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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final announced
http://megaten4f.jp/

>More information about Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final
http://pastebin.com/q4FbNVCd

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/Np1ng1kx

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>Previous Thread
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Is it safe to post here?
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>>127228652
Ye
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I, the just and merciful YHVH dictate that you must each purchase Genei Ibun Roku #FE.
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>>127226503
Neutral > Law (non-hivemind edition) > Chaos > Law (hivemind edition) > White
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>>127229367
Nice try, fake YHVH.
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>>127229367
Put it on the N3DS and I'll consider it.

It's barely worth buying on its own, much less buying a console to play it on.
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>>127229656
This. But put in on O3DS so I don't have to buy a new one.
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>>127210386
>You mean those dungeons full of dead ends, labyrinthine corridors, high encounter rate and the random battles were braindead easy with 90% of the chests being shit you don't need or that aren't worth the time?
Wow you just described SMT 1&2 dungeons.

>but the dungeon designs in IS are the worst in the Persona games.
They arent, they are the best. Random shit is the most brainless way to do dungeons that only fits for those games were you are supposed to die a lot.

They were designed that way just like any old school SMT, this general surprise then again i have heard people bitching at DDS dungeon or SJ dungeons.

pls go back to /pg/ and stay there.
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>>127229864
He's right though. You could literally auto-battle your way through IS and the only interesting dungeon was the cave.

The story made up for it though.

In terms on dungeon design, P4 has the edge in its subseries. Not that this says much.
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>>127230139
>You could literally auto-battle your way through IS
Just like SMt 1&2? Whoa.


>P4 has the edge in its subseries
>Not P1

Okay now go back to /pg/ to waifutalk if you dont care about dungeon crawling.
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>>127230260
I care about dungeon crawling, which is why I say P2's suck. SMT1's weren't anything great either.

Nocturne had the best dungeons by a huge margin.

Also, not that guy.
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>>127229864
>Comparing a PS1 dungeon with rudimentary dungeons of SMTI and II
Can't you fucking see the problem? They took a step back for the dungeon from P1 to P2 and when back to barebones dungeon designs.

>They arent, they are the best. Random shit is the most brainless way to do dungeons that only fits for those games were you are supposed to die a lot.
They ARE the worst. Literally the only Persona with good dungeon design is the first one.

>bitching at DDS dungeon or SJ dungeons.
DDS and SJ are infinitely better dungeons than P2 and they are a lot better than P1's too.

>pls go back to /pg/ and stay there.
Why the fuck would I go there, you retard? Can't you argue like a man instead of crying and trying to make the problem go away?

Honestly, considering the quality of the gameplay and the dungeon designs in P2, it would be just better that Atlus had made IS and EP a VN, since the story, music and characters are the only good things about P2. and the spritework too.
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>>127228982
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Anyone there know good strat for Satan on DDS2? I had no problem with Hitoshura and the majority of SMT superbosses but Satan i can't kill no matter how many 999 i store.

I don't wanna resort to that 3 turn kill luck based strat... Resetting on Open Loader isn't a easy thing to do (an error on the necessary timing and i have to wait 5 minutes to load the game again).
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>>127229512
Fate levels don't really matter that much in Tri-Arc, if you got max before.
The condition for the endings is doing all events for the respective characters I think.
That said considering the Alcor edning was something that I thought would have been cool in DeSu2 was honestly kinda mediocre.
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>>127231769
Might have something to do with Alcor being boring as fuck, Miyako trying to steal the spotlight, and Yamato being a huge cuck pussy.
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somebody stream
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>>127232707
/pingx_tw
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>>127233175
pls no
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On NG+
Kill or no kill?
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>>127233550
No kill. Fuck the Ashura-Kai
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>>127233550

kill
It's a world of str after all, whiny hypocrite has no right complaining
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>>127235520
>SMT IV
>STR

World of LUK or git out
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>>127235520
>Chaosfags
>picking strength in SMTIV
Son of Man do you even physical/gun skill
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>>127210963
I have no idea of what's going on in the right side, but I'm loving this image for all the crazy and insane implications that it makes.
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Look what I found.
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>>127237096
>ロリコンサマナー葛葉ライドウ
>Raidou Kuzunoha, Lolicon Summoner
I'll say.
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>>127231021
I agree a 100% with you anon. You have my vote.
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>>127241118
I wonder how big Edgy-kuns Mara will be.
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>>127241218
>non canon bitch stealing Devil Summoner Mara
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>>127242586
Someone post the edit with Nyarly, Tatsuya and Maya; you must know which one.
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>>127242764
You know, i actually find this stupid frog funny. I wish we had more.
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I just found out something interesting.

Search "anime" in Google images, and post the first result.
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Has this general finally broken from being dead all the time?
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>>127242827
>>127243016
No, we're just bored and posting dank memes
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>>127243016
We're not truly coming back until FINAL.
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>>127243082
I don't mean that we've come back. I mean we've regressed into just posting meme images to keep the place alive.
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>>127243072
Well, let's switch back to game discussion then. I just made it to the protag's double in Alaya Cavern in P1. How close am I to beating the game (or the SEBEC route at least)?
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>>127242893
y-you too
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>>127243016
Just having fun.
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>>127243343
nobodys played p1 lol :)
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>>127243343
But anon, I had so many memes to spare.
Ok, I stopped. And you're really close.
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>>127243501
Not in my general, fucker.
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>>127242893
what is this shit
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>>127243640
Sorry
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>>127243626
Thanks. I figured as much. I don't get why people shittalk P1. I've actually enjoyed the dungeons, battle system, and cast.
>>127243593
Back to /pg/, friend.
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>>127242880
Thanks.

I don't like what these two memes ended up becoming, but this edit in particular is just perfect.
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>>127243767
>Sento
unf
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I had Alcor at Fate 5, where the fuck was he in the Triangulum ending?
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>>127245148
>caring about a big tiddy slut
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>>127245148
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>>127245232
Don't be such a low-test anon
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>>127245350
who is this cum plum?
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>>127245701
Japanese 50 cent.
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>>127245210
Nevermind, he appeared after the credits.
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>>127245210
Did you also have Yamato and Miyako at 5? Did you wait until after the credits?
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>>127245701
Sento.
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>>127245701
Fiddy Cent in the body of a sexually gifted high school girl
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Well, /smtg/?
Is this okay?
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>>127246208
>body of a sexually gifted high school girl

You're not wrong.

My word, a man would kill to have that girl for themselves.
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>>127243767
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>>127246363
My basketball brother of african descent
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>>127246352
hey, it's my childhood freinds, Holla Atme and Pimpin Hat, Man
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SMT X Spiral Knights

One is with Sega, other is with Sammy.

Combine Zelda-esque game play with demons.

World of LUK with Pulsar.

that thread on /v/ brought back raw memories
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ONE
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#FE
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>>127249117
no
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>>127219238
OR here, I love it. Thank you drawanon if you're in this thread
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>>127219238
>Aight, I'm good for another quick one pls
Can't believe I missed that first time I read the post. Missed my chance.
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YHVH heard my prayers and my PC was brought back to life somehow. (>>126912942)

Maybe now I'll finally finish that shit. Happy new year /smtg/. May IV-Final be good, better than we expect it to be.
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Santa Claus as a recruitable demon when?
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http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/24/the-invisible-nation-reconciling-utilitarianism-and-contractualism/

Lawfags in a nutshell.
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>>127252262
We already have Odin
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What's the consensus on the Majin Tensei games? Better or worse SRPGs that Devil Survivor?
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Don't die fuck
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Wake up. It's the middle of the fucking day you filthy NEETs.
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Marry us, we can keep one another on life support.
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>>127258832
Gross.
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>>127258962
C-can't you reconsider?
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>>127259184
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>>127258832
I need more of these Demi-Fiends using normal clothes.
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Post Jacks.
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Which games have instant game overs when the protagonist dies?
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Some of you guys are alright, go to the Shinjuku medical center tomorrow.
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>>127261359
Every SMT except IV.
Every Devil Summoner.
Every Persona after 2.
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>>127262051
>Every SMT except IV.

This feels wrong.
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>>127262427
Well SMT 1 and I think 2 had if every human died it was game over.
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>>127262051
Thanks
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>>127262051
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Devil Survivor Series doesn't have Insta Game Overs as well.

And btw SMT2 you could die if you mother was still alive.

I didn't had the interest about the other SNES era games even tough i liked SMT2.
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>Go on the /v/ SMT thread
>People crying about SJW's
>People saying Nocturne killed SMT and that it had no story
>People calling SJ a hipster game
>People defending Persona 4
>People shitting on Dicks

Worse than Youtube comments.
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>>127264635
I hate to say it, but #FE killed good SMT threads on /v/. The only exception to bad threads there since April were around Final's announcement.
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>>127264635
>Going to /v/
Don't.
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>>127264896
After what i saw, i am done with that board. I will only shitpost there.

>>127264870
SMT threads never lasted long in /v/ but Persona threads were fun.
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>>127265240
/v/ is fine if you don't expect anything good from there. atleast its better than rebbit
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How would /smtg/-tan look lie.
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>>127266407
I wish we had an /smtg/-tan.
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>>127266407
>look lie
Fucking Autocorrect.
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>>127266407
Well he'd have a COMP, that much is certain.
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>>127267368
>he
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>>127267408
Maybe two /smtg/-tans. A male demonfucker and a female fujoshi.
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>>127267408
/smtg/-tan is a futanari girl.
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The real question: what would their alignment be?
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>>127267609
This nigga gets it.
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What if /smtg/-tan is just Canned Cow.
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If /smtg/-tan is female then she has to have ZR like a proper heroine.
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>>127264635

>Go on the SMT thread
>one or two shitposters, some people taking the bait
>lots of praise for Nocturne's gameplay, music

every time
this >/vg/-is-so-much-better-than-/v/ meme is getting boring
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>>127267408
be]]]]
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he looka like a man
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>>127268998
Are you okay anon?
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>>127268998
>>127269070
Made me laugh
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>>127269070
I'm typing in the dark
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>>127266570
No, I don't think you really do.
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>>127271374
>Not wanting to distill all the cringey aspects of the general into a character for a good laugh
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>>127264635
>People calling SJ a hipster game

But this is true.
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>>126661448
>god forbid SMTG ever become the kind to dismiss SMT1 or 2.

Some people are already trying to push this.
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Anyone finished a Wizardry? What should someone expect from them, aside from pain?
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>>127272674
Who? Every time someone admits they haven't played them they at least say they plan on it.
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>>127272893
Some fag(s) earlier last month.
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>>127272615
SJ is for contrarians, not hipsters. Learn the difference.
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>>127273325
What is the difference?

Also, besides co-op and getting demon sources being annoying, what was wrong with SJ? The dungeon designs were great.
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I ship Demi Fiend with Pixie, it's the cutest shit ever.
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>>127273501
>SJ dungeons
>good

This meme has to stop.
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>>127274351
This meme is here to stay.
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>>127274446
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>>127274351
Bad meme.
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>>127274520
I'll protect the memes. Even if it costs me my life.
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>>127274446
>>127274971
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What's the prevailing stat in SMT IV? STR or MAG?
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>>127277197
MAG is pretty broken. If you want to go physical use DEX instead of STR since it's shit in IV.
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>>127277318
Final will fix STR, I can feel it in my bones
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>>127277318
MAG it is.

How do I turn the voice acting off by the way?
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>>127277467
Did you get Burroughs yet? It's in the options iirc.
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>>127277467
>Turning off Monkey-chan's voice
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>>127277467
>>127277656
Oh, but you should give the voices a chance. There's some funny moments that sound pun intended better with voice acting on
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0-5 kill self
6 tde
7 dds 2
8-9 become the sideburns
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>>127277985
To the shadow realm I go.
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>>127277985
pls don't
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SMT x The Twilight Zone
Watching the New Years marathon and wishing an episode where some dumb fuck got sent a demon summoning program existed. THe original series is too old though.
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>>127277985
I'll reroll for your sake.
0-4 kill self
5 tde
6 dds2
7-9 become the sideburns
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>>127281145
Komaeda wins again.
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>>127281307
Pic related happened in a /pg/ thread several months ago. It was hype.
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>>127281409
Kek
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>>127277985
See you in Gensokyo.
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I just entered the Reverse Hills in SMT IV and I'm level 44 or 45 I don't remember. Am I underleveled? I'm doing well in fights but I just feel like i've progressed too quickly.
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>>127277985
Stream it
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>>127282597
You are ok, don't worry anon.
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>>127282597
Sounds about right.
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>>127282597
You're probably fine.
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>>127282597
I can't remember what I was at that point, but it shouldn't be a problem if you're doing well in fights.

The dungeon isn't difficult at all, too.
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>>127268439
>hurr dur, but /vg/ is a containment board for circlejerking and tripfags
>le cherry picked /smtg/ mass group masturbation.jpg
>you only like SMT because you are an edgy fedorafag!
I'm getting fed up with that board and the general 4chan attitude of shitposting and baiting on default.

You guys and /trv/ are surprisingly ok, but I think I'm growing out of this site.

/blog
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>>127266407
Just like this.
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>>127284609
That's just the FeMC from SMTIF with little modifications.
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>>127284609
She's too cute to be /smtg/.
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>>127273978
I agree.
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>>127285147
Deep down, /smtg/ is a qt.
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>>127285508
Her little dick is cute.
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>>127284609
That's wrong. /smtg/-tan wears a demonica (with no helmet) has Isabeau haircut, has the demi-fiends tats and has a smt 1 COMP monocle.
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>>127286279
>wanting the haircut of a monkey
I can give you a free pass for everything else, but this is just wrong.
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>>127286530
/smtg/-tan shouldn't be cute so I think anon might be onto something.
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SMTxDoA
I would play the shit out of this desu senpai.
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>>127272615
Hipsters love the first megami tensei game the most.
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Just beat nocturne
0-4 play Raidou 1 and swing my sword around
5-9 play Devil Survivor, time for more anime teenager antics
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SMT x S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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>>127287635
really just want an SMT FPS in general
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>>127287635
SMT x Killing Floor.
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>>127272615
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SMT x Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
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SMT X Jet Set Radio.
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SMT x Disgaea
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So how do magatama levels in nocturne work?
I have been sticking with the default one because I want to learn counter but it seems to be taking a while.
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>>127288434
switch to the ice one pronto, you need to level it to unlock fog breath which will carry you the entire game, counter isn't worth it
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SMT x Fire Emblem
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>>127288523
I was gonna get fog breath after I got counter.
I mean I must be close by now.
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>>127288646
It'll never work.
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>>127265525
>/v/ is fine
no
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>>127288994
were else can i talk about relatively obscure games i don't know about yet?? /v/s AAA taste is garbage though
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>>127289116
>PC WHEN?!
>this game is shit fucking hipsters weebs lol
>PC WHEN?!
Good luck with that.
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>>127288946
neither will I
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>>127284380
The less people that post, the better the board.
Look at /m/ for example, one of the comfiest boards.
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Is Nakajima the biggest cuck in SMT history?
>Summon a Demon
>He rapes your soul mate
>Try to fight him
>Almost die
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ON THE NAME OF GOD
I WILL NOT CRACK
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>>127292382
Literally me.
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>>127292382
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>>127292382
sauce?
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>>127292495
idk, it was on Twitter
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>>127292495
One Punch Man.
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>>127249305
im glad you like it

>>127249523
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/3/34/Jax.move1.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20121127045836


Alright

which one do I draw tonight /smtg/
Xi Wangmu, Hua Po, Ame no Uzume or Nekomata
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>>127292725
Edits or real?
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>>127293116
Draw Ame no Uzume.
Do /smtg/-tan from >>127286279 but with no Isabeau haircut.
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>>127293116
Hua Po please.
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>>127293148
Edited. In the real one he shit talks the heroes who failed to beat a guy. He might be pathetic looking but he's correct in the show and the edit.poiler]
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>>127293116
Nekomata
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>>127293116
Ms. Kowashitai begging for gigs
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>>127293215
>>127293221
>>127293116
doing all of those (ame, hua and neko)

lewd or not i dont mind, as long as its not autistic (futa, piss, diaper, etc)

>>127294223
except that its not in the choices
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>>127296953
Will you do /smtg/-tan?
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>>127297038
maybe later, but I'd rather do the demons first.

just describe me what you wanted with ame
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>>127296953
>No futa
Go fuck yourself.
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>>127288434
Look on the magatama menu, if a magatama is pulsating/flashing it is ready to learn a move
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>>127297208
Feet.
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>>127297967
you got it, gimme a bit
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>>127297208
Draw hua po playing with a ball, not lewd pls.
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Can anyone post the Strange Journey huge map? I forgot what's it's called
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>>127297341
can someone explain the flower field meme?
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>>127298437
there is nothing to explain
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>>127296953
You have good taste. The internet needs more artists like you.
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How does Raidou compare to Dante battle-wise in Nocturne?
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>>127300547
He has Pierce while Dante doesn't.
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Dude, let me change Megidolaon for Gram slice
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>>127300547
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt8Vui8ikh8
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>>127300775
Damn. Enough said, I guess.
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>>127301010
Raidou is so cool.
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>>127301010
It still really bites me how Raidou is literally in the story of Nocturne, and they took him out for Dante. It seems like such an important part of canon.
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>>127301393
uhhhh...
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>>127301010
Why does that guy have 5 turns?
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>>127301393
The hell are you talking about? Dante was the first guest. Raidou was added in the Maniax Chronicle edition.
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>>127301010
Why hasn't someone replaced the text with english yet?
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>>127299759
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>>127301587
>>127301648
wait the story I heard was that they removed Raidou for Dante because they thought Raidou wouldn't be recognizable to a western audience.
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>>127301816

Raidou didn't even exist when Nocturne Dante Edition came out.

>>127301609

The game gives you an extra press turn if you finish all the Amala boss refight things under a certain number of turns.
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what should i focus on

eo1
desu 1
class of heroes 1

no remakes
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>>127301816
You fucking retard, this >>127301989
and Dante came in the Maniax edition, which is what we got, and it was Atlus asking Capcom to borrow him since he'd fit well in the Nocturne universe.
Raidou came in Maniax+
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>>127301753
Cuz cats doesn't speak english.
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>>127301753
I was working on it, but this >>127302147 asshole pissed me off. Subs fucking deleted.
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>>127302109
eo1
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>>127302109
>Vanilla DeSu
>No demon compendium

I don't think I could ever go back to that after Overclocked.
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>>127302278
k

I want to restart, but I'm only at the wolves so there isn't much of a point.

>>127302363
I'm used to not having one. But that's why I want to play vanilla first.
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Was Jonathan a fag?
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It still really bites me how Dante is literally in the story of Nocturne, and they took him out for Raidou. It seems like such an important part of canon.
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>>127302109
Class of Heroes is pretty awful, so not that.
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>>127302920
you fucking retard, Dante didn't even exist before Nocturne.
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>>127287536
>Raidou 1

Why would you want to torture yourself?
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>>127303298
I stole it and have physicals of the other two.
I also want to play SFC Wizardry because I guess I hate myself.
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>>127303815
whats wrong with raidou 1
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>>127304798
The combat is pretty arduous, and there is a lot of it, but he was just be hyperbolic
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>>127308889
Glad this shite bombed.
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>>127311006
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>>127308889
>>127311006
>>127311330
Let's not make this a thing. Please fuck off.
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>>127311576
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>>127305675
There's no hyperbole in saying that Raidou 1's gameplay is garbage.
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>>127288417
But we already had DeSu 2.
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>>127302109
>eo1
>Broken mess
>desu 1
>No Compendium and lacks a great number of skills and demons
>class of heroes 1
>Shit
Go for EO.

>>127304216
>I stole it and have physicals of the other two.
I wouldn't play them anyway. I pirated them on the PSP and I want all those hours back. They're simply not worth it.
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>>127297406
Do I just keep it equipped until I it starts pulsing or am I supposed to swap them out constantly?
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>>127264635
But nocturne did kill smt. It ruined its chances to have interesting new story content by failing so hard that now no one even tries. SK and IV both had less story than II or arguably even I, but with more cutscenes.
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>>127302119
He honestly fits horribly in the nocturne universe. His job is to protect the world. Why would he be acting this casual about it ending? And you can only get him on the demon end (unless you only finish most of the dungeon for some reason). His job is literally protecting humans from demons.
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>>127316168
>But nocturne did kill smt.
While I understand what you're pointing out, Nocturne had a very interesting world and atmosphere. Just for that, the game is awesome and saves it from killing SMT.
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>>127316486
>expect lewd hand holding
>it's just gay porn
Dodged a bullet there.
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>>127316765
Its atmosphere came off like it was a good idea, but executed lazily. The sides came off like random demon thrown on randomly. I can believe that a group of angels are pseudo-chaos now, but the demons working with hikawa looked like they were chosen at random. And throwing the important angels on yosuga just seemed odd. Especially since yosuga called kagutsuchi an arrogant god, too. Which makes no sense unless the implication is that they are rogue angels. But then is metatron not rogue? Who does metatron side with? Does he care, as long as the world is remade?
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>>127317909
Yeah, I won't deny what you said. Everything looked somewhat confusing for those that are more into the SMT. Personally, since it was my first SMT, it didn't look so bad. I'd bet it was due to the budget or something. It was their first time handling the PS2 after all.
Still, a lot of the core story/plot elements were extremely interesting. The execution was lacking though.
I'd bet a remake not a port of Nocturne would fix a lot of stuff that's wrong.
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hi smtg i'm sorry i neglect you, you're all great. i used to come here a lot more but i got demotivated.
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Sigh... I miss these guys
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>>127320178
>i got demotivated.
I can sympathize. Sometimes /smtg/ makes me feel like shit because everyone keeps bitching that game X or Y or Z sucks. Heck, it almost sounds like no one likes SMT games here, except me.
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>>127320364
I just have a severe lack of gud it makes me feel fucking trash. Gale is best character but I get constantly roadblocked in digital devil saga 1. Currently up to the lupa fight I think. I just wish I knew the like 'average' level to be doing some of the content is.
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>>127320178
I tend to disappear for months and then come back. I'm currently in 4 generals. It's hard to keep up.
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>>127320178
I only come here when I am playing the games.
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>>127320658
i used to spend like 18hrs/day in generals then i suddenly just lost all motivation to do anything. a lot of the generals i used to go to were just full of circlejerking or negativity.

>>127320697
i'm trying to work up to getting back into dds. what game are you playing currently?
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>>127320857
Nocturne.
I was just starting raidou 2 not too long ago and my harddrive died.
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>>127320857
>a lot of the generals i used to go to were just full of circlejerking or negativity.
I agree but then again, if I had a better place to discuss the games I like I wouldn't be here so there's that.
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>>127320934
i hope you're enjoying it. have you beaten matador yet? i have been meaning to try it but i heard it's difficult so i have been putting it off until i finish the smts i currently have and persona 4

>>127320971
that's the thing though, most generals don't even discuss their games anymore. this is one of the only generals ive found comfortable. even if there was a better place, i doubt i could adapt. i've been on 4chan since the beginning, the whole interface just feels right to me, i wouldn't last a second on a forum.
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>>127321201
I know. I don't feel right anywhere else either. Well, sucks to be us anon. Stay strong a hold on!
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>>127321998
at least we'll always have each other. i wish i could contribute more to the thread but as i said im awful at dds.
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>>127320658
I'm just in two - this place and Bloodborne general. Between these two places, the atmosphere's chill as fuck.
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>>127321201
Matador was pretty tough because the only buff/debuff I really had was war cry.
I keep failing recruitments then being forced to fuse good demons together.
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>>127320606
>I just have a severe lack of gud
It's only a matter of playing more SMT and RPGs in general anon. I remember when I first played Nocturne it was hard as fuck.

>>127320658
/smtg/ was my general and the other ones I go to are nearly ded, ded or simply slow s fuck.

>>127321201
>>127321998
Count me in too. Been on 4chan for 10 or 11 years now. The interface is just right, specially nowadays. I seriously can't leave here and discuss whatever in a forum.
And I also like to think that we're friends, at least in this general. So I can't leave my friends.
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>>127320606
I don't think levels matter at all in SMT.
Spells are where it's at.
I don't use Argilla for that reason.
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>>127322314
i left bbg when the dlc came out because i can't play it. now my ps4 just collects dust sadly.
>>127322335
it's just infuriating to feel close to victory then die to crits or something dumb like that.
>>127322531
isnt she supposed to be the healer though? it's been a while since i played.
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>>127322531
>I don't use Argilla for that reason.
Why not? I used her and Gale and never had any problem in DDS1.

>>127322637
>it's just infuriating to feel close to victory then die to crits or something dumb like that.
There's a passive that reduces chances of getting crited in the physical/hunt branch.

>isnt she supposed to be the healer though? it's been a while since i played.
Yeah, kind of. you can make whoever you want your healer though. She has high MA and LU and reasonable AG and VI.
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>>127322863
She gets less karma than other characters. Heat gets less exp too.
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>>127322934
>She gets less karma than other characters. Heat gets less exp too.
Seriously? I never noticed that, outside of the beginning where she doesn't get karma. Is that stated somewhere?
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>>127322335
>I like to think we're friends
Man I want to have a skype group for /smtg/ but then the thread would truly become dead.
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>>127323064
You should have noticed if you were paying attention.
Even if you don't notice just because you probably have Argilla on different paths than other people, heat should be 2-3 levels below everyone else.
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>>127323154
i'd join it but i'm a subhuman australian.
>>127323189
who even uses heat immediately after getting gale anyways?
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>>127323154
>Man I want to have a skype group for /smtg/
B-but I'm too shy, anon.

>>127323189
Yeah, my Argilla usually was always changing paths healing, zan, mudo, hama unlike my Serph and Gale, so maybe that's why I never noticed. I never used Heat in DDS1 though.
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>>127323221
I wouldn't mind creating a skype group and just leave my id for anons to add if they wanted to join but as I said in the previous post I'm just scared it kills the thread because people will talk in skype instead of here.

>>127323292
I'll help you become bolder anon!
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>>127323425
>I'll help you become bolder anon!
That came out sounding lewd, though.
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>>127323425
for sure. i'm not good at holding conversations anyways. depressingly five minutes of talking on skype would be more words than 2 hours here.
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>>127323512
Maybe you have a lewd mind!

>>127323513
I doubt we're all much more than spergs but I'm still sure we'd manage our own talking about what we like with people who like it as well!
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>>127323154
>not Tox instead.
skype is pleb tier desu
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>>127323608
>Maybe you have a lewd mind!
Actually, I do.

>I doubt we're all much more than spergs but I'm still sure we'd manage our own talking about what we like with people who like it as well!
But we already have this general for that, though.
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>>127323659
I have no idea what Tox is. Maybe I am the pleb.

>>127323681
>Actually, I do.
I knew it.

>But we already have this general for that, though.
Suppose you're right.
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>>127323659
the fuck is tox

>>127323608
i used to be pretty self-conscious about how socially retarded i am but i was reminded lately there are worse people in the world.

also gale because why the fuck not
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>>127323767
>>127323775
tox.chat

better sykpe sort of thing basically, android and ios version in the works.

/g/ made it. its one of their few successful projects.
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>>127323767
Let's remain in this general for now, anon. Maybe one day if 4chan is on the brink of shutting down we'll join up.

>>127323775
My main problem is that I suck at talking english. And I'm too shy to actually practice it with online games or chats or whatever.
>>
I just want you to know that every time a general I went to has made its own chat it kicked up a shitstorm. Probably not the best idea if any of you are still considering it.
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>>127324310
This. You faggots are on the brink of the conception.
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>>127323887
fair enough. id try ti out if i felt the need to.

>>127324037
god gale is best character. really makes me need to play more. whats your native language friend?
>>127324310
>>127324343
we're just fantasizing, very unlikely to follow through.
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>>127324310
Like I said:>>127324037
>Let's remain in this general for now, anon. Maybe one day if 4chan is on the brink of shutting down we'll join up.
It's just a matter of what Hiroshima intends to do with 4chan.
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>>127324474
>god gale is best character. really makes me need to play more. whats your native language friend?
My favorite character too. Love his design.
Portuguese
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>>127324310
>>127323154
>Man I want to have a skype group for /smtg/ but then the thread would truly become dead.

Anon, I said I knew it was a bad idea from the start.
Are you from /vp/?

>>127324673
Podias praticar comigo se necessário ;^)
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>>127324529
most of all these presidential candidates want to destroy Internet anonymity and freedom, and hiroshimoot won't care enough to fight them on it.

we have a few years at best :/
only the supreme court actually doing its job and telling congress/president to fuck off can save us
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>>127324749
Every single time man.
Obrigado pela oferta, mas mesmo assim tenho ganhar é tomates para começar a praticar. E sempre que eu quis me meter num curso de inglês para melhorar a minha fala acontece sempre alguma cena e já não consigo ir. Enfim.

>>127324791
What? Really? Oh, shit. That doesn't bode well for 4chan's future.
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>>127320202
I'd kill for a new devil summoner anything. Be it raidou time or ds/sh time.
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>>127324749
>Are you from /vp/?
And /feg/. And some other generals.
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>>127324673
how do you say butterfly? can you vocaroo it or something? also more gale pls i beg you.
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>>127325051
>how do you say butterfly? can you vocaroo it or something?
Wha? But-her-flai, right? I'm too shy anon.
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>>127325238
i meant in portugese, my bad. stop being shy, i'll say something for you too.
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>>127324927
Melhorei a fala bastante quando comecei a falar com estrangeiros. É estranho de inicio mas habituas-te rapidamente. Boa sorte!

>>127325048
Hi neighbour.

>>127325238
Get used to saying specific words because "portuguese accent is so fun"
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>>127325292
>i meant in portugese, my bad
I suck at saying it in portuguese though. Seriously. I can't pronounce the "L" sound decently.
>inb4 weaboo

>>127325327
Ya, o meu problema é ser estranho, mas eu sou tímido de qualquer forma, mesmo a falar em português com outras pessoas. Um dia tenho de começar mesmo a treinar.
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>>127325615
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1wj2Wm2xyX0

one day i'd like to learn how to say butterfly in every language.
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>>127325292
I can do it for you if you really need it. I'm portuguese too if that works.

>>127325615
Aight, no pressure. Offer still stands if you ever need a hand.We'll see each other around as usual!
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>>127325757
it's "papillon" in French if you want to know.
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>>127325770
that'd be nice.
>>127325847
i've heard it in french but not seen it typed, so thank you!
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>>127325757
It's Borboleta in portuguese and Mariposa in spanish.

>>127325770
Thanks for the offer man. Maybe I'll take it one of these days.
How's your DeSu playthrough going?
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>>127325941
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1IZ2A5eYYCG
I said Borboleta so many times it sounds awkward now.

>>127326026
I've bought Monster Hunter 4 recently and I've been busy playing with friends so I'm still at Day 3. I like to take my SMT's slowly but I should probably show it a little more love.
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>>127326026
>>127326190
hnngh this is why smt has best general. thank you so much.
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>>127326260
It's Metelek in ucranian if you want to know and Babochka in russian. Just asked my gf.
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>All these Yuros
How bad do Atlus' localizing practices hurt? Do you guys avoid the general for like a year or two every time a game releases?
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Man this is general is so comfy.

even when most of our games consist on killing friends
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>>127326453
thank you and your gf!
>>127326661
i feel revitalized i might actually play dds. itss been so long i'll probably fuck up majorly.
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>>127326260
You're welcome.

>>127326606
I'm a newfag, I only started playing properly after IV came out in EU so yeah. Not sure what I'll do for FINAL.
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>>127326606
A lot. The worst is the waiting or getting the games with bugs and shit. Even worse on the 3DS because of the region lock no anymore thanks to regionthree though.
Personally, I don't care much about the story in general, be it SMT or any other game, so I don't avoid the general.

>>127326661
It's pretty comfy, yeah. All if you guys are pretty awesome.

>>127326767
No problem. They're pronounced exactly as I wrote them by the way.

>i feel revitalized i might actually play dds.
Good luck, anon. If you get stuck or something post here and we'll give you a hand.
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>>127326975
i'm currently level 33 about to fight lupa, i forget a lot of his mechanics, i don't remember which head to prioritize etc.
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>>127325941
You're welcome!

>>127326661
Reminds me of how fanbases of cartoons about love, friendship and tolerance have the most terrible people. good thing I never cared about MLP or Steven Universe

>>127326606
>>127326862
Same for me, I was just enjoying the Persona games on my own and found /smtg/ after I started SMT IV. I think I'll avoid the Internet in general and not just 4chan once Persona 5 will be released in the West, same thing for SMT IV Final.
Its localizing practices suck because the games being only in English means that they're hard, if not impossible, to find in stores. They don't want to try and fail to sell games that almost nobody can play after all. So it makes it difficult for people to find out about the series by chance. This is why I only started playing thanks to Persona. Some people here might complain about Persona being too mainstream and thus attracting a new audience with shit taste and whatever but I found the ones I played fun and it allowed me to discover other megaten games.
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>>127327256
Equip Sukunda, Tarunda and Null/Absorb Fire. It helps immensely. I don't really remember how I dealt with Lupa other than weakening him and bashing away with my Serph with AoE physical skills.
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>>127327438
Being in australia is even worse because we're part of europe regions wise but only have english. Before the region lock our local gba/ds games were often the american versions and sometimes released earlier than europe but since 3ds that's not the case.
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>>127327448
i really wish i had that crit reducing passive by now. got crit on the first round and killed myself with counterstrike. i'm super rusty. i have fire drain up at all times. i'm slowly remembering the fight now, the left head heals. i remember some bullshit involving mudo so i got null mudo on gale.
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>>127327680
I know you guys are in a worse situation because I've been told that getting Ace Attorney games in Australia was a pain in the ass, so I'm not surprised.
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>>127327782
>killed myself with counterstrike
If you Sukunda enough, Lupa will miss like 75% of the times he attacks/counters. Otherwise you can also use Sukukaja two times for better evasion.

>the left head heals
Oh, shit. That's right. Focus on that one first or the battle will drag on unnecessarily.
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>>127327782
Remember to have some Dis Stone items ready because he can petrify pretty often. Also, yeah, I remember one of the heads having Mamudo and another Mahama, but it's really rare for them to use them.
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>>127327912
apparently i don't have sukunda or tarunda, what the fuck.
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>>127328195
That's why my Argilla was always switching mantras. She was like my Red Mage of the party, Serph = Phy/hunt beast and Gale = Magic nuke. How about Sukukaja?
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>>127328487
i never touched the angel tree it seems. i suppose its time to grind it up
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>>127328813
Yup, you really need someone there since you'll eventually need Debilitate or Dekaja or Dekunda. I recommend your third character since Gale is an excellent magic user and Serph should be your offensive powerhouse.
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>>127329053
i've been using serph to punch bitches while skilling up the agi tree too because my girlfriend told me it nulls his weakness when it's maxed out.

is there a way to analyze enemies like in persona or do i have to remember all the enemy weaknesses? ive forgotten a huge amount of mechanics since i last played, all i remember is being able to 'pass' your turn over to other members.
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>>127329197
>i've been using serph to punch bitches while skilling up the agi tree too because my girlfriend told me it nulls his weakness when it's maxed out.
She's correct. In the last elemental mantra you'll obtain the [Element] Resist passive.

>is there a way to analyze enemies like in persona or do i have to remember all the enemy weaknesses?
There's a skill called literally Analyze. It's the only way to know the enemy's elemental attributes.
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>Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series!

What did he mean by this?
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>>127330019
Bad meme.
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>>127330019
Means we should just merge with /cgg/
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>>127330019
Means they couldn't get Knuckles to join in.
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Are Phoenix Wright and Demi-Fiend distant relatives?
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>>127331369
Depends. How many friends has he killed?
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>>127326661
>even when most of our games consist on killing friends
>implying we wouldn't create a tribe ala DDS and work together to kill all enemies
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>>127331619
We'll just kill each other when there's nothing left to murder.
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>>127331490
>friends
>not fiends

missed OC opportunity
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>>127326453
Not the same Anon, but its Kelebek in Turkish.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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>>127332005
10/10. Nice catch, anon.

>>127331813
But Nirvana, anon.
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>>127332005
I feel like there was an edit like that with Demi-fiend. Don't have it saved though.
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>>127332017
im still here. appreciated as always!
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>>127332291
Any specific reason why you chose "butterfy"?
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>>127332005
I made a fiend edit
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>>127332343
i like butterflies.

colorblind capcthas wehat the hell
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>>127330264
>all those /smtg/ memes on there
Every
Fucking
Time

>>127332363
Post it.
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>>127332740
>i like butterflies.
And I like Dogs, Turtles and Armadillos, that doesn't mean I want to know how you say them in other languages. I just thought you may have some kind of special reason.
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>>127333165
Those legs trigger me everytime.
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>>127333165
i gave a butterfly brooch to my girlfriend before we had to move away from each other.
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>>127331369
Dai Gyakuten Saiban localized when?

>>127330019
This means what it means.
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>>127332806
It's on my old HD ;_;
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>>127333407
Toaster legs are cool.

>>127333437
I knew it. I'm sorry about that though. Did you guys move very far away from each other?
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>>127333741
different countries.
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>>127333856
Sounds rough, anon. Hope you guys can manage a long distance relationship. Hang in there.
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>>127334150
trying to get the money together to visit, its depressing. i appreciate the kind words. we've been apart for like 4-5 months now, its awful.
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>>127334273
I can imagine shit can get pretty hard. How far are the countries you and her live in?
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>>127334429
i'm in australia she's in new zealand now.
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>>127255615
It's longer
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>>127334586
At least that's NOT so far away, though. Trips can still be pretty costly nonetheless, I presume. Anyway, hope the best for you guys. Hang in there. Now we better stop because it's completely off-topic.
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>>127334915
yeah. thanks for the chat tho. i'll probably sleep regardless.
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>>127335106
>i'll probably sleep regardless.
Isn't like 5 am there?
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>>127335215
yeah, 4. i can't actually sleep it's frustrating. i just don't have anything to actually contribute so i'll just lurk like a loser and watch youtube or something.
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>>127335713
not video games etc etc.
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>>127335327
Okay, anon. Feel free to post around to pass time though.

>>127335713
Completely off-topic.
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I want to transfer SMT IV and DeSu Overclocked on a new SD card, so that when I get DeSu2 Record Breaker and SH, I can have all of them on only one SD card. I think it's better to wait until sales for both games even though I'm European because I'll only buy new games in a very long time. Do you guys think it's a good idea? It's not too risky, right? Because the nintendo website won't stop saying to be careful for each step to follow. I'm asking this because even if I delete all the games I have downloaded on my 3ds I'll never have enough space to download DeSu2. I'm really tired, I hope what I wrote makes sense
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>>127317909
>>127320129

>Random demons
This doesn't bother me, especially for Hikawa because he's a strong Devil Summoner, i'm sure he could get any demon to join up with him.
Chiaki getting help from the angels is stupid, i guess the Archangels fought Demifiend because he's Lucifer's new pet, but it was just an excuse so we could have a Archangel boss fight.

I like the atmosphere of Nocturne, i think it's perfect. It's really easy to immerse yourself in that game. The combat in Nocturne is also a huge step up from the old games and the soundtrack is excellent. If i were to complain about one aspect of the game is that you can't side with YHVH, probably because he's siding with the reasons, which is odd when you look at Chiaki's reason for example. Also the Kalpas weren't edgy enough.
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>>127336910
>I like the atmosphere of Nocturne, i think it's perfect. It's really easy to immerse yourself in that game.
It's one of the strongest aspects of the PS2-era SMT games and arguably of all the SMT games.

>The combat in Nocturne is also a huge step up from the old games
Running the risk of being called a nocturnebabby, I still consider the Press Turn system to be the most flexible and fun turn-based system.
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>>127337978
Press turn is the best. I wish more SMT games had it.
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>>127338440
Me too. I thought Atlus had abandoned Press Turns until IV came along and used it. And now FINAL is using it too. I don't mind some different approaches Atlus does though, like SJ's demon Co-op. In fact, I would very well enjoy some sort of fusion between PT and Demon Co-op.
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>>127338741
Wouldn't it be too OP?

I really should buy a 3DS.
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Check off all the Atlus games you have actually beaten

http://strawpoll.me/6440239 Part 1
http://strawpoll.me/6440241 Part 2
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>>127338953
I think it's sound nice. It probably would take some tweaking for it to work decently though. Just make the enemies activate Co-op too, unlike SJ, please.

If you have the money, you should. Otherwise the 3DS emulator is actually still going along. Mostly depends if you wanna play on the go.
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>>127338953
How do you beat IMAGINE?
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>>127339305
Meant to quote >>127339204.
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>>127339242
Is there a 3DS emulator? Last time i checked it was a ruse.
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>>127339305
By beating Demifiend, of course.
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>>127339452
As far as I know, yeah, there is. Rudimentary but they actually managed to boot up a couple of games.
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>>127339204
I should really get back to Giten.
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>>127339540
I'll give it a shot. I'll try the 3DS Emulator X first.
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>>127339875
Citra is the one that's moving along I believe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_vl4dt_ahA
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While I have Deadly Wind, Trisagion, High Force Pleroma and Null Light for Plasma in IV, what should I replace for Megidoplasma?
Trisagion to focus on 2 elements or High Force Pleroma for more coverage?
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>>127341674
You mean Force Pleroma + High Force Pleroma, right? You should focus on one element for maximum damage.
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>>127339204
>tfw your favorite atlus game isn't even a megaten game
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>>127341795
I got Plasma Discharge+H.Elec Pleroma and Deadly Wind+H.Force Pleroma, but no Regular Pleromas.

Early in NG+, so didn't have that much freedom in fusion
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>>127336457
Isn't RB like 4gb?
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>>127342127
Dunno, then. I would go for Force Pleroma but if you have High Fire Pleroma available go for it.

>>127342025
I'll never understand what people see in Radiata's battle system. Story is pretty nice but fuck the whole game and the battle system in particular lack a lot of polish.
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>>127342354
>I would go for Force Pleroma but if you have High Fire Pleroma available go for it.
Already got it fused, so I wondered what I should replace when it gets Megidoplasma through leveling
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>>127342321
When I checked on the nintendo eshop it said it took a bit more than 22,000 blocs.
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Reminder
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>>127342460
Nevermind, I didn't get what you meant with your original post. Just replace Trisagion since two elements is enough for one demon.
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>>127342738
Delete this.
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>>127339204
>I'm the only person so far who beat SMT: Devil Summoner
Feels goodmen
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>>127343897
I tried it back when I barely knew JP. Is it good? Negotiation felt as random as IV's.
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>>127344128
The PSP version is a bit more balanced and easier both in terms of gameplay and negotiation. Though I haven't played through the SS version if only because Saturn emulation kind of sucks, and I don't know if I have the time to do so on my hard copy.
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>>127344398
Yeah, I tried the PSP version actually. My PC shats itself whenever I try to emulate the Saturn. How about story-wise, is it good?
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>>127339204
>I'm apparently the only person who beat If...
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>>127344525
I dunno mang, I don't speak Jap, only katakana for spells and items and shit.
It's pretty simple, Sid Davis wants to fuck up the town for power, your qt GF is the ancient reincarnation of some Chinese princess, Kyouji is an asshole and surprise, most of the dickhead government is demons.
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>>127345435
You emulated it or played it on a PSP or a Saturn? If the PSP isn't region-locked I could buy it. It's tempting but it's not a priority, I'm only asking because I'm curious.
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>>127345435
Still sounds fun though.

>>127346341
The PSP isn't region locked. Personally I played through a ISO on my hacked PSP.
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>>127342738
I thought this was a bootleg for the longest time
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>>127339204
i opened both up then remembered i haven't beaten any SMT games :/
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IF NOT WHEN, NOW
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>>127348786
I really want to play it.
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>>127349019
I'm playing it right now but whenever I click out of the emulator with my DS4 plugged in, the fucking up/down input freaks the fuck out.
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>>127349405
I wish i could read moonrunes. At least you can.
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>>127349653
>Implying I can
>>
Musubi forver
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When did this general become a small group of circlejerkers trying to exodus what's left into some shitty skype group? No wonder it died here. It's a sad day when my preferred SMT discussion is on reddit or gamefaqs.
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>>127350726
>my preferred SMT discussion is on reddit or gamefaqs.
GO BACK
RETURN THE SLAB OR SUFFER MY CURSE
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>>127350829
What's your offer?
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>>127350951
My offer is

ONE
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>>127350951
I'll give you 500 yen, some eyedrops, and whatever I've got in my back pocket.
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>>127351016
More?

>>127351046
I'll take 'em.
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I guess I should go the Reiko route since I'd probably only replay this for Charlie and Akira.
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>>127350726
>when my preferred SMT discussion is on reddit or gamefaqs.
If that's how you think you can go then. Gamefaqs users are a dumb as brick.
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>>127342025
I'm sad we will never get a sequel. Not that the game itself needs one, but I'd love to see another RPG with the same timeline gimmick and gameplay more polished.
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>>127352341
>I'm sad we will never get a sequel
I thought the one of the big guys inside Atlus said that he was interested in doing a sequel or something.
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Anyone, please?
>>127298142
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>>127352786
Not sure which map you're talking about.
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>>127353049
Sadly I don't remember the name, I only remember seeing a pic of the maps and it was all a huge clusterfuck
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>>127353317
Is it Sector Eridanus? That's the one that gets posted most often, but a lot of maps in SJ fit your description.
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>>127352341
I don't know what part of the gameplay you felt was unfinished, but I might just be watching through rose tinted glasses, because it's been a while since I played the game.
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So far so good, the PS versions of these games control pretty well with crabwalking, Left/Right movements on L/R, and quick speed options.
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>>127353654
Well, I guess that was it
Thanks for the help
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>He dosen't play Nocturne perpetually holding Circle for the true SMT experience
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>>127354703
>perpetually holding Circle for the true SMT experience
Wait, what does holding circle do?
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>>127354703
>perpetually holding Circle
Jesus.
I only used circle when i had to run from Dante in the third kalpa since you could see where he was coming from or something like that..
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>>127356282
Tank controls but not really. Walk sideways and backwards, but slower than normal.
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Heeho-kun is here
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>>127356282
Locks you to the 4 cardinal directions, enables strafing and instant 90 degree turns
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>>127338440

Atlus new team fucked up the moment you can use Guardian's Eye ( 3 extra turns ) , and use fusion lite to pass it to other demons. Granted you need DLC, but hell, if it isn't fun doing this:

> Guardian's Eye
> Guardian's Eye
> Guardian's Eye
> Recover MP for the entire party
> Guardian's Eye
> Guardian's Eye
> Guardian's Eye
> repeat ad eternum for the lulz
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>>127332806
I like Dante and DMC.

I must admit that Nocturne picked my attention because of it.
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>>127335327
What's your power level?
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FUCK PARALYZE
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>>127359437
I'm just a casual faggot.....
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>>127354119
It is great game, but as the other anon pointed out, the battles felt broken at times. I think I just cheesed everything with Aht and her traps after some point.
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>>127359437
Do Persona games count here :^)
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>>127360174
Yeah actually.
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I wish people would stop uploading their ugly tumblr faggotry onto pixiv.
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Is Digital Devil Saga edgier than mainline?
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>>127360504
no
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>>127360174
They do. Which is why the level cap has increased.
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>>127360570
So mainline is the maximum edge in terms of Atlus games?
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>>127360504
It's not really edgy, just depressing.
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Is it normal to die constantly in Naoya's path of DeSu OC?

I just beated Yezabel and all my party members minus Naoya died at some point.
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>>127360889
Megaten games are also filled with silly light-hearted things.
If you think that the games are only pure edge, you are skipping or forgetting many things... or you are a chaosfag.
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>>127361029
I forgot to mention that my party member are around level 46-49
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>>127360693
Bitch-ass Messiah here.
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>>127360693
Casualry Scum, but 2016 doth be the year of SMT for me
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>>127361553
I'm proud of you.
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>soul hackers 10 dollars on e-shop

Should I?
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>>127363074
>eshop

nope buy physical l because nintendo will fuck you on digital
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>>127363074
YES
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>>127363376
then I have to pay an extra 17
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>>127266407
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>>127367104
Aw shit. Thanks anon.
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Yuzu has some massive honkers for such a young face.
Also the GUI of Desu is kind of a clusterfuck
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>>126740059
>MAG is completely useless on him, however, so ignore that.

This is only half true.
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SMT x Dorohedoro
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>>127361553
Me too. This is going to be the year I actually finish Giten, SMT II and Kyuuyaku.
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SMT x Maken X
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>>127367972
Yuzu's Yuzus are humongous. It's like Yasuda's signture. Even the chicks in Caldrius Blaze had some big racks.
And yeah, the UI is kinda messy but still really cool, at least visually.
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>>127369929
Case in point.
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>>127368875
I gotchu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFZBGlju7bw
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>>127370243
>tfw you will never be smothered by these puppies
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>>127361029

Yeah, it is, specially if it is the first time you are playing. Naoya path is literally the hard mode of the game on the first time.

You can grind a little, or break the game.
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DeSu 3 when?
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>>127374973
Hopefully never.
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>>127374973
DeSu in the middle of having an embarrassing identity crisis right now.

They don't know who they want to market to evident by the anime disaster, and Record Breaker was like a DID patient gone mad.

I worry for any future game.
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>>127374973
Hopefully sometime soon. And hopefully it would be good.
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Nearly everytime I think "WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEXT SAVEPOINT" in Nocturne I find out I missed it somehow and reached the next small terminal

But damn the dungeons are starting to kick my ass. I also fused one of my best demons accidently and saved over it because I couldn't remember when I last saved and didn't want to lose progress. Fug.
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Once mainline SMT runs out of Bible stories to retell, what are they going to do?
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>>127378616

I wouldn't mind a mix of other lores, outside judeo-christian lore. But by far, Revelations is the best end of the world tale in any religion, specially because it is a mix of many lores.

But Kaneko usually has some pretty amazing ideas and Atlus used to hire good writers.

The biggest problem is not running out of bible stuff, it is Atlus going full retard because of Sega.
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>>127360693
I had to stop playing FES because it was so disgustingly awful.
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>>127374038
It's alright then.
I am the kind of player who enjoys the thrill the death.
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>>127377973
C O M P E N D I U M
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>>127380636

I loved the game exactly because of that, unknowingly followed Naoya path, didn't break the game until very very late, it was one of the most rewarding experiences in modern SMT at the time for me.

If you want to break the game just let any anon know, most here know how. Both DeSu's got a set of broken skills that just murder the game.

Enjoy one of the most rewarding paths too... man, bring me back feels.

> tfw my ex played the game, wanted the Naoya path so bad, got the annoying big tits girl one
> laughed so hard at her face that she never played it again
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>>127379209
So far Sega is only responsible for bullshit DLC practices, right?
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What would your SMT dream game be like?
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>>127381401
>Chao versions of demons/personas

I kind of want this.
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>>127381650
Soul hackers 2
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>>127381650
Direct adaptation of Quantum Devil Saga
it's a vn
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>>127381401

It is such a business shenanigans that I don't even know in fact. Both Sega and Index can share the blame for all the bad shit.

But whatever happens this year with MegaTen, it is all on Sega.

Kaneko taking a step back from everything is all on Sega too.
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>>127381308
lol

I'm really enjoying the challenges so far. This is my first playthrough and I'm trying to keep the grinding to a minimum, although I must admit that I had to do a free battle for the first two battles of his path (mostly to get money to fuse better demons), and it is still fucking tough. But I like it; every victory feels like a true acomplishment.

I also decided to go for his path just because an anon said that it was hard mode, and it is definitely paying off. I wanted to go for Atsuro's route at first, but I got locked out of it for giving zero fucks about Keisuke. So between big tits Yoohoo, Amane and Naoya, he seemed like the next best thing in terms of my in-game choices.
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>>127381650
MT1 dungeons + DS/SH traps + Nocturne Combat + SMT 4 demon list
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>>127381650
A Raidou game set in the Devil Summoner/Soul Hackers timeline.
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>>127383818
What about a game where you play as Raidou the XL?
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>>127381650
Pic related
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>>127384390
Megaten fans are so lazy (myself included).

It is almost a crime that there aren't any Elder Scrolls or Doom mods. It seems like every big franchise has one of those.
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>>127384212
>Raidou the XL
American Raidou doesn't sound fun.
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>>127384783
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>>127384783
>Space Marine will remember this.
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>>127385232
Please don't, just a prank bro
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>>127382632

Must be me, I'm the only anon lately preaching Naoya's path here hehe. And you are in the same situation I was, minimal grinding, just enough for money.

If you are playing the OC version, be aware of the ( very good ) extra content. And it truly does, reason it is the best way to play the game.

Amane's it the second best, Atsuro is good enough.

Changing the subject, anyone knows where I can read the translation or download all the raws of Raidou manga ? Can't seem to find anything past chapter 10.
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>>127381650
IV+SJ
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>>127386164
This, it would be pretty cool to have a shin megami tensei ala DQXI(3ds).
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>>127386164
This here.
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>>127348786
Oh god what are you doing anon

>Five generals straight, nothing but World of Sloth updates
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>>127385745
>hehe
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>>127385352
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little foul? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in USMC, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret expeditions to Blackworld, and I have over 300 STR. I am trained in demonic warfare and I’m the top vending machine in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just ex mission. I will wipe it all out with sukukaja-buffed precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this timeline, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Amala network? Think again, manchild. As we speak I am contacting Burroughs and your password is being traced right now so you better prepare for the Bolt Storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, personafag. I can be anywhere, anytimeline, and I can kill you in over 256 ways, and that’s just without equipping the knife. Not only am I extensively trained in demon negotiation, but I have access to the entire compendium of the Ars Goetia and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the multiverse, you little slime. If only you could have known what divine retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn heretic. I will Freikugel all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking mudo'd, kiddo

fuck formating
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>>127387228
I'm still here, plugging away at the world of sloth. IF doesn't fuck around, giving you zombiegirls with shibaboo in the first dungeon that give you full PALYZE status and dispara costs 300 macca.
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>>127387368
>I have over 300 STR
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Just finished SMT1.
Great game but also really sad. The Cathedral is a place you're supposed to take several days clearing right? Thank God i had a bunch of Fuma Bells, that place would have been more hellish with the encounters than it already was without it.

I really liked that shoutout to SMT general.
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>>127388454
Cathedral is one of my favorite dungeons just because it's a big endurance test with no gimmicks.
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Since we're talking about SMT 1, what happened to the Heroine in SMT2?
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>>127389109
Death by ICBM
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>>127387645
>Guardian leveled down to Jellyman
Getting PTSD flashbacks. My condolences.
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>>127389109
She must have died pretty early on. No statue in the Hall of Champions, Madam doesn't mention her, no reference to her at all in the extra PSX scenes that confirm the fate of the Hero.
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Could anyone post that Strange Journey edit of the Eridanus maps full of teleporters and holes? I searched for it in the booru but I couldn't find it.
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>>127390658
>>127389403
>Lilith died for nothing
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>>127359437
failure as a human.
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I'm confused how people cannot still the the light of the white
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>>127380803
Shit you're right
For some reason I always forget about that option. Thanks
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I played Class of Heroes for half an hour, and deleted it. I never even got to see a dungeon, but fuck that shit.
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>>127390449
I am desperately trying to get more Guardian points in front of the door for Datenshi Virus while waiting for this chest.
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>>127390941
You what?
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>>127391449
He means that he can't understand why people reject the White ending when it's the only one that makes sense
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>>127391449
Sorry it's hard to type when you are blinded with such enlightenment
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>>127391778
You still haven't killed yourself, so you still haven't felt the enlightment of the White.
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>>127391359
Is there a better way to do that than just flat out grinding?
One of my favorite things about (mainline) SMT is the absence of grinding so I absolutely lost my shit when it seemed like the game was demanding it.
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which SMTIV route has the most content?
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>>127392026
Neutral.
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>>127392087
feels good. I was planning on doing neutral anyways so this is just a nice bonus.
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>>127391980
Honestly, I think it's supposed to reward not dying, and for backtracking like the world of sloth and stuff. And it encourages you to fight encounters more. I don't know if there's any way to increase it faster through a certain type of demon or event though.
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>>127381401
>S.E.Z.

Sensibly chuckled at that.
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>>127392380
uhhhh
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>>127392380
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is nocturne in a standalone universe or does it have story connections to other games?

also is there a canon name for my character before i get started or should i just wing it
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>>127392380
>Smashfags
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>>127392518
>>127392532
Man I hope one day there will not be the arbitrary wait period on deleting posts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw3OQP_4lNg

RIP Isamu
The greatest friend I ever had
We'll be alone soon, buddy
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>>127392570
Most of the games are in a standalone universe while still having connections to other games.

Nocturne introduced the concept that most of the games in the megaten franchise take place in alternate but connected universes.
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>>127392570
Just wing the name.

Nocturne is connected to the worlds of SMT I & II, but you can play the game just fine without getting the references.
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>>127380559
Yeah I don't think I'll ever get to the higher "ranks" because I can't into Persona, VN parts are just too much, and I'm not too fond of the setting.
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>>127392570
Wing it.

>is nocturne in a standalone universe or does it have story connections to other games?
Don't worry about this, the game will answer this question for you.
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>>127392792
Play P1
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>>127392720
>>127392754
>>127392848

appreciated.
oh god names are hard.
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>>127393040
>names are hard.
Try playing Etrian Odyssey
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://youtu.be/ijJFkJ6l058?t=46s

GET FUCKED CHAOSFAGS
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>>127393040
Just use a random Japanese name.
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>>127393040
I think he is called Hitoshura... something, but I have never cared enough to look it up.
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>>127393157
now i'm scared
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>>127393170
>That image
Fuckin saved.
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>>127393040
the name's memes... dank memes
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>>127392197
That was more or less my train of thought, and then I remembered that the previous games reset back to the title screen when you died. So basically this game just punishes you for not resetting on death. The whole thing just seems so half thought through.
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>>127393157
>Name your guild
>Name 5-30 party members
>Name your boat
>Name your airship
>Name your mansion
>Name your cafe
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>>127393557
i usually try to avoid dank memes for names.
>>127393596
you're fucking kidding me right?
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>>127393596
A bigger nightmare than Animal Crossing.
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>>127393665
He's not
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>>127393665
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>>127393759
jesus christ man have some dignity.
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>>127393759
What's your favorite dank meme? I think mine is choosing Chaos ever it's so funny cause nobody would ever actually do it aren't I right fellow people?
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>>127332005
>>127333469
I have it on my PC if anyone really wants it.
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>After defeating Kagutsuchi, Lucifer remarks that by defying the Great Will and choosing to side with him, the Great Will shall curse the Demi-fiend for eternity, implying that he will suffer the same fate, or worse, as Hijiri. However, Lucifer will also comfort the Demi-fiend, stating that even if the Great Will cursed him, he'd have the blessing of the fallen angel.

Oh wow, thanks for the fucking blessing asshole. Your shitty blessing sure helps Hijiri in his eternal suffering.
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>>127393968
You certainly have a good sense of humor, fellow son of man. Haha.
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>>127393568
In other news, Datenshi Vine is kicking my ass, jesus fucking christ the second boss has Mahazionga. Poor Reiko does not have the constitution to withstand it, even with Rakukaja.
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>>127394290
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>>127394231
>the Great Will shall curse the Demi-fiend
Wait, YHVH is just a part of the Great will, right? Does that mean Demi-fiend is more fucked than Aleph? What the hell is exactly the Great will anyway?
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>>127394568
The creator, the entity which rules over infinite universes.
Reminder that Lucifer is a small part of the Great will.
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ACCEPT YOUR MIGHT
PEOPLE KILLING
BECOME ABEL
ESCAPE YOUR TOWN
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>>127394424
I TRIED TO WARN YOU ABOUT ...IF
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>>127395070
>The creator, the entity which rules over infinite universes.
I thought that was YHVH Himself. Also, why does YHVH want to wipe out mankind in IV and II if pic related is true? I don't get it.
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>>127396449
>Also, why does YHVH want to wipe out mankind in IV and II
He only wants to wipe out the unclean.
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>>127396340
FUSED MY FUCKING DEMONS
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>>127396623
So, YHVH is a complete jobber in every game he's appeared in but he keeps being resurrected by the Great will because humanity.
Lucifer, Kagutsuchi, YHVH and all these entities are a part of the Great will.
And I don't know where to go to from here because I'm dumb. I should stop thinking about the story in these games and just focus on everything else.
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>Emulating SMT game
>there's a casino
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>>127400168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCgS079ZkPU
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>>127375691
What would you like to see in DeSu 3?

Personally:
*Demons being the focus of the plot instead of a side note (like in DeSu 2).

*Either the fate system gone or the endings not dependent on it.

*More emphasis in the survivor aspect. No cozy beds for the characters.

In other words, I would like more DeSu and less DeSu 2
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>>127398736
Nicely done.

>>127394424
>Datenshi Vine
Oh god no, I got confused when you said Datenshi Virus and thought you were at least at Vile Parasite or Datenshi Balaam.

Jesus christ, the horrors yet to come.
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>>127402105
Yeah, I got confused because of Vine's weird spelling.

Now I am cheating the FUCK out of this casino, but it doesn't offer shit statistically as broken as SMT2's, but hey, 2 pieces of resist-all armor.
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>>127401714
The endings aren't dependant on the fate system, only titles.
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>>127401714
I don't want to see a DeSu3.

And if I do I don't want it to be like either 1 or 2. At all. They were both shit in their own ways and the survival aspects in 1 felt like childish anime simplification of potential issues.
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In Devil Survivor 2 I actually liked how they were with JP's, an organization created specifically for taking care of the supernatural created by a potentially interesting family, but I didn't like how it was handled. We were told constantly that things weren't going perfectly for JP's, that Yamato had a lot of work to take care of, but we were never shown or experience it and I would have liked to. It could have been an interesting perspective of the other side, I don't care to see obnoxious civilians again.

I would have liked to have been more hands on with JP's issues and helping Yamato who felt like the only Megaten character in the game. I also would have liked to have learned more about his family for that same reason. But it did a lot of telling and bragging about his family backstory but not going anywhere with it.
>>
Fun fact, apparently having another jewel that is the same as one in a magic chest makes it not give it to you.

Atlus, please
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Why do so many people here like DeSu? I can't take this general seriously when a shitty entrian odyssey clone is considered "good" and games like DeSu being "bad". The only thing wrong with DeSu was the story/atmosphere being less about survival than one. The gameplay in both titles is great aside from balance issues.
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>>127407081
>like DeSu?
I meant hate, fuck.
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>>127407081
You're saying a bunch of contradictory and nonsensical things here.
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>>127407081
Your bait should at least make sense.
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>>127407081
DeSu has really lackluster strategy gameplay, the first satisfied my edge-needs, but the second was all over the place and a mess of stupid characters and a dumb plot.
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>>127407081
Because it's not edgy enough. It's the same reason Persona 3 and 4 here (but they are tedious as fuck). SJ fans are probably the worst people here, and the reason this general is dead.

Most mainline fans are cunts actually. I remember a time where most /v/ threads on any side game were bombarded with "PLAY MAINLINE" fags shitposting at anyone who so much whispered "persona".

The irony coming from the same place that has organized circlejerks and plans to move onto Skype for god knows what. I hate seeing what this general has become.
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>>127408074
Wow, this post is terrible.
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>>127407774
>a mess of stupid characters
Applies to the first as well. They're the same tropes in different skins in both games.
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>>127408074
>Skype
is this the hottest new meme
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>>127408160
>says a circlejerking faggot
Back 2 Skype with you.
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>>127408074
>Replying to yourself
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>>127408074
>>127407081
Samefag.
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>>127408370
Well, I thought the characters in 1 were more SMT-esque, you have your buddy who sticks with you, your lawfag, chaosfag, female friend, military guys, etc. They felt more SMT than some of the retards in DeSu2.
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>>127408490
>>127408560
samefag
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>>127408489
I guess that answers >>127408453 then
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>>127408724
You realize that your posts only make you look bad, and not this general, right?
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>>127408636
Being clear cut reps doesn't take away that they're the same annoying anime tropes.
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i thought desu2 not having obvious alignments was a strength.
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>>127409537

Instead it was communist terrorists vs. gay Donald Trump
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>>127409537
Desu2 is a fucking mess
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>>127409807
The Septentrione arc is fine if you can follow astrology. The alignments are also based in astrology.

It doesn't become bullshit until the Triangulum arc and its need to justify Miyako existing creating all sorts of problems.
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Go play some SMT, chucklefucks.
At this rate I'll have SMT IF done before the damn translation is finished.
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>>127409739
Picked the fuck up.
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>>127409969
But mom, I can play SJ and shitpost at the same time.
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>>127404205
Certain endings are. You need to get Al's FATE up to rank 4 or 5 (I think) to unlock his ending, and I'm pretty sure Ronaldo's ending requires getting his FATE rank up as well.
Also, the best Daichi-related ending requires getting everyone to rank 4 excluding Al.
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>>127409949
The Tri arc was highly experimental. See my post >>127375691 It was like it was being used as testing ground for different audiences and reactions.
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>>127410269
>and I'm pretty sure Ronaldo's ending requires getting his FATE rank up as well
It doesn't.

The only fate related shit is seeing Alcor events to unlock Alcor's route in Septentrione arc, and seeing certain Yamato events to unlock Yamato's route in the Triangulum arc.

Daichi's full Septention ending is optional, as is Yamato's full ending in Tri.
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>>127410613
Yes, but Daichi's best ending STILL requires getting all FATEs to rank 4+ excluding Al's.
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/smtg/ over-exaggerating how bad DeSu2 is led to me enjoying it.
I liked how it was self-aware and didn't take itself seriously which led to less second hand embarrassment that I felt around some things in DeSu1, particularly concerning Naoya.
The fanservice was just a bit much and some of the character's problems like Airi's were stupid to be worrying about when people are getting eaten alive by demons, and I hated Miyako and her ridiculous writing, but some aspects of the story and some characters did give some legitimate issues to think about.
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>>127410908
I did that including Alcor's without a guide.
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>>127409807

Well really it should've been called Alien Survivor or something. The demons really take a back seat in DeSu2
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>>127412815
>being that anal retentive
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>>127412815
It's not like their situation was much better in DeSu1, where they were used mostly as plot devices to give characters spotlights, rather than focused on.
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>>127410089
At least play a good game.
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>>127412815
Bifrons, Botis, Black Frost, Shiva, Kama, Aramisaki, probably more I'm missing, all got spotlights in the main story. Then there was all the side bosses. They were still present and a threat. The aliens merely took the place of angels.
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>>127404205
The extra scene for the "Triumphant" Daichi Ending can only happen if you recruit everyone using the Fate.
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>>127416332
That's the restorer ending and it's not required.

Triumphant is just the title you get for recruiting them.
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>>127416680
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/625210-shin-megami-tensei-devil-survivor-2/63281572

"Additionally, if you have recruited all of the characters except the Anguished One (who isn't recruitable on this route), this ending will be slightly different."
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>>127417335
And it doesn't have to be.
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>>127417713
?
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>>127418054
You don't have to take that fucking route.
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>>127418054
daichi has multiple endings
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Are all chaosfags obese?
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>>127419883
neutral best route

you save humanity and save the cute bowl-haircut lady :L
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HOOOOOOOOOOOOY
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>>127424731
Get out of my room Walter.
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hee ho
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>ordered Nocturne, DDS1 and 2 the week before the Christmas holidays to play during the holidays
>receive them today, the day when college starts again
>more than 3 weeks after I ordered the games
>have to study for my finals now
What have I done to deserve this? Am I cursed? Fuck you amazon.fr.
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>>127425286
>Am I cursed?
You're french, so yes.
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>>127425286
sorry pal but i hope u enjoy them when you get to play them.

post papillon
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>>127425339
That would explain a lot.

>>127425346
I watched beginning of some playthroughs to get an idea of how the games are, they look really fun, I'm so salty I won't be able to play them a lot this semester. here, have some papillons
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>>127425573
thank you so much.
i got annoyed at some parts in dds1 early because i was a scrub, nocturne is significantly easier early on though i haven't gotten to matador yet.
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>>127425573
Jolyne is kinda cute.
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>>127425616
I read so many things about Matador, I think I'm already mentally prepared for that boss fight. Don't lose hope! I think I'll start with DDS1 and keep Nocturne for last, I suck at demon negotiation.

>>127425635
She really is. Can't wait for a Stone Ocean anime.
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>>127425891
you've already negotiated with me pretty well! now give me macca.
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>>127425891
my grandpa was a bullfighter and one of his costumes was really close to Matador's

>mfw SMTIVFINAL will come to Europe when Stone Ocean anime starts airing
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>>127426420
>my grandpa was a bullfighter
Are you a Spaniard?
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>>127426473
indeed
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>>127426695
Mola. Postea fotos.
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>>127426743
Los tomos de fotografías se perdieron en una mudanza. Solo sé lo del traje, porque mi madre lo comentó al ver a Matador mientras jugaba Nocturne
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>>127426695
>>127426743
Am I the only French anon here or what?

>>127426420
Please don't say that, it'll bring bad luck and we'll get neither of them.
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>>127427061
¿Era famoso? Dime su nombre y así puedo ir a la tele a contar que su nieto es un friki que juega a videojuegos satánicos raros, te doy la mitad de lo que me den.
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>>127427190
que va, era un matao' pero le ponía empeño. Solo hizo pequeñas corridas en Extremadura hace más de 50 años. Aunque seguro que en este país te compraban la exclusiva

>>127427106
I guarantee you that at least DiU will be almost done though probably Vento Aureo anouncement will come first
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>>127427106
>Am I the only French anon here or what?

Non, mais je suis Canadian par contre :L, j'adore Paris mais c'est vraiment degeu comme endroit: tout le monde se prend une cloppe, l'urine partout, ca schlingue trop mais c'est un tres bel endroit
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It's a bit more than 12:00 and I still haven't got my games, I hope the mailman will come soon or already put them in the letter box somehow.

>>127427605
C'est la première fois que je parle à un francophone qui joue à autre chose que persona 3 et 4, c'est cool ! Je suis jamais allée à Paris mais je veux bien te croire, dans ma ville aussi c'est crade, tout le monde fume et il y a des crottes de chien partout. Mais je suis trop habituée à la France pour juger, je pense.
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On the fourth day on DeSu

why is Midori such a smug little piece of shit
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>>127411437
I hope I'll feel the same when I pick it up. Heard so many bad things about it I'm not sure what to expect.
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>>127431709
Personally, I heard it was shitty before playing it and it actually surpassed my expectations of how bad it really is.
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>>127425616

Nah in DDS Magic is always the answer for a first playthrough, the MP cost of the spells is low and the max MP itself is high, and there is that you don't need too much luck to drop MP recovery items so you can keep spamming boosted (boost comes very early and you don't need to swallow that shitty accept/cancel hell to get) AoE of single target with you Magic Serph to breeze through the game.

On any difficult the early game on Nocturne can be harsh if don't go ice magic to abuse that place next to Nihilo.
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>>127431312
I like Midori she and Nagi from Raidou 2 have a special place on my heart.
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>>127431709
The story on DeSu 2 has it's good moments (like the Alcor Ending) but man it has it's shitty moments like that part with Shiva...

On the gameplay side i disliked how the game has lots of new stuff to abuse but the superboss is a complete joke compared to Lucifer on DeSu 1.
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>>127432362
I got told Gale was the caster so I figured I'd make Serph phys for versatility sake. There's just been a lot of encounters in DDS where I can go from 100-0 health before I get a turn.
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>>127432742
>I got told Gale was the caster
And he is. Serph can go either for a Physical or Magical build. Either way it's fine.
Thing is, since you can manually allocate Serph's points you can go for pure Strength with him, since the only other Physical character you have is Heat.
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Roses are red
Violets are blue
HAHA
FUCK YOU
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>>127433070
yeah and I really disliked Heat so I opted to make Serph the strictly superior Heat.
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>>127433154
And you did good. Get that Strength really high plus some points on Agi, equip Critical Boost and a Physical skill that hits all targets and annihilate everything except if it nulls/absorbs/reflects Phy.
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>>127433334
i'm only up to the lupa fight, been meaning to get defensive buffs on argilla but i am super lazy.
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>>127433436
Oh, right. You're the Butterfly anon, then? Yeah, you really need Sukunda/Tarunda. mainly Sukunda. Sukukaja is fine too since I think Lupa can't use Dekaja
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>>127433663
yep, that's me. i got tarunda, started sukunda before i stopped playing, then i tried nocturne earlier.
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>>127433892
Are you enjoying Nocturne? It's considerably harder than DDS.
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>>127433972
forneus was a cakewalk because i had a full party by then and two had zio. i'm fucking scared for matador, no idea when its going to show up. i'm only up to the part where you go through the stream with all the anomalies in it.
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>>127434084
Fuse Uzume, Nozuchi and Inugami. Easy mode.
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>>127434084
>i'm fucking scared for matador
Kek. It's a real threat tough, even though the "meme" surrounding him kinda got out of hand. Protip: Try to keep the -kaja skills and Fog Breath ready during the whole game.
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>>127434272
i got high pixie and jack frost so far. hee ho.
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>>127434084
no need to be scared of matador
you will most likely die one time because he appears pretty unexpectedly
you'll be around lvl 16 to 20 depending on how many battles you skip
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>>127409969
Doesn't help at all that If... is absurdly short.
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>>127435403
B-but you can replay it with Devilman as your buddy
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>>127425286
mail is always way slower over the christmas period with all those cards and packages being sent
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>>127436486
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>>127432658
This. The problem with DeSu2 is that it's very inconsistent, but I still prefer it over DeSu1. For YHVH's sake, I hate those fucking missions in which you have to save some random idiots.

And yeah, they're used to portray how fucked up humanity has become, but you don't have to do it 99 times.
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>>127432658
>Lucifer on DeSu 1
It's so fucking satisfying to beat him due to all those Resistances and MEGIDOLADYNE
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>>127432742
Magic/Vit build is the superior build for Serph for first play on both games, there is no Pierce on DDS so if the boss or enemy resists/null hunt/drain/repel/ you just wasted the best damage dealer...

The worst part of going phys first is that you cannnot give the character buffs or similar for repel cases because phys mantras are expensive as fuck.

On the first game Harihara will take centuries to beat with a non maxed Phys Serph because of her resist almighty propierty (you can only use Ragnarok as a debuff).
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>>127437775
>Magic/Vit build is the superior build for Serph for first play on both games,
Please, DDS and Nocturne are all about offense. I went for Strength/Agility and annihilated everything that didn't null Physical. Having low Vit and Magic really hurt by end game but by then Healing and Nulling elements isn't a problem.
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>>127436457
I knew that but I never thought it could be that bad. Next time I won't make the same mistake. I still don't have my package by the way.
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>>127438741
On DDS this playstyle you described can be viable because you can use level for defense as grind will be a bit faster but...

>Nocturne
>About offense

How about getting a random game over because of Claw/Bite skill just because the enemy got the first turn (Mind Eye can't stop this)?

Without a Vit build it can happen on any difficult don't forget how fucking early Momonofu appear with his resistence to phys using Focurs + Lunge or Critical + Focus + Lunge combo.

On top of that unique to Nocturne from the turn based PS2 Atlus games the enemy AI on Nocturne not only use AoE to deal damage and get extra turns from a single enemy with Weakness but also their single targetting isn't very random they target the weakest ally with more frequency... You don't want to be the best option...
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>>127439318
that picture wat

>>127439938
"How about getting a random game over because of - "
i know i'm a retard for never getting vit then blaming the game for those kind of events but big numbers are so satisfying.
>>
Let's talk about a "what if?" scenario.
Mudo, Hama and their variations are removed from a new mainline SMT. Some instant kill skills remain but they're unique to certain demons i. e. White and Pale Riders in Nocturne.
Good or bad idea?
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This dungeon is pissing me off
I hope the other two aren't similiar
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>>127441609
Why would you remove them?
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>>127427106
>Crying hee-ho
Poor Flynn, I bet that Mokoi made him cry.
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>>127443780
No, it's from a comic where Flynn loses Jack Frost in a fight and has to find him in a random battle, he's crying and Mokoi is trying to console him. I'll find the link to the other pages, wait a little bit.
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>>127443949
Aw, that's so cute. This is from those Anthology comics right?
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>>127443653
Your anger will only intensify.

Let it fuel you, so that you can eventually punch Isamu in the face.
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>>127443653
The Kalpas are harder and so is the last part of Kagutsuchi tower, the teleport areas before Thor.
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http://pastebin.com/ZfA8wtA2
You can downgrade your 3DS to 9.2 now for pirating and junk.
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>>127444071
I think so but I'm not totally sure. Here's the link: http://volavolavolavola.tumblr.com/post/104883986822/i-got-the-official-smt-iv-anthology-and-this-has
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>>127444293
>Things you need: A brain
Fuck
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>>127444293
Also, be careful since you risk bricking your 3DS. A more stable method might come out in a few days or weeks.
>>
I DON'T WANNA TRY TO FIGHT THIS LOVE
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>>127445971
MORE
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>>127446060
ON THE X
I'M LOSING MY MIND OH I'M SPINNING
IN THE RAIN, YOUR FARAWAY, HIDDEN
EACH COMES TO THE END, BUT
I CAN'T FIND THE EXIT
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>>127446060
HOW DANGEROUS
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>>127446449
WASH AWAY THE ANGER
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>>127446598
I WANT TO BE NEXT TO YOU
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>>127444158
>>127444212
Fucking goddamn it
Reached the boss but my party is pretty much useless against it, I'll have to go fuse shit and try that annoying crap again

I hate everything
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>>127447735
>I hate everything
So you're right on track for best ending then
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>>127447735
Who's the boss? Skadi or Abaddon? Or is it the Jelly thing?
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>>127448757
Skadi
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>>127448938
How are you getting beat by Skadi? What is your party and level?
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>>127449023
Too many phys demons without good mag skills and mag/def buffs
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>>127449126
Do you have Daisoujou? He's the only demon you need. I drained all of Skadi's MP when i fought her with Daisoujou.
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>>127449309
No but I just beat her using taunt and war cry with my shitty party (didn't want to go back), thank god for debuffs.
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About to fight Medusa. None of my demons have Zan. How can I unfuck myself from this?
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>>127446694
>>127446598
>>127446572
>>127446449
>>127446060
CALM THE FUCK DOWN


Light shines on the heaven
The earth the spirit
Light brings glory and grace
May it open your eyes to the truth Shanti
Shanti
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>>127449540
Uhhh...get a demon with zan?
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>>127449660
I mean I can't find anything nearby with zan, and nothing I have/can find will fuse into anything with zan.
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>>127449529
If this is your first time playing Nocturne i suggest you got and get Daisoujou. He's a level 37 demon with Prayer(Full HP and heal ailments) and Meditation (Drain MP).
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>>127449587
>hurrr,png
If Jenna was both the mother and father of Sera, does that make her an inbred?
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>>127449747
Go back to naraku and get a demon with zan
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>>127449786
Yes and a clone.
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>>127449762
Neat. I actually kept a demon with mediarama in stock in case I need healing but didn't encounter anything with prayer yet; will keep that in mind.
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>>127449906
that's a fucking decade away but I was planning on doing that as my last resort anyway so ok
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>>127449937
Sweet Jesus.

The inner jew in me is raging like fuck over losing that much money.
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>>127449937
Holy shit. Is it really possible to drop so much money? I usually dropped like 200 or 1000 macca.
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>>127450738
The more money you have, the more you lose.

>>127450468
Macca Beam is the most dangerous spell of all SMT games. Pretas are the strongest enemy.
>>
What's the name of that character with lines all over her body? I think she's a boss in Strange Journey.
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>>127451839
Asherah.
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>>127451839
Second best demonfu
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>>127451882
Thanks mate.
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Which SMT has the best Lawfags?
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>>127452235
>>127452235
New
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>>127452590
Damn nigga we're only 1 post away from the bump
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Final Post for SMT Final will be good.
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>>127452590
I'm detecting a strong demon ahead. Do you want to go on?
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>>127452590
Little premature.
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>>127449937
By the HP i can tell that Team is at least on 99.

Money isn't that useful if you don't have the Sun to remax with omoikanes until ou get max stats.
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