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Plip plop edition

Finally became something >>124201048

>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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Oh, my...

/bbg/, it seems I've dropped my eyes in this puddle.

Now I can't see anything.
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Does anyone know which of Lovecraft's stories comprise his cycle about the Dream Lands?
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First for Maria
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Do I drop points in arcane for moonlight sword and go above lvl 100?

Help me I'm impulsive and not sure if this is a smart decision
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>>124225336
Might aswell, the thread is gonna be about FPS drops and the DLC being shit
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>>124225421
i'm not sure anon though maybe you should take a break until you find out
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Anybody got a strategy for Laurence? Hes stumping me and I wanna play with beast mode
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so there are no big secrets in the dlc? in the base game I missed a ton of stuff on my first and even second playthrough since there are phases, missable npcs, hunters like djura etc. in the dlc theres 2 npcs that are very straight forward and you get everything in one run. or do you guys think there are stuff that everyone has missed so far?
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>>124225541
But the guiding light is calling to me

memories of green explosions in Ds1
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>>124225421

HMS, despite being described as an arcane weapon, doesn't actually get much benefit from ARC. It's a true quality weapon that benefits from a combination of high STR and SKL.
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Triggering frenzy with the Bloodletter does significantly less damage than allowing it to proc normally. You can L2 when your head's about to pop to essentially reduce the damage frenzy deals by half.
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>>124225396
Christ, that face.
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>>124225363
Anything with randolph carter

Incidentally randolph carter would be great in bloodborne, I bet he and willem would have some great talks
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Best way to build up beasthood with Rakuyo?
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>>124225548
Stick to his left side, dodge to the left when he tries to hit you, back out whenever you can't get in range before the AoE hits you, for the 2nd form stick to his left side, in the middle of him, don't get infront of him ever.
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>>124225620
Well maybe we can figure this out. Check the scaling, shouldn't that be enough to tell you what to invest in? Not to mention as Arcane focused you get tons of neat tools to use. It's more of an arcane weapon anyways
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Who the fuck is Mensis?
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>>124225695
Well that's good news because im quality as fuck and didnt want to go above min arcane anyway

I'm coming back Ds1 waveblade pvp!
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>mfw entering the DLC at lvl 30
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>>124225548
First half is cleric beast. Once his legs stop slowing him down, get in his face for a single combo, then dodge left. stay on his left until he finishes his mashing then go back.
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>>124225840

That's fantastic. Have fun with it.

By the way, ARC only really effects the attacks that shoot out those blasts of moonlight. They already do pretty decent damage-- even with base ARC --so I don't think there's any reason to go above the base requirements unless you wanted to use hunter tools as well.
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I'm trying to be an edgelord but I keep forgetting to not wave
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>>124225803
The raw stats only tell so much in this game

you don't know if the 2h version will be straight arcane scaling like chikage is blood or if it's gonna be like blades of mercy/burial blade

I just spent the points to get the min arcane to use it and I'm quality so I guess i'll let you know in 5 minutes
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>>124225984
This, the beam does about 500 at 42 Arc. Not worth it imo when the quality scaling is so good
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>all those women in the research hall
>the adoration and longing in their voices for Lady Maria

I appreciate this yuribait, From.
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>>124225204
>>124225204
If you aren't winning, you're a failure.
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>>124225775
>>124225927
Thanks anons
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>>124225915
30 is pushing it. I went through it from 52-59 and it some it was pretty painful. the bosses not so much, but the mobs in the areas...especially those lunatics in research hall - 1 combo and youre dead.
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Anyone help me with Le Rom face in lower pthumeru 3?
BL 90
pass bbg
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>>124226282

It's possible at 30, but I absolutely needed to summon for Ludwig and pretty much just ran past everything that came my way.

The things I do for the Church Pick, man.
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>>124225915
I would just grab the weapon you want and come back later.
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>>124225915
>when I realized the first 'Hunter' was just a regular enemy and not a NPCS Hunter
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>>124226467
well with that strat it's possible on level 4 lol. also that fucking hunter in that little room rekked me like three times in a row with his gun, two consecutive blasts and boom I'm dead.
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>>124226479
what if the weapon i wanted was the bloodletter?
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>>124226192
Too bad the fucking hypocritical bitch got her shit kicked in.
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>>124226698
Than tough shit. Either go through the near entirety of the DLC or wait a while.
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>>124226192
The bloated, squishy blobheads is a bit of a turnoff, though.
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>>124226693

That's true. For what it's worth, I did beat the Church Pick hunter on my own. He didn't even use his gun, though. Maybe that's why I had such an easy time getting the weapon.
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>>124226767
Not her fault Orphan cursed hunters with the nightmare.
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So is it viable to level arcane past 50?

Pic related, was going to level VIT up to 35 at least and then think of investing in strength or something. But I hear hunter tools continue their scaling above 50?
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>>124226836
When you're all head, you're probably great at eating muff
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>>124226836
Not for me.
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>>124227050
Where's the mouth?
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What's the earliest chalice I can farm chunks in? I just got to Ailing Loran Layer 2, am I a long ways off?
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>>124226936
50+ arcane is all smiles for arc builds, arcane items don't have scaling caps until 99
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>There are people using Henriett to EXPLORE the level
>at BL 90+ on NG
it doesn't get worse than this
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>>124227149
yes
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>>124226170
>>124225984
Just fucked around with it in chalices as a quality build with 14 int

So unless the 2h form gets really out of control arcane damage from scaling this bitch is a quality build weapon, its an exception to the split damage rule with gems ie blades of mercy with +arcane damage. Moonlight swords quality physical with a pure % damage gem is better than the +arcane damage ones
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>>124226936

They do continue scaling past 50. You can actually go to 99 and still get great bonuses, but 70 is also a good stopping point if you want more room for VIT or another stat.
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>>124227123
Yes

>adeleine's entire bag contracts when she drinks brain fluid
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>>124227075
>someone in this world wants to fuck this

animefags never fail to make me feel better about myself
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>>124227380
I wonder if she could fit the whole thing inside Maria
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>>124227161
>>124227285
Nice, thanks.

If I want to use kos occasionally as well, do you recommend I invest more in another stat? Possibly put a few points into end?

Then I could end up with

40 vit
16 end
70 arc

And be level 100
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>>124227123
Who needs one with all them tentacles in there.
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>>124227429
>animefags
>anime
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>>124227276
the arc just affects the tricked R2 + L2

Try some untricked R2s. Don't even bother charging them
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>>124227515
Is that why the ones on the bottom floor were tied up?
>Maria's into shibari
This just keeps getting better.
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>>124227235
Fuck
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Am I a complete coward for needing help with Orphan? Like, I seriously need to summon someone. Can anyone here help me out?
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as you can see from pic related the entire upper half of the cathedral breaches the hamlet
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my sides watching people that normally dont play these types of game attempt it. this guy has been failing at ludwig for two days in a row now. He gave up to go kill a vanilla boss, amygdala, and he keeps failing that as well. He's literally ruining his equipment right now because he died
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>>124227676
I can help you out, and no, the summoning system is in the game for a reason. Set a password and I'll be at the fog in a jiffy. What NG cycle are you on?
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GIVE US EYES
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Any advice for Laurence's CRAWLING phase.

its making me want to kill myself or someone else.
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>>124225915
>tfw picking up the DLC after gathering a few months of rust and forgetting your shitty only character is in NG++
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So when a cooperator kills Brador for you without triggering his dialogue (?) it doesn't count, but you can get his stuff. You have to go fight him in that spot again. If you fight him in the same place after you get his stuff it doesn't matter if you win or lose, he doesn't appear again.

Also he didn't appear at this cell for me until I'd gotten all the other invasions.

Basically just do it right yourself.
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>>124227809
Long Weapon is effective
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>>124227582
Even at 14 arc the tricked L2 is hitting for like 2.3x paper doll damage
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>>124227793
GIVE. US. EEEYYYEEESSS
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>>124227768
I'm on regular game. I wasn't holding out too much hope since i reckoned most people went into the dlc on a new game plus cycle. Password is BBGJDJ. And thank you!
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>>124227928
Yeah that's what ur mum told me, m8
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>>124227809
Unlock and run around in circles. Go in and attack ONCE, maybe twice if you have a fast weapon after he finishes spitting. He has really bad horizontal tracking so it's not really hard at all.
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>>124227809
Stick to his left side, at the middle of the body, don't get infront of him, learn when he starts crawling all over the place and kite him after the wall, when hes done get back to hitting his body
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Does anyone have a 40% Physical Gem yet?
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>>124227478

Kos Parasite is a pure ARC weapon, so no other stats are necessary in order to use it. With base offenses, you have access to four weapons, three of which have passable ARC-scaling:

>Threaded Cane
>Saw Spear
>Hunter's Axe

Unless you want to use something like the Kirkhammer or the Beasthunter Saif, there's not much of a reason to raise any of your other stats aside from VIT/END. Personally, I'd put those points in END into VIT instead. You could always equip an Anti-Clockwise rune if you feel like you need more stamina.
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>>124227928

Yeah I've been running saw spear and beast pellets for his first two phases, and I try burial blade in his last but still get fucked.

What is the best move to go in and punish him for? The only two that I can really see reasonably are spitting(which is sometimes a bitch in itself) and his big arm swipe(one hit)
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>>124227809
Bait his lava vomit/wide swipes and get a few hits in, then back off. If you're on him when he starts crawling around, you'll get 100-0% stunlocked real quick. If he's crawling at you, dodge towards your left, away from the big arm, and get him to go in a circle around you. The rest is up to you.
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Reminder that anon said we could get a fun pvp bug if we

>coop
>defeat boss
>bring up the gesture menu
>press triangle to switch a gesture but stay in the menu instead of switching
>bb crashes
>send bug report with relevant info/video
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>>124228084
>40%

wut
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Is the Reiterpallasch a good weapon?
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>>124225987
>the perfect 2 hit KO
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>>124228025
Ringing at the boss fog
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Can I get some help with BSB in Ailing Loran, Layer Two?

Glyph is: zmyb
Password will be: bebegee

I'll be ringing in the hall way before the fog gate.
I dislike BSB in every possible way. Pls help.
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>>124228084
they only drop from CRF ludwig on floor 5 of an ihyll chalice. you have to get ebrietas on floor 4 with the hole in the center you can jump down

we're still looking for a floor 4 ebrietas in ihyll
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>>124228104
Awesome, thanks for the advice.
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>>124228084
>believing those fake patch notes.
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this is what happens when normies with anger issues try to kill a boss in bloodborne.
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>>124228296
i got rekt. ;_; sorry!
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Hey /bbg/, has someone, anyone, seen my eyes?
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>>124228512
It's all good, I'm here till he drops. Listen to his screams, they help time your dodges. When he stops screaming, dodge.
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>>124228484
>that couch

disgusting
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>>124228252
Very

every weapon is good

except boom hammer and toshitrus
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>>124228252
All weapons in the game are good.
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>>124228252

Yeah, I'd say it's among the best SKL-based weapons. Pair it with Loch Shield for extra turtle-y goodness.

>>124228428

No problem.

Also, on second thought, you CAN invest a bit into END if you want since 40 VIT is still a good amount of HP that can easily be supplemented with Clockwise runes. It's up to you what you want to put your remaining points into.
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>>124228104
>>124228428
fwiw i disagree with this advice. for pitiful state investment arcane builds can unlock a lot of weapons, e.g. 2 points in SKL on cruel fate gets you saif. that's a good deal. 1 point in STR gets you beastcutter and 2 points gets you tonitrus, 5 points in SKL gets you church pick, etc.

it depends a lot on what weapons you like, and if your weaponfu is saw spear then obviously you're gold. but IMO the only reason not to do it is if you're really scraping points to go over the arcane softcap at 50 (which is a pretty serious softcap, yes tools go up but your weapons won't meaningfully)
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Requesting assistance for laurence, will be ringing at the hunter nightmare lantern. BL 84

I just want beast mode pls. Willing to help others in return/in general
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>>124228314
Are there any anons not busy doing anything? Really don't wanna fight this fuck by myself.
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>>124228725
Does the boom hammer use durability when you boom people?

Also I'm sad to hear it sucks.
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>>124228725

>Tonitrus
>bad

No. It has horrible durability and not much range, but it is a damage-dealing monster with Nourishing bloodgems. I'd say it's up there with LHB and the Saws as being one of the best PvE weapons.
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>>124228629
oh shit i didn't think about that. thanks for the tip m8...one more try!
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>>124228484
>Being so angry that you punish yourself by destroying your material wealth

Some fucks I tell you.
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>>124229004
No worries, his twitchboys will get him a new one.
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>50/25 STR/SKL build
>got a 31% vs. beasts triangle co-oping
>doing 6000-9000 damage combos to FRC bloodletting beast
FUCKING RAD
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>>124229047
oh right I forgot that twitch viewers do that
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>>124228883
>Does the boom hammer use durability when you boom people?
No, it just adds fuck all damage compared to other weapons. I'll admit the idea behind it is rad as fuck though
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>>124228867

I did mention that in my post, but I guess I shouldn't have pushed him into some arbitrary level cap.

I suppose those points in END can be put into STR or SKL, allowing that anon to widen his weapon selection a bit.
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>>124228971
It'll happen, the dream will live on
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>>124229213
The enemy Hunters make the Boom Hammer look way cooler than it actually is.
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>>124229217
yeah i mean there's a balancing act and i'm pushing hard the opposite direction

i'd just hate for someone to struggle to get perfect arc gems and then realize that all they can do weapon wise is chop with a saw. it is a huge investment in time, you should be able to use your weaponfu imo
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>>124228867
An Arcane beastcutter sounds orgasmic but doesn't it have shit arcane scaling?

Regardless, I think I like your idea more. I like to have a bit of weapon variety, ala Dark Souls, so I think i'll do that. After all, it's only a few points. 2 in skill and 2 in strength and I can basically double the amount of weapons I have access too.
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Can a nigga get some help with Rom? Henryk and the younger Madaras can't into spiders. Pass is bbg, I'm level 30 if it matters
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>>124229379
having said that, the DLC opened up the possibility of your weaponfu being kos parasite, which is totally legit and does a LOT for base stat builds

saif and church pick did too, these are really awesome weapons for cheap. before you might invest like 8 points to get a big alternative weapon like LHB and at that point you might as well go 20 for wheel
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>invading like a bat out of hell and disrupting beckoner hunting parties
>still no fanmail

Why won't they notice me?
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>>124228917

But the move set is terrible.
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What's a good level to do DLC and finish the game?
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>>124228971
DID IT COUNT?
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>>124226693
Backstab him through the wall. Run away. Repeat until he resets too far away from the wall.
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>>124229554
Hello Meat Loaf.
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>tfw pvp in Bloodborne for 5 days now and already dead bored
Why, what's missing?
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>>124228629
>>124228971
That was sloppiest victory ever. Thanks again, anon.
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>>124229379

You're right. You should be able to.

In the case that one becomes of bored of the Kos Parasite or the starting weapons, then it's nice to have other weapons you can fall back on. I'm starting to get it now.
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>>124228261
let's halve that bb

seriously what is he doing
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>>124228868
did you just die?
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>>124229862
Sloppy is best
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>>124229528
>>124229379
>mfw decisions
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So, what the hell are the madara's niggas? What relevance do they have to the story? What relevance do they have to the dlc? What relevance do they have to the game at all? Who are they? Where'd they come from? Why'd they randomly decide to show up?
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>>124229791
Proper invasions.
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>>124229791
Bloodborne's pvp is actually kinf od mediocre, and the fact that the damage is so high means that a slight skill gap results in immediate 1-sided victories ~60% of the time, and drawn out, reactive waiting games the other 40% (often with healing spam). It becomes repetitive real fast when so many matches either end instantly or are draw out while you wait painfully for things to finally happen or the other player to stop running.
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>>124229791
Maybe you just arent creative enough.
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>>124229519
all physical weapons have the same relative arcane scaling, which is approximately the average of their two separate scaling values + 10%. while you could minmax to find the apex its well within the range such that moveset dominates

a lot of people think beastcutter just has bad damage and moveset, but as i said this is mostly about your feelings about which weapons you want to use. i would hate to invest chalice time into a character that could only use starter weapons
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>>124227676
Is offer to help, but my coordination is shot for the foreseeable future. I'd probably embarrass myself.
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>>124229791
Your sense of discovery and a less jaded mindset
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>>124229959
yes, that was me

sorry about that, not a good first attempt of the night
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What would be the most effective build at lvl 40? Want to make a low lvl coop character but im not sure what would do best with such few stats available.
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>tonitrus and boom hammer are now charge weapons instead of buff weapons
>each can store up to 3 charges
>moveset changes a bit with each charge
>r1s use up one charge, r2s use up two charges, charged r2s use three

There, these weapons are now saved
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>>124229998
fwiw a good starting point is
bl97 cruel fate
46 vit
12 end
20 str
14 skl
5 blt
50 arc

this can use fucking everything and still hits the vit apex, but is obviously at a low END breakpoint and doesn't exploit Tool scaling

what you can do is shave is this build down based on the weapons you don't give a shit about, e.g. if you don't like logwheel subtract 2 STR. if you don't like pick subtract 2 SKL. and then put those into END or ARC depending on how you feel about END as a necessary stat
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>>124230012
>madman robes with milkweed

Almost worth going through hintertomb
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>>124228314
Dodge forward and right, towards it. Every attack it has will miss. You can literally R1 spam it to death.
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>>124228314
pls respond
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>>124227724
I'm not a foot person or anything. But your character's feet really stand out here
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>>124230389
It's worth it
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can someone help me in cd keeper of the old lords?
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>>124230694
What is the glyph?
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Does anyone else want to co-op for Ludwig? Currently helping the host, but it'd be awesome with a third dude helping. Host is currently doing shit in the forest and will be back momentarily.

PW is bbg and is ringing outside of the Nightmare Church lamp.
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chalice bath shops sell the alternate versions of any weapons you have

FYI
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>>124229791
let me guess, youre only using 2 weapons?
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>>124230414
BSB is just an awful match up for me, even with that info.
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>Gankers

This is why I dont bow or salute when I invade.
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>>124230786
This anon is a liar, you can only get old hunter weapon alts from crf layer 4 bosses.

Ebrietas drops uncanny parasite, that's how I got mine.
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>>124230786
>slowpoke.jpg
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>>124230262

I would love this.

>Fully-charged Tonitrus R1s become slow downward smashes that produce an electrical AoE
>tfw they'd probably have Rakuyo-tier phantom range
>tfw imagining all those tears in PvP

You had one job, FROM.
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>>124230335
I really wish you could equip weapons without the requirements like in dark souls. I haven't used some of the one's I'd be discounting because lol can't equip.

Thanks again though, will look into it more before levelling.
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>>124230262
Tonitrus is fine. It's dull and straightforward but some people like that, it's not necessarily bad

For the boom hammer:
Reduce stamina cost
Increase swing speed of untricked R1s
Change moveset while tricked
Increase damage of the Boom
Give the boom some AoE

Bam, weapon saved.
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I've killed the Shotgun Watcher that drops cursed circular Gems probably 150 Times now. The only off-shape Gem I've gotten so far was a shitty waning one. Anyone know the Drop Chances of Off-shape Gems?
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>>124230964
if you just want to try the movesets you can backup your save to USB and then overlevel
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>>124230930
>>124230262
I fucking wish

Damn it from
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>Newest character since DLC
> up in the woods
> suddenly 4 echoes and a tool called Madaras whistle
Someone please explain
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>>124230262
Make it work like Nero's sword from DMC4, where you can trigger it mid swing with proper timing.
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>>124230982
it's incredible that the boom like, doubles+ the stamina use per swing for a tiny increase
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>>124230905
I got 5 builds in the DLC
In DeS/DaS1/2 I could go with one build for weeks without getting bored
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>>124231061

Any enemy can drop off shape gems. What gem are you looking for exactly? Off shape farming is hell.
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>>124231148
Madara must have fallen to his death. That happened to me with Simon's bow. I randomly got it and was like huuuh? But then I later put two and two together and realized a giant enemy slammed his ass to death when I ran into a hut/
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>>124231061
1%

Good luck, anon. It tool me 8 stacks of bold marks, but that unzipped chikage one shotting even hosts is so goddamn worth it
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>>124230927
I just had a bath shop on the first floor of a rotted isz chalice and it sold all the alternates for old hunter weapons
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The game awards is about to start. There are 5 unannounced games they are going to show. I am hoping Demon Souls remake is one of then. Remember Dark Soul 2 was announced in one of these award shows.
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>>124231182
Anon, bloodborne/souls is not capable of that much fast. You need to be frame-perfect with the red queen. Especially to pull of a max act.

Just make it so transform attacks do it.
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>>124230414
Nevermind. I'm a stupid idiot and it was super easy. Holy fuck. This actually changes everything.
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>>124230737
I can come. still ringing?
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>>124231261
Radial Bloodtinge Gems.

>>124231348
Thanks, I'll keep trying. I want to see how much Damage the Bloodletters L2 can deal with these type of gems
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>>124231257
That doesnt answer my question
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Is 18 Arcane worth it for Blacksky Eye and Augur?
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>>124231479
I want to believe, but I doubt it
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Antler guy is trying to kill me, but I just got the key to his cell, why's he out? Do I have to kill him?
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>>124229554
I know that feel bro, even at times where I completely fuck them up at critical moments like they're a few steps from a shortcut or something and still nothing.
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>>124231560
Shit, sorry. You were a bit late. We just got him with Valtr helping. Thanks though.
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am I the only one that thinks moon presence is sexy?
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>>124231709

The red phantom with the Bloodletter? You fight him 3 times in Hamlet and every time you kill him he drops a piece of his outfit.
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>>124231652
No
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>>124231883
Alright, sweet.
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>>124231780
>>124229554
If you invade with the intention of getting fanmail, you're doing it wrong.

Fanmail is the icing, that extra little bit that lets you know you had an impact. It doesn't always happen. It may never happen. But if/when it does, oh, it is such a wonderful feeling.
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>>124231608

>have to farm off-shapes which have a 1% chance of occurring
>not only that, but you need to hope they have a curse that isn't too detrimental

Sounds like hell, but I can only imagine the insane AR on a Bloodletter with three 'tinge gems.
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>amygdalan arm
>with chalice gems

THIS THIS ENDS ALL FORMS OF GANK. MASHING R1 WAS NEVER SO EFFECTIVE.
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8 months after and the PvP is still godawful.
>dodge circle dodge dodge circle
>hit
>dodge dodge circle dodge circle
>hit
>dodge dodge
>hit (heal)
>dodge dodge
>hit
Why is the PvP so shallow
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>>124232101
Oh, it is hell. the first four off shapes I got were all waning. The first two radials I got both had hp drain.
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>>124230982
Adding to this, moveset changes:
The trick attack is replaced with a 2handed golfswing that runs the hammer along the ground, tricking it before striking. You can follow this up with L1 again for the normal, thrusting trick attack. If you perform a trick attack while already tricked, it will just do the old thrust.

Trick Followup: If you tap R2 after doing a normal trick, it'll transition into the charged version of the R2 immediately, stepping forward and swing the hammer overhead before slamming it down, but consuming more stamina than normal.

Make the untricked R1 combo for 4 hits instead of just 2, with smoother and faster links between each attack

Performing a trick attack from the R1 combo will make it remember where in the combo you were before tricking, and continue your combo where you left off if you continue to R1. This way you don't reset your combo every time you trick attack mid combo.
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>tfw helping people kill ludwig
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>>124232150

The most fun I get out of PvP is invading in high traffic PvE areas like Mensis and Yarhahar'gul and gank players with NPC hunters. Straight up dueling just isn't exciting.
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>>124231869
no
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>>124230210
Did you get the help you needed? i just helped a broccoli dude kill his laurence
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>get to Ailing Loran Floor 3
>light lamp
>immediately attacked by red spiders
Who at From thought this was okay?
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>>124232150
Because like every other game it's a mix of healing being too effective, evasion being strong than attacking, passive play generally having no viable counter and having no real way to be aggressive or pressure your opponent.

BB has the added layer of damage being so high duels usually end in 2-3 hits
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SHROUDED BY NIGHT, BUT WITH STEADY STRIDE
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Orphan of Kos is kicking my ass. Any tips? Arcane build that doesn't have any top tier chalice gems on account of being offline. Mostly using Moonlight Greatsword and Fire Saw Spear.
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>>124232339
...Oh shi-
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Living failures just destroyed my enthusiasm
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>>124232565
COLORED BY BLOOD, BUT ALWAYS CLEAR OF MIND.
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so I'm new and I want to invade people. where do I ring the sinister bell? been ringing it in nightmare frontier and I get nothing.
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>>124232525
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>>124232697
But anon, the sky and the cosmos are one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_8t5ay0-YU&t=3m41s
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tfw can kill every boss in the game with ease

except undead giant
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>>124232847
Nightmare of Menstruation or the dlcs.
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>>124232727
PROUD HUNTER OF THE CHURCH
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>>124232627
Learn how to parry him, farm for some gems in the village

But parry-less OoK is one of the hardest boss in the serie imo, but in a good way.
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Anybody got some good youtube PVP videos? Maybe a tournie or something? There's so much for it for DaS but I can't seem to find anything decent for BB.
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>>124232904
>I can't seem to find anything decent for BB.
>decent
There's a good reason for that
>>
Starting off a new character in this game takes too long.

In Dark Souls (even in 2 to some extent), you can choose where to go, do things out of order, go through a higher level zone at a low level with relative ease as long as you're not a scrub, grab whatever weapons and armours you want ASAP, and be well on your way to your new build.

With bloodborne I feel too pressured into playing in a certain order and feel that it takes too long to get to a more "open" point, such as after you've killed amelia.
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>>124232898
What in the village drops good gems for arcane?
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>>124232552
damage is high because the "meta" stops at an arbitrarely low level

Build are not meant to be in BB

But yeah, PvP is kind of bad
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>maria dead body in a well
>with her weapon
>still have to fight maria

????

did they just fuck up the lore
>>
So is Arcane like int and bloodtinge like faith?
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>>124232627
You can launch A Call Beyond from outside its aggro range and basically kill it before it moves.
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How do i get screenshots off the ps4? I ran into a weird bug with Rom.
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>>124233053
>damage is high because the "meta" stops at an arbitrarely low level
any pvp build you encounter is going to have ~50vit and there's not much point in going beyond that because the returns diminish so sharply. You don't suddenly become a tank by being BL200
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>>124233127
Bloodtinge is damage scaling for gun and blood related weaponry.
Arcane is a mix of Faith and Int.
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>>124233225
upload to usb or social media account (i use a dummy account for this sole purpose)
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>>124233052
the snail waifu if I remember well and some other
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>>124230927
>>124231449

If you want an alternate version of something, you just get the normal one and then you go here;
8i29rqz3

There's a bath up the ladders next to the first layer lantern, it sells everything you need.
>>
Requesting help with Living Failures. Level 53, password bb30. Waiting by the fog gate.
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>>124233289
>post to facebook
>save to computer
>delete facebook post

Why they didn't add in a fucking email option I have no fucking idea.
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>>124233375
Ok coming
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>>124233231
actually each level gives an amount def, even if you dont invest in vit
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>>124233421
i have a separate facebook account just in case someone might see before i delete
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>>124232236
New here, why is waning bad? The bloodletter, chikage, and bowblade all have a waning slot.
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>>124232460
still have not succeeded. I'll ring at the lantern with pw beasty if you'd be willing to assist
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>>124233127
Arcane is int/fth combined, it's the generic 'magic' stat.
Bloodtinge is primarily the firearm stat. It boosts the damage of guns and a couple unique weapons. The running theme of blood-based damage is coming expense of the user's HP. You have a very small number of bullets to use guns for damage, but can generate more at will by sacrificing your own HP. Weapons that rely on bloodtinge generally consume your own HP to do so.

Neither arcane or bloodtinge are ideal as a primary damage stat until about halfway through the game, when you finally start encountering viable damage sources that use them.
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>>124233456
And that boost diminishes sharply as your level gets higher. It never gets high enough to be meaningful against the damage output of +10 weapons with chalice gems.
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>>124233231
>ny pvp build you encounter is going to have ~50vit
I never go above 40. 50 vit is a meme for shitters who don't know how to dodge.
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>>124232339
Im so confused. Are they retarded?
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>>124232904
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GjLHpb3euU

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c0WRyECTHX0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YflsD37o7PA
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How long was Kos chilling inside his mum's womb?

The butthurt fishguy at the beginning of the Hamlet calls him a "wizened" child, and the Orphan definitely looks like an old man.

So how long was Kos lying stranded on the beach? Long enough to turn the town into fish people, I guess.
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>>124233289
Thanks

Cooperator used the wistle and this happened.
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>>124232565

What does this weeb fuck even do?
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>>124233375
Just fyi you need to get off the stairs as it blocks the bell from usage
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can you group up with someone in co-op and invade?
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>>124233714

Incomplete quest. He does nothing,
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>>124233714
You can summon him for living failures if you kill him before the fight. Other than that he just drops his set.
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Did the 1.08 patch fix the snail waifu gems not appearing after you pick them up?
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>>124233616

>Enlarged Head
>doesn't even have jigglebone physics or make squishing noises
>Just a solid block of ass

Fuck you Miyazaki you fucking hack
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>>124233713
wot
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So how is the curse pot thingy? I've actually never played with Arc, none of the tools or weapons really appeal to me except A Call Beyond.

The parasite looks pretty rad though.
>>
>watching game awards cuz wht the fuck not
>all those empty seats

hang in there geoff
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>>124233713

Revenge of the Shadows of Yharnam 2: Brygenworth Boogaloo
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>>124233505
>>124233505
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>>124233881
I'm the opposite, ACB seems so shit.
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>>124229554
>Invade
>Kill them
>Notice they were just about to get to a shortcut or fog gate
>Feel terrible

I think I'm too soft for invasions
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>>124233881
I'm yet to hit someone with it legit
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>>124233845
I was one if not the original detractor, I hated it, but it's growing on me
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>>124232150
Get good instead of whining on forums.
>>
About to fight Abhorrent for the first time.
What should I expect, /bbg/?
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>>124233815
>You can summon him for living failures if you kill him before the fight.

wat

Thats silly.
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>>124233994
because waning gems are better on average for elemental damages. Good phys waning are quite rare
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>>124234131
Expect to do a lot of rolling past his right shoulder.
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>>124233505
It's bad because Wanings seem to be harder to get than for Example Physical Triangles. Atleast from what I've seen, however if I would get a decent Waning Bloodtinge Bloodgem I'd switch to the Bloodletter Version that has a waning slot.
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>>124234131
Hitbox galore and ultra agrresive attacks from him. 3rd phase feels like fighting Whammu from JJBA because he has wind attacks
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>>124234137
But he's not going elemental, he's using a tinge build looking for tinge gems.
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>>124234075
>Not invading with the intention of ruining their day
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>>124234047
>ACB seems so shit.

Get a load of this vileblood cam
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>>124234135
well you can summon henryk for Shadows and Rom if you kill him before
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>>124234131
Lots of dying until you figure out the dodge timings, which are non-obvious.
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>>124233696
Kos a slut and had a son with some dude from byrgenwerth
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>>124232904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwse_u9sA6o
I have another but people don't like it much
https://youtu.be/GepsJFnlLqw
the bbg tourney
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>>124232021
i would summon people on the iron bridge into a game where me and my friend were both havelynning with the intention of getting hate mail

it worked wonderfully
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>>124234256
Tbh I agree with him. 75% of the shots don't even track or hit anything, the other 2-3 shots that track have shit tracking and rarely ever hit people when I use it. Also 7 bullets.

Good for pve though I guess.
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>>124234265

That's even sillier.
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>>124234231
yes i know but he wanted to know why waning are not good for those weapons, hes better of getting an uncanny or lost weapon then grinding for a good waning.
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>>124234178
>>124234198
>>124234280
Would it be wise to call in back up?
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>>124233854
>>124233971
I figured it would go away once we got to rom, but it stayed
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thank you based burial blade anon

that was the last bit of insight I had to use, it was that or nothing
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>>124234432
Don't be a pussy, go learn it solo.

Shoo.
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>>124234369
>Tbh

Is desu not filtered anymore?
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>>124234387
perhaps, or perhaps not
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>>124234514
Smh Tbh
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>>124234514

Smh Tbh Senpai
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>>124234514
kek desu senpai

Yes
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>>124234393
Well the nigga already got 4 offshape wanings so why he's complaining?
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>>124234649
i dont know bud
>>
Holy shit I'm doing my first BLT build and it's boring

*unsheathes katana* was fun and satisfying for the first hundred or so times but I'm starting to slip into a coma

I might have to flesh out my build for the bloodletter by the time I get there
>>
>>124234485
Oh nevermind. It was actually super easy. First try, too.
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>>124234256
>Implying the Cainhurst's samurai/European noble aesthetic mix isn't godly
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>>124234097
>it's growing on me
Get an xray
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>Kos parasite non kosmode deals loadsa damage
MAJESTIC
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So what's the deal with the Fist of Gratia? It looks pretty terrible, but I want to use it on my strength character. Is it shit /bbg/?
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>>124234738

Chikage is boring as fuck. Bloodletter is actually fun.
>>
So I stopped leveling skill to 36 I think.

I'm currently on skill build and maining BoM.

But I plan to make the Rakuyo my main as well, currently its at +8, trying to find some chunks for that shit.

afaik putting more echoes into skill is a waste now?
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>>124234738
Bowblade works with the chikage's stats, fortunately. Bloodletter is where the real fun begins, though
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>>124234928
It exists for one sole purpose, and that's to deal a lot of stagger to enemies that are normally difficult to stagger. You can flinch BLB in 1 punch with it.
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>>124234971
first softcap is at 25, second is at 50. If you want to 36 you might as well go all the way.

How the hell did you manage to struggle through the dlc with the BoM? that thing is a piece of shit.
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>>124234971
you should stop at 50
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>>124234845
>that tentacle+rosmarinus pairing
>that headbutt leap attack

This is why some say kosm
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>>124231869
yes
>>
What's the best way to build for the wheel? Is it some bastardized hybrid of strength and arc, or do I leave one at base and pump the other?
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>>124235028
>You can flinch BLB in 1 punch with it.\
What?
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>>124235105

>How the hell did you manage to struggle through the dlc with the BoM? that thing is a piece of shit.

BoM is okay, have it at +10.

the only struggle i had was with ludwig.

around 200 blood vials spent trying to kill that horse bitch
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>>124235239
Is the wheels tricked form doing arcane damage?
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>>124235347
I think so? I have no idea, I haven't even started the build yet. Just want to give it a try.
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>>124235028

Good to know. Thanks anon.
>>
I hate the DLC
Every boss except Maria is fucking awful
The entire time I felt like I was fighting the game's camera more than anything else.
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>>124235028

Shiiet, anyone have video proof of that?
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>>124235402
Trick form does arc damage yes.
>>
>someone attacks me as I'm bowing
>run around for literally 10 minutes with them trailing behind failing R1s
>start boss fight

I love it
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>>124235239
wheel's scaling attributes change dramatically in trick mode

in normal mode, it's exactly what it says on the stat screen

in trick mode, it does 66% of its listed physical damage and 4 times its listed arc damage

this means in normal mode it is 100% strength all the way, but in trick mode it is "STR/ARC quality," with a very slight bias towards STR

you can do either 50/25, which lets you use the 1h moveset, or (20-25)/50, which restricts you to the 2h moveset but lets you use hunter's tools
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>>124235501

Nice opinion, Mr. Shit Opinion.
>>
>>124235501
We heard you the first time
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>>124235501
>The entire time I felt like I was fighting the game's camera more than anything else.
That's not limited to the dlc
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So I'm going for 50 BLT. Am I just using the bowblade for its shot attacks, and are they worth it over a gun? Also, what is the main purpose of bloodletter's L2? Just a useful AOE attack that helps reduce the damage caused by frenzy? It seemed to bring the hotdog down to his knees when I was in front of him and not close enough to seem like I should have hit him, so I assume it has some pretty decent range and some stagger potential.
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>mfw just went into NG+ to buy bastards and forgot to get the string from mensis
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>>124235893
I know its not but its definitely something common among all the bosses in the DLC excluding Maria. People gave B-Team shit for using a lot of humanoid bosses but I feel like I know why they did now.
>>
So I've just learned what 'defiled' means in the context of Chalice Dungeons.
>gradually erodes life
Is it actually as bad as I'm thinking it is?
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>>124235301
>>124235559
Actually, yes
Not the guy who said it but he probably saw my webm to know that it works pretty great
I haven't played with it enough to know if stats or upgrade matters much but I was srrc'ing with it at +10 and 25 str
On average as a summon it takes about 2 hits to break limbs of large bosses, compared to several R1 combos it's a big improvement, and keep in mind bosses have much higher poise and stagger resistance with summons
I've been meaning to see if I can bully the shit out of Loran Darkbeast or NG+ Paarl with it solo but I've just been too lazy
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>>124236031
BB's camera is just a special kind of shitty. The camera is a physical entity with physics-observing collision that you move around the world, which means it can get blocked and stuck on terrain and will simple become locked in place until it squeezes free. No other souls game has a camera as bad as bloodborne's, but I blame it mainly on them working with a new engine and it being their first title with the ps4 devkit.
>>
>>124235501
I hate Ludwig because I can't figure out his erratic moves in phase 1. I think it's too short and that's disppointing but it's overall pretty good. The new weapons really made the game more fun and the new sets are also cool. I really liked the Orphan fight too. Something about the way he screams makes me feel sorry for him.
>>
cursed dungeon amygdala is shit
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>close your eyes
>look inside your head
>you had eyes inside your head the entire time!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subarachnoid_space

>It is occupied by spongy tissue consisting of trabeculae (delicate connective tissue filaments that extend from the arachnoid mater and blend into the pia mater) and intercommunicating channels in which the cerebrospinal fluid is contained.
>the trasverse diagram looks like both an eye and a butterfly

>cerebrospinal fluid
>brain fluid

>arachnid
>spider

>dura mater
>djura
> dura, is a thick membrane that is the outermost of the three layers of the meninges that surround the brain and spinal cord. It is derived from mesoderm.

>meninges
>In mammals, the meninges consist of three layers: the dura mater, the arachnoid mater, and the pia mater
>Mensis

>Rupture of membranes (ROM) or amniorrhexis is a term used during pregnancy to describe a rupture of the amniotic sac. Normally, it occurs spontaneously at full term either during or at the beginning of labor. Rupture of the membranes is known colloquially as "breaking the water" or as one's "water breaking."
>water
>birth
>splish splash

Captcha: waterfalls
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Post hunters.
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>>124236380
Frenzied
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>>124236003
fierce
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>>124236253

Game being much faster than Souls doesnt help either. Locking on a enemy and dashing a couple of times fucks up the camera.
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>>124236380

Hydrocephalus is a build-up of fluid on the brain. The excess fluid puts pressure on the brain, which can damage it.
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>>124236380
Mensis is actually a corruption of menses, the latin root of menstruation.
Menstrual cycles are linked to the moon and pregnancy
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>>124236592

>mensis
>menstruation and moon
>ISIS
>religious fanatics who commit crimes against humanity

Seems about right
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>>124236380
nice 1 anon

>mfw
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>>124236380
A lot of this seems like reaching
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>the beckoner has begun the final battle, retuning to home world

how much would you give for a sinister bell that allowed you to interrupt boss fights, anon?
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>>124236380
>the trasverse diagram looks like both an eye and a butterfly
>Butterflies bear their young in milkweed
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>>124236393

Can't see shit captain/10
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>>124232857
I want to have a friendly chat with the person that designed those bosses
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>>124236147
no it's worse
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>>124236968
that would be me, what's on your mind anon?
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>>124236380

>Miyazaki went to all this effort to make everything fit
>in addition to the milkweed/latex palesap/butterfly nectar connections
>western devs prefer to put more effort into finding ways to pander to SJWs
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>>124236941
>Butterflies
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebrietas
>Ebrietas is a genus of skippers in the family Hesperiidae found in the Neotropical ecozone.
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>>124237275
>phantasm were ebreitas larva all along
Jesus christ this hole goes deep,
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>>124236575
>excessive brain fluid can make you look like an ayy
>to ascend to the cosmos, one must look deep within the sea
>"the grand lake of mud, hidden now from sight...
>the cosmos, of course!"
THE DEEP SEA COVERS THE COSMOS
GRANT US EYES SO WE MAY SEE PAST THE MUD AND WATER AND GAZE UPON THE ELDRITCH TRUTH
MOTHER KOS, HEAR OUR PRAYERS
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>>124236941
>>124237275
What the fuck is going on.
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So between using this setup of nourishing gems and a simple +10 MLGS with 27.2% gems i barely see the difference of overall damage output in pvp even though it certainly feels that enemies with huge arc resistance are getting more damage from lost version.
I honestly don't know what damage formula this thing uses, probably gonna grind a few millions souls and level up to test different stat combinations later.

So far i think that a little more optimized nourishing setup with +15 phys secondary effects is going to beat physical MLGS even on my stats.
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>>124237048
>>>/v/
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>>124236971
How so, family?
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>>124233840
No I checked
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>>124236393
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>>124236957
it looked so much better on my TV
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>>124237275

>Ebrietas in latin means intoxicate or drunk
>pungent blood cocktail description: In Yharnam, they produce more blood than alcohol. as the former is the more intoxicating
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>>124237415
You are limited to something like half your normal health.
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>>124236393
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Just got the DLC and I fucking destroyed Paarl with the Boom Hammer. Thank fuck because he's usually the hardest boss for me
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>>124237369
Its a much better qualoty weapon than ARC weapon. Just do a 50/30 or a 40/40 str/skl. You'll only be getting bad damages off your beams which is like 100.
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>>124237582
have fun with the DLC bosses if you find Paarl difficult
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why was kick removed from bb? kinda sucks no?
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>>124237732
It was never in bb
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>>124237732

You have guns and beast roar
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>>124237582
The first time I did paarl was with the kirkhammer and he was a complete joke. I ended up bashing into a corner with repeated flinchs and then just stunlocking him to death while he cried and scuttled like a big electric undead baby.

My second time was with the blades of mercy and it was an abject nightmare because I literally could not hit his fucking ass and the camera got stuck on him everytime I tried to make for his back legs, effectively blinding me until he moved and I lost my window.

I eventually just had to sit in front of his head, dodge every combo, never use a blindspot and very slowly chip away at his head directly.
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>>124237732
who is kick?
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>>124237732
No shields really. It's primary purpose was kicking them aside. It's back in Dark Souls 3.
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>>124237732
Kicks were removed from the alpha and transform attacks were buffed to give high stagger and guardbreak as an incentive to use those more and be adaptive with your transformations and transformation attacks
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>>124237732
Because, like always, from completely underestimated the power of shields and so felt it appropriate to remove any and all viable counters to shield turtling.
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>Just spent an hour wandering around the Research Hall looking for that damn key
>die after spinning the staircase up from twelve of those egghead fuckers rushing me
>finally find the key
>never found my echos
huh.
Was I suppose to do anything to the egg guys that wouldn't aggro me? I just left them all alone.

Either way time to get killed by a hunter. I'm terrible at fighting hunters.
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Did they change the Cleric Beast?
I don't remember its fur being that dark, and i especially don't remember it killing my ass 5 times
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>>124237973

You might just be a dummy
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>>124237930
>never much used transform attacks
>mostly because I always used the reiterpallasch and the rifle spear and going from the tricked mode to normal is actually a longer attack than anything short of a charged R2.

>>124237973
So it goes, anon.
I killed Rom, Witches, and the Shadows of Yharn all on my first try, but then I made a new character with more efficient stats and I couldn't beat any of them for the life of me. Witches killed me probably three times, and that's Goddamn terrible.
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>Boom Hammer is so slow it won't combo anyone who isn't asleep at their controller
>The damage it does barely makes up for the stat investment
>The move set is mediocre
>The stamina consumption is horrible and unjustified

Did the person who came up with the idea for this weapon piss of Miyazaki or something? I have never been more disappointed with a weapon.
Worse than Tonitrus tbqh.
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>>124238190
>Shadows of Yharn
What is this, Good Hunter's Wooly World?
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>>124238190
>witches
I could understand fucking something up and accidentally dying once, but not 3 times... Those fuckers are casual mode easy.
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>>124237449
Shouldamadeyourskinblue/10
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>>124234315
>>124233690
some decent videos in there but damn that music is so fucking terrible. chantards are such faggots
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>>124238079
>>124238190

Seriously though, i think its fur is darker than it was originally
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Is the lecture hall the BEST place for farming echoes?
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>>124236393
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>>124238586
It's not a depth 5 chalice so no
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WHY CANT I USE A Pthumeru Ihyll GLYPH WHEN I ALREADY CREATED A Pthumeru Ihyll CHALICE? FKING BULLSHIT
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>>124238426
I KNOW.

I have no idea how it was happening. They were so easy the first time, it was just uncanny.
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>>124238620

perfect for breeding
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>>124238586

this>>124238632

also nightmare of mensis from mergo's loft:middle is the best place in the overworld

if you go heir and moon runes, you will be flooded with echoes
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>>124237695
The DLC bosses have been pretty decent. I've always known the strategy for Paarl but he scuttles around way too much when I fight him and he spams the hell out of that AoE when I'm getting up
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desu i'm just really sick of rakuyos senpai baka
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>>124238849
Use a wooden shield. Stops them in their tracks.
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Do we receive any information about who the King of Cainhurst is?

What if the king was actually Logarius?

In Cainhurst castle, we see a painting of a man with long, scraggly greyish hair.

On top of that, the statue of Logarius Alfred stands in front of is already weaing a crown. Logarius' weapon, the wheel also shares a common trait with the chikage, in that it has a magic effect that harms its user. There obviously was also a connection between the healing church and Cainhurst castle, considering how the scholar that stole the old blood made Cainhurst his first port of call.

His attacks with the flaming scythe also bears a lot of resemblance to the Pthumerian elder, showing a connection between him and the Pthumerians, just like Annalise.

The executioner's gloves also stated that it was a family heirloom that was passed down over generations, which was used for the amusement of Cainhurst nobles. This would mean that the executioners had some presence in the castle before the Vilebloods were killed.

It could have been that Logarius and Annalise had trouble conceiving a child for whatever reasons, and her longing drove her to desperate measures. She could have become so desperate for a child that she was willing to take the forbidden blood and even have a child with a Great one, like Queen Yarhnam did, despite what happened to her.

After taking the blood, Annalise was slowly corrupted by it, and started thirsting for more, sending her guards out to hunt. And all this time, Loragius had to watch his wife slowly fall to blood lust, until the killings went too far and he could stomach it no longer. After wiping out all traces of her crimes, he might have been the one who put the mask on her to prevent her from taking any more blood. Annalise was the only Vileblood left alive, due to the fact that Logarius couldn't bring himself to kill her, or even harm her in any way. Thats why he chose to turn himself into the anchor, in the end, to protect his wife.
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>>124238813

>also nightmare of mensis from mergo's loft:middle is the best place in the overworld

Are you talking about the autistic pigs and the shadow fucks
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>>124238641
You're probably trying to make a crf ihyll when you made a normal one
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>>124238978

yep
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>>124238978
No, he's talking about the other enemies in Mergo's Loft: Middle
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>>124238641
if it has any rites (most glyphs do), you need to have created a d5 chalice with those rites

making one d5 frc chalice will suffice for all 3 tilesets
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So is there any information on what this thing is? I've only seen it once, in the first story dungeon and never again.
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>>124238783
Her lips are large though, anon.
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>>124238586
not even close
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>>124237627
I'm actually starting to doubt that.
It seems to be a weapon that requires a pretty specialized build. Something like an arcane quality with high end nourishing abyssals.
I did a small damage test against pvp opponents and it seems that both nourishing and 27.2% versions are doing overall close damage. Sometimes the version with arcane does less damage by around 30 points, some other times it suddenly outruns the normal by like 50-100.
Here's the webm with 27.2% version...
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>>124239074
There's a hostile one in another story chalice that causes near-instant frenzy on hit
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>That one in a million time when the controller stops reading for a second at the worst possible moment
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>>124238957
The original king was Cain the First Vampire as claimed by the guide book. We don't know jack shit about any other king in their history or if there were even any (unlikely as it is).
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New player here.

Just went through yaharghul and that area was pure fucking cancer. Holy fuck.
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I got this game a week ago and love it to death, but holy shit that framerate during co-op and pvp. I helped someone through forbidden woods and I will not be surprised if the fps was in the single digits at times.
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>>124239095
Priscilla cosplay when?
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>>124239153
...and here with nourishing ones.

This thing certainly requires a good deal of testing.
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>>124237519
Jesus christ, you're right.
good thing I have 50 Vit, I guess. But I had originally thought it constantly drained your HP.
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>>124239249
It really really is
>recycle all of the enemies from the very first area of the game
>but now they deal 500 damage a hit
>and infinitely respawn until you find and kill their spawner hidden somewhere deep in the level.
>the entire stage is just a linear series of hallways and stairs, with some hidden dead-ends for loot.
It's like something out of DaS2.
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>>124239249
Lol you haven't even started yet
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>>124239065
>>124239048
i created a crf isz chalice and also got the blood rock out of it. so why shouldnt i be able to join an crf ihyll one?
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>>124239475
have you made an ihyll root chalice?
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so i just got a +25.3 SKL scaling gem from Watchers?

i had no idea watchers could even drop scaling gems, that seems potentially really OP
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Did you know that Mergo's Wet Nurse is an ELITE boss in bloodborne?
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>>124239353
That damage spike may have been because of a counter hit.
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>>124239587
What?
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>>124239430
Yahar'Ghul's actually a fairly vertical, dense level. Agreed about the enemies though
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>>124239318
Whut
Why Pricilla. Pretty sure she doesn't look like her.
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So is the Church Pick a solid SKL weapon? I love war picks and I just want to know if I'd be wasting my time with getting it and farming up more stones.
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Did you know that if you roll while unlocked and fire your firearm you'll do the unique shooting animation that Gerhrman and Maria do?
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>>124239624
Conan was on the game awards a minute ago and read off his script that MWN is an elite boss in bloodborne
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>>124239475
if it's the bloodrock isz from either of the OP spreadsheets, it wasn't CRF

>>124239542
you only need to make one d5 CRF to unlock them all (though you need the actual root chalices for all 3)
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>YFW FROM LOST
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been pvping with pizzacutter and jesus christ this weapon needs a big fat nerf.

this is gonna be the weapon that drags all the shitters in this game through all content. you just mow down everything.
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>>124239604
Even if second is a counter hit, base damage should've been around the same level.
First looked like a counter hit as well.
They also both were around the same level.
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>>124239430
Well, it did have those skeleton/dead body coffin monsters, but the respawning enemies was literal artificial difficulty. And the geaveyard hags being there didn't even make sense.
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>>124239430
It sounds much more like DaS1.

>recycled enemies that do more damage
Skeletons above ground do less than below ground
>infinitely respawn until you kill their summoner
Again catacombs
>the entire level is linear
Basically apart from random little "holes" to fall down that just net you 1 item and take you back like 100 feet.
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>>124239752
>yfw they showed clips from DS3's trailer along with Bloodborne's footage
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>>124239741
i know that but it sounds like he made an ihyll story chalice and is asking why he can't make a crf ihyll root
maybe i'm just being dumb though
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>>124239752
What won?
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>>124239757
>a very slow halberd with an incredibly telegraphed l2
Not even close to bloodletter.
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>>124239430
The difference is that BB has a lot of Aesthetic design, where DaS2 didn't.

Remember Castle Dragleic? Where most of it was black, boring walls with nothing of interest?
But Yahar'ghul has nothing blank at all, people sculpted into the walls, and set dressing.
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>>124239752
Lost what?
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>>124238957

And if you look carefully, you can see Annalise is wearing a garter belt over her mask.

Back in the old days, a lady's garter was supposed to be a sign of her virtue. What if the mask was crafter for her as some kind of device to stop her from lusting for more blood?

The blue garter is a sign of purity, and the mask, if made of silver is supposed to be able to ward off blood, as described in the Cainhurst knight set. The silver may also bee effective in stopping her from smelling blood. This goes against everything associated with Annalise, such as the rune "corruption" or even her title, queen of the Vilebloods.

The mask could have been put on her as a sort of chastity belt, to stop her from seeking blood, or consuming blood dregs. After all, if we look closely, we can see just what blood dregs kind of resemble.

Logarius locked his literal semen demon wife away to both protect the world, as well as her reputation. maybe he also didnt want the fate that befell queen Yarhnam to fall on her.


Also Vaati is probably going to make a prepare to cry about Logarius and Annalise. Calling it now.
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>>124239729
>Conan
Literally who?
>game awards
Literally what?
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>>124239752
It's okay. The fact that they got nominated in the first place says a lot about where they are now
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>>124239542
>>124239741
okok, now i feel dump i thought i only need the great ihyll cchalice, not the toot one. where do i get the root one? after the queen?
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>>124239752

CDPR is cool though.
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>>124239959
fucking cool anon, I thought it was just a blindfold, I took the mask as a sort of scold's bridle
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>>124239729
Did Conan play BB even?
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>>124240086
The headless Blood-letting Beast drops it.
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>>124240105
Disagree, Witcher 3 was crap

Not bothered about whatever this is, but CDPR are the most overrated devs out there
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Im thinking of getting bloodbourne to play bloodbourne+disgaea is it worth getting? I loved demon souls
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>>124240086
the 2nd boss in every chalice drops the root version of that chalice

so you have to do ihyll through the 2nd floor before you're allowed to do CRF ihyll
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>>124239752
Which game won?
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>>124240246
Damn that's some weird bundle FROM made
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>>124239752
and apparently some random indie shit has better art direction than BB.

A few more awards and I might be okay with someone nuking California tomorrow
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>>124240326

Witcher 3
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>>124240246
You know you're asking a general dedicated to this game if it's worth getting, right? Of course we're going to say it is.

I bought my ps4 for Bloodborne alone and I don't regret it.
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Whirligig Saw build, lvl 100, need some suggestions.
>50vit and 25 end, or switch some of the vit to end?
>Is the cannon worth a loss of 2 points of str?
>carryl runes, thinking 2 hp 1 stam
>best downside to have in gems?
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>>124240227

>i dont like the game so the devs are overrated

CDPR are great, they love making shit for their games and then giving it out for free.
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>>124240332
Its a bundle where you get ps4 1tb and +2games
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LOL fucking ori won better art than bloodborne.
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>>124240246
it shares many aesthetic principles

the gameplay is fairly different. the core systems are the same but much more fast and violent
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>>124240347
I saw, I'm fucking done
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>loading up ps4 with falcom boss themes from kiseki games and ys
>suddenly chalices are 300% faster and more cuhrayzee
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Game of the year is already announced?
bloodborne already lost to some indie shit on artial direction what the actual fuck
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I just realized
>eye pendant you get from Laurence says there's 2 cathedrals and the second one contains the research ward
>you enter the research ward by following the same path that leads you to the old church at the entrance to Yahar'gul
The 2nd Cathedral is what become Mensis. There were 2 cathedrals because the healing church is actually the marriage of 2 schools: Mensis, with their research ward, and the church founded on the remains of Laurence, which would later become the Choir. That's why the Healing church's upper echelon is controlled by 2 separate groups.

The 2nd Cathedral became the foundation for the unseen village, to allow the researchers to continue their studies in secret.
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>>124240451
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Ori has better art direction than Bloodborne though.
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>>124240385
>>124240326
>>124239752
What is this? VGAs? Game of the Year? What?
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So is the bowblade worth using as a secondary weapon in bow mode with a pure BLT build?
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>>124240451

>Deviant art furry flash shit

Kill me
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>>124240541

Agree.

Bloodborne only had one art direction and the palette was basically black and dark blue.
>>
do you guys think Bloodborne has any chance of winning at the game awards
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>>124239959
Logarius being her husband conflicts with the description of the crown of illusion, but the symbolism on the garterbelt is real
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>>124240551
Best developer
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>>124240441
No, they made a bunch of cosmetic garbage for the Witcher 3 and removed one of the quest lines and pretended it was free DLC, and idiots ate it up. I don't know how retarded you would have to be to think that a whole questline released days after release was not just removed from the game to be released as 'DLC' later.
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>>124233375
Clearerd the Failures and Maria, now I could use some help in the Fishing Hamlet.
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>>124238957
>>124239959
> his new throne
This is from Crown of Illusions. It's possible they mean the throne at Logarius' Seat though.


Also though, on the same idea:
>"Acts of goodness are not always wise, and acts of evil are not always foolish. but regardless. we shall always strive to be good."
Make this fit into the context. I can't quite manage it, but I'm tired.
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>>124240635
>Fallout 4 is nominated as an RPG

Hahaha what?
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>>124240551

youtube.com/watch?v=x4WXkKQiEw8&ebc=ANyPxKpFuPaweRKtFVlKSte9vD38-R7VGqoVtMOAcjOVedPdhVZ40gQuqw-tFUmXhyr7ywF8UiGFLy-HtQAFaYkTszjrn3b6iA
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just got back to the shadows of yharnam on my ng+ playthrough coming back for the dlc

died while killing the second of the three


i hate this boss so fucking much
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>>124240632
In a western country? Pfft. no..

Western doesn't get RPG and character action stuff.
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>>124240541
>>124240584
Ori is an artsy game that tries to throw the fact that its MUH ART right into your face.

Most people who watch these awards don't even know what art direction actually is. Like, what it ACTUALLY is
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>>124239959
The mask being a vampiric chastity belt makes a lot of sense, but Logarius is a martyr for a reason. Annalise tells you when you enter her chamber after killing him that she has had no followers in a long time. Logarius wasn't protecting her, he was containing her. He and other executioners, as implied by the fact that you find their set there, probably raided cainhurst, destroyed the vilebloods, clad Annalise in the mask and then sat down, with Logarius sacrificing himself and becoming a martyr to eternally guard her chamber and prevent any from ever coming to serve the immortal queen or do her bidding.
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>>124239757
>make fun weapon to use
>pvp shitters complain
>gets nerfed
Souls games were NEVER meant to be balanced towards pvp, go play something else if you can't handle it, worst than smash fags I swear
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>>124240793
>worst than smash fags I swear
woah woah woah i wouldnt go that far
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>>124240396
Your opinion as valid as anything on /v/ desu.
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>>124240751
>implying I'm going to watch that shit.

If I didn't care enough to even know it was happening, what makes you think I care enough to actually watch it?
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>>124240793
BB ain't nerfing shit when pvp nerds are crying about it.
It only fixed two glitched and nerfed one overpowered pve tool, that's all.
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>>124240597
>Bloodborne only had one art direction
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>>124240441
>they love making shit for their games and then giving it out for free so they are good devs

I've got some fryer grease and old motor oil you can have for free too
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>>124240793
I'm the one using it you dumb cunt. It's a one or two hit kill in almost every situation and it melts down bosses like it's nothing. It needs a nerf, deal with it.
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>>124240940
day one
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>>124240781
or people in this thread, evidently
>>124240597
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>>124240541
It's revolting photoshopped generic deviantart shit. I hate it.
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>>124240576
Yes. Just get the Lost version if you don't mind farming for the Bloodtinge gems.
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>One of my favorite games is getting a remaster

ITS HAPPENING

>Shadow Complex

NOOOOOOO
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>>124240597
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>>124240793
>i have reading comprehension problems

Please anon, please, point to where in his post he even mentioned PvP.
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>>124240541
>just because it has brilliant ugly colors and gloomy things it's better
what the fuck
are you stupid?
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>>124240718
>>124239959
>>124238957
>An old, sealed summons.Like the first of its kind, it is an invitation to Cainhurst, but for whom is not known, as it lacks an addressee.
> "Ahh, I feel my master's hand at work."

It lends believability to the idea that Logarius was a Cainhurst Noble. He may have been the one who made the unopened summons and left it for Alfred.
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>>124241160
Ugh. Are you kidding?
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>>124241160
Anything entirely Sony isn't coming tonight. That'll be on saturday.
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>>124240597
I'm gonna chop off your head and shit down your neck.
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>>124225987
>graveguard helmet
Top Tier taste
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>>124241160
i know that feeling....
>One of my favorite games is getting a remaster
HOLY SHIT IS HAPPENING
>Shadow Complex
.......What the fuck is this shit?
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>>124241253
>just because it's edgy and sickdark means it's better

are you stupid?
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>>124241057
Oh no, lets also nerf bloodletter and ayy's l2, amy's arm allowing you to knockdown lock watchers and kite all bosses from afar, make minigun useless and nerf bowblade's damage to the level of evelyn or lower. All of them are too strong, right? Game is not allowed to have strong tools for specialized builds, right?

Eat shit nerd.
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>>124241267
now this is reaching
from the description: 'but for whom is not known, as it lacks an addressee'
it's just an invitation on the table that you can use to invite alfred
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>>124241418
>just because it's edgy and sickdark means it's better
>edgy
>sickdark
>>>/v/
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>>124229521
>level 30
How the fuck did you get to Rom?
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>>124241457
Alfreds suspicions are totally valid. Logarius was his mentor and master. He senses that Logarius had a hand in things. I buy it. It's fiction. It's probably true.

>as it lacks an addressee
It's also sealed. We don't know what it says on the inside.
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>>124241456
pizzacutter is too strong in every situation. I'm sorry that you need crutch weapons in order to play the game, but you just gotta deal the inevitable nerf.
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>>124241457
This. The line about his master's hand at work was just him thinking it's divine intervention.
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I'm fucking hating Defiled Chalice right now.

why is the fucking Keeper kicking my ass right now.
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>>124241612
Whatever you need to think to support your terrible logarius is the king of cainhurst theory
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>>124241242
>been pvping with pizzacutter
you dumb fuck
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>>124241697

Spam R1 and use beast roar nigga
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For those with str/skl builds, is augur worth the 18 arc investment?

being able to parry while 2Hing seems useful
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>>124241614
It's not even a best halberd added by the DLC and far from being an overall best weapon.
Killing a few retarded pve shitters does not make the weapon strong.
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>>124241683
>divine intervention.
But he didn't thank the gods or the good blood. He guessed that his master was involved.

It's a good reason for why the envelope exists in the first play.

>>124241719
>your
It's not mine. I just think examining it is a good idea. This version of the story DOES explain why the wheel and Logarius himself use blood magic type stuff. It also finally makes sense of the paradox of the executioner's gloves being a cainhurst heirloom.
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>>124241930
>One of the precious secrets of Cainhurst. The old king's crown is said to reveal illusions, and expose a mirage that hides a secret.
And so Logarius donned the crown of his own volition, determined to prevent a single soul from stumbling upon the vile secret.
What visions did he see, sitting serenely upon his new throne
this directly contradicts the theory, as if he had been king he would not don the crown of the old king because he would be the fucking old king who had always worn the crown
it's a dumb theory, you're dumb
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>get the Beast Cutter on my Threaded Cane character my first character
>it's a STR big boy threaded weapon
FUCK
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>>124241719
You're exactly the kind of reason why discussing lore in these threads is almost always terrible.
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>>124241930
I meant that in the sense that he thought the spirit of Logarious was at work.
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>>124232339
Haha, that happened to me once. although I didnt have that weapon to capitalize on the surprise
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Anyone want to help with defiled chalice layer 1? BL76

Setting password to bbg if someone responds
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>>124240420
bump
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>tfw 90% of Saif users use it like another gay Saw weapon
>don't know the beauty of its extended form

Extended Saif > short Saif.
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>>124241930
Logarius and his wheel don't use blood magic, they manipulate vengeful spirits.
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>>124242124
>if he had been king he would not don the crown of the old king because he would be the fucking old king who had always worn the crown
The crown itself is a precious secret. It could easily be the magical relic of an old king they kept hidden as implied by the description. The Queen of England doesn't actually ever wear the crown jewels.
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>>124239752
Meh, they already got an award.
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>mfw Milkweed + Kos Parasite dodging

This is the best thing ever
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>>124242351
>>124242351
>Used to slaughter the Vilebloods in Cainhurst. Bathed in pools of their blood, and forever steeped in their ire.

I agree that it's vengeful spirits at play too, but it's also blood related.
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>>124242319
I actually just warped there. Let me jump in.
gimmi a minute or two to get a different rune.
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>>124242485
which one?
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>>124241614
I can only imagine how much will your anus be devastated after meeting a good bloodletter user.
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>>124242376
>be the king of cainhurst
>don't wear the crown and never see your wife and her chambers
fuck you
this is too dumb for me I'm out, continue to make logical leaps to support this theory because big m will never tell you you're wrong, but this will always be stupid
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>>124241871
if you don't need to pump the other stat, extremely
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>>124242349
I'm always afraid that I'll get parried when i'm using the long form
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>>124242349
>actually bowing to cainhurst set rakuyo shitter
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>>124242714
>never see your wife and her chambers
Have you considered the idea that the whole area back there is a magically hidden safe area? You can't even walk there by reasonable means. You have to climb to the room and cross a bridge.
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Who is a bigger asshole? Patches or Konami?
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>>124242349
>manage to get in one hit which is so slow and leaves you so open you got hit for a ton of damage anyway
>just shoot the guy and parry him

Yeah looks sweet mate
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>>124242319
I'm there. Where are you ringing?
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>>124241697
slap him with a quick hit or two then backdash, he will always do a double swing. If you back him into a corner early you can repeat 5ever.
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What level should I stop at if I want to be able to do MP?
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>>124242878
Outside the boss room. Thanks btw
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>>124242854
Patches was a bro though. He always led you to treasure and stuff

Konami is an asshole that takes things away from you
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>>124242819
it's the place where they hold court, among I'm sure other things
there are two fucking thrones there, it's not a panic room
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Can't find if low arc% + flat or straight high arc % is better for parasite. Conflicting info and tests all over.
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>>124242879
I already murdered him. Slashed him three times in a row and than immediately do a parry shot.
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>>124243010
>it's the place where they hold court
There's no room. It's stuffed with statues and you literally can't even leave it without teleporting or something and part of the journey involves literally jumping off a roof.

It's a secret space. Probably unused until they had need of it.
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>>124242854
Konami, Patches is a lovable scoundrel
>>
HELP ME PLS

Headless Bloodletting Beast. replay and i post pw
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>>124242878
Ty anon
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>>124243416

Ok.
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>in need of insight
>got as far as one reborn
>ringing small resonant bell
>no one is summoning me
Damn, what is a more common boss for people to get help on?
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>>124241534
>kill gascoigne
>axe amelia
>get caught in a gangbang with shadows of yharnam

The longest part of the journey is literally the 10k for the key, and that's only if you can't pull off the old yharnam skip
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>>124243456
And dead. I'm actually in the same spot of this chalice as you are. May as well help each other with the bosses if you want.

Wanna go through my second floor with me and I'll do the same for you after? Pass word is still the same.
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>>124243457
>>124243457
bbg678 per srrc
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>>124243345
there's a place to kneel before the thrones, and a large antichamber
whatever anon
whatever
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>farming blood stones for new weapons

Worse than bosses.
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>>124243559
Yeah sure, I'll ring my small ball at the lamp now
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>>124243502
What level are you? Vicar Amelia and Father Gascoigne always seem to have a lot, but they're pretty early and probably out of your level range. Maybe try Rom and the Shadow of Yharnam?
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What did Laurence look like, familias?

>>124243601
>Doing chalice dungeons on character builds that simply will not work with brain gems

This is what makes people drop Bloodborne.
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>>124243594
>there's a place to kneel before the thrones,
Yes. It was made for the royals. Gotta have room to kneel.
>and a large antichamber
an elaborate and gaudy display fit for a special royal chamber.
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>>124243671
>small ball
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blunderbuss or pistol for str build?
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>>124243758
I would hope that he didn't look like that
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>>124243758
Not that.
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lol, manvsgame's wife just outed him on twitter saying he's addidcted to adderall and coke and that he's actually brain damaged from regularly staying up 60-80 hours.

don't let bloodborne do this to you, anon.
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>>124243972
literally who
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>>124243889
>>124243926
>help me guys I cant read filenames and don't want to contribute to a discussion but I wish to circlejerk and get some (You)s

here's your free (You)
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>>124243457
luv you
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>>124241921
for pvp i honestly prefer the whirligig 1h moveset

it's fast like a saw, but since it's blunt you can put blunt gems on it and break 900 AR no sweat
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>>124244090

ayyy

np
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hope that blood starved beast from the dlc wasn't carrying anything important cause the fucker sweep attack'd himself through the level.

putting him such a small space was such a stupid design decision. i don't understand how from can have the backing of sony yet still be as incompetent as they are
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>>124243972
It was so easy to tell, I honestly assumed meth considering how long he would go streaming without breaks but adderal makes sense too.
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And we lost Game of the year over a casual game
gg bros fuck everything
>>
DaS1:
>game of the year
DaS2:
>game of the year
Bloodborne
>not game of the year

HA!
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>>124243601
Run ptwrx6tb. Obtain chunks and stones from easy bosses, then use the blechoes to buy singles and twins.
>>
I mean Witcher 3 is cool but fuck
>>
>witcher 3 was GOTY
>BB didn't win anything at all
well at least it wasn't FO4
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>>124241921
>>124242349
parry kills aren't really good for showing off a ewapon
>>
>won nothing

OH COME ON
>>
>Witcher 3 won GOTY

That's alright. At least it wasn't Fallout.
>>
>>124244219
isnt this only the second awards show
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>>124243736
BL75. I've also gotten as far as the lighthouse lamp and have the bloodletter/bowblade. Maybe I will try farming twin blood stones instead, but I thought it might be more fun to wreck some bosses.
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>>124240704
Really could use the help getting Rakuyo. First lamp, level 56, no password set at the moment.
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>>124242571
Playstation gold award or some shit.
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>>124244258
but how can they show off their leet skill if the other fights are r1 and heal battles that take 5 minutes?
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>>124243191
i can outright confirm that for regular-ass hitting people with your tentacles, high arc % is better. this is really obvious (though i have also tested it) because the damage of tentacle strikes blatantly exceeds the stat screen AR of the parasite by a large amount, which knowing the damage formula is only possible if the attack has a huge multiplier. flats have never taken multipliers

there might be an exception if you often use multihits, like the L2 because multihits tend to have a lot of attacks with a low multiplier, and flats are good for this. but if you want to maximize your straightforward hit damage i am confident you want high arc% (and one cold)

it's also worth noting that %arc/+arc flats are one of the worst things to farm in the game
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I am really bummed that Bloodborne didn't win anything

well

I hope From gets recognized next year with DkS3
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>>124244223
I've never made a chalice with a code or anything. What're the bosses?
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8 fucking chalice dungeons with 300+ discovery and not a single fucking rock

thanks b team
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>>124244219
Where exactly did DaS and DaS2 win GOTY?
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>>124244303
This.
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>>124243972
now that everyone is a celebrity, everyone gets to have celebrity problems

thanks, andy warhol
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>>124244557
BB honestly didn't really deserve to win. It's a good game, but it's a small game with lots of flaws. Considering how narrow the ultimate scope was, it doesn't really have an excuse for the number of issues it had, and it's hard to justify goty for a ~20 hour game.
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>be helping at spookies of mordor
>get summoned by 'aaron'
>slash the pyromancer
>no damage
>have to really work for it
>end up killing 2 of the guys alone while he fucks off and almost dies to snakes

That was kinda fun. I guess he was on NG+?
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>>124244558
Brainsucker then the Watchers then the Celestial Emissary by himself (no little aliens backing him up).
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>>124242874
All part of the plan son, you have no idea how many people fall for it.

You gotta learn to bait and use the distance advantage, especially on the transform attack since it's so retardedly fast and has a huge reach.

The weapon can be pretty methodical if you put your mind to it, but it's definitely a brawler's weapon, you're gonna get hit a few times but that's part of the fun.

>>124242786
The disabled need love to anon :^)
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>>124236393
ok~
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Fuck this shitty show. I hope Sony delivers in PS Exp.
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>>124243671
Fucking hotdog. Reringing
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>>124244692
>it's hard to justify goty for a ~20 hour game
THAT'S IT

BURN DOWN THE INDUSTRY

NOTHING MUST SURVIVE

THIS IS SOME NAUSICAA, DEATH-SPORES IN THE RICE FIELDS KIND OF SHIT
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>>124236393
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>>124244704
Man, the sounds super easy.

But I don't meet the requirements for it. I guess I've been neglecting my chalices.
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>>124244047
you know the filename cuts off with an ellipsis, yes?

and what is there to discuss about laurence's looks? he speaks off camera in a cutscene, we find his skull, we fight him as a fiery reskin. you're retarded if you think there's anything else to it.
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>>124244692
you say that, and yet I hit 530 hours last week

>>124244760
DeS remaster cap this post

>>124244720
pretty cute
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>>124244713
>people still try to l2 in pvp
the average memegig user is dumber than the average ludwigs user
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>>124244398
I'll try to help ya but I am kinda bad against them. Then again I haven't tried to parry and I heard they are really weak against that shit.
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>>124244858
>he can't read full filenames

oh god
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>>124244842
That's amazing.
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>>124244842
Jesus christ that's well done.
Which hat tho?
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>>124244760
Ace combat 7

The guide theme just got BTFO'd. PS4 is maximum comfy.
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>>124244692
>for a ~20 hour game.
lol
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>>124244956
>(You)
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>>124244842
That's beautiful.

>>124244849
https://youtu.be/FDW_KYirKaE
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>>124236380
This is reddit levels of retardation.
>>
>>124244949
Ha, I was that guy once right after getting the pizza cutter. I just did the joy gesture at the invader after he killed the host. because I felt that stupid for even trying.
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FUCK THIS SHITTY GOTY AWARD SHOW. FARMING FUCKING GEMS AND BLOODBORNE DIDN'T WIN FUCK. NOT EVEN FOR BEST ART DIRECTION. FUCK WESTERN MEDIA RACIST SHITS.
>>
whats the quickest way to amelia(?) so i can get to dlc and get that bowblade? i started a new game just a bit ago and already killed bsb, where now? i forget.....
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>>124244518
So what should the farming look like? Grab a cold waning from an elder then grind bone ash hunters praying they drop some arcane radials?
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>>124244858
Do you not use 4chan X, senpai?
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>Reading nominees
>Destiny expansion nominated twice
>Bloodborne omitted from multiplayer and soundtrack awards
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>>124244949
>filename
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>>124245161
>not linking to benjie's video
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>>124244842
you should be helping people kill the defiled dog on that character.
>>
>>124245343
BB multiplayer sucks dick tho
>>
>>124240597
What the fuck does that even mean?
>>
I just dont get how this game wasn't even nominated for best soundtrack.
>>
>>124244831
It was going so well ;_; That charge tho

Think that NPC is just gonna make it harder for us
>>
Fromsoft didn't have the money to pay off the awards :^ ))
>>
>>124245423
VGAs are a western gaming circlejerk.
>>
I'm glad Bloodborne lost to Witcher and not Shitout.
>>
>>124245331
nope
>>
>>124245409
I'd take it over fucking cod or destiny.
>>
>>124245032

How do I get this theme?
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>>124245305
buy uncanny parasite (radial-radial-triangle)
get a triangle from ebrietas or watchers
one cold radial
and then either another cold radial or an arcane radial from bone ash (i think the bone ash radial was better by a small amount)

honestly i prefer chalice boss farming because your odds of getting a perfect gem are much better (since it always drops the right type, which is 90% of the problem), and you can also get blood rocks. i just savescum like mad
>>
>>124244953
Was that you as "gg" with the Milkweed Rune a few minutes ago?
>>
Anyone need help with anything, bored and want to Co-op.
>>
>>124245409
Nah it's pretty fun m8
>>
>>124245423
Can't push that non-western media too hard. Thank god nobody in that room is smart enough to know witcher 3 isn't part of their western hugbox.
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>>124239353
I've hit 700+ in pvp on the counter hit with a 40/40 two 26% and one 27%
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>>124245586
I've killed that bitch so many times and has only dropped one arcane.

This is suffering
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>>124245620
Nope
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>>124245423
That award was pretty apparently a formality for MGS5, it didn't matter if it was nominated or not.

Still want to know why they asked fucking Joosten to sing (half of) Quiet's Theme when Donna Burke was already going to do Sins of the Father for them.
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>>124245041
You're laughing but you have to know that most casual gamers only played through the game once, then never touched it again.

Just look at the Polygon article about The Old Hunters DLC where they complain that they are forced to play the DLC on NG+ because they only have one character and they've already beaten the game and that From Soft should just give you a free level 65 character so you can jump right into the DLC. Todays gaming industry is fucking cancerous and if you just watched the game awards you probably know that.
>>
should i use mlgs with 3 nourishing gems?
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>>124245343
i mean this is literally the most mundane AAA game show possible

the only reason Bloodborne is present at all is that it was "Sony's big AAA title for this year"

From "graduated" to an "acceptable" AAA studio after Dark Souls
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>>124245251
i wasted time tryin to pay attention when i could have been playing.

it didn't even win best art direction
what the fuck
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>>124245502
I bit it too.

Alright lets try it without him.
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>>124245580
>create jpy PSN
>buy or import a Yen playstation card
>>
Is Ludwigs still best quality weapon?
>>
>>124245586
Last time I tried to savescum I corrupted everything, including the dlc license. Guess I'll be grinding for a while.
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>>124245696
Well, props to that guy. We finally beat the two Street Sharks down the well.
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>>124245759
>locked to JP players
why i this even a thing?
>>
>>124245423
Well the music is absent save for bossfights and rare exceptions for certain areas and it's kinda hard to appreciate the soundtrack if you're focusing entirely on not dying to the boss
>>
>>124245578
well, yea, but being better than absolute shit doesnt make it good
>>
>>124245772
Ludwig is the best STR weapon by far.
>>
Gatling gun is so fun to finish people of with.
>>
>>124245726
you have two choices for modern game criticism

either the most pragmatic, capitalist shit possible that is completely driven by financial success

or a postmodernism completely detached from any of the strong feelings that players experience, because postmodernism thrives on detachment

it sucks
>>
>>124245502
I really hate this boss right now.


Any anon have tips on fighting Hotdog?
>>
>>124245913
That didn't answer my question.
>>
>>124245749
thats all i really cared about. i knew western media wouldn't give it goty but to be robbed on art direction. come on man no other game has lovecraft shit. fuck this industry is bullshit.
>>
>>124245726
But that's exactly why it's funny. Casual gamers definitely weren't getting through the game in around 20 hours. Especially at launch when the connectivity was spotty as all fuck because of the firmware update.
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>>124245301
pls halp
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>>124245816
>being summoned in the spot you wanted to meet
>either keep getting kicked by the host or experiencing horrible lag worse than any i've ever seen in bb
Well damn...
>>
>>124244949
Fucking kek, god I love just slowly walking back and then shooting them when they do that.
>>
>>124246137
after you kill BSB you can go right out of cathedral ward into the healing church workshop, then go through the basement to get to upper cathedral ward where amelia is
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>>124246028
Always stay near him and center.

Bait the head bite attacks and punish the backswing

Do you need a summon or something?
>>
Can anyone help me get the wheel? Logarius is taking me to brown town. Pw is bbg
>>
if gaming journalism was like film journalism bloodborne would be regarded as one of the greats, especially the innovative way it tells the story, all souls game actually, instead no one gives a fuck, that's why videogames are a joke
>>
>>124246028
>went and complete loran chalice to get bastards
>create defiled and give up after 20 tries on dog
>go do coop on small chalice
>come back to find my loran chalice has been replace by a send defiled
>the defiled is cleared all the way to amy

wish I could tell you how to recreate this bug to help you but thats all I remember.
>>
>>124245726
games are a growing niche
>>
>>124246037
>>124246241
salty general
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>>124246228
Be there in a second friend
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>>124244692
BB was the only non-blunder of this year.

Fallout 4 turned out to be lies, MGSV had the most cut content know to man, the witcher 3 didn't deliver anything but the story.

BB and Splatoon were the only decent games of the year, not counting handheld games.
>>
>>124246228
Where do you want me to ring my bell?
>>
>wasted time watching BB get cheated out of two awards
epic, time to make an arc character
>>
>>124246028
Alternatively, does anyone else want to help us out?
>>
>>124246313
>>124246374
Right outside the fog, thanks in advance.
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>>124245343
That's a fucking crime. Bloodborne's OST is one of the best I've heard in years and completely blows the rest of the Souls series out of the water.
>>
>>124246038
I thought I was being generous with the 20 hours figure. My first blind playthrough took 15 including all of the optiona stuff (except ebrietas, I never found her my first time through) and I figured others might waste an extra 5 dying to bosses, getting lost and whatnot.

The game is short and it's not particularly hard. If you can play assassin's creed, you can play bloodborne and once you have the basics of the controls and a decent idea of what gets you results in combat you can R1 mash every boss to death with an appropriately upgraded saw cleaver.
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>>124246312

not really, I'm glad my favorite game isn't associated with this shitfest of shilling (buy our game on steam for 33% off) and rigged decisions

they even desecrated iwata with that joke music and the google images

also the fact that her story and witcher 3 are the biggest winners says it all really, bloodborne is too good for that
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>>124246028
Not anon, but just use the head strategy and repeatedly bop him on the nose.

>get close enough to bait a bite then back up
>wait for him to start to retract his head, this will lock him into his recovery animation and prevent follow up bites
>when he is in the recovery animation hit him on the nose
>Repeat this until his head armor breaks
>then just spam BMA ash shots with the repeating Pistol into his face

If you run out of bullets and he is still alive, just go back to nose bopping. Also keep an eye out for him to shake. That means he is about to do his charge attack. At nose bopping range it is easy to spot and to side step away from.

^if you do it like that, the Hotdog is one of the easiest bosses in the game.
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>>124246513
That's bullshit but I believe you
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>>124246446
Ringing now
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>>124246241
Give it a decade. I guarantee it DeS, DaS, DaS2(to a lesser extent) and BB will be recognized with near OoT levels of rose-tinted goggles.
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>>124246356
I'll have to play JC3 and Xenoblade before I jump to that conclusion.
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>>124246241
agree man. there is no lovecraft game on this level. i'm fucking salty. witcher 3 will be forgotten in 10 years when it sucks to play while bloodborne will still be enjoyable. remember when dragon age inquisition won last year? who remembers that? fucking garbage industry.
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>>124246645
DaS is almost already on that level
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>>124246513
>15 hours blind
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>Want to make a pure Arcane character to try out Lumenwood covenant
>Can't level endurance or str/skill
>Out of stamina after 3 weapon swings
>Fire Hunter Axe +6
>At Ludwig

I have no idea how i'm supposed to do this guys. Ludwig might be possible since he has very safe spots but Living Failures, Maria and Orphan?
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>>124246705
Eternal Darkness does Lovecraft way better.
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>>124246545
"my favorite game didn't win, clearly the awards are rigged"

bloodborne was just alright bruh
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>>124246705

worst of all witcher 3 is the most casualized of the witcher games

when you take in to consideration who votes on these decisions makes it clear how bloodborne lost, and why her story is the biggest second winner of the night
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>these fucking loadtimes
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>>124246771
If you can take out ludwig, you can take out living failure and Maria. As for Oprhan, hurry up and do this before they patch it.
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>>124246705
>when it sucks to play
Witcher 3 already sucks to play.
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>>124246812
Haha. Fuck off.
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>>124246513
Mash r1 against Laurence IS the best strategy, good catch anon :^)
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>>124246771
saw spear, do the jap strat for orphan and backstab him
maria is staggerable, parryable and easy as fug
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>>124246374
>>124246313
Thanks guys, time to wheel it up.
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>>124246736
Precisely. It's getting thrown into all-time lists left and right, and plenty of "journalists" are writing odes to the game's storytelling, world design and sense of achievement. Which is actually kind of nice, but what pisses me off is DeS goes completely unmentioned in most of these instances while it's imho a more charming game with a lot more polish.
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>>124246604
This would be easier if I had a longer weapon. And if I wasn't in a Defiled Dungeon.

>>124246226
I have a anon friend with me, but more help is always appreciated.

Password is bbg if you feel the need to help us.
We're gonna need to do it again for him anyways, so anything to make this go faster would be great.
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>>124246935
i know it sucks to play, but it's going to take 10 years for this shitty western media to realize.
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>>124247000
Well, DeS wasn't multiplatform and spawn a bunch of memes, one of which being the foundation for the development of the sequel. It only makes sense.
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>>124247016
Ok I'll come too
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i don't understand why anyone even watches "the game awards"

like, look at the press release. it's literally just a corporate event. it's go90, activision, microsoft, nintendo, sony, rockstar, ubisoft sponsoring a media event where they give awards to the products they sell and stream the event on the television channels they own

it literally features Conan O'Brien, Trey Parker, and Imagine Dragons

it's the most incestuous thing possible, total vertical control of the entire product stack and all the profit that can be made from it. it has literally nothing to do with any kind of critical establishment
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>>124246241
The gaming industry is, at its core, a software industry funded by a hardware industry. Story, gameplay, art direction, sound design, narrative integrity and whatnot are barely even secondary concerns. They exist as categories for awards as a formality, but the list of winners in every category was decided from the beginning by matter of which sponsors made the most money, as well as a bone thrown to the indy industry wherever it'd be least offensive to everyone else (art direction, of course)

The fact that souls games tell their story through ambiguity and interpretation essentially excludes them from mainstream recognition in the category of narrative. If you can't summarize the entirety of the game's narrative in an objective and holistic paragraph, written in simple english, then you don't have a story. Award shows get off on feigning objectivity and when a narrative is built in the idea of being subjective to its audience then it doesn't matter how good it is, it simply isn't compatible with the method of an awards show.
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>>124246935

it's basically shadow of mordor by cdprojekt red
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>>124246951
I'm serious.

>>124247016
What weapon are you using? Have you tried jump attacks? And I was talking about the defiled version too. The strategy works on both of them. The defiled version just tends to need a few additional nose bops.
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>>124247000
Okay now hold on there buddy
DeS is definitely more charming, that's fine
But polished? Really?
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>>124247151
Thanks, m8.
We're by the fog door.
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SKL/ARC or STR/ARC? I'm generally too busy with work so only weekends are free

I'm torn between the Moonlight Sword, Pizza Cutter, Wheel vs BoM, Rakuyo, the scythe
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>>124246771
Even worse that the base game doesn't have any elemental gems for the normal gem slots.

I'm literally missing 30% damage because of this
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>>124247179

gaming is a joke and it will stay a joke as long as this is our awards show, this is worse than the mtv movie awards, it's horrendous
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>>124246960
Laurence didn't exist when I beat the game. Though I beat him on NG by doing exactly that. His first phase is literally the 1st boss of the game with chalice stats and fire. His second phase is 'dodge left and mash R1 when he stops flailing'. The guidance rune from ludwig lets you tank a comical amount of shit and R1 it all back.

I imagine it's harder on NG+ but do you really think "If you beat the game and then go through the whole thing again, it's the proper difficulty and the game will feel longer" is a good argument to the mainstream audience?
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>>124247307
STR/ARC is actually even more viable now while SKL/ARC is still a joke
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>>124246241
>f gaming journalism was like film journalism
Film journalism is even more corrupt than gaming journalism, but then again I thought that complaining about the state of gaming journalism was a thing for muhsoggyknees and losers.
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>>124239752
They were never going to win, and anyone familiar with the subculture surrounding gaming media knew that the moment the nominees were announced
It just can't compete against the Witcher being the quintessential "GOTY Critical darling that lets the panel put on their big boy britches and pretend they're film critics for a single night"
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>>124246812
stfu tranny.
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what the fuck, bloodborne didn't win a single award. Literally lost art direction to a indie 2d project.
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>>124247307
arcane, like bt, is only worth a great deal of investment or minimal investment for requirements
hybrid builds like that are inherently weak but at least str has the tony, bumhammer, and wheel
but skill/arc is fun as fuck
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Is the Cannon worth losing 2 points in str?
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Did Bloodborne win anything in the VGAs? Ive heard it didnt win the art direction award, which is fucking BULLSHIT.

I am so mad right now. Miyazaki deserves at least 3 fucking awards for this GOAT game.
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>>124247697
No
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>yharnam shadows bullshit stretch attacks hit through the environment

okay goodnight everyone bye
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>>124247564
>>124247728
bros scroll up lots of salt man. i'm fuming.
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Anyone want to give me a hand with Rom? Password is bbg123
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For the past couple of days everyone's been complaining about fucking Orphan, why? He's the 2nd easiest boss of the fucking DLC, like really /bbg/, you can't be THIS fucking casual.
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>>124247129
Levels are consistently denser, poiseless system was better, nothing really stood out as sorely as the Catacombs, Blighttown, Crystal Caves, Demon Ruins/Izalith, TotG. It felt more consistently well-designed. Even the bosses, gimmicky as they were had more going for them than most DaS bosses.

All opinions tho m8
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>>124246926
I can't believe they actually fixed the cathedral hunter I actually had to git gud to kill him
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>>124247373
with every generation of new media industries have gotten better at seizing control of and integrating the critical establishment to create and sell advertising

this is why music and stage criticism are excellent, film is pretty good, television is a mixed bag and videogame criticism is garbage
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>>124247593
I know, but after finally getting the ranged bowman I always wanted, having to make to with the Reiter/Chikage+Evelyn, I still want to go full weeb with either the laser sword or Maria's
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>>124247809
I honestly can't see how someone could find LF or Maria harder than him.
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>>124247492

not really, you still have influential people who care about quality and can't be bought, you have major festivals that cherish creativity and quality; cannes, berlin, sarajevo, venice, sundance, good films and good directors get recognition, even at the oscars 40% of the time actual quality stuff takes the awards

and we get a mtv movie awards level show, but it's somehow even worse, this is why no one takes games seriously, I'm just glad I got to buy BloodBorne and hopefully FROM makes money from it so they can make a new game just like this and not let everything become casual garbage and hipster indie games
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>>124247164
That doesn't make it any less infuriating
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>>124247728
He got three awards from Japan earlier in the week. One of which was fan's choice.
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>>124247129
DeS had memes, BB too, but nowhere as cancerous ad PRAISE DA SUN XDDDD.
I still like Umbasa a lot better, since it defines the setting not a single autism character.
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>>124247861
you can do it until he untrickes it and regro him then leave once tricked. I just got away with doing that. it helps to if you agro with with poison knifes.
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>>124247252
Beast Cutter and Saif.

Wouldn't be as bad if BeastCutter wasn't slow.

>>124247151
>>124245502

Alright. Messenger's turn.
Already got my bell rang.
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>>124247886

>this is why music and stage criticism are excellent, film is pretty good, television is a mixed bag and videogame criticism is garbage

I agree 100% with this statement
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>>124247787
Yeah I see, sorry.

So fucking bullshit man. The awards was fucking rigged.

Now From is gonna think Bloodborne is a pile of crap that lost to an indie game, I feel so bad for Big M.

And WHY the fuck did some generic tolkien like fantasy RPG "ALL UR CHOICES MATTER" won over a fast paced lovecraftian action game that did steampunk sorta fucking right.

The fact that Witcher won over BB AND MGSV is fucking crazy
I
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>>124247995
If Sunlight Covenant, Praise the Sun Emote and Patches are in Dark Souls 3 i'll be really fucking upset.
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>Pizza Cutter
>Pizzas didnt exist in Bloodbornes time period

Nice plot hole Hackazaki
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>>124247938
I haven't seen their finances but I'm sure they made plenty off of Bb. From playing tenchu, AC and Souls I get the feeling From knows how to stretch a moderate budget
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>>124246926
How is the guy in the webm doing 1600 damage with call beyond? I have 50 arc and I only do like 900 when I hit the Orphan.
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>>124247764
They are easy as fuck, but that Gomu Gomu No shit gets me every time.
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>>124248139
I dont think they care that much for VGA

nobody does
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>>124231652
The auger is considerable depending on if your main weapon is mainly wielded two handed so you have a way to parry and a quicker backstab.
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>>124248167
>Being upset about trusty ol patches being in the game

Why bruv? what did he do to you?
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>>124247886

The larger the consumer base of younger audience, the easier it is to manipulate the marketing of criticism. Younger people aren't experienced enough to call bullshit and are far more prone to act impulsively to hype.
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>>124248168
fuck me he's looking good these days
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>>124247938
Cannes and such are awards made by people who are willing to appreciate films as art. VGAs are the Oscars of games they are industry driven awards.

Secondly even if there were videogames awards like cannes, those would be hipster/sjw circlejerks that award interactive movies like life is strange, we don't know how to appreciate videogames as an art yet.

And finally who gives a shit, BB doesn't improve it's quality if it is awarded, it doesn't need recognition from anyone to be good or bad.
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>>124248167
Patches has been in fromsoft games longer than you have, m8
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>>124248270
does it parry players?
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>>124248167
The first two are already in but patches is a once per IP thing
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>>124248167
The black decaying sun is a huge plot point in Ds3. I'm pretty sure if we get a co-op covenant, we will get some blood-crazed version like the League. The sunlight covenant might even be the PvP covenant this time

>>124248262
Call Beyond's damage depends alot on how many projectiles you land. The further away you are, the more likely you will land the majority of your shots.
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>>124248167
Patches is pure husbando material though
He always sells you cool shit and gives you helpful and 100% true advice, pretty much the most trustworthy guy in the games
Bloodborne definitely had the weakest patches though, he doesn't sell any uniques and only serves to replace chalice messenger baths in dungeons when you get him to move, and his role of sound advice gets replaced by a guy who gives opposite advice
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>>124248167
You leave Patches out of it. He's in DeS, he's in AC, and his actor is great.
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>>124248428
If I get any closer, he aggroes. I must be positioning myself wrong.
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>>124248409
Tentacles parry, yes.

>>124245502
Play it a little safe this time. We'll focus on hotdog.
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>>124248445
Spider Patches>Hyena Patches for aesthetics though
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>>124248486
>AC
As in Ace Combat?
What?
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>>124248167
I agree with all but patches he transcends into all of fromsoftware games.
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>>124248051
I think you should be able to use one of those to land the hit. I usually do just fine with the Axe's L2, and that isn't the fastest attack itself.
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>>124247530
Kinda funny you say that because that's how I imagine people act when praising bloodborne to high heaven.

Look, bloodborne was good but it wasn't amazing. This general is reminding me of Undertale fans - going absolutely insane for what's at best a decent game
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>>124248547
No, stay away at max range. You get 10 shots of Call beyond and if you damage him way past his 2nd form trigger, he'll stay in his first form for you to take out.
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>>124248139
>now from is gonna think bloodborne is a pile crap for losing

You honestly think they give a fuck?
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>>124246645
This is what I find funny. Souls games caused such a gigantic impact on this industry and they are actively talked about to the point they've become the sole refference for many things, including difficulty. But then you have games like witcher 3 being considered GOTY when there is pretty much fucking nobody talking or even playing the game anymore. You don't even hear anything about this shit and it just had an expansion come out. This game certainly has great writing but it's bound to be forgotten because that's already what's happening to it. Now compare that to Souls games, which people reference and talk about on a daily basis.

There's no comparison.
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>>124248586
assassin's creed, another popular from game
armor is a core feature of its gameplay
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>>124248549
making an arcane build
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>>124247564
Who fucking cares.
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>>124248586
Armored Core, anon.

>>124248628
Yeah I was doing fairly well with the BC actually. It's long enough to not make me get hit by him.
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>>124248401
>vgas are the oscars
if the oscars were like the vgas american sniper would have swept the awards.
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>>124248586
jesus christ
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>>124248586
As in Armored Core, you nerd.
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>>124248749
The fact that american sniper won something should tell you how bad the oscars are, I don't know why I'm refuting your strawman anyway.
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>>124248678
You're listening to a small vocal minority versus a silent majority. And as dedicated as we are to Souls games, the monetary splash mainstream games make is much bigger even if swiftly forgotten.
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>>124248761

Armored Christ?
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You're telling me MLG isn't an arcane weapon, but quality?
Fuck.
I already leveled the requirements to use it on my full mage.

Time to restart I guess
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>>124248586

air condition anon, you turn in on in the healing church
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>>124248139
>rigged

Stop using this word when it doesn't apply. It's not rigged, it's the CURRENT STATE OF THE GAMING INDUSTRY. CDPR didn't fucking bribe them to win GOTY it's gaming journalism being fucking garbage and full of people who don't even know what makes a good game a good game.
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Does anyone have that webm of a guy walking into a dark room and then a sage rushes him?
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>>124248915
You get the best weapon in the DLC at the end which is pure ARC.
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>>124248965

Underappreciated and overwhelmed.
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>>124248915
ARC Quality.
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>>124245502
Are you going to summon?
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>bloodborne is not amazing its just decent

Loving this meme

Its a 8/10 at least, and the GOAT of the soul series
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>>124248817

Never heard of it.
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>>124248874
Armored Core returning would kinda be like the return of Jesus Christ.

And both died for our sins. ;-;
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>>124248587
>>124248486
>>124248362
>>124248408
>>124248445

Patches just breaks my immersion. When i see Patches in Bloodborne, i don't think "Oh, that's an interesting character, i wonder what there's to him and the lore behind all that"
I just think "Oh, it's patches. Ok."
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do bridge wolves not drop shards anymore?
I've been farming them for half an hour and nothing, just blood vials
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>>124248873

I know I am and that's precisely the problem with this industry: appeal to the masses.

Gaming and gamers as I see them nowadays are the modern equivalent of yesterday's TV and their audience. You know, that braindead guy whose brain has been shut down by TV and that's where he gets all his opinions from. This is the kind of people that is the target audience of the gaming industry nowadays.

The fact there isn't a SINGLE group of reviewers who can actually use a rating system in at least a semi-effective way where 0/10 doesn't mean 7/10 says it all.

If this were a serious industry, the critics would give praise to where it's actually due, regardless of the masses.
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>>124249134

They died so there could be a better future.
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>>124249025
Yeah, that's what I was originally gunning for, but I decided I'd get the MLG as an alternative weapon and to help carry me through the dlc at SL25.
So much for that :^(
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>>124249171
You don't think that when you see the moonlight?
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>>124249102
I have, we've been waiting on you. BB matchmaking acting up as usual I guess
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has it been patched yet? can we coop now?
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>>124249179

Many of us get this. Yes, we understand it.

You guys are starting to sound like geriatric hipsters. This is how it's always been, how it is now, and how it will be in the future.
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>>124249179

I don't feel like critics are generally worthwhile in any medium, actually.
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>finally trashed Laurence after two days of getting my shit pushed in

THIS FEELS SO GOOD.

Granted, I'm on NG so it's probably more embarrassing than anything. But still.
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>>124249274
Fuck. This might mean the servers are dead again.
Exit your game and enter back in. I'll do the same.

>>124247151
Other anon, are you have problems?
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>>124249354
no, not yet
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>>124248873
>the monetary splash
well yeah, that's literally everyone's criticism of the show, that it is just a financial award
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>>124249262
Don't know, the MLGS has a place in Dark Souls lore, but i think it's really retarded that it's in bloodborne even though it was added to the lore of ludwigs story in an almost decent way.

So yeah, i forgot to mention that, i definitely do not appreciate MLGS being in Bloodborne but i don't think i would mind it being in Dark Souls 3
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>>124249387
Nope I'm here waiting for you
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>>124249009
Anyone?
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>>124249124
The narrative was the best part of it and by far the best of the souls series, but the pve was weak, mainly due to the uninspired boss designs, copious amount of reused enemies and vestigial rpg system. If you missed a a lore note or 2, then the story stops making sense, and many of then are easy to miss because they don't visually stand out the same way item pickups do, or were otherwise on optional side paths that distracted the player from the main path or imminent boss encounter they wanted to do.

I think the story probably lost most people around Amelia, as they missed the devnote mentioning the password being a byrgenworth adage and so were lost completely from the point of the skull cutscene onwards.
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>>124249396
when??
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>>124249517
probably never, anon
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>>124249262
not him but i'm honestly sick of seeing MLGS

it doesn't look cool and it wouldn't be worthy of meme status even if it did
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TRY TO HIT ME AGAIN WITH YOUR PEA SHOOTER, I FUCKING DARE YOU AAAA
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I am so sorry anons

Ringing my bell again
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>>124248139
>I feel so bad for Big M.
Do you really think he cares?
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>>124249512
>uninspired boss design

Don't mention that. I said that the other day, that most of the bosses along the main path of the game are poorly designed and don't take advantage of the games gameplay mechanics and people just saw that i critiziced their favorite game and told me to fuck off to /v/ and to stop shitposting whatnot.
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>>124249651
It's fine. I decided to put the near full charred set on. Might wanna do the same. IT's probably saved me a few times.
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>+7 Church Pick

I should not be having this much fun with a weapon that isn't even fully upgraded. I am loving everything about this weapon, holy shit.
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>>124249675
fuck off to /v/ and stop shitposting.
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>>124249512

Enough lore is given through inescapable cutscenes. You are given a blood transfusion, get assfucked and die. End up in a place where you're told to hunt, and you do it. Told to end the nightmare. You find and kill said nightmare, go and accept your death. Good job, you beat the game.

For those that delve deeper, there's more to be found, but the people who take the other path don't give two shits about the story and they just want to play the game. So it works out for them.
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Would this build be good with 2 27% gems and a 31% tinge gem?

http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/9021

Also what would be a good second weapon?
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>>124249675

Fuck off to /v/ and stop shitposting.
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>>124249459
>MLGS has a place in Dark Souls lore
>Get a sword made from moonlight by cutting off an albino dragons' tail
It wasn't established at all, it was just there
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I just started playing a day ago. I got the 3 bells and I'm dicking around in the Cathedral Ward, the place with the big guys with the walking sticks. How come I can't use any of my bells? I wanted to invade or get summoned or invaded.
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>>124249675
But like 3/4ths of the bosses weren't on the main path.
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>>124249830

You know, it was ridiculous as fuck lorewise for that to happen, but from an RPG gameplay perspective cutting tails for weapons did have a certain charm.
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>>124249675

let's be honest here, you watched a letsplay on youtube
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>>124249880
you've gotta open all 3 gates in the area.
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>>124249880
You'll need to unlock all of the doors and shortcuts in the Cathedral Ward. Namely the two huge ass gates.
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>>124244858
You can literally just mouse over the filename.
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>>124249675
>poorly designed
How so
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>>124249939
Yes but that doesn't change the fact that the really well designed bosses such as Amygdala, Ludwig, Orphan, Maria and BSB are the exception and not the rule
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new thread when?
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Do I need dlc weapons too? For the trophy? Fugg, I don't wanna grind through dlc with my first character.
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>>124249625
>that gatling gun npc in the DLC that drops the gatling gun
Holy fuck I hated fighting that cunt. Actually led me to use the Iosefka vial because I ran out of regular vials and did not want to die to that shitter.
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>>124250019
>cleric beast camera
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>>124249675
>don't take advantage of the games gameplay mechanics

>Every single boss has lore reasons as to why certain gems work better, plenty of ways to rally back health, ways to get viscerals, no gameplay mechanic went untouched for almost any boss
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http://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/9022

Why are the damage numbers on the hentai initiator so low?
Does Mugen just not calculate it correct because jank?
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>>124249791

>31% tinge

Bad news anon, Bloodletter has no circle slot.
Either full 27.2% or become korean.
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>>124250132
Nah they're a separate trophy list
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>>124249651
>>124247151

The cheese is real.
Alright. Ready to do third floor?
I'll start ringing.
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>>124250128
Whats wrong Eri?
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>>124249970
>>124249976
That's kind of weird, but okay.

I'm 23, am I too high to bother trying for PvP/coop in some of the previous areas? I don't know how level and networking are in this game.
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>>124250163
>walking backwards into walls
Why does everyone here have problems with the camera during bosses? They're in huge wide open areas. There is NO reason to have any camera problems outside of claustrophobic areas with regular mobs.
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>>124250245
>>124247151
Thanks anons. I'll ring my bell now
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Any way to tell what NG+ you're on? I beat Gascoigne but got a different amount of blood echoes than on the wiki, so that doesn't work.
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>>124250163

Cleric beast didn't have that problem. Camerabeast did. And yes, that was a flaw. I don't think anyone is gonna deny that.
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>>124250205
>implying half the people in bbg actually play the fucking game
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>>124250212
You sure? I just got all the weapons in vanilla but no Hunters Essence trophy.
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>>124250320
You're fine.

You might want to try heading to Old Yharnam, you should be able to stumble upon the way, and try there, always bunches of people going in there thinking it's the next area.
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>>124249459
>the MLGS has a place in Dark Souls lore
You realise the 'lore' was shaped around the sword as another way to shoehorn in the weapon just like it was in BB, right?

MLGS has been in most of From's games, it's a nod to the past, when it's in a game any 'lore' behind it is molded around its pre-existence.

MLGS fit into BB much better than DaS' lore anyway.
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>>124249459
No. MLGS in DaS is as much as fan service as it was in DeS or many other From games after the King's Field series, where it's actually a plot device.
I'm kind of surprised it they gave it that much importance this time.
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>>124250163
Thats dependent on how you fight him, if you stop strafing around him the camera wouldnt be an issue. Also if youre gonna mention cameras, I would think you'd talk about the one thats been given a fucking name for it.
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>>124249171
But he's implied to be a member of the school of Mensis, and has demonstrable knowledge of your predicament as a Hunter in the dream. Possibly indicating Mensis was closely familiar with the Dream, since their whole purpose with the ritual was to beckon the Moon like the event which created the dream in the first place. Idk I thought he was pretty tasteful. They even flipped his character around to be the religious nut he so much despised in the Souls game
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>>124248139
Witcher deserve reward too, fuckin fanatic. Even Japs loves Witcher. Even mister M. But this shit is really pathetic and unfair >Literally lost art direction to a indie 2d project.
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>>124250358
Always get Gerhman's weapon after you kill him to keep track, like keeping Gwyn's Soul in DS1.
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>>124250397
Did you get the Hunter's Torch?
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It's my first time playing through and I must say.

Loran is a welcome change to those fucking pthumeru dungeons.
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>>124250397
It takes a bit of time for the servers to sync.
Try resetting your console
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>>124249789
Yeah but that skeletal outline doesn't really do the game justice. What makes bloodborne great is that moment you're standing in Yahar'gul after dying to a snatcher and read the message saying "Behold! A Paleblood sky!" while you look up at the moon and suddenly understanding everything. It's the moment you see the statue by the lamp and realize it's the same thing that grabbed you by Oedon Chapel and that line the stairs of the grand cathedral. You realize they worship that those things, whatever the hell they are.

It's the little moments like that, the murmurs that tell you this van hellsing horror game about werewolves and silver bullets is more than that, that there's something trembling just beneath the surface and you just can't see it yet.

That and the little moments, like the first time you run into a brainsucker and you're slapping this little homeless dude around and suddenly he grabs you and what the fuck is thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, or when you warp back to annalise to turn in some dregs and your executioner bro that told you all about the healing church is standing victoriously covered in her giblets, and you realize you signed her goddamn death warrant by inviting a psychopath paladin belmont to dracula's castle, or, hell, the moment in the DLC when the living failures turn their arms to the sky as one, the music hits a John Williams crescendo and the sky and the cosmos become one.

The game is full of those amazing moments where several elements of the plot are set to intersect and invite a narrative revelation, both small and large, and those are what makes it such a goddamn incredible game.
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>>124250751
>>124250751
>>124250751

New
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Join 3itx help me beat pthumerian descendent please
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>>124250207
people need to get used to this so i'm gonna make a detailed post

a HUGE number of the weapons in the game have HUGE damage differences between their different modes. however, the stat screen only shows one mode. different attacks in different modes have different attack multipliers. for example, ludwig's holy blade is based off it's 2h mode (the trick mode, not the normal mode), so even though it can reach enormous AR the regular sword does way less damage than is listed. similarly: if you have a boom hammer and a whirligig saw in 1h mode with the same AR, the boom hammer will do way more damage, because whirligig's AR is the saw AR

kos parasite's listed AR is the damage of the fucking micolash punch when you are a human bean. the actual AR of the tentacle weapon is like, twice the listed AR on your stat screen. this is easily confirmed because it hits harder than the stat screen AR, which would be impossible according to the damage formula if it wasn't multiplied
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>>124250208
I can try and farm at least 1 off shape ;-; and then any circles I get can go in the cannon.
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>>124250328
Instead of zooming the camera outward and up, like Ludwig phase 2, when you're close and locked onto cleric beast it zooms the camera in and down.

This gives you the effect that you're looking up at this huge beast which is fine in theory but in actuality it's a clusterfuck and you can't see shit because the camera is pretty much glued to the ground and shoved right up your ass.
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>>124250208
lost bloodletter has a circle slot
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>>124250842
Thanks for informing me anon :^)
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>>124250952
oh shit, no it doesn't, fuck

oh god that's horrible
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>>124250952

I have it in my storage right now, it's radial/tri/waning sadly.
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>>124249512
I thought the boss designs, particularly in the main game but a handful in chalices as well, were the best in the series. I don't enjoy any fights in Souls as much as encounters like Gascoigne, Logarius, Ebrietas, Gehrman or Abhorrent Beast. Then even the mook bosses like SoY, BSB and Paarl are competently designed visually and from a gameplay perspective, encouraging the aggressive playstyle the game loves so much. Of course there's bosses like Rom and The One Reborn, but in both cases they were clearly trying to evolve similarly shitty boss concepts from Demon's Souls(Phalanx and Tower Knight). I liked them as nods to that game. The only bosses I think are outright shit are Witches, Emissary and to some extent Wet Nurse(which I love the design for and the fog gimmick).
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>make bloodtinge
>mainly gun stat so the gems are always circle since guns get circle gem slots
>decide to make bloodtinge weapons
>not a single one of them has a circle slot

What kind of sadistic asshat designed this? I mean, they could have saved people and gave farmers hope with the dlc weapons. They could have redeemed themselves. But no.
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>>124234075
Ive invaded people who were afk and then gone through the level opening all the shortcuts and shit while I wait for them to return. If still afk when I return I kill them anyways. Figure thats fair.
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>>124251165
>not a single one of them has a circle slot
>2 of the 3 mainhand bloodtinge weapons have a circle slot in their lost versions
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>>124249459
> BB
> Found by one of the OGs in one of the dungeons from which the whole plot started, and it's habituated by ethereal wisps that gave Ludwig guidance. Holder's name is also a nudge to naming characters after composers.

> DaS
> plops into existence, hilt and all, After you cut Seath's tail (small reference to KF)
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>>124251165
Physical gems affect bloodtinge as well.
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>>124251165
But they do you fucking mongoloid
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>>124249025
>best weapon in the game
>Have to autism grind chalices for gems to make it even worth a shit
>You get it at the very end of the dlc/game
newp
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anyone care to help a bro out and help me kill simon?
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>>124250786
>Falling into the lake
> Everything after The One Reborn
2nd half was such a wild ride the first time.
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>>124251592
which encounter?
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>>124250786
>Iosefka clinic
> ayy lmaos are not ayy lmaos at all
I honestly felt a little sick after that.
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>>124252054
very beginning, im trying to kill for the bowblade. is it possible to get help there?
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>>124252585
I can try helping. I know co op doesny work for some npcs like the guy who turns into a beast
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>>124252746
ook, ringing my bell at first lamp. pw is ayywrk
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>>124252945
he is a ghost for me like the other guy
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>>124252746
shit, well it was worth a shot, thanks for trying though! ill be here all night :(
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