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Ludwig Edition


At our side, all along >>124900858


>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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KOS
O
S
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or some say KOSM.
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bbgkos anon I'm horribly sorry about my shit ass VIT.
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Why exactly is the one reborn brought forth by the bell women.

Whats the deal with that.
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Ah yes, pale kos/kosm was at our side all along you blasphemous murderer
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>>124920689
It's Orphan of Kos being reborned.
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>>124920623
>some
More like one guy with a bucket on his head
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>>124920647
lmfao not a problem familia, shit is hard i know
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>>124920689
It's just Tower Knight being brought back from the dead.
Don't think too hard about it.
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>>124920754
does he say Kosm?
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anyone wanna join me and another anon beat kos? pass bbgkos
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>>124920991
Please do.

I've got like 600 health during co-op and I hate it.
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>>124920991
Sure gimme 1 min, you by the small ladies?
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Altered my look a little.
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Anyone feel like helping with defiled Amy?
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>>124921141
yeah, ringin there
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>game is still getting that delicious fanart
thanks japan
That one is pretty new and I like it so I wanted to share it with you

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=53972672

pic related must have happened to everyone facing crowsteel the first time
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>>124921268
this is some berserk teir shit.
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>>124921268
doujinshi fucking where
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>>124920308
>A pet book
how horrifying

>>124921259
rung
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>>124921268
>the look in her eye
2Berserk4me

Have best OP image instead.
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>>124921268
cainhurstfag confirmed purple dick.
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>TFW in the lastest DS3 interview Miyazaki mentioned that in bloodborne they intentionally made it difficult to make builds because they wanted weapons to have more personality than players.
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fuckin orphan, ringin again
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>>124921460
Lose the penultimate three images, what's even meant to be happening there? Last one is funny though
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Rest in pieces sweet Grandmother.

In other news the HP ramp when you co-op on Kos is INSANE.
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>>124921268

>female hunter

No thanks
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>>124921639
wtf man I had like 500 vit and was hitting for 200 instead of 500

What level are you Maria? Ringing again btw

>>124921581
I don't understand that at all. Link?
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>>124919953
>>124917516
thanks, I looked at the end and I shaved some more off.
Next time I don't need to ask and know what to watch out for
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>>124921748
I'm at 90. 30 VIT + co-op = 600 health. Also damage getting nerfed to hell and back apparently.
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>>124921748
We're barely nudging its life bar this is kind of sad.
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>>124921976
>30vit.
you like getting 1 shotted don't you?
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>>124921460
>>124921636
the 6 panels after SRRC look like shit tbf (to be frank)
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orphan is a fucking savage, last try before i give up
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>>124921902
Nice, good webm

>>124921976
This is bad, I normally count on just whaling on him until he hits me, then getting behind him and using the rally to gain back health, but I can't get hit more than once now. fuggit im up for the challenge tho
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Lorecheck time

>In the beginning was the Pthumerians who made the labyrinth for the great ones
>they had a Queen who got pregnant with Oedons child but misscarried
>Loran did some shit with the old blood, got fucked
>Yharnam age, Burgers find chalice
>find Old blood in the labyrinth
>Williem too scared to use it, opt for insight instead
>they find Kos, murder villagers for eyes using the Hunters to do their dirtywork, possibly kill orphan and take its cord
>Kos curses them with the Hunters Nightmare to trap all hunters forever
>Maria sudokus
>Laurence splits with Burgers to make the church
>Laurence along with Gehrman call the MP to make the Dream to keep hunters safe from the Nightmare
>the MP comes down, causes Old Yharnam disaster
>Burgers make Rom, Rom hides the blood moon and eldritch shit so people have no clue whats really happening
>Isz chalice is found, they meet Ebrietas
>Choir is made, advances in arcanery and ayylmao engineering are made
>Mensis eventually does their thing
>red moon comes back, game begins

And somewhere inbetween all that was Vilebloods getting rekt and shit. Am I missing anything important?
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>trying to make pick related in character creation
>looks pretty gud
>get in game, looks ugly

Mashing similar face to see if I get lucky
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>>124922094
I don't co-op a lot, and 30 VIT got me through the DLC just fine. Apparently Co-oping needs a VIT gouged build or something. Or at least those 3 HP Caryll Runes.
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>>124922136
actually if you guys i can try until we make it, i just dont want to bother much the two of you
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>>124922219
>>124922219
Let's see how futile it is
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>>124922219
I'm good for a few more rounds I guess. We got it to its 2nd form the very first time, oddly enough.
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>>124922161
shalltear a shit, albedo is best girl
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Bloodletting Beast is probably the biggest mistake in the entire series.
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>>124922413
>being stuck on blb
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>>124922413
blb is fucking easy
>hug his legs
>dodge his downslam and stomps
>wow he has no other moves, gg
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So I never actually thought about this with the dlc.

Micolash and mensis made contact with mergo, we know that. but micolash is constantly asking kos to hear their prayers. Whats that about?

did trying to make contact with kos accidentally drag them into the nightmare with mergo, did they try to meet mergo then when it went bad micolash just started praying to another great one which is why he doesn't even know if its kos or kosm?
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>>124922413
seriously? it's probably the most consistent fight in any CD run
there's nothing strange or unexpected about of any of its moves
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>>124922328
I swear co-oping Ludwig was way easier than this.
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>>124922596
what level are you?
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>>124922573
Mensis was using Mergo as bait to call Kos. Mergo was simply part of the ritual.
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Holy shit witches in CDs are the worst.
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>>124922413
this nigga locking on to blb kek
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>>124922717
you can get witches in cd wtf?
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>>124922717
which witches
heh
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>>124922717
>spawn fireballs that oneshot you before theyre even moving

I hate this shit so much
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I never played this shit game before and only come to these threads for images of the plain doll. Post more plain doll.
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>>124922394
they're both kind crap t bh. Overlord survives almost solely off of the protagonist being a talking skeleton (and the god tier art).
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>>124922717
Their zoning skills are strong, walking into one of their fireballs before they even start moving is usually an instakill in defiled.
>trying to find an opening in a duo of witches casting endless fireballs
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>>124922912
Not if you are going to be a dick about it
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CDs are so much harder now I have a good TV, I can't see anything it's so dark.
>>124922984
I would have fucking screamed.
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>>124922984
This webm makes me flaccid

Here's some Viagra
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>>124922984
kek, but yeah happened to me too. You cannot underestimate the boar. Especially on FRC he killed me a few times with his bullshit
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TIME FOR HUNTERS
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>>124920585
or

K O S M
O
S
M
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>>124922984
>getting greedy
>standing in front of the Pig
Well, that was stupid.
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G R A N D M A
R
A
N
D
M
A
Where are ya, we need you now more than ever
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>>124922394
>Shalltear is a sexual, yuri, vampire loli always seeking Ainz' approval
>Albedo is secretly plotting against Ainz
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>>124922680
Then why does getting "audience" with mergo kill/fuck up mensis.

I remember now that it mentions mergos just part of the ritual so yeah that makes sense but do we even know what they planned to do. Like was it sacrifice mergo to summon kos or hope that mergo can give them power to meet kos or...I dont even know.
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>>124923173
Getting real tired of your shit, Doll
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>>124922984
boar does not fuck around
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>>124922872
pretty sure he's talkin about the ones that spawn the black madmen
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>>124923043
I'm just asking for images of plain doll.
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>tfw you both strike a pose
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You coming back, grandma anon?
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>>124923336
>>124923421
wew sorry, this time for sure though
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>orphan starts jumping everywhere

NO
O
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I have a question about stats and diminishing returns. At +10, Chikage scales S off of Bloodtinge and B off of Skill. Suppose the Softcap of 25 has been reached on bloodtinge but the amount in skill is still set at the minimum. Would I get more damage from putting another point into Bloodtinge with the diminishing returns at an S rank scaling or putting a point into Skill at a B scaling that isn't affected by diminishing returns?
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>>124923353
They were probably going to do tons of experiments with it. The One Reborn may have been them crafting a body for it in our reality, in fact. We know part of their plan was making Great Ones (Mother Brain).
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>>124923564
Got it to half again. We're getting there.
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>>124923353
Because great one shit tends to backfire in unexpected ways. Seeing the eldritch truth killed them, possibly as sacrifice to make the Wet Nurse.

Great ones crave children, so they took the baby hostage to get their attention to they could communicate with them and ask for ascension.
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>summon someone for micolash because everytime I drop down on him for the second part he moves out the way and one shots me with a call beyond
>get to the drop
>they stand there and wait for me to do it

there is literally one single part of this entire fight where I could possibly need your help why are you staring at me cmon man
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>>124923672
I hope you guys are in NG+++ or something.
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>>124923339
>wanting an underdeveloped clingy child
>not a refined mature woman who challenges her master to keep him sharp
Pedophiles everyone
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>>124923110
I like to imagine he did

>>124923128
I did something similar earlier where I had emptied out CD Ebrietas' life right as it finished casting its version of ACB and then immediately canceled into a charge attack that blew me away.
As soon as the animation finished, it realized it died and my corpse was awarded the win.
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>>124923759
poison knives, anon. Thank me later.
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>>124923771
kill yourself
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>>124923821
>>124922394
>>124923339
>>124922161
>animefags

not even once
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>>124923771
I hope you can support yourself, being a college dropout.
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>>124923954
Like you are doing against that boss?
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Aside from my clear fuck up at the end, what am I doing wrong? I'm constantly getting clipped by sickles during phase 2, and it feels like I can't safely approach or even take advantage of my Cutter's extended range.
Is my dodge timing just completely off?
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>>124923173
Postin hoontah.
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>>124923672
What are you guy trying to kill?
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>>124923771
>couldn't even get to yharnam until like two weeks ago
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>>124923771
I asked you earlier why you are so hated in this general, I now have my answer. Why do you have to be such a dick, mang?
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>>124924082
You really think they have time to shitpost while trying to beat a boss? lol
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>>124924138
Parry him
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>>124923386
But you called our game shit... That wasn't nice
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>>124923672
egads

I was nailing it that time, had 17 vials left
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>>124924305
Soon.
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>>124924263
You can parry that grumpy old bastard? My timing must be awful, then because I've tried and it never works. Time to practice.
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>>124924296
Well, it is. Now make with the doll
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>>124924296
DUDE HUGBOX LMAO GET FUCKED ANIME WEEB NERDS WHY HAVEN'T YOU GROWN UP YET LMAO GO BACK TO /V/ STOP KILLING OUR GENERAL
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>>124924239
He flunked out of school back around DaS and has been bitter ever since.
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>>124924138
Dodge to the opposite side of where he is swinging to be safe.
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>>124922984
>walking into one of their fireballs before they even start moving is usually an instakill in defiled.
I walked into one of their fireballs in normal ailing loran, and it oneshot me from full health.
I have 1435ish health.
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Mensis beckoned Mergo in order to reach the Nightmare realm, where they could make contact with the Great Ones that reside there.
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So if you've done everything in NG on a level 15 character, what should you do next?

NG+ or level to something higher? A 50 twink or something?
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>>124924384
Are you alright?
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>>124924368
Try to parry him in his second phase, it's a lot easier than it is during his first phase.
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>>124922984
I'm sorry anon but that webm makes me giggle like a little schoolgirl. The kind of bullshit this game sometimes throws at you is just too funny to get real mad about it
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>>124924438
lvl 36 twink.
>>124924461
I'm tired and bored
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>>124924438
Do NG on a level 4 character. Then do NG+7 with only your fists.
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>>124924384
>>124924375
pls no bullying
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>>124924138
Always dodge towards. I've found this to be true for most Bloodborne bosses. You dodge forward, and the enemy attacks forward, it'll miss. You dodge back, and well.
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>>124924524
>36 twink
retard
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>>124924407
Yeah now that I think about it I've never survived it either.
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What's the easiest way to get a bastard of loran?
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>>124924138
dodge forward and to his left side, work on your dodge timing.

You could also try to R2 him, it should interrupt almost anything he's doing from a safe range
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>>124924573
okay why?
I doubt you'd get summoned that often at lvl 15 bro.
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I think I'm falling in love with the doll.
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this orphan cunt holy shit
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FUCKING PHANTOM DAMAGE ON THAT PLACENTA OR WHATEVER THE FUCK

has anyone figured out what Kos' weapon is yet?
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>>124924207
Can and didn't aren't the same thing, darling.

>>124924239
It's just what I do.

They should ask for help in the general, then take the specifics of their efforts to PSN messages.

>>124924138
>1. Parry him
>2. NEVER dodge backwards if you are going to try to melee him, especially at close range. Instead dodge towards and around him.

If you dodge around behind him them you can avoid most of his follow up swings, instead of dealing with his virtually endless stamina.

Otherwise, just keep back pedalling and parry his attacks with the long wind ups.
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>>124924656
Co-op, get someone to distract the spiders while you kill the bell fuckers.
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>>124924656
Rape a woman
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Imagine being Gehrman in that nightmare and having to be all like "damn,Kos, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tentacles and horrific ayy lmao face. I would totally have sex with you, both me in the nightmare and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck Maria in the Cocktower. Like seriously imagine having to be Gehrman and not only sit in that wheelchair while Kos flaunts her disgusting tentacles in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her stretchmarks and leathery skin, and just sit there, nightmare after nightmare, hour after hour, while she perfected that dance. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone in the Hamlet tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, KOS LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her broccoli looking alium face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been hunting nothing but a healthy diet of Cleric Beasts and heretics and later Fair Maidens for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Yharnam. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get eyes on the inside because of her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with Micolash in the previous months. And then the cosmos calls for another miscarriage, and you know you could kill every single fishman in this Hamlet before the Healing Church could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Gehrman. You're not going to lose your future doll fucking career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>124924664
He meant you're a retard for making a twink not at 43
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>>124924656
Throw her down the stairs.
Loran layer 3
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>micolash uses call beyond while im literally so close im clipping inside of him
>somehow cant be staggered out of it
>get hit by it 50 times at once and die

NICE.
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>>124924524
How exactly do you make a twink at that level? Just base amount of stats for the weapon and then dump the rest in VIT? And why 36

>>124924537
Well, I did regular game at 4, then jumped up to 14 for Chalices so I could wield BB, and now I've done the DLC and don't know what to do next.
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>>124924734
Consider killing yourself
:)
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>>124924407
I guarantee myself 2 deaths for every run to FRC isz
>depth 1 undead giant
>fireball witch in lower pthumeru layer 1

>>124924664
sinister bell maidens spawn at level 30
43 is the highest possible level that will let you invade down to that
anything less is a twink that isn't at full bully potential, which is barely a twink at all
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>>124924734
oh okay so you're just triggered that people are having fun playing with eachother. Fucking autist.
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>>124924734
If you all notice, he keeps dodging me bringing up him flunking out of school because it actually bothers him.

If you ever want to irritate him, just remind him that he is a college drop out.
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>>124924810
>Throw her down the stairs.
I'm pretty sure that would result in a red jelly.
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>>124924829
Dude.

Poison knives.

Alternately molotovs or something.
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>>124920308
kek

>>124924810
kek

>>124922984
kek

>>124923128
kek

funny thread today guis
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>>124924829
Luckily I cheesed him with a co-op partner, he bugged out and never went into the room, closing the doors and did his super nova bullshit.
But I've read online that if you stick real close to him, you won't get hit by his shit, guess that's myth busted then?
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>>124924695
>>124924712
I feel like we should wail on it for like 3-4 hits after he does a big swing then back off and wait for another big opening. Shit's tough mang.
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>>124924734
College dropout
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>you can combo off of brew if your opponent is close enough

Jesus kosm, how majestic
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>>124924993
This is gonna be my last attempt for a while, I gotta eat... Feel free to add me and msg me later if you still need help though

every second R1 from the bowblade staggers him but I keep getting greedy because of that
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>>124924734
look at this college dropout, look at him and laugh

>instead of getting my degree I should shitpost on /bbg/, giving shit advise, posting hunchback waifus and be a real dickwad all the while

just laugh at this guy
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>>124924712
I always thought of it as a giant shrimp desu
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>>124924712
I always figured that was an umbilical cord. Shaped like one and has eyes all over it.
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>>124924905
Okay . . .

. . . considered it. I just can't in good conscious deprive the world of my amazing presence.

>>124924919
No, I am triggered that they are so bad at it.
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>>124924807
thanks. I just see alot of near lvl 30 characters and thought that was the range you should twink at
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>>124925083
Is elemental Saif really a step up from elemental Saw Spear? I didn't know if leveling was worth it.
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>>124925112
It looks like an enlarged third umbilical cord ye, but pink.

>>124925098
Now I'm hungry. Imagine having a shrimp that big
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Excluding the player character, who is the strongest hunter in lore? Could Gehrman defeat Maria or Crowsteel?
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>>124925083
didnt know it was ball of gas that you throw. Neat.
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>>124925131
The reason for 43 is you can't invade players under 30 so it's pointless being any lower
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>>124925131
43 lets you coop and invade down to 30, and since no invasions can occur below 30 its a safe point to stop. You can go lower if you want that early game coop, I guess, but you're not losing out on coop/invasion levels until after 43.
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>>124924829
Beast Roar makes him a supreme joke

>>124924913
desu my twink is mostly a PvE tard, it's fun as fuck trashing Gascoigne for lowbies before he can even change to second phase. I do like PvP but I usually save the twink gear for trashing ganks
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>>124925232
>Excluding the player character, who is the strongest hunter in lore?
Me ;)
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Did you really drop out of college Lucy? That's no good. I smoke pot and play vidyas every day but i still managed to squeeze a degree
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>>124925232
Probably Ludwig.
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>>124925083
Wait, there's another spell besides the eye blast?

Where you get it?
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>>124925212
Shrimp is disgusting.
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>>124925115
yeah but you know they probably didn't give up on college to play video games
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>>124925167
I get a little bit more AR from saif using the same setup I use on my spear, meme spear multipliers are hard to let go of
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>>124925131
I recently finished my twink build at BL34 so that I won't invade any lvl 63+. Your choice though.
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>>124925343
No.

>>124925372
Talk to the guy at the start of the hamlet while you have broccoli for a head.
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>>124925429
Good to know, thanks. I may have to try it out on a different character, then.
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>>124925406
I didn't think I lived in a world capable of this much pleb
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>>124925416
If he's making money off of it should be fine, but if he isn't well then.
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somebody post some sliders for a qt

I can't make a good looking character to save my life
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>>124925462
Are you making money off of video games, Lucy?
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>>124925372
>eye blast
It is and always will be a snot shot to me.
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>>124925510
Shrimp and crab is peasant food.
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>>124925462
You don't have to lie, we knew you were a dropout back in /dsg/

If you didn't drop out, what college did you graduate from?
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>>124925462
You get paid to shitpost? That aint a degree faggot
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dat random dexter, you are pretty opie familia, anyway ringin fron fog, we can make it
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>>124925583
That is hilarious.

>>124925596
And after that I can give you a scanned copy of my photo ID and credit card, right?
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>>124925590
And beef and chicken is what, for royalty only? Please

>I'll eat some chicken
>one creature will feed a family of 4, how nice
>I'll eat some beef
>One cow would feed multiple families, how nice
>I'll eat some 'popcorn' shrimp
>I am death, destroyer of worlds. 50 individual creatures died just so that I may have a snack
>peasant food
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>>124925758
How is that in any way shape or form related to what college you graduate from? No I just want what college you graduated from
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>>124925590
Then tell the president of shrimp and crab to lower the price on it so I can eat it more often.
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>>124924405
>>124924484
>>124924562
>>124924660
Parrying worked like a charm. Tore the old bastard's ribcage wide open. Thank you.
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>>124925914
nice blog etc
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BL98 requesting help with Ihyll Bloodletting Beast Layer 2. Please help me, pw is bbg123
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>>124925963
forgot your trip, lucy.
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Someone said you can ring Gascoigne to fight cleric beast. I can't find his summon sign. I have the bells and 1 insight but no Gascoigne sign in sight. I'm on NG. Do I have to kill Gascoigne first? Is it like Henryk who is only summonable after you gank him with Eileen?
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>>124925967
git gud.
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>>124925914
>like a charm
>1 real bullet left
I can imagine Descendant smirking as a hailfire of bullets rain down on him.
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>>124925963
Don't be a dick Anon. It's unbecoming
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>>124925841
Because it is personally identifiable information.

>>124925914
Congrats. He is the toughest boss in the game, so nothing else should ever give you any trouble.

>>124925994
Wasn't me, kiddo.

>>124925998
I think you need the old hunter bell now.
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>>124925998
fountain area where the ogre is beating on the door

make sure you have old hunter bell
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>>124926037
When you've been using a gatling gun for so long, your finer aiming skills tend to deteriorate.
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>>124925998
He got moved to the fountain area near his daughter. Probably got moved there because new players were getting stuck at the two werewolves and for lore reasons he's closer to home.
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>>124925967
>98
lmao meta sheep enjoy getting trashed by my 148
I'll be right there, gimme a few minutes
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Guys try this:
Whenever you die make 20 push ups 20 sit-ups and 20 spinals as a punishment. You get some training and it makes some adrenaline flow and you do better on your next run.

Of course you could do like 30 or 10 each depending on on your fitness and on how much you die. Have gone through dlc with this method and every boss has been in less than 5 deaths
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>>124926097
>>124926129
Yeah I have the bell. Thanks, didn't think to look that far back for his sign
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What's a good level to stop other than 98? I want to make a Chicago build but want to stay relatively low. Something around 80. Base stats for it and then only pump blt and vit but not sure what to go on the lower levels
Focus on pvp of course
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>>124925914
>I was the one that first said to parry him
>I don't get a (you) when you beat the boss by parrying him
Fuck you too
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>>124926097
Did you forgot we caught you red handed samefagging without trip yesterday? Cant wait for Ds3 so you can fuck off back to /dsg/ and continue being their personal fucktoy
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>>124926149
Thanks, no bully if/when I die.
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>>124925967
ringing
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>>124926249
that was me
I was being ironic :^(
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>>124926248
I...didn't want to reply to the same post twice? You still got a thumbs up, though. That counts, right?
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That's it for me kosbros I gotta eat. Send me a msg later if you still need help
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>>124926149
98 is best meta.

>>124926226
43, 98, and 120/125 are the main meta levels. There is nothing stopping you from stopping anywhere in between those.
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>>124926171
I would have to make it one per death
>>
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We made it boys.
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>>124926171
I just do squats during loading times or when waiting for beckons, only so my legs don't die. Fuck doing 60 fucking things every time I die
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>>124926226
79 is good
80ish lets you get invasions outside of nightmare areas although you're really only gonna see action in yarharhar
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>>124926539
>Battlefront at 6

kek

Weren't they relying on that selling a shitload to make all their money back?
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>>124926316
Shits busted, let me restart my ps4
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So on my first character I did the Cursed Defiled story chalice with 50 vit. Amy was a pain in the ass but otherwise everything was fine.

Now on my 2nd playthrough I have 40 Vit and I get rekt.

Do people really PvE with only 30?
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>>124926373
its good familia, eat well, shit is gonna be ogre over here but we gonna make it
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>>124926657
6 sounds about right, since that is the game's review score.
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>>124926771
I beat it with 30 vit. The trick is using the tail cheese.
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>>124926771

Yup. You just have to not get hit.
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>>124926673
Ringing again
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>>124926835
Me too. It also didn't take me 9 months to beat it.
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>>124926771
>Do people really PvE with only 30?
I beat everything in the game with 30 and a lot of stuff on new game plus. The DLC on NG+ got me to finally up it.
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>>124926949
Savage
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>>124926771
30 vit is fine for PvE but it doesn't fly in pvp at all
See: last week's FC
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>>124926949
It took me like a week once I decided to do it. It would have taken less if I wasn't as busy as I am.
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>>124927207
Didn't you complain about depth 3 rom for like a week though lol
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>>124927075
How much VIT would you need for PVP?
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>>124926892
Sorry anon, will ring again if you need
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>>124927207
Stop making excuses. You were to busy making trannies.
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>>124927274
No. I beat her in like 2 tries then asked about a better melee strategy for beating her because my strategy is super-effective and safe, but it's also very drawn out and tedious.

>>124927297
At least 40, but 50 is best. 50 is also the standard for PvP.
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aight, orphan made me realize how much of a shitter i am, just lost at him with 5% hp
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thinking about doing a bl4 run

should I be scared
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>>124926385
>>124926613
So how is this for a Chicago build them?
http://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/9928
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>>124927297
40 - 50
HP gain starts to dwindle a bit from 45 onwards and the 50th point is hardly efficient

That said, I've won fights by that 50th point but it's up to you where you want to stop
The only times you should consider being okay with having sub-40 is for twinking because the people you invade are shit anyway
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>>124927451
Died when he was three hits left, I hate this fucking boss.

Ringing.
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>>124927520
Only if you want to do depth 5 bosses. But it's actually pretty challenging and fun. Plus who doesn't want bragging rights that the Yharnam stone gives?
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That's it for me for now bbgkos anon, gotta work on other stuff. Godspeed.
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>>124927520
depends if it's a bl4 run* or a real bl4 run.

*with co-op help.
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>>124926171
Might do that for Dark Souls 3. Bloodborne is too twitchy. I just die way too often to do any type of challenge associated with it.
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>>124927497
Meh

I would go LS-50/16/10/14/50/06 or LS-46/20/10/14/50/06 instead.
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>>124928046
git gud.
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I've been ringing my small res for ihyll BLB for a while
Did you already beat it?
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> Fighting Ringwraiths for first time in something like 6-8 months.
> Mfw the fire chucking guy summons giant snake heads from the ground to maul me

THAT'S NEW RIGHT?
NO WAY HE DID THAT BEFORE.
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>>124927902
Using co-op is legit dude. It's part of the game
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>>124928202
he very much did that before
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Anyone able to help me with story lower pthum chalice layer 4 boss?
Ringing at lamp
Pw: vgbbg7
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>>124927451
Thanks for the carry
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>>124927520
It's really not that bad. Only the Chalices/DLC/a couple late bosses will make you want to tear your hair out. When I finished the story, looking back, I realized it wasn't so bad. Except Gehrman. Holy fuck he took me a lot of tries. Thank god I love his theme/fight a lot
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>>124928202
They've always done that dude
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>>124928202
How they fight slightly changes based on what order you kill them in and if you get them all low before killing any.
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>>124928202
He always did that.
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>>124927297
50-65

65 + all hp runes gives you 1,500 hp when invading

>>124926171
>>>/fit/
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Someone please help. Is a strength skill bloodtinge build (28/32/x) build completely retarded and unsalvagable? I just wanted enough str to fuck around with the gatling gun.
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>>124928376
>>124928362
>>124928354
>>124928271

This is so strange to me.
I've fought that boss at least 5 times across different runs with different builds each time, yet never seen that attack until now.
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>>124928458
>65
>not 99
Get out, underleveled shitter
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>>124928209
It's legit but people do it without, so why do it with? You'll tell people and they'll be like 'Oh wow, that took me long enough on my own at level 80!' And you'll say 'Oh...well I was co-oping...it's legit, its part of the game...' And they'll say 'Oh...I see...well, thats still cool anon, good job.' and they'll mean it and they'll be correct, but imagine if it was no co-op! The unmitigated success!
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>>124927297
You don't need VIT if you don't get hit
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bbgkos guy here, i give up for now, but thanks so much to all the kind anons that tried help me, godspeed you all
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>>124928285
Anyone wanna help?
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>>124928556
I think he was being sarcastic. It's part of the meme of bl4.
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>>124928663
Kill yourself you living failure
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>>124928665
I've been searching but nothing yet
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>>124928481
You get the Bloodletter later on in the DLC, which is pretty ridiculous.
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>>124926835

Not even there yet, just shocked that I get oneshot by KotOL.
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>>124928481
You can got to 120 and go: MV-48/20/40/40/16/06 to play with the Gattling Gun and the Church Cannon.
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>>124928689
I'll meme my dick in your ass fuccboi
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>>124928802
>120 shitter meta
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>>124928663
We'll do it one day

>>124928725
wow rude
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>>124928663

What's your BL out of curiosity? My dmg and vit was completely shit.
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>>124928481

I have one with 30 Str, 13 Skill, 40 Vit, 49 BT. Seems pretty ok to me, not sure it's top tier tho.
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>>124928737
Still nothing?

Can anyone else help?
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>>124929080
What's in it for me?
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>>124928663
Oh, you did not kill him? I thought you got him in the run where he was 2-3 hits from death. I did not ring after that.
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>>124929183
Sexual pleasure
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>>124928897
His build is really beyond salvation for a 98 meta without heavily gimping himself.

But if he wants to try it he could go: MV-45/30/32/16/06
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Hey guys question on my build. So I was planning on going 50/25 strength arcane. But I'm really enjoying using the holy moonlight blade. I also want to use beast claws and wheel and I know they're primarily strength. How much more damage would going 40/23/25 strength, skill, arcane give me for holy blade. In comparison to just grabbing the 50/25 and being able to use the wheel and claws. Should I just go for the 50/25 so I can basically use all the strength weapons? I know it's not a super optimal 98 build but I just wanna have a finished build that isn't skill
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>tfw Bloodborne is my first Platinum
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>>124929319
>MV-45/19/30/32/16/06
Fixed, forgot to add in End.
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>>124928665
I'll help, give me a minute
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>>124929240
Sorry, I'm not gay.
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>>124929518
Im a girl you retard no im not
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is 33 vit too low for bl 80 pvp? (using chikage so i got some healthdrain on top of that)

i´m only invading and people with gemmed weapons pretty much one or twoshot me
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>>124929371
>Getting platinum on any game
What's it like living with autism?
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>>124929360
For beast claws and MLGS you want a quality build, they are both strength based quality so something like 30/20 str/skill should set you up well. For wheel I'd make another build
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>>124929624
yes, especially if you are invading, because you will be playing against the level 98 meta, and they will have 50 vit. Not to mention you will get one shotted at 33 vit.
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Thanks whoever just helped me
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>>124929732
Should I just stop leveling arcane then and go 40-25 str skill and the rest in vitality?
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>>124929621
>>124929240

I can help you when I get off work

then you can help me get off ;)
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>>124929651
>90% of the trophies are defeat _____
>the others are get all ____/ get highest tier_____

in which one of them requires you to go through chalice dungeons. Heres your (you) tho
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>>124929857
If you really want to thank me you should post a cute image
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>>124929651
>Little bitch is mad cause they can't do it
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>>124929624
>33vit when my 50vit 98meta can one shot you.
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Why on earth does lower loran layer 2 have a gigantic side area with literally nothing in it but you can reach the lever in 10 seconds.
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>>124929651

I got BB's platinum by accident, the achievements don't really have you do anything special.
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>>124929651
The only platinums that are autistic are the ones that make you kill 150 of x with thing y for half the trophies. Otherwise it's making you complete the game 100% (some times not even 100%)
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>>124929624
yes at BL80, your build should be: NS, 40-50 vit/8/10/14/40-50 blt/9, assuming you're pure BLT
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in the c/f/r isz dungeon i made theres a +300 frenzy resistence rune and a +150 all type resistence rune, is that good enough to keep it open or can i close it without problems?
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>>124929371
>tfw Bloodborne is your only game and platinum.
Ps4 life huh.

Didn't take too long either. I platinumed on my first character in 40 hours across three NG's.
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>>124929998
This.

Post your butt
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Second part of the Fishing Hamlet sure is fun.
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>>124930435
Better than the first part anyway.
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Just beat Vicar Amelia and went into the graveyard thing and those sickle wolfmen are fucking cunts. Also what's behind those 4 guys with the guns in that one spot? There's like 2-3 yellow orbs and I'm wondering if dying to them a bunch is gonna be worth it.
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>>124926037
tbf he's on a str build so weak as shit viscerals
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What's a decent MHS build look like.
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>>124930529
Also I'm trying to put most of my points into STR, people keep saying ludwig's blade is the best strength weapon, or one of them, but my saw cleaver does more damage. I have them both at +3 as well and the stats on my ludwig blade are higher than the saw cleaver. What gives?
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>>124930561
over-leveled.
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Just found the Amygdalan Arm and now I'm regretting going SKL.
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Looking to make a STR/Bloodtinge build.

Looking at 40 vit, 20 end, 35 str/tinge, and base everything else using the Milquetoast start.

Is this okay? I want to use stake driver/cannon/kirkhammer/gatling gun.

I also kinda wanted to make a Quality build, but is that viable in this game, using guns only to parry?
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>>124929879
Depends, the Arc adds a lot to the MLGSs R2s and L2s but the rest of it's moveset is qual based. You would need to be around 40 arcane for the arc stuff to be noticable though
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>>124930764
I'll tell you how it is if you give me a source
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>>124930676
Apparently serrated weapons get bonus damage against beasts.

Ludwigs is the best Quality weapon. Axe is the best Str weapon.

>>124930764
A Quality build with 8 Blt is amazing.
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>>124930529
They are guarding bullets and bone ash
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>>124930676

It's not a strength weapon, it gets equal benefit from strength and skill.
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>>124930853
>He doesn't instantly recognize the artist
lol
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>>124929879
Got 50 ARC with 30 STR and 15 SKL for MLGS. 640 AR with bad gems, just get high ARC, put STR higherbthan SKL and youll do fine
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>>124930853
>doesn't know the artist
You don't deserve it.
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>>124930853
ShindoL's cultural academy.

>>124930875
I have 9 bloodtinge due to my start, is it really relevant? I'd guess just move the 35 in Tinge to Skill.
>>
What does everyone think of Hunter's Nightmare?

Research Hall and Hamlet were honestly fucking great areas, but I never see anyone say anything about the Nightmare. In terms of layout it's fairly simple and basically goes in a big oval, but I was surprised with how much I enjoyed the content of the area. All of the infighting, those monstrous Executioners, the river of Blood, the machine gun traps, the dead Amygdala, and I really like how it played on your expectations based on real Yharnam. That Dark house with the wheelchair guy scare gets flipped with him already dead and activating a molotov near the oil pots when we grab the item. Thought it was neat. Also Ludwig is a GOAT boss. Was thinking the area would turn out like Royal Wood but it's much, MUCH better than that.
>>
>>124931361
I loved it. River of blood was sick. I love how the dlc mirror's the base game. Half hunting/Half lovecraft.
>>
>>124931361
Liked it more than the DS2 dlc areas, at least. Those were a lot bigger but had like 1/3 of the amount of detail.
>>
>>124931361
I love Nightmare, it's an excellent area with interesting shortcuts, a bunch of secret areas and unique enemies that are used sparingly. Every type of encounter is there, the devs always keep it mixed up. Map design is snakey and intriguing at every turn
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>>124923635
Not sure if you're still around, but Chikage only uses either blood OR skill depending on which mode you're using. You get more damage out of it by going full 50 BLT and only using the tricked version. Getting skill to 25 as well is a good idea though for the options it opens up.
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>>124931180
8 is enough to let you use the repeating pistol which does decent damage with BMA for low stats. I usually use it to finish off Hot dog on my str characters.
>>
>>124931361
I think it does a good job of setting up that you're not in a real place, better than the frontier or mensis, it's less structured since it seems like it's a giant shared Nightmare formed by many people, walking up to the cathedral, turning a corner and then the cathedral being off in the distance was a little jarring when you first see it, then you never quite get to it and suddenly you're in the clock tower of the cathedral
>>
>>124931013
>>124931079
Im sorry I dont looks up doujinshis 24/7 and know every artist just by looking at them. And if I knew the artist I wouldn't be asking for a damn source.

>>124931180
first off the bloodletter wont do too much damage with 35 tinge. you'll maybe be getting about 300 per swing with all 27%. So I wouldn't think its worth without at least 40-50 tinge.
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>>124931361
Initial part was alright, river of blood was cool but too short.

Research hall was great, plip plopping all about.

Hamlet is where its at. I put it up there with Latria in terms of atmosphere. Everything is just so terrible there.
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>>124931361
I love settings where it's like the real world but things are off or in the wrong spot, like how dreams work in the real world.

Like how it's a dream created of an area the Hunters, but being a dream areas are crushed together in ways that make no sense
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>>124922984
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>>124932049
You know you can kill the clones with a single bullet, right?
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>>124931361
It was really cool but I desperately wanted more. The river of blood segment is awesome, I love all the crooked buildings and alleys, and I loved that creepy fucking cave. But the first segment, the cathedral ward segment is so small. I wish it had some side alleys or paths, if only for more excuses to have beasts vs hunters vs gigantic guards. Aesthetically its amazing, in terms of the DLC its definitely my least favorite, but that doesn't make it bad.

It does contain the two best boss songs in the game, so that's something it has going for it
>>
>>124932252
that was from the first time i ever fought that boss

but yeah i do now
>>
>>124932296
>no path down to the tomb of oedon where you can encounter beastcoigne as a regular mob
>>
What if the DLC had been shitty instead of amazing
>>
>>124932462
>no path down the hatch of Burger-worth to uncover the unseemly secrets of the school
They fucked up insanely hard.
>>
Iosefka makes my dick twitch.
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>>124932537
Do you really care about the answer to that question?
>>
>>124932537
Riots everywhere

Honestly in terms of sheer content, I think this is the best individual DLC pack (although taken as a whole, I think I prefer the level design of the TLC Dark Souls 2 pack). The amount of weapons (many available really early, fixing the issue of lack of early game weapons), the new covenants, the bosses and variety of levels really makes it fucking amazing.
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>>124932462
>No sewers filled with dogs with crow heads, crows with rat heads, and rats with dog heads all bum rushing you at once
Seriously, what was the deal with those things in mensis?
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>>124932649
yes
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>finally finished pic related
It's time for the farm.
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>>124933047
congrats, go get 3 rocks and best runes b4 farming
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>>124933047
>mfw used the video and finished CDs over the course of 2 days
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>>124933047
>>124933047
If you are into NG+, you just need to get to chalice 3 collecting mats and after that you dont have to bother with materials right? I'll update this now if someone can confirm
>>
What's the part you dislike the most about bloodborne ?

Yahar'gul for me, I HATE respawning enemies
also I don't like how it looks
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>>124930420
I'm close to platinum, I just need to kill Yharnam.
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neat, I kept skelly alive somehow
>>124933642
still need red jelly from isz or lower loran, I believe
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Anyone wanna come down and beat lower pthemeru rom with me?
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>>124934062

How have I not found that guy?
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>>124933047
I actually finished yesterday on my blt character. Is Bloodletter just fucking amazing or did chalice bosses get nerfed? Because that was the easiest chalice run I've ever had. Evelyn-spam really is a satisfying way to finish off bosses.

Now its time to strap in for the grind
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>>124934062
What does he say?
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>>124933835
viscerals scaling with skill. Makes no sense (ripping someone innards out would take strength if anything) and puts literally every other build at a disadvantage for healers.
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>>124933835
The Brainsuckers.
Holy shit.

I lost like 16 insight at once to the Upper Cathedral Brainsucker Mafia yesterday.
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>>124933642
you need to get the red jelly in isz, that's the only mat you need after chalice 3

order is
1. chalices up through 3 as normal
2. buy blood 5, do isz, get red jelly, save it (don't make FRC isz), ignore all further mats
3. buy bastard of loran, do defiled and ihyll
4. yharnham stone lets you by red jelly, so make FRCs

you can completely skip Loran but if you have to do it you should do it last since Stone also lets you buy blood 4
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>>124934248

It doesn't help those fucks are super resistant to physical damage.
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>>124933835
Mergos loft. Save for brain faces there isn't anything new or cool to fight. Just pigs and Shadows.
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>>124934106
please help...
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>>124933835
Depth 1-3 dungeons
Farming ritual blood 3, 4, and 5
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>>124934183
nothing unfortunately, just "..."
>>124934142
He dies to ludwig if you're not careful, here the one talking in the ludwig cutscene btw

I found about him from vaati's vid
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>>124933835
Have to revisit the Dream to restock/travel elsewhere

PvP:
-Invader health nerf
-Boss has to be alive to be invaded
-Can't choose who you invade in a crowded area

A shame because mechanically it's by far the best PvP in the series
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>>124934248
>>124934315
I take this back, brainsuckers are the worst thing
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>>124933835
The camera, honestly. Monster Hunter is still the only game that somehow figured out how to design fights with large scale enemies without turning them into a fucking onscreen mess or a fully scripted QTE fest.
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>>124934358
uncle henryk
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>>124934142
>>124934183
he just laughs, but its still cool to have him around. Who knows he might drop a spell or somethin if youre in some kind of form like the byrgenwerth guy
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guys you have any /fashionable/ attire combinations?
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>>124934408

Well shit he's just a bloody exposition hollow.
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>>124934493
There are still a good number of monsters where you spend 90% of the fight with the camera crammed against their scaly ass.
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>>124934493
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>>124933835
Winter lanterns
Weapon badges don't carry across characters
Gems are locked behind autism grinds
PvP wasn't designed well in this game
WINTER LANTERNS

Also
>Disliking Yarhagul
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>>124934265
Thanks, I'll start on it after this summon
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>>124934303
Use thrusting damage
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http://strawpoll.me/6230302

important please vote
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>>124934629
ugh im trying to maintain my hype for the pc release here anon
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>>124933835
Probably how some enemies and some attacks don't seem like they'd do a bunch of damage but do. Like the spiders and how they just gently shove you aside with their furry arm and HOLY FUCKING KOS A QUARTER OF MY HEALTH IS GONE. And the Abhorrent Beast's attack where he sorta pushes gently with his two hands sorta quickly does a ton. I don't mind taking a fuckton of damage but don't hide it behind a spider hug or a light shove from a beast.
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>>124934062
Am I understanding this correctly?

The Hunter's Nightmare is created by Kos (or Orphan of Kos, or whatever) and functions as an eternal prison for the Hunters (or essentially anyone who consumed the Old Blood. The Hunter's Nightmare keeps them trapped forever and they have endless hunts.

If that is correct, I have some questions:

1. Those people Ludwig is feeding on, and all the bodies in the river of blood; are those just townspeople who took the blood? Surely not everyone is a hunter who got sent there, right? Does that mean that we encounter NPCs who died in the HK?

2. How do people get sent to the HK? Is it just when they die? Or do Amygdalas have to carry them to the nightmare?

3. Why does killing Ludwig free him from the HK? Why wasn't he revived like everything else?
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>>124934564
Crowfeather Garb and Constable's Trousers
Khaki Haori,Henryk's Trousers, And Harrowed Hood
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>>124933835
chalice dungeons

i make a lot of characters, so it's like the bane of my existence
also i don't like how important vit is
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>>124934660
At least Winter Lanterns don't permanently take away a finite resource of yours.
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>>124934660

Once you get the parry timing down Winter Lanterns become less of a threat but frenzy is still the most bullshit thing in the game for me.
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>>124933835
Multiplayer connectivity is shit

Unless you're talking an area I dislike most.. then I'd have to go with the Nightmare of Mensis.. it's kind of a pain in the ass having to run through that poison swamp, but overall I like the areas in this game.
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>>124934728
Old Yharnam is peaceful, its inhabitants, kind.
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Amygdala arm would be much cooler if it actually looked like an amy arm instead of a half eaten chicken wing
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>>124934691
also, next time you run depth 3, i'm pretty sure there's enough blood 4 there to avoid farming. i think there's blood on the ground (no chest) in the ultra-large garden room on the elevated central platform. can't confirm this though
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defiled amy anoyone? pass is bbg321
pls halp
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>>124934773
>How do people get sent to the HK?
When they get blood addled, Hunters of Hunters kill them and send them there.
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>>124933835
Chalice dungeons

Boring RNG crap with almost no incentive to go through.
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>>124934660
>Weapon badges don't carry across characters.
how is that a huge issue, also you can get gems in like 2-4 hours
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>>124934728
I befriend him only to murder the shit out of him.
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>>124934815
Insight is easy as shit to get.
>>124934823
Don't care that you can parry them, having them tied to a system where you frenzy just by looking at them means you are fucked 90% of the time and have to use a sedative or lol 2 bloodvials cause you were near them.

Having to dumb insight to deal with them is ass, they are ass.
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>>124934815
>insight
>finite
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>>124934838
This is why I never liked Priscilla. Yeah they sure are peaceful alright, those murderous cunts I just spent the last hour or two getting slaughtered by.
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can someone come down to lower pthemeru and help me kill rom

pw is bbgrom
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>>124934728
>No option of make him friendly for the best gesture in the game then kill him right after for being a bad hunter and to get his hat
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>>124934773
i thought moon presence created hunters nightmare
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>>124934870
Interesting, I don't suppose anyone can confirm?
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>>124934850
>he hasn't figured out the anatomy of the Amydalan Arm

The sharp bladed bit? That's a sharpened finger bone. The rest makes sense if you notice that.
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>>124934958

They are the most ass.
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>>124934815
pvp or coop for a while and you'll have more insight than you know what to do with.
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>>124934905
But Simon isn't blood addled and he's stuck there. Same with weeb in the cell.
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>>124934929
Because a lot of the weapons in this game are gated behind half the content of the game. So instead of playing with a weapon you want to use through the whole game you spend 50-60% of your playthrough using the Sawspear cause you have to trigger events to open up the areas/bosses.
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>>124935001
you did invade their peaceful land, and clearly with murderous intent.
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>>124935053
I can see it, but it still looks like a chicken wing
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>>124935090
Some people can be taken there or visit there voluntarily. Defector Antal, Yamamura, the Player Character and Simon are good examples.
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>>124935112
you want stuff you unlock on one character to open up on your other characters? fuck off
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>>124935037
No he created the Dream.
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so i just have to run past djura and not touch a single beast? even ones he can't see?
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>>124935162
inorite?
I mean, I like the thing,it's just.
Does it have to look like a gnawed chicken leg?
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>>124934929
>Want to use weapon
>have to play through half the game to unlock it because its gated behind a later boss
There are a fair amount of weapons that you unlock that you use for Mensis and thats it. It'd be a more fun game if I could say load up a fresh guy and then if I farmed the echoes, use a Reiterpallash through the entire game.
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>>124935112
thats kind of how it is with every other souls game ever. Could you imagine if you got the exact weapons immedietly? You might as well be asking for a mule which would also be nice but that leads to cheating fucks.
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>>124935257
yeah, my bad. got mixed up
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>>124935310
Beasts he can't see don't count, but it's better safe than sorry.
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Anyone else get reminded of webm related when fighting Living Failures?

I wish the Lumenflower Tree had started glowing and become the boss after you beat them, like that big Metroid Prime 1 flower boss.
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>>124935090

I don't think he's stuck there, I think he's pursuing church secrets like the player is.
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I need help at layer 3 lower pthemeru rom please help
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>>124935310
you'll been seen either way and can kill beast. just dont up his tower where he's at to befriend him later on
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>>124935310
you can kill beasts to your hearts content, just don't kill Durja.

Then come back after seeing (or killing) Paarl. Start at BSB's lamp and walk your way back and climb up to Durja, he'll be friendly.
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>>124935090
Maybe he was blood adled in life and forgot once he was trapped in the dream for god knows how long.
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>>124935310
the first time you go through?
it doesn't matter

you can even attempt to kill him and then befriend him later
anything else is misinformation
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>>124935224
>the Player Character
>not calling the PC the Good Hunter
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>>124935249
How does that even remotely effect you at all? Who cares? You still need the upgrade materials, and gems to even argue that its an issue.
>>124935326
Souls games have weapons that are analogs to the builds you want to make. Want to make a bloodtinge character? Good luck, your only option is to use a saw up until over halfway through the game cause the only option is the rifle spear.
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>>124935431
I'll be there in a sec, what's the pass and where are you ringing?
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So is there a general strategy to Ludwig, or is it mash B like a madman?

This nigga intense.
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>>124935467
>(or killing) Paarl.
If you can kill him the first go, you can do the run from his lamp, instead of BSB
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>>124935386
Of course I forgot the webm
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>>124935492
>implying that's the character's name
You're not the "Good Hunter" just because the blowup doll says so.
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>>124935249
>m-muh elitism
At the end of the day it doesn't matter, all weapons are at the same relative power-level at all stages of the game. How would the game be any less fun if you had MORE OPTIONS to start.
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>>124935542
Ringing outside the gate that you need to unlock and password is bbgrom
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i CANNOT BELIEVE they added a bunch of npc summons to easy as fuck bosses, but none for logarious

lucky he goes down like a bitch to bone ash evelyn and parries
weirdly, he changed to his second form moveset but never once attempted to power up
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>>124935680
Ringing now.
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>>124935640
>>124935504
maybe adding that fuck off was a bit too much senpai
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>>124935585
once you fight him a few times he does become easy
but the first few it seems like he was just spazzing out erratically
i can help hosts and only use like 3 vials a fight
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>>124935585
Hit his left side and some of his attacks miss if you're in smashing his cock.
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>>124935504
Yeah but the starter weapons/spells arent all powerful too. Plus you wont even have the requirements to the weapon when youre just starting off. To reiterate, yes it would be nice to have your desired weapon at the beginning but why not all clothes, runes, gems etc. You get what I'm saying.
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>>124935012
I'll be home in like an hour

If you are still stuck I can help
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I never was really the wizard, mage, necro or magic user overall in souls games, but goddamn is it enjoyable in BB
I doubt even Ds3 will be able to make it as good as BB.
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>>124935857
This; out of all the DLC bosses I think I've gotten gud at fighting Ludwig, just from all the coop. I must have helped like 50 hosts at this point.

Still so bad at Laurence though.
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>>124935932
I hear what he's saying though. There ARe some shit that's so deeply placed in the game that you basically don't get any time to enjoy it once you earn it.

>Burial Blade
>Kos Parasite
>Chikage
>Bloodletter
>Church Pick
>Simon's Bowblade


I know you can kill Simon early. That's not exactly easy or simple. It's still effectively a Fishing Hamlet item.
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>>124935012
Anon there are TWO npc hunters you can summon for Rom.
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bloodtinge build

should i use my chikage for ludwig or stick with my saw spear and fire paper because it's serrated and unloads the fire buff quickly?
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>>124936068
>that feel when I'm still, even after fifty tries at Ludwig, both as a host and as a summon, I'm still not that good with him
>one time I almost killed him solo, but I ran out of vials
Maybe one day.
In the mean time I'll just have to keep trying to help others.
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>>124936186
Is Church Pick really that far? You just have to beat Ludwig to get it, correct?

And I like that killing Simon is a bit of a challenge. Still pulled it off at bl30, it is doable.
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>>124935932
Which is why it isn't an issue at all, the only thing changing is you upgrade the weapon you want to use along the way instead of a placeholder.

Stat reqs in this game are very low, the few that would actually be gated are few and far between.

Which is why I would have loved the option to have them purchasable from the start, only thing that changes is you have more fun while playing the game instead of this middling bullshit where you use the same fucking weapon for half the game and use the one you wanted to, to kill 3 bosses and its the end.
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>>124935932
i don't get what you're saying. weapons are gameplay defining and it's a shame a lot of that gameplay is only seen on NG+. the other items you describe are all about getting stronger and no one is asking to be strong at the start of the game, they're just asking to be able to do a BL10 burial blade character or w/e
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>>124936260
Have you asked here for help?
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>>124936186
>That's not exactly easy or simple
yes it fucking is

if you're getting the bow, you ARE a bt build meaning a minimum of 25
2 uses of the snake whistle and then a +6 bone ash evelyn will kill him EASILY

fight lasts 2 minutes
he also does fuckall if you have the knight set for bt resist
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>>124936297
>You just have to beat Ludwig to get it
And then clear Research Hall almost right to the end. You can't get the Pick without the underground cell key. That key is only grabbed after lowering the stairs.
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>>124935757
Whoops! I got oneshotted by the spell.
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>>124936297
You need to at least get into the research hall to grab it. Either raise the stairs to make a leap of faith.

>>124936407
You can actually jump to it from the top of the ladder.
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>>124936407
>Clearing research hall
>Key isn't accessible until after moving the stairs
But that's wrong
You know that ladder in the dark room with the patients begging for death? You can get there right when you first enter the research hall
You can jump off the top of that ladder and land right on the cell keys
Literally right after ludwig
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>>124936407
>That key is only grabbed after lowering the stairs.
you can get it as soon as you enter the hall. enter the semi-hidden dark side room with the talking patients, climb the ladder, and then jump down to the key
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>>124936407
Clearing Research Hall is easy, though. You just run by stuff. Once you lower the stairs and get the key, you just run back and grab the pick.

You only have to kill one enemy in the DLC to get the pick, and that enemy is Ludwig.
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>>124936186
>burial blade
its a skill weapon so you can use the saw spear at the start of your build

>kos parasite
isnt there a whole guide on which weapons you should use up until CDS?

>Chikage
>bloodletter
I used the tonitrus and axe up until chikage. Because the tonitrus is just lolmoredamage and using beast blood pellets made fighting logarius pretty easy

>church pick
see burial blade

>simons bowblade
Use the chikage breh. I killed him when I had 19% gems from mensis.
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>>124936475
>You can actually jump to it from the top of the ladder.
Oh sure, that's a thing too. But you still have to fuck around in the hall a fair bit to get it. It's worse than MHS and that's my cutting off point for whining about placement.
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>>124935610
Chosen Undead isn't the Chosen Undead's name either, but that's still what he's commonly known by.
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>>124936368
Oh I'm already past Ludwig, I got some help from some Hunters that knew what they were doing. At least that time.

I'm just saying, one of these days I'll git gud enough that when I make my BLT character I won't need the help.
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>>124936526
>>124936540
someone post a webm of this key jump
pls

from the start of the research hall level if possible
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>>124936596
It's not about lacking options. It's about them being obtained so late in the game there's hardly any game left to tackle with them. Did you even read my fucking post?
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>>124936610
>But you still have to fuck around in the hall a fair bit to get it.
No, it takes less than two minutes to get it from the research hall lantern. I just made a skill build recently. Saif and then Church Pick are early game godsends, because beating Ludwig is easy with summons.
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>>124936610
>But you still have to fuck around in the hall a fair bit to get it.
Go up the stairs, and climb up the ladder to the raging guy, and then jump.

I think you have to open one door to get to it.
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>>124936596
>its a skill weapon so you can use the saw spear
literally what everyone is complaining about is having to use the saw spear

>isnt there a whole guide on which weapons you should use up until CDS?
yeah. the weapon you use is the saw spear

the whole point of this complaint is that the first half of the game is played every time with the same few weapons. telling them to just use those weapons misses the entire point
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>>124936416
We'll get him this time, third time's the charm
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>>124931361
>dead amygdala
Shit I missed that. Pics?
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>>124936738
who cares about clearing the rest of pve with your desired weapon? Getting the desired weapon is for pvp pal.
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>>124936885
It's more than likely a statue.
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>>124935090
>Same with weeb in the cell.
He may not be blood addled, but he's addled all right.
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>>124936860
Alright, I'll be right there
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>>124936885
>Best fags forever caught it
>chances are most of /bbg/ didn't because we were looking at the mobs.
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>>124933835
>30% health penalty
>luck based parry
>completely unpunishable parry miss
>27% gems are too easy for farm
>27% are overpowered
>BELL FUCKIN SYSTEM. You can nonstop co-op in CD but in same time you can't invade anyone
>No covenants and any rewards.
>CD don't share progress with all characters
>CD were fixed after year of fuckin game release
>CD are useless because 27% are easy to farm for non ARC characters
>CD pvp is useless
>no new CD content in DLC
>hacked leaderboards
Today I was invaded by HoH three times. And all three times they silenced bell. No rewards = no motivation for RP
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no one up for defiled amy?
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>>124936885
Its right in this segment, with the guns. Unfortunately you can't see it in this picture.
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>>124936923
>Getting the desired weapon is for pvp pal.
oh god
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>>124936854
yeah thats how its always been with making a build with every souls game. Of course you dont get your desired weapon early. Or maybe you do depending on what you want.
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>>124936738
Yes and?
Wanting to do a burial blade run through of the game is like wanting to do a gwyns greatsword run through on dark souls, you can't do it ng+
Well, with bloodborne you actually can do it for atleast half of ng if you spelunk for it, iirc it shows up in lower loran and you can get there pre rom

The point is, the other souls games had plenty of late game only weapons
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>>124936596
>people are talking about how ass it is to use the sawspear
>lol use the sawspear

>I used the chikage, a gated weapon to unlock the bladebow by using gems I got AT THE END OF THE GAME

You are missing literally LITERALLY the entire point of this argument.
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> Tfw can't decide between Normal, Uncanny or Lost Holy Moonlight Sword.
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>>124937029
why would you make a new build for pve, thats incredibly pointless.

>>124936998
>luck based parry
lol

>easy to farm 27% gems
not according to everyone else apparently

>CD don't share progress with all characters
I thought they were easy anon?
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>>124936998
>CD don't share progress with all characters
yes
we need more twinks
fuck new players lmao
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>>124937221
Yeah, you cant get everything you want at the beggining of the game. thats new huh.
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>>124936936
>>124936885
>>124937026
Here it is.
You can even use it as cover from the guns.
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>>124937153
The souls games had the benefits of similar weapons though.

Example, lets say I wanted to use richards rapier, I can get a rapier early in the game.

Lets say I want to use the washing pole, or Iai-blade. I can get an Uchi from the merchant.

DS2 examples
Lets say I want to use the Greatsword, I can get a bastard sword in the first area of the game.

In bloodborne I use the sawspear, that's it. Thats your all-purpose weapon that leads to all other weapons.

There are no other Chikage varients, there are no burial blade like weapons.

Thats the problem with having weapons with real identity, it leads to situations like this.
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>>124936860
Thanks for the help!
After you died, he got incredibly hard but i managed to heal through/dodge his attacks and cooked him for the last of his hp!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjK5f7ozzOM watching this again and holy shit, those spear fucks have the same animation as the fishing hamlet spear fucks. The Knight moves like he has some hunter blood. This is going to be amazing.

So what's the plan, are we going to stay here and talk about Das3 with bloodborne?
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>Look over records of BLs of the hosts I invade at hamlet
>MFW so many 150 shitters

Well, I guess there's no danger of losing out on invasions if I go to 120 then.
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>>124936998
>CD don't share progress with all characters
You have a lot of nice points, but this one is shit.

>Hey guys I beat the CDs on my overlevelled 250 character
>now I'm gonna make a low level twink and trash new players without having to put any effort into building them up

Fuck that. You want to twink and dole out the pain, first you gotta endure it yourself
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>>124937620
Talk about DS3 in the Souls general like every other Souls game
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>>124937620
>This is going to be amazing.
THE MOVEMENT LOOKS STUPID
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>>124936923
>Getting the desired weapon is for pvp pal.
You probably honestly believe this too. BB/Souls are just a big fighting game with a bunch of filler work in the way of earning your weapons eh?
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>>124937517
yeah this game doesn't have many weapons hmm? When did that occur to you?
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>>124937764
Yeah and thats a problem, stop moving the goalposts.
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do any of these weapons give better returns UNDER 25str than they do OVER 25 skill?

pick/ saif /bblade
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>>124937728
how would you know what weapons to get immediately from the begging while doing pve? What are you? Some kinda guide reader?
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>>124937821
How am I moving goalposts. I was talling about weapons before and I'm talking about weapons now. So pretty much your complain was that BB doesnt have too much weapons.
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>>124937620
Also that boss has some Zelda Majora's Mask music.
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>>124937728
what else is your endgame? getting that NG cycle to go higher?
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>>124937764
oh good lord.
Okay he's saying that, since each weapon is unique, you simply won't know if you like a weapon until you get it. he's saying that, at least in the Souls games there's so many reskins of weapons that you very often get to try out a lower leveled version of a weapon, and that gives you pretty much the idea of what the higher leveled one will be like.

Bloodborne's weapons are all different from each other, you can't get an idea of what the Burial Blade is like by using the Threaded Cane, for example, so it's harder to decide exactly what you want to use, and if you build yourself up for a weapon that you didn't really fall in love with, but had to use, and the weapon you DO love isn't made for those stats you're kind of hosed if you don't want to have a lot of ill spent levels in stats you don't use.

It's an understandable complaint, if not one that I particularly side with since unless it's going from one damage stat to another it's not that big of a deal.
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>>124938075
Nah, the problem was you can't use the weapons because of how they are distributed, you make it where they are all easily availible after a first playthrough and you fix both.
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>>124933835
>Vileblood is the only covenant that gives acceptable rewards
>Twinks are the worst in the series, and there is no reward for killing them
>The shitty invader system is the only thing keeping the game from being flooded with unkillable twinks
>Vermin has no purpose
>No reason to go to NG+

>Chalices reward killing the first boss more than the last one
>Many gem types cannot be acquired in abyssal form, or even beyond 17 ranking
>No Depth 6 hellish dungeons with faster enemies with constant old hunter bone that give guaranteed best gems as rewards from bosses

>>124937937
Pick and to a lesser extent Saif will, if you slap a heavy abyssal on them.
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>>124936936
You can think that, sure. But by no means is it "more than likely", especially considering we find a fuckin amygdalan arm nearby. It's not far fetched to consider an Amygdala or two may have died nearby
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>>124938242
>Pick and to a lesser extent Saif will, if you slap a heavy abyssal on them.
wouldn't it be better to put on a skill scaling gem + 2 damage onces to try reach A or even S scaling while at 50skill?
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>>124938179
in short there arent many weapons in bloodborne. I got it. Dont try and deny thats what youre saying because that is exactly what youre saying

>>124938208
pretty much a mule for weapons/items.
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Don't refresh the page guys, 4chan is kill.
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Welp, I've done it. I've finished the Chalice dungeons. Final boss was pretty easy, but also pretty fun. Great theme, too. Time to go clean up the rest of the stuff.

Thinking of doing a Skill or Bloodtinge build next. Rayuko seems like it'd be a fun weapon.
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>>124938483
Jesus fuck Hiro.
Please.
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>>124936562
Well, you also have to kill the hunter using the pick. He's actually kinda tough if you're low SL but abusable like any other hunter
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>>124938504
great blog subscribed
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>>124938403
There are no abyssal sharp gems. They max at around 25%.
Heavy abyssals give something like +60% scaling.
A church pick with a single heavy abyssal has A/B scaling.
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>>124938439
And if its a built in game "mule" how is that a bad thing? Like its been said a million fucking times. The ability to use a weapon from the start of the game only changes one thing. Your personal enjoyment of the game.

Gems and Bloodstones and stats are what make the weapons powerful, not the weapon itself. You would see no dramatic change in anything other than player enjoyment.
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>>124938546
Epic comment

Up voted
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>>124938590
And I said it would be nice. But it wont happen ever.
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>>124938678
Then why are you arguing against it so hard.
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>>124938741
lol i dunno
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http://pastebin.com/8vMcedx8
Did this ever get a sequel of any kind?
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>>124938916
I wish. Was a good read
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> Enter the dlc for the first time.
> Thinking "hey, this isn't so tough. I like what I'm seeing but I hope the difficulty ramps up a little"
> My face after my encounter with Bellaxe Noodlebeard.
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Do you know if ritual blood (4) can be bought in NG+?
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>>124939057

I was shitstomped by the hunters the moment I stepped in there. It was NG+ but still. Noodlebeards were comparatively pretty easy as long as they didn't charge at you.
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>>124939057
I thought noodlebeards would be easy at first. I fought them like I would the executioners, parried the first one twice, no problem.

Then he buffed, and the good times were over.
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A moment of silence for all those Anons who need help but can't get into the general.
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>>124939184
Only way to buy blood 4 is with yharnam stone
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>>124939421
Oh of course. Right as soon as you no longer need them.
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>>124938504
Pthu Queen is one of my favorite bosses in Bloodborne. I feel like Logarius' theme fits her way more than it does Logie.
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>>124939526
You need to farm Lower Pthumeru sackmen for blood4.
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In NG+ you can buy Ritual Blood (5) from the messenger bath right?
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>>124939560
I really hate that so many cool bosses are locked behind CD's. Think of the game we would have gotten if they never wasted time on them.
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>>124933835
Loran Darkbeast. Not the hardest boss by a mile, but i just hate fighting him

I can't stand that insufferable piece of shit
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How are my stats bbg
BL 66
VIT 30
End 12
Str 10
skl 9
blt 5
arc 50
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>>124939667
I think it's exactly the opposite, I think Chalice Dungeons were basically a dumping ground for everything that didn't make it past the cutting room floor.

>Miyazaki-san, there doesn't seem to be a way to fit this boss into the structure of the game as it is. Should we cut it?
>Throw it in the Chalice Dungeons!
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>>124939643
pls
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>>124939695

Great for invadin'.
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>>124939643
>>124939845
yes, plus red jelly and other shit you need for depth 5 dungeons
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>>124939770
You're probably right, but I'd sacrifice all of the chalice dungeons for one more proper area with the Pthu decendant and queen. They are the two that actually mean a shit honestly.

Labyrinth underground with the Pthumerian enemies, far more expanded vistas and a few bosses? Done fucking deal. Instead we got a samey corridor tileset with the same enemies, but they do more damage while we autism grind gems.

Think of how the gems would actually be distrubuted well, think of how you wouldn't have to grind materials to see content.
THE DREAM
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>>124939879
Cool thats what i was aiming for. I was thinking 68 and i could use alot more weapons, but i'm aiming for parasite of kos
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>>124934248
>>124934303
>>124934489

> Tfw whenever I'm grabbed by a brainsucker I quickly open the menu and quit the game before I can lose insight.

Eat shit.
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>>124939881
Am I right in thinking ritual blood (5) iss at the echoes bath and the rest is at the insight bath?
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So unless I've missed something blindingly obvious, the only consumables that restock when you enter or leave the Hunter's Dream are your bullets and vials, right?
That's stupid. I've got a shit ton of throwing knives, molotovs, etc etc all in storage that I can't do anything with it seems.
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>>124939953
rit blood and tomb mold are souls bath, the rest is insight bath
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>>124939910

That wouldn't hurt too much. That range is going to be great for Mensis/Yahar'gul.
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>>124940014
thanks
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>4chins is fucked again
This shit only used to happen late at night
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Hows this for a BLT build @120:
50/14/25/25/50/6
Should I lose some vit/end for the gatling/cannon and are they worth it?
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>>124940161
So that's why the thread is slow.
Thanks for warning me not to leave the lovely, safe thread.
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Beast Cutter has to be the weakest weapon of the DLC. The fucking Boomhammer is faster and does more damage unless you go 40/40 str/skill. Even then the beast cutter trickmode is slow as molasses and it's range still leaves you vulnerable if you didn't stagger the enemy. I'm extremely disappointed
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>>124940253
Nah son, Boomhammer is way fuckin worse. Beast cutter trivializes shit with its range-pancakes. Boomhammer is ass.
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>>124940253
>>124940308
>these are the two weapons I was most excited for
>they're the worst in the DLC

Ain't that some shit
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Whoever came up with the red spiders in the chalice dungeons should be executed.
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>>124940308
This. 50 STR with Cutter tricked R2 means 1K+ damage on most mobs and is almost guaranteed to pancake anything it hits except for giant bosses.
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wow you guys werent kidding when you said maria went full anime. I need some help, bl 60~ at maria fog gate pw bbganime
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>>124940253
what are you talkin about? The untransformed beast cutter is fast as fuck. The extended has like no recovery but thats when you make use of its hyper armor and range. Hopefully this is the right webm. I should really start naming these more appropriately. Or you could just mind fuck everyone with the gatling gun in this vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0N-LFzBmhI&ab_channel=JinwooChung
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>>124940450
It does 1k with top-tier gems if you land both hits, and only the second hit pancakes while they can literally walk out of the first one. That R2->R2 combo also takes a fuckload of stamina.
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>>124939895
>grind materials to see content.
There's literally almost no grinding involved. I have 6 fucking Yharnam Stones. At worst, you might have to farm some blood (3) or blood (4) or blood (5) at some point. At worst.

Usually, if you loot the dungeons thoroughly, you get every you need to move onwards. You're only making things harder on yourself by being impatient.
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>>124940415
DUDE
WEED
LMAO
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Anyone able to help with cursted pthumerian defilement layer 2 watchdog?
Pw is: vgbbg7
Ringing at lamp
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>>124940308
It eats way too much stamina though, and leaves you mega vulnerable against anything but the smallest enemies. Anything bigger than a normal hollow will just rape you. And the beast cutter is ass for bosses because the extra range on trick mode means dick against their huge range. Don't even get me started on pvp with it.

Boom hammer I just r1 -> l1 -> r1/2 combos over and over and shit gets staggered AND dies, for way less stamina.
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oh no I see a crow addled raven, hurry.
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>>124940525
Good lord above, set your webm resolution lower. I can taste the bitrate.
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>>124940606
420 blaze it faggot
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Should I bother getting a CRF Chalice out of the way before finishing the game with this particular character, or should I just wait till my next character before going full autism mode?

>>124940553
Interestingly enough, I've yet to have anything walk out of my tricked R2 combo that wasn't a giant boss or otherwise immune to pancaking. The insane range only works in your favour, too.

>>124940525
>tfw I could hear the sound effects of the transformation attack as clearly as if I were doing it myself
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Any anons wanna go spelunking in exdy2m2t? I want to get the abyssal heavy from layer 3 BLB
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[roaring intensifies]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d67rSInXBpg
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>>124940501

ringin'
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>>124940938
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>>124940562
This. Many of the enemies along the main path in the chalices are guaranteed to drop materials needed to progress. You only find yourself short of mats and needing to farm if you skipped enemies.
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5 favorite bosses let's go.

1. Maria
2. Gehrman
3. Ludwig
4. Logarius
5. Vicar Amelia
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>>124940734
eh, you can see the part that matters in the webm.
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>chalice rom
is he going to be as annoying as I think
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>>124940938
you just got memed on lmao
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Can someone help with story ailing loran layer 3 boss please?
Rining at the lamp and password is bbg123
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>Or some say Kosm
>Nobody actually says Kosm, except for Micolash who was stillborn in the mind
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>>124941260

It's rather generous actually.
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>>124941417
SAVAGE
A
V
A
G
E
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>>124941385
Do you have a decent +10 weapon? My last run through chalice rom I charged a beast pellet on the spiders and managed to kill him from full before he could teleport. The spiders are a pain in the ass but he's still paper and enough damage lets you bypass the 2nd and 3rd phases.
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>>124941057
1. ludwig/gehrman
2. Orphan of Kos
3. Pthumerian Elder
4. Gascoigne
5. watchdog
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>mfw so many bloodborne streams
the casuals are coming back.
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>>124941260
I didn't realize the tricked R1s had full hyperarmor. That's not actually so bad, then.
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>>124934265
I think you still need that stray ritual blood (4) for defiled chalice right?
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>>124941396
Anyone?
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>>124941618
What a time to invade!
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>>124941057
1. Orphan
2. Gehrman
3. Gascoigne
4. Ludwig
5. Abhorrent Beast

Honourable mentions to Maria and Ebrietas
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>>124941057

Gehrman
Moon presence
Abhorrent beast
Shadows of Mordnam
Madman Ludwig + Kirk
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>>124941618
mfw I invade the bottom of mergo's loft and so many people are IDLE
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>>124920308
fucking lol
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Does the transformed Amygdalan arm scale with Arcane?
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What's a good skill weapon that compliments the Threaded Cane?
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anyone fancy helping with pthumeria descendant? pass bbg7
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>>124941394

DID IT COUNT
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Noooo, it said prey slaughtered but she's still alive
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Hmm, looks like my 137BL character has less invasions in Hunter's Nightmare. It's seems most people here are 70-80BL not even 98BL. Now I understand why my 98BL character always faced dead meat with 30-20VIT like >>124939695
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>>124941798
The amy arm is like the BoM or BB, it just has innate arc split damage on all of its attacks. The arc damage and scaling are always active and effect everything.

There's no real point to it other than ensuring that the arm is unbuffable.
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>>124941869
restocking on vials and bullets, be right there again. thanks for the help, i can't believe it didn't count
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>>124941840
Il try
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what are some good weapons for a 70 arc bl 98-110 build?

except for kos parasite
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>>124941417
That line about their minds being stillborn refers to Rom and his spiders. That's why they're "Vacuous"
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>>124942058
cheers nigga, doing this fucker with 20vit is a cunt, fucking hate his sickles flinging through pillars bullshitery
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>>124942180
>Rom and his spiders
>his
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>>124942063
got some STR and a little SKL? Get Moonlight Sword
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>>124942265
Still searching using srrc
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>>124942036
Okay, thanks.
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>>124942326
i´d love to but ive been told hms sucks donkey balls on a pure arc character
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>>124942063

I don't think there's any avoiding the parasite on a 70 arc build.
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Any ideas for a Prepare to Cry? Also post the lore.
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>>124941869
Brador best confederate! Thanks a bunch man!
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>>124942276
She was a girl but you can hardly say in the spider form
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>Still not on ludwig
snailborne redux
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>>124942375
No worries, just ringing by the boss hallway
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>>124942580
>She was a girl
Source?
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>>124942578

NP, good hunting in the hamlet.
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>>124941547
I've got a +9 beast cutter and +9 saw cleaver. I'm running arcane for fun, I just thought I'd actually do chalices for fun, I realize neither weapon is optimal for arcane but I'm playing around with 'em until I get to Kos Parasite.

Would a Rosmarinus with bone ash work well? Also, if I unlock the gate, will it stay unlocked if I go back to the dream to get more vials? This is the first time I've had to go back at all mid-dungeon.
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>>124942707
thanks, im gonna go see laurence real quick then head there
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After I start the blood moon, it's ok to kill the fake isoefka for the umbilical cord piece?
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>>124942650
The big M.
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>>124942180
The line about them being stillborn is completely with regard to Mergo though. It's from Mergo's cord. I'd imagine the stillborn individuals its talking about are the spiderdudes like patches that didn't keep their sanity. Miyazaki makes a point of saying Patches maintained his sanity in the guidebook interview, which implies to me that his peers haven't. Also the whole loft is covered in tiny looking spiders so maybe Mergo likes arachnids for some reason? Lol
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how the fuck do i fight bosses with a chikage?

unzipping takes like 5 years
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>>124920308
Anybody else read the title with chris rocks voice of donkey from shrek.
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>>124942795
Yes.
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>>124942598
its going to take a long time for them to finish this dlc based on that horrible stat spread(30 vit/32 end/30 str/20 skl/18 blt/20 arc) or some overleveling/making a new build
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>>124941057
Gehrman, The First Hunter
Yharnam, Pthumerian Queen
Father Gascoigne
Ludwig the Accursed/Holy Blade
Micolash, Host of the Nightmare
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>>124942991
jesus, is patt thinking he's playing das or something
what a horrible build
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>>124942727
Yes it stays unlocked until you delete that chalice. You can freely come and go from the dungeon without having to redo shit.

Bone ash works poorly with the rosy. It only applies to the first tick of damage so it doesn't do much. You're just going to have to tough it out and muddle through the hard way. Be sure to clear all the spiders each phase because the limited space in the area will cause them to stack up and fill the room if you try to ignore them. You can hide behind the pillars to clear them while avoiding Rom's ice rain attack.
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with 28/50 str/blt what the fuck can I even use besides bloodletter? there are like 0 mainhand weapons for str/blt
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I'm going to marry the Bowblade!
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>>124942632
Dont think its working man, i tried though. Sorry
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Why havnt the stump messengers showed up for me? I have 24 insight, 2 pieces of clothing for them, but nothin.
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>>124942815
>is completely with regard to Mergo though
Yeah and what was keeping Mergo and his ritual hidden?
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>>124943185
Any pure STR stuff. Hunter Axe is a solid choice in any situation.
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>>124942991
>32 Endurance
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>>124943250
you have to masturbate on webcam for miyazaki
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>>124943348
Ah thanks, I just ERPd with him, I guess thats not enough.
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>>124943271
hunter axe isn't even pure strength

kirk is shit
pizza cutter requires 12 skl, which I am not going to waste time investing into

there is fucking nothing
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>>124943395
>kirk is shit
nigga...
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>>124943146
Mmmmok.
At least I'm ahead on ritual blood, I have 6 right now from Bagboy drops and dungeon stuff.
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Can someone help with story ailing loran layer 3 boss please?
Ringing at the lamp and password is bbg123
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>>124942727
how are C/D and D/C weapons on arcane builds?

I kinda wanted to make a 11/11 str/skl arc build for saif and beast cutter
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>>124942063
Hunter tools, Saw Spear, Threaded Cane
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>>124943185
File under, "Questions that should be asked before leveling your character."
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>>124938567

Wait, so would that make it better to go 50/25 strength/skill for a pick build, or are you better off sticking to 25/50?
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>>124942326
>pure arc
>recommending moonlight

kek
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>the yharnam hunter you get the rune workshop tool from
jesus
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>>124942326
no
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>>124943552
the scaling is poor but with those broken abyssals it should be fine, the real joy is in the wide moveset afforded by beast cutter / saw cleaver combo. If I need heavy smashes at long range (like fuck bagmen, I can just transformed R2 all day) i've got my beast cutter and otherwise I've got my fire saw cleaver which wrecks beastie boys hard.

I just like being able to use good melee moveset weapons with hunter tools.
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>>124943192
I'm going to marry you
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>>124942991
who?
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>>124943185
chikage and bow blade
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>>124938567
scaling gems sound completely broken

I might make a build like this for the pick if I didn't think they will be patched soon
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So guys, I'm trying to follow the chalice dungeon guide someone posted, but I seem to have hit a dead end unless I'm full retard.

Step 5. in the guide says to do Defiled, which drops from Lower Phtumerus Bloodletting Beast. Now, I've very clearly done it, I got the dungeon still up and the heart layer 4 lantern activated, but when I look through my inventory, I only have the CURSED & defiled version. Is this the correct one, or have I somehow not gotten the right chalice? Some googling seems to hint that it's either a glitch and it didn't drop, or that they apparently swapped the item-names around for god knows what reason.

TL:DR; Chalice not drop, is it GG no RE or simply do Cursed.
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>>124943857
>chikage and bowblade
>str/blt weapons

no
and if you're going 28/50, there is no room to level skl beyond base
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>>124943708
>>124942471
>>124943761
>>124943761
its good for the beams which hit for 360-400 and come out fast as shit
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>>124943909

That's the right one.
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anyone on to help with Orphan? I've been trying and trying but I just can't get good. I can take him down to second phase but after that he just stomps me.

bl 80
pass is nogud52
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>>124943909
You're golden, pony boy!
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>>124944028
simon's vanilla R1s hit harder than that

it's shit
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>>124943708
I dont know what his other stats are faggot
he couldve had 15 SKL on him, slap STR up to 20 and you could run both Tonitrus and Moonlight.
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>>124944015
well theres also no reason to use other STR weapons because you'll be doing fuck all for damage with literally all of them. put up vit and down strength. then put skl to 15 for bowblade.
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>>124943185
bloodletter is everything you need literally perfect 2hand moveset
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>>124943909
That is the right one
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>>124944113
Coming on over
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Why was boomhammer dine so badly ;_;
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Anyone for normal chalice Rom? Password bbg.

It'd just be nice to have some company.
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>>124944182
no it doesnt dude. simons hits up to 250-400*

*on a counter/headshot hit
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>>124944192
anon is saying MLGS is fucking stupid on an arc build mate hundred
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is Bloodletter the most metal weapon in any videogame?
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>>124944367
git gud
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>>124944217
there is no room to move str below 28 when 27 and 28 meet the requirements for church cannon and gatling gun

and believe it or not, people actually need vit for pvp

bowblade with base skl would be a shitty gimmick anyway

just stop
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Anyone need help in cursed lvl5 CD? I need Blood Rock
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>>124943552
Arcane scaling for all weapons is the average of their strength and skill scalings +10%. So e.g. Saif has a 0.3 Strength and 0.7 Skill scaling, giving it an Arcane scaling of 0.55 [(0.3 + 0.7) / 5 * 1.1].

In other words, all weapons have equally good arcane scaling relative to their physical scaling.
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>>124944029
>>124944117
>>124944248

Thanks, glad I'm just some retard with reading-comprehensions then rather than the game fucking me over. Back to suffering through these chalices then!
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>>124942707
Also when i was summoning you, it was like a chorus singing. I have my headphones up pretty loud with the bloodborne audio profile and it was fucking majestic man. Things got really loud and intense and you came like an angel.
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>speedrunning laboratories to get the key to the prison and get churchpick
>arrive at the top just before the lever
>crow drops in front of me
>panic
>r1 with Saif
>mfw I get teleported from the beam into the void

The pick looks worth it though
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>>124944441
>boom hammer is good
>here, look at the same fucking two webms I made when I invaded shitters in mensis
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>>124944113
If you can't find anyone, here's some advice for how I took him down at 14.

When you get him to about 70%, pop a Blood Pellet and stack that bar as high as you can.

What you need to do is keep him in phase one as long as possible. When he's almost 50%, bait an attack you can parry, and then run in and do a couple slashes (NOT VISCERAL) he'll almost always follow up with the same attack, parry that and slash him a couple more times. If you're lucky, he'll keep doing that and you can burn him down.

If not, he'll jump backwards to get room to go into phase 2. If he does, start spam shooting his ass; him taking damage might bait him into doing his attack again, giving you another chance to parry and keep burning him in phase 1.
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>>124944341
>>124944113
Alright, rang my bell outside the fog gate
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>>124944428
>20 STR
>60 ARC
I didnt grind nourishing gems yet and rely on crappy 19% ones and sit on 630 AR. It can work just fine, but people start shitposting insanely if anyone dares do a build differently from the "perfect" build.
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>>124943701
>Wait, so would that make it better to go 50/25 strength/skill for a pick build, or are you better off sticking to 25/50?

Give me ~10 minutes to do the math.

>>124944432
It's #2 after Nevan.
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>>124944543
Yeah I just got defiled chalice as well, at lvl 66 lower pthemeru was kind of difficult. I don't know what to expect, I've never gone this far in chalices.
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What is the best weapon in the dlc and why is it the bowblade?
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>>124944654
Put your trip back on Lucy, we all know the only person massively disliking BH is you.
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what exactly do cold abyssals do for arcane users? what does it mean ARC scale + 22% on the spreadsheet?

also is there anything I should do with this current character to sort of salvage it? (it's sort of inbetween builds).

30 V
15 E
18 Str
12 Skl
5 BT
50 Arc
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What if I try to stagger one of those labyrinth sages with the fist?
Can I make it without getting my ass brutally raped?
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I'm planning on building my character around the threaded cane. I figured I wouldn't need that much END but how much stamina is actually enough?
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>>124944796
it's beast cutter
it may take a shitton of stam and have no charged r2
but you can yell howl zabimaru and knock bagmen and werewolves on their asses.
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>>124944719
MLGS fags was LHB fags in past. They don't care about nothing except 99999AR. But for muh 137BL meeting MLGS 50STR/50ARC is pure hell
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>>124944796
>not the gift from the pizza gods
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>>124944872
this is truly the shittiest weapon of the dlc
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>doing coop for paarl
>break its legs and keep it down for the entire fight and kill it under a minute
>host excitedly starts running in circles around me
Guess he was having a hard time.
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>>124943395
>hunter axe isn't even pure strength
Yes it is.
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>>124944871
What do you mean salvage? Bring vit up to 48 and you've got a perfectly serviceable pizza cutter arcane build.
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>>124944871
>30 V
free frag
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>>124944752
Nevan looks like something from Jefferson Starship or a Daft Punk video or something
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>>124944113
Shit, sorry man. First fight of the day. Was a bit rusty.

If you need to go again I'm ready
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How'd I do?
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>>124945036
yo paarl raped my ass for the first time, I couldn't even hit him

Then I come back 30 hours laters I kill him in 2 minutes
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>>124944871

Cold abyssals are bugged atm they add a crap ton of scaling so the AR of even D arcane weapons are very good.
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>>124945137
I'm good to go until he's dead or you don't want to
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>>124945051
B/D isn't pure strength

I wouldn't use a hunters axe without 25 skl in the same way I wouldn't use a burial blade without 25 str.
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>>124945173
would in the mouth and arse
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>>124945206
>bugged
You're retarded. It's not a bug. It's a buff. Jesus.
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>>124945173
i want to hold hands with iosefka
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>>124944468
Anyone?
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>>124945068
i don't know if i exactly would enjoy pizza cutter in pvp. it really requires constantly being tricked and that limits left hand rosmarinus.

>>124945085
i don't know what you mean

>>124945206
what would it do for a S rank arcane weapon, like parasite?
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>>124945068
Not him but what gems do you need to do that, please ? I have a friend disappointed by MLGS and that might cheer him up. He's 25/50 str/arc
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>>124945251
>B/D isn't pure strength
Yes it is. D is completely worthless. Enjoy wasting tons of stats for maybe 30-50 extra AR.

It's only worth it to start investing quality style if it's got at least a C. My pure STR Hunter Axe build wrecks pretty hard.
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>>124945297

Yes clearly I'm retarded that the Gems are giving 3x the amount that's presented on screen. Let's just call it a tooltip error then you autist.
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>>124945369
well, if you make it elemental, you won't get any str scaling out of it

it will be a pure arcane weapon

just throw anything with either fire, bolt or arcane%+ into it
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>>124938439
>in short there arent many weapons in bloodborne.
While true, that isn't what the fucking issue he has with it is. Are you just completely unable to read?
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>>124945435
you are incredibly wrong given that going to 25 with D will net you more AR than going to 50 with a C

B/D is quality str leaning, not pure str
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>>124945520
I didn't create an arcane build, so I don't understand well how it works yet. Arc stat improves all elemental damages and that's why it's interesting going elemental when it's shit on str/skl build, am I correct ?
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what are some good bow builds? has anyone tried arcane bow? i haven't done any skl/blt characters so i have no idea what to do.
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>>124945137
sorry man, didn't see the lightning behind him and just walked into it
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Pleased with how she came out.
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>Two fire witches in front of the boss door in a FRC dungeon

Fuck you miyazaki
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>>124945701
the issue was that there isnt a starter weapon for every stat/build.
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>>124945173
Very impressive
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>>124944871
Seemingly it works greatly for the L2 attack to have a cold abyssal. Just got to get a 23.8 and 25 to replace the radials but this is what you'd want
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>>124945709
pure physical weapons don't scale with arc at all, but give a letter grade for arc scaling

when you put elemental gems in the weapon, it will instead do pure damage of a certain element and exclusively scale with arcane

so the idea is to meet the minimal requirements of the weapon and pump arc

on this case that means going 18/12 str/skl to be able to use the pizza cutter and then converting it to elemental damage which will get full scaling from 50 arc

split weapons, e.g weapons that have phys and elemental damage are a different story entirely
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>>124945796
the bow already has phys/blt split so it's impossible to make arcane

the bow does best when you get as close to 50/50 skl/blt as possible
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>>124946081
70 ARC here
got some high tier cursed fire gems, how much fun will it be to put them in a whirligig?
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>fighting chalice rom
>20% of health left
>somehow activate a gesture
>die

huh.
Ok.
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>>124945809
but the Miyazakiman didn't work on the chalices
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>>124945804
same
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>>124945882
What is the saw cleaver?

It pretty much doesn't give a shit what your stats are and rips through the first half of the game like tissue anyway.
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>>124945705
>you are incredibly wrong given that going to 25 with D will net you more AR than going to 50 with a C
that doesn't fucking prove anything.
>B/D is quality str leaning
Enjoy being a retard and wasting stat points. It's not worth investing into a D when you have a B.
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>>124946081
Very clear, thank you anon
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>>124946237
you'll do almost identical damage to a 50 arc because of the softcap

only hunter tools scale beyond 50 arc
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>>124946217
why does bowblade have arcane scaling, even if shitty?

also, if bowblade is best at 50/50, i assume that means 118 meta? what would be a good companion weapon to go with bowblade? chikage?
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>>124945882

>saw cleaver
>grab the 6 beast blood pellets in Old Yharnam
>rip every boss a new asshole
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Is the Fist of Gratias ever useful? I really want to punch beasts.
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>>124946414
Alright
Im guessing I'll rip through Loran dungeons though :^)
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>>124946282
>arc build
>fire saw cleaver
heh
heh
h e h
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>>124946287
my hunters axe build is 25/50 str/skl with B/A scaling from an abyssal

:^)
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>>124946584
It you're at B/A then it's worth investing. Not otherwise.

>:^)
Gotta love it when people admit to be underage shitstains.
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>>124946538
It's for weapons that have shit stun.

You can instead alternate your weapon and fist of gratia to keep something in place and do a pseudo combo on it

For instance, using kos parasite for unarmed moveset, you can go R1 L2 R1 L2 R1 L2 until you run out of stamina on almost any enemy, good example are the watchers
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>>124946584

Wait where did you get an abyssal sharp gem? I didn't know any layer 3 bosses even dropped that.
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>>124946521
the bowblade has no arcane scaling and cannot be converted to elemental damage at all

see >>124946081

If you want to be in range down to BL80, you can stop at BL116 and get very close to 50/50 skl/blt. Chikage is your best other option. If you see yourself as using the chikage more than the bow, it would probably be best to be at 25/50 skl/blt.
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what the fuck are you supposed to do with an arcane circle gem
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>>124946287
It's okay to have opinions but holy fuck you need to stop when you are wrong in a mathematical sense
You get more damage from 25/25 than 40/10 because the scaling contribution for str isn't even double that of skill
Keep believing the alphabet though you fucking dunce
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Can anyone help me with Brie in Isz? Password is dickbutt
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>>124946282
>>124946524
Well apparently that isnt good enough they need a specific weapon for the start of their build.
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>>124946882
put it in your ass
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>>124946893
>You get more damage from 25/25 than 40/10 because the scaling contribution for str isn't even double that of skill
But the amount of damage you're getting extra is pretty much worthless. You'd do better getting Vit/End/Arc.

You minmaxer losers always astound me with your obsessive chase for marginal damage gains. You do it at the cost of literally everything.
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>>124946772
>He doesn't know

Mate, I get abyssals from Layer 1 bosses. This one just last night from a layer 1 Pthumeru Descendant.

You need an extreme amount of item find. I have nearly 450, my build is a 70 ARC one.
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Is Gehrman's OST still the best?
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fuck
FUCK
Help me anons I lost that site URL that let you convert eyes into images, it was posted ages ago on here but I cant find it back ;_;
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>>124947039
Not him 25/25 and 40/10 both make 50, that doesn't leave anything you idiot
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>>124947052
that's not the kind of abyssal he's talking about
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>>124946573
>Not even reading the post

You use the saw by itself until you get a weapon you can actually use arcane on idiot.

Attack stats mean absolutely fuck all until you start getting chunks anyway.
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>>124947078
Ebrietas' theme and Terror are still the best
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>>124946838
i'm not arguing or anything, but im looking at the bowblade and it has D arcane scaling. i don't know what else i am missing.
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>>124947186
You could just stay at 25/10 and put points elsewhere you fucking dunce. Hunter Axe hits like a truck. You're not going to be turning a 4 hits kill into a 3 hits kill by wasting points in SKL.
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>>124947212
You can get Sharp Abyssals from Keeper of the Old Lords exactly how I described, ning nong.

You can get abyssals from any chalice boss. The chances are just pure bladestone hyper insanity dante never dies mode. Which is where high as fuck item find helps.
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Anyone want to help with maingame Ebrietas? Doing an ARC character and she's resistant as fuck to arc and my fire spear is filled with kin down gems.
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>>124947039
98 can run 50/50/25 just fine
>i can invest in end or arc
Oh, you're one of those guys.
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>>124947039
>"IT'S NOT WORTH IT!!!"
>get proven wrong
>"fuggin minmax losers"
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I thought you only needed to make 1 CRF dungeon to get to all the other depth 5 CRFs but it's saying i don't meet the requirements?
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>bone ass hunter set removes your whole head
Maximum spook.
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>>124947318
Yes you are. You're literally following letters aren't you?
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>>124943701
>>124944752
Ok, assuming I didn't completely fuck up my math, the highest Listed Damage would be a 50/25 with one 24.8/15 Tempering Abyssal, one 24.8/15 Heavy Abyssal, and one 27.2. I didn't check to see if an off-shape 24.8/15 would be better than the 27.2.

The gem combination I listed results in only 6 more LD than a 25/50 build with 27.2s, and only 1 more LD than a 25/50 build with 2x 24.8/15 temperings and 1x 27.2. Whether or not this results in the highest Unmitigated Damage depends on weapon multipliers. My guess is that you'd get better overall damage with a 25/50 build with 3x 27.2s, but I'm not really sure. I don't know the multipliers for Church Pick and don't feel like figuring them out atm. If you'd like to take a shot at it, here's how:

1. Get a Church Pick that isn't very upgraded, doesn't have any gems, etc. About 160 AR +/-20 is what you want. If your AR is too high, the simple version of the damage formula you'll be using becomes inaccurate, and if it's too low you get problems with rounding errors.
2. Go to Pthumeru layer 1 chalice, find one of the labyrinth watchers (basic naked skinny guy enemy), and hit him with an attack.
3. Make sure it's not a counter-hit, they take counter damage near the end of their swings. To be sure it's not counter damage, try to deal counter damage to it once, then deal a non-counter-hit. If there's a difference in damage, the lower damage hit is the one that doesn't deal counter damage.
4. Take the damage from the non-counter hit, and plug it in to this:

(d + 34) / 0.9 / LD = x

d is the non-counter hit damage dealt.
LD is the Listed Damage on your stat sheet.
x is the multiplier for the attack you used.
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>>124947390
>implying endurance isn't important
>implying empty phantasm, beast roar and old hunter bone aren't useful.

Oh but do keep on spending endless points in search of mild AR gains. That'll work just fine!
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Thanks!!
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>>124947239
yes, it has D scaling in arcane, but it also has phys/blt split damage, so it cannot be converted to use elemental damage in the same way a riflespear can't

the arcane letter is assigned as a percentage of its physical scaling
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>>124947431
1 CRF Root of any type and you can search for the others as long as you have them in your inventory.
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>>124947435
too bad it only looks ok on Maria's chest piece
and even then its still too edgy
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>>124946896
Yeah sure I'll ring in a second. I don't have a completed Isz at hand so I'm going to SRRC, might take a bit.
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>>124947318
There's nothing else to invest in
>end
Pointless
>arc
Oh good, OHB that catches someone off guard the first time they see it and never again
>vit
Already gouged
>bt
Lol
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>>124946910
Oh my God. So it is that you can't read.
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>>124947431
Did you make a CRF Isz?
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>>124947431
You also need to own the root chalice of the dungeon in question.
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>>124947547
i understand now, thanks.
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>>124947516
>damage isn't important, you need useless arcane spells and endurance beyond 15

- you
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>>124920412
migrate
>>124920412
migrate
>>124920412
migrate


new
>>124920412


>>124920412
new
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>>124947572
>he doesn't use bone ash repeater at base bt
lmao@your life
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>>124947559
yeah, I'm going back to my Gold Ardeo / Graveguard set but it's still neat that they remove your whole head.
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>>124947482
>Yes you are.
No. The amount of AR gained isn't even over 100.

>>124947572
>End
>Pointless
The worst meme that gets spread around here. It's plenty useful. Being able to swing your weapon a third time can create a huge gain in damage. Being able to commit to attacks and still dodge away afterwards is huge too.
> OHB
Beast Roar and Empty Phantasm are pretty useful too. Especially the roar.
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>>124947339
Even if you got an abyssal, it wouldn't matter. Gem drops from Keeper simply do not have the glitched bonus that Pthumerian/BLB drops have.
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>>124947339
If I were to farm this on a 70 arc build, would I be able to transfer it to another build by dropping it for a summoned friend to pick up?
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>>124947682
Slight damage gains aren't worth heavy investment.

>useless arcane spells
I bet the damage gained from a phantasm use would make up for or even exceed what your extra SKL would give. I'm also pretty embarassed for you, because you haven't realized beast roar is great on any weapon that has a twohanded mode. It's a good replacement for a gun in terms of defending from rushes etc.
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>>124947078
No, Ludwig knocked it out of the park
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>>124947175
Eyes Granted
https://dreamscopeapp.com/editor
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>>124947973
EPS literally adds 10 extra damage per hit
Please fucking stop
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>>124946038
Where do you even get nice arcane radials like that? Can't find any for shit.
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>>124948082
>EPS literally adds 10 extra damage per hit
No. It adds 80.
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Still looking for some help with pthumeria descendant, anyone up for it? I can't parry for shit.
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>>124947875
What are you even talking about.

Someone asked how anon got a Sharp Abyssal. I explained how it likely would've happened.

What are you going on about bonuses for.
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For Amy Arm is is better to stack blunt damage, or to boost both? I'm sure the scything attacks are normal, right?
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>>124948179
Damage
Per
Hit

Not AR

DAMAGE
PER
HIT
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>>124946896
>>124947561
You still ringing?
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>>124947973
who the fuck cares about phantasm? you have fucking resins

it's a waste to deviate from having more damage and you NEVER, EVER need more end than 15 unless you want to use a spammy high stam consumption weapon like rakuyo

50/25 + blunt gems will always be the way to go for a hunters axe
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>>124948116
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/edit?pli=1#gid=1814333532

Keeper NPC's. cb7jig9p is a good place, there's a lone keeper NPC you can sneak up and visceral just outside the lamp.

The scaling gems drop from Pthumerian Elders. You really want an abyssal one with +22.5, since it's glitched and will give you +65 scaling, making it really strong.
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>>124948294
>Not AR
Flat values add to your total AR you fucking dunce. Sure, it's being eaten away by ARC def values, but it's still there.

>>124948324
It's just for the sake of argument. Really it's only Roar/Bone that are any good.
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>>124948373
Ten fucking damage
It's been tested
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>>124948324
>blunt gems
TOPPEST KEK.

Now I've seen it all. The moveset isn't even 50% blunt you fucking moron.

>>124948438
>It's been tested
Prove it.
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>>124948373
>Really it's only Roar/Bone that are any good.

not worth the loss of damage

you might be able to make that argument if this was a 50/25/15 or something for moonlight where you got something out of arcane besides those two hunter tools

but you can't
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>>124948202
+scaling gems are shit. They are only currently useful because of a glitch introduced in the last patch that makes them give much larger bonuses than they are supposed to. Only certain bosses drop the glitched gems. Keeper is not one of them. The anon asking you how to get abyssal gems probably does not know this, and thinks the abyssal sharp gem will be good, when actually it'll be shit.
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>>124948564
>not worth the loss of damage
YOU ARE ONLY GAINING MAYBE 50-70 AR. IT'S NOT FUCKING WORTH IT. THAT WON'T BE THE KEY DIFFERENCE THAT WINS A MATCH.
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>>124948350
I've killed that fucking keeper at least 50 times and gotten a grand total of one shitty arcane% gem. I have enough of every other scaling gem for ANY OTHER damage type.

Is that really my only option? Fuck me.
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>>124948586
Again, what are you going on about. I don't know at all how any of that corresponds to the initial question:

"How did you get an abyssal sharp gem".

Why are you even replying to my posts and what is all that assumption nonsense you're doing.
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>>124948675
even if you were gaining 50-70 AR, it would be additional pure physical AR that would cut through defenses instead of adding a teeny tiny bit of arcane from phantasm that wouldn't do shit
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>>124948183
Nvm got the fucker, ringing for headless BLB if anyone's up for it though.
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>>124948725

Although you answered the original anon's question, I think that anon is trying to say that even if you manage to get the sharp abyssal, it won't really be that good anyway because its scaling isn't glitched like Cold/Heavy abyssals.
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>got 2 radial and 1 triangle +18% bolt attack gems from old hunters
>on my tinge character
>my arcane character has only two +fire gems that are complete shit
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>>124948538
>>124948538
>The moveset isn't even 50% blunt you fucking moron.

actually, it is about 50/50 but I confused it with ludwig R1s for a second
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>>124949053
The radials drop pretty commonly.
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>>124949185
Nice. I don't have to worry too much then, thanks.

I know I could get much better, but FUCK CHALICES.
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>>124949053
Just farm the lightning rod wizards in fish central on your arc char.
They drop the lightning radials like candy.
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>>124949017
Password?

>>124949314
Yeah I'm glad they're easy to get now. I've never finished an arcane character because of how shitty the farming is.
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>>124949423
Pass is bbgkek cheers man
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>>124949647
Alright I'll ring in front of the fog.
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>>124949647
>>124949790
Fug
I've never seen him do that before. Ringing again should you need it.
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>>124950468
I got greedy and he faceplanted me kek, ringing again cheers man
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Why are you fuckers still in this thread? Migrate.

>>124920412
>>124920412
>>124920412
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>>124950603
Oh my god let me just get my arcane character. That one's lower leveled so I won't be losing 1100 health to the downscaling.
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>>124951196
no worries man, getting fucking rekt myself, he's so god damn tanky when you only have like 350 ar
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>>124951489
What level are you? I was not expecting to get downscaled at level 96. You might want to ask for someone else with a twink. I'll keep ringing if you want me to though.
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>>124952078
43, everything was clean sailing until here, I'm just fucking terrible at fight BLB :<
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>>124920308
Woah wtf,has anyone fought shadows recently?It sounds like they whisper something after they die.I am damn sure they didn't do that before
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>>124952360
Well in that case I might as well just use the bloodtinge character I had earlier.
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>>124952529
god dammit sorry, got stuck by the fucking door way
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>>124953278
It's fine friendo. He's killed me twice by backing me into the wall so I know the feeling well.
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>>124953478
Alright I think that's enough for tonight for me, need to take a wee break until tomorrow. Really appreciate your help though man, almost had the fucker the time before last but I fucked up

I'll give it another shot tomorrow
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
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