
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>>128773484
One weapon metas tend to be the final form of from games because one moveset/damage output ratio eventually resolves to be the objectively best.

DaS2 had like a million massive balance patches and they still only managed to make the final meta a ~5 weapon one, in a game of well over 100 weapons. A game like BB, where the devs refuse to properly nerf anything and only give token stamina cost reduction to the worst weapons in the game was bound to end up in a 1 weapon meta,
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>>128773731
this isn't the case though, the 'optimal weapon lists' above aren't even followed, tons of people use different weapons because the one weapon meta is for people who want to use the saw spear
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>>128773872
Demon's Souls never had any balance patches and that had a bunch of widely used weapons
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>>128773845
Bloodletter is objectively better than the rakuyo.
The rakuyo is barely even a top tier weapon, all it really has going for it is the space control and rollcatching with its mashable R1 combo.
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Anyone want to help me get through the defiled chalice? Depth 3 and password is bbg. I just died with a bunch of echoes on me and I want to get them back
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>>128773871
fug meant 56
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>>128771627
literally any chalice messenger bath will sell you uncanny/lost versions of DLC weapons if you have them in your inventory
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Living Failures/Tripfags anyone? Bl35 pass is ayy
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The fact that DaS ended up with a 5-10 weapon meta is nothing short of a miracle IMO. From can't balance for shit.

Even in Armored Core where customization reaches autismal levels of depth, the best pieces and weapons were eventually figured out and everyone would be running them in multiplayer.
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>>128773987
Because DeS was a hipster game for hipsters. It had a meta, but it had more people deliberately deviating form that meta for the sake of being unique butterflies than it had people adhering to it for the sake of optimal performance.

Nobody ever took DeS pvp seriously, anyways. It's the worst in the series.
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>>128773872
>and they still only managed to make the final meta a ~5 weapon one
Mostly because in DaS2 you can carry 6 weapons at once, and character builds don't exist. So even though it's a 5 weapon meta, every character uses those same 5 weapons all at once.
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>Unending death awaits those who pry into the unknown
>Unending death awaits those who pry into the unknown
>Unending death awaits those who pry into the unknown
>Unending death awaits those who pry into the unknown
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>>128773731
Some people like to win no matter what. Even if you're afk. The duel is doesn't matter to them. Only win. "Brush Off Dust" is necessarily gesture after win
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>>128773845
Just because it is the best doesn't mean there is no reason to use anything else.

What if you want to PvE?
What if you are fighting gank squads?
What if the Rakuyo becomes so widely used that people learn to read all your moves?

Etc.

>>128774108
DeS never had a single best.
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How fast can you beat BB /bbg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRhDlaZ0npM
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>>128774203
>Just because it is the best doesn't mean there is no reason to use anything else.
You must be a special kind of retarded to not see the contradiction in this statement
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Does anyone know if they patched the Old Yharnam skip or is it still viable? I just found out about it and it'd save me a lot of time in ng+ since that's my next area. Webm related
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Is Logarius magic attack Arcane or Blood damage?
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>>128774223
If I really wanted to I could probably do it in 4 hours or less.
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>>128774114
You can't actually carry 6 weapons without gouging vit and the meta doesn't afford any points for vit unless you're a breakpoint poisebuild. After they nerfed it, armor stopped mattering entirely, so most characters are just dark-infused robflynns.

You're right that one buiold can use all 5, but that's because none of them require more than 25 into str or dex, and dark-infusing gives better damage at base int/fth than uninfused has at 50str/dex, so every build is just the minimum stats to wield the meta weapons and the rest into end and vig.
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>>128774203
>Just because it is the best doesn't mean there is no reason to use anything else.

what next, some people don't die even when they are killed?
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>>128774362
Arcane.
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>>128774407
Famous last words, Djura.
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>>128773831
Help
Pw bbgrom
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>>128774310
>>128774407
You must be the literal kind of retard to not read the rest of the post you quotes which explains exactly why it is not a contradiction.
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ok, started Defiled Chalice, beat the first floor boss.

I know for a fact that the next boss is Watchdog, and that everyone else has a fucking hard time with it. Hell, even I struggle on it with full health. You guys got any tips to kill this fucker fast?
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>>128774360
I made that web just about a week or two ago. It still works.
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>>128774360
why not try for yourself?
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>>128774310
Being the best doesn't mean being the best at everything. It just means that overall it has the best qualities. Other weapons might be better suited to specific tasks.
That's just semantics anyways because in this case there's never a reason not to use Rakuyo in PvP.
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>>128774392
>"meta" in a game without SL matchmaking
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>>128774223
never really timed myself nor do I think it'll ever be a category but I think I did everything up to mensis and picked up all CD-related items within like 2 and half hours
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>>128774503
Nose Bopping is by far the safest way of beating it, and that takes around 3 to 4 minutes at most. Far less than having to fight it over and over again, thanks to a bad dodge and shitty hit boxes.
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>>128774496
no, you're the fucking retard.

You are saying it's the best, then saying reasons why it's not the best.

Either Rakuyo isn't the best or it is. It's that fucking simple.
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>tfw Bloodborne has zero replay value and the PvP is pure shit
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>>128774465
thanks I was thinking Arcane but the red might suggest blood
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>>128774503
I just beat him with Queen Killer's help. Queen Killer is a fucking tank and should be able to carry you through most of the fight. Bring any buffs you got. Bone marrow ash helps a fuck ton when you dont want to get close but he has a couple hits left
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>>128774678
Hi neogaf
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>>128774478
Ringing
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>>128774503
get a saw
pop a pellet
dodge through a bite
break the legs
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Question regarding the Gatling gun: is it even worth using BMA on? Seems like I'd want to roll Cannon/Church Cannon if I plan on abusing BMA
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>>128774503
I do it like this:
-Equip a saw cleaver, trick it.
-Stay in front of it and bait the bites, R1 in the face when on recovery
-When it goes for the lava vomit, untrick weapon, get close to the front legs and wack it until it breaks, hit until it recovers and roll away
-After this he will do a AoE followed by a blind charge forward or some random swipes, as long as you're not in front you're safe.
- Repeat until dead.
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>>128774649
>>128774703
>>128774762
>>128774945

so that's at least four different ways to tackle this hard as fuck boss

god damn i love this game. thanks guys
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>>128774678
The PvP has zero variety, but it isn't bad.
Just because there's only one setup that's used doesn't mean there's no skill involved in actually winning.
In fact, isn't PvP better when every fight is a perfectly equal mirror match?
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>>128774749
Dammit
Got hit in a roll
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>>128775056
ringing again
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>>128775049

if I wanted to play a variety-less skill-based 1v1 game I'd play Nidhogg because at least then the combat is super interesting
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>>128774553
Arenas have sl matchmaking, that's where the whole cancerous sl150 twitchmeta took off.
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Blacksky Eye makes Amygdala and Ebrietas trivial.
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>>128775049
>tfw no one takes your shitpost seriously so you samefag and try again
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>>128775208
The bowblade makes amy kinda trivial
Just keep shooting the head
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>blonde doll
it's white
WHITE
maria is blonde
blonde is SHIIIIT
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>>128774668
I am saying that it is the best for one scenario in particular, then offering examples that show why it is still not the only weapon worth ever using.

Are you literally autistic?

>>128775007
Yeah, freedom is always nice.

https://youtu.be/tXwxAgA7tak

^I just try to come up with or collect the least difficult strategies to help people struggling. Nose bopping is the way to go if you get stopped up.
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>>128774678
>>128775049
>>128775147
I seriously can't tell if this is a case of samefagging or not
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Been getting back into BB finally, at last it has grabbed me by the balls like Dark Souls did. I'm trying to wrap up Eileen's questline at the moment, I believe I'm lvl 55 but I'm pretty competent, anyone have any tips for beating the Bloody Crow? I tried summoning for him but I guess you can't, I've just been running at him, and then helping people with Vicar Amelia just to stock up of blood vials for more runs. How many blood vials does he have? I've never seen him use more than one but he normally kills me quick enough that I never see a second one.
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>>128775304
This nigga right here gets it.
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>>128775336
It's the best for the only scenario that matters.
PvE is a joke, and you won't win a gank against players of equal skill no matter what.
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>>128775451
>of equal skill
The goal is to be more skilled than them.
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>>128775413
He only has one. If you have good ranged damage, aggro him, run to the stairs, then when he starts walking backwards shoot him. Stair method should also work if you just have melee.
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>>128775451
This. The only way to even remotely stand a chance against a ganksquad is to either have a Bloodletter and hope they stay next to each other like retards, or be Boomhammer Jap and invade in the Hamlet where they're just as likely to get memed on by the enemies there as they are you.
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Strength, Bloodtinge, or Arcane? Starting a fresh character for the DLC. Is there a viable build that allows me to use everything in the game? I remember seeing Lucy posting one once.
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>>128775761
Skill.
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>>128775653
I'm working on a bloodtinge build, currently have a chikage at +8 and Eve at +7, I tried poison knives but I thought they patched it so it doesn't do 99% of your health bar. guess I'll just have to be more patient. Thanks bruh
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>>128775602
Balance in any competitive game assumes that all players are of equal skill and extremely high skill level, so as to remove variables allowing for fluke victories. You're literally saying "is my opponent's stupidity viable?"

Assuming all players are of equal and high skill, you simply WILL NOT win against a gank squad.
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Sorry Rom anon, got hit by the meteor.

Gonna bring my other character if you don't get her this time.
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>>128775120
Fucking fuck
Ringing again
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>>128775336
Yeah that seems good. I would've got for a hit after his firey chomp chains, he seems to have a bit of a recovery after that
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>>128776008
I had her and she did a out of no where explosion
Didn't even telegraph it. Just boom
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>tfw can't decide which outfit to wear for fightclub
Which looks better? I'm leaning towards the Harrowed torso
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>>128775413
Lock on and continuously strafe at a safe distance. When he tries to do a sprinting attack on you, parry him. Just repeat that until he is dead.

>>128775682
You can also use enemies to your advantage. Gankers absolutely hate that.

>>128775761
40/20/30/20/20/40 let's you use everything in the game. It is perfectly viable for PvE and light PvP. Don't expect it to hold up well in FCs though.

>>128775950
I'm actually saying, "git gud, faggot." I am talking about in practice not your retarded head duels. And in Ganks you use the environment to your advantage. Enemies have ridiculous amounts of health and damage. If you use them well, then you can still win ganks, especially with high damage AoE weapons.

>>128776104
If you wait for his head to start to recoil after a bite, then he gets locked into the recovery and can't chain bites.
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>>128776179
coliflower anon here, I'm ringing too
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Post names
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>>128776209
right is way more effay desu. take the hood off you edgy bastard
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>>128775761
If you wanted to use EVERYTHING, you'd have to level yourself up really high, though I suppose it's technically possible. Just be aware that trying to use everything will mean that you'll be starved for levels all the way through your playthrough.

Probably the best approach to using the most variety possible would be a 50arc build with 20str and 20 skl, aiming for somewhere around 140 as your ending level. Any weapon that doesn't have innate elemental damage can be turned into an arcane-scaling pure elemental weapon by slotting an elemental gem, there's a guide in the OP for doing an arcane playthrough but be aware that a single playthrough only gives you enough chunks for 3 fully upgraded weapons, and you'll end up needing to farming chalices for elemental gems if you want to use all of them or more.

I wouldn't try to mix blt and arc, since they both are bullethogs and blt is one of those stats where you go 50 or not at all. You can mix str and blt, if you want, but be aware that the only weapons making use of that stat spread are the cannon, church cannon and bloodletter. For everything else you use, your points in one or the other will be wasted.
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>>128776209
Harrowed looks better. The raggedy look suits your choice of armbands and hood better than the refined look of the Maria stuff.
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>>128776008
Thank you man.

Time for Blb
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>>128776209
The clipping on that hood is triggering me. Try the left outfit with maria or gascoigne's cap
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>>128776252
>It is perfectly viable for PvE and light PvP
Is it retard friendly? I got kicked in the head by Father Gascoigne when I first started out and now my brain not work so good.
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>>128776209
try the khaki haori? It has the same raggedy look as Harrowed but doesn't have a bindle on the back
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>>128776491
My character is bald which I regret now so I dislike going hoodless with him.
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>>128774069
I'm outside the fog gate btw pls respond
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>>128776252
I meant the little bites he does in sequence regardless of your proximity, like around 0:58
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>>128775761
>trying to incite more attention to him
lmao

in any case, just make a 50/50 quality build then start leveling up other stats
it'll make it a lot easier to hit all softcaps that way as opposed to investing points in arc/BT early
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How are you supposed to deal with Ludwig's dumb instant kill charge?
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Anyone willing to help me with Ludwig? BL 55, ringing at the fog. Password is bbg
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>>128776640
Just wear a cap, Gehrman's woulds probably look great with that outfit.
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>>128776771
dodge
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>>128776873
he's too damn big
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>>128776771
You'll learn to dodge it reliably eventually. Try to stick to his sides and keeping a decent distance between you and him.
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>>128776925
dodge harder
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>>128776782
be there in a hop skip and a jump pham
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>>128776620
Yeah, just level Arc last.

>>128776739
Oh those. Yeah, I personally attack after that if I am using the Axe or Pick, but it is slightly riskier depending on your weapon.
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>>128776771
Have enough vit so it doesn't one shot you.
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>>128776771
same as the other charges, start walking to the side when you see the tell then dodge as he starts to move.
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>>128777126
but I have 50
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>>128776447
I have a collection.
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If I want to fight that Level 3 Hotdog boss in the very first Chalice Dungeon, which option do I choose? I picked Depth 2 and my first boss was some beast with flame hands.
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>tfw you barely kill a boss
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So is the saif now the go to weapon for PvP?
>that speed
>that dash
>that versatility
>that damage
I was considering a BLT build but it just doesn't seem worth it.
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>>128777039
wew sorry lad just kept hitting him when he charged like a dingus, didn't think it had a back stretch on the hitbox
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>>128777176
But he tracks you during the charge's wind up
I've moved right behind him as he was about to do the charge, and he just turned 180 degrees on the spot in an instant as he charged
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>>128777392
I love the adrenaline rush when I'm wailing on Rom hoping not to get hit by a spider before she dies.
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>>128777392
Nice kill, baldy
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>>128777485
Its fine familia, wanna try again?
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>>128777541
Thanks. I just loaded a bunch of clips onto my thumbdrive so I'm making some webms now.
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>>128777476
The bloodletter is better than the saif but it's much easier to get a saif build thrown together.

The great thing about the saif is that it's equally good on an arcane or qualityskill build, and the latter takes practically no farming to get going.
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>>128777608
ringin
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>>128777476
Saif is shitter weapon. You wanna be labeled like noskill shitter? No pride?
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>>128777494
Try reading the entire post. You start walking to the left, then when he actually starts his charge attack, you dodge to the left.

It works for all the charging attacks I have tried it against (Ludwig, Hotdog, Bribri).

>>128777749
said the scrub
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>>128777749
better than ludwigs meme blade :^)
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>>128777749
>noskill shitter
But I have 50skill :^)
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>>128777668
Good job senpai
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>>128777864
How am I supposed to actually dodge it though? The tell for it is long enough, but it comes out extremely quickly.
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Can somebody post a screenshot of the Constable set on a female character?
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>close to beating defiled Amy
>it jumps
>dodge
>jumps again
>dodge
>jumps again
>kills me
fuck this chalice
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Would anyone be willing to help me with Bloodletting Beast?

pw: bttf
lvl 98
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>>128778012
the power of impure korean steel
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>>128778168
Give me 2 minutes, mein neger
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This is the best grab attack I've seen an enemy do. I like how your character just grabs the cleaver handle and is like stop
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>>128778168
layer 4 lower pth or layer 2 ihyll?
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I just spent 3 million echoes on ritual blood and tomb mould.
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tfw cant decide between chikage build or str build for hueg weapons and pizza cutter
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>two offshape warm blood radials
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>128776724
Please just give me a (You)
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im gonna miss most of the FC again
anyone wanna ring right now so I can at least say I got some fights in this week?
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>>128778383
Blt is pretty boring, to be honest.
Strength gives you lots of variety. You have pve shit like the kirk, the gigsaw, hunter's axe, etc., and then you get some real fun shit later on like beast claws, wheel, beast cutter and so on.

My strength build is probably the most fun build I've made.
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Anyone wanna fight Rom with me? I didn't set a password, im just standing outside of the lunarium fog gate. Lvl 57
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>>128777338
I've gathered a few more, will be posting those in case they're up to snuff.

1/4
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>>128778089
Learn the tell so you can react as soon as possible.

When you see it start walking to the side. You don't want to be right up on him, and you don't really want to circle strafe either.

Then when you see the indication that he is about to move just dodge in the same direction you were walking. The walking should have gotten you enough off of his center axis that the dodge should let you clear his charge.

It's the same concept as you see in: >>128775336
>https://youtu.be/tXwxAgA7tak

for dodging the Hot Dog's charge.

>>128778146
>>it jumps
Stand still and start charging your R2.

>>128778361
Grab attacks are pretty bullshit and need to go, especially the one the Frenzy Dolls and BSB have.

>>128778694
You can go Str Blt if you want variety.
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Burial Blade or Rakuyo? I got two more rocks left but just enough chunk to +10 one more weapon after Church Pick +10.
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>>128778703
Then fuckng set one amd I'm coming.

Also, ETA to fight club?
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>>128778240
Thank you confederate bro
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>>128778361
Is it my imagination or mashing buttons does reduce damage? I've been hit by that grab and damage was nowhere near what that shows.
I learned it back in DaS and I keep doing it in Bb, and I think it does work.
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>>128778849
What if I don't want to use that piece of shit bowblade?
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>>128778932
Mashing r1 and r2 reduces grab attack damage in DaS and Bloodborne. Not sure about in DaS2 though.
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>>128778875
ok, pass is rom
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>>128778816
2/4

>>128778617
Sure, I'll be there right quick.
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>>128778875
just under 4 hours
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>>128778849
>Grab attacks need to go
Spoken like a true scrub.
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>>128778694
Is it possible to pump some arcane into a STR build? I wanna use some of the fun magic shit.
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>>128778383
I'd reccomend str
Go something like
50 vit
15 end
50str
20skl
base blt and arc
On either violent past or military vet.
This'll put you at 98, and you can raise whatever if you want to stop at 100, 110, 120 or so on.

The 20 points in skill will let you eke more damage out of weapons like the stake driver, beast claws and whatnot, and will also allow you to use the church pick with a heavy abyssal as a strength weapon.

Just be prepared to do a lot of gem farming for heavy abyssals and korean blunt adepts.
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>>128779042
R1 and L1*
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>>128779045
bell rung
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>>128779008
Then you use a good bow blade instead. You could also just put a chikage there instead.

>>128779125
>ad hominem fallacy
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>>128779059
Fucking hyped, first fight club ever. Am I going to be filmed?
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>>128778816
>>128779048
3/4
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>>128779256
By some players maybe. I only make webms of particularly good matches.
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>>128778168
still need help?
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>>128779163
isn't church pick more optimized if you go 25/50 Str/Skill with all thrusting gems?
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>>128779048
Alright, I'll be there in 5.
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>>128779343
So you post none
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>>128779218
holy shit bowblade OP.
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>>128778816
>>128779048
>>128779262
4/4, and my personal favorite.
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>>128779145
If you wanted to, you could probably get away with it. Just looking at the character planner you could get away with ~18 arc and use auger on an otherwise pure strength build.

Alternatively, you could do soemthing like 20str/50 arc and use weapons like the wheel, boomhammer and tonitrus.

If you wanted to level higher, you could definitely afford a healthy amount of both stats at 120. Just remember that the vast majority of strength weapons don't benefit at all from arcane and several of the fun offensive tools, like accursed brew, take more than 20 arc to use or to deal decent damage with.
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w2c blood rocks?
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>>128779256
sometimes, it's not a big deal as the fc compilations are just for the heck of it
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>>128779403
yes. that build does the most damage. a skill quality build is pretty useless though now unless you want these four weapons

saif
church pick
rifle spear
burial blade

those 4 weapons are pretty good tho
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>>128776771
he stomps hes feet and does a different screech before he charges
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>>128779470
Nah that's just my twink, all pimped out with gems and stuff
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>>128779460
Fine, heres one from last week
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>>128779643
>arcane visceral
Heh
You'd probably have been better of just doing a regular attack
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Holy shit the Isz chalices are so fucking cool
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>>128778849
>You don't want to be right up on him
So what am I supposed to do if I already am right up in his face?
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Fuck Ludwig's bossfight
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>>128779870
Move.
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>>128779831
Yeah but I was caught up in the heat of the moment.
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does strength have any pvp viable weapons?
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>>128780006
yes
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>tfw too dumb to figure out how do the dozens of different chalices and tombstones work
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Is anyone going to stream the FC?
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>>128780006
Not really?
I mean, virtually anything is 'viable' in that you can win some matches depending on the stupidity of your opponent, but it doesn't really have any particularly good ones, or ones that stand out as being competitive against the actually good weapons.
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anyone help me with shadows of yharnam? pw is bbg
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>>128780006
Axe and Whirly are both viable.

LHB is pretty good too.
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>>128780206
Coming.
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>>128780206
Just use the two NPCs and that fight becomes a complete joke.
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>>128778090
Does this work for you?
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>>128780206
Discovered your bell, but it disappeared.

Did you died?
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>>128780149
Which builds do have viable weapons then?
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>>128780149
>newlads leading other newlads astray
what ever happened to lurk more
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is beast cutter good for pve?
>>
Is reiterpallasch gud? It feels like all I can do with this thing is shoot and r1 spam

And what the fuck is up with the scaling?
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>>128780614
Lurk more was a stupid fucking idea.
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Is there any place besides the 5pw watchers I can use to farm adept triangles?

I know for radials I can farm unbead giants and end up with adept gems just slightly better than the 27% watcher temperings ones, but is there something similar for triangles?
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>>128780597
Str, Skl, and Blt. Blt or Skl being the best for PvP.

>>128780713
Yes, people love playing against backpedalling reiter + shield gun turtles.
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>>128780280
kinda weird. the message pops up now and then but no one is coming. is that you?
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What are the best runes for a 50ARC ayy build?
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Are these Mensis student heads?
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>>128780914
They're Patches' head, just with hair.
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>>128780905
Yup.

Maybe I ought to restart my console. Hold tight.
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>>128780849
>blt
>good for pvp
have a kek
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>>128777871
ludwig is not strong in pvp.
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>>128781018
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>>128780906
3 formless oedon.
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>>128780596
no. the message says small resonant bell detected, the sound plays but its not working apparently. restart the game?
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>>128779978
What if he does it after knocking me down, and I can't move?
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>>128781160
name a blt weapon better than rakuyo
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>>128780997
wait, is psn down?
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>>128781430
Doubt it, but I dunno.
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>>128781253
Stop getting knocked down.
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can somebody help me with paarl/loran darkbeast on layer 3 lower loran? BL lvl 99.

pass is bbg27
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>>128781594
So, what, I have to do the entire fight without getting hit once? How am I supposed to do that?
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>>128753508
So why the fuck is there only two great swords in this game? It's my only problem with it I want to use one without it being Ludwigs
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>>128781696
Ringing via srrc.
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>>128781578
ringing again
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>>128781696
I'll be there in a bit.
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>>128781696
Hold up senpai,I'm coming.
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>>128781754
get good.
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>>128781754
Most of his attacks don't have hard knockdowns, meaning you can just immediately roll to your feet.
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>>128780708
please?
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>>128781771
I know, right? Also why are there no viable shields? Or bows that don't scale with BT?
fucking shit game desu
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>>128782001
Nigger a great sword would be great for hunting beasts more then a shield of bow.
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Need help with giant the second coming now with chains edition, pass is vgbbg at the lamp.
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hi, i played pre-dlc. how many of the locals are still here?
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>>128782001
Exactly. We need a strenght GS, a skill GS and a blt GS too. It doens't matter if they all have the same moveset.
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Has someone made a blue-skinned character that fits with the Milkweed rune's color? I have no idea how to make the skin color fit
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>>128780708
In my experience, it isn't stellar.

But it's cool, and that's what counts.
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>>128781841
>>128781904
>>128781937
hurry it up lads, I got one.
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>>128782001
Bows that don't scale with bloodtinge would require an extra consumable just for that, it would be a bad implementation design-wise
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>>128781578
>>128781861

still at it?
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>>128782230
Someone posted these a while back.
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>>128782208
Most old ones still fight in the fc. Also if you ask them for help via psn, they'll come. I don't know how many of them are still in the threads though.
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>>128782126

ringing desu
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>People summoning Olek for Hot Dog

Fuck off with that, we don't need a meatbag that only serves to bloat the HP of this thing even more
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Thanks for the help lads.
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>>128782498
I am.

Have you done anything else online today? Where are you ringing and what's your level? Pw still right?
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>>128782208
I played pre-release but I never posted here (too much shitposting and /dsg/ invading). I also thought the game was great pre-dlc and now I think it's hands down the best souls game.

t. Biggest DeSbabby
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>>128782545
i see. well, i hope they're all well. is the wheel still a tear generator?
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>>128782639
Ban him again mods. Please.
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>>128782639
I'm going to let you in on a little secret, anon...

_______Go fuck yourself_______
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>>128782736
It was an honor Mr.President.
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>>128782758
Dash wheel? It's just an old thing imo. People tend to get buttblasted by the Rakuyo I think, because of lel spin2win and maymay katana.
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>>128782567
Thank you senpai just call me via PS4 if you need help.
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>>128782740

BL 48, pass is still bbg. i'm right behind the gate you unlock as a shortcut (where the snake dude is and the clockwise metamorphosis rune)
done some coop earlier today, no problems.
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>>128783038
i remember people screaming to ban wheel from fcs at the time.
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>>128783105
Ringing.
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>>128783062
I still have to open the gate to BLB, I'll call you if I need help
>>
how the fuck do you kill that cainhurst faggot in the cathedral
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>>128778617
anyone else wanna ring?
first anon left or had his internet crash I think
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>>128783105
Were you on the snakeman's side of the gate the whole time?
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>kirk vs saif
This is so unfair. You can't even hit saif shitter
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>>128783196
Yea but it's like Pallasch + shield, it's effective but gets boring quickly.Also
>tfw being here since august
>tfw I have no face cz mobile
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>>128783038
Why do people even care about the "spin to win"? It costs a fuckton of stamina and is no worse than R1 spam.
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Whats up with the eye spiders?
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>>128783421
slow weapons are no good for pvp, but are the best in pve
>>
I'm stuck at Blb on lower ph.
Trying to do the legs thing but that tracking

Pw bbgbl
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>>128783384
Edge of his aggro range is on the stairs if you want to cheese.
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>>128783416
no of course not. i was heading up the stairs a bit as i couldn't ring the bell right before the boss
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>>128783389
Sure. 6cb?
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Anyone wanna fight The One Reborn with me? Pass is bbg, I'm level 58
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>>128783587
Yeh
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>>128783493
Moreover, what's with those things sticking out of their pupils?
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>>128783421
>see saif user begin the very start of their R1, with them only just beginning the little duck, still 3 or 4 character widths away from you
>you instantly take damage
>by the time they finish the animation of the first R1, they've hit you 3 times.
The saif is just fucking bullshit. At least the rakuyo is easy to parry, but this piece of garbage is just the bane of netcode incarnate.
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>>128783614
Ringing. Let's pray that BB will connect us.
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>>128783546
Might help you out.

>>128783558
I see. Well, we seem to be having no luck. hope another anon or the NPCs will suffice.
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>>128783603
Coming
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>>128783603
Ringing.
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>>128783676
Saif is strong but it sounds like you're strayan or something.
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>>128783546
You the filthy vileblood?
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>>128777338
I didnt take a screenshot, but this one time i was pvping and i met a guy named "Nathanborne" and i thought well this guy is creative, but then i figured out it wasnt his character name, he named his psn account nathanborne. During our pvp match he just kept running away and then he fell off a cliff. it was great.
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>>128783846
Yes...
I got him down to 30 percent and he auto tracked me hard at the end
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cool sword
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>>128783862
>>128776447
oops wrong person
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>>128783710
alright thanks for your efforts.

Also, is anyone else up to help me with Shadows of Yharnam?

pass is bbg
bl48
>>
My PS4 says PSN is undergoing maintenance, but the PSN Status site says nothing of the sort and you people seem to be connecting well. Anyone else having this issue?
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>>128783953
Actually are you the dude who just summoned me and ran into the boss room wearing the crow set?

Take off the vileblood rune, yeah? I can't get summoned since I'm an executioner.
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>>128783771
>>128783815
very nice
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>>128784030
Coming in 1 sec
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>>128783969
Looks like the drake sword. Pthumerians confirmed for shitters.
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>>128784057
No no. That's not me

I'm wearing the knight set. Im vile blood yeah
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>>128783676
same thing just happened to me desu.

>mwf captcha is STOP
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>>128783614
You'ee the dude with wheel?
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>>128784192
No
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>>128784040
yup. right here. half an hour ago i restarted the console and wanted to go online mode. however it kicked me out over and over again and said something about network errors.

now im inside the game again, ringing the bell but no one is coming although it says that a small bell was detected
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Look for me in the fight club m80s. This character is named Clint
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>>128784370
You're the dude with the Saif?
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>>128784030
You there son?
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Could someone stream the FC? I can't participate but I really want to be mentally involved
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>>128784501
Yeh
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>>128774069
>>128776724
>>128778496
Never mind, I finally beat them myself th-thanks
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>>128784520
I streamed my fights last week and I ended up getting annoying as fuck fans
>>
>>128784580
Good game fampai.
>>
>>128784519
yup, still ringing
>>
Who thought defiled amygdala was a good idea?
>>
>>128784661
Been ringing at the fog with pass bbg for minutes. Nothing
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>>128784475
more like clunt lel
>>
>>128784669
Me
>>
>>128784643
Y-you too
>>
>>128784760
bl?
>>
>>128784669
I don't even get what everyones issue with it was. I didn't lock on and beat the boss second try.

Seriously someone explain this to me? Am I being messed with?
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>>128784795
I'll bash ur fookin ead in m8
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>>128784669
It's actually probably one of the best bosses to have in a defiled dungeon. The biggest problem with it is just how damn long the fight takes since you obviously don't have chalice gems yet, but otherwise it's a solid concept.

I'd rather face a 5 defiled amy ganksquad than have to do defiled hotdog again. There is literally nothing more tedious than that fucking dog.
>>
>>128784154
Took off my vb rune and ringing at lamp
>>
Does the resonant bell no longer give a "Searching for. . ." message?
>>
>>128784995
>>128784995
It seems to be caused by equipping a covenant rune. Pretty annoying bug.
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>trying muh 98BL character after glorious 135BL
>two shotted from Rakuyo phantom range
Now I understand point of 98BL. Do you really likes crazy damage?
>>
>>128784661
Try to move up the stairs if you're sitting too close to the fog.
>>
I really need some help with orphan of kos

level 101

ringing my bell, will set a password if need be
>>
>>128784760

can you hang on for a little longer? i'll drop my convenant rune. maybe thats causing it
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>>128785272
I'll wait. See this >>128785228
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>>128785234
Set a pass and I'll be there.
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>>128784669
People that don't suck. Seriously, just jump cheese her.
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>One day, she abandoned her beloved Rakuyo, casting it into a dark well, when she could stomach it no longer."

why did she even try to eat it?
>>
>>128784942
Sorry mate, this boss is way harder co-op since you can't really bait his delayed hits making him a lot more random.
>>
>>128766881
Staying up all night is from Ecstasy aka Darks.
half-vampire comes from the fact that she's literally related to Cainhurst nobility.

The Crowsteel one is super-lazy, it's just Coldsteel with some words changed.
>>
Man I wish the Kirkhammer was a bit better. I have a hard time sticking with it instead of just whipping out the cleaver.
Whoever decided Kirk and Ludwig's to have similar AR should be shot.
>>
>>128785208
Damage actually goes up in higher level metas. Scaling outpaces the defense bonus from leveling up, so the higher you go, the faster people die. You only feel durable at 135 because half of your fights are probably hosting against 100's and below, and you probably only feel fragile at 98 because you're invading ~140s.
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>>128785208
Haha I'm so mad at you anon
How dare you try to make fun of my beloved 98 meta haha you really worked me up just like you planned haha
>>
>>128784867
The Defiled Amy fight takes like 3 minutes.

>>128785208
Git gud. At 98 you should have over 1300 HP as a phantom.
>>
>>128785450
Thank you milo. I killed him with what he had left

Defiled time... yey
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>>128784669
bait her into stomping by hanging out by her back hands.
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>>128785546
Kirk needs at least 100 more base AR and at least be a bit faster
>>
>>128784835
>>128784867
It's just his third phase like I can flawless his first two phases but the third one does me in

And I can't even learn his move set in the third phase because I die so fast
>>
>>128785421
She didn't eat it, she stabbed it into her stomach and lost her grip on it by accident.
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>>128785234
Set a pass mang.
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>>128783969
>>128784113
it's the kris from DeS, must be lore how marty log's weapons are both pthurmarien
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>>128785714
In his 3rd phase he actually looses his 'close range' arms, so there's a blindspot underneath his torso for the remainder of the fight. The only attack he does that can keep you from standing under his head is the brain snot spray. Once you feel comfortable cheesing the jump, you can just stand there and keep nailing the head as it comes into reach.
>>
What chalice drops good 14 and up triangular gems?
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>>128785615
>You only feel durable at 135 because half of your fights are probably hosting against 100's and below, and you probably only feel fragile at 98 because you're invading ~140s.
Don't think so. I invade people in FC. So they're 120BL+. Damage is different.
>>
>>128785234
>>128785234
Pass is

lucha
>>
>>128786020
I don't know what to tell ya, bud. Damage potential goes up proportional to level, and outpaces natural defenses. If higher level people are doing less damage, they either fucked their builds or don't have good gems.
>>
>>128785772
I think most of the really high ranking church members got weapons from the dungeons since Ludwig got the Moonlight greatsword too.
>>
>>128786163
We can test some shit today in FC. I'm always was interested in numbers
>>
>>128785767
>>128785383
pass is lucha
>>
>>128779573
How bad is rifle spear with only base Blt?
>>
>>128785373

thanks a lot mate
cheers
>>
if I go for the yharnam sunrise ending, I can still go to NG+, right?
>>
>>128786348
Our fcs may not be the best place to test. Not many people in them have optimal gems and quite a few people end up competing with mensis or dlc droplets.
>>
>>128786471
Ringing.
>>
>>128786568
Absolutely but you'll be missing out on a really fun final boss and a pretty good optional boss.
>>
>>128786471
rang my bell in the fishing hut
>>
>>128786568
no the game auto deletes and you can't play on that character again

you can only make so many characters, so don't do Yharnam Sunrise after you get the trophy for it
>>
>>128786752
My first own "canon" ending was defeating gehrman, I'm in NG+ right now, I'll be going for the 3rd ending in NG++
thanks for explaining
>>
>>128786348
>in FCs
A controlled environment is better. I can help out.
Message SleepingBag767.
>>
You're still there arc saif man?
>>
>dicking around trying to PVP
>suddenly getting constantly disconnected

what is happening?
>>
>>128786920
Ah I see, as someone who took the easy way out on my first playthrough I really don't think it's worth it to just see that small cutscene.

Watching in youtube would be fine IMO but if you really want to see it that's your decision. Gehrman is just such a fun fight.
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>mfw I actually parried woth augur pf ebrietas.
>>
>>128786509
rifle spear is fun with a 50 skill / 25 str / 10 blt build. it's actually a very helpful PVE weapon in many regards because of how long the tricked R2 is. pvp it's probably terrible because the hitboxes on it are incredibly small and it's easy to sidestep the thrusts.
>>
>>128787157
2 of the 3 endings I've seen so far are just so good, if even the last, supposedly true ending is going to be that good, bloodborne is going to be a 10/10 for me
>>
How the fuck do you play this game without internet? Anytime my network craps itself, it won't let me access my savefile because it thinks Old Hunters isn't installed. How the hell do you solve this?
>>
>>128787094
No, I left. Something might be up with my net. I've seen 2 people disconnect on me today and they weren't the "oh shit I'm losing, better dip" disconnects either.
I've been trying to message either of you but you aren't showing up in recent players.
>>
still alone at orphan

lvl 101

pass is now

luchabbg

halp
>>
>tfw no skill/arcane weapon that can benefit from both stats
>tfw no skill scaling abyssals

why did from leave this game unfinished?
>>
>>128787434
I'm getting lots of drops too, I wonder if there's a network issue
>>
>>128787434
Ok. See you later you bolt saif shitting fag machine.
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>You can actually kill The One Reborn without it attacking a single time

Who designed this boss?
>>
>>128787413
That's because that console isn't set as your primary PS4, so without an internet connection you lose the rights to the DLC.

On the plus side, you and a friend can set each other's PS4 as your primary account and share DLC for free.
>>
>>128787516
going
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>>128787654
Its a shame because its music is damn good.
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>>128753508
There was a really foggy area in the leaked BB trailer, don't remember any fog area in the final game though I haven't played in a while.
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been ringing for an hour and nothing. Anyone else?
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anyone feel like killing Celestial Emissary/Ebrietas?

pass is bbg, im infront of the CE gate now
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>>128787516
still ringing?
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>>128787582
There might be. Apparently >>128787134 is having issues.
Also I might take some time off to make a closed root dungeon because these goddamn 700HP srrc invaders are such a fucking bother.

>>128787616
You'll find away around it. Lots of people shit on mine.
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>>128788157
Same here but with the small bell. Is bloodborne having some iddues again?
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>>128788295
forgot my level, 62
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>>128787654
I can't help but think that it was designed assuming the player at that stage would have no higher than +6 and still be using ~1% story gems.

If you deal no damage, it starts to feel a little more like a boss, though it's still primarily a sandbag with some mildly annoying 'move a little bit before you continue to mash R1' spells.

The difficulty of the main game in general completely shits the bed after Amelia. Every mandatory boss from that point onward is easy even with like a +3 weapon. I don't know who thought that the wet nurse was worthy of being an important boss when it's that much of a joke. I can understand gimmick bosses like Micolash being relatively easy and they're still decent bosses despite lacking difficulty, but there's absolutely no excuse for shit like the shadows of yharnam, TOR or the wet nurse being so fucking easy. Compared to the earlier bosses, they feel half-finished and their damage and HP feel like it was balanced for much earlier in the game.
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>>128787516
been ringing
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can anyone think up some interesting builds? i want something non conventional

builds i've done:
Arcane Whirligig
Skill Quality
BLT Chikage/Bowblade
Str Twink
120 Strength Arcane
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>>128788407
Those are both me, I'm just theorizing that other people are having problems besides me so maybe there's an actual issue.
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>>128787157
>Gehrman is just such a fun fight
I sure didn't have much fun against that asshole's bullshit tracking
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Okay guys need how is my current build?

vit&end20, str40, skl12, arc16

To be honest i don't know how to continue with it.
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>>128785772
Those are actual weapons, I think they're from india.
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>>128788694
He's the one boss in the game that doesn't punish you for dodging backwards.

The entire game was designed around you dodging in left/right and bosses will absolutely decimate you if you don't but gehrman pretty much gets trivialized by dodging back.
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>>128788829
Does it glow when orcs are near?
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>>128788447
>Shadows of Yharnam
>easy
And Ebrietas, Logarius, Gehrman and the DLC bosses still shit all over the early game in terms of damage
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Been away from BB since a few months after it came out, i just got back into it because of the expansion.

What's the PVP meta level? Somewhere around 100?
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>>128788658
Nah he's right because i'm been rining my bell since forever and i can't seem to be summon by other players
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>>128788901
Google "qualifier" anon. A lot of them were used in the post you're responding to.
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>try doing the defiled Amy tail strat
>try running in between his legs
>he does his thrashing attack and kills me

You guys lied to me. It's better than fighting him normally, but it's still risky as hell.
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>>128788769
it could be like a 98 build if you maybe quit there and pump a lot of vitality. it looks mainly like a STR focused build with 15 arcane to use old hunter's bone, which is fine, but the 16 arcane sort of fucks that up. a fine build otherwise. you could go 110 and get 50 vitality/50 str, i think?
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>>128788984
I've had a sinister bell ringing in hizz for a good 5 minutes with no interaction
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>>128789051

I was thinking maybe pumping a ton of lvls in arc because i like using those "magic spells"

I just been at 65 since cainhurst.
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>>128789043
It's hard but once you get past the legs it's a lot easier
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>>128789043
It's really not that risky. Just run out and around her if you can go through the legs reliably.
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>>128789291
No it doesn't so stop with the bullshit lying
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>>128789256
Strength / Arcane is useless besides potentially Wheel.

look at this before you do anything big. it's a build i'm doing.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/13268

just take 5 away from vitality to plan for your 20 endurance. 20 endurance is fine, don't worry.
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>>128789410
>L2 spam counter guide.png
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>>128789491
str arcane makes for strongest tricked HMS between 50/25 str/skl and 50/25 str/arc
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>>128789491
>>128789491

I'm using kirkhammer+9, uncanny saw cleaver+6 and ludwig+8.

I don't like using the wheel to be honest.
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How exactly do Chime Maidens spawn?

Let's say I summon someone for a bossfight but I get trampled and sent back to the lamp. Is the maiden still active?
Are they constrained to a single zone? If one is summoned in a certain section of a zone, will it follow me around (and by "follow" I mean spawning in different areas) as I progress through it, or remain where it initially spawned?
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When making a build, there's no reason to level your damage stat past 50 right? I want to make an arc build, and I'm just wondering how much arc I should put into it. Also what is the current level meta?
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>>128789883
Arcane tools scale until 70.

Speaking of which, I'm on BL96 with 50 vit and 60 arc. Where should I stop? I really want 70 arc.
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Does anyone know if this species of tree actually exists?
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>reading the guide
>clocktower patients in the research hall detect the player by sound
>if you are walking, and knock over books or bottles, they will immediately be alerted to your presence
That's pretty cool, I was wondering why that wasn't utilized more in the main game.
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>>128789883
arc is the only damage stat that benefits beyond 50 because of tool damage, the weapon damage stops at 50
80-98-120 are the common metas but anywhere in between is fine, going further is for the faggots
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>>128789662
not sure what you're saying, but my HMS on my build i posted is hitting hard as fuck. i only say wheel because HMS benefits from three stats, where as wheel is the only weapon in the game that is viable for STR/ARC (because boomhammer is shit and just needs blunt)

>>128789761
sounds like you oughta just stick with STR, maybe get 20 arcane for arcane parry. also the wheel is fucking amazing and you just need to learn how to spin
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>>128789880
A bell maiden spawns if you're above 30 and successfully summon a co-op partner. As long as a co-op partner is alive in your world, a bell maiden will spawn in any area you enter. If you kill the maiden, in one area it'll remain dead until you reload the area (eg. die or go to the dream and come back) but maidens will continue to spawn in other areas you enter.

The maiden despawns if you die or cross a fog wall and doesn't spawn again until you successfully summon again.

Exceptions are the sinister bell, which will always immediately spawn a bell maiden as long as the boss is alive in the zone you're ringing in, and the nightmare areas, which have non-respawning bell maidens active by default. Beating the boss or killing the bell maiden in those areas permanently removes it
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>>128790016
We discussed why we stop at 98 1000 times. Just do what you want.
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>>128790242
I'm saying that you're wrong and str/arc isn't useless
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Is the fightclub rip?
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>>128790245
All that information is exactly on point for what I wanted to know. Thanks anon.
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>>128790445
it starts in 2 hours dumbass
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Higher Arcane means that Rosmarinus will do better than the Flamesprayer, yeah?
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>>128790420
fine, i shouldn't have said useless. it's a very fun build i'm doing. it's highly specialized though and you only have two weapons to use, which is fine.
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>>128790242

I know the wheel is good, I'm just a scrub lord.
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>>128790618
At 55 it does better but not by much.
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>>128790245
>Exceptions are the sinister bell, which will always immediately spawn a bell maiden as long as the boss is alive in the zone you're ringing in, and the nightmare areas, which have non-respawning bell maidens active by default. Beating the boss or killing the bell maiden in those areas permanently removes it

Those ones respawn if you kill them, use a sinister bell to invade, and lose then ring it again. They don't seem to respawn if you win your invasion.
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Anyone want to help me with Maria?
Password is doll
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>>128788646
no thoughts on this?


>>128790651
it's okay. i don't really like the kirkhammer.
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>>128790506
not if they solve with this shitty connection network in time :^)
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>>128790110
Is this really true? Those screaming IV stand fuckers detect me no matter what. I try sneaky beaky by them and they just wail on me.
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>>128790810
Comin.
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>>128790618
arcane resists seem to be higher and more common than fire on armor, so it depends for pvp

pve beasts are very common and weak to fire so there's that to consider too

ros does win out in AR at 50 arc
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Does ARC stop improving discovery at 50?
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>>128790901
wut
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new thread where
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>Helping obvious newfriend through Central Yharnam
>He doesn't have any idea where to go
>Lead him to Eileen
>Sit down next to her
>He hangs back and stares
>Transforms his saw
>Sprints at her
>Starts attacking
>Watch as he's butchered for his ignorance
If only we had a text chat
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>>128790982
Yeah, it doesn't say anywhere if you can get by them undetected, so I guess we're fucked.
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>tfw all those fun as fuck looking weapons that are completely useless
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Anyone for Ebrietas? bitch pretty much shrugs off my slash weapons...
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>>128791608
Which ones, anon?
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>>128790085
nigga those are just dead trees with spanish moss on them
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>>128791608
none of them are

you're just retarded
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>>128791663
Online-less fag here, but she's weak as shit to Bolt. Get some bolt paper or good Bolt gems and go to town on her ass. I found bringing in even NPC help to lure her attention away and getting between her tails helps immensely.
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>>128791707
Amygdalan Arm for one
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>>128791707
none because he's a filthy heretic casual who's too retarded to use even the most commun and pratical weapon.
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>>128791953
Amy's arm is all about tricking your opponent into getting hit, and its untricked blunt attacks are pretty quick. It's not useless, at all really.
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>>128791953
>wide swing
>charged R2 does three attacks
>two types of damage

Every weapon is viable.
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>>128790987
Thank you Skinner!
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>>128791663
Set a pass.
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>>128791953
amy arm is a really good weapon

the 2-3 hit R2/charged R2 has insane reach
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