/twg/ - Total War General

Visigoths > Ostrogoths

>>126210538
1st for Rome

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>tfw E-
>it's out

1st for MEME RAW WAR

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>>126210538

>>126181692
By making deadly war machines, Goblins can grudgingly get the CA employees

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>>126210669

>It's out

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>>126210669

Who do I play, cunts?

>>126210680
LAAL RAR

>>126210834
>PONTUS

>>126210669
never thought I'd see this meme change. wonder what the Tomb kek will write when they're announced

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>>126210669
>>126210774
>still shit

I played my first match of Medieval 2 multiplayer recently. My opponent bought a bunch of cheap pike units and cheap infantry that he spread out in long lines and would put a pike and sword unit inside of each other.

Was he just pulling shit out of his ass or is this really the optimal meta?

>>126210834
Baktria.

>>126210901
The world will never grieve, it is already deceased.

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>>126210884

>pontus

>>126211142
>THE KINGDOM OF PONTUS

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>>126211221
>THE CITY OF SELEUKIA

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>>126211142

I get some swag fucking cavalry for my generals.

>>126211142
BUT

>>126211412
I

>>126211437
DON'T

>>126210929
Anyone?

He absoultely raped my expensive heavy infantry with a spaghetti line of warped together peasants and levy pikes.

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>>126211335

I get a decent bit of recruitment choices.

>>126211472
WANT

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>>126211501

Typical EB. Doesn't really matter, I'm going to lose half this shitty army against Gauls anyways.

>>126211582
TO

>>126211762
PLAY

>>126211762
PLAY

>tfw ancient empires is out everyone will play Pontus for the memes

>>126211893
>there will never be a huge pontus group on TWC.

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>>126211675

TAXEIS

>>126211797
>>126211795
AS

>>126211795
AS

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>>126212106

...This battlefield could be better.

>>126212290
time to camp

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>>126212290

That's an awful lot of cavalry.

>>126212137
>>126212132
PONTUS

>>126211412
>>126211437
>>126211472
>>126211582
>>126211762
>>126211795
>>126211797
>>126212132
>>126212137
>>126212519
But you don't have to play Pontus. There are other factions you can choose from!

>>126212617
BUT

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Realized I was holding one of the capitals for the WRE. Decided it needed a new name.

>>126210929
I'm not familiar with that but I've seen builds were they put gunpowder units inside the pike units. so it sounds like meta

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>>126212513

The game feels... oddly slow. The new javelin throwing animations are stupid, too.

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>>126212891

Cavalry is still godlike (what a surprise) and skirmishers run at the drop of a hat.

>>126212617
BUT I DONT WANT TO PLAY AS PONTUS

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>>126213156

Look at these badasses, though.

>>126213165
what is this reaction image trying to express

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>>126213254

Damn, infantry looks great when charging.

>>126211478
>>126210929
>p-pikes are useless!
>m-muh webm!

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Trying to think of a new, more Jewish name for the new settlement on top of Ctesiphon.

Thinking Calneh or just Babylon/New Babylon.

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>>126213442
>nostalgia fags actually thinks that looks good

>>126213538
how about "New York"

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>>126213442

And that's that.

>>126213538
New Zion.

>>126210894
They'll move on to some more obscure faction like Chaos Dwarves.

That said having them added would actually be pretty rad.

>>126213347
autism

>>126213538

Canaan

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I'm almost tempted to liberate Aksum since they are my favorite of the Desert Kingdoms.

Is there a release date for ancient empires?

>>126213538
Kiketown

Shekelville

>>126214065
>>>/pol/

>>126213538
If you're curious for a Jewy name that isn't memey, Tesfen would work.

>>126213957
If you're Christian then just do it

>>126213957
How and/or why do the Sassanids own Aksum

>>126214145
Those names roll off the tongue really well though

managed to get Attila to 62fps in medium stacked battles and campaign map at 70fps. With a mixture of quality and max quality with SSAO turned off, Shadows turned down to max performance and reflections lowered to performance.

This game is the only game i've come across where I had to lower settings and it seems 9 in 10 people have to. Still a gorgeous looking game though. Like a more polished R2.

>>126214436
It's a very CPU intensive game. I'd never reduce unit sizes so I keep everything at medium-low

>>126214567
I hope they programmed Warhammer properly. It's going to alienate the majority of PC players otherwise.

>>126214394
Arian Christian. Unless I can convert an NPC Aksum to Arianism, then I'll probably just conquer the Africans.

>>126214418
Sometime between Sassanids declaring war on me and Sassanids getting their ass kicked by Theodoric's men, they took over the lands of the Lahkmids, Himyar, and Aksum.

>>126214835
Designed for future hardware.

>>126214905
stop with this pathetic excuse

>>126214835
Even if they do, it'll still be very CPU intensive. Think of it as a quantity/quality thing. CPU handles quantity, GPU handles quality. Total War sticks with more rather than better.

>>126214983
>implying there's anything wrong with that

>>126201219

Originally I was going to release it when the Spanish and Moors were done but I decided to work on the Lombards (almost done) and Romans (since Avetis did some great hauberks they might be quick to do, too) before releasing it. What I should do is release it after those guys and after doing bug-fixing for FOTE. What I will probably do is release it after those guys, then continue to finish work on AOC. Then do bug-fixing and the celts and so on. That way once AOC reskins are done I have an Attila game I can play.

As for ETA with the holidays and all I can't give an accurate estimate, but I wouldn't say more than maybe 2 weeks, maybe less since the AOC reskin may not hinge on simultaneously releasing some FOTE bugfixing - it might just be the FOTE pack 1 and 2 (That contain the models for FOTE and AOC) updated and then the AOC reskin.

While I am still keeping it as low footprint as possible, I don't think it'll be immediately compatible with anyone doing total stat overhauls because I had to keep in the land_units table just to change animations in some cases - reflex bows to the Moors, spear and javelin to Moorish T1 jav-cav, shield and bow to the Lombard T2 archers and after I test it some more my 'knight' animation setup. That's trying to make it so chosen cavalry will carry the spear out of combat, charge with the spear and do that initial charge-attack animation with the spear but after getting into melee switch to swords.

By mimicking the kontos 2h lance animation I think I've got it to where the unit will not switch between spear and sword randomly, and I think if I change the mount animation from horse-spear-shield to horse-lance-sword it'll work. The reason is if I dont' switch that the horse will be operating on spear-shield animation in melee and the rider on sword-shield. So the horse will turn to the left, the guy will turn to the right and phase though.

>>126215020
There's no quantity or quality in TWWH though.

>>126215174
>lets not make our game work on every system possible in order to maximize sales
if it doesn't work on peoples systems, they will just refund it and see less profits because of it

>>126215415
Poor people can't afford the game anyway. They'll probably buy the game in a sale or pirate it. DLC is where the real money is.

I don't get the point of pushing rendering to such extremes for these games. Yeah I don't want them to look like they were made in 2002, but making the benchmark so fucking high is ridiculous.

>>126215493
anon why do you defend shitty optimization? Don't you want your game to run as smooth as possible?

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We'll conquer the holy land one day, brothers.

>>126215625
I want it to look as good as possible.

>>126215728
optimization doesn't mean
>MAKE THE GAME UGLY

>>126215702
oy gevalt

>>126215798
It's optimized, it's just that it looks so good current hardware has trouble running it at max.

>>126215947
no, anon, that's not how that works.

>>126215979
If it was 'optimized' to run on your toaster on max settings it wouldn't look as good

>>126215979
Optimization isn't magic.

>>126215979
>the game should run on my commodore 64 and look just as good

>>126216116
i don't have a toaster anon, and they can still make max settings look great while being optimized, I don't know why you defend CA.
>>126216124
you're right, CA is just lazy.
>>126216240
>projecting

>>126216280
You're not allowed to criticise CA.

>>126216280

I'm just gonna say this, the concept itself of "Max" being optimized is flawed, max is there to be a cap, it doesn't have to optimized, consider that the alternative would be a shittier looking max what would you choose? The one that you will eventually be able to run or the one you can run now but look slike Rome II?

>>126216416
What I don't get is why do people think that
optimizing your game means the game has to look worse?
That is literally never the case unless you are a consoletard

>>126216280
>scenario a: the game looks 5/10 on max settings and runs great on anons toaster
>scenario b: the game looks 5/10 on medium settings and runs great on anons toaster. it looks 10/10 on max settings which require a good computer, but anons toaster can't run it.

I prefer scenario b.

"It needs to run on max settings on my toaster" is a stupid attitude.

can someone post some dank medieval 2 webms?

>>126216601
I don't have a toaster you fucking moron
optimization doesn't mean the game has to look like shit

>>126216729

How else would you increase performance? Or are you one of those "I can run shogun 2 on ultra and it looks better" people? Because no, it looks nothing like that, not even when Attila is on medium

>>126216880
Ignore the retard

>>126216880
did you miss the giant optimization patches for Rome 2 and Shogun 2? The graphics didn't fucking take a hit and the games ran better because of them. That's all they have to do, I don't even have a toaster, I can run max settings fine, but the game IS unoptimized.

>>126210929
I don't know man. I think pikes might work but not on dismounted knight types.

Just shoot the fuckers next time. Peasant Archers are the best unit in the game. You don't give a fuck if they get run down because they're cheap but they still fire as fast as any unit and that's all that matters in the end, how many volleys can you get off before they're cut down.
Don't use fire either. They stun and break up charging formations, infantry anyway.

But I don't play online, so there ya go.
Desert Archers are that much better than peasant archers though because they have long range as well and a little extra attack for a little bit more money.

What DLC is essential? Is the last roman any good?

Culture packs?

Should I pirate the Charlemagne one?

>>126216931
>wanting games to look amazing AND run well is being a retard
how do you breathe?

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As if Theodoric's "curious" son could not be more of a disappointment, he begs his father for a "Steppe waifu", no doubt because the women from the Steppe are sometimes more manly than the men.. Theodoric is, unfortunately, a good father, and gets his son a Hunnic woman, as well as getting the Huns to declare war on a Sassanid ally.

>>126217142

No I didn't miss them, in Rome 2 the giant "optimization" patches killed the max lod, you have pop ins everywhere even on ultra, it was around patch 4, in Shogun 2 the only optimization that happened was on the campaign map, the game runs exactly like it did on launch but you're playing it with better hardware than before.

Shogun 2 on max has even worse LOD than Rome II, you can be looking at a unit from the front and the guy on the third row has the low poly shitty triangular face, you know the one, Shogun 2 enviorments are barebones, there are no extra elements to load, no cities, towns etc. castles are basically open fields surrounded by a wall, there are a lot of things to consider when making a direct comparison, Attila has all that plus extra things like civilians or fire effects, that while not extremely heavy on performance add up.

>>126217226
None are really essential. Empires of Sand is the best culture pack when it comes to faction variety, the Last Roman is pretty good if you want to byzaboo it up with Belisarius, but its meh otherwise. Charlemagne is the closest you'll get to a new Medieval game for a while but you might want to hold off on it until next summer.

>>126217226
Charlemagne is good, wait til it's on sale/pirate it
Last Roman is fun if you like Byzantium and want to reconquer Rome from the barbarians as Belasarius, but you don't need it

Culture packs: Sandpeople (add the most shit) > Longbeards (fun units) > Celts (sneaky britbongs with weaker units that can can deploy anywhere on the battfield) > Viking Forefathers (unit rosters are lacking, no interesting gameplay mechanics, faction traits are rather boring, Geats and Jutes are fun though if you want to be a viking I guess)
Only buy any culture pack if you actually want to play as a faction, the units are all in the game and there is literally no difference between owning and not owning a DLC if you don't want to play as the faction

Blood is full on kikery but if you want gore and more animations that's what you get

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>>126217226

Last Roman if you wanna play as Belisarius the Based

All the culture packs are good except for viking forefathers, and the empires of sand being the best out of the culture packs

However Charlemagne is the best overall DLC atm desu senpai

>>126217292
>I want the impossible

Why are you so entitled?

>>126217449
yeah Shogun 2 looks poor compared to Attila now, but then again, it looked phenomenal in 2011
all I want is for Attila to look good, AND run well. I don't know why people get so defensive over this.

>>126217818
You don't want it to look good, you want the max settings to be something you can run easily.

>>126213076
>EIGHT YEARS
EIGHT YEARS
>EIGHT YEARS
EIGHT YEARS

>>126217818


I don't know who is getting defensive but I'm telling you the game is running pretty much as it's supposed to, in 4-5 years people will make a direct comparison with the next TW and will say "Attila runs like a charm and looks better what's up with bongo congo TW 2 CA!?" and I hate that, because when you put the games side by side you see clearly where all that processing power is going.

>>126218038
>I don't know who is getting defensive
you should see the chain of replies I've been getting.
I remember Shogun 2 running perfectly on my old ass 550ti and shit CPU, I can't say the same for Attila, but yeah in 4-5 years when we all upgrade again of course it will run better. I honestly don't know why some people bother playing PC games if they have a toaster

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I wish to share this joke with all of you. Now, these guys have never bothered to send their armies against me. As well, I'm still besting their ally, the Sassanids. This is fucking hysterical.

>>126218725
>all those factions you are at war with
ya winnin son?

>>126217420
>He's still the heir
If it all goes to shit, then it's on your head.

Anyone know when the historical total war game will be announced?

sometime in spring of next year?

>>126218725
If you have a lot of monies AI will try to jew you and ask for mountains of gold in exchange for shit they would probably do for free

>>126218839
Not before Warhammer, that would be really stupid thing to do from a marketing perspective

>>126218795
>all those factions you are at war with
What? You've never fought the Sassanids before?

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>>126210538

Are the Longbeards and Vikings DLCs worth it?

>>126218937
No. They have mostly generic germanic units.

>>126218913
I swear i don't remember them having that many vassals

>>126218997

OK thanks. I got Celts because I hear good things, but I just wanted to check with /twg/ first.

>>126219168
Longbeards is better than Vikings and in my opinion is worth the money.

>>126218725

Maybe CA went overboard with the Sassanids nerfs and white huns.

>>126219331
were the Sassanid nerfs really that bad?

are any of the Rome 2 culture packs worth buying?

>>126219168
Sandpeople > Longbeards > Celts > Vikings

Sand people is the best one, it adds the most shit.

Longbeards have some fun units (e.g. Langobards get horse hewers and great melee infantry like clubmen), I like them.

Celts are fun because they are sneaky

Vikings have lacking unit rosters and no interesting gameplay thing to call their own, Geats and Jutes are kind of fun but really only worth it if you feel a craving to play as viking people, otherwise not worth it.
I got them for free when I bought my Attila key and that's how it should be

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>>126218937

Longbeards are pretty good

Vikings not so much

>>126218839
Any time post Warhammer release, but likely well after it.

They will want to keep the Warhammer hype going for ages.

>>126219012
I'm actually fighting less vassals than normal. Two of their vassals either betrayed them and got destroyed or got destroyed by another faction, and then the Sassanids just took their lands.

>>126219331
The White Huns don't exist in my campaign, since this was started before the patch.

>>126218801
Theodoric is having trouble telling his oldest son that he doesn't deserve to be heir for being a Greek lover. His other child is also a corrupt little shit, if I remember right, so he doesn't want to name him heir.

is Wrath of Sparta really that bad?

Okay twg what dlc should i get for Attila i dont have any
No Charlemagne because its not on sale

>>126219532
It doesn't even add a new faction to the grand campaign and you cannot play as the Achaemenids.

>>126219485

Maybe theAI went full retard because of that? All the time I've fought the sassanids it has been a slugfest

>>126218937
Sand > Long > Celts > Vikings

Sand pack is the best, the most unique units and interesting starting locations.

Longbeards is okay, its mainly fun just because of how strong the factions are.

Celts is hit or miss depending on whether or not you like guerrilla deployment or not.

Vikings is utter shit, its just Saxons with some not-so-unique units.

>>126212891
the pace of soldiers movement was mentioned in the previous thread as being slow.

the new javelin animations are brilliant breh

>>126219532
Not really people just mad because hoplites fight hoplites, i dunno what they expect from ancient greeks dlc

>>126219485
Actually, turns out the corrupt shit is not one of Theodoric's kids. One of the sons is actually the perfect choice for heir since he has no negative traits, and is no doubt loved by the people for leading the charge into Sassanid territory. The other heir is also a decent choice, except he both hates and fears the Easterners. Also sleeps around a lot, like a whore.

>>126219652
No idea, mate. It probably helps that the Huns were paid off to ignore the ERE, and the ERE still has like 12 regions to their name, so they can still field some armies.

>we will never see the campaign map gameplay of Crusader Kings combined with the combat of TW
why even live

>>126220150
Good

>>126220290
>I dont want depth in my TW games
Kiddie pls go

>>126220150
>my dream game is all the games i like combined into one XD
>what if they took skyrim and made an mmorpg
>what if you had assassins creed but if you zoomed out it was the entire world with all the assassins
>what if in mirrors edge you could edit the levels like minecraft

You live to grow up, gain self awareness and look back on your youth and how stupid you were back when.

>>126220047
The people have no feelings towards your generals, it's all in your head canon.

>>126220559
>implying they are incomparable
>having no grasp on how games actually work and realizing how simple it actually would be
Unfortunately for you stupidity cant be unlearned and you will never realize how idiotic you sound.

>>126220725
>>having no grasp on how games actually work and realizing how simple it actually would be

are you smoking crack

>>126220774
You're cute, but a bit pathetic.

>>126220873
>>126220725
Straight outta high school

I bet you failed math too because you sure are fucking stupid

>>126220559
>those strawmans
Have you even played CK? It is literally just a TW campaign map but real time and with far far more depth.

Obviously the real time part has to go, but all the depth it has wouldn't need to. In fact TW has a handful of CK features, they are just really bare bones.

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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE

Replacement cooler shipped, installed properly and working like a charm!

BAD NEWS EVERYBODY

Had to reinstall steam and uninstall all my games in the process because it fucked up, that'll take ages.

>>126221192
>not having a back up of your drives on an external device
Your own fault

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>>126221289
I am not a clever man

>>126221482
it shows

>>126213590
you're a fuckin retard

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>>126221541
I<3u2

only 25 minutes until Attila is installed!

>>126221570
mad nostalgiagoogler/ toaster owner detected

does anyone else get extremely bored of attila very quickly? i can play shogun 2 & fots for hours but i get bored after like 2 battles in attila

>>126221669
An old game can still look good. The uniforms look good in particular to vanilla.

>muh shiny new Attila graphics
Fuck off turk.

>>126221736
No.

Played 300 hours and I'll keep going.

Shogun 2 was really boring, presentation is nice but everyone looks, plays and feels the same, I felt like I was done after two or three campaigns.

>>126221913

i cant put my figure on what i find incredibly tedious about attila, but it honestly bores me to tears to the point where i can only play for 30 minutes tops some times before i quit out

>>126221787
>A-Attila!

nobody brought up Attila my friend.

is the toast nice and crispy? does the shit taste nice?

han solo dies

>>126222294
yeah, yeah
and Kylo Ren kills him, and is also his son
we've all seen the movie

>>126222294
luke kills himself in the first 10 minutes

>>126221736
I've been like this with all TWs lately, even Med 2 and RTW nostalgia isn't doing it for me anymore. I'm going to try out Med 1 and after that I'll probably turn to gsg and Age of Empires for my strategy fix.

>>126222294
>>126222420
who gives a fuck about star wars

back to reddit

>>126222057
>Complaining about the graphics of a 10 year old game.
I can only assume you're playing Attila or Rome 2 since you care so much about gfx.

>>126222504
Well apparently no one is capable of actually running Attila so it's more likely he's playing Shogun 2.

>>126222504
>if you don't think this garbage looks fucking amazing you must love Rome 2 more than anything

nice

>>126212106
d-do they speak native ancient languages on the strategic map also?

>>126222676
>Strawmanning
>Complaining about graphics of a decade old game
>Being an inbred turk

>>126221736
The combat is way too slow and far too forgiving.

You can have a shock cav unit charge into the back of a spear unit and not lose the entire unit instantly.

After playing shogun 2 I really cant get into Attila anymore

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The amount of cavalry in these rebel armies is ridiculous.

>>126222882

Yeah, they spout some bizarre shit

>>126222929
Who was complaining?

Anon says it looks amazing and pointing out that it clearly doesn't is being from Turkey and loving Rome 2?

It doesn't look good in any way and that's all there's to it

>>126223087
>Complaining about graphics of a decade old game
My point still stands. If you could even read, you'd notice I mentioned Attila, not Rome 2 but that's just being pedantic and over-expectant of a turk like yourself to notice.

>>126223390
>how dare he insult the prophet?!

you nostalgiababbies sure are fucking stupid

pointing out facts now counts as complaining if said facts don't suit you

just keep feasting on shit and pretending it tastes great

>>126223535
>>126223390
>>126223087
>>126222929
Would you just fuck and get over it already

>>126223390
>This looks fucking incredible! This is the best thing ever it's so fucking amazing don't you agree??

>No actually it looks rather bad.

>HOW DARE YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE GRAPHICS IT'S AN OLD GAME HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY CRITICIZE THIS

>>126223782
>s-stop bullying me!

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>>126223023

goddamn what the fuck

this shit's gotta be reduced

>>126223813
>implying im him
Nice try, but you are both retarded idiots.

Now shut the fuck up

>>126220615
Hey, that influence he gains has to count for something. Must be love of the Visigothic people.

>>126223535
It has nothing to do with nostalgia, it has to do with you honestly expecting a 10 year old game to look as good as one of the newer total wars, and even gauging it in the first place which comes back to my first post: you're a fuckin retard.

>my opinion is M2 is shit
>my opinion is fact
Turks like you seriously need to gas themselves

>>126223813
>reverting to hyperbole because you have no argument to support your dumb opinion and idea to uphold a 10 year old game to today's standards
>Complaining about the graphics of a 10 year old game, expecting it to look as good as Attila
>Implying he wasn't talking about unit uniforms.
Just stop.

>>126224104
>>Complaining about the graphics of a 10 year old game, expecting it to look as good as Attila
>expecting a 10 year old game to look as good as one of the newer total wars
Literally who is doing any of those things

>it looks amazing
>no it doesn't
>why are you complaining it's 10 years old game you are clearly a Rome 2 fan from Turkey

Just because it's 10 years old doesn't mean it looks good

>>126224313
>Turks still can't figure it out
Giving me a good chuckle.

>>126224104
But even if you ignore the claim that the graphics look amazing and squint your eyes so all the technical aspects disappear, the unit uniforms don't look good, the way they hold their spears looks stupid, there's little variety

Nothing about that looks good

>>126224429
>>>/pol/
"ur a turk" is not a good argument

>>126224603
Just hide and report the nostalgia shitposters

I don't think it looks good, but you people need to learn how to ignore each other.

>>126213442
>Damn, infantry looks great when charging.

How thick are your nostalgia googles, friend?

like what the fuck lmao in what universe does that look good

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>>126223839

ever deeper into the hole I go

>>126221192
Nice blog, we should care why?

>>126224603
It looks fine, quit being a graphics autist. You spend more time zooming around commanding men then you do to make sure their sandals are laced properly and they hold their spear with the appropriate space between their fingers

You're still a dirty turk either way, and it has nothing to do with /pol/.

>>126224675
Being this brutally mad.
I'm laffin.

>>126225375
>If you don't think this garbage looks amazing you are a graphics autist and a turk
fucking lmao

notalgia babbies are out in full force i see

your game doens't look amazing, it doesn't look alright, it looks like fucking shit and i don't give a fuck how old it is

i sure am sorry your grandmas toaster can't run anything better, but that doesn't change the fact it looks like complete and utter garbage

>>126224838
>PONTUS

>>126225375
>u m-mad bro!!!
>s-stop bullying my shitty game!
>why do you suddenly care about graphics when I say these shitty graphics look amazing

le hang urself

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>>126221736

No

Well maybe recently... Warhammer or ancient empires/medieval kingdoms will change that probs

>194 replies
>40 posters

>>126226168
It's called "general"

What exactly are you expecting

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This is a bully free zone

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Just bought Rome 2 and I am very close to the two hour time limit before Steam will refuse a refund request. I have turned down most of the settings in options menu and I am still getting terrible fps. Are there some work arounds or files that I can edit that will improve fps?

I thought turning shadows to lowest would improve fps but it hardly did anything. Will I have to edit the files myself to improve the performance of the game? I really really really don't want to have to ask for a refund.

>>126221736
Shogun 2 just has really fun combat compared to other TW games. I'm not sure why. Attila I feel like has better unit responsiveness and it generally feels easier overall, but in Shogun 2 despite how unwieldy it can feel sometimes I get a lot more satisfaction watching line infantry mow down a cavalry charge, or katana samurai chop up ashigaru by the dozen as they scale the walls of a fortress.

>>126226462
weeb faggot

>>126226498

nigga if you cant run rome 2 give up.

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>My clan's greatest general falls to his most hated foes

He led a campaign that destroyed most of the rival clans, and he didn't fall during the war.

No, he fell on his way home to the capital, ambushed by a clan he had thought destroyed.

>Tomokata thought he and his 600 men could hold off 3,000 Hattori men
Anyways, I'm still kinda new to Shogun, what's the babby's first clan?

>>126226602
>Shogun 2 just has really fun combat compared to other TW games
You really think so?

I thought it was the easiest out of all the Total Wars I've played and just really boring, the sieges were especially bad

Also the AI was really simple, just sitting on the closest hill and waiting for you to bait around with cav

I've only played 50 hours and I feel like I'm done with it, maybe if I go back I'll have more fun but right now I really so no reason to

>>126226815
Chosokabe or Shimazu, maybe Date

>>126226863
I speak mainly of Fall of the Samurai. Normal Shogun 2 got old pretty fast. But FotS is great. Artillery and diverse gunpowder units mixed in with samurai and traditional levies makes for very satisfying battles, if not necessarily very hard.

>>126226498

make sure its not using your integrated gpu and power saving is on max performance, other than that the game runs on toasters, if you cant all i can say is damn nigga.

>>126226815
Definitely the Shimazu.
>strong katana samurai form a hard backbone for your armies
>isolated at the ass-end of Japan so you can expand quickly without having to fend of multiple enemies
>access to multiple trade routes that let you get fucking rich early on without having to bother with diplomacy

They're so easy to play safe with I almost recommend not playing them til you're more experienced, or you'll develop bad habits that will hinder you with other clans.

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>>126227019
>>126227386


Thanks lads, I'll stop playing the Shimazu then.

Don't want to get too attached to crutches.

>>126226815

shimazu is the ultimate total war babby clan

>pretty much the most defensible starting location in the entire game
>access to all the trade nodes from turn 1
>clan gets a bonus to the best infantry in the game
>start on an island which you can very easily consolidate within 15-20 turns and then fortify, tech up, eco up and build a few powerful armies to stomp the other island and the main land
>start with an armory in your capital and a paper mill nearby on your island

they are EXTREMELY easy, on turn 1 build a few katana samurai and upgrade your port to a trade port and start spamming trade ships and sending them off to all the nodes whilst you blitzkreig the entire island with your upgraded katana samurai that absolutely shit on everything

try and kill the otomo as quick as you can so they cant spread their cancerous religion around

burning through all the other provinces in japan becomes an absolute cakewalk once you consolidate your starting island

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>>126226462

>>126225631
When did I ever said it looked amazing? I said you're an idiot for muh grafix, and that it looks fine.
It has nothing to do with nostalgia you falseflagging turk, you sure do have some weird autism towards M2.

>>126225772
autism.

>>126228417
maybe check the reply chain you idiot

>>126228132
>try and kill the otomo as quick as you can so they cant spread their cancerous religion around
Oh right I forgot the Christfags. Fuck. First thing I do after taking Bungo is raze that fucking Nanban port.

>>126228626

the should only really have 2 provinces max when you fight them so its not a huge deal, just make sure you deal with them early on because having to deal with several provinces that are turning christian is a huge pain in the ass when you wont have monks

>>126226815
Does anyone have the Gook image of the ashigaru dying with the gay poem superimposed

>finally get Attila since it's on sale
>play for first time
>dark, atmospheric intro cinematic
>[throat singing intensifies]
>narrator quoting revelations
I think I like this game.

>>126224838
Just fuck my economy up senpai.

>>126229105
My first thoughts when I bought it earlier. On the prologue now. The food management is confusing the fuck out of me. I have surplus but already had 2 rebellions.

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>>126229105

THE AIR WAS FILLED WITH SMOKE AND BLOOD

>Games on sale
>No money since I spent way too much on my family and friends
Fuck.

No Rome 2 for me this year, then.

>>126229105
I'm not even fucking around. A few months ago I was still butthurt about rome 2 so I disregarded anything related to Attila. That was until I saw the intro and heard the menu song... that alone made me reconsider.

I ended up reading up on the game and eventually bought it.

>>126229589
You've done yourself a favor. Just get Attila.

>>126229428
Are you taxing your food-producing province? Untaxed provinces do not consume or produce any food.

>>126229428
What do you need help with?

The thing you need to keep in mind is that there's overall food, but also every province (each set of three settlements/towns) wants to have enough food.
To check that you click on any town and on the symbol in the bottom left to pop up a province menu that tells you if there's enough food.

Also remember to hover over everything, e.g. the smiley face to see why people are un-/happy

>>126229105
The music is really nice, there's no single track that I really like like in Shogun 2 for example, but the music that plays while you do stuff and the throat singing is great.

>>126229635
Can't even afford that, sadly.

I'll add it to my list of games to buy, at least.

>>126229732
I like the victory music in Shogun 2 and a couple other tracks, but I kinda like traditional Japanese music.

>>126229850
The victory music and that one song from FotS is what I was thinking of when I said "single track"

give me a quick crash course on playing the hattori clan

>>126229660
They're all food producing. Even built a fishing jetty for Olbia so they have their own food.

Still negative order everywhere. I'm just besieging the capital of the Ostrogoths at the moment so I assume I'm near the end of the prologue.

Maybe its just the new mechanics will take some time to get used to as I'm more comfortable with Rome 2 these days currently doing a Parthian campaign on that and its truly glorious.

Thanks for the advice though. But how come even with food surplus there's shortages? Oh and I take it optimising provinces is a must in Attila whereas with Rome 2 it was optional?

>>126229921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok86Hw5CZqE
This one?

>>126230117
please read post >>126229732

Food is not only global but also in the provinces

Hover over shit, e.g. there's a -20 PO thing for one turn after you conquer a new settlement and a -10 thing that goes lower every turn

Religion is very important, people get mad when there's too many heretics around

>>126229732
So food surplus isn't distributed evenly automatically or something?

The biggest problems with the public order are religious tensions,food shortages and squalor. It's only the prologue so I'd rather know this stuff before I delve into the grand campaign.

>>126229474
>you will never rape Advisor-chan while Old Man-kun narrates.

>>126230117

One advice about preventing food shortages I can give ya is to build alot of those "storage pit" buildings

They'll help you in winter seasons as the food production during winter plummets down. It gets much worse later on into the campaign when theres a literal ice age coming through from the north, you'll end up having 3 winter turns per year instead of just 1

>>126230385
Ah I get it now. I'm likely having problems because this prologue is scripted so I can't improve food and religion dramatically due to the 3 regions east of me being locked.

So in the grand campaign if it gets really bad just untax the food producing province?

>playing as the lahkmids
>finally get to a position where I think I can war with the sassinids
>declare war.
>4 full stacks attack hira
>I have 2 full stacks and the garrison
>they aren't going to press their advantage I'm going to have to Sally forth
> 7000 vs 5000.
> I don't usually slow or pause time. Only full time
> The battle lines close units melt away
> kill their gen as my king dies
> lines are too fluid centers keep shifting.
>complete blood bath
> it comes down to a bunch of slingers without ammo and a single Kurdish Archer unit with ammo vs 3 wrecked horse Archer units. All exhausted
>Kurdish archers end up being last men standing.
One of the most intense battles I've had. Pretty much dictates how this campaign would go. While losing a good general and my king I also managed to shatter the sassanids most of my units actually survived the battle too. Only a couple were outright killed. The feeling of finally over throwing the yoke of oppression was great.

>>126229962

do the same things you would do as any other clan

>>126230208
yes

>>126230423
That's right, provinces would like to be self sufficient food wise.

You should try to get rid of squalor, negative can cause plagues.
To do that building a well in one or both of the small towns in the province, wells add sanitation to every city in the province.

Sanitation is for every individual city, food is for the entire province

Also, if you are playing as barbarians, the city (big settlement) gets "town food storage", that gives 90 food and 9 sanitation when it's all the way upgraded

Check the round symbol thing in the bottom left when you click on a city, and hover over everything like sanitation or public order

>>126230668
If you have public order problems religious buildings help a lot, recruit a priest, you can deploy him (use ability like you would change stance with an army) to make public order go higher and he automatically converts people too

Stationing armies in a province is helpful too

Rebellions aren't too terrible short term, they make the PO go up by 20 automatically because all the angry people go leave and live in the forest, but they grow every turn.
So you could leave rebels alive for one or two turns and then kill them.

IF OUR DAIMYO IS TO BECOME SHOGUN

>>126230992
SUPREME MIRITARY RURER OF ARR JAPAN

>>126230992
MIRITARY RULER OF ARR (soft g) GAPAN

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>>126230992

MILITARY RULER OF ALL ROME

>>126230668
oh and don't conquer too much shit too quickly, -20 public order for one turn, also there's an instability thing that you need to calm down a little

Loot and occupy fucks up public order even more

You don't get every town to 100 before you get the next one but just let public order calm down a bit to avoid rebellion

Why is Legendairy the only acceptable difficulty for TW
Can't they make something that's actually hard?

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All this Pontus posting is bringing back memories

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>>126231953
No Seleukids
Hellenics only
I don't want to play as Pontus

>>126231892
>tfw have to play on easy

i really hate being shit at video games

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>>126232159
Ah that's the one I was looking for.

What ever happened to Gook?

>>126232556
come back Gook, you can post all the Chinese Med2 mods you want and we'll never make fun of you like we did before

COME BACK GOOK

>>126232473
>easy
m8, just pop to medium, trust me, I wasn't confident myself but now I typically do Hard

>>126231892
There are a handful of people in the world that can code genuinely good AI

>>126232556
Got doxxed.

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>>126232556
>What ever happened to Gook?
Some guy found a picture of him, printed it out, and blasted a load on it. This made him rather uncomfortable and he turned off his trip.

>>126231892
I can only play Attila on hard and I savescum a lot :(

>>126233290
I'll blast all over that gif if you don't fuck off forever Gook

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>>126232556
>screencapping replies to your own post

>>126233441
>Tau
>implying Gook likes space commies

>>126228487
You mean the part where I said old games can look good and the uniforms are decent, idiot? You can't turn it into hyperbole you dumbfuck turk.

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>think about how cool it would to be a warhammer vampire
>never need to sleep, can build up my knowledge of the world
>realize that even if I was a vampire i'd probably spend all my time shit posting, browsing the internet, and playing shit games

>>126233650
I actually mean what the argument was originally about and not what your inbred nostalgiababbie mind warped it into

But hey, you are probably too retarded to understand, just go play some more Rome and cream yourself over how great it looks :)

>>126233670
nice faggot reaction image, you faggot

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Post a screen of your next battle.

>>126232473
>>126233307
hahahaa fucking manchildren babby fucking shitters, kill yourselfs

>>126233807
Oh, you mean that other guy who got his dick twisted in his kneejerk reaction because the player thought it looked nice and, retard turks like you pop out of the woodwork as if on call to spout buzzwords like nostalgiababy?

>f-fuck the nostalgiababies
You're just gasping for air with all this falseflagging.

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>>126233941
>every image posted it a reaction image

sometimes i post images just because i like them. this is an IMAGE board. dummy

>>126234170
Hey buddy, aren't nostalgia googles this thick on available with prescription?

You are the autistic retard that's trying to defend another nostalgiagoogler claiming Rome looks great

fucking lmao

>>126234306
if you actually like that gif you are an even bigger faggot

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Ignoring any "Rome 2 is shit" concerns, out of Wrath of Sparta, Caesar in Gaul and Hannibal at the Gates, which of the Rome 2 mini campaigns is best if compared to the others?
Imperator Augustus is free but might also be worth considering

Are any of them worth playing (compared to the Rome 2 main campaign)? If/if not, why?

If possible I would like you to rank them.

>>126234383
>10 year old game doesn't look like Attila
ayyyyy

>>126234834
>This looks great!
>No it doesn't.
>waaaaaa stop bullying me why do you expect it to look like [new game nobody mentioned], it's 10 years old waaaaa

Someone dropped these nostalgiababbies on their head

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>>126234834
Wow, this granny sure is fucking hot!! My dick has never been harder! What, did you expect this 94 year old to look as good as 20 year olds? What's wrong with you lmao

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>>126235063

>>126234970
>This looks nice
>No it doesn't
>It looks fine, the graphics need to be gauged with the tech and age
>No it's fucking shit, better call start using buzzwords to make detract attention away from my retarded opinion and inability to like a game's graphics based on its age
Wew lad.

>>126235063
>>126235273
autism.
>>126235063
Autism.

>>126235594
>graphics need to be gauged with age
????

Why? If it looks like shit now then it's shit.

>>126235791
>Can't enjoy older games because graphics
>Being a graphicsfag
>The games today will look like shit in 5 years
Fucking turks please go.

>>126233290
As a taufag this .gif pleases me greatly. Where is it from?

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>>126235927
>older titles are shit only because of graphics

>>126235937
it's not from anywhere, it's just a gif

>>126235594
>by my standards 10 years ago it looks alright
>therefor it looks fucking amazing today

jej

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>>126236230
>>126237020
>strawmanning

>>126234792
please respond :D

>>126234792
Rome 2 is cocks and anyone that wants to talk about it should be crucified like you so get out or fucking stop shitting up the thread and talk about 1 of the only 3 good TWs (M, RTW, M2, because anime can fuck off)

>>126237527
>M, RTW, M2

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha

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>>126237527
You missed the best total war game my friend.

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>>126237527
>1 of the only 3 good TWs (M, RTW, M2

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>>126237527

>M2

>>126221736
complete opposite for me

>>126237624
>>126238095
>>126238160
>>126238449
samefag

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>>126239541
Giving up already? I accept your admission of Shogun 2 as the perfect game.

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>>126239541

Gonna buy all the DLC for Attila except AoC. I hope I won't have regerets.

>>126240386
Vikings isn't really worth it

>>126240386
Last Roman is fun if you're a Byzaboo and want to reconquer Rome as Belasarius

Sandpeople > Longbeards > Celts > Vikings

Remember to only buy shit you actually want to play as because there's no difference between owning and not playing and not owning

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>>126239541
You are right, my friend.
Perhaps I shall take a break and aquire true taste by playing Medieval 2 Total War: Kingdoms

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>>126241501
>Medieval 2 Total War: Kingdoms

>>126241501
oh my god I was right all along.. it's just this singular shitposter that shits on m2 all the time

>>126241765
Yes, you have caught me.

CA pays me 5$ per anti-Medieval 2 post, it's all part of their agenda

>>126241765
Jokes on you I haven't been here in 3 months.

>>126241847
Well you've got yourself caught
What's the next stage in your shilling agenda?

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>>126242295
Stabbing the Caesar
WITH NO SURVORS

>>126242295
Promoting Total War: Warhammer.
First we rid the fanbase of everyone that owns a toaster, Warhammer will have incredibly high system requirements and to avoid a backlash we can't have any of the people that still play Medieval 2 because that's all their computer can handle throwing a fit.

Have you seen those details on the units?
They don't come for free, even after bullshots toasters won't run it.

The ">tomb kings still not announced" posts were also all me.
It's all part of hyping them up as a big release, we are worried they are too niche to carry an expansion pretty much on their own.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>126242606
No, this can't be happening, I'm in charge here!

>>126242787
That's what we want you to think.

For you it's all fun and games, but for us it's cold hard cash, our livelihoods are at stake here.

>>126243826
Have we started the selling?

>>126242782
Expansion race.

> guard mode back for warhammer

THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU REMOVE IT FROM R2 & ATTILA

will trade my soul for r2 or attila

>>126245402
so that consumers wouldnt be on their guard

>>126245462
Meet be down by the railroad tracks tomorrow night, then

Why in EB in custom battles every faction can use every unit, expect rome , which cant use roman units

>>126245663
I wonder if any Japs in Shogun 2 waited on the tracks for the night train

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>the only way to prevent yourself from save scum is legendary mode

>>126246827
This is why I love XCom, ironman mode isnt related to difficulty levels

>>126232556
wow gook must have left with all that repressed homo after seeing jizz on his face

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>>126233483

>>126246827
>Keep wanting to do Legendary mode. but don't want to do Legendary style battles.

I don't slow down time in battles, but i do like having the freer camera controls. I don't want to do battle realism or rather i'm worried about battle realism.

Also I find Attila hard enough on very hard. But i probably could easily beat a legendary shogun game.

>>126246905
You should kill yourself if you play anything other than brutal ironman man though and then get fucked when the mission glitches out

>>126247517
I'm sure you can lower the combat difficulty, if that is your main problem. Legendary campaign, hard battles or something.

>>126247623
You can't. Have you never played legendary before? Jesus christ. Don't give out your worthledd opinion if you don't have any experience.

>>126247791
No, only Very Hard, but since you can change battle difficulty in other campaign difficulties, I just presumed you could do the same in Legendary, but Battle Realism would still be enforced.

>>126247596
I play on normal
And checkmate, I managed to fuck up my suicide
>fucking up a suicide
I should kill myself

>>126248073
You can't change anything on legendary.

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>>126215702
>>126215827
I renamed everything in the ME in my Jewts game to either Nordic, Yiddish, or a disgusting combination of the two, same with all my armies. I was quite happy with the results.

>>126248305
Well, I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me, mate.

>>126248656
yeah, well fuck you

>>126248607
Look at those disgusting barbar cities in what should be a pure, Sassanid land.

>>126248771
Barbar cities look glorious in a sandstorm. Also, Viking migration is something I realized I really enjoy in CK2, with my Indian Ocean Viking shenanigans.

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With all the melting pot of different cultures it's hard for Americans to call themselves Celt or German, Saxon or Angles, etc. even to the extent of not identifying one nation in the pic related.

Though some are European and, naturally, can find their nation on the list.

So find your long lost total war nationality by looking for the line that fits you most!

When is WH coming out?

>>126241052
Why?

>>126241304
How will I know what I want to play as if I've never tried them?

Am I scrub for hating how punishing some of the high tier buildings are in Attila? Most times I just don't build them at all.

>>126250482
literally kill yourself for being such a scrub

>>126249372
>>>/his/