Path of Exile General - /poeg/

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1st for anime

I-I'm bored... I don't know what to do.

I'm in standard talisman league but from what I hear end-game content is just making money and gearing yourself but I'm poor at level 72 ;_;

Really sucks that you can't really respec without dumping tons of stuff, getting tired of my 1-trick pony.

>>126702056

Anime wins.

Thread is over.

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If your build actually works, how come it doesn't work in HC?

If your build actually works, how come you keep dying all the time?

>>126702281
If your build actually works, how come you log out everytime your life drops below 30%?

If your build actually works, how come you skip all hard content?

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I completed the mission, but you're still a cunt, Zana. How am I going to pick up that 20 trove Primordial Staff pack now?

>>126702420
Are you implying that dying is better than not dying?

>>126702484
If your build is so good you should be able to live through without a logout macro.

>>126702546
Whereas you just die.

>>126702546
wtf

if your build is good a logout macro shouldnt be an option

>>126702281
>>126702420

Neither has to do with builds, both of it has to do with play style and getting good.

If softcucks manage atziri runs in the 60s hc poops can manage it as well, its about how well you play. Layering more defences only broadens the margin of error you can make. IF you play well and don't fuck up and yolo things, you are fine with 160% hp.

As we have seen not even 10k+ ES with max lightning resist will save you from shitty situations you get yourself into.

Thanks for the demonstration and rip in peace h4ns.

>>126702604
And why exactly is this bad?

>hardcucks and their artificial gameplay restrictions

>>126702647
>why is it bad to die in a game that revolves around not dying
are you fucking retarded?

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what do you guys think of my build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv4naYCZ2NU

>>126702717
It revolves around killing monsters, making your character stronger and then taking on harder content. Meanwhile hardcucks are so afraid of dying they grind dried lake to 80 and then play 75 maps with aura/curse whores.

>>126702841
>critiquing other people's strategy for being the first to 100
>meanwhile you can't even make a single successful build that doesn't die
lel

>>126702764

>generic broken build
>high tier gear
>standard

incredible video senpai

>>126702918
There's no strategy, you just have to be an autist that doesn't sleep for several days. There's nearly no skill involved in PoE and only a retard would argue otherwise.

>>126702997
>says the guy who can't make a single successful build that doesn't die in HC
lel

>>126703052
>says the guy who never played content harder than a 75 map
lel

>>126703197
I've played all content in the game on HC my highest is a level 90 because I don't play much.

You?

>>126702997

Ofc there is strategy to hitting lvl 100 in PoE.

Being an autist who does not sleep is just part of the strategy. Not dying, being able to sustain maps, and having a build that clears fast enough are others. Playing in the right group with the right people who have the right builds, and even having a support cast are as well parts of the strategy.

>>126703253
link your character and your uber drop then.


wheres your vinktar vessel?

link your tier 15 map.

I'm sooooooo fucking tired of bladefall and I need to do something else.

So god damn boring. Worst than spooky toss and lame totem.

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>>126703324
This is my highest. I'm not playing this league.

post /deaths

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>>126703447

>>126703447
>being so afraid of dying you don't even play the game
epic, just epic

>>126703505
Afraid of?

>>126703361

Binos poison prolif southbound bear trap.

>no volls devotion to play braindead mjolner
why even live

>>126703575
Yeah I saw that build and it looks dope as fuck but I don't have the funds to buy a bino's unfortunately.

>>126703707

Lvl all the way to 70, and sell every single rare and pick up all currency. By the time you hit 70 if you sell literally all your currency for chaos orbs, you might have enough to buy the binos. Also use the chaos recipe.

The 1-2 ex items are somewhat affordable while still being expensive. But then again that build can level rather well with bladefall trap for aoe before you get binos, or so i heard.

>>126703893

>can level rather well with bladefall trap for aoe

It is quite amazing. You've heard well.

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BRING BACK SHOTGUNNING

PEOPLE ONLY USE SHIT WITH NATURAL AOE BECAUSE GMP/LMP IS FUCKING GARBAGE

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>>126704516
It will never come back.

>>126704516
AOE OVERLAP BRUH

>>126704235

Are you using poison as well? I guess so as you are probably aiming for binos as well?


Also whatever happened with the madmen who tried crafting a demigod belt with 6T1 stats?

>>126704712
uber?

he finished that shit

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>>126704758
Hold up, I'm a liar

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/948484

>>126704758

Oh i have never seen the finished product. Only seen it with 4 T1 mods.

>>126704867
>>126704895

Ah yea, tought so.

Is there any item when crafted perfectly could stand up to what this one is worth? Its literally one of a kind, and probably completely impossible to get another base of this kind.

>>126704712

No, i do not use posion. It is just a pure physical damage trap with big AoE. One can use poison on it, but preferably you would want to slap some elemental damage, like from Hatred, in order to leave shit shattered (if you are crit). Or just use physical+poison with DoT.

The beauty of Bladefall is that it works either way. Very efficiently too.

>>126704591

It will, should there be a way to have private servers.

Heh. PoE without any of that GGG idiocy.

>>126704978

You can use poison with hatred, hatred is an addition not a conversion.

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What the fuck just happened?

>>126705073

I know. I dont have a 5L gear that i need to make a very good Bladefall trap. I actualy use Lightning Trap in combo with it.

But yeah, slap some poison on it, along with added fire damage gem and hatred... Some OP shit right there.

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>>126705160
come on

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hehe

>>126705256
and then he logs out xD

>>126705223
Legit. I'm new to this game. Please no bully.

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>>126705256
Is that TWO bubbling flasks?

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>>126705160
this is the worst meme ggg has created

>>126705256
why the fuck did they just stand there?

>>126705373
ass nigger, there's nothing wrong with bubbling flasks.

>>126705335
No, I didn't desu.
sc babbymad

>>126705373
No.

>>126705503
>SC mirror-tier, legacy items

k

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>>126705256

>>126705553
jesus christ, how do you clear so slow with a legacy kaoms.

>>126705256

Neat, the fireball only hit you for 6k hp, and you were even really close, so their far shot should not have come in effect.

That is some legit nice balancing from GGG.

>>126705503

My shitty budget tapper could do it even faster. TSC here.

Btw, i just made it kinda work actualy. Slapped Thunderfist gloves on, shoved in there Lightning Trap+Multitrap+Trap DMG+Lightning Pen... works like a charm. I think that can be usefull for amy build using lightning attacks too - shrapnel shot, LA, SA with phys to lightning...

Still cannot believe that GGG did not make 3d mesh for Thunderfist or Atziri's Step. Fucking hacks and lazy bastards.

>>126705702

Huh are you saying he has legacy kaoms on that arcer? He is in talisman league tough, you can see it when he opens the map info.

>>126705737
>only hit you for 6k hp
shit man, only?

that would have gaped my character's bootyhole dude.

>>126705838
>6k damage is a lot

armor and evasion wouldnt have saved him.

the only thing useful against large hits is a very high eHP pool.

>>126705805
meanwhile 3 new sets next patch :D

>>126705838

It was sarcasm. At that damage point not much can save you except having a ridiculous hp pool. And that was 1 hit from 1 monster on the screen, any other monster hitting him would kill him.

Oh and lets not forget what would happen if that devo would spawn with an dmg aura.

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>>126705887

I know, they are trying to squeze as much dosh as possible. Cannot blame them, they do need money. That does not mean they should neglect everything else.

I do recall that patch when they finaly introduced 3d for Ice Tomb armor - it was very nice and very very good looking. Makes it a desirable unique for skin transfer.

>>126706023

My unlinked infernal blow does as much damage.

>>126706023
more deeps than I'm doing

what's the point of deeps if there's no fucking standard besides a tooltip - which can be horribly innaccurate if you take into penetration, crits and some skills being bugged or operating differently for the tooltip to know like charge up times.

>>126706023
I hope that's a low level gem. Otherwise that dps is shit.

>>126705160
What area of the game are you in?

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>>126705335
fuck YOU.

>>126706006
>fotm arc
Nigger what? bows and vspark make fun of arc.

>>126706008
It was double crit.

This game isn't fun in hardcore.

>>126706635
How do people find copying the most gnpeneric stat stick baby fixed safety build fun. It's like watching a 5 year old at a playground designed for safety with foam bars and fake grass

>>126706710
Hardcore should just be

>move 30% slower
>deal 30% less damage
>mobs deal 20% less damage

>>126706740
I agree, how can hc players say hc is the true way to play poe when standard captures the visceral gamble that was meant to be an exile in a god forsaken continent

>>126706740
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>126707013
He's playing a generic racer with pleb of hands and kaons hearts as stat sticks. There's nothing intricate or innovative about them. They're not even that strong in terms of clear speed , it's just designed to play the game as though you never left twilight strand in normal. It's boring

Is THC still alive? I thought about playing some more, but ill pass if its already dead or dying.

I think for once im more excited about a D3 season than a new PoE league.

Ascension reveal really killed Talisman for me.

>>126707241
The league is 2 weeks old

So no, the league is already dead

>>126707126
a u t i s m

>>126707465
The double standard created by you guys is amazing.

>>126707126
>I don't like it so you can't like it either.
Well excuse me but i enjoy this build and i've only been playing it since respec at mid 80s. Could you tell me what builds are fun?

>>126707126

>playing efficiently is bad mkay

You can see from his webm that if he would not use kaoms as a "stat stick" he would be dead. Sadly GGG designed their game in such a way that if you want to run the highest level content you need to rely on such items, or some other broken interactions.

>>126707642

That he uses is fun and original, what everyone else uses is lame and uses items you should not use. I bet he would have sperged out if he would have seen any of the good ways of mitigating damage (LC, that cold pot, those ele or phys dmg talismans).

This game isn't fun in hardcore. There's no real ways to mitigate damage in any significant sustainable way. No matter what you do, you can almost always be 1 shot. It's not good. It's not fun. It's a waste of time and effort.

how do we fix poe?!

>>126708140
Remove hardcore is a good approach, add more factors to death that would discourage someone from dying

>>126708280
Followed by completely retuning every enemy and damage source in the game, removing any potential to be onehit unless you have absolutely no mitigation or mediocre ehp.

Remove Whirling Blades.

Put multistrike back onto Leap Slam.

Add a dozen more cold spells.

Remove Cast on Crit.

>>126708140
Delete maps and reintroduce Maelstrom of Chaos
Delete Cruel
Add rewards to A4
In-game shops

>>126708140
poe is fine

>>126708140
Start by explaining devs that its not okay for a small aoe skill to deal as much damage as a huge aoe skill.

Return mapping to 1.2-1.3. Return block nodes on tree to make melee viable again. 1.3 gutted melee to being unplayable. Fortify does not help at all mainly because it adds no damage at all.

How do you find Zana the first time? Is she only in maps?

>>126708905
>he fell for the downside meme

>>126708905

Fortify actually adds a nice chunk of damage, at lvl 20 its 44% phys melee dmg. Considering it not only increases melee dmg by 44% it also reduces incoming dmg by 20% its pretty damn amazing. The problem is the phys part.

If they made fortify wording just melee dmg, then it would be amazing. That is pretty much my only gripe with fortify.

>Ripped to Atziri
I have 0 currency now, give me a build even a retard couldn't fuck up

Would you run Faster Attacks over Multistrike for Lightning Strike with Chain?

I feel like the damage loss of Multi+Chain is too much.

>>126708140
Simple stuff:
Incentivise running few dangerous maps over lots of shitty maps.
Nerf the scion life wheel and redistribute that life through the other life wheels in the tree.
Leagues that people can't opt out of and then whine about.
Some kind of fuzzy targeting for melee skills that need you to click on mobs.

>>126708140

- Remove Cruel/Merc, instead introduce much larger/expansive areas that would actualy mean something lore-wise and game-wise. Plenty of minor bosses with good drop-sets and one-time-one-per-character unique item drop/allocation that makes it desirable to explore the entirety of the area.

TL;DR - make area exploration ver very desirable

- Severely decrease item droprate (99% of items are garbage - gloves/armor/weapons). As a compensation for it, increase droprate of currency in order to stimulate crafting

- Improve craftting by making it possible to have affixes as good as from items that are given as rewards/drops

- More, many many more map areas and a guaranteed map atleast one map drop of same or higher level map.

- A lot more unique maps. Some, if not most can be crafted.
- A lot unique items are craftable, but require base item of specific ilevel, currency, trinket and gems
- Sarn actualy has a normal droprate of items (its a city afterall).
- Crossbows and Spears and Thrown weapon types
- Endless Ledge mode as a partial Substitute for Cruel/Merc
- Award for killing Piety: Divine orb, for Dominus: Exalted, For Malachai: a unique gem that allows two soceted support gems to infer their properties as passives. Onely one drop per char, only one allowed to be used.

- Mirror of Kalandra can be obtained by completing a specific quest (shards of the mirror have to be found on unique bosses (%chance based, 12 shards, 3 pieces of frame - frame pieces a guaranteed drop from Piety/Dominus/Malachain); and is an extremely rare drop (complete item).

- More Masters, no dailies, just continuous missions.

okay, please help a shitter understand damage a little better

i want to make an ele wander, are the few ele nodes at shadow start and templar start including the wand nodes and power charges enough for damage? where do i get crit from, just a good wand or what?

Hey guys.

First char on Hardcore I went trapper. Made it to 41. I found a 5 socket rare es/ev chest and 1 Fuse'd it into 5link. First time I've ever done that. And then I died to the Pizza hut delivery guy doorbell.

Anyway I'm just gonna level a new Exile and go trap+Bladefall since' it's op as fuck

>>126708140

- Unnerf block
- Improve evasion
- Keystone that allows ES to be converted to Armor or Evasion and vice versa
- Keystone for Culling Strike
- Keystone for Armor to be converted to Evasion
- Unnerf Ondar's Guile
- No soft/hard caps; armor penetration, es penetration/overload; hamper (evasion reduction); block chance reduction; elemental penetration to deal with no-cap.

>>126709767
I don't know what you mean by caps, explain?

>>126709567
>ARPG
>Next to no item drops
>Increase currency droprate to where its no longer exciting

Glad youre not working for GGG

>>126709870
>exalt drops
>how exciting, let me put it in my stash and do absolutely nothing with it

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>>126709759

>>126709942
Or I buy gear with it or yolo ex an item.

An exalt drop is very exciting, it sounds like you want the item system of Diablo 3, which is trash.

PoE is a trading game, start out by not deleting that.

>>126709984
Hi, numeta nice chest lmfao too bad you died with it haha such a shame :(

Anyway I loved your story and I would LOVE to read your updates! But where is your subscribe button? I can't seem to find it.

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>the "freeze" on strongboxes isn't a technical freeze but an actual ingame ability

I am so fucking retarded oh my god

>>126710028
i'm not even him, and tbqh his ideas are pretty shit. i'd also like more emphasis on crafting, but just upping the currency drop rates won't fix that

>>126710227

desu its actually both senpai

>>126710332
Yeah but I think what I died to was the ability because I didn't ID the box

>>126709832

Instead of having softcap on block/dodge/resistances of 75% and hardcap of 90% - remove them.

>>126709870

You are misinterpriting what i wrote.

>next to no item drops

No, there are item drops, except less useless shit, so when any item drops, it makes you think "shit, what can i do with it".

>>Increase currency droprate to where its no longer exciting

Ha. When did you get excited for a chaos orb drop? Sufficient amount of currency drop in order to facilitate crafting and barter/exchange betwee players. Ties in nicely to Masters and vendor recipes.

>>126708994
yes

>>126710227

Freeze occurs due to game loading assets that box spawns. Its usualy worse when its a rogue exile.

>>126710028
Trading is absolute garbage. It's at the point were I just buy 10 ex orbs for like 40$ every 3 month league because drops are terrible in this game + haggling for trading is the most annoying thing to do. Rather work 2 hrs and don't have to be arsed anynore spending hours haggling upgrading etc.

>>126711050
By making less useless shit drop you have to reduce droprates or you kill trading completely.

And yes I do still enjoy Fusing+ currency drops, having 5-10 chaos drop a map would kill any kind of enjoyment I get from those drops.

After rereading your post it really sounds like you just want to play D3. While I agree that PoE could learn a few things from D3, theres a lot more than D3 could learn from PoE.

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:^)

>>126706616
That was a channel map.

>>126711234
This is greatly exaggerated unless youre retarded.

I put up items for a buyout and I get the buyout or very close to it.
I buy items with a buyout and I pay the buyout or very close to it.

My average purchase is about 3 messages
My average sale is about 4 messages

Most drops you get are bad, but you get enough 1-5 chaos items while farming to make it not feel hopeless.

Or you can just farm Dried Lake/low-mid tier maps on an MF character and make multiple exalts a day.

Why is the 2.0 passive tree in the OP still????????

>>126709567
>increase droprate of currency in order to stimulate crafting
This is my biggest gripe with this game. Unless you're a streamer or play 12 hours a day, crafting the proper way (alts>regal>exalt) is retardedly expensive. Also, getting a 6L requires a stupid amount of either luck or currency.
99% of players never experience real crafting because it's more optimal to use the currency to buy items on a shitty third party website.
Hell, in my 1k+ hours of playtime I have only dropped 3 exalts myself.

>>126710290
and to elaborate on the crafting part - here's what i'm thinking would make a good incentive for using rarer currencies for crafting and would fit the game well, all that without the need to increase currency drop rates:

think darkshrines, but instead of sacrificing the item it gets a one time "meta mod", similar to what level 8 masters can do. as in you put in an item into the shrine and you can use 1 currency item on it with the "meta mod" active.
these wouldn't be as restricted as master meta mods though, so the better meta mods could be tied to higher map tiers and whatnot.

say you have a good life + dual res chest and you find a shrine which will only allow it to roll resistances. you'd be way more likely to use an exalt in this situation, because you're sure you won't get a fucking life regen or reduced attribute requirements

How do people get 20/20 gems so fast? Do they not use the recipe and just buy a shit load of GCPs? Literally everyone on the first page of the ladder has almost full quality/level gems..

>>126711910
Prior to Masters I would agree with you.

Doing the Alt+Regal+Master Craft gives you a decent item that doesnt cost an arm and a leg to make. You can then toss a couple exalts into it if your feeling lucky. The alternative is to just multimod it, either through a service or yourself.

If you try to craft a weapon this way it gets a lot more expensive, but there are endgame viable uniques for all the weapon types that dont suck ass, and I believe all of them except binos are 1ex or less

>>126711910

Well, you got the gist of it.

This guy >>126711272 did not.

>>126712242
Yes I did, your suggestion is retarded because theres no incentive to trade if you can create good items while playing self-found.

The only thing left would be uniques, and you decided that crafting uniques would be a good idea too.

So I can only assume that the items that would be traded after these changes are top tier uniques like Skyforth, which essentially kills trading and half the game.

>>126712242
No that guy did get it, he's just not a whining shitter playing the wrong game.

>>126712195
They are no lifers. And they used a lot the gcp recipe to make recipes and use them on already levelled gems.

How does Skyforth's stun threshold work? Since it's 500% of mana does that mean you basically can't be stunned?

>>126712195

Buy gcps?

Level with a offhand set of gems, and when your primary hits lvl 20 use the recipe to turn them into 1/20 and swap to the backup 20 gems, till your 1/20 gems catch up in efficiency, or even pick up quality gems and gcp them up.

>>126712195
You buy them from the people who play Vaal Spark.

>>126712552
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Stun

Rip in piss, lv82 caustic arrow shadow. Tier 5 map -> Storm Bearers -> Shoot -> Lag -> all ~8 of them die and explode on me.

CA with an extra dmg source for single target is pretty good though. Would recommend to anyone. Time to level another one.

>tard chore fags

>>126712393

Slippery slope right there.

>>126712436

>Whiny shitter playing the wrong game

Since when offering a suggestion regarding improvement is considered being a whiny shitter? Also, which game would you recommend as "the right one"?

Fuck off retard.

>>126713085
Not him, but I told you that you wanted to play Diablo 3.

Its a game with no trading and frequent crafting item drops that allow you to craft legendaries, its maps drop maps at high frequency. Rifts can be seen as an endless ledge mode, and Kanais cube pretty much fulfills the Malachai reward. Bounties could also be considered the continuous master missions.

You post just screamed Diablo 3 with a PoE setting.

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Should I trade unique items I'm never going to use now or do I wait for the league to be over?

>>126713085
You're whiny because you're complaining about something that is a non-issue.

You're a shitter because you think crafting is out of reach of the average player.

You're playing the wrong game because you obviously don't like loot or trading for it and that's the entire point of the game. I don't know what game you want but it's definitely not this one.

>>126713485
What kind of crafting is done by the average player? Rolling flasks, jewels and using the sash or +1 cold/fire/lightning recipe for leveling? Don't make me laugh.

>>126713340

I have never played diablo 3 to begin with, so i would not know most of the shit you have posted there.

Besides from what i have seen, D3 does not match that requirement. Inflated numbers out of ass, atrocious graphics, terrible itemisation.

Although they way you put it, it seem like i would definetely prefer a mix of PoE with some some aspects (crafting and that cube thing, which can be easily replaced by Masters) from D3. Then again, endless ledge is a dungeon type from PoE racing... so why is it an issue then? So i the end, the right one would be an improved PoE?

Dude, you make no sense whatsoever.

>>126713485

Your post can be easily described by one word: strawman.

>>126708140
Make it flashy and 'stylish' like D3, make gameplay smooth like in D3. Done, best game ever.

>>126713734
I figured you havent played D3 or you would be playing it instead of PoE.

And yeah, PoE could use some things from D3 to make it a better game, only problem is is that you unknowingly picked the things that would turn PoE into a D3 clone.

>>126713734
Masters are average player crafting, you put in average amounts of currency and get average 4-6 mod items.

what is a fun build that's not boring arc, flame totem, whirlwind, bladefall, whirling blades

>remove shotgun
>tons of single projectiles no longer good because damage loss of multiple projectiles

>>126714308
Blast Rain
RF Totems
Lightning Strike with Pierce or Chain
Melee Splash
Siege Ballista

How should I be going about to start gearing my first character?

>>126714141

Not that guy, but

>PoE could use some things from D3 to make it a better game
>picked the things that would turn PoE into a D3 clone

Care to enlighten?

>Masters are average player crafting
>average amounts of currency and get average 4-6 mod items

Say thank you to GGG for making Master crafting average (all they had to do was make better affixes available at cost of many more chaos). Even though it is not. If one wants/needs to have a good item with perfect rolls, one has to unload ungodly ammount of currency and a heap of exalts. Because it can be done, and rich, very rich players do it.

>>126715038
look for life on gear and keep resists at 75 or at least close to.

anything else will be build specific

>>126714308
Lightning Arrow still effectively shotguns.

someone make an ele wander for me

>>126715061
Wait so you want to be able to craft perfect items at the cost of lots of currency because it costs lots of currency to craft perfect items????

>>126715126
I'm having a hard time finding gear I could use that has the sockets I need. Is it better to try and roll those stats onto gear with the sockets you need?

>>126715061
You can follow the conversation to get to his original post.

Whats wrong with master crafting exactly? What you said is exactly how it should be.

If youre rich enough you can make absolutely ridiculous items and perfect your character, if youre not rich you can get an alright alternative that works just fine.

Thats how video games with gear work, you go from Bad->Okay->Good->Above average->Amazing->Godly with each tier requiring more work/money to get to.

>>126715459
Its easier to roll the sockets on gear.

If youve run into Vorici a few times and gotten him to level 4 you can invite him to your hideout for a bench that will give you 4 sockets for 10 Jewelers and a 4 link for 5 fusings.

In the case of a 5-L its usually easier to roll the stats by using Alterations to get Life+Resist and then regaling it and master crafting on either a second or third resist with Haku.

>>126715459
I'm assuming you're still leveling? If that's the case you don't need much gems. I usually just use my main skill with 2-3 support gems depending on what I can find. Probably a single gem or two for my auras but those are easy enough to find, if needed I'll just drop a chrome or two to get a good socket. I don't bother much with the rest, until I reach act 3 merciless when I start looking for end game gear. At this point you just craft the right sockets/links on gear with great stats.

In general it's cheaper to get the right stats and then craft the right gem setup on them. But during leveling there isn't a real rule or law to it, that's something you get a feel for once you understand how much your orbs are worth. For now i'd say don't bother much with your sockets besides a few chromes or maybe a jeweler orb or two on really good leveling items.

>>126708424
>remove coc
>remove wb
>remove fun

>>126716216
>wb is fun

add back shotgun

>>126715227

Your logic is flawed.

>>126715480

>Whats wrong with master crafting exactly? What you said is exactly how it should be.

You want to say that intentionally making Master crafting "average" is how it should be?

Or the fact that vast majority of players will never see an exalt, or two in time necessary to make an upgrade or to take a shot in crafting "amazing->godly" items, before player decides to either reroll or leave.

Rich players are rich because they are either streamers or an organised bunch of no-life/NEETs, which means it is their full time dedication. And all they do is figure out the best build, and use it, since it is be-all-end-all. Any gear necessary for that becomes expensive in order to prevent anyone else getting the opportunity to try it/have it, unless someone gets lucky or scumms ones way to that build.

And all that stems from gating the average player. Why do you think that exalt to chaos ratio spiked from initial 1:30 to 1:50 and then all the way to 1:70, 1:80 (Warbands)? You seem to forget that whole Ventor debacle.

>>126716595
Yes, thats how it should be.

I cant help that the vast majority of players are incapable of trading, you can easily make an exalt in a day and have a job at the same time.

The richest players in other games are also no-lifers, so I dont see how thats any different.

And there are quite a few end game viable builds right now, with a number of them costing less than an exalt to be end game viable.

The Chaos to Exalt prices have spiked so high because of the uselessness of chaos at endgame, which is a completely different discussion.

Im sorry that this game doesnt appeal to the average player, but im glad that GGG doesnt cave into people like you and turn their game into a piece of trash. PoE is the only alright ARPG on the market right now, and as long as we ignore suggestions like yours, it will stay that way.

>>126713469
who's this semen demon

>>126717148
u're mom

>>126716595
>give me everything because I don't want to work for it

No shit an average player isn't going to see exceptional items, and that's how it should be. That way there is always something to work for no matter how much time you waste. That's the whole point, your gear can always become better. Crafting perfect items is hard and should be hard.

Should they make crafting more accessible? sure why not. But time investment is not what bottle necks crafting, it's the intricate affix and pricing system that makes it complicated. Anyone can make enough currency to start crafting and actually profit from it, thing is it's way too hard at first to understand how to do it. What bases to use, what rolls to keep, what currency to slap on it, what to mastercraft and how much their items are actually worth.

>passive skill tree


>it's not a tree at all

you fucks don't know how to design shit

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>>126713469
Please answer?

I have all the free armor mtx, should I buy a lightsaber weapon mtx???????

>>126717348
Do you need currency?

>>126717238
>thing is it's way too hard at first to understand how to do it. What bases to use, what rolls to keep, what currency to slap on it, what to mastercraft and how much their items are actually worth.

Thank you, I had forgotten the insane knowledge barrier this game has for making money.

>>126717348
Just vendor all of them unless they're like 3c+

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>>126717241
it's actually the roots under the tree, ever looked up at a tree through the earth?

>>126717753
Or its a bush

Path of Exile Skill Bush doesnt sound as exciting though

I know how to fix PoE

make combat into danmaku-like where you attack with pretty patterns and dodge them as well

overhaul the passive skill tree so the prettiest builds are the strongest ~

Roommate just got a new SSD, is game load pretty much instantly. I'm fucking jelly.

>>126718409
That would work really well with the PoE engine

>>126718530
Its pretty amazing.

Ive got a friend with a 128gb SSD and he only put Windows on it, refuses to put games on it. I dont understand why you would buy an SSD and not use it.

>league already dead after ~2 weeks
>general worse than ever

what happened to this game

>>126718908
>Thinking the general gets worse

/poeg/ is consistently bad, just like all of the other generals

>>126717128

>are incapable of trading

Is trading the core aspect of the game?

>you can easily make an exalt in a day

Only if you are lucky and spend sufficient amount of time on trading, or flip.

>I dont see how thats any different

Probably shows that something is not exactly right, does it not? It is one thing to have rich players in the game who become rich trough time spent and effort dedicated, it is another thing to have rich players via gating content.

As to yur third point, i agree. Because otherwise very few people would play the game.

Chaos are actualy quite useful, seems like you certainly have not followed the debacle.

And you fifth point doesnt even stand up to scrutiny.

>>126717238

>>give me everything because I don't want to work for it

And another strawman.

Regardless, the average player (not a moron) will figure out whats to what by the time they reach Merc difficulty. At that point, it is the availability of currency that will bottleneck crafting, not time invested (one can play 500 hours flat and not find a single exalt or a divine) unless you mean eternal grind in order to aquire a shot at crafting a good ring, because by that time you will need something else or switch completely to something different, which makes all tat grind possible. Or are you trying to push catch 22? Grind to get currency to craft/buy this ring that you need to grind to craft/buy it?

>>126717583

The "insane knowledge barrier" is only imposed by those already at the top.

Doesnt take much to know that a tri-res ring with high res rolls is already good, or even better if it has decent life/es and IIR.

>>126718908

>what happened to this game

Idiots like >>126717238 and >>126717128 happened. Also, GGG happened and them listening to ribbit too.

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Invite me to the guild please.

IGN:Brauny

>>126702281
They dont, they talecthe softcore idea and make them.more tankier. Some people go at life 8k+ life. I think the SA Scion in the ladder even wears kaoms for more life.

BRs are the worst thing to happen to this game

>>126718674
>putting games on a ssd

>>126719560
Trading is part of the core of the game.

Also youre retarded

>>126719807
>Not wanting to load back into a raid 5-10 seconds faster after a DC and coming back in time to keep the raid alive.

Look at this casual

>>126719560
Here is a logical fallacy for you, you're a fucking self rightous autistic retard and you remind me of projectPT.

The things you asume as facts are blatantly wrong. I do not have the strength or courage to try and argue with a thickheaded semi intellectual like yourself. Feel free to proclaim yourself a victor and use this as evidence that you were right all along. I will find solace in the fact that you do not work for GGG and your opinion does not matter.

>>126719560
I agree with you tbqh f@m

>>126720191
>raiding
wew why don't you play real games mmoscrub

i want to make a CoC wander but im not sure if i can pull it off due to my computer. my rig has a relatively strong graphics [gtx 960] card but a rather weak cpu [phenom II x4 965], so i have to know, is this kind of build going to slow down my cpu with all the damage and positional calculations or is this mostly a gpu related load that causes it what with all the crazy particles

>>126720532

Your drivel is self-defeating. And irony of that drivel is lost on you. There is no victory to be sought over likes of you.

Just ripped my Contagion character. Defense way to low. So, whats next?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3yibar/thc_3232_done_was_a_grueling_experience/

So much for the challenges being hard. Took this nerd a bit over 2 weeks.

>>126718409
> ~

faggot

>>126722558
what am I even supposed to look at? Is it some grand master reward or something?

>>126722796
Its the challenges. People said it will take ages because no one farms Hall of Grandmasters for the card sets and that only like 2-3 people will even be able to get 32/32 due to it.

Apparently they were wrong since the first guy got it in half a month.

>>126723002
I see. Thanks.
I should probably go read what the challenges are, I never pay attention.

>>126721945
Dude I'm playing Mjölner discharge with a gtx260 and a core2duo e8400.

>>126723002
why would you need to farm grandmasters for this

>>126723860
Because you need 10 card sets. And there are only two ways to get them. One is grand masters, the other one a card that only drops in Excavation. Getting 10 of either should take ages.

>>126723985
i am sure it's easier to farm excavation than farm grandmasters

dunno which card has a better drop rate though

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I know this is pretty minor, but god damn does this need work,

>>126724165
>grandmasters
>hard
hld pvp balance is so fucked that you can just get EA and blow the whole grandmasters apart because it ignores every fucking way of defending oneself except frantically running away, which is something the ai doesn't do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kubs_kskAA4

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hi poeg where is the best place to farm corrupted zones?

Why do people sell unidentified Drillnecks for ~20 chaos less than IDed ones, even when the IDed ones aren't that well rolled?

>>126724528
Aquaducts
Docks

>>126724442
>standard league

>>126724442
I didnt realize Hall was so long.

It also looks like EA is strong because of the fucking walls before every pack of exiles.

He seemed to struggle against the enemies at the end of each room.

>>126725198
wall shooting and explosion overlapping is the tactic for pvp, EA has shit single target damage otherwise

>>126724270
It uses Google custom search, so I doubt that will happen.

How come there are no fucking spells which use a mix of Fire+Cold/Fire+Lightning/Cold+Lightning

Everything just uses just one of the three and there are fucking passive branches for split elements and there's literally no use for Avatar of Fire but to bolster your potential flammability with something like Herald of X instead of a mixed skill.

>>126722558
Took a neckbeard with a whole guild supporting him 2 weeks.

This is not a solo thing. Could be that there was account sharing involved as well.

>>126722558
What the fuck does 32/32 stand for.

>>126726289
nigger you can't be this retarded

>>126725987
why would there be any account sharing? all the hard challenges are behind a currency wall.

>>126726480
zana lvl 8

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ranggarn is a noob i pwn3d his mum irl in bed multiple times

all my 78s bricked and i havent found a map above 76 in over an hour

Gonna start running maps for the first time. What items are worth picking up?

>>126726562
>play during reset hour
>your whole guild lets you in on their zana daily

why would someone else need to play on his account??? It's like a 1 hour ordeal at most.

>>126726667
nvm lol just got some drops

like and subscribe

>>126726842
unid rings, belts, amulets for chaos recipe. everything else is plentiful enough.

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>log on to twitch and start streaming to no one just to test what some anon said about streamer rng
>run a shitty t7 map with no remarkable mods on it, the only unusual shit on it was ele weakness+vuln both of which i try not to run together but its a t7 so who cares
>get drops on pic

wft? is this streamer rng shit actually true? i got more decent maps here than on my last 3 100%+ quant t10 maps together

>>126727228
are any whites worth picking up?

>>126726842
Set up an item filter and pick up everything that shows up except non-chromatic whites. Whites are for rich people. Google the chaos orb vendor recipe, the GCP vendor recipe and the GBB vendor recipe and try to stock up for those.

>>126727541

You actually tought the streamer rng is just a joke?

Cmon m8, GGG is so afraid of what people see on streams they refuse to add low quality graphics options so people dont see shitty screenshots or videos of the game, you honestly dont think they add a boost to drops when people are streaming?

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post loot

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This build is great, im not even trying.

>>126727767
>keeping wisdom shards in your stash
triggered

>>126727767
nice rmt

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How do I find more rare unidentified rings, belts and necklaces? I can't complete several chaos recipes because they cause a bottleneck.

sure is reddit in here

>>126727985
Just grab whites and alch some.

>>126727852
>>126727925

post your're fucking loot nerds

>>126727985
Run graveyard maps. Other than that, suck it up buttercup.

>>126728032
this

we need a new place and don't tell that faggot hanz about it this time

>>126728062
>Not doing the unid recipe for double profit

>>126727582
Agate amulets and leather belts because people buy then to chance volls devotion/headhunter using zana

In top tier maps gold bases like harbingers are worth quite a bit too

>just sold a 430es shield with a 22% cold res roll for 60 chaos
I dont even know if I got screwed or if he screwed me.

What does a good wand look like? As a melee character I'm incapable of telling a 10ex wand apart from a garbo wand.

>>126728690
high crit and high phys or ele damage
wanders use 1.5 aps base wands

>>126728491
did it have 2 affixes open?

>>126728690
Learn what t1 rolls are and you can more or less ballpark any item.

>>126728690
Yes. Havent played in ages, what sort of meme craft options did I miss?

>>126728690
an expensive caster wand would have 120%+ total spell damage and 15%+ casting speed, at least

expensive wander wand would have 10+ crit, and something around 190 to 255 dps (either mostly ele or mostly phys)

>>126728987
Meant for >>126728806

>>126728690
mind you, if you are in HC, you can still sell most mid-tier drop you find for some C's at least

in sc, people look more for the bestest gear

i wanna buy a twyzel, should i just buy the highest pdps or look for something else on it?

>>126729107
if it were 3 t1 rolls he can easily throw an exalt on it, im not sure how easy shields are to roll though. sounds fair to me even if it can be crafted in something amazing

>>126729318
They're cheap. Grab one with a near perfect crit and phys roll.

>>126729471
the attack speed doesn't matter?

>tfw having to run through the acts three times again is the only thing keeping you from enjoying this game

>>126729437
Well, it was a shit base (Thorium) so I dont know, would want to throw Exalted into a shield with a 22% cold res roll but that might just be me. Where two t2 rolls. Just felt kinda weird because he whispered me with an offer than 1 week ago people laughed at me for even asking for.

>>126729647
I hope after ascendancy they introduce a new act or whatever and finally drop cruel at least

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>lvl93
>have 28 residences

>>126729760
At the very least you did not get ripped off. So don't sweat it.

>>126730080
why not do them??????????

>put 4 worthless Lightning spell damage staves into the game
>instead of combining them to one, actually useful unique, they turn into a fucking meme maps with the most boring map layout ever
I seriously start to believe that they fired the guy who used to design uniques and gave the job to some mentally handicapped high school dropout.

>>126730517

Ussually they give it to someone with connections. Like a devs nephew or son.

>>126730485
because it's a shit map

>>126730517
>a staff with free lightning pen and +5 to max lightning res
>bad

???????????????????????????????????????

>>126730517
Blame the unreasonable idiots that paid for the item.

Youve seen Charan and his worthless talking sword right?

is there a filter for people with shitty ass clicking skills

im tired of taking two/three clicks to pick up something

>>126730836

dude just make ur're shit bigger lmao

>>126730953
shut up faggot i'm not computer nerd like you

>>126730760
Its a fucking staff. Its draw backs are completely fucking retarded compared to a shield + wand/dagger/sceptre combination.

None of the staves are good, they are all easily replaced by somewhat cheap items such as Saffels if you really wanted to. They give shit damage, cripple you from a defensive standpoint etc. They are bad items and thats why no one uses them. Any lightning caster will go for PoH over any of the Agenord staves if he has the necessary disposable income to spend.

That should tell you anything you need to know. At least Searing Touch used to be a niche unique that was BiS for certain builds. These things arent BiS for anyone because of how ridiculous bland and boring they are.

>>126730690
vendor them up or sell them retard

>>126731224
well staffs work for SRS build, but that's it I think.

>>126731224

>6l

rofl
>anyone going pledge
kek

it was build enabling for my arc in tempest

>>126730836
>http://bschug.github.io/poedit/poedit.html

Load any filter you want, proceed to edit the items any way you want.

>tfw no one will ever hack/leak server files and spawn private servers which would mod and fix everything

>>126730836
>>126731643

there has been one in the op for fucking months

>>126731626
Crit staff, whispering ice, pledge of hands

>>126730783
Thats different though. Charans item are memes that can be gotten on low level. By release shit like Agenords you block the slot for high level lightning spell caster staves because GGG sure as hell wont release one themselves now.

>>126731626
They could work for plenty of shit if they would finally be treated as what they are supposed to be: a glass canon alternative to shields. But their damage is so fucking bad that this will never happen.

>>126731639
Build enabling, lmao. I dont think you even know what a build enabler is. RotP and Shavs are build enablers. A fucking staff that gives you some Penetration or +5 Max Lightning resistance (which is nothing but a defensive layer and not even close t something like RotP+RF interaction) isnt a fucking build enabler.

>>126719560
>>126721560
i agree too

>>126731937
The Lightning staves arnt terrible, its hard to make a staff worth using though.

It either has to have some insane stat like Pledge or give a skill like Whispering Ice. None of the elemental staves are like that, even the best one isnt used much at all anymore.

Staves just need a rework.

>doing twinned orchard
>we run from the boss room
>fuckers spawn on our asses just as i put down a portal OUTSIDE their room
>my friend goes into portal
>i rip cause of stun

nice game poetards. fuck anyone who thinks this shit is balanced

>>126731937
sounds like you didn't cast elemental spells in 2.0
it was just so easy to do damage in high maps as a spell caster excluding incin ofc
why would i use a staff with pen and then be able to move though map at a better pace? why would i go lightning coil and +5
i don't know, you must know what you're talking about iguess

>>126731937
Agnerod South Lightning Coil using Iron Will+lightning skill?

Sounds like a pretty tanky option

>>126732332
hardcuck got BTFO

>>126732648
dont worry ill be 85 again in a couple days

>>126732332
>Doing twinned orchard
>Dont know that the boss can leave its room
>HC

Nice job retard

>>126732648
most softpoops are still stuck in normal

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>tfw you have a to run a white t10 map because you forgot to alch/q it

how can tard chore fags actually enjoy playing like autists

literally worse than savescumming

>can't equip shit at the vendor menu
trash fucking game

>>126734013
better than dying

>>126734205
game is literally designed to kill you or shoehorn your build into having more defensive nodes than people would like

GUYS

THERE IS A SKELETON INSIDE YOU

RIGHT NOW

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>>126734648

>>126734648
hahaha le skelespook meme

SPOKY SKARY SKELTONS XD

le spooked me mr skletal

>>126734648
Oh. So that's where I keep summoning skeletons from.

I am debating making another Summoner once Femurs gets fixed, but definitely not before.

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How's crit lightning strike this patch? I saw that it has seven, eight if you get a lucky corruption, projectiles this patch. Pretty fucking crazy. Just stumbled across a hegemony's in SC talisman and I'm looking to have some fun with it.

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me on the left explaining to the poeg senpai why I dislike blade vortex

>>126734793
Femurs is broken too???

the skeleton mages dont fucking work either. what the fuck is GGG doing?

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>>126735037

>>126734319
but i havent died once this league

Is it even worth it to still go crit?

>>126735243
yes

>>126735243
there are non-crit options now, but crit is no worse than before

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what does poeg think about essence drain

i bet if i use a dog picture they won't even realize i'm actually catposter

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i like to spend longer than necessary to progress while dying over and over again with a build that doesn't work for the illusion of having a good build in the precious few situations where i'm not getting buttraped by my utterly failed shitcore "build"

sometimes i also like to pretend like i'm playing in manmode by logging out and by making a tanky build while having it easier because items are easier to get in the cheat economy since there's more players and items never leave the economy so i'm practically handed good items while ironically playing like a mancore player in poopcore

>>126735372
What does it depend on whether or not to go crit? Still the implicit crit chance? So basically, as soon as a spell has 6%+ you should go crit?

>>126734987

[the skill you mentioned] is shit
go CoC cyclone bladefall
or just bladefall selfcast
it's the new and better version of firestorm, ridiculous effectiveness

I just seduced a support gm in giving me a mystery box with the icy weapon effect

>>126735891
edit

It was a female

>>126735891
i just seduced you're mum into giving me her baby box for my icy rod

>>126735490
implicit crit and whether or not the tree can support it

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>>126736048
>icy rod
L O L C U C K C A N T E V E N G E T I T U P

1-9 fap
0 play poe

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what's the best way to use 'projectiles return to you' craft from tora?

>>126736071
>implicit crit
So nothing changed. Meaning that there arent any new options faggot. If the crit chance was below 6% then there already were skills that worked well before.

>whether or not the tree can support it
What does that have to do with the spell being used? Thats something general that you can say by looking at the tree. And since you yourself said that crit still is good the tree obviously can support it.

>>126736965
before building 5% crit spells as crit was still a stronger option than noncrit

now noncrit is a stronger alternative and it makes things like staves stronger because crit staff spell builds were wonky

how has nothing changed in your feeble mind

>>126736965
you're such an annoying piece of shit, can you fuck off with your semantics for once

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Can Ice Nova be good now?

>>126737550
Never, it's too safe.

>>126737550
sure but blade vortex is probably better

Is clear mind good for a MoM build or is it just a leveling item?

>>126735037
Femurs causes godawful lag, stuttering, frame drops, and such.

>>126737550
it would be good if it wasnt for the horrid power creep in some of the new shit

not even counting vspark which needs to be re-tooled completely

>>126736910
Kinetic blast wander with 100% pierce and a frostwall setup (multitrap or echo)

>>126738243
what the fuck does vspark have to do with ice nova

>>126738383
vaal spark is better than ice nova => there's no reason to use ice nova

>>126738345
"return" doesnt proc if it pierces, forks or chains

>>126738383

i was merely mentioning vspark as not even counting on a real spell power rating, given its broken. and even then ice nova being bad comparatively

fucking vsparkbabbies getting triggered over nothing, its babyncineraters all over again

What masters should I put into my hideout and focus on leveling first?

>>126739208
the ones that give you the crafts you need

>>126739208
Zana, Vorici if you want a 6L, then whoever else for mods you wanna craft, like Elreon for meta-mod.

>>126739208
personally i always go for haku first so i can add res on to gear while levelling, then elreon and then whoever fits my build the best.

obv when zana is available you kick hakus old crusty ass out of his beach and invite her there

coastal hideout best hideout

>>126739613

>he can't 6l in 20-40 fus
kek

>>126739613
people actually use vorici for 6linking shit?

Why would you ever pvp in this game

>>126739919
i used him to 6l my shavs but only because i had over 3000 jewellers laying around

>>126739919
do you really want to gamble 1500 fuses and not get a 6L

at the point where you want a 6L you probably don't benefit much from getting lucky linking it, but you suffer severely by failing to get it

manually 5L stuff and if you 6L before that, great

>>126740123
>tfw ive only had two 6links and both of them were drops

>>126740332

2 6l and 0 drops or master crafts

>>126740123
>manually 5L stuff
I've sunk 600 fuses and not get a 5L before. After that I decided to never make a build with a 6L and just do 150 fuses from Vorici. I rather just buy a 6L clean later on instead if I ever really needed one.

only people who ever 6l stuff themselves are rmt, no life autists and extreme luck

the entire socket fuse system sucks ass.

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>>126740123
Reminder to 20q your items before attempting to six link them.

>>126740456
>After that I decided to never make a build with a 6L and just do 150 fuses from Vorici.

full fucking retard

you spend more fuses and forfeit your chance to get a 6-link

>>126740590
reminder your never going to craft anything good and will run out of scraps and stones too fast q'ing anything but white items.

>>126740625
Some people don't want to gamble, your so call "waste" of fuses only happens if you do in the billions of fuses to homogenize data point.

The fact you even said this imply you've never taken a statistic course ever in your life. The couple extra fuses that I'm paying for, relative to the super large sample size, is a guarantee. In a game full of RNGs on top of RNGs, Vorici is the only guarantee. Why gamble more when you don't need to?

I'm a shitcore retard and I agree 100% with hardcorefags that playing the game on shitcrow league doesn't teach you shit about the game.

Just killed Dominus on cruel, I think I killed myself about ten to fifteen times to get through his first form. Surprisingly I didn't die on his second form, but the point stands.

>>126740753
But anon, that's what you're supposed to do.
Crafting's already pretty simple with masters.

>>126740857
>The fact you even said this imply you've never taken a statistic course ever in your life.

statistically speaking, your expected value using vorici for 5L is massively negative

if anything, not wanting to gamble is an issue of finance, not statistics

don't try to talk big when you're not very smart

>>126740954
Now just imagine. If you were playing harcore, it would have taken you roughly 200 hours to get into act 4 cruel.
Or you could do like everyone else does and buy the kill.

>>126740954
nope, that's just you being retarded

>>126740857
if you dont want to put things up to RNG, that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that vorici is a statistical rip off, and, to make things worse, you dont get a shot at a 6-link

>>126740954
you can learn plenty on softcore. you just have to spend a moment thinking about why you're dying. that's it.

>>126741015
you're supposed to not have enough to do anything you need to do?

nice game poetards

>Crafting's already pretty simple with masters
i never have enough currency for 6l from masters. you have to be able to progress you know? which means you have to spend hundreds of fusings getting four and five link on everything. by the time i can start saving for a 6l, i'm about done playing the league because boredom takes too long to get anything good takes too much currency to do anything good.

>just setup a shop, just save, just just just

yeah nah you're a no life autist who treats poe like a job rather than a video game.

>>126740857
5-linking stuff isn't hard enough to warrant using Vorici for it
If you can't afford to do it by using fuses you probably shouldn't be trying in the first place

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