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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://store.steampowered.com/news/19848/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/

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>tfw I have been playing slardar since b4 it was cool
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What hero is worst choice for core position?
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IMPORTANT

http://strawpoll.me/6412818/
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http://strawpoll.me/6412818/

IMPORTANT
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hello
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>>127282810
>overeat
>wake up one day
>look in mirror
>neck is just gone
It takes a really, really stupid person to get that far.
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How do you build CK item wise?
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>>127299113
Wand + Treads + Drum + Armlet = ready to fight.

After I usually go SnY > Skadi / Heart > Assault

May need a BKB at some point if you're having trouble getting Phantasm off.
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>>127300794
>>127300750
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why is account buying a thing? is it cheap?
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>>127300901
People think they're better than the bracket there in so they pay for a higher MMR account only to realise they were exactly where they belonged to begin with.

Mentality of most dotards here judging from all the ME OOGA TEAM BOOGA posts.
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>>127300901
people think they deserve to be at a higher mmr

peoples mmr is too high and it takes too long to queue so they want a new account calibrated and ready to go immediately

shit like that

a 4.5k account is like $20
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reposting from other thread

>>127300026

A well played ember will NEVER die. Compare this to Puck who fits the same niche you pick it for. Puck will always be somewhat balanced just because yes, a well played Puck is unkillable but Puck really can't do any killing on his own without a team.

Ember is a better puck (he doesn't die) that does ridiculous bullshit late game and that sort of ridiculous bullshit (SoF rapier spam) is low skill. Carrying 2 rapiers and 1 shotting a support without any risk can happen in 6.86 because of various changes like Lotus Orb, Glimmer Cape and Linkens existing which allows for unpunishable SoF and remnant dives.
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>>127300901
After some casual googling:

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/672231-Welcome-to-SHOP-NOOB-MMR-CHEAP-ACCOUNTS-3K-OVER-6K-ORIGINAL-MAIL-FOR-SAFE-HERE!!?s=7c940a002e01211a2bd2a746123a5d65
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>try my best, lead team, get best score and hero damage
>lose badly
>someone on team says to report me, drop all my items and feed 25 kills
>win
I hate this game so much
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noob question

is it better to play with one hero for all of your matches or is it better to switch it up sometimes when you're just starting out? i've played every single match so far as just one hero since i want to master it. is this a good way to approach it?
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>>127301341
Playing one hero is the worst thing you can do. You're learning nothing. Do you know every skill in the game? No? Congratulations you are sub 500 mmr.
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>>127301216
if you can win through that good fucking job most gulagites would just give up

>>127301341
spam one hero until you learn the games mechanics, after that use like 4-5 that can encompass every role

eventually you will need to be able to play a larger pool of like 15-20 heroes but don't even worry about that yet. just play the game
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How to play Meepo?
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hey guys did you know uhh ADELAIDE

LMFAO
ADELAIDEEEE HAHAHAHGA ADELAIDDEEEEE
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>>127301505
tab poof
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>>127300554

nice 4 chaos knight.
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One more time for the boys
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>>127301505
Play like any other hero, but you can stack without losing exp, gank without losing exp, get runes without losing exp, etc.

Other than that, just tab poof tab poof .... to kill someone.
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>>127301341

>>127301440
>>127301442
top is right if you want to become pro at dota but its just a game, have fun
and if you want to main a hero play juggernaut
also playing only one hero isn't how you master it you have to play against it/ watch replays of pros
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what hero
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why arent there any tournaments? does Valve want Dota 2 to die?
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I just had a 75 minute game and it made me wonder, what factors keep a game from drawing out too long?

In that particular game, it was a Legion Commander with 230 bonus damage from dueling.
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>>127301814
breaker
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>>127301606
It's what we do.
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>>127301814
antimage
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>>127301341
>>127301440
This is fucking bullshit.
You learn the game much better by spamming 1 or 2 heroes.
That's because when you know the ins and outs of the specific hero and basically play the hero subconsciously, you can focus better on general game stuff like map awareness, timing, smokes, etc.
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>>127301814
viper? dk? slark? idfk
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>>127301814
OD.
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>>127301814
it's drow ranger
fucking awful build jesus christ
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can someone post that picture of ppd's gf please
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>rtz plays mango bay
>start to dance uncontrollably

what's wrong with me?
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I see forced 50 is still a thing, despite not really playing for a month
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>Tried for sea qualifiers
>lose 2nd match

how do i git gud
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>>127302103
francis?
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>>127302036
I think she's pretty cute to be honest family.
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>>127301937
agreed senpai
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QUICK, I need Elder Titan tips stat
Should I bother maxing Stomp first in pubs?
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>>127302151
who
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>>127302157
post it I can't find it anywhere
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>>127302192
yes, just tell your teammates in chat not to wake them up
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How are these people dancing dota related
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What has Universe been building on void?

Alternatively what name has he been playing under?
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>>127302070
>people G E N U I N E L Y believe that forced 50% is real

It's honestly pretty baffling how deluded some of you dotards are who can't face up to the fact that you're not as high an impact a player as you think.

It's always MUH TEEM or MUH FORCED 50
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>>127302070
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>>127302047

>mfw
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>>127283259
Io
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>>127302192
You max your spirit like always
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I did it, guys!!!
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>>127302301
shh dont reply to them

thats what they want
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>>127302309
you left out the normal skill and normal match
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>>127302301
the SK in my luna game refused to join in at a critical team fight despite him having blink, and then I told my team not to fight and they didn't listen and lost a 4v5 and rax
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>>127302345
Congratulations!
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>>127302345
Gratz Anon, keep the grind going
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>>127302442
Thank you!
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>>127302345
welcome to hell
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>>127302345
haha 4k is not even good fAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there's people that are 8K~! LOL fukcing oser
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>>127302345
now you get to play with peruvian shitters who'll keep you from hitting 5k
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>pick invoker
>win

Nice game dotards
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Guess who won.
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>>127302548
>purge is anti trump
based
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>>127302672
dire
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>>127302672
Bottom team because sven didn't buy a blink, also you need to remove the gold next time
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>>127302672
'dire
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>>127302548
>Purge is voting for Bernie
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*starts ulting a tower*
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>>127302790
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Vlads/Soul Ring/Dragon Lance Pushing Lina

Viable?
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>>127302790
nice try but we know this didn't happen in your game because no one picks that trashcan hero
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>>127302723
>also you need to remove the gold next time
SHIT
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>>127302434
and this is somehow valves doing, and not your fault for being stuck in a shit tier mmr because you are bad?
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>>127302790
>2 and a half FREE rings of health
>still sucks
how do we fix DK Knight?
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>>127302548
>purge always trys being the biggest "professional" at his "work"
>brings politics into videogames
he's lost it hasn't he
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>>127302913
It was a normal match, but I don't know why they don't just match by average MMR
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>>127302317
>has never seen the horror a surprise carry Io inflicts upon enemies

AA is the correct answer
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>>127303014
forced 50 is not a thing and thats coming from someone who has climbed 3.8k mmr
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>>127300554
Checked
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What counters Juggernaut?
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>>127303306
take his mask off
itll be extrememly paneful
uuuu
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>>127303127
I'm pretty sure it's a thing, it always ends up that someone throws in one way or another after a win streak

although some heros like Old PL made it irrelevant by how well you could do with them, spectre is close but spectre requires a team to be effective and that can't work in a pub
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>>127303306
ghost scepters
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>>127303306
Any tanky carry, or orchid, jugg's a pretty solid semi-carry all around though
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>>127303306
storm is breddy good since most likely he wont buy manta early, or if he does, you are fucked anyway
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Are any of these heroes good or no i havent played in a bit
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>>127302941
>a hero that is supposed to deal damage
>doesnt deal damage
str stat gain increase from 2.8 to 3.1 , dragon form physical damage bonus 20/40/60 and attack range bonus from 372 to 400

hes top pick/ban now, top midder and top safelane carry
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>>127302047
>mfw
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>>127302392
?
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>>127303563
bloodseeker is literal garbage now
necro gets hard countered by glimmercape
terrorblade is good for splitpushing and is a teamfight monster when he's slotted
np is good but you need to know how to not be a worthless 10 minute jungler
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FeelsGoodMan PepePls MANGO BAY FeelsGoodMan PepePls
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>>127303685
you won a jugg game in 14 minutes with only phase and aquila? lol what happened that game
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>>127303824
he probably deathballed with a lone druid

healing ward and lone druid is some scary shit
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>>127303824
>>127303887
Nah, we got multiple kills each lane, one of them tilted, fed and abandoned.
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>>127303685
Please for the love of god never build battlefury on jugg unless you're against Brood or PL
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So Dotards
Whats the build for Riki in this patch?
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>>127304070
repick dumb frogposter
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>>127304070
ring of timemachine
also filtered
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>>127303367
>it always ends up that someone throws in one way or another after a win streak
then dont be a bitch and tell them what to do, if you are doing well they will listen 100% of the time
valve cant control people in your games. you can.
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>>127302309
>got some lucky winning streaks
>wants to prove forced 50% WR wrong

lmao
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RTC not even going the machine gun build

baka desu
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who /perceptiveplayer/ here
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>>127304249
but it's my job to explain to them everything they're doing wrong and what they should be doing
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>>127303523
what do you mean he won't buy manta early
every non-braindead jug is going to go manta against any orchid buyers
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>>127303621
>good Terrorblade
I can see that working, actually.
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>>127304397
nice.
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>not going Caster Luna
baka desu senpai
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>>127304471
while you go orchid first item, they wont go manta first item

if he manages to farm up a core item AND a manta while you farm up an orchid, you are probably fucked anyway
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>>127304576
>going caster luna against a juggernaut
stay 2k
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>>127304658
that screencap is literally from rtzs stream you shitter lmao
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>>127303621
Since when was DK 'supposed' to deal damage?

The whole point is that he gets a lot of innate tankability which opens you up to build damage on him.
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think of things that would raise the skill floor

>skills can be set to auto level up
>skill points are auto applied past lv16
>bkb can be used while stunned but it will not purge the stun or debuffs until you are unstunned, just prevent any new stuns of magic damage
>when you buy soul booster the fucking piece of shit game doesn't make arcane boots
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>>127304786
get some comprehension lad
he didnt even imply that was you
what he meant was "you're 2k for thinking rtz should build caster luna against jugg"
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>>127304786
how fucking retarded can you be
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>>127304786
>that build
>caster
nigga you're so dumb
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>>127304794
remove dagger penalty
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So a new patch just downloaded NOW!

what does it do, I can't find any info on it
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>>127304791
if you ever played dk in your life youd know that even when you build damage item he still deals trash damage, you need level16 and to be overfed to stay relevant
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>>127304968
>>127304968


https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3z7s0e/dota_2_update_january_2nd_2016/
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>>127304967
desu not that big of a deal
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>>127305045
thanks based redditfriend
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>>127304637
>Orchid: 4.1k gold item made of 7 pieces, the most expensive of which is 900 gold and the cheapest of which is 325
>Manta: 5k gold item made of 5 pieces, the most expensive of which is 2k gold and the cheapest of which is 450
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>>127304994
Not really familia.

A quick enough maelstrom gives him plenty of teamfight impact.
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best streamer
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>>127304794
>making the game braindead even further
>somehow raising skill floor
back to lol with you
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So what are we drinking tonight before a little bit of the good ol' Ultra-violence, boys?
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>>127305168
you seem to be confusing the skill floor with the skill ceiling
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>>127305168
what is it about dota that attracts illiterate fools
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>rtz makes dragon lance
>makes bkb
>starts building butterfly
>probably still wouldn't disassemble dragon lance

???
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>>127304794
being able to mouse hover a skill thats on CD, likewise to when youre silenced now
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>>127304794
>all heroes skill all their abilities before level 15
>some skills aren't worth leveling up over stats
>chain-disabling an important target isn't a valid strategy
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>>127305164
>all that horrible everything placement

No thanks
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>>127305164
>tfw this guy is hitting that every night
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So why aren't you playing Borderlands 2, the better MOBA, dotards?
:^^^^^^^^^^)
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>>127305370
ok

>if you have all your skills max when you level up, the skill point is auto applied

there
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>>127305053
Its a pretty big deal on heroes like shaker or sand king, but if you play a lot with those two you will learn the max blink range with time anyway
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>>127305485
How mad do ya gotta be to make that?
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Can solo hard dk work?
what items
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@127305485
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>Gonna mango bay it up in my bed
What did he mean by this?
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>>127304967
What penalty?
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>>127305665
clicking outside blink daggers range will blink you like 2-300 units shorter
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how to fix Dota:
4-man stack will play a 4vs4 game with another 4-man stack
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>>127305704
I don't understand, because I'm reading that as it having unlimited range but always leaving you short of the click.
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>>127305665
If you cast Blink Dagger at under 1200 range, you will blink to that spot.

If you cast Blink Dagger at over 1200 range, you will blink 1000 distance in that direction.

So in reality, Blink Dagger is a 1000 range blink that rewards you if you can sometimes hit the sweet spot between 1000 and 1200.

It's the stupidest shit ever.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuyV6G6atoQ
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mango bay is literally such a fucking based meme
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>>127305816
That literally makes no sense. The probability must of the events leading up to that must have been astronomically low, because the only way that could exist is if somebody had a seizure and started mashing keys in such a way as to program that in.
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>>127305830
>>127305962
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>Writing a bot to play Dota automatically
>Technically doesn't cheat, so VAC can't detect it
I just got all the visual and audio cues to register properly. Framework is ready, and I'm going to teach it how to Dota now. What heroes should it play? (Needs 2-4 options in case someone picks before him).
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>>127305962
definitely better than le carry abaddon or adelaide

those are the two worst memes of 2015 besides swnl and honey pot lans
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>>127305830
>>127306015
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>>127306038
if you can make a bot that can actually win games it would be awesome anon, valve would hire you or something idk
but you're probably memeing so meh
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>>127306038
abaddon (carry)
lich (carry)
sniper
zet
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>>127302548

Wow I didn't realise purge was such a cuck
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>>127306038
>bot dies to a savage roar
lol
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>>127306038
techies can simply be played by a robot
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>>127304576
That isn't caster, that's a standard build, caster is getting an aghs

also why are you playing on 720p?
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>>127305976
it's a penalty for double tapping blink

no one notices it
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>>127306127
We'll see. I mean, Valve had to code a lot of heroes at multiple difficulties (even though they could cheat). I'm just doing a few at one setting.
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>>127306192
it's a screenshot of RTZ's game, he went right click Luna instead of Caster Luna. He lost horribly.
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>>127306038
Meepo
Invoker
Chen just to see if its MMR drops by supporting
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>>127306301
but caster luna is highly situational and depends greatly on farm
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>>127306242
make a github repo on how you're doing it pls if you're not memeing it
when you die because it would probably be super hard someone can pick it up
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>>127306038
techies
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>>127305084
not him, but i never understood why people are so afraid of going to r/dota2 to get ACTUAL content?

you know you dont become a redditor, right?
the real problem is when you start liking the site, when you make an account, when you buy a fedora from ebay, when you start going to other subreddits that arent r/worldnews and r/dota2, when you make an account and start interacting, when you downvote someone not because you disagree with him, but because he hurt your feelings.
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>>127306587
>get ACTUAL content?
name one thing /r/dota has that /d2g/ doesnt
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>>127306587
>worldnews
im afraid u've already reached fedora tier m'lord
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>>127306587
I actually hate how I'm being forced to go to r/dota2 just to see the NEWS of dota because that's the only place where you can go for it without missing anything
i actually made an account to keep myself aware on how fucking circlejerking they are when they answer butthurted at my comments
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>>127306587
>r/worldnews
>sucking Putin's cock on a daily basis
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>>127306587
not 2 be contrarian or anything but when was the last time icetoad posted on there or they got some super secret exclusive valve leak? and what important dota news is there aside from patch notes?
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>>127306587
this is actual content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuyV6G6atoQ
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>>127306684
umm
this??? >>127304968 >>127305045

>>127306701
>>127306763
i have literally never visited r/worldnews but i assume its very useful if you want to get an idea of whats going on? im sure if you go there you can form your own opinion about whats going on, and not automatically assimilate whatever opinion the comments are shoving down your throat, right anon?

>>127306734
you are right.

>>127306865
reddit always has autistic neckbeards who can track fucking anything, they got the whole Beesa and Ritsu thing, R. Lewis and Loda, all of that shit first appeared on reddit and people who browse there came to post it here, all drama and news is first posted there and if you want: patches, news, drama; you must go to reddit to find it.
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>>127306913
>beginning of rtz stream 7k views
>now 10k views
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>>127305146
His biggest problem is ultimately his base speed, which sucks.
So you're forced to buy a mobility item on him, even with ult up you're still slower than most people, especially since carries usually build yasha in some form whether it be an early SnY or a Manta. Even supports will run circles around you since they fairly often get a Euls.
So your first item needs to be some kind of mobility item, Shadow Blade or Blink.
Which runs into the problem of DK not being able to farm fast, so you need a Maelstrom, but that comes out after your blink, so it takes a while, and you really need to turn that into a Mjollnir because DK just so desperately needs attack speed.
Armlet is actually good on him since it gives him 65 damage and burst health, and hardly hurts him when it's on because of his ridiculous base regen.
But he's still not viable because even if you load him up with lots of 2k items you need six of them to make him work and round out all his weaknesses.

He's a carry that can't farm, can't chase, can't escape aside from hoping he can tank long enough to slowly meander to safety, and can't do damage.
Therefore you have to play him as an offlane initiator and just forgo damage. The buff helped him a lot now, he can stay in lane and just can't be forced out meaning he should have great cs during the laning phase, and his winrate went up from 46% to 49% in 4k and 5k, but you're not gonna be seeing 50%+ winrate DK anytime soon. But yeah I think he fills his current role fine enough, people better than me are winning almost half the time with him so he's not useless.

His winrate in lower skill brackets is actually worse now, probably because of unskilled shitters thinking the extra health regen lets him 1v5 or something stupid.
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>>127303935
shut the fuck up ape
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What's the arcane ring of Dota 2?
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>>127307147
literally mana boots
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>>127307140
Battlefury is one of the worst things you can buy on jugg basher/MoM is going to be better in 99% of situations, and a soul ring takes care of all your mana issues
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>>127301341
random every game
no exceptions
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post techies reaction images when things go just as planned
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>>127307245
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>>127301980
>phase boots on traxex
eeeeww
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>>127306587
>ACTUAL content
ok let me do that

>1st post, link of a gif *humor gif*
>2nd post, link of ingame humor
>3rd post, link of a gif *humor/bug gif*
>4th post, notice of a patch (who even gives a fuck about patch notes that isn't game balance)
>5th post, another gif *humor*
>6th post, a gif explaining that orcales spells actually do shit
>7th post, image of ingame humor
>8th post, video of miracle
>9th post, gif post of gems on WD ult
>10th post, a shoutout post to a team beating another team
>11th post, link to arc warden fan art
>12th post, image showing EE hasn't lost since he stopped picking PA
>13th post, gif of a combo in a pro game
>14th post, bug report
>15th post, advertisement regarding tickets
>16th post, image of some shitty exercise game for dota
>17th post, reminder of a show match
>18th post, image complaint about valve armory restrictions
>19th post, image of effigy bug
>20th post, image complaining about party stacks
>21st post, image of a retard in a pub game
>22nd post, image of dota twitch's page showing rtz stream
>23rd post, advertisment about buying charms
>24th post, notice that there's a patch out
>25th post, some text post about a survey or some shit

wow real amazing, can't believe I wasted time browsing reddit and then writing this post
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>>127301341
pick techies

literally zero skill requirement
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>>127307285
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>>127307245
>acting like bfury blink isnt the best build almost every game now

http://www.datdota.com/hero.php?q=Juggernaut&p=items

set it for 6.85 since 6.86 is empty for some reason? and see how dumb you are

soul ring, how dare u make me read ur posts
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>>127307347
yeah there's nothing happening right now, doesn't mean news don't get posted there
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>>127307245
>don't buy a farming item on a guy who scales exponentially off of farm, get a dueling item or an item that reduces his effective HP instead
>also rush an Aghs
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>>127307347
im aware of r/dota2 and reddit in general being a clickbait autistic circlejerk pile of steaming shit but sometimes you get lucky.
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>>127307347
sounds like us except we have memes
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>>127307423
Hey buddy, fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Now ride off on it or stop talking about reddit.

Talk to me about Drow Aghs or something.
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>>127307397
>you gotta browse reddit for real content
>but wait a majority of the time there isn't real content

are you retarded?

I'll find out about anything *news* worthy within minutes on /d2g/
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>>127307376
>>127307414
Soul Ring gives you infinite sustain and with a MoM + Healing ward you can farm the ancients extremely early

in any case you should pretty much always be getting soul ring/mom on jugg

also battlefury takes far too long to come out if your farm is slow and you don't need it because you can farm the jungle quickly with blade fury and your soul ring
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>>127304794
or people could just gitgud or make scrubs play only with scrubs
match making system is total bullshit
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>>127307498
i thought aghs drow was just gonna be a niche meme if an alch is in the game but i've had a couple in my games that really worked, it was kinda hilarious, lightning and mkb minibashes fucking EVERYWHERE
i like it but im not sure if you should get it like, after like treads or buy a yasha or maelstrom before or what the fugg
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>>127307528
You can also farm Ancients very quickly with a Bfury and Healing ward as well as the jungle, all the lanes, and enemy laners since you won't die 25% sooner and have cleave damage on a guy that shits crits like crazy.
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>>127307528
requesting mmr so i know ill never see you
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>>127307509
>browse
>look at the main page for 5 minutes each day
wew anon
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>>127307509
>I'll find out about anything *news* worthy within minutes on /d2g/
If you went to r/dota2 you'd quickly realize those news on /d2g/ are posted by reddit spies.
Not complaining though. Leddit is just fundamentally shit.
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>>127307370
>start mining near rune spot
>sitting around next spot waiting for mana to come back
>CM goes down tiny stairs between me and first minefield
>second minefield literally zero mines
>oh_fuck.jpg
>I run for the rune so I could at least deny
>she runs away
>she steps on the mines
>first blood
>middle takes rune
>just as planned
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>>127307647
yea I'm sure you browse a site designed for click bait titles for just five minutes
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>>127307147
soul ring
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>>127307616
Drow does decent damage with a few points in her aura, but I feel like an early Aghs is a meh decision. Only gives her 10 damage and 10 attack speed, and although she technically can hit 3 targets at the same time unless she has some kind of orb beyond her frost arrows it's kind of meh.
I'd say at least a Maelstrom first
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if you make aghanims on drow you are a fucktard
>>
The age of MOBAs is over.
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if you pick drow you are a fucktard
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>>127307689
okay fine faggot, 20~30 minutes
meh
i suck
whatever
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>>127307805
if you are on a lose streak you better pick traxex
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>>127307370
>suicide
>just as planned
It's literally used when things are not going just as planned
except if you wipe
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>>127307924
>not planning a 5-man holy hand grenade shot with your Tinybro
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What can you do nowadays to keep Huskar from just fucking your shit up if he gets close to you? Force Staff?
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>>127308045
>>
what is a good item to buy on Earth shaker after mana boots > blink > HoD?

what if its too early to make aethers?
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kunka is shit
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>>127308271
veil
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>>127308271
you build treads into mask of madness into crystalys

jk you dont play that cheese shit
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>>127308271
force staff?
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>>127308329
you right im dumb
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I never was killed by afklers more then here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXAPIDf3wNY
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>>127308271

force
euls
shadow blade
octarine core from disasembled arcanes
sometimes rarely aghs
refresher

all of these are better than HoD and Aethers
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OH SHIT

I randomed lich

what is the current carry build for lich in 6.86 ?
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Mango Bay
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whats the best way to pick heroes to increase my mmr? i tried spamming one hero no matter what, doesnt work too well. i tried waiting until last to counter pick best i can, doesnt work too well either.

what do?
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>>127308625
BoT, aghanims, bloodstone, octarine, scythe
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>>127308709
stop supporting trump ez 7k
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>>127308625
treads, you want dat HP and atack speed
orchid so that you have something more useful than spamming your first spell like a retard
aghs, enough said
pigstick, you want to disable that ursa, don't you?
buriza, it's late game already and you want to outDPS half the enemy team
tarasque so you can beat 1v1 a mega creep wave
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>tfw this playstyle of weaver will never be viable because it requires too much farm to save people

AT LEAST ITS FUN IN OVERTHROW
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>>127308709
Just git gud. mmr necessarily follows afterwards.
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>use mic in csgo >3 different commends in one game and 2 friend adds
>use mic in dota >CYAK BLYAT IDI NAHUI

dotards???
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>>127308271
arcanes>blink>forcestaff>veil>octarine from arcanes>bots
at this point you can do whatever is needed
aghs/refresher/scythe/shivas/
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tfw cutie twitch slut that isn't russian and plays better than a 4k trash like me
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>>127303563
Terrorblade is alright, the rest are not as alright.
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>>127303082
aa was a mid ti1 nerd
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>>127309103
>necrophos
>bad
choose one
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Guys I want to kill myself.
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>>127309208
> Glimmer cape.

Iunderstand u havn't played in a while but that item shits on necro so hard it isnt funny
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>>127309052
shes a muslim cutie, i wonder how her body looks
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>>127309235
thats stupid
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>>127309052
>tfw no sandnigger gf
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>>127309235
don't lol if you do that you die faggot
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guys i made oc))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>127309238
you could just wait until they are at 35% hp instead of 50%
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>>127309323
good work
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>>127309238
it really doesn't
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>tfw when adelaide gives you a gift
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>>127309297
>muslim

She said on stream she has tattoos.

She has a boyfriend, who is not only a white guy but also a kafir (infidel).

She swears.

She dresses like a slut.

She also said she's not religious on stream.

Let's be real here, she would have acid thrown on her in her home country, or be stoned to death. Allah wills it.
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>>127309235
Go farm jungle IRL
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>>127309238
>a stunned enemy can use glimmer
/d2g/
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>>127309238
>glimmer cape
>nerfing necro
i understand u are a 4k shitter but you arent supposed to use scythe as a duel
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>>127309393
its been months
I still don't get it
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>>127309438
>he uses scythe on supports
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>>127309238
In high level play, Scythe is only used as a disable and not to execute people.
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>>127309416
still muslim tho
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>>127309393
i want adelaide to trip and have his head smashed in concrete
>>127309458
some dumb faggot australian trying to force his gay meme like the L O N D O N g
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>>127309052
>>127309416
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>>127309052
thank you allah
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>>127309052
>5.5k

>a girl is better than me at dota

Should I kill myself?
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>>127308709
spam a hero that's not hard counterable

SF, Ember, WR, etc.
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>>127309519
Why? Hes a nice person..
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>>127309416
I would have assumed he meant arab
muslim status obviously has nothing to do with how she looks, so my guess is that this retard thinks "muslim" is an ethnicity
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>>127309604
you could probably reach 5k easy if you were getting paid for playing. most people have real fulltime jobs and commitments other than dota. not saying you shouldnt kill yourself but you know...
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why is ephey so perfect bros
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>>127308794
this
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>>127307628
Except you're farming ancients at 30 minutes vs 15 minutes
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>>127309323
based neste going to beat all the ruskies so hard
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so is invoker the cancer of 6.86? I've seen it in every game for weeks.

seems the "strong in every phase of the game" type
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>>127309852
why do you people think bfury is bad on jugg.. if you aren't shit you can get it at 10 minutes consistently, then you just win
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>get low priority for abandoning a 7-50 shit stomp
>need one win
>constant afk'rs and trolls
>5 lost games
>lose my shit and abandon
>3 wins required
>uninstall dota
check mate valve.
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>Be playing carry
>7-0-3
>team is yelling at me for not engaging in 2v4, 2v5 and 3v5 fights
why do some people feel like the carry should always be behind them when I have a tp scroll, they're nowhere near a tower and my killstreak is worth more than the kills I'd get?
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>>127309647
LOL LOOK AT ME

adelaide?

adelaide?

im adelaide and i ban evade because its funny to post my city lOLL LOVE LIVEEEEEE

i fucking hate him
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>>127310048
Because juggernaut can't live very long in team fights if he's focused and battlefury takes far too long to come out in the average pub game, it's only useful if you have no other cleave and really need cleave

hell some games orchid is going to be much more important than a battlefury after your MoM/Soul Ring

also you obviously don't use MoM in team fights, only when you need to chase or gain movement speed to run with phase boots
>>
>playing solo support
>carry yells at me in all caps I didn't babysit him
>it's my fault he keeps dying from being out of position
>he yells at me for 10 mins straight, I pretend to be sorry, apologizing, etc.
>we lose early-mid game with 15k deficit and all outer towers lost, but somehow make a comeback with key pickoffs and smokes
>as we're pushing their base, I destroy all my items and start intentionally feeding
>he starts losing his mind
>I keep feeding and announcing my team's positions
>lose but it was worth it

I gladly take the -25 because players like him don't deserve to win.
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>>127307794
dota is an ASSFAGGOTS
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>>127310447
>MoM/Soul Ring
who the fuck would ever build those items on jugg this patch holy shit
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>>127310198
pretty sure it's a reference to the name of an anime character but i don't wanna steal your thunder
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>>127310749
I usually do, it let me farm ancients+hard camp pretty early after a shitty start while naga free farmed the entire jungle with radiance

even had to jump right into orchid and immediately got a kill on ember with it
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>>127309604
But it's on NA so...
Unless of course you are a burger yourself.
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>>127310991
can you google or are you too stupid
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>>127310138
If only you had friends you could stack and crush it.
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Why did everyone suddenly stop building Void like they did before?
Now I see people going for weirdest shit instead of the standard MoM maelstrom etc.
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>>127308271
aghnaims, battle fury and buriza faggot
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>>127310198
Your rage only feeds him.
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>>127310998
>512 gpm
you can get like 800+ gpm every game with bfury as long as you stack for yourself with your hotd
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>>127311207
But I would have never gotten a battlefury in time to win that game with the incredibly hard safe lane I was in

aside from that, ya, no, the attack speed is great, and MoM provides added mobility to get around the map quickly with phase boots
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>>127310998
here, all 4.8k + ranked games
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>>127311106
Maelstrom is a meme item.
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>>127310572
just mute and continue playing, maybe by some miracle an initiator on your team gets the farm he needs and will start dominating the game or something similar, never give up even if it looks 100% lost
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Greetings, fellow /dota 2 general/ users.

I am city: ADELAIDE and I approve of the item: Heaven's Halberd being used on hero: Oracle

It is much more viable than the playstyle: Carry Abaddon

Please build: Heaven's Halberd on hero: Oracle

Thanks again, /dota 2 general/ users.
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>>127311367
to be honest you can jungle jugg from level 1 now with talon if you have a hard lane and you shouldnt be losing any lane with jugg anyways the hero has such a strong early game
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>>127311449
can you fuck off and die holy shit you pathetic loser
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>>127311375
The win rate is most likely skewed because the juggernaut/team in question was already going to win due to his GPM allowing him to build the battlefury

>>127311462
I forgot that was a thing now, so that might be able to work, but ya, WW/Void off lane is no fun as nothing is killable really
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>>127311512
woah woah woah, just cause a user has finally been able to build the correct item on Oracle doesn't mean you can berate them with your insults. Apologize to them at once.
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>>127311589
like I said I can consistently get battlefury at around 10 - 12:30 minutes and if you cant you shouldn't be playing safelane
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>>127311589
also in safelane you dont have to get kills your only goal should be to farm as much as you can without dying
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>>127311598
xd
>>
put into low priority for the first time

what are some advanced techniques to quickly get back to ruining real games
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>>127311106
Difference now is that you want more hp to make use of new time walk and mom isn't ideal since you die too easily (reduced range on time walk means you will get off worse chronos than before and not always trap as many enemies as you'd like).
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>>127309490
You use it on whoever is the most dangerous.
I'd definitely ult a support if they can win a team fight through mass disables. Especially if our support can lock down the carry with his own shit or if I can just lock down both at the same time with a Sheepstick.
Supports can be some scary shit. Like Omni. If I can ult him before he ults I'm fuckin doing it.
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>>127311886
>what are some advanced techniques to quickly get back to ruining real games

Hoping the enemy doesn't DC because that makes the match moot since it doesn't remove a match from the required number of matches.
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>>127311449
Perth?
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>>127311886
Mute everyone
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>>127311715
>>127311782
You have much better luck than I do then, any time I go safe lane their offlane is incredibly strong

With the damage blade fury does you should be going for a kill wherever possible, just hope the enemy gyro isn't smart enough to TP in to help

usual start is Stout/Quelling + 3 Clarity and now with 1 Faerie Fire, slow healing, but highly efficient with the healing ward
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>>127312047

I already do that

thanks though that is a good tip
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>>127312013

so if I dc when one team has megas the game doesn't count?
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>trading hits with the offlaner
>have a disable ready
>easy kill if my carry comes, so i ping the enemy
>carry keeps farming
>i die and the offlaner has 5hp left
>carry gets mad because i'm "feeding" and he did no wrong for not helping

I am so sick and tired of carry players that don't understand basic laning.
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>>127312075
its not about how strong the offlane is, you can just abuse pulls as the safelaner/ go to jungle with some lifesteal
watch some replays of envy playing safelane vs a dual lane
and if your safelane is hard you should never try to kill them, only play aggressive enough for them to fuck off
and that starting build is pretty strange but it doesnt matter as much, I like to start with tangoes stout salve and slippers of agi to build into pms or another set of tangoes depending on lane
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>>127312234
Go back to reddit with your reddit image man.
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>>127312234
>supporting in low level pubs
i thought we were over this
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>>127312181
>so if I dc when one team has megas the game doesn't count?

An entire team needs to DC for the match not to count. Happens often enough in LPQ.
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>>127312280
im a man who loves looking for adventure
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>>127302672
>drums on zeus
what is this shitty meme
>no blink or force staff
>NO AETHER WIN LANE LENS
>>
When are EU qualifiers?
Even reddit knows nothing
Yes I am a redditor :^)
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>>127312290

if I ever get in fucking game

15 mins and twice some faggot didn't ready up so back to queue

lpq seems to be the only part of matchmaking that actually works as intended, everything else is fucking shit
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>>127305628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuyV6G6atoQ
>>
why i buy forcestaff?
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>>127312271
It wasn't hard to begin with, it just turned hard when kills were missed due to no one on my team carrying a TP

as far as pulling goes I usually don't have time to stack and pull, mostly use it just to pull the lane back when it's pushed.
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>>127302672
Not a single person had a good build in that match.
Not one.
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Is it bad in 5k sometimes i still go forcestaff on bloodseeker for nostalgia purposes even though its game ruining most of the time
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>lost 21 of my last 23 games

Is the shadowpool real?
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>>127312315
>buying lens on a hero with already good cast range
>buying lens instead of veil
>sacrificing an energy booster for lens instead of octarine/bloodstone later on
what kind of logic is this
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tfw skeleton of free rating will never be meta again
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reminder to not enter a lane with the best JUNGLE HERO
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>>127312441
What do we say when we fall off the horse, Master Wayne?
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>>127312423
the most efficient way to farm in soloq is forcing the offlaner away from lane then pushing wave to their tower with spin/ autoattacks and then farming big camp between waves, you should be doing this every game pretty much
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>>127305976
It's an old holdout from wc3 mechanics that they decided to keep for arbitrary reasons despite not keeping other wc3 blink mechanics like minimum range.
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>>127312656
BIG GUY FOR YOU
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>>127312618
>got told how hard he and lc jungle sucked yesterday
>came back for more today
>even your cosmetic choice is bad

Are you a masochist?
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>>127312686
I take it you mean with a talon now, I could probably do that if I was ever against a passive off lane or solo off lane hero
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>>127312618
>muh trench level games
Reminder that in games of any decent level, the ONLY heroes that have a higher winrate in the jungle than elsewhere are chen and enigma.
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>>127312720
yes and it makes redditors go away
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>>127312741
dont need talon just quelling, talon only if you have a really hard lane like a aggrotri/ dual offlane with roaming sky or something then you just go jungle
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>>127312618
>Rush blink even before boots
>Go to lane, exclaim "Hey friends, I have my blink and duel, lets go"
>Sorry ass attempt to kill someone when you have zero damage and two idiots in lane who keep farming or somehow don't do enough damage to kill the enemy in time
>"It's fine guys, good strat I promise"

If you want to rush initiation and can't just, say, wait for a team fight or gank and walk up to someone low and duel them for easy wins, then rush a shadow blade instead. 8 minutes in the bonus 175 damage first hit and the extra damage on each other hit is far, far better for those early duels than a blink
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>>127312618
Reminder that you are memeing because that is literally the least useful level 6 build on any hero in the game ever achieved on purpose.
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>>127312860
For some reason I doubt farming the hard camp with just a quelling at low levels is going to work well before I have a morbid mask
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>>127312441

it's real, happened to me too
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>>127312902
do you not watch pro carries lane or something?
just mimic what they do
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>>127312618
Get better taste in cosmetics. LC has 3 good sets and you choice pieces from neither.
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>>127312973
I've been out of the loop for months and just started coming back in with this patch, there used to be a medium camp instead of a hard camp,

how does one even farm a hard camp effectively with jugg early, or does that involving putting points into crit, it can't be good for his health
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>>127313042
think it looks dope
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Its funny how noone who has lc arcana jungles hehe
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>>127313135
you can pretty much farm hard camp with any carry, and also you should always get a point in crit it makes you hit so much harder
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>>127313239
i have one but think its super ugly and the voice is shit
t. certificated jungler
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Hey guys, pick me even though I'm no longer a carry, offlaner, initiator or durable.

No idea what Icefrog was thinking with this patch.
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>not following PSG on twitch

why aren't you supporting our literal guy
help him leave the shadow kindgom
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>>127313340
he`s fun
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>>127313205
Clashes too hard in color and style, looks like a hack job. For a more unique look the Valkyrie set is better.
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>>127313408
fuck off PSG stop selfpromoting
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>>127313283
usually 1-1-1 for jugg, what do you mean any carry can farm a hard camp, I mean you can I'm sure, but you're going to take a lot of damage in the process unless something else I'm forgetting was changed
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>>127313440
idk it looks really cool ingame and i like the weapon
also rate my teams draft
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>>127313536
you should be pulling your creeps to the hard camp instead of the easy camp and farming it, even pulling the enemy creeps to it, and at the point where you are taking entire lanes you should be able to easily farm a hard camp with chokepoint jungling
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>>127313340
He's a better offlaner now than before, wtf are you talking about?
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>played DotA until 2009
>stopped playing the game because of life and I wasn't that interested
>graduated recently
>have been playing LoL for a few months and am in high platinum

Can I get into DotA2, lads? I have the same mechanics from before, so will I be able to just jump in with familiar heroes? League of Legends is a bit boring, and it's really annoying that I need to grind for every hero
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>>127313751
there are less heroes in dota 2 than warcraft 3 dota so heroes wont be a problem
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>>127313751
yeah, dota is pretty much a casual game right now
just buy shadowblade on every hero
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>>127313408
>not posting link to channel
good job
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>>127313751
>Can I get into DotA2, lads?

No reason to. Dota 2 is a massive timesink where most of the time you won't even be having fun playing it.
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>>127313705
That's an option, but any competent off laner is going to try and make your life hell for trying that, and isn't doing that going to cost me lane farm
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>linkens sphere blocks cask regardless if you're the first or second or last hit
>linkens sphere only blocks shackleshot if you're the primary target

not allowed to have any sort of advantage against that ginger bitch huh
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>>127313826
http://www.twitch tv/swayzesghost
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>>127313847
you gotta zone the offlane with your support, and how would it cost you farm you are pushing the lane first while not missing any creeps/ taking it with you to the camp to farm there
and if you are against a dual lane then just pull the small camp and farm it and the lane creeps at same time
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>>127313316
Give it to me then if you think its ugly ;_;
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>>127313987
See you're assuming that your support is at all competent, I assume the worst and go from there

But ya I do pull if the lane is pushed up, but most times I don't have time to pull through, or my support isn't good enough to do it

or depending on the carry it's a bad idea because the average ranged carry can't tank creeps under tower while a pull is going on
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is vlads literally the best item in the game?
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explain this dotards

https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/683558420717244417
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>play selfish jungler lifestealer
>get streak
>play support
>lose

explain this dotards
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>>127314185
dotard is an actual word
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>>127314156
It is now, just won a game with vlads/dragon lance lina
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>>127314206
carries have more impacts on games than supports do
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>>127283259

You have never seen the mid Io that is miku something something. Horrifying stuff to deal with
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>>127314206
dem 8 minute treads are surely gonna win you the game.
he's slow as fuck jungler
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>>127314206
only reddit thinks jungling is a meme
the next ti will have jungle lcs
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>>127314206
new day
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>turning the tide of the game because of you due tactics and not because you got fed up
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>>127314093
dont even need a competent support usually you can zone the offlane by yourself as long as you dont pick something retarded, and you have to forget the entire pulling to the small camp when the lanes pushed, you want maximum farm not the enemy to get less farm because they will usually get farm anyways if your team is bad
you just want to put yourself as far ahead as you can
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Am I in hell?
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I'm 4.9k and i think this bracket is still bad, is 5.5k where game gets good.

What range do account buyers disappear
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>>127314206
>get carried
>win
>don't get carried
>lose

Maybe start adding the players that carried you and your winrate would improve.
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>>127300890
good point.
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>>127314337
Why are your kills so low on the heros meant to get kills
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Guys help, I haven't been able to download replays since reborn was officially released and every time I try to it just says "couldn't open decompressed replay file".

How do I fix it?
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>>127314206

matchmaking is all luck
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>>127314337
kills are too low
i had a full page with minimum of 10 kills each and almost all loses
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>>127314206
this is me >>127314318
I was with rhasta. you just suck with support. should have warded more faggot
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>>127311449
Adelaide?
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>pretty much never play a hero i don't even like
>still do well with it pretty much every single time and win
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>>127314429
is wr the hottest waifu?
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>>127313440
how shit is mine?
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>>127314416
the hero doesn't matter, every game one lane will lose and they'll start intentionally feeding or messing with the courier or shittalking the team. This'll be by 15 minutes, and the enemy will spend 15-30 minutes pushing us in
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>>127314579
Literally Lina. Now please help me make replays work.
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>>127314337
>those fucking item builds
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>>127314338
5.2k+ and the matchmaking will start putting you into the 6k games to balance the average MMR.
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>>127314569
How can you not like cm? She's a nice pure slut
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Can any of you guys explain how Sheever is only 3k despite playing 6,000 games of dota?

Imagine if you practiced piano for 6,000 hours and yet couldn't play a simple piece.
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>>127314338
You will have EE spamming pa till he loses your games
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>>127314359
>get carried
i almost puked m8
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>bb- b but if you support you can win these games!!
i lost a game as jungle lc guys
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>>127314805
lc is defiantly top 10 worst hero
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>>127314206
>>127314772
tagging myself
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>>127314594
You're using one of the worst sets and sword for the hero.

Errant Soldier, Stonehall Royal and Flight of the Valkyrie are the only good sets.
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>>127314718
she's a girl, therefore she's afraid of trying and failing at something. this makes her unable to learn like men do.

also it's hilarious how some people make their living by playing games (streamers) and they're horrible at them, mostly girls (again). just take a look at the league of legends category on twitch and check out their rankings, most of them play the game everyday and they're still at low ranks, hilarious
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>>127314873
woman aren't competitive as men
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>>127314873
>she's a girl, therefore she's afraid of trying and failing at something.
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>>127314718
>Can any of you guys explain how Sheever is only 3k despite playing 6,000 games of dota?

Because she stacks a ton with players MUCH better than her (actual pros), meaning she never has any incentive to get good or ever have to meet with any real hardships to learn from.
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>>127314935
it's true though. why else would women be so bad at most things, remember that men dont even have any physical advantage in video games like they do in sports, why are MOST women still so bad at them?
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>>127314995
not socially acceptable to play video games
woman should doll up so they can please men for free drinks
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HOW TO MAKE DOOM COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY BALANCED

>Infernal Blade grants true strike.

FIXED
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where is pit lord
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>>127315071
Doom is being picked right now? His Winrate is actually close to 50????
I thought he was dead
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Who else is working hard at not being a scrub? I think I'm starting to like this game

>>127314995
>>>/r9k/

Stay there please
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>>127315037
but anon
gamer girls are a thing
it's just that dota requires actual skill as opposed to candy crush
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>>127314772
Going from top left to right.

>carried by spectre and wr
>got lucky wr got matched with 4 trashcans because it was time for his forced 50
>tiny's forced 50, most likely tried too hard until the end when his entire enemy team fed out of control hence his deaths
>carried by zet hard
>forced 50 for OD
>carried by sf

Congratz, even in your cherrypicked matches you weren't the reason your team won.
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>>127315071
removing lvl death was the biggest bullshit and doom is shit fuck you ice frog
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>>127315079
srs question where is pitlord
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>Enemy team picks Pudge
>MLG hooks from across the map
>pinging his location never stops people from standing still under him
>lose

>Teammate picks Pudge
>Fuckwad who can't land a single hook
>bitches at team for not feeding with him
>too scared to hook people in lategame because enemy team is too fat and can pick him off by themselves

Rinse and repeat for Kunkka, Axe, Invoker, WR, and Zeus.

Pubs are suffering.
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>>127314805
>dat obviously suffering SD that did all he could with the 4 retards on his team, one of them being a jungling LC
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>Ehome's offlane Kunkka skills stats at 1

Er, dotards?
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>>127314337
>no strength giving items
>on Chaos Knight
>no damage items
>on Chaos Knight
OSNWAYD

Hey I have 400% base crit with ult and another armor reducing 275% crit.
Building damage? Psshhhaaww naaahhh
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>>127314805
That poor Shadow Demon. Jesus look at that lineup
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any lone druid autists in the house?
could i get some tips?
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>>127315301
>"pros"
no wonder ehome is shit
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>>127315357
CK doesn't need damage, he needs Str/HP to keep his illus alive since without them he is flat out dogshit midgame and onward. If he doesn't do something with his ult then he is garbage because the ult has such a long cd.
CK's problem is in no shape or form damage.
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>>127315396
>>127315285
am and pa got reported by the other 3 no one blamed the jungle lc
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>>127315402
treads for me, phase for bear. upgrade bear and rabid, sometimes I just leave the ult for late game. don't forget to turn phase boots on when chasing niggas. vlad on druid assault on bear beginning by hyperstone. after that make whatever item the particular match needs

with ult off you will kill much more, with ult on you will die less
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>>127315402
>any lone druid autists in the house?
>could i get some tips?

Bulldog's LD guide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG9qqtdQwNY

Naturally consider the change in skillbuild and shit. Item builds and how to play the hero remains the same so it all still apply.
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>>127315464
CK scales exponentially off damage. Strength is good because it gives him both.
Which is why Armlet is such a good fucking item on him. Armlet, ult, 200 damage +250hp illusions. And this nigga rushed a fucking Manta.

And then got a HotD then started building a Skadi. I mean fuck. C'mon he's the one hero Heart is actually core on and gets the most benefit out of Armlet yet people don't want to build either on him.
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>>127315596
Bulldog is shit. I ain't taking advice from piece of shit.
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>>127315653
youre not me
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>>127315402
ult when you see an incoming projectile nuke/stun
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>>127315596
>blink dagger
fuck off with this meme item
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>>127315550
>no one blamed the jungle lc

Considering the match could've been salvaged with 1 more support they should've.
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>>127315671
We are one :3
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>>127315696
I hope you mean meme item on LD, and not in general.
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>>127315646
>Which is why Armlet is such a good fucking item on him

Only if you have wisp. I hopefully don't need to go into why when it's so painfully obvious.
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>>127315402
Only play him if you can play 2 heroes perfectly at the same time.
otherwise you're better off playing any other hero.
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How do I get good at Dota? I've been playing for a month and I still have no idea about builds, items etc. Without trying forth stuff without getting yelled at in normal games. I don't feed or anything, but it all seems like a clusterfuck with all the different heroes
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@127315750
janny what the fuck
do your fucking job or you wont get your paycheck this month :^)
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>>127315808
>How do I get good at Dota? I've been playing for a month and I still have no idea about builds, items etc. Without trying forth stuff without getting yelled at in normal games. I don't feed or anything, but it all seems like a clusterfuck with all the different heroes

There are no good guides on this at all, so you know.
This is why most people are generally pretty bad at this game and have such splintered knowledge. Why? People just keep playing and learning through endless trial and error.

Because of this there isn't even much point in getting good at the game since you won't get matched with and against genuinelly good players.
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>>127315808
play with a new hero everytime, actually read the skills and item descriptions. be patient. play with bots to learn stuff if you don't want to get yelled at. after you figure out your shit go back to pubs with heroes/combos in mind. try out EVERY hero.
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>>127315908
what a salty post
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>>127315808
Almost all advice you're get will be wrong or bad. D2g, reddit and so on almost entirely consist of players of not even average skill.
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What the fuck is that cringeworthy donation sound/gif on bulldog stream?
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>>127316041
>what a salty post

It's a realists view.
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>>127316089
He's a washed up living meme. What do you expect? It's all he does to cater to his viewers.
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>>127315769
That's dumb and stupid. Illusions fully benefit from the strength, but their health doesn't drain from the effect. Armlet is a super cheap way to give CK armor, lodsadamage, sustain, and buff his illusions. Get a Mask next and land a crit and the health drain might as well not be a thing.
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>>127315908
>endless trial and error
>I've played a game with a player with 2000+ games who built mana boots on kotl
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>>127315750
o///o
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>>127315703
Supports have half the impact of carries. Supporting is for shitstains
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>>127316160
>That's dumb and stupid.

You have no way to restore the HP lost from armlet so you will lose a lot of HP, especially during prolong engagements. It also doesn't give you any additional movespeed to keep up with enemies (especially magic immune ones). I could go more indepth but I'm honestly tired of having to repeat this every week.

Treads, s&y, heart into halberd and manta is the general way to go on CK if you don't have wisp.
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>>127314863
>worst sword
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>>127315808
One of the most important thing is to get used to not looking at your hero

You running back to base?
Look around the map
A-clicking through the jungle?
Look around the map

You don't need to be centered on your hero the entire time
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>>127314863
that one feels too much like an omniknight set to me. I like the errant soldier, but I think my black knight vibe is chuckleworthy.
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I want to buy an arcana, however I'm unsure of which one I want, dubs decides.
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>>127316338
Chaos Knight is one of the fastest heroes in the game. Who are you having trouble outrunning, Windranger?
And with a 6 second pull it's not like people without blinks can get away even if they're faster than you.

It's also not like you don't get a yasha ever. But Armlet is something you can pick up in the laning phase and then you use it to one shot people with ult up.
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>>127316257
>Supports have half the impact of carries. Supporting is for shitstains

Except that's wrong.

The enemy had a much stronger early and midgame and that is why SD's team lost.
With another support over the uselessly jungling LC they could not only have made their laning stronger (so as not to die in lane), but also made their rotations and warding stronger.

SD was also a poor choice for solo support since that hero shines at ganking, which he can't do when solo since solo supporting locks the support down as a lane babysitter for the pos 1.

Good supports makes matches 10x easier to win since they can help secure the early and midgame, meaning if your cores fail with such an advantage they would have to be next levels of shit.
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i'd like to get off mr bones wild forced 50% wild ride now
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I feel a 10 loss streak soon...
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>>127316463
You should start going every single replay and check just how much HP you're burning through.
You can't even reliably armlet toggle now which makes it even worse.

People just have this old idea ingrained in their minds that "ck should get armlet!", not even realizing that the reasons pros even went with armlet on that hero was because of wisp.
This is no different from the people that still go manta and linken on medusa.
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>>127316463
>Chaos Knight is one of the fastest heroes in the game.
sey increases MS on %. that's just another reason to give him sey. MS is the most important stat of this game.

and you guys are all forgetting about battlefury and vladmir
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>me am into bloodseeker and pudge :)
>me brewmaster jungle :)
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>>127316656
>normal skill unranked

who cares
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>>127316672
I still go linkens on Medusa, but only when the enemy team calls for it otherwise it's Skadi.

Have never gone Manta on Medusa though.
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19-0 as jungle lc
i mean reddit said its bad...
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>>127316678
Vlads aura doesn't benefit illusions.
BF is good on him but as CK you should be farming heroes, not creeps. It doesn't mesh all that well on him since his main gimmick is to pull someone out of position, so the cleave won't usually hit much unless the enemy team is bum fuck retarded and clumps your death ball instead of throwing stuns out and magic until the illusions are dead.

>>127316672
I usually get a Heart second for this reason. But as CK you don't fight long fights, you ideally get a pickoff and then fuck off to kill a tower while your ult is still up. If you can get another kill chances are it'll be quick unless you're losing, in which Charles Armlet toggle can be a lifesaver.
I try to only turn on Armlet as I ult, then one shot a guy then turn it off. Switch it back on for a pull, off again once they're dead or if I can't hit anything immediately.
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>>127316937
Literally carried by the meepo and rubick
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>>127316937
>treads
Spot the shitter.
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>>127316937
You just prior posted a match where the deciding factor as to why your team lost was because of you and your jungle LC pick, yet you still learned nothing.

However because of these cherrypicked matches where you either got carried or were lucky enough to get matched vs complete trash you selectively choose to ignore all the matches you lost because of the jungle LC pick.
This is the perfect example of a bad player that won't improve.
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>>127317005
I know, but you also have a team and you need lifesteal m8.
and what is this new meme that BF is only for farming? you will your tard strenght damage on everyone near you in the team fight AND life stealing all that area damage aswell.

his ult is good m8, but you can't rely on it alone. you can play him almost like you play mortred.
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>buying smokes and just smoking your teammates without notifying them to make them get aggressive

Is this a legitimate tactic in pubs?
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>>127316937
It's a coin toss. You farm 8 minute blink dagger then what? If your team is winning 4vs5, you will likely to win the first few duels and snow ball from there. But if your team is losing 4vs5, you will likely lose the first duel or getting no bonus damage because you have no other items beside the blink dagger. If you stay in the jungle to farm more items then it will only prolong the 4vs5 period.

Your team is more likely losing than winning a 4vs5 early game, if they win then it's not because of you, you just stay in the jungle and play the autistic single player game vs creeps.
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Is the new Aghs on LC viable?
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>>127317647
Most of the time the effect is an outright detriment.
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>>127317647
Too much of a pain in the ass to farm up when you can get far better items for duel damage.
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How the fuck do i get good with Crystal Maiden?
What the fuck am i supposed to build on her?
Why is Spirit Breaker literal cancer?
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>>127317647

I only build it when I am ahead, I don't think it's good otherwise
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>>127317778

midas into dagon

skip boots
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>>127317778
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=7k+crystal+maiden
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See this
What do?
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>>127317778
>How the fuck do i get good with Crystal Maiden?

Your job is to kill other heroes and farm the jungle a bit. Very straightforward.

Just don't fucking build mek or something else equally retarded or think that your'e a good zoning support.
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>>127317778
Midas if it's a good game
tranquils
Standard support shit
BKB/Blink/Aghs are really good on her

Just frostbite the SB when he charges you, you dumb fuck
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>>127317647
>that deep dark obsession
S
M
H
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>>127317778
lothars
>ult and get invisible
>gg
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>>127317460
>>127317215
not really
these are all jungle lc games i played yet
i dont think you lose alot before minute 7/8 so you can impact the game really fast especially if they try to invade since you create space then

i will keep you posted for my 6k jungle lc journey

also >>Reddit
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>>127317647

I got it a recent game where they had a bunch of nukers and a good enigma with refresher, I dived their enigma, they wasted all their stuns on me but I still managed to kill him, then their entire team has no disable and we win the fight instantly.

Even if I didn't kill enigma, he either solo black holes me or dies right after.

Its a highly situational initiation item, underfed legions can kill supports at the back lines with just blink and aghs, and then either its a 1 for 0 trade or they have all their disables on CD.
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>>127318167
forgot my image
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>>127316257
>HOLY FUCKIN SHIT ARE YOU FOR REAL
LIKE
>LMFAO
YOU KID
>XD
IM DYING HERE
>THIS IS ONE OF THE DANKEST JOKES I EVER FOUND HERE
>LMFAO XD
I FEEL BAD FOR REDDITTORS THEY WILL >NEVER ASSIST AT SUCH A SHOW
PLEASE MY MAN LMFAO JUST XD MYSELF >IM SHITTING MY PANTS ATM ROFL
HOW
>JUST
HOW
>CAN
KEKE
>LEL
THIS IS GOLDEN
WOW
>I DONT KNOW ANYMORE
XD
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>>127317951
Nothing out of the ordinary here
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>>127318167
>not really

Yes really. That SD match was you just autistically spamming jungle LC without even remotely comprehending the ramifications, the basics of the game or even the basics of the hero.

Do I need to teach you basic stuff like this?
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>>127317778
Starting items.
Ward, two clarities, one tango (share 1-2 branches), Ring of protection
Level Frostbite first. Level aura at level 2 AND 3. Then level frostbite or nova, situation.

As for what to do from the start.
Jungle until level 3/4 and enough gold till you have tranquil boots.

Once you have tranquil boots, perma-roam with her for the next 10-15 minutes, through the whole laning phase looking for kills. Get a few more wards along the way, ideally the other support gets them though.

Next item is midas. If your roaming right and getting kills well enough with your cores and other team mates, and side farming here and there, you should have midas before 15 minutes.

Once you have midas, you should never not be buying wards because you now always have the money for it.

As for other items. Get at least 1-3 of the following; Euls, Blink, Force Staff. I personally go for Euls and Blink.

Anything after this is luxury. Aghs and bkb are absolute godly in teamfights on her too. Whatever is best. Generally speaking though, if my team is steamrolling I'll buy shit like deso, AC or whatever.
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>>127318375
watch the replay and come back
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>>127318393
Do not listen to this person's advice, he is very very bad.
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>>127318265

You're doing God's work, son. Not only are you playing a based hero in her intended role. (jungle) You're winning with her, having fun and giving seizures to autistic memer degenerates in these threads.
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>>127317951
>1500 gold
>no radiance recipe on the way
Rapier detected.
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>>127318403
>watch the replay and come back

There is nothing to watch when I can just look at the picks and end result and tell you precisely what went wrong (and already have).

Me watching you passively hit jungle creeps while your team crumbles around you because of your decision to jungle LC won't change a thing.
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>me pick sniper and die 11 times :)
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>>127318484
Mate, thats good advice, dont be shit.
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>Radiance is literally 1 Rapier against the enemy team every 1 second, and still has 60 damage
>Still only bought on like 3 heroes
Dotards?
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Troll Warlord cosmetics when?
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>>127318586
this is the state of the game when i won my first duel
we lost the game cause am and pa are absolute down snydrome apes and 100% gamelosing players
maybe if i was a better player i could have won, but the vanquisher of reddit, jungle lc is not to blame
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>>127318687
If I have to give advice to someone trying to give advice to someone asking for advice then something is wrong.

For example you suggest you should jungle until lv3-4 which is just dumb and missing the point of the hero and the support role.
You also suggest midas when that is highly situational, even in matches you have a good start in. Midas is gotten for the XP, not the gold (since it takes almost 20min for it to actually start earning you any gold). CM is not a level hungry hero.
Then you suggest eul, which is now a bad pickup on CM since she has severe manapool issues (seriously, do the math).
The list just keeps going on and on.
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http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2047824050

I was Drow, How did we lose?
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>>127318951
>0-2-4-1
You're not even memeing properly
>>
>when the player with 10 deaths in 20 minutes tries to blame you for losing the game
>>
>just got unbanned
>guy posting link to my twitch which I got banned for

I DONT KNOW THIS GUY
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what do you guys think of carrying a value mango on ember, in the early game?

all his spells are under 150 mana, and activate remnant is exactly 150 mana

allows him to be ballsy in fights and ambushes

>lol just lern mana management kek xd

this mango allows you to throw in 1 more bolas, 1 more flameguard or a remnant to chase. this one spell might mean a difference between a kill or two
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I haven't been able to sleep for more than 3 hours a day for 2 days

What's going on
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>>127318951
>this is the state of the game when i won my first duel
>we lost the game cause am and pa are absolute down snydrome apes and 100% gamelosing players

See this is you looking for things to blame because obviously your pick and decision to jungle LC totally had NOTHING to do with your team losing.

I have already told you precisely why you lost in a prior post and what could've been done to prevent it, but I bet you didn't even read that and brushed it away too because you of all people couldn't possibly be wrong. No no, every single time you lose, it is only because of your team.

You don't even understand that even IF your team didn't fall apart in that match while you were 100% useless the hero pick itself was bad and had no synergy at all with your lineup.
LC is an aggressive hero that is designed around going for pickoffs with your team and then pushing, rinse repeat. The only hero that even remotely fits into that is Luna and that is for the pushing aspect. For SD to fit into that he would've needed an additional aggressive support to duo rotate with, but he didn't.

But I can tell you're one exceptionally bad player that is determined to blame his team over improving. So why bother trying to help you.
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>this game FNG is casting
Jesus, did these people really enter thinking they could actually win this shit?
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>>127319339
Most people who lose in the first few rounds go into it for fun, I know one of my 4k friend was looking to do it
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>>127319304
Piggybacking on this comment

If you didnt go LC jungle but something more viable you could have salvaged the game, maybe with more aggression make space for AM and PA to be relevant

now check this out: when youre climbing, you wont win every game

but if you win more than 50% of them, you will be climbing

you win more than 50% by being a better player yourself

if you think only you get bad teammates, youre wrong. everybody says they have bad teammates, bitching about them wont increase your mmr
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>>127319339

>not having a bit of fun

my scrub stack used to enter gosu cup asia every month they ran it, get to ro32 and play some decent teams

why not?
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>>127319465
playing with bad teammates won't increase your mmr either
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>>127319264
mango is good on almost every safe lane and offlane hero
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Trapped in searing memes!
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>>127319465
he posted his match history. he won 7/10. also the argument isn't about mmr, it is about jungle lc viability. I don't know why faggots like you always bring mmr into it and act like you are the only one in the world not suffering from the dunning kruger effect.
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>>127319569
Memed, you and I!
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>>127319594
I didnt read the entire thing lol. I just thought it was about ranked because of that am ranked match history
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>>127319569

Your memes are here!
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>>127316518
I think support makes a big difference but imagine a team with 1 good carry and 4 tards and 1 good support with 4 tards
who wins?
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>>127319569
memes for the font
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>>127319716
The good carry doesn't manage to get any farm because his supports lose the lane for him and there is nowhere safe left to farm

The good support secures his retards farm, so his retards are more farmed than there retards, so his team wins
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Anybody else love this little faggot?

I always try to build it on AGI heroes, if I'm not getting PMS that is.

It gives so much for so little. And you can build it from starting items. I want to put it on my cock fuck I just love it so much.
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>>127319569
Whos this scroching meme?
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>>127319716
if you are a god tier support you can sort of guide 4 retards around with proper pinging and warding. but you are still correct.
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>Bulldog will get to 8k spamming LD and weaver
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>>127316691
>0 kills 0 assists
>all deaths

How is it possible to be literally useless
>>
6 decides which hero I main in ranked for th enext 100 matches
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>>127319779
Memes are all the reinforcement this army needs!
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>>127319716
That's why you take mid with a high impact mid-game hero.
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>>127319931
nowdays a ward costs 75 fucking gold and a carry can command tards too

>>127319843
just don't lose in 20 minutes. and you can manage to farm even if you are getting pushed the fucked out. this isn't lol.
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>>127320165
share your secrets
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>>127320165
this doesnt mean shit in a meta where getting rax doesnt matter and your safelane is as much important
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>>127319594
>he posted his match history. he won 7/10. also the argument isn't about mmr

Which is a cherrypick unless he has only played 10 LC matches.
He also didn't show the scores or anything meaning he could very well have been carried in most of them.

However this doesn't change the fact that in that SD match he secured the loss for his team by going LC jungle, when that could've easily been avoided.

Not willing to accept this facts cements you and him as bad players.
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>husk is quite possibly the worst hero in the game
>except in highly specific matchups where his mag resist makes him ok-tier
>nerf his mag resist

Why is husk shit and why does icefrog hate him so
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is dota basically league of legends now?

every game is decided by which team picks the better 5 man lineup

stupid new items to help everyone jungle

more jungle creeps

why live
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>>127320317
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>>127320330
>everyone can jungle now
is my favorite meem of 6.86
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>>127320317
huskar is the shit you just suck m8
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>>127320291
post your dotabuff and mmr please
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this game is kind of dogshit

t b h
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d44ykdKvCw

music to stay awake through the night to fix fucked up sleep schedule
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>>127320398
Uh dude, it's not 6.85 anymore you know
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>>127320120

shadow demon
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>>127320398
Ghost scepter husk was his one shining moment.

All other versions of husk since dota1 were basically worst-hero-in-the-game tier.

I guess he got play when casters became meta, but that wasnt because he was a good hero, but because he countered good heroes.
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>>127320757
>Ghost scepter husk
i fucking miss that buikd
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>>127319872
>I want to put it on my cock fuck I just love it so much.

lol
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>Void, DP, Medusa and HOHOHAHA

Chinks are memeing pretty hard.
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Post cute abaddons
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>>127320415
that kinda looks good senpai
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30 USD, is it worth it?
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what went wrong with this game?
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Why didnt nayone make custom games with old patches?

Surely it's such an obvious idea that someone must have done that?


Personally I think Valve should make these games themselves. I'm just surprised noone has done that already.
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>>127319872
>not getting PMS, Aquila, Wand on literally every melee agi hero
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>>127320964

>not buying one with everything unlocked
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>>127320964
I need those hips to live
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>>127321046
>PMS, Aquila, Wand on Broodmother
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>>127320992
Midas + q/w
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>>127320757
what the flying fuck I just read the wiki what the FUCK is this bullshit FUCK YOU icefrog

>berserker blood gives magic res instead of damage
>damage of life break is not pure
>leveling it up just increases slow

WHAT THE FUCK

anyway he's still not bad you fucktards. specially that now yo don't have to toggle lifesteal and burning spear. be thankful for that. he's life a reversed pudge. if you are not rekting low HP tards that are alone you are playing it wrong. after you get fed up enjoy being the target of the opposite team while killing everyone. with 10hp holy. shit huskar makes my dick hard.
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>>127321054
they cost like 50+USD also very rare
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>>127321124
>killing everyone. with 10h
gee, wouldn't it be such a shame if some support decided to use a spell on you
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>>127321124
ITS 6.86 YOU FUCK, HUSKAR IS DEAD YOU FAGGOT DEAAAAAD
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>>127320964
animation unfitting to her personality.
>>
>Pure damage now goes through Templar Assassin's Refraction but doesn't remove charges on the shield

There, I fixed TA
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>>127321145

I sold one a few weeks ago
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>>127320992
>noooo early game
>greedy as fuck
>all melee vs axe
>shit lanes, no babysitters
>who even plays beastmaster
>support vokes

You should have just went to bed.

Also i hate trees, all he does is prolong the game without contributing to anything
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>>127321208
won't matter with tard life regen when you got tarrasque and satanic

>>127321220
I WILL PLAY A MATCH WTH HUSKAR RIGHT NOW AND WIN YOU FAGGOT
HUSKAR WILL ALWAYS HAVE A PLACE IN MY HEART
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Iv donated over five thousand dollars to various female twitch streamers. i regret it so much but cant stop myself, i feel so loved when they thank me
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>Pick Alchemist
>Team picks Furion, jungle LC and SF
>Can't recover from bad lane because everything is being farmed by other heroes
>Get flamed
>Pick SF
>Team picks jungle BS and support pudge
>Get roamed on by SB and BH
>-50

Fuck this "hurr talon means jungling is broken" bullshit. Why can't these idiots realize jungling makes everything else fall apart?
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>>127321343
here's your >(you)
post more streamsluts
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>>127321343
you need to hit therapy m8, this self destructive behavior is not good for you
>>
>>127321343
holy shit man. I hope you are trolling.
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>>127321343
why dont you donate some dollars to one specific girl that would play with you?

it's better because then you know that girl thanks you and only you and not the other viewers
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>>127321263
how much?
>>
do you have to open hero bundles to use the contents?
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>>127320317
>huskar+dazzle lane

this shit should be considered abuse
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>>127321576

$35
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>>127321802
pic or lie
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>>127320291
except they didn't get destroyed early game, which means jungle LC wasn't what lost it, but maybe the AM with nothing but losses on his recent history did.
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>>127321872
>>
How many hours a day do you guys play DotA?
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>>127322174
errday
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>>127322174
all of them
I hope none of them once winter break is over.
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>>127322174

any hours that I'm awake
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>>127322225
>>127322291
>>127322303
How do you guys stand playing for that long in a sitting? Do you take breaks? Do you change the way you play? What?
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>>127322375

need2feed
>>
what kind of supplements can I use to improve my concentration in dota?
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hi doturds hows ur day

i hope ur not buttblasted today
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>>127322551
bleach
>>
I want a hero that has the ability to remove himself from the map for as long as he wants.

Not like phase shift or disruption where you can see where the hero is. Just remove itself from existence and reappear wherever he wants.
>>
Man, i should not play on weekends... the ranks are weird as fuck.

In the same game i had a 400 player, a 2k player a 3k player. And the 400 was the most bossy of the lot.
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>>127322551
eight hours sleep
a healthy balanced diet
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>>127322551
LoL porn
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>>127322874
I haven't played in a while. Can we see people's MMR now?
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>>127321343

I keep giving money to my wife's son because he threatens to erase my hard drive when I'm sleeping and I regret it but at least it gives me peace of mind
>>
I got ass kicked last game, mostly because i had an awful early game.

Enigma and Disruptor are a shockingly effective combination in early lane,
>>
>Pick Phantom Lancer since I realize the enemy has extremely bad AoE
>My team's Pudge already expects to lose since our comp has Lina, Weaver, Techies and Phantom Lancer me who gets killed easily versus TA, Huskar, Doom, Tusk and Lich
>Prove him wrong by becoming fed and killing everyone while Techies makes going high ground impossible

What is it with Pudge Mids being the most negative and toxic kind of people ever
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>>127323012
i can't remember the last time i saw a pudge mid

is this 1k mmr?
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gg wp
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>>127321120
should i have gone orchid instead
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>>127322039
damn if you wait, I would have bought it for $40
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>spending mad money to get chuan
>when you have actual good up and coming players
>settling for a washed out fat fuck

bravo newbee
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>>127322951
At the end of the game.
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>>127323083
2.7k MMR. Isnt Pudge the most picked hero right now?
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LC is such a boss ass bitch, wish I could make her my bae mane
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>>127320992
>>127323093
STOP GOING MIDAS ON QW INVOKER HOLY SHIT
OR EULS TOO
YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME FUCKING SICK AND MAD FOR THAT SHIT
YES, URN INTO ORCHID, PICK PEOPLE OFF WITH YOUR 522 MS WIND WALK, ONE POINT INTO EXORT FOR BLAST TO ESCAPE OR SOMETHING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
>void
>a ricing carry
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>>127322551
>>127322909

also coffee

nootropics are a very poorly researched and largely ineffective branch of medicine and i'd advise not resorting to them for "improved performance" in video games
>>
>>127323119
Yeah but you don't take him mid
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>>127323119
i have not seen him played as anything other than a support/roamer since 6.84 i think
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>>127323201
>>127323202
Oh well, tales from the trench that I am climbing out of. I have climbed from 1.7k to 2.7k, maybe I'll see less of it later
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>>127323193
sorry jay...
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3 kills 14 deaths 40 assists.

Such is life as a support, didn't stop my team shitting on me for having no kills.
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>>127321973
>except they didn't get destroyed early game, which means jungle LC wasn't what lost it, but maybe the AM with nothing but losses on his recent history did.

Keep telling yourself that. Jungle LC is after all incredibly strong in every single match. You can only lose when you get shitty allies, right.
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>>127320964
>30 USD, is it worth it?

No arcana is even remotely worth the pricetag.
There have been expansion and entire games released for less.

For example Deus Ex Missing Link was 15$.
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>>127323309
Just what MMR and region are you playing? Some regions and MMRs are more known for egoistical and ungrateful players

In most games I play, people do take notice when I do my job as a support correctly
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>>127323445
Why I also buy Ultimate and legendary skins in LoL.
Somehow when I used it in-game, I feel that it boosts my self-esteem and I perform better during ranked matches.
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>>127323309
I'd rather have my supports go 0/0/0 than have 14 deaths desu
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taking a shower then playing a 4k mmr jungle LC game, stay tuned
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>>127317778
Literally watch purge play her. He might not be 8k mmr but he knows how to play CM.
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How do I into support/roaming pudge?
Items and how to be useful?
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>>127323624
I have a friend that only tryhards when he's playing sf with arcana.
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>>127323309
>14 deaths

That is too high. Beaing a support doesn't mean that you're supposed to die.
I haven't fed that hard on a support in years.
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>>127323729
>lc jungle
Kill yourself, that's LD jungling tier
>>
so why doesn't valve make more sexy bitches like riot does?
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>>127323852
The important part is, and I can feel your eyes rolling already, to actually get kills when you come in to lanes.
>>
can someone explain to me why LC jungle is bad? isnt it a good thing that you are giving your cores more room to themselves so they can farm and get more xp?
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Is arc warden worth learning if i want an autistic hero to main
>>
GO STEAK GAMING!
>>
bout to LC jungle ama
>>
Steak Gaming are about to play. Our guy ODP is casting it.
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>>127324023
>so why doesn't valve make more sexy bitches like riot does?

Valve can't even make sexy women. Just look at Drow and QoP.

Only one with an actual attractive face is Naga, the rest are either butt ugly or have butterfaces.
>>
>>127324107
Yes. Assblasted losers that can't handle their own lanes are the ones who want help despite the fact that they can't last hit for shit
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>>127323987
>3+ KDA is feeding

- d2g
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>>127324023
because lol shitters are plebs while dota masterrace has transcended the need to look at tits and ass and prefers to admire the male form

No homo
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>>127302941
>>127303621
just give him an aghs that makes him permanent dragon
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>>127324245
14 deaths IS feeding
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>>127324230
go away owen
nobody cares about you nor your fuckbuddies meme team
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>>127324494
No you gotta pay the price bb
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who /steak/ here
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>>127324482
>3 kills 14 deaths 40 assists.
>what is tanking ganks/smokes
>what is trading your life for multiple cores + support

totally feeding
you're right
you know about the game
he should sit back in base and wait patiently I mean he might give the opponent 200g if he dies
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>>127324256
>>127324494
>>127324551
>>127324547
Mods save us
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>>127324256
>>127324494
>>127324551
eww fags
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>>127324549
SYNDEREN WILL NEVER WIN
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>main support
>2-3k bracket
>sea doto
>main support
>meet four other guys like me one day
>we all pick supports
>mfw we rekt the enemy so hard they abandoned
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what is the mosty comfiest hero to play as and why is it techies?

>actually controlling the map while playing at your own pace
>can't be pushed around by teammates into helping them as long as you mine good
>people getting rekt left and right while you're humming somewhere far placing remotes and shit
>pushing a lane all the way to the last tower EZ while they're all fighting on the opposite side
>getting kills when afk while you piss
>inb4 pissbottles
>>
thank mr mod
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>>127324107
>can someone explain to me why LC jungle is bad? isnt it a good thing that you are giving your cores more room to themselves so they can farm and get more xp?

You make your LC position 4 (second lowest farm priority).
You force out solo supports, which
>locks your solo support to babysitting the safelane
>the support can't rotate to gank, secure runes, etc.
>the support can't ward properly since they're glued to the lane
>if the jungling LC goes for any of the pull camps if hurts the safelanes lane equilibrium control, while also giving the solo support even less gold and xp
>solo support will have extremely low gpm and xpm, not only because they can't rotate and get kill, but because they have to buy all support items on their own
>many heroes do not function well as babysitters (CM for example is terrible at it) despite being less farm and xp hungry than most supports
>etc
The jungling LC will not do what actual good junglers like Enigma and Chen do (they're also supports and not core farmers). She will not do anything but farm and then being a far worse pusher/ganker while also not getting utility items like mek (which can force your offlaner or even mid to get it).
She is also far less safe in the jungle than say an Enigma or Chen and if the enemy rotates on her the lone solo support you have will be hard pressed to help both you and the position 1.

Then we also have the fact that LC is an aggressive hero and strong laner. She functions best in in 1v1 offlane, duo offlane or in mid.

You don't win by having more cores than the enemy. If it was that simple then supports wouldn't even exist.
A support is so much more than the hero that buys wards and courier.

This is just scratching the surface as to why heroes like LC are terrible junglers.
People that think it's good do not even have a solid grasp of the basics of the game. They do not understand what each position is supposed to do.
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>>127324630
>play Naix for the first time
>1/10/30
kek
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>>127324808
No its hairy
Also i wont post anymore lewd comments anymore sorry janny-kun, ill continue watching odpixel
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>steak gaming is literally losing to a 4k team right now
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>>127324908
Its better to have 4 heroes that can carry the game instead of 3
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god mod
>>127323119
every single game mang. such is life in the trench
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>>127324107
>>127318265
these are all jungle LC games
the hero is to be played in the jungle and will come online before minute 8 so no essential damage will be done to your team
>>
>slickz pride of australian dota
>dies twice solo to 4k windrunner
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>>127324630
>>what is tanking ganks/smokes
>>what is trading your life for multiple cores + support


yes, for maybe a few deaths.

after 14 times it's literally feeding and bad play. You are still giving gold and exp to enemy heroes, and any game changing spells that you may have are now off the map for a ridiculous amount of time each game. Seriously, if you are dying to smokes like 10 times a game you really need to reconsider how you approach you map awareness, unless you think the only / most efficient way to avoid a smoke is to give an unnecessary amount of kills to the enemy.
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>>127324908
just pick a carry that can solo and still get CS like PA
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>>127324245
>>3+ KDA is feeding

How come I consistently have half your deaths but equal assist and kill count?

14 death is not acceptable on any hero. I say this as someone that has played the game for 3700 as mainly support and offlaner. Yes, even heroes like CM, Rhasta and shit.
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>>127324908
jungle lc is postion 2/1 level of farm you trench reddit retard
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>>127324107
The right answer is actually this: you have to go 0-4-4 instead of maxing q first which is the best build. IT makes LC useless until level 14
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>>127324630
>tfw the meme came true
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>>127325089
>14 death is not acceptable on any hero.
>what is pocket deny
>what is techies
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>>127325116
nah
1 point in PtA and 2 points in MoC are all the sustain that you need
you can and you should max OO at 8 even when jungling
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>>127324945
you was saying?
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>>127325249
pta does nothing for jungling at all. If you put an early point in it you just hindered your jungle speed
>>
>>127325169
lmao whats the source to that shoop
>>
>synderens stack has lost lal there games so far
>have to resort to bullying a 4k tam

L M A O
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>>127325249
no 1 in q is enough for the speed and anti psh
stats are better on LC
>>
>>127324989
>Its better to have 4 heroes that can carry the game instead of 3

Wrong. You do not understand the point of each role and position, as I said.
Each player has a specific job to do.

You have absolutely no understanding of how immensely impactful having 2 supports doing their job properly will achieve. They make sure your 3 cores will have a good start and should have no trouble then using that strong advantage to win.
Using 4 cores is you praying that the enemy is completely buttfuck retarded and that your allies will somehow manage to get things done despite being in a severe disadvantage.

But really I have been trying to teach you people this for years, so I see no point in wasting anymore of my time on people adamant about being shit.
>>
how do i get gud?

i stuck at 3.8-4k mmr for 3 months now
>>
>>127325296
PtA is only leveled because its a great value point, i also noticed that it does wonders when contesting runes
>>
>>127324107
Because you should always assume that whoever you are playing with cannot handle their own lane. You can't carry from the jungle with LC like you can with BS.
>>
>>127325180
>>14 death is not acceptable on any hero.
>>what is pocket deny
>>what is techies

You should not be dying that much even if you can deny yourself. Denying yourself should add 3-4 deaths tops realistically. This means that you will already have died like 10 times already.

You should hover around 8 deaths tops as a competent support. Anymore than that and you're feeding.
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>>127325381
jungle LC
>>
>>127325372
We have people who think they should be 5k here and are not only because solo mmr is not real mmr party mmr is! xD or they are not really trying and playing the game for fun that's why they are 3k! Are you surprised?
>>
>>127324235
whats butter faces
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holy shit odpixeldick slept with sheever
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>>127302941
>>127302860

DK is fine get good

Nothing wrong with a lane winning mid with lmao 12 regen that is tanky as shit, has long disables, pushes well and has a monstrous lategame

Y'all motherfuckers need to git gud
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>>127325000
Your lanes will be lost by then. Ten minute rational death ball is the new meme.
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>>127325381
forgot the pic
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>>127325552
Source or get out
>>
>>127325103
>jungle lc is postion 2/1 level of farm you trench reddit retard

So your safelane farmer and mid now suddenly have less farm priority for some magical reason despite getting better gpm and xpm in their lanes?
So what position is your mid then? Position 4? Or is your safelanes the position 4? Or is your Timber or w/e the position 4?
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how viable is PA for the 3k->4k voyage?

i've been trying her in unranked, bretty good winrate but i may have just got lucky
>>
a reminder that people who dont think LC jungle is good are just incapable of dealing with change and dont understand that dota evolves from patch to patch
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Just a quick reminder guys. Sometimes its not your fault. It usually is though.
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>>127325552
Provide proof.
>>
>>127325571
>playing mirana

There's your problem
>>
How do I jungle LC? Iron Talon?
>>
>>127325703
iron talon tangos 0-4-4 get a point in duel when you can
>>
>>127325479
>You should not be dying that much even if you can deny yourself.
>if you are about to get the 9th death you should just let the enemy get gold and experience
>if you are about to get the 9th death you shouldn't blow yourself up to set up a team wipe
>if you are about to get the 9th death you shouldn't blow yourself up whenever the opportunity arises
>techies
>not getting bloodstone
>2016
>>
>>127325493
>whats butter faces

A girl that is attractive, but for her face. But her face. Butter face.
>>
>>127325703
Iron talon+tangos, cry when all your camps get blocked and you get ganked, tilt and hope you get carried.
>>
>>127325750
>being this thick

You can't be older than 16.
>>
How the fuck do I join my friends custom game lobby? Theres only one button to play and another to create a lobby.
>>
>>127325690
But why?
Mirana is a good hero.
>>
>>127325926
>friends

dont lie anon
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>>127325703
yes
iron talon tangos
minute 7 blink into G_G
>>
>>127325703
>How do I jungle LC? Iron Talon?

No and no.
>>
>>127325931
not in the position you're trying to play it in
>>
So, after ranking up nicely with my alt i went back to my main account, that i had suffered an unfortunate combination of bad luck and self loathing and hit a rank spiral.

So, my main steam account is at rank 700 and honestly games are tiresome at that rank, everyone plays selfishly and if i don't pick support, nobody else does. How the hell do i get my main account back up to a decent MMR?
>>
>>127326020
Pick CK or something and carry yourself out. It's easy as shit.
>>
>>127325954
Alright FINE but how do I join a locked custom lobby if i have the password
>>
>>127325703
>How do I jungle LC? Iron Talon?

You should not listen to the bad players trying to teach you shit things. Even if you go on pure numbers then jungle LC has not only the worst winrate, but the lower gpm and xpm. Just check Dotabuff.

If you team ever gets mad at you then you rightfully deserve it, 100%.
>>
>>127325916
No u

Feeding is a simple issue of giving the other side some advantage from your death. You aren't rendered useless if you're dead when you're techies, and you shouldn't die without dishing some damage before you do. Also, with enough charges on BS you get back pretty fast so the disadvantages of your traditional death is nullified. Therefore not feeding.

You seem to be concerned more about pure numbers and absolutes.
>>
>>127326131
delete dota noob
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>>127325931
>mirana is a good hero
not in pubs anyway

>>127325983
If you're just going to afk jungle until you get a blink and then gank is there some reason for not taking Axe instead?
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>>127326236
yes axe is bad LC is sleeper OP
but you have to jungle her and be good at it
>>
should i play dota today?
>>
>>127326378
idk
>>
>>127325931
Bad core due to bad stat gain
Awful 'roaming support' unless you're a god of hitting arrows
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>>127326378
Don't play dota on the weekend.
>>
>>127326350
why are you talon jungling silencer?
>>
memes
>>
>27 of my last 30 games have been losses

Is this the week I die?
Is there a meaning to all this?
What is dota?
>>
im trying to get into this game by autistically maining juggernaut

nothing but losses thus far

i want to die
>>
>>127326509
talon goes on every jungler
>>
>>127326531
>losing as Juggernaut
You are doing it wrong nigga
>>
>>127326523
Its time to finally finish that list of unplayed heroes anon. Your perfect match was hiding from you all along and now is the time.

Or I don't fucking know. Take a break.

>>127326531
You need to identify why you lose consistently.
>>
>>127326531
>losing with the best hero in the game

?
>>
>>127326201
>You seem to be concerned more about pure numbers and absolutes.

I'm concerned about not dying an excessive amount of time and then handwave all the time, gpm and xpm you gave away because you got some assists.

Stop fucking trying to defend you feeding with "but i'm support" and get fucking better at the game. Dying 14 or more times is not fucking mandatory, nor should it be norm. It IS an excessive amount of kills.
>>
>>127326678
i guess it's because i can't farm for shit

i always impulsively tp in to defend towers and try to fight when my team is defending highground

i also don't really know if battlefury jugg is legit but i've been playing it
>>
>>127325648
Spoiler that shit
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>tfw you'll never be as based as James
>>
>>127326015
>>127326473
I'm playing offlane only and still can't understand why Mirana is bad.
But maybe you are right.

I will start learning phoenix now.
>>
the issue with jungling is that you will lose every time to duo offlane, or an enemy roaming duo that kills your mid and safelane a few times
>>
>>127326205
1V1 me mid idiot
>>
>>127326659
>>127326679
thats why im frustrated

everyone tells me the hero is easy
>>
whos watching odmeme casting steak gaming? its actually pretty funny
>>
>>127326847
But, its comfy
>>
>>127326883
not sure what sheever sees in him desu
>>
>>127326473
>Bad core due to bad stat gain

Fucking what? Not many heroes have 3.3 Agi gain. Only heroes with higher Agi gain is Clinkz and Morph. Her Str gain is average.
>>
>>127326883
Sup reddit
>>
>>127326773
>muh gpm muh xpm
>muh stats
So you're the shitter who prefers numbers to winning.
>It IS an excessive amount of kills.
>he still thinks denying is feeding
>he still thinks the standard rules of death applies to heroes that can kill themselves
>he still thinks the standard rules of death applies to techies.
>>
>>127326949
Shes into shota
>>
>>127326146
How do I long lane LC then?
>>
>>127327087
I hope shota means "fucking massive head" in japanese
>>
>>127326378
You should never play dota.
>>
>>127327087
OD is 10 years too old to be a shota
>>
>>127326854
I'll rekt you
>>
>>127326782
Bfury jugg is legit, but its not for every game.
The important thing about bfury is its an item that boosts your farming rate. If you are going it early its because you want to outfarm their cores, skip it if you think its a lineup you'll be fighting a lot early. Jugg fights really well nice and early with just a couple items and you need to get a feel for which games are bfury games and which ones are not. I wish I could give you more info on making that decision but I'm not really a jugg player, I enjoy roaming/support more.
>>
>>127325703
DON'T
>>
>>127323084
Pick Pudge, you can still savage this shit
>>
>>127326814
Suffering
>>
>>127322551
Play OSU!
>>
bloodseeker is shit now

is ice frog's objective to take away as many passives as possible and increase cooperation in teams? it just turn heroes to shit.
>>
>>127326786
Fag
>>
>>127327479
Take advantage of that iron talon, go jungle. 60% max health damage ez
>>
>>127309507

To disable buyback sure

I love that silver edge dagon necro can literally murder a lategame full hp spectre and lock her out of memebackbuyback

The cure is worse than the contagion
>>
>>127327249
how do you build fighter jugg?

phase > mom > sny?
>>
>>
>>127326903
>>127326903
>>127326903
New Thread
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>>127327195
But he's a manlet and can play the role
>>
>>127317778

Your ult is legitimately one of the strongest most impactful ults in the entire game, but you're vulnerable to interrupts and getting bursted

So you initiate gingerly from the edge of fights with a nova and frost bite to let your team run in, pick your moment, bkb and/or glimmer and blink into the middle of the enemy team and ult.

Done right, you're a murder machine

Heroes like Magnus will disable the enemy team to let your team kill them

CM just straight up wins the fight herself with a well placed ulti
>>
>>127327580
Ya I think so, although I prefer dominator so MoM since I like to use the creep's abilities.
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