/boig/ - The Binding of Isaac General

first for terrible character design

third for what the fuck is with the hit box on the spear in the guardian challenge.

>>125675458
the spear is really inconsistent, i think to damage with it you have to be moving towards the enemy?
which is fucking retarded because nothing else in the game works like that

also, fun fact: tech 5 seems to have infinite penetration through objects, even though its sprite doesn't. i've noticed on multiple occasions that it's hit a rock and still damaged enemies behind it.

What other games do you guys play?

>>125677265
Terraria, already defeated Moon Man for the 3rd time

>>125677265
from the depths, dwarf fortress, cataclysm: DDA, arma 3

>>125677265
terraria, weeb games, RPGs and every good game i can get for a reasonable price on steam
I should get the dust off my consoles tho

>>125677437
Hardcore or regular?

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What does the red mean?

>>125678997
They died and didn't finish

>>125677764
Expert mode

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>>125675458
>>125675596
The thing with the spear is, despite the sprite's size, it's hitbox is only half of that. It starts at the silver part in the middle, so it's pretty much Mom's Knife, except you can't throw it.
In The Guardian, even though it's been reskinned for reasons, the hitbox is the same, and it's harder to see where that hitbox is. Again, because reasons.

>>125684534

Let's hope that they improve it, but with most things, I fail to see the rationale for it as it is. Why wait this long to nerf the Stopwatch? Why wait this long to buff Shoop Da Whoop? If his rationale for all of this was "the streamers don't use it", then who is the game ultimately for? The thing with the Internet is that no matter how deplorable something is, you'll find someone that supports it.

I just have to beat the game with The Lost and Keeper now and find the remaining items and then I'll be free until the next update.

I prefer the old lost unlock method. At least it didn't require any RNG.

>Egg's face when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saU5W91i9DI&t=17m17s

>>125687274

>that silence of resignation

It's still funny, even if he finally did beat Mega Satan with Lilith as of yesterday.

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>>125675596
Normal Tech has the same thing. I'm assuming Tech 2 has it as well, but I haven't checked yet.

>>125675596
>>125688657
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Version_History#New_Bugs
> Technology, Technology 2, and Tech.5 function as if the player has spectral tears. (Visually, the items will appear to be functioning normally, but this isn't the case.)

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Who else is doing the shroom run posted on reddit?

Rules:

>Play with a few psilocybin mushrooms next to the computer
>Every time you get a shroom or syringe item or use a pill you have to eat a mushroom
>If you die in the game you have to induce yourself a bad trip

I'm in caves 2, eaten a couple already, if I peak before I kill it lives I'm so fucked.

>>125691465
haha yes my redditor friend! i'm doing that too! let me gift you some reddit gold my fellow redditor! upvoted!

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>>125678997
tfw will never rank high on the leaderboards without outright cheating

What if Maggie started with Thunder Thighs?
Instead of just having a speed down for no reason.

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how do I do this room without getting hit? I tried like 5 times going from right door to bottom door and I can't do it

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>Gnawed Leaf, and the third item for a Mom transformation just before fighting Hush
>position myself with Mom's knife facing down and the transformation knife pointing up
It's like CHRISTMAS!

>>125695997

Let us know how it goes. Good luck! My Samson Hush involved me using Chaos Card to get it out of the way. I'll beat him with The Lost one day...

>>125697000
Oh it went swimmingly. Hush pushed me around a bit, but the transformation knife kept stabbing away because of how it works.
I'm not having as much luck with Mega Satan, though. I actually have to move around instead of just being lazy. Seems the knives don't quite reach his face when standing still.

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>>125697309
But it was still pretty easy.

>>125687274

fucking egg

>>125695997

>play my very first The Lost greed mode run ever
>couple tears ups a devil deal whatever
>save up 30 cents
>womb shop has gnawed leaf
>buy it and it rerolls into gemini
>greed fight, he's glitched into running into me forever because he can touch the wall

>die 30 times in a row on keeper runs

FUCKING STEAK

>>125695761
As soon as the spikes enter the floor go between the four statues (on the left side), wait for the shot and get out of there.

Do you need to die with Isaac, the Isaac and his Isaac, while holding the missing poster in order to unlock the Lost or can you use anyone for that?
And holy shit, upgraded Eve really is pretty fun. It's like you're rewarded for having a small red HP tank instead of praying for IV bags (which don't even give you extra damage anyway).

>>125686938
fucking hell, i've gotten mom's box on 3 runs since then and every time i've gotten missing poster sacrifice rooms haven't spawned. fuck.

>>125706092
>get missing poster on a Maggie run that had mom's knife in the first treasure room
nope
not having your shit today Ed
and captcha please what the fuck are you doing

>holding No! Never again!
>still get Krampus' Head from Krampus instead of Lump of Coal

ayyyyyyyyy absolutely EBIN GAEM EDMUND :DDDD^)

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>>125706660
that's what you get for not researching

>>125706886
They should honestly change that.

The Keeper is not fun.
He should hold the swallowed penny by default.

>>125706886
It's kind of dumb though
he has a passive and and active item in his possible drops
and No! should prevent active drops
so why not make it always drop Lump there?


it's just stupid and pretty classic edmund desu

>>125706886
Don't forget the bible drops from rosary : ^ )

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>>125691465
>Reddit
Get the fuck out of here

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>Try speed challenge
>crystal ball
>rotten baby
>mom's knife
>plenty of soul hearts to keep my topped up whenever a huge room of chasing enemies fucks my shit
>emperor card
Beat it with 3 and a half minutes to spare

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Shielded Tears + Ipec is not a good idea.

>beat Dark Room as Keeper without swallowed Penny

jesus fuck my heart was racing
I came so fucking close to dying versus The Lamb

especially since my only significant source of damage was Mr Mega Buttbombs

fuck this game for giving me 2 guppy items on basement 2 and then never again. Didn't even get flying through other means

Anyway, that's out of the way. Only Bosh Rush and Hush left. Will have to start going fast even though that's hard as balls as Keeper since the only way I've had a chance so far is extremely meticulous play. Oh well.

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>>125711690
Good job, anonymous!

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>>125712386
thanks anon

fuck keeper though

he's almost as hard as rebirth lost
yes, technically you have more chances than it instead of 1 fuckup = you're dead

but it's so much fucking easier to dodge stuff when you can fly

I find that to be the main difference

not the fact that you could load up on devil deals with Lost whereas you can only sometimes take them on Keeper

but not having flight (and lower speed though if I'm not mistaken)

makes him a real pain in the ass to play

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>>125713036
Alright anon, that's enough blogging for today.
Go brush your teeth and get in bed.

>>125713823
nice one
guy is actually talking about the gameplay mechanics instead of steakposting, and you call that blogging?

>>125714497
There are two results for steak in this thread and one of them is yours.

>>125713823
>>125714497
/v/ - where talk of videogames is taboo, only dank memes are acceptable here.

>>125714968
>I don't think we're in /v/ anymore, Toto

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>>125714968
>/v/

>>125715136
>>125715163
I guess I got lost

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>>125715393
That one's a keeper.

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>>125713823

rise from your grave

>Tractor Beam + Mum's Knife + Monstro's Lung
>the Lung knives are affected by Tractor Beam
but why

>>125721659
Because Tractor Beam.

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What's the best way to get mega blast? its literally the only thing stopping me from 100%ing afterbirth

i usually play greed mode with isaac or azazel (just to clear the rooms faster) and after i got a devil room on sheol with three items (none of which were mega blast), i used d6 once, still no mega blast, i had the battery which gave me an extra charge of it and once again no mega blast

i had seen maybe 12 devil room items in that one run and didnt get it

im fucking pissed

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>offscreen killed by Bloat Laser

nice, that's just what I needed after whiffing 3 fucking wooden nickel charges in a row. Thanks Edmund.

>>125715509
Enough with the puns. [Spoiler]Hush

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>>125724947

>>125695997

I had that setup, except no knives and Sissy single-handedly killed Hush.

>>125726708
that's because she loves you anon :3

>>125727228

Sissy did the same thing in Rebirth Lost runs, so the feeling is mutual.

>Ed sees that everyone is getting to Mega Satan now, various comments about how it's easy now to get the keys
>an update puts a timer on the large door, you can't open it if 35 minutes have passed
>you also have to kill hush

Top 2 Familiars?

Bottom 2 Familiars?

>we will never get a boss as cool as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmQHYbIEi-s

>>125728995
Dark Bum / Incubus
Harlequin Baby / Brother Bobby

>>125729085
Even more annoying than the Stain.

>>125728995
Incubus / Dark Bum
if only counting damage familiars, Incubus / Lil Brim probably?

bottom 2
Abel and one of bobby/maggy

iirc they're equal since rebirth
in vanilla one was better, I think it was maggy

>>125728995
Dark Bum and Dry Baby.
Harlequin Baby and Abel.

>>125729642
Oh and Rotten baby probably as fourth choice for best

>>125729485
>>125729697
Harlequin tears do more damage than Bobby/Maggy tears

and he shoots two of them

it's objectively incorrect to rank him below them unless you think you are really missing over 50% of his tears opposed to the other familiars

>>125730037
Nah fuckboy, harlequin baby is an ugly little faggot with ugly faggot tears that fire in an ugly faggot pattern.

>>125728995
Dark Bum
Incubus

Abel
Demon Baby

>>125730037
Except he never fucking hits anything. Brother Bobby and Sister Maggy do way more damage than him in the long run since they don't have a retarded pattern and can actually hit things

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>>125727675
>steak should be eaten slowly and savored
>so let's make two game events time-restricted!!!
fucking ed and his schizophrenic game design

>>125729564
Its a lot more interesting than "le spinny bullethell" and "4 inch side attack"

>>125728995
Incubus and succubus. Not enough red hp drops on hard mode for dark bum to be all that helpful honestly. Meanwhile succubus has a large damage aura that scales with your damage AND gives you a 1.5x damage multiplier if you're near it.
Abel and little chad, do people even count chad as a familiar? Dead bird if you don't.

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You know? I have a very good feeling about this run

>>125734794
Fuck happened to all your health?
On normal, no less?

>>125729085
>20/20 eve
jesus christ that's adorable

>>125729564
seems pretty interesting to me, and from the looks of it it's got a pretty solid pattern
it's also got some visually appealing attacks that aren't just spinny bullethells
definitely a hundred times better than mister the 'sits underground for five minutes and pops up to shoot some bullets occasionally' stain

So how did Ed justify time-gating shit with Afterbirth?

>>125735554
>Fuck happened to all your health?
Some faggot went full ''WITNESS ME'' and exploted right in front of me. Got a soul heart the next room, and a fly (A FUCKING FLY) teleported behind me
>On normal, no less?
Aye, just started this game 1 week ago

>>125702743
what if you're on the right side?

2012 NL sounds like dudebro lol

>>125729085
>Spawns boneys
Fuck no

>Champion version would likely spawn the nigger boneys that rapid fire

>>125737117
Doesn't sound as bad as a friend of mine, though. I went to hang out with him and he showed me that he got Isaac, I assumed since he unlocked basically nothing so far he hadn't played it much.
Nope. Over 100 deaths and he'd only unlocked maggy. Without even playing hard. Watching him play was a trip, though.

>>125729085
>getting more than one of those at once
I'd take quadruple Stain over double Pile any day. That teleportation attack on its own is going to be fucking awful.

At least it's in the right floor.

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Do I get my steak now

>>125743919
>hasn't even hit 500 yet
No steak for you.

>>125743994
Requesting Ed/Tyrone's face shopped onto the Soup Nazi

>>125743994
All my time went to an "okay" f2p with an egregious f2p model.

1103 hours of time, to be exact.
I've probably spent a grand on it, so that works out to about a dollar an hour.

>>125746783
>spent a grand on it
You had better not be referring to a certain sleek videogame.

>>125746956
I don't get the reference, so probably not.

It's sci-fi with pew pew lasers

>eggmund and tyrone can't make afterbirth work on the vita

Shocking. System can handle shit like killzone, but god forbid silly weapon combos.

>>125747687
They can't get it to run on the Wii U. I know it's not the most powerful system in the world ,but it can run Bayo 2 and XBCX, an upjumped newgrounds game shouldn't be a problem.

>>125747796
No, they said that the 3DS, Wii U, and Vita are all running at suboptimal performance.

Boggles my fucking mind how any of those systems are having problems, really.

>>125747832
I think mostly because BoI is designed to run on a computer, and they're too fucking lazy to figure out how to port it right.

My best guess is the non-PC versions are essentially running BoI emulators.

>>125748218
It really pisses me off because I know the game shouldn't have issues running on the vita, honestly.

It's just lazy programming on nicalis' part.

>>125747832
I have Rebirth on my 3ds and it's god awful.

>crashes every few minutes and have to restart the floor
>visuals lower quality
>framerate drops so easily

What a squandered opportunity for them.

>>125748382
>collectibles drop at 30FPS on Vita
>FUCKING COLLECTIBLES

>>125748421
Didn't collectibles look like shit in Rebirth too?

>>125748519
Nah, they seemed ok in the PC version at least.

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>tfw I unlocked 4 characters in the same run
>Samsom, Lazarus, Eve, and Azazel (whatever the fuck are their names)
>mfw I was fucking invincible until I died in Depth's 2

>>125748421
>collectibles

Nigger what are you talking about.

>>125748943
item drops, you fucking goblin.

>>125729085

>We will never get any of this too

http://imgur.com/a/7LuHb
http://i.imgur.com/vmhA1Wp.png
http://imgur.com/a/KT49A
http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/39739506749754218/7637819361AF8033FDACF7EEA234086EDF132F3F/

>>125748979
That's a consumable. Collectibles are stupid shit like snowglobes.

>>125748979
Then call them items, you fucking indian fuck.

>>125749035
sure we will

>mods

>>125749035
Basilica looks pretty.

>>125749210
Those're all by NotYourSagittarius though, and they wound up getting hired by Nicalis from all of that, if I remember right.
I guess someone could take that stuff and make a mod of it anyways.

>>125749035
>Brimstone Hosts

I hate it

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Oh shit. Uh. What do I choose? I'm thinking Goat Head and Death's Touch. But that'd leave me with half a soul heart to my name. Help.

>>125750764
Do it, man mode the fuck out of that run.
Going by your stats you're still super early in the run so you should be fine if you're not bad.

>>125750764
Goat Head and Death's Touch is what I would go with, too. Make sure to pop the pill right afterwards, though.

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>>125750965
Fuck it lezgo

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>>125750965
>>125751015
this room gets me every fucking time

>>125751015
Incoming death by that one room in the flooded caves with the single line path and 5 blue bomb flies.

>>125751167
>>125751180
Never mind. Best way to do that room is stay by the door and try to kill one before they shoot a second time.

>defeat satan on hard mode
>nothing unlocked
fucking thanks edmond
very rewardinjg game desu

>>125751489
The only hard mode unlocks are from beating everything with that character on hard mode. If you already did it on normal, it won't unlock anything.

Who should I stan next?
Anyone but Judas, Eden and Lost.

>>125751859
Keeper

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>>125751986
O-ok...

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Uh, sure. Thanks game.

>>125753178
>already at boss rush
take blue baby head

>>125753272
de fak I'm not the keeper guy and also this was a challenge room

>>125753272
Go back to bed.

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>>125753480
I'm the keeper guy.
I died on Womb 1 with no angel deals or sacrifice rooms in sight.

>>125749061
I'd wager someone whose been in XBX lately. A similar class of items are called collectibles there.

>>125754090
>xbx

Xenoblade?

Any tips for the Speed! challenge?

Just got Afterbirth and started a new game for it.
Got Bumbo for the first time currently, but i feel like i don't have enough time to use his to his full potential.

>>125755486
Just keep mashing your face into it until you don't get screwed on items.

>>125755486
Two ways to win. Either you need to be able to bum rush through the game, meaning you want a Floor 1 Dr. Fetus, Ipecac, or Pyro (just skip majority of rooms by blasting the doors), or a Floor 1 We Need to Dig Deeper!

The other way is extremely careful defensive play. Floor 1 Holy Mantle can allow you to completely bypass the 16 minute time limit. After your time is up, you recieve damage every 10 seconds, but that damage can be absorbed by the Mantle. So long as you can clear a room and wait for the mantle to take the hit before moving on to the next room, you can keep going forever past the time limit.

Or just having a really OP build to where you can tell the game to fuck off. Tammybrim or something.

>>125755793
Is restarting until i get one of those items a good idea? or should i just take what i got and try?

Thanks bro.

>>125756372
In theory you could just take what you get and hope for the best. But if your frustrated enough, R'ing until you get a powerhouse item could possibly help your sanity.

>>125756649
Though should mention in hindsight, the Mantle method is probably the easiest in that not only does it subvert the time limit, it lets you take your free hit per room which given how fast things are moving, will be often, which might keep your Devil Deals intact, along with free access to Curse Rooms.

>>125756649
I'm trying to complete all the challenges i have before continuing on and completing challenges as i unlock them.

I can't wait for a normal fucking run.

>>125756756
>mfw i'll be doing Guardian and Speed! until I die.

>>125756896
Are the rewards for those 2 challenges ever worth fighting for?
Family Man was an awful slog but the unlock kept me going for it

>>125756948
Blank Runes are meh, Get Out Of Jail Free Card has gotten me some otherwise impossible stan runs.

>>125756948
Not even a little bit. But then again, nothing in this game is worth fighting for.

I pretty much have nothing else to play other than FTL atm with my computer situation the way it is currently.

>>125749035
Only now I realized that there's an alternate floor for every base floor except for Sheol and the cathedral. God damn it Edmund
I wish they went all the way through and added alternate cellar, catacombs and necropolis too in addition to topheth and basilica, but hey I guess that not getting what we want is part of the enjoyment of this steak.

>>125756948
Alot of the challenges have bogus, or outright harmful, rewards.

I'm personally saving as many meh challenges til after I finish all my post it notes. There's alot of advantage to a small rune pool with only a few select runes in it, as well as not unlocking useless pills or certain cards.

I'd say the challenges worth doing are 2, 6, 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 21, 23, 29, and 30.

Outright avoiding 1 (Hagalaz seems the most common Rune, so keeping it out the pool helps), 7 (card pool, very rarely useful), 11, 24, and 25. All others are either not directly useful, but not exactly harmful either.

Alright, I have super bandage girl/ super meat boy, all challenges, all characters unlocks on hard mode and I have 3 achievements left, other then finding every item in the game, wtf am I missing?

>>125757597
Possible that your missing some of the do X thing achievements? How many times have you died? Got all the _ Boy achievements? (I assume that's automatic for doing the Lost though). Fully upgraded your shop donation machine? Got all alt-bosses unlocked etc? (I'm nearly done with the game and only just now unlocked Triachnid for example).

It'd be easier if you just went into Steam, Library, View Achievements, bottom of the page is the ones still locked.

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>mfw just got soy milk + polyphemus for the first time

Never seen ultra greed's health drop so fast

Finally killed hush with the fucking keeper. I only miss 4 challenges and ??? with keeper to get 1001%
How do I do Guardian?

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>never fought Hush before
>win all three fights I had with it today
>all on Hard
There is no greater feeling. Feels so good to get that shit out of the way on three different characters.

I can only imagine the hell it will be to fight it with the Lost though.

>>125763045
quickly kill everything before the fucknugget can fuck up
block shots and stuff with your body
quickly gtfo of rooms with spikes/red poop
Pray you don't get too much bullshit like a lot of mom hands, red mom, chasers, teleporters, et cetera


Oh and have more than 1 hp before facing It Lives because you get guaranteed damage upon entering (eye spawns on your heart)

>>125763195
gratz for all, hope you make it the first try with Keeper, I got to beat hush woth him yesterday after a bunch of tries. Probably made it because he didn't spam the tears pillars of unavoidable damage

>>125763195

>I can only imagine the hell it will be to fight it with the Lost though.

Just reroll for gnawed leaf + passive damage.

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>>125763286
I'll have to unlock Keeper first. I was well on my to unlocking him before the machine broke when I had 70 coins. 0% chance my ass. What's the actual statistic on that thing? Does your chance to break the Greed Machine go up the more coins you put in in one run? I've been going through with different characters each time so that I always have that 0% chance but it still somehow broke.

>>125763694
for that unlock i suggest the d20 abuse where you get infinite items and 9 volt + glowing hourglass and kill ultra greed until you have 999 coins in the machine

Does taking a deal in a devil room give a better chance for one on the next floor?

>>125763694
>>125763849
You just got really unlucky (0% is rounded off, so it was like 0.4% probably)

Ever since the changes I consistently deposited about 50 to 80 coins each run. Just keep switching characters and you'll be fine.

>>125764064
No. Taking a devil deal locks you out of angel rooms appearing, and having had a devil room on a previous floor lowers your chance for one to open up on the current floor (even lower when you had one on two of the previous floors). That's all it does.

>>125764140
obviously I mean the immediately previous / 2 previous, so if you get one on both basement 2 and caves 1, fat chance you're getting one on caves 2

and just the room has to have appeared for that, not necessarily taking a deal.

>>125764064
Getting a devil room/angel room automatically sets the probability on the floor after that at 1/3 and increases by 1/3 every time you don't get either. Getting a devil deal precludes angel room from spawning. Joker cards devil rooms do not count, you have to spawn them after the bossfight. After an xl floor you have 2/3 probability of getting another angel/devil room. That's it I guess, except sacrefice rooms and killing beggars

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>>125764064
I wanna take it to lower my health and potentially increasing chance at one on the next floor but don't really want the hairball. Would rather save hearts for better deal.

>>125764140
Wait that's something i never got.
So
>if on floor 1 i get a devil room, i have a lower chance of getting one on floor 2, but if i get one on floors 1 and 2, the chance is lower for three?
or
>Floor 1 devil room, no devil room on floor 2, floor 3 is decreased chance?

>>125764304
Take the Hairball. It's a decent enough item, plus it's 1/3rd of the way towards Guppy.

Especially since you have six fucking health as Eve.

You don't want to start getting Angel Rooms accidentally.

>>125764304
Basement 1 has 0% devil deal, basement xl has 100% as it is for basement 2

>>125764304

Floor 1 has 0% devil/angel room.
Floor 2 has 100% devil room.
Floor 1/2 XL obeys the same rules.
Getting a devil or angel room reduces your chances for the next floor, but that penalty decreases the lower you go. The baseline is thirty-something percent chance to get a room which doubles each floor you don't get one.

If you use missing hud you can watch the percentages yourself.

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>Orange Mega-Fatty, Red Mega-Maw challenge rooms

>>125764478
>>125765256
I was using 'floor 1' as an example, not being literal, but thanks.

I can't use missing hud because i'm currently away for 6 months and all i have here is a macbook.

>>125764375
I'm already fun guy though. You can't do more than one transformation, can you? Never had this predicament till Afterbirth because there are so many now.

>>125766726
You can have ALL the transformations.

>play maggy
>find bloody lust on flood one
>find pyro on floor two
>then i find pyromaniac
Got Isaac and ??? on hard on the first try, never had so much fun with her

Also
>continuum doesn't synergize with brimstone
Fuck, could have been fun

>>125766790
NUH UH

new meta

If they made narrations for cards and pills, why not just narrate all the items?

inb4 edmund and reasons

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aw shit. wat do.

>>125769029
Leave the room and get 6 coins from next angel room, obviously.

>>125769029
Both.

>>125769029
first goat, then brimstone
you will be stuck at 1 soul heart, enough

>>125769029
>6 coins

dafuq

>>125769280
Are you trying to kill me..

>>125769425
it works, don't you know
if you only have 1 heart and take double heart items, it only takes out your heart
it left you with a heart deficit in vanilla, but not anymore

>rush through first two floors
>take unnecessary damage against second floor boss
>lose devil room
This has happened in the last 5 dailies what's wrong with me

Has anyone else found the eastern egg after hush fight? It works with dad's key. Get away from jail card is so rare that I have no idea if it works with that.

keeper achievements are making me want to kill myself

Of course I get this combo when i have literally no desire for it's effect.

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>>125772832
Of course I forget my picture being i'm FUCKING RETARDED.

>>125772969
It gets better.

>car battery
>puta madre card
>battery
>? card

All these heart containers that I don't want.
>This will never happen to me again

Such is life in the basement

Don't you die on me, you bastard.

>>125772969

Holy shit, car batter and prayer card is a free heart container every time. Toss some batteries in there and.

Got dayum

>>125778305
Yeah, that's pretty much what happened. But i was playing as eve and i didn't want heart containers.

>amazing Eden run, started with good damage, Book of Revelations and three spirit hearts, and found a fuckton of tinted rocks
>get a health up pill at some point
>first devil deal has the pact, death's touch and something else I liked too for one heart
>decide to pick everything up, start with death's touch because I didn't realize the pact would have been better
>the prices didn't update to soul hearts after I lost all my normal HP so I couldn't get anything else
Well fug
At least it was still a fun run

>>125723862

It's 5x rarer than any other Devil Item.

>>125776738

This general WILL die until modding comes out.

Why is Big Fan's damage so shit?

>>125782442
Because it's the biggest orbital and it doesn't count as an usual one, meaning you can break the limit.

Did Afterbirth break modding of the Angel/Devil Room jingle sounds?

Is there a single goddamn good "x happens when you take damage" item in the game

>>125785579

Betrayal I guess, a bunch of the spill items.

Or do you mean like a door opens or someshit?

>>125785579
Stop Watch
Athame

>>125783875
Sac Dagger is the biggest orbital and its damage is great.

>>125786602
No, Big Fan is wider.

>>125786707
It isn't. You need about 8 Big Fans to fully surround you, you only need 5 daggers.

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Well...

Anyhow if you want mega blast Eden farming is waaaaaay more quicker than breaking the game on greed mode or devil room farming.

Too bad I got killed by the hush.

I literally have no idea why this item is so rare it is not better than Brimstone in any way, and I wish I could had gotten to mega satan but the second angel room never appeared anyhow.

What a lackluster way to beat the game.

So what now?

>blank card
>starter deck
>perthro and jera
>go to chest
>dis gonna be good
>only 21 keys

still ended up broken as all fuck but wish I had a lock pick or something.

>>125788139
>not better than brimstone
>can clear half the map and the boss with one charge

It may not be available all the time but it's definitely better than brimstone. The thing completely melts almost all bosses in the game

>>125786602
Big Fan is unlocked by default. You have to put considerable time into the game to unlock sacdag.

>>125788926
it does decent damage against the hush, but even with the car battery well the power doe snot show except against bosses that never stood a chance against brimstone anyhow.

>>125788804
That's why you should save some time to get 99 keys either before or during the chest.

>>125790160
Yeah I should have used jera to duplicate keys but I killed ??? in like 3 seconds regardless so it didn't much matter. Still a fun run.

>>125785579
I had Pyromaniac + Curse of the Tower the other day and it was pretty fun, but you need those two items exactly for it to not be shitty.

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>clearing some purple flames with ipecac + monstro's lung
>statue blows up
>part of a key shows up
>leave and finish floor
>go back to boss room
>door is still there
>try blowing it up again
>angel appears
>drops other half of key
neat

>>125791291
Curse of the Tower is fine. You don't want it on Basement 2 since it effectively locks you out of blood banks and demon beggars but on the later floors it's free damage since Polaroid invincibility lasts longer than it takes for all the bombs to spawn and detonate.

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>>125788139
>Same guy
>feel bummed out that the last thing I did on Isaac was grind for Mega Blast, and that run ended being pretty shitty
>Try again with D6 Isaac one last time
>Epic Fetus on floor 1
>The Fallen on Floor 2
>Reroll for Brimstone
>Beath Hush, The Lamb and Mega Satan

Okay now this is Isaac right here.
That will do Ed, that will Do.

By the way that was a good Steak....but I am never eating here again.

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>Secret room discovery chime is still 'music' and not 'sfx'

Why, Edmund.

>>125795664
Oh yeah it is a pain, the OST is okay but after a 100 hours you start to get bored of it.

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>tfw no range

so if I kill blue baby in the chest I'm okay to go fight the chest afterwards, right?

>just bought afterbirth
>come back after like 3 months of not playing rebirth since it came out
>everything is so different
>new items
>"lets do the new challenges!"
>the new challenges are actually hard RNG filled nigthmares
>the new bosses are unfair bullet hell's
>tfw at least greed mode is fun

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>trying to do mega satan with eve
god this is fucking annoying, worst character for sure

>>125797550
>having troubles with Eve
I'm sorry, but literally get fucking good.

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>monstros lung
>ipecac
>wafer
>ton of damage up items
>sticky bomb shot
>host hat
>infamy
>trinity shield
First time fighting large lucifer. killed blue baby in 2 shots. feeling good

>>125798291
>only lost half a soul heart
>unlocked dead boy
STEAK

ENJOYED

>>125764304
>not wanting the hair ball
Literally a passive Guppy item.

man this daily was bad, how was I supposed to not take red heart damage on the 2nd floor when there were literally no spirit hearts on the first and one of the adjacent rooms to the starting point is a tiny room with 8 spiders in it.

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>Making it to Cathedral with no damage ups or tear modifiers given
Why do damage ups feel so scarce now?

>>125800257
Because steakmund keeps fucking up item pools with shitty items.

I feel like I'm the only one that thinks that BoI is getting better everytime it's updated. Like why do you guys still play.

>>125800987
autism

>Blue Baby greed mode

Why is this harder than Lost greed mode

I scummed and restarted until I got d20 in my floor one shop

>>125801395
I somehow did it after dying with the ankh

>>125801395
It's not that bad, you just need a strong starting item that can carry you until the shop has blue hearts and then buy as many as you can. That or find something like PJs.

>>125796989
yes just don't touch the game-ending chest after blue baby and you can go wander the rest of the level. Even kill megasatan if you like.

>>125691465
dude lsd lmao

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>>125797471
You think the challenges and bosses are bullshit? wait until you unlock the keeper.

Enjoy your steak fag.

>>125804223
The keeper is pretty shit, but once you get all his unlocks he's not nearly as bad. He gets a ton of money from the wooden nickle and the shop key is nice. Plus if you find swallowed penny you just win. His only huge downside is his fucking awful tears down from triple shot and that he can't take devil deals.

>finally unlock Lost with Holy Mantle
>begin a run
>fight Fistula in a narrow room
>get hit once, losing Mantle
>win boss fight
>no devil deal

What type of bullshit is this?!

>>125804223
>Black Poop room
WHY DOES IT EXIST

>>125804949
Why would you expect a deal? Was it on floor 2? That's the only room with guaranteed devil deal for no damage.

>>125804223
Most of the challenges wouldn't be bad if they didn't want you to go to the womb. You know the place with 1 heart dealing enemies and burrowing enemies? Effectively making blue bomber hell, making onans streak god damn awful, and making the guardian the worst challenge ever made on this fucking planet.

>>125805297

Yes, it was Floor 2.

>>125804949
>devil deals aren't available on first floor
>don't get a devil deal on first boss
>What type of bullshit is this?!

The kind where you're dumb.

>>125805482
see
>>125805413

>>125805297
Holy Mantle is able to trigger Stopwatch so maybe it now counts as (red?) damage? Holy fuck the madman knows no bounds.

>>125806227
It could be. I haven't heard anyone complain about it yet. Although I'm pretty sure that's not the case since it doesn't count for sacrifice room "damage" or demon beggars

>>125805482
>>125806227
>>125806409

I had picked up Fate, so maybe that had something to do with it. I died at Necropolis, so it's time to try again. This time, I got a Devil Deal, but it was shit, so Angel Rooms for me!

>>125805331
I won Guardian by finding Cambian Conception and having Dark Bum pop out.

It's absurdly difficult, and any enemies that rush you down are going to hit the little idiot.

I lost 5 hearts in one room because he wouldn't move off of spikes and I had no bombs to just GTFO

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>This motherfucker is the final boss of the game
Can you beat him?

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>>125808082
Yes.

You always wanted a run with Jera, Perthro and Blank Card?

0BQE N7RN

>>125808709
Yeah.
>seed
no

>>125808709
Oh, and there's a Car Battery in the very first shop, so you can get infinite everything on every floor after you get Blank Card.

WHERE
THE
FUCK
IS
MY
MISSING
POSTER

FUCK

>yfw you nearly ditched a pretty powerful Lost Run because you forgot you picked up an early 9 Lives

Just need to make it to and beat Hush. Chaos Card doesn't seem to drop as often as it used to...

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Had my first ever full on bomb run. Easily the most fun I've had with Rebirth.
I killed ??? in less than a second.
Pyromaniac + Mr. Mega + Bob's Curse + Butt Bombs + Hot Bombs + Scatter Bombs + Sad Bombs + Death's Touch + Anarchist Cookbook

>>125804563
>but once you get all his unlocks he's not nearly as bad.

Its only unlock is the wooden penny.
Store key is worthless, people usually trade it for the swallowed penny, but technically it should not be bad, the problem is that you take double damage before you can do anything about it in many instances to the point that makes me think the game is bugged.

>>125805253
Just like the old man texture or the skinless hush sprite sheets, presumably as le epic red herrings

>Do challenge 9, Demo Man again just to see how much easier it is in Afterbirth with the better Dr Fetus

>It's actually both easy and fun
Ed, Im having fun, please nerf

>>125811730
gotta try that.

So I already have RPG on Vita/PS4 + 1001% on PC version, because I fucking love this game.

However, I've been playing really bad, especially on the daily challenges. I need more friends to start competing and talk about the meta. Most of what I do now is play Witcher 3 and ask myself when everything went to shit with my play. :(

>>125758618
when Im on the launch screen in steam, it says I have 3 achievements left.

When I look a the achievemnts page, the only one listed as locked is 1001%

does finding the super greed baby count as a hidden achievement?

>>125816538
You can see all the achievements by clicking the link that lets you compare your achievements to everyone else.
Anyway, i'd imagine so, since Keeper's supposed to be super secret.

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9 hours in and still can't beat this motherfucker

>>125677265
digital devil saga right now, kind of a break from my usual platformers/rougelikes/roguelike platformers

>curse of the blind
>get soymilk

I tried...I tried so hard, even made it to the dark room, but I just couldn't do it.

>>125808259
...
Well played.

>>125809162
in those blue heart machines

>>125827091
>like the idea of soy milk as an item
>have always wanted to get it in a run
>still nothing (other than the possibility of getting it in either a run with amazing damage or boss rush, but not even I am insane enough for that)
I just want to pew pew for ten years to kill a little poop, why won't this steak listen to me

>>125825464
>digital devil saga

My nigga.

Demifiend can eat a dick though.

>>125677265
I've been doing Rogue Legacy.

Only managed to kill the eye so far because I'm bad at platformers.
Most of my damage comes from the environment instead of enemies

>>125836734
I quit Rogue Legacy after getting to those stupid secret bosses.

>>125677265
I've started FTL again recently. Only done two games so far, one win with Kestrel and one loss with Torus. Doing pretty good with it.

>>125836734
Remember to upgrade your crit chance, it's really useful, but most people ignore it.

>>125837279
That's post-game content though, right? IIRC you need to have beaten the game at least once before to fight them.

>tfw favorite item in the game is tractor beam
>tfw haven't gotten in in over 100 runs

>dr fetus
>no orbiters
>weak familiars
>conjoined
>red mom
>one heart
>literally impossible to kill mom

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>Playing as The Lost
>Only need Mega Satan
>Not taking devil deals
>Finally having the key
>55 minutes of playthought
>Chest
>Fucking dad's key is in the fucking chest
>Mega Satan summoned another fucking minion and I didn't know
>Second fase killed me

Well guys, i'm fucking fuck done with The fucking Lost.

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this fucker is literally the hardest boss in the entire game.

harder than hush

harder than big beelzebub

harder than isaac

harder than ???

because he is literally

L I T E R A L L Y

impossible to hit

>>125842346
You have mom's contacts, literally how

>Lazarus Run to get all his items because I never play him
>Doing pretty good, 3 Dollar Bill is keeping me alive after I got Guppy's Tail, Athame, and Dead Cat in the Devil Deal
>Stumble onto Guppy's Head in the Treasure Room I skipped
>Tech X in the next floor
>Bloody Penny in the Arcade
>Pop Athame during the Envy fight, suddenly 10+ Black Hearts
>In the Chest, get Dad's Key in the last room before ???
Well, that was the juiciest steak I've had in a long time.

>>125842346
You can hit Mask of Infamy from the side and it'll deal damage, but it's kinda tricky.

>>125843108
doesn't freeze him unless it actually hits him

L I T E R A L L Y

>>125842346
He's easy if you have some kind of piercing shot.

But then, piercing shots make just about everything in this game easy.

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>>125801395
This was my Blue Baby run. I honestly do not think I'll ever do any better than this. Ultra Greed got ultra fucked liked the bastard he is.

page 10

I just unlocked The Razor Blade for Eve from Greed Mode. I tried starting a new run with her but the Razor wasn't in her inventory. What's up with that?

>>125851001
Have you actually unlocked the razor yet

>>125851250
Nope. Turns out I had Isaac beat, not Satan. I'm retarded, my b.

>>125843161
>Pop Athame during the Envy fight, suddenly 10+ Black Hearts
Isnt' that just the best feeling?
I had a similar experience fighting Envy after picking up serpents kiss
black hearts everywhereeee

dad

http://s1.webmshare.com/6Bwyz.webm

Pretty good.

>>125859159
Yes?

Can I mod the Keeper somehow? This shit is unplayable.

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>start hardmode on Issac
>get Dr. Fetus
>get Glitterbombs

Am I allowed to have this much fun?

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>Godhead in today's daily

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>>125871246
>chewing that fast

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>>125872456
>not slowing down

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>tfw lost 74 Eden streak because D4 rerolled my breaking run into nothing
What happened to "no breakfasting, guise :D"?

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>Mfw Car Battery+Battery+9-Volt+Triple Incubus

Lilith is a goddamn 2hu.

Fucking four achievements away from the Plat God + RPG + 1001% and they are all four afterbirth challenges. I think I'm not gonna get those anytime soon. Too much luck based. Steak is not coocked well. Wanna escape.

>>125876675
Are they Speed, Brains, Onan's Streak, and The Guardian?

>>125877238
Guardian, Brains, Bomber and P2P

>>125876675
Just mod the game dude fuck Shitmund and his rotten meat

>>125877361
Really, P2P? That's an even easier version of Cursed. I ended up finishing it with 98 coins.

>>125877595
Last time i tried I got Deadcat B2, Collar C1 and can you guess where was the third cat piece? In the cathedral! And it was of course another dead cat which obviously did not turn me into Guppy. I ended up dieing countless times to isaac.

Does the Alt+F4 trick still work on The Lost? I'm about to fight Ultra Greed and I'd like to be done with it if I can.

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>>125874513
>using the d4
you deserve it

>>125879913
Isaac's pretty easy without taking damage, even on awful, low-damage runs. Sure, his Stage Two is all RNG and can easily fuck you over, but the odds of that happening 18+ times in a row are very low. That loss is entirely on you being bad.

>>125879957
Oh, never mind. I saw the patch notes. I forgot they were listed in the OP.

>>125880494
If you have Holy Mantle, you can still scum it.

>>125880385
to be honest, isaac is pretty shitty when he spawns a bunch of angel babies around himself (which is pretty much guaranteed on low damage)
and since you have no damage you can't deal with them at all

>>125880807
How does it work exactly? I don't know what's different.

>>125881038
I can't imagine somebody getting that far into the game still not knowing how to dodge angel babies. I mean, 18 fucking times. That's way too much.

>>125881181
If you lose your mantle, exit the run normally and continue back in. You'll have to start the room over again, but your mantle will be back. It's like entering the room again for the first time.

Though really, I don't see the point in needing to do that to fight Ultra Greed. Greed Mode is so easy to break you should be able to 1-shot him easily.

>>125881505
18 times with only one heart available
all it takes is one misstep and you're starting the fight from square one. pretty easy when 2+ angel babies are shitting bullets at you in addition to isaac's bullethell-lite
also those random pillars of light can be pretty fucky, not to mention the occasional time during stage 3 where the pillars of light attack will reach the corners of the room

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>>125881732
Isaac is one of the easiest bosses in the entire game. The first stage is completely pattern-based, there's absolutely no excuse for taking damage here.

The second stage is slightly harder, but the patterns Isaac shoots out leave more than enough room to dodge the angelic baby triple shots, which you should be more than familiar with. I can understand slipping up here and taking a stray bullet or dodging into/getting sniped by a beam of light a few times, but having that happen 18 times is just too much.

The last stage is somehow even easier than the first one. The beams of light will literally never hit you as long as you dodge to a corner that isn't opposite of the one the beams started in. For example, if they start in the top left, they will never, ever hit the bottom left or top right corners. Isaac's shot pattern here is also extremely easy. Like the first stage, there's no excuse for taking damage here.

Face it, anon. You need to git gud.

>>125881647
That makes sense. I managed to beat him without getting hit anyway. Thank you.

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>>125883216
i'm not even that anon - i've beaten isaac on the fucking lost before holy mantle, for one, but it doesn't stop me from understanding the times when you get caught out by dumb shit - ESPECIALLY when you have next to no damage potential
the angelic babies are dodgeable, yes, but again - when you have no damage and one heart it just turns into a matter of when you're going to slip up. the longer you have to try to dodge that shit, the higher the chance that you're going to fail.
also the beams of light filling the room do sometimes like to fill corners they're not supposed to because >steak

>muh git gud

you should probably try a low-damage run sometime, load up players.xml and remove holy mantle from the lost, maybe add the dead cat if you're feeling scared, and never pick up any items that give you damage up (hardmode: never pick up any items that affect tears) and report back when you find that things are unsurprisingly harder when you don't have all your crutches

stream it for bonus points, i'd love to watch that kind of run.

>>125880385
I actually made it to stage 3 a couple of times, but he got me in the corner with the holy lasers

>tfw need 90 more coins in Greed Machine for 1000
Having the machine break on me when the percent says 0 and I have 2 of diamonds plus two charges of blank card, and having it happen on two runs no less, is really burning me out. This shit is hell. If it breaks on me again I'm leaving that shit for a few days. Also it seems that Lilith was made really well for Greed Mode since you can just keep hitting up the box o' buddies to become a bullethell boss.

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>put one coin into the donation machine
>instantly jams

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>>125885637
>NL fucks around with the D20 for like 50 minutes to get 99 coins and a 2 of Diamonds so he could donate around 150
>machie jams on the first coin

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tfw broken watch slow effect trigger on hush and mega stan

>Get razor blade from greed machine
>Play as eve
>She doesn't have razor blade

Is this a bug?

>>125890478
no
you have to eat your steak more slowly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftUIlHR2Bbg&feature=player_detailpage#t=1871
Seeing him break down never stops being amazing.

Is this game still bad or did it get improved since last month?

Are there mods that fix the game?

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>manage to beat Hush as the lost
>die on Mega Satan

I'M FED UP WITH THIS WORLD!

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hoy

>>125883850
low damage =/= no damage
you should probably learn that soon desu

>>125880208
d4 is amazing if you already have easy access to charging it.

>>125897985
you're just a little chicken, cheep cheep cheep

>>125905530
yeah desu senpai baka

>>125908364
DONT TOUCH ME YOU MMMOTHER FFFUCKER

>>125897985
Is Godhead worth filling out Losts post it?
I did top row and Im working on middle right now.

Is the blue babby greed unlock even worth it

It's something about only running blue and black hearts that really throws me off

>>125913112
Yes. It's a better Sacred Heart that seems to show up all the fucking time for me.

>>125913112
Godhead is godly, if you'll mind the pun.
Free homing, along with a halo around your tears that does stupid amounts of damage? Yes please.

>>125913341
It opens up more possibilities with breaking runs.

>>125913456
I haven't even found sacred heart. It must be one of those rare special items.
>>125913487
That sounds OP as fuck. I'll opt for it.