Ace Combat General #167 - /aceg/

>>124153843
ASSAULT HORIZON SEQUEL SOON

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Just let it have a graceful death already. It had a good run.

>>124154032
if it's to end then at least let it end with one last great game, not with AH or this F2P crap we have

>>124154032
never give up
never surrender
full speed ahead, hopes and dreams etc

>Finally decide on which of my several lv9 planes to be my first level 10
MVP 8p Alps Hard against planes more than 500 cst above me
Was that just luck or was there a large increase in power going from 9 to 10? Surely the 2200+ cst planes were also at least level 10

>>124154032
>>124154495
This is the end
Hold your breath and count to ten
Feel the earth move and then
Hear my heart burst again

>>124155821
when unsure, assume it's luck

might as well dump a story idea

AC7 守り翼/wings of the protector

During a regular combined Nordland army-air force exercise half of the ground forces was suddenly wiped out in a blinding flash of light followed by a full scale invasion coming from the Wielvakian border.

Caught by surprise the remaining ground forces are ordered to retreat and all combat capable aircraft in the area are ordered to slow down the enemy to allow the ground forces to retreat safely, among them is Nordland's 1st all female fighter squadron, one of them has a brother serving as a tank commander on the ground.

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>>124157738
>It was just another day in the peace-loving principality of Goodguyland
>Suddenly, an the evil nation of Badguyland invaded with a terrifying superweapon! How shocking!

I don't mean to rag on your idea anon but this is already done way too much in AC. It needs more nuance. AC5 had some questionable story elements but one of the things it did right was have a gradual build up in tensions before the actual war.

But Ace Combat as so far to go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deGvkTiRwQE

Well, I still dream of seeing something at the experience but I won't get my hopes up. Atleast they know we are still waiting. I'm just mad that AH is the last ace combat retail game.

>>124158174
yeah I agree the whole good guy vs bad guy thing is overdone in the series, I was thinking the focus of the story being the relationship between soldiers on the ground and the pilots in the air using the siblings as an analogue, the whole invasion thing could take place later on in the game but just felt like throwing the idea out there.

and I was thinking of using gripen as the squad's "canon" plane

>>124158174
So what if we flip them?
>It's just another peaceful day in the warmongering nation of Badguyland.
>Suddenly, the peace-loving nation of Goodguyland sought to liberate the people of Badguyland, convinced the new Badguyland Self Defense Force Superweapon was not meant for defense, but to spearhead an invasion of Goodguyland so they strike first with a Superweapon that actually is for offense.


Or what about another merc game where you fight on the losing side and either cut your losses and run, honor your contract to your last breath or join AWWNB 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>124159121
>you're playing an ace from the badguyland
>you hear enemy chatter talking about liberating the oppressed while friendlies talk about order and having foreign values enforced on them

am I seeing things wrong or do the electrosphere emblem drops come in red boxes instead of gold?

>>124160501
That is correct and this is how it should've been with the stupid Chinese cartoon emblems as well.

>>124160501
>>124160625
Red and gold are just labels. There's not a separate drop pool just for gold items, they just give items they deem "rare" or "special" a gold box cutscene instead of a red one. In the game's early days, gold didn't even exist.

In this case, I guess they just didn't think the AC3 emblems were special enough.

Ace Combat 7 : Kamikaze Pilots

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>people hate assault horizon


fuck...its the best ace combat ever...

>>124161994
Ace Combat 7: winds of the gods
You play a disgraced pilot whose only reason you're still alive is because of your past heroism, but now with your country in the verge of defeat you are sent on suicide missions, ones that somehow you keep coming back alive from.

>>124162639
Are you topsy-turvy upside down ?
And ace combat game influenced by COD to appeal cowofdoodee fanboys

>>124163974
*An

GUTS

DAMN

SHARK BASTARD

Official announcement has appeared on twitter that 1.5 times rewards for raids 1 and 2 will end at Dec 7th, 5pm Tokyo time (GMT +9)

>>124166237
>ending on Dec 7th
Fucking nips

>>124166237
>1.5 times rewards for raids 1 and 2 will end at Dec 7th, 5pm Tokyo time (GMT +9)
>Dec 7th
It's like Pearl Harbor all over again

>>124166357
>Operation BBQ Moscow rooms intensify

>>124166510
Just wait for:
New event. Zero vs Lightning NTDM. PRIDE FROM 75 YEARS AGO.

>>124166647
>Implying piston rooms in last NTDM wasn't that already

>>124166357
>>124166510
>December 7th
>special event lasting for 1 week
>every emergency mission is now Emergency Sea Strike
>Piston planes only
>new Torpedo SP weapon
>3x rewards bonus

Special drops
radio chatter
<<Tora Tora Tora>>
<<Climb Mt. Niitaka>>

Emblems
-Japanese maratime flag
-imperial chrysanthemum

Write a wishlist for Christmas:

1. Credit and research bonus on hard missions to be permanent
2. Boosting the AC0 SP planes cost to match the rest of the series
3. New campaign
4. Silber skin for F-4E
5. Bartlett Wild Weasel
6. Gold skins for all tree planes
7. 4th SPW unlocked at certain levels

>>124169205
>a muffled and tiny "cyka blyat" can be heard over the radio

>>124169205
<< What the hell is that thing? >>

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>>124168514
>7. 4th SPW unlocked at certain levels
>You get to pick what weapon
>MPBM on every plane
>mfw

>>124169205
Now that's Bercute

>>124168514
>6. Gold skins for all tree planes
>Gold GAF-01
>Gold XFA-33
>Gold R-101
>Gold XFA-27
We goldgoy now
however a gold CFA-44 would look sexy.

>>124170858
>Goyld skins for whale planes only
literally painting fuel

>Tanakaichirosan is hosting 1500 or less cst rooms

wow, who would've thought the biggest whale in the entire game actually enjoys competition

>>124172835
>He doesn't know of Tanakas love of Idols
Guys an alright person to play with. Iori a shit though.

>after a few months, falken is at a respectable 10
>doesnt break 1.8k cst but it manages well
>enjoying a relatively fun B7R match
>gets a message after about flying in a goyplane and kys

Whats with all the hate within the community. Yes I did get MVP over the Host but whats with these people getting assblasted all the time when I use superplanes

>>124174192
Do you have the ZOE skin for the Falken? They probably thought it was an Osea Falken. Either way you met a faggot

It's probablt damn late for everyone, but if for that hour val isn't streaming I'll do my three daily sorties around 23:00 GMT+1

>>124174741
I wish I had. Black falken is nice and all but ZOE lets me play with nostalgia cause AC2 was the first Ace game for me.

Speaking of which, when was it last available? I myself got slightly butthurt about the goyskin cause its for the Osea falken, Should I get the Osea? yknow, just for collection purposes

>>124175251
It was available the month after the FALKEN became available on the normal tree, I think.
And don't use the Osea version, unless you fancy paying gorilions for something that isn't even different in any way from the priced-like-a-normal-plane stock version.

>>124175485
I did say collection purposes right? I already have a level 10 falken

>>124175251
Like >>124175485 said
except it was out only for a weekend. surprised nobody cared for it and would rather goy out for the shitden.

>>124159121
>>124159503
Sounds very much like the relationship between the Gallente and Caldari in the New Eden universe of eve online/dust 514. I probably wouldn't enjoy this ace combat though, because I'd most likely find myself siding with the liberation nation instead.

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ded thred, post Belka___

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2 days...

I guess that's really the problem with Ace Combat.

If it's another goodguy/badguy sudden invasion scenario, then people will say they're doing what they did in all the previous games.

If they change it and mix it up (honestly though, what else could they do besides heroic defender of embattled nation on the verge of defeat or 'You're a mercenary who is the heroic invader of a small embattled nation on the verge of defeat.'')

And then people complain because they changed it.

Personally, since I don't expect much from bamco, I'd be happy with them simply doing a rip off of ace combat 3. I don't really care for future planes, but it was perhaps the most unique ace combat, didn't get wide exposure in the west (in its true form) and follows up on 2 getting a remake in AHL.

Of course, I don't really expect to get anything...

But I mean, the 5th is my birthday. A new ace combat sure would be nice.

But like

What if AC7 actually happens. What will become of us?

>>124179614
We'll survive and keep bitching about Infinity because I know people will keep playing it until the server shuts down. I for one will because still don't have a PS4. A new Ace Combat will be the last push I need for that, other than Uncharted 4 and that new stupid sexy Vanillaware game

>>124179614
<< We will not get 404'd overnight. We will not get ruse'd without a fight. We're going to live on! We're going to surive! Today we celebrate my birthday >>

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>>124154021

Which new Ace Combat would you be okay with?
Ace Combat 7
Ace Combat Trilogy HD
Ace Combat 3 HD

These are all good for me.

>>124179450
2 days until disappointment because of the ruse

Considering getting a Morgan project started. I do have the Galm emblem, and have all Morgans at level 1. Which one should I go for? I do have a lot of Pixy radio chat, but unfortunately, by the time I have reached level 17, the Pixy has costed 11 million more.

I can collect about 1 million a week when no special events are occurring.

>>124182516
7 or the trilogy.

3 is too short for it to be satisfying.

>>124182516
>Ace Combat 1 HD, with the rock musics and fancy paintschemes retained from that game.
>Air Combat (arcade) and Air Combat 22 in HD.
>Ace Combat 07....yes 07 as in 2007. Takes place after Operation Katina and continue the story of Mobius One.

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>>124182894

>>124182516
Ace Combat 7. Must be about Belka and the 7 nukes.

>>124182681
Why not wait for ADFX-02 -PX-

Hey Aces, were the PSP Ace Combat games worth a purchase? I realized I am missing both of those and Advance.

>>124183702
Damn you reminded me I forgot to add those to my PSP library.

>>124183836
s-Sorry Ace! I forgot about them as well until I reawoke my PSP to put my new PSN on! If I can find them complete I might try to pick them up though, if just for collections sake.

>>124183702
Yes!
X is a good game on its own. Gryphus feels like a poor man's Mobius One but it's cool and has some nice mission variety. You'll deal with a lot of different bullshit, in a good way.
X2 is worth is anything for the damn best soundtrack in the whole series.

Why didn't they make an Ace Combat on the Vita? It is like Sony made the Vita just to hurt the video game division of the company. There was not a single good decision besides the hardware.

>>124162663
So its Ace combat: /aceg/ Edition?

>>124182516
>Ace Combat 7
>Prequel, sequel, or remake. anything related to the AC3 timeline.

I like the futuristic setting of Strangereal.

>>124184107
Amazon still wants $30 a piece for those games new. Frigging terrible, what a furball.

(I also need to pick up Assassin's Creed Bloodlines, and MG AC!D 2 to try to complete my UMD collection. Fug. Stupid me, not buying PSP games when they were rock bottom pricing.)


>>124184304
3DS managed to get 1.5 Ace Combat games, which is good enough for me.

>>124182786
>3 is too short
What the fuck? It has over 50 missions.

Who's up for some supplied stream for Infinity?

Stream is here: http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni

How important is UGB Explosives M on a bomber? Should I go with that or Bomb Enhancement Kit M?

>>124187598
Go with the power part first, then enhancement. MUGB have a good reload so area doesn't matter so much

>>124166357
>>124166510
>>124166647
>>124167073
Feels good being from Europe and not giving a shit about Pearl Harbor.

>>124188138
Damn son, as an american I don't care much about Pearl Harbor either because that was before my time but I don't go around sounding like an edgelord. Cool your jets.

>their team is an R-101 and an -Osea-
>our team is the -Strigon Leader- and me in a Bone
I think this is the most expensive room I've ever been in.
>>124187938
See, I read that and decided it was sound logic.
But man, MUGBs actually have a pretty small explosion radius. I guess I'd forgotten since I haven't seen it in so long. I think this should still work out for the better, though. The damage enables my MUGBs to one-shot bunkers and AD tanks.

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>>124172835
What do you mean?? lvl 20 shitplanes fit that shit perfectly, dont be delusional

>>124189806
Only if you running with no parts.

>>124172835
Duck, quit trying to smear Tanaka's name just because he doesn't kick people who beat him.

>>124189934
Stop dreaming try to complete a challenge against this.
http://asm.aceinf.glasscore.net/#01350k000a050000002b25000007

>>124185203
Have you played it? I beat the Electrosphere route in less than an hour, and geopelia in less than 1:15.

>have 30 stocked
>stuck at crucial point in tree
>finally reached the planes I want, need to level them
>researching only progressing by 10-20% overall after 3 sorties per day

The wait is killing. I used to consider myself a patient man but I just want to burn my stocked to get my parts/levels sooner. I've been saving my fuel for the next time the Area 88 planes roll around but I can't take the wait and grind anymore.

>>124196638
You could at least try <<Ruse>> posting

>>124197323
>researching only progressing by 10-20% overall after 3 sorties per day
That sounds pleasant. I wish that could happen to me.

>>124197852
Dawg I am in the middle of the tree. I just started playing seriously last month.

I made the mistake of bringing the F-4G, F-5E, F-14A, F-14D, Harrier, and Hornet to level 5. I also research every single part that I have reached thus far. Now I'm crying over all that wasted research/credits.

3:00 AM - so many rooms can't even decide where I want to play

3:00 PM - maybe 3 rooms total, all 2100+ MR, kill me now

The worst part of the grind is never being able to find good rooms to play in.

>>124202160
Nice Phantom

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>>124202319
Thanks, friend :)

>>124202160
try SEPECAT Jaguar instead ...

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>>124169205

>>124203529
Now really, it's a bit hard to differentiate the Jaguar and the F-1 at first glance.

>2018 AD
>Scamco finally releases AC7
>campaign is perfect with flawless music, just the right amount of cheesiness, and missions that are as fun as playing Excalibur the first time
>multiplayer is completely free, no sortie fuel bullshit, and it's just as fun as the campaign with a lively online community
>Infinity still accessible in game with permanent 6x supplied fuel so all those hours and dollars invested don't just disappear in vain
>game still sells below expectations
>Scamco pulls the plug after 6 months
>AC dead forever

>>124207318
>Dies a glorious death after having reached its apex
>Not relatively fine

I have suffered trough C&C death and I'm suffering Fire Emblem's one, the true horror lies twisted mutations of what you once loved with all your heart.

>>124207318
Could be worse, I mean imagine if a publisher like bethesda got its hands on Ace Combat. Nobody wants that happening. Apparently it's already happened to STALKER anyways

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>>124210557
>Bethesda

Astrosexual trans-lollipop bubblegum otherkin confirmed as main character with giant flying dildo as signature aircraft.

>>124210557
Ace combat assault horizon 2
Co-developed by platinum

>>124211414
>Platinum Codeveloping
So we'd have a chance of Sapin Gear Rising at long last?

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Post planefu

>>124182681
Go for the vanilla. Conserve your TLS for reds or hard targets. I leveled mine to 10 and got a +1 part slot expansion and it was a beast

>>124182681
Be a buddy. It costs more, but you get to be a buddy.

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>tfw never played the older games and have no idea who Pixy is and what all these memes are but I pretend otherwise

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>>124214639
Then why haven't you played them yet, Buddy?
Get to work.

>>124182681
Choose whatever you want, regular morgan has slightly better beginning stats stats bar lies but the pixy has more SP weapons.

>>124214639
>and you didn't even bother to educate yourself
This is what V2 was truly for

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>>124215430
>mfw when I don't know what V2 is

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>>124214639

>>124215508
Should've watched the stream, buddy.

>>124215508
This is a man who has not pulled out Taubergs sword. Disgusting. He must be the type to not let go of hate.

>>124215508
You know about glorious Belka though, right? R-right?

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>>124215718
Watched parts of 5, had work during the other times. Caught parts of Ridaz's AC3 streams though.

>>124215907
I have a vague idea of what it is just because you guys mention it so much. I think it's former Nazi Germany that lost all its glory. Isn't that what the expose of AC5 is about? Please no bully.

>>124216162
I have no words. Go look up a playthrough on YouTube that isn't by Duck360 and get learned

>>124216808
In addition whenever anyone you want to search something Ace Combat related and you don't wand Duck360 videos to show up you can put -duck360gaming2 at the end of any search and it will exclude all videos by him.

I have a sudden desire to stream 0 again, ace run.

>>124217437
use only the F-20 -knight-

>>124217437
I'd watch it

>>124217437
use only the F-1, on ace, soldier run, gun only vs pixy.

>>124217607
How far to paradise anon?

>>124218037
>gun only vs pixy.
This is possible?
I tried getting him with FAEBs once with no luck.

>>124218290
For sure on lower difficulties, Maybe with ECM on hard/Extreme/Ace

>>124218290
It is distinctly impossible for me.

>>124218037
>>124217607

I think we all know what plane I'd be using if I was doing a single plane run again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1feWsXW3uU

Alright, back by popular demand,

I present, Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War (Belka did nothing wrong)

Stream is here, as always: http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni

>>124219421
Shit I'm gonna miss the first hour again.

I wish hitbox at least had temporary replays like twitch, like videos that last for a few weeks before being deleted.

>>124219558
It does.

>>124219615
Whenever I check you videos, it's only the ones you saved from 19 days ago when we had that massive Ace general NTDM for 2 hours. I can't really watch for another hour or two some I'm gonna miss it all again.

>>124217306
Why does everyone hate ϲυϲk360 so much? I get that he's a clubber who can't use anything that isn't an MTD FAEBoat, but what's wrong with his Jewtube videos? Same for all the other Jewtubers - they always have dislikes on their videos but I'm happy that they're still putting AC videos out because it helps the series feel more alive.

I think I've run into a real block now. The three planes I'm leveling are the P-38 -FA- which is 15 and 8.5 million, the Danketsu at 7 and costing 5.1 million and a Foxhound which I haven't touched in awhile costing 8.8 million for the next level. Where do I go next without paying the Rabbi?

>>124219759
I just need to get around to uploading them.

>>124220005
The dude promotes bad play with saying higher player should club themselves and lower players should join high ranks so that they can be carried.

>>124220408
What level is the Foxhound? My austism says 15 and 7 are good numbers, otherwise you must round to the nearest 5. If the Foxhound is level 5, 7, or 10, then P-38 ALL THE WAY BABY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

>>124220608
I know he's a piece of shit I just feel bad when the very few AC videos that people put out get no attention or dislikes for no reason. More videos and streams are good for the game since it's free promotion and helps generate more interest. Most stupid faggot kids these days don't even play video games and just pay NEETs to play on twitch so they can watch instead.

>>124220707
Level 18 Foxhound. It's been there for awhile now, that -FA- P-38 is much more expensive though. Danketsu just has low returns for what I put in.

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>>124221279
>level 18

MUH AUTISM. I CAN'T BREATHE.

Sounds like you answered your own question though.

>>124221503
These aren't Navy SEALs.

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>>124221503
Thing is being the guy who can bully everyone during piston events is a nice proposition too you know. We all know nobody would be stupid enough to spend 10 forms and an unknown amount of money to do this. And I somewhat want to be that idiot. But I also don't.

>>124221892
Didn't that one guy already take his Dick Bong to 16? At level 15, you're probably already shitting on low to mid MRs.

>>124222115
During co-op, level 5 is enough to keep up, even score 50K+ consistently.

During TDM, the story is completely different, and a 3 level difference will make the match incredibly one-sided if they even have a remote idea of how to play.

>>124222115
I am that guy anon. I've got three goy projects going on with free fuel. Dick Bong, Idol B-2, and FAST.

>>124189638
That guy actually survived, too.

>>124221787
Wait til you see the Navy sea lions.

Just bought a used copy of Air Combat finally. Am I in for some fun?

>>124225050
You're in for a decent game that has aged like milk.

but pretty good music

>>124225050
If you have the NA version check the code on the side of the case. Real interesting stuff.

>>124225239
It was $5.47 on Amazon, bad to worse I can play it once for completionist sake.

>>124225340
Oh? It's not here yet, but you have piqued my curiousity.

>>124225876
It's nothing too interesting, pretty well known actually, just a it of history on how long Ace Combat has been on PS platforms.

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Why do they make so many jets with such a narrow field of view and with the support beams blocking a lot of the vision? The F-20 got it right but most other jet cockpits make me feel claustrophobic. The Russian side-by-side 2 seaters like the Su-34 are especially weird. I wouldn't even be able to take my job seriously if I were a Fullback pilot.

>>124193727
the point is that it branches out all over the place, so the first 3-4 playthroughs are almost completely different
plus it had some fucking cool planes

>>124227517
because dogfighting IRL isn't like Ace Combat, it happens at huge distances
pilots only make visual contact because they have to according to the rules of engagement
for older planes it was because there was no other way to make the cockpit strong enough to withstand the ridiculous speeds they flew at

>join prop room
>get Flash

Neat.
I kind feel a bit overwhelmed, got my Spitfire to lv. 10 but it feels outclassed by all those P-38s. What's the best setup for machinegun parts? Got armor piercing L but still have problems dealing with airborne enemies

>>124229937
Gotta have enough slots for power L and new gun L. So have 23 arms slots. Then you'll do a bit better.

Alright, thanks again to everyone who joined me for Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War, Final Lesson edition.

For those of you who missed it and want to see it for whatever reason, you can find it here: http://www.hitbox.tv/settings/Valetni/videos

>>124229180
>pilots only make visual contact because they have to according to the rules of engagement

<< I don't understand. >>

>>124230823
If you just shoot missiles at radar targets with getting a visual ID, you might just hit, say, an airliner.

>>124230795
Any chance you'll stream air force delta strike again?
That game is so bad that it's good.

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>>124230968
>you might just hit, say, an airliner

Egypt's face when

<<RISE RUSEGRIZ>>

Is PSN shitting the bed? been unable to complete a single sortie tonight

>>124235934
PSN is fine but I've been noticing some people dropping out at the start of missions

>>124227517
>The Russian side-by-side 2 seaters like the Su-34 are especially weird.
Well planes like the Su-34 are designed for bombing. It's helpful to have both crew members next to each other.

>>124205542
It is when you can see the RAF roundel on the wing.

>>124237121
I just don't like the feeling of not being directly in the center of the plane and having an even tinier field of view than usual since I'm sandwiched against the left side of the cockpit. Plus if I'm piloting a plane, I'm king of the damn castle. I don't wanna share my personal space with another dude. I never even liked front and back 2 seaters like the Tomcat or Mudhen. I just wanna be alone in the sky.

>taking 2 minutes to change screens
>failed to upload player data
>no room was found
>failed to upload player data
>the room you are trying to join is not available
>failed to upload player data
>connection to the host was lost
>failed to upload player data

Yeah, fuck this shit, no idea if is bamco or psn fucking up, tried 5 sorties and only got to complete 1

>>124238043
It's hard enough finding a good room as it is so when this shit happens, it's damn frustrating.

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>>124238043
The fault lies at Belkan server hosting

>>124238043
Meanwhile.. Every hard room the host closes instantly after a single mission and I spend 5+ minutes looking for another match. goddamn it I just want my extra credits in this twisted game.

>>124238543
>the host closes instantly after a single mission

I know that feeling all too well. But whenever I'm hosting multiple games in a row, everyone always leaves after one mission. It goes both ways.

>>124235620
Just BRRRT my shit up

>>124238815
I don't mind that as much. Easier to afk wait for people than mashing that refresh button looking for a hard room and then waiting because it's definitely 1/8 full. Also i'm building up sorties to an inevitable no raid.

>>124225050
Guy who bought air combat a thread or two ago. Game is fun. Feels like topgun. Wingmen still shit. Cannons are hard to ain with.

>>124239369
Wingmen are almost always shit, and guns are janky as fuck in the old games

>>124238815
>Use 2 fuel in a room. Only have 1 supply for another.

Everybody just wants the extra credits but at the end of it, no-one knew who was salty and who just ran out of fuel. And what's a goy?

Is it just me or is it a lot easier to get gun kills with lower levels planes than it is with high level pimped out ultra fighters?

>>124243812
Gun damage is mostly flat throughout levels. Being less mobile can make it easier to line up the shots too. High levels of course have the longer range since gun range is tied to lock on range when there's no parts.

>>124244492
>>124243812
Gun damage is based off aircraft tier (+role damage modifiers) and actually increases slightly post 10. Not sure if it's a one-off increase or per level though.

In the case of pistons, it goes up significantly per level.

>want to partake in this piston madness
>still months away from having a single decent jet
>even more months away from having good aircraft parts
>will be further still from ever purchasing a bomber

By the time I even get to unlocking a piston fighter, the servers will probably already be in the process of being shut down.

>>124245297
That's your problem. Just go for the piston and take it to jet rooms.

On that note, Pistons get huge mobility increases per level on the stat bar. Lie as usual or do they really handle that well?

>1400-1500 MR
>4 player rooms, 0 bots
>often hard maps
>not even a challenge room

Yeah it's cool dudes, not like I want S, A, or even B rank. Who needs credits and research when we can just get C rank and pat ourselves on the back afterwards?

>>124245850
Due to how sharply my Dick Bong turns I'm actually starting a set up using the mobility down parts, I just need to more slots so that I can continue using cockpit LL. The lower mobility actually makes it so I can turn smoothly.

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>>124235620
YFW when you realize the turbine blades are rectangular and would never function

>some talented person spend hours staring at this in 3dsmax yet over looked this.

I'm new to Ace Combat and I want to try one of the games for PSP, which of the two is better?

>>124247735
Both are fine, I kinda preferred Joint assault though

>>124247735
Either or; they're both pretty good

Holy shit, landed in a 4 man Excalibur I, host didn't bother to add more players or even add bots, one guy spent the first 2 minutes of the mission literally sitting at the map start. I thought I started attacking Excalibur with 1 minute left but I couldn't clutch it. Only managed 84k but we A ranked at least.

Huh, what the fuck? Had 111 stocked yesterday, have only 86 now. Didn't use any stocked, only supplied.

>>124246668
>Credits
>1500MR players
You mean shot-down penalties right?

>>124249469
Do you have two different region versions of AC:I on your PS3? Bought stuff like fuel/contracts is region tied.

>>124249638
6k is still better than 1k. I'm more concerned about the research bonus. I'm trying to grind for some crucial parts right now and the slow research pace is killing me. Missing out on the S rank bonus is painful when we could easily get S if they would just add damn bots at the very least or make it 6 players.

>>124249752
Returning to title screen fixed it. Still, wierd, haven't had that happen before.

>>124250692
I had an error about sets reset, and down 16 fuel, as like you, reload fixed it.

>>124248431
I don't get it either, trying to do the rescue challenge and virtually all rooms 4 players. Only 8 player are clubber "beginners only" .

>>124251338
>join 8 player room
>that one fucking 2200 MR in a 1500 MR room

Every
single
time.

Honestly I hate 4 man/0 bot rooms and 8 player rooms unless it's with friends. 6 players is the sweet spot. 4/4 bot is good for maps that are super easy to S like B7R but otherwise, it's just begging for B rank or lower.

>>124246854
<< I don't understand. >>

>>124251553
Yeah, no pride. My MR took a pounding doing the challenges, but I'm ok with it, as grinding out slots on a low tier jet in anticipation of a future tournament, if the Xmas rumors are legit.

>you have been removed from the room
I'm beginning to see a lot more of this now that I'm hitting high 50K to mid 60K a match

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>>124253162
The new year tournament wasn't low tier, it was low cost. Which is a lot better than low tier, since Namco's idea of low tier is totally fucked and includes 725 cost special planes.
Though yeah, it's definitely happening. They accidentally added it to the tournament info tab for a while, so everyone could check it out.

>>124253996
Well level 15 Weasel, so it still fits, and Level 9 Mig21 -SG- as fighter. as you say, still some crazy set-ups you can juggle to fit sub 1500.

If all the SP planes were able to be bought, and had the same stats as the games the originally aired in (where applicable), but scaled worse in leveling than the free variants (as in they don't perform as efficiently after a certain threshold), would you buy them?

>>124253996
>Su-25 Raven
oh I do want that but it's impossible for me to get it

>>124255091
Yeah. For the skins.

>>124253996
>SP Su-25 and A-6
>still no SP F-4G or Su-24M
bamco pls

>>124255091
>>124255773
why not just have them as skins? for every SP plane released they'd have a skin of that plane usable on the regular planes obtainable through either challenges or drops

SP planes were a dumb idea. Every single one of them should just be a skin.

>>124256293
Gold Falcon was a skin in the beta.
Also, you could "buy" skins in the beta.

>>124256293
SP planes were a mistake.

>>124256149
Because they also get unique things that the standard version might not have like for example the F-15C -Cipher- would get UGB making it a plane with fighter stats, but with some multirole ability.

>>124256149
>>124256293
The problem with that is that it screws a lot of the protag planes. Razgriz as a special plane is usable. Razgriz as a skin for the awful 475 cost Tomcat isn't unless you have zero competition.

>>124256384
I think the idea then was skins, emblems and maybe even SP planes would be paid DLC, then they changed it on release to be tourney rewards and random drops.

>>124256623
Who gives a shit? Any plane can be usable if you pump enough levels and slots into it.

Yes, I know that slot expansions weren't always a thing, but that's beside the point. My primary plane is a level 18 Phantom with 32 slots and it does just fine in every room.

>>124256293
I disagree somewhat. Some of them do interesting things, like how the -Akula- gets MPBMs.
On the other hand, there is literally no reason for any of the special Hornets to exist, they should all be skins.

>>124256623
>>124256601
I wasn't saying replacing SP planes with skins I was saying you still have SP planes but you also have the paint job of those SP planes obtainable through other means to be used on the standard planes

>>124256918
Tomcat is shit no matter how much effort you put into it. It still needs damage parts to one shot Foxhounds even at level 20. It needs to stack damage L and missile enhancement kit just for its 6AAMs to one shot Fulcrums. It needs a damage part for its SAAMs to one shot Raptors or its HVAAs to one shot Fulcrums.
Maybe you're happy with a bad plane, but not everyone is. Some people want to be able to use certain airframes even in hard mode low player count rooms. Special planes enable that. You get rid of them and the game will have even less variety, since even more people will start using the same high cost planes since they'll have even less viable choices.

>>124256935
I like the Jolly Rogers hornet though, it basically gives you a free level without actually having to level, and it looks good to boot, but I could understand that being a skin.

The avalanche is technically a protag plane though, so it should be it's own plane.

>>124257226
Tie damage to the plane's CST at its current level rather than its CST at level 1.
Bam, planes are usable now

>>124257226
Well if Bamco weren't complete idiots when it comes to balancing we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Every plane in the same class should do the same damage. Fighters should always do more damage to air targets than the others, but all fighters should do the same damage as each other.

Every plane did the same damage in the old AC games. You can go through any game in the series with your favorite plane no matter what it is. I don't get why they felt the need to change it for ACI.

>>124257624
>Every plane did the same damage in the old AC games.

They did not. It wasn't a significant difference but they did have different damages, especially in games with plane roles like AC3DS or ACX.

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So is anyone flying right now?

>>124257624
>all fighters should do the same damage as each other.
not against the idea but if you do that you won't have the incentive to get other side of the tree aside from getting to your favourite, which is great for balance but not so good as a business model.

>>124257760
I haven't played the 3DS game and I haven't played the PSP games in years, but I've done full game runs with early-game planes and the only thing I had trouble with was the very limited ammo. Most fighters still go down in two missiles regardless of the plane you use, and most ground targets only take one. That's just how it is.

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>>124258518
Here's a mad idea, then. Getting a slot expansion also bumps the base damage, topping out at 800 Cst damage. Need to work out what slot amounts correspond to what base damage (shouldn't need 40 slots for maximum), but I think it could work. You could choose between going down the tree more or sitting and grinding one plane. Would kinda screw multiroles I admit, but it'd still be better than what we have now. F-4E should by one means or another be able to do the same damage as an X-49.

>>124258241
I was, but you don't wanna play with me.

>>124259294
This except tie it to levels and have all planes have diminishing returns as they get closer to max cost. So say F-4E will get a static damage increase from 1-20 but X-02 will get current scaling and they'll both even out at 20. also include SPW in that.

>>124257226
http://asm.aceinf.glasscore.net/#010a0k0j0905030c0h1j2n001z01

Allow me to interject, but Tomcat is quite viable at level 20. S++ speed. Two-hits with 6aam or one-hits with standards up to non-hard, non-emergency reds with this build. Level 20 planes boast insane reload and homing.

6AAM is still a very strong SPW, which makes it competitive, and upgrading the F-14A is rather affordable.

I understand your point, and I know I have completely sidestepped the fact you wanted to use it as an example of unfairness, but if you wanted to complain about shit fighters, should have picked something like the falcon.

Sure you have to grind a lot, but the vanilla F-14A is still redeemable.

>>124246854
there are a lot of designs that feature ridiculous oval jets like that, no idea why
it just looks stupid

>>124259624
Why? Are you a fucking metafaggot?

>>124260807
I dunno, dude. Level 20 with +19 slots takes an insane amount of grinding, and in the end you're still not that good since your 6AAMs are shit and you have no homing part for your standards. I'd take a level 15 Flanker E/F over that given the choice, even if they weren't vastly less expensive.

>>124263487
At level 20 you shouldn't need homing. Regarding 6AAM, Double tapping reds and oranges at 6000km+ not enough of a threat?

Reload with standards should be roughly 2.5s or less with that build, adding the insane propulsion, and you'll go places.

Is it wiser than getting one of the 6AAM flankers up? Probably not. But I can see this build easily getting to March rating 2200 and above

>>124263841
I guess I can't comment on homing since I don't have a level 20 fighter. Maybe it does work, I don't know.
But as to the 6AAMs, actually, yes, needing two shots to kill a Tomcat does seem bad to me. That's very bad. The point of the weapon is that it wipes out all the oranges, and it's not very good at that if it can only kill three at a time. Or less, most likely, since if there are more than three enemies in range it's going to insist on locking on to the extra so you won't be able to double tap. That's not how 6AAMs should be. And it's still shit on hard mode, of course.

Why are we even having this discussion? I dunno, maybe I was wrong and it's not really shit, it's just not that good. Does it make you happier hearing me say that? Because if it does then like okay.

>>124264610
You guys are having a discussion about the game in a thread meant for discussing the game. Don't be a sour puss. It was interesting to read your debate.

>Want to take advantage of hard mission bonuses
>Only clubber rooms and I get kicked out of all of them
>Try to host my own at standard range
>30 minutes literally no-one joins
>Fuel is almost at 3/3
>host no restrictions (4x 1900-2300, 4x nuggets) and finally get going after 15 minutes of waiting
>BTFO a 2100 MMR player who ragequits then calls me a clubber

fuck there's no satisfying people is there? what do they want me to do, play moscow all day like everybody else? i wouldn't be hosting this shit if people actually joined. i swear it's faster to get high/similar mr players in no restrictions room than it is for standard rooms

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Is there a reason Chinese jets aren't in the series yet?

I want to blow the fuck out of J-8s, JH-7s, J-10s and J-11 rip offs.

>>124267416
Bamco are casual planefags unlike based Konami who knew their shit

>>124267416
License?

>>124267641
Oh god, death.

>>124267621
Explain.

>>124267621
>konami
>based
they haven't been for a long time

>>124267994
certainly not when theyre a money laundering front for the yakuza. all this push for gambling isn't a coincidence.

Divegrassing is today right?

>>124263841
The amount of grinding and work you need to put into the vanilla tomcat is just straight up not worth it. Sure, on paper it seems viable but being at 2300 MR myself I really can't see it competing. I have a level 13 F14D and even that struggles to do well against other high leveled high cost fighters at my tier. Having 6AAMs that won't oneshot even with warhead L is just super jank, along with the poor power on it's SAAMs and HVAAs. Vanilla tomcat doesn't have any good special weapon and trying to compete with it against competent players would be such an uphill battle. There really should be a system that allows a plane's special weapon damage to increase natively with the plane level.

Why belka loves war

About that Tomcat discourse, You were mentioning flanker. Any tips which is more viable for A2A fightan? I mean, 33 has 6aam, and 37 is just too damn sexy to left it.

Better question to ask is to go for Rena flanker, scarface flanker or razgiz tomcat during their reruns

>>124272251
Su37 if you want to go all standards
Su35 if you like your SPW

>>124272251
You can also go hipster-mode and level the X-29, which manouvers like an angry mosquito and has HPAA.
Or ATD if you prefer cost to HPAA

>>124268173
>The amount of grinding and work you need to put into the vanilla tomcat is just straight up not worth it.
Absolutely. I agree with this 100%. To consider levelling a tree tomcat to compete as a cost-effective option is outright moronic.

However what I was trying to say was that F-14A is not that bad if you decide to go all the way with it.

If you are going to groan about low tier planes, please consider the Falcon.

It can NEVER one-hit F-22A and T-50 with standard missiles. All its specials are so gimped, they are unusable. At least Tomcat had range. Falcon doesn't even get that.

>There really should be a system that allows a plane's special weapon damage to increase natively with the plane level.
Agree with this completely. It's a bullshit system.

From an abstraction point of view, you could argue that missiles get better over time, and only newer fighters should be able to equip these new, better missiles.

However, that's what non-standard upgrades should do. Add capabilities that were not present in the original aircraft. All planes of the same type should be able to hit the same damage once they reach a certain level. Just adjust the cost accordingly.

>>124272251
If you want to know which is better, Su-35. There is a reason it was a dominant aircraft in the first few months of the game, when SP aircraft were rare, and not that good.

The only weapon Su-37 has which the Su-35 doesn't have an objectively equal or better version of is the HVAA. And that's only really useful in TDM. 6AAM is better in most situations otherwise. It gains HPAA instead, which is also a great TDM weapon.

But if you like the Su-37, it's still plenty good. Fly for love. You might regret it later otherwise. Also, that stupid sexy Gelb skin...

>>124273329
>From an abstraction point of view, you could argue that missiles get better over time, and only newer fighters should be able to equip these new, better missiles.
See, the problem with this is that age doesn't equal tier.

I know we're talking about fighters, but as far as attackers go, the A-6 is a perfect example. It's a sufficiently mid-tier plane that is older and less advanced than the F-4G or AV-8B. Believe it or not, the F-4G is actually a pretty recent and advanced version of the Phantom.

And while we're at it, the F-2 is somehow lower tier than the F-117 and A-10 despite being newer than both. The Su-25 also didn't enter service until the 80s yet the game treats it like an ancient plane when it's newer than the Warthog and Fencer.

>>124271830
What best theater to display all kinds of cool but incredibly inefficient superweapons?

And planes need war to shine too. Else we end up with cool jets like the F-22 never getting to show their true power and undergo ridiculous but brave trials like returning to base safely with one wing blown off.

>>124273870
I'm just giving the best possible explanation I can think PA can provide for this bullshit other than TIERS LOL. I don't actually think that.

>>124268149
Yes, divegrass is today. Our match is 1730 GMT against /gsg/

>Retro Combat Hard
>Me and host on 2100MR, one 1500 nugget, 3 guys in 1800-1900s
>Me and host on opposite teams
>We S rank with 3 seconds left, host and me scored 90k each, carrying the match
Pubs are ok sometimes.

>>124274756
>Joining a no restrictions room
how disgusting you fucking enabler.

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a day until our dream...

>>124276356
I saw my death in my dreams. Many times...

>>124275079
it's retro combat on hard, not that many people would bother doing it so an open room is probably the best call if you don't want to wait 30 minutes for a room to be full

>>124266159
I can't even get 4P wide MR rooms going in time anymore unless it's B7R. Even Moscow stopped drawing people in.

1500cst restricted rooms are working slightly better, but I really want to take advantage of hard room bonuses. I just don't know what to do anymore.

>>124276356
until our dream of being shot down and rammed out of the sky while parachuting

Post Ace Combat Videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvEI-iUtrkE

When are we going to have a gauntlet mission where we fight only goyplanes?

>squadron of vanilla Falkens led by one -Osea-
>squadron of vanilla Delphinus les by one -Neucom-
>etc

Fuck Bamco, there are so many thing you could do with this game but you don't.

>>124274575
Is out team on autopilot today? I remember Nemo said he might not be able to attend some games.

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>I've made 10.5mil since the patch while only burning down by 20 stocked.

>>124281360
Don't give up just yet, they can still make EAS II, III, and IV

>>124281435
I don't know
Nemo, if you're here, can we get any word on management?

>>124281360
Don't worry, that is gonna be B7R HARD.

Only goyplanes, have to triple tap all of them, not even HPAAs can 1hko them.

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>>124282983
>B7R Hard
>Not just another group of red and orange planes that go down as easily as the rest

Might be the easiest hard map next to Dubai once it comes out, if nothing else.

>>124281531
I just want to play the Emergency Strike missions again please

>>124283723
>It's actually Camilla and a group of Excalibur-tier Nosferatus
>Led by an ADFX - 02

I need to go to sleep now. Any chance of a recording of the match when it happens?

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Alright fellow aces, if nothing goes wrong we'll play in about 1h30. Stay tuned.

>>124283978
There's the archive (archive.klaxa.eu/VGL5/), but it goes up a bit later. probably late this night or tomorrow morning.

>>124284301
>starts at the end of my lunch break
I think I'll work through lunch and take it later just to watch.

>>124283723
Nah, at the very least it will be like the final phase of EAS.

>>124284407
Just to clarify, it starts 17:00 GMT (12:00 EST, 9:00 PST) with /dng/ vs /drg/ (if you wanna see a bit of our next adversaries) and our game is the next, 17:30 (provided nothing goes wrong and the damned Skype works).

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>Tfw someone put piston parts in a Bomber

Nuggets are weird.

>>124284912
In that case it starts when my lunch starts B^)

Does MVPing actually give out any bonuses?

>>124286852
Only winning, as far as I know.
But slapping your shitplane on tryhard's faces is another kind of victory.

>>124286852
There's a small credit bonus in the awards section. But that's it.

I used to play Ace Combat 6 on Xbox 360 years ago. Put in some decent hours at the time. I tried to play Assault Horizon on PS3, but after the first 2-3 hours I found it boring compared to 6, especially the chopper gunner and call of duty ac130 style missions. I haven't played any other AC games. So, having said all that: which AC game would be my next best bet. I prefer PC as my platform if possible. Also, sorry for being the token new guy in the general.

>>124288661
Ace Combat 7 soon brother. Maybe Go with the PS2 titles. They don't emulate well but a ps2 is cheap.

>>124288661
X and X^2 work well on any pc, since PPSSPP is made with black magic, apparently.
PS2 games are the best three but generally have problems with emulation.
AC2 aged really well for how old it is and PS1 emulation is easy.

/dng/ vs /drg/ just started

get hype

>>124288661
The AC series was always exclusive to PlayStation platforms.

AC1, 2, and 3 are on PS1.

AC4, 5, and Zero are on PS2.

ACX and ACX2 (also known as Joint Assault) are on PSP.

There's also a 3DS game.

If you can emulate any of them you might as well play them. In all honesty, you can start anywhere. The only one that I wouldn't recommend playing first is 3 because it's a vast departure from the rest of the series.

>>124289201
Good luck /drg/!

>>124289201
>get HOPE

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>>124289403
I actually played the DR games.

Ibuki best girl, where's my Ibuki emblem

>>124290037
I always wanted to play the games but no PSP.

But lets not get off topic here, what time will Bamco talk about their upcoming games tomorrow?

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>>124290037
I disagree

>>124288829
>>124288891
>>124289325
Great advice. I haven't run emulators in a while, so I will start Googling around.

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Ok, we're right next.

<<Let's do this.>>

NUCLEARS READY

Who ready for shit plane infinity supplied stream later tonight?

We'll be doing Falcons, Bugs, and Tomcats (I think.)

After that, more drunken Ace Combat Zero: The Final Lesson ace run.

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>>124290486
>falling for obvious waifubait

>>124290918
Count me in

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>>124290593

>>124290918
How late?

>>124290924
I didn't like hanging around with her as much

>>124289325
>The AC series was always exclusive to PlayStation platforms.
And that's why I moved away from console gaming to only PC gaming ever since Bamco's betrayal by releasing AC6 on X360 instead of PS3

>>124291138
>hanging around
You didn't just go there.

>>124291124
When I get home from work.

Probably like 6:30ish 4chan time.

>Belka fully in control of its clay

>>124292174
JUST

Post link pls!

>>124292174
>The Jews once again kill Ace Combat

>>124292343
uselessnepgear on twatch

>>124292343
>>124292503
It's being hosted here, which is where all the chat are
http://derpy.me/9Zvvj
Game's pretty much over though, /aceg/ play again on Sunday though

JUST

>all this fox 2 missing
these fucking announcers

Well we fought them to most of a standstill
What the fuck is our passing game, though

>against Grand Strategy General
>game was slow as shit
Like a charm

>all that AI chocking
Obviously rigged.

0-2 good grief.
We need gelb on offense and Val on defense, at least he can take hits, and they can make shots.

>>124292891
>Jews killed us
Po-fucking-etic

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>>124292793
The blame is on me. We were tied to the original formations to start and the fact Tickets was in bad conditioning didn't help due to the players positioning. I've tried to change the instructions to avoid a possession game and make faster long playmaking, but didn't work.

I'm really sorry. Can't say it's easy to do everything judging the conditions and situations in game but in the end I'm still getting the hang of live managing so it's still my problem.
I can only say that for the next game we will have a few changes to give more offensive presence.

>holding /gsg/ to 1-0

Thank fuck it wasn't a blowout considering I talked to Nemo about making the gameplan more defensive against them. Next game will bring about a few changes, so keep an eye out. The 80th minute formation adjustment was a clue, and I was seeing it work for our passing game.

>>124293560
Hey, we held a powerhouse to 1-0, and made the game a sleepy one. That's pretty damn good for a new team

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ac7...true...comfirmed...

>>124293965
Any word from PSX?

>>124291447
There was a Gameboy Advance Ace Combat as well. I like AC6, and have no problem with it being on the 360. No need to be a fanboy, just enjoy what you can, when you are able to - Ace.

>>124294145
There is also a smartphone one if you want to dig into the dirt.

>>124294132
PSX isn't till tomorrow

>>124294328
I must admit, I had more fun with the Assault horizon iOS promo app than the game itself

>>124294572
The tragic one is Xi

>>124293965
>>124294132
>>124294494
>PSX isn't until tomorrow
Either the announcement will be on the first day, the second day, or never

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>Aerospace Hard 6 players
>I'm in an attacker with LASM
>one of my teammates switches to a GPB FB-22
>well, more power to you I guess
>after some deliberation, the other teammate switches with LAGMTD
>why
>WHY
>well, maybe we can still swing an A rank
>other team is an F-4G and two multiroles
>we get to see the third phase for all of about seven seconds
>B rank
>the MTD scored somewhere around 20k

>>124295913
How'd the wild weasel do?

>>124297897
Third place, I think. I took top score because attacker LASM on Aerospace Hard, the MVP was one of the multiroles, I think a Rafale, and if I remember right the Weasel was right on that Rafale's heels for score. I reckon he could've taken second if we'd actually gotten some time in the third phase.

>>124295858
The streamed showcase is tomorrow all the announcements will be then, the extra day is for people to play the games on the floor.

Merely 24 hours until we can be free /aceg/. Free to play

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>last sortie of the day
>gold box
>"hell yeah, F-22 but fuel or tickets would be okay"
>76k credits

Fucking Scamco.

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>>124303881
>"hell yeah, F-22 but fuel or tickets would be okay"
>fuel or tickets would be okay
>or tickets would be okay
>tickets
>okay

>>124305092
Tickets equate to planes or cool emblems. Credits equate to 1/1000000000000000000th the cost of the shit I want to buy.

>>124305918
30 Tickets = 1/7 of a plane you will most likely never use and probably already dropped Bar both the fucking nagases and the -DT-, fucking Bamco and their desire sensor on the only planes I would have liked

Credits = credits
I'd take the 76k every day over the 30 tickets

>>124306389
30 tickets = 3/10 of some sweet POOKA emblem or 3/5 the cost of some sweet POOKA nickname.

>>124305918
Yep, tickets sure can get you a sweet level 1 unusable piece of crap.
Those tickets quickly become worthless when you realize they can't do anything for that plane.

Would you rather have AC7 tell the story of how Pixy met Cipher or of you playing as Pixy after the events of ACZ without knowing it until the very end where he speaks for the first time in the whole playthrough when he meets Cipher again in the final mission?

>>124307075
Why do you hate Dig Dug so much? I'd rather get a sweet Mappy emblem or a cool skin for a plane than credits that cover just a minuscule fraction of the cost of the next item in the tree. Hell I could even get a nice goyplane with a nice golden goy skin right now - 76k credits won't get me that.

>>124307319
I'd rather AC7 get released at all. Enjoy your shitty upscaled "HD" remake when it gets announced at the very last hour of the event as a quick aside.

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>when you and your wingman are flying best idol

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>>124307670
>the chestlet
>best

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>>124307670
But dual attacker is a bad idea everywhere except Avalon.

Since in two hours and half I'll probably be away, I'll very soon open a room for the three supplieds.
Feel free to join

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>single engine planes

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I don't know if a video of Intruder's quadUGB was posted anywhere, but here it is anyway.

Still speeds and turns like shit at lv.7, though.

>>124309684
I have it at 10.
Level 4 UGB with range M are enough to clear that whole cluster with a single bomb.
Also it has the biggest UGB load of all the planes, even SP variants, except for the -60- F2.
And for some reason the MG deals a lot more damage than the BRRRRTTTT

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>>124307670
>tfw idorus are getting BTFO in the cup