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Voltaire edition


>FAQs & General Info (Updated November 8th, 2015)
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
http://pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if

>/twg/ steam groups (MP battles on weekend, co-op anytime)
http://steamcommunity.com/group/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Attila
TWC Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2105-Total-War-Attila-Modifications
Age of Charlemagne DLC -- https://youtu.be/RNOy63UZXvM

>Warhammer
Campaign Gameplay Walkthrough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJUWImJUZrU

Previous thread >>125121398
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First for Voltaire was a kek to be honest
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>>125224520
mad german detected
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>>125224520
t. otto the "great"
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>>125224574
frogposter detected
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>>125224520
Voltaire was 18th century's Bernard Henry Levy, fucking scum "philosopher"
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bert
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>muh artifical mass
>anime can fuck off
>webms of med 2
>pike and shot when
>3 kingdoms when
>DLC should be free
>being poor
>remove kebab
>tfw EB2
>warhammer lorefags >>>/tg/
>history autists >>>/his/

here, no need for another thread
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>>125225039
ty senpai
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>>125225039
Last warning.
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>>125225039

post meme
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>>125225106
thats old meme, that is long forgotten. I havent seen it here for months
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>>125225106
last warning bud
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>tfw umads don't look like this

lost potential desu senpai
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>>125225039
you forgot the greek butthurt because muh germanic conspiracy
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>>125225127
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>>125225039
>tfw I invented half those memes
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I need your help /twg/
Macedon or Baktria?
I'm running DEI
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>>125225304
Macedon, go to west
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>>125225127
are you?
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How am i supposed to control 2 sides of the map at the same time as the Alans?
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>>125225489
the game is turn based and you can establish tributaries
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>>125225127
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>>125225127
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>>125225604
That actually makes sense, they're telling you not to attack them, or they'll destroy you. It's a threat.

I hate it when people take the perfect pre-Warscape games and try to pretend they have problems, fucking Shills.
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>>125225778
just leave them, they propably dont know how to party too
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>>125225778
>perfect pre-Warscape games
hihi
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>>125225839
prove me wrong fucktard.

>muh cherrypicked webms.

no actually fuck off.
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So I completed my frankish campaign

What other faction is worth playing?
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>>125225998
All AoC factions are pretty fun.
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>>125225998
Avars are pretty nice even though they´re just another horse fucker faction
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>465AD

D-did I do good, /twg/? The plan was to destroy the world as the Huns.
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How limited is magic use going to be?

Because so far it looks like spells kill everything they hit. Do they just have a cool down? Or you can only cast them 1-2 times per battle?
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>>125225304
baktria
go west
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>>125226468

There's a campaign map resource called winds of magic and it depends on the location you're fighting in
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>>125226468
Depending on the abundance of magic in the area you're fighting in, you will have a limited amount of "charges" on the spells you can use during the battle.
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>>125226468
at the start of the battle you have some sort of bar or charges or whatever, the number of charges depends on the area you are fighting in, and I bet you will be able to upgrade your mage to have more starting charges or whatever

make a fireball cots two charges, having the sun fall down costs five
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>>125226398
>destroy the world
but you haven't even sacked rome anon
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>>125225489
Just go to Spain and then send an army East again much later.

Splitting your forces is stupid
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Fighting in mountains with cav only army vs Armenian Spears sure is FUN
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>>125227365
I'm working my way west, although it's taking a little long.
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Man, why cant we resurrect the conquered factions in AoC.
I wanted to destroy Umbria and leave Scotland for the Picts.
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/gsg/ here, I have only played total war a tiny bit, i can only remember playing Attila after it came out for a day or 2 and i had some fun
Is the humble bundle worth it, and what tier has the best game or is that Attila? Also is Rome actually shit or is it just a meme?
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Is anyone else really tired of the animations in Rome II/Attila? Charlemagne might be a new setting, but the old animations make it feel a little bit boring.
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>>125228579
Rome II is good
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attila is garbage
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>>125228579
I don't like Rome 2
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>>125228579
dont buy CA games
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>>125228579
Rome 2 with DEI mod > Attila
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>>125228791
This is meme
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>>125228895
You're right

Rome 2 with DEI > a pile of human shit > Attila
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>>125228764
So how many CA videos have you downvoted today? :^)
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>>125228963
>DEI defense force

last warning bud
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>>125228579
Rome II is good if you like the time frame it covers. With mods it gets much better. I still like Attila more because it has more depth compared to Rome II, which is something you might want if you are from gsg.
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>>125229003
was there any new today?
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>>125229113
Well you can make a new gmail account and downvote all existing videos again.
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How are /twg/s diplomatic relations with /gsg/ and /mbg/?
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>>125229245
cold war
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>>125229245
accept or we will attack
please do no attack
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I have an extremely small penis. Which TW game should I play
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>>125229631
Medieval 2
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Just ended the war with franks. I feel the map is small but then didint bother to go England. Prob gonna try the muslims next. Also the unit roster is kinda small. And the only real threath on the map is Charlemagne.
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Only three more years until Total War: Three Kingdoms
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>>125230738
anime can fuck off
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>>125228963
M8 pls
I love dei but attila is better and just going to keep on getting better as time goes on when people make even better mods for it
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>>125225604
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>play Rome 2 with DEI
>it's still shit

Did I get memed?
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>>125230925
Nah you just got bad taste
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>>125231071
>if you can't eat shit without violently vomiting you have bad taste!
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>>125230925
tell me a better mod for Rome II
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>>125231253
The uninstall mod
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>125231391
When will tombkeks learn?
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>>125231391
why would they announce tomb kings? they are not as popular than elves, lizardmen or skaven. And they already have undead faction. Tomb kings are gonne be one of the last factions to get announced. deal with it.
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>>125231391

Who cares? We get the superior undead.
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>>125230917
But it's the other way around.
People want more content, but dont want more DLCs.
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>>125225127
haha
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So when am I supposed to get the next mission as the Danes? It's been many turns since the "sack 5 settlements" one.
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>>125225127
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Shogun and Medieval 1 worth playing nowadays?
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please explain to me how attila has more """"""depth"""""" than Rome 2 with DEI

you mean clicking Secure Loyalty every 5 turns?
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>>125233504
DEI is garbage

just drop it already, nobody is going to download your shitty mod
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>>125233558
>the most popular mod for the best selling Total War of all time

yes you're right no one is going to download this mod
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>>125233629
>most popular mod for the best selling Total War
But that would be Radious
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>>125233415
no
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>>125233629
>it's popular that means it's good
>DEI is the most popular Rome 2 mod

o i am laffin
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>>125224520
there is literally nothing wrong with being a kek, stop this meme
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haha, I saw that movie too!
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I love Vampire Counts and they are one of the most popular armies.

But literally nobody gives a fuck about their named heroes. Mannfred, Kemmler or Krell are all shit pretty much nobody use. Everybody builds their own vampire lords.

Being forced to play as Mannfred is really annoying. He's a boring fag.

If we won't be able to build our own vampire lords and pick their powers there is pretty much no point in VC's in this game.
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>>125235970

What movie is that
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>>125235970

Most kids probably won't even recognize it.
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>>125236149
Problem Child 2
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>>125235970
They have a Gurren Lagann reference too. There is probably also a monty python reference in there too somewhere.
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Just finished the Emirate of Cordoba campaign and became a caliphate. Charlemagne got btfo'd
I'll post an update once i reach the next campaign victory(Imp 7)
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>>125233629
>muh historically accurate unit names
>"the bestest" meme mod
>3 units of javelinmen cant kill one guy . webm
The fact that it's popular just proves the fact Total War is played mostly by autists.
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>Pepin the short
>Charlemagne is famous for being tall

Pepin was not Charlemagne's dad.
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>>125236456
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>>125236535
>often known under the mistranslation Pippin the Short
are you actually retarded?
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>>125236575
Anime haters BTFOed and on suicide watch.
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>>125228579
I got it yesterday, very happy with it. $15 for all that shit is a stupidly good deal and if you have even the slightest interest is worth it.
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>>125236456
More than likely muh flesh wound
I'll have to poke around see if I can find it
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>>125236535
He is Pipin the younger in my language.
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>>125236535
>Pepin the short
His name was Pepin le Bref, which is the Pepin the Younger. It has been mistranslated as the short however.
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just found out kingdom of asturias has no archer fuck this
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Question for /twg/

Would you ever charge a spear unit in loose formation with cavalry?
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>>125236532
>3 units of javelinmen cant kill one guy . webm

Pretty sure that one guy is from a hero mod with OP stats. Also javelins have been tweaked a lot since that webm.
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>tfw EB2
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>>125233504
DEI looks like a baby version of Europa Barbarorum desu

Never even bothered to download it
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Maybe it's ___________
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>>125236535
Names like that have often been mistranslated or misinterpreted. Charles the Bald was not bald, Charles the Fat was likely not fat.
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>>125236884
Literally all their units have javelins, stop being a faggot
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>>125237089
Maybeline

regards consumer of shit
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I regret ever setting foot on this damned island.
It's been a three-way battle for many years now.
But I've been slowly gaining ground.
Wodan is my witness, I shall burn down every last monastery in this land and slay every last believer in this so called "Christ".
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>>125236679
When hunnic spy hurts himself on mission he says "it's just a flesh wound" before disappearing for a few turns.
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>>125237093
Names like that have always been 100% enemy propaganda.
One of the good examples being the "Napoleon was short" meme.
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>>125237376
In AoC if you play as Lombards the Assassin sometimes says "I will do anything for you, big guy" if you tell him to assassinate someone
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>>125237376
Nah I'm pretty sure I saw a skill that had something like that
Also Starship Troopers
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>>125237298
tfw Christ eventually conquered Denmark

Soon Islam will conquer Denmark

tfw
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>>125237481
With Charles the Bald it wasn't propaganda and just friendly banter, iirc.

Basically the only Carolingian/Frankish name that was somewhat accurate was Louis the Stammerer.
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>>125237541
I don't get the reference.
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Found this on /v/
Is this an Ink Spots reference?
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>>125237541
Does he start the fire?
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>>125237579
That looks more like a flash gordon reference.
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>>125237580
I'm so pissed at the fact, that 90% of the map are Christfags, so Danes, Westfalia and Emirate have the added difficulty of region conversion and diplomatic penalties.
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>>125237758
DANGER DANGER
HIGH VOLTAGE
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>>125237871
That's what you get for believing in the wrong god lol
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>>125236920
Yes. Loose formation decreases unit mass.
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>>125237871
Would you rather have Slavic tribes included or what? Scandinavia, parts of Germany and the Slavs were pretty much the only pagans left at the time.
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>>125237958
>unit mass
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>>125237871
Well going against history should be a little difficulty to be honest.
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>>125238061
Did I just get meme'd?
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>>125237758
No, it's an Electric Six reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4gyJsY0mc
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Have we figured out how traits work in Attila? Obviously they have hteir triggers, but how exactly to get good traits like "Good fighter" or "Siege expert"?
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>>125237298
>>125237580
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>>125238302
not being a stupid weeb helps
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So if this was Civilization, would you put Charlemagne among the French or German leaders?
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>>125238682
neither
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>>125238302
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>>125238682
I'd but him with the ROMAN leaders
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>>125238682

>A German who had his kingdom in France and pretended to be Roman
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>>125238682
Charlemagne as French and Caesar as Italian :-)
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CONSTANTINOPLE SHALL HOLD
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>>125238601
>>125238724
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>>125238682
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>>125238931
Have fun reclaiming Syria
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>>125225280
>byzantines
>infantry

Post screens of those sexy cataphracts senpai

>You will never ride onto the field in a huge, deep formation of heavily armored mounted legionaries and attempt to establish the glory of civilization on horseback against the growing eastern threats
>you will never make your roman ancestors proud by doing the most high tech and disciplined hammer and anvil tactics in the world and returning roman discipline to the battlefield

Why live?
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>>125238682
http://civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Charlemagne_%28Civ4%29
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>>125237579
>>125237815
https://youtu.be/SBe1hwg7V-M
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>>125239048
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>>125203012

Muh autism keeps me from wanting to play until units look neon-y so I've plenty of time to work on them. I'll probably go Umayyads > Asturia > then either south to north so Longbeards and the Romans (real brief since they are unplayable) then Avars then Charlemagne and so on, or skip to Charlemagne.

Probably release updates of it periodically, so once I have the Umayyads and Asturia done, then an update when I have the Italians and Avars done. And it will still as noted before be a mostly reskin with minimal changes and none of which should deal with stats or combat (for instance I may need to have a land_units entry for Umayyad archers and armored archers - not to change their stats but because CA gave them simple bows when they should have reflex bows. However I have to change the animation entry in land_units to switch them over).
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>>125239534
JEWTS
E
W
T
S
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>>125239534
rolling best empire
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>>125239383
>hurts Japan more than the west
>"this is an attack on the west"
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>>125239604
>>125239663
Why are you rolling if you alreeady know what you wanna play?
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>>125239604
>>125239663
why do you roll if you know who you want to play to be honest
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>>125239737
>>125239745
Because ROLLS FOR THE ROLLS GOT
GETS FOR THE GET THRONE
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>>125239704
rollan
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>>125239598
Thiers a mod that makes sicily playable already. Would be based to have abot more units for the byzantines.
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http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/First_Day_of_Festag

Shits happening /twg/.
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>>125239745
>>125239737
because I mostly only play a small amount of factions and never really change it up, it's a good chance to change
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Gee, I sure am looking forwards to playing as the Mongols in Medieval 3: Total war with updated horde mechanics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-dqcPZBULw
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>>125240112
perfect
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>>125239534
Rolling for freedom.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQrKZcYtqg
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>>125240276
Fug don't have celt culture pack
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>>125240481
you need to buy it now then. Bad luck
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>>125239881
Why does that blood in the third pic look like cranberry juice?
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>>125239881
>RINGED by enemies
>Empire is going to be fighting nonchaos humans
fuggg :-DDDD
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>>125239857

I'd want to keep the reskin mod as light as possible but I will look into what units could be added/what their skins would look like.

>>125240610

Maybe vampires like cranberry juice.
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>>125240481
JUST
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What bonus does Islam give?
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>>125240610
Anti-clotting agent makes it more transparent and liquid. Don't want to be choking on bits of bloodclot when you're hosting a vampire orgy party.
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>>125240851
you get searched at the airport more often
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Have I made you proud /twg/?

>>125240851
Religions don't have bonuses in AoC, so nothing really.
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>>125240867
How do you know this, Anon?
Are you a vampire?
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>>125240851
You get to claim you made a digital clock with nothing but a suitcase and a digital clock
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So when are we getting that vampires video?
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>>125241468

They are probably saving it for later, they need material to keep people interested for the next 4 months
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>>125240565
Had to reroll twice out of celts. Fuck that noise. Playing franks now.
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>>125241096
Now you just need to figure out how to change your capital to roma through save game editing
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FUCK ITS THE REFUGEES
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>>125241191
no no, I am just a regular functioning human cattle person with lots of fully functioning organs full of rich and refreshing blood. I don't even know any Vampires, although I imagine they're quite cool guys.

I wear a suit and tie like all fresh humans, do you see any capes? I don't think so.
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>outnumbered 3-1, defeat Sassanid army
>their entire military is crushed leaving their last settlement wide open for the taking
>pyrrhic victory
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I really hope we'll be able to make blenderlords. It's not a VC army without blenderlords.
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>>125241582
>bright purple UI
that looks disgusting. Also, you're fucked, how did you lose all your territory?
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How do I play as Charlemagne? It takes me forever to get an army to fight the Saxons and by then they've already occupied almost half my kingdom. I gave up and played a Westphalia campaign and the AI forms the Kingdom of the Franks on turn 2 and meets me with two full stacks by turn 4. What are they doing that I'm not?
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>>125241582
>losing egypt as ere
>playing radious
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>>125239534
Rollin'
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>>125241863
I'm goodish now I think, attacking Europe made the Sassanids and their puppet states make peace.
I have fleets right on them.
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>>125241889
Make peace with the Saxons
Fuck up your brother
Fuck up the Saxons
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>>125241863
That purple shitty ass ui is the ui radious uses
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>>125239534
Rolling for new playthrough
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>>125241997
How do I make peace with them though? They won't accept peace until after I've beaten them. And by the time I can muster up a stack to meet them half my kingdom is occupied by them or by rebels.
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>got a young, beautiful and clever(+2 cunning) daughter
>noone wants to marry her
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>>125242278
First turn I usually buy some mercenaries, let them attack my cities with their one stack and after defeated them they usually accept peace.
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>>125236920
I charge them in close formation.
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>>125239534
roll me
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>>125240249
>not excited about Temujin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmo3fKeveo
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hey m8
r8 my fledgling caliph8
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>>125226468

>Because so far it looks like spells kill everything they hit.

That's only the really big super expensive spells that only fully leveled casters can cast.

Take a look at the spell progression for Azhag, you can see every spell in the Lore of Death, most of them are buffs and debuffs.

Some lores, like the Lore of Metal, are even more focused on buffs and debuffs.

The big area kill spells probably also use more of whatever resource casters use to cast.
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>>125242774

I doubt it happens but do the abbasids ever threaten you from africa?
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>>125242774
Saved from Abbasids but no sicily/10
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I wonder if Sassanids will have the masks Ammianus Marcellinus mentioned in the next FOTE update
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>>125243094

Well, in tabletop most lores have a big AoE nuke that can slaughter armies.
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>>125243220
idk
you get an event early in the game that they are threatening your shores and demand a tax

you have a four options to pick from and i chose to send diplomats which apparently worked

dont know what happens if you refuse them or do nothing
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>>125225604
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>>125243232
workin in on it

the Sicilians were a bitch to get off corsica and wore weariness made me sue for peace
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>>125243391

Well yeah, but unlike in the Tabletop it seems like casters have to level through their progression tree to get the really good spells.

And if the spells use any kind of resource to be cast then the biggest spells will certainly cost the most.

And some lore, like the Lore of Light or the Lore of Beasts, don't have an AoE nuke as their best spell or any AoE nuke at all.
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>>125243391
And they're usually a waste of power dice that would be much better spent on large scale unit buffs.
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>>125242774
Go around and invade England ;)
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>>125243379

>You will never invade Japan with your horde
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>>125239704
for when I get home
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>>125239704
no moslem
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>>125244320
There will be no Moslem when you are done
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>>125239704
roll
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>>125244707
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>>125243445

Sounds like they could, neat.

>>125243379

Sassanids are postponed until I get celts and nords done. Will tackle white huns in the process when I get to sassanids. It's not from lack of interest as working on the Sassies will be more fun than the Celts or Nords, but I figure with AOC I might as well get it out of the way.

But yeah back in croc I adjusted the greek masks to fit some helmets, and this time around I'd do something similar - use the R2 greek mask, the R2 Eastern mask, and the Himyarite masks.
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I SHED THE BLOOD OF THE SLAVIC MEN
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>>125243748

Tell that to Purple Sun and Dwellers.
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>>125242492
Thats camels mang

theyre extremely overpowered
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>>125245316

He did say "Usually" not "Always"
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>watch legend play caliphate
>gets butthurt over ISIS comments
>shariah law promoted and upboated in comments

kill me
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>>125245718
>>watch legend of autism play

"no"
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>>125245718
link the video?
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>>125245718
>watching legend
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>>125245316
>dwellers and purple sun
No, not that they're bad spells, the lore of life was just so ridiculously overpowered that dwellers is mediocre compared to its other shit, and the lore of death was so mediocre that purple sun couldn't make up the difference, it was also a miscast magnet with that power cost.
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>>125245718
>caring about youtube comments
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>>125245887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlZhb0xm0w0
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>>125245718
I noticed he got butthurt about some atheist who started to shit on both muslims and christians.
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>>125246205
"The answer to ISIS is not to hate on Muslims, it's to look after them in a way."

-Legend
14 and a half minutes in
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>>125246396

>"The answer to ISIS is not to hate on Muslims, it's to look after them in a way."

What the fuck does that even mean?
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>>125246396
>coddle them or else they will kill you

wew lad, I thought liberals were totally insane. At least they can recognize they are dangerous.
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>>125246205

LegendofTotalWar 1 day ago
My channel is not a hub for people to express their opinions on everything. You are entitled to your opinions, but freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to barge into someone else's house and spout your opinions. Remember this is my house. I can control what is said. I can delete any and all comments I want. I'm not saying that you can't make jokes or insults against muslims or islam, or religion in general, or even me, but you cannot do it here.
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>>125246467
He proposes to take stock of the Muslim population in the Western world and to construct rehabilitation camps in which they can be controlled and looked after.
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How are the Guv's reskin mods for AoC?
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>watching 300: RoaE
>trireme ramming porn
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When should we expect the next Warhammer stream?
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>>125246467
He means to stop treating every Muslim like they're about to blow up a hospital, so they don't feel like outsiders and start to associate themselves with extremist ideologies like the one ISIS has.

And he's also right, we should do it with anyone on the extremist side, including pasty white 4channers who want to shoot up schools.

Everybody wants to feel like they belong, and by taking that away from them, they'll start looking for it in harmful and dangerous places.
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>>125247041
Thanks Legend of Autism, you sure opened my eyes :-)

>Everybody wants to feel like they belong
But they don't
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>>125247212
We're social creatures by nature, things go a bit crazy if we're cut off from it.
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>>125247303
are you smoking crack

you are making it sound like muslims have to live in total isolation from other human beings
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>>125247473
I think it is you who is the one smoking the crack here, he was saying the opposite of that
t. not that guy
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>>125247212
It's called identity, and it's important to every person in the world.
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TW warhammer won't have the horrendous army system like Rome and Atilla....right guys?
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>>125247473
I'm saying the opposite, I'm saying that if you treat every muslim like a terrrorist, they're going to start seeping away from western values and join extremist groups since they'll start to feel like they don't belong. It's the same with every other extremist ideology left or right.
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>>125247578
>t.

le kaycee mene
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>>125247784

It's probably going to work very differently than any previous game.
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>>125247041

Muslims already have a place where they belong, their self-created ghettos where they all live and refuse to speak the language of the country they're actually living in. They flock together because they aren't actually interested in assimilating into the larger society and then we have to drag them kicking and screaming out of it. THEY are the ones that reject the Western countries that they have chosen to relocate to. THEY are the ones that, by a significant majority, refuse to accept fundamental western values such as "People have the right to say things that I don't like". MUSLIMS ARE THE ONES BEING ANTI-SOCIAL. I refuse to take any shit simply because I respond to their hostility with hostility of my own.
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>>125247832
The problem with Islam is that it's not only a religion, it's a complete way of life with morals, laws, how to act, how to eat, pray and sleep and also a worldview.

Western values and Islam do not work together
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can we fucking not, guys
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>>125248095
I can't allow these infidels to insult Allah!
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>>125247881
its not a KC meme you dip its a ylilauta meme
jfc lern your memes kiddo
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Do we have actual muslims in the thread


I want to ask him if having different wives is common so I can convert
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haha I hope they are not planning anything

that non-aggression pact we got going sure is nice, right guys?
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>>125248417
Just become a mormon
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Are the Norse factions any fun? Kinda want to play the Danes, settle in Spain, and sack every coastal town in the Mediterranean.
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>>125248024
They do work together, but it requires a reshaping of the tenets, for Christianity it happened a long while back, but because of a number of factors it's largely either stayed the same or regressed for Islam barring a number of cases.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's incompatible, but I would say that it does require wiggle room to fit properly, something that will only happen with integration between Western values and Islamic tenets.

>>125248028
>Did they mange that? No.
>Did they manage to integrate into Western culture and society? No.

But they did and have though. There have always been large muslim minorites that lived in the west with minimal issue, it's only when the whole ME clusterfuck happened and Muslims were forced to take sides either with the murderous arseholes or the people who thought they were the murderous arseholes that things really went tits up.

If everybody you knew started calling you a nazi or communist, and suddenly the only respite from this was with a nazi or communist, you wouldn't suddenly become a bit more nazi or communist?
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>>125248417
>converting to islam
>falling for taqiyya

ayy
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That's quite a lot of possible factions. If they start with just 5 at release it's going to take them years to put the rest in game.
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At least /gsg/ actually talks about their games.
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>>125248458
i paid 7k for that non-aggression pact

this was uncalled for
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>>125248417

Wait I'm probably on some list now aren't I
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>>125248236
ebin troled :DDDDDD
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>>125248906
Only factions with 8th edition books are getting in.
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>>125248906

The proportions of this map seem completely out of whack compared to any other map of the Old World I have ever seen.

Also, they're not doing "factions" They're doing "races"

Which there are 15 of plus a few more if they include Chaos Dwarves and Kislev and things like that.
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>>125248661
>I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's incompatible, but I would say that it does require wiggle room to fit properly, something that will only happen with integration between Western values and Islamic tenets.

Sorry, but that is a lot of nonsense to me
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if the Ottomans never conquered Constantinople, would the Renaissance still have occurred, if you get what I mean
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>>125249118
I didn't once say it was tolerant or peaceful, quite the opposite in fact.

Stop attributing anything short of calling for genocide as some kind of unconditional defence.
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>>125249104
hahaha nice one kid you got me
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>>125248028
>They are Muslims, they belong back in the desert

Why are Christians allowed out of the Levant then?
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>>125249225

>Only factions with 8th edition books are getting in.

[CITATION NEEDED]
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>>125248906
So High Elves are basically carribean cajuns?
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>>125249392
Because they integrate into the society they live in and don't explode buildings when someone makes a joke about Jesus
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>>125249413

They are Atlantis.
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>>125249231
It's almost like you read literally nothing I said.

>>125249253
I understand, but I feel like Islam will only remain regressive and violent unless the people that follow it learn to integrate western values into their own teachings. It does happen once and a while, i'm living proof of it. It needs to happen on a much larger scale though, and only when the countries of the world learn to take in and teach rather than push away and destroy.
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>>125249286
Yes, and by many account it had already began almost a century earlier. It might've been very different and not radiated out of Italy so strongly, hoewever.

>>125249502
I don't think you're well aware of how Christianity spread through Europe :^)
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>>125249502
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence
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>>125249405
The latest rallypoint, they say they're only covering the major armies of the warhammer fantasy tabletop.

>>125249648
christkeks btfo
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>>125249637
>I don't think you're well aware of how Christianity spread through Europe :^)

Christians have graduated from their medieval ways, Muslims still live like barbarians

No wonder according to the way they count time we still live in the fourteen hundreds ;-)
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>>125249648
Except hardly any of that is actually justified in the New Testament you turkroach
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>>125249750

>they say they're only covering the major armies of the warhammer fantasy tabletop.

No they didn't.

They said that they're gonna include every major army.

They didn't say they wouldn't include ANY minor armies.

They didn't use the word "Only" anywhere.
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Nice unit, kid

Would be a shame if they turn into fucking rats
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>>125249889
I apologise for being wrong.
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>>125249879
le magic goalposts of shifting
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>>125247473
They do, if they get too close to groups of people they tend to explode
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>>125249879

>New Testament

Reminder that Jesus said that you should still follow all the Old Testament rules.

He said that you could still get into heaven if you didn't, but that you would be the "least" and the ones that did would be called "great"

If you're a good Christian then you'd better remember not to fix your fabrics or boil your goat the wrong way.
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>>125249405
devstream, so kislev, tilea, and estalia fags can just fuck off right now.
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>>125249648
>it counts as Christian terrorism if niggers in Africa shoot each other to get into power
>not actually motivated by religion
>not justified in the faith itself in any way whatsoever

cool ;^)
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>>125249648
christianity that's some impressive terror, shame they'll never be as good as their islamic friends
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>>125250087

>devstream

Nice citation faget.

Gimme a fucking quote at least.
>>
How do I git gud? I just got Attila the other day and am overwhelmed because of the size of the eastern roman empire. What do I do? should I withdraw and consolidate territory closer to Constantinople?
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>>125249994
>jesus lives his entire life without killing a single person
>mohammad rides beheading everyone because they hurt his feeligns

hmm
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AoC needs some real unit variety
battles are boring while the campaign is pretty fun
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Hey guys, is there anywhere I can download the age of charlemagne dlc cracked standalone? I have the rest of the game and DLC cracked I just need charlemagne
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>>125250104
>>125250169
>>125250219

>this much denial and cognitive dissonance
absolutely beautiful
never change you memeing fuckwits.
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>>125250292
While you're at it you should try to download a job as well
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>>125250292
yes just go to legitfreegames.nsa.gov, they have everything
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>>125249879

I hate muslims and all, but it's a fact that Christians killed millions of people all around the world and kicked many cultures back to medieval.

Muslims will need to work really hard if they want to match our kill count.

Shit, Iraq invasion alone is 36k dead muslims. Muslim terrorism in western countries is not even close.
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>>125250442
There's a difference between someone of one religion killing someone else and an act of terror motivated by religion alone you redditor
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>72 years old
>Blind
And now he lost his fucking shoes.

This disgrace can only be washed away with blood. Next battle he's going to spearhead the assault and die a warrior's death!
Being blind as a mole - he wont see it coming.
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>>125250219

Please stop.

The reason modern Christians are superior to Muslims is because they have learned to completely ignore what their book of fairy tales says while Muslims still pretends theirs matters, not because the two different books of fairy tales are substantially different.
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>>125250442
Oh yes, because the casus belli for invading Iraq was due to Christianty.

Keep trying Ahmed
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>>125249889

They need to include minor armies since you will fight them in the campaign. They will probably just not have lords and enough units to be playable factions yet.
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Go to /his/ you fucking fags. Why do these debates here?
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>>125250442

What the fuck does the Iraq war have to do with Christianity.

Everyone knows that war was started for the glory of the Dark Lord Cheney
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>>125250596
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>>125250560

Tell that to South America. 30 million people (by moderate estimates) murdered in the name of God.
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>>125250415
>buying single player content, especially DLC
>ever

Enjoy wasting your money faggot
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>>125249597
I don't like being the judge of whos a "real" x and y, but I don't see how a Muslim can adopt democracy and live under non-muslim rule when the Quran clearly states that Shariah is to be followed and non-muslims should not be takes as protectors and allies.

Even Quranists follow this doctrine, ruling out the wahhabis who more or less follow hadith rules
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>>125250560
>>125250650
>>125250815
He's just making the same logically fallacy you're making, by claiming the motivation for most muslim terrorists is Islam. Most of these 'muslim terrorist attacks' are done in revenge for attacks by Western states on various Mid Eastern factions. The two most recent attacks (Paris and San Bernwhateveritscalled) were in DIRECT retaliation for the assassination of a high ranking daesh member.
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>>125250974
Thank you, I will.
Enjoy being poor.
>>
>reminder that /twg/ is a christian general and all Islamic related posts should be directed to the >>>/trash/
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>>125250204
witchDOTtv/totalwarofficial/v/29364363

1:16:30

Kislev fags on suicide watch
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>>125250442
>Christians killed millions of people all around the world and kicked many cultures back to medieval.
Timur's conquests alone match this, and those were explicitly religiously motivated rather than the 'these people were nominally christian so it counts' bullshit muslims and muslim apologists try to pull.
>>
>>125250974
I hope one day people will stop doing retarded things like buying games and playing multiplayer games
Then we can usher in a new golden era of video games that will come from modding teams making free AAA games from scratch
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>>125250842

Please explain how I'm wrong.

Democratic societies and the rule of law function because the citizens agree to abide by the law even when they might not like it, "Nah, my preferred holy writ tells me to do something else so I'm gonna ignore that law" is not considered an acceptable excuse.

As you can clearly see by: >>125248923 Muslims generally disagree with this line of thinking. They believe that the rules set out in the holy book should take precedence over those made by men.
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>>125251145
>actually referring to ISIS as daseh

Back to reddit you pleb

P.S all the terrorist attacks are justified
in the quran
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>>125251145
Yeah those terrorist attacks in Bali, Iran and China is because of evil Western states, right? :^^^^)

Going for he "b-but muslim terrorism is just a response to neo imperialism" is so incredibly naive
>>
>>125251396
>>125251342
>>125251546

take this shit elsewhere, this is clearly not total war related and not even a /vg/ related discussion
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religion of peace lads

soon they'll destroy the Roman ruins in Libya
Palmyra's already been hit and some others in Syria, Iraq
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>>125251670
>oh fuck I'm losing this argument
>"Go away! Stop posting that here!"
>>
REMEMBER! RADICAL ISLAM IS A RESPONSE TO WESTERN IMPERIALISM!

just ignore the history of Iran and similar middle eastern countries that were becoming more developed nations but that change got completely shit on my the aggressive take over of radical islamist
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>>125248913
It turns into this shit a lot too
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>>125252052

Reminder that Iran only became a Islamic fuckhole because America decided to topple the democratic government that was already in place.

inb4
>"B-but we didn't want the radicals to take over! We installed the Shah!"

Yeah, and if you cut a leg off of a table and replaced it with a replacement leg made of butter it TOTALLY wouldn't be your fault when the table ends up falling over.

The Shah was weak and no one fucking wanted him, he was never gonna hold the country, the state of modern Iran is 100% on America.
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>ISIS pushes south and destroys Babylon
>ISIS gets a bomber to destroy the Arch of Ctesiphon
>the west still does nothing
>Iran gets pissed and tries to do something
>gets sanctioned to hell by the west
this is the future the west has chosen
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>>125252373

>Reddit
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>>125251175
>implying
Lol, I make plenty of money. The reason I'm NOT poor is because I don't spend my money supporting big video game developers.
>>125251307
Plebs will always buy games so smart people don't have to.
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>>125251256

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Army_Book#8th_Edition

So we're looking at:

Vampire Counts / Empire / Warriors of Chaos / Dwarfs / Orcs
Lizardmen / Dark Elves / High Elves
Tomb Kings / Ogre Kingdoms

>No beastmen
>No skaven
>No fucking Bretonnia

My hope was for araby/Estalia/Kislev/Tilea and I knew they were unlikely but damn if they don't include Bretonnia and skaven that's pretty whack.
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>>125251938
Even if it is the same guy, he is still right about that this shit doesn't belong here.
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>>125252587
>It's ok for me to do this because other people will do the thing I oppose
So you're a parasite then?
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>>125252494
feels bad
>this doesn't exist anymore
>ISIS destroyed it
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>>125252598

Brets are rumored to be a FLC.
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>>125252671
No, I'm just not a fucking sheep.
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>>125252598
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle#Armies

This is probably a better list. Skaven are expecting a new book soon at the very least.
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>>125252598

>>No skaven
>>No fucking Bretonnia

Yeah, bullshit.

He was clearly speaking off the cuff.

They said in Rallypoint, an actually scripted show, that they were gonna include "All the major armies" with no reference to edition.

That absolutely includes Skaven and Bretonnia.
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>>125246752
Hit and miss for me. They will do till meloncat does his and hopefully releases a submod for muh kite shields
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>>125252760
So far we have confirmed free update to include a legendary Orc lord that leads savage Orcs, that's apparently some kind of special Orc
I forgot his name
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>>125252820

Anon, GW no longer does armybooks.
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>win an insanely large balls to the wall coastal defense battle
>get hype as shit, things might turn around in this theater
>realize I'm still plying on easy
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>>125252897

Wurrzah Da Great Green Prophet
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>>125252494

>Middle-East nations and those close to the middle east try to do something about IS
>get sanctioned by the west

All hail our American Overlords!
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>>125252813
But you require a working system in order to get what you want. You need the plebs paying the companies that produce a product for the plebs to pay them for. Then you siphon off the goods without actually giving anything in return.
That's textbook parasitism.
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>>125253019
>Da Great Green Prophet

sounds like they are slandering Mohammed's name...
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>>125252981
>realize I'm still plying on easy

What's wrong with you
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>>125253158
Stop this roleplaying shit.
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MOST FUN HORDE FACTION IN VANILLA ATTILA, GO
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>>125253113
It's not though, because digital goods aren't finite. The devs don't feel it when I play their games for free.
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whats the easiest faction to start grand campaign with in rome 2
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>>125253525
Huns/White huns, Ostrogoths, Tanookis.
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>>125253608
Why do you have to apply some warped logic to justify your actions?

If you want to be a parasite then go ahead, but don't try to talk around and somehow justify it
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>>125251938
>>125252629
I am not the same guy, I just wanna talk about video games in a video game general and not fucking politics. There is a specific board to do that in.
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>>125253525

White Huns
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>Empire don't get Bright Wizards

What the fuck?
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>>125254021
Is there anything sadder than a weeb that's also a Warhammer nerd?
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>>125253608
And I don't feel it when a mosquito sucks my blood, and the amount of blood drawn is so small, your body doesn't even notice.
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>>125254021
ofcourse you do, only for the low price of $19,99 on release day!
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>>125254021
They will add all the magic lores but the lore of fire just didnt make the cut for the initial release
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>>125253781
>conversation about religion stops
>replys to a 16 minute post to resume religion posting

Nice try paki shit
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>>125254021
Pretty weird. For better or worse it's definitely going to be dlc.
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>>125254090

Is there anything sadder than anti-weeb on a weeb webpage?
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>>125254090
Caring enough to post that to be honest.
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>>125251396
>lalala cant hear you

>>125251546
>missing the point this hard
Always amusing how triggered you faggots get when people poke holes in your favourite spooks
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>>125254272
you are the one single individual that feels like he has to post weeb reaction images in /twg/

we get that that's some sort of attempt at establishing a personality or whatever, but it's really just sort of sad
like when furries want everyone to be furries
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>>125252916
Battletome then whatever, same shit.
>>
>>125254250
I was wondering why on their DLC comment they mentioned including additional magic lores as DLC.

Now I know.
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>>125254645
>Ahmed, again, replies to posts that are half an hour old in an attempt to stir up shit
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>>125252223
To be completely honest, nowadays it happens far less than here.
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>>125238682
Holy Roman Empire tbqh
if you guys weren't plebs you'd know he was the leader of the HRE in the Civilization 4 expansions
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>>125254991
Civilization is a reddit game
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>>125254934
I had other things to do with my life than point out your dumbassery, excuse me.
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>>125254272
No, 4chan was founded to talk about how much weebs suck. Eventually other boards were created as the interests of the tall, proud, manly men began to constantly shoot the shit about those topics (like /o/, /k/, and /fit/). Eventually, though, the jealousy of weebs and degenerates brought them in, and the FBI, wanting to keep an eye on all these paedofiles and NEETbeards forced 4chan to create boards for them and rewrote its history to claim that 4chan was always a site for weebs and degenerates. The old userbase was fractured, some wanting them completely gone (that would leave with all the content later) and those that wanted to turn the degenerates into respectable human beings. The latter would split again into three groups: the strongest of mind that would leave to better sites, the not as strong of mind that would persist in keeping some sense of decency in certain boards, and those of weak mind that would be absorbed into degeneracy.
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>>125254272
Anime can ____ ___
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>>125253525
WHITE HUNS
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>>125255082
great post
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>>125254140

But Chaos Sorcerers will have the Lore of Fire on release.

Yes, even if you don't buy them the lore will still be in the game.
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>>125255353
thanks reddit
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=574000325

Can anyone upload no steam version?
Pretty please?
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>>125255392
you're welcome 9gag
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>>125255412

>Slavaboos

Not even once
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Did the Papal states ever try to expand irl? Did they even fight with the other Italian city states?
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Rome II/Atillia kind of run like crap on my comp

I mean I need to put everything around medium to get a constant 60 frames

here's my stats, anything I should change?
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>>125255718
They had considerable territory during the Renaissance
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Is there going to be more DLC for Attila? Anyone know what it is. Not really feeling charles.
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>>125255820
Your CPU is shit tbhh
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>>125256058
>Is there going to be more DLC for Attila

They said there would be more Attila DLC and that they will talk about it in the future.
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>>125256159
Is it that bad? Enough to bottleneck me?
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>>125255820
get an Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
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Lol someone is making General portraits for AOC
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>>125256447
not an i7?
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>>125256332

Mid tier CPU and high tier GPU. Kind of stupid really.
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>>125255820
Had this for a fair few years

Even I can run Rome and Attila on medium at 60fps
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>>125256504
>i7
>gaming
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>>125255820
>>125256332

It could be better with a better CPU but it won't matter, you won't get 60 FPS on Attila no matter what, there will always be situations where you drop to 30s.

I honestly don't care because I've gamed for years sub 30s and now that I have a good PC I tend to not care that much and don't have the 60fps block
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>>125256332
Total War games are CPU heavy because lots of units moving around

Your GPU is overpowered compared to your CPU

You should prob look at some high end i5 or mid end i7
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>>125256526
I love those

"yeah dude I run it on max 100 FPS with my amd 6300 and saphire 7780 ;)))"
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>>125256006
but did they fight for the regions?
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Where do I go from here? Fuck over the East Romans (they are nr 1 because I eliminated Sissynids for them)
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>>125257134

Kill everything
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Time for memeball guys!
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>>125254690
> you are the one single individual that feels like he has to post weeb reaction images in /twg/
Except he isnt.
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>>125257248
We must sacrifice a bull to ensure our desperately needed victory
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>>125254690
Getting mad at reaction images is worse than getting mad at people making fun of your religious leader, to be honest
>>
Is a Intel Core i7 2600 / 3.4 GHz worth replacing yet?
>>
>>125257317
>>125257490
is "I'm not samefagging" and "you are mad" really the best you could come up with
>>
>>125257653
Is being unreasonably angry over a picture really worth shitposting about?
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>>125257490
Wait, are you christian or muslim?
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>>125257653

>"T-There could only possibly be one person on the internet who disagrees with me!"
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>>125257541

Get 4 GHz. That's what I'm doing for Warhammer.
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>>125256984
They were engaged in warfare, yes.
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>>125257653
Is "you're samefagging" and "you're mad" really the best you could come up with?
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>>125257541
Does it not provide what you want? Why replace something that does the job for you.

If I were you I would wait for Warhammer release and 2 patches (for CA to optimize it for non-super high end machines) and then decide.
>>
G-Guys, I cannot computor, how do I know when it's appropriate to switch out select parts and when I need to throw out most of the machine and start over?
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How would you change up the typical Total War formula to make the coming games more unique to the older ones?

I would like to see a pre history Total War some time after men started to settle down and became farmers. You would start with maybe one small town and the unit sizes change according to your food income and empire size. Same with the AI factions. In the beginning there would be a lot of blank space with tribal people, but after a few turns city states will pop up which will eventually be kingdoms, making the conflicts bigger. With research you determine if you want to be a cavalry focused nation and so on.

I also would implement a feature to tag one soldier in your army to follow him around and look how he's doing in battle.
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>>125256453

Wojack feels is a time traveler.
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/vg/ League game starting! We win and we advance. Failure is not an option.

Deus Vult!

Stream is twitch @/4chan
cup
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>>125258262
you throw it out every time desu
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>>125258264

I would make a Total War set in a fantasy universe.

Maybe CA could licence the use of a existing fantasy property to make the game in, something that will bring some existing engagement to the table.

You know, have a bunch of really different fantasy races instead of just variants of "Different guys with armor and swords, maybe one faction will have elephants"

You could have all kinds of crazy shit going on, flying units, magic who knows.
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>>125258335
>Keeper isn't Constantinople
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>>125258264
I don't know how to make video games but I have a lot of ideas and they'll take me far
>>
MELONCAT WHERE ARE YOU?

YOU HAVE SAVED US
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>>125257939
cool! their enemies must've had a morale penalty. Fighting against the Pope himself and all that
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>>125258335
SAXONS

STRONK
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>>125259647
Nah, the Pope just used wardos
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>>125242774
gj playing as kebab
>>
CLEAR VICTORY 2-0
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>>125239534
ERE
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>>125260334

ROME ANS CONQERD
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPRYXS0YZI
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Can you play as Byzantium in Charlemagne?

It's not one of the listed factions but is it one of the unplayables that can be unlocked?
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So is Westphalia the only kingdom that can convert in AoC?
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>>125260769
Byzaboos can unlock Sicily
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>>125260334
ROMA
T
C
I
V
N
I
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>>125260769

Theme of sicily
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I fucking love sieges with siege towers and ladders!
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Looks pretty christian to me, I like that
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fuck choshu desu
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>all the generals in the group stage that I've regulared have made it to the knockouts
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>>125260769
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=574000325

Slavs plus Theme of Sicily(Byzantium). Shame that there is no Irish, Welsh or Picts. Bavaria would be nice too.

If anybody can upload this mod somewhere I will be grateful. Thanks.
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>>125261139
Carloman stronk
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>>125261467

are you our manager
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>that laundry list of special abilities

why are sharpshooters so based
>>
When AoC tells you to "own" provinces to become King of whatever, do they mean you actually have to own them or are client states sufficient?
>>
Why the fuck does my 16 unit army only get 1 siege point?

Takes three turns to build a single ladder are you kidding me laddies
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>>125256453
Name of mod?
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>>125261802
>armour on cannon

why must you do this
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>>125262030
My 17 unit army can build two siege towers, a battering ram and a ladder

step it up :-)
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>>125262113

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?705015-Age-of-Charlemagne-General-Unit-Portraits

Not finished yet desu
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>>125262002
you have to own them>>125256453
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>>125262224
Do you know what affects the siege points calculation? This is the first time I've not been able to build anything at all
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Oh Roma, what have they done to you.

We're home.
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>>125261802

GEE I WONDER WHAT THIS SUSPICIOUS CLOUD OF SMOKE COULD BE

>>125262138

same as my accuracy province, homie
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>>125262716
And of course the Barbarian fucking shits come and try to take the eternal city back from us.
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>>125260793
Bumping?
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>>125263048
Does wetphalia even convert if you choose that decision? I thought it just gives you status debuffs and better relations with charlemagne.
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Finally killed off the faction that has had it's hordes biting at my empire like mosquitos.
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>>125261531
No
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>>125263505
know the feel
it's so fucking satisfying killing an empire that's being fucking with you
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>>125263505
Sassies?
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>>125263304
Idk, I just saw that they had other religious buildings on Honga while the others did not.
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This game is too hard... why can't it play like a normal RTS?
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Building a wall to keep the Christians out of my land
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>>125263985
git git git got got got get get get good
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>>125264105
>tell my infantry to attack some guys
>nothing happens, very few models die
>tell archers to shoot
>LITERALLY NOTHING HAPPENS
>send in cavalry
>Instantly gets shreked by everything
>suddenly my whole army flees in terror

haha
>>
>>125263879

Angles/Saxons. Both had like six boats of hordes and just rolled around pecking at me while I was busying handling the conquest of Britain. I'm playing Geats
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>>125264320
What in the fuck are you doing?
>>
>>125239704
Gimme something good that's not Mercia or Asturias, first is too easy and second already done
>>
Are your hearts in the trim /twg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAvmLDkAgAM
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>>125264320
Post a screenshot so I can have a laugh pls
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>>125264320
Acquire proficiency
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Why did I have to build ladders to attack this city?
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>>125264461
Lombards, well I guess it's time to remove Franks and the Pope
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>>125264676
PURE STRATEGY
>>
>>125239704
r
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>>125264676
Had the same thing with Asturias, bugged I guess.

Also
>Playing in german
Warum tust du das?
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>>125264529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAtZRdaCufw
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>>125264320
how can you be this shit at video games
>>
>>125264569
Nah I ragequit after trying for a few hours. I'm going to wait for Warhammer... hopefully I'll have the motivation then.
>>
>>125264676
woah there, you need to remove the flags from your game, nationalism isnt allowed in The Previous Nation of Germany that is now called The Friendly Community of Life
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>>125264529
>tfw
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>>125264990
The outcome will be similar. You have to understand how units and morale works.
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>>125264887
Weil mir die englischen Stimmen auf den Senkel gehen nachdem ich immer mit mods in Englisch gespielt habe. (die deutschen sind nicht schlecht, nerven aber auch langsam nach 2 Jahren seit Rom II)
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>>125264939
My guys gets stuck fighting the enemy and the minute I tell them to retreat they get mowed down.

>>125265180
I shouldn't have skipped the tutorial desu.
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>>125265261
Wait, are you seriously playing Attila as your first TW?
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>>125265183
>Weil mir die englischen Stimmen auf den Senkel gehen
Kann ich akzeptieren, weitermachen!
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>>125264320

>people always mock the total war series for being easy baby mode
>then theres this guy
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>>125265261
>my guys get stuck
they are fighting

>the minute I tell them to retreat they get mowed down
if you turn around you get stabbed in the back

I would tell you what to do with which units, but you literally seem like a person that has never played a video game before
>>
>>125265261
>My guys gets stuck fighting the enemy and the minute I tell them to retreat they get mowed down.
Because you can't just engage in melee and then run away. The infantry you're fighting will just assfuck you. You'll only get away if you're using skirmishers or some other light unit that can move faster than whatever you're attacking, or if you have a second melee unit that can engage the enemy unit and free your previous one from combat.
>>
>>125264320
Which total war game?
>>
>>125265016
It's okay buddy, I got a permit for that. I only had to give my mother to the local refugee shelter for a week.
>>
>>125265351
Yea

>>125265656
Atilla

>>125265620
>>125265572
I get that but its super annoying. I think the amount of units might be too high for a beginner.
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I've been trying to build this trading port for 20+ turns

fuck the choshu
>>
>>125265826

>I get that but its super annoying. I think the amount of units might be too high for a beginner.

I prefer smaller battles myself, but seriously, you have a pause button. Use it, a lot. Once a enemy comes into sight, just press P (or rebind it to Space like I did) and plan accordingly. You can still issue orders and commands, and it makes difficult battles a breeze.
>>
>>125265826
Fixing a unit in place with infantry works against the enemy too. While your infantry fight in the front, have another unit move around the flanks. Basic total war dogma.

I would also suggest doing the tutorial because you mentioned archers not being effective, and that should only be the case if you're fighting some heavily armored fucks. It's possible you have no idea how the interface or unit specialties work.
>>
>>125265826
Attila is arguably the hardest TW, a terrible choice for your first TW game
>>
>>125265826

Try playing the tutorial or practice with custom battles, or watch youtubers.

Or just start out with shogun 2
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>>125266198
You can pause? How did I miss that.

>>125266408
Doing that now.

>>125266342
A friend gifted me Atilla which is why I'm playing it, really just waiting for Warhammer at this point.

>>125266339
My friend told me to do this but the amount of units is confusing and the AI keeps doing it to me.
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>>125265826
Use the pause button

Try to fight on hills, units get much stronger when they have the high ground

Swords and axes are pretty much the same, they are good against other infantry
axes have more armor penetration, two handed axes are really good at killing infantry but die easily to arrows

Spears are good against horses, especially if you press the "make a wall" button
Pikes are like more extreme spears that get fucked much harder if they get attacked in the side or back

Skirmishers (spear throwing guys) have little range and ammunition, but do a lot of damage, especially if you hit someone in the side or back

Horse archers just ride around and shoot people, you put them into skirmish mode
There are two kinds of melee cavalry, normal ones and shock cavalry, shock cavalry is good at charging in, but they suck in long engagements so you want to either pull them out or smash everyone on the first go

Dogs are good for scaring people and chasing down people that run away, don't right click them but use the "release dogs" button when the enemy is close enough, they will attack by themselves because they are dogs

What you basically want to do is make a line of infantry, with the archers behind, and circle around with cavalry

Don't have your general die and if you can try to kill the enemy general (with horses for example), dying generals are bad for moral

If you feel like it's impossible to get a handle on Attila but think you might like the game, try Shogun 2, the combat is a lot simpler and the game practically has no sieges
>>
Post you're favourite TW trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK1S4GYHJTw
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>>125265826
Listen to this guy
>>125266408
It also has a very fun feature called realm divide that activates when you complete the main objective. You get loads of powerful units and makes the end of the campaign alot easier
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>>125266624

>You can pause? How did I miss that.

Because the devs are literal cunts and bound it to P instead of the spacebar, and they never say there is a pause function.

Which is fucking hilarious considering how important it is.
>>
hammer and anvil is the official strategy of /twg/
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>>125266865
there is literally a panel with a pause icon in the top right

it's impossible to miss desu
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>>125237160
Why do people keep perpetuating this lie?
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>>125266727

The legend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj3-VkbRSKQ
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>>125266727

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGI_g9NFzDY


VIVE L'EMPEREUR
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>>125265826

Use pause or slow down until you get out of scrub status

Then never pause again
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>>125260769
There's also this http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=574258566
but 2bh I'm going to wait a bit longer for more fleshed-out and polished byzaboo mods.
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>>125266727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiKiNIlPcgs
Ashen Horse comes in a close second
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>>125266727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQPLUyzVC9E

Get on my level peasant
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>>125267086
>>125266983
anime can fuck off
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>>125266865
I've been playing TW for years and I have never used pause once in my life
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>>125267180
You can fuck anime
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>>125267454
>You can fuck anime
lmao you fucking wish :)
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>>125245217
So are Slav armies weak versions of Danish armies?
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>>125267180
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>>125266645
>Horse archers just ride around and shoot people, you put them into skirmish mode
>you put them into skirmish mode

WOW

JUST WOW
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>>125267180
>>125267454
>>125267778
I'm not with these guys, I just like Shogun.
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>DEI
>vanilla

which one my familia?
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>>125268001
radious :)
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>>125267959
I also like Shogun for non-weeb reasons despite myself being a weeb.

I'm more of a Rome-aboo though which is why I'm wasting my education on a Classics degree
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>>125266865
>Which is fucking hilarious considering how important it is

Do people seriously pause? I'm not talking about pausing cause you need to get up and do something else, I mean pausing in a battle do reposition. I can understand if you're new like that anon that's getting fucked, but I sure hope no one else does.
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>>125267910
the guy that can't figure out how and why units die when you try to disengage them is hardly going to micro around with horse archers
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When I play with Darthmod or LME the number of men on the unit card just shows up as '1' regardless, is it meant to be that way or did I fuck up installing?
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>>125268382

I use slow motion often if I really need to be precise.
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>>125268404
Something fucked up. Which tw game?
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pausing doesn't help you on legendary you faggots
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>>125267778

>boob-shaped armor

weebs truly are ignorant, aren't they?
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=574709406

Brits are all unlocked now.
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Uh.

CHOSHU FUCKING SHITS
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>>125268382
Alexander didn't need to pause so I don't my friend
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Why does Shogun 2 run worse than Rome 2 for me?

I think I need to figure something out.
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>>125268798

W E S S E X
E
S
S
E
X
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>>125268870
Bend over lad
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Gonna post the pict and welsh unique units
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>>125269159
Welsh first pls
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Asturias is ez mode to be honest

Easier than Merica, even
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>>125269159

Kingdom of Gwynned
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>>125269524
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>>125268532
Napoleon.
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>>125266645
Thanks for the info. I just played a custom game and it went alright, I won by killing their general but I lost A LOT of my men... not sure if thats normal or not. I think I'm getting the hang of it, the pause function was a real game changer.
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>>125269803
>>
Who has the best archers in Charleman?
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>>125270103
>no helwyr
>no saethwyr

not impressed
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>>125269524>>125269803
What's unique about them? They have same stats as Mercia units.
As I recall the only unique unit on the British isles that the player doesnt have access to is Pictish Crossbows.
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>>125270103
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Should the armies of the Jutes march to the aid of Mercia /twg/?
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>>125270439

Since I'm bored of resolving captchas here's Kingdom of Leinster all in one

>>125270378

Don't expect too much of these, there's a reason why they're minor factions
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>>125270061
When I first started playing losing men felt weird too, after playing RTS games like Starcraft etc

Your individual men will replenish, you obviously want to lose as few men as possible but it's just a thing that happens and as long as entire units don't get wiped out things are alright
>>
1-5 for Atilla Sand Jew campaign continue
6-0 for Rome 2 Rome campaign continue
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>>125270378
You can levy Welsh archers if you subdue a Welsh faction
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>>125270061
Object isn't to kill but to rout.
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>>125271131
more like kingdom of no pics
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Picts and Theme of Sicily are too big for 4shit so here you go

http://imgur.com/a/d9eRS

>>125271479

u havin a laff?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK0BMkKmwB4
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>>125252598
Brets as of now at least seem to be an NPC group. In one of the demos they are seen on the map.
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>>125272979
anon is bullshitting, on the official stream they said they would all the major armies playable and that doesn't means just whatever rulebook is current
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>>125267597
But anti-weebs keep saying "fuck anime"
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>>125271937
Upload mod please, anon.
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>>125273529


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=573927359
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>>125273529
I think it's in the Steam workshop, someone posted it earlier in the thread

>>125273272
It's "anime can fuck off"
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>tfw
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>>125273271
They said their focus is on the 8th edition armies. However, they mentioned how just because they're not in the 8th edition doesn't mean they would be included. The mentioned how Kislev will have significance in game, and let's fact it, they actually bothered to show off Louen Leoncoeur so they're definitely going to do something with them.
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>>125273707
I'm sure they will focus on and include all the 8th edition armies but that in no way means anything that's not currently in the tabletop rule thingy won't be included just because it's not there
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>gtx 760
>i7 4970
>16 gigs

attila runs like shit

why are people with worse pcs having good performance?
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>>125272130
Those Spiders look awesome. I just wanna play :( Hold me lads
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Yep, I'm adopting his ass
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>>125272130
Thanks for the news.
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>>125273686
How many hours did you play?
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>>125274002
you can play
when you buy the dwarf DLC pack on release, only an extra $19,99!
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>>125273686
Which TW is that?
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>>125274717
I don't think I like this meme

It's neither accurate nor entertaining, and you keep pushing it

>>125274754
That's Attila I believe
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Has anyone notices that AoC fucked up sieges in the grand campaign?
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>>125274717
Where in the world are you getting this from? The DLC will come in expansion packs, each their own base game, which can be combined with any other version of it you have to give you more races and all that. There's not any planned
PIKEMEN DLC
SKINK COLOR DLC
etc etc
You're just fearmongering.
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>>125239704
>>125239534
gonna roll on these and pick which ever i haven' played yet
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>>125275056
pretty sure they are releasing factions as DLC on release
>>
LADS I WANNA SEE SOME GREAT ONLINE RTW FIGHTS
SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT
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>>125275056
It's one person posting the same thing over and over again

Probably a bitter Warhammer neckbeard that got kiked into buying too many miniatures or one of those idiots that live in poverty and think all DLC is inherently evil
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>>125275148
They aren't, a small chaos faction was offered as a preorder bonus, that's it. They aren't going to have one faction DLC, they're having various packs which will add in more areas of the world and the factions therein.
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>>125274448
>>125274754

639 hours on Attila

Its now my most played TW title

Nothing else interests me atm and I have nothing else to play ;-;
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>>125239704
rolling
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>>125275308
>639 hours on Attila

How the fuck is that even possible
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>>125275374
pretty easy to be honest
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How the FUCK did their general survive?
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>>125275348
Allahu akbar my friends
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>>125275495
He's good at swimming
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>>125275374

I've seen people in the steam review section with way more hours and they still gave it a bad review :^)
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>>125275303
>small chaos faction
loving
every
laugh
>>
Sacking is such shit
>sack the frankish capital
>gain enough money to pay 2 months upkeep of that same army, even though I needed 2 armies like that to defeat their armies beforehand
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>>125275669
There is literally nothing wrong with preorder DLC these days if you were already planning to buy the game on release

You can preorder it and if you got tricked and it's garbage you go refund it
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>>125275725
But you still have the army
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>>125275441
>>125275648
Do you have 600+ for all TW or am I doing something wrong?
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Does Attila run like shit for anyone else?
Who /AMD/ here?
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>>125275725

>not playing a sacking focused faction like the danes or the vandals with their ridiculous 150% sacking bonus

Or you could just focus on army traditions and get the sweet sacking bonus
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>>125276027
Yes, and it'll take 3 turns to recover its losses to no significant gain

To be fair early in the game you can inject some cash, plus you do keep them in check by defeating the army. It's just so... insiginifcant in the grand scheme of the campaign.
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>>125276036
>400 hours in Shogun 2

Now that's difficult
>>
Game and mod to play? Bored
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>>125276169
I don't really understand your issue

The army is still there doing what you build it for, and they pay for themselves

What?
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>>125275303
>Chaos
>Small
Chaos is a huge part of the Warhammer world and without it practically breaks all immersion that they had left... disregarding everything else.

I'm not even going to mention how they made the main faction of the game preorder dlc
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>>125224487
Daily reminder
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>>125224487
>http://pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if
wtf is this shit
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>>125276610
>main faction of the game
But it's clearly not

What's wrong with preorder DLC?
inb4 no actual answer and "hurr its bad"
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>>125276843
anthro plane porn. What are you, a homo?
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>>125276949
>What's wrong with preorder DLC

How depressing it must be to have a mindset such as this
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>>125276949
How is it not? Even if you don't know canon it's not hard to understand. I'm not even mad that they made chaos one faction but it's still retarded that you think Chaos is a SMALL faction
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>>125276843
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>>125276610
>Chaos
>main faction
Fanboy harder, they're important for sure but in no means the 'main' faction.

In the Old World the Empire would be the main faction as they have dealings with most races in one way or another.
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>>125277072
>>125277096
>inb4 no actual answer and "hurr its bad"
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>>125276843
Wait what?
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>>125277096
They didn't just make chaos one faction though, it's still various factions, they included this one specific type of it in this DLC pack.
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>>125276667
no one would argue against this. it's true.
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>>125277203
Specifically for this preorder DLC?
They're cutting a faction that's a main part of the game that has a huge land mass and so many events and so many gods - even if you're retarded i'm sure you've heard people refer to the chaos gods many times hurrrr
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>>125277203
how can you think its anything but bad? really?
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>>125277492
>They're cutting
But they aren't, it's in the game

>>125277527
>>125277072
>it's depressing to disagree with me and that's why I'm right
???
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>>125277313
Chaos warriors implies it's a part of the Chaos canon, henceforth they're cutting a god.
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>>125270806
>skirmishers with only 3 javs
>some units get 2 precursors
Why bother?
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>>125277492
The faction is still in the game though even if you can't play them without buying the DLC / preordering.

By this logic we could argue Bretonnia is cut from the game because we can't play them on release and have to wait for the DLC.
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>>125277203
>>125277631
They're withholding a main faction to make you pre order the game?

You honestly believe there is nothing wrong with that?
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>>125277527
>>125277072
I'll spell out why you are retarded

There is no problem with preordering.
Preorder the game and you get the thing, done.

Oh no, you got tricked and the game is garbage?

Refund it.

>But I can't afford the game on release, what do I do???
Well there you go, games are as cheap as they've ever been, you wait a couple months and pick it up for half the price
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>>125239704
Roll
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>>125277834
There's your answer on what's wrong with cutting content - it's in the game, you just can't play it. Happy?
>>
>>125277959
>games are as cheap as they've ever been

Right that's it, shills are out in full force
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>>125275374
>>125276036
fite me
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>>125277954
see >>125277954

>>125277970
But you literally can play it if you preorder

Also, besides that, if you are somehow retarded and too poor to afford the thing once it's a dollar on sale the units are still all in the game and you can fight the faction
>>
AoC has some pretty interesting bugs I've never experienced in the base game
>Archers get charged by filthy cordoba general unit
>half of my unit is still firing at them point blank despite a few units being engaged in melee
>my peasant archers wipe out the general after being charged
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>>125278117
>what is inflation
>sales out the ass every fucking week
>keysites selling games, even on release, for fucking pennies (e.g. that Mad Max game went for 15$ and Just Cause for 30)

video games are cheap as fuck and if you were less stupid you would know that
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>>125278121
Fuck, forgot to get the fucking title in there
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>>125278332
>>125278121
>Rome 2
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>>125278126
>>125277959
shillbots on duty
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>>125278465
Yes
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>>125278332
Could be worse. It could be Empire.
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>>125278592
>DLC is inherently bad
>tell my why
>it just is! shill!
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>>125278626
Could be worse, could be Alejandro
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>people getting this upset over DLC
So why not just pirate it then?
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>>125278290
I'm talking about day one release you fucking idiot

Sales and keysite aren't even part of the equation
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>playing Vanilla Rome 2
>Just a few quality of life workshop mods like blood,better water, agent pictures, unique event pictures and 4TPY with season effects
>Playing iceni
>Turn 55 and much of Europe is well upgraded with an economy that just isn't possible.
>Getting raped by stacks of troops coming from a single village faction
What do?
Does 4TPY on its own fuck the balance up where its impossible for such small factions to be pumping out huge forces? Or have recent Rome 2 patches made the AI much better at economy management?
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>>125278921
>day one release
If you are planning on buying it on day 1 then preorder it you fucking idiot

Oh- it's garbage? Then fucking refund it

Also keysites do sell games on release

Did you read any of my post? Jesus you people are stupid
>>
>>125278986
Wat is ur difficulty?
>>
>>125279084
just stop now, CA employee #239

>just buy it ffs!!!
>>
Can someone explain me how food works in attila ?
>>
Bought the total war collection, think ill start rome 2 first

what are some key mods/ advice for the campaign?
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>>125279084
>If you are planning on buying it on day 1 then preorder it you fucking idiot
Why would I pre-order anything after Rome II?
>Oh- it's garbage? Then fucking refund it
Two hours is clearly not enough time
>Also keysites do sell games on release
Give me some sources for Warhammer then
>>
>>125279396

You're a retard
>>
>>125279670
farms give +food and some buildings give -food

how much food a farm gives is (in part) determined by how fertile your land is

if a province has no food it gets sad

note that the overall food number at the top gives a bonus if you have enough, but the individual provinces (the collective consisting of three settlements) still want to have enough food
to check if a province has enough food you click on a settlement and click on the icon on the bottom left of the screen, there's a food column that shows how much food the province consumes and how much it has.
>>
>>125279670
Some buildings produce food, some take food. You can get by without harming your army if your overall food production is above your overall consumption. However, if you have a province that is not self-sufficient, you will suffer a gold and happiness penalty. Fertility decreases at set points in the campaign, which lowers food production.
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>>125279278
Hard.

I've took it nice and slow,Britain under control and just pushed into Gaul/Belgium taking a fortified region and currently building a "hundred" for siege defence. But it should be impossible for these tiny villages be fully unlocked with 4 slots and tier 3 or 4 buildings whilst maintaing 2-4 armies that are between 12-20 units each.

Atrebartes are taking territory just past Nervii landswho recently bankrupted themselves by paying me 5600 for a peace treaty despite never fighting me once. Their 2 armies are down to half strength 5 units and the garrison is dead so I've just taken that but the faction just south of me has 3 full armies,2 warmaidens and a spy despite having just one region.

My income has only just passed 2.1k a turn and I've only got 2 full armies. I'm going to build a 3rd soon.
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>>125279875
Trade agreements, research military objectives, espiecialy the one who give you the ballista.
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>>125279930


This is why people call you a retard, no one forces you to play, you can simply wait as you would if you had not preordered and 2 hours are plenty to see if it technically works on your machine

You literally have no argument here
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>>125280150
how do you get a bunch of trade agreements at the start? seems like nobody is interested
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>>125279930
You make no sense whatsoever

>I'm talking about day one release
If you were planning to buy it on release what on earth is stopping you from preordering?
I can't comprehend

There is no difference between preorder and day 1 purchase

>2 hours is not enough
Then what would you have done if you went and bought it on day 1?

The smart thing to do is to look at footage to see if the game is good, play it for two hours and then refund if it's shit
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>>125279930
Sorry but what? You won't preorder a day in advance but you'll buy the game on release? How fucking stupid is that.
>>
>>125279670

overall food affects army reinforcement rate, factiinwide growth etc

regional food affects regional income, if you don't have enough food to sustain a province that province gets an income malus because it has to import food from other provinces
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>>125280234
>>125280269
>>125280289
Where have I said anything about me buying it on day one you bunch of down syndromed shills?
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>>125280150
>>125279875

Reminder: Trade is near impossible with barbarian factions due to their isolation.

For an easy first game pick either ,Rome or Egypt. When it comes to politics try and get your own family/clan/tribe/dynasty as generals and admirals instead of other political parties greatly helps with the civil war later.

As for workshop mods definitely 4TPY with season effects(without the mod there's no seasons and 1 turn=1 year which mean generals and characters die very quick). Better water is nice aswell for extra campaign map immersion as are the agent/event pictures. These are just quality of life and don't effect the game massively so you can still enjoy it.
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>>125280693
If you are not planning on buying on day 1 because you are poor then you are obviously going to wait for a sale and with all the sales and big discounts going on these days it wouldn't fuck matter that preorder DLC exist

How come you are so stupid?
>>
>>125280264
Depends on ur faction, use a fleet to discover other tribes.
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>>125280726
>the civil war
>war
>singular
I had one game where I finished my civil war and then another one happened 2 turns later
after that I just vassalized the shitheads and left two stacks by them to ensure they wouldnt do any stupid shit
>>
>>125280693
Well you're the one who brought up the day one release pricing. If you're not gonna pre-order nor buy it on day 1 then what the fuck are you complaining about? Wait a year and you can pick it up with all the DLC for 30 bucks.
>>
>>125280693

Why did you quote >>125280234 ? I never said anything about you buying day one I just dismantled your retarded logic about 2 hours not being enough when you are not forced to play day 1 and can just do whatever you would do before refunds, like checking whatever source you trust and the playing the game to see if it runs well.

Literally no reason to not preorder, there are no downsides.
>>
>>125278986

How the fuck are you struggling in rome 2, it's one of the easiest TW
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>>125280868
>>125281341
>buying the game at full price whose previous game suffered massive problem at launch
How much of deluded kek are you?
>>125281184
I was arguing with the guy who said games are the cheapest they've ever, which they're clearly not
>>
attila is worse than shit
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>>125281838
>buy game full price
>its enjoyable, keep playing
>buy game full price
>its full of bugs and barebones
>refund and wait until its fixed
Wow such delusion, much kek ;)
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>>125281838

So you decided to completely ignore the posts and just go rogue haven't you? Fine by me I consider it a closed argument then.
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>>125282025
>it takes two hours to find all the bugs in the game
You're a fucking idiot
>>
>>125281838
>which they're clearly not
How not?

The price hasn't changed in decades and if you can comprehend what inflation means they are cheaper
Also "sales" that are now standard were not present a couple years ago

>buying the game at full price
If you are not planning on buying on day 1 because you are poor then you are obviously going to wait for a sale and with all the sales and big discounts going on these days it wouldn't fuck matter that preorder DLC exist

You are fucking stupid.
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>>125278986

Increasing difficultly just increases the amount of cheating the AI does.

Welcome to Creative Assembly.
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>>125282109

>you are forced to play immediately and can't just wait like you would have done if you had not preordered

No he's not an idiot, you're just too much of a retard to form a legitimate argument
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>>125278986
>>125280138
You have too many armies which aren't full, you better build 4full armies, and 1-2with less 8unit, use ur champion to increased the level of ur units, and spies to weak other armies. Also reseach technologies to lower corruption.
>>
Games are the most artificial they've ever been
>artificial difficulties
>artificial levels
>artificial unit collision
>artificial AI
>artificial variety
>artificial customization
>artificial prices
>artificial value
>artificial economy
>artificial development
>artificial graphics
>artificial simulating
>artificial bug fixing
>artificial mechanics
>artificial gameplay
There is literally no reason to play any game that isn't Adventure or Pong
>>
>>125281941
How does it feel to have the worst taste?

I'm sorry you can't enjoy the game as much as we do
>>
>>125282109
>he needs to root out every last bug until the game is playable
>he can't wait a few days before playing to see other bug reports
etc etc. You're the only fucking idiot here.
>>
>>125282290

Not entirely true, in rome 2 at least it somewhat improves the battle ai, some guy made some tests years ago
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>>125275648

I PLAYED THIS FOR 800 HOURS AND IT WAS AWFUL

I just don't understand some people.
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>>125275648
I have a few hundred hours in [indie game] that I gave a bad review because the devs are a bunch of shitheads
Why is the indie scene hellbent on killing itself
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>>125282092
Direct me to your post which I've ignored
>>125282183
They're are plenty of games that are way cheaper than Warhammer on release, your inflation argument is a load of wank.
>>125282308
If you want to play chaos then you are going to be forced then aren't you?
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>>125276194

Game came out in 2010, so not really. Easy to go back to once you've had a break from it because it's a good, solid game.
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>>125282779

My main problem with indies is that their games are usually charged with political agendas.

Early access and kikestarter being flawed isn't necessarily indie games.
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>>125282878
>If you want to play chaos then you are going to be forced then aren't you?

nigger are you fucking stupid

like what that makes no sense at all in any way whatsoever

>inflation isn't real
>other games are cheaper that means games are more expensive then they ever were

i can't
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>>125267728
they're pretty mediocre overall but they always spam tons of fucking axes and javelins so you have to be careful
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>>125282878
>If you want to play chaos then you are going to be forced then aren't you?
What the fuck is your problem?
>pre-order a day before release
>don't play it, wait for a week
>if the forums are filled with hate and bug reports, refund
>if not, play for 2 hours and if its still not good enough, refund
I don't even know how you can't understand this.
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>>125282878

1 the ones you replied

2 that doesn't negate his argument, it just means there are cheaper games

3 forced to what? buy the game? or are you still going to ignore all the arguments about how preordering has no downsides? Unless you've been in a coma for the next 4 months you have no reason to buy on release, unless you're also a retard
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I shouldnt have to be a responsible consumer, products should be perfect on launch
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>>125267728
>>125283143

>tfw won a campaign as franks and never met a single slav
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>>125283220
Not him, but does the refund window start from when you preordered or when it releases?
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>>125283684
its playtime
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>>125283684
I'm kind of thinking you are him and just now realizing you are stupid

It doesn't matter, it's time played

Play it for two hours, no matter when, and if it runs like shit you go refund
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>>125283753
There's a two-week window as well, it seemed to be much more flexible when refunds were implemented but I'm not sure now.
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>>125283684
You have 2 weeks to play the game before the window runs out, in those 2 weeks you can also play 2 hours.
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>>125283753

I think he's talking about the 14 days

>>125283684

You could always refund preorders anytime before so I assume it's 14 days from release date, I might be wrong doe
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>>125283951
>Valve set it to 2/2 just to keep the "we cant count to 3" meme alive
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Why is AoC so much more fun than the actual campaign? Meloncat can you put war weariness in fote?
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>>125284143
Not him but war weariness is complicated, CA didn't put it in the main campaign because apparently it took them forever to balance the factions in AoC around it to make it work

That's what they said at least
>>
>tfw it has to be 2 hours because there are literally games that last that long
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>>125284143

>war weariness
>WRE

pls no
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>>125282331
I've only got 2 full stacked armies, one of which is currently stuck with spy losses as an enemy stack comes my way.

I'm going to build a 3rd army when I next play after work tomorrow. It's the income and lack of it that's worrying me. If I had the same amount of armies it wouldn't be so annoying. It's the AI that's cheating with so many armies spawning from a small region.

I'll take your advice on corruption though. I did unlock the tier 1 research in the druidic council tree but my corruption never dropped despite it saying -2% corruption in all provinces.

What would an ideal Iceni army look like?
I currently have access to Spear band,levy freemen,slingers,javelinmen,scout cavalry, chosen swordsman and Briton ballista.
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>>125284143
>no stupid climate change
>less large factions and thus more options in terms of starting positions
etc etc

The only thing it lacks is unit variety.
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>>125284143

CA said they spent a lot of time tweaking the AI to adapt to war weariness in AoC so they couldn't put it in Vanilla Attila.
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Total War: Bad Rats when
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>>125284478
how hyped are you for the new bad rats game
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>>125283087
>>125283220
>>125283356
Didn't take refunds into account when I was arguing desu
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>>125284435
>less large factions and thus more options in terms of starting positions
but that's something R2 has going for it but everything about R2 is shit
this is a paradox
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>>125284842
t. Johan
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>>125284787
we literally kept telling you, you are fucking stupid.

>>125283684
>Not him
definitely him
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>>125284435
I doubt they will but it'd be cool if they added on parts of the map next dlc for Charlemagne like they are doing with warhammer.
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>>125281771
He's not struggling he's asking why the AI is so unbalanced. What he's saying shouldn't be possible. A single village faction spawning that many fully stacked armies and agents and having all 4 slots unlocked with tier 3 and 4 buildings in just 50+ turns. The upkeep alone is deep in the red.

It's one thing if its a walled provincial capital I can see that happening but a village sounds impossible. He might just be unlucky against this one faction. He said south of the walled region across from the Iceni starting location so that sounds like Augusta Trevorum to me. I've played Attila too long so I guess that's just Trevorum at this point in history.
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>using auto-resolve
>ever

So inefficient....
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>>125285407
>So inefficient....
2bh I used it against the Huns and I took less casualties.
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>>125285183

I think you're too used to Attila in rome 2 the player could do the same with few settlements, I know that as epirus I had 2 stacks by turn 8
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>>125285407
against horse stacks it helps
especially when you're trying to get rid of remnants that will just run away and attack again the next turn
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>protect my vassals
>this is what I get for it
JUST
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>>125224520
What does kek even mean anymore?

All of these meme words just get twisted into oblivion.

Your opinion doesn't matter anyways when you just state that.
>>
>>125284427
Ur army should be like that : 6 chose swordsmans+2spear band+3ballista+4scouts cavalry+4slingers
You better discover technology giving you veteran riders and chose spearsmen.
You can also play with 2 ballista. I play with 3for easier sieges.
And ur general should be a heroic riders.
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>>125285951
>this mad at a day old post

fucking frogposters lmao
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>>125285729
Spoletos are a bunch of faggots
>>
>Horde Faction you shit on wants peace.
>You agree.
>Next turn ten armies of them in your lands. Being peaceful.
>Peacefully standing next to your city, peacefully.
>Next turn: We live for war. We want blood.
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>>125284427
Ballistas will save your ass dude it's not uncommon for a unit of ballista to get 200+ kills before an enemy even approaches your main line. I always have 4 Ballista units in an army. 6 infantry, 2 spears, 4 cav(including general with royal cavalry) and 4 slingers/archers
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>Simon's hairline

JUST shave it off, Mann
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Newfag to Total War here, is it worth it to replace all my bowmen with crossbowmen?

Playing Attila
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>>125287756
Crossbows are right click someone "fuck you"
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>>125287756
what faction?
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>>125287272
>the huns are a faction of peace
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>>125285729
just take italy. no need to keep your sons alive
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>>125284143

I dunno if we can, I'm just a unit tinkerer and researcher, the scripting stuff is out of my forte.

While I think 760s-800 wouldn't work 900s onward could work. I'd love something 11th century, just before 1066 or so. http://geacron.com/en/?v=m&lang=en&z=4&x=27.685548634593&y=40.708630640591&nd=-1&d=&di=1055&tm=p&ct=0&ly=yyyyyyy&fi=-500&ff=1500&sp=2&e=0&rp=0&re=0&nv=2

Manzikert, El Cid, the Crusades, the three-way war for the English crown, you might even still have the Buyid rump state in Baghdad before the Turks overtook them, you could have either an Almoravid horde in Morocco or just give them Morocco slightly ahead of schedule.

If I saw/see any aspiring mods with their heads on right and not destined for bloated development hell I'll prob loan the stuff I've done and try to help em.
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>>125248417
it's culture dependent, pretty common to find arabs maxing their 4 wives limit others not so much.
>my wife throws a fit at the mere joke of polygamy
>don't want more wives because I can barely stand one woman nagging me to stop playing vidya
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>>125287353
You should try a triple size unit mod for those historical cohorts
Ballistae just ruin everything
I go with 2 even with regular Ultra unit size because they're so broken
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>>125226468

not to mention that there might be some kind of perils system where X% chance of instagibbing wizard could happen
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>>125230925
Rome 2 is garbage no matter how many mods you use, it needs a complete overhaul. Attila is better but still shit. Just stick to M2, S2 and the upcoming Warhammer title.
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>>125290379
>Just stick to M2

M2 keks hating Rome 2 makes me sort of want to try it
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>>125290739
If you hate M2 I'm sure you will just love the cinematic experience of R2 man, don't forget to post your epic screenshots!
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>>125290953
>Rome 2 fags just care about visuals!
>he says will creaming himself every time MUH UNIT COLLISION doesn't break
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>>125291080
>>125290739
So what's your beef with S2 then?
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>>125291232
The only good thing about Shogun 2 is presentation, everything else is shit

People are blinded by nice visuals and sounds and fail to see the game itself as what it truly is

I still think it's a good game though, it's fun and all for while
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>>125291613
You're retarded bro.
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>>125291613
>It's shit
>I still think it's a good game
make up your mind
>>
Do you want to play as me?
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>>125292015
Do you have any actual arguments outside of "ur retarded bro"?

There is no unit variety
The trade nodes force you to engage with the naval garbage
Realm Divide
The game has no sieges
The battles are the easiest and simplest of any Total War
The map is in parts very restrictive, there's little choice where to attack when there's one line of castles stretching about

>>125292093
I had some fun with it, I think it's alright
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>>125292118
I actually like Pontus desu.
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Can I shed his blood?
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>>125292343
I guess you never played Road to Kyoto or Land of the Rising Sun for FotS.
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>>125292458
Send him to Shodan
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>>125292372
Do you enjoy polka?
>>
>>125292579
Fall of the Samurai isn't the same as Shogun 2 you living meme
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>>125285407

You take less casualites against missile heavy or cav heavy armies when playing lol-no-cav danes.
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>>125293253
Road to Kyoto makes S2 really good too bud.
>>
I'm thinking about giving the shitshow that is Medieval 2 another shot

For SS, is an early or a late campaign better?
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>>125293908
>I'm thinking about giving the shitshow that is Medieval 2 another shot

Please don't, just stick to Rome 2 and Attila like the true TW lover that you are.
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>>125293908
What do you want out of it?
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>>125292118
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>>125294518
Why is this meme
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>>125294915
Anthiocus and co. got all kinds of butthurt when pontus was announced instead of seleucids.
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>>125294079
I like medieval times and I was hoping to understand why there's a group of people that like the game so much, what I've played of the base game and the time I spent with SS weren't all that great.

As far as I understand the early start has a lot of pikes while the later start gets into late medieval era and stuff

I would like to know which one is superior since you can apparently only install one at a time, and I would like to have the optimal experience
Some comments I've read named either one as superior, e.g. "early is just spears" or people hating gunpowder.

>>125294037
I see the Medieval 2 fanbase is still as helpful as ever and totally not a group of thin skinned delusional morons :-)
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>>125295270
>"Ugh, well alright I try that piece of shit if you REALLY want me too, heh"
>expecting nice comments for that behaviour
>>
>>125295270
If I'm going to be honest, I prefer starting late with the Khwarizmians because it's just as hard as WRE in Attila, most of that game is spears and basic stuff until late in the game anyway.
Or you can just play mount and blade if you really hate Medieval II.
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>>125295270
Gunpowder is borked, and so are pikemen
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>>125294915
>R2 nearing its disaster of a launch
>CA knows this
>CA says "Pontus will be Free DLC on launch!"
>TWC gets mad it isnt another greek faction or MUH ARCHE SELEUKIA
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>>125295771
>R2 nearing its disaster of a launch
R2 wasn't even bad, if anything Rome 1 and Empire had worse launches
>>
Could I use a Shogun 2 music mod on Attila?
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>>125295975
people forget Rome was a big disappointment when it launched
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>>125295975
R2 was the single worst TW launch and thats a fact, stop being a revisionist.
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>>125296057
>R2 was the single worst TW launch
Medieval 2 faggot detected
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>>125296057
>R2 launch was worst
R2 was much better than Empire and R1 at launch, the issue is that R2 launch was fresh and recent, not covered by nostalgia, so it lead to the biggest shit flinging in the franchise.
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>>125294915
To better illustrate why people got angry, a supplement to the other posts, imagine you're a kid. You've had a terrible day at school, got beaten up, whatever. At least you expect Mom to give you ice cream after a terrible day. You get home, Mom doesn't want to get ice cream and gives you a PB&J sandwich. It kinda compounds with your day and makes you feel worse, even if it wasn't a bad thing. Now imagine you're a shitty kid and threw a tantrum at your mother, telling her she's terrible and that isn't what you wanted. You are TWC reacting to Pontus.
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New thread when?
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>>125295529
I thought about starting with something more vanilla so I can get into the game before playing more difficult factions, among France, England, HRE etc I thought I would start with England since they have longbows and I won't have to deal with heavy french cavalry unit collision again

>>125295553
I remember broken pikemen from when I played Kingdoms some time ago
Should I play early setting to avoid broken gunpowder?

>>125295505
I'm sorry I insulted your favorite video game, my friend!
Truly it's perfect and not only the height of the Total War series but also the pinnacle of all video games!
Look what fun image I found when I google "Khwarizmians"
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>>125296304
People flipped out Pontus was announced? I guess I understand them being pissed about Seleucid, but how is getting Pontus worse than getting neither??

At least Pontus didn't fold to Rome after one battle like a giant empire of fucking babbies
>>
>>125296505
Pikemen are 'fixed' in SS in that they only have pikes. If you're on 2TPY it takes so long to get gunpowder you'll have abandoned your campaign by that point anyway.
>>
>>125295975
R1 and Empy werent nearly as advertised, though
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>>125296194
>>125296158
Spotted the underage
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>>125296769
I always thought it was Seleucid fanboys sperging out that Muh Arche wasn't the first FLC when they were fully expecting it to be.
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>>125296816
>Empy werent nearly as advertised
Empire had massive amounts of marketing touting itself as a revolution in strategy games
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>>125296947
Ironically you are the one who's underage and can only recall Rome 2's launch

>>125296816
If you think back to 08/09 Empire had an incredible amount of advertising, that shit was everywhere
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>>125296769
The point of that analogy was to explain why they could be angry but not really want Pontus to be removed. I guess I failed. Undoubtedly, Pontus is just as relevant as the Seleucids were, for different reasons. Pontus existed as a unified region and identity for hundreds of years after annexation, they are an undeniable, if minor, power. The Seleucids were a major power but, in a larger historical context, only exist to be the last breath of Hellenisticism before being trampled by Rome.
>>
Empire was the biggest disaster in terms of releases and I say that as a huge gunpowderboo whose top 3 tw games are poopan, fots and empire.
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>>125297174
Yeah there was a lot of hype, but that was me as like a 14 year old.

Naval battles were being pushed, as was full gunpowder.
>>
>>125296014
please respond
>>
There is literally nothing wrong with enjoying Rome 2
>>
>>125297801
Rome 2 is bland, but Attila is a masterpiece and the greatest videogame of all time if I'm gonna be frank
>>
>>125298137
to be honest I agree

I fucking love Attila
>>
Saxons or Langobards?

You decide.
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>>125298671
SAXON
T
R
O
N
K

On the other hand Langobards are fun too, their faction leader looks cool and they get horse hewers which I really like
>>
>>125296014

No, Attila doesnt have any music modding tools
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>>125298137
I didn't see a "no" in there
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>>125298862
Never played the langobards. Are horse hewers just anti-cav inf who aren't spearmen?
>>
>>125296505
It IS the height of the Total War series. Of course it has its faults but the good outweights the bad more so than in every other series entry so far.
>>
>>125298862
Langobards have invincible clubmen and godans chosen, automatically making them the best faction
>>
>>125299146
Pretty much, they hew horses and I enjoy that

I think Langobards get some of the strongest barber infantry
>>
>>125299146

Horse hewers are suuuper good as a support or flanking unit against cav, they'll absolutely get rekt if they get charged head on by t2/3 heavy cavalry
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>>125299206
I don't know if you are shitposting, but I do agree, I really like this video game

Does anyone else really enjoy the music in Attila?

It's not like with older Total Wars where I could pinpoint a couple tracks that are really great, but I really like the music that plays in the background when I'm doing stuff, it's really nice
>>
Am I stupid if I can't win naval battles in Empire/Fall of the Samurai

I just dont "get" it.
>>
>>125298671
Lombards
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>>125299387
No expert charge defense/low mass? I think I see their use, seems pretty niche though since theyd only catch cav if its bogged down. And then why not just use spears?
>>
>>125299681
Langobards and Lombards
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>>125299649
Nah, naval battles are terrible in every TW and most mods make them even more bad because nobody cares about them.
>>
So what's the best Atilla beginner faction? I've heard Frank's are great. I have the celtic and Sands DLC for base game atilla. Also TLR and AoC. Got it all gifted from a good friend.
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>>125299649
No, these have always been a mystery.

At least for FOTS.
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>>125299464
Remember to install the Cavalry Fix for SS, otherwise heavy cavalry is way too strong.
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>>125299649
I do pretty well in FOTS because the AI couldn't seem to figure out how to advance past copper ships in the past few games I played. That being said naval battles are shit in general, with the nadir being Rome 2's ramming fests.
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>>125299704
They got rather strong charge, higher bonus vs cavalry and a lot of damage and that frenzied charge speed ability

Better than sticks at charging into already engaged horse combat

And unlike spears they also do well against other infantry
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>>125299843
Not even a mystery as much as not playing to the strengths of Total War at all. 90% of every victory is maneuvering, and you can barely maneuver. The least-fuckable way to actually play a naval battle is a frontal charge, or else the enemy gets the initiative and you lose. That's more-or-less how an autoresolve is calculated, and autoresolve doesn't require good timing on your part. Literally the only thing naval battles are good for are assassination battles: in a battle you probably would have already won, send your heaviest hitters to take out specific units or generals and guarantee their death, then continue the battle as usual.
>>
>>125299828
Franks are a good choice. Ostrogoths too if you want to play a horde, as long as you take a detour through the ERE territory instead of going straight into the WRE and getting sandwiched between them and the Huns.
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>>125299828
The first campaign I finished was Franks, I think they are a good starting faction
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>>125300185
Civil war has begun!
Spoleto are a bunch of fags and also declared war!
You denied the pope Ravenna and suddenly likes you a bit more!
>>
new thread please :)
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>>125300185
smug hannibal > lazy eyed hannibal
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>>125300495
Every fucking turn
EVERY
FUCKING
TURN
the Saxon separatists start existing and then get destroyed
>>
So, do you guys Festag thing on the Total War Twitter will lead to more reveals?
>>
So why do you guys say viking forefathers is shit? Bad unit rosters or something?
>>
>Be Geats.
>Don't have many units.
>Just keep throwing barbarians at enemies.
>Every town needs fifty bath houses because everyone is dirty as fuck.
>Take over all of Britain and over twenty provinces with slingers.

I don't know what I'm doing.
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>>125301183
Not relevant to the era, meme faction, partially remove one aspect of the ever-increasing difficulty
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>>125301280
how the fuck do you even use slingers

they aren't skirmishers, but they aren't archers either
>>
>>125301183
They basically have the same roster as the Saxons, except less. The Celts, Sandniggers, and to a lesser extent Longbeards, add actual content.
>>
>>125301183
All three have the same rosters plus like two unique units per. The base roster is the same as the Saxons, their faction abilities are shite (geats) too situational (danes, though you'll always win naval battles with armies) and OK(Jutes)

Can't shit talk royal huscarls doe
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>>125301375
slingers are great anti-light units, especially if they have shields
they'll typically win when facing off against archers and skirmishers and slaughter lighter troops
treat them as a hybrid, skirmishers with a long range but unable to fire over allies, so you can go for bigger distances when flanking
at least thats what works for me
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>>125251814
They've destroyed a lot of shit anon from Tombs of prophets to ancient buddha statues, Roman temples to Zoroastrian burial chambers.

They executed the archaeologists at Palmyra then held a gladiatorial fight between captured soldiers before tying them to a pillar and detonating Palmyra upon them.
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>>125301672
A better way is to use them as both a softening unit and a skirmisher. They have too much ammo for just one role.
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Creative assembly teasing us with 12 days of christmas by posting concept images and hints of Warhammer each day.

https://www.instagram.com/p/_PSixiL21y/

>dem vampire counts.
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This is some fucking horse shit.
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>>125302223
A glorious victory for the ages
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>>125302223
I'm pretty sure the first action you should do is just invade spoleto.

What the fuck is the point of these faction bonuses if your clients will always rebel?
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>>125302425
>>125302404
Spoleto has no towns left. The only army they have is that fucking navy. I've killed off their entire navy three times now, and yet their general, despite having no units, survives.
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I'm drunk fellas

someone make a new thread so i can talk about hwo runk I am
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>>125302575
Have you tried assassinating him? That might do it if you get critical success

I haven't encountered anything like that, it might be a bug
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>>125302673
New thread then
>>125302870
>>125302870
>>125302870
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Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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