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ethnic redditors fuck off edition

old thread:>>126701978


>New league Talisman info
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1478438

>/poeg/ HC guild (No sporkers allowed), drop your IGN if you want an invite
https://www.pathofexile.com/guild/profile/740

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP (embed) (embed)

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>2.0 Passive Skill Tree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree

>2.1 Offline Skill Tree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.3

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Delete This
https://github.com/ben-wallis/Filtration
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>>126793636
Is this what this is about, you just defending your shitty build? Why do you have to do this, your build isn't a reflection of you as a person. Just because your skill tree is objectively inferior to another persons doesn't mean you should be angry, if anything it offers you a moment of introspection to allow you to review your decisions and prevent future mistakes.
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>>126793894
>>126793894
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>>126793945
a real build.
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>>126793937
kek. im not even that guy

i merely explained double dippin and pointed out poison can double dip, on a few things
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>>126794176
ok why are these useless builds on the frontpage forums?
whats a cheap crit shitcore build is if every single thing is so fucking bad
no fucking rain of whoevers just something you can do with your characters own hands no pussybullshit
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>>126794325
CoC bladefall is muy insane.
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Is there anything better than crawling through act 4 cruel into act 1 merc and literally one shotting everything? Really makes you feel as if your build has finally come together. I fucking hate cruel a4. It's almost worth it for the rush you feel when you kill hillock before he pulls out his sword.
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Alkaizer is the best POE streamer

>always HC
>always solo
>no twitch drama
>listens to touhou remixes
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>>126794492
>>>BLADEFALL
I dont want blades to fall out of the sky
i want my attacks to.. bring the destruction upon my foe, like in the good old days of ele cleave and reave
i dont wanna hit something and have a bunch of bullshit fall from the sky
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>>126794590
okay.

how about cyclone. or cyclone
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>>126794509
agreed senpai
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>>126794637
that's it?
that's the epic softcore glasscannon ability?
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>mfw lebbiturds don't even know about the secret poeg guild that never gets mentioned
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>>126794872
you mean the standard one? because that shit is never posted.
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>kobe dies AGAIN
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>>126794590
Just play reave.
There have been a ton of QoL buffs to reave. You can whirling blades without losing stacks now.
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Have not played in a while. Which new skill should I build around?
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>>126795082
reave is pretty insane.
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>find a rare with same exact affixes you have, but high rolls

thank you rng gods
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>>126795082
reave, bladefall, blade vortex, lightning arrow's FoTM again, KB is still good.
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>>126794997
alright so is there a noob reave spoonfeeding guide for me to use
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>>126795268
1. Make sure your weapon is decent.
2. Use multistrike.
3. Do whatever your want it's all good.
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>>126795268
ShiggyD's southpaw reave isn't actually that bad and is more than good enough until you figure things out again.
Or you can dick around with poison. Poison reave's fucking insane come late high end maps.
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the new armor looks pretty good desu
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Who here knows they're good at the game and isn't afraid of posting their build tree and build links for /poeg/ to critique.
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>>126795498
can i poison reave with 0 money on scrubcore?
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>>126794509
that's because he's a diablo 3 streamer and diablo 3 is a better game so it attracts higher quality streamers
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>>126795082
storm call
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>>126795753
me

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAAOyiFDgOWNCBuPSImYEO-gIMJRnFvnrQMnKTqusrThxMNfL6KdweTJ6EvbAt_xu-IIvQRlvk3bRkOSJAbBx7XzxFQ2VuX9Aj0XfJwVpUuSbE1uRslUlPAVCoLKwqaE_DVpyuXlT1fvOpqQ3BSES_b1I_6SVFMs4nT62PQ0FxA6_Ugbq6z0B8EB4w2tUg2PUcGX2pUvWSdUDBBlu_rg9tVS52q8uHYdhXt8h3bXgVC0PVVxmHibIxjQ7k-lossnDpYJpVirKxm1bkWvyzhD6tqjHX9JIv1b4RvwzrIFCo4otmw2Euu6QK5k8MJ
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>>126796406
Still have two more jewel slots to go. I'm actually impressed. They make groundslam feel decent. Rapid expansion jewels are pretty based.
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>>126796632
I feel like threshold jewels are going to hold skills back the further they go with them. You basically certain skills without threshold jewels anymore, if anything it feels like it takes away diversity that should have been already implemented into the skill.
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>>126795268
I made a Reave build with Binos and ended up using Frost Blade half of the time instead. The chill snare is very useful, not to mention you won't have to worry about muh stacks the entire map.
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>>126796831
u want me to buy binos
with what money
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>>126796787
Except it doesn't. It's a way to buff skills without touching their numbers. Which is what they need to do. We don't need more flameblasts or vaal sparks out there. Groundslam wasn't touched because the aoe was awkward. Threshhold jewels fixed that. Cold snap was awkward because of power charge consumption. Jewels baby.
If they ever decide on reworking skills then it might become a problem. GGG's lazy though. I doubt they'll do much more than tweak the aoe and maybe pair it with a threshhold jewel later down the road.

What I am concerned about are how they make you grab so many jewel slots on the passive tree.
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now that incinerate is gutted what is the new fotm hc build
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>>126797180
vortex/bladefall
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>>126796926
Friend found that Bino, and while mapping with him we found a Death's Hand. Pretty much had to make a build with these two after that.
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>>126797310
but the question
is still
What to do on softcore with 0 currency
you tell me about your personal experiences where you got a 1 in a million drop and went and did something exquisite
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>>126796632
jesus

what forms of aoe increasing you got besides the jewel?
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how can i get in touch with chris wilson
id like to talk to him about his definition of "nearby"
cause i think we have different views on that
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What are you supposed to do with all your extra low tier maps?
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D E A D
E
A
D
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>>126797110
>It's a way to buff skills without touching their numbers.

Untrue. It's not even a buff. Just because someone sacrifices a jewel socket and has to take surrounding nodes to fulfill a requirement doesn't mean it's a straight up buff, if anything it's more of a "here you go, it's there now" thing, they still sacrifice the jewel socket and surrounding nodes.

>Threshhold jewels fixed that

my argument is that threshold jewels fix something by damaging other variants of groundslam, not that there are many, but basically if a build requires something like a threshold jewel to function why not input it into the base gem.

It's just lazy of them not to fix the inherently crappy nature of their gems.
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>>126797392
aoe in the templar area and a marohi. I'd imagine a 20/20 AoE gem and those last two jewels would make it amazing.
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>>126797636
Oh. In that case, yeah, you're right. You feel like you're gimped out if you roll crit groundslam since you're already so spread out for points. Grabbing the jewel slots is damn near impossible. My bad anon, didn't understand what you were getting at.
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>>126797513
just post.
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It takes 125 tier 1 talismans to reach a tier 4, is my math right? If it is, it's crazy, an inventory tab has 124 slots...

I'm struggling, there's not enough altars if i don't stop leveling and dump them on smaller/faster to run maps, fuck you ggg.
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>the guru is streaming
>you aren't watching

Why?
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>>126797770
yes hello chris how the fuck is a group of corpses nearly 2 screens away from the strongbox counted as "nearby"
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>>126797770
Do you think they competed in the HC vs SC shitposting.
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>>126797901
You're "supposed" to use them as you go, not bank them all up first.
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>>126798082
In NZ we use "nearby" in a geological context, champ!
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>>126798082
Strongbox detonate dead and player detonate dead are both two different skills. Also different is that Strongbox detonate dead doesn't do 50% fire 50% phys but it still retains the chaining explosione of Vaal Detonate dead.

Detonate Dead's AoE for players got increased by about 60% since the 1.3 deployment patch so I wouldn't be surprised if boxes got changed in a minor way as well. There's no one around in the office to ask these questions to so you'll just have to take my word for it until then
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Sell me on a build with a fun skill that isn't cyclone, bladefall, reave, flicker, mjolner or blade vortex. Already did these.

Out of those flicker was the most fun, but also the one most prone to dying.
Mjolner rips my framerate apart.
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>>126798248
fight me irl you bastard
nearby my ass
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>>126798370
Frost Blade. Fun kicks in when you can do at least 50k dps with it.
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>>126797901

Well you dont really save up all 125 and then use them at once.

You keep like 4 i your inventory so if you get the 5th T1 you can dump it in a circle, and you dump the rest in a stash tab, and once you are seing that the tab is getting cramped, just do a few dried lake runs to use them up.

Also trade them with others to get full sets of the higher tiers.

Sucks if you have 4 tabs only, but what can ya do.
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>>126798370
have you considered cast on crit ice nova + shock nova with elemental equilibrium?

use a fire damage prefixed dagger/jewelry and elemental equilibrium, One of your novas hits for more damage and then the other nova hits for more Damage. It's pretty neat.
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>>126798493

By the time you hit 50k dps with FB you are in the 100k numbers with other skills and completely shitting on all content.
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>>126798493
thats what I used to level my flicker guy.
it's alright, but I prefer braindead shit where I dont need to target stuff.

being able to use whirling blades is also a big plus, that shit is basically flyhacking.
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>>126798670
Sure, I'll give you that. But you're not having FUN LIKE YOU WOULD BE WITH FROST BLADES NOW IS YA
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>>126798585
ee doesnt stack.
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>>126795694
>Taking a screenshot with the map overlay.
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>>126798670
But FREE 7 projectiles man! And the animation sound's pretty satisfying too (for me).
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>>126798921
not that guy, but what he meant is that the novas both hit for the bonus negative 50 resist if they trigger at the same time from a fire attack
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>>126798921
I know it doesn't? Shock Nova Nova and Ice Nova never hit at the same time.
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>>126798921

Ofc it does. If you hit an enemy with all 3 elements the monster gets +25% to all elements.

>>126799154

Damn, i tried it before they buffed it, and honestly it just felt underwhelming, it was hard to scale the dmg, and a pain in the ass to target mobs.
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>>126797770
>chris was the fixed prices autist the whole time
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>>126795082
>new skill
>reave LA KB
kek, just do anything physical/chaos or plan for conversion to chaos/poison and it'll just werk

also requesting sickcore meme guild entrance
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>>126799447
>self cast EK

why not just play bladefall shakin the knob on top of the wickerbasket over here.
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>>126799218
>>126799262

then wouldnt just using a single of those novas with ele pentration and some other synergistic augment would better than 2 novas? why 2 elements?

>>126799281
yeah but i meant that once you trigger it initially, its effect remains unaffected for the remainder of its duration
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I use poe.trade to exchange currency

is this a bad thing? Is that how everyone else does it? cause tradechat seems pretty dead.
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>>126799545
ek's better
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>>126799547
>then wouldnt just using a single of those novas with ele pentration and some other synergistic augment would better than 2 novas? why 2 elements?
because base damage augmentation is much better than % more multipliers.

having 2 base damage skills rather than 1 is always better for CoC.
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>>126799638

When you use tradechat, notice in wich one it puts you. Tradechat 16 is pretty dead compared to /trade 1 or 2
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>>126799641
But that's objectively wrong.

>Bladefall hits more often
>has more AoE
>has more damage

the physical damage on bladefall only accounts for a single volley, even the first volley will always deal more damage.

the only thing EK has is mana cost (-3 base mana) and attribute requirements, the fact that EK can only shoot 10 projectiles limits how many mobs it can kill at a time.
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>>126799547
would you rather add 30-50% more damage to a skill or add 100% more damage via a 2nd skill
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>>126797550
please respond
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>>126799668
still seems to me 2 elements make it inefficient, as you could still have 2 skills and penetration and ele bonuses in gear and tree
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>>126799918
chisel recipe m9
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>>126799795
>muh numbers

go try clearing a map with both skills

bladefall's only advantage is that it has single-target
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>>126799996
That's what Elemental equilibrium is for.

>ele bonuses on gear

like what, you're CoC.

The tree can scale off elemental damage and spell damage and they both scale off of AoE nodes as well.

CoC - nova - nova - cyclone - conc effect - increased aoe

done. easily run blasphemy + warlords mark and a CWDT+BV+PCOC for easy power charges.

And now you have 70% mana left, you could run something like haste or I don't know.
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>>126800091

i think you mean to say that bladerfall's only advantage is that it hits several times per cast on a larger aoe for a lot more damage
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>>126799409
i wish
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>>126800198
but that's wrong as pointed out by my post here >>126799795


Bladefalls single volley already deals the same if not more damage than EK's single projectile hitting a mob. Against more mobs, it also has higher effective DPS and against single targets its wayyy better
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>>126800287
read again
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>>126800153
i remain unconvinced that is as effective as focusing on one element, but ok
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I asked last thread and didn't get an answer.
What are the best uses of Vaal orbs? I have been stock piling them because I never know.
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>>126800481
Have you seen shatterchuck? Because that's literally the same premise, stacking base damage and multiply that base damage via procs.
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>>126800598
currency/chancing uniques if you feel like attempting to get gg items
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>>126800598

using them on 20/20 gems, and on stuff that might get a good corruption
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>>126801346
>>126800674
Alright thanks.
What strongbox types warrant their use?
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>>126801391

Extra socket armor strongboxes and additional # of items jewelry boxes.
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>>126801486
Thanks... tertiary mods don't matter? only need one of those two rolls to be worth it?
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>>126799542
>keep looking for meme guild on forums
>no trace
Too bad shit like ecks dee seems like twitch cancer and sekrit guild is top sekrit
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>>126801524

Yes. Additional sockets on armor box means a high chance of 6s, and corruption raises the chance of getting a 6l dramatically. Mirrored is also nice on armor strongbox.

For jewelry corrupted means a high chance they are going to be rare, so you want high numbers.

And i mean more sockets on weapon and other strongboxes can also be good, but a lot less likely to get 6s.
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>>126801719
Excellent, thank you.
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Can we please pretend Chris is not in this thread right now so redditards wont be enticed to come here.
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>>126797770
i typed this into google and didn't find anything. where's it from what is the picture referencing of?
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>>126798732
crit shockwave totem

brain dead
whirling blades
don't need to spend time in one place killing things
doesn't tank your frame rate like mjolner or coclone
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>>126802523

The drumming malachai.
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>>126802921
stop telling every1
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>>126803312
It's not even that op
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>>126802921

>5% crit chance

Nah man.. just nah.
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>>126803979
Honestly I just said crit because he wanted to use whirling blades. The skill is fine either way though. Shaman's Dominion can carry it.
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How the fuck do I know what Items are worth?

I've got a bunch of uniques and rares that I want to trade that I /think/ are good but I have no idea if they're worth diddly squat.

I don't want to over or under sell something and look like a twat.

Halp.
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I don't understand the random prices on Lioneye's Glare.

>344 pDPS 8c 4-link
>329 pDPS 2c
>323 pDPS 15c
>322 pDPS 17c

Those are the top 4 pDPS online. Are people just retarded? Which of those are the most retarded?
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>>126805405
>>126793794

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

Literally the best advice for you.
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>>126805405
after gearing a few characters you should have a good idea of what might be valuable to someone on a rare item
when you find an item you think might be worth something:
check poe.trade
find similar items with a buyout price (filter by type, base, mods, values)
do this until you have a vague understanding of what things are worth
shouldn't take too long
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>>126803580
yeah it's pretty shitty

;--)
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>>126805405
throw in all the mods on an item if you're really that clueless on poetrade
for uniques it's obvious what the going rate is
for armor aim for at least dual resistances, flat increase to whatever it is + & increase at least 100 if you want to make at least a chaos
for boots movement speed or don't sell it at all unless it has three top tier resistances or something, atspd on gloves, aim for at the absolute minimum 300 dps for bow/2h
worst case just throw it up for a lot and if it doesn't sell in a week half the price, you'll get it as you keep playing and trading and seeing what others price certain things for
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The map device has 4 slots, what happens if I put multiple maps onto it? Only tier 1 right now.
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>>126805509
the one asking the obvious
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poe as a job
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>>126808267

Nothing.

>>126808491

Like any self employment job, if you like it and you are good at it, it can be nice. Depends on where you live.
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>>126808673

:^)
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>>126808553
>tfw youtubers in my country are equivalent of doctors in money gains
It's tempting but my PC is a shitter.
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>>126808387
That 15c also had the worst implicit. I literally have no idea what those prices are based on.
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>>126808884

Same here, im from slavlands. So anyone making more than 1k can be considered well off.

Tfw min wage is 550~ eur
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How to do magic find solo build?

Just use op chaos shit and stack item quantity right?
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>doing map on shit undergeared char
>zana pops up
>mission: slay the corrupted boss
>poorjoy's
>enter the map
>a white hits for over half health
>leave and never go back again

pls comment, rate, subscribe
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>>126809523
>hardcuck skipping challenging content
nothing new here
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>>126809137
Caustic arrow.
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>>126809137
Autistic arrow
Bladefall totems
Flame totems
Super aids
Incinerate totems
Classic summoner
SRS
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this is good right
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>>126809120
300-330 here

>>126808902
from your previous post alone highest price one was arguably the shittiest

>>126809137
SRS (not sure why though, not a summoner player)/CA work pretty well, stack MR, item quantity, get cheap shit like 5l bow

Want to try some Cameria Glacial build after I get it as a drop, kind of sounds fun.
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>>126809658
whereas scrubcore attrition tactics would have had you just run out of time while losing all your exp
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>>126810068
sounds better than funneling your life into repeating the same shit only to die for technical fuck up
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>>126809953
2-3 ex good, yes. Been trying to chance that shit forever.
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>>126810068
back to farming dried lake, hardcuck
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>>126810180
whereas you funnel your exp bar into zero percent from dying over and over again while i level back past you from the my one death
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uhhhhh
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When is + flat physical damage added to the weapon dps calcuation? Like say I had 100% increased phys without + flat phys and then crafted + flat phys on it. Is the flat phys mod just added to the current total damage or to the base before % increased phys?
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https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMA37CSwY6-ES0snNrdpwjr7nyDRUcy0cBm73w8BZ_fgpuaO9Wm7TxXlJ48KU-MdrcxZp5yD3GFlnS2hu0gaPJ8S7iTHNyPGij6mK356ILHXsCIWrc-QYfqug18V8m-isrTtAyTJ-wYwcV_xiy_9HFDVB3ZiEJxTZrPQ2Nj_XrmRtfMt9V1sUI=

this is my first CI build

this is what I have so far

I'm running:
Flameblast with Increased Area of Effect, Faster Casting, and Added Cold Damage

Spell Totem with Storm Call, Increased Area of Effect, and Faster Casting.

I'm using Discipline, Clarity, and Herald of Thunder.

Is EE worth it on this build? I'm not sure how it interacts with things like added cold damage.

What else would you guys recommend? I'm new to making builds.
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>>126810660

First the flat is added, then its all multiplied by %

Thats why flat is so much more important on phys wands and fast aspd daggers.
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Procurement or Acquisition for trading?
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>>126811304
Acquisition by far, procurement is just bloated shit
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Why is trap bladefall so balanced lol
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>>126811736
because you're still playing traps. The damage is balanced by the play style.
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how much do items sell that aren't top-tier

like I see stuff with like 2 decent resistances on poetrade for 1-3 chaos, nothing major, gotten by drops

do people seriously buy that shit?
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>>126812028
yes
people need to meet resistance caps or item requirements while doing mid-level content
a mediocre piece of gear with some res + def + life + stats could be a problem solver for a lot of people
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>>126810621
>no fire damage to spells
>no cast speed
>no crit

1/10 vendor it
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>>126812341
>2015
>crit
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Didnt know kingmakers had an aura
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I'm new'ish to POE. How often do people like Catrina and shit update their for purchase items
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>>126814820
everytime you do their daily
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>>126814865
or if they level up
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WEW

LAD
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What build are you guys going to try. I'm bored and want to see what others are thinking of doing?

I might try something like CoC Cyclone next.
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>>126810680
wtf are you doing senpai your gem setup is retarded

>poebuilder
now i understand why everything is retarded
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>>126811395
Acquisition does everything better. Not even a contest.
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>>126815351

if you went hybrid life/es and crit you build would probably be cheaper and better
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Saw some video of a guy wasting hundreds of chance orbs trying to get a Headhunter belt.
So that reminded me that I totally have that useless belt stashed on one of my alts on standard.
Why are people paying 130-ish exalts for this belt and if I end up selling it how can I make the most broken build with ~100 exalt on standard?
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>>126818423
>how can I make the most broken build with ~100 exalt on standard?
you will need headhunter for that :^)
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>>126818423
because it makes every build broken as fuck
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Is the only benefit to inviting a master to your hideout is to level it a little faster with the daily mission?
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>>126819296
No.
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>>126819296
Doing the daily also refreshes the shop, so thats a thing
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>>126818516
>>126818532
It feels like Headhunter is the icing on the cake kind of item. I can at least not make much use of it, any suggestions for a 100~ exalt build?
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how did fuckboi die?
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>>126810621
>8.00%
>Into the trash
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>some german stream
>hear neversink filter
Exited instantly. Disgusting.
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>>126820082
Pretty much anything that doesn't require a mirrored weapon.
Hell, if you have some pre-existing currency just buy a mirrored weapon. There's nothing quite like one shotting each phase of uber atziri..
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Why does this (SRS) build guide tell me to link: Haste + Vaal Haste? Does the normal Haste aura improve by having Vaal Haste linked to it ?

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1427765/page/1
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>>126820082
Mjölner discharge
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>>126821857
It's to save on sockets so you dont need to run 3x increased duration supports.
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>>126821194
>watching other people play a market appraising sim

must feel bad to be 12
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What's the best item filter?
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>>126821997

Okay so I'm still not 100% sure how that interaction works ? Sorry I tried looking at the wiki and still don't fully understand...

why 2 x Vaal Haste ? you're only casting it from ONE gem source, yeah? and does increased duration even affect normal Haste ?
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>6linked Shavs being sold on THC for 14ex and still no one buying
Alright, thats just sad now.
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>>126822556
It's pretty over the top and not what i'd do but...
Increased duration will have no effect on regular haste. There is no gain from stacking them, you're right. I suspect he has two because he wants to stockpile charges of vaal haste. He has probably just dumped all the gems there because it fits neatly in a 4L.
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>>126822902
Ahh, makes a lot more sense now ! Thanks a bunch friend-o
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>>126822517
neversink's. dont listen to these other autist fagboys. like forreal you assholes make me sick to my motherufcking tummy how autistic you are with loot filters, neversinks is the only one that does it job well
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>>126823175
>neversinks is the only one that does it job well
but only if its job is to make you want to poke your eyes out every time you see it
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>>126823303
hang yourself autist
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>>126822892

>its pretty much "pay for the 6ling, get a shavs for free"

kek

i blame the retarded low chance for t10+ maps that kills the league so fast
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Am i just shit at this game or do rangers start to eat dicks near the end of cruel? I get chunked if something looks at me funny and TS isn't doing damage fast enough to clear shit reliably.
Another thing, should I stick with TS or just use LA and use something like frenzy or burning arrow for single target? LA looks like it does more but I cant tell since im shit.
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>>126825073
youre shit

ranger can be as good/bad as any other starting point
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Wow, I tried out NC. Definitely switching. I like the hardhitting weaponry.
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>>126825073
Everything sucks at the end of cruel

A4 Cruel is the hardest content you have to do before maps
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>>126825073
What >>126825889 said. Do your best to trudge through it. It's all downhill from there. You'll be able to rush straight to act 3 merc without having to stop to farm once.
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>>126825073
Use blast rain
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>>126793794
Gbe me HC guild inv
ign DeusVultYourAss
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haven't played in like a year is this game still a trainwreck where only 3-4 builds are worth a shit?

I heard they took out projectile shotgunning does this mean stuff like flame totems are completely fucked now?
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>>126818196
How so? Don't you need to spec into crit passives?
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>leagues are already dead

nice

game

poetards
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>>126826894
The only skill that was fucked from shotgun removal was freezing pulse,and it was already fucked so it's not like we lost anything.
balance is in a pretty good spot. Then there's bladefall. Bladefall is the new flameblast/spork/baby'sfirstbuild. It's actually fun though, so I don't mind it much.
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>>126826894
There are probably more viable builds right now then there has even been.

Once Ascendancy comes out in early july the number of viable builds will explode
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>>126827162

freezypulse has been getting shit on for a long ass time
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>>126827427
>Once Ascendancy comes out in early july the number of viable builds will explode

its sad you really think so

because ascendancy pretty much just railroads the game into "classic arpg" builds
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>>126827589
Yeah, that caster ranger sure is a classic arpg build
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>>126825828
>Wow, I tried out NC.
That's kewl m8. Personally, I prefer BW, even though a lot of people only use HY. Keep us informed.
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>>126809953
>sc
>steam
>2.1 FT

delete this
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reminder that if you index items you aren't selling then you are a stupid faggot and need to kill you'reself

you know who you are
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>>126828208
>madbabby who cant buy what xhe wants
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>>126827045

yeah you spec into crit
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How viable is to be a zombie spaming lag-generating fuckwad?

What is the best way to do so?
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>almost 2016
>still can't disable master missions from quest tracker
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>>126827721
>caster ranger
yeah, with 2/3 the nodes in her subclass trees applying only to attacks
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>>126828575
Well I'll guess what, I have 24 skill points and 24 refund points to use.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBAuMEswagB6ULYQ48EMwRLRRxGS4aOBo-Jy8n7SkuLJwspzLRNZI62DwtRUdJskrEVw1Y5VnzWiteXV8_ZIRmnmjybqpyD3sgfIN8uIIHghCCm4Nfg8yQVZo7ogCj8qeUr2y18rc-wGbDE8T2xq7R_dIh1abYvdlh2XzfsN-_4XPr7uw47TzwH_Gs8kH2rviT-b3-Cv6H

Here's my current tree with shit I could probably spec right now but don't need to since I have no difficulty doing anything. How much crit would I need.
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>>126810252
I still remember when these went for 35ex. Same with soul taker.

Even before the drop rate nerf soul takers went for 4 ex now they're like 1 ex each. Potentially now they will be more expensive due to challenges + reave build uses a soul taker (and it can work well on ice crash to).
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>>126828679

it's a beta
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>tfw reduced to running t5-t8 maps for 1% xp again because you refused to rmt high tier maps or currency to buy them
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>>126827427
>>126827589
At the moment the number of viable builds that can do end game maps are extremely high mainly because they fixed desync and you're not stuck making builds that work around desync (like the old flameblast).

sustaining maps was way easier though, but nobody really did high end maps consistently because a lot of the time you get desynced and died.
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>>126828815
Chain and 2 Proj+Crit nodes
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>>126828932
what level are you
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No lifers need to hurry the fuck up and start farming T10+ maps so they can unload their T8 maps for 1c each imo.
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>>126829073
90

>>126829009
eh sure. current build variety is much better compared to early 2.0

its just that ascendancy introduces certain building paths that look extremely strong, and 2 things can happen:

either the game is balanced around them
or they are allowed to stomp all over the content

both would reduce the builds people play
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>>126829228
league is already dead

>>126829432
wasting your time running maps that low at 90

a couple residences or bazaars are more than worth the cost

pay up
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>>126829808

i trust rng to give me some t9+'s before i run out of t8s
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>>126829432

there's tons of viable builds right now, but that doesn't mean there's variety right now

80% of the ladder will always be playing the cheapest and most braindead option (spork/flameblast/flame totem/bladefall/etc)

you can be a hipster spending tons of currency and planning to make a skill work that'll perform no better than Shitcrowx playing his cyclone coc build with a tabula and vagan dagger he copied from the forums

and that won't change after ascendency unless they rebalance difficultly (which would just kill the game instantly). people already stomp all over content, the only gate on the endgame is shitty droprates
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>>126830801

BRING BACK
SHOTGUN
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>>126829432
>>126830801
There's a difference between something being able to clear almost everything in the game and things that are viable.

The viable stuff at the moment is the braindead clear entire screen stuff since they nerfed reflect mobs hard that only they reflect and not the group (they should put reflect back to how it was to be honest).

They removed the thing that kept mass AoE clear the entire screen builds in check, but they didn't nerf these skills or builds.

Reason that people stomp over content is removal of things that kept it in check that I mentioned above, also beyond added a layer of difficulty.

Cast on crit just needs to be removed its broken overpowered ever since it was in the game same with old CWDT immortal call setup.

The people who race to 100 usually have a group to support them otherwise you don't stand a chance. You can no life in a week to 91 but people by then are already 98 because they run in groups putting domination on everything with a guy that has such ridiculous damage that speed doesn't matter and you earn much faster xp than everyone else due to it.

>>126830903
lol shotgun had the most braindead builds.

Hurrr tornado shot entire screen clear! Oh noes I get hit CWDT immortal call - lol ez game can't die 77/78 maps all day. That was what the game was like pre 2.0, even more braindead for ranged characters.

Meanwhile playing melee: ''have to skip cells boss since his multiple projectiles kill me in 0.2 seconds".
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>>126828560
>pissing people off is ebic trolling

yeah, nah, you're just a dumb asshole
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>>126831685
why are you mentioning tornado shot in a conversation regarding shotgunning

>coc is op
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>>126831823
because getting shotgunned with TS by random blue beyond archers with 6k hp to standard in beyond was the most retarded thing ever.
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>>126832069
>was

shotgun change didn't affect tornado shot whatsoever though

do you know what shotgunning is
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>>126832069
tornado shot still shotguns you know that right?

it was/is a different kind of shotgunning
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>>126810260
>making fun of another for their exp bar moving forward whilst yours is moving backwards
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What is the best single target skill for melee? Heavy strike knocback is so annoying. I'm torn between Molten Strike or Double Strike.
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what the motherfuck. I cannot for the life of me get any t4 maps to drop. is my rng dogshit or is this intended?
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>>126832069
Tornado shot has a built-in 'shotgun' effect nigger, tons of other skills don't.


At the end of TS there's 3 subprojectiles, if you use it with multiple projectiles, one subprojectile from each main projectile can hit the target = shotgun
Stuff like Freezing Pulse no longer has shotgun because you can only be hit once - and freezing pulse was a popular fairly modest build.
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>>126832340
cyclone
just like AoE
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>>126832184
>post once in the morning
>hardcucks are so triggered they still respond after a whole day
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Is it even a good idea to go Mind Over Matter + Zealot's Oath + Eldritch Battery? I'm pretty new and I'm not sure I understand how all of these function together mechanically.
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reminder all melee skills should have splash damage built in

reminder all projectile spells should have either chain, fork, or multiproj built in
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is it better to id rings ammys or save for the recipe?
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>>126832495
they do work
some people use that combination, it's especially used for SWT builds
it allows you to reserve all of your mana
however, you need a good ES pool not to run dry
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>join the guild
>it's full of finns and other unsavory mongoloids
>they're all stupid and greedy
>they all hate americans due to media brainwashing
>mfw i'm an american
>mfw my country is relevant
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why is there no standard talisman guild :(
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>>126832696
[clapping intensifies]
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>>126832415
baited for this exact reply
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>>126832495

only if you think wasting 10+ points in regen and travel nodes and making your ES absorb 70% less damage is worth not using a blood magic gem (it is in some cases since there's so many broken +more gems now)
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Did a streamer or something promote PoE recently?

Twitch viewership seems to have doubled compared to the last 2 or 3 leagues.

Have you guys been lying about my game dying?
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>>126832696
>not just using the secret discord chat

lmao kid
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>>126833243
this is a good patch and talisman is a fun league
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>>126833243
new league and race for 100 always has people interested

see what the viewership looks like in two weeks
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>>126833243

the Asscendancy announcement created some hype

but its all bait and switch since Ass paid league will be streamer and support only again, and the rabble wont get to play it until 2018
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>>126833414
Even the start of the leagues would only grab about 3K in the past.

These leagues are around the dying point and its at 4.4K on a Wednesday at 3pm
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>>126833529
dawg i saw beyond league with 10k one time
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Fun game, but I finally had the will to quit.

I literally can't get past t9 maps, I wish I could so I could have fun with the game, but nope, stuck fullclearing fucking 111q 30 packsize t9 maps and getting no drops.

Is there some trick to getting red maps? Any advice? Because I don't understand it.
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>>126833529
etup was averaging like 3-4k viewers a day for 2 weeks in tempest when he was pushing 100

nugi came back and ziggy has been streaming too

no surprise numbers are up
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>>126832696
Let the buttmad wash over you. Let it sustain you like it does so many of us. The buttmad gives us strength and reaffirms our dominance in the world.

;) stay buttmad faggots ;)
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>>126833243
theres always more viewership when you combine these two things: within a month of new league, when yurop and murika play time intersects

i'm already seeing popular streamers play less and viewership has already rapidly declined
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how is this even possible?
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>>126833643

im in the same place but im not quittin yet

its really shitty that PoE sees it fit to be only game that gates leveling areas behind rng, in effect reversing your progress if you get unlucky. forcing you to use currency just to be able to level

but eh
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Should I bother going from 6750 life EK with 40k physical +25k poison dps to 6000 life but with 40k physical + 50k chaos dps with 2 ming's heart?

Doesn't seem worth it for your average mindless mapping despite the huge damage buff, only seems to be worth doing when I stop at 95/96 and start fighting tier 15 daresso, double kaom, avatar of thunder, 80 rigvald etc to finish off my achieves.
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Thinking of running groundslam for the first time in a few years. Is kongor's still the go to weapon until you can grab a solid rare maul?
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>>126834362
i dont believe its a fair trade

thats more than 10% health you are losing
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>ED/Corruption
I AM BECOME AIDS, DESTROYER OF DRIED LAKE
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>>126834582

I also go from -60 chaos res to i think 70% chaos res?

though who the fuck does chaos damage endgame anyway kek.
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>>126834586
>chaos cuck

what's your skill links
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>>126834681
ur gonna walk into sneks and git rekt
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>need another tier 2 talisman to go to tier 3
>get 5 of the same kind

ebin
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>>126832992
>regen

just get a vaal clarity
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>>126834816
ED, Void Manip, Poison, Controlled Destro, Empower, Rapid Decay (+1 skills tabula)
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>>126835019
tier 3 is awful anyways
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>>126834046
what?
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>>126835131
>tabula rasa

cuck indeed
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>>126834319
Honestly? Just quit.

You'll have a breaking point eventually, like going from 8 t8 maps and 9 t9 maps to 0 of both with literally no t10 drops.

Quit now and save yourself the time, seriously. You're gonna eventually. You'll regret not doing it earlier..

Oh, and those t8/t9s? Alched and chiseled.
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>>126834362
can you survive maps reliably with 6k hp

why would dropping life for damage be worth it for high content where strong defenses are even more necessary
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>>126834046
The undiscovered area is the library, not the hedge maze.
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>>126836107
not that guy but in my experience you can do fine with 6k like up into t12, given you have 3+ defense layers to back you up

some bosses and combinations of map mods will be out of question tho

>>126835961

the fucked up part is i know i can build a decent t9-t10 base again if i just run A LOT of low tier maps again. and thats is why it feels jarring and almost like negative progress
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DOES ANYONE HAVE A UNID FAMINEBIND IN HC TALISMAN? I WILL PAY WELL FOR IT

THIS IS IMPORTANT
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>>126836747
yh 5ex
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>>126835131
>poison
>on ED

KEK
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friendly reminder to show your girl friend some love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dFtWl5eD88
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>>126836747
>>126836747
>only unID faminebind in hc is listed 2ex

lol@u
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>>126836747
IM DONE

IM SO FUCKING DONE
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does anybody grp up anymore? cant find any map grps, split runs etc.
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>>126837394
I'm proud of you anon. Good job.
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>>126837478
just join a guild
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>>126816479
how would you set it up then?

also, poebuilder works better for me then the one on the actual site
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>>126837765
read the op

also i don't know what you mean by set it up as your build has no it just a variety of spells with some almost random support gems

what skill do you want to use to clear packs
flameblast or stormcall?
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>>126838028
I wanted an AoE skill and I've hated everything I've used so far. It was originally going to be Flameblast but I don't like the skill much. I really like Storm Call but it seems bad casting it on my own.

I've never made my own build in this game, I've only copied shit.
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are you retarded?
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Hey /poeg/

I played most leagues to around 60-70 (HC) and I'm coming back for Talisman. Anyone running/boosting atm?
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>>126838456
yes
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>>126837765
>>126838028
>>126838293

oh i just looked at your tree now and it's filthy. would need to respec maybe half your point but I'm not sure until you know what you want to do more then flameblast with addedcold, herald of thunder and stormcall totem
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>>126810680
>spell totem

>good

lmao
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>people actually use support gems that DECREASE your damage
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Hey, is there any way to toggle shift so its always on?

I basically play always having my finger on shift right now so I dont move when I attack.
Would be convenient if there was a way to just always have that on.
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>>126838671
>not running skellie totem
>not running wither totem
>not running arc totem for EE purposes
>not running inc totems
>not running EK totems

I'm not saying spell totem is the best, but you can't say it's not good
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>>126838968

tape your shift button down and see what happens
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this video is for you soda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtjBt4Ou9SY
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>>126839168

>4:22

baka
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>>126839037

>spell totems

fuckin idiot lol, RF totems is understandable now that totems can get 12500+ life and you don't endanger yourself.
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>>126838820
like what
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I wanna try hardcore for the first time after getting familiar with the game in talisman SC.
What build would you personally recommend?
I heard trap bladefall is good and safe anyone have a guide I could follow
Thanks to the non elitist willing to help me
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>>126839612
trapbladefall is just for leveling as far as i know
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>>126837783
what makes you think this is worthy of a screenshot
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Power charge generation as phys crit LA

Ass mark CoH with HoI? Or with HoT?

Or some other way?
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>>126838968
>sticky keys
>ahk
>keyboard software
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>>126839880
get a 10% charge on kill talisman f@m
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>>126839995
oh. i'm dumb, i forgot about those
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>>126837604
ty
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>>126839880
>>126839995
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pls invite to hc guild
ign: thedragonreborn
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>hardcucks
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I want to join the HC guild but i want to know if they support and accept LGBT members first.
Non-demi girl here btw
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>>126841397
>literally means cucking somebody/thing else
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:^)
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>>126841620
no sjw's allowed

gtfo
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Nice game
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>>126841718
stop
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>barely any poe porn OC

youd think drawtists would like this game
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>>126841906

?
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>>126841718
nice cropping of everything thats embarrasing
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>>126841898
>3 unique jewels

what a disappointing strongbox now
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>>126841971
>the year of our lord and savior 2015 and still not accepting the superior game
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>>126841971
ranger has a dick? gross boyo
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>tfw almost died to le jumping frog demon
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>>126839612
play something with totems, a noncrit IW totem build can be really safe. Personally I'd go with flame totems, they're not as good as they were specially in early game but once you can use controled destruction they're better than they were. Just keep in mind the build would not have the highest DPS or clear speed but it would be pretty safe
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nice game
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>>126844287
for a second i thought someone had splashed acid on my eyes but then i realized it was just your filter
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>>126844287
What the fuck causes this to happen
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Is this going to be hard?
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>>126844420
you gotta stream

all rares get multiplied
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>>126844461
watch for chaos damage and stand well back.

you should be fine
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>>126844420
hackers can learn to dupe mobs with powerful and little-known commands in the chat box
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Last 20 whispers were for items already sold.
Does anyone use the verify function?
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>>126844852
normies are really really dumb
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>>126844852
I always do, it takes less than 5 seconds but we both know that only retards play this game
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>>126845318
step ur troveposting game up fampai
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>>126844461
Of course not. It's just an ordinary barrel. Ordinary barrel's aren't hard in the least. Go ahead. Open it up.
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>>126844852
This is why the need to put the indexer into the game because it would not need any verifying and online users wouldn't be offline when you whisper them, though they could be AFK still but that's fuckloads better than 3rd party shit.

Interface needs overhaul with trade and competitive features built in.
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Why is blasphemy so expensive? 35% for one curse, need aoe boost most of the time, completely useless on curse immune maps and all that just for a simple quality of life improvement.
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>>126845318
wow i shouldn't have clicked i now have eye cancer
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>go dom merc
>every time someone joins or leaves 0.5 seconds freeze screen
>this wasnt ever the case before
Every time they patch they break more than they fix. Unbelievable/
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>>126845486
is this better
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>>126845770
liked and subscribed d:^D
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there is literally nothing wrong with watching anime
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>>126845698
simple QoL improvements on a game that is both physically and mentally painful to play go a long way
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>>126846085
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>>126846085
i hope you die
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>>126845318
>ilvl 78
FEELS BAD MAN.
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>>126846085
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>>126797381
learn how to fucking play then, it's not hard to save your fucking chaos and buy an ex, and then use that ex to buy a fucking binos.
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>>126837394

FUCKING HOW? Where do you get this fucking RNG? Out of your ass? Out of your supporter pack? Your mother that i banged last night? WHERE?!
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>>126846841
i had to pay over 20ex
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>endgame 80-82 bosses only have 15-22 chaos resistance

Seems legit broseph.
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>>126846841
he's a streamer :^)
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>>126846985

Ok, where the hell did you get 20ex? They sure as hell did not drop.

>>126847014

Ha.
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Infernal Mantle Consuming Dark Firestorm Poison Trap
Thoughts?
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>>126847417
>infernal mantle
>ever
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>>126847417
>trap

why
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>>126847004
Which is how it should be. Contrary to elem builds, chaos builds can't lower mobs's res waaay below 0.

Double curse + penetration gem that's like minus 120 elem res.
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>>126847417
>poison

why
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>>126847417
>firestorm
why
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>>126847513
>Combined total of >100% more damage
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahes6HZ8hHU

>>126847493
It's a good unique. Or are you one of those: Flame Totem Infernal mantle is pur ecancer, reeeeee
Faggots?
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>>126844243
Can you do tanky shockwave totems with nice clearspeed?
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>controlled destruction gives crit builds more damage (tooltip dps) than increased crit damage gem

i think icd needs a buff
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>>126847413
i farmed for two weeks and didn't spend any ex

i also got pretty lucky with drops
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>>126847865
Tooltip doesn't take into account crits does it?
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>>126848040
crit chance, yeah
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>>126848040
it does

increased critical strikes gem will increase tooltip
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>>126848040
Tooltip does account for crit, but guaranteed extra damage impacts tooltip more than "potential" damage, I.E. crit does.
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>>126847643
>>126847735
>not knowing about the poison+firestorm combo

scrubs
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>>126848212
>>126848292
literally a shit version of poison bladefall
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>>126847761
not sure how tanky can you get but you'll have to sacrifice clearspeed
I'm not sure how shit noncrit SWT are
I did an hybrid crit SWT build in thc that had 5.5K life and 3.5K ES and died at 87 due to a quick sub phys volatile golem that rolled over me and then exploded
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>>126848292
Literally worse than using Flammability + Fire Pen.

Chaos resistance can't go below 0% nerd. also

>taking more than 2 seconds to kill anything

A poison tick literally does 1% damage every 0.1 second, compare that to Firestorms actual dps idiot, which hits at 100% damage every 0.1 second on average
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>>126848664
what about that wanky empires grasp build for swt?
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>>126848721
>relying on curses for damage

chaos builds basically have built-in pen since mobs naturally lack chaos res, plus they get to run another damage link in lieu of pen
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>mfw trap bf is the memebuild this league
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>>126848886
they kinda killed it when they reduced SWT knockback chance from 100% to 25%
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>>126848886
crit swt clears so quickly there would be no point in empires grasp
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>>126848907
>chaos builds basically have built-in pen since mobs naturally lack chaos res,

Untrue, All map bosses have chaos resistance. And ALL humanoid mobs have natural chaos resistances as implicits to their affixes, similar to how leapers gain the implicit Leap, or how Devourers gain implicit Burrow.

>in lieu of pen
Having a penetration gem isn't a downside, penetration results in MORE damage in every scenario, a 40% pen gem against a 0 res mob is 40% more damage, a 40% pen gem against a 75% resistant mob is 250%+ more damage.
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>>126847742
Poison is going to be nerfed so hard

>>126848431
>less hit per sec
>physical dmg instead of chaos
>shit version

scruuuuub

>>126848721
>Literally worse than using Flammability + Fire Pen.

Pppffpfpffhahahaha
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>All this shitting on Firestorm Poison
Maybe, just maybe, you should try it.
Cause being able to melt Atziri almost instantly in 3 traps is exceptionally satisfying.
Then you just do her split phase 3 times and you're done in <30 seconds.
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>>126849086
map bosses generally have chaos resistance but not to the same degree that they have ele res

i highly doubt monsters have 75% chaos res in normal situations but would not be surprised if map bosses had 75% ele resists

not to mention resist map mods
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>>126846543
the chances of you ever getting enough currency within 400 hours of gameplay is zero
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>>126849436
>can't make 1ex in 400 hours

what?

even a beginner can get a lucky drop

if you play for that long you're almost guaranteed to find one or two items worth 20c at worst
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>>126849220
a level 20 flammability, and level 20 fire penetration penetrates 81% resistances, that's excluding the 5% fire pen available on the tree.

>>126849267
There's a thing called math, SRS did Atziri in 0.5 seconds and did her split phases before any stormcalls came down, in fact, the animation for storm call would play but deal no damage.

>>126849301
Atziri literally only has 30% all res and 15% chaos res, I don't think they have 75% like people are led to believe but I doa gree with your point that monsters are probably not at all close to chaos capped.
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>>126847417
>Consuming dark
why
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>>126849220

>ive no actual arguments so ill call people scrubs and mash they keyboard

i see. it was good b8 btw
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>>126847513
>>126847643
>>126847735
>>126849648
Surprised you didn't say why to the Infernal Mantle.

How about this: Ancestral Bond dual Ranged Attack Totem Blast Rain with a Ranger start.
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>>126849608
>level 20 flammability, and level 20 fire
Completely unrelated and irrelevant to the power of the chaos firestorm+poison combo
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all my stashes are full...
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>>126849857
>travel from florida to washington to get the keystone you need for your build

i think there might be some efficiency issues with this build
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>>126849836
>I'm so retarded I can't even figure out such obvious synergies

Fuck off, people are raping atziri on hc at lvl 65 with this shit, get out of your cave.
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>>126849648

im guessing cus its easy to poison and "prolif" poison but ele prolif is pretty shit
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>be deathpriestspark
>try to charge 2c per 15 mins of dried lake farm

i haven't seen anyone actually in one his parties
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>>126850313
wow 2k dot prolif sogood
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>>126850452
you actually asked him how much?

i thought about just joining his party and killin stuff till he kicked me
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>>126849975
You can make something like 25 characters. Use them as storage mules if you don't want to buy stash tabs.
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>>126850621
he had the price in the party name at one point

also, for you to join and leech, he'd actually have to leave town and farm dried lake. which he doesn't
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>>126850452
I bet he still gets close to 50m/hr off of dried lake. Damn, maybe I should just RMT some exalts and respec into it.
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>>126850870
What's the build for Vaal Spark anyways? Build enabling items?
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>>126849598
>skillful lucky drops
nope
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>>126850870
I use to get 50m/hr at 82 with a garbage essence drain 4 links build. You don't need vaal spark for that.
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>>126851014
are you retarded
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rate my fire "literally 272%" ball iron will build
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEAxthYYz38jM_2SF8_FCAaPu8O8i98uFBHKS7xrFcN2WHSIa2NGS7yQc9-J-2CB3asBg7E9tl81HzGrq-nFHEJ9gthPC0czg48r2yDzCtQOlLfv2jytz4Nzbyf20_wH_4K_lQYkfxL4MOiAPJF2L0UTSW8BLM64TWSwGamV_6PPAVN45_f73yaO-08gpvVpuw45CI62BpsJy-drjbpkFWnCAN1JKoaOOvukSsWb1nzfINYd-Nqcg8RLV8EcYUsnPMReuYQWLFCY_2HZUbXr7cyNB8CBAeD21XGOlismPFsNthJGyqN7FU=
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>>126851279
are you lucky?
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>>126851304
Massively sub-par clearing power and no jewels/10.
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>>126851524
you don't need to be lucky to get 1ex off drops in 400 hours of play
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>>126851304
What's the point?
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>>126851014
>>126851589
yeah mayne just sell those armors with 50life double res on uuh
your shop yeah do that
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>>126851679
memes
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>>126851718
are you actually retarded
>>
How come Herald of Thunder doesn't work with curse on hit with dual totems?
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>>126851814
darksydememes
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>>126851865
because umm
people like you

don't understand simple game mechanics.
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>>126851884
When the fuck did Phil ever play Path of Exile?
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>>126852004
why is he drinking blood
why is he bloody
>>126852014
why is he mad
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>>126851304
>>126851793
use the jewel or there is no point in fireball

i didn't even look at your tree
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>>126851718
You're dumb as shit with 400 hours I could literally make a dozen ex just vendoring rares
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>>126851718

>poors
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>>126852658
>only 12 ex with 400 hours played
come on anon, you can do better.
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>>126852658
>I could literally make a dozen Ex just vendoring rares.
No, you couldn't. You could make a veritable mountain of C, Regal, Alt, Trans, and Aug orbs. You can't make a single Ex vendoring rares. You need to trade up and out to do that.
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>semantics are back
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>tfw 3 beyond boss spawn in my map
time to reroll...
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>>126851679
>>126851679
>yeah man, whats the point in not running Vaal Spark lmao its important to farm currency for a league that offers literally nothing worth buying
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How's the DoT on the burning ground from the pitch of darkness jewel? If the damage is enough to clear trash effectively I might be running crit pierce burning arrow pretty soon.
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>>126852989
That's a lot of boobs for a Super Chaos Orb deity.
Also,
>5 sets of arms for 3 full heads
>3 sets of legs despite 5 sets of arms
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>>126852989
>he cant face tank abaxoth
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>>126852658
ofc you could with your epic meme build this late into the league wow ur bad
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>do atziri on my very tanky 90 char past temp league
>feels risky as hell, and not worth it at all for the same reason


>do atziri now on a fotm bladefall/bv coc yolo build at 73
>ez

why is this allowed?
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>>126853105
The point in not running Vaal Spark would be budget and gameplay.

That's completely unrelated to my original comment though.
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>>126852989
>tfw you play essence drain and can kill beyond uniques without any trouble

Killing bosses has never been easier.
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>>126794792
>cyclone
>glasscannon

brb 9k life 70k tooltip cyclone
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>>126854461
>yolo build

:D
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>>126854983
?

any build that is not prioritizing defenses is a yolo build imo
>>
pm me at vowel if you want in the standard guild.
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Do you guys pick up white ilvl 75+ jewelry/belts?

Are they worth transmuting -> auging -> regaling?
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>tfw 94k meme pulse tooltip
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>>126855974
why wouldnt you just alch it
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>>126856364
cause hes trying to craft something useful?

either way i dont think its worth it when poe.trade is right there
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which is cheapest, caustic arrow, bladefall, or ed/cont?
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>>126856674
memes
>>
>>126856674
all of them are pretty cheap
none of them need specific uniques to make them work

6link +3 bow is probably the most expensive to find
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>>126854534
>would be budget and gameplay
So maybe he likes Fireball? Ever thought about it?
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>solos hard maps all the way to 93
>"isnt fb shit"
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>>126856891
apreciate it.
>>
Is there a guild in the normal talisman league?

Also if stuff moves at the end of a league - how do stashes transfer? What happens if they're full and shit?
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>>126856958
>playing video games for fun
LOL
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>>126857514
whisper no one, unless you want to join the standard guild.

stashes transfer as remove only tabs, just wait, you don't lose your precious items.
including the shit

>>126857365
glad to have you back shit poster of feline traits
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>>126847534

>what is boss innate resistance and 70% curse resistance?
>curses ONLY ONLY ONLY ONLY increase elemental damage, never chaos

stupid shit arguement pham.
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>>126856097

>tfw you only do 22k actual dps
>tfw you do maybe 10k actual dps unless you're facehugging

always warms my heart seeing elemental shitlords talk about their tooltip.

>b-b-b-b-but muh curses(that's only 1/3rd effect and obviously only increases elemental dps and not physical or chaos).
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>>126857840
bosses up to level 80 don't even have 50% resistances you shitter.

atziri has 30% fire/cold/light at level 70, and shrine piety only has 45%. with 22% chaos resistance

Core malachai only has 30% fire/cold/light res as well.
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>>126858087
Yes, and?
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>>126858078
>tfw when you used pyre and converted all cold to fire
>tfw when you consuming dark and infernal mantle
>tfw shooting super chaos pulses everywhere

:^)
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When is the next batch of bans going to come cleanse the heretics?
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>>126859102
>conversion meme
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>>126859420
>speechless because he was dead wrong

:^)
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>>126859229
I'm going to probably shoot the idea to Chris when I get off of holiday in a couple of days.
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>>126859229
ill just make a new acc, i can bot it back in a day
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Is this a trash drop? 2 within 30 minutes.
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Why do faggots keep doing this?
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>>126859770
>having a standard shop
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>>126859770
For the same reason they ask
>offer?
and then refuse to respond as soon as you told them what youre willing to pay. They dont even realize that there might be room for negotiations. They just stop responding because youre 1% off from what they want. Trading is such a chore in this game.
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>>126859770
I don't see the problem desu mate
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>>126859954
I heard RIPs go to standard, did you know this?
Standard is useful for testing builds and whatnot. I don't list any items under 20-30c
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>>126859708
what do you think retard? like do we have to spoonfeed everything to you dumb fucking newfags jesus fucking christ how stupid can you be. look at the fucking stats. seriously though you need to get the fuck out im tired of dumb ass retards like you who need to be spoonfed everything i bet 100 fucking bucks you're a dumb euroshit
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>>126859770
>still playing EA
>>
>>126860070
I wish this game had an open marketplace like other MMOs where you just put shit up and you can see the price of every other trash people see in-game.

Not having any infrastructure for in-game trading/marketing just makes shit unwieldy as fuck and difficult to get into.
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>>126860132
shitplebs aren't worthy of you're're'r'ere rip'd HC gear
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>>126860070
Yeah, the "Offer guy" is wouldn't be saying "offer" if he didn't know what he wanted. He's just hoping someone overbids and will agree, any reasonable actual offer that's equal to the market value won't be accepted.
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>>126860258
I don't see what's wrong playing EA, having pretty fun. I wanted to play a bow character this league, but played LA/SA/TS already multiple times so it came down to EA.
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>>126860229
Maybe I should have rephrased my question, I wanted to know if its "that one item" that has one of the highest drop chances of all the uniques but its hot garbage.
How about stop being such an autistic sperg over something you could have simply ignored, maybe thats why this fucking general is so small compared to most.

>i bet 100 fucking bucks you're a dumb euroshit

Im no euroshit, but being euroshit is better than being an americuck. fucking retard. wheres my fucking money.
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>>126856958
If he likes fireball, blood magic iron will marauder isn't the way to go.
>>
im about to unironically play a magma orb build in HC talisman

is there anything i should know

i was thinking of using pledge of hands
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>>126861053
Check the op
You see the link for poe.trade?
Use it. Save us the trouble of you offending the autistic shitposters. Nothing good ever comes from it.
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>>126861194
sire of shards and watch things bounce
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>>126860229
>you're a dumb euroshit
Calm down Jamal.
>>
diablo 3
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>>126861296
In all seriousness, will that unique ever be useful? It looks so cool but there no situation in which it's useful
>>
somebody tell neversink to stream in a proper aspect ratio
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>>126861973

BRING BACK

SHOTGUN

Flame totems kinda good for it though.
>>
Somebody tell neversink to suck my johnson
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this guy walks up to you and slaps your favorite build on the ass

what do you do?
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>>126862228
ask him what his favorite build is
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>>126861973
>>126862202
was in a group earlier with a Dual Totem Sire of Shards ball lightning reverse knockback build

It just sucked entire screens inbetween the totems, was pretty handy

abyssal cry was fucking beautiful in that scenario
>>
Is Flameblast shit? It looks fun as fuck
>>
How does the guy who is responsible for the balancing still have a job?
>>
>>126862554
Nobody at ggg made it past cruel
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>>126859495

>only does 2k actual dps cause he wastes his shit on conversion garbage
>>
poeurl.com/u9D

is this a viable tree for HC? for 2h infernal blow marauder
>>
>>126863021
>112 points used

senpai....
>>
>>126862525
Would that really be better than a couple of shockwave totem though?

>>126862532
Yes, it's simply is too slow and limiting. Everything that can't be spammed 10 times a second while covering a whole screen is basically shit.
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>>126863125
112 points is barely pushing 90

are you really that shit
>>
>>126863125
i didn't make it
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>>126863208
>asks if a build is viable
>puts 112 points into it

???
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>>126863137
I don't know if it'd be better than SWT. It's AoE was pretty insane though

It's definitely not a build you do if your pc is shit ... so many balls
>>
>>126863284
what are you even trying to imply retard
>>
>>126863284
he's obviously asking if the tree is fine before he makes the character you fucking mong
>>
Only Canadians, Americucks, and Prison Island people are allowed in this thread.
>>
>>126863450
>>126863349
samefag
>>
hello, haven't played this shit til the beta, should i start again?
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>>126863660
>Prison Island

What about the sheep shaggers?
>>
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>>126863732
heh, ok
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>>126863810
why dont you play the game retard and see if you like it
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>>126863846
dont reply to him
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>>126863660
what about meme flightless bird land?
>>
>mfw people thought dark souls 2 would kill poe
>mfw dark souls 2 doesn't even half half as many players on steam
>mfw steam is dark souls 2 primary online platform
>mfw steam is only a fraction of poe's population
>mfw i'm still giddy about this even tho it's no longer relevant in any way
>>
>>126863898
good point, why are you so angry?
>>
>>126864091
>people thought dark souls 2 would kill poe
why? completely different games, genres, settings, gameplay. they barely bring the same appeal
>>
>>126864096
i don't get angry at literal retards who ask other people to spoonfeed them.
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>>126864091
what does dark souls 2 have to do with poe idiot

are you surprised gta5 didn't kill poe too
>>
>>126864096
My dad just raped me in the poop hole.
>>
>>126863846
nice photoshop nerd
>>
>>126864371
i cant afford photoshop on my ggg shill salary so it was more like 1000 years in paint
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>>126864264
i've actually seen the comparison made several times between poe hardcore and dark souls 2 difficulty althought i wouldn't consider the comparison to be accurate
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>>126864297
it was brought up in this general before its release is why. you're too new to know that. i wish the redditors and newfags would leave already.

>(You)
>>
starting with nothing, correct bladefall 4L:

BF > echo > conc > added fire/faster casting?

no other special things needed and just take phys & spell dmg?
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>>126865132
controlled destruction if you're not going crit
>>
>>126865249
>controlled destruction
so many new gems, didnt even know that existed, ty,
>>
redpill me on flame totem
>>
>>126864091
dark souls is a diablo clone now?
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>>126865439
also try to level void manip and poison too because bladefall poison is pretty stronk
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>>126865441
its a totem that shoots fire
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Lol @ standard players even Chris Wilson stays away from you!

>>126799409
Chances are that you traded with Chris on his alternate account if you were playing hardcore.
>>
Split arrow duelist using blackgleam, avatar of fire and pyre to convert 100% of physical and cold damage to fire

Thoughts?
>>
>>126826443
>hardcucks with /pol/ members
simbly efic
>>
>>126867368
what language is that

>posting reddit screencaps
>>
>>126867368
>Even Chris doesn't bother with Malachai
>>
>>126857365
whats Fb
>>
>>126832538
>current lighting strike with splash
It's already a meme with Bino's.
>>
I finally reached the stage at which I would like the game to drop me a valuable item, even if it was something as worthless as a pure Exalt. I havent felt joy over a drop in forever and its starting to be really noticeable.
>>
>>126867391
go meme yourself.
>>
>>126868443
>even if it was something as worthless as a pure Exalt

the entitlement in this community is insane

baka
>>
>>126868443
buy stash tabs and ur rng go through the roof
>>
>>126868559
An Exalted is worthless compared to a 'valuable item'. What the fuck do you consider valuable? Some trash for 20c? A pure Exalted is a significantly worse drop than a shit ton of other things.
>>
>>126832836
let's make one then

I'll call it

SimplyChaosLeague (because TSC/THC leagues are all about chaos damage today ecks dee)

I'm kidding, I want a meme guild for SC as well.
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>>126868443
tfw i chanced a shav's yesterday
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pm vowel for an invite into the standard guild.
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>>126868772
Might as well opt for a LL build considering how piss cheap Shavs is now.
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What's the most flexible weapon I can buy with 1 exalt that's useful for a lot of builds right now?
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>>126869025
divinarius probably.
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>>126868856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0
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>>126835131
>no slower projectiles
you don't enjoy NES tier of projectile speed? shitter Tbh
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>>126869025
Bino's is 1.5ex
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>>126869025
Bino's
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>>126869182
>>126869276
>>126869330
Looking at the suffixes divinarius looks way more flexible than the other one. And cheaper at that.
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>>126868772

TWO(2)
CLAWS
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>>126869697
they were my highest pdps weapons at the time
moved up to daggers at this point though
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>>126868772
>claws
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>>126868917
>8ex unlinked
>cheap
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>>126869790
>tooltip champion
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>watch ziggyd for a bit before going to the stream i actually wanted cause he's doing some freeze pulse poison shit
>he rolls 5 jewels with life on them

k
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whats a hc viable league starter build

not the most insane deeps or anything just something to coast to maps and start farming to play real builds
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>>126870251
caustic arrow, flame or shockwave totems, bladefall, essence drain contagion

self found easily into low maps
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>>126870251
autist arrow
meme fall
RmT cyclone
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reminder that shitposting about ziggyd, even ironically, makes you a colossal faggot
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>two blessed orbs within 15 minutes

wow thanks for blessing me with shit chris you faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6t47RI4bns
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how are poeg enjoying their glass cannon builds?

I just did my first map on a 4k tooltip deeps blade vortex build, level 70. I got a whopping 2.7k hp, 40-60 resistances and 300 armor and evasion. 500 es on mana, EB/MOM/ZO

it's ~~~~fun~~~~. Nice change from hardcore
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r8 my scion ek mom builds
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>>126871127
thats not a glass cannon, thats like a tube of toilet paper cardboard cylinders taped together firing cotton balls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv4naYCZ2NU

Now this, is a not-so glass cannon



>>126871374
i've never seen anything better than it
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>>126870784
>smartest, funniest, most charismatic player in all of wraeclast


>you're not allowed to like him tho!!!!
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>>126870784
fuck off antifun police

hating real faggots is fine tho
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>>126870251
here's a tree i made for my shockwave build, currently lvl 79 atm. 10k tooltip dps.

Standard dual totems really. Nothing fancy. Most shockwavers are crit and wtich though but whatever. I like marauders.

I use blood magic on all my shit so i can use herald of ice+herald of ash+hatred. If you wanna sustain on mana then drop herald of ice. I just dont like mana pots. Self curse vulnerability.
Bandits were oak oak oak. You can't kill oak as a marauder, that's just wrong! He's a broak.

http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEBxthYYz38xFj2SF8_FCDvDlBH5FFnm64-xq7E9hDMK7aMRviTPC2DzLc-_grYvTWStfJuqmSEBqD5vXKprKpZ858-LdIaOJBVJy9yD2aeWOXDE1oro_ILYa9saPLwH6IABLPAZjwF73yf35o77TzVpkVHMtHr7nyDp5ReXdH9ES2D9x8CBAeD21XGOlhMs5eVUlM9X5f09zLqGPjrdqzPfrvtkc4UcQ48LKdKxPau2XyCB_6PTeOmVzrh8kUxniyc-tIWbySqNunjaoNf891oZdAf7-uUb2ZUHNyPGnwO
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>>126872235
which ways do you path on the tree
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>>126871691
but 4k tooltiip dps for blade vortex is pretty alright.. especially when you got 45 blades spinning!

either way i find blade vortex to be more fun than cock cyclone

but anyway that's a solid build clearing t13 like that
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>>126872219
>suckyd
>not a real faggot
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>>126872535
>you
>not a double faggot
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>>126872363
http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEBxthYYz38xFj2SF8_FCDvDlBH5FFnm64-xq7E9nKprKpZ83IPZp5Y5cMTWiuj8g==

go like this for starters. Then pick the health nodes, endurance charges and totem nodes along the way.

then head down on the far left side to Ironwood, near the blood magic cluster.
again pick health and charges along the way as you need them

then go up to templar and pick that

then i guess it depends on you how you want to go. I choose totemic seal / constituion route first, down by Scion. But if you feel like your totems are fast enough, and you are good on life, go to the witch side

im not all too great at the game but that's how I play my build and it's been working out so far. Haven't gotten to play much but I feel like it's strong & safe.
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>>126872535
you're probably jealous of him and whatever response you got would only prove you're in denial about it

go for a walk you closet faggot before you become one, stop projecting already
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>>126872363
>>126872874
oh and btw try to level with flame totem + pic related until you get shockwave totem from act 3. Then replace the talisman when you get a decent 4 or 5l. I switched at level 55 for a 5l staff. Both white 5l staffs and armours are cheap to pick up, just take what you feel comfy in. 1h+shield is always safe, but staffs can yield som great fire power.
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>Skill gems have damage ranges
>Damage ranges have to be balanced
>Passive tree has hundreds of nodes
>Nodes have to be balanced
>Divination cards have exchange values
>Exchange values have to be balanced
>Maps have drop rates
>Drop rates have to be balanced
>All items have affix ranges and rolls
>All of which have to be balanced

but then...

>Trade doesn't have to be balanced at all. Players can freely rip other players off, RMT, receive unfair handouts, scam and basically circumvent all the effort by the developers to balance the game

If we can all agree to play a game where everything is balanced by the developers, how come we can't play a game where trade is also balanced, by giving all items, affix tiers and rolls a fixed price based on supply and demand?
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i am legitimately mad shittyd ripped off my fucking chaos spear build
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>>126873950
he's running pulse now, makes more sense with Bino's as long as you're not getting fractured or some shit

it would have happened eventually, don't get so triggered
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>>126872535
>suckyd
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how rich are you /poeg/.

don't tell me you actually believe getting a 1-2 discount is jewing. You must become shylock and strike the goys at their closest hearts desires.
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So how strong is poison bladefall this patch? Is it powerful enough to still clear somewhat decent when you go full retard with regen on a CI build?

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMA34rpAkuuGyXZW20ZEVAi9DW5bAunKx1PkyctH76Kf8bviEyzoS8RlsHF-TdCS9AfBAcOSOwY18-Fxe_rHwJd8rcwj_osv0mxNsUrCuha8NVcQBXXi3rYJBEvJohJUVS9hq4Bb6cI62MV7VZj4vedruvutUiWi4RIGmya4BzcdoLUQtW5XGv3wUWduJOPGsgMhG_DbVNSKPpXyYLHN4MNfPnopuvqukGHaHQspjQKtz7aYjdmg8yUoDwtxq6DXwthrj4MX69sZ5scp2jy5FFTpXwOm1inVTH7W6B_418_9kjEWIfLp5sYVg==

Grabbed a 4% regen 70% damage greatwolf earlier today. Kind of want to have some fun with it. I figure I can hit 15, nearly 16% regen without too much of a problem now.
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>>126867368
>that cancer font

jesus christ I can't deal with this shit
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>>126874250
>Regen CI

Why not Leech?

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMA34rpAkuuGyXZW20ZEVCX9CL0NblSU2wLpysdT5eVPV-TJ0yzvop_xu-IQkuus9AfBAehL8rTEZb5N4XFQZbv6x8CtAwOSAce18_fvgVC0PU2xeq6XfKVLkmxLJyLejQKDXwqCysK8NUBbzdmV8lwUhEvj_pJUeL3LKY3g4nT62PsGFxAhEim65DWjDa1SCy_VL1ca9RCFdcV7cNthG-GrpaLdf1WY9W5Fr8PqySLwzqbtSo4hMXr9WSd8h25k8MJIG5QMNte0NBfag==
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>>126869862
No way. I saw a 6L Shavs being sold on THC earlier today. If you buy an unlinked one for 8EX then youre fucking retarded and overpay by fucking 3EX+
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threshold jewels are fucking dumb. you have spend so many extra points and essentially sacrifice a health node to make them work, and most of them don't seem to do that much.

that being said, I'm having fun with rolling flames at least. I wish skeleton mages actually fucking worked.
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what a waste
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Just got this after turning in a few The Body sets.

What do I do
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>>126875157
vendor it
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>>126875157
wear with rat's nest

become alliance
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>>126874605
>Why not Leech?
Because 16% regen anon. I want to meme it up with the best of them.
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>>126874978
it's a fair item with a balanced downside
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>>126875376
But your tree was garbage
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>>126874723
rolling is very nice
2bad you're not gonna find any items to buff that damage of yours unless you had money beforehand
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Ok, bear with me here: Is there a single reason why you wouldnt run Call of the Brotherhood on ANY LIGHTNING caster? All I see is additional defense and not a single downside. Isnt that basically a mandatory item for any lightning caster?
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>>126877380
>downside
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>>126877380
>can't run romiras
no valakos sign
no bereks
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>>126877630

Downside Syndrome is a serious thing, don't mock him.
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>>126877778
A caster. Not some cocksucker who uses trigger gems or mjolner
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>>126877630
>anime
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>>126878035
>cat
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>>126878112
at least cats are real
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>>126878198
anime is real too

real good lol
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>>126878198

so is anime. thats me in the pic
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>>126878035
>catposting against animeposting
You fucked up. Anime and cats are our coping mechanisms, you look no less degenerated.
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Just ripped on my animate weapon character to crit fireballrinos.

What do I roll now?

I'm thinking storm call or snoreclone. Leaning towars storm call since I haven't ever made that before. Ice nova seems interesting too

Already rolled the following:
>memefall
>blade vortex
>lightning arrow
>lightning strike
>ground slam
>SRS
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:^)
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Is there a guide for beginners. I started playing expecting something like Titan Quest or something but I am surprised by the depth of the game and really intrigued by it.
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reminder

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3hpl0l/did_qarl_ggg_help_ventor_manipulate_the_market/
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>>126878779
I'd try shock nova, it seems fun.

Ice nova has always been pretty shit, and storm call is clunky
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>>126878947
check the forums build section

thats the closest thing to a guide for new players
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>>126879093
ooo yeah, I'm gonna do that anon

Thanks guy
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>>126879171
All right thanks. I meant stuff like leagues and laggers and challanges. How do they work?
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>>126878779
>autist arrow
>fire/shock totems
>ebola/contagion
Godspeed, hardcuck.

test test connection problems
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>tfw you really want to use an item but its Fotm now so not only is it more expensive, but also a lot of faggots use it
Sad panda.
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>>126879331

yeah being a faggot is the worst
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>>126879331
>muh special snowflake
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>>126879331
So Binos? What else is new FoTM?
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>>126879601
Thats what the game should be about. At some point people forgot about it and started to copy paste builds instead of trying shit themselves. Quite pitiful if you ask me.
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>>126879316

well there are 2 permanent leagues

standard and hc

however most people like to play temp leagues (think of them as mini-D3 seasons)

which also come in hardcore and standard flavors and have some extra mechanics and shit sprinkled on. the challenges let you win cosmetics

currently the talisman leagues have a thing where some monsters drop talismans, and you can use 5 different of those (as long as they are the same tier) on shrines, to obtain a talisman of the next tier. when you use 5 tier 3 talismans you open a portal to a special boss which drops some nice shit
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>>126879683
Ok that shed some light to some things. I'm currently playing on HC talisman league about to use the rock shrine for the first time. What happens to my character when a temp league ends
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>finally get to a4m
>step into dried lake
>do a pair of runs
>start a third run
>running down
>accidentally namelocked a rare strongbox I couldn't see
>it opens
>magic pack
>can't move out
>try to flame dash
>stunned
>try to log out
>see death screen before logging out
is it time to commit suicide poeg?
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>>126880032
-> perm league

simple

there are leagues that don't move to permanent tho, like ascend I think
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>>126880032
alive hct chars go to perma hc league

if you die, you get moved to perma std league
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>>126879250

ive got a lightning witch that runs shock nova linked to ice bite using three dragons and running blasphemy assassins mark for fuck huge crits and bretty gud bonuses from frenzy and power charges

i also run vaal spark, vaal storm call and vaal arc for maximum fun

i use three dragons and ice bite with bla
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>yo guys, lets give Flame Rush a cooldown after it has been used 3 times in a row
>good idea, we dont want utility flasks to be useless and people just teleport around for nothing
>So, what about Whirling Blade? Has been pretty good since basically forever and basically does what we dont want skills to do. Also can trigger Fortify and give free mitigation?
>Hm, what about it? Seems fine.
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>>126880202
>>126880242
All right guys thank you i guess I will check the builds now.
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>>126875359
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>>126880261
Whirlimg blades used to be crap since it desynced you 80% off the time. Whirling blades is so good atm that it makes swords way better than anything else with melee and with that rigwald axe gives huge clear speed with reave.
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>missing chunk DC after dominus
come on
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>>126880707
>Whirlimg blades used to be crap since it desynced you 80% off the time.
No it didnt. What the fuck do you smoke? When CoC and LL ST were at its peak, Whirling Blades was BY FAR the best movement skill in the game because it desynced you hardly ever compared to shit like QS flasks.

Youre either retarded or never played the game back then. WB has always been brokenly overpowered and got stronger with every fucking patch. Its a broken shit skill that needs to get nerfed. They literally nerf everything else and then overlook should as blatant as this. Its ridiculous.
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>gona hit 94 soon
>not a single item from the identify challenge has been found
>60 more level 80 talismans before I can sell rigvald spots for dosh


ayyy, just 12 more hours to 95 and I can go yolo 100k physical+chaos(poison) EK and just kill shit for achievements and quit this faggot league.
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>>126881392
bro wb was terrible with desync
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>>126881660

yeah i ripped to that a few days ago maybe a week
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What skill would require the absolute least gear/support gem investment to most efficiently run both IIR and IIQ
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>>126883441
summoner ca
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>>126883441
>and IIQ

literally anything softcore scrub
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Should I craft my first 5 link chest?
Are you supposed to buy the currency from the vendor? I have no idea how you are supposed to get 150 fusings.
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wew
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>>126883886
How did you die when you have flame totem? How many ghosts were in that dude?
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>>126883886
>fun has been slain

My sides, thanks anon.
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>>126883806
might be cheaper to just buy a white one on poe.trade
transmute it
alt/augment it
regal it
then multimod it or just roll with it
otherwise i'd just yolo jews/fusings on the item you want linked (ideally you want this to be your end-game chest)
you want to get 6 slots before you attempt to 5 link it
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just died boys what do i roll now
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>>126883806
you roll jewelers for 6socket and then use whets/armours and fus to 5l or a nice 6l
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>>126884247
read the fucking replies, this has been asked several times in the past few hours

fucking hardcucks
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WTB Call of the Brotherhood on Talisman.

Offering 1 exalt.

/w watch_jammku_youtube
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>>126884464

>talisman

ur'r on the wrong site m8
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anyone ever fuck around with montreguls zombies?

is it worth doing?
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>>126883570

speaking of which, why was IIQ removed?
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>>126885270
i know they were cool like a year ago dunno how they are now
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>>126883886
>magma orb

should die irl too retard
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>>126884196
>multimod a 5L
>pay 2ex on a 5L
>multimodding chests at all

what
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>>126883886
there is literally nothing wrong with magma orb
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>>126886140
meant for>>126885893
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wtf happened??
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>>126886587
Bad meme
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>>126886587
I seriously don't get this meme
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>>126886587
i hope you picked up all dat shit
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>>126886587
>1921x1080
Man glad you got that extra pixel
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>>126886587

SPOILER THAT SHIT
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>>126850452
gayboy just bought my perandus for 2c :^)
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>>126887432
you mean 1080 pixels
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how ez is atziri if you have never done her before?
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>>126887927
You need a shit ton of health even if your resists are capped or anything she does will one shot you
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>>126888058

what is a shit ton of health
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>>126888058
i got 7k health and 4k es
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>>126888389
You'll be fine
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>>126888389
how the fuck
I went in with 33##ish and got severely raped with mostly capped resistances
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>>126888417
why dont i trust you
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>>126888731
I only had 3k health when I tried and I got pretty far until I ripped
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what specs use Kaoms Heart these days? Caustic arrow and explosive arrow?
just got one dropped and i wanna use it
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>>126887551
did he rip or something? why's he buying a perandus?
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>>126889172

anything where you can run a 6l not in your chest
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I wish there was more div cards like the lovers that are relatively common and give you a nice small bonus for running certain areas

feels good man
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I am ok with this
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>>126889172
>>126891227
ED Contagion could, SRS. Any staff build, really.

Pledge+Kaoms can let you use pretty much any spell
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I'm browsing Vaal Sparkers for the first time. How did people afford this like 4 days into the league? 5-linked Shav's are still 8ex etc.
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>>126891848
R M T
M
T
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>>126891848
- Get a group, pool all your wealth into one guy.
- Be a streamer, get free hand outs.
- Git gud and have no life, rush to hardcore, sell anything you have that's good for leveling slightly overpriced, buy good items witih your currencies before everything inflates.
- RMT
Last one's most efficient.
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>>126891848
Things don't cost that much at the beginning, loans, and trading like coils for shavs. Also selling maps and shit
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>>126888693
>33##ish HP
>"mostly" capped resistances
That must be bait
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>>126795694
>windows xp

shiggy
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>tfw now shitcrow
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Anyone have a Chill of Corruption or a Sacrificial Harvest I can buy below the poe.trade prices?

/w watch_jammku_youtube
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>>126892538
Well only like lighting resistance was 2 or so below capped, almost 40 chaos too? Fuck off.
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>>126894587
>jammkyprogamehistory.png

who?

also

https://www.reddit.com/r/jammku/top/?sort=top&t=all
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>>126894587
>.png
I never cringed so hard in my life.
Now i'm left wondering if those "pro players" from dota and lol have a resumé like this.
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>>126892192

>RMT
especially if you have vouches

>create buy/sell thread saying that you're American (even though people never get ip flagged based on their country) and overcut the Chinese buy price for ex
>farm like hell and then undercut the Chinese sell price for ex
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>>126895175
>lol players
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Has anyone here had a try a the Goddess Unleashed recipe?
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standard talisman guild where
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Alright guys, I saw this general hanging out on /vg/ for awhile so I decided to check it out.

>shitty graphix
>terrible controls
>shitty quest UI that can't be disabled
>latency issues
>literally no information on how to spend skill points
>no hold key to cast/attack standing still

And the worst shit of them all is that you can't fucking unsocket gems. This is the dumbest fucking shit I ever experienced.

Why the hell would they make it so that you either use shit ass gear you picked up when you first started OR have to relevel another fucking gem you purchased from the vendor.

>2015
>playing this dumpster fire piece of shit game
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>>126897067
0/10
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>>126897067
is this pasta?
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>>126897027
nowhere, shitcrow
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any guild up in hurr

str8 HC naw mean

hit me up senpai so I get dat invite
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give me an invite to the guild prease

fitch_weet
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>>126863137

Way better, balls hit faster and more reliably suck shit in from what i have seen.
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>>126881392

The fuck? Did you even play back then? WB desynced you after like 2 uses. The shit was horrid.
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D
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E
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D
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G
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D E A D
E
A
D
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>HCucks
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Has anyone elses performance gone to shit recently?

A couple days ago the game ran fine, now it struggles to stay above 40 during Malachai
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Bring player shotgunning back, keep monster shotgunning out.
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>>126901761
the technology isn't there
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>>126901230
RMT kills games you stupid mother fucker.

Faggot fuck I hope you get gaped by a gaggle of niggers.
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>>126901832
refactor the fucking code so it can be there.
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>>126902465
>fucks ups prices
>GGG has to spend resources combatting spammers for RMT sites, hacked accounts that are drained to supply said accounts and botters to also fuel said fucking sites

Go fuck yourself cake boy
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>>126902607
>fucks ups prices

don't tell me you actually play standard, also this is completely untrue. I seriously doubt selling your shitty rares and 5L uniques or even 6Ls affects the market that much when there are literally over half a thousand 6L daressos defiance on standard alone.

>>GGG has to spend resources combatting spammers for RMT sites, hacked accounts that are drained to supply said accounts and botters to also fuel said fucking sites

Then don't be retarded? Not like you're buying shit, you're only selling what the fuck are you smoking on about

also

>hacked accounts
Mate, RMTers literally just drop their gear on the ground for people to pick them up, that's how it works. There's nothing at all the risks your account, stop making shit up, it's like you've never RMTed in any other game. People brag about how they RMTed in WoW selling gold or bought gold and even runescape, give it 5 years time and people will brag about how much exalteds they rmted back in the day.

And once again, just so I can give you a chance, how about you show me a modern game with a heavy emphasis on trading whose market is heavily dictated by black market RMTing. You can't, because RMTers are an insanely small drop of water in the huge puddle of traders of any game. See csgo.
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>>126902854
>defends RMT
>mentions CS:GO
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>>126902854
>hardcuck

check

>defends RMT

check

>is a cake boy

check

this is why leagues die folks!
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>>126903227
I only RMT at the end of the league nerdburger. When gear means nothing because of the merge.
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>>126903442
>RMT

>do chargeback

>take item and the money
>person gets cucked

>if you do a normal trade and don't give anything you get caught by GGG's RMT nazi filter and both of you get banned
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>>126897067
>And the worst shit of them all is that you can't fucking unsocket gems
can only be bait but: what is right click
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>>126903536
>using paypal
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>>126903876
is that all RMT cake boy?
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2012 was the pinnacle of poe
poe died after 2012
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fuck ing hell, nothing good ever drops for me.

havent felt like I've made anything for the past few weeks mapping, its shit. why do I even play when I get nothing
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any talisman friends here
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>>126905531
Here. Leveling my coclone
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Can somebody please pot that tier list of builds?
I don't know what to play anymore. Please.
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Marauder>Witch>Templar=Scion>Shadow>Duelist>Shit>Ranger

prove me wrong fuccbois

>STR is the only stat that gives life and a form of damage
>armor >>> everything
>not a chaoscuck no need for energy shields
>armor damage reduction and life > evasion cucks with no life nodes
>access to resolute technique, unwavering stance and blood magic
>tons of life nodes
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>>126907160
str is shit compared to the bonuses dex and int offer
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Can't even call you redditor when they know better. Enjoy your 30h melee fights in cruel.
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>>126907354
>Iron Will
>STR gives life and physical damage % increase

>Dex
>accuracy rating - resolute strikes LMAO
>muh EVASION - highest physical damage resistances cause STR armor

>INT
>mana - blood magic can easily replace, has additional life nodes after taking it, health % regen as a form of mana is also god-tier
>mana shield - chaos damage cucks you with CI or Shavs
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>>126907354

STR = life and dmg, both are awesome unless CI
DEX = eva and acc neither of wich is usefull from dex, eva is something nearly noone uses and acc only usefull for crit builds wich get their acc in flat numbers on gear anyway
INT = ES and mana, es is usefull for CI and a great stat, but the mana part is useless

You even have options for STR to affect ranged attacks and spells with its dmg increasing portion. Its the best stat, but that does not make the others useless. Just str strictly superior.
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>>126907543
>increased melee physical damage
>melee
>increase

and its shit.

>chaos damage cucks you with CI or Shavs

w0t
>>
I'd rather have 80% increased energy shield compared to 80% increased MELEE physical damage, its already piss ass easy to stack increased modifiers on gear and the only things that really matter is defense and stacking more multipliers.

>dex
>str
>ever
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>>126907770
>he doesn't use Iron Will spells

baka desu faggot
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>>126907879
>using an increased multiplier gem

unless you're using repentance, iron will and iron grip are both memes.
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>>126907967
>huge damage increase is a meme

you probably think controlled destruction is a meme too you dip
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>>126907841

You mean you would rather have 80% ES instead of 80% increased dmg and 600~ hp
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>>126908147
Except that its an increased damage multiplier and not a More? It's pretty much in all cases always less damage compared to conventional multipliers. Sometimes equal but probably never more than an actual more gem.

>>126908207
If we're going that way then yes, 80% ES is way more valuable then 600 hp and also

>being melee.
>>
>trying to get to Prisoner's Gate
>keep ending up in endless hordes of skeletons in lower and upper prison and warden's office
>keep thinking i'm going the wrong way
>find a giant guy named Brutus
>he attacks me
>kill him
>ask the chat if I'm going right way
>they all flip their shit saying Brutus is important

Is this just a meme or did I fuck something up?
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>>126908425
>200%+ increased damage is bad
>muh multipliers
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>>126908519
You probably phrased it in a way that suggested that you didn't kill Brutus or some shit. You obviously keep going places and killing everything until there are no places to go or things left to kill. At that point you will be treated to the credits screen, having completed the game.
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>>126908558
>200%

>having 750 strength

lol. nice exaggeration mate
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>>126908814
if you're playing an iron will build, that much strength or more isn't uncommon
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>INTfags and DEXcucks
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>>126909006
Hcucks on monotony watch
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>>126908425

Yes, 80% is probably more valuable than 600 hp.

But is it more valuable than 600 hp AND 80% damage?
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What's up with CoC Chain Barrage w/ the new volley fire gems? I cleared a sewer map at 67 in mostly leveling gear in around 2 minutes, the boss died before i could even read his name fully. There's some really fishy interactions going on here and it's leading to unnaturally high damage- thats coming from someone who has played coc almost every season since invasion.
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>>126909892
Look for video of voltaxic barrage. That shit is even more nuts.
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>faggots arguing about iron will bullshit
>not understanding that strength, by itself, provides THE shittest bonuses
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>>126910006
>worse than DEX

yeah cause evasion and accuracy is something everyone needs
>>
what the fuck is up with this shit game?

took a break and there's been a skill tree reset

HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO REMEMBER HOW MY POINTS WERE DISTRIBUTED?
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>>126910530
Screenshots retard
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>>126910530
>playing permanent leagues
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>>126910530
anon please

use your problem solving skills
>>
>zombies got a little buff, can also slam for aoe

So I'm guessing they're still shit then?

A 21 zombie in a 6 link(emp, min dam, melee phys, added fire, min speed) and 5 minion damage jewels and haste/offering will do about 15k physical dps and 8k fire dps.

I'll have a 40% boosted curse(bosses resist only 20% of it) so mobs take 45% more physical damage and have a 56% temporal chains.

Add in EE and zombies do 24k physical + 13k fire DPS if they had no resistance to begin with. multiply by 10 zombies. Add 3 evangelists for defenses and bonus damage.

Doesn't seem that impressive (will have 5.5k life and 10k armor, summoners barely get hit anyway).

And before you bitch about minion speed gem, go play baseline zombies and then play one with 100% bonus movespeed.

How much does SRS do again? like near a million? granted they prolly aren't as safe.
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>>126911696
i tried googling but GGG has no feature to show your skill tree before the reset

>>126910771
of what? my empty skill tree with 104 points to use
>>
>>126911957

Dps is rarely a good measure.

My flicker strike does like 6k dps unbuffed and clears maps faster than other skills i could use with 20-30k dps or even more.

Zombies are bad and will stay bad because of targeting ai. SRS autotarget all enemies nearby, that alone makes them 10x more usefull than zombies. And now with the enemy ai changes where mobs ignore your summons, the zombies are not even as good of a meatshield anymore.

I almost exclusively played summoners before the ai change, and after the ai change i have not yet touched a summoner.
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>>126912359
The AI changes are fucking retarded.

>>126912128
1/10 you got a reply
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>>126912359
SRS ai change feels retarded as well.
>>
Anyone else playing this game with a shitty pc? Feels awful man, as soon as I see a talisman mob i get freezes and shit same with strongboxes.
>>
>>126913337
Here. Gore cyclone bv frames me as well as firestorm players. Got many problems with strongboxes as well as talisman altars. Some bosses too.
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>>126912915

I can at least understand the logic behind it, the spirits fanning out to attack everything at times makes the clearing faster, but is annoying as well at other times.

The minions being ignored by ai is pants on head retarded tough.
>>
>tfw gonna hit 94 doing only 78-81 maps for talismans
>still maybe halfway

Fuck this shit, ima just go from 6700 life 65k physical DPS to 6000 life and 100k to speed things up, also replacing my eva pot for an atziri to get dat derr extra 15k or so DPS and bonus leech.
>>
whats /vg/ general chat channel?

Is there one?
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>>126913725
thing is, you can have one mob in front of you, and like half of the spirits wander off somewhere else, even if there's no other enemy nearby. So like half of your spirits do jackshit, which, coupled with the damage nerf, just makes it feel you summon all those things for nothing. They AI works probably a bit more efficient on white packs, but even before they tore through them anyways so what's the point.
and don't get me started on Atziri
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>>126913776
5055
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>>126914374
pls no
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>>126914594
Reddit aside, there used to one in like domination or anarchy but it was pretty empty. I think everyone just moved to the guild.
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>>126894587
>famed inventor of the "Roflcopter" meme
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that feel when you can't afford Edge of Madness on scrubcore talisman
that feel when it kills your melee witch dreams
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>>126916821
why would you use edge of madness when you can get a rare weapon with a better chaos damage roll?
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what is a good build for a mace and shield, so I can smite foes with a gauntleted hand
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>>126917184
why is my game fucked

i cant log in
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>>126917354
why did a peasant reply to my post

janitors, seize him!
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>>126917454
its ok dude it let me log on
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Any standard talisman shitters here, feeling lonely.
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>>126917609
i can play with you if you give me a t10 map
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>>126917609
i'm a standard talisman shitter but NA
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>>126917609
Here again. PC is shit and crashed in steam browser but it cooled down by now.
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>>126918006
Frankfurt EU tho.
>>
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>>126918308
>meme barrage
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>>126918308
shit
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>>126918367
>itsplitarrow
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>>126918472
>meme split arrow
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>>126918596
>not being meme split arrow
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>>126918621
>being a meme
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th..thanks chris
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new bread where
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>>126919381
Use quotation marks
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>>126919736
Oh neat. Is this stuff documented anywhere? The wiki just says how to search ilevels.
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>>126919381
>$
>full of flasks and jewels
triggered to be honest
>>
>>126908904
Yeah, and you gimp yourself to reach it by running some meme gloves with +100 STR and some meme boots that give you %increased STR.
>>
How scary will the boss be when I put in t2 talismans? The t1 boss was a little mean
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>>126920186
it spawns a unique boss, a whole lot harder than the rare from t1
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Are most /poeg/ EU?
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>>126921570
>>126921570
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