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Christmas Train Edition

>Whats New:
Lunara released
Patch notes: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19981657

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.


>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130

Previously on /hotsg/: >>125710071
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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first for

>THE HUNT IS ON
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he-hey man
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>>125814507
Maybe NEVER_______
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He-Hey man!
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>>125814746
>>125814760
This is Jimmy
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I play on EU. Every time I lose the game someone writes something in russian.
It happens so often I'm starting to memorize it.
One day I will put the pieces of the puzzle together and understand what you were trying to say after these thousainds of losses, russian teammate.
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Stukov when?
Mengst when?
Baal when?
Mephisto when?
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Have you accepted a superior life form into your heart yet?
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>>125815132
Pic unrelated?
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>>125815132
Our time has come
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>>125815020
In soviet russia, good game have YOU.
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>>125815132
Yeah but why did you post that chump?
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>>125815034
>We will never get Doomsday.
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>>125815287
>>125815354
>Living in the past.

I see you are still in early stages of evolution.
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>>125814421
chen is a bruiser, he can't peel for fragile heroes the way a tank should
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>>125815725
I agree he's more of a diving tank, but at level 26 he can peel pretty good. If his dive kick worked like it was supposed to he'd be a lot better at it.
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Is this the improved matchmaking experience I kept hearing about?
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>>125815725
Chen and Tyrael just have completely different roles. While they're both pretty good at diving, Chen is no doubt better at it, and while Chen can peel, Tyrael is no doubt better at that, especially with sanc.
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>>125816035
Damn it not 26, 16 when he gets Pressure Point.
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Should Blizzard divide the Warrior role into Bruiser and Warrior/Guardian?

I feel like there needs to be sub-roles established.
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>>125816045
the rule is

IF Support on one team, there must be a Support on the other team

If Warrior on one team, there must be a Warrior on the other team

those are the only 2 rules, beyond the usual MMR shit

it has nothing to do with how many assassins or specialists there are on either team
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>>125816239
Hots logs now puts heroes in more accurate roles
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>>125816045
All it did was make it so every team should have a healer and a warrior. Or neither. I do feel bad for you guys for having a Lunara though.
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>>125815132
Yes.
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>>125816718
Amon's slut is anything but Superior.
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>>125815551
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how dead you are.
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BHB is a fun and interactive map where games are almost never almost constantly lost by the time the game rolls around to the 3rd minute

If not for me having a stimpack I'd just leave the game every time we fell a level behind during the early game

seriously not worth the effort
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>>125816937
o__o
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>>125816896
Go get drunk in a bar over your waifu turning into Jean Grey instead of doing the right thing and leading your people to a glorious golden age.
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>>125816896
SPOILERS
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>>125817220
He doesn't die.
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>improved matchmaking
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>>125817291
AAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>125817074

yeah they managed to stay ahead and because they had butcher and we didn't their azmo got free way to hard shove everything while I had to be careful

map is just a shit unintuitive mess that discourages actually playing the game as intended in favour of just completely ignoring it and playing it like a PvE game
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>>125816896
>no Purity of Form
>no Purity of Essence
why do Terrans even exist?
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Anyone know if the matchmaker changes apply to QM as well? I've played about 16 games since the patch and haven't had a single good match. I've only won three games, and even when I do win it's just one-sided. Every game, the losing team manages to destroy at most one fort. I used to have a pretty 50/50 win rate before, now my MMR has tanked 200 points in less than a week.
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>>125817316
>Both teams have a support and a warrior.

It's working as intended. They said they were working on something separate for special heroes like Aba and Cho'Gall so that they wouldn't appear on a team that would completely destroy them.
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>>125816896
I can dig that
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Lunara is so op that people are begging for nerfs a few days after release. Why is she the strongest hero in the game by far?
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>>125817351
He's really bad ass in it actually.
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>>125817583
>The one thing that could keep her alive might get nerfed.

>>125817442
Pretty sure the only change so far is that both teams are supposed to have a warrior.
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>>125817583
>nerf the only thing that stops her from being free Nova GP stacks and Kael'thas kills
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>>125817583

never forget that dustin actually responds to these people
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>>125817387
>he thinks being literal xel'naga sperm is an accomplishment
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>>125817891
I'd rather him respond to everybody then nobody. For as much stupid shit he says the shit he has to deal with is much worse.
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>>125814229
>Alexstrasza when?

>Shandris when?

>Kel'thuzad when?

>Cairne when?

>Maraad when?

>Garrosh when?

>Zul'jin when?

>Dehaka when?


Bolvar when?
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>>125818027
I like that you threw in one Starcraft hero just so it wouldn't be only Warcraft heroes. Nice.
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>>125818153
Heroes of the World of Warcraft
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>>125818153
>3 Diablo games
>2 Starcraft games
>12 Warcraft games + books + comics + a movie

>waaah waaaah why are there so many warcraft heroes
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>>125818841
Counting expansions as games is cheating anon
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>>125818990
he didn't even count diablo or sc expansions for some reason
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>>125818990
There's more content in one WoW expansion than there is in all the other games on that list combined, with the possible exception of SC multiplayer in Korea.
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>>125816896
Why is Jimmy so smug all the time? He got a drinking problem, probably hasn't been laid in years and his life consists of getting fucked by the universe day after day
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>>125818841
You didn't even count all the extra shit Diablo and Starcraft had which include books and comics as well. As well as expansions.
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>>125819224
o lol
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>>125819224
>Nothing but bitching about Expansions since Wrath and even that I've heard people bitch about.
>All of a sudden they are golden games.
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Bets?
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>>125819738
I would be happy if I had my own personal luxury Battle Cruiser to fuck around on.
>>125819224
Except some of those expansions he included weren't even WoW such as warcraft 2 expansion and Frozen Throne, so even if you defended all the WoW expansions hes still cheating.
I cant dig that
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more warcarft less other shit plz
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>>125820068
blue smashes red, they have no answer for cho gall, let alone cho gall + medic
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>>125820068
blue by a mile
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>>125819976
>Actually listening to bronzies bitching about things they cant begin to comprehend
Dustin that you?
>>125817583
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>>125820068
Red.
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>>125820068
>Cho'Gall vs Lunara.

I'm saying blue if you can protect Medic. Her healing on Cho'Gall insane. The only diving person you have to worry about is Muradin.
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>playing quick match as butcher
>butcher on the enemy team
>walk up and charge him for shits
>he charges me at the same time
>BRACE FOR IMPACT

>I get stunned but he doesn't

Nice game blizztards
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>>125820349
He charged second. So when you hit he was Unstoppable. You weren't.
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>>125820349
>Make a bad play
>Blame your team or the game
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>Looking at Dustin's twitter.
>Someone brings up how underwhelming lvl 20 character rewards are and he says he agrees.

You guys ready for Ultimate Master Skins.
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>>125818153
No I just listed the ones I wanted sperg.


Go jack off to some more lili porn faggot.

The only diablo and sc characters that matter are already in the game.
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>>125820864
>No Baal, Andariel, Blood Raven, Duriel, Mephisto, Imperius, Deckard Cain,
>No Horace Warfield, Karax, Alarak, Tosh, Selendis. Duran, Stukov, Fenix, Overmind.
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>>125820864
Cain isn't in the game though
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>>125821152
>Blood Raven will never be added as a ranged warrior
>we will never have a female archer for every class
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>>125821152
>overmind
I really dont care if hes in though he would basically be another Abathur.
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>>125821152
I guess with lunara there's no chance of andariel...
>no spider titties
sad day
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>>125820626
It was a level one encounter, it didn't really affect anything
I just thought it was funny because it's illogical
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>>125821832
>He doesn't want him to send overlords out for vision across the map.
>He doesn't want him to spawn drones that can build buildings and spawn creatures or defenses.
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>>125822080
>>He doesn't want him to send overlords out for vision across the map.
vision is useless he should have vault instead
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>>125822080
makes no sense as a hero desu
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>>125822186
>Still defending wisp.

How about this. We take owl away from Tyrande and give her wisp instead.
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>>125820452
That doesn't really make any sense. Unstoppable wears off when you reach your destination or the time runs out. We both reached our destination at the same time (as we were both charging eachother and thus logically came into range for the stun at the exact same time, if you ever visited school you may remember "two points always have the exact same distance from eachother") it should've either preferably stunned both or stunned neither

It's not like it's a huge issue but it's kind of a beginner coding/logic mistake.
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>>125822062
>because it's illogical

>Still refusing to learn
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>>125822304
It's how every thing unstoppable works. The second one works because the first one reaches it's destination first.
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>>125822448
>It's how every thing unstoppable works
Such as?

>The second one works because the first one reaches it's destination first.
Ok so
Point A moves towards point B, point B being the destination for point A.
Meanwhile, point B moves towards point B. Point A being the destination for point B.
Which one reaches its destination first?
If I remember correctly, that's fourth grade
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>>125822619
>Meanwhile, point B moves towards point B.
Point B moves towards point A*
little typo there
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>>125816937
>come for the memes, stay for the bronzeblogs
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>>125822619
It's like hit trading in most fighting games one move takes priority. Unstoppable doesn't always mean Unstoppable in this game.

Zagara's Maw or Zeratul's VP will stop something that's unstoppable. Meanwhile something that's Unstoppable will break Butcher's Chain or ETC's Mosh. Games just got some weird shit.
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>>125820068
Blue won, the medic kept forgetting to heal people though and would just stand there looking really dumb.
The Cho was talking shit all the time but that's to be expected from polish players.
The legend of the Lunara shitter is true though.
Leoric wrecks Lunaras that don't pick the jump so hard
Man robo-goblin gaz is frustrating.
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>>125823276
>32 minute game
>200k siege damage gazlowe
sure is rank 35 in here
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>>125816937
Fights happen at the turn in point mainly. I rarely have any pve only on this map. Except when I'm Illidan and PvE all day.
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>>125823347
I'm doing my placement series.
So far my experience is "The first pick gets Lunara and his team loses horribly"
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>>125823347
What? I pick robo-gaz at rank 1 just because this game has become hollow for me. The last couple of new releases are so underwhelming nothing but picking janky picks is fun anymore. Sure I can pick Kael every game and pretty much get a 50%+ win rate but where's the fun in that? Plus if Gazlowe is getting buffed I want to git gud at him.
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>>125823347
Also does 200k siege damage gazlowe at 32 minutes mean he did good or bad?
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>>125815132
Artanis campaign skin when? I want two different colour blades.
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How do I get good with Zeratul?
I can play just fine with Nova(inb4 >implying) but I just feel like I'm never doing enough with Zera
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>>125823623
Robo goblin
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>>125816363
That doesn't help when you get the shitter saying "akshully Sonya IS a good solo warrior it SEZ so right there :^)"
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>>125824024
master skin should have it.
Also imagine artanis with campaing skills, or the more op spear of adun powers
stop time and call down robofenix when
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>>125817316
That is the best team comp for cho gall. Medic Sonya chogall and either Raynor or lunara. Its awesome
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>>125823054
>It's like hit trading in most fighting games one move takes priority.
Yes, but these have actual priorities. By design.

>Zagara's Maw or Zeratul's VP will stop something that's unstoppable.
That's a mechanic and has nothing to do with what I'm describing

>Meanwhile something that's Unstoppable will break Butcher's Chain or ETC's Mosh.
Also a mechanic. Butcher's Chain is just a movement effect like a knockback, mosh is just a stun.

These things have nothing to do with two butchers charging eachother as that stun is blocked by unstoppable. So either they both get stunned as two points always have the same distance from eachother or neither get stunned if unstoppable doesn't wear off before the stun lands.

It's absolutely impossible for one butcher to reach the other first as they're both moving towards eachother and always have the same distance to eachother. Basic math mate
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>>125824224
Yea. that's what disappointed me most about artanis. He had awesome campaign skills that could have been his kit. Instead he has blade dash and some gay prism he throws. His trait should have been a permanent shield and he can refill it. Regens slowly out of combat
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>>125824773
Maybe fenix will get something like that
If they don't make him a dragoon
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>brand new matchmaking system to provide our players with more balanced and pleasant experience!
xD
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>>125824548
Actually the unstoppable effect stops right at the end of butchers charge before he hits his target. You can time your charge as butcher is charging you so yours is just starting up and is unstoppable as he is lunging and you will stun him and not be stunned
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>Play with CommanderBronze
>Lose
>He leaves
>We win by a landslide
H M M
M
M
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>>125824947
The new rules only change that if you don't have warrios your oponent won't have em either. same for healers
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>>125824947
Both teams have a warrior and support. That was the only change this patch. They mentioned it was only in Phase 1.
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next post decides what i instalock in HL
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>>125824824
He could just be the original warrior he was before he died
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>>125824824
His name better not be talandar
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>>125825239
Yep, i mean he will eventually get in, it's a fan favorite. The team already had an idea of how to implement him as a zealot, but artanis took the spot, we shall get answers about him on agust 2016 in a con or something
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>>125825383
The only thing they mentioned about him was not wanting to use him because he'd have to have a resurrect ability and they just released Leoric and they didn't want to many characters with that.
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>tfw people still pick thrall despite the bugs
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>>125825163
>>125825168
really? then what was all the new matchmaking hype about if its just adding one extra rule? I thought they would look into more indepth stuff like matching lunara as solo assassin vs chogall isnt very smart idea
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>>125825629
>going windfury build
ayy lmao
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>>125825629
His only bug is Grace of Air which isn't necessary with the good build anyways.
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>>125825672
They should just make QM all pick with a 30s timer
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What's up with all the master skin novas at rank 35?
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>>125825569
>>125825383
>ressurect
>Dies as a zealot changes into a dragoon
>Dies as dragoon gets the purifier fenix
>Dies as Purifier gets turned back into zealot
Wonky Fenix Lore tactics inbound
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>>125825191
Gazlowe
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>>125824975
I guess that's a fair point, but it's definitely not what happened. We were both charging at eachother for a fair distance. If unstoppable wears off before the stun hits, that would mean both should've been stunned.
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>>125825672
They are. This is phase 1 of the change. They made a giant post detailing the different phases they are going to go through with match making to make sure it's working as intended.

One of the changes they mentioned coming is that heroes like Cho'Gall, Nova, Abathur won't be placed on teams that completely fuck the team.
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>>125825816
would be wonky and fun, why not.
also what dustin "me no smart" said
http://prntscr.com/9fwpub
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>>125825982
Ok ty based anon, glad to hear there is still hope
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>>125825984
I always find this shit funny

you just took a screenshot with a third party program even though the functionality is native to windows
then you (or the program) uploaded it to a website, even though we're on an imageboard
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>>125825974
Well it does take about a second to start up when he clangs his carver and meat hook together
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>>125826115
My pc sucks balls so when i go to select a file it lags, this is faster
also the programs uploads by itself, pretty handy to take vidya screenies.
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>>125826219
That's just the initial casttime, He doesn't start moving during that.

That reminds me though, the butcher has to be the hero with the longest casttimes. He feels so clunky to play
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>>125826487
waifu shitter
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>>125826487
guess my MMR
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>>125826436
That's what I mean, you could have already been moving while the other butcher was starting up
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>>125826632
Well you play Falstad and Chen so you have great taste. Now if only you'd play Artanis.
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>>125826487
Shore Thang Armchair General
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>>125826632
daym
>>125826995
I respect both of your Chen plays you do it so others don't have to.
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>>125824052
AA build. Marksman, Berserk, Searing attacks, Shadow Assault. He is very hard to play properly now since his nerf.
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>>125826487
>ywn fuck the Martillo
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>tanks that don't peel
eueughh
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Bets?

I honestly don't know anymore
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>>125827761
>Karazhim that's the only support and takes DPS talents
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>>125827947
red counters cho gall hard and hammer is useless here
if red doesn't win, they're a bunch of retards
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>>125827947
Red
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>>125826487
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>>125827947
Warrior and Support. That was the only change.
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>>125828261
My bad your bitching about how shitty the draft was. They don't have a healer. You should win.
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>>125827973
>Leoric treats deaths like a Murky would.
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>>125828253
muh nigga
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>>125826487
am I the only autist with a level 20 hero here?
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>>125828583
It's Raynor, that doesn't count.
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>>125828583
>Last night saw a master skin sylv in versus A.I.
>Her sylv was level 20 and all she ever played was A.I. games.
only had 3 HL games played and 5 QM.
You are far from an autist anon.
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>>125827973
>kharazim taking DPS talents in any context
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>>125828478
>tell Leoric to stop dying much
>"shut up noob that's the whole point of the hero"
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>>125826928
>so you have great taste. Now if only you'd play Artanis.

?
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Illidan needs a buff or I'm quitting.
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>>125828891
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>>125828536
>>125827469
>>125826632
Nice taste, but you guys thing that Gazlowe is a bad hero?
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>>125826487
k

>>125828583
nah
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>MMR and Rank
>In a game where one terrible person can lose the game for you
>This somehow says something about you as a palyer
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what happens if you earn a stimpack and you already have one active?
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>>125829118
ONLY CONSTANT
N
L
Y
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>>125829145
You're fucking banned hacker
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>>125829029
He actually does. Hes' in a pretty shit state right now.
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>>125829145
Cumulative.
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>>125829102
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>>125828859
The meme is real.
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>>125829118
https://heroesmodelling.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/how-should-individual-mmrs-be-combined-into-a-team-rating/

You are the only constant.
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>>125828891
>So many Chen's and Falstad's in this thread.
I'd have never guessed.
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>>125828801
Nothing wrong with a game vs AI here and then to hone your skills
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>>125828242
>>125828261
I don't think Hammer showed up to a single altar. Cho came to one or two.

>>125828397
Wasn't me bitching. I was busy losing.

And yes, we should have.

ONLY CONSTANT
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>>125829182
>>125829326
Yeah, because I'm the Zeratul spending the entire game hunting Abathur without ever killing him, and trying to ambush people as they're with their Support, or maybe I'm the Leoric who walks into a fight and never uses his E to pull out, ever, so I spend more time dead than alive.
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>>125824947
what the fuck are you even complaining about? xD

>>125825672
how hard is it to understand it's quick match they don't want to dictate meta? a meta that doesn't matter for most of the player base's skill level. meta that doesn't matter when a lot people are just fucking off or are playing new characters and can't execute.

>>125826106
there really isn't because putting character's into boxes just leads to balancing changes like the tyrande/tassadar buffs, where people want a prototypical character to play. everything gradually becomes a couple re-skins with different animations doing roughly the same thing every game.
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>>125829559
the first step is admitting you have a problem
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>>125826487
Working on Master Skins for Chen and Artanis.
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>>125829559
>cherry picking and confirmation bias

Everybody has shitty games. Toughen the fuck up and learn to deal with them. If you're good you'll climb, if you're bad you'll stay in the shit leagues forever.
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>>125829479
>Completely shut out.

I think that's the first time I'v seen that.
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>>125826487
Get memed
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>>125829652
I'd have to agree with him.
All it takes is one guy who refuses to adapt to the team's playstyle.
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>>125829816
>Lvl 10 Gall
>Lvl 10 Abathur
>Filename
Well memed m80
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>>125829801
Yeah, same here.

Aside from the first couple of altars, me and Lunara were literally the only people on the team that even tried to play the objective.
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>>125829816
Needs Gazlowe.
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>>125830186
Fuck Glazgow.
Everyone post your loner boner page 4 guys
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>>125829091
I'd say Gaz is a great hero who's undervalued.
He can build for siege or he can build for teamfights.
The key is to know what you can do as a gaz and what your gaz can do if he's on your team.
I've killed so many scrubs who thought I was an easy kill and didn't notice my turrets were wrecking and slowing them before it was too late.
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Rate me, I know I'm late.
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Well, sometimes you win, sometimes you get gaz and lulnara on your team.
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>>125830356
>tfw light abandons you
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>>125830356
>TLV no surprise there.
>mfw I was sick and couldn't play Artanis free week.
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>>125828253
>>125827469
>>125826632
Ayyhayy, buddies. How's it goin'?
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>>125830781
Welp the boss of ratchet be here bois
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>>125830781
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>>125830356
Well i think the same about your kind.
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>>125826487
waifu/10
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>>125826632
I'm hoping 3k. Most shitters don't get Uther to lvl 10.
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>>125830356
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>>125829091
He can be good in lots of situations, but he can also be really really shitty and useless in many.
Especially against ranged heroes he has a hard time, and I don't just mean the ones that ourange his turrets and can kill them safely.

It's always fun when people chase you into turrets to bully you out of lane and you just turn around and smack them in the face and they either back off and heal or die. Most people aren't aware that 3+ turrets on a single target do pretty substantial DPS.
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>>125831113
I'm actually hovering around 2950-3050 MMR, good guess
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>>125831180
i regret buying her, everything about her feels so shit, there hasnt been a case where i didnt think "fuck i wish i picked raynor/valla"
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>>125831843
Every lunara I play against or with does this thing where they rub up on the enemy team to harass them and the entirely enemy team just turns and swallows them

Then again, that's the case with every new hero who doesn't have any escapes.
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Try to get gud with TLV in QM. People rage at you for keeping them still for too long. I still have a high win rate with them even though I dunno what the fuck I'm doing with them all the time. It gets me titled when people ping spam when I keep them still for more than 1 seconded its fucking annoying.
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>>125831843
I have every hero so I always have enough gold to buy the new hero. I don't know how much I'll play her but I also don't remember the last time I played Malf or others in the cast either.
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>>125832159
Just say ur body soaking
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>>125832159
A lot of the time especially in the beginning they should just be hiding in bushes and soaking.
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>>125832159
People think you're bad at micro if you don't move them around every second
Just ignore them, make sure you stay in XP range when soaking and make sure you have each lane hotkeyd so you can switch between them and help out/flee where you need, much like playing abathur
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>>125832119
Every Lunara I've seen has played her like shit. They are constantly hitting the same target even past 3, they stand fucking still like retards, they chase and get killed

Lunara must not chase, she must rotate targets, and she needs to be moving

good luck with this games player base
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>>125832780
I feel like the way to get the most out of her is the way Foerest plays her and concentrates more on the slowing aspects of her then the damage.
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>>125832960
Foerest sucks with her badly
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>>125832159
Vikings ping help at themselves when they take damage. You sure that's not what you think your teammates ping spamming you?
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>>125833059
I'm not saying he's good, I just said I think he has the right idea. She doesn't have the greatest range and so going the AA damage route is a little risky.

It's either that or building up her Q I think and that just makes her feel like a shitty Kael.
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QM MMR 2200
HL MMR 1700
Rank 27
Is there no escape from this hell?
Or must I grind till I can grind no more?
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>HL
>some autist on sonya doesnt participate in a single teamfight, he just kills merc camps and tries to solo bosses
>when questioned about his "strategy" he replies "report me, 4x report pls"
what the heck
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>>125834206
MMR isn't about grinding, it's about skill
and no, your teammates aren't the issue. Everyone at low MMR thinks his teammates are the reason he's stuck there. All the 4 players you're playing with think that.
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>>125834206
>QM 2900
>HL 2000
i feel like i descend into some retard-ghetto when queueing for HL
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>>125834512
I'm mainly complaining about how great a QM can feel compared to how shit a HL game can feel.
Imagine going from fun platinum level games to toxic shit silver games.
Which I'm apparently stuck with so that's fun.
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Man I thought this game was going to be
>improved matchmaking.
Might have been dumpsterfire league though.
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>>125835547
>24 death Diablo
>19 death Leoric
Maximizing that Trait potential.
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>>125835547
yea enemy team had really bad matchup, no wonder you won
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>>125835630
it is KAD instead of KDA now
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>>125835630
when will people be tired of this meme

>>125835759
when other people stop falling for it
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>>125834512
MMR is about mainly grinding and skill if you're 1k MMR for example and want to get to 2.5K MMR after a substantial amount of games.
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>>125826487
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Lunara is a shit.
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>>125836897
or maybe, just maybe
you are a shit
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>>125836159
No, it's not. The lower your MMR, the higher your potential MMR gain per game.
Getting from 3k to 4k is atleast 100 won games in a row. Getting from 1k to 2k is about 15.
If you don't win them, you're in the right skill level
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>>125837110
no he is right
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Lunara is infact shit, she dies to literally any kind of CC.

Of course she has high over all damage, she's a dot hero. That doesn't make her good.
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>>125837426
The worst thing about her is that you have to spread the dot around to be useful and slow them all, but then your team severaly lacks focus damage.
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could someone post how commander raynor looks on a vulture
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>>125836897
>6 deaths vs ai
Senjinn??
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>>125836897
I think it's a little of both here. She's clearly shit, but you are facing the AI. What the hell.
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>>125838407
Yes...Senjinn, ofc, who else?
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>>125837212
People are getting 10 points per average games at 1k if they've played a substantial amount of games. 10x15 =/= 1000. You only get 100 point games when you first start.
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>>125836897
Dying to A.I, 4Head.
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>>125837330
he can be both right, and also shit himself
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>>125840451
why would he want to shit himself?
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>>125840667
based on his lunara play, he probably can't help it
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if people really like assasins more than other roles, why are most of them so bad at it?
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Every time: THIS.

Can you faggots learn how to play other fucking heroes? I'm getting tired of this fucking shit.
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>>125841975
What is this image suppose to portray?
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>>125841975
>>125842891
Is this ISIS?!
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>people that never use their ults because they save them to chase after a teamfight or generally just wait for the best possible moment
In the game I had just now, the enemy team had a single piece of CC that could interrupt moshpit (zagaras maw). He used it twice. The entire game. It was a 21 minute game. Two moshpits.

There were countless 3 man moshpits with zagaras he could've gotten, I see that shit. He didn't take those. He always only used them if he could get 4 people, but by then it didn't matter anymore cause half our team is dead.
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>enemy picks kt and jaina
>teammate picks brightwing
>lose
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>>125843147
You're now realising that there's people who play this game that legitimately don't understand simple mechanics such as channel breaking.
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>>125843606
Just polymorph them.
Just dodge the AOEs.
Just spread for chain bomb
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>>125843685
slow ass winged lizard used polymorph on their tank while struggling to heal whoever gets focused by jaina + kt nukes, that is if he didnt die first because random tornado caught him
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holy fuck
i cannot play this game on the weekend
i keep getting braindead egotistical morons on my team and i'm not just talking about myself either
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Holy shit video games.

>get countered to fuck in draft
>aba pick on dragon shire
>aba picks MONSTROSITY on Dragon Shire
>Murky doesn't take dream
>Raynor bitching at the team
>lose all game
>get a pick
>win
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>>125845116
I'll fix your story.

>Pick Chen.
>Win.
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>>125845116
>lose all game
>get a pick
>win
I kind of dislike that
games are so short in this game, so it's not like in dota where you'd be sitting out 50 minutes of a team dominating you
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>>125845576
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>>125847315
Thanks buddy.
I played pretty bad though. Not much I could do and Muradin was on my ass the entire game.
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>>125847605
What's the trick to using a barrel to seperate a target reliably?
Whenever I try to barrel someone into our team he just kind of clips next to the barrel and gets past me
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>>125848020
luck.
the barrel is bugged to shit and has been for literally decades.
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>>125848020
Barrel collision depends entirely on where the target collided with you on your hitbox. That means things like the model of the barrel and your velocities at the time mean absolutely nothing. Treat the barrel like a big circle and anyone you collide with gets pushed directly away from the center. This means if someone is just slightly off center when you hit them they're going to get pushed to the side a bit.

Honestly, you just have to go in as straight a line as possible once you've already caught someone. That's the easy part, though. The hard part is getting a good setup for a barrel.
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>>125848020
The trick is to pick Panda Pals.
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>>125848453
There's games where you can't get panda pals off or or others where you need to interrupt a channel
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you are panda lovers
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>>125848410
that helps a lot, thanks
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>>125829441
>4:03 game
damn
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>Abathur clones me (Lunara)
>we have a Jaina
Only constant.
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>>125814229
PSA: People are spoiling Star Wars VII in /vg/ Chat on Heroes of the Storm. LEAVE Chat unless you want massive spoilers.
I am extremely pissed and disappointed in you people.
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>>125849756
>implying people talk in /vg/ outside of major patch days
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>>125849756
i haven't watched the movie

does han die?
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>>125849756
time to leave the thread too now that you brought it up
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>>125849536
>there team hits 10 first and Kharazim goes SSS
>our Diablo picks Lightning Breath

ONLY

CONSTANT
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>>125849756
In Star Wars Han flies the Millennium Falcon
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chen is ez
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>>125849993
>14 deaths
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>>125850791
heh
>>125835810
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>butcher charges me as Lunara
>jump his shit
>now he's stuck in the middle of our team

Hahahaha!
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>>125826487
H-hey.
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How do I into Tyrael?

I have a 55-70% winrate with all the other warriors I play, but I'm doomed to suck with him at 42%. Is there anything in particular to try to do on Tyrael?
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So how can you actually deal with sonya? How do you get rid of her if she's in your backline shitting on your support and her entire team just dives with her?
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>>125851742
CC her and blow her up. If she can't spin or attack she will melt really quickly.
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>>125851875
>just cc them from 100-0
>cc works on no other hero
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>>125851937
Sonya has the HP pool of an assassin, the damage of an assassin, so she should be treated like an assassin.
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Who /USING FREE STIMPACK TO GET LVL 10 ON ALL YOUR CHARS/ here?
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>>125852028
>Sonya has the HP pool of an assassin
Why do people tell lies to try to make a point? She has a lot more health than an assassin
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>>125852112
its less than butcher, isn't it
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>>125852112
She actually has a similar health pool to Artanis, which is basically the "weaker Warrior healthpool"

and yes, it makes them feel more like assassins, but its designed because they both have a lot of leach / regen
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>>125851875
They had a kharazim. You can't do that with divine palm

can't kill the kharazim either because their johanna peeled for him
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>>125852028
Yeah, like an assassin with iron skin and hardened shield right?
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>>125852464
sonya needs to be counterpicked. displacement and shields are good against her.

tyrael with sanctification + holy ground, uther with dshield, tass with force wall, diablo with charge and flip. stuff like that.

raynor is good too with double Q stuns.
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>>125852667
>letting the enemy team get 16
You only have yourself to blame.
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Nerf Sonya
Buff Illi
That is all.
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>>125852762
So you're saying in order to counter sonya you have to not let the enemy team get 16?
Just stomp em entirely? Seems like a reliable solid hardcounter
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>>125852762
if only there were some way to... "deny" the enemy of experience....
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Wow did nova just come out? She is in every QM game on both teams like every single game.
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lol
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>>125853421
nighthunter?
more like
night-cunt-er

i need a beer
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>>125851673
be aggresive, remember your trait
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>>125853353
Scaling and GP changes were really kind to Nova. She's almost a legitimate team member now.
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>double stun on raynor
Holy shit, why did nobody ever tell me how much fun that build is? Beats the seasoned marksman/giantkiller build by far

Is the Hyperion upgrade at 20 worth it over nexus frenzy though? The description is pretty vague
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>>125854347
Hyperion upgrade is really shit compared to bolt or nexus frenzy. Those are really the only two choices despite which ult you took.
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>solo lane as Lunara against Butcher+Muradin
Good thing they were retarded as fuck and couldn't kill me even after a double stun. I can't count how many times I got my little doe cunt through the gate with like 10 HP because Lunara's movement totally fucks up melee AA. Then after I got Jump, Butcher never bothered charging me after the first time I jumped his charge.

Best girl 2016.
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>>125854563
butcher just wanted to stick his branding iron into that dripping wet doe cunt
why do you have to be like that
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>>125854347
if either team has Murky or TLV, get Card to Play
shit is hilarious

but no, Nexus Frenzy is so versatile, plus the 20% additional range will help keep you alive during the late game fights when a single wipe means gg
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>>125854563
Butcher charge into mura stun should have had you dead 100% of the time unless they stacked CC like idiots or they engaged you like 0.5 feet from your gate.
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>>125832159
i played like 600 or more QM games with TLV. I've seen it all and just ignore it. If someone can read the situation and warn me of a gank, then that's good. Just ignore the haters, get that level 13-11 or 16-14 lead and group up.

What people don't get is you can deny exp and increase your teams chances of ganking if you keep waves as close to your towers and minimizing wasted tower ammo. There's a sweet spot for this and it takes some finesse attacking the creeps and taking the right amount of hits to keep the creep wave there. There's little incentive for the other team to chase you close to your towers. What irks me more is bad players can't tell this is happening and try to always clear waves because there's nothing else to do.

What's next level is teammates reading other team chasing a viking down and killing a hero for a viking or even pulling the viking last second and saving it with Z

There's an art to making a viking look vulnerable and easy to kill but a trap in disguise.

And another art to making it a pain in the ass for heroes especially nova and zeratul to gank your vikings.
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Hello /hotsg/ first time returning since a week before closed beta.

Built a new mustardrace for the first time and I can play everything on Ultra. It's great. Only been able to play 4 games so far.

Heard the best way to play is still all heroes to 5 for gold and then what? I only have about half there now.

Is the 365 stimpack-blizzardshekels worth it at the discounted price? It's 50g/match and quicker leveling so more gold rewards for higher hero levels yeah?
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fucking teammates dont understand the strenghts of chen vs 0 stun comp. Countless times im jumping around 4 people trying to kill me for like good 40-50 seconds and they just stand behind and watch
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If you queue as lunara in QM do you automatically get put against another lunara? I queue as other heroes and a lot of the time there will be 1 or 0 lunaras, but I always queue against another lunara when I queue as her.
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>>125855518
She was just released so there was a lot of them in the system. The rush seems to have died down a bit and I'm frequently the only Lunara in games now.
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>>125855036
the year-long stimpack has the same value as the 30 day one, iirc

otherwise yeah pretty much, theres gold rewards at 9 now as well though if you really enjoy a hero
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>>125855182
>0 stun comp
Which never happens, unless in QM, where everything goes, and even a triple trap nova can wreck havoc
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>tfw you will never become Johannes apprentice and hear her voice every day

>tfw you will never er have Lunara trying to talk Murloc to you

>tfw you will never be bro with Green Jesus
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>playing a really really hard game on immortal map
>enemy abathur and nova are a team, abathur is one of those people who get mine talents, put 20 in a bush, then bait people into it
>lost both keeps, but we're not really behind in levels anymore because they got cocky and were killing our fountains while an immortal we got because of a really good teamfight is getting one of their keeps
>abathur starts getting really cocky
>starts meleeing one of our walls down 20 minutes in, then moves away
>2 seconds later see an abathur copy
>go to a bush near the wall he just meleed
>see the little marker
>wait him out and shoot his ass dead
>wipe their team 5v4
>core them immediately

Feels pretty good
hope that abathur feels like the cocky shitter he is
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>>125855182
Do people just enable colorblind mode because it looks nicer?

because it does look pretty cool
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>tfw dont own a green mount
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Why is Lunara classified as an assassin? She has like no burst damage, she is more of a "spread your poison to everyone to tick them down a little". She is like a specialist like Nazeebo except more squishy and less siege.
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>>125857664
>Tyrande master skin.
>No beautiful pink mount to go with her.
I know the feel.
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>>125857907
Lunara isn't a specialist
she's designed to to damage, it doesn't matter how much burst you have

I also don't know what kind of lunaras you play against, with the right talents that hero has sick burst
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>>125857907
>no burst

>wild vigor AAs from Hammer range through fog of war
>3 vines into a fight
>2 jumps on one target
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>>125857991
I don't know, on chen I just kind of stand there drinking and even a 1 level higher dryad can't break my shield. She seems like she always sucks and has low damage.
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>>125858505
>implying any single assassin can out damage Chen drink
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ok bros, it's that time again, what buy?
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>>125858505
...most heroes can't break your shield with pure damage.
One of the few that come to mind would be nazeebo (who is a specialist by the way, ruining your point), falstad with a sustain damage build, thrall above level 16, and jimminy raynor with giant killer
How often do you play chen?
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>>125858565
AA valla can
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>>125858684
Raynor, valla seem to have no problem breaking it, and raynor doesn't even need to knock me away. Lunara spamming all those abilities like her ult 3 times and autoing me can't do anything.
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Why are people doing the boss with 5 enemies up and nearby? And why aren't they listen to the fucking danger pings?
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>>125858828
>>125858684
She doesn't seem like either a sustained or burst damage dealer. Like burst from jaina or kael will break it easy, but lunara can't seem to do it as a sustained or burst. She seems like she is a weird middle ground of not being able to do either effectively.
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>>125858621
Mr skeltal
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>>125858860
Why listen to danger pings when you can go for sick plays instead?
https://a.pomf.cat/rursff.webm
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>>125849756
back to reddit
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>>125849756
Do you care?
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>>125849756
I'm proud of you /vg/.
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Tank girl is still best girl.
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>>125849756
You play as Han Solo
Kylo Ren kills you or you don't nuke the death star
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>>125849756
i was spoiled on r/4chan
fuck reddit desu
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>>125821152
>Deckard Cain
literally just a glorified narrator
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When is blizzard going to address the glaring imbalance in their game where 1-2 heroes in each role are so high above the curve that there is literally no reason to pick anyone else?
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>>125856486
>tfw you will never be bro with Green Jesus
But you can. He works at Blizzard.
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>>125860079
People grinding MMR are always going to prefer a few heroes. I don't think that is something that is going to change.

Once they release a lot more heroes I'm sure there will be better variety, but right now there are just too few heroes in each role to really see much diversity.
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>>125860079
>when will blizz nerf kael'thas
Never
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>>125860304
and tyrande raynor and zagara
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>>125860341
Don't talk about nerfing my baby gurl Tyrande.
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>every game feels like 2v5
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>>125860079
>balancing the game based off quickmatch and hero league statistics
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>people still pick Illidan
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>>125860079
>Every support except Malfurion and Tassagod is represented
>Bronzies still think Tyrande is OP
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>>125858621
Sylvanas
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>>125860079
Wow, only one Jaina the scaling changes hit her hard
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>it's a 'Enemy team just so happens to have Medic on cursed hollow while your tyrande defends the core at all times' episode

only constant
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>>125858621
Abathur
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Which hero should I buy now? I have 15k shekels
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>>125861474
Murky
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>>125861240
>your team has Zeratul and Illidan
>they think they can tank things
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>>125860079
>kt in every comp
i'm so tired of this shitty hero in every single game
plus you don't need any fucking skill to do damage with him post lvl 13
really a retard magnet
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>no hots for months
>Down face dryad released
>Zeratul picks shadow assault, Illidan takes hunt and diablo Lightning breath instead of apocalpyse to easily fuck up their engages


Granted, he did a lot of damage, but if I could channel 2000 damage ult over 4 sec on 3 melee people I would do just as much.
Game hasnt changed at all ... and playing Anub and Arthas is still boring.
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>>125861530
Why are murkies with good builds so rare?
People keep going for survivability on a hero with a fucking 5 second respawn timer
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>>125861474
Abathur. Logical Conclusion.
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>>125860505
nerfs for tyrande confirmed for after new year though
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>>125857523
I im not blue red color blind but i like it more that way
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>Zeratul and Nova on enemy team
>Both teams 4 assassins and 1 support thanks to new matchmaking
>telling my team to stop overextending when there are 2 invisible shits on the other team, I can't heal them a lot as Tyrande
>they keep doing it, again and again and again

fun game
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>>125860341
>zagara
Fuck NO.
Its so much to see sylvanas or Illis trying to take you WHILE standing in a creep wave with a hydra + roaches on them.
And thats even BEFORE level 4, shits hilarious and Tass was always a reasonable counter to her, dunno how its after the Tass changes though
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>>125861662
because being a fucking annoyance with bubble build can put much more pressure on tanks than usual, it all depends on your team comp and what is needed of you, not whether you take 10 seconds to come back or not
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>>125861934
>Zeratul
>doing anything other than getting rekt and trying to run away
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How do you force people to board the shuttle as Medic.
Or do they not want to fly to the other side of the map to grab an altar or something?
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>Press shadowstalk
>Automatically win
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>Abathur on my team literally does nothing for most of the game
>When he is doing something its slapping minion waves sometimes dying to them
>Check his account after we lose
>He's rank 20
>He has a massive loss streak as Abathur
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Does anyone else feel like the matchmaking change caused you to lose more games on average?
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>>125862036
How do you put pressure on tanks if you have no damage?
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>>125862926
Show them a good time.
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>>125863080
No. If anything I've been roflstomping more
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>>125862926
Most people have been burned too much to trust in a supports judgement about positioning
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>>125863224
>harassing their squishies
>slowing them down
>body blocking
>getting in the way of skillshots

or just watch this match at 1:00:8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD9ycq17Z7o
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A bit late to the party, but here you go.
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>>125863419
nothing is happening in that video at 1:00:08
nothing is happening at 1:08:00 either
I'm sure as fuck not watching more of that cancerous commentary
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>>125863612
thanks for the view :^)
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>>125863398
>people pushing top while our bottom line is getting rekt almost to the core
>ping at the bot and tell them to board
>only hammer boards
>can't realistically defend the core from boss+5 people
>FU MEDIC U LOST US THE MATCH
really now.
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>Want to play spli tpush Azmodan
>Also want to win
what do
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>>125863612
okay, very slowly
at 1:00:08 the match starts. You get to see the picks.
you obviously have to fast forward to the first teamfight. Can you do that?
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>>125863697
Yeah but there's also these things where the medic flies somewhere and I get in there with the rest of the team without checking because I logically assume he's driving us to the coin turnin because we have 5 coins and there's 1 more needed to fill it up and kill the remaining keep

but the medic instead makes you fly directly into the keep range
where you are then slowed and killed off because the enemy team was pushing that lane out
and you get wiped because the medic runs away without even trying to heal anyone

When things like that happen, you don't even care about that stupid ass medivac again. You just look at it and think "whereever this dumbfuck is going it's not going to be worth it"
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>>125863815
>at 1:00:08 the match starts
No, I went to that time and all I saw was a solid minute of some stupid slag talking and going "ahaha woow... murky ahahah awooow"

Link me to where murky puts pressure on anyone directly, you can't expect anyone to watch this shit
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>>125863863
That's why I tell people that I will ping the destination so they can see I'm not trying to carry them into some shithole.
In QM nobody listens of course, in ranked it's 50/50.
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>>125863949
I know it'd be more reasonable to actually check where it's going, but you get so used to these huge medivac throws you kind of start ignoring it beyond all reason and just hope the medic uses it as an escape in a teamfight instead when he realizes nobody is getting in
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>>125863949
Just do yourself a favor and buy Kael and then complain about shit support.
It's better that way.
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>>125864023
It'd be even more reasonable if Medevac got a nice fat destination marker on map so your team can see you're not trying to ferry them to their doom.
But then WHO WATCHES MAP LEL.
It's just sad that you get Medevac which nobody wants to board and stims which get wasted 90% of time because Raynor decides to gtfo despite 2shields, cleanse and constant healing.
If I didn't get pissed more as non-support I'd stop playing my medic all together.
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>>125864186
Where were you in all my matches? My morales always seems to get offensive grenade talents, waste mana shielding herself, pick the wrong level 1 talent, and stim muradin over raynor.
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>>125863008
>Use shadowstalk preemptively because I know the enemy's team position with owl, and I'm preparing us to gank them
>"why did you use your ult we were full life???"
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>>125864608
>Stim muradin over raynor
not really a bad thing depending on the enemy team
Sometimes stimming your raynor is a big fat "EVERYONE, KILL RAYNOR AS FAST AS YOU CAN" flag. That or they'll just stun and disengage.
Both things you can't really do vs a stimmed mountain king doing like stone cold steve austin and stunning the fuck out of someone
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>>125862249

The one on our team, sure.

On the other team though he was always waiting for anyone to stay alone with just enough health to be killed in 1 second.

Is that blurry shit Zeratul calls stealth so difficult to see?
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>>125865026
Zeratul is a bit different from Nova since he can blink in from out of range and start while Nova tends to reveal her presence by dropping the clone.
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I never say anything because I'm probably as bad as most people I find in QM if not shittier, but jesus christ, why would someone get Lunara and go dive 1v2-3 and blame his team when he gets killed.

All while asking for teamwork in a team full of glass cannons that spend most time respawning than playing, all when we're way behind on XP. I don't know how I stopped myself from telling him he doesn't know how to play.
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>>125864705
>Always shadowstalk before things get rough to keep people topped off.
>Get Battle Momentum so I can ult every 30 seconds.
"Quit wasting you're ult noob you're our only healer."
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>>125865218
Call out shitters when you can. The most they can do is report you which Blizzard has confirmed is a placebo.
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>It's a 'your team fears the enemy hammer and refuses to just jump in and rush her even if she's alone so she ends up killing all four of your teammates by herself' episode

thanks hammer free week
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>>125866095
>Play Jimmy
>Ping Hammer
>Run in, stun with Q you DID get the stun, didn' you?
>Have your team melt her dumb ass
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>>125863419
Thanks for this. Just bought murky and was going instagib build because I don't know what other playstyle he's got.
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>>125866095
>playing falstad
>wait until hammer roots itself
>overdrive
>hammer
>boom it
>zap her in the dick with my laser
>she's at 10% HP now and slowed

Now even the braindead retards on your team will rush her
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>>125866095
only constant

If there was a way to autoselect your entire team and force them to do something smart this would be the most played multiplayer game in the world
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>>125826487
>>
>be Leoric
>30 minute game on dragon shite
>shrines about to activate
>we just had a fight, nobody died but everyone is low
>help Valla do siege giants so we have something pushing while the great stalling happens at the shrines
>their ETC jumps in, knocks us out and mosh pits
>blizzard fixed the Leoric bug so the spooky hand grabbed him
>he gets the siege giants and we all sit there for 5 seconds
>spooky hand kills him

A fine steal but we need 5 seconds to kill the mercs and he needs 60 to respawn.

also their master skin nova then tried to kill Valla but she missed snipe. She then attempted to get her with precision strike but Valla just walked out of it. Nova then got entombed and donated her bones to my Kingdom. Why are Novas so shit?
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Possible hack?
Just doing some casual QM's as Nova (yes she is annoying etc.) and they had a stitches on the enemy team, he seemed to manage to hook me out of stealth every single time no matter where I was.
The first few times when he managed to hook me whiles mounted at max range me and my team were just saying how lucky he was, but then it happened every single time.
There was a point where they were attacking a keep and I was in the gap between fountain and keep but still besides the keep quite far back and he just hooks me like I'm visible...
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>>125868428
No hack my man just godlike reads
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>>125826487
fuck supports
>>
Murky, Sylvanas, Li Li, Brightwing and Diablo.
On cursed hollow.
Against:
Jo, Uther, Sgt Hammer, Kael and Falstad

E P I C
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Is it true they are going to nerf my Tyrande?
>play her from the start
>people constantly tell me she is shit because she can't heal for shit
>everybody ignores the trait and billion range stun
>finally give her a decent heal over time ultimate
>yay, I can finally play her in peace
>some faggot pro team says she's op because she goes really well with the meta heroes
>people suddenly start bitching about her being OP because global heals while suddenly remembering her trait
>muh 60%+ winrate in a 50% winrate game.

I know these rumors are probably true and she's going to become shit like bw did.
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>>125868739
Those are both pretty good viable teams. Especially on cursed hollow.
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>>125868739
Who won?
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buts
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>>125870062
panda team
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>>125870586
nerf chen pls
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>>125870062
Blue team
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>>125870829
>expecting to win against premade
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>>125870994
ive done that
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>>125870994
>level 9
>QM against 3 lvl 40's for no reason at all
>my team's highest level player is 16
>they 40's are a premade and so's the 16 and a 10 on my side
>shit on the 40's anyway because our Butcher is a god so i just stick to him and pretend i'm more than a regen buff
Do these levels matter?
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>>125872821
levels don't matter, ranks can
theoretically a premade has coms and will work together
>>
Shouldn't this shit be less dead than normal on a saturday
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>le don't kill Li Li meme
WHY
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>>125873924
only thing i care about is do not bully brightwing
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>>125874129
fag
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>>125872821
>Do these levels matter?
If something is inevitable, not something earned. Then no, it kinda doesn't matter. I can get level 40 by just playing a bunch, I don't have to do well. I can just que and feed and I'll get 40 in a month or whatever as long as I keep playing.
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>someone picks tyrande in draft
>raynor says YOU PICK TYRANDE AGAINST THEIR TEAM? EAT SHIT GET CANCER AND DIE.
>STFU AND LOSE

wow, some people playing this game have serious issues...
we won easily btw
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>>125875082
>raynor with the lowest hero damage
Seriously dude, when are you going to realize other peoples opinions don't matter?
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>>125875082
>that siege and assists
Merc Lord splitpush Raynor?
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>>125875203
I was just surprised is all. I can't fathom why he was so strongly convinced that tyrande is bad against their comp
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>>125875082
B-but Tyrande is OP.
B-but muh 60%+ winrate.

Retards like this and retards like that Raynor are like the opposites on retard spectrum.

>raynor highest siege, lowest hero dmg
Was he farming stacks the whole game as usual?
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>>125875369
>>125875331
he took "give me more". was just holding a bottom or top temple most of the time or getting mercs while we rotated and clean up the enemy heroes. this comp makes for a fun gank squad, reminds me of the early days when kerrigan+arthas were everywhere.
>>
>decide to try HL again after a month of inactivity
>leavers and pick ragers at 3200 MMR
>had a retard that troll picked gaz because "jaina is out of meta you fucking retards"
>all my 10 games were complete and utter stomps, one way or another, usually because of someone who is so visibly retarded it's not even funny
>one team has 2 premades, the other one has none
>check hotslogs, premades of high MMR people with sub 1500 MMR people
these retards at blizzard fucked up again
basically, if you premade with a bronzelord, it will destroy the game for everyone by randomly adding retards to both teams

the high MMR chap is the only one who ever does anything, the rest goes EXACTLY like a bronze league game

at 3200 MMR

fuck me, there used to a few differences between diamond and bronze plays, but i guess now i'm stuck with tyrandes that never land their stun even with an uther on the team, or kaels that try to solo the core at 30% hp and sit in the middle of the minion pack so they get destroyed by the aoe
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>>125875774
nice blogpost bro
dont play on weekends you dump nigger
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Bets?
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>>125875874
red
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these fucking games

murkies died total 56 times
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>>125875874
Depends on how good their Nova is.
If shit then Blue.
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>>125875874
Red.
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>>125876030
That's the whole point of the hero you noob!
___:^)_______
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>>125875874
>2 premades on 1 team
>0 premades on the other
???????
>>
>Muradin
>punch enemy Kael in the middle of my team and jump back to stun
>they _ALL_ fall back
>Kael throws shit at them while they run then stuns me and gtfos
>ffs nice ult muradin
So what the fuck am I supposed to do.
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>>125875874
>red has at least 1, possibly 2 Russians
ruh roh
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>>125876181
fuck you nigger, everyone knows that the only way to use haymaker is to help enemies escape
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>>125876181
not grab a shit ult lmao
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Yo, how do I get better with best ass in game? I just lost a game really bad and blame myself for it
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>>125876698
>shit ult
it's a crazy good tool though.
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>>125876181
>Pick Avatar
>get big
>noobs fuckin run
>team mates are all confident that you're invincible and stop being chicken shits.
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>>125877004
>it's a crazy good tool though.
that's the weirdest fucking thinking. Why do noobs think like this?
>The thing I'm doing isn't working
>stop doing it
>But it's a good thing!

Alright bro, you're the pro. I guess it's everyone elses fault on your team then and we can leave it at that, right?
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>>125877143
>knock a squishy right in the middle of your team
>team runs away instead of wrecking the squishy
yep it's the ult.
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>>125877221
Yeah bro. But now that you know that's going to happen, who's fault is it that you keep picking it?
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>>125875874
Blue won, rank 5 Li Li can't carry
Their Nova did go triple tap + Psi-Op Rangefinder and Rehgar went bloodlust for some reason though.
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>>125877363
i only sometimes pick it, when i assume people will actually react when i push something into them.
that match i THOUGHT they will because it seemed that way early game.
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>>125877534
>when i assume
>i thought

stop thinking and DO
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>>125877669
i DID but the team got scared for some reason and ran away.
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>>125876181
Pick Avatar the good ult.
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>30 minute match, no one has said a word the entire time
>3 teammates die because they didn't listen to retreat pings during a fight
>20 seconds later, hammer pings the entire enemy team with "kill this hero" at a siege camp

>i say "can't, it's a 2v5"
>hammer suddenly says "muted"
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>>125877534
>Become unkillable. Stun everyone with every melee.
>Vs a displacement tool.
>As a tank.

You are shit for picking haymaker ever.
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>>125877221
>implying this ever happens against good players
>implying that if a shitter kael was caught overextended so bad that you could use that shit ult without leaping, you couldn't just kill him with the stun and bodyblocking
>implying using your jump offensively is a good idea
just pick avatar you moron
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>>125877896
don't want to listen to a negative nancy
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>>125877221

This happens to me as Diablo pretty often. I'll wait at the edge of an objective or lane and charge a squishy right into my teams arms, and they'll scatter. I've found it helps to ping first if you can so everyone knows what's going on. Especially with haymaker when that's a rarely seen ult and nobody is expecting you to do Diablo's job.
>>
So, /hotsg/, I have Leo, Diablo, Murabro, Jojo for when my team needs warriors, I have Jimmy, Tychus and Valla as my ranged sustained damage guys, I have most of the good supports, namely THE LIGHT ABANDONS NO MAN, Tyrande and Li Li. I need someone that can delete their high damage dealers instantly for when my team decides that killing Hammer/Valla/Karl isn't all that important. Who do I buy?
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>>125878057
kael
>>
>>125878057

A burst assassin?
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>>125878057
le 3 bullets not man
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how to lose the game on the first pick
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>>125878808
nazzebo isn't that bad
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>>125877004
>avatar+stoneform is 4k heals
>other ult does nothing
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have i become the best quick memer
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Lili butt skin when Blizzard?
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>>125878808
Nazeebo is a pretty solid character. I'd be more worried about having Illidan without a team built around him.
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>>125878057
kael, jaina, sonya, murky because not everyone knows that you can cleanse his grab
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>>125878808
>picking illidan without double supports
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>>125878852
>>125879312
I meant the first picks on my team.
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>play Illidan
>get blinded

NICE GAME HOTSBABBIES
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>>125879225
What kind?
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>>125879578
Smelly, poopy butt.
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>>125878057
Jaina, Kael or Nova.
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>>125879725
I'm sure her butt is the smelliest.
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>>125879854
>>125879725
>>125879578
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Is /hotsg/ a fan of Sonya?
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>>125880085
an interesting point
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>>125880647
nah she's dumb

i wish we had the female monk in hots instead
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are TLV viable? i'm sort of interested in playing them but not completely sure about spending 10k
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>>125880779
they are insane in solo queue
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>>125880779
yeah
each viking have muradin hp
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>>125880768
Why not both?
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>>125880951
because we don't have the female monk
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>>125880768
i wish we had a male barbarian just so that we had some attractive male heroes. There are so many waifus and no husbandos (unless you are a daddyfag, then uther counts)
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>Russian Cho'gall
I'm done.
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>>125881120
hopefully if the wizard comes it's not a fucking male wizard though
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New BW skin when?!
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Explain please
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>>125881183
I'm sure every diablo class will come eventually, but yeah, he looks to faggy
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>>125881397
The game ended while you were using ultimate evo on KT.
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>>125881315
>female
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>>125881397
I believe you completed your win 3 daily quest.
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>>125881546
>faggy wizzard
So basically Kael?
>>125881642
Anon, Brightwing IS female.
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>>125881642
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Why is Zeratul even a thing.
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>>125882194
Because he was the leader of the Protoss and the only memorable Dark Templar.
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>>125882287
I mean why people pick him when the team clearly can't support that and then they proceed to whine and try to be Muradin.
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>>125882194
he was cool when he had rewind not at level 20 and his double singularity was dealing full damage
right now he is complete trash
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>>125882357
Because they have no idea how to play the game besides using le edgy ninjaman

Same reason why people still try to use Illidan, which just leads to ez wins.
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>>125882194
To keeps the Maiev fangays out, I guess

FUCK
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>>125881779
>So basically Kael?
that too. They are too similar. which is why I think we are getting a female wizard. She seems different enough from Jaina.
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>tfw you pick Artanis.
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>>125882287
He was never the leader of the Protoss. He was for a very short while Leader of the Dark Templar before he exiled himself.
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>>125882761
I fugged up. I noticed it after I typed it, my b
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>>125882626
you mean appearance wise?

because their spells are pretty different
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>>125882646
>Jimmy and Artanis
I can dig that
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Is there a better hero for shitstomping idiots in QM games?
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The new matchmaking is literally worse than before. Couldn't they just not do anything like they always do?
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>>125883371
heh
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>tfw you slap the enemy core to death as Abathur
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>>125883475
>fw i afk with the abathur whenever i have one on my team
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>>125883149
>BW
>winning
teach me your ways
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How different is the ranked from QMs player wise? I wonder if i should buy stuff for heroes i like, or heroes i don't like to get enough to play the ranked.
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>>125884290
having all the 2k heroes is enough to play ranked
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>>125884406
I know that. That is why i'm asking. I don't want to buy shit heroes i hate just to find out that ranked is shit with dead chat and zero teamwork also.
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>>125814229
Lili looks so confused.
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who sylvanasxarthas here
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>>125884481
nah just do what you want m8
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>>125884481
It's pretty much the same as QM you get some guys that will work well with the team and then others that just bitch constantly, and then those that wont talk at all. Usually your team will be fine if you're all communicating well in the hero pickings.
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Three games in a row where the entire enemy team is a 5 man stack and my team are 5 people on their own. Cunty game.
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>>125884481
you really like to play less than 10 heroes?
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>>125884694
their MMR is lower than yours so you should still win ;^)
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>>125884481
it's less shit than QM, at least
but don't think you'll stop getting le ebin Abathur/Murky/Cho'Gall/Nova/Gazlowe pickers on your team
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>>125884698
there's not much more than that that are viable anyways
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>>125884698
Actually i only play one hero, i tried almost all others and they bored me pretty much
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>>125884784
>Still thinking Nova is bad.
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>>125884874
is it murky?
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>>125884406

plus jaina
plus tyrande
plus kael'thas
plus tassadar

those plus all 6 2Ks is enough for HL
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>>125885091
I wouldn't recommend buying tassadar nowadays. Poor tassadar, he used to be so good.
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>>125884874
>I only play one hero
Yeah, stay out of ranked.
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>>125885065
Nova. I really enjoy her because i can rack up kills like crazy, pick off fleeing enemies, and pretty much solo any nonwarrior hero
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>>125885091
probably put zagara over jaina if you're getting kael'thas too
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>>125884914
>Nova being slightly better now also increased her player base IQ
nah m8, she's better but still a retard magnet
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>>125885301
that's.. uh... that's... I'll be honest buddy, you'll get some other non-pretty replies.
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>>125885301
whew lawd... see >>125885460
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>>125885473
I'm so sorry for not playing those correct OP meme heroes everyone else plays just because they are OP. I play for fun, not as a chore.
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>>125885460
>Slightly better.

Nova is insane now in HL because of how uncoordinated everyone is and how easy she can pick off any straggler. She can straight up carry games now.
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>>125885301
THE MEME IS REAL
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>>125885612
No, you're definitely playing a meme hero.
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>>125885612
>yfw you are the meme
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who d2g here
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>>125885612
>Nova isn't a meme hero
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>>125885612
guess whos in the box
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>>125885617
>Nova is good against retards
that's not a good argument, family
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>>125885816
Diablo 2 has a general?
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>>125886012
I said when people are uncoordinated which they usually are in HL because no coms and no way to constantly talk to each other.

Pinging only works so well and once she gets stacks she can kill pretty much any person on the other team in one burst.
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>>125885816
Disgaea?
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>>125885923
Is it LiLi?
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Why the fuck don't we have a proper Nuclear Launch hero?

Nova uses a Precision Strike laser cannon from orbit, it's NOT a nuke.

I want full on red dot on the ground, impending doom style, everyone hears on their screen "Nuclear launch detected", etc.
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>>125885617
she can carry her team straight into the garbage can.

if it's last pick, enemy team has lots of squishies, and your comp isn't missing any crucial components, nova can be a useful pick. but that's never how you fags pick her. it's just instalock every time, zero discussion or thought
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Alright is this game actually good coming from dotes
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>>125886192
It's the butt and the voice.
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multiboxing 4 HotS instances
smurfin' la vida loca
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>>125886192
She can kill Raynor before his passive procs. She can pick off more than just squishy targets now.
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>>125886313
It is and it gets better and deeper as you play it.
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>>125886175
It would be op you shitcake. Nova was suppoed to have the nuke, just watch the hots cinematic trailer, but they nerfed it
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>>125886175
Odin has nuclear launch but yeah I know what you mean.
>>125886132
Maybe, if she Is its going to get pretty kinky with Nova
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>>125876889

Have in mind that your best tools as a support are your stun and hunter's mark, not your healing

Get the shield at lvl 4

Remember that shadowstalk heals but not enough to survive some situations, and that it heals again when it ends

If everything goes wrong, go meme owl build every game until you feel more comfortable with her and start positioning yourself better and so on.


And stop getting distracted by her ass
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Cute and Fun.
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>tfw forget to use viridian spheres as Kael all the time
>tfw still nuke people's asses off
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>>125886638
>nipple rings
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Quickmeme is more and more just a joke mode jeez
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>>125886313
it's fun

it's not very competitive, keep that in mind
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>>125886876
It always was the "wild west" of the modes.
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>>125886638
>cute
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Mortal Tyreal skin when?

WE WUZ ANGELS
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>>125886495
That belly button
muh cute
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>>125887119
t. Azmodan Barbosa
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>>125884874
>theres only 4 abilities not counting extras picked up from talents
>playing other heroes bored me, id much rather push the same 4 abilities forever than have any variety

You are bronze AND retarded, which explains why you only play nova. Im guessing you were bored with other heros because you were on the respawn timer most of the game. It is pretty boring being dead isnt it?
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>>125887119
>yfw it comes with a new ult.
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Who is the best hero from the free rot for cleaning up lanes and taking out forts alone?
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>>125887507
Fat spiderman
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>>125887507
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>>125887507
fun-and-cutemodan
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>Tyrande in my team complaining that Morales is OP and needs to be nerfed.
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>>125887852
>there's people right now in the world who think that Morales is OP
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Dead.
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>>125887936
>people
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>>125889172
Again?
Stop feeding.
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I think I have cancer.
We had no void prison and no diablo stun ... he dealt a lot of damage with lightning breath at least
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>>125889294
I want to that charmeleon.
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>>125889428
>that illidan
>that kt damage
lmao
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>>125889428
I actually see a lot of Zeratuls going Shadow Assault now. I assume he was targeting Kael with it? When they have a big priority target like that it's actually not that bad.
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Do demon generals soak lane exp?
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So, is Space Leoric coming out before 2016 and/or Graymane?
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>>125889589
Yes.

>>125889627
Greymane is confirmed for jan 12.
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>>125889589
Only if they last hit
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>>125889627
I think the datamined date was Jan 19th.
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>>125889724
That's for Space Leoric.
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>>125889559
>>that illidan
He was diving KT and anub top nonstop, you would think people learn from their mistakes as soon as they die the third time, getting Ed and blasted by KT but no, he insisted on fighting 1vs2.

>>125889582
>I assume he was targeting Kael with it?
No clue, most of the time we had to fight 4vs5 because Zera wanted to be a stealthy wiener and did fuck all but trying to clean up.


I also have a huge problem going Odin on Tychus, the windup time on it freaks me out, its so easy to bait it, but laser is pretty meh aswell and quite mediocre with the 20 talent.
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>>125889717
>>125889848

well, 2 things I probably won't be buying
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wow epic, nice matchmaking blizz, a++++
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>>125889940
>not wanting Space Leoric AKA Darth Vader

It's his legendary skin and it looks sick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSe84wKrCMc
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>>125889589
All heroes' summons soak exp as long as they get the last hit on the minions
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>>125890091

I want it, I can't really spend what it's probably going to cost (assuming it's a legendary skin) without the 50% sale
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THAT'S THE KINDA HEALING MAMMA LIKES
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>>125890091
>Blizz is able to produce this
>while making such a downer portrait for Lunara

Meh.
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>>125889918
Odin is a such a good ult. I just wish it would increase his health pool like Meta does for Illidan.
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>>125890020
What's the issue?
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>>125889191
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>>125890457
>I just wish it would increase his health pool like Meta does for Illidan.
I agree with Blizz that giving Tychus another healthbar when he activated Odin was a bit OP, but come on man, give him back at least SOME sort of health or extra shield when hes in the Odin.
I hate being forced to go heal and shield talent because I know I will get targeted all the time because Im as mobile as a snail.
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>>125890457
That ult was amazing when you could go in it and you wouldn't die if it fell.
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>>125890813
that shit was fucking broken and you know it

double health bars, healing inside odin, Tychus life steal still affecting him, super safe heals (Tychus' health could be healed while inside Odin, you couldn't heal Odin itself though)

so you had a hero with essentially 3 health bars

Tychus + Odin + second fully healed Tychus

shit was broken as fuck
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>>125889428
>illidan has 18 deaths and less than 1/3 of both diablos' hero damage
this makes me feel better about the teams that i get
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>>125891197
and thats why it was amazing unless you know were on the other team
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>>125891237
when will people stop falling for-

wait. no.

he actually has 18 deaths.

holy fuck
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>>125891302
granted, i do miss the hilarious deep diving Tychus could to, fuck up the backline, and just walk away completely unscathed

still waiting on Blizzard to come out with their so called buffs to Tychus to make him a stronger hero killer, i miss him

most based dialog lines
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Is windfury still bugged?
Does that mean Thrall is less powerful? or I should just ignore that talent?
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>>125892482
it's not gonna be fixed for a while

it took 2 patches for Blizz to fix the stacking bug with Amzodan's Black Pool and Muradin's Perfect Storm
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>>125892718
So, maybe next year?
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Thoughts on Stitches?
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>>125893041
Stitches wants to play
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>play on weekends
>get rank 2
Why do I even bother.
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>>125890813
It's not even what I'm asking for, just that he gets more health when he's in it.
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>>125893041

so bad people are resorting to using auto_skillshot_pro to land hooks with him

they don't realise it's the most obvious and easily bannable hack in the game
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>>125892780
looks like it

they're probably gonna fuck something up with the release of Graymane. i'm guessing they'll fix windfury but fuck up something else.
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why did i get 289 points for this match? i used up my initial bonus pool a long time ago and have been getting +/- 100. our team's average MMR was 300 above theirs. do you get more if it's a complete stomp? what determines it?
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>>125893496

>2K hero damage

what in the actual dicks were you doing all game
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>>125893705
>129,481 healing.

I'm guessing healing.
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>>125893496
Nice damages.
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>>125883149
I had a Brightwing provide great support with my ETC earlier today. She and Nova roamed while me, Diablo and Anubarak soaked lanes. Good times
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>>125893705
winning
we had an impenetrable front line so there was no point risking my life going up to poke someone with my shitty AA. only damage i did was from grenades
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>>125893954

honestly you could have gone for the full pacifist mode there and instead you accidentally pressed E twice or so
>>
i wanna see tyrande doing twerking
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>>125893041
A tank with great self sustain, his aoe and fast health regen allows him to be a nuisance on lanes. His ults can either remove heroes from team fights or apply massive aoe damage and slow that can be useful on securing certain map objectives.
Plus he's got great dialogue between other heroes
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Thank you Blizzard for your excellent matchmaking system
>inb4 quick match
Yes I'm bitching about QM
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>>125894578
Why?
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>>125894775
it's just le QM dude it doesn't even le count xD
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>>125894775
>that resolution
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Anyone else still grinding smurf accounts for the bike mount? Shit is hilarious.
Winning without any effort gets boring fast though
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>>125894578

disgusting
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>>125894578

illidan you're blind you dumb fuck you couldn't see that tyrande bitch twerking her purple backside even if she did so in front of your sorry ass I mean shit nigga what have you done for the last ten thousand years apart from sit imprisoned in some fucking middle-o-nowhere guarded by some tesco value version of that same cockbollocking tyrande and as soon as you escape because you're in the nexus an' shit innit all you do is bitch about your ten thousand fuccen years and then getting immediately dismissed by the same dickswallowing tyrande you mention constantly like god damn faggot get it together
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>>125895086
i kek'd
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>>125894775
How is this even possible? I can't win this quickly even against bots.
But then again, I can't capture all the towers on towers on doom playing against bots but I somehow managed to lose all of them in qm with some retards.
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>>125895034
You just creating e-mails? What are you using?
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>>125894775
Both teams have a support and no warrior. That was the only change they made. To make teams had a warrior and a support.
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>>125895034
I tried actually playing on my first smurf.
Had some fun absolutely stomping everyone with jaina for a while. Then I started to get really mad at my team's plays and had to remind myself that some of them are legit new players.
AFK'd traning while doing something else the other 3.
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>>125891645
I heard he was supposed to be a melee-ish bruiser who would ram people and shoot them to bits
Blizzpls
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>>125895278
>Create email
>Click referral link from your main account
>make bean net account with smurfmail
>level to 10
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So what does everyone think of this Chinese bootleg cartoon of HOTS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U5jZaaBvd0

It's sorta cool.
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>>125895631
Does it have Li Li?
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>blizz advertises lunara as being the best chaser ever
>she's awful at chasing but good at poke and harass
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>>125895631
Not yet, but it's very chinese.

I do want a Slash ETC now.
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>>125895631

better than anything Blizz have made
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>>125895631

jesus christ non-valla
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>>125895631
Nova a cute.
kek.
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>>125895631

Kaelthas has kamen rider music, but why
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>>125895631
Is that fucking music from doom at 4:48?
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>>125896163
At least post the bigger image you cuntdwaddling fucknugget.
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>>125895970
Post the Artanis one
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>>125895631
if it didn't that that retarded language, i could dig it

it's cringey as fuck, but valla and nova a cutie
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>>125895918

just like my japanese animes
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>>125896412
That minion is kawaii.
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>>125895631
This fucking Tyrael.
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>>125896412
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>>125895034
I like the way her boobs are drawn.
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>>125896786
Dat ass.
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lewd
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>>125896786

nice
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Would anyone mind helping me get Cho'Gall?
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>love enchantress in dota
>love the lunara concept
>she releases with a horrible movement hopping gait, the health of a gnat, and no ability to escape even though her range isn't any better than normal
>tfw
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>mfw the 1st episode is the reenactment of blizzard's CGI trailer.
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>>125895086
Is it true that after that, Tyrande started developing feelings for Arthas?
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>>125897439
>tfw Jimmy has a passive that makes his attack range and vision better than everyone else while doing insane damage and having a passive that heals him after he gets low.
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>>125897680
what am i looking at?
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>>125897969
>>125895631
This
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>afk 90% of the game on abathur in vs AI
>no one notices
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>>125898140
>implying that's not what Abathur does every game anyway
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>>125897225
EU or NA?
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>>125898302
EU. Can you not play on the other regions?
Gimmers#2978 battletag
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>>125898453
Nope you have to have an account on that region. I'm NA sorry, maybe someone else can help you.
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>>125897945
>tfw you bully a Lunara out of lane
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chinese nova tits
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>>125898268
meme characters are great for afking through daily quests

no one knows how they work
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>>125898634
Raynor has a longer attack range than she does, more health, more damage and a heal of course he should bully her out of lane.
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>tfw you buy a skin for a hero you don't own
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>>125898634
post the Artanis one
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>>125899625
I wouldn't know that face. I'm not a god damned retard.
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>>125899674
I didn't screenshot anything from that scene.
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>>125898956

Mammaries are a recurring theme in this. Eventually NotSonya attacks Lowegaz and the only thing he pays any sort of attention to are her udders. As typical of a goblin.
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>>125899625
uhhh how did you fuck up that badly?
This thread needs more jimmy posting btw
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>>125899625

I thought the game wouldn't allow you to do that, but I guess not
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>>125898956
dat o face though
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>>125900131
They won't stop themselves from getting money.
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>tfw lunara is too strong people are already begging for nerfs
is she the most op hero they have ever released?
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>>125900354
>people want to nerf the one talent that stops her from being free kills for Kael'thas or Nova
loving
every
lel
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>>125900354
No. Scrubs with bitch about absolutely everything.
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>still no bans for HL
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>>125899689
>>125900008
>>125900131
I can use it during the free weeks. 8)
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>>125900354
No. People will bitch about everything because they are retarded and it will be easier to blame others for their incompetence.

>Lunara kited me, I can't kill her
>nerf plz
>nova ganked me because I wasn't with the team
>nerf plz
>Tyrande so OP I can't dive retardedly as a tank because hunter's mark
>nerf plz
>Morales heals are retarded because I'm to stupid to focus her
>nerf plz

The list goes on. It's easier to bitch than adapt.
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>>125900354
Greater Spell Shield is one of the most well designed talents in the game from both a gameplay and lore standpoint and shouldn't be touched ever
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>>125901259
And that's exactly why it will be touched.
Blizzard can't do anything right.
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>>125901091
>Lunara kited me, I can't kill her
I always laugh when I hear someone complaining about Lunara's kiting. Unless you're an idiot she can't kite you. Her stutterstep/run animation is too bad.
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>>125901556
>What's that Kael, Muradin, Uther, Raynor and Tyrande are in almost every game.
>Better nerf Lunara.

I'm just glad they confirmed the team was looking at Tyrande for changes.
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>>125901641
she can kite with star wood spear just because it's such a massive increase to range. especially when combined with natural perspective
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>>125901941
Nothing wrong with Tyradne. Just because some faggot pro team said she's OP because she goes too well with Kerrigan and Muradin doesn't mean she is.
A month ago people would give you shit for playing her instead of a "real support".
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>THE HUNT IS ON
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>>125898453
go on the cho gall channel or reddit channel. people are desperate to give him away.
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>>125902131
Only for a few seconds. You're not going to get killed in those few seconds unless you were already in bad shape.
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>>125900354
>greater spell shield
>stronger than chain bomb

yikes better nerf it fast!
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>>125901556
they're not gonna nerf it just because DB tweeted at somebody. "we'll keep an eye on it" is PR for "that was the stupidest thing i heard this week, thanks for the money though"

>>125902161
>people give tyrande shit for not being a real support
>tyrande gets a massive buff to her supporting capabilities
>people no longer give tyrande shit for not being a real support
wew
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>>125902161
She's picked in 97% of games in HL and has the single best trait in the game. Yes there is a problem with Tyrande.
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>>125894775
premade?
you can stomp all day if you get people to huddle hammer while people bring you exp by not grouping up. has nothing to do with matchmaking
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>>125902386
There is nothing wrong with her, she isn't very strong by herself, the only thing that has changed from like march or when they did her rework has been adding a small heal to shadowstalk so it's a usable ultimate.
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>>125902161
>Nothing wrong with Tyrande.

Her trait is unbalanced. It's too strong with scaling now.
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>>125897945
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Why don't you have Jimmy at level 20 yet, /hotsg/?
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>>125843147
Then he blamed team and said "noobs can't stay alive I get big mosh no follow-up gg"
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>>125902386
>97%
Did you know that 85% of all stats are made up on the spot?

She had this trait forever and nobody fucking said anything.
How about instead of nerfing heroes into shit they'll improve the weaker ones and actually put some efforts into designing new interesting ones.
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>>125902521
Vaulnerability is brought by other heroes, and usually in aoe form at 16. Nothing at all wrong with her trait.
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>People unironically like playing right click spam heroes.
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>>125902559
i'm never first pick
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>>125902559
I haven't played much since they buffed him.
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>>125902658
This. Sylvanas and Jaina can put it on the entire team. Most of the important fights are post 16 anyway.
B-but muh pro team said she's t-too good.
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>>125902703
>people actually unironically choose to play Kael'thas and Jaina over Raynor, Valla, and Falstado
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>>125902386


yeah she has no reliable escape, low health, and weak waveclear. lots of problems that need fixing
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>>125902931
Burst damage is far more satisfying.
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>>125902891
The only reason she is good now is because the meta is very gank heavy, and that's what she does. Her trait isn't a problem, the only thing they would probably do is increase the CD on her shadowstalk ult if they did nerf her.
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>>125903149
It also only works really good if you are premade.
Coordinating ganks in pubs is not that easy.
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>>125903369
Yeah she is mainly a synergy hero. By herself Tyrande is pretty weak, can't heal herself well, no real escape, low damage. She just works well in groups, and we need more actual utility heroes like her. She is just pretty unique in the ability to group buffing and comboing with other heroes.
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>>125902931
Probably because they're more fun to play. Right clicking people and skirting around is boring as fuck. Nothing feels as satisfying as blowing people up with a chain bomb or ring of loss.
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>>125903140
>>125903652
>heroes are only fun when they make michael bay look subtle
Just means I get to play the best heroes more often.
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>team feeds 7 times in first 2 minutes
oh boy here we go
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>>125896063
Is Saint Seiya you DUMB FUCK
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>>125902525

I don't play him a ton.

But I'm awful at assassins so I'm glad he exists.
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>>125854347
Why do you need someone to spoonfeed you?
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>>125898140
>tfw you afk in vs AI as abathur for great shekels
>tfw 3 people try to teach you how to abathur
I AM PLAYING THIS CHARACTER THE WAY HE WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED
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>diving 2v5 while everyone else pings retreat
>ignoring your cocooned healer
>having 3x as many deaths as everyone else
>blaming the dps because they have 5% less hero damage than the enemy dps
i want all sonyas to die
i'd rather have a gazlowe or a nova than these cocky shits
i spent 90% of my time in cocoons every team fight because sonya has no clue what it is at rank 10
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>>125904813
lol
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>>125876030
>lunara outdamaged by murky that died 32 times
>lunara outdamaged by azmodan
>lunara outdamaged by illidan
>lunara outdamaged by Chen
You are shit
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All glory to mediocre gold mmr play!
>Would you believe I got shit talked most of the game?
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>>125905441
wow, how did you die 29 times as aba?
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>>125903906
Falstad and Valla aren't the best right now. Who even thinks that.
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>>125905524
It's a special kind of skill, you just can't teach it.
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>>125905524
>this confirmed to be a meme
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>>125905664
Falstad played right con do a lot of damage tho
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>>125876030
Well its not like he gave extra XP I don't see the problem especially if he's dying just as much as everyone else.
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>>125905664
>o-only tier 1 heroes are the best because winning is all that m-matters
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>first pick leoric
>the enemy picks cho'gall
okay then
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>>125906138
forgot picture, bets?
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>>125906138
somewhere on the enemy team is a player that is actually good at the game and tries their best to help the team win

weep for them, anon. for they are the ONLY CONSTANT
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>>125895631
oh my goodness
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>>125906350
>Abathur
it could have been such an easy game against Cho'gall but that faggot had to ruin it.
Good luck, anon
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>>125906350
red
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>>125906350
>all these double digit ranks
It's random. You're all garbage so the picks don't matter.
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>>125906350
meme double flip
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>>125906350
Fun game for leoric. You best be going W build with entomb and spectral leech
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>kael + rexxar + muradin + tyrande + raynor
vs
>butcher + abathur + uther + zagara + stitches

am i about to get memed
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>>125907206
>Uther running from someone he can solo.
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>Mewnfarez wins with no-healer Gazlowe, TLV and Nova against KT and Tyrande

>yet the games I find are lost by retards going AFK for minutes on end when we have the comp advantage

It isn't fucking fair sometimes.
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>>125905441
I literally get flamed as Abathur and TLV all the time, then when we win the game because of body soaking, mines or TLVs broken soak they say nothing. I guess it's the reason we can turn off allied chat.
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>>125907642
>Tyrande solo healer
>implying it's hard to win against that
easy game for Nova I suppose, since Tyrande can't heal for shit
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>>125907858

They had Malf too. Just Malf isn't gamebreaking like KT and Tyrande are 90% of the time.
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>>125906063
>I literally have no reading comprehension.

>>125905870
Yeah he can doesn't mean he's the best though.
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I haven't had a need to take Abolish Magic at 20; can it be used when you're stunned? The wording implies it a little.
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>>125906350
yup we lost
the abathur went full splitpush build and then sat behind walls
Bruh your monstrosity doesn't help us get the temples
Spectral Leech was fun though. Artanis ran to me thinking he can fight me and a few seconds later i was still at full hp and he was very dead.
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>>125907642
Their KT and diablo were fucking awful. Plus the lvl 20 play again is broken as fuck.
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>>125908616
Monstrosity sit behind wall Abathurs are pure cancer. Its 4vs5 all game. Do these people ever win with this method? I don't get why they do this.
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>stream hangs at the perfect moment
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>>125909309
>High MMR means you have decent positioning.

Fuck this game.
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someone link me that gif of the guy being triggered, i need to post it because two people in my HL draft are hovering cho'gall
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>>125909702
gonna be hard to make a .gif of ur post in time
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>>125909702
I would post the one I made but I'm on my phone. Here's one that I googled for you.
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>>125908221
Technically no, but I think it kinda works like cleanse, where it gives like less than a second of unstoppable. I've seen good supports precleanse themselves out of stuns and stuff, so I think you can do the same thing with abolish.
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>>125909309
>watching that pasty chubster get made fun of for hours by his stream
Pretty funny desu.
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>>125909702
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>buy memeslug
>Have a lot of fun- 10k more xp contributed than 2nd teammate
>loose because they're shitters
>mfw
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>>125909702
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>>125910563
>afk all game
>lose because your team can't carry you 4v5
>m-muh numbers
t. every specialist ever
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>>125910772
much more
>lose because teamfighting=instantly diving
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>Azmodan players not walking into combat and beaming nerds with what is quite possibly one of the best single target spells in teh game.
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>>125911651
it's usually not worth it until you bait out their stuns desu
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>>125909115
It's like they know they're terrible at this game
Spawn monstrosity, hat it, pretend to be a real hero with a simple skillset and absolutely no punishment for dying, you can turn into a 25% attack speed bonus for an ally for the duration of the cool down and the enemy gets no xp. Also you have an excuse not to go to objectives
>you're supposed to take the objective retards I'm abathur
>I'm split pushing while you do objective
>omg I'm the only constant everyone else is autistic
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>>125912674
>>125912674
>>125912674
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>>125895631
>I'm just a clone with no soul

At least they are self-aware

Also, I want to fuck that valla/Leneth
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>>125912440
I just killed another abathaur with mines and nest putting ontop of him 5 beetles then hatting. How do I make webm it's ebic
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