/gdg/ - Grim Dawn General

>>128572754
>Physique fags BTFO edition
1st for Physique is meta.

i got a lvl 49 soldier only what shall i pick after the new patch as sec class? pls keep it simple i'm not nativ speaker

>They are now significantly reduced on Normal/Veteran difficulty
Not like Legendaries dropped for me on Veteran anyway. Thanks RNGesus.

>tfw nothing about FPS drops fixed in the changelog
Welp saw that coming.

3rd for Shield users on suicide watch.

>>128573045
I'd go sword'n'board Commando.

>>128572462
A final fuck you from the enemy.

>killing 4 Harbingers at once

>>128573157
Oh and I missed this

>Fixed an issue with the Bane of Cairn quest not rewarding a Legendary item if the player was too low level to receive one
It doesn't 100% reward you with a Legendary if you're above L50 anyway. Fucking hell.

14th for 1000+ cunning/spirit is where things get fun

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>>128573334
>killing 4 harbingers at once
>having 95% Vitality resist
>taking no damage
>mfw

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I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY

Why do rifthounds always have that weird icon above their heads?

>>128573375
i finished the story monday with lvl 46
got mad after reading patchnotes

Been here since thread one.

I'm proud of you all.

>>128573562
They're being buffed for more damage by Howlers.

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>everyone said that a retaliation build doesn't work on ultimate
>mfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b39rc9kcdT0

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>>128573334
>drain the Harbingers' energy before killing them
>they can't cast their AoE
Solael Witchfire is 2 stronk.

Is there a default chance to knock enemies over?

I've been knocking guys over a lot recently and I can't find an item or skill that could be doing it

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>>128574007
>10 minutes
>chingchongdingdong gameversion

>>128574150
Which class? Some abilities like blade arc can cause knockdown, same for devotions like trample.

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>>128574007
>arcanist/soldier
You could auto-attack with no weapons and it'd still be viable

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>>128574007

>battlemage

>>128574273

Sorcerer, none of them look like they do, and none of my devotions do

>>128574007
What are those 30-50k damage ticks from? Retaliation?

>>128574558
Yep. between 9k to 48k lightning, 11-13k piercing, 3k poison and a low 1k physical.

Does the cadence transmute still only effect the actual cadence trigger, or is it every attack?

>>128575592
Only Cadence.

>>128575372
Damn. Don't make me level up a retaliation build anon, I already have too many characters. :^(

>>128572754
>Physique fags BTFO
Why do people keep saying this?
Is it some kind a new meme?

>>128576165
Yes. People got so annoyed with Physique being too good (>>128573440) that they're trying to perpetrate other stats as being better than it for some reason.

someone know a good area to farm fast i need some bars to get to lvl 50 i alrdy got alot of equip for lvl50
atm i farm twin falls insect-hive

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27762

aww
tis
em

>>128576640
get the fuck out

>>128576640
>aww
>tis
>em
You've certainly demonstrated as such.

>>128576165
>>128576382

It is, all the people who wasted all their points on cunning think they did wise because OA devotions got a nerf. They somehow didn't read that all enemies got their HP, OA and DA nerfed as well.

I bet they also think that DW tree from Nightblade was nerfed and worse than before. thanks to enemy nefs, it id just like it was before on b29

I guess spending 87 attribute points for 270 OA was worth the trade off of not being able to wear anything.

>implying people put points into cunning for OA alone
>implying that spirit is completely useless since it doesnt grant OA/DA

>>128576935
>I guess spending 87 attribute points for 270 OA was worth the trade off of not being able to wear anything.

i still can wear everything on my blademaster without a single point in physique though

>>128577198
>i still can wear everything on my blademaster without a single point in physique though
Unless you have Military Conditioning maxed and magically can pull 500 Physique out of gear/Devotion, this is objectively false.

Anyone have Praetorian Faceguard/Shoulderguards? I'm up to my eyeballs in lightning epics but I cannot find anything good for my Witchblade. I still have Shoulderguards of Perdition on and I'm level 53.

what trainer generates more mobs and is it worth it?

What's up with all the Physique/Physical Damage haters since B30 dropped? Not everyone feels like playing a "le ebin magic may may" wizard 24/7 you edgelords. Nothing wrong with liking plate armor, which is objectively the coolest looking armor in the game.

>>128577829

Just google it, and yes it make farming 2 eezy

>>128578123
>physique
>physical damage

those two arent even related in this game

>>128577198

Thanks to the soldier class, and using a shit load of gear that you found on other characters. Try doing that on completely self found or with a different class combination. It's basically gimping yourself for a mostly useless stat.
There was quite a few times that I wouldn't have survived on HC if I hadn't spent most of my point on physique.

>>128577717
I have a spare set. Post a game and I'll trade you.

>>128577829
Google Grim Dawn cheat engine. I joined a multiplayer game that had it turned to something like x10
It killed my PC and the game turned into a slideshow.

>>128573497
>toggled buff
>"275-344 aether damage"
what the fuck does mean? what does this damage apply to? every single damaging ability you have? does the value scale based on the speed of the attack or quantity of projectiles?
i hate how vague this shit is.

>clear the guys outside salazar's place 6 times
>nothing
>do it one more time
>5 keys drop

Thank you RNG

>>128578232
>not related
Various weapons with stats that focus on physical damage, believe it or not, have physique requirements.

>>128578481
You autoattacks and skills with %weapon damage.

>>128578271
>Thanks to the soldier class

no shit? what else am i supposed to use, occultist?

>using a shit load of gear that you found on other characters

i run it self-found since lvl 26, and never had any problems with dying or equipping better armor

just pick a random +60 physique from the ground, grab few +physique materia and make everything self-sustainable

>>128578481
flat damage on buffs applies to weapon attacks
flat damage on skills applies only to those skills

are you retarded to not understand this?

>>128578481
Probably that all spells/attacks deal additional aether damage. But I could be wrong. I barely understand Grim Dawn sometimes.

>>128578713
Forgot to quote
>what does this damage apply to?

>>128578713
so an ability like that would be much more effective on pblades than anything else, since it does a minor amount of %wpn dmg but a lot of projectiles, which will each receive that flat benefit?

>>128578583
You could have just went to that house near the Burrwitch Village, gotten the cultist orders and made the deal with Direni. You get the key, and it's a much better outcome for later in the game if you spare him.

>>128579036

How is it a better outcome?

>>128579132
he will be a killable mob easy farming for reputation for prison

>>128578939
no, the damage is applied to weapon, which then is affected by %weapon damage

>>128579132

he joins up with cronley and he turns into another boss you can fight for enemy reputation while doing cronley runs.

>>128579132
he's a boss in cronley's hideout.

>>128579232

welp, too bad he's dead

>>128579297
meh as long you not kill the dynamit trader you're fine

>>128578939
Yeah it will increase PB's damage, but I don't think if it's the most suited ability to make use of bonus flat damage.

I'd personally go for stuff like Cadence or Fire Strike.

>>128579389
>dynamite price skyrocketed
nah who cares
breaking down weapons is pointless anyway

>>128579545
>not romance his daughter to get a better price

So, help me out here. What's the best way to do shaman/soldier 2hand? Am I using savagery? Thunderous strike? Am I stuck with memeborn talisman? What am I using for aoe?

I figure blitz is good to engage and also does a shitton of damage to bosses, feral hunger makes you basically immortal, obviously, stack passive so/buffs, where do I go from there?

>>128579389
there's a dynamite trader? where's he at?

>>128579838
blitz is the best aoe you can get, its actually bugged and hits in 360

>>128579545
Used to be able to use them for treasure troves to make good profit. Now, dynamite will cost more than you'll probably get out of the chest.

Good job, crate.

>>128579893
you met him in act 2 he stabed someone, if you spare him he will show up in homestead as trader

>>128579893
Homestead, you get him if you chose not to the merchant as requested by the dying guy, near the Arkovian Foothiles.

There is also the secret merchant near the blood grove rift.

>>128580004
I assume it'll get unbugged at some point, though.

Am I really just gonna be autoattacking single targets at a time?

>>128580091
if you kill him instead, you get a shitty ring +to all attributes that gets outdated in few levels

>>128580012
Dynamite costs 3,700~, chest gives 6k-12k~.
On multiplayer, it can pass 20k, depending on the number of players.

>>128578271
game's up

gdg trade
pw: trade

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>>128580180
>>128580134
>>128580091
is there some hidden event if i not kill the bad witch?

>>128580548
there is some not so hidden faction armour and augments you dont want to lose

if you kill her, all you get is like 3 helmets and a bit of reputation

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>get one shotted by something
>i have no idea what killed me
>can't check damage log to see what resistance i need to boost because there's no such thing as a damage log

>>128580548
Are you referring to Ralia (think that's her name) or Anasteria?

>>128580756
the first one

>>128580751
You were standing in a puddle of pain and suffering and were too numb to feel it.

>>128580751
>being so bad you need a damage log
I mean I want one too and it's one of the first things I plan to mod in, but come on, gitgud.

>>128580827
Not to my knowledge. You just get her effigy I think.

>>128579838
Also, am I mistaken in thinking upheavel is shit because of its reliance on lolOA?

talking about mods, is anyone competent enough to commit himself to creation of a /gdg/ approved mod? sure there will be a lot of them on forums, but still

>>128581084
Not really. It's only good if you can get it into Ultimate ranks and have a lot of OA, neither of which are likely to happen.

>>128581179
>a /gdg/ approved mod
Depends what you're looking for.

>>128580918
nah there were no puddles, i was fighting bloodlord whatshisface outside the final boss. all i know is it wasn't his demon breath style ability because that only does 10% of my hp

>>128580964
i'm trying to figure out how much of each resistance i need in order to not get fucked in each act, pls no bully

>>128581248
So, basically, I'm using troll rage, stacking buffs and passives, and occasionally throwing out a blitz here and there? No savagery, no thunderous strike, no fun allowed?

>>128581403
doesnt he have a 360 spread attack? those tend to hit quite badly if he starts casting them while youre far away, and you blitz in or something.

Does anyone have the Empowered Faceguard and Empowered Chestguard of Perdition they'd be willing to trade?

I've found the empowered hand and shoulder pieces but still need those two. I've got a handful of legendaries and have also horded way too many epics ranging from level 40 - 75.

RIP Ulgrim you were a real nigga

>>128573497
Fug!!

Time to create a cold/aether dw Spellbreaker

>>128581580
i was standing in melee range, it might have just been a crazy melee attack crit. how do i tell how much damage my armor actually mitigates?

>>128581494
Savagery and Thunderous Strike are good. I don't see why they get a lot of hate. Only thing about Thunderous Strike is that you can't proc WPS skills like Feral Hunger or Zolhan's Technique, but the skill itself more than makes up for that.

>>128581403
Act 1 (Ultimate) 40 poison resist min, 33ish pierce resist min, 60+ cold resist min.
Act 2 (Ultimate) 60+ bleed resist min, ~40 pierce resist, physical resist not necessary but helps a lot, same with Aether resist.
Act 3 (Ultimate) ~50 Pierce Resist, 60+ elemental resists, 30+ chaos resist, 20 aether resist min
Act 4 (Ultimate) capped Elemental resist, 60+ chaos resist

At least in my opinion.

>>128581926
>>128581403

Addendum: Also Vitality resist at 60+ for Act 3, 4. More important in Act 4.

>>128581926
But feral hunger gives you that autoheal. Seems way too good to give up.

>>128582174
Its nonconsistent heal though. Whereas you could get permanent attack damage converted to health through gearing all the same.

>fiendish mantle absorbs 5000 damage every 40 seconds
>grants literally 0 fucking bonuses for normal builds

crate does it again

so how is ultimate difficulty now? my pet build with like 700% pet damage and 120% pet speed cleared fairly slowly before

>>128582271
True, but with feral hunger, you could have both. Seems like late game, that'd be really useful.

Is anyone else getting insane healing in blade barrier? It only gives +150 health regen but I'm watching it heal me to full in ~2000 bursts every time I use it.

>>128582658
It's basically the same. Enemy HP went down so things to drop more quickly, but the OA/DA rebalance did fuckall.

>doing second run
>run into quest givers for arkovian undercity

How the hell did I miss these guys last time

So is Demo in a better place? want to make a pyromancer.

>>128583016
Demo is slightly better, but mostly because of blastshield. Canister Bomb got shafted though.

Occultist still sucks dick.

>>128581926
Which will give more damage with stormcaller's pact maxed, primal strike or savagery line?

>>128583153
only need dat curse of frailty for more burning action

>>128581798
He isn't dead though. Also
>yo nigga I'm so alpha I can live alone in the swampz
>watchu doin cracka I wuz gunna kill that chaoz bitch myself
>gets caught in the void 10 seconds into the final fight
>I dindu nuffin pls help
What a faggot.

Where the fuck does Silk Swatch drop, I can't find any of this shit

>>128583615
you have to craft them

>>128583615
You have to craft it.

>>128583615
Craft it nigga

>>128583615
I think you might have to craft it.

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How fucked am I?

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>15% increase in damage for 2H ranged weapons in build 30
>they're still absolute garbage compared to DW pistols

>>128584419
>20% chaos resist
>0% vitality resist
ayy

>>128584419
How come you have so many yellows that far in the game.

>>128584595
It's because everything revolves around RNG procs. Dual wielding means more attacks and this, more procs. Increasing 2H base damage will never fix anything.

Anyone happen to have an Outlaws Retribution they're willing to part with?

>>128584419

>master of scavenged plating

top lel

My current Warder build at level 42

Anything I should change? im currently trying to finish up Olerons Rage.

>>128585258
looks pretty good desu

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>>128585258
forgot pic

>>128585437
I... wut?

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>>128584737
>>128584627
Not skilled enough to get good drops

Only one death, better than expected.

>>128585437
why would you take the forcewave spam transmuter if you're taking AA talents

why would you take the forcewave spam transmuter

>>128585889
>AA talents
what?

>>128585889
>why would you take the forcewave spam transmuter
It's actually pretty good now due to the buff.

But I agree, to reason to take it with Savagery.

>>128586148
default attack replacers like savagery, and weapon pool skills like markovian's advantage

>>128586226
its a dot thats ticking down as you autoattack with savagery. Its just another source of dps added on top of your autoattack.

Unless forcewave dot can be stacked on itself I dont see why you would want to replace your auto-attack with it because it does lousy initial damage.

>Doing SoT runs
>Haunt blueprint still won't drop
>Neither does vengeful wraith

Epic.

>>128586948
>vengeful wraith
desu it can be bought at faction merchants senpai.

>>128587096

Thanks, now all I need is Haunt blueprint

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I think I went a little too far with the physique

>run to crowley a bit underleveled
>its fucking martin
>try to flash freeze and run
>too late
>fps drops to 0.004
>after few seconds im dead while this fucker keeps tossing bombs

wew

>>128588125
>nothing in spirit
You fucked up.

>>128586948
>SoT run
>final chests give a total of 3 shitty greens and a "trust me bloody pox is good now bro" blue
is this normal?

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>>128588125
nah man youre good

>>128588721

yes it's normal
i don't even bother with the last 2 levels I just port out when I kill the boss on stage 3
it's bullshit really

>>128588778
Increase your spirit or you'll never be able to equip high level jewels.

How does trading work?

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>>128588778
>putting points into cunning
that's not how you get OA or DPS, anon

>>128588986
blademaster mastery trees (which im going to max anyway) give 250 spirit, that leaves like 50 spirit for rings, easily obtainable with items

>>128589134
most of my dps comes from falcon sweep though

5 projectiles each dealing 50% of weapon damage and 2000 bleeding damage

guess im fine with that

>knock a rifthound howler down
>he bugs out and stays down indefinitely
>still gets up from time to time to cast his heal then goes back to sleep
Working as intended™

>>128588260
>tfw the FPS drop fixes don't work for you

Which of the Arcanist's exclusive buffs should I pick for a PRM Druid? I'm also planning on using Wind Devil.

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OH MY FUCKING GOD THE CHANGE TO RECKLESS TEMPEST IS THE BEST THING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED FOR MY AETHER DAMAGE FIRE STRIKE DUAL PISTOLS MEME BUILD

NOW MAYBE I CAN EQUIP RESISTANCE GEAR INSTEAD OF % AETHER DAMAGE GEAR WITHOUT HITTING MONSTERS LIKE A DAMP SPONGE

>>128591874
build plox

>>128591874

*reckless power you fags know what i meant

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>>128591997

For devotions pick up Wraith, Widow (Arcane bomb can be put on Marauder's Salvo if you've got the belt) and Imp (aetherfire on FS). Get whatever the fuck else you want. Personally I picked up Lion, Crane and Hawk.

>no flashbang + transmuter

yep i'm an idort

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>>128588721
>>128588902
wew lads

>>128588721
>>128592959
>>128586948
When people say SoT run. Does it mean Executioner or just till level 2?

>>128593056
both, pretty much

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My resistances fucking suck, this is on veteran by the way, I'm act 2 in elite, man, this sucks, worst is my OA, I fucking hate the MISS MISS MISS against bosses and sometimes normal mobs in elite

>>128594592
Dumping everything into Spirit wasn't a very good idea

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>>128594592

eh dps display is fucked

>>128594787
Yes, idk why people use dps, only thing that matters is how hard a single hit is, based on how often you crit, cast speed and attack speed are very situational subjective stats

Whats a good test of a build using the premade blank level 75 character? I died to cronley's thugs in ultimate pretty quickly but I'm only using vendor shit and have negative resists.

Also how much offensive ability is enough?

>>128595030
>cast speed and attack speed are very situational subjective stats

Yes, especially if you're ranged and you have to kite, for some mobs (heroes) you can literally only get 1 hit per kite, for others you can get 5 or sometimes even more for slow mobs.

>deal 1000 dps
>see a weapon that says to increase my dps by 100
>deal 1300 dps
>old weapon says to decrease by 100 too

okay

>>128595117
Don't know I'm playing the game the right way and im lvl 57 so not that far yet. Started a new toon who is lvl 53, but he's having issues clearing content specifically bosses purely due to speed. I still clear fine without dying but my oa is Makin fights take 3x as long

>>128595326
The game doesn't clarify between conversions and such very well... it still needs work.

>>128595326
The sheet DPS isn't accurate at all.

>>128595602
but cant it just simulate equipping the weapon and displaying the resulting damage? why are there two different ways the game counts dps?

>>128595892
It's because it can't take into account conversions against your bonuses I believe. But again, dps is a bad Stat for this game. Very rarely are you standing still attacking as fast as possible anyways

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>tfw when they buffed whirlpool out the ass
>tfw my chain freeze shadow strike build is literally shitting on everything

oh my god thank you based crate

>have cap on internet, throttle us to 25kb/s when over
>stepdad gets an Xbone for Xmas and 6 physical games and 2 digital downloads
>attempts to download both games and uses up all the bandwidth
>didn't even finish downloading them
>PC this morning decided to shutdown mid game session and on startup
>system restore
>have to redownload 1gb worth of Grim dawn updates
>lost an unknown amount of progression on multiple characters
>still downloading the update after 10 fucking hours
>get fucking fed up because steam gets cut out and it starts downloading a Dota 2 Workshop update that for some fucking reason gets bigger and bigger each time it finishes
like it was 45mb and now its up to 135mb that took 2 hours to get to that point.

>set steam to offline mode so i can play Grim Dawn on previous patches because im fucking tired of steams fuckery and my throttled internet
>GD fucking crashes at the Crate logo everytime
>so many things going on in my life at this time that im seriously contemplating suicide, this shit is just icing on the cake

>>128600336
it gets better anon

>>128600490
4ch

Is it just me or is tenacity of the boar shit? It seems like it doesn't scale well at all.

4chan blessed me with captcha working for once but i fucked up by hitting keys and it posted for some fucking reason. anyways.

i truly hope it does anon, because im at the edge.

i haven't even gotten to see how much progression i lost on my characters, i swear if its like 2 patches worth of progression im done with this game, not their fault it happened but its just too much of my time wasted.

>>128600336
Should get better Internet. There has to be a better provider. Or get a job and move out. I bought my own house working at domino's delivery pizza

Is there any reason to repair the Wightmire Bridge Repair Site instead of doing the tunnels?

>>128602158
Used to be if you didn't have devotion shrine, which is that it's faster. But on normal there is a shrine so you want to do them for that shrine. In elite and utlimate, skip it

>>128602102
no jobs where i live, my step brother had a job fixing the roofs of houses that got hit by a hailstorm last year but he got fucked over and didnt get paid.

we live in a rural area and our only ISP is Shaw satelite because the nearest tower is too far away.

So what are the new meta builds now? Has anything even significantly changed since the OA/DA changes were a zero sum gain?

>>128602986
>stuck in a dead ass town with no possibility for a job or any kind of progress inside that dead ass town
iktf
join the military or go to college, I went to college. If you can't, just bide your time

Anyone have Haunt blueprint in softcore?
Might be able to trade something don't know what you need or what I have to trade

>>128600582
100% Health regen scales very well anon.

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being a lazy motherfucker, which is the best auto attack replacer skill to build around and which devotions do I attach to it?

dual wield melee; fire-strike saboteur

sword and board; blade arc battlemage

2 hand; savagery warder

2 hand; savagery druid

also what's the go to component for putting on weapons or all they all the same and only matter what +% damage you have on your gear?

I want to totally fucking trash this game but don't want to go pets or PB

Scythe of Tenebris


LOOKING FOR

Scythe of Tenebris

to trade

anyone got one??? I don't have much to trade but i'm willing to scrap together all my shit for it!!@!

>>128608189
What do you got?

>>128580163
I have a two handed Shaman and I'm running a similar auto attack + Feral Strike to stay alive.
I've found Wendingo Totem to be an effective heal skill. I believe the patch notes mentioned a buff this build too. It's got a bit of a small AoE though, not much room to maneuver in melee.
If you want damage, Wind Devils. You can use them to lower resists and zap mutherfuckers with lightning bolts.

>>128608189
Nevermind I find some anon who plays all day willing to trade.

FUck you v/g/g/ :D:DD:DD:

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I'm confused. So when a weapon says %Damage like this says % Poison Damage, does that mean each attack does 42% poison damage or does it mean that the poison damage I do is increase by 42%?

Also does shit like witchfire stack with the attack abilities in the Soldier tree like candescence?

>>128611491
AFAIK
flat damage impacts weapon damage
so anything that isn't "% of weapon damage" is kill
percentage bonuses impact anything that is impacted by player damage bonuses like DEE

>>128611491
poison damage you deal is % bonus. This is in spells or auto attacks.

IE, if you do 1-5 poison damage on attack, and your spell does 1-10, you're increasing both by 42%.

Flat value bonuses apply to autos only, but as a result, also apply to spells that do % weapon damage. IE, if your soleals adds 10 chaos damage to your attack, you do 10 more chaos per auto, and if your spell does 25% weapon damage, 2.5 will be chaos damage.

Hope it helps

>>128611965
>>128612109
Thanks, that helps.

I dont know what the fuck I'm doing, I've just been using what I want but I can see now how some skills are shit compared to others.

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can someone post all the changed skills?
GDforum users are being niggers and devs decided that telling us that the skills have been changed without mentioning the numbers is somehow alright

>>128614150
I don't have time to figure that shit out nigger open the fucking game and look

>>128614213
>open the fucking game
I fucking wish
my vidya card is dead
which is why I'm asking you fags in the first place

>>128614510
>128614510
Then who cares by the time we tell you build 31 is out and nukes ur build lol

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>>128614717

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>>128614889

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>>128614983

>>128583153
Occultist got a buff though
>oa bonus on solael
>possessioj now toggle

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I wish some drawfags played GD
the potential is enormous

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>>128616601
draw my death

I'VE HAD ENOUGH

Where the FUCK do I farm Dread Skulls and Bristly Furs

(and manticore eyes)

>>128618261
manticore eyes in that place to the left of tyrants hold, shit load of manticores. NOte they can't drop if you're 10 levels higher than the mob.

bristley firs just from beasts. Dread skulls idk nigga

>>128618343
Hmm, they I'm lvl 56, they're 48-50. Ran 5 times there, no eyes

Can the devs please atleast fix the LE SO RANDUMB drops in this game.

>>128618716
>current year
>not editing your resources
I bet you don't even save your HC characters, pleb

>>128618716
Do you even arpg

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Don't die on me /gdg/ !

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>>128616601
potential for what?

i don't have any OCs for you to pls no stealarino yet

i woke up to save the thread

Had to leave right as B30 patch notes got released. What are /gdg/'s thoughts on it so far?

>>128584595
And DW pistols drop off hard in Ultimate :^)

>>128584810
Not for guns/crossbows. Poor in Ultimate.

It's that time again, I'm looking to trade for:

Titan Pauldrons
Markovian's Vanguard
Chausses of Barbaros
Mask of the Harbinger and Entropic Coil if they have good OA rolls


I've got a bunch of 65+ legendaries and almost all the mythical relic patterns, let me know what you're looking for.

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>>128628686
Good overall but
>OA/DA and Ultimate still a mess
>Soldier BTFO
>Lethal Gambit is still shit
>Bloody Pox's spread is bugged/overnerfed
>shields BTFO
A lot of stuff got buffed and fixed, but the issues listed above are enough to rustle my jimmies.

>>128629954
>shields BTFO
Why? Nearly no one uses them. 99% of melee is DW and 2H.

>>128629954
soldier literally didnt get nerfed lol
a small loss in OA but overall he got buffs

>>128630002
>Nearly no one uses them
You could 'easily' reach 100% block and -100% block recovery time before the patch.

>"select all the pictures showing coffee"
>select one showing tomato soup
>"Correct answer :^)"

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>mfw the transition from Normal to Elite now

It's so buttery and smooth.

Fixed MP when?

>>128630253
>lost HP
>lost block chance
>less enemy damage reduced on Warcry
>enemy damage redution removed from Blitz
>The Chaos damage conversion in the Cadence transmuter was removed, the Elemental damage was brought down

The only reason it doesn't feel that nerfed is because it's still godly compared to everything else.

>>128631493
>The Chaos damage conversion in the Cadence transmuter was removed, the Elemental damage was brought down

>there are people that ever used the cadence transmuter
lmao desu

>>128629954
It's clearly bugged.

>>128631823
>I didn't use it

k

>playing with a friend
>he's a soldier/demo
>keeps whining about how easy it is for me since I'm ranged and how hard it is in melee for him
>he gets trashed by log since he doesn't want to get resist gear and still goes 2H wih damage only gear
>gets trashed in ultimate while I breeze through with my dw pistol sorc maxed on resists
>he's still complaining that it's super easy for me in comparison
>nerf hits
>literally goes full retard about how it is so unfair to nerf the worst class and how is shitty character is even shittier now

Remember to choose your friends with care, and that you need someone just as autismal as you to play this game until the end

>>128632693
And you don't have the balls to call him out on his shit and encourage him to improve. Instead, you whine about it on an anonymous Chinese meme board.

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>Conjurer loses Possession because you can't use it with Primal Bond anymore
G-Great patch, Crate.

>>128632693
to be fair it took me a while to realize resistance actually matters a lot. usually in these games its damage all the way. though he should have realized before ultimate.

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>>128631823
>he didn't play a Cadence witchblade
Look at this pleb.

>>128633408
> usually in these games its damage all the way

in what games lol. In all the Diablo games and Titan's Quest resistances were always very important. What babby shit have you been playing where resistances don't matter?

>>128632693
It sucks when you have to stack defensive gear when there are so many cool offensive legos waiting to be used. :^(

>>128633562
Diablo 3 probably. Weapon damage all the way.

>>128633562
many other games that arent the two you mentioned

>>128633716
D3 had resists too. Resist all, weapon damage, crit chance and crit damage are literally everything you need though.

>>128572754
So I'm rolling Demo/Occ, this is my first time playing. I plan on summoning some helldogs while I pop pop niggas with flame shots. Its pretty effective so far, but I'm lacking on fun potential here.

What should I do for the fun factor?

>>128633845
Forget about pets if you want to have fun. Plus it's hard to make hybrids work, specially for a first character.

I suggest you go the boom-boom way and and spec into Grenado/Cannister Bomb/Mortar Trap.
Blowing mobs up to space is kek-worthy.

Have they done something to Spirit in B30? I've somehow lost ~50 spirit. Can't equip my Offhand anymore.

>>128633845
>>128634189
Forgot to say : use Curse of Frailty to debuff mobs.

>>128633765
Name them? Soldak ARPGs have resists and they are very important there.

>>128633716
Wat. Diablo 3 had resists and they were super important.

>>128634287
>>128634189
Thanks for the advice, I'll give that a go. How do you make an Occult build fun? I like the flavor a lot, I was hoping that pets would get more interesting down the road. Any unconventional builds for them?

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>>128633430
>cadence witchblade
~58k crits with shitty onehander and shit gear

>>128634220
They probably added +50 more spirit as a req on the item.
>physfags getting BTFO

>>128634636
Oh, damn shame they don't let us respec attribute points. What a dick move. I can't see the item's requirements either.

>>128633430
i did to the point where i was making a normal soldier using like one skill from occultist

wasted character

Making a nightblade focused on pierce and bleeds, what is a good secondary for that. Was just gonna take soldier. Also blademaster is an appropriate title.

>>128634403
Occultist is a pretty boring mastery by itself, but some class combos are somewhat entertaining.

Dreeg's Evil Eye, transmuted Albrecht's Aether Ray ( from the Arcanist ) and any Soldier/Nightblade/Demo using Solael's Witchfire with their autoattacks are fine I think.

>>128634801
Thanks brother, I'll keep that tucked in the pocket for when I want to make a melee. I'm off to shoot fire and throw grenades.

>enter cronleys lair on elite
>every mob pack has like 3 elites

neat

also

>game crashes on cronley fight

not neat

>>128634732
so, shield babby?

>>128636712
nah, i really wanted to push the chaos damage on 2h but it was pretty shit
i kept seeing weapons without conversion that dealt a lot more dps and chaos gets shit on in act 4

>>128637340
mamamamamamamanticore

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>Discord's chaos damage removed
>Possession no longer boosts physical damage
>You can't use Oleron's Rage alongside with Possession anymore

>>128637340
The Manticore constellation and the Oblivion relic are your friends, friend.

>>128638060
Why would you use Oleron's Rage with Possession anymore tho? It doesn't buff Attack Speed.

>>128638294
both are exlusive now

>>128638341
Uhh. yes? That doesn't answer my question, though.

>>128638416
OA? trauma? gottagofast?

So which exclusive for arcanist is better for Panetti's replicating missile?

>>128638532
Trauma is worthless if you are going for a Chaos build. Gottagofast is nice, but it's more of a luxury. The OA is the only thing you'd get out of Oleron's Rage, but even that isn't a necessity anymore because of the nerfed DA values. Simply put I'm a happy camper that I don't need to go balls deep into two masteries now to make a Witchblade work.

>>128638601
How is this even a question? Reckless Power for the Cast Speed, man.

>>128633716
>>128634326
>had

yeah diablo 3 resist thing is fucked
first, there is resist all, you don't need to think about anything else
second, why they calculate them not in percents is mystery.. like you have 2173 poison resist.. what is the meaning of this?
not to mention they removed all the elemental stuff from damage, like cold didn't slow you, etc. which is shit.
game is piss easy though, you can turn your brains off. which is good in some cases.

>>128638954
>first, there is resist all, you don't need to think about anything else

This is a failure of the itemization more than the system itself.

>>128639162
welp, in d2 sometimes there was all res affix, but it was quite rare. Im not saying, that it's bad in general, but in d3 whole thing is reversed, sometimes item have +resist from one element, and automatically that item is shit.

>>128634326
Not that anon but I don't remember either torchlight having resists. Not like torchlight is exactly the hardest or most in depth ARPG though.

>spec out of primal strike into savagery
>literally tripple my sheet dps
>can pull points out of IEE now that I'm not starving for mana and put it into wendigo to facetank everything
>bosses actually die pretty quickly
>decent enough aoe trashclear from reckless temptest devotion and critquakes
Can't believe I ever bothered with primal strike

>>128638721
>The OA is the only thing you'd get out of Oleron's Rage, but even that isn't a necessity anymore because of the nerfed DA values

this is so wrong it hurts

>find dread skulls in cave
>play through it 10 more time
>zero more

epik

Are my friends dumb for not picking a 2nd class by level 20? I keep telling them it offers nothing but benefits to go ahead and pick something at least for masteries but they're non-committal at best.

I think one asked "can you even max out all the skills in one class by the cap" when I first asked him what he was going to pick

>>128640621
No they aren't. My pistol mage didnt go into her other class till 45ish

>>128640176
Stop being a fotm babby and the pain may go away. Don't need Oleron's Rage or Inner Focus anymore to hit or crit shit.

>>128640621
I don't touch a 2nd mastery until my mid 40's to early 50's. Otherwise you'll be spreading yourself thin. It may seem more appealing to have access to more skills, but it's better to just focus on one mastery at a time,

>>128640621
if its soldier/nightblade/arcanist they can never pick a second one and be fine

>pick all images with skyscrapers
>wtc
oh

>>128641305
t. shitter who has 70% chance to hit bosses in ult

So, um, that release date.. february 23 just cause it's last possible date or is there official word? I can\t find it nowhere.

>>128634189
Just played around for a few hours, pure Demo is working great with flame shot, grenado and canister so far along with the AoE fuck off explosion for getting hit.

Thanks for the help bruv

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>15+ level 20-ish characters
>haven't found The Final March a single time
I-Is this sorcery?

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hold down left mouse button to win

>>128643834
I've read it on another website. Probably on RPS.

>>128641617

>Wasting 30+ points to get oleron and turn that 70% into at best 75%

Possession is far better as an exclusive than Oleron now for Witchblade anyway, even as it was before it was far more useful because of the massive damage mitigation on it. I can't see why anyone would jump 18 points in the soldier tree then dump 12 into Oleron for that.

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>>128643894
You're welcome.
>pure Demo
At some point you'll need to pick a secondary mastery if you don't want to be gimped late game. It's okay in normal though.

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>>128644135
>maxing Nidalla's Hidden Hand
>as a Blademaster

>>128644168
yeah, and i find it on other sites too, but can't find legit source, like one of the devs quote or something and for exampla in wikipedia date set to tbd.

>inb4 wikipedia

>>128643894
>>128644352
I am playing pure demo as well. Is there a need for AOE when firestrike with maxed passives DW doubles as fuck you AOE

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guys, I need to clear some shit up
first of all, does burn/frostbite/electrocution benefit from +% elemental damage?
what's the order of conversion for physical to elemental and elemental to chaos for blood orb of ch'thon?
if internal trauma is physical and elemental DoT is elemental (duh), is IT affected by conversion of physical damage into some other damage type?
and lastly, what happens if you convert more than 100% of physical damage? like when you have a piercing weapon with high innate conversion and use some skills/materia to boost the total over 100%

>>128644967
>does burn/frostbite/electrocution benefit from +% elemental damage?
no
>if internal trauma is physical and elemental DoT is elemental (duh), is IT affected by conversion of physical damage into some other damage type?
no
>what happens if you convert more than 100% of physical damage?
you cant

>>128645105
why would they make it impossible to scale dots? You telling me that if I want to deal and DoT, I have to scale that spells main dmg type separately its DoT type?

They went full retard with these damage types

>>128639937
>>128639850
>>128639754
>>128640478
>>128640139
will he do release stream?

>>128645276
No one cares about that casual shitter

>>128645105
>Devil's Mark
>40% Piercing
>30% Physical Damage converted to Chaos Damage
>Symbol of Solael
>10% Physical Damage converted to Chaos Damage
>Pestilence of Dreeg
>10% Physical Damage converted to Acid Damage
>proc abominable might for 50% more chaos conversion
I don't see why can't someone reach 140% or more
care to elaborate what the order in this case is?

>>128645220

in TQ poison was the only DoT worth shit, because it didnt have a flat counterpart

elemental DoTs and bleeding were more of a flavor thing put in hundreds on certain weapons, but now you get a tiny bit but on everything, so dont even bother with them unless you go balls deep

im making a frostburn character right now and it starts to take off with 300 DoT on level 24 but i dont see it go that well

>>128644858
Yes because splosions.

>>128645615
So why even put them in? It adds needless complexity to the game and fucks with gearing because instead of getting something useful now I have lol frostburn on this piece of shit gear..

Why wouldn't they just add that damage into the spell as flat dmg if they werent going to do anything worthwhile with the DoTs

>>128645589
if you have 40%, 30%, 10%, 10% and 50% it would convert them to ~28%, ~22%, ~7% ~7% and ~36%

>>128645723
you dont have to use them, and most gear has both +%flat and +%DoT damage

finding a flat DoT damage source, now that can be hard

>>128645220
DoTs will receive an overhaul after the game's release.

>>128645615
Poison was shit in TQ and so was most of the Rogue mastery.

>>128645723
It would be better they just did it so damage types have a chance to impart a percentage of that damage as a DoT. Have generic +%DoT just like +%retaliation and +DoT chance gear.

Unfortunately GD is rather obtuse when it comes to numbers shit. Hell their own character sheet in game can't even factor everything in to properly calculate damage.

>>128644352
What would you recommend as an off?

>>128646521
It depends on which skills and types of damage you're focusing on.

Caster Demo is really energy hungry so I'd consider going for fire damage and Arcanist as a secondary mastery.

You can also pick Soldier for extra tankiness and physical damage.

Or even Occultist for CoF and the Raven's heal and buffs.

There are a lot of possibilties.

Primal strike gun mage is the best gun mage.

>>128647124
>not amarasta snoiper with sky shards for clearing
you fucked up

bamp

anon killed someone on hardcore pvp?

Is there ever any reason to use crossbows?
I've been finding a million of them lately so i feel as if the game is trying to tell me something.

>>128649225
no but I've killed a reddit squad by p(r)oxy with fever mod
>cast it on a hero pack
>they get destroyed before popping bubbles/OG
>mad as fuck
>reload their HC saves and make another room, with password this time
it would be kekworthy if they had any shame but they don't

>>128649284
look for the harbinger set
2h ranged is underrated as fuck and crate have just begun tweaking it with the shaman/niggablade changes

>>128649284
There used to be no reason, but now you can use the Shammy chain lightning with 2h ranged weapons as well as 2h melee, so they are working on making them more appealing.

>>128649419
>>128649552
Sounds promising, guess i'll give it a look.

>>128649284
>I've been finding a million of them lately

Good for you, i doing ranged 2h sham and want crossbow instead of a gun badly, but i swear they're like rarest type of items, not mention it's almost impossible to get upgrade.
But i saw some sweet crossbow @ rovers quartermaster.

>>128649419
the problem with 2h ranged is still crowd control though

it may be good for kiting bosses but im not taking that shit into a group of 20 trash mobs buffed by some heroes

>>128649703
>and want crossbow instead of a gun badly, but i swear they're like rarest type of items

I'll swap you your luck for mine. I probably get more crossbows and crossbow repeats than any other type of weapon. It seems like Crate really, really wants me to try them. They can fuck right off tho. I'd rather a bow than a crossbow.

>>128649938
Doesn't make sense, brah, otherwise the same problem would apply to casters as well, and it doesn't. To be honest there isn't a distinction of melee / ranged / caster in Grim Dawn. Characters who use guns are literally wizards, they just use their guns to shoot magic instead of wands.

tl;dr who needs CC when you can just chain lightning everything to death from a distance before they even get to you.

How long does it normally take to farm shit? I just spent 12 hours farming a component and only have 3/4ths

Oh boy I can't wait for legendary farming, 100 hours for one piece?

>>128650172
well there's an increased chance for legos to drop on ultimate. Of course RNG can still fuck you over and there is a chance to get repeats. I can't understand why Crate made the best end game items sets, though. That will completely fuck your brain since trading in this game is so shitty.

So, has anyone tried the buffed BWC yet?

>Homestead farmers used to get together every 7 years to kill the new dermapteran queen
These farmers must me hardcore fuckers, I'm surprised Aetherial invasion succeeded at all considering how fucked up the world already was before them.

>>128650971
it will always be shit as long as burn doesn't stack

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Man, I have it with shields.

>he uses set items
>he uses faction items

how does it feel being a fucking casual?

>he

>>128651807
>lv fucking 68 shield
>only 100 damage
>not usable without moderate CD skills
why can't they make it scale off of shield block value? this is pretty ridiculous

>>128651907
>using a set bonus makes the game less shit
>no, you must only use greens and yellow without picking soldier or arcanist or else you are a casul who doesn't abide by my self-imposed rules
ok bud

>>128651907
I bet you play with your hands you deviant casual fuck.

>>128651807
>trying to push the pistol+shield meme
thx cret

>>128651907
Not everyone likes save scumming materials or using cheat engine for double rares, senpai.

>>128652236
desu i use only one hand most of the time

i only have 2 additional buttons on it and right main one isnt working anyway but its enough for gd

>>128652259
Nice implications there.

>>128651807
Question: Is there something wrong with using Shields on Soldier?
I feel like /gdg/ is really critical of it, and I'm not sure if they're being honest and that Shields are bad or if they're being facetious and saying Shields are so good, it's babby mode.

>>128652690
>>Question: Is there something wrong with using Shields on Soldier?
No clue, I just have it with lego shield drops left and right.
Imo, shield/pistol is garbage and everything else is just a damage drop, too, if you want to play tank, you can do that in MP though

>>128652690
There's a big lack of good shield skills in this game, and untransmuted Forcewave is meh.

Can't we just have the Defense mastery back? :^(

>>128652690
soldier is literally the only viable shield class and people already hate soldiers for being absolutely broken with their DPS x tankiness ratio
I only go for OG and shield mastery to not feel dirty while playing shieldbros
anything more is plain abuse

How long does it usually take for Grimcalc to update?

>>128653713
it is usually updated when the changes are no longer relevant

>>128653713
It depends on Stormcaller's schedule. Tomorrow is Saturday so I'm expecting an update very soon.

>>128650172
what fucking component are you looking for that you spent TWELVE hours doing it?

christ I have extras of everything I couldve just given you a piece

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>2016
>build fucking 30
>still no necromancer class with low duration summons, barrier pseudoheals, soul harvesting and costly spells with long cast times

>>128656143
And,
>no skills that are risk:reward such as reserving your life for stronger allies
Sadly a Necro with lots of summons wouldn't work very well. Game struggles to handle more than 3 pets at a time.

>>128656230
>make an RP shieldbro summoner with that 80% vit resist spoopy shield
>get zombie active
>eventually have 3 zombies up at a time
>game can't handle more than 3 pets targeting the same enemy so my hellhound is just walking around
it hurts how bad GD can be

Summoning in general is not satisfying. I had a lot more fun with it in Titan Quest.

>>128657190
remember when summons were raid tier before the shaman patch happened?
I literally didn't have to resummon my hound before ilgorr or some bitch ass AoE heroes and it oneshot all the yellow mobs as well

>they actually updated the map so you see the shrines you see and restored

God bless

took you fucking long enough

>>128656479
>3 zombies up
Wat

How can I get zombies? Or do you mean the spirits from Necromancer's Deathgrips? Or the skeletons you can get from devotion?

I'm trying to make a necro work. If it's possible to get zombies, I want them

What should i use as a main attack to assign a devotion to if im running pure cold spellbreaker?

I have a mistborn talisman but it will get outdated rather quickly.

>>128658648
revenant active
the slow from them is pretty baller even if they don't deal that much damage by themselves
is there a video of deathgrips spirits in action?

>found 4 manticore eyes in one jagged waste run

Holy fuck

>>128658697
Do you have Dual Blades? If so, bind stuff to Belgothian Shears.

Do those insect eggs have a high rate of rare component drops? I've gotten like, 3 devil touched completes

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>>128659029
Witchcraft!

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>>128658902
B-but I want a zombie summon

Spirits look just like the ghosts. They're not too shabby.

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>>128659889
>another lazy recolor by Crate
why even bother
6 dogs, 2-3 manticores, skellingtons and spectres identical to mobs
wake me up

>>128659029
They upped the drop rate