/twg/ - Total War General

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>>125367557

2nd for Shogun 2

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>tfw Medieval 2 isn't fun to play
>tfw Medieval 3 never ever

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>tfw EB2

>tfw Epirus
>romans hate me
>greeks hate me

What do you guys think of Divide et Impera?

>Ten contubernia of eight men
>a century
>80 = 100
stop that romans

>>125367557
>That one pastebin is still there

>>125367876
Y-you can always hang with barbar, Greek-sama

>>125367876
You can add me to that list

>>125368140
I just wanted to chill with my elephants

>>125368279
Are elephants good moral breakers?

>>125368375
Yes

>>125368375

No, they fall apart when confronted with unshakeable belief.

How to save the WRE in Atilla

>cut corruption by establishing Emperor and people as governors
>destroy all your churches to save a fuckload of dosh
>Abandon Britain in a calm orderly fashion
>Be prepared for famine by understanding wheat fields will eventually be useless in certain places
>Maintain the ERE's good side for the love of god
>keep fleeing barbars as a buffer against Huns
>Spain is awesome, develop and protect it
>North Africa is awesome, develop and protect it
>if a province is hit hard by famine, cut their taxes, they keep their food rather than sharing it
>worry more about military tree than civic
>better to have cheaper units with more casualties and more money than great units with less casualties and no money

>>125368693
Legendoftotalwar told me that war tree is useless

>>125368820
Legend of Total War is not a legend.

>>125368820
Legendoftemporarypeace is a fuddy duddy

>>125368820
Personally, I find that getting whatever civilian technology you need to get walls on non-capital settlements and whatever military technology improves crossbowmen are the two most important aspects of playing WRE. Get the right chokepoints with this and some garrisons and you get an almost impenetrable defense.

>>125368820
>Legend of Autism

>>125368820
>legend of islam

>>125369453
>we must protect and nurture the Muslimlings... in a way that doesn't render them slaves of the state

>>125368939
>>125368956
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>>125369453

Holy shit guys Xd

>>125370596
sup Legion of Tattle Wart

>>125367879
never play it since it takes forever to load on my potato

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Why are people complaining about Warhammer world looking too similar to Earth?

All big Fantasy franchises do it. LotR and GoT also base their settings in reality.

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>>125370639
>that quality

Anon, please

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>>125370639

>>125370712
Most of that nippon/cathay/ind stuff is basically placeholders anyway.

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>>125370750
Post pics then, I don't care.

>tfw I can't play Attila until FOTE is done with all factions

Everytime I start I have to quit after I see unedited rosters

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>>125371023

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>>125371023

>>125370639
I love looking at their legs, makes them all look like an army of goobers.

>>125371108
Thanks! I will make sure to download 'Fall of the Eagle' from the Steam Workshop right this second! :)

I heard nothing but good things about it from all my friends, and I can't wait to dive in myself!

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>>125371214

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>>125371472

Why is Attila so horribly optimized? I really hope Warhammer won't be like that.

Guys Prom has come out of hiding
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?705032-Battle-map-Editor

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>>125371023
ok

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>>125371668
>>125371741
Now we talking

>>125371737

Is he the "THE SANDALS ARE WRONG" guy

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>>125371890
damn right bruh

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>>125372103

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>>125372505
Why Egypt so bad at fighting

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>>125372505

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>>125372795
very cool

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>>125372795
nice

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I want to post pictures too

I just got attila and age of charlemange, never played rome 2. Is Charlemange a good faction to get into things?

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>>125373225
go for it bro

QUESTION TIME

Should the Lusitani Empire continue it's expansion to the east?

Or should they expend northwards? Not towards our Barbaric friends, but there is talk of a huge island at the edge of the world in dire need of civilization?

>>125373589
remove kebab

>>125373441
Main campaign wise I think Franks are a good point to start at, AoC wise Merica and Asturias have so far been easiest, Merica has a more standard roster but they have to fight some annoying wars early on
I haven't played as Charles yet

>>125373589
Submit to Roman rule.

>>125373698

>retards

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>>125373745
Never

>>125373589
eastward. create the perfect whitewashed antiquity

Javelins of all kinds mow through anything so fucking fast in Attila and Charlemane

I can't fucking deal with it, they attack from the front and kill 40 men in shieldwall in a volley

>>125374039
Javelins are good vs anything in real life

>>125374039
>my solution to dealing with enemies is to have my troops sit there and take it until the enemy decides it's time to stop

hm

What mods for Rome 2 my senpaitachi

>>125367842
>Medieval 3 never ever
Why not, excluding ye olde games and Shogun 2.

Rome 1 (antiquity) => Barb Invasion (dark ages) => Medieval 2 (medieval) => Kingdoms (includes early renaissance) => Empire (colonial era) => Napoopan (early XIXth century) => FoTS (late XIXth century)

Following this logic the next TW would include WW1 or at very least Vicky era, both of which would be hard to handle with the current TW design due to sheer scale, so they rebooted the series.


Rome 2 (antiquity) => Attila (dark ages) => Charlemagne (early medieval) => ???

Warhammer isn't historical, it's histerical

>>125374386
DEI

>>125373846
>>125373698
Eastwards it is then.

>>125373716
Franks for the main campaign huh? alright, thanks. As for Charly, i've screwed around with Mercia for my first time to see how the game works. Mostly it was fairly easy, except for some bastard wWelshmen who kept razing my city and London being so putrid and foul its diseases started spreading to the rest of the Isles. Pretty fun.

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Gotta pray. Battle is no excuse.

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Back to my Asturias campaign.

Now, we're preparing to invade Sicily, and simultaneously hit Pamplona, which has been exiled into Bayonne. We're going to establish a defensive perimeter along the Pyrenees, with enough garrisons to hold off small invasions.

It's refreshing to no longer be facing cav-packed Moorish armies.

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Is this even accurate? Gastald Swordsmen for anyone wondering. Guv's reskin since there isn't any other that I saw.

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Avars are really fun and those god damn horse archers are op beyond compare!

>>125375240
It is not accurate.

>>125375430
Have you gotten to the later melee cav yet?

I liked the horse archers, but the only shock cavalry I could recruit so far was pretty whack

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For those who can't decide

>>125375632
is there a rome 2 one?

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>>125375632
And the Charlemagne one

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>>125375813

>>125375632
>>125375830
rollan

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>>125376065

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Pictured: Kentish levies bravely defending their kingdom.

>>125375526
Avars don't have melee cav, it's all shock and archer.

Is age of charlemagne any good? I want KNIGHTS

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>Anglo-Saxons

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I defeated the Sassanids in a huge battle as White Huns before entering Persia. Then I teamed up with ERE, demolished the entirety of Persia, ended all their satrapies and razed Ctesiphon to dust. But still despite my best efforts the Sassanids are #1 and wrecked the shit out of my buddy, the ERE.

>>125376808
Do you know if the later shock cavalry any good?

>>125376829
>KNIGHTS
"early middle ages"

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>>125375061

I love playing with heavy onagers, haven't been able to since way back in my first campaign as the Visigoths. Them explosive rounds, man.

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>>125375830
Emirate plz

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>>125377017
>Angled Sextants

>>125377089
Is there ever any reason to not use the flaming rounds if you are not shooting and stone towers?

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>>125377089

That carnage. Half of those men are from the onagers.

Can't wait to use them on the remaining Moors.

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>>125377156
Hmm, I can do with Vikings.

>>125377023
I just had a game where the Sassanid emperor started out with 'admires Eastern Romans'. The ERE still fell apart by itself and the Sassanids had destroyed the White Huns by turn 30.

what's the goat mod for atilla?

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>mfw I just discovered the White Huns are playable

>>125377719
They added them last week with the AoC patch

"If you can play Attila on Ultra at 60+fps you can do the same with Warhammer. Just like with Attila the extreme setting is designed for future hardware, in fact we've given better textures to units whilst reducing their performance impact" -livesteam.

Gonna hold them to that.

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How do I git gud in attila? I'm getting assfucked as ERE

>>125375830
Going to do this roll early for the faction after Lombards (already did Asturias).

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am i fucked?
>at first i was rolling charlie, i took him out twice and took several towns,
> i let up for about 3 turns to recover my armies and get originized, then charlie comes back out of the fog
>he came with 3 full stacks right as a rebellion started up in another province ,
> fighting for my life now
> i lost the initial battle, but was able to cripple two of his stacks (both together now are about equal to half a stack)
> there is still a full doom stack led by charlie himself

the rebels in the picture have about 3/4s of a stack, and I'm recruiting a new army quick as i can

>>125377967
Take it slow man

When you get attacked in your towns, fight the battle instead of autoresolving. Your towers and defensive testudo will shred an attacker. You might even win sometimes.

Keep half stacks ready to pounce on worn out enemies after they attack you and you should be able to stabilise. That's how you can get rid of the Visigoths and really blunt the sissynids. Sassanid's are awful in street fighting, just make sure to always have your armies in towns if there are enemy stacks in range. They will drop 4 at a time on you

Your starting melee units can't kill people for shit, but they are tanky as hell. Use scout equites and merc cav to hit enemies in the rear once they've engaged. Levis Armaturae are also really good at dealing out loads of damage.

. Oh and git gud my friend

>>125378383

Do as your cousins did a few hundred years ago, and relocate to Britain.

Which Spain province is the super rich one again?

The time has come to settle my horde

so

I have total war atilla on steam

and i have the three DLC's, last roman, sand and char pirated through RLD

the DLC's are fucking 10gb each

what files actually dictate the DLC content and what do i copy over to my STEAM version to have it have the DLC version? I am fine with cracking my steam version

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I'm sorry I fell asleep. Here's the save for the guy who got mad at me.

https://mega.nz/#!QQQzWCjS!jQiqQ5C1GaN7u6_QMsiIMf02fpmkjEYowsHbyMiv9TY

This was the minor victory with a nation of Geats with zero to no techonology and mostly made of slingers. I think I started disbanded dudes for like extra money.

>playing medieval 2
>steadily destroying france
>they have 2 settlements left
>they still demand i become a vassal

is this french arrogance or ai stupidity

what does it take for the AI to become your vassal also

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>>125377017
>Tangelo Sections

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>>125380319
I was given a minor victory at this point. I don't really have any armies. I have a lot of slingers and spearmen though

>>125381389
>>125380319

Err were you playing on easy or something, anon?

Is anybody else seeing a weird glitch where wives and daughters on the family tree are male? Tried starting both Mercia and Westphalia campaigns and it happened both times

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Walls be murder lads

>>125381840
nah the game just searchers your browser history :-)

>>125378943

>Your towers and defensive testudo will shred an attacker. You might even win sometimes.

Please. You can win almost any defensive battle if you have at least 4 testudo-capable infantry.

Just block off the chokepoints to the central raised area, and keep your cavalry units hidden outside the city in wooded areas.

If the enemy leave any missile troops unprotected, snipe them with your cav, though watch out for their cav (not usually a problem, because the retarded AI likes to rush them against your testudo ASAP). If and when you win at one of the chokepoints, or they simply don't send men to attack one, send the men from that chokepoint, and any reserves you have inside the walls, to run around and hit the moshpitting retards at the other chokepoint(s) in the rear.

>>125381915
mate if they searched my browser history my faction leader would be married to a horse ;)

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>>125381867
At least we have woman mirite or mirite?

I'm playing as Visigoths, where should I make my capital?

I want to settle in Spain, but I don't know which City should be my grand capital.
For a while I thought about Carthago or Rome, but really I'm just not sure

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>>125382063

>>125381704

No I am on normal.

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>>125382130
I forgot my image of Alaric ):

>>125367948

2 in 10 men were camp followers, so a century was made of 100 men and 20 camp foloowers

>>125382821
now thats 120
unless you mean "100 men, 10 being camp followers"

>>125380225
Gallaecia has gold and highest fertility iirc (nw corner)

>>125383103
I'm pretty sure he said 20 camp followers

>>125383103
20*
fuckshitassniggercockmongreldogfuckers

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you can pull off some pure bullshit with this unit

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>>125377457

Fucking hell, I see how Sicily counts as #2. In addition to these stacks, they have another full one in the waters west of Sardinia. I only have two full combat stacks myself, only one of which is on Sardinia. The rest of my score comes from territory and shitty garrison armies.

>>125381926
That was sarcasm senpai. But yeah, this is all true and pretty easy to pull off. Only problem is that as the ERE you don't get guard posts so you'll have to make do with sparse troops when you don't have an army.

/twg/ bls halp

My cpu was overheating so I installed a liquid cooler and another system fan but now my computer shuts off about 10-30 seconds into the boot process and I think it's because my power supply has met it's match.

I haven't bought one in ages, idk what to go for.

Should I get a 500W? 600W? more?

I'm running a really old graphics card (like a GT 740 or some shit, like a 50 dollar card or something), an Fx-8350 amd cpu, 8 gigs of ram, and a 500gig standard harddrive with the liquid cooler and two other fans. I was going to upgrade the graphics card so I want wiggle room for that, but I want to know what to shoot for. I think the power supply I have is anywhere from 300-400 watts so that's probably the problem. Gonna suck if I install a new power supply and it still crashing during the boot, but gotta start somewhere.

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>>125383941

It begins, the largest naval battle I've ever fought in a Total War game. Neither me or my enemies have ever given a shit about it.

How severe is the seasickness debuff? I have a shitton of catapults, but far less actual combat troops than them.

>>125383904

Which faction/mod is that?

>>125382130

Carthago Nova or Tarraco. I went with Tarraco myself, a nice central location between Iberia, Gaul, and Italy, while still being in Iberia.

>>125384217
There's an easy solution to this problem, it's been addressed in this youtube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dbR2JZmlWo

>>125384418
Wiltz, but I'm pretty sure that the rest of the slavs have it too.

just look in workshop for slavic factions + theme of sicily should be one of the top rated ones

Has Radious updated for Age of Charlemagne?

what does it take for an ai to become your vassal in medieval 2? france only has 1 settlement left and they still wont accept

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>>125384418

Our fleet, as viewed from the enemy side. We've placed our catapult ships in the rear, with our marines in front to protect them.

>>125384581

Oh, cool that they've already got unlocker mods. Any for the Celts yet? I'm hankering to play a Welsh game.

And do the slav and sicily ones add any new units?

>>125384519
Ok anon thanks for the input really helped me diagnose my problem.

>>125383103

100 men and 20 were camp followers*

>>125384217
I'd go for 600W+ PSU, always future proof your hardware if possible so you can upgrade other shit later imo, make sure it's a decent one though, you don't want it dying after a couple of years.

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>>125385271

We only manage to sink a few of their ships before they reach our line, but I pity the poor Greeks on their doomed ships.

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>>125385271
Looked around just for (you)
Age of Britannia is the name
- Kingdom of Ailech

- Kingdom of Alt Clut

- Kingdom of Connachta

- Kingdom of Gwynedd

- Kingdom of Leinster

- Kingdom of Kent

- Kingdom of Munster

- Kingdom of Northumbria

- Kingdom of the Picts

- Kingdom of Powys

- Kingdom of Wessex

>>125385271
>bothering with anything besides ramming ships

>>125385294
faget

For real, though, it sounds like it's your PSU from the info you're providing us. Watercoolers take a fair share of Wattage. If you buy a good PSU you might not need to buy a new one for another seven years if it comes with a guarantee like mine did (Corsair).

In addition, I'm sorry for my rude response; I burnt my wrist over the teapot after pouring myself some forest fruit flavoured tea. I was feeling upset over the series of events that unfolded before me and my wrist is now red and stings a little.

>>125386032

Yo where did you get your tea?
I drink a shit load of tea and that sounds great

>>125386241
I bought it at the cornerstore.

>>125386575
Well. I'm gonna goggle this shit and find some

>>125385702

We win the battle, but it's too hectic to focus on getting any more good screencaps.

The Sicilian fucks and their 4 doomstacks just keep getting closer, however.

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>>125386656
It looks like this.

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>>125386746

Woohoo, river battle against the Lombards! Our first fight against them, too.

>>125377087
Kinda late but they get the best shock cav in the game I think,it's a hybrid unit with bows,however despite being the so called cav "masters" of the era,they get beat by everybody else's elite cav and your best anti cav option is tribesmen hybrid spear/bows. The noble swords are also the third best sword inf in the game though strangely,with only Mercia and The Danes having better infantry and asturias tied with em.

>>125386656
I dunno about that anons tea but If you're a bong and you have a Whittards wherever you live then dear god they do the greatest teas I've ever had.
>tfw I tried their mulled wine tea for the first time
Words are not enough.

AoC Kingdom of Kent mod when?

And speaking of the Kingdom of Kent, I'm playing as Mercia and they keep getting all pissy due to some arbitrary oppression stat showing up on my actions against them. How to I lower this? it's reaching the 100 area and is a bitch to keep down via bribes. I'm considering just conquering them and being done with it.

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>>125387003

Fuck, I'm really hating the lack of archers now. Fucking cunts took out an entire unit of ambushers with their bowmen before I could pull them back.

And after I send my cavalry across to try and take out the fuckers, I find out they have 10 fucking units of cavalry. They're even worse than the Moors!

>>125386962
Get some Strawberry and Vanilla Folly from London Fruit and Herb

Anyone else play these games because they don't want to live in this time period and want to live in the Classical/Medieval/Colonial era?

>>125388172
I live above the artic circle, you'd be more surprised by the things we do have instead of things we don't.

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Which TW lets me play as Romania and kill turks?

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>>125388028

Those fucking archers, CA please nerf.

>>125388285
Are you a 14 year that just found reddit?

>>125387972

I actually just saw the mod in >>125385784

Is there any way I can download this without using steam for my stolen version of the game? My legal version doesn't have AoC yet.

So whats the difference between the Huns and the White Huns, aside from initial starting difficulty?

>>125388397
Funnily enough, Thera.

Any Napoopan minimods that add a toggleable fire by rank or kneel fire? Radious's just makes it the default fire mode.

>>125388638
The fuck is Thera?

>>125388640
Hardcoded so sadly no.

>>125388715
Romans vs samurai vs knights vs pike&shot vs vikings vs turks vs romanians vs aztecs and so on. Medieval 2 mod.

>>125388881
So not on Steam Workshop? Fuck it.

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>>125388715
>What is Thera?

>>125389018
Wrong mod m8.

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>>125388412

So, it looked like we were right fucked for a while, but then we miraculously won a cavalry duel on the opposite side of the river, and got a few really good hits off with the onager.

We routed the men in melee, and our cav on the other side was able to come round and hit their fucking archers.

The day is ours, but at great cost. We're going to kill every last fucking archer we get our hands on.

>>125388565
What's the difference between any two factions?

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Is Charlie Mayne good? I fucking hated Rome 2 and didn't play Attila, but I really like the time period and I watched a trailer that suckered med into getting hype.

>>125389018
>retro trash

no thanks. Real games that allow me to kill turks?

>>125388565
They got some different units. White huns are geared up for killing sassanids.

>>125389474
yeah it's great. Attila in general is a massive improvement over R2

>>125389485
You mean babby games?

None.

>>125388436
No, just a sad shitposter.

>>125389485
Probably some mod that unlocks romania in Napoleon.

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"i got this."

>>125389474
shit units, recycled everything including voices shit map, everyone starts semi large, uninteresting quests, pointless war weariness gimmick. Everything else is more or less the same as attila. Even a modder can do better.

I honestly can't understand the praise.

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>>125389474
Battles are boring
Campaign is eh
It scratches an itch for M2 and carpetrider removal

>>125388285
I too, was born in le wrong generation.
*tips tricorne*

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>>125389628
do I need to start posting webm?

>>125389726
I am having a blast in multiplayer. Give me a small unit roster with many useful units over a big one with only a few useful units. Feels like shogun 2 though the battles are slower.

Has Attila's performance improved since release?
I remember it ran like shit on my pc compared to rome 2 so i stopped playing.

What should I play lads?

My Rome 2 save as Rome
My Atilla save as Sand Jews
My FotS save as Tsu
or start a new save?

>>125389934
pls no.

>Medieval 2
The game has flaws but it can be fun with mods and so on.
>Rome 2
The game has flaws but it can be fun with mods and so on.

Take it easy /twg/

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>>125389289

It was a horribly bloody battle. Virtually their entire force of 3k, and 2/3 of our force of 1800, died along the Aude river. Most of the kills on our side came from our artillery, the four pieces of which got 675 kills in total, and our cavalry, who got around 1200 total, one unit reaching over 400.

The overwhelming majority of their kills came from their archers, with one unit getting over 200 kills alone.

>>125389931
>not *vibrates petasos*

>>125390115
Republic of Tsuffering

>>125389972
It's literally one unit of each type which are permanently upgraded through tech

>>125390115
Start a new game in Poopan as Poopan and Poop on the Italians
Then after 150 turns play Empy as Turkey
Then after 10 turns (because I dont hate you), you can play M2 with any mod and learn what a good game is

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>>125390210

Those motherfuckers, two cavalry units got away.

It's personal now, I'm going to prosecute this war until Pavia burns.

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>>125390136
>mods fixes it

every time

>>125390270
>Republic

lel I tried that in my first FotS campaign as Josai

>my vassals, who I've had for like 120 turns, go against me
>everyone on both sides declares war on me
>I don't have any navy because I never needed one, they strangle all of my oversees trade
>go from like 5k incoming per turn to -300

>>125390370
Was considering playing Empire desu
I've played M2 to death though, there's literally nothing more I could get out of it. I played it like every weekend all the way through middle and high school with my best mate, doing vanilla campaigns or playing TATW

>>125390548
He never said M2 was perfection
Holy fuck you're an ass
Or are we falseflagging as anti-M2fags now to make them look bad just to start shit, /gsg/

>>125390329
That doesn't matter in multiplayer though. Give me a generic swordman units over a SONS OF (Insert famous city/country here) unit that is actually cost ineffective and just a waste of space.

>>125390548
More like a band-aid not an outright fix.

>>125390652
Looks like it.

>>125390652
We're just seeing the backlash against M2fags become as obnoxious as the M2fags, it goes in cycles.

>>125390115
Sand Jews

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>>125390635
>vanilla campaigns or playing TATW
now play M2 the way it was meant to be played
with Planetwar

What's the best overhaul mod for Rome 2?

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>>125389934
You can post them all you want. You still want the babby games.

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>>125390760
>i play TW for the multiplayer

The only TW worth playing online is Shogun 2.

>>125391370
>having ghosts in your army

Reported to Valve for VAC

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>>125391370

>>125368279
are elephants mammals?

>>125391417
I have played it a lot though. AoC feels kinda like a slower shogun 2 mp imo. The balance is pretty solid.

>>125391632
This is just for you, you fucking pisser.
>>125390548

They never fixed anything, which makes it even more horrible.

>>125391165
The uninstall mod

>>125391632
It baffles me that pikes are even "allowed" on the walls in total war games.

>>125391632
>pikes on wall

THIS IS TRIGGERING ME SO MUCH DELETE THIS

>>125367971
I'm...I-'m g...hn-BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

>>125392184
>not bopping your enemy on the head when he tries to scale the walls
>not making a honk sound as you do it

>>125392148
>>125392184
Oh, you think that's bad? The pikes actually worked great for the AI in that example. For some reason, they didn't count as being pointing everywhere but my units, meaning they lasted close to 6 minutes like that, while being buttfucked by 3 units.

AI is shit at coding and you'll always find examples of it being shit. Always.

The fag wants real games, well, let him play Empire and Napoleon. That almost has turks.

>>125392423
Wouldn't call Empire a "real" game imo. It's worse than rome 2 now.

>>125392423
Every single TW has shit gameplay mechanics when it comes to wall fighting on sieges. Funnily enough, I think Shogun 2 has the best mechanics out of the whole series.

Spiderman japs are a little strange though desu

>not using a modified pike with an extra point to fork a ladder and push it off the wall

>>125391662
>balance is pretty solid

It is decent but it still needs work, there's a few cases of units underperforming/overperforming for there price and one hand and two hand axes are lacking their vs. infantry bonus, not as notable on the two hander since they got the high attacks but 1 hand axes are useless like early attila again.

>>125392618
Attila and shogun 2 has the most enjoyable sieges imo.

>>125391417
>fancy giving shogun multiplayer another go
>first match
>blunderbuss cav
>alt-f4

>>125392656
Yeah it definitely needs some tweaks but it is pretty solid for being just released.

>>125391662
The only reason shogun 2 had multiplayer worth playing was its avatar campaign.

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>>125392148
Whu shouldn't it be?

>>125393173
Well it looks silly, it's obviously not going to fully work, it might be op and it probably isn't very historically accurate.

>>125393173
how do you get a pike on a wall
you cant carry it up the tower stairs

>>125393425
You can easily bring pikes up a wall, it won't be very practical due to the nature of close quarters fighting but there's no reason why a pike unit shouldn't be able to move up a wall.

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>>125390548
Do they at least work if you keep them still and let the enemy come to you? I was looking forward to hitting pike & shot age in my M2TW SS campaign.

>>125393767
No, they dont

>>125392942
Agreed, one of the better releases far as balance goes(and in the case of rome 2 and non kingdoms med 2, better than the finished product.

>>125393747
The pike unit should be able to go on the walls but they shouldn't be able to use their pikes in my opinion. I just find it weird that is was possible when other unit abilites got greyed out when the unit was on the walls.

>>125393601
Are you merely pretending, yiu hoist it up with a rope or something,it isn't hard to find away, although as already said it's use on a wall would be rather limited and specific.

>Get all the way down to 1 cross without being excommunicated.
>Alright I guess Rome is next.
>Take it easily, papal army nowhere nearby.
>Realize that I need to kill the pope or my ass is still excommunicated.
>Can't find the fucking Papal army any-fucking-where.
I even cheated and walked all around Europe and North Africa.
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?!

>>125393767
They might work if you remove their swords and/or give them custom animations IIRC.

>>125393601
Pikes in that age were usually in two or more pieces for ease of carry.

>>125394070
>>125394232
yes but in terms of R2 battles a pike unit on walls would have to toss away their pikes or take time to break them down in order to leave the walls

>>125394115
Probably hiding in the woods somewhere in Italy

>>125394340
Well a pike unit should drop its pikes too when flanked but it doesn't happen. I suppose it's an engine limitation.

>>125394115
just toggle fow and hunt his ass down

>>125394552
They do in Attila

Actually in attila if you get flanked the flanks will drop pikes and attack while the rest keep using pikes, which is pretty cool.

>>125394340
The same reason archers draw their arrows from mid air and units are stuck in rigid formations, gameplay limits and liberties with realism to make the gameplay less tedious.

>>125394115
Your faction will be reconciled if your faction leader dies.

>>125394659
They switch to their secondary, not drop it. You can give chase immediately and they'll magick their pikes out of nowhere.

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My Westphalia campaign is literally border-gore: the game.

>>125394993
looks like EU3

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>>125390514

While the war with the Lombards has turned into a Sitzkrieg, the war in Sardinia is only heating up.

We bypass their armies and head straight for Cagliari. They've depleted it of troops to go and hit Olbia in the north, so we only have to face the garrison.

Fuck, this game is beautiful sometimes.

>>125394747
He's 38 and so far from anywhere to die. Besides I want to immediately continue taking European lands and I'll be excommunicated right away.
>>125394360
>>125394641
Found him near Gibraltar.

M2 is the best TW
its the most recent TW that I can type ~ autowin attacker and keep painting the map

>>125395328
>average medieval 2 fan

>>125382063
>women soldiers
this triggers and arouses me anon.

Is the feminist dlc the only way to get them? Are they removed in DeI?

>>125395752
Are you really that desperate and pathetic?

>>125395328
The fun for me in M2 is seeing how fast I can take every province.
Gotta be North European if you wanna be fast. That way you can immediately recruit in most towns you conquer and move your army on leaving it empty before the end of the turn.

Southern European is suffering. Better armies but you have to drop off 3 or 4 units at each town.

>>125395889
Wrong. T*rks are objectively the best faction for blitz, you can easily conquer the whole map (americas not counted) in less than 20 turns.

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>>125367557
Has anyone posted this map from the humble bundle yet? If I'm understanding this right, the western badlands are going to be one province with 8 regions?

Here is the full resolution map for anyone that doesnt want to pay into humble jew


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>>125395889
>>125396151
You're both wrong
With England you can conquer everything important in less than 5 turns, because everything that isn't England isn't relevant

>>125396407
The map has been out way before humble bundle.

>>125396151
I refuse to believe that.
You can call a crusade on like turn 10 and have 2 full stacks (for free for a while) over in Jerusalem/Antioch ready to fuck their shit so you have 2 bases of operations.
I don't think there's a Jihad that'll get you to London or Paris for example.

>>125389474
WINTER SALE BEGINS ON 22ND.

ATTILA AND MOST DLC WILL BE 66-75% OFF. CHARLEMAGNE WILL BE 10% off.

Basically the full game and its DLC so far at around £30 if you're English.

>>125396587
I thought the only map that was out before the humble bundle was from the stream and not the high res version?

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>>125395819
Nope but the idea of an all female army being raped to death by a male army reeks of fun.
>>125396407
Yes in the last 3 threads anon also someone fucked up with with western badlands part of it is the southern badlands.
>>125396587
Humble bundle says "exclusive map"

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>>125396798
You better believe it

>>125397075
How the hell do you even get from Iconium to Inverness in 10 turns?
My best is around 50 turns as France...
I see some empty towns. I guess I need to up my blitz game and start exterminating. But my other favorite thing is preparing for Mongols and I need Large Cities and Citadels so I can have balista towers.

>>125396865
>22nd

So soon? Thanks for the heads up pater familias.

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>>125397075
>playing vanilla M2
>mfw

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>>125397751
>the nostalgia fags are turning on each other

>>125397723
Yep and no problem.

22nd to the 1st. I have my wishlist ready.

Remember steam changed sales so theres no more dailies and votes its a price that stays the same all through the sale. I found games that were the cheapest I've ever seen them. You have to actually search now.

Some games are delayed though for example Watchdogs remained full price until the final day of the sale after Steam finally realised it never got a price cut. Some games have even had a permanent price cut since. So the sale price will be even cheaper.

>>125368820
>upgrade civic as WRE
>lose classical technologies all the while getting access to new churches even though you already tore down all your churches
=^)

>>125398051
I'm not a Nostalgia fag.

The only way to play M2 as it was meant to be is with SS 6.4. For the wannabe Crusaders/Jihadists out there with Broken Crescent instead.

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>>125390329

Except it isn't. Final-tier Asturias has:

-Generic shit-tier spearmen
-Mildly better spearmen (fuck if I even know what tribesmen are for)
-Ambush-capable spearmen with better melee stats and the same ranged damage and ammo of skirmishers; only downside is no spearwall
-Unarmored swordsmen
-Armored swordsmen
-Unarmored sword cav
-Armored sword cav
-Skirmisher sword cav
-Skirmishers
-Heavily armored skirmishers with somewhat passable melee stats, and higher ranged damage than any other skirmisher

You have several options to pick from between melee infantry, ranged infantry, and cav.

>>125395182

'nother pic

>>125375830
Roll for not lombards I got fucked in my campaign fuck vassals

Fuck it takes so long to conquer 90 settlements, jesus.

>>125398546
Yes?

>>125398324
basically
>1x light infantry
>1x heavy infantry
>1x levy spears
>1x spearmen
>1x heavy cav
>1x light cav
>1x skirmisher
>1x skirmisher cav

so one of each type?

>>125375830
Wait, is Saxony unironically unplayable in a Charlemagne game? Weren't the Saxons one of his major adversaries? Shed the blood of Saxon men and all that. Or is my history just poor and Westphalia is the proper way to talk about the particular Saxons ha was messing with?

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>>125395182
>>125398324
You don't honestly think that piss filter looks good right? I mean Attila can look good but that is just..

>>125398213
I just feel like when I beat vanilla it's the way it was supposed to be played. When I have mods installed it's like, "Eh, this is just some ass's idea of what would be neat."

Attila sucks without any decent mods

These mother fucking Jutes came out of nowhere and took over territory in Spain that I wanted. They literally hopped around all of fucking Europe just to take this piece of territory in Spain. Then they try to be friends with me, acting like they didn't just take territory that my army was prepared to take from the Western Roman Empire. I fucking hate Jutes.

>>125399018

Widukind is the faction leader of Westphalia if that answers your question

the best thing charlie main brought was no sanitation penalties for farms and fishing ports

shit totally killed province specialization in the main campaign

>>125400623
>I am too retarded to do simple math
>I want my buildings to be mindless straight upgrades so I don't have to put any thought in city planning

>>125398213
>Broken Crescent instead
Broken Crescent retains a lot of the shitty pathfinding though they at least kept the pike 'fix'.

>>125401268
>i want to make the same province 4000 times to placate my autism

When can we hope for a quick patch to any bugs Charlemagne has?

Any specific ones you all think need to be fixed?

>>125402535
The bug where Theme of Sicily and Venice aren't full featured factions

>>125402535
you can make the first level coin mint in any type of province

>>125402535
Generals do not die, even if their entire unit is destroyed.

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>>125400071
Around Jutes, never relax.

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>mfw total wart fucks will never EVER get another medieval game

>>125402949
I have just realized that the Dark Cult description is basically a Wiccan chant. Stop being Wiccan, anon.

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>tfw you will never make an anime about Antiochus III running late to the battle of Magnesia with floppy bread in his mouth

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Damn Skutatoi look nice

Were Roman troops still called legionaries at this point, or whatever the Greek equivalent was?

I'm on round 130 or so and playing Saxons I still have no halfway decent cavalry in a game where skirmishers cause absolute havoc. It takes an immense ammount of research, money and progress to be able to have the level 3 barracks for saxons, which apparently unlock proper cavalry, but untill then your best fast unit is skirmisher cav which will get destroyed by any infantry or melee cavalry in seconds, and has no armor to withstand skirmisher/archer fire at all.

I could've probably prioritized things better, but seriously this is kind of bullshit. I've now taken over most of Germany and my cavalry is still utter shit.

>>125403774
combat skirms with sax hurlers

>>125403774
I had the same experience as Mercia although to be honest these factions are indeed infantry-heavy. Just thank God(s) you aren't the Danes.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

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>win difficult battle, ~2400 vs. ~9000
>take in warriors that are willing to fight
>enemy stacks not engaged move elsewhere
>ATTILA.exe has stopped working
>mfw

>>125403468
Probably not seeing as how the Legion system vanished during the Arab wars. I think they went back to the Greek tradition of calling the soldier by the equipment/weaponry he carried (Skoutatoi carried a skouton shield).

>>125404636
>he hasn't made it a habit to ctrl-s after every major battle

>>125404862
>using pronouns in le maymay arrows when refering to other poster
ISHYGDDT

>>125372795
>>125372990
are these mods?

>>125405152
>hasn't made it a habit to ctrl-s after every major battle
Now it just sounds silly

This thread is so fucking dead it's deader than the hopes and dreams of democracy which is to say its slightly alive but really its going to have to turn into something else to survive like grand strategy
Who else has preordered Stellaris and Hearts of Iron 4? I'm not from Paradox Interactive, the leading company in grand strategy gaming, but they look really good.

>>125406734
Say hello to Wiz for me, Johan.

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>>125406580
It's about how you formulate the sentence.

>>125406734
I got Fallout 4 and the season pass instead.

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>grandson of Attila comes of age
>regency ends
>check traits

Oh boy.

>>125374457
Supposedly CA said they had no intention of doing a "Third" of anything, but I've seen no source to confirm this

>>125407124
He's perfect.

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t b h l a d s i think they did a little overkill

>>125407124
This is why you never let regents touch the heir

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>>125407459
>danes

>>125407202
Maybe it'll just be called 'Total War Genghis' or something and they said that to obfuscate.

>>125407635
If that keeps up they're going to have to start importing arabs to their country in the future

>>125407996
That would be too similar to Total War: Attila, especially with Mongols and Huns. Needs a different name for Medieval 3.

>>125408161
>That would be too similar to Total War: Attila
I was thinking at first that that's all the more reason to call it Genghis. Thinking about it now I'm not sure because I don't really know how the rest of the community feels about Attila itself. It makes sense though following on from it though.

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>My Visigoths finally find their home in the Iberian Peninsula

>After Alaric founds our capital we are beset by an elite army of Romans (20 stack)

>None of the subjects in Iberia share our old barbarous religion and the troops pledge themselves to the one true God of Latin Christianity to aid us in the coming battle

>The Roman troops besiege our city, King Alaric bravely leads the army out of the gates to attack them head on

>In the heat of fighting King Alaric the Great perishes in a heroic charge

>At least we know he'll go to heaven

>Empowered by Christ and determined to revenge their fallen King the men fight on and all the Romans are slaughtered

>Alaric's only son and heir, who also happens to be a bastard, is merely 15 years old and cannot yet ascend to the throne, his mother and Alaric's widow takes over

>Since a woman and a bastard child are in charge of the kingdom Alaric's brother (also a bastard) wavers and shows sings of disloyalty

>Alaric's widows is now by far the most influential, so she attempts to set him straight and remind him of Alaric's sacrifice to secure his loyalty once more

>Apparently it didn't work so the call is made to castrate him, in one swoop securing his loyalty and ending his bloodline before he can take a wife and sire children that are not bastards

>The castration is unsuccessful, the plot is revealed and as a key conspirator Alaric's widow is assassinated, the kingdom is now led by the dead king's sister

>Our populous is deeply disturbed by the horrors of war, a dirty city with bad sanitation, famine and religious strife, public order is at an all time low

>Everyone gets tax breaks to calm them down

>>125408328
Good game, shit time period. Horsefuckers aren't an entertaining gameplay element.

>>125408489
>Converting to Latin Christianity
>Not converting to Arian Christianity, the only Christianity that makes sense.

The Son cannot be equal to the Father. The Son would have to be the Father's brother to be equal.

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>>125408489
>Vast rebuilding projects, repairs on everything that got damaged during the initial conquest of the city and it's subsequent defense and the upkeep of two fully staffed and highly trained Gothic armies combined with the fact nobody is paying taxes lead to a balance deeply in the red

>Since we don't have access to a port we can't engage in trade of any kind

>The tens of thousands of talents and gold Alaric and his men captured during their long and successful travels from Greece to Spain are quickly squandered

>After the battle and it's general's death the men are too weak to take the nearest port city since it's under the control of a group of Roman separatists

>I haven't talked to my best friend in months nor responded to his texts because he got his shit together while I don't know what to do with my life and I can't bring myself to telling him I play Total War all day

>The second Visigothic horde, which makes it's way to the chosen land from Africa instead of from Germania, barely escapes hostile Hispanic natives

>After they finally arrive, lead by our brave general Atlauf who has been with us since the very beginning and has lead his troops to glory and riches and even sacked Rome itself

>As Alaric's brother he should probably have become High King instead of Alaric's bastard, but he's 48 and has no children and it's too late now anyways, nobody expected Alaric to die this suddenly

>With his help we conquer the port and even manage to capture the last remaining city in our province

>We engage in trade, the presence of two armies calms the peasants, Alaric's bastard is 18 and becomes King, half the people pledge themselves to the true faith, things are looking up

>One army is sent South to conquer another province and get access to the iron mines which we will use to outfit more armies

>>125407202

They said so awhile back but they also said Huns wouldn't be playable in Attila. And like the anon said >>125407996

Total War: Knights. Total War: Feudal. Total War: Kings. Chivalry total war (like that R1 era mod).

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>>125408618
>shit time period
Well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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>>125408636
No heretics allowed

>>125408651
>Then Rome convinces two smaller kingdoms under it's control to join them in their fight against us, we are now their only enemy and their fleets immediately embark to meet us

>The South isn't too happy about being liberated, multiple rebellions are the result

>Gold mines are lucrative but make the people mad

>A Roman army in bad shape starts raiding the hillcountry around our capital back up North

>We chase them but the general is inexperienced and the Romans evade our troops in the thickly forested hill terrain

>To prevent a rebellion in the North and a Roman army in one of our cities we haste back the way we came instead of following them through the forest

>The Roman army encamps in front of our capital to replenish troops

>Their fortifications are too strong, we can't fight them head on

>Every month they grow larger in number

>Turns out I'm fucking terrible at video games

>>125408752
>fucking muslims and sand niggers

fuck off

id rather a south american total war

>>125408827
Modern day South America Total War, controlling cartels and government forces.

Boom.

>>125408801
If you convert to Arianism, you can use the tax bonus edict and get more money to help you fight the Romans.