/twg/ - Total War General

Medieval is shit

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>>125448107

I feel very slow since I missed the huge re balance patch for Attila. Anyone have anything they'd like for campaign posting?

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Whats going on here?

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>>125448107
phew

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>>125448205
>300x169

attila is garbage
FOTE is garbage

>>125448252
>He might well be from Carthage.

>>125448205
>that ching-chong architecture on the left building
>you will never make love to Joey in the Imperiar Parace

MUH UNIT COLLISION

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>>125448107

first for cute anime girls!

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Roll your faction
>with a twist :^)

I want all mudslimes to go and stay go.

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>>125448351
Rollo

>>125448543
oh fuck me

>>125448531
allah is pretty great huh

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>>125448630
>>125448543
>allah is pretty great huh
That's the spirit!

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>>125448351
Also the chart for vanilla Attila

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>>125448531
Guess it's time to culturally enrich you the hard way, infidel

>happiness/order decreases with garrisons inside the walls

WHY, shouldnt the soldiers create some order?

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I want someone to make a kid for Attila that replaces one of the factions with MERICA, makes their religion 'McDonalds', all of their religious buildings can be little McDonalds', their priests can be Ronald McDonald clowns or Hamburglars or some shit, and factions that end up converting get like -10 growth. Also their unique cav would be fat people on scooters

>>125449259
excellent post

>>125449120

Maybe mentioned what game/mod are you talking about would help

>>125448531
I want all religion roleplayingfags to go.

>>125449340
Rome II

>>125449346
dude the crusades lmao

>>125449403
deus vult m'lady

Has anyone done a campaign yet of the Jutes taking Himyar then converting?

>>125449403
Epic jihad deus vulting palestine bro lmao.

>>125449259
But anon, that would be highly historically inaccurate. McDonalds was only founded many years later, by Columbus

>>125449374
Using DEI? Get that garrison public order submod.

>>125449120
>park an army of a few thousand in a city of ten thousand with an existing garrisson of another thousand
Why are the plebs mad, Titvs?

>>125450181
>park renowned and loved general in a city
>the people get angry
???

>>125450181

It should work like this

Armies should cause unrest until they reach a critical mass where the mere presence of so many soldiers discourages anything, it makes sense for a few hundred soldiers eating and shitting for free causing unrest but when there is an entire army it should be something like martial law

>>125449374
>>125449554
Was Rome II the only game to try and make garrisons hurt morale?

>>125450437
Imo that'd be a good idea but as soon as they leave have a recent "residence" debuff.

>>125450789
I think it does in Atilla?

>>125450789
>>125451031


It's neither Attila or Rome II, it's the DEI mod for Rome II

Any good mods for empire? vanilla is pretty bad

>>125451218
LME, Darthmod.

Which one is superior is a subject of hot debate among scholars!

>>125450789
>>125451031
It's just the DEI mod for Rome 2

This is what happens when attempts at "realism" and "logic" invade a video game that's supposed to be played and enjoyed by people

>>125451218
Don't lose me here anon, It's the only good one he made over his career Darthmod Empire

>>125451218

I've never played empire but people say Darth all the time, so try Darth

>>125451380
>>125451425
>>125451471
Wait but twg always says me that all darth mods are complete garbage, now i'm confused

>>125448832
We hunger for battle

>>125451681

Well empire darth mod is the exception

>>125451786
DEATH IN BATTLE? THERE IS NO FINER ENDING

READY AND IGOR

>>125448832
MAKE A SHOGUN CHART

>>125451681
what fucking part of

>Don't lose me here anon, It's the only good one he made over his career

did you not understand?

Essential Rome II Mods?

Do I need to mod it?

>>125451681
Memery. Darth mod is generally acknowledged as being a great improvement at the very least to empire

>>125452029
uninstall mod
apparently some people like DEI, maybe try that one and see if you like it, note that there are apparently many submods to fix shit that annoys you about DEI

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>>125450437
>martial law draws on for seasons at a time
>people not getting sick of it

No, here's what would happen.
>a general wants to station an army in a city for whatever reason - be it the threat of an attack or the brilliant idea of rooting out crime with field units
>where to house them tho, generalissimo?
>There's the barracks and defensive structures, but the cities own garrisson and law enforcement forces and fresh recruits in training are stationed and housed in some of it. Whatever, they can live for a time in tight quaters.
>There's three major squares in the city, we can set up camps there, preferrably the less reliable forces.
>Still leaves some, gonna have to set them up in people's homes and or larger public complexes
What we'll end up with
>garrisson and army guys hating each other and starting up shit for no other reason than uz vs dem
>soldiers hating being kept in squares and grounds on camp regieme, the populus hating having a their squares and grounds occupied by jugheads leering at their women
>people hating the injustice of having been evicted to house soldiers who'll probably wreck the place anyway
>friction between civil and military authorities over mandates and juristictions
>and there will be incidents
>soldiers will be prioritised for foodstuff and supplies
>there will be incidents and shit hitting the fan in greater or lesser quantities
>this will all happen frequently and surely
>this situation will last for months

Pop-quiz: fit an army to picrelated without stepping on any toes whatso ever. Pro tip: a city with 100% soldiers will not turn a profit.

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Fuck me, I didn't see the thread end.

>>125445751
It had some great ideas, but it was badly executed . It was a huge setting that CA was not ready to handle when it was developed.

The thing with games like M2, Attila or Shogun 2 is that they have coherent design. It's not about the individual mechanics, it's about how they work with each other.

That's why Rome 2 or Empire were clusterfucks, they weren't designed in a polished way (not to mention the technical issues both games had and still have). Sure, both had a few cool mechanics that really stood out, but they didn't work at all with the rest of the game.

Any good overhauls for aoc yet?

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>>125448531
Is saladin OK?

>>125453662
Clearly not

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>>125453805
Fuck you then, I'll be embracing kebab

Mostly pre-islam kebab but still.

Why is the medival 2 pike meme still alive?
Not like a tournament was just won with a pikebox just a while back.

>>125453630
nope

tuskmod is your best bet

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>>125454153
>Fuck you then, I'll be embracing kebab
Go back to Baghdad.

>>125454380
What tournament?

Where?

Who played?

>less than 16 million christians in middle east
>over 50 million in europe

when is this madness going to end? do european leaders want native europeans to die out?

>>125455246
Not him but I remember a video where a player was a well known cav rusher and the other player just pike boxed and managed the win

>>125455246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RG3tXJWYuA

this guy, not sure of the tournament

>>125455478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YODt5mBQbM

This one?

I heard him mention League of Kings, maybe that's the tournament.

I wonder what rules tournaments use.

>>125455613
this one >>125455559

>>125455559
>I can't believe I'm doing this!!!!
>I can't believe I'm doing this!!!!
>I can't believe I'm doing this tactic!!!!
>I can't believe I'm doing this!!!!
>I can't believe I'm doing this tactic guys!!!!
>I can't believe I'm doing this!!!!
Could he be more annoying.

>>125456428

I was thinking the exact same thing, he's acting like he's defeating some god of the game, the guy charged with cav in front of pikes wtf

>>125456612
no choice, box guy had no flank

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I don't think charliecuck liked my invasion of Brittany

>>125456745

He had a choice, you do the same thing in R2 too, you focus on one unit and it will eventually break, there, you have your gap

This guy instead tried to wrap around like a moron

>>125455429
Christianity is a Jewish cult and not native to Europe, idiot.

>>125455613
This doesn't look like vanilla M2, some kind of mod?

>>125456936
to my understanding it is vanilla

>>125456987
fuck maybe it is, I haven't played it in so long I might've just forgotten.

>>125456868
for sure, that would give him a chance, but his army comp was really not suited to breaking a pikebox as russian infantry is shit.

>>125453289
Neat. That is brittany right? Gonna have to vassalize them sometime.

Guys does the M2 collection in the humble bundle include all the expansions and such?

>>125454153
>Mostly pre-islam kebab
>talking about Saladin & posting Umyyads

rightio

>>125457217
Yup

I think they have 2 special units, the other one is also a missile cav

>>125448351
r-roll

>>125456868
He was probably taken by surprise and couldn't really get his shit together to analyse the situation properly. Missile cav propably helped in keeping in off-balance and forcing his hand when he really didn't have a plan. With no missile cav he might ahve gotten over the surprise and thought of something.

>>125448351
Roll

>>125457337
i think it does, even though they're very nad at communicating the fact

>>125457646
not taking no more than 2 units of archers really trashed his chance to win

How do I into Tanukhids?
>turn 1 go to sack nearby ERE town
>immediately raped by 2 stacks
>welp

>>125460146
>hey, want to swap kingdoms
>Sure sounds fun

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>2015
>Not having an Incestuous royal family.

>>125460059

Escape into the sand, you pillage and then fuck off to the sand before coming back to pillage again once the modifier runs out. Once they're worn out you can go on a full shitfucking spree.

Does anyone listened that radio podcast about total war warhammer 4 hours ago?

>>125452351

That's why I rather liked DeI's system. garrisoning an army caused unrest but decreased maintenance costs, while patrolling the country side increased public order but left the army vulnerable to a possible counterattack. It was semi-realistic.

For the kingdom forming objectives in charlemagne, can you have some of the listed regions vassalized or do they have to be directly controlled by your faction?

>>125457342
I do like the umayyads and saladin, but as far as TW goes I play pre-islamic kebabs.

>>125461517
>all those samefag redheads

>>125452351
>>125463824
Agreed. Gameplay wise it can be a bit annoying, but it really is just something else you need to manage and I think it's a nice addition overall.

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Can anyone that plays Charlemagne take a screenshot of the Duchy of Croatia and its generals/units, please?

Dead thread

>>125465854
no u

>>125465685

Got you senpai

http://imgur.com/a/d9eRS

Pretty standard stuff, I avoided taking a screenshot of the standard units but they also have a couple of archers and a swordmen and armoured swordsmen unit

>>125460146
jesus anon what did you do

>>125467057
Oh, they look pretty standard. I was hoping they would maybe put in at least 1 special unit for each minor faction. Thanks senpai.

>>125467508
Croatians have Western units for some reason.
Bohemians and other Elba Slavs have their own units.
BTW Anyone can upload on mediafare the mod unlocking Slavs and Byzantines?

>>125467090
I-i was just minding my own business, getting attacked by suicidal Irishmen, and then when I checked on York then *poof* The Picts and Northumbrians had decided to switch kingdoms.

>>125467650
>Croatians have Western units for some reason.
Well, they were partly under Frankish rule and they are considered to be in that time part of the Frankish sphere of influence as they were allies of the Franks against Avars. Maybe that has something to do with it idk.

>>125467057
I had hoped for some 2 handed high charge bonus Irish or Pict units baka desu senpai

>>125467848
The reason is that CA didn't want to spend time creating a load of unique units for an unplayable faction.

South Slav/Croatian warfare and Frankish warfare had very little in common

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>125468145
every tiem
but seriously, i want some new info

>>125467057
You forgot the Skutatoi swords, family

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Both me (Aragon) and Spain attempted to invade the neutral held Valencia. Pretty cool how you can have three way battles in this game.

Also, how do you retrain units?

>>125453289
Hi there fellow toaster-player. It is nice to know you are comfortable posting your screenshots without fear of mockery.

>>125469679
Open up the training queue, click on an army, drag and drop understrength units into the queue.

>>125449448
Literally did it the day it came out.

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Can anyone see a viable way to win this? I've tried several times and can't do it.

>>125470619
Put your levy dudes on the outside of the walls at the bottom. You are sacrificing them, but while the enemy approaches, you have double the guns firing on the enemy and any enemy engaging them in melee take have lowered defense to the volleys from your better line men above.

>>125470619
Show enemy deployment

>>125469679
Damn, is that the Steam version?

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>>125471260
>>125471882
Deployment, the angle is really bad for getting more than 3 units in wall cover to be able to fire on them approaching (as far as I can tell)

>>125470619
use your levies as sacrifices to delay the soldiers while your line infantry kill them

>>125470619
You're not savescumming, are you?

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>>125472163
Is indeed.

>>125469924
thx

>>125472175
Use the spears to bait the enemy then run laps round your walls (while you're shooting from the walls)

But your main priority is to stop them from climbing the main wall straight to the stop of the castle, try and hold them on the second level

>>125448107
Eleven elven elvators elivated Elvis to the elven evolution elevated elevon.
also moddable warscape campaign maps when, CA
I want to play all those sweet M2 mods on Attila's engine

Any idea when the next warhams race campaign reveal?

Also newbie question, beastmen and chaos warriors are different right? Are they both in Norsca?

>>125453414
Why is Oda a Tokugawa bitch?

Oda is much stronger.

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Damn, these guys look bretty gud!

>>125472309
=^)

This is why we should have the option of legendary mode anti-save scum in more reasonable difficulties.

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>>125472175
Just replicated your setup, It was quite easy desu

>>125472175

Is this the Land of the Rising Sun mod?

If so that accuracy nerf is probably why you're getting raped.

>>125474581
Interesting you managed it so quickly then, I must be doing something terrible wrong. What strategy did you employ?

>>125474581

He has line infantry and not Shogunate Guard, also he's playing a mod that changes the accuracy of line infantry to like 35.

>>125474714
Thought you had Shogunate Guard my mistake. Let me try again

>>125473848
Beastmen live in many different places. Some live in the woods inside empire borders. Norscan people(norse/viking like people) can become chaos warriors. Chaos warriors are usually consists of norscan and kurgan people.

>>125472532
Post more M1

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>>125474714
Done. Here's deployment.

>>125473986

That Cordoba?

Also I forgot to ask Meloncat if he knows anything about introducing the AOC lighting to normal Attila, it feels more natural

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>>125476519
Routed the Katana straight away

Waited till they got close to the line before I started firing, then kited

>>125475984
I'm downloading it now, looking forward for some nostalgia

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>>125475984
>tfw your dreams of a Greater Cumania come crashing down.

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>>125476825
Levy delt with the spears on the outside

Switched attention to otherside, Line Infantry held the wall until the enemy started climbing then pulled them back for more shots

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>No generals
>No sons
>No brothers

Tsuffering

>>125477187
This is your chance to have an anime army with a bunch of kawaii as your generals

>In Last Roman and Charlemagne, the old barbarian kingdoms use Roman building types
>In Attila, the barbarian kingdoms have to convert glorious Roman cities into shitty barbar ones

Needs more MOOOODS to fix this.

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>>125477134
Heroic victory

>>125476519
>>125476825
>>125477134
>>125477716
This was an interesting insight to how bad I am at Total War, appreciate it.

I am waiting for a steam sale o buy attila. hopefully it will be 75% off. In the mean time i pirated attila to see how fun it is and I like it so far but for some reason mods won't work. is it because I have a pirated version? I put the mods in thedata foloder which is just new flags and less colonization cost but it doesnt work when i am in game.

>>125477908
What did you do different?

Plus keep in mind the deployments are not the same, I may of had it easier.

Oh no, M1 crashes after the intro ;_;

Gonna ask for refund, I got so excited :(

>>125478142

yeah its because its pirated

>>125477320
I wish my son had fucked a kawaii anime before he died and left a son the fuckhead.

Now I need to wait to find a general to adopt.

>>125478297
You might of had a homo son, that shit was common with nippon nobles.

They would still have the responsibility of creating children.

>>125478256
Use redux mod. It work on everything.

>>125478608
I think the main issue was my son dying out of fucking nowhere turn 1.

>Winning fight easily
>Son gets shot and died

>>125478202
Playing too defensively on deployment I think, your deployment looks much easier for splitting them apart

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Going to give the game a run in the Pike and Shot mod.

Time to invade Scotland.

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>>125479668
The Cromwellian English and Covenenter Scots stand equal in the Scottlish highlands.

>>125478663
Still doesn't work

What OS are you using?

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>>125479882
As the clansmen charge, the New Model Musketmen open fire into their ranks, Artillery also lays into their lines.

>>125478142

Nigga don't be a scab. If you're gonna play pirated, you have the pirate experience of not having up to date patches etc. Once you buy the game you can download Radious, the greatest mod that has ever been dreamt of.

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>>125480165
Right before impact, the Muskets retreat behind the lines of pikemen prepared to meet the Scots. This is going to be a bloody encounter.

>>125479915
NVM

Ran with administrator, seems like it works

>>125480323
A veritable work of its time, Radious mod is an author’s input on the contemporary attitude so critical of mods that they’re often not given a chance at all, a window through which we see the creator’s wish to move his audience, as well as frustrations at the vessels of these emotions being ignored or enjoyed as “low art”.

Attempts at analyzing Radious mod’s implications and unraveling its messages necessitate great concentration and effort, which is further exacerbated when so much of my blood flows elsewhere than my brain when enjoying this mod.

Radious mod is a journey, an embodiment of a search fundamental to our humanity yet abandoned by contemporary society; Radious Mod is the eternal quest for perfection. As philosophers and "understanders of strategy" alike vainly peruse the void of their hollow souls for an abstract ideal, they achieve naught save for casting the community into desecration. Delving further into the hypothetical and the metaphysical only reinforces the misbelief that true beauty lies within. “Homosexuality,” Plato wrote, “is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments, Both of which apply to contemporary society.

"Quod culus tibi purior salillo est, nec toto decies cacas in anno; atque id durius est faba et lapillis. Quod tu si manibus teras fricesque, non umquam digitum inquinare posses.”

As tremors of mirth reverberate through my corpus; my finite faculties discharged; my soul emancipated. Such is the power of Radious Mod. Radious Mod is not everyone’s cup of tea. It is perhaps best treated as a lengthy parable. For the actively dismissive it will hardly make much of an impression other than being an ordinary mod with a cheap attempt at improving the game. For others with willing ears and eyes to match, it can be a novel take on the values and motivations surrounding the genre.

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>>125480407
And just like that, I've lost another fucking battle.

Why is this game so hard /twg/?

>>125478663
For some reason I can't get that mod installed, it never lets me paste all the files in to install.

Pretty annoying since i've heard it's quite good.

>>125480323
how does radious attila compare to rome 2 radious?

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>>125480478
>>125480796


VISIGOTHIC REINFORCEMENTS

NOBLE GREENSKIN CATAPHRACTS

>>125480478


What is this pasta from anyway, I know the levels of idiocy are TWC tier but I'm curious about what mode was it for in the first place.

>>125481131

You forgot rhompaia archer

>>125481131
>NOBLE GREENSKIN CATAPHRACTS
I dont know what you are implying here...

>>125481767
I think it's because Radious includes a whole shitton of bullshit units for no reason that make absolutely zero sense.

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>>125448832
Rolling

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>>125482234
>Mounted Matchlock Kisho Ninja

Why does every reveal in Total War Warhammer make the game seem worse and worse?

>>125482851

I thought each reveal has made me more hyped. Im currently worried that the actual battles will be a tactical nightmare with micro hell

>>125482664

What's that from?

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>>125476806

I have no idea how to but that explains why I thought something was amiss when I was checking stuff in AOC. The lighting seems very different.
AE guy if you are here I'll upload the tweaked exomis from R2 that fits on Attila bodies. It looks a little baggy because the damn fatties had too much love-handles that clipped through it, so I had to make it a bit larger.

All the unarmored tiers of Moors are done, so moving onto armored. I need to get op-onions on the mail retexture I've done but I'll get screencaps of it later.

Mutatatwi'a Volunteers (Berber levy spear and Andalusian infantry) at the top, then Berber Raiders as Berber Horsemen and Berber Jinetes as Berber Nobles at the bottom.

>>125483003

I tend to micro anyways, since I can just pause the game and issue orders as needed. As such, I'm not HORRIBLY worried about it.

>>125482851
I'm actually getting more hopeful the more I see of it. The one thing I was a little apprehensive about was the very Rome II-esque settlement management.

>>125483153

I think arabs weren't big on beards at this time Meloncat, actually I think they were pretty much mostly shaven

>>125482234
ahh okay makes sense. Is what the poster said one of the ones in attila? how far outlandish does he go with attila?

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Since 1.1 I haven't been able to get DEI to work for me at all
It works, but trying to load campaign or battles crash it
I usually use the user.script method for mods, and I tried the launcher version too, can't get it to work,

>>125483669
Don't believe their lies. Radious does extensive research into the time period before he makes new units for the various factions.

>>125483817
I am 1000% sure hte romans didn't use gladiators to fight in theirarmies

Weird shit happens when I try to manually fight battles, a few seconds in, the screen will flicker and then turn to black. I can still alt-tab but can't alt-tab back into the game, the sound is still running too. My drivers are up-to-date

>>125483962

Well you would be wrong because they occasionally did.

Where the fuck can I download patches for Rome 2
t. Pirate

>>125484120
This is for Attila, no battle mods

>>125484286

check temps

disable overlays like steam, fraps and the like

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>>125483817
>>125483669

>OSTROGOTHIC SHARP SPEARS

>VISIGOTHIC FAST AXEMEN

>MOUNTED NAGINATA NINJA

>CHOSEN WARRIOR PRIESTS OF GORK

>>125484627
do oyu have pictures? would love to see the bullshit units he made.

>>125484627
All three of those make sense.

That fourth one is just you making a poor joke. Radious would study Warhammer lore before making new units.

>>125483609

That did seem to be the case in some of the period representations I saw but they were also more the pre-islamic stuff. You're probably right but I kind of like the beards and in general went with some anachronism choices to achieve an iconic look. What I would bear in mind though is these units are a polygot diverse bunch. In general if they are wearing the animal skin mantle or the cloth drape they are berbers. If they are wearing the knee length tunic they are Andalusians or Arabs, and if they are wearing the long kaftan they are either Arabs, Arabized berbers (probably jumping the gun chronologically with there being Arabized berbers - I think they occured more into the 9th and 10th and 11th century after you had Arab bedouin migrating into the maghreb) or maybe Andalusians.

Technically speaking stuff seemed to cast doubt that the Andalusians wore turbans ever, choosing to go bare headed or wear the qalansuwa (little felt hat with or without a slight turban wrap). However this is almost within living memory of the Umayyad conquest of Spain and still when you had the Arab Junds with men of fighting age having migrated/fled to Spain. So I thought turbans could be more prevalent than say, the late 800s or 900s when a more distinct Andalusian identity developed.

I can scale down the % chance of beards, though. It's at 75% right now, but I'll keep it there for now though I could drop it to 50%.

>>125484627
there is LITERALLY nothing wrong with any of those, who is paying you to do this?

>>125485181

>all three of those make sense

I know this is bait, but how does "ostrogothic sharp spears" make sense? That would imply that are entire units of men fighting on the field with dulled spears, like their commander said "alright, everyone with dull weapons step into this group, and people that actually bothered taking care of their weapons stand over in this group"

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>tfw you take your ultra-nationalism out on a videogame

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There's even a damn Ancient World mod for this game.

And no, I'm not talking about Punic Rome to Empire Rome, i'm talking seperate scenarios for The Age of Chariots, the Sea People invasion (one of /twg/'s best memes imo), the Sea People recovery, the wars of Alexander, and the fucking Punic Wars.

Best £6 i've ever spent. I wonder what mods Shogun I has.

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>Attila and Rome 2 are so bad people are actually turning back to Medieval 1

>>125486037
Mongol invasion from what I can remember

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>>125486175
That's just the expansion isn't it?

>>125486312
Yeah, didn't really read your post desu, sorry.

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>>125486121
m8, i'm the biggest Rome II/Attila fan in this general by no doubts, i've even preordered Total Warhammer and have the map plastered on my wall.

Loving the series means loving it all.

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>>125484627
>>125485154
>>125485181
>>125485705
N O D A C H I N I N J A H E R O

>>125487014
what about from rome 2 or attila?

>>125485181
>>125485705
t. Radious

>>125485785
>2015
>having faith in Germany

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>>125487186

>>125486037
If you're interested, a Bronze Age mod is being made for R2

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>want to replay Shogun 2
>remember the sonic battles, instarout ashigaru, spiderman siege attackers, lack of variety and historical inaccuracy

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>>125487946
Oh yeah I've seen it, looks pretty damn cool. How is progress coming along on it if you know?

>>125488127
Well mods can fix some of it kinda.

>>125483721
Are the savegames from the new version or old version? If the latter they're corrupt and useless.

They currently have a beta patch on the twcenter forums which will be added to workshop when its ready.

>>125488345
The last post was from November 1st, saying a preview would be up in a week and the full release soon after. I don't know what to think of it.

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>>125488402
>modding shogun 2
Just stick to le classics :^)

>>125485717
Look up Ostrogothic Sharp Spears and you'll find that the Romans called them that. The Ostrogoths used far deadlier spears than others during that time period.

>>125487014
There is nothing wrong with that. Ninjas used whatever would strike fear into people's hearts.

Is Attila's performance actually bad or is it a lingering meme from when it launched?

I want to buy it next tuesday when the winter sale begins but if its got crappy performance there is no point.

>>125488480
oops, nevermind, here's the release

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?697884-Age-of-Bronze-Official-Release-1-2-Download-Last-Updated-16-11-2015

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>>125488127
>historical inaccuracy
Care to explain?

>>125488823
It's garbage

But you might as well buy it and try it, there's refunds now after all

>>125477716
I'd it possible to get a heroic victory in attila, I routed and wiped out at least half of a croatian army with a general cav and another heavy cav, several units of swords, archers and spears as the avars with 2 militia spears and 1 militia archer for the loss of only one spear permanently and I got a phyrrhic victory......

>>125488823
It does run noticeably worse than Rome 2, but it depends on what your threshold for bad performance is. How good is your system?

>>125487778
bullshit that is in radious

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>>125489029
>Rout their 14,000 men with my 5000 + garrison
>close victory

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Fucking hell WRE is tiresome to play
Motherfucking barbar every turn at least 3 times for fucks sake

>>125488809
>There is nothing wrong with that. Ninjas used whatever would strike fear into people's hearts.

I hope you're fucking kidding, kid.

>>125490078
It's true. Shogun 2 represented it with the ninja agent's mask becoming more demonic. However, for the ninjas used on the battlefield, Radious decided to just use a large, powerful weapon. It makes sense and it fits with the history of a ninja.

>>125465387
Notice that two of them are actually the same person. Follow the family tree lines and you'll see that husband and wife are both direct defendants of the king.

>>125461517
Asturias gets close enough by having 1/3 of generals and family members named "Bernando" that arr rook da same

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>>125489080
I can run Rome 2 on extreme with no issues.

pic related is my rig. Monitor is outdated now as I ordered a 28 inch 75hz one earlier. Which should arrive tomorrow morning.

>>125490078

While you are being rused, you using kid makes you look loke an ass

>>125491801
Yeah I run Rome 2 on extreme as well, but I get 10FPS zoomed in on Attila battles

>>125473848
Only 5 are at launch:

>Empire
>Orks
>Dwarves
>Vampire Counts
>Chaos

DLC races post launch will probably add 3-4 more because they need some races for the 2 standalone expansions that enhance the scale of the gameworld if installed alongside the basegame.

This 12 days of Festag event has many thinking the 12th day will be a teaser video of the Vampire gameplay video reveal date in the new year.

>>125492093
So basically the game is an unoptimized mess.

Would lowering certain graphics like shadows help?

>>125492609
This is with everything except unit sizes on Low. I guess I could play with less troops but anything less than Ultra x2 feels shit to me now.

>>125491801
I have a 4690K and 970, and it will drop to <30fps on a mix of high/ultra when zoomed in. Usually nothing as extreme as >>125492093 but you won't be maintaining a solid 60.

>>125491801
>Toshiba HDD
>not a WD Blue

>>125492609
Don't bother with SSAO or screen space reflections, anti-aliasing low, unit quality on high rather than ultra off the top of my head.

>>125492787
do you have SSAO enabled?

>>125492765
>>125492787
>>125493180
You guys tried the launcher trick?

Open Rome 2 then select Attila from that then press play. It boosted my fps by as much as 20 compared to launching directly. Maybe I'm just lucky. I'm getting 80-90fps on Campaign map and about 35-40 on close up battles. On High/Ultra settings.

If i launch directly the campaign map is around 70 and the battles are 15-20.

It really is an unoptimised mess and instead of being money grabbing jews they should do a major performance patch. I'd rather have that than a reskin DLC.

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>>125494469
>Open Rome 2 then select Attila from that then press play. It boosted my fps by as much as 20

am i being memed on

>>125494097
I turned it off.

>>125494650
Apparently that was a solution for some people on the Total War forums, but Steam will think you're playing Rome 2 instead of Attila.

I want to buy AoC but I need to know if it still has that retarded Public Order system of original Attila.
I never played the Last Roman so I don't really know about that one in specific.

>>125495394
A lot of buildings no longer come with as much food/squalor/public order penalties. The underlying system is still the same though.

>>125495759
Goddamn it.

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>try the launcher trick
>it actually works

what fucking bullshit is this

>>125495957
no fucking way

So, will Charlie die if I kill him enough times on the battlefield, like Atilla? I'm tired of CA's bullshit immortal generals.

>>125496057
I used to zoom in on any large mass of troops and slow down to a crawl, now I've got a managable FPS on quality settings

CA are so fucking incompetent

>>125495957
You're welcome.

>>125496310
why do devs do this shit

>People actually think Attila is good when the units are basically ants

at least in the other Total Wars you could see your units. Also, >Axe Men

>>125497014
Straight up. This should be put in the OP from now on, if it works for other people as well. Man I've been bashing Attila's optimization for ages. Who knew the solution was so retarded?

It says on my Steam that I'm playing Attila as well.

>>125495957
whats the trick?

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You're walking through the slave market with your bitch when this guy slaps your girls ass. You raise your fist but he says he'll sic the Republic on you if you hit him, what do you do?

>>125497367
see
>>125494469

>>125497367
Read the fucking thread you mong

>>125497549
too much work m8

Where to get a cheap key for rome 2? I don't wanna be jewed of 60 bucks for a piece of shit

>>125498310
there was a sale last week and there's a winter sale like next week

>>125494469
Holy shit it works. 50-55fps now on campaign map and about 25-30fps give or take on close up battles. An increase of 15 for campaign map and 10 for battles.

Also says I'm playing Attila not Rome as one anon said it doesn't show up.

Thanks anon. This confirms it. CA are inept.

Until they finally do a performance patch(they will right?) this is a workaround for me. Hope it works for others as there are people with rigs twice as powerful as mine struggling.

>>125497274


This shit actually works? I remember it from Attila's launch.

Anyway everything happens for a reason if it runs well now that means something has been disabled that was not present in Rome II


Wanna hear something funny? I rember the exact same thing when Rome II came out, just with people saying to use the appdata from shogun II

>>125494469
requesting this to be part of future OP's

>>125498310
Anon Humble bundle right now. Total War encore can get a big chunk of games and DLC packs for $15.

https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly

Buy the missing DLC/packs on the steam sale next week when all Rome 2 related DLC drops to 75% off.

>>125485785
Gute Arbeit Kamerad

>>125498949
>>125494469
>>125498632
I'll make the next thread and add it to it

>>125498632
what is your rig?

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>>125494469
>>125498632
>>125499357
>>125498949
Oh wow, an extra 1 frame per second, thanks for the help /twg/, this is really OP worthy.

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Alright, managed to almost double my fps with a modified launcher trick, going to test it a few times to ensure then post it here

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done a cheeky screenshot for future use

>>125499724
As the guy said he doesn't know if it works for everyone but it did for him. Others are also saying it works for them.

Stop being an ass at least he's trying to help unlike CA who are just happy rubbing their shekels whilst a great game languishes in performance hell. They really need a performance patch asap.

The game will be out a full year come February and to me it sounds like they viewed Attila as a test run of mechanics for Warhammer and now abandoned it as the April launch of Warhammer gets closer.

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>>125500047
I hope so. I can't get to my gaming rig at the moment but I'll also try it later.

Then anon becomes one with the /twg/ bro's.

>>125497147
Are you a retard?

>>125497147
Have you tried zooming in?

>>125500773

He's making a joke about the nature of TW games, it didn't come out well, took me a while to realize it

>>125498958
What was the price of Rome 2 when it was on sale?

>>125502731
15$ with no DLC i believe
use the humble bundle

Who won?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oOm_2dGzqp0

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>>125500047
Alright yeah, I'm happy to report that it works solidly!

Ok so you're going to want to launch RTW and select the EB campaign.
That's it. Not only do you get more FPS, you even get a better game to boot.

>>125504307
I see a Roman and some black guy in the embed. I'm guessing that black guy is supposed to be Hannibal. Why do people hate history?

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>>125504443

>>125504443
>click embed
>"Shaka Zulu vs Julius Casear" in the title
Clearly this is Hannibal

>>125504307
Shaka won because I'm not a racist nazi

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>Ancient Empires still not out

I can't contain it

>>125473986
A simple reskin and they are the Unsullied from Game of Thrones.

>>125504307
>Caesar talks about enslaving black people
That video is racist

>>125504869
>unsullied

Aren't they just mercenary spearmen?

>>125504869
what

not at all

>>125505023

Shaka Zulu banned wheat after his mother died, it's the main reason why he was killed.

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>>125473986
Good kuffar! Good.

Accept Islam as Europe's fate ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8BcSGYfv9c

>>125505143
stop enabling racism, this video is offensive

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>>125504773
>dreamcast
>worth of being roman

>>125473986

Those beautiful graphics, I wish Attila always looked like that and not only during spring and summer

I need to find a way to import the light settings to the grand campaign

>>125504307
That wheat line won it for Caesar desu.

>>125505198

Literally no one in the comments is complaining, you're the only one sperging out.

>>125455559
Holy shit that is just bad.

This is a tournament?

>>125486037
MTW is awesome in that broken sort of way.

You haven't lived until your 9-star, 23-valor general disposes of entire armies by himself.

>>125505608
its scripted tard

>>125505608

I remember my first game online like 8 years ago in m2tw I beat my clan leader, then I realized that maybe they aren't so good, the guy was even up an hill althiugh I don't remember if it has any effects in m2tw.

I kinda miss Legio Valeria Victrix, I wonder if they are still active.

https://youtu.be/tkSRU1qQNzc?t=1h29m54s

Never forget the legends. 1:29:54

Someone here playing Arena or am I the only one? Just got it with the humble bundle and trying it out right now.

>>125506267

I used to play it but it had a lot of problems (well it was a beta or something), I'll give it some more time and try again in the future

Can someone explain raiding mechanics in Attila? I.e. how the amount of money gained is calculatdd

>>125448832
>>125448351
Roll

>>125506745


It should be based on the number of men and the prosperity of the province

>>125507051
Thanks anon.

Do you know how if it's a linear effect based on number of men, if it's province or region based?

Also apparently trade routes give loads of money, any idea how it calculates how much of it?

provincial edict in the province of provence

>>125507375
trade is based off of resource exchange, with tarrif modifiers and long time partner bonuses
get a bunch of resources, and find some long term trade allies

>>125507375

No idea about trade routes, I've only raided them in shogun 2

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>>125488901

>>125507375
>>125507565
>>125507580
not the same guy but, in attila, does raiding on top of a trade route modify how much you make from it?

>>125508317
Idk, as sedentary factions I've never thought to check. I know blockades stop all income for both parties. Raids, not so sure about.

Tell me your dirtiest TW secret, /twg/.

I use cheat mods to play Attila because fuck the Public Order bullshit

>>125508553
It'd be pretty cool if that was the case, because it really doesn't make sense to get the same raiding income from a trade route or from a far away spot in the same region.

>>125508684
I played R2 for 3 days straight, no sleep.
Right after it launched

>>125508317
You don't raid a single trade route, you raid ALL trade in a specific region of sea, ally, enemy, and neutral alike

>>125508759
Oh wait, I misinterpreted what you said. You have to be standing on the route (or maybe zone of control it) to get raiding income. You can't jusyt be in the region. Look for the little carts or for your cursor to give the trade route symbol, and that's where you need to raid. You can get fuckloads in the early game in between Genoa and Mediolanium, as it has the ERE-WRE trade route.

You can even be at peace with the WRE while doing it

>>125508684
If I see that a battle is going to be heavily wooded when I would like to command the battle personally, I exit the battle and auto-resolve.
Fuck that noise. The AI sure as fuck isn't getting a handicap and they know exactly where all of their troops are, where my troops are and where everyone's going and when.

>>125509102
Oh, so it IS like that? Awesome, I've been wondering if it worked like that pretty much since Attila came out.

>>125509064
right, but do you have to be on top or close to a trade route?

>>125509587
>right, but do you have to be on top or close to a trade route?

no, but you can see the trade routes that run through a region and it gives you a run down of the trade worth in a region. So long as you raid, then you get a value proportional to that regional trade worth.

>>125508684

The Huns are my favourite faction of all time until the Greenskins arrive

Looting and razing settlements gives me infinite pleasure

>>125509838
>>125509838
Oh, how unfortunate.

>>125508684
I'm a devout Catholic but...

I play Stainless Steel as the muslim factions in a migration game by sailing north into Europe and converting the entire continent to Islam, I also rename the cities,towns and castles to more appropirate names or historical names i.e Silves as we know it was called Shilb by the Al-Andalus era. I'm not proud but its fun.

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There's not enough peace to go around, and the Romans are starting to get desperate. Your turn.

>tfw due to Attilas optimisation issues it's now become a city builder lite with auto resolves and some RPG like elements with the campaign map which is a constant 60+fps.

At least it's a pretty campaign map in the dark foreboding way.

>>125512352
yeah if you have a toaster maybe lmao

Playing Shogun 2 for first time, Fall of the Samurai version.

I severely underestimated the importance of navies. Early game there was only 1 or 2 enemy ships that I sunk easily with my starter fleet, so I focused on land armies.

Then late game I get absolutely fucked by coastal bombardments.

>>125512352
I really hate what they've done with building management. I liked it better when it depended on the size and type of settlement, rather than getting X amount of slots. Min-maxing provinces/cities is fucking lame.

>>125512782
Dudes with 980ti's and i7's OC'ed to 4.7ghz can barely hit 30fps at extreme settings anon.

CA fucked up. All the complaints in this thread are testament to that.

>>125512954
I feel like the Total War games have gotten further and further away from what they are ostensibly about: total war. Now they are more like civic administration simulations where occasionally you go to war with people.

>>125513274
Honestly, I think it'd be OK if it wasn't so poorly implemented. I wish building your empire had some real weight to it, but the way the management system is now, it feels hollow

>>125511991
Desperate

>>125513274

I find it to be pretty fucking fun, it's not like you make that many choices in building. You just have to account for specialty resources and port slots. If they had a better graphic to see the minuses and pluses for public order etc it'd be just fine

>>125512352
I don't get it, can't you just play the battles from far away, you know, pretty much the only comfortable way of doing it?

>dat fucking warhammer dev video
>"This continent is just the start as time goes on we have 2 full expansions expanding eastwards and to the west with new continents,races,mechanics and features not to mention DLC's which expand the games aswell."

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Total War: the Warring War to Totally Total all Warlike Wars Warred by Totalitarian Wafare Warmongers when

Sorry for being newfag
I been wanting to get into this series for awhile but havnt got the chance to since I heard there is some learning curve
and since I just bought the humble buncle pack I thought I might just try it out

which one should I start with?

>>125512954
AoC helped curb that shit with the resources making it clear which provinces you should really pour shekels into for development
Toldeo is industry all the way baby, and the southern two provinces of Spain are Cathedral provinces because fuck Islam Valencia is all about the commerce, and so is Gascony
That's all I did before fucking off because the battles got real boring for me

>>125448351
rolling

>>125514135
>Portugal starts with Pamplona

Fuck, I completely forgot about that

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Just posting these 3 links, 2 for info about the game and the 3rd for extremely detailed map of the old world:

Game info:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?705003-List-of-factions-in-the-current-game-build
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?704735-My-findings-of-settlements%28regions%29-in-the-current-campaign-map-build

The DLC is going to be huge in this. I can tell. GW are rubbing their hands at the Warhammer fans and the Total War fans.

Detailed world map:
http://www.gitzmansgallery.com/shdmotwow-full.html