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>More cryomix autism
>N3X15 rogue, forces map rotation, the absolute madman
>What if Taxi was a snow map?

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server, running a vote script to change maps at round end.
byond://ss13.undo.it:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.nexisonline.net:1336

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>Forum, ban list and logs for vgstation
http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/
http://ss13.pomf.se/index.php/bans
http://ss13.undo.it/logs/

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>Map renders collection: updated nightly
http://ss13.nexisonline.net/img/map-renders/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/

OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/wa9fnYbg
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>>126900725
>>What if Taxi was a snow map?
No you nigger, it wasn't if taxi was snow, it was what if taxi was jungle.
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EH
EH
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>>126900743
>good date borg 10/10
you make me happy to make you happy pally
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Where do I find the existing sprites?
I want to make some for folded plastic bags.
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>>126900987
>folded plastic bags
No assistant should have that much power
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>>126900725
>>126900859
Said it before, I'll say it again.

Taxistation made into a jungle map where Vietcong lurk in the jungle.

The only way past them is to run, fight your way through them, or avoid them.

An alternative to this is adding paths between each station, where VC lurk off the road, encouraging you not to stray from the path.
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>>126901058
Too much work, expect people to implement it in the form of polar bears
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>forced map rotation
Incoming box babies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDIaDS9HhMw
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>>126901179
I would enjoy that too, taxistation being a land map sounds really fun to play on.
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>>126901240
They are already being extremely passiveaggressive in the bug reports. "remove map rotation and I'll consider reporting more".
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Celt and niggly when.
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>>126901058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Beda3kFNjo
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>>126901434
STOP POSTING THIS IMAGE, IT'S SO SHIT
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I want to rail Rail
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Reminder that even if you're not antag, you can still push down the vox and fart on them.
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>>126901343
This, kung is so pathetic. It's the fucking reason why it's forced you cunt, help or go to bay.
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>>126901771
Stop it, Rail.
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>>126901865
>You'll never rail rail with his severed leg
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>>126901773
Too much of a pussy to do it on humans?
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god bless
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>that plasmaman that asked the vox to shit out an egg because he was hungry
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>>126901773
You can do that to humans as nonantag too, you just lose any right to complain if you get dunked.
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>leave shuttle to try pull more people on to escape
>shuttle leaves without me
>pair of wizards out of nowhere
>get to vent frustration of being abandoned by punching one wizard to death when he falls down and strangling the other in space when she falls down

Thank you wizard friends
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>>126901986
Never Forgetti
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>>126901957
>>126902018
I'm just saying, one way or another, you can gas the vox
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>no one called shuttle after nuke ops confirmed
I had to do it for you fags after the power come back on
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>>126901636
your shit :^)
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>>126901986
Is this why the round went on for 2 hours? Why a random syndie walked into the main hall through the mining shuttle, shot a couple of people then presumably died somewhere?

Jesus, what a mess. That prisoner was great.
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>>126902027
wtf
why can you strangle people in places where they shouldn't breathe? makes no sense since strangling is just stopping them from breathibg
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>>126902151
>steal the useless HoP's ID
>be at the comm console typing a large paragraph summing the entire round
>before im done the shuttle is called with a reasoning that's essentially just "lets get out of here"
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>>126902224
Every second spent typing this is another second someone will die.

I was the rd by the way
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>>126902393
I was part of the medbay staff and I really couldn't care less, power was out, air was leaking since early in the round, comms went down more than an hour ago and everyone kept cluttering medbay for some reason while sec claimed that calling the shuttle was impossible.
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>>126902212
The mining shuttle guy was the same as the prisoner.He was the only one,right after comms went down all the other ops died.
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>>126902214
>not being able to strangle people no matter the atmosphere

Its like you don't want people to double suffocate.
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>spawn as assistant for some reason
>in meta, assistants spawn next to some vending machines
>four greyshirts immediately run to the vending machines and start kicking them
>literally before my PDA loads these animals have spontaneously swarmed the innocent vending machines and are already beating the shit out of them until they are completely shattered
>all of them wordlessly walk away, one with a limp
What on Earth did I witness
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>>126902762
Anarchy
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>>126902762
Anon is this your ferret?

its cute
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>>126903362
No, it's my sister's.
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>>126901058
>only way is to run
i do not get it
They are just bunch of stealthy and robust jungle greyshirts
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>>126902574
lmao, so everyone blew themselves up on their ship and he was soul survivor? thats hilarious
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>>126903490
Steal it, anon, you need that ferret meat; you need that greentext.

Do eet.
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>>126902762
What job you choose?
>animals
Spotted bayfag
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>>126904174
>What job you choose?
Spotted lifeweb
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>>126904174
Fuck you, liking animals is normal.

You're only a bayfag if you fuck animals.
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>>126904696
He called greyshirts animals
Usually word animal in such context means retard, brain damaged aspie
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>>126904926
Wouldn't that make him the opposite of a bayfag, then?
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seems russians made time machine from steins;gate
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>>126905001
what are these moonrunes
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>>126904926
But assistants are retarded brain-damaged aspies
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>>126905001
>making large device of mysterious origin and purpose in semipublic area
this gives me ideas
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>>126905204
>>126904926
yeah, I gotta say, assistants are basically animals.

You can even train some to talk like people!
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>>126905001
>that shitty adminbus
Jesus, disgusting
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>>126905409
So salty
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>>126905068
use google translate
Its just some shitty bus with talking goddess microwave oven
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>>126905852
>use google translate
How? Copypasting the text?
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>>126906664
It's not that interesting, this oven is like a gay ass tsaritsa dominatrix or some shit.
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I need something to spend my days with. Think getting into this would be a good use of my life?
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>>126907349
>Think getting into this would be a good use of my life?

No.

I started 4 months ago. I haven't stopped for a single day. I haven't gone out and found another job. I haven't talked to my friends. All I've done is been a waifu once and disappeared into obscurity.

This game will ruin your life.
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Fantastic display of failure for everyone involved.

Also, sorry for that acid lube smoke. The acid wasn't intended. I mashed the buttons and turns out there was some acid left in the beaker.
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>>126907825
honk
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>>126907545
Sounds good to me.
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>tfw 130 IQ

feels good man
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>>126907825
Slipping on lube causes brute damage too, you know.
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>>126907993
>>>/pol/
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>>126908009
Just made me think I should have just made chloral smoke, with a non-lethal dose. Then repeatedly made sleep toxin smoke.
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>>126907349
Fucking run, this will destroy your life
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>>126908152
Sugar reacts with chloral hydrate to make sleep tox, so you'd have sleep tox smoke at best.
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>>126908445
Having used stox smoke, it's shit. The delayed effect isn't worth it. even if you put lube and he runs into a wall while still in the smoke he has plenty of time to go hide or treat himself. It only dunks scrubs which are so unrobust you don't need to stox them.
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>>126908796
why not include ethanol so people are drunk and cannot escape?
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>>126908921
Ethanol will majorly fuck up your liver.
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>>126908921
>Using ethanol for debilitation
Go play with babbies first chem dispenser before you hurt yourself. There's much better options
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>>126909865
I brought it up specifically because he said that it would only work on someone drunk.
I am offended you missed my sass.
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>>126910086
My density is greater than the singulo
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>Join server for the first time, accidentally went botanist
>Asshole wizard knocks me against wall
>Try and find him to beat him with a stun baton I found on the ground
>Robot punches me and knocks me out
>Takes me into a room so I die.

The hell, this was pretty fun but how do I get back in and get a position I like?
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>>126910419
ICK
OCK?
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>>126910419
You start by looking in the top right of your screen. There's a row of buttons. One says rules. Maybe you should read it while you sit out your ban for In character in an out of character place, in this case an imageboard. It's a bannable offense
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>>126910419
Wait for the round to finish and restart. Or wait in-game for someone to revive you. There are no respawns, my friend.

Use the job preferences page and set the job you want to ultra high priority, and don't choose "random job if preferences unavailable" to avoid getting put in a job you don't feel you're ready for.

Also, no talking about the current round outside of the game, that's bannable.
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>tfw still banned from /vg/station for a simple mistake
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>>126910749
>>126910678
Shit my bad, misread how that worked.

I tried doing the preferences but when I got there it just kind of forced me into picking things and that was the only one I saw that seemed the least complicated.
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>>126910907
Spin me a tale of regret for what you did and how you'll never do it again along with your ckey and I'll see what I can do. Pomfmas lasts for just two days more.
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>>126911083
Yeah most new people glaze over the random job if unavailable.
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>>126911103

It's ok, I'll be unbanned tomorrow,

I made 6 bombs, tested one in the bomb range then got called off to take care of shit, the rest of the bombs ended up getting stolen from toxins,

Fast forward 2 hours, after many many bombs have gone off across the station,
I thought all the stolen bombs had gone off, so I decide to check. I test all the detonation codes 1 at a time
turns out one of the bombs was in the backpack of a guy in escape and he never disabled it. BOOM
escape gets blown up, and I get banned for 3 days.

I shouldn't have tested to see if the bombs were still live or active.

I know I made a mistake, and I'll just wait until tomorrow to play, no need to unban.
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>>126911284
I got banned for a week the time I blew up botany and had a month sci jobban
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>>126911284
you can check by looking at the bhangmeter and counting the listed explosions that aren't fuel tanks
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>>126911391

but I didn't mean to blow up escape

and my account age is like 2 years with no negative notes on it

3 day ban, 1 week science ban

it's not that bad compared to other servers, I got perma banned from paradise station for making 3 clowns as HoP

>>126911449
I'm not sure where the bhangometer is, if I want info from it I normally ask the AI, which I guess I could have done, all the more reason I don't deserve to be unbanned yet
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>>126911083
Botanist is okay. If you're new-new, you might want to consider going Assistant, Chaplain, or Cargo Tech so you can get a hang of the basics. They don't have too much responsibility or pressure.

Bartender and Chef are probably good next steps for learning how to mix chemicals and similar. Science, medical, engineering and security jobs are more involved.

If you start as an assistant and want to try an actual job mid-round, try asking the head of personnel for a job change.
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>>126911521
You still blew up a bomb that you didn't know for 100% that was in toxins test site. you got off easy. At least you've leaned from this which is the important part.

In toxins launch
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>>126911449
>>126911521

These bombs would be easy to tell, as they were all 5 destruction radius,

I don't remember the bomb cap on the server, but I've asked admins to disable it in the past as antag science. When I put time and effort into it I can make super strong plasma bombs,
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>>126911614
What's your biggest?
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Which admin has the biggest feet?
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>>126911669

around 12/22/40, that is with super cooling the oxy, without access to a cooling system, eliminating the CO2 from the mix, which takes time and precision, and getting the Plasma, after mixing with oxy as close to the flash point as I could.

I can fast track 6 dirty bombs in 5-10 min that are like 5/11/20, which I think might be the cap on the station at the moment, I haven't asked about bomb caps recently, before a few days ago I haven't done toxins in 4-5 months
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>>126911910
Cap is 7/14/28 cause deityexplosion rework
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>>126911910
cap is 7/14/28
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Celt your lawset needs some major reworking. Infact the AI could have flooded plasma at the beginning of the round and would have gotten away with it.

Lets think about this logically for a second.

"Be someone the crew can look up too and respect"

This has many outcomes. For one we know that the entire lawset revolves around respect.

Who disrepects the most? Humans and other species that are capable of free thinking. If a human disrepects someone then what? Does anything happen? There are no laws in place to prevent human harm so if there are 2 people fighting borgs can't step in. If the borg steps in he'll earn the respect of the man who was getting beat up but lose the respect of the man who got arrested. Is it a mutual respect change between the 2 men? Does the borg have to worry about the man not respecting him if he steps in? He needs to earn the crews respect because the lawset says, "be someone the crew can look up too and respect".

If someone doesn't respect the borg is he allowed to kill the man because the borg needs more respect? If the borg is capable of judging someones respect then surely it itself is capable of respecting others and if that is indeed the case then the AI doesnt need humans to respect it anymore as the "crew" can be defined as the borgs and mommi's. If the borgs are capable of judging respect and thus are capable of giving respect and all humans do is disrespect then the AI can freely murder the humans.

And "look up too" does it mean literally look up or figuratively? Because of the AI is too murder someone and turn them looking up, then surely they'd be looking up to the AI.

Celt pls rework.
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>>126911910

To anyone that doesn't know bomb numbers.

the first number is total destruction, destroys everything in that radius, second number is major damage, third is minor damage. and they are a radius, so that amount of damage in every direction from the bomb.

most bombs I've seen on /vg/ are about 3/6/10 which is what you get from following the guide on how to make toxin bombs on the wiki

>>126912024
good to know, These bombs were quick and dirty, I'm already thinking of a way to make them better without taking up much more time.
if I added another plasma tank to my mix I could probably reach cap doing fast bomb mix,

when I get unbanned I'm thinking of playing miner and trying out the bomb mix I'm thinking of, I'm sure I can find a scientist to let me teach them how to make good bombs.
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>>126912024
>>126912034

What's the plasma flashpoint on this server? I thought it was 200, but my last bombs would have been 180 after mix, I wasn't sure if they would go off but they did.
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>>126912289
373.15K
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>Wizard kills Yahir and tells me not to clone them
>I have the head and the body so [medbay trickery intensifies]
>Wizard bodyswaps me and pretends to be me, decapitating Yahir again
>Get cloned, nobody believes I'm bodyswapped except a borg who doesn't care, and my trusty virologist, who provides me with one chloral autoinjector
>decapitate "me", pacid head.
>borg arrests me for murder even though it knows I was bodyswapped because "you broke a treaty!"
>conveniently ignores the murder of Yahir

AAAAAAGHHHHHH
If the plasmaman I was treating at the time happens to be reading this, I'm sorry you were confined to the wild ride.
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>>126912289

Also, I really like the /vg/ toxins, most servers have super easy version of toxins, where they have gas coolers to get chilled oxy easily, and their combustion chamber has pipes you can run gas through, so you don't have to worry about CO2, you can just make fire and pass Plasma through the pipes to heat it.

>>126912507
that can't be right or else my bombs the round I got banned wouldn't have gone off at all, unless my math is wrong
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>>126912539
Yo celt you gonna respond to me ripping your lawset apart or just green text all day?

>>126912161
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If anyone ever needed proof that N3X15 is a shitcoder rivaling those of TG, now you have it.

No wonder he can't hold a job.
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>>126912567

nevermind, I was thinking in Celsius, 373.15K is 100C

that is good to know, I should be able to make quick / dirty plasma bombs that reach bombcap super fast now knowing that.
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What is your favorite admin note?
Mine's : [07:00:06] HELP: DoctorMad/(DoctorMad) (?) (PP) (VV) (SM) (JMP) (CA) : Oh wow its the epic "shut down OOC to masturbate all (?) over it" meme the /vg/station administrators love to perpetuate. I wonder if this is what a NSA officer feels like, jerking off to making people shut up because its the only modicum of power you'll ever have. Fucking pathetic, d3athrow was wrong when he decided to hire you, you just ruin everything you touch to feel like you have some imaginary power over imaginary people over a shitty BYOND game. You're censoring a fucking BYOND chat window, what kind of shit is this? Do you really enjoy censoring something so small and unimportant? Go fuck yourself with a rake or something mate. by DragonBro (What) on Mon, December 28th of 2015 Remove
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>>126912632
>>126912161
Dedpoo was the one who put it in the game. Your argument is also based around making the assumption that each person represents the entire "the crew", which is blatantly false.
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>>126912161
He doesn't need to rework shit as he can just ban the AI if it goes against his interpretation of the laws.
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>>126912712

The most recent / maybe only note on my account is wrong, it makes it sound like I blew up shit on purpose thinking the bomb was in arrivals, when I had no idea where the bomb was and was pretty sure there wasn't a bomb

I'm the 6th ban note on
http://ss13.pomf.se/index.php/bans

when I can log back in I'll talk to an admin about changing it
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>>126912759
1 person does not represent the entire crew. But the lawset revolves around respect. If 1 person is capable of respecting the AI then so is that 1 person capable of disrespecting the AI. If the AI is not respected then it is breaking its law of being respected. But what determines respect? If the AI intervenes in a bar fight is it respected or disrespected? There has to be a certain level of respect to disrespect ratio or the respect cannot be measured by a simple law.

>>126912840
So if I erase all the laws and put in LAW 1. DONT FLOOD PLASMA

The admins can now ban the AI when it goes on a killing spree because my interpretation of the law was, "DONT FLOOD PLASMA OR KILL ANYONE"
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Which admin has the biggest feet?
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>>126913074
You're not thinking in the right mindset:
>Will THE CREW respect + look up to me if I interfere with this fight?
>Will THE CREW respect + look up to me if I flood plasma?
>Will THE CREW respect + look up to me if I release this prisoner?
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>>126913336
Yes but you also need to think about the disrespect implications that also has because if you arn't respected then you cant be looked up too and are breaking the law

>Will THE CREW respect - and look down on me if i interfere with this fight?
>Will THE CREW respect - and look down on me if i flood plasma
>Will THE CREW respect - and look down on me if i release this prisoner

I'm just saying that there needs to be a way to measure the respect and disrespect ratio or else the law doesn't work and can be thought of it in round ending ways such as if the crew is capable of mass disrespect then i will have broken my laws so i must kill all the humans and other creatures so my respect may not go down.

Maybe a little more clarification on whats respectful and whats not would be on order for the law.
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So, is it okay to kill the antagonists?
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>>126912539
i hope you enjoyed your lawset, celt
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>>126914161
I have never intentionally killed an antag.
I just run away and calling security instead of fighting them when they start shit.
If cornered, I just aikido disarm-throw them to get away and call for help.
I am the worst Scientist.
i don't even carry a gun or chloral.
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>>126914161
no when the esword come out you say "*faint or banned of powergaming
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>>126913141
Semi-related but I froze mine off today because I forgot both my warm socks and wallet and only found out about it when I was half an hour away from home.
/blog
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>>126914419
>I am the worst Scientist.
>i don't even carry a gun or chlora
Men of sciene shouldn't carry guns anyways
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>>126914419
>scientists that dont validhunt or carry a backpack of AEGs or rapid syringe guns full of chloral
You fags are absolute cancer.
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Roleplaying as a retarded grey chef is the best shit.
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prepare for some bitching
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>>126914161
Yes but don't unless they're killing people too. If 20 nonsec validhunt all the time and shit all over non-murderbone/stealth singuloose shittags then that's what you end up forcing.
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According to Dr.Celt captains don't get any power to defend their position as the head of command on the station, a round of applause for thee for failing to understand the point of a captain.
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>>126915237
>he hasn't read SOP and chain of command
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>>126915237
celt always a cunt and will be a cunt, no surprise there
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>>126915082
i was trying my best to protect you but i can hardly even protect myself
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>>126915237
bruh, you welderbombed a ton of people who were trying to stop the AI from locking down the entire crew on an extended round
its called shitter safari for a reason
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>>126915351
I loved you bro, the knife called for me though.
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>>126915472
i know how it feels to want to remove human, but if you dont heed my warnings you'll get the ol b8 and bannu
if the mime had bled out he couldve ahelped you and gotten you into serious trouble depending on who was adminning at the time
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>>126914780
That's the thing.
Everyone immediately revs up for war "just in case."
Being a chloralshitting stunlocking walking tank 5 minutes in is boring and makes combat thoughtless.
I'd rather improvise and use my environment to my advantage.
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http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2260
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>>126915443
Two people who committed treason, nearly killed the captain and welderlocked him - then shot a weldertank nearby woith the last round under presumption they were traitors subverting the AI
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>>126915237
Don't welderbomb, don't lethal when you can just stun cablecuff
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>>126916589
No rounds left, dying and no cuffs - meanwhile other guys were armed, had shields and weren't injured

Are we really reaching a point though were we need to meta game tasers and cuffs all the time?
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>>126916735
that's powergaming

and yes, it's always been at that point if you value living
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>>126916793
It's both, you are making the assumption something bad is about to happen and that you need to carry a taser and cables at all times.

I simply don't like to do that
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>>126916735
You deserved it. You aren't allowed to do whatever the fuck you want just because you're the captain. You're accountable for your actions. If you be a major pain in the ass, expect the crew to fuck you over. They didn't overthrow you because "FUGGIN COMDOM REEEEEE", you were killed for being a major faggot who was pissing off and annoying the crew. Learn to play any kind of leadership role BEFORE you play captain, this stinks of "Can captain talk on security radio?"
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>>126916850
that's fine, I don't either

but it's powergaming, not metagaming
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>>126916864
Actually yes you are, as long as you aren't breaking rules captains are the head of the station, they can do whatever they want. The crew may not like it but captains can do anything.

And the crew is welcome to overthrow captains too, and the captain is welcome to fight being overthrown as he is the head honcho.

The issue is that the part where the captain can defend his rights is in dispute
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>>126917014
>being a shithead so people try to kill you, and then killing them for trying to kill you

Son, where I'm from, that's banbaiting
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>>126917014
>Captain I'm going to reset the shitty laws you uploaded
>TIME TO WELDERBOMB EVERYONE TO PROVE MY RIGHT TO BE THE HEAD OF THE STATION
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>As a non antagonist captain during an extended round, uploaded numerous laws to the AI along the lines of "4. Honkies must be oppressed, black men are true masterrace - make sure that is known by the crew whenever there is doubt senpai.", and when these laws were reset and the captain ''imprisoned'' (welded into a room), thought the best way to resolve the situation was to welderbomb all the people resetting the AI

2hotdogs
chiot
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>>126917067
Not really.
There are handcuffs in this game, and peaceful means, breaking into AI and uploading new laws and then shooting the captain reeks of traitor to me.

>>126917147
I was dying, they were suspected traitors, it was all I could do other than just die or end up welderlocked.
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>>126917219
I doubt it, considering Apeh is an ex-host of /v/station.
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>>126917225
Blowing people up is not pacifying them nonlethaly
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>>126917315
Did you miss the part where I was dying and out of ammo?
The guys had guns and shields, I had one roung and was dying and tried to escape but was welded in.

Best I could do is die, wait for them to stun me again and perhaps be a traitor after all or use my last round to take us all out away from anywhere major - knowing full well we can all be cloned.
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>bans for welderbombing
It takes only 3 sheets of metal to fix 4 breached turfs, and you can do it in five seconds. I mean it's still bad, and people who do it for the lulz / because somebody stole their hat should be banned - but come the fuck on, the captain's life was in danger, he was mortally wounded and surrounded by two heavily armed traitors

>>126917147
Aren't you a special one
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>>126917404
>I was out of ammo
>I had one round left

Contradicting yourself.

Which laws did they upload that were causing enough trouble to warrant being bombed? Remember, this is all the chickens coming home to roost, since no one would be trying to change the laws if you hadn't first.

>>126917497
>>>EXTENDED
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>>126917548
Yes, 1 round left of an energy gun

What you want me to tase one and let the other kill me? What would that have done?

I had no cuffs so tasing would have been ridiculous.

They were suspected of potentially law 0ing the AI as people were yelling on chat and were armed - adding two and two together results in the only option to kill us all in a swift sheet and then find out if they were traitors upon cloning, better than wasting my last round to tase, die and then have them run free
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>>126917548
Now you're just grasping at straws buddy :)
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>>126917661
What about calling for backup? What about investigating and confirming wether or not the AI actually was subverted before you blew two people up? There are a million alternatives to blowing people up

>>126917730
Nice smiley meme
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>>126917757
I know this is a bait but I'll bite

I'd love to see you try to investigate and confirm whether or not the AI's subverted while being welded in a locker and surrounded by two armed dudes
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>>126917757
Because I was being attacked then and there, you want me to stand still and yell for backup all of a sudden?

No sec was on except for one warden, it was just me with access and the two had broken the doors to sci/sil so no one could arrive there, then AI had also bolted us in the room (or they had welded it shut - wasn't too sure)

I was under attack, ended up nearly dying in server room, limped out half blind and before I could be shot down again I used the last round to blow us up

How can you say that wasn't the best solution in the scenario when I was dying, there was two armed people who just broke into AI and uploaded laws and I was welded in?

You are pushing the realms of plausible action here
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>>126916396
>poor scenario handling by Dr.Celt
>says the guy who welderbombed
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>>126915237
Nobody has any power or control over a round. That's just how the game is. The most you have as a captain or any lesser head of staff is influence. You can suggest that people do things, and step in when they decide not to do them. You can't hold a gun to their heads and make the proverbial horses drink the proverbial water. That's how you get Gaddafi'd in a main hallway.

I would think that someone who has played and even hosted for a number of years would have more sense than trying to pull that kind of silly gimmicky shit and expect the crew to just play along. People might play the game to mess with people but nobody plays to get fucked with. You needlessly impeded what could have been a passable round for le funnies at everyone else's expense and think you're in the right just because you clicked captain instead of clown. The job ban is well deserved and I hope you fuck off to some other shithole server.
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>>126917225
>>126917927
>>126917896
>>126917757
>>126917548
Post ckeys so we can be metafriends
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>>126916396
desu senpai you should know better than this, Apeh. If you're gonna be a shit Captain, except to get treated like shit.
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>>126918000
Senaat1
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>>126917887
>>126917896
You have all access. Go to medbay, get patched up, rearm, appoint some sec (who the fuck tries to do a retarded law gimmick as captain with no security to help them), and check the AI.

>>126918000
DrCelt
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>>126918000
DeadPoolJ
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>>126918064
>Go to medbay

The doors were welded/bolted. The first thing I did was try to run out to heal myself but I couldn't. So I turned and used my last round before I could be shot.
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>>126917982
Never said people won't rebel.

Doesn't justify the ban for defending my captainship when I had no other options.
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>>126918148
But how in the everloving mother of fuck could you go to medbay, see that it's closed, and then 180 quickscope a weldertank.

Sounds like you're making this up as you go along tbqh family
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>>126918218
The door out of AI was bolted numbnuts not medbay. I only limped 3 steps

i realised that and they were closer to the AI, they came back towards me (one was armed) - I presume they thought my gun was empty too - then I pulled my gun out which had one round left and shot the weldertank presuming them to be traitors and myself having no way to escape.
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>>126918218
>I go back through and attempt to escape but the AI bolts me in

Can't read, famposter? I'm not surprised haha
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>>126918217
Should have just surrendered with dignity or killed yourself at that point. The damage was done and you lost.
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>be a captain
>upload bitchy laws
>act like a bitch whole round
>be surprised when people try to overthrow you
>as a final bitch act welderbomb
pottery
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>>126918350
And sure I mentioned that - but as I said I suspected they may be traitors since they had broke into AI, fucked up the whole microstation doors (taxi map) and were armed and people were saying that AI had been law 0d

Now I could have just gave up and died but then what if they were traitors? They could kill more people.

I figured best to take them all with me with a bang, the place was easily repairable and not station necessary and we could be cloned then check afterwards.
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>>126918282
Your story is getting more spaggetti the more you post. Take a minute to stop and collect yourself before you post again.

>>126918319
The AI had bolted him in, but the he was still able to get a line of sight on his two attackers?
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>>126918460
>I'll kill them to remove the maybe traitors
>But if theyre fine we'll just clone lmao

That's like killing someone as sec because they did some traitory stuff, getting bwoinked, and then cloning them because they weren't.

Remember, killing antags before you KNOW they are antags is still nonantag killing.
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>>126918471
The story is straightfoward as fuck, I've argued past every post and each statement I've shown exactly why I couldn't have acted differently

Line of sight on what? One attacker had a shield. I had two guns - we were passing shots and I just got tased first in the gun fight and one of my guns got stolen - my other energy gun had one round left.

>>126918554
So people breaking into AI, changing laws whilst being armed, assaulting the captain, locking the captain in a locker, then bolting the doors to the room isn't antagonist like?

I'm starting to think that I was in quite right to act how I did in that scenario and I'm just getting banned for forming an amusing rebellion from some laws that DrCelt is grudging on.
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>>126918651
>upload shit laws, expect rebellion
>people rebel
>nonantag bomb them
>get banned
>FUGGGIN ADMINS GRUDGING ME REEEEE

Fantastic logic, my man. Now I see why /v/station is still around today.
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>>126918651
>I'm starting to think that I was in quite right to act how I did in that scenario and I'm just getting banned for forming an amusing rebellion from some laws that DrCelt is grudging on.


You always thought this, though. Look at your fucking appeal.

You act as if anyone liked your le hilarious black man laws.
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>>126918764
You're implying that uploading shit rules isn't allowed in someway, or that in doing so you are now allowing random staff members to do very traitorous things
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>>126918460
>what if they were traitors?
That's literally what they were asking in regard to you.
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>>126918764

Are these your posts too? I think you forgot your pills my man
>>126918445
>>126917147
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>>126918853
So you're saying they are allowed to run around with guns primes, break into the AI and basically kill the captain but any retaliation to them isn't allowed?

Hell I did nothing compared to what they did - all I did was a last resort to ensure that as assumed traitors they wouldn't get away so easily
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>>126918850
No, I'm implying that blowing people up after they change your shit laws will get you banned.

lrn2read

>>126918918
literally all me
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>>126918918
all me
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>>126918918
every single one was me
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>>126918971
Ignoring the fact that the people in question committed very traitorous actions and there was no possible way to escape them other than simply dying and letting them loose... Then sure


Why don't we just remove welders being bombable if this is how we react when people blow them, seriously - if we can't blow them on people acting super-traitor like and people get banned for merely sneezing next to them whilst allowing people to be welded in lockers and rooms then maybe we should just remove them
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>>126919076
>welderlockering someone is as destructive as nonantag welderbombing

I can't tell if you're being retarded on purpose
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>>126919230
Welder locking is worse for a player.

You can repair welder bombs, and the welder blew up in a very non-vital area damaging only the room next to AI. And it only harmed the two armed suspected traitors.

Welder locking someone in a welded shut door means they are stuck out of the game.
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>>126919230
Welderbombs can be fixed with 3 sheets of metal in less than 10 seconds tho
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>>126919313
it only takes 2 mins to open it
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>>126919313
>type resist
bam problem solved
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>>126919313
>what is pressing resist
>what is getting someone to come let you out

>>126919335
The room gets exposed to space, people get hurt (or die), atmos takes time to return, pipes/cables broken, important shit might get broken

>>126919313
>nonantag bombing is okay as long as it's non-vital

time to bomb the bar everyshift
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>>126919359
>>126919346
Implying you can resist being welded in a room with two gun totering people who just hacked AI
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>>126919482
Lewd
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>>126919482
>allowing yourself to be welded into a locker

wow nice
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>>126919471
>>126919520

You're a fucking retard
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>>126919482
;Someone come help me at [room], the door is welded and there's people here with guns

WOW SO HARD
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It is interesting how it is being ignored that being stuck in a room with two people with guns who just used stunlocks to weld you in a locker and with a suspected subverted AI is apparently absolutely fine and isn't worthy of suspected traitoring.

>>126919568
Love to see you stop and type that out in a small place with tases flying around
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>>126919565
What about my post was retarded, Jack? Please elaborate rather than resorting to ad hominem.
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>>126919643
But apeh, you said you were locked in a welder.
Tasers cant hurt you in a locker, friendo.
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>>126919729
You can have a cookie then, I simply did not think to type whilst in a locker as I was prepping an adhelp but after checking admins online it said no so I just waited
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>>126919643
The interesting part is that you somehow seems to think you weren't acting suspiciously at all.
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>>126919649
There isn't a point because you'll just go back to
>be a captain
>upload bitchy laws
>act like a bitch whole round
>be surprised when people try to overthrow you
>as a final bitch act welderbomb and kill two innocent dindu non-antags
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>>126919812
>trying to save an AI asking for help is suspicious
u wot, how in heavens

>>126919807
>>126919729
To note too I will add that the doors to AI were welded and access to the station was fucked up too - so again I figured that yelling for help wouldn't be much help and was
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>>126919807
>admins help, these two guys welderlockered me for fucking with the AI ban they

>>126919816
Come on Jack, you can't just call someone a retard and not have a reason WHY they're a retard.
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>>126919816
>be a retarded captain
>expect not to get ousted

i havent played for months and i still want to say fuck you dont play captain
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>>126919902
>Admits mistake about not calling for help
>ACTUALLY WAIT NO THERE WAS NO POINT SEE I WAS ALLOWED TO BLOW THOSE PEOPLE UP
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>>126919914
>implying fucking with AI is anything to note
Captains can fuck with AI, they are captain - this implies on /vg/ you aren't allowed to change AIs laws as captain - is that what you are saying?

>>126919920
I've played for years longer than the majority here
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>>126919816
>>126919920
See? :)
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>be lizard
>
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>>126920001
>suspect they are traitors
>they commit traitorous acts
>commit multiple crimes which allows execution according to space law
>execute them with my last dying movements the only way I know how
>"lets pretend they weren't acting like antags because you are allowed to commit any crime but welderbombing, even in dire scenarios"
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>>126920005
>years longer than the majority here
>still a little bitch
step it up son
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>>126920130
Just pointing out that Dr Celt was wrong to ban in such a scenario and he acted in haste because he grudged the laws I uploaded.

The fact we've been back and forth asking about why i didn't do x and I've said clearly why multiple times suggest there wasn't even a proper reason for the ban as my only alternative was to simply just die and do nothing against suspected traitors
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>>126920204
consider that you were also a suspected traitor
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>>126920005
Jesus apeh, your reading comprehension is balls.

I am saying, for the 4th time now, that if you upload shitty laws to the AI, do not be suprised when people try and stop you from fucking with it.

Also,
>>implying fucking with the AI is anything to note
Um, yes, fucking with the AI IS something to take note of

Do you think it's not?

>>126920112
Welderbombing is not an execution

Space law is a guideline, not a concrete ruleset

They were changing the AI's laws, supposedly subverted them, although you haven't provide any evidence that they did. Keep in mind that people yelling over the radio is NOT proof. If it was, the AI would be getting carded every round because it didn't open a door right away.

>>126920204
>admins grudging me

Why is it that every shitter who gets banned and has the thread shit on them (Sarca, doublesausage, Leon, etc) always fall back on
>ITS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST ME
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Non-antag welderbombing of non-antags is a ban. End of discussion.
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>>126920327
How? Tell me one thing I did which suspected me of that.

I came to defend the AI and tased one which had an AI chip. That was it.

>>126920358
> although you haven't provide any evidence that they did. Keep in mind that people yelling over the radio is NOT proof

What a joke of an excuse here - if anyone breaks into AI they are liable to be instantly arrested - and I went to do that but they brought out GUNS and began firing shots. That is enough to think "yeah these people aren't just here for some fun laws" - and then welder-locked me. That is enough to suspect strongly they were there maliciously.

And yes, from the posts in this thread iit is pretty evident Celt rushed to ban because he didn't like the laws - he even slapped them on the ban reason.
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>>126920525
You uploaded a stupid law

if people removing said stupid law are traitors, then so are you
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>>126920501
But they were suspected traitors, you can't prove anyone is a traitor. And people act like shitters to appear like traitors.

What a ridiculous reasoning for a post.

>>126920552
Captains are allowed to upload any law they want, they have access - these people did not.
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>>126920610
The crew is allowed to mutiny when the captain is stupid
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>>126920610
The HoP & CE didn't have access to upload laws?
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>>126920501
>muh non-antag captain who literally welderbombed two dindu non-antags
Wow retard
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>>126920610
>Captain is allowed to upload any law they want.

The captain is also allowed to get lynched if he does so. It's called being valid.
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>>126920525
Holy shit Apeh is English not your first language? Did you have any tangible proof that the AI was subverted, aside from people yelling over the radio?

With regards to >>126920327,
I'm pretty sure they ment when you uploaded the laws, people might have thought YOU were a traitor, not when you got welderlockered.

One last thing, how in the fuck could someone "grudge a lawset"? You were banned for nonantag welder bomb as a captain, you scrote.
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>>126919816
>get welded in locker
shitter
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>>126920501
But Senaat, they welderlockered him! AND they changed his le funny pol meme lawset! That's clearly justification to blow them up as a nonantag!
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>>126920631
Sure, but when they break into AI armed while people are shouting abut a law 0 is cause for concern of traitoring going down

>>126920696
Since when was a captain changing rules a valid salad target - you might as well not have a captain if thats how /vg/ is deciding to treat it

>>126920697
>Did you have any tangible proof that the AI was subverted
The fact these people came armed was enough to suspect there was more to it.

>people might have thought YOU were a traitor
Seriously thats a weak argument, considering all the laws were clearly light hearted and didn't do anything - you're really stretching there
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>>126920858
is seems you're playing captain, but you wanted to play clown
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>people falling for the fake senaat meme
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>>126920916
I guess when an admin does a fun event then they are wanting to play admin but actually playing clown?
What kind of point is that?

A captain has access to the laws with the purpose to create interesting laws - the point of a captain is he quite literally rules the station, if he says something it stands unless he gets taken out or vast mutiny happens. In the scenario above it was two people breaking in to AI with guns - enough for execution - AND suspected to be subverting as an added bonus
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>>126920858
But Apeh, if the laws were lighthearted and dindunuffin, why were there roaming lynch squads, like you said in your appeal?

You said multiple times that you had guns, do you think people are going to try and change the AI and not bring their own? Were you expecting to walk in and find them unarmed? Because if you were, that's seriously niave on your part.
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>>126920858
>lighthearted

You mean "proof that you were an incompetent shithead who had no right to be Captain". Law changes are serious fucking business, and using them to enforce an awful gimmick is grounds for demotion at the very least.

And people shout about law 0 every time the AI doesn't instantly open a door for them, you're as gullible as you are unfunny. If anything, I'd say Celt was being too fucking nice.
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>>126921039
Unlawful Modification of Silicon Laws is only a 10 minute brigging, not grounds for execution
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>>126921039
>A captain has access to the laws with the purpose to create interesting laws.

No, no, NO!

The laws are there to help the crew and nothing else. They aren't toys for your amusement and never will be, nor is the Captain all-powerful as you assume him to be. You have an obligation to serve the station and CentComm- you refused to do so in favor of a /pol/-tier gimmick and paid the price for stupidity.
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>>126921039
>I should be allowed to dictate the fun as captain

The captain exists to manage the heads, who manage the departments, as well as protect the high value items in his office.

Captain is NOT an all access pass to giggle-n-griff, as much as you may think it is.

You keep saying that you were fully expected mutiny. If so, why did you do the gimmick? So people would try and overthrow you, and you could attack them back? Like I said before, that reeks of banbaiting. When the crew did try and fix the AI, you were outdone, the AI was changed and you threw a hissy fit, nonantag bombing the process.
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>>126921064
>"roaming lynch squads"
Just two people

Good amount were acting it out, and a good amount were lightly rebelling, two grudgemeisters went full geared up powergame mode which appeared very much to be traitoring it up instead from their actions.

>>126921068
>awful gimmick is grounds for demotion at the very least.
I'll take pulling things out my ass for 100 Jim

You can't just "demote" a captain, just mutiny against him and strip his rank since a captain rules the station - a captain can create any laws he fancies and the station abides by them unless the captain gets replaced either by rebellion or not.

>>126921215
They did that on top of assaulting a head, grand trespass, grand theft, welding doors, preventing access to a whole sub-station and treason.
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Are AI law changes logged? Can we see what his laws were, and the "law 0"s that the two other people uploaded?
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>>126921064
>if the laws were lighthearted and dindunuffin, why were there roaming lynch squads

His laws mentioned black/white races, and if you can't see how that could trigger some players then you must be an imbecile
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>>126921328
None of those are grounds for execution

Abuse of Power and Grand Sabotage, which a Captain giving the AI a law to oppress the crew fall under, are worthy of a demotion and execution, respectively.
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>>126921328
>a captain rules the station - a captain can create any laws he fancies and the station abides by them unless the captain gets replaced either by rebellion or not.

No, he does NOT. You went mad with power and I pray you never come near a position of command again.
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>>126921439
So wait is space law a guideline or a concrete ruleset?
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>>126921249
>>126921245
I wasn't aware /vg/ became bay now. I have played for something along the lines of 6-7 years and have hosted numerous servers, the captains point is there to rule the station - yes he is obliged to follow nanotrasen to a degree but he can also rebel if he so risks.

How fucking bay have we become to say a captain HAS TO act like a very generic stand in and is not allowed to use any of the things created in the game for the sole purpose of making rounds different.

>So people would try and overthrow you, and you could attack them back? Like I said before, that reeks of banbaiting.

To see how people would react - and to see what a new captain would do - I wouldn't have cared if I got tased and turned into a permabrigged nobody - the scenario was set to see how the other crew handles each other. Things changed when people arrived with guns and suspicions of subverting AI
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>>126921512
>Suspicion of subverting the AI

no
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>>126919902
It's not about helping an AI, it's about you uploading some asinine law for no real reason. If you upload terrible, terrible laws all you're doing is proving you're either a terrible, terrible Captain or an antag.
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>guy gets cucked out of his hosting gig by the thread
>takes it out on us years later by being a powertripping autist
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>>126921595
We really have become bay mk2 haven't we
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>>126921678
No, we've become NoX mk2 apparently.
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>>126921678
>WHY CAN'T I UPLOAD A DUMB LAW WITHOUT RESISTANCE FUCKING BAYBIES

I vote to increase the length of ban
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>>126921778
He expected resistence though, hes upset because the admins have changed space law and head role meaning
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>shit I'm getting my ass handled in an argument should I do
>I know I should insult that retarded faggot by calling him a cuck and an autist, and post a meme frog! That'll show him!
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>>126921328
There's that word again
>grudge
Come the fuck on, Apeh. I'm starting to think you're actually 2hotdogs. You weren't grudged, two players had enough of your shit and tried to put an end to it. Like so many people have tried to tell you, captaincy is not a free ride to do whatever you want, and have every player in the game bend to your will. If you would be kind enough to actually read my post, I explained to you that the captain manages the heads and protects the disk + spare + laser gun.

>>126921510
Guideline, although it's a pretty well followed guideline. People tend to be a bit flexible with times, i.e, sending some greyshit who just keeps being a turd in for 30 minutes, rather than spacelaw's 12.


>>126921512
Ask any admin. In fact, ask any decent player. The captain does not rule the station with an iron fist. He delegates. Sure he can run gimmicks, but running gimmicks that people do not like wil get a target painted on your back. Go play a God game if unending power is all you want.

>I was okay with getting taken out of the round
>Except I wasnt and had to blow people up

You are so narrowminded and stubborn that it's not even entertaining to see you shit up the thread. Sarca is insane and he knows it, his TG posting is atleast interesting, reading their changelog.

2hotdogs knows he's a fucking turd, and embraces it. His shitposting can even be funny.

But you are just an annoyance. The word count won't let me continue.

TL;DR, you're retarded
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>>126921826
>he expected resistance
>just not armed resistance, or any worthwhile resistance
If I'm understanding the scenario, it was the CE and HoP who came to change the laws. Seems head meaning is being defended here.
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>>126921848
Looks like you really have forgotten the point of a captain, rest in peace sweetly /vg/

And may you have many fun filled rounds of doing the same chore and borderline powergaming things as DrCelt believes captains should do.
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>>126922045
>a captain means I can do what I want no matter what

eat shit and die
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>>126922118
Your pills buddy
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>>126922178
nice argument
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>>126921949
Holy fuck people, the point of heads and the captain are not difficult to understand

>WHAT HEADS AND THE CAPTAIN DO
>Ensure their subordinates are working well
>Help their subordinates by ordering crates/opening doors they do not have access to
>Teaching new players to their department how to work there
>Delegate tasks properly
>Communicate with their subordinates and other heads

>WHAT HEADS AND CAPTAINS DO NOT DO
>Play [head/captain]curity
>Use their access as a license to griff
>Act as the supreme leader of all space
>Believe they are above the law
>Reign over other head's departments (assuming that their is no head for that department on station, in which case heads may sometimes help out in other departments)
>In general, be a hinderance to teh crew

>>126922045
Please, tell us what you think a captain should be. In detail, objectively, without resorting to memes or ad hominem.

Suggesting that we do not know how captain works, without giving us an insight to your idea of what a captain is achieves nothing.
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>>126922234
Better than "eat shit and die"
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>>126922268
I think you should define it as what they should and shouldn't do.
Otherwise that's the complete opposite of what happens on station and what they actually do.
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>>126922357
It's not my fault if you can't separate the insult from the argument before it
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>>126922268
He already did: in his mind it's a cross between all-access assistant, being SUPREME KING OF TEH STATION, and a license to force shitty gimmicks that fail even at making the round fun.
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>>126922268
>all rounds should be the same and captains should never try a gimmick on my job simulator game in space
Kill yourself you no fun faggot
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>>126922439
Fun captains are better than shit
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>>126922453
>>126922495
>new gimmick
>oppress the honkies

dude lmao
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>>126922548
s-stop memeing on my precious server!
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>>126922548
ur shite and shud kil urself lmao memes xD
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mice are the best.
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>>126916735
We passed that point like 4 years ago. I feel naked without an extinguisher and a bottle
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>>126922797
>play nothing but medbay for 3 years
>literally don't know what to do without a health analyzer on my person

help
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to the guy asking about the clown
>took clown out to airlock because there was a lynch mob and i must not cause harm through inaction
>clown eventually died
>took clown to operating room
>revived with paddles
>attempted surgery to repair lungs
>lungs were not actually problem
>sewed back up
>attempted surgery to repair brain
>fucked it up
>sewed clown back together
>clown died
>clone clown
>clown scrambles to cryo
>pull him out
>drag to operating table
>begin sex change
>clown dies due to untreated radiation
>clone clown again
>take him to cryo, fully heal him
>take him to operating room
>take out his brain
>run to robotics
>put brain in MMI
>take MMI
>put it back in airlock
>leave

this took about an hour
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>>126922417
Yeah, you're right. My B.

>>126922453
Anyone can do a gimmick. The difference between in a good gimmick and a bad one is that a good gimmick is fresh, original, and affects the round in a positive way.

Let me give you some examples of bad gimmicks
>Cargonia (done to death, often impacts the rest of the round negetively (cargo focuses on their autism fort rather than collecting orders))
>Any racism gimmick (also done to death, no one wants to hear you go on and on about gas the vox this and fuck the niggers that)
>Chef/Bartender only making meme food/drinks (boring, done to death)

>Assistant runs a store (done to death, not all that much to sell anyway)

>Caveman gimmick (boring, not much elbow room for fun other than "GRRR BREAK THINGS")

>Nigger gimmicks (ditto)

Just a view examples.

>Kill yourself you no fun faggot
Ad hominem

>inb4 FUGGIN SJWS I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KILL ALL NIGGER

I get it, /pol/ is hip, it's happening. The problem is that your gimmick is boring, and everyone has seen it done better a thousand times. Anyone can run a gimmick, you don't need to be captain to do so.

Please try and explain to me what a good head/captain is this time without resorting to ad hominem and memes.
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>>126922854
>He can't examine people for wounds.
You're a shit doctor m8
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>>126917757
It was lowpop taxi. The people leading the revolt were the ones that would be his backup.
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>>126922268
You've listed a good lot of responsibilities for the heads, but you seem to forget about your own: all members of a department are to obey their department's head, which happens much less often than heads doing their duties
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>>126922958
this is a broken man
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>>126917661
>Always type out my laws
>Everyone loses their shit
Metagamers are the worst.
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>>126922885
>all gimmicks are boring and done to death
cool
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>OOC talks of a new tech type, Precursor Tech, from Xenoarch finds
I'm very excited.
I hope to mass produce things like Varia Suits and other neat stuff for the station in the future.
You know, give Xenoarch more of a purpose than collecting seeds and useless pink crystals.
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What the fuck, I'm crashing every time I try to launch Dream Seeker to connect to any server for anything.
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>meta
>taxi
>meta
>taxi
just fuck my server up senpai
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>>126923130
byond is so shitty
ironically running it in WINE works better for me than running it in straightup windows
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I'm the friggen sawbones
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>>126923201
I swear, I think it's crashing from the ad starting to play.
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>>126922961
This, people should listen to their heads. More often than not, they will be more experianced and more knowledgeable than you in the department. Of couse, if the RD is asking you for AEGs 2 minutes into the round as a scientist, let him know that ain't happening.

>>126922958
Thanks for displaying your ability for properly argue a point.

>>126923078
That was a list of overdone gimmicks. Remeber anon, be creative. Don't keep scraping the bottom of the "HURRR WE POL STATION NOW" barrel, make a new barrel. Make a new gimmick. Be a doctor who only heals via the syringe gun. Be an engineer who creates an SME powered by assistants lobbing floor tiles. Be a clown who gives people shoes, rather than stealing them. I'm just spitballing here. Be creative, bring something new to this space table. Don't be this guy >>126923295

>>126923089
Is it in the game? Or just ideaguy stuff?
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>>126923195
>muh box
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>>126923357
Ideaguy stuff, but an admin wants to make Xenoarch more useful.
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>>126923308
>>126923201
YEP, it was the ad causing BYOND to crash.
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>>126923357
y u not have kild self yet
rofl
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>>126919568
There was pretty much nobody to help him
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>>126923451
I fixed it by turning on ActiveX filtering in IE.
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>>126920204
Let it go, it's not Apeehstation anymore. things aren't handled IC all the time. It's a hugbox now.
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>>126923448
People have wanted to make xenoarch worthwhile for the looooongest time now. Please tell me it was a good admin wanting to fix it.
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>>126923089
Fuck no. There's already too much memeshit.
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>>126923357
Heads have been greyshit with +access for entire years now.They have and deserve zero respect unless what they're asking for is sane. their rank holds 0 weight when all they have to do is exist for 14 days to play head
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>>126923792
It was chocolatemoose
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>>126923895
most heads are generally very good at the role though

especially CEs and CMOs
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>>126924160
The ones who are bad at the command roles are almost always either weeded out via jobbans or choose not to play them when they realize that they can't handle it.
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>>126924160
Depends entirely on the player. Petnavi played and snagged cmo all the time for weeks while being unable to handle 3/4 of medbay work. On the other hand, yred ran medbay for weeks and was very good. Outside of staticfags maining a head role, the head is by and large very poor
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thoughts on misuterii high?
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>>126924776
Huh?

>>126923792
I only know how to edit, not make changelogs or include new files without including everything changed by others since so I've been more or less totaled.
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>>126923089
>Mass produce varia suits

About that

One of the first things I tried to sprite for the game was a varia suit (Which ended up all out of proportion and the colours were ugly), and have recently gone back to it to try again with what I've learned over the past 8 months from Skowron for spritan and Kurfurst and Unid for codan and such to try it again.
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>>126923801
>not making memearch ascend to its final form
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>>126925378
Go fucking poison something else into a puddle of garbage you pile of human diarrhea
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>>126925085
it's an RP game on BYOND similar to ss13 all while being different at the same time.
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>>126900725
Bauds how does this new mutation shit work. What's the mutagen metagame? I learned botany in the pre-botany2 days so this the hydro tray is a container stuff baffles me. How does it determine if it's a 5/10/25 mutagen addition for its mtuation proc. Is that every time it checks and it has over x mutagen in the tray or is it on addition? Back in the day we'd just syringe the plant, scan, repeat until we hit almost 100/10/1
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>>126921839
>OI LUK ERE BRUV
You don't run the show anymore. I'll sling whatever strain of shit I want at you.
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>>126925373
You'd best be usin the colors from the real sprites, that's the Niggly method!
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>be assistant
>radstorm literally THE SAME SECOND THE ROUND STARTS
>have to leave in 30 minutes anyway, so decide to roll around in the hallways
>get a bunch of powers including cryokinesis and polymorph
>mess around with yahir and hurdy who are loafing in front of the botanist
>decide to do something cool
>turn myself into the priest and accuse him of stealing my ID
>that gets old after a while
>turn myself into the IAA in front of a sec officer
>sec starts chasing me
>apprehended and dragged to brig
>yelled FORTI Y GAMA
>use cryo blast
>run away from the IAA
>get lasered to death
it was pretty fun. I had to leave anyway, but I had other plans for the round if I had decided to stay.
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Why does Taxi suck so much?
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>>126905001
Oven that can be found in xenoarch, that has a chance to change everyones name/race/gender/job when, because you know time manipulation and shit
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>>126926524
Managed to find a pull of all the sprites from Super Metroid, so using those as reference and palette.

Hoping on getting Morph Ball working somehow rather than it just being a resprited hardsuit, it'd allow for you to pipe crawl as well as drop something akin to those sticky bombs from one of Deity's grenade launchers
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Wow one of the old hosts got a bannu
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>>126924458
And if you're talking about the role of HoS, there's another complication in that playing Security on /vg/station is a pain in the ass due to it being consistently understaffed- more than once you will literally be the only member of your department, unable to delegate anything and forced to do all of Security's jobs at once unless you either get a borg to go Sec, have a late-joining player come in as a Security role, or somehow have the HoP convince somebody to join Security.

Even then, it's a small miracle if you end up with more than three people in total in Security during most rounds. It's not surprising that the few people who do join as HoS are either extremely good at what they do or are hopelessly incompetent.
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>>126926714
There's a DNA scrambler, but it doesn't change race, sadly.
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>>126926840
FUCK CELT
U
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K

C
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L
T
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>>126926849
I want to play Security, but the thought of being a lone officer against a rogue AI stops me
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>>126926883
See it changes everyones races and shit, because you did something that changed the past
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>>126926737
You could just copy the ventcrawl stuff from the contortionist jumpsuit, and not worry about trying to do other stuff with the morph ball.

Also Gravity Suit variant giving you the Jump power when?
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>>126905001
>Russians are more weeb than us
who woulda thunk that...
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>dreamseeker.exe has stopped working

Keeps happening when trying to join, I know someone else had this issue ~12 hours ago. What was the fix? I've cleared the BYOND cache.

Windows 10.
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>join round 2 hours after round start
>join in as security officer
>i'm the only one
>God's tell me "Paul, you are the hero we need"
>while getting my weapons in the lockers, the God's say "Go to that small room past medbay"
>lose connection
>take a lot of time to connect again
>after reconnecting, I go to the auxiliary tool storage, the only small room after medbay
>ask the Gods what I have to do
>no answer
>going back to sec lobby
>lose connection in middle hallway again

I really have to get a better internet connection
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>>126927000
Not quite that easy to just "copy the code", as ventcrawl has two checks, if the mob has the ventcrawl verb (Or in the case of contortionist, if they shift click on the vent I think) and there's a listed variable of objects that allow for ventcrawling that's somewhere in the ladder.

Gonna get it sprited first, then focus on the code.
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>>126926883
That's a random artifact, and it's much more likely to turn you into a radioactive, epileptic, blind deaf-mute.
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>>126926895
Nah fuck you.
If you had your way we'd be another shit ass pub running TG's shit ass code with your faggoty little friendsies in charge.
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>>126922045
>captain uploads retarded /pol/ law
>expects resistance
>people come at him with guns
>OH FUCK U WHY U RESIST
>BTFO
>get welderlockered
>non-antag bombs other non-antag
>banned
>whines about it on thread
wow never play head again
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>>126927165
>implying it wasn't BYOND's fault
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>>126927193
Wait, it's not a check if objects allow for ventcrawling, it's a check to see if the mobs contents can be allowed through ventcrawling, hence Monkeys and Diona have to have nothing equipped to be able to ventcrawl, and there's facehugger in that list so xenos can ventcrawl with a couple in their pocket.

This is gonna be a bit trickier than I first thought
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>>126927286
Idiot
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>>126926849
I just ignore antags sneaking around, shit on greytiders being cunts, and lethal people who try to kill me. If shits getting too murdery I go get guns from cargo or armory and let the validhunters go handle shit. It actually gets kind of Zen. You just chill, permabrig crybabies, and let faggots valid faggots.
Drag beepsky and most people are too much of pussy ass faggots to attack you. You can also just arm up a validhunter to be your buddy cop that neither of you leave the LoS of each other.

>>126926925
holster an ion rifle or get into a locker/disposal with a flash, most borgs and AI's are hamfisted. If they chase you after you change directions while maintining distance, pop em. Then you just go get an atmos suit, eva around, blow the borgs, rnd thermite into the core from the head metting disposal and grenade its apc. If you're too worried about subversion, just grab the boards, change its laws, add a kill people forcing their way into your upload/attempting further law changes and get on with life.If you have to deal with it after that there's not realyl anything you could do and you should jsut hang out in space with a jetpack to shoot him through the shuttle
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>>126927193
>Dig up strange boots
>Gives you hyperzine speed, jump mutation, and has a 0 ms penalty magnetize
FUND IT
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Did you guys know saw bones is an old host
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>>126926849
>somehow have the HoP convince somebody to join Security
good luck, most of them will be traitors looking to get guns
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>>126927729
Sawbones is actually just one of Pomf's many alts, he uses that account for social experiments.
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>>126927681
>Dig up strange gloves
>When charges, shoots a spray of harmless light
>Another gives TK but drains blood with every use
>Hat that cancels the effect of gravity on you
>strange lighter that spawns rand(1,x) rand(friendly/hostile/neutral) (mob) when charged. Cahrges off of x
>Pen that makes werid fonts, sizes, and floors and may replace words
>Pen that can only write WGW
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>>126927729
He's not Apeh so he's got that going for him I guess
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>>126926840
Apeh was a shit host and he was a shitty player. He had it coming.
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>>126927892
>Cursed earpiece
>Has access to all channels, including normally secret ones
>automatically changes everything you say into WGW
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>>126928284
nah he was the best of hosts for banter but he was shit at banning people, that was /vg/s peak before he left to join goon
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>>126927892
>Talkie Toaster
>Follows you around forever and asks you if you want baked goods toasted
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>>126926925
When it comes to rogue AIs, you'll actually want to rely more on the RD since he's the only one who can blow the borgs. And malf is a fairly rare mode; you're more likely to deal with traitors, changelings, and the inevitable bored assistant/clown.

If you're uneasy about going it alone, wait for a bit and see if anyone else joins ahead of you; in mid- to high- pop there's usually a detective or warden if nothing else.

I'm no expert at Security myself, but here are some decent tips:

>Carry an active station-bounced radio in your bag at all times; most things that keep you from talking will still let you whisper, and the radio will pick that up as long as you're fairly close to it. To my knowledge, the only exception to this is the stun talisman cultists can use, which just so happens to make them speak when they trigger it- and give away their identity to anyone listening as a result.)
>Tracking and Chemical Implants aren't just for prisoners. Try using a tracking implant as a more reliable way of finding VIPs (e.g. the Captain or other Heads) than suit sensors; the fact that they deactivate 10 minutes after the implantee dies can also help to clue you into impostors if they show up later with the implant gone. (And if the implant suddenly appears in someone you never actually implanted, then that's a dead giveaway they're a Changeling since Implants carry over from one form to another.) Similarly, Chemical Implants can be loaded with medicine as an emergency healing method for your officers if you use them alongside a crew monitoring computer and maxed sensors.
>The Security Hardsuit is actually rather ineffective when it comes to protecting you from damage; look it up in the code if you don't believe me. Stick with the standard armor you spawn in unless the situation requires you to use a hardsuit.
(To be continued)
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Is the person who wanted scarves added/fixed around?

How's this for first draft?

Feel like the scarf up around the face feels too much like the bandana, but not too sure on how to fix it.
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>>126928645
How do you use a chemical implant?

I've messed around with them before, but never figured out how to inject them or use them.
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So the admins have banned Box now?
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>>126928630
WHEN
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>>126928597

>/vg/ peak
>not Norodo/Velyks
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>>126928898
norodo wasnt too bad, velyks was when shit declined
you know it be true
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Nobody can help me with this?
>>126927135
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>>126928771
I ASK AGAIN

WHEN
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>>126927135
>Windows 10

Found your problem
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>>126928750
Use a suring on the case with the implant in it to fill it up to 50 units. Use the implanter on the case, then use the implanter on the person. You can activate the implant by using the prisoner management console in the wardens and by permabrig

>>126929287
Jew gates has betrayed you
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>>126928954

Yeah it's true but I started playing during Norodo's last days and learned the game during Velyks so I was too busy being captivated by the awe of the game to give a shit about drama or what was going on

I miss it but I'd probably hate it if I travelled back in time to it now.
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Two years ago on my second shift ever playing, I got bounced to TGstation (did we have the bunker back then? I guess we must have) and tried to learn how to hack

I got arrested halfway through the hack by a sec officer and they threw me in perma with no headset for an hour long shift and repeatedly came in to harm baton me because I was asking for a lawyer (by the way there was a really nice lawyer there who tried to help but of course lawyers can't do dick)

I'm still mad about it 2 years later. If only I knew how to ahelp.
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>>126929350
>>126929353
It's been working for over a month
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>>126929356
SAME MAN I BET WE ARE OLD BUDS UNDER SOME RANDOM INGAME NAME
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>>126927892
Would a Behelit/Egg of the Emperor be too weeb/OP?
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>>126928771
>when it gets within 5 tiles of someone it starts furiously toasting its toast for 8 seconds
>If the mob is still in its field of view it fires a scattershot of 13 lascannon beams in a 135 degree cone in front of it

>>126929414
Duh. If shit breaks right away it's "microsoft's fault" Later means it's on you.
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>>126929426

I'd be your bud regardless, anon.
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>>126927135
Ask in the irc they know these things

I have heard of this happening before but I forgot how they fixed it
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>>126929510
I've had no hardware or software changes, and somebody had the exact same issue as me about 12 hours ago in the thread but they fixed it somehow
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>>126929546
Whats your ic name fag
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>>126929482
Too weeb and too OP. Keep your goddamn memeshit out
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>>126928645
(Continued)
>>Even if RnD hasn't been able to make AEGs, they can still make stun revolvers that are a flat upgrade to your taser. It doesn't fit in the security belt, but it can fire three more shots than the taser before it needs to recharge.
>On that note, do yourself a favor and at least try to discourage RnD from producing guns not meant for your use unless the situation makes it necessary for them to do so (e.g. wizards, Blob, etc.) or if they have permission to do so from the Captain or HoS. The last thing you want is every other person on the station packing AEGs. Armor is a bit more of a grey area; the Squaddie and Original armor are relatively harmless since they're little more than heavily nerfed bulletproof vests and riot suits respectively, but Ablative Armor is definitely a big no-no- not only is it a common traitor objective, it gives the wearer near-total protection from your standard weaponry.
>I've heard the Secure GPS you can find in the Brig lockers gives an alert if you're ever stripped, but I've yet to experience this for myself. Still better to take it anyway as an extra safeguard, though.
>Donuts heal you when you eat them, and you can put them in the security belt. Frosted donuts are particularly effective as a way of healing minor injuries, but don't substitute them for actual medicine.
>pAIs and Cortical Borers are a godsend for you. The former can provide donuts and Tricord to patch up minor injuries, and you can trust them to scream for help if you fine yourself unable to do so. The latter is a veritable pharmaceutical factory that can keep you alive in nearly any situation, and getting farsight from it never hurts.
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>>126929609

I don't really play anymore. I occasionally join and play MoMMI every once in a while but thats about it.
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>>126929610
>Berserk is too weeb for spess
But we have the Black Swordsman and Schierke hairstyes.
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>>126927135
They turned off Active X filtering in IE, though I'm not sure if that'll apply with Windows 10 since it uses Edge by default.

If it's worth a shot, go to Control Panel > Internet Options > Advanced tab, and it should be a checkbox in there somewhere.
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>>126929652
Dude what no. the best thing you can hope for as security is for cargo, sci, and mechanics to be handing out guns like hotcakes. Some antag is gonna murderbone inevitably and that's that many more guns on the ground. An antag can kill a guy. He can kill 10 guys. But 25 is a tall order when every single one of them can pump him full of lead. Especially when you have little to no sec and none of them can handle sticking together so they don't get penned/stung/screech/mm'd to oblivion

>>126929850
>There's some turds in the pool
>This means shitting another turd inbto it is okay
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>>126929353
One thing you should know about the chem implant, though- it make the implantee get hungry faster, and if their hunger reaches the orange level the implant has a 50/50 chance of either failing to respond to your prisoner management console or injecting all of its contents into the implantee at once.

So if you use Chemical Implants, remind the implantee to eat regularly if they don't want to risk having 50 units of chloral being dumped into their system.
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>>126929841
Then what was your ic name
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why is taxi shit why is taxi shit #italiano
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>>126929947
>Using chloral.
Everyone expects that and dopes. Plus if I'm chemplanting, I would have just perma'd them but I'm trying to be nice. Literally nothing of value lost.
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>>126929987

Thane Avatar
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>>126930059
ayy lmao I played with you
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>>126929652
The Secure GPS only works if you're also wearing one, but it does work. Basically it'll say "[Person's Name]'s GPS was just stripped off their body!" and I think it'll give you the area too, but don't quote me on it.
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>>126927892
>no legendary swords like Hrunting, Excalibur, Skofnung, Tyrfing, and Durendal
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>>126929887
Thanks, I tried it and it didn't work though. I'll keep messing with it.
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>>126930113

What was yours?
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>>126930353
I used to rock Nelson Mason way back when
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>>126929652
>>126930259
It does give an area and also works if they die. It also works if you leave it out on a table like I do sometimes a warden

I remember one shift quite clearly...

>Captain: We need backup from the revs right now. We're holed up in surgery.
>Your SPS beeps: Warning! Captain died at Surgery!
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>>126930606
Do you need to have it in your pocket, or does it work if its in your bag? I've never seen it trigger, and I think that may have something to do with it.
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>>126929321
Nice, I like it.

Code it.
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>>126928656
No comments or complaints?

Alright, final design it is.
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>>126930291
It does work. You have to search for IE in the start bar; it's still there, just hidden.
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>>126931068
Oh I was too busy scrolling past all that... whatever that was in the thread. Should the tails of the scarf or whatever still go down the front when it's up around your face? Isn't that how it's usually done? I could be talking out of my ass.
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Can we at least have taxi removed from the rotation. It is a meme station.
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>>126931264
Good point.

Just checked it myself with a scarf close to hand, and if you've got it round your face you usually have one tail one side of your body, another tail the other side, usually over the same shoulder.

Thanks for the spot.
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>>126928656
>>126931068
>>126931264
could you by chance make a scarf like joseph's? i would myself if i wasnt so SHIT at spriting
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>>126929935
I disagree. Keep in mind the two guns a traitor has access to via their uplink are a glorified taser that takes a shitload of time to charge in between shots and a slowly loading revolver that only has 7 shots. If they kill someone who has (for example) an AEG, they become a much bigger threat than they would be had you not allowed half the crew to be armed to the teeth. Plus, do you really trust Greyshit McDindu not to pull a gun on the officer who tries to arrest him for whateve stupid shit he's doing?

Plus, mechanics can't even make guns without having a modified device analyzer- which is a traitor item. So if I see one printing Spurs or something, you bet I'll try to stop him.

The last thing Security needs is for everyone to be armed when they can't be trusted to use the guns strictly for self-defense, and when the round is extended someone is guaranteed to be murdered as a result of a trigger-happy validhunter jumping to the wrong conclusions.
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>>126931747
Yeah sure, red and green are festive enough
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>>126930606
I always take a SPS because I've been told it's useful, but I've never seen it do anything on its own.
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>>126929652
>people who are against the second amendment
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARM, FUCK OFF SHITCURITY
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>>126930269
Fucking no.References: the game doesn't need even more shit.
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>tfw you want the admins to somehow spawn a Lawgiver to you
>You know very well that shitters have requested a lawgiver in the past
>You know very well you probably won't get one

>But you just saw some Judge Dredd strips and you like playing security
Why must it be so
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>>126932470
im waiting for the greytiders to rise up american revolution style and ratify a bill of rights
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>>126931914
Ebow's strength is that it doesn' have x shot y messages and the revolver is also for blindsiding to crit in two shots, not station wide brawls where you spaghetti 6 guns and miss everything.

>>126933017
We had a round where it happened, was kind of shit though. It was just validhunters tearing each other up like a paper shredd\er
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>>126932995
They can always say no. Just try
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Where is doomguy?
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Buster Frown had a hard life.
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>>126932995
I've only ever given out the judge uniform once, and it was to fit with the round rather than when asked for

>Medpop wizard round
>Wizard summons guns thrice, station is chaos
>And only one security officer
>"Are you ready to uphold the law?"
>He says yes
>Start playing Breaking the law after he gives the speech
>He gets about 4 people into custody while the song's going
>He gets robusted by a chef in yellaglubs and riot armour riding the janicart armed with a .75 gyrojet
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>>126933246
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>>126933312
Oh, forgot to say

>Chef and clown bring the lawgiver to the wizard, who's claimed captainship of this crazy train
>He tries it on the clown
>Gun actually has DNA tracking, so it explodes albeit weakly, but enough for the wizard to bleed out

It needs some work
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>>126933483
Nice
.wad when?
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>>126929652
>discourage RnD from producing guns
Don't actually do this. An armed crew will save your ass invariably, and you're more likely to get free gear if you're not busting their chops about insignificant shit.

If you're a pussy and think those big mean trateymans will have an advantage, remember that they can also buy easily concealable stun weapons and a revolver that'll crit you in two shots from the getgo if that's their intention.
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>>126932995
Fucking Lawgiver is OP, a HoS with one got enslaved by a vampire, and just one hit killed everyone who got in his way after
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>>126933483
FUCKING SICK CUNT YOU ARE NOIIIIICE WORK KEEP IT UP MATE
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>>126933483
Das some sweet go-fasting right there, I'd do that!
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drawfag here, i need someone to draw

gimme your static and a pic, you fucking waifufag
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>>126933107
But murderboning was mentioned, which implies that any sort of subtlety has long since vanished.
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>>126933483
Damn man and I thought you were just making a spess themed .wad
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>>126933874
Cora Stone

:^)
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Just draw a miner in a hardsuit, or a miner fighting a goliath
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>>126933874
Draw a traitor holding a pda pinpointer, with a dead miner in front and some red eyes behind
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How do I into Xenoarchaelogy?

I just don't get the wiki
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>>126933874
YOU WANT SOMETHING TO DRAW?

PICTURE THIS

>Chef backroom on box, dark lit with a trail of gibs coming from the gibber
>There's cockroaches perusing the gibs
>The door opens from the kitchen
>In walks the chef, illuminated by the light behind him, with the bomb suit, a flamethrower, and a chef hat on top of the bomb suit helmet
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>>126933594
>what is a bulletproof vest/shooting the other guy first
>what is looking for the (still visible) bolt from the ebow and exploiting the fact that said stun weapon takes ages to recharge in between shots
>thinking that "armed crew" will even give a fuck about security when they're too busy looking for an excuse to shoot each other and in fact may even try to shoot YOU if you attempt to do your fucking job

Those are just the most obvious flaws in your argument, and if the round is extended the number of reasons against arming the crew massively rises. Granted, in the case of well-established xeno infestation or a blob it's fine, but in any other situation the guy asking for a gun had better have a damned good reason to possess it, and "I want my valids" is not a good reason.

I'm not against arming the crew, but there is no reason why they should be better-armed than the department whose sole purpose is to protect the station and its crew. I'd say it's one of the reasons that nobody plays Security on /vg/station, if not the biggest reason.
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>>126933874
Draw one of those zamboni janiborgs with this slapped on the side
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>>126933874
Yahir and nevill.
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>>126933874
Draw the rapefics in action.
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>>126902224
That's what you get for being a dork.
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>>126933572
When it's playable. I could probably cut out the unfinished features and release a condensed Thunderdome demo, but at the moment it wouldn't really be anything but a reskinned Doom TDM arena, and that's not very SS13. Proper health isn't finished and the death/ghost/clone system isn't implemented at all yet.

>>126933730
>>126933739
Heavily WIP, but I'm glad you like it.

>>126934006
The plan was always to port over as much of SS13's codebase as possible. I'm taking things at a reasonable pace to avoid feature creep, though, and focusing on the basic player systems/common objects. More advanced shit can come later.
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>>126933874
Draw Boris Raskolnikov please
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>>126934238
fun, coming because first
>>126934035
> nopic
>>126934376
>>126934591
>>126934949
on it
>>126934682
>>126934797
already did
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>>126934495
Nobody plays security on /vg/ because they're too attached to their characters.
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OH MY GOD JC A BOMB
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>>126935138
Postem
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>>126933483
Github WHEN? I want to fucking contribute, damn it.
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>>126925373
does this mean metroids are coming back
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guys I did the active X thing to fix the client but now my nano UI is broken and won't, display anything

anyone has an idea as to what could have caused that?
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>>126935395
Probably when I hit v0.1 or something close to that. Right now it's more of a glorified tech demo than an actual port/remake - the goal is to replicate the basics of SS13 gameplay in a general manner that allows for easy, modular addons (think codebase-specific gamemodes or features). I'd be very willing to write up or host some Doom editing classes for anyone who's curious as to how the engine works, but only if it doesn't detract from actual BYOND contributions. Not that it's fully required, though, the engine is extremely well documented outside of some niche multiplayer-only features.
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>>126935701
ETA?
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>>126925373
>it doesn't even cover the whole body

Laziness. Come back when it has a full body and a functioning arm cannon.
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>>126936065
Oh gee, it's almost like it isn't done yet.
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>>126936120
Good point. Still, I expect that arm cannon to work when it gets made, maybe someone could snatch Bay's hardsuit code to make it work.
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>>126933312
Jesus fuck every time. A judge wouldn't be breakin the law like that
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>>126934325
OKAY.
HAND PICK EVERYTHING THAT PINGS THAT ISN'T TRACE ORGANICS.
THERE IS NO MAGIC TO IT.
YOU EITHER GET LUCKY OR GET SOMETHING USELESS OR NOTHING AT ALL.
THAT IS ALL I DO.
THAT IS ALL I DO.
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>>126936046
I don't have a strict deadline at the moment, which essentially means that I'm just slowly working on puzzling things into place. There's also the matter of people expecting both a little and a lot from an initial release, so it'd be counterproductive if I released something with a non-functional HUD, empty maps with nothing to do, et cetera.

If you're dead-set on contributing, though, hit me up on the server or something, I'm easy to find. People who know what they're doing are always welcome, I just don't want a situation where everyone decides it's time to implement <feature that requires low-level engine changes>, make no progress, and quit altogether.

Hope that's reasonable, man. I really appreciate the interest, don't get me wrong.
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>>126933483
>Forget to look up
>It's a 3-z high room
>Poor little white guy.png
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Holy shit, is Railfist Rail Kinson?
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>>126936703
At the moment, hallways and rooms are double-height, maintenance tunnels and specific areas are single-height. Doing the entire station in single-height gets cramped very quick, and it also causes a couple of problems with projectile collision because the projectile hitboxes haven't been tweaked yet.
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>>126933690
>HoS with one got enslaved by a vampire
What a joke antag

>Kilkun took the blood cost off half the skills
>Glare goes through sunglasses
>Enslave people with loyalty implants
>Drain a single person of blood and you have enough to DEATH TOUCH four people
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>>126934495
People trying to kill you are often going to try and kill you. I do0n't liek tryhard sec like you but fuck if Im gonna not help you cause when you're gone there's that many less who can help me
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>>126914161
No. That's validhunting. Play dead and then die or fuck off back to TG.
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>>126936441
Good way to waste a war digsite.You break most of your strange rocks not using the suspension field thing
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>>126936782
Nope, I'm a medbay regular as well though. Hint, there's a reason I haven't been playing for a while.
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>>126937521
my nigga steve
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Dreamseeker.exe not working on Windows 10 guy here, I found a fix that might be worth putting in the OP copypasta

This automatic update for Windows 10 breaks Dreamseeker. Uninstalling it successfully fixed my problem.
>"Security Update for Internet Explorer Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3132372)"
http://www.byond.com/forum/?post=2007764&page=3
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>>126933874
Draw the janiborg maid.
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daily reminder that N3X15 is a cancerous shitcoder that needs his shit kicked in before it becomes any worse

https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/commit/111345241f2f003674e4ea75359c3ee24fcaa005
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>>126939695
is he the goofball of /vg/?
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>>126939801
no he's the Cheridan of /vg/
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has anyone ever considered that the reason why people always vote for box is because people want to play on box?
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>>126940196
that doesn't make sense
why would someone vote for something they want
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>>126937685
Open internet explorer > click the cog > safety or whatever > enable ActiveX filtering

There you go.
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[Another 3 hours of tantrums about it not being box begins]
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>>126939971
>>126939801
>>126939695
He just wants to kill mapbugs
mapvote may return, probably once you all are used to all the other maps
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>TG stole plasmamen
Is there anything lower than a TGst*tion player?
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>>126939695
Holy shit, report map issues, shut up or fuck off. Everyone always cries abloo bloo bloo x is a bad map and then they don't make reports or report desired improvements. IT's the same reason main is on bleeding edge instead of master. People bitch instead of reporting so now everybody gets to Deal.
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m-muh box! WAAAH
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>>126940596
/tg/ has a much more updated codebase, /vg/ still runs ancient code that even /tg/ *used* to have.
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>>126940703
>report desired improvements
make the other stations into box station?
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>>126940596
Everyone steals good things from everyone. We stole our process scheduler from goon and killed a fuckton of lag.
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>>126940791
>>126940279
Stop being a passive-aggressive cunt. Report concrete problems like I have no fucking autolathe in rnd or kill yourself. If that's Kolith holy shit fuck off or shut up.
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>>126940850
>Stole form Goon
Its closed source
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>>126940993
And the people who contribute to it aren't. we got it from the guy who made it iirc. But what the fuck do I know, I was just there when the hype happened, it got put in, bugfixed and lag plummeted. Fucking shitpsoters I swear.
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>>126940993
Stupid nigger 90% of all of /vg/s code is originally goons when they released their source ages ago, now everyone just tries to copy shit off them since their source is now off the market
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>>126940976
the other stations not being box station is a very concrete problem that adversely impacts everyone who plays.
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>>126940553
>He just wants to kill mapbugs
no he doesn't

if he gave a single fuck about bugs he'd pick one of the 800 issues open and do something requiring actual effort rather than brainless shitcode
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>>126940993
Goon released an early version of their code a long, long time ago, and nearly all modern coderbases built from there up
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>>126941392
Really fucking helpful there fuckface. Enjoy mapfix january n a different server then.
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>>126940596
Paradise stole them first
http://nanotrasen.se/wiki/index.php/Plasmamen
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okay, let's just start by looking at one of them. The entire premise of taxi station is bullshit and is unfixable without making it not-taxi station, therefore it should be box station instead.
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>>126941889
One of the main problems with Taxi is getting to the other stations.

Those transport tubes from the research station on Box being an alternate link to each station, or air bridges, how's that?

MoMMIs usually build air bridges to the other stations anyway.
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>be on taxi
>attempt to board a shuttle
>the shuttle disappears when I am 2-3 tiles into it
>space
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>126942202
That's why they added the guard rails, just turn around and you'll be fine, just a little brute and suffocation that'll heal in about 10 sec
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>>126942279
Guard rails are care bearing. Remove when?
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>>126941889
Taxis premise is great for antags.

What it needs is some jetpacks about or a way to get to the other stations should the taxis fail. Maybe one of those big tube things as seen in box station research station.

Taxi however is the best low pop map by a mile and the best traitor map too.

If anything else I'd say the map needs some more maint tunnels - the corridors of vital areas are crowded
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>>126942362
The tubes are miserably bad and also not space proof. Any pressurized walkway will defeat the purpose of the gimmick and be broken every single round by impatient faggots.
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What Taxi needs the most urgently is REMOVING THE FUCKING SEC CHECKPOINT BECAUSE HOLY FUCKING SHIT, SEC CAN'T BE TRUSTED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO STAFF THAT FUCKING KLUDGE AND THEY DEFINITELY CAN'T BE TRUSTED TO NOT LEAVE IT BOLTED DOWN WITH NOBODY THERE. IT MAKES EVERY SHIFT AS MINER ABSOLUTE, UNENDING HORROR UNTIL I GET A JETPACK LITERALLY JUST TO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT ASS MAZE.
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>>126942532
>impatient faggots
Look in the mirror anon
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>>126942603
You can just mail the minerals dummy
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>>126942643
Yeah and slap a stamp on it and rely on the faith and goodwill of scientists to mail back my drill, because I can trust on both them noticing the mail, them giving a shit, and even so much as them existing, since the only reason why I would ever need to leave my department is giving materials to Science, great idea anon, I think I'll just fucking mail myself
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>>126942603
You don't even need a jetpack, just walk to the disposals mass drivers and either ride those to just line up and jump.
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What if we changed taxi to be a terrestrial map, and have 3 alternative versions of it

>Snow map, for comfy
>Desert map so we can finally use sand worms
>Lava map for ohshitgetonthetables

That way, the taxis are the safest route to each station, but not the only route
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>>126942809
>Murderbone
>Wrap and mail corpses to medbay
>tfw they're still in medbay storage at round end

>>126942947
Space worms are turbo borked code
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>be assistant
>accidentally walk into incinerator room
why do I have access here
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Don't worry friendos, i can always just do round-end custom votes and force whatever wins.
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>>126943146
>not getting all access
You are the worst assistant.
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>>126943037
If we get a desert map option, I'd be all for hammering at it to try and sort it out through frankencode

Rather than ramming into something = delete it from existence, it just deals a certain amount of damage (let's say 10 to 30 because it's a giant worm charging at you), the lower the health of the target, the more likely you consume them (Get put into contents list, look at mimics/xenos) where they take a certain amount of brute unless the creature dies or they break out thanks to holding a sharp object

Also REMOVE SPACE WORM SLIPPING, THIS KILLS THE WORMBUS
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>>126943310
someone else took it
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>>126943354
>You can just mail the minerals dummy
Give all its segments active magboiots
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>>126943487
If only it worked like that
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from now on I won't report a single issue with a map that isn't box

welcome to 4chan bald shitter
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>>126943146
To assist
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>>126943573
enjoy your map rotation then
welcome to vgstation :)
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>>126943573
>>Welcome to 4chan bald shitter
>Using the website we use as a forum as justification for you being a shit

I'm not sure whether to cringe, stare in disbelief, or worry that there's this much of a tryhard in our midst
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>>126935185
shit, sorry, i had to repair some cables here and took me a while, this is what i had before i ran off

going with the next ones because fuck it, lost the mojo for that one
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>>126943573
>Other maps are shit!
>But I wont help you fix it so I don't have such a miserable time
>Haha that'll show you!
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>>126943573
>Literally help closed the pool in habbo and griffed furshit in second life
>"Welcome to 4chan"
>Welcome
We are infested with underage.

>>126943851
God that feeling when you slip with a force 15+ weapon and they're right there. It's ogre.
>>
>Dat cult round won due to pure luck
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>>126944506
>dat icky ocky due to pure dumbass
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>>126943948
In fucking normal non-bizarro world, what we do is remove maps that are systemically broken and let people who actually care enough about the maps mess with them until they are functional enough to actually see play. We don't force people to play them until everyone is rabid to the point of griefing the map just to make it go away.
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>>126944594
>round over
>Icky ocky

Confirmed autism
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>>126944506
CULTISTS DETECTED. ENGAGING DINGDONG BANNU
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>>126944645
round isn't over when nar nar is summoned
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>>126943851
Awesome.
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>>126944613
you are implying that boxbabbies weren't already rabid to the point of griefing the map just to make it go away, EVEN WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY VOTED FOR
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>>126944717
still, p much luck they won due to Captain have autism

"IM GONNA BOARD MYSELF IN MY ROOM :^)"
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>The maps suck because they're broken because we don't play them to fix them because the maps suck because they're broken because we don't play them to fix them because the maps suck because they're broken because we don't play them to fix them because the maps suck because they're broken because we don't play them to fix them

Nice circular logic.
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>>126944613
Well aren't you an entitled little shit. In a normal world people would be reporting issues instead of ineffectually bitching in-thread/ooc so that mappers would have a handy lift of shit to fix when they feel like dealing with merge conflict hell instead of expecting them to spend days pouring over abandoned maps to find stuff to fix. Most mappers aren't exp0ert in every role if you haven't been able to tell from various defficiencies.
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>>126944796
You are the only one here with autism, ick ocking and using reddit meme faces.
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>>126940446
Are you even able to read?
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>>126944864
w/e nerd
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>>126944774
but that's because voting taxi on a populated serb is literally griefing, and your so-called "rabid griefers" are just restoring the server to its default state.
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>>126944774
>that blob that suicided just to end a taxi round
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>>126944909
Yes, this fixed that issue for me on Windows 10.
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>>126944774
you mean voted for because the vote bugged out and there were 2 votes total?

fuck off the map only got legit voted in when it came out and people were ignorant of just how terrible it was
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>>126944940
>voting taxi on a populated serb is literally griefing
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>>126944849
And if nobody cares enough to make the map playable, get rid of it. Don't dump that work on other people who don't want to do it (because they won't)

Your whole argument hinges on the assumption that every map on the rotation right now is absolutely vital to the serb, which is complete bullshit.
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>>126945115
We've had deff/meta/taxi win with 1 vote numerous times cause people are too busy jerking off on each other at the dock and crying in ooc to vote.
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>>126944797
>the map is shit
>lets force players to play a shit map until they either leave or someone else fixes bugs unrelated to the map being shit
BRILLIANT YOU ENLIGHTENED MOTHERFUCKER
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>>126944986
the hero we needed
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>>126944940
>wanting something other than box is now griefing

Oh really, is this how low you're stooping now? Everyone who doesn't love box is now a griefer?

>>126945158
Not even the worst autists want to play on the same fucking map OVER AND OVER AGAIN, EVERY SINGLE TIME WITHOUT FAIL.

If you had your way there wouldn't even be an option to vote because "EVERYONE WANTS BOX, FUCK THE PEOPLE WHO WANT VARIETY".
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>>126945267
you dumb retard the only reason single votes exist is because the vote bugs out and are not shown to anyone and they dont autistically hunt for a tiny ass vote button in the maze of tabs
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I've played maybe one round of this game in the past month and yet I just had a dream about it.
Even worse, it was about Bob
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>>126945328
>Not even the worst autists want to play on the same fucking map OVER AND OVER AGAIN, EVERY SINGLE TIME WITHOUT FAIL.
>what is the majority of the server
maybe you think they're shit, maybe you think they're unoriginal faggots or autists, but it doesn't matter because you're in the minority.
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>>126945492
>When I don't win it's a bug
Mhmmm, Tell me all about it kohai
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>>126945328
yea fuck the people the majority

minority must decide what shit map we play

t. you (idiot)
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Adding job supplementary videos
Heres what there is so far
Round 2

>Captain
youtube.com/watch?v=sen8Tn8CBA4
>HoP

>HoS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJiYrRcfQo
>CE

>RD

>CMO

>Sec officer
youtube.com/watch?v=YmSKCbTFcJE
>Warden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLuUvYJySIM
>Detective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm_t3g4RhpY
>IAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnHtGgVAUE
>Engineer

>Atmos Tech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1BDM1oBRJ8
>Mechanic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ2dI_B_Ycg
>Janitor

>Quartermaster

>Cargo Tech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fWxCnHvblA
>Shaft miner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcUBI-YVRY8
>Medical Doctor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhiBNd19sJs
>Paramedic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa7Bgj0y3eg
>Chemist
youtube.com/watch?v=6aK2CKrdjbE
>Geneticist

>Roboticist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gri2I0SZwgQ
>Scientist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW-NiGp1gys
>Bartender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBRL7D0wcXM
>Chef
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE
>Botonist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw8JoviHm8g
>Assistant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phAKccY6M9I
>Clown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPovfOIy5YQ
>Mime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD00KdvyV58
>Chaplain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46PXaJxzuDE
>Librarian
youtube.com/watch?v=oTm4CO6cASA
>AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maAFcEU6atk
>Cyborg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=895pIjyRUIk
>MoMMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo2TUIEXJig


>Wizard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=havhaDYh0Sc


>Xenomorph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrxlbLVcpqI

>Bomberman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZe5J8SVCYQ
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>>126945091
The issue is also fixed for me, I was outlining how to fix it and you clearly did not read that
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>>126945328
>let's grief the majority by enabling random vote so people are forced to play on broken maps
I don't see how that's more valid than
>let's grief the 2 autists who like taxi by removing the broken maps from the vote until they're fixed by people who are enthusiastic about them
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>>126945716
And i was providing a different, easier way of fixing it.
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How come when I tabled that sword cultist he didn't lay flat on his face like he's supposed to, as God intended?

I really wanted to table chain those guys.
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>>126945864
Fun fact, your fix didn't work for me
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>>126945917
Cain't stun a manifested ghost.
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Sword cult guys who stormed sec, why'd you kill the vox cultist? You were cult, right?
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>HEY SHADE KILL KILL
>ok
>kills me
Nigger if you didnt want to play then why the fuck didnt you just went ghost or some shit
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>>126936441
>wasting alien fossil plants
fug you
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>>126946054
Dang.
I'll remember that next time. Thanks.
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>>126945549
>>126945639
>>126945639
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

Sound familiar?

In any event, Pomf himself said that if you want the vote back, you have to do your part instead of being whiny bitches. The faster you report bugs, the faster we can play Box on a near constant basis like you want and the sooner those maps stop being broken.

If you want to play on a single map exclusively, try Bay or Goonstation.
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>>126940720
what exactly is updated
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Why is Taxi allowed during high pop? It's fucking awful.
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>>126940596
>>126941559
>open source code
>"steal"
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>>126946098
My GUI was fucked up, I didn't see any cult icons, and I was zoomed out the whole time

Sorry if I killed a non-cultie
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>be manifested ghost
>go out through the rune to fight
>Suddenly paralyzed
>can't do shit
>screen gets fucked up like pic related
>won't fix itself until the guy in the ripley drills through me
>admins didn't respond to my ahelp
such is life as a summoned ghost
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>>126946330
>allowed
It's actually mandated by a fucking retard right now.
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Can we at least just remove Taxi from the rotation in general? I don't care about Defficiency or Meta but Taxi is just so fucking bad. I don't think there is a single well thought out department there.
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>>126946192
BUGS ARENT THE REASON THE MAPS ARE SHIT

THE ACTUAL LAYOUT OF EVERY NON BOX MAP IS SHIT AND CANT BE FIXED BY SMALL CHANGES IT NEEDS COMPLETE REWORK BY PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING NTO RETARDS LIKE DUNY DYNLAN OR WHOEVER THE FUCK DESIGNED THE ABORTION THAT IS TAXI
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>>126946380
Well that sucks, because I was trying hard to not die that whole round only to be murdered by a fellow cultist
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God damn that was a great cult round

>be mime
>just walking around doing mime shit
>go to dorms with some guy in front of me, I planned to slip him and fart in his face
>see rune
>I'm on top of it
>he converts me, gives me a tome, gives me the words. What a hero
>I take a banana peel and put it in the dark spot at the end of the hallway
>CE slips
>culted within seconds
>somebody else slips, also culted
>start handing out tomes like they're candy, all with filled words thanks to someone's research
>start handing out stun talismans, emp talismans, create 3 armor runes, create a blood boil rune just in case, and at teleport rune
>soon enough its a hub of cult activity, with people coming and going taking talismans as needed
>still converting some people with stun talismans
>eventually go to sec station, stun and murder a sec officer and shard him and take some of his items
>he has no idea what is happening and is screaming for help, so I have to hide in a locker and ahelp and also wait for another cultist to tell him to shut up
>finally get him to calm down, make him into a construct, he starts shitting out cult walls and constructs and shards
>some idiot uses an EMP and fucks another guy's mechanical heart up, so we murder him and juggernaut him
>start summoning cultists and arming them with cult gear and talismans, tell them to plan
>board the taxi to sec station
>all fucking hell breaks loose as we arrive to a ruined port with ZAS blasting everyone around
>still manage to murder a sec officer, run from the captain, get a revolver, stun him, and murder him, and get to the brig
>try summoning cultists in the brig and get a good amount, almost ready to summon nar'sie
>head to the armory to get gear to protect ourselves just in case
>get fucking null spaced and have to ahelp to get out
>get teleported back
>NAR'SIE HAS RISEN

God damn what a round.
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in all honesty though we absolutely need server population to be taken into account for maps
taxi fails cataclysmically to hold more than 30ish people
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>>126946382
That shit happened to me AS I WAS FIGHTING THE CAPTAIN.

Thankfully he was stunned and I just had to beat his face in, but it could have been much worse.
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>>126946192
>tyranny of the majority
>as opposed to just a tyranny
Alright, listen, you're retarded, but let's have a compromise

I don't think taxi is fixable, but I'd be more than happy to bugtestgrief the other maps in rotation right now, so can we just get taxi removed at least for now?
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>>126946456
THEN MAKE YOUR OWN MAP, BECAUSE WHEN YOU ACT LIKE THAT YOU SOUND LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT OTHER THAN BOX 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO.

Or at least describe exactly what it is you want reworked and how, as opposed to screaming incoherently and making circular arguments that sum up to "it's shit because it's not Box".

And let's all remember that Box is hardly the best map of all either.
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>>126946548
>those buttmad cultists that were upset they got deconverted
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meta is literally the best map
i cannot be proven wrong
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>>126946794
Ask Pomf/N3XI5, I'm just a random anon who thinks all the bitching is retarded.
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>>126945289
Yep, the people who refuse to help and whine ineffectually in the thread will leave, and we can fix the broken maps and add more variety.

Win/win.
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>>126931747
Because of the shade of green I'm using, it looks more like a wreath than the scarf in your picture, but howzat?
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>>126934376
i'm too lazy to use the scanner
i'll upload em later not
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>>126945710
We have a different video for Medical Doctor, but the one you posted could work for CMO.
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>>126947324
oh shit we do, and its a good one.
thanks
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>>126934591
what's the zamboni one?
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>>126945710
Warden one doesn't seem like the best fit, if you ask me.
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>>126946938
The plan was to go to security, drop a blood boil rune, and kill everyone, mostly because they were standing in that glass office near the front, so they would have all been hit by it.

That plan fell apart the moment we arrived at the sec station and ZAS was going fucking apeshit knocking everyone around.
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>>126947540
I'd be careful with blood boil if I were you. That can backfire from what I here. And backfire hard.
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>>126947467
If you have a better one please supply. Im putting it up here for changes and additions
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>>126947618
10% chance to blow up all runes in view. That said, the boil always happens if you have at least three people around the rune; the detonation happens after that.
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>>126947152
you don't even play the game, why do you get a say in anything? fuck off and start playing then you can get a vote
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>build hydroponics tray in robotics with bluespace beakers
>100/10 nutrition level
>never got any weeds

kek
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>>126947742
kill yourself retard
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>>126945710
>>126947324
>>126947451
Best option for Medical Doctor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KFTxoIKyYM
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>>126947742
No.
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>>126947451
I'll hurry up and add the others to the wiki.

>>126947645
None yet, but I'll be on the lookout for one.
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>>126947901
id love more from scrubs but all the shit on youtube is in terrible quality
>>126947947
ayy I was hoping to let these stew a while here before they were added but I guess they can go up now
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>>126947152
>add more variety
>for all of the people who aren't going to be playing anymore
win/win indeed
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>>126947943
Why force people to do something they don't care about? It's obvious the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't want meta/deff/taxi otherwise they'd get played more. Why try to revive a long-dead corpse?
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>>126948361
can we just remove box? I want to see how hard you faggots cry then
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>>126948179
If better ones are posted I can always replace them.
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>>126934591
i really hope you meant one of these
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>>126948407
Because nobody wants to do it willingly.

If you want new non-box maps but don't like what we've got, hurry up and make your own. Or bring back Donutstation, I've heard the coders express interest in that.
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>>126948528
scool, not a big deal
Did not think anyone would just up and pick up doing it
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>>126948679
Nobody wants to do it willingly because apparently nobody cares. Who says people want non-box maps? They seem more than content to play on box.
>>
I need help Dreamseeker just crashes on me has soon I try to load any server.
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>>126948862
oh my god shut up
>>
how can I tell if I'm being waifu'd?
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>>126948490
we'll just make another server lol
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>>126949003
Oh aren't you precious~
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>>126948972
is your character a woman?
is your character a vox?
is your character a nigger?
is your character eli wood, sue bowchief or nevill?

if no, then you arent being waifu'd
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>>126948972
Do you just happen to run into the same person over multiple rounds no matter what's going on? That person might be waifuing you.
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>>126949003
B O X O N L Y
SERVER WHEN
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>>126948862
Have you ever asked them?

Have you even thought about how many times box wins by all of one vote?
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>>126948967
Do you have an actual argument as to why people should waste their time doing something they don't want to do? If the overwhelming majority of the server wants to play Box and a handful of dissenters want to play something else, why should the server cater to them? And why would the coders waste their time trying to improve something that evidently nobody cares enough about to actually test it?
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>>126948967
nobody wants these dumb other maps
box is fine
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>>126949168
I'm always in the same workplace with that character so it can be just coincidence.
What I'm talking is that people keep bringing up lewd situation or jokes when talking to me.
>>126949161
Two out of four.
But I thought that most of these traits would drive people away?
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>>126949374
>actual argument

Here's one:
You're a fucking nobody yelling at the admins and coders. You're insignificant. Nobody cares about you, and everyone would rather you fuck off and find a new server than continue to bitch.
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>>126945710
>One of your videos got picked
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>>126949546
go back to your cave you primitive ape

arguments and reason care not for who is making them
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>>126949546
But anon, i'm an admin.

And might i add that coders and admins should ALWAYS work in favour of the players and not their own goals. We're here to make the server fun for the players as a whole and not for any individual person, least of all yourself.

If you're coding or adminning for SS13 because you've got some weird complex where you have to feel important/wanted/powerful then please, get the fuck out.
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>>126949798
Oh okay, then put the map vote back
>>
>>126949546
>>126949798
And might i add that i don't particularly care about any of the maps outside of Taxi because Taxi has terrible departments, but the players don't seem to want randomized maps (as reflected by in-game votes).

>>126949904
I'm not a coder, it's not up to me. N3X15 seemingly merged it himself which smells of bad form considering every other coder has to get their PRs inspected and approved and tagged and discussed, but hey.
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>>126950032
>N3X15 seemingly merged it himself which smells of bad form considering every other coder has to get their PRs inspected and approved and tagged and discussed, but hey.
freedums arent free, the other coders should be fighting tooth and nail to become head coder and earn those privileges
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>>126949210
>>126949003
Now
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>>126950032
>players don't want random maps
>random maps persist
>we care about the players

hm
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>>126950170
>the other coders should be fighting tooth and nail to become head coder
Iron Coder codeoff when?
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>>126949798
>>126950032

If you really are him, actually talk to N3XIS (and Pomf, who's voiced his full support in favor of it). Me, I suggest the other maps be retired completely in favor of new ones made to take their place. Ones which would be made specifically for the players and whose creation would have them involved in every single step.

>>126950170
What other coders- Dylan and Duny? I'm not trusting them as head coders.
>>
You all realise that's not Senaat, and that Senaat isn't even an admin anymore, right?

R-Right?
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>>126950509
Log onto the server and check adminwho.
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>>126950509
Senaat's an admin again, but it's anyone's guess as to if the person posting with his name is actually him.
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>>126950639
I can't, I'm busy ERPing on VORE
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>>126950509
http://ss13.pomf.se/index.php/admins
The African is back.
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when i try to join any server BYOND freezes
what do
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>>126950967
stop being chill
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>>126950509
It's L I T E R A L L Y me.

>>126950402
In response to your deleted post, non-Box maps got picked a few times a day but surely you agree Box was the go-to map for the VAST majority of the time. I don't see how having a vote for what people want to play is a bad thing. If the majority wants to play Meta/Deff/Taxi, that's fine. If they want to play Box, that's also fine.

You can even make it supermajority and if none get it, a random map, and Box would still win a lot of the time.

And having entirely new maps made is easier said than done, mapping isn't easy and takes time, and designing a map isn't easy either.

I'll talk to pomf about it later, though. Gonna spend some QUALITY time with my girlfriend now though.

>>126950337
That's my point.
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>>126951187
>girlfriend
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>>126932420
Then either you were the only one with it or no one died or had it stripped off them. It doesn't really let you know it's working until it works.

>>126931007
Supposedly it works anywhere on your person, there was a github fix for that but for safeties sake I just leave it in my pocket. That way anyone stripping you won't see it until they've taken it off, either by stripping your uniform or taking it out of the pocket.
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>>126951187
I agree there- I deleted it because I realized that (and because I have reason to believe you're really Senaat and not just some anon impersonating him).

As for the maps, I figured that they would be better simply because they would be made specifically for the players, and so would run little to no risk of rejection. To my knowledge, that's the real underlying issue, that the maps were made with nobody else's involvement in them.
>>
>>126948537
where is janiborg maid
>>
>>126952357
fuck off
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>>126952357
BOOTY BORGS WHEN later
>>
THERES A /v/ THREAD GET THE BUNKER UP
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>>126952662
There'll be one every day till its box only
>>
Am I the only one who suicides when they join a non-Box map in progress?

I'm not gonna try to learn that shit when everything is falling apart around me.
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>>126952945
why join if you're just going to suicide?
>>
Map rotation is a god awful idea, when are we going back.
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>>126952813
>>126952945
Nice falseflag
>>
>>126952995


>Join and pick role without even noticing it's not box

>Time to throw myself out of an airlock now
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>>126952995
Because I reflexively click join every time I load the game.

>>126953046
Please refrain.
>>
>>>/v/322025162
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>>126953226
I said falseflag not samefag. You're obviously people in favor of rotation trying to make voters look bad.
>>
Whats the most number of people you've ever seen put in the brig or prison?
>>
>>126952945
You know, almost every other server has Box permanently. Why not go there instead?
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>>126953520
The entire server of about 80 or so aside from the captain and a head of security was in prison about 2 years ago, they used a combination of the lockdown, barriers and permabrig and they were all stuffed in the top left hand corner of the brig on box.
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>>126953334
Alright, which one of you is there playing "Ask the Shitmin"?
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>>126953667
actually, that is incorrect.

VGstation is the only server that runs box. Its one of its primary draws.
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>>126953758
thats a special event, i mean during a normal game.
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>>126953901
That sounds like a great reason to change it.
All we need are a bunch of new shitters coming to our server specifically because of the fucking map.
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>>126954048
That was during normal game, they systematically did that
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>>126947235
Not the jojo guy but anyway, I take it that the 4 on the left are the wrapped around the face? Shouldn't the view next to the back view have the tail of the scarf on the front AND back and not just the back? Also maybe it should have a little more cloth around the neck area in the side views? Again just shooting amateur observations out of my ass. Like you have cloth around the neck in the front folded one and that all looks great but like you said it's coming off a bit bandana-ish.
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>>126953334
SHUT-IT-DOWN.tiff
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>>126954102
MUH SPECIAL EXCLUSIVE /VG/ CLUB
fuck off, the servers already dying
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>>126954249
The server isn't dying.
There's a reason we aren't public.
Fuck off and be a retard somewhere else.
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>>126954249
>the servers already dying
I've heard that atleast once a week for the last 3 years.
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>>126954402
>/vg/ in 2013
110 players average at peak
>/vg/ in 2014
70 players average peak
>/vg/ early 2015
60 players average peak
>Today
47 players at peak

"not dying"
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>>126954676
There was well over 70 players just a few days ago, fuck off you salty faggot
also, who the fuck wants 100+ players, thats fucking terrifying
>>
>>126954676
I can make up numbers too.
>/vg/ in 2013
12 players average at peak
>/vg/ in 2014
123 players average peak
>/vg/ early 2015
1234 players average peak
>Today
!!12345!! players at peak
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>>126954895
No there wasn't
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>>126954676
>110 players

Oh great, so it was Greytide: The Server.
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>>126954953
>twelve thousand players on fire
Why
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>>126955026
It was every desk was fully manned but running at a slide show, but it was fun - we had cargonia battles often
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>>126954676
>/vg/ in 2012
~40 players average at peak
>/vg/ in 2013
Two servers, one with an average of 10 and the other with an average of ?? players until Pomf showed up and the servers merged, so we had an average of about 30-40 players.

>/vg/ in 2014
The server was plagued with lag issues for a while so we lost some players until that was resolved, playerbase was 30 average throughtout the year
>/vg/ early 2015
The TG drama gave us a massive influx of shit players, regularly hit 60-70 players during peak if not more.
>Today
Still getting 60+ during peak almost every day. We've got 60 right now.
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>>126954249
secret clubs are good things

you'd only disagree if you've always been a shitty bandwagoner
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>>126955179
When thingulos hosted we regularly had way over 90 cockface

Whats your ID so I can see how new you are
>>
How do I use lathes?
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>>126955336
>Whats your ID so I can see how new you are

Try using your eyes, buddy. And i started playing during the first day of Velyks, we definitely didn't have 90+ players back then.
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>>126955336
That is his ID. He's an admin, he should know the server historybetter than you.
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>>126955496
First day of velyks was after two major server switches which isolated a large number of player base

Thingo/apeh was double that
Norodo was still near numbers

your literally new
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>>126955336
>Whats your ID so I can see how new you are
>>
>>126955650
Yeah, okay buddy. What's your ckey then, oh wise shitposting oldfag?
>>
>>126955786
hallo i am admin pls dont doubt my trip
>>126955848
harleyquinn faggot read and weep
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>>126955848
It might be Apeh, he's been shitposting ever since being banned.
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>>126955848
Senaat1
Send me dick pics to my steam
id/senaat1
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>>126955893
Apeh's been a terrible player ever since he started playing on /vg/ again, who the fuck even cares.
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>>126955893
Why would Apeh get banned?
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WHO BA'AL HERE?
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>>126956079
he tried playing a clown captain and then welderbombed when someone treated him like a clown
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How do I remove ads?

One of them is apparently causing DreamSeeker to crash.
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>>126955943
Sent <3
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>EXTENDED
>fire fights in the hallway
>the most inept security forces I have ever seen
>5 of them failed to tase on science nerd
>they just run up to him with a taser and freeze up
>EXTENDED
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You're in the club and this guy walks up to your girlfriend and smacks her on the ass

What do you do?
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>Extended
>Dead crewmen: 28
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>>126956269
Captain here, mad spic?
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>>126956269
>watching entire Ba'al thing
>security officer walks up to me, beats me down with the taser, tases me, and walks away
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>built tag laser turrets in the MoMMI nest for shit and giggles
>realize I need people for them to actually shoot
>build one in escape
>it still doesn't shoot
>realize I need someone from the opposite team to trigger it
>bring in laser tag locker in escape
>people put the vest on and get attacked by the turret
>some chucklefuck destroys it
aww

also I managed to fix my nanoUI by setting all the activeX settings to the "least secure" ones
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>>126953901
This is just absolutely wrong. /tg/ station uses Box. Hippie uses Box. Paradise uses box. They all use Box.
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>>126956424
He got punished by Ba'al, no worries.
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So I just saw an ad on TV for Little Caesar's that had EH EH
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>>126956547
Don't you do that.
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>>126956680
I'm serious.
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>Geneticist on extended
>Spread powers all over
>Turn into Guy Fieri
>There's some vox eating everything he finds
>People dissolving all over
>Hulks breaking walls
>Went into the bar, injected pun pun and it turned into a deep dark skinned guy called "Reese White"

Genetics is the most hilarious shit when it goes somewhere
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Medbay is the wild ride for the staff as well.

Why was there so much blood and death?
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>>126956468
also I drifted off at round end, I got to the roid and decided to mine
>mfw
poor miner who will never get this
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>A few ROBUST MEN

>A sea of DIPSHITS

>And ANTAGS

>A SERVER BY POMF

>A DESIRE FOR...

>VALIDS

>/VG/STATION
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>>126956784
>get killed by lasers after escape
>eat/kill everything before i die
>die
>ANDTHENASKELINGTONPOPSOUT.jpg
>IM BACK BABY!
>badmins bomb me

feels bad man
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>>126956784
How did you miss that whole Ba'al thing?
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>do nothing all round
>get a pAI
>hear about Ba'al
>decided to make an altar to Ba'al
>nobody wants to sacrifice themselves to Ba'al
>break into genetics and take monkeys then humanize them, cut their heads off on the altar, and pray to Ba'al, then suicide

Feels good.
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>>126956784
>hand out hulk and super eating
>greytide devour the station in five minutes flat, guaranteed shuttle call

Never ceases to be amusing.
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>>126956269
>tfw pete zuh is never coming back
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ready up for box
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Box getting the taxi roid when?
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>>126957768
>Box starting with TWO random artifacts
Way to ruin the perfect Box with two power draining artifacts.
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SUP BRAHS.

SARCA HERE.

LOOK AT MY WALL OF TEXT PLEASE.

https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/7353

LET'S HOPE NEXIS DOESN'T DELETE IT.
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Taxi / Deficiency vox station when ?
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So, how do you stack items in your inventory? Didn't really see anything about that in the guide and I kinda need it for chef shit.
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>>126956157
And then proved himself to be a shameless faggot incapable of understand a captain's job in his appeal.
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>>126958458
Oh yeah VGstation is S0000000 much better then /tg/!

Like shitty coders who do what they want (Dylan, Deity, and Ririchiyo)
Like shitty admins who do what they want (literally all of them)
Like a shitty host who does absolutely nothing and lets his server slide down into bay 2.0

>Muh VG pride!!!
How's YOUR convoluted rules going for you? Here on /tg/ were actually trialing low rules. Meanwhile on /vg/, it's MEDIUM RP WEEK, YOU CAN GET BANNED FOR NOT ANNOUNCING YOUR PRESENCE AS ANTAG

How's no security at all going for you? Never have the no Sec problem on /tg/, meanwhile on VG it's 0,0,0 every round

How's literally projecting all of VG's faults onto /tg/ working for you?

How's your server elitism and panick bunker anytime someone sneezes going for you?

How's your dead forum that is only used for ban appeals to get denied is going for you?

How's the shitty constant button mashing going for YOU elimicuck?

>B-b-uh TG has shit features!
How are the yellow airlocks going for you?
How's your convoluted get shot once bleed out two seconds later medical system going for you?
How's Guardian borgs going for you?
How's your two broken buggy maps and illusion of choice going for you?
How's your furfaggotry and vox self inserts going for you?
How's your server crashing every other round going for you?
How's the unbalanced game modes and VGSci going for you?

Oh VG cuck. Just because you type up a wall of text doesn't make any of it true. You will NEVER EVER play Gang, Abduction, Shadowling, as a Slaughter Demon, or as a morph.

You will NEVER EVER!!

NEVER EVER!

HAHAAHAH
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>>126958867
Sup Oranges.
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>>126958867
Again?
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>>126959049
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I can't take pressure, any time I'm anything other than Shaft or grey I just have to kill myself. Please help me.
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>>126958594
There's no such thing.
You can use a foodbag to specifically store more food, or a plantbag for plants, but that's it.
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>>126959294
Tiles.
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>>126958458
>[players] will magically report their grievances in the form of a bug report. After this is done for a while, the map will magically be "fixed"
>magically
>magically
Apparently everyone here is a fucking wizard because there's already almost two pages worth of map bug reports, which according to you, is witchcraft of the highest degree.
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>>126957960
>Xenoarch digs up artifacts and brings them to the research outpost for testing
>Fucks up my cult base with an N2O plasma shitting teleporting DNA scrambling radiation making artifact before I can stun and convert him

FUCK YOU JACK YOU DUMB CUNT
THE RESEARCH OUTPOST IS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR RESEARCHING CULT RUNES AND MAKING CHLORAL
NOT YOUR SHITTY USELESS FUCKING XENOARCH SHIT THAT DESTROYS THE ASTEROID
EVERY TIME I AM ANTAG I AM FUCKING KILLING YOU FIRST THING BECAUSE YOU FUCKING RUIN EVERYTHING
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>>126945710
>Paramedic
>"He's got 30 seconds... waste of time", before dropping the body to die

Classic, it's perfect
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>>126955878
>harleyquinn
>eenkog not posting a picture of ye olde space
yeah nah fuck off m8
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>>126958867
I have seen the same copy pasta the last few days.
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>>126959729
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>>126959638
Videogames
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>>126959352
Only on hand
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>>126945710
>my Shaft Miner and Sec picks got in
Neat!
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>>126960152
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>play for like 5 minutes last night
>decide to try and play a game today
>for some reason every time I play any game Dream Seeker stops working as soon as an ad comes on
>this is for every server and every game
>restarted PC
>nothing
>uninstalled and reinstalled
>nothing
>run as admin
>still crashes
send help
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>>126959638
>implying Eenkogneeto has any credibility

He was just an orbiter of Elyina and Nohra for the most part, the guy is a leech.
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>>126959514
You shoutk have set up in the Vox Outpost, anything else is begging for discovery by the AI or a bored Warden.
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what if we had a map that was a boat
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>>126960292
See
>>126937685
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>intall beyond
>tell it not to have a icon or be in the start menu
>tell it to launch
>wizard closes, but doesn't launch it
>can't find how to start it up now

plz help.
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>>126912024
>>126912034

if you ask nicely admins can remove bombcap for a shift.
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>>126959363
Excuse me, if you say they already were doing it, then why the need to force other people to play the maps? The intent was to get the people who normally do not make reports about to make reports about why it is they dislike the other maps. Not the people who typically make reports to keep making reports. Of course there will be issues reported, but normally by either the coders or admins, not the TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC, the people who don't like the maps and overwhelmingly vote against it.

Use your brain you fucking tards. Why can't you pick up on something so simple?
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>read thread
>a shit captain got lynched and then jobbaned for uploading lelsofunnay laws to an ai

THANK GOD

THANK CREW

THANK ADMINS

Too often does the AI get stuck with bullshit laws with no reprecussion.
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>>126960669
To think that same comdom once hosted our server back in the day. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
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>>126960628
I meant that they are doing it NOW.
Go look at the repo and see the sudden spike in map bugreports right as soon as randomized maps got forced.
Then look at how map bugreports didn't happen before.
Use your brain you fucking sperg. Why can't you pick up on something so simple?
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>>126960303
He said he was harleyquinn, i said thats bullshit because the usual pictures weren't posted
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>>126960503
fockin nice one m8, thanks.
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>>126960628
>Of course there will be issues reported, but normally by either the coders or admins, not the TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC, the people who don't like the maps and overwhelmingly vote against it.
I had to read this twice to realize just how far your retardedness has come.
Go look at the recent map bugreports. Nearly all of them are made with the webreport tool, some people have even made fresh github accounts to create reports.
e.g.: THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC, not the coders, not the admins, fuck off sarca I honestly can't believe how stupid you're being right now.
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>>126960571
Someone please respond, how can I launch it without a icon on the start menu and desktop icon?
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What does it mean if you cant talk?
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>>126961218
Search for it, of course.
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>>126961316
Whats the name of it? I'm searching for it but can't find it.

Sorry about being a fucking retarded faggot.
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>>126961218
check the lower right corner for a blue atom looking icon.
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>>126961279
Are you a mime? If not, something very bad has likely happened to you.
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>>126961463
Thanks, found it.

I clicked on it, but it doesn't seem to be working.
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How do I connect to the fucking server
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>>126960238
>Tfw Honksie wont grant you infinite bananas so you spend a two hour round loading coins into your cart so you can fill the shuttle with so many peels a locker wont clean it
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>>126960864
But who is the THEY? I see a few regular users, but most are from admins and coders, or people who already actively submitted bug reports. People submit more bug reports because they are playing the map more to recognize more bugs. Now I know what you, the idiot who cannot make distinctions between two similar things is going to say: "THAT'S THE POINT! OMG" But it's not the point. Nexis thinks people don't like the other maps and these people who don't like it, all 50 something of them are now going to magically start submitting bug reports. And that if these bug reports are addressed (wow this room has a light now! I love Taxistation!) they'll change their minds. It's idiotic.

You're unable, like many stupid people, to consider multiple things at once and choose to stick on this. You are assuming that this does anything to make people want to play on these maps or that this goal to make people play them is even a worthwhile one that justifies the means. Nobody is answering these questions, certainly not Nexis.

I don't feel like having this argument with you. I've already said all that needs to be said on the github thread and don't particularly care to discuss it further. Of course I'm sickened by the increasing tyranny of these fuckers but it doesn't effect me much, and nobody cares to listen so why bother? I've said my say. No more.

>>126961075
That's just wrong though.
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>>126960303
I have never orbited. Ive always been very vocal.
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>>126961629
SHIT meant to reply to >>126961396

I got it to open but closed out of it and now the icon is gone. What the fuck?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE4UqgvXsiE
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>>126961984
All the bwoinks are making me have to check the game.
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>>126961463
I dont think i'm the mime.
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>>126959514
>getting mad at someone doing their dangerous job
I bet you get mad at a Virologist giving you a disease because you decided to set up shop there.
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>>126961728
But one last thing. The proper thing to do would be to have a server poll where players were asked:

>Would you ever play on the other maps?

Yes, if bugs were fixed.
Yes, if big changes were made.
Maybe
No, never.

>Why do you like Box station?
And have it be freeform.

And take it from there. But it won't be done. Pomf is spineless, and Nexis is a tyrant. Enjoy forced map rotation forever and enjoy repelling more players and attracting more whiny crybabies.
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>>126961868
Oh please, you were Elyina's little pet when he was still an admin.
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>>126961728
>I've said my say. No more.

That's what you said on countless other issues ever since you were kicked off the Adminbus. Why are you even here when even you don't want to be involved with /vg/station any longer?

>>126962210
This coming from the whiniest crybay of all. You've been whining nonstop ever since you lost your position of power, and then lie about it to hide how jealous you are of what you've lost.
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>>126961728
Sarca.
Give me your hand.
I'm going to fucking hold your hand through the first page of the github right now.
Let's go. Come on, quit being a fucking baby and let's go. What do we see?
We're seeing two map bugreports made by admins. Then let's count.
One.
Two.
Three ckeys from regular players, ckeys that I've never even seen before.
Four, there's termedclepe. Remember him? He sure as fuck is not an admin or coder.
Five. There's Yahir.
Six.
Seven. This guy literally made an account just to make map bugreports, isn't that neat?
Eight.
Let's go to the second page. Nine.
Ten.
Eleven. Twelve. Thirteen.
That's thirteen map bugreports MADE BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T USUALLY MAKE BUGREPORTS, AT LEAST TEN DIFFERENT CKEYS.
WOW.
ISN'T THAT JUST FUCKING MAGICAL?
IT'S ALMOST LIKE
HOLD ON THIS IS AMAZING
IT'S ALMOST LIKE THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS EXPECTED
AND EXACTLY WHY THIS WAS DONE
AND IT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING!
>I don't feel like having this argument with you.
Oh sarca, you love being a shit and arguing, until you start to slip up a little bit, then arguing is not even FUN anymore! You poor thing!
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>>126962284
if you knew your /v/station lore you would know i very often disagreed with elyinas decisions and more than once said that they shouldnt be the group owner.
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>>126962210
You forgot a regular "Yes" response. Most players aren't as blindly dedicated to Box as you think they are, and some may not like Boxstation at all.

But you won't listen to that, because you'd just say they were stupid and wrong. Go crawling back to your 36 overlords at TGstation and jack off to whatever horribly sprites abomination they're adding now.
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>>126961728
>People submit more bug reports because they are playing the map more to recognize more bugs.
That's EXACTLY THE FUCKING POINT YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER
>"THAT'S THE POINT! OMG" But it's not the point.
It's LITERALLY THE POINT
>all 50 something of them are now going to magically start submitting bug reports
that's LITERALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING
Holy shit, you've somehow managed to describe exactly what's happening, which is exactly contrary to what you wanted, and somehow still think you're right.
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>>126961940
Can someone help? I opened it but then closed it and now the icon is gone.
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>>126962497
cool, it was successful, way to go, now can we go back to voting for maps please
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>>126962859
It is successful, not was. Is, present tense.
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>>126962839
Search for BYOND on your computer. You know how to do that, right?
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New thread soon, guys!
the previously should just say:
GAS THE BOX
MAP WAR NOW
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>>126963104
I did, but the only thing that comes up is the installer.
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>>126962968
>is successful
>so we keep doing it forever
i don't like to threaten "oh my god fuck this i'm leaving forever unless you change it" but if it's happening for an indefinite period of time, taxi alone is enough of a reason for me to find another serb
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>>126963158
Look at the folder that was in. Are you just completely computer illiterate?
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>>126963215
It's been in effect for all of two days, drama queen.
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>>126940976
you dont need an autolathe in RnD
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>>126961390
Its called Byond, not Beyond.
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>>126963237
Looked in the folder, and it's not there. It was an icon in the bottom right, but it fucking disappeared when I opened it.

Pretty much, sorry for being a retard.

>>126963497
I know, I searched for that and nothing appeared but the installer.
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>>126963559
open your Program Files (x86)\BYOND\bin\ folder and doubleclick BYOND.exe
make a shortcut for it on your desktop or wherever
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Can we deadmin Soca already?
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>>126962497
>You will never hold Sarca's hand while he shrilly yells at you in his girly ass voice about how you're embarrassing him
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>>126963559
Anon, I...

You might have brain problems. Install Byond, open the Byond folder in your program files, and click the Byond executable. If it doesn't bring up a window, it'll be in your system tray. Its a blue icon with a sort of atomic looking nucleus thing.
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>>126962382
I resigned, wasn't kicked off. Nice revisionism.

The truth is, I don't really feel like discussing it with you people any more. The problem is this. You people are just straight up retarded. I don't know if I'm just smart, or you people are just stupid, but you repeatedly misunderstand and misinterpret what I say when I make it as simple as possible to understand. Another thing that is done is that you simply omit things that I say from your response, and focus on one tiny little thing you identify as a chink in the proverbial armor and refuse to even address the rest (exactly what happened in the above discussion). Even when I go out of my way to predict you'll say exactly what you say, and offer a response before you say it you go back and say it anyway, just like this guy does. >>126962832 And even if there is one among you who isn't just plain stupid, you're so biased and close minded that you immediately shun the truth, and when your lies are disproven, you go on to repeat the lies at a later date as if nothing happened. Then there are the dumbfucks who want to have a discussion but aren't even willing to read like 4 paragraphs, like they've never read in their entire lives.

Most of the admins are retarded in this way too, it's sad when Senaat and Niggly, the people with slightly above average intelligence are the smartest people you have.

It's just tiring, and there's no point.

>>126962497
Yahir and Termedclepe I've seen make bug reports in the past. They aren't the target demographic. You've ommitted the rest of the names, and aside from the one guy who you say made an account to do it, that's all ya got.

No more.
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>>126963882
I installed it. I'm not THAT much of a retard.

Okay maybe I am.

>>126963774
This worked, I guess i just gotta make a shortcut then. Thanks.

Once again, sorry for having the intelligence of a nigger in Detroit.
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>>126964117
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>>126964117
>Most of the admins are retarded in this way too, it's sad when Senaat and Niggly, the people with slightly above average intelligence are the smartest people you have.

Fuck off Sarca.
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Seriously though, why can't I talk. I'm not the mime.
>>
Daily reminder that the only people who will ever report bugs are "boxbabies".

Daily reminder than anyone who is not a boxbaby is a leech on the server who refuses to bug report their own favorites.
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How do you become a borer?
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>>126964482
Take a ryetalyn.
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>>126964687
you become a ghost and then hope someone else will hatch a borer egg.

You then don't become a borer because borer eggs are bugged and don't work 80% of the time.
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>>126964117
>No more

That's what you said last time. Maybe you're the one lacking in intelligence, you narcicisstic cunt. Why do you even show up here when you could be making a serb that's SOOOO much better than ours with one hand tied behind your back?
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>>126965369
He can't he's too busy jacking it while admiring himself in the mirror with the other, hue.
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>>126965369
learn reading comprehension.
He told you that YOU have no more.
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>>126965537
>>126965369
Damn greys learned to use the thread again.
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>>126965550
He specifically said it in regard to not wanting to continue the argument he himself started. Which is the act of a pussy who can't finish what he starts.
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>>126964117
Sarca I'm serious I would have you hate fuck me so badly my god
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>>126964117
>when your lies are disproven, you go on to repeat the lies at a later date as if nothing happened.
Could it be that your disproval is wrong, and possibly just stupid?
>Yahir and Termedclepe I've seen make bug reports in the past.
Let's assume that because those two have made scant bugreports in the past, that they somehow don't count at all. That's eleven bugreports left. What was that about "chink in proverbial armor" again?
Come on Sarca, you're allegedly a smart guy and everyone else is stupid, surely you can look into those, right? I even said I'd hold your hand.
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>>126965726
And yet, that's not what the "you have no more" in question is.

He told you that YOU have no more examples. To which you replied "lol ur a fagget". Thus sort of proving his point, that you had no more valid examples. And that you aren't really reading his replies.
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>boxbabies produce bug reports in a timely manner on any map they play
>everyone else sits around whining about everything for months with no results

amazing.

Also, no changes in the maps yet, or any on the horizon. Are the coders even working?
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>>126966323
>everyone who is convenient for me to call boxbabby is actually a boxbabby due to my own word
will you just shut up
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>>126966486
>bug reports only occur when you force the boxbabbies to play other maps
Literally the purpose of this whole random maps thing is to make boxbabbies bug hunt.

Nobody else was doing it until the boxbabbies were forced to.

Enjoy knowing that you are forever indebted to boxbabies because you are incapable of their productivity or diligence.
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>>126965263
Have you reported it?
Borers work fine when someone takes the job to set them. Remember they need both plasma and oxygen, too little of any means no borers.
Also borers require willing ghosts, not everyone wants to be one.
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>>126965754
>You've omitted the rest of the names
>You've omitted the rest of the names
>You've omitted the rest of the names

Exactly what I mean when I say you people can't read. Why should I believe that those other eleven reports are by people who aren't admins, or that these people weren't regular bug reporters prior to the map change?

And in regards to the chink in proverbial armor I am of course referring to you completely ignoring the rest namely the entire github post and of course this which is the most important part:

>You are assuming that this does anything to make people want to play on these maps or that this goal to make people play them is even a worthwhile one that justifies the means. Nobody is answering these questions, certainly not Nexis.

But for real this time, I can't keep spending my time debunking you. I've said enough and enough is enough. No more baiting me into responding.
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>>126966657
I haven't reported it because I can't even begin to describe why the bug occurs or how to reproduce it.

It just happens most times for some reason I have no idea. I mean you'd think the problem is gas amount, but all my tests don't indicate that. FURTHER exacerbating this is I have no "hatch on command" feature to help the testing.
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>>126965880
>backpedaling this hard

>>126966742
Now, now, is it so hard to admit when you're wrong? Here, since looking at github is hard I'll do it for you.

ekkosangen
SarahJohnson489
jeroen52
xevonix (Yahir)
alone (Jakjak)
Imagebard
MemeFury (the guy who flat-out says this is his first bug report)
somhuan
pseudonym

Go ahead and ignore this then. You would do so anyway because you're always right because Sarca can never, ever be wrong.

>>126966647
Not a ringing endorsement of their abilities, given that they never reported anything that didn't have to do with box until they were forced to.
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ICK IN OCK
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>>126966916
>Not a ringing endorsement of their abilities

It means they are literally better at bugfixing and being good citizens than any other map group.

Considering they are the ONLY ONES who actually will report bugs. The other map babbies had numerous chances during the voting era and did nothing with them.
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>>126966742
>You are assuming that this does anything to make people want to play on these maps or that this goal to make people play them is even a worthwhile one that justifies the means. Nobody is answering these questions, certainly not Nexis.

I'll answer it.

If the maps are improved in ways that make them more fun to play, OF COURSE people will play them more. How is it not worthwhile when it breaks up an otherwise dull and predictable routine that has minimal variation even with different game modes?

>>126967063
No, it means that they can't be bothered to do it unless literally forced to do so. And those "boxbabbies" may in fact be the same people as the other mapbabbies and you don't even know it.
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>>126967280
>No, it means that they can't be bothered to do it unless literally forced to do so.

Which is significantly better than other map babies, who refuse to report bugs at all ever, given their track record.

Box babies: The literal only players on this server who care about making it better.
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>>126967413
>Which is significantly better than other map babies, who refuse to report bugs at all ever, given their track record.

Do you even know who they are other than a nebulously defined mass of boogeymen? You might be surprised.
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>>126967560
>do you even know who they are?

An extremely small group who are extremely non-active in bug fixing, thus requiring box-baby support from people who wouldn't bugfix normally.
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>>126967621
So like the rest of the playerbase, only arbitrarily defined. Gotcha.
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>>126968079
box babies are those guys responsible for box always being voted.
You know, the ones other map babbies cry about every time box was voted.
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