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Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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Fun Edition

>Whats New:
Lunara released
Patch notes: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19981657

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.


>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130

Previously on /hotsg/: >>125814229
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Lunara is pure shit.

WELL DONE BLIZZARD.
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>>125912674
He-Hey Man!
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>>125913029
Yeah, it's depressing.
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>>125913029
that's a funny way of spelling fun and cute desu
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Nerf to her d fucking when?!
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xth for clearing waves with melting point and being terrible at everything else blizzard pls
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>>125913294
she could nerf my d any time if you know what I mean
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>solo queue QM
>get matched against a 4+1 team.
>have a Cho'Gall on dragon shire
>He/they insist on staying mid the entire match so they can get dragon

What do I do to deserve this?
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>>125913451
You posted Li Li images in /hotsg/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0_nfb-1Jv8
Now I want a dominatrix Kerrigan skin and a big tits valla
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>>125913284
She's super fun and cute, but why would I pick her over other assassins or even Nazeebo. Just going to play her in QM(lol) and hope they have no support.
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Will Greymane continue the shitty releases
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>>125913867
I didn't. I can stand furries.
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>>125913363
he's getting buffed along with gazlowe, soonish. I wonder how they're going to buff either of them to actually make them viable.

theory crafting go.
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>>125914707
Probably too much shitposting or you could be like me and be doing too much jimmy posting anon.
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I'M SOOOOO WASTED, I'M SOOOOO WASTED
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>>125914942
More damage for Tychus build be nice
Also getting resistence while in Odin
Making his dash actually usefull for retreating
More ideas?
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>play aba in QM
>Solo Q places me in mirror matches
>that spy vs spy shit when two abas roam the map
>You both tele to the same area to push and its a 1v1 with nests and shit

Aba is 100% fun approved. Can someone tell me how to make .webms I have some funny replays
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>>125914978
I did make the pussy image from the Chinese shit...
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>>125914942
Tychus:
Buff the health of both ults.
Seasoned Marskman
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>>125915254
why didn't we get a fun dryad
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>>125913451
>>125913867
In my next match our lineup was Nova, Lunara, Abathur, Azmodan, and LT. The Aba spent all game laning like a normal hero. I am truly cursed.
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>>125915604
All they had to do was copy the Dota Enchantress. They went and fucked it up.
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So how the fuck do I build Mr. Khaz'Modan?
Perfect Storm - Third Wind - Skull Cracker - Avatar - Burning Rage - Dwarf Launch - Unstoppable Force?
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>>125916262
Looks good.
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>>125916262
yup looks perfect, no problems there
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>>125916262
Nice build, funny too
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when are we getting a new leoric skin

I'll pay anything blizz just pls
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>>125915294
google webm for retards
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>>125916657
Space Leroic like 15th of Jan
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>>125916657
next patch actually. Space King Leoric.
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>>125916771
>>125916737
thats too long
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>>125912674

I need the source images for those Lili
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>>125917001
B-back the fuck off??!!!
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>>125916771
>>125916737
>decide to google it
>sees skin preview
>mfw

I'm so excited for it! I already have a level 20 Leoric, I love using him and ETC so much!
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>>125915294
Seen them all before, aba vs aba has been done before. Its also really annoying to mirror with him unless he doesn't body soak.
Dunno how to make WebMs with replays so sorry about that.
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>>125915294
>>125917131
first capture the video with something like d3dgear or shadowplay
then convert that to webm with
www.ffmpeg.org/download.html
following these instructions
https://gist.github.com/ndarville/10010916
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Summer Fun Bikini Lili skin when?
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>>125917124
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>>125917124
You are cancer.
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>>125917001
its just festival Li Li posed in 3d studio max
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>release a hero
>put the strongest counters on free rotation

GOOD JOB BLIZZARD
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>>125917630
But anon, anyone with stun is her counter.
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>>125917756
Why do you need a stun when Butcher and Raynor can kill her in 2 seconds?
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>>125917873
Because Lunara can apparently reach warp 10 running away sometimes when I chase her.
Or im just shit
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>>125913029
I can't believe how long I have had 20k gold. I keep thinking there will be a decent and fun hero, so they made Medic, nah she sucks apparently, Rexxar, who sucked and is only kinda good now, Cho'Gall who was free, now I guess Lunara is shit?

I basically never play this game but if they ever brought out a good hero I would buy it.
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>>125917873
If butcher doesn't use his stun then Lunara can just kite him.
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What's the best skin in the game, /hotsg/?
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>>125918229
Succubus Kerrigan or Samus Medic
IMO
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I miss when Diablo was pillow fisted and not total bullshit wombo combo
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>Rehgar gets a slow
>Malfurion gets a root
>Uther gets a melee range single target
>Tyrande gets a ranged aoe stun

Why is this allowed? Rehgar buffs when?
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>>125918229
Eva Unit 1 Feedtanis.

He mustn't run away.
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>>125918229
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>>125918229
Tie between Desert Queen Zagara or Succubus Kerrigan.

Just kidding, it's 3rd tint Master Muradin.
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>>125917493
Did I do something wrong?
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>play Aba, Murky, Tass, random tank, Tyrander/BW on towers of doom
>always win because you always make it to the late game
ebin map
ebin game
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>>125915330
>yes
>no, unless they make Armor Piercing Rounds the base Overkill damage and then buff it some more
maybe even scrap the current Overkill and turn it into "For X seconds, you can attack while moving think Diamondbacks from WoL campaign, your basic attacks splash to nearby targets for 50% damage uses the same area of effect and particle/voice effects as the current Overkill, that would make the AA talents not crap.
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>>125919025
No, there's a lot of autistic manchildren in this thread that will take issue with anything you say.

I'm probably offending someone right now just by saying this.
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How do I play le screaming shaman guy?
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>>125918220
>>125918167
You shouldn't be getting kited as Butcher. You're bad.
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>It's a the butcher activates his furnace too early so it explodes mid charge and hits absolutely no one episode
I sure love playing with free week heroes!
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Post em
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>>125916262
>>125916262
Thunder clap cd reduction per enemy hit and heal 1.5% per enemy hit is pretty fun. It invalidates Nazeebo's zombie wall because it's like 10 dudes so you can instantly drop two thunder claps, delete the wall and heal for 30%, maybe more if you're under levelled so much that 2 Thunder claps don't kill all the zombies.
You run out of mana pretty fast with that, but you can take the 45 mana on q hitting a target and the q pierces one target talents. Then your storm bolt costs 60 but refunds 90 mana if you throw it into a minion wave.
Also I don't like unstoppable force because it relies on your ult being up. Also the 75% damage reduction with your mega buffed avatar max hp and the healing thunder clap spam makes you heal while being focused by the entire enemy team.
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>>125918229
shaking my head, everyone gave you a wrong answer
the only correct answer is Master Jaina of course
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>>125920320
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>>125918229
Succubus Kerrigan looks like a demon slut with thunder thighs.
i love it
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>>125920762
What rank are you? Stoneform is almost always better then Healing Clap and if you're bad enough to be zombie walled, let alone waste time trying to clap your way out of it, you should stop playing muradin altogether.
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>>125918910
But anon, 3rd tint Master Muradin is basically a bad goy's Magni Muradin
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>>125921241
well succubus's are kinda meant to be sluts that take your soul and seduce you....
>>125919980
I just got back into the game like a week ago after being gone for months so I know im bad.
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>>125921278
Um.
Healing clap is a lvl 13 talent, you're losing the 300% clap damage on single target/spell shield/ burning bronze for it
Stoneform is lvl 16, the anon I replied to gave it up for Dwarf Launch, go bully him instead.
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>>125918313
>>125918910
>>125921241
so now that we've established succubus kerrigan is the best skin, which tint is best?

i like the yellow crack whore looking tint
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>>125920320
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>>125917374
add her "getting hit" noises and you can become a professional porn maker on a tumblr blog
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>>125921785
purple duh
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>9 slots left for heroes on the select screen
>Greymane
>Tracer
Who are the last lucky 7?
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>>125922357
probably Fenix and a shit ton of warcraft heroes.
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>>125922357
tracer wont be in the next 9 heroes
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>>125922357
>implying Tracer is still planned now that overwatch is even more ded than heroes
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Anub / Cho'gall / Nova / Aba Vs. Cho'gall / Stitches / Valla / Jaina

Did I just get THE meme team?
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>>125921523
Just use your charge.
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>>125922839
>charging Lunara
Hahahaha!
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>>125922525
She absolutely will. Even if they keep up 1 every 3 weeks that takes us past the Overwatch launch date.
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>>125922617
>>implying Tracer is still planned now that overwatch is even more ded than heroes
you'd be surprised

Blizzard still thinks they're the shit and they're still working on Tracer

come June next year, they're gonna come out and be all TA DA! and realize that no one gives a shit anymore
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>>125922617
That's what happens when you release a game to 20 streamers and not anyone who actually cares.
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>If one team has support/warrior the other team will too
>My team has brightwing chen no assassins
>Their team has sonya tyrande kael raynor
maybe this game would not be ded if matchmaking wasnt fucking horrible
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>>125922617
>all the tracer porn out there
Maybe not that dead
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>>125920762
Terrible build
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>>125924525
its not like tye randy is an amazing solo healer or sonya an amazing solo tank
If you want meta match ups then play hl
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>>125923578
stale memes
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>>125924892
tyrande sonya solo are both fantastic against a team with no damage or heals
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Is Kerrigan any good?
How do I Kerrigan?
I might have made a mistake buying her
i'm pretty shit at kerrigan
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>>125925350
yes
gank people, hit your combo, don't overcommit
take assimilation talents and build up your shield before a fight
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>>125924525
Really need an unranked draft mode.

Hopefully when Arena comes in Jan it'll be a breath of fresh air.
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>>125925350
learn the kerrigan combo, its 90% of playing her. W -> E in quick succession. if you need to gapclose and you're not going to suicidally dive, Q first.

try not to sit in the fight like a bruiser unless maelstrom is active.

hitting stuff refreshes your shields. try to keep hitting stuff. even a single tap on a minion will prevent your shields from expiring.
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>>125925425
>Jan
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>>125925425
>unranked draft
what different does it being ranked make i want to play bad heroes without the rest of my team being bad in draft you will always be preasured to not pick something stupid or else your team will afk or rage quit
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>>125925617
pls blizzard
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>Someone in your team first-picks lunara
>You lose

How many times has this happened already?
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>>125925425
>Bronze Requests
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>>125925425
Arena comes out October 2016 bruh
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>>125926537
There is nothing wrong with being bronze. It's my team's fault when they dive 1v5 and lose games which prevent me from advancing.
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>>125925425
5 vs 5 abathur or morales
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Meet Jaina from my team
>match lasted 17:41
>hero dmg 4,675
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>>125925425
Not even close to January mate.
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>>125914598
I got to play Greymane in try mode and he seemed pretty fun to be honest family

him having a gathering power for attack damage might be nuts
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>>125925671
groups are the problem
no synergy trash vs pre-arranged friends
nobody will ever buy all the queue magic is fair and also many want a solo mode, which that would enable QM or HL to become

>>125927057
think he meant 2017
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>THE HUNT IS ON
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>No QT desert queen portrait
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>>125926659
This, never get hype for any blizzard game release ever, it will only make you a skeleton.
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>>125927974
Yeah, that's Lunara's quote when she readies up.
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>>125927367
his interaction lines are pretty good too
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/hero_pages/Greymane%20-%20Default.html
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>>125922357

There will be more than 7, they already have like 15+ planned or have some kind of files related to them already.
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Did you get your christmas stimpacks yet anons
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>Abathur evolution lines on each hero for casting heroics
>can't cast heroics
Neat.
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>>125929938
he was devolved
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>>125929938
He used to be able to cast heroics but then double Odin.Or double mosh pit.Or double dwarf punch. That one would be pretty funny.
But they already have the lines on some heroes, so if they ever decide to allow clones to cast ults again, they will have the voice lines ready. Hiring a voice actor to do one line still costs a lot of money, especially since blizz would really need that line.
There's a lot of unused lines.
Like the emote wheel lines.
bring it back pls
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>play vikings in QM to learn how to play them
>split across all 3 lanes, soaking
>take each camp when it's available
>top siege damage and exp damage by a massive margin
>our team loses anyways because it's always 4v5 at objectives
>our team's nova calls me "nova fuel" because enemy nova killed a grand total of 2 vikings the entire match, with my total death count being 2 (6 vikings)
>our nova has 8 deaths

am i a shitter? should i take the vikings to the objectives? if i do then i'm not soaking at the most important time. i just don't understand
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>Play QM
>Two players disconnect in the first 2 minutes
>Get utterly curb stomped
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>>125930756
>not instantly muting any nova players you encounter

what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>125930756
XP advantage doesn't really mean much anymore, the exception being lvl 10. You only get 4% hp/dmg per level so your soaking would have to get your team 6 levels ahead to have a chance in a 4v5 (you would have 4 teammates worth 1.24 of what every enemy is worth in theory).

On most maps the first objective can be abandoned without losing much, if the enemy gets the objective and it doesn't get them ahead in xp because of your soaking, it was worth it.

the first tribute does nothing, the first punisher won't get more than 2 towers and a gate unless your team gets wiped at the shrine.

Your job is to get your team to lvl 10 before the enemy and then help them use that advantage. Remember that play again gets your vikings together so you can soak with 2 vikings and send the third to the objective so you can teleport there if your team is in trouble. You can soak after 10 but you're better off helping your team at the objectives. Three Vikings auto attacking do quite a lot of damage. I
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>>125930756
obviously if you're playing with shitters you're a shitter. that's just matchmaking. the more you get away from the braindead raynor/muradin/lili characters the more you are going to be the first target for complaints.

even one viking would be helpful at objectives. 1 of your deaths isn't as big a deal as another character walking into something stupid.
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>>125927023
Next match:
>Cursed Hollow
>Hammer and Nazeebo ignored the first objective, so it was 3v5
>Nazeebo ignored the second objective, so it was 4v5
>Ilidan: 'Naz, why u no help us?'
>Naz: 'Fuck u! U shit! L2P! Imma soaking!'
>Ilidan: 'Halp us Naz, plx!'
>Naz goes alone against 4
>Naz: 'Fuck u all! Me dead now! Not helping u again!'
>spent half of the game in bushes or at spawn writing that Ilidan is shit without Morales
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In what situations can murky be a viable HL pick, assuming the enemy has only 1 cleanse?
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>>125932537
it really is like being in kindergarten again
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>>125932537
And just now:
>Towers of Doom
>Raynor keeps attacking their keeps
>dying to them
>ignoring objectives
>after a while he starts pinging our Lunara like mad sitting at spawn for 5 minutes
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>>125932848
This game gives me cancer. How do I get out of the bronze league?
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Finally, it was a long year, but I now own everybody!
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>>125929759
>That LiLi skin
W H E N ?
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>>125933010
Maybe next year.
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>>125932968
What's the point if you don't play the game?
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>>125932537
Pics or it didn't happen
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>>125932968
omg, i'm experiencing physical pain in my mylohyoid muscle just by looking at this picture
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>>125933010
ADULT THICK PANDA ASS LILI WHEN?
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>>125933689
Female chen?
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>>125935098
>>125933689
FILL EM FULL A' DAYLIGHT
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>>125935324
oh i will jimmy ;3
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Why is Chen 7k?
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>>125932968
Nigger what the fuck do you even play the game? Did it take you a year to save your allowance?
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>>125930586
double Hyperion was actually some bullshit let me tell you
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>>125935324
R A I D E R S
O
L
L
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>>125936308
>tfw missed out on alpha
>tfw forever beta
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>>125920320
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>>125918217

They don't want to do the whole 'New hero is overpowered, collect monies then nerf them' thing.

They're being way too on the cautious side though.
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>>125936645
>Typical rank 29 nova shitter
>No friends
>MFPT
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>>125937115
At least if they made them overpowered I'd play them for more than 2 days. Doing it this way just leaves me wondering why I'm playing when there's barely anything new.

I can't wait for them to implement Tracer in the most ass backwards way. She'll probably have less HP Abathur and ONLY be able to move through teleports or some shit.
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>>125936189
>>125935448
HIT EM HARD AND FAST
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>>125937568
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>>125935324

Jimmy, are you a vampire killer?
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>>125937001
johanna best girl
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FEEL THE HATRED OF 10,000 CHISELED ABS
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>>125939008
>drag to resize or shift+dra
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>>125939112
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>>125939202
>thank you, brother
>i will always be here for you
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>>125939349
>2015
>games still pandering to their fans
>perpetuate unrealistic standards of what a male body should look like

why are you still supporting shit like this?
>>
The jump ult on lunara against butcher is great, he can't stun you with his charge since you become unstoppable. It's really fun, I kept using the thrones because they are safer, but against dive teams the jump ult seems great for repositioning and getting out of bad situations.
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>>125939489
>illidan is best character in the game
>best character in the game has a hyper masculine body
>unattainable by real humans
>self esteems of millions of gamers crushed because they can never achieve this level of beauty physically
>millions die trying to get plastic surgery trying to attain this physique
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>>125939489
>A legendary hero who has done nothing wrong
>Is what the standard for everybody should be
Why are meninist so retarded?
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>>125939643
>continuing to play a game that's sexist and treats men like pieces of meat to be oogled at
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>>125939817
>>125939643
>>125939489
FEEL THE HATRED OF 10'000 YEARS
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>>125939817
>>125939643
>>125939489
>>125939349
>>125939202
>>125939008
Go away Illidan, nobody likes you
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>>125939817
>implying a true warrior would enter combat wearing such revealing clothing
>exposing his core and vital organs to the enemy
>no armor, no protection
>for the sole sake of fan service and pandering
>sexist as fuck
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>>125939971
if you play hots, you're part of the problem with gamers today, sexualizing and objectifying men with impossible ideals
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>>125939968
Maiev please lock me in your dungeon
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>Decide to go into HL for the first time since placement
>Have a fun match with actual teamwork and skill on both sides in which we win
>H-hey better queue again eh
>Say hi to everyone in the draft
>No answer
>At least 2 of the players have moonrunes for names
>Oh ok
>Get into game no one talking or pinging except me
>Suddenly our ETC starts swearing and shouting about his unplayable lag
>N-No my mmr
>We get teamwiped due to allies trying to take mercs instead of objective and standing in hyperion and phoenix
>They get Dragon and our core is down to 72% no forts left
>This is it
>Suddenly Zagara manages to land a maw and we wipe 3 of the enemy team
>we get dragon and push win
>meanwhile illidan dives our core and gets it to 40%
>HL is toxic
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>>125913294
They should make it the same cooldown as Tass's trait.
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>>125913294
Tyrande's d is perfection as is
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>>125920320
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>>125918229
He-hey
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>>125940421
Her a is pretty good too.
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>>125940367
They should unnerf the other supports instead of nerfing Tyrande
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>>125940473
>that chat
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>>125940678
They didn't touch the other supports except for Uther.
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>>125940685
Leave Sarah alone
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>>125940906
fuck me is that a shaved kangaroo?
are they all that fucking ripped?
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>>125940991
Yes
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>>125941210
that's terrifying as fuck
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>>125935750
ancient chinese secret
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>>125941274
Kangaroos are bastards.
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>>125940473
>Autistic meme poster
>In faggot youtuber's chat channel
>Only plays Raynor
Remember this is the type of person who makes bronze posts like "Raynor is op" or "Black arrow is broken"
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>>125940991
Yeah you wanna stay away from those Red Jimbuks m8 they'll ruin your day faster than you can say woolloomooloo
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>>125940906
>>125941210
>>125941274
>>125941540
>>125941564
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>>125941552
If you don't think Raynor is fucking amazing there is something legit wrong with you.
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>>125941564
how the fuck do they even build muscle? aren't they herbivores?
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>>125941552
>Only plays Raynor
>Nazeebo lvl 12
>KT/Muradin lvl 9

Raiders roll
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>>125940906
>>125941210
>>125941564
>Roo posting
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>>125941720
It's 2015 mate. There are a lot of vegetarians hitting the gym. They all drink protein shakes or some shit.
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>>125941552
Talk like that you're gonna see some more Jimmy posting
>>125941660
I can dig that
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>>125941564
Also for whatever reason animal muscles are better than our shit tier human muscles so that thing could probably out lift JJ Watt.
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>>125941951
>coldsteel hugs a muslim
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>get crushing hope at 13 and death march at 20
>get all my hands on entire enemy team during a teamfight
>they still focus me
>kill all of them almost instantly in a 2v5 with just me and kael
>mfw

Why is Leoric so cool?
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3 warriors left that i don't own, which one boys?
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>>125940531
Everything about her is perfection
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>>125942205
Leoric! He's the best!
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>>125940765
A long time ago they made half of Rehgar's abilities do nearly nothing and nerfed Malfurion's heroic
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>>125942205
go chen or go home.
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>>125930756
late reply
Early game ill split soak all three.
Then during first objective, ill split soak with Eric and Balog, and send Olaf to fight with the team at objective. After 10, ill start to group them together as a trio to help teamfight.
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>>125932968
Get on my level bruh
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>>125943524
>level 9 lunara
Grinding hard I see
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>>125928081
Where did this come from I would like moar please it causes funny feelings
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>rank 1
>own 20+ heroes
>nearly 2k games played
Is there any reason to keep playing this game? seems l milked all the fun I could have off it desu
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>>125945319
>Doesn't read the filename
>can't reverse image search

Damn man. How is it like, being a caveman?
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Does anyone actually play this game together?
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>>125946614
Playing with /hotsg/ just causes fustration and grief that I don't want to put myself through. Plus they just circlejerk and expect you to follow suit.

I normally play with irl friends and other friends from steam and back when I used to play league of casuals.
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>>125946614
I tried playing with vg once but they had unbearable lag.

Probably because they're all amerifags
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>>125946614
Haven't played with anyone here but play with a few guys I know irl.
Honestly I prefer to just solo que.
I have a friend who can never accept the fact that if he dies odds are it's his fault and it really pisses me off sometimes.
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>>125928081
>dem nips
I like it
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>playing azmodan, stacking solo
>enemy tassadar is being a piece of shit and shielding things I try to get stacks on
>generally playing super aggressive

>like 12 minutes in, have an ok amount of stacks considering how much of a faggot this tassadar was being
>push some fort while team is holding a DK shrine
>tassadar shows up and thinks he can still 1v1 bully me
>dunk his ass
>he pops his faggot invisibility
>he comes back to bully me again (wat)
>dunk his ass again
>his retard-safe procs
>enemy nazeebo comes out of a bush
>tassadar pops his ult, super low HP though
>oh no, a gank!

>dunk tassadar again
>he dies
>put a leash on nazeebo and he runs away

I'm so glad they fixed taste for blood, dumbfuck supports thinking they can 1v1 azmodan always make me laugh
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>Matched with a premade
>Oh boy here we go
>All 4 of them try to make epic roaming gank plays
>They fail end up dying more often than not
>They never soak xp
>By the time I get us to level 10 we're down 3 levels
>I manage to win 2 team fights by myself
>Equaled out on xp
>We have map control can win with the objective things are looking good
>One of them says to rush the core
>All 5 of the other team is alive
>We end up losing
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Why is Brightwing attracted to hot women?
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>>125947275
I just upgraded to 100mbs Comcast and I have i6-6700, 16gb ddr4, and gtx 980 strix w/ 4gb ddr5. No lag here. Just poorfags in this country, I'll admit.

>>125946774
Is it because they all meme? Can't be worse than Halo General 12 group games. Or do you mean circlejerk like waifu shit? I have a few friends who play this game but it's hard to ever play with more than 2-3 people at a time. I had a friends game of 5 only in closed beta.
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>>125950675
is bw a tuna diver
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>Somewhat new but I've got a handle of how the game plays
>playing as Butcher
>we slowly start to lose
>team blames me for "only taking damage talents"

This game is pretty different to LoL, but I guess some things never change.
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>teamfight
>web enemy solo tank
>squishies ripe for the taking
>artanis backs off
>he waits for tank to come out of web
>duels tank
>loses

so... this is the power of Hero League..
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>>125952289
~ le switchy cube man ~
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Why is Valla so perfect?

>Wrecks anuses in lane
>Wrecks anuses in team fights
>Good escape, good pursuit
>Yoga mat of stuns ult
>Push lanes like boss
>Focus down towers like mother fucker
>Topping enemy damage and sometimes siege
>Variant builds that are viable
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>>125952789
>dies when looked at
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>get 3 stacks of Lunara's dot on a low HP enemy
>their health bar is only the poison dot
>they waddle behind their gates
>realize their well is down
>not enough time to hearth
>watch them resign their fate and /dance

Feels great.
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>>125952789
>still countered easily
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>>125952789
I'd say she's one of the easiest countered assassins.
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>>125953238
>>125953435
Is this a new meme or something?
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>>125953140
>get 3 stacks of poison on low HP medic
>her health bar is only the poison dot
>she mounts up runs from away from her team in the opposite direction
>instead of chasing her wipe up the rest of her team
>her fucking trait activates just barely saving her
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>>125952789
>played exclusively by faggots
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Help, I can't stop playing Murky
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>>125953531
No honestly she's not that great and can easily be dealt with.
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>>125953531
Valla has zero survivability
She has one of the tiniest HP pools in the game and her only escape is shit, atleast falstads thing goes through walls and gives a shield
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>>125954158
>>125954345
Yeah

>>125953746
I was kidding about that though faggot
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>>125954345
That was going to be my argument.
whether q, w, or AA build i'd say falstad can do everything valla does but better.
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>>125954458
he can't chase as well, nor does he have the same sustained damage, but has better on demand burst
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>>125954458
Valla probably has a better trait than Falstad. It's actually pretty similiar, but she can maneuver even if she got hit by something.
Falstad has a great mount replacement that enables a lot of great plays and can act as an escape if you're smart about it however, so I personally don't see why you'd want to play Valla over Falstad
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>>125944775
Gotta get my new waifu to 10. I don't like a whole lot of the master skins in the game, but the third skin variation on Lunara's is pretty great.
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>>125955763
Falstad with a battle momentum/lifesteal build has much better sustain than Valla honestly
He's probably the most versatile assassin in the game. You can build him for very frequent burst, safe burst, sustained AA damage, sustained ability damage, AA burst...
He also lots of talents for survivability, and that's where Valla shits the bed. If Falstad decides he has to go full survivability, his damage may suffer a bit, but it's still pretty good. Valla really can't go for survivability without crippling her damage hard.
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>>125955889
>but the third skin variation on Lunara's is pretty great.
This nigga knows what's up.
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>>125920320
Takes longer to get to 10 than I remember even with this free stimpack
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>>125955813
Valla is cuter.
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rewind or and a shark too on lvl 20 murky?
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>Gank an illidan and valla with nova
>illidan jumps at me right away so I go ahead and fuck that guy to 50% HP
>our Nova pings the valla and shoots at her
>now both heroes are at 40% HP and just fuck off
nice
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>>125957237
Shark if you can secure them kills easy. Rewind if you wanna blow your load quick and get out of there.
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>Playing as murky
>Get rewind
>Got in a 1v1 situation against Zerataul
>Fuck, this kid thinks he can 1on1 me?
>Fish rewind Fish
>Bubble accidentally

FUCK!
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>>125942179
Doesn't Death March apply the untalented version of Drain Hope? It shouldn't apply Crushing Hope. 30% max hp damage to the entire team sounds pretty cool
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>>125942179
I wish death march was more useful than it is, or march in general.
I barely ever find any use for it. The wall is so good.
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>loading screen comes up
>these teams
>just fuck my shit up Blizzard
>end up winning
>how the fuck
>check enemy talents
Jesus

Also based Azmo for his unstoppable splitpush and 130k+ siege damage.
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>>125959860
I'm getting really tired of dumbfucks not knowing what a good comp looks like
Your team has a much much better comp than theirs, by a very long shot
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>>125959860
>2 specialists that are very good at pushing
>against illidan, thrall, nova and tyrande, morales
Honestly, depending on the map, it was a no brainer you could push like crazy without them being able to do much
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>>125960173
If only push strategies worked outside of bronze league
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>>125960078
Comp doesn't mean a whole lot in QM, and it's more about who has less retards. Forgive me if I lack faith in my team at the start of the match. Luckily Red team was the shortbus.

I was mostly worried about the Illidan with his Medic buttbuddy but she ended up getting too cocky and got murked in every fight. Her shining moment was when she panic Medivac'd to like 3 feet away after they failed to gank us at boss.
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>enemy team is level 10
>we're only very very slightly behind, going to hit 10 in a second as I'm soaking a wave
>tell our team to not engage, we'll have 10 in a sec
>team engages immediately
>4v5 without ultimates
>"why weren't you there? gg"
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>>125960265
Does azmodam work at high rating? Wich build if a specific one is required?
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What are the easiest heroes to play?
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>>125960452
Raynor, Lili, Leoric.
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>>125960452
Li Li and Kael'thas
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>>125960265
getting level 10 while they're level 8 works on all levels, friend
murky also becomes exponentially more powerful the longer the game goes on, while nova is damn near useless when behind
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>>125960407
If you can land his Q consistently he works fine. The key to the build are these two talents
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/azmodan#f-2G
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>>125960698
Allright thanks.
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>>125960371
My life as a specialist in a nutshell
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>>125959860
>ignore the comp
>that filthy nova build.
disguesting.
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>>125960330
>Comp doesn't mean a whole lot in QM
Didn't you just complain about the comp you were handed?
Even though it's much better than the enemies?
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>>125960973
When it's Nova v. Murky and Lunara I assume the worst is about to happen. Which is the part about comp not mattering because it's about who's more retarded.
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>>125960371
If you were going to hit 10 mid fight why not join them? It was a pretty safe bet that all of your team would blow their ults at the same time which would have made for a good fight (assuming people didn't pick ults that didn't work with each other)

What bronzies don't realize is that sometimes it's better to follow your team into a questionable situation than it is to let them all die just so you can proclaim to have made the correct decision.
Even if you guys weren't going to win that fight maybe being there would have prevented 4 people from dying. Good players can enter bad situations and come out on top, bronze players avoid acting until they have a decisive advantage.
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>>125961215
>nova vs murky
>the murky is at a disadvantage here
the fuck?
Nova can't solokill murky
murky can reliably force a kill on nova as soon as gathering power gets too high
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>>125961265
We weren't going to hit 10 midfight. I wouldn't have been soaking if it wasn't necessary to get level 10.

>it's better to follow your team into a questionable situation
I'm aware of this, but this wasn't a questionable situation. They were down a man and not level 10 yet. I specifically told them to not engage, as there was no need to fight just yet. This was just entirely pointless.

>Even if you guys weren't going to win that fight maybe being there would have prevented 4 people from dying.
You know what else would've prevented 4 people from dying? Waiting like 10 seconds until we hit 10 and I was there
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Lunara is cute AND fun.

Also when a brightwing is on your team, does brightwing say "you're pretty" to lunara? I thought I heard her say it, but wasn't really listening.
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>>125961431
Yeah, on Brightwing's soundfiles it's labeled as her intro with Nova, guess they decided to reuse it.
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>>125960452
raynor
>>power gap<<
valla, li li, zagara, muradin
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>>125961481
Oh okay, I guess I've never heard brightwing say that.
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>>125961420
Was engaging the enemy 4v5 the best call?
>probably not
Was not attempting to join the team when they grouped up the best call?
>probably not

The point is that if you're going to be mad at them for doing what they did then it's only fair that you be a little mad at yourself for what you did. Yeah maybe it was a little shitty of them to force your hand by making it essential that you show up to a fight you didn't want to fight but either you weren't paying attention to the team, which is bad, or your intentionally ignored them for their decision, which is bad.

The point is that you were both in the wrong. You can't be mad at the team for ignoring your suggestion and unfortunately you were in the minority which makes you look like an asshole, but they shouldn't really be mad at you for not showing up to a situation that they should have known was disadvantageous for themselves.
I still think you should have been there, but that's just my opinion.
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>Dps split push Malfurion
Not like I wanted to win or anything
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>>125962002
>Quick match
Literally why care at all
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>>125962094
Yeah why not just sit in your base all match and wait for the enemy to win? It's just quick match! Who cares!
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>>125962226
Quick match is garbage. I've been in plat rank since I started playing and once I switched over to strictly playing ranked I never looked back.
Occasionally I'll QM with friends but when I do I just play for shits and giggles because it's such a joke. It's always mismatched teams of heroes/player ranks and I always seem to get a specialist who never leaves their lane.

I was playing with some friends last week and of the 10 or so games we played together there was an abathur on our team every single match and only 1 was any good.
It's seriously just a training ground or a place to guilt free play heroes you've never played before.
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>>125961215
>Play as Murky
>Novatool on the enemy team
>Alternate egg placement between top and bottom fort
>Nova easter egg hunt on december while we take teamfights and immortals 4v5

It's that ez
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>>125962586
I'm not the guy or guys you're arguing with but murky is really bad. I don't play as nova but I play a lot of specialist/assassin and most of the time I don't bother going out of my way to find his eggs because he dies immediately to any kind of burst so I have no qualms with just sneezing on him to death any time he pokes his head out.

His only viable move is to ulti stun you into a puffer fish explosion and half the time that doesn't even work because all it takes is one ally being remotely near you to scare him away.
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>Uther takes divine shield and cleanse
>Doesnt use either once
Finally QM worked in my favor
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>>125963338
>uther looked at your team and thought "yeah cleanse is required"
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>>125963698
>what is murky web
kill urself bronze
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>>125961315
>nova can't solo kill murky
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>>125962586
>Playing as Nova v Murky.
>Burst him down and get an ez kill.
>He comes back same story same ending.
>Don't give a flying fuck about his egg.
>Just enjoying that sweet GP.
This is how one plays Nova Who is shit tier btw.
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>>125963729
i dont even play pvp. just saw the blue team and thought what cc? just one murky grab

if your gonna be a cunt. ill just continue to lurk
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>>125960674
>exponentially
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>>125957237
There is never any situation where shark is better. Rewind is way more damage if you can get a full combo off but even a partial combo is still a lot more damage. Anyone that recommends shark is bad at murky. See >>125957354. He is bad at murky and yet still gives advice. Ignore.
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>>125963796
>lvl 7 talent with 30s CD makes an entire hero basically worthless
Uh yep, any time there's a murky a support should take cleanse
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>>125961920
I don't think you understand
This wasn't one of these things where I stubbornly try to enforce my own strategy
I literally went away from lane for 20 seconds to soak for 10 and informed the team I will do so so we can have a 10vs10 fight

the team then immediately engaged without me

this absolutely wasn't one of these things you're imagining it to be
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>>125957354
>blow your load quick and get out of there
What? 90% of the time you ult you will die. Sharks damage stops when you die but your stun persists. A murky combo is 3300+ dmg and it doesn't matter if you die while ulting.

You are shit.
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>>125962494

>I've been in plat rank since I started

and you think you know shit
look at this guy
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>>125963765
She can't if the murky got block

if the murky didn't get block, he might aswell be playing for the enemy team anyways.

Here's how a murky vs nova matchup goes

>Nova is hunting murky all game for ez gathering power stacks
>Murky only dies to her if he's in a bad position and didn't see her coming, so relatively rarely and not much more than any other hero would have
>any other hero however would have given full XP and wouldn't respawn in 5 seconds

>Murky regularily octograbs Nova for an easy kill on her whenever she's getting too many stacks

I mean shit, at level 20 murky can comfortably kill nova aslong as she's not with enough people who may kill his pufferfishes. Probably the best nova counter.
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>>125947275
>>125946774
There's a top tier of /vg/ players that will carry or at least consistently play well. senjinn is not one of them.

Then there's tier 2 of players that I personally have them on, they can fill ok but barely play HL so they are mechanically weak and are not even rank 1.

Then there's the rest who are the bottom of the barrel that can't figure out how to win or get good and cry bronze tears and mmr hell.

I like to believe that there are people who 'get it'. There are those who 'get it' faster, more often, and 'get it' when it comes to complex strategies and drafting. It's when you 'get it' you really start to get a handle on how to win more games percentage-wise despite bad picks and bad players.
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should i level crit or blade flurry at level one for 3k mmr jug games? I rarely get gone on or ganked/harrassed often enough for blade flurry to save me or get kills because my support inevitably has no idea what a stun is. I'm thinking I should just get crit and right click the offlaner until he fucks off. But everyone apparently thinks blade flurry is a must have skill even though I can just get it at 3 and be perfectly fine.

Thoughts d2g?
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>>125965003
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>>125965003
crit
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>>125964486
is block the mandatory level 1 talent? if there's no AA hero, can I get move speed bubble or bribe instead?
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>>125965003

start boots press q win
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>>125965003
>crit for lasthits
hello 1k mmr
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>>125964486
She still can solo kill him. If she didn't get AA shells for example. I am lvl 14 murky and I agree that it is very easy to kill nova with murky but she can still kill you easily.

>>125965492
Block is best most of the time. I never take breeze. Only time I consider bribe is in maps with the summoning bruisers because you can easily take them solo by bribing just the middle minion. I heard assault egg is actually decent although I haven't tried it yet. Apparently the vision it gives is huge but I don't know
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>>125965492
Bribe usually works out well on maps like sky temple, haunted mines, battlefield of eternity and especially blackheart bay where you can steal a merc camp on the other side of the map to force them to abandon lane to defend.
But really, block makes you so much tankier even vs spell heroes
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>play a game vs the butcher as gazlowe
>wait until I hear the butcher charge
>smack down a grav bomb
worked everytime
one time it even worked without the grav bomb, I just put a stun bomb down and he charged into it

You'd think he would eventually stop charging in
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>>125965492
Additionally, most important is your role from lvl 1-10. Tell your team you won't be going to objectives until youre level 10. So tell them to stall the objective as much as possible without dying. Then as they are stalling you soak two lanes. Slime pufferfish slime then horse to other lane and repeat. You can get a 2-2.5 lvl advantage doing this if your team doesn't feed. At 10 immediately set up a kill and go back to soaking two lanes and try to steal their mercs. At 13 it becomes much easier to steal mercs. Standard pufferfish build usually but on dragon shire depending on who I am laning against I may get slime advantage. You're very strong against slow attacking heroes like diablo and muradin if you take block. So slime advantage just shits on them
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>>125966018
Level 12 Nova.
Yeah I don't know what this guy is smoking it's not hard to kill the fish as her.
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>Rehgar with a skin on our team
>oh neat, hopefully that means he knows the her-
>thinks he's the frontline and runs in to bite people then gets killed every single time there's a shrine so we're left trying to get it 4v5 which we almost do but never quite
>eventually build up a substantial level disadvantage after the third time of this happening at the shrine
>look at stat board
>his kad is 0/0/7

Was that the new james bond? because that rehgar sure was a dumb nigger
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>>125966174
>solo ulting butcher
Seems like a good trade
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>>125967312
maybe he thought shotgun wolf was good
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>>125939489
Mandatory dadbod illidan skin when?
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>>125967319
The rest of their team was ranged and mostly had escapes

I don't think you quite realize how shit grav bomb is before 20, unless it's aimed directly ontop of you, you can just walk out of it. And good luck aiming it directly ontop of ranged heroes without set-up stuns or telegraphing it heavily, it's a melee range spell
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>>125967463
>not creating space with a zoning grav bomb
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>Kael disconnects
>bot still kills everyone
le balanced salami man
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>>125966018
Chu is using assault egg right now
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>>125919025
there is no skin preview
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>>125914598
>Playing melee with poke, but no self sustain.
>When you could be playing thrall with both.
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>>125968476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSe84wKrCMc
wut
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>>125966174
>You'd think he would eventually stop charging in
lmao bronze league lmao
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>>125967635
What do you think happens when I grav bomb a butcher who just engaged and the rest of their team hasn't yet? Do you think they walk into it?
There's your zoning with an added 1 dead butcher
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>>125968590
Diamond according to hotslogs
it goes to show that there's dumbfucks in every bracket
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>>125968697
every rank not masters is basically bronze
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>>125968620
>falling for meme bait
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>>125968734
I think Thisigia would probably disagree with you on that
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>>125968734
>not even in grandmasters
wood league pls go
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>>125968734
>t. badinum player
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>>125967724
>Falstad disconnects.
>Fly's into sky temple objective 1v5.
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Stealth heroes were causing a lot of controversy in the starting phase of Hots. A lot of playes did quit because of that toxic heroes. I know, you can counter them and others, but Blizzard, You've lost tons of player because of stealth heroes. They are extremely unfun and toxic to play against as a new player, and it causes new players to quit.
My question is, how do you want to acquire new players if they quit the game after playing versus stealth heroes ?
My opinion is that you've ruined the game for yourself releasing this type of a hero (permament stealth). It has a blur, indeed. But it takes practice to get used to it, and new players often don't want to play much - unless they get sucked into the game. And that only happens if they don't rage at their starting phase.
Now Hots contains only alpha and beta veterans. Majority of new players nowadays and before left because of this toxic type of hero. Just my 50 cents. I dont want #nerf nova #nerf zertaul, but you might want to adjust the stealth mechanic as it is reducing your player base constantly. Thanks.
PS : I have 2000 games played, rank 1 in hero league
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how does valla's strafe actually work? the only info i could find was:
>does X total damage, split across available targets
>the X damage is split across Y individual shots, which are distributed cyclically to available heroes, or non-heroes if there are no heroes available
>can go through any object, but vision is required to do damage

does it always rotate through available targets, or does it repeatedly hit the closest one? is there anything that increases its frequency of hitting a single target, other than having only that target in range?
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>>125969307
This is the one game where stealths aren't actually invisible, just a little harder to see
and this dumbfuck is still mad about it
goddamn shitters
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Why do people obsess over globe talents when the scaling changes made them shittier? Tassadar's main meme build always starts with Conjurer's and I can't understand why
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This is Jim-bob
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reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3xkp9j/top_rated_na_player_5stacks_with_a_player_that/
haha
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>>125969307
I can't tell if this ones from battle.net forums or Reddit
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>>125969307
if you aren't looking at your surroundings for Nova or Zeratul, you deserve to get ganked.
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>>125969307
I honestly fucking hate playing stealth games. You have to play an entirely different game. Which isn't bad or good in and of itself, having to counter-play is fine. But it's still frustrating.

That's why we need bans though. Is Nova frustrating enough to ban instead of some top tank or healer?
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>>125970361
proof only autistic losers care about mmr and mmr is a flawed system
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>>125941720
>Only meat has protein.
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>>125948629
Nazeebo should easily 1v1. He just has to dodge the globes, you must be playing in bronze tier.
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>>125953835
Getting off a murky stint is hard, he can carry a lot of games.
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>>125957237
If you against loads of squishies with a kt or something Shark too is fine but you should get good with the double puffer octo combo it's broken.
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>>125972185
Nazeebo absolutely can't 1v1 a black pool azmodan with march of sin and fast globes, and that's the standard build.
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>being healer bitch
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>>125972185
>dodge the globes
>globes
>nazeebo 1v1ing an azmodan living through an entire globe cooldown
>nazeebo being able to dodge a globe at close range

The fuck is this shitter fantasy? Maybe with the old scaling and old OP as fuck corpse spiders he could
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new on murky, should I help on first few objectives or completely disregard team and just soak until level 10?
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>>125958453
Good if they're clumping together a lot. I use it more than entomb and it works out well for me. I only pick the drain hope upgrade if we're going for a final team fight though.
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>EP 6 where?!
>ep 3-5 eng subs where?!
Fucking cliffhangers.
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>>125972649
Holy shit, never disregard objectives. Murky just has low HP balanced by the respawn time and low xp give. But he also has one of the best defensive abilities in the game in his E, and damage you can't ignore with his other abilities.

A good murky balances being annoying as fuck and taking hits for the team. It's much better someone blow you up than your teams Jaina or whatever.

As with all split pushing you do it when it's appropriate. Did you guys already lose the team fight? Is your choice trickle in and die or split push, then split push? But please don't throw the fight in the first place to enable your split pushing.
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bets?
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Gonna get a second specialist, I already have Zagara (with her QT desert skin)
Next one I can't decide between Dead Elf Whore and You'll Never Be Edmund Duke But Nice Hips
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>>125973464
Tank Grill
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>>125973464
Sylvanas because she's actually good
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>>125973408
En taro Tassadar
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>>125973839
hammer is much better than sylvanas nowadays.
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>>125973464
Murky.
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>>125973839
In my 1500 games of HotS I've legitimately never played against or with a good sylvanas, it's always the worst player on the team.
And it seems Blizz knows this too, because they give you Sylvanas for free if you get recruited by a friend. It's the designated noob hero.
>hurr hold down buttan
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>>125974038
Their Uther didn't take cleanse. Their nova is so-so (died facechecking a bush into a surprise pufferfish) and out Abathur was good. Or maybe KT is just ez
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>>125974376
Yeah I've never thought about Sylvanas actually helping win a game. They're shit in team fights apart from the Silence but most don't even fire it well. It also requires very high levels of coordination from your team.
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>>125974821
The only thing Sylvanas is really good at is helping your team push by stunning a fort and clearing creep waves semi-effectively.
Her waveclear is far from the best though and with a proper push you really don't need the stun on the fort.
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>>125974768
>RANK 20
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>>125968476
>>125968515
oh shit my bad
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>>125975456
It's okay mang
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>>125975230
Most people posting their games here are super low MMR. CommanderITF is like 2100 MMR
the only exceptions I know of are thisigia and some guy named impqu or something
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>>125974376
I'm rank 1 and I've seen plenty of good sylvanas. With with the wind + evasive fire, a good sylvanas is very, very hard to catch unless you have good coordination to chain stun her
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>>125975661
>I'm rank 1
the fact that you're saying this like it means something already tells people that you have no idea what you're talking about, just FYI
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>>125975742
How is rank 1 any less indication of experience than "1500 games played"? You could be a shitter with 2500 games played too. Are you seriously arguing sylvanas is bad? she fits in all compositions, is good for kiting and her ult is decisive
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>>125975579
>tfw gold in HL but plat in QM
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>>125975829
I wasn't using it as an indication of experience mate. I was just saying I've played 1500 games and I've never seen a good sylvanas in them, but plenty of other good players. Make of that what you will.

You however used your rank 1 like it somehow gives you authority on the argument while saying stupid shit. Like needing to chain stun a sylvanas. Get the fuck out of here, you need a second of stun at most to kill her as the only survivability talent she has is spell shield which is a bad idea to pick because she needs evasive fire.
If you somehow fucked up when picking heroes and decided to go for heroes with such absurd low damage that you can't kill a sylvanas, the squishiest hero in the game, you usually have enough CC to just stop her from using the teleport to her wave.

I'm not saying Sylvanas is bad, I'm saying other heroes do what she does much better and she's only played because of how low the skillcap on her is.
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>>125975579
I know this is the most pathetic excuse in the book but I just dont want to grind it out desu, If I want a proper competitive environment I'll go fuck off back to dota2. Nowadays, I just want stressless games.
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>>125976007
You're saying that like plat isn't sub 3k MMR

If your MMR is lower than 3k it's probably your first game in the genre
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>>125976297
I'm 3100 MMR and I play on US from the EU and treat this as a babby game I play because I don't have time for 60 minute dota matches anymore.

You're implying like you could grind your MMR up if you wanted to. Like you could improve your winrate if you just grinded.
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>>125976319
Yup. Not that guy but in the same position. Didn't even do training and didn't know I was on mass loss streaks until Hotslogs.
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Anyone else in EU have shitty ping?
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>>125976427
Okay you're good, I'm bad.
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>>125975661
>using rank 1 as a crutch
god damn wearin it like a badge. At least you've got guts to get r1 unlike alot of people here.
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Alright I need help. What's the best way to level a character to 10? I'm stuck at 8 and the fucking grind is real.
I have Stim and Friend XP
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>>125975579
>doesn't know senjinn
Can I slap your ass new guy?
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>>125976713
No, I'm far from being good. I'm a casual in this specific game.
I'm just saying you're probably actually handicapped if you're that far down
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>>125977018
Why are people such cunts in MOBAs? Do people actually think they're worth something outside of this game because of 4k MMR? It's probably just 4chinz I guess.
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>>125976876
>senjinn
>high mmr
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>>125976876
I played against Senjinn twice this week, his diablo is terrible. Won both games and taunted him a lot. He keeps stacking with supports, too.
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>>125977240
Do you have links to those games?
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>>125977162
But he's 3100 MMR. His statements matter :)
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>>125977162
These threads are filled with overcompensating faggots who think that having Rank 1 is the prerequisite to voicing any opinion on anything, deny the MMR being horribly front-loaded, and denying the simple fact that you can't carry shitters- one retarded teammate will cost you games.
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>>125977162
>outside of this game
What's outside of the game? What, other games?
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>>125977321
Just check his hotslogs for diablo losses I guess, I don't know if they're in there though
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>>125977162
If you're referring to me, I only bring my own MMR up if people brag about being rank 1 or about being gold or plat or some shit like it means something.
I'm a 100% casual player and I'm in master. I don't even know when objectives spawn where besides obvious stuff like the 50 second chest on blackhearts bay. That's how little of a fuck I give.

If you're lower MMR than me and think you're a good player then you're absolutely not because I'm not a good player by any measure.
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Brightwing is OP as fuck, not joking.
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>>125977869
He's probably among the 5 weakest heroes in this patch, together with anub and the ogre bros
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>>125977162
You're the 2k MMR in a 3-4k MMR player game ruining it by not listening, not taking advantage of 4v5s when you see someone top, not shoving lane when everyone's conveniently there and giving up too easily.

It's players like you that can't see that even though you are down 10-11, it's still winnable because there players on the other team just a little bit better or a little bit worse than you that will fuck up just the same.
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>>125977869
Your like 5 patches too late.
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Tfw rank 19 after placements.
Well at least tank 19 should be somewhere in the top 50%
now I can disregard everything unranked/lower ranked. people say.
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>over 3 minutes to find a single quick match solo
nice alive game, faggots.
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>>125978565
Being top 50% of a pile of shit is still just the top part of the pile of shit
You want to be the fly that has evolved from the maggots in the shit that flies out and explores the world
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Is there somewhere with a list of the release dates for all the heroes?

>>125978590
You should see games with real matchmaking
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>>125978191
I'm not that guy, I am 3k MMR. I went down to 1.5k MMR when I first started for a while because this was my first MOBA. People still don't do anything like your saying in my games, even at 3k MMR. Also 10-11 isn't a talent tier difference I don't know what you're going on about there.
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>>125978656
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nd5Md087JRTWj5RLT8OyGf2JJHgzM3YV-K2iYaM1pOo/edit?pli=1#gid=0
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Has anyone gone through the trouble of trying Greymane? Is he going to be another in the long list of shit heroes in a row?
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>>125979145
He felt underwhelming compared to Lunara at Blizzcon, don't know if they made any changes.
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>>125979145
Commander Is The Feeder tried him I think, said he's good but with his advice you might want a grain of salt
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>>125979654
Everyone's good in try mode, just ask Gazlowe
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>>125964418
The point is QM is a joke. I half ass quick matches and I'm still platinum.
But who cares, you're probably bronze
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this game doesnt go beyond 20% gpu usage why?
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>>125979478
I don't understand how he could be worse than Lunara.
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>>125980302
Lunara's damage got nerfed she was pretty strong at Blizzcon.
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Lunara is a niche hero. She's the only hero whose damage is solely based around poison which is hugely advantageous when used correctly. She has a permanent 20% speed boost so she can just dance in and out of combat to refresh her dots.

She's not my favorite hero either but don't call her shit just because you don't understand how to play her.
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>>125980607
the problem with Lunara is that her counters are all popular heroes anyway, of course a hero looks bad when she gets shit on by Raynor, Kael'thas, Nova, Morales, etc
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>>125979884
CommanderITF actually managed to die in try mode, he jumped over the gate on accident
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>>125978647
I wanna be the very best. What's the highest rank you can get after placement games anyway? I had 11 wins out of 20 games. Can you get rank 1 by winning 20/20 placements?
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>>125980414
>she got nerfed before she ever had a chance to shine
truly, suffering.
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>>125980607
Her niche is "games you don't mind if you lose." She can't dance in and out of combat because her range isn't long enough. If she can hit a ranged hero they can hit her. And they'll deal more damage. If they have a ranged stun she dies before she can "dance" away.
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episode 3 is up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJMvwRVgTsM
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>>125981535
BIG TITS VALLA AND DOMINATRIX KERRIGAN WHEN?
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>>125981535
I need that Slash ETC skin.
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>>125981535
>Stitches trying to cut Nova's tits off and eat them
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>>125982003
Why does Kael look like someone forgot the flush the toilet after taking a shit?
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>>125983180
Stitches shit on him.
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>>125980803

I didn't jump over the gate, I jumped INTO the gate!

Also, here's some gameplay tips for Greymane that may or may not be effective

Your main powerspike is at 13. This is where you get your 30% speed bonus once Inner Beast is active for 3 seconds. With Viciousness at 1 Inner Beast lasts 4 seconds and resets timer on ability damage, easily letting you evade many tough spots.

Your siege damage is surprisingly high if you can get in Worgen AAs on things, and your Disengage and movement speed at 13 are good for getting away once you think they're rotating for you.

Be very careful if you pick TLV or Murky into Greymane, or if they still have a slot open for an assassin! His 7 ability, Wizened Duelist gives him +3% basic attack damage for each takedown he takes part in, up to 30% but these stacks are lost on death. Consider taking Greymane AND Murky/TLV in the same pick turn if you want to be safe.

Greymane works best in a double tank comp, especially alongside Raynor and Kael'Thas who also benefit from the same thing. It gives him a solid front line to attack behind, and much more relative safety if he can jump in as Worgen form.

With his fast AAs and strong Q, he does a good job of clearing out waves and Murky puffa fish, and with his higher HP compared to other assassins, he's a strong check to specialists like Azmodan and Zagara. Not as good versus Gazlowe of all things, whose turrets are bulky enough to live through a Q even at 16.

Against Jaina, KT and Nova, positioning is key. You do not get Spell Shield or Bolt, instead an extra 1K HP at 20 compared to heroes like Raynor. You also do not get Giant Killer, instead Alpha Killer at 16 which once they fix it, is 3% bonus HP damage on Worgen AAs. However well he fares against heavy tanks is yet to be seen.

With the enhanced range, your Q is able to hit enemies from completely out of their vision range. Use this alongside tactical movement to confuse enemies on your location.
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>>125984341
It seems like he's going to be played in Worgen form most often in a pure AA build. Human/abilities are for poke and running.
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>>125982610
that was fucking brutal. I've never gone from "Wow I like this shit" to "Never mind, fuck anime" so fast.
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>>125984989
it seems like you're a fucking cucked idiot. human form best form, retard.
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>>125981668
I can dig that
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>>125985121
tbf, it was her clone
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With Zagara, nydus or mawl?
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>>125985763
nydus on large maps where your team has good CC

maw everywhere else
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>>125985140
Sure mate. You've obviously never played him.
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>>125981535
That video sucked. I cant believe you failures watch this shit. Dialogue was attrocious (but its asian so thats to be expected) the story line was nothing short of non existent. What stitches eats nova while she obsesses over her self worth for no purpose to the story? The only thing that was mildly interesting was the animation, and even that is being generous. Im disappointed in you hotsg
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>>125986356
you've obviously sucked big dicks every night for the past three years right before they enter your wifes vagina.
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>>125985883
Ok, thanks :)
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>>125987267
if you're taking Nydus, warn people early
don't be a dick and wait until the level 10 engagement to be all
>hurr, btw, i'm taking nydus
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>>125987364
Yeah, I usually tell my team wich ult I take, even if its the most common one
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>tomb of the spider queen
>turn 50 gems in
>get a spider donut
>no webweavers
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>>125987364
Maw is always a safe pick. Always. Potential 4-5 man stasis is game changing for wombo combo teams. Nydus is ok on some maps in some situations but 99% of the time maw is a better pick.
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>>125987645
Go back to the undertale general if you don't want to have a bad time
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>stop playing when Cho'gall came out
>come back
>Lunara had only just now been released
>no bikini Li Li skin

no wonder this game is dead
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>>125988030
>being a furfag
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So I don't play this game for maybe a month or two, and every match has at least two LT medic cunt. All the games are decided on how close together the team stays while the medic pretty much stops them from dying full stop.

Utter fucking joke that one class can just hide behind the entire team and win the game for them. Is there any counter that doesnt actually require teamwork? Because that doesnt seem to work for the people im matched with.
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>>125972454
>killing people
step up your healing bitch game, nigga
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>>125988185
She has like 30 HP. Just nuke her.
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>>125987817
Welp, I'll just use both as I've been sugested and I'll figure out my strategies and shit
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>>125960371
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>>125988185
Ranged stuns.
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>>125988256
I can't even get close enough to her. Im sick of QM, I only play on the hope that Ranked is less of a cluster fuck
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>>125988224
>thinks doing less damage is better
I know this is bait but its so bronze it hurts.
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>>125988602
Nah, ranked is shit. QM is generally more fun.
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>tfw someone sends a friend request after a game
>tfw you have "Only allow Friends to whisper to you" enabled
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>>125988750
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What to pick at level 16 for brightwing?

There seem to be pretty convincing arguments for each.

Mostly I take vulnerability on sheep for extra burst.
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After a lovely victorious match we've been winning the whole time, Ray decided to add for no reason that my Zagara build makes him @#$!. This one.

http://www.heroesnexus.com/builds/3513-ultimate-solo-push-build

After I explain my winrate with Nydus Network Zagara is 70% the last month in HL, he adds "vs tard".

I'm sorry if being Rank 10 and still with Silver MMR doesn't put me next to the pros out there, but when I win after being 3 levels down, when I win two double-spec, no heal games on the Battlefield of Eternity with my Zagara and a Hammer flaming all game (yes, that exact thing happened twice), or when we win in less than 13 minutes in Team League with 5 specialists, again twice, I really can't take seriously all the wisdom of 'top tier only' gamers. If you can call them gamers.

Next time you flame, feed or AFK because you rubbed your magic crystal ball and it linked you to HotsLogs, or reminded you of that one time you lost with Aba and as such hate him, keep your dumb mouth shut and play. And if you win, don't whine about how you should have lost because you're the best and the rest are niche idiots that didn't get Kael and Jaina.
Also don't use that 'these things don't work at higher ranks' argument. The more I play, and rise in ranks, the stupider it becomes. Please don't sweat it. Even if my MMR was Master across the board, you would still disagree. Wouldn't you, really? I mean, Maw is too good to pass up, and Gazlowe is out of the meta, so what if a Master MMR player uses Nydus, he could be lying, or be very lucky.

How cute. You'll figure this out. You always do.

Of course, this post isn't for you, it's for those like me, who sometimes get confused and believe these are actual arguments, which limits their game. Nothing to explain to sheep. Actual gamers out there, don't be afraid to be competitive and creative at the same time.
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>>125990707

Okay this one is definitely copypasta.
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>having a laugh with someone about gazlowe
>he instalocks gazlowe
>realise he was being serious the whole time
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>>125990873
welp, enjoy your defeat, at least you got some laughs out of it
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>>125990873
Never assume your team isn't braindead.
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>>125990873
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hmmmmmm
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>>125992026
Enjoy your win
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>>125992026
Solid team and 4 man group
This should go well
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>>125992026
Team has no damage, you already lost
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>>125992120
>>125992271
mmmm kinky
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>>125993141
>Raynor, Zagara, Monk, Anub'arak, Muradin
>No damage
dude, wtf
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Just buff Brightwing's flare and she'll be where she needs to be. Right now it's probably one of the hardest skill shots, with zero reward.

One of two things.

1 - Remove inner circle, full damage all around, allies inside of Flare are healed for 75% of it's damage.

This give her an early game heal on demand.

or

2 - Increase flare range and radius, give it global range and allow it to do 50% extra damage to minions

This would allow her to soak more efficiently. Right now she can't clear a wave-fast enough before objectives pop, making her soak less effective. This will allow her to function slightly more as a specialist.
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>>125993819
Gaz does more damage then both Monk and Zagara combined.

Only damage on your team is Jim and he only does sustained damage, which isn't worth shit.
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>>125993819
>>125993147
>>125993141
>>125992271
>>125992120
everything went better than expected
interesting strat i've never seen before on BHB

Zag would solo both top lanes, while everyone else roamed bot, ganked hella frequently, and took the camp

after the mid forward fort fell, they ganked bot over and over, and even went as far as getting both siege camps to shove bot super hard

pretty neat
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Is there any science on how to push minions as a non-aoe champ?

Say Raynor, should I help the minions break the front line first, or kill the back line, or mage?
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>>125995886
you Q the line of minions as they come to you and W your own minions
holy shit how hard is it to play a tutorial hero
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how does nazeebo's gargantuan AI work?
i was attacking the core, with zero enemy heroes or minions in sight, and the gargantuan was just walking backwards towards my base, like he was chasing a fucking butterfly
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>>125970921
it's not flawed when everyone plays the same game
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>>125995886
q them whille they're in a line
kill the mage (weakest)
then the archer (second weakest)
finally the melees (most hp)

>>125996330
body guard, prioritizes heroes, then minions, then structures

it doesn't really give a shit about the core though
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>>125996301
Making aoes, effective on minions is obvious. You hit all of them. I'm talking about after your push move has been blown. What is the most efficient order of individually killing the minions?

Try not to "win" every conversation in your life, it makes you sound like a sperg.
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>>125996478
I really hate/love Gragantaun

When he decides to at least REEE into the enemy team it's fine. Half time him just decides to slap Zagara's roaches or some bullshit.
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>>125996330
>how does nazeebo's gargantuan AI work?
it fucking doesn't. Unless you need to jungle a shit ton, or the enemy team has so many stuns that getting Spirit off is impossible, use Spirit or better yet, stop playing Nazeebo, he's shit now
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Should I be topping hero damage with Jaina? Because I feel like I should but I don't
So any tips for gitting gud?
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>>125997034
>he's shit now
why?
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>>125997339
what does he offer to the team besides a moderate amount of damage and maybe a single CC?
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>>125997745
Spiders and frogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEf156Aih0Q
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>>125997339
nerfs and scaling changes took his spiders from one of the best skills in the game to literally useless. He's basically an easier to kill and mechanically worse Stitches in that he's only good for CC'ing and hoping your team follows up
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>>125997949
That would explain why I haven't seen a nazebo in weeks.
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>>125994543
Nice game then, yay
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>>125969326
Hits everyone in range for the duration
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>>125994543
>never seen that strat
Bronze confirmed. That is standard BHB
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I can't fucking stand Morales and the fact that you need to focus her stupid ass.
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>>125995886
I always kill the archers first because they do the most dmg to your creeps
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>>125997301
Yes.

Set up with Q to get them chilled. Pre root talent (almost always get root talent) follow up with blizzard then E. After you get root talent at 16 start with Q then E then blizzard.

Always get ice block
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>>126000841
Isn't the vulnerability better at 16?
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>>125995886
>Is there any science on how to push minions as a non-aoe champ?
So the Archers do the most damage
The Knights have the most HP
the Mages... have less HP than archers and less damage than knights.

So how you approach the situation depends on your needs:
Are you farming Health Globes? Kill that mage asap.
Are you trying to get the most dudes to your enemies towers? Kill the archers first.
The third choice is interesting, you can kill the Knights first if you want your minion wave to suffer the most casualties possible. Why would you do that? Deny them xp Soak. If you know you're not going to even try pushing their gate, you don't need minions to hit it and immediately get pushed back by an enemy hero.

One last note that was more relevant to LoL than here. But you can "snowball' a minion wave by killing the archers and letting your minions take care of the high HP knights on their own.. You'll lose a knight or two in the process, but it buys time for the 2nd wave to join up with the 1st.
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>>126000987
The root is good too
More utility
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>>126001063
Wait, the mages do the least damage? For some reason I always thought they did the most
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>>126000987
Root is better almost always. You can't do damage if you're dead
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>>126001779
Yeah they seem like the most important since there is just one of them. The archers are where the majority of a waves damage comes from.
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>>125997339
He went from being an absolute engine of destruction, 1v5'ing fights with an unnerving consistency, to being utter dogshit because blizzard gave him several sessions of nerf bat abuse over several patches.
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Summer-fun Bikini Jaina skin when?
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>>126002227
Probably not in December
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>>126002227
Hopefully soon we've waited far too long
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>>126002301
>>126002496
I feel like Blizzard isn't taking full advantage of cast of attractive females.
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>>125997339

No mobility
Scales like shit, Death Ritual indirectly nerfed because of it
Tyrande #1 and fucks over Ravenous Spirit with calculated efficiency unless you take Gargantuan who has the same intelligence as the average /v/ poster
Only does pisspoor sustained damage which is often 'useless' damage easily healed up, see also leaping spiders nowadays
Questionable siege damage for a specialist

but on the other hand, lol he throws spiders haha xD dude carbot animations lmoa
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>>126002034
Too bad.

>>126002905
Yeah I remember when they remove sprint that was a huge blow.
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>>126001063
Underrated post
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>>126002810
They're scared of being labelled misogynists by fat gamer whales that played hots for 3 games but are HUUUUGE fans that would be devastated by such misogynistic bikini skins on any attractive female characters.
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>>126003341
>underrated
>barely 30 mins old
>10 posts ago
>basic information that anyone who has any experience playing assfaggots would know
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>>125942205
If you go Rexxar, enjoy hoping your other Warrior isn't a complete fucking idiot, or if you're solo, enjoy just getting dived on because Rexxar is as squishy as a fucking Kerrigan for some reason.
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>>126003529
Now now, you can be pretty too.
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>>125960484
>>125960514
>>125961743

>easy heroes

>Kael'Thas
His abilities and trait have to be chained in a very specific way to deal his awesome burst damage, if you don't know what you are doing you are just a mediocre cleave damage dealer who gets instantly punished with death for bad positioning
>Valla
Pretty easy as long as you resist the temptation to use Vault/Bolt to chase; hard to master though
>Li Li
Very easy, just play with a lead on your Q right? Except you will be always healing the wrong target like that and it's difficult to make use of her amazing (for a support) damage potential
>Zagara
You can fuck up bad with her by playing her like an assassin and forgetting you really have no mobility when on creep; she requires a good map sense to know when it's right to help your team fight and secure kills and when it's best to stick at your specialist job
>Muradin
Using his skills is pretty easy, mastering their use at the right moments not so much. Waste his stun and clap and he's just a dumb moving rock; not recommended to people who jsut startedand are still in the mindset of throwing everything at the first moving target they see
>Raynor
Okay, alright, this is good, just take Marksman and Giant Killer and right click to victory
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>>126002020
Do the mage bruisers do more damage than the Melee ones, or was I misinformed about that, too?
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>>125962094
How would you know it was QM from a screen? If there's a way I'm a retard for not seeing that
>>125962226
>>125962494
QM is a place to try out that hero or build that has no place in Ranked but seems fun to play. It's useless to rage at Malfurion ps or Li Li Serpent Queens or Kharazim with 7 Sided Strike or whatever.
Anyway the level of players in QM is generally so low that a group of good players can squeeze out a victory even from full retard compositions / talents.

Also, is that plat rank thing a reference to hotslogs? If so kill yourself.
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>>126003378
They'll embrace it eventually.
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>>126004240
two vallas
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>>126003378
It could be worse. In WoW the tumblerinas actually got Blizz to completely cover up Sylvanas in leather in her latest model. We still got that sexy bared midriff.
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If only there were a reference to the whole "Hush, Tyrande." debacle with Malfurion, in his dialogue. I still can't believe that stupid shit.
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>>126003378
Just because a grrl gamer has watched more hours of people streaming games, than playing games doesn't mean she isn't a GAMER!

Am I right fellow gamers? Come on let's go own some scrubs and noobs! Mountain Dew is on me!
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>>126001063
Source? I'm geniunely curious about this. A friend of mine keeps telling me how the mages hit the hardest, and I'd love to prove him wrong.
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>>126004713
the fuck? you're a gamer? gtfo faggot

only true Blizzard Gamersâ„¢ can post here
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>>126005243
https://youtu.be/ohhVVLolLUs?t=3151

fuck me that guy was cringey,the entire overwatch q&a panel was painful to watch
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>>126003840
>Kael'Thas
>His abilities and trait have to be chained in a very specific way to deal his awesome burst damage
Yeah, you D the living bomb that's it. He is one of the easiest assassins around.
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>>126005665
>tumbnail had Bae(mei)
>reminding me of the 1 hour conference that made me want to vomit

Not cool anon.
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>>126005739
Yup. And you just throw the second one immediately right? Regardless of who you hit?
It's not like you have to throw the second when the first target is near someone else so the first explosion can spread LB, as opposed to jsut spamming both on the first target you see so his team has time to safely get away and not spread anything
It's not like your damage is only mediocre if you don't learn to chain Q+D+W+eventually R or second W in a split second as soon as you see a stun (which could or could not be your own)
Trust me, there's a big gap from guys who have mastered KT to guys that think he's jsut about D+W. And since KT has to expose himself with no escapes to score a kill you'll see a difference in their death stats too.
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After a lovely victorious match we've been winning the whole time, Ray decided to add for no reason that my Zagara build makes him @#$!. This one.

http://www.heroesnexus.com/builds/3513-ultimate-solo-push-build

After I explain my winrate with Nydus Network Zagara is 70% the last month in HL, he adds "vs tard".

I'm sorry if being Rank 10 and still with Silver MMR doesn't put me next to the pros out there, but when I win after being 3 levels down, when I win two double-spec, no heal games on the Battlefield of Eternity with my Zagara and a Hammer flaming all game (yes, that exact thing happened twice), or when we win in less than 13 minutes in Team League with 5 specialists, again twice, I really can't take seriously all the wisdom of 'top tier only' gamers. If you can call them gamers.

Next time you flame, feed or AFK because you rubbed your magic crystal ball and it linked you to HotsLogs, or reminded you of that one time you lost with Aba and as such hate him, keep your dumb mouth shut and play. And if you win, don't whine about how you should have lost because you're the best and the rest are niche idiots that didn't get Kael and Jaina.
Also don't use that 'these things don't work at higher ranks' argument. The more I play, and rise in ranks, the stupider it becomes. Please don't sweat it. Even if my MMR was Master across the board, you would still disagree. Wouldn't you, really? I mean, Maw is too good to pass up, and Gazlowe is out of the meta, so what if a Master MMR player uses Nydus, he could be lying, or be very lucky.

How cute. You'll figure this out. You always do.

Of course, this post isn't for you, it's for those like me, who sometimes get confused and believe these are actual arguments, which limits their game. Nothing to explain to sheep. Actual gamers out there, don't be afraid to be competitive and creative at the same time.
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>>126003378
or perhaps they're normal human beings who aren't desperately looking to jerk off to video game characters every waking moment of their lives
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After a lovely victorious match we've been winning the whole time, Ray decided to add for no reason that my Zagara build makes him @#$!. This one.

http://www.heroesnexus.com/builds/3513-ultimate-solo-push-build

After I explain my winrate with Nydus Network Zagara is 70% the last month in HL, he adds "vs tard".

I'm sorry if being Rank 10 and still with Silver MMR doesn't put me next to the pros out there, but when I win after being 3 levels down, when I win two double-spec, no heal games on the Battlefield of Eternity with my Zagara and a Hammer flaming all game (yes, that exact thing happened twice), or when we win in less than 13 minutes in Team League with 5 specialists, again twice, I really can't take seriously all the wisdom of 'top tier only' gamers. If you can call them gamers.

Next time you flame, feed or AFK because you rubbed your magic crystal ball and it linked you to HotsLogs, or reminded you of that one time you lost with Aba and as such hate him, keep your dumb mouth shut and play. And if you win, don't whine about how you should have lost because you're the best and the rest are niche idiots that didn't get Kael and Jaina.
Also don't use that 'these things don't work at higher ranks' argument. The more I play, and rise in ranks, the stupider it becomes. Please don't sweat it. Even if my MMR was Master across the board, you would still disagree. Wouldn't you, really? I mean, Maw is too good to pass up, and Gazlowe is out of the meta, so what if a Master MMR player uses Nydus, he could be lying, or be very lucky.

How cute. You'll figure this out. You always do.

Of course, this post isn't for you, it's for those like me, who sometimes get confused and believe these are actual arguments, which limits their game. Nothing to explain to sheep. Actual gamers out there, don't be afraid to be competitive and creative at the same time
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>>125990707
>>126006694
why do you keep posting this
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>>126006694
Why do you keep posting this? Do you really need that much justification for your build?
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>>126006874
Normal human beings don't (Or shouldn't) listen or care what shitty people have to say about them or their work.

And I say shitty people because normal human beings do not scream and yell at others for appreciating what they personally may dislike, and demand that they change to better suit themselves, even if it is a rather benign change.
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>>126007268
i was describing the developers who don't care enough to make some sex appeal skin, not the people who bitch about sex appeal skins

bikini stitches is much more entertaining than any bikini jaina could ever be, and i'm glad they made it instead
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>>126007493
But bikini Stitches made them less money.
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>>126007579
No it didn't. Blizzard doesn't make money off of skins that don't exist.
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>>126007579
if bikini jaina upset the crybaby whales, the game would get bad PR and get fewer sales. or that's at least the fear that probably keeps them from making it, sales-wise

>>126007809
you get bikini stitches by buying the IRL stitches plush
unless you were joking about how rare it is
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>>126006448
You have a long range with flame strike, your living bomb can't miss, and after level 4 your stun is the easiest to hit in the game, it's just too fast and too wide to actually miss. His phoenix ult is on a short CD, instant and is just a big zoning aoe.

KT is one that has little thought to play. If living bomb was a skill shot it would make him more difficult, but it's not it's an auto lock on ability when you get in range and accounts for most of his damage. He has zero build diversity as well. He is definitely one of the easiest assassins to play. His abilities have little to think about and he can play very safe.

There is a reason he is picked so much aside from his high damage, it's because he has a wide margin for error in his abilities and is hard to actually mess up. An easy but strong assassin is is better than a hard to play but strong assassin because the easy assassin gets to make mistakes, the harder one doesn't get as much of a window for mistakes.
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>>126008025
>if bikini jaina upset the crybaby whales, the game would get bad PR and get fewer sales
The succubus kerrigan skin already upset them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3zsNkF7e34
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>people say Raynor requires zero effort to win with
>when Sgt.Hammer can be 100% AFK and win games if Morales has her healing beam on her 100% of the time

Hammer isn't even any good but they seriously need to rework her if you can win matches like that, this isn't runescape
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>>126008941
>we promote discussion
>Comments are disabled for this video.
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>>126009031
Maybe if you didn't ignore hammer while she was split pushing your shit in and/or didn't have teamfights inside her siege radius you wouldn't have gotten rekt so hard, scrub
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>>125981535
>valla:You are so petite, are you sure you can take it all?
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>>126008941
But the character isn't blacked out, he can start the game.
He bought that skin just to bitch about it?
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>>125981535
>tyreal has gigantic nigger mr popo lips in ep 1
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>>126010203
These people are basically hardcorefundamentalist Christians, except replace "Satan" with misogyny and white privilege. They hate any kind of sexuality because they feel like the great evil is using it to corrupt them, and they can't admit to themselves that they're just as horny and fucked up as everyone else.
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>>126010203
No, someone on his stream asked if he would play Succubus Kerrigan if he got her for free. The deal was if he got to talk about the problems with it first. Hence, the video.
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>>126010203
Yeah of course, why else would anyone buy it?
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>>125981535
Woah, what the hell is this? The production value is surprisingly high, is this fanmade or official?

I hadn't heard of this.
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>>126011374
It's Chinese.
That's what.
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>>126009363

hammer was never even splitpushing she was glued to the rest of the team, also infernal shrines

are you being awkward on purpose or just thick

also, found a the typical 4-stack who put every single failing on the one outlier they got despite them all being utter shit, while also complaining they didn't get a healer because they were too thick to include one and unironically thought QM would give them one. postan talents next
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>>126011020
So he bought it and then his own audience spammed his inbox trying to force him to make a video about how evil his favourite skin is?
AND IT WORKED?
That's fucking retarded.
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>>126011526
No, someone watching sent the money for it. He agreed to it if he got to talk about it.
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>>126011479

"Potatoes! Potatoes! Potatoes! Potatoes! Everyone loves potatoes!"

- Eduardo, Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends

got to love it when rank 36s don't understand why you're reluctant to go in against Nova, Butcher and Jaina with no healer and two offtanks :D
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>>126011792
So he's a literal sellout.
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>>126012092
if someone gave you money to play video games, would you say "no, i don't want to be a sellout"?
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>>126011810
>has no healer
>grabs mana addict
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>>126012701
Kael only has one build that you take every single time. Mana addict will also increase your shield at 16
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>>126012701
>not taking mana addict for the synergy with arcane barrier
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>>126012916
stay bronze m8

the shield is big regardless of mana addict and the heal helps a ton in lane

especially fighting vs nazeebo during shrines youll heal a lot
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>>126013087
The only time you don't take mana addict is when you misclick the level 1 talents.
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>>126013249
muh cookie cutter builds

>i can't adapt to the game
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>>126013087
>i don't take mana addict
???

>>126013348
he is the most cookie cutter build hero in the game
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>>126013486
i bet you faggots also only pick Maw on Zagara too
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>>126013348
1/10
apply yourself, retard
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>>126013486
its definitely a more situational talent

like WHEN YOU DONT HAVE A HEALER

you fucking retards
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>>126013486
>3.7% of games didn't have a healer
you're a fucking retard by the way
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>>126012381
"hey I will buy you this sexist skin if you promise to talk shit about it "
" ok lol "
>call skin problematic
>use it regardless.
Either spineless snake, a cunt that uses his viewers as cash dispensers or a liar that makes videos pretending to represent a point of view he does not believe in.
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>>126013704
>a heal that's less than 5% of your total health
>better than mana addict

I bet you take the heal on Lunara's passive, too.
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>>126013704
>>126013728
The heal isn't going to do anything for you.
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>>126013947
>fight around the shrine for more
>get poked by nazeebo
>pop shield when they come in
>fight continues
>you have no shield now and are low health
????
increasing that shield by 600 surely helped :--DDDD
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>>126013808
>I don't buy any skins for the heroes
>If we buy you a skin will you use it while you stream
>I guess
>Here's the money, buy that skin you said you hate so much
>God damn it. I'll use it since I said I would but I'm making a video about it.
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>>125996330
>>125996478
A bit late to the party, but how hard is (inb4 ben brode) to give the gargantum //// gazlowe towers ///anub'arak beetles a misha-like command, it would make life much more easier
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>>126014214
nazeebo would become a lot better
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>>126014143
That heal that did less than an auto attack sure is useful!

It is less than lunara's auto attack without the poison
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>>126014214
>(inb4 ben brode)
players just wouldn't understand ordering minions
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>>126014214
not that difficult, but you lose out on the Smash

you can't command Garg to move because the key that you would have used to move him is already attached to the key used to command him to GargSlam

for all intents and purposes, he's just a really shit version of the hell soldiers that Azmodan spawns, but instead of walking to a point, that point is you, and it just attacks whatever's closest based on priority (Hero -> Minion -> Structures -> Mercs)
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>>126014214
>gazlowe towers
turrets*** wtf
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>>126014370
so you're saying that increasing the shield by 600 ish so you can pop it while getting poked out without a healer is better than a heal that will help you stay in the fight for longer, only popping the shield when they try to burst you

okay
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>>126014587
You won't lose the smash, rexxar can order misha to move or attack with his 1 key
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>>126014658
The heal will literally do nothing for you mana addict makes it so you no longer have mana problem and you get a larger shield at 16. You don't take mana addict JUST for the shield at 16.
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>>126014751
sure, but that's already core aspect of Rexxar's design

i think the reason they don't have that for Zeebruh is because Garg is only a short duration thing, relative to the entire length of the game

so unlike Rexxar, where you're constantly controlling Misha, Nazeebo players would have to adjust for both his main controls and adapt to controlling a second unit (but only while Garg is active)

also, given the fact that Nazeebo can take actives, it would cause a cluster fuck

personally, i'm all for it, if you could control garg, he'd be way better, but i can understand why Blizzard is too scared to do that, because they're afraid it would make him too complicated for the 53,000 casualfags who play HotS
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>diablo calls gg at picks because we have 3 specialists
>gazlowe takes robo goblin
>give gazlowe stim and win at 15 minutes
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>>126015028
Maybe an upgrade at 20 to make him controllable, since he becomes permanent
>>126015107
>tfw stimed gazlowe @20
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No better feeling than getting a terror a good amount of time before the enemy and knowing it's a 30 min terror and can just smash the core to bits

good thing we didn't have lunara or we might have lost
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>>126015249
>ult upgrade
>CAN control garg

wew
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>>126015249
perma, controllable Garg would be great
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Nothing better than being lunara with the jump ult against butcher and jumping out of his lamb or avoiding his charge stun and murdering him.
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does anyone know if abolish magic on lunara removes a stun from yourself? or is it just a level 20 cleanse than can free you from a root
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>>126015916
does jump actually avoid the charge stun? you can definitely get melee AA'd during it

>>126016616
it's identical to cleanse except it also removes dots, such as lunara's poison. can't unstun yourself
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>>126017125
If you Jump before the Charge hits you don't get stunned. You're Unstoppable in the air so you can dodge all sorts of CC with it. It's pretty much mandatory to take against any CC/dive comp because you will get your little doe cunt ruined if you get locked up.
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>>126017125
>does jump actually avoid the charge stun?
if you jump just before he reaches you he'll get to your original position, try to stun you, fail because you're unstoppable, and then just sit there while you giggle at him
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This game has a lot of flaws, but damn if orchestrating a comeback from a really bad position isn't extremely satisfying.
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>>126017125
Yeah he kind of runs into you while you are in the air but you are unstoppable so it does nothing
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i did not know nazeebo could grab iceblock until i tried giving him the dshield and he iceblocked during
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>>126017125
>it's identical to cleanse except it also removes dots, such as lunara's poison. can't unstun yourself
oh that sucks then
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Hi /hotsg/

I just got a free code for the Kaijo Diablo bundle and have literally 0 interest in HotS. If I were to trade the code, what could I get for it?

Research says the bundle includes Diablo and the Kaijo skin, and a 7-day exp booster.
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>>126018934
You can get diablo and the kaijo skin for like $5 right now.
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>>126018934
0

now post it
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>>126018934
0, no one really gives a shit

and the stimpack boost is only useful for people who aren't maxed level yet, which most people are

not to mention, there's a stimpack event going on already so everyone has one

just give it to a friend or whatever, you can also go on leddit and see if anyone wants it there, but it's pretty shit. at most some cheap $3 steam game... maybe

no one really cares about it though
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>>126019307
>>126019108
>>126019076
Well damn, I was hoping it would actually be something worthwhile. Yeah, I'll probably just drop it to a friend if any of them play.
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Post bets
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>>126019491
QM?
why would it matter
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>>126019491
Blue wins unless the Nova on red is much better than Fal and Kael.
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>>126019491
Team with Mura and kael
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>>126019645
It never matters. HL is just QM with drafting.
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>>126019828
but you get points in HL

:o
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>>126019898
If I wanted points I'd be on reddit.
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>>126020584
>you think your opinion matters if you're not rank 1

lmao
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>>126019443
Nobody I care about plays it. So here you go.


7574281894565599311861373

7194522194318887091694528
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>>126020813
where to put this
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>>126020893
That is an excellent question, anon!

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/code-redemption

Try that.
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>>126020813
nvm i grabbed both ty
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>>126019491
The team with the bug that consumes the living AND the dead
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>>126019691
She was

>kt whining about master skin nova all game
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Why would anyone get healing totem on Kharazim
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>>126021547
Starts with a B and rhymes with "Fonz"
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>>126021908
B-Gonze?
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>>126008592
This is what bronzies actually believe. Shit KTs will perform as you have described and they will still do OK damage. Good KTs will not and they will do high amounts of damage
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>>126021908

Just finished a QM with an Illidan and a Kharazim

Illidan complains when he dives into 3 people with more than 50% life just in front on their towers and dies

Kharazim starts writing fucking essays every time we don't want to go to get a tribute because 4 or 3v5

And I get the retarded Illidan, is almost a tradition in the game by this point, but why would a Kharazim complain about anything when getting fucking healing totem
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>>126021547

Healing ward is fine in double tank you nitwit
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>>126005124
Look at the fucking creeps when they shoot. The archers hit the hardest. You could also make an argument that killing the mage first may negate more damage because you can kill him faster than an archer
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>>126021495
RIP
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>>126005739
Actually the correct order is Phoenix>stun>living bomb>flamestrike>AA>living bomb

Wish shitters would leave
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>>126022190
>kt is hard to play well
oh geez people believe this? lmao

you can play li li poorly doesn't mean she's hard to play well
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>>126022437

Teams for reference. I mean, I could understand getting the totem in that case, but I feel like the shield is way more useful. I don't know, really.
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>>126021495

in all fairness Nova is known for two things

>that period of time where literally EVERY nova was blatantly maphacking
>being quite literally the worst designed hero in the game, just ahead of Sgt Hammer

Falling behind against a team with Nova is quite genuinely the worst experience in the game, no idea why Blizzard still thinks her current state is acceptable. There's a reason they've tried to keep her at shitpick status
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>>126022738
Who are you quoting? I didn't say anything about the difficulty of playing well.
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>>126022810

Protective shield had no high HP people to get any usage out of. You want it mainly if you have one big main tank eg Muradin

Healing ward was genuinely the correct choice here
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>>126015249
Holy shit stim gaz + Mosh pit
Hell, add a butcher with upgraded chains.
Hold the enemy team in place while gaz slaughters them one by one.
Sure Raynor could do the same, or Tychus/Artanis with their upgraded lasers lasers
but motherfucking spinning saws
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>>126022738
>he doesnt think its hard to wrestle with auto targeting heals to heal people who are actually in danger but have higher health
Bronze.
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>>126021908
Bfonzie?
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>>126022738
No one believe that he's one of the easiest assassins to play well they are just either retarded or trolling
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>>126022995

Hadn't considered that. I guess I did good not saying anything to him about it
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WHY THE FUGGGG ISNT MEWN STREAMING THAT FUCKING LAZY CUNT
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Who bestmasterskin in the game here?
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Who's the tankiest motherfucker in the game? Is it Muradin with mega buffed avatar hp and 50% HP heal, Stitches with stackable bonus hp and an instant 20% heal, Arthas with army and stoneskin, Johanna with her shield and heals on shield glare?
Chen and Cho don't apply because Chen explodes if his drinking gets interrupted (read: enemy team isn't retarded) and Cho doesn't exist unless you duo with random shitters
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>try to play murky
>get bullied by raynor 1v1
>can't even drop a fish without him destroying it
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>>126023831
>having so few playable heroes yet buying a master skin
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>>126023895
>Cho don't apply
It's definitely not cho. I'd focus down Johanna if it killed their highest DPS character at the same time, no problem.
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>>126023737
He never streams on Sundays.
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>>126023904
Gotta swap lanes if you're against Raynor or tychus or valla. Sometimes you can do OK against zagara but most times you need to swap. You do best against solo warriors
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>>126023895
pbly avatar muradin desu, followed closely by johanna who doesn't need a 100s cd to be a pain in the ass
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>>126023737
He sucks though
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>>126024568
Also kharazim dumps on murky
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>>126024227
>wasting gold on characters you'll never play
>le gotta catch em all reddit mentality
>not mastering individual heroes and then purchasing their master skin as a sign of your skill

I bet you spend real money on this game
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>>126005665
Good Lord, those tits though...
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Are we going to get wrecked?
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>>126024802
>anime reaction image
>crying reddit when you don't like something
>paying money makes you bad meme

hoooo boy
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>>126025037
all 5 of you had better build for DPS
i want to see this in action
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>>126025095
but you do spend real money on this game
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>>126023831
These two for me.
Though I hate the skin tints for Tyrande.
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>>126025037
>not doing team global
>etc stage dive/diablo apoc
>nova orbital
>illidan hunt
>artanus with purifier
>medic with medivac
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>>126025606
Either you're poor or you're a normy who saves his money. Either way get the fuck out.
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>>126026143
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>>125915284
Odin should have a separate health pool like the viking ship.
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>>126027329

Again?
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>>126023831
Right here. Just got it today. My first one.
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/r/ing some johanna smut
gosh i just love her
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>>126027705
I really liked Johanna before the side-shaved head which I find really, really gross.

Can you and other anons c/d is that what does it for you about johanna?
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>>126027507
>""""""""master"""""" skin
>description says that the armor represents both aiur and shakuras culture
>no zera glove
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Alright you fucks. Give me tips for Azmo "The Dunk Master" dan.

Not sure how to play him besides Black Pool plus Basketball
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>HURRRR I'M SGT.HAMMER I'M JUST GOING TO SIT MILES AWAY FROM THE OBJECTIVE AND STILL WIN IT WHILE BEING 100% AFK

fuck whoever thought this was good hero design
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>>126027802
i like the hair, it's probably her greatest feature next to her voice
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>>126027802
I don't dislike that hairstyle and Crusader was my favorite class in Diablo 3 when RoS launched. It got nerfed to hell though.
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So who's after Greymane? Pic related?
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>>126027980
posting that picture after i told you it was my trigger
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>>126028127
KT is already in the game anon
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>>126027304
>people who make enough money to spend it on whatever they want are little kids who have to listen to mommy
not even a part of this argument, but i don't follow this logic at all, bud
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>>126027507
As long as the blades are the same colour that skin is shit
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>>126028127
Cho'gall -> Lunara -> Greymane -> Fenix
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>>126028127
>another warcraft hero after we just had two
yeah nah
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>tfw you have a Cho'gal and a Abathur on your team so you don't have enough people to defend lanes
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>>126027879
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=166970

Look at his builds on each map.
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>>126027980
natdorm is a goddess
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>>126027980
I want to ejaculate on the shaved part of her crane
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>>126028127
Imperius.
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>>126028127
Gul'dan probably, they said they were almost done with him at blizzcon or something
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>>126029592
Imperius or alarak
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>>126029162
i love looking at stats from a single player with a shit ton of matches on 1 character.
>62% win vs gazlowe
>47% vs TLV and murky
why is this? because gazlowe is easy to laser to death, and the other two are mostly unaffected by it?
>>
>Stop solo queing, to grind with vg/ premades
>Team qaulity improves dramatically
>Team comps are generally much better
Got some money
>Back to solo HL
>People have decided on Lunara, mem dream teams and lock in
>Team has 0 stuns and no one takes issue with this
>HL games awful all around

Why is their no 5 man HL?
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>play lunara in qm
>nova on enemy team every single game for 13 games in a row
wow great this is just what I want, when I play tass there is never an enemy nova
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>>126029921
>Why is their no 5 man HL?
...team league?
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>push down the towers on both sides easily and quickly
>manage to get a keep early to pressure with bound minion catapults
>lose because the enemy team has tyrande and nova

Nice game.
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>>126028129
You didn't say it was a trigger.
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I think I'm in love with this giant fatass.
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>>126031653
He's great. I had to stop playing him after a 25 game win streak since the game isn't fun if you have no chance of losing.
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First game of coinflip shire that went very nicely. They had a REALLY shitty team to go against an Azmodan with, and I was just able to smash down everything. Having to settle with Sieging Wrath for the most part but everything works nicely.

Didn't lose a single DK and just sort of steamrolled them. of course we did, we had sonya.
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>>126029836
I think it's because gazlowe is a bad hero, and TLV and murky have high winrates, anon. It's a general thing about the heroes, not anything to do with azmo.
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>>126030263
>Destroy everything easily.
>Get more siege damage than everyone even though I never took the dragon once.
>Make Valla run whenever she sees me because of Taste for Blood stacks.
>Don't be shit at Azmo.
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>>126031963
What makes that a bad team against Az?
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>>126032097

Poor waveclear and gank potential to stop him from thinking he can just waltz up to something and knock it over.
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>>126032050
>being this scared to post names info on a Cantonese doodleboard
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>>126032326
Thanks
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>>126032050
>tfw you didn't block out the person icon on the bottom right corner and now all your info is leaked onto the interwebs
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>>126032050
you didn't hide valla's eyes, i can see them
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>>126032765
Damn it. I knew I missed something fuck. Please no hacks.

>>126032479
Used to be a joke in this general. Guess it's moved on past all that.
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>>126032825
Sorry I subjected you to that.
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>>126033280
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>>126033280
she's now asian
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>>126033039
>in this general
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>>126033450
Of course.
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>>126027507
My god it's even more ugly than his normal skin.
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>>126034328
Confirmed for shit taste.
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>>126033864
>Lunara talking Murloc to Murky
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Mortal Tyreal skin when?
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Think we'll ever get the Wizard?
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>When the Lunara on your team attempts to be the shotcaller and overpings the map

I guess the memes of the week need to make up for being shit tier most of the time.
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>>126034923
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>when you get their core down to 53% but have to retreat, losing two peeps as Medic have to fly away early with Gaz and Lunara in tow
>to make sure, tell team not to go at the shrine 3v5 until me and malf are back
>instead as soon as we both get back Medic just flies everyone to the enemy core and ends it

that also works, I guess
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>>126035353
>tfw she runs off on her own and dies
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>>126036145

Actually that's not Raynor, that's Jammy, who is a different character. There's also Yesva, Tyrone, Nagirrek, Scary Steve and Marthass.
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Are they ever going to fix the Jaina Master skin?
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is The Butcher any good? haven't played him since he was released
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Tell me I deserved this.
>>
>>126037053

Unbeatable in single combat, except against Leo
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>>126037053
Yes

He's especially great right now with all the Lunaras. And the other squishy burst characters trying to kill Lunaras.
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>>126037053
No.
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ded as fuck game
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>>126037975
>determining success of a game based on how much R34 there is on paheal
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>>126038227
number 1 metric senpai
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>>126037975
post it
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>>126038642
Its just a fucking screen shot with a single extra line for a vagina. Its more fucking pathetic than having nothing
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>QM
>end up with no support
>enemy team has a Nova
>autoloss

Nova is genuinely broken in QM. The rework can't come soon enough.
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>>126039267
lol
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>>125970827
Can I get link to any championship game where non-shitter team picks Nova?
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>>126039267
wut
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>>126039267
Yeah it does seem that nova is only put in games without support in qm
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>QM as azmodan
>sky temple
>malfurion comes bottom with me instead of rotating top or mid
>dies to illidan twice and a probably-not-maphacking-but-you-never-know-nova
>valla complains that lunara is OP after dying to her once
>calls gg about 3 minutes in
>realise we have a nazeebo who will do nothing all game and no tank
>give it until second wave of temples
>us 8 and a half, them 10
>exit game

I'll do without, thanks.
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>>126040514
Does this shit even have leaver penalties?
>>
the only thing that Cloak actually does gameplay wise is prevent Basic Attacks and Single Target abilities

that's literally it, it doesn't grant invuln, invinc, extra vision, NOTHING. it just stops you from being clicked on

if you lose to stealth, you're literal bronze shit, stop playing and uninstall
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>>126040648

Yes, but it's not any different to a normal QM.
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Now this was some right fucking HotS, baby.

>towers of doom
>they have two health, we have 5, but they also have 5 shots
>top two altars spawn
>either will win, whoever starts cap last loses
>I jihad into three of them to interrupt the cap, their cho'gall does the same
>I live longer because transgression
>cho'gall dies
>get one last Q off to interrupt
>win
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>>126040514
They didn't have a tank either then.
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>>126040665

t. stealth product
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>>126040665
It also stops them from being visible on the minimap, which is pretty good against stuff like Lunara and Zagara.
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>>126040869

They had Uther and a stealth hero who does 60+% of someone's lifebar instantly.

We had Nazeebo and Malfurion.

Wasting four minutes was quite enough.
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>>126040514
>a nazeebo who will do nothing all game
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>>126041164

There's a reason he's been picked as often as Gazlowe in competitive since the scaling changes.

Zero times.
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>>126041014
You were playing Azmodan. The minute you pick Azmo you lose the right to complain about anyone else.
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>>126041293
he does a lot of damage

stay bronze shitter
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>>126041014
you sound like a shit tier bronze fag.
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>>126041338
So what about the people literally paid to play the game? They bronze shitters too?
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>>126041338
He does a lot of poke damage that doesn't contribute much to anything.

>Throw a jar of spiders leave.
>Look at the damage bros.
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>>126041472
i haven't seen someone this bad at the game
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>>126041517
You don't have to lie so badly anon. You have to watch yourself play daily.
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>>126041393

a compelling argument
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>nova in every single qm
wtf is going on? why is it usually 1 or 2 novas every fucking game?
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>>126042104
She was popular before and now that she's actually decent those people and the people that play okay heroes play her as well now.
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>>126041616
>Gives up 4 min in and is proud of it amirite guyz?
Yeah I'd say it's a pretty compelling argument.
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>>126042341

As much as you're acting up for your little live audience here, I don't see any applause.

Starting to question your life choices yet? Don't worry you're welcome to go back to Reddit if you want a more active live audience PLUS usernames for them to remember you by!
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>>126042104
They want to 1 shot Lunara.
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The topic being tackled today is: raging. Now, rage is a natural reaction to many situations, but one must realize that it impairs your ability to make good judgements and decisions. It is physically impossible for everyone to be rank 1 (or even rank 25), but everyone can improve, and make the game more enjoyable.

Much more simply, whenever you feel like being negative, or raging, or whatever...pull your hands up, and don't touch the keyboard. Calm down, and think about what happened. If you communicate with your teammates, particularly one(s) whom you assume to have caused your rage, be careful to not be accusatory. All such language does is make them not want to play with you, and reduces their performance.
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>>126043631
I know this is a reddit post but he's kinda right. Yelling at your team isn't going to win you games. It's just going to get everybody upset or angry and then you'll lose anyway.
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>>125952789
what the fuck is an anuses
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>>126043631
Shut the fuck up YOU FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT
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>>126043307
i don't even see lunara as much as nova now in qm
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>>126044075
I was rank 26 and about 20 points from rank 25. Both games I was the highest ranked player on my team. Now I'm back down to 27. I thought the higher your rank compared to your team, the fewer rank points you loose after a lose. Clearly this isn't the case. Would someone mind explaining?
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>>126044189
It's because Lunara is ass so most of us that bought her stopped playing her.
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>>126044341
I play her every now and again cause I think she's kind of fun, but yes she's ass.
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>>126045201
She's definitely fun if you get a favorable matchup and aren't getting destroyed. I just wish she was better.

And she's CUTE
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>>126042536
>>126041393
>>126041616
A surrender vote option would be nice if half the team have already given up.

Comebacks are sweet but they're pretty rare.
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>>126042536
What the fuck are you babbling on about?
You're the grade A definition of faggot.
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>>126029592
But Imperius is a mega fag
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>>126046109
>Surrender
This is the shit DBro puts up with.
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>>126027507
thought that was a shop of Kel'thuzad from the thumbnail desu
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>>126029592
>Wanting the Archangel of C ucks
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>>126047768
Even in D3 every time he shows up he gets his ass beat too, he's worse than worf
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How can they fix Lunara?

Ults that actually let her contribute to a team fight? More HP? A Base sprint with her Z? Actual burst damage?
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>>126027879
Your D is global
:^)
Use it on lanes where there are no enemy heroes. If they aren't stupid, they will kill your demon general the moment they can. Fighting for tribute on top lane?
Well now your m8 is pushing bot. It doesn't matter which minion you use it on unless you took bound minion so you can just quickly pan the camera to the other lane while you're casting q,, d something and go back.
If you do take bound minion, use it on catapults or archer minions if their keeps are still up.

Forced recruitment is amazing if you pick some pushing talents like demonic smite, bound minion. You can push 2 lanes while stalling with your team on the third. Eventually the enemy has to split up to stop your guys from breaking the core so they will either give you a perfect opportunity to 4v5 or they will have to engage you on your pool.

Also demon warrior's AI is garbage, never take W talents.
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>>126049321
>>126049321
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>>126049210
Fix her stutterstepping, she is bugged to where you can't do it effectively while kiting sometimes your aa gets canceled because of the jump. If they fix that she will be much better.

Right now she is hard to play well, but even if you can play her well she dies too easily and her hopping becomes detrimental to your kiting. Make it so you can't mount if you have her poison on you as well.
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