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Last thread was kill and vanar is actually viable edition

Previous thread
>>123877756
>What is DUELYST?

DUELYST is a competitive strategy card game focused on tactical combat, squad building, and ranked ladder play.

>Play in Chrome
http://beta.duelyst.com/

>Client Download
https://updates.counterplay.co/launcher

>Squad Builder
http://duelystdb.com/

>Forum, Announcements...
http://forums.duelyst.com/

>Faction overview, guides and general information
http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Getting_Started

Now in open beta. Use the referral code "Dair" to get 100g.
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Ded thread, ded game.
Magmar still OP and with no fix in sight.
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Ded general
Game needs some balance patches or good new cards to switch things up, but I guess its beta
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Rook is mah nigga
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>>124074597
anything is good if you play against retards
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>>124074903
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>>124074597
too expensive for 5/5 and can easily be remove.
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>>124073731
>balance
right... I like duelyst at the current state. It's just need more players and more community driven feature like group chat, chat popup, guild creation, tournament, watching games played like in dota2(which i doubt will be implemented because peeking), community creation of pixel/card/suggestion.

The patches seems slow and underwhelming. There's nothing much to do right now. I guess they want capture mobile audience where everyone would jump from game to game.
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>>124075507
Obviously. But refer to the robot above for why i play him.

Just wanted to share some fun
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>Played wraithless abyssian with 4 x shadow creep
>because gauntlet rng is shit
>managed to win 4 before losing to better deck build
I got the 4th shadow creep near the end of deck build and i was like fuck it because no wraith.

Had lyonar gauntlet without immolation, tempest, that 2 mana zeal minion and divine bond. I got beaten at 2-3. Managed to get one 5 win and a few 3s in gauntlet for the day.
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>>124076610
That curve is way too heavy
You want lots of low cost shit to churn out
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>>124076879
The gauntlet didn't let me have low cost minions at all. I had to grab 3/1 maw, 2/3 primus fist and some shit minions so at least i can sacrifice or become meat fodder till i get 7 maa. Managed to beat 300 wins lyonar because i got lucky with early deck he was running away and healing.

I thought i could play some shadow creep build because i got the juggernaut and 2 shadowcreep early in the deck building but nope they shove me shit cards.
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>>124077120
You had like 2 shadowcreep too many, a billion nuke at round 15 won't help you at all since you'll be ded by then
Rather take some bad card instead of another one in that case
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>>124077304
All those matches i won because the game drag on too long when the opponent keep removing my minions. Trace save my ass a lot of time and thx god i got dancing blade which ridiculously good.

I will keep that in mind for next gauntlet. If only i had more heal i think i could pull it off with paddo in the deck.
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>>124077540
Yeah dancing blade is goat in gauntlet
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>>124076610
>Chassis of mechazor
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It's time

What should I pick for my lionar deck?
Thinking arclyte regalia or grandmaster z'ir

Probably z'ir
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>>124082186
another guardian, fucking immolation, maybe regalia
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>>124082186
Holy immo is more important than those two. And regalia>>>>zir. I love the guy, but regalia is just broken and it can shut down the enemy game with ease
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>>124060228
>7 legendaries
>pauper
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>>124082523
>>124083770
thanks friends
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>>124083946
>trusting vetruvian subhumans
>ever
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Blast vetruvian with no 4+ cards (excapt scarab)
I know the only reason it works is that i'm in silver but good god does it shit on songay so hard
You just need 2x ankh to make it work
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>>124088952
poast list
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>>124090887
gladly, what site do i use though?
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>>124090887
nevermind i'm retarded and can't read OP
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>>124091209
literally in the OP
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>>124091209
duelystdb or just screenshot it
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http://duelystdb.com/squad/build#MToyMDEsMToyMDksMToyMTEsMzoyMTMsMzoyMTQsMzoxMDAwMSwyOjEwMDE2LDM6MTAwMTksMToxMDAyMCwxOjEwOTUzLDE6MTA5OTMsMzoxOTAyNSwyOjIwMDc0LDE6MjAwNzYsMzoyMDA5NSwzOjIwMDk2LDE6MjAxNTMsMzozMDAwNiwyOjMwMDA4

It's very thrown-together with what I have but it's still giving me wins

>silvers don't have enough removal to deal with larks/planars in corners
>i can remove whatever threats they throw at me
>matches are 5+ turns of kiting and attrition and they just can't get to me
i can't wait to start getting my shit kicked in at higher ranks
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>playing against songhai
>kill a bunch of his early minions
>he starts spam adding me as a friend in our match
>concedes after i kill another one of his minions
he's probably just gonna flame me, should i add him and post screenshots?
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>>124093423
absolutely
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can you use the referral somehow after already having an account, or is it just at the registering point?
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ranked is a mess right now
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give it a few days, we had reset yesterday
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>>124083946
>7 legendaries
??

the only legendary in that deck is pandora
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>fighting a lyonar wearing three arclyte regalia
and people complain about other factions? jesus
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>play an archon spellbinder
>enemy magmar can't metamorphosis+plasma storm
At last I truly see. How long till it's eventual gutting?
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>>124096489
rakshas curse :^)
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THIS IS THE THIRD FUCKING TIME I FUCKING GOT THIS QUEST AS A REPLACEMENT

JESUS
FUCKING
CHRIST
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None of the races in the gauntlet are what I normally play, never played this before
I just want to gold and cards, what to play?
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>>124100408
Vanar, Magmar and Lyonar are good choices
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>>124099947
>tfw not p2winvian
truly suffering
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lost all 3 arena matches horribly

fuck this game
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>>124096489
artifact defiler
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>>124100167
I think that after you level up all the factions to 11 you don't get their quests anymore. I haven't for the last two times.
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How much further can I go lads?
Im a new f2p silver shitter
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Why is gauntlet so fucking shit?

all the choices I got were worse than the basic fucking decks
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>>124103116
l m a o you're probs just bad
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>>124100167
Magmar is fun though
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>>124102992
better than I did my first time. Probably 4 I guess
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>>124104772
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>summon mechaz0r

>opponent concedes
this is so fun
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Aethermaster worth running 3 of em?
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>>124105543
how's bronze treating you
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>>124105712
maybe, I find that they are usually dispelled.
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>>124105728
im gold, kid
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>>124105856
>he thinks gold is good
L M A O
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>>124105929
never said that, was correcting your nooblord ass LMAO
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>be in gauntlet
>be on 4 hp when lolonar is at 23
>run away for 20 turns while controlling the board with multiple dragur deathlord
>win the game on 2 hp
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>tfw dead game
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>>124111174
>queue time doesn't go over 15 seconds
2/10 made me respond
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>>124109004
so you won because it was gauntlet and he didn't have the right tools in his card pool to stop your faggot coward ass huh

good job
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Why the fuck can't the generals be asthetics instead of diluting the card pool down?
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>>124105543
>Opponent summons Mechazor
>Drop Crossbones
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>>124112895
>1 card basically makes 12 cards useless

quality
balancing
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>>124112201
lore. And besides, it's not uncommon.
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>>124113374
It's shit and preventing me from giving a shit about this game
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>>124113619
okay
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>>124113619
autism
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>>124112201
money
it's always about the money

6 different archetypes with their own exclusive cards?

6x as much card packs you need to get the cards you want because they're all mixed in
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>>124113619
Are you one of those people that either needs to be able to self-insert or jack off to what he's playing?
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>>124112201
of all the reasons to get upset about this game, that's probably the most retarded

>>124114032
please understand what you're talking about before posting
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>all these shills
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I think I want to make a creep deck once I dust 9 legendaries h-haha how good are they?
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>leveling abyss

>run into a magmar
>plasma storm, plasma storm, plasma storm
>game over

>this happens every time

im just gonna concede all magmars, fuck this
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>>124114705
You need to be able to stall until nova, and any player above silver (and probably silvers too) will either dispel your creep before then or have lethal several times over by then (lolsonghai). You're better off either going big abyssian or building a deck around one of the legendaries.
Though
>dusting 9 legendaries
>for a fucking creep deck
Unless we're talking something like 9x nether summoning, I fell for the bait ha-ha tricked by le master ruseman etc.
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>game-ender, core in pretty much any build, is legendary
fucking why
lyonfart gets divine bond as a basic
songay is songay
abysmal gets soulshatter/reflection
>implying blandar
at least fagmars also suffer
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>>124116271
>reflection
i meant nova
point still stands. i love your game counterplay but i'm not gonna spend money on it.
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>>124116410
Most of people with complete decks haven't anyway.
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I could spend 200$ on this game and still not have all the current cards

and it's in Beta


this should be a crime
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>>124116730
Or you can play like a normal person, and not spend any money on this game and still get to dianond/s rank
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So if you Zen'Rui a Vindicator and that's the first minion you summon in that turn, the Zen'Rui gets Rush. Maybe everyone ITT already knows that, maybe not.
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>>124116730
why would you spend $200 when you can get the cards for free by playing the game
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>>124117014
>15 gold every 2 wins drops down to 5 golds per 2 wins
>2.5 gold per win

lol
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>>124114183
In a roundabout way, he's complaing that you can't mix/splash factions in a single deck. Then again, that's what the giant neutral pool is for.
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>>124117098
You literally need to play for hours each day to hit the gold decrease. I don't get how you're literally advocating for a p2w scenario for the game
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how viable is spamming the end turn button for leveling classes
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>>124117481
You need to summon at least 5 minions and also move before it counts.
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>>124117545
alright thanks
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alright how do we make this thing not complete dogshit, and by extension, creep decks viable? because i feel like a midgame card would be enough.
one direction would be to gut the body (3/4 or so), but give it rush and let it spawn creep at the beginning of your turn (including when spawned). spawning creep on kill would probably be overkill, but hey, tuning levers make balance easier.
the other idea i have is to give it celerity, make it 0/6, and have it spawn creep under anything it attacks, as opposed to kills. that would actually make it a threat (because reflection), and allow you to actually use creep offensively as opposed to wait for nova. if the celerity turns out to be broken/just a better version of the 6 drop legendary/not thematically consistent, it could have forced 0 attack (like obelysks), or have have frenzy instead.
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>>124116935
didn't know that
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>>124116935
does it work if vindicator's effect was already used (minion summoned next to it)?
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>>124119657
put it in a Lyonar deck and use Divine Bond
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>>124119657
Creep is a shit mechanic and should never be viable unless it gets reworked.
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>>124119657
I was reading a post on the forums saying that creep was too powerful a year ago. They couldn't find a decent way to balance it, and they basically nerfed it to what it is now.
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How good would a pseudo magmar abyssian deck be?

As in, darkfire sacrifice and breath of the unborn
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>>124120979
If you're referring to big abyssian, which is basically abyssian control, it used to be pretty good until the sarlac nerf
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>>124119657
Shadow creep is extremely helmet so it shouldnt be good
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>>124119657
if you want to keep the shadowcreep keyword:
>3/6 for 4 mana: Spawn Shadowcreep on hit/counterhit

if not:
>3/6 for 4 mana: Dying Wish: Spawn 2 wraithlings on random adjacent tiles
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>>124100167
ONCE
AGAIN
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I have winterblade which work well, but it's still a 1/15 chance. They all kinda look bad though.
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>>124123048
coldbiter

none of those other shit are worth the mana
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>win a gauntlet game by deck out
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>>124121936
Sup /dng/
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>>124124268
were you playing vanar against a vetruvian
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>>124124936
Did I summon voice of the wind the turn before you scooped?
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>>124125067
i clearly deserved to win that match and you should've conceded first

it's dishonorable to ruin a guy's sick ranged strats like that

fucking avalanche
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>>124125550
I took avalanche over a better card because i knew there would be faggots who thought I didnt draft it, its won me 4 out of 6 games so far

Based dragur lord giving me tons of value
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>>124126101
Exactly why i have z'ir

NOBODY expects z'iri
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Jaxi represents a 2/2 (1 mana) and a 1/1 ranged airdrop (doesn't exist right now but reasonable to call it 2 mana). Zen'rui is a 4/3 (3 mana) with an attached spell that removes Jaxi (3 mana) and gives a Jaxi to you (3 mana). Stay ahead of the Jaxi decks by crafting a Zen'Rui today.
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>want to play gauntlet
>realize I'm gonna get shit on again and waste 50 gold
:(
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>>124127265
>900 spirit to counter a 40 spirit common
HahahhhhahhahaaahhhhhhhhhhHhHhHhHhhh
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>>124127275
nah lad im 6/1 on my first gauntlet and ive never made it past silver

>>124126689
but why would you pick zir when all lolonars other legos are actually good?
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>>124127420
Every time you Zen'Rui a Jaxi you have essentially gained 40 spirit. Just steal a Jaxi 23 times and you've come out ahead!
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>>124127567
Because i also have all of them

also decimate is trash
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>>124127654
>each time a silithar elder hatches you've essentially got a F r e e 900 spirit
Play magmar today!
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Is there a list of rewards per gauntlet wins anywhere?
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>>124127987
Magmar also has Fractal Replication, a spell that can generate up to 1800 spirit for a mere 6 mana. No wonder people call Control Magmar overpowered!
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>>124127567
>nah lad im 6/1 on my first gauntlet and ive never made it past silver
but i dont know how to play really

im sub30 games
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>>124128439
well youll never git gud with that attitude
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drafted as best i could
1) no legos
2) my 1 epic pack were the three worst epics: boundless courage, aspect of the drake, winterblade.

i could probably hit 10 wins with it
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Why the fuck is gauntlet on Wednesday not Saturday or Sunday?
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>>124130629
hownew.etc

it's on wednesday AND saturday
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>>124130629
maximum income
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Jaxi is such a welcome addition for Abyssian

JAXI A CUTE
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Are there any shitty neutral cards that should never be used that I can disassemble?
I'm interested in a whole bunch of factions and I'd rather not disassemble everything for a single deck but getting cards through packs takes forever.
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>>124132085
Where do you get these gifs?

>>124132110
Black Locust and Paddo come to mind.
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>>124133367
I have neither of those as I just started playing.
Also is Black Locust not decent in a deathwatch Abyssian deck?
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>tfw can't break rank 16
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>When the keks think you dont have avalanche
8/1 now
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>>124133907
No, a 4 mana 2/2 is ridiculous already, but its effect is too slow to really make effective use of it and it trades down against so many creatures and removal spells.
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>>124133907
locust is way too slow
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>playing minion spam/blast/control vet
>don't have third wish yet but i'm in silver, i don't need it vs shitters without a metric fuckton of removal
>completely styling upon a songay, wiping his setup every turn, hugging the back wall, keeping myself healthy
>i get him to lethal because lol songhai vs attrition
>game fucking crashes
>i get a loss
>next game is vs blandar, the only faction i haven't figured out a counter strat to yet
>i auto-concede out of frustration
at least it's still beta
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>>124136749
vanar is the weakest faction my friend
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>>124136998
they are vs meta decks, but they directly counter my playstyle
it's frustrating
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>>124133367
http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Duelyst_Wiki

or just google
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>walls of silithar elders crashing into eachother
Magmar control mirrors are pretty fun desu
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Where is that damn dog when you need it?
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>>124143961
>5/13 scarab
>that hand
RIP badguy
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>crossbones doesnt hit blast even though it is just an upgrade of ranged
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>start shitting on some magmar player
>remove things he puts out
>he uses double plasma storm, double egg morph, natural selection, and mana burn to get rid of my things
>still winning with budget Abyssian
>he drops 2 makantors to get rid of my shit
>get rid of them and keep chasing him
>double emerald rejuv triple healing mystic
>STILL winning
>drops slithar elder
>get rid of it and its eggs
>he drops ANOTHER archon spellbinder and traps me with provoke
>his egg hatches
>drop a dude and draw into shadow reflection
>I can win next turn
>if he hits me with Elder, Archon, and Rock Pulverizer and himself
>1 hp
>I CAN WIN
>mana burn
Magmar players should fucking kill themselves. How can you just get dicked the entire game and STILL come back through extreme value of all your retarded god damn units. I didn't even DROP a legendary and still would've won and he goes through his entire deck and wins because he has the most broken bullshit despite playing like a retard.

Fuck Magmar players, I can't wait until this class gets fucking put in the gutter.
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I'm still wondering why there isn't a movement speed stat on the cards. Feels kind of stupid that every unit moves at the same speed.
They probably would have to change the displacement cards if they'd introduce movement speed.
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>>124146432
>all magmar units can only move 1 square a turn
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>>124146407
>all this butthurt
Lmao
Win earlier shitter
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>>124146631
How can you win with no minions on the field :^))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>124146693
>what is 10 damage out of hand 7 drop
rarer cards generally being straight up better is a staple of TCGs
accept it and move on
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>>124146896
Man wish I paid for one of those. Too bad I'm stuck outplaying someone and still losing because his deck has 6 legendaries and 8 epics, along with 10 broken ass faction exclusive commons that no other class can even compare to!
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>>124147119
that is the sad reality of meta decks/characters in ALL games, not just TCGs, they can often afford to fuck up a lot more than you can
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>>124147119
>tfw third wish, absolute core, is legendary
>tfw i can only beat skrubs without it because i need to build a literal armada while kiting to lethal
I feel ya bruv. Thankfully the devs aren't Blizz and actually care about balance, so Fagmar is probably gonna get nerfed soon...ish.
If you like the game itself, hang in there and grind up. Giving up on some factions entirely helps too, with more dust from orbs. Get them all to 11 and fuck around with what you can patchwork together before you make your choice, though.
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>>124147462
>implying you need an armada when you can just drop star's fury and get free 15+ damage
OY VEY
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Vanar or Lyonar for Gauntlet?
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>>124147721
my playstyle involves constant board clearing with blasts/jaxi in tough to reach spots, so it's not really a viable win condition
but yeah looking at it it does cover some holes in my deck, i hope it drops soon
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>>124148269
lyonar
you don't need a lot to start shitting on people
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Putting dirty Songhai players in the trash where they belong
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8 wins with vanar
all losses to lyonar
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>>124150237
git gud
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>Get blown up for 20 damage by the enemy's Lysian Brawler boosted from War Surge and Divine Bond
I can't even get mad about it. I grew careless and paid the price, throwing away my dominating early lead.
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>>124149172
good thing you hid your name I was about to hack you
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>>124153684
Do whatever you want, just don't make me play Songhai
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Guys, when fighting Abyssian remember to always account for the Turn 3 double Soulshatter Pact + Wraithlings combo that ends up hitting you for 15 damage.

;-;
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>Poor Little Magmar
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>>124154667
>bullying someone still using golems
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>>124154760
>not bullying the most cancerous faction
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>>124155092
They may be the most cancerous from a powerlevel standpoint but songay is the most cancerous from a conceptual standpoint
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>>124155214
why does magmar have so many retardedly efficient spells anyway?
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>>124155601
its not just spells
everything magmar has is amazing, it is the all in one faction
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>>124155214
Songay is way more cancerous in every way. The only faction that can completely ignore board presence and then win
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>>124155775
while that's true, makantor warbeast aside, no particular creature stands out to me as much as the collective power of Magmar's spells.
Plasma Storm and Natural Selection give them crazy good removal for super cheap, mana burn gives them a dispel and EXTRA REMOVAL.
Earth Sphere is 8 health for only FOUR MANA. Greater Fortitude gives 2 in each stat for just 1. And then there's Bounded Lifeforce as a giant endgame fuck you.
Dampening Wave is also pretty good but I like the card and think it's fine.
Any one or two of these spells in a single faction would already warrant a lower general power level among other spells and monsters and yet they're not lacking in efficiency or raw power anywhere else.
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>>124156224
>in b4 everyone complains about silithar elder
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>>124156527
Why do decks even take out the dogs, anyway? Even when I play lyonar I never seem to have enough
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>>124156224
I'd rather just have rejuvenator
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Would Vanar be overpowered if Stun took away the opportunity to retaliate?
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>>124158465
winterblade would probably need to be nerfed but otherwise I doubt it would be broken
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>>124146294
FUCK OFF MAGMAR SHIT!!!!
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>>124155214
The most cancerous faction list is:
Tier 1.
Vetruvian (Actual vetruvian and not your pauper crap)
Songhai (combo always makes shitters (see, you) mad)
Le gay bara lizard of many value (Memerange makes shitters (see, you) mad)
Tier 2
Lyonar (big buts that are hard-ish to remove+divine bond=sneaky lethal to make shitters butthurt)
Tier 3
Abyssian
Vanar
Gaylems
Arcashits
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>>124160753
So are vetruvian all robots or something?

I'm kind of intrigued to see what the deal with this game is when the codex comes out.
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One more so that this thread doesn't die overnight while everyone is asleep or at work.
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Let's get some data

http://www.strawpoll.me/6165364
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What's the point of Khymera if it doesn't have rush? It seems even worse than Black Locust, are the developers just determined to have the monthly legendaries be utter garbage?
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>>124162114
From what we know/stypulate
1. Everyone has robobytes
2. Vetruvian seem to be sightly arabic/egypcian and full on robots and summoners
3. Smegmar are monsterboys all day long, they also evolve (silithar young>veteran>elder)
4. Vanar are crazy mountain guys
5. Lyonar seems the generic goodguy empire
6. Abyss is the generic badguy empire
7. Songhai are the generic technoasians
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>>124162301
>tfw no money for a fursuit
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Just wondering, is there any faction/general thats absolute shit? thats a no-no to play..
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>>124132085
I really like him in Vanar because of razorback
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Well, this might be a destiny call to play lyonnar. Can't believe I finally got a good orb, it's been like ten balls filled with nothing.
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>>124162989
>890 dust
Good lord
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>>124163023
>Dusting archy
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>>124163023
dunno about elyx, but archon is stayingfor sure.
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>>124163023
>>124162989
>>124163301
Elyx is excellent, should be 1x in most lyonar decks.
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>pick songay to main
>like how you can change your strat depending on your starting hand
>it's the fucking hunter of the game
welp
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>>124165918
>>like how you can change your strat depending on your starting hand
Yeah, it goes from 'throw everything at his face' to 'throw everything at his face'
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>>124166107
Pretty much,should I complain when magmar is either throw glass cannons at it or tend my monsters until it's 10/10
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>Just got tipped for the first time after a back and forth game where we both went to empty decks

I feel all snuggly inside.
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just beat wagnozac off his pro nothing to play turn 1 strat

>me being bad
>i just play snow chasers
> play all my minions in a line because fuck stars fury
>win

i don't think he ever drew stars fury though
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>page 9
ddea gmae
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>enemy summons mechazor
>summon crossbones
>he concedes

best feeling
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Started today, pretty fun game. Like it better than Hearthstone.

Vetruvian is suffering to start, but I've managed to make it work against shitters in Silver.
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>>124162301
>captcha to vote

no thank you
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>>124170138
Just a heads up, its good decks are expensive as hell, so it's probably not a great class to begin with unless you're cool with dusting a bunch of other factions or running mediocre decks
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I guess it's best to open your orbs at night or something.
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>>124156224
Young Silithar is one of the best 2-drops
Veteran Silithar is an amazing value creature and can sometimes carry a mid-game on its back
Silithar Elder can win games on its own unless dealt with immediately
Rebirth as a whole is just a very powerful keyword considering how much of the game is fighting for board presence.
Makantor is obviously insanely strong for any number of reasons
Special mention to grow minions who are fairly powerful in gauntlet
On top of massive amounts of removal spells
Bounded Lifeforce is garbage
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>>124162301
Vanar GOAT
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>>124160753
As long as this artist stays away from drawing human heads/faces he's great.
But jesus christ learn how to draw lips sometime, guy.
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Why does portal guardian have frenzy
That's just stupid
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>>124172467
just dispel it :^)
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>play Jax
>draw Portal Guardian next turn
every time
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>>124172467
>>124172578
I don't get the memes. I play a lot of vetruvian and the guy is mostly dispel bait. Strong, yes, but not that big of a problem, and I think that I never got to make it really big beyond 3-4 damage at best, and unless you position yourself like a retard and allow me to play 4 dervishes with star fury it will take at least 1 or 2 turns to grow. I have more issues beating a veteran since dispels alone don't do the trick.
Now aymaras in vetruvian, that's offensive. If you don't have an immediate answer you might as well concede.
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post your reaction when
divine bond
divine bond
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any of you faggots playing in the tournaments today?

http://challonge.com/KotCC

http://battlefy.com/panda-gaming/bloodborn-04/562eaa78e8c4004800bfa9fe/teams

I've been fucking awake since 1pm yesterday so I should really sleep for the, whatever, 3.5 hours I have before check-in, if I'm actually fucking doing this, but holy shit.

some of the people here are really bad shit kittens i've beaten on ladder, so i'm gonna try to only play to get some more fucking gold. a top 8 finish would be fine.
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>could easily get AT least 100 people to download this game and play it

>No desire to, because I gain nothing from it


you think league of legends got popular without referrals?

get it together counterplay you jews
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>>124173408

i drafted 4 of these in gauntlet

literally won me games where they had 25 health

pic related.

divine bond x3 on suntide maiden gave me 21 damage on her.
the fox is mine from another minion he turned into a fox (3 attack).
and then general attack for 2.
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>>124173408
>mfw divine bond divine bond divine bond on Kiri
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>>124173045
I'm vanar and just 3 dmg on it completely rapes me
It's also too cheap to make bounce really worth it although that often ends up being the solution you have to use
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>>124173408
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>>124174008

his official name is "celerity nigga"

>>124173903

are people really this selfish?
league took off because it's team-based, an "us vs them" thing, where people can play with their family and friends IRL.

this is a 1v1 game and will never have that kind of situation.

it's not like SC2 where you can do 2v2 also, and have a team, or do coop vs ai, or other casual baddie stuff that attracts typical league players.
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>>124174160
>are people really this selfish?
Why the fuck should I advertise this game for them, for free?
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>>124174301
but no one is asking you to advertise it?
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>>124174301

because it's fun and you want to share it with friends that you're not just farming referrals off of?

or are all your friends just targets for your shitty sales act to improve your own account?

do you sell those pyramid scheme energy drinks for a living?
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>>124173408
>3 x divine bond on inactive unit
>dispel it next turn
gotta love retard. He could of won if he wait a turn to divine bond because i do not have good removal and all of my units are dying.
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>play as magman for the day
>9 wins a row
>shoot up to rank 15 so fast
At this pace i think i can break rank 5 the next day.
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THIS FUCKING CARD!! I think it's the only card that ever brought me victory. Not a fucking 25/25 shadow watcher could turn every game with this debuff + nightsorrow assassin.
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>>124175486
its pretty good
nightsorrorw assassin+shadow reflection is p good too
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>>124174160
pretty much this. The game lacks
1. Advertisement
2. Loyal fans unlike warcraft blizzdrones
3. Ingame Community feature outside buddy chat which is not that great desu(no pop-up, have to click outside the battle for chatting)

The only ever active forum is the official one and this general. Official forum is riddled with foreigners with broken english and shit guide.

The game has a lot of potential but i think the dev just wanted to launch on mobile platform instead of focusing for better features.
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>>124175568
meh that combo require 6 mana and no taunt which most of the time opponent has. This card and assassin could reset the board.
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>>124174160
>are people really this selfish?
no one knows about this game
i havent told anyone about this shit because
1. I benefit nothing from it
2. it's a f2p cashin clearly designed for mobile
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>>124175785
They're planning on a steam launch, but at this point do you really want to see a large influx of players? There isn't much content currently and people would probably get bored pretty fast. I think it's more likely they're waiting for a large expansion to start another phase of advertising.
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>>124175976
>launching on steam
I don't why they want to suck valve's dick so much.

>There isn't much content currently
I wish they have story driven contents that unlock with golds.
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>>124103116
>0 win
even my non-aoe lyonar and no starfurry/firstwish/third wish vetruvian still had 2 wins.

I think you just suck.
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>>124176142
Because steam will give them a huge audience boost. But the downside to that is if they launch and they have the current content we see now the poor ste reviews are gonna kill them and they'll never recover.
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>>124176142
>story behind a paywall
Fuck off.
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STEAM RELEASE WITH MARKETABLE CARDS WOULD SAVE THIS DYING GAME
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>>124176283
Golds are easy to get. I think i have never been below 500 golds in this game.
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>>124176410
I don't give a fuck about you. I don't want to pay anything for single player fucking content. This isn't HS.
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>>124176328
it would fill the game with cancer features that drive artist that only care to suck your wallet dry instead of making the game better.
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>>124176486
hahahahaha
the fact that there are different rarity tiers and disenchanting gives you roughly 1/4th of the value of the card it's already like that retard
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>>124176607
Compared to hearthstones costs this game is quite generous
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>>124176607
it's 1/3rd or they change it?
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>>124176927
and it's easy to get legendary. I think i have 10 or something already just from orbs. And i have non-legendary lyonar deck that get me to rank 5.
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>be lyonar
>summon jaxi
>they kill my jaxi, minijaxi spawns
>next turn I auryn nexus mini jaxi twice, and divine bond it twice for lethal

:^)
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>tfw climbing all the way up to S-Rank after all that suffering last season
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>>124177213
>i drew a 4-card lethal at 15 vs a shitter who doesn't play around jaxi/didn't draw removal
wew lad
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>>124177523
>tfw stuck in silver this season
RNG is fucking with me today. 2 chymeras and they drop fucking mechaz0r and that spirit of the montains. I try it and mine drop fucking paddos.
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>if Scion's First wish doesn't draw a card, the buff isn't applied
wat
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>>124177848
Wait, what
It's impossible to not draw a card since you're using first wish
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>>124178071
It is apparently, when the card drawn is burned. I didn't notice I had a full hand before casting.
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>>124178126
What? You won't have a full hand after the cast though. The first wish gets used and then you draw a new card
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>>124178271
I don't know what happened. I cast that thing, saw one of my cards burn and my minion didn't get a buff. I don't know what the fuck was going on.
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>>124177237
show deck
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>>124178523
I phrased that wrong. I was referring to pain of dealing with all this shit from silver back to where I was.
I am running a SF+TW+Ayamara vet dick.
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>>124178580
>p2winvian
>complaining
Might I refer you to the works of the artist known as Viper?
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I need spirit
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>>124178715
>implying fagzilla, healyonar, lantern fox songay, mechaz0r faggottry aren't as cancerous as sf+tw vet.
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>>124178796
Magmar is the gentleman thinking man's faction. The rest are all for faggots
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>>124178863
>metamorph + plasma storm
>wow such think
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>>124178863
Gay, lizard-loving perverts aren't gentlemen.
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>>124178935
>>124178969
Butthurt vetkeks detected
Show me on your general where the silithar elder touched you
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How underwhelming are the season rewards later on?

Lets say I hit the highest rank, what does that earn me?

1month windows seem hella long
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>>124179247
S rank receives 1x of all the 4 new monthly cards (one for each rarity) plus a random legendary plus spirit and gold.

Diamond receives the monthly Lego+rare+epic plus gold and spirit

Who cares about the other ones cause dianond is easy as shit to get
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>>124179384
Okay, started playing 1 day before ladder reset and hit silver and the rewards were pretty ass

what do those ribbons mean under peoples names?

fought a guy in silver with 4 of them
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>>124179483
1 ribbon each 100 wins with that faction.
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>>124179570
holy shit that acolade layout looks like shit

they need to be smaller and go down horizontally
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>>124179713
>go down horizontally
what
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>>124179780
vertically
i just wokeup
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>>124178737
not that badly.
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>>124179570
>1500 wins with various factions
Jesus Christ
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>>124180138
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>>124180223
You're a dumb dumb.
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>>124180223
>dusting third wish instead of oserix and time maelstrom
AhhhhhHhhhhHhhHhHh
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>>124180270
Vetruvian are gay

I'd have gladly traded it for any other legendary :^)
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:3
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>>124180441
>game over on 5th turn
nice game lolbabbies
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>have a perfect deck
>don't draw answers in time
Fuck these kinds of games.
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the only thing keeping me from spending money on this game is the lack of trading

this is coming from someone who spent roughly 2k on yugioh cards over the years
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whats the best win farm deck

i just want gold so me and my friend can duel eachother
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>>124180928
Blizzard made it standard for online CCG to not allow trading of cards, it won't go anytime soon.
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>>124180928
>T. jewtruvian that desires the destruction of the game ASAP


The jude is to be aus raused. 14//88! Hail dredge!
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>>124181095
I-I'll just make my own card game!
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>>124181403
>nobody buys your packs
>Kikes and jews scalp it up
>You never win money
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>>124181475
>make trading Rarity based
>1 common for 1 common
>1 uncommon for 1 uncommon
>everyones happy
>jews lose
>>
What if trading was both behind a paywall and rarity based 1:1?
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>>124181571
>>124181571
>Jews
>lose


HAHAHAHA.

look, this is how it works
>The kike wins
>You lose
>The end.
>>
Lets brainstorm how duelyst could have fair trading

>1:1 Rarity trading with maybe a spirit/gold cost per trade
>20$ "supporter" pack that comes with 18 packs and the ability to trade
>Only 1 person in the trade needs to have supporter pack
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We literally don't need trading
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>>124181826
>kiketruvian spotted that spent 100$ already
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>>124181882
Spent 0 and got to diamond with a shitter deck :^)
Literally git gud
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>>124181818
>Only 1 person in the trade needs to have supporter pack

if that happens then it becomes a one way transaction like TF2's.
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>>124181882
Have all vet legendaries except Maelstrom without paying anything.
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>>124181882
All kiketruvians share a thing
1. They desire the destruction of the game at ANY cost
2. They're subhuman kikes
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>>124182284
Literally play the game and get cards. It's that easy. Crafting costs would have to take a huge hit if trading existed
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I don't understand, are vetruvians retarded as hell if they have all the legos or something?
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>>124182625
Fagmar shitposter pls go kill yourself.
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>>124182358
ANY game with trading is run and owned by the trading kike.
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>>124183202
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>tfw sandbagging for balancing changes
I really want to make an abyssian deck
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Arclyte regalia is fucking broken nerfs when
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>>124186378
I wanted to ask earlier but

If I equip 3x arclyte regalia

And the opponent has 5 attack monsters

they all attack me

but because they deal less than 7 damage I'm not really taking damage, my artifacts don't take damage, correct?
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>>124186378
Expensive, slow, a 4 drop that competes in an overcrowded slot and most often than not clogs your hand isn't very good.
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going hypermode end turn summon concede at 5 minions and niggers still take 3 years to end their turn
when will the suffering end
i just want level 10 so i can make a serious deck and start giving a fuck
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>>124186447
The first time I tried to fight someone stacking them I was trying to figure out why their stacks never went away
>>
The main problem with a lot of the cancer in this game is this: There is no sidedecking, at all

you either slap some very specific shit like artifact destruction, crossbones, etc in your deck or get raped by specific shit later on randomly
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>>124188014
That's an inherent problem with the best of 1 ladder system, I guess counterplay could introduce a new game mode where you play best of 3 or 5. Don't know how popular that mode would be though.
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>>124189092
if matches had increased gold output to compensate for the longer time then I imagine it would be more popular since best of 3 is more skill.
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>>124186763
>Expensive
It's 4 damage and it can shut down some faction like vanar and songhai. At his worst is an annoyance
>slow
??? it's a fucking artifact, you drop it and use it. It isn't an autodrop as soon as it comes to your hand, but that doesn't mean that it ain't good.
>overcrowded slot
lyonnar plays for the mid game. 4 mana isn't that expensive for what it does. If rasha's curse didn't exist I would stack them.
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>>124190238
Bo3 counts each game individually for the purposes of winning gold.
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>>124189953
Dunno that much about abyss but craft and add that 4/1 rush. It's fucking amazing and it's common.
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>>124189953
-3 shadow meme
-3 abymemesal memernaut
-2 Unborn
-1 Dark TF
+3 primus fist
+3 Shadow reflect
+3 4/1 rushgirl
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How the fuck do you deal with plasma storm, manaburn, natural selection as abyssian
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>>124190975
Shadowdancers
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>>124191437
priestess and dancer are too overcosted 2bh. should be 3 and 4 respectively
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>>124191437
5 mana is too much
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>>124191804
I agree with dancers but 3 mana priestesses would be extremely difficult to deal with if you don't have targeted removal.
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Will aggro decks ever come back? I'm tired of spending +20 minutes in one game
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>>124193898
you don't like spending 30+ mins for a chance at 2 wins for 15 gold? :^)
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>>124193898
>not playing magmar aggro
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>>124190294
Lyonar is stacked on 4 mana and regalia is dead 80% of the time. If you can't see why regalia is bad , I can't do anything for you. 1 of might be acceptable, but nothing more and it certainly doesn't warrant a nerf.
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>>124194773
>regalia is dead 80% of the time
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This game needs a spell taunt minion. It will have to be overpriced or say that it must be targeted by ALL spells.
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Which one of these with easy adjustments is most likely to get me to gold/diamond?

And how do I do it
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>>124195327
Literally doesn't effect magmar
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>>124195332
The Abyssian deck is nearly a mirror of mine. I don't run Void Hunter, Primus Fist, 3 Shadowdancers, or the Saberspines. Songhai will probably get you there easier if you remove the Jaxi and Void Hunters and maybe a Shroud, Songhai doesn't need that shit to be cancer
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is there some sort of strategic advantage to putting yourself in this position I haven't seen yet or is it just shitters?
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>spells that affect the whole board now only affect this minion
Are vanar and abyssian saved?
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>>124196986
>9 mana 2 health 2 attack
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>>124196863
Wait, what? What do you use instead?
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>>124196949
It's a good position to surround an opponent but it works better with stronger minions. Unless the azure horn died before you ended your turn, it's kind of useless.
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>>124195327
>>124196986
my main complaint is spells have very little counterplay
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>>124197436
I run 3 azure 3 primus 3 darkfire but thinking about giving up primus since i mainly have to replace them for something else usually
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>>124197703
just use soulshatter if you want atk+
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>>124197253
For Abyssian? I threw in some Rejuvs and I don't have a Revenant so I use 2 Vorpal Blades instead and I have 2 Spectral Blades. I really like Grailmaster in the deck, thinking about making a second one.
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How are people with 100+ wins so shit?
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So uh, what are the chances this game is just gonna bomb a year after release like Scrolls? I don't wanna waste my time on another helping of disappointment.
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>>124197483
Don't bring secrets, though. One way to do it would be to so something like:
>Make plasma storm cost 1 less
It triggers at the end of your opponent's turn
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>>124204579
Just play PoxNara instead
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>>124204579
so if a game dies, all previous enjoyment of it was a waste?

what the fuck kind of autist mentality is that?
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>>124204121
When you have all the cards the only thing deciding the matches' outcome is draw RNG.
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>>124204979
isnt pox nora dead though?
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>>124205510
some guy here keeps shilling it so I didn't think so.
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>>124206119
http://steamcharts.com/app/201210
Steam charts are not entirely accurate for games that were originally released somewhere else but it still gives you an idea that this game is dead.
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>>124205261
My enjoyment isn't wasted, but it does mean that any effort or money I put into it is wasted, because I cant play anymore.
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>>124201339
Don't you mean, vorpal reaper and dancing blades?
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>>124186447
Only for the first instance of damage
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>>124195198
It really is, not even that anon
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>>124207571
You should probably use the words "not always a good play" because a card being dead means that it is ineffective. Razorback could be dead if you have nothing on board, flash reincarnation would be dead if you had no minions in hand. Regalia will never be dead because you can always use it to whack something or use it as damage reduction when low on life.
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>>124207237
Vorpal Reaver, yes. Dancing blade, no. Spectral Blade is the 2 mana epic Abyssian artifact
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>>124208546
Too many blades. That might be why abyssian players are always on the edge
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>had 1 health and jax/lark in the corner
>vanar had 20 health and minions lined up but too close to blast away
>TIME MAELSTROM
>TOPDECK 2x Y'KIR
>I WIN
holy fucking shit thank you based legendary
it is an absolute godsend in an attrition-based control deck
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>>124208546
Too bad, I don't have the spirit for either.
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>>124209112
>>TIME MAELSTROM
>>TOPDECK 2x Y'KIR
nice pay2win
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>>124209836
didn't spend a cent niggaaaah
got 2 of em just from orbs
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>>124209112
Jax, dragon lark and a 6 Atk general?

that's still about 7 dmg short if you assume minis..
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>>124210151
i didn't win the next turn, it let me clear and build enough of a barricade that she couldn't lethal out of hand
i dropped a cosmiced mystic and entangler between us
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Seriously how did you guys get to gold
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>>124213080
by not playing right after ranked reset
be patient, then stomp the shitters and mediocres
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>>124213080
I spammed mechahai with some foxes. Before gold people don't know how to play against mechaz0r, in gold people go full retard when they see you using mechaz0r pieces after they "manaburn le mechaz0r :^)" forgetting about basic stuff like mist dragon spell or ignoring the fact that you are mostly using it for distraction while fishing for the foxes. It doesn't work in diamond though.
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>>124213080
play something not shit
dont be shit at the game
seriously diamond is easy as fuck.
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>mana burn an opponents silithar elder
>he bms me emotes and fractal replicates it
>the replications are also dispelled
>he concedes
L M A O
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>>124214972
Post your deck and rank
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>>124215406
Wait, so what? It's still 3 8/6 no?
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>>124216654
Yeah, across the map versus my two elders. He thought it would clone two elders with all the abilities
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>>124214972
S is easy as fuck
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>>124217220
Reaching S from Diamond is literally a roulette of good or bad draws: >>124205416
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>>124217220
>1.8 card packs and 155 spirit + 5 shit cards for getting the highest rank
duelbabbies?
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>>124217476
I've gotten it consistently since I've started playing it. I got it in less than a week last month. I think it's about time to get good.
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>>124218336
Post dick, then.
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>>124217689
>5 shit cards
Silverbabbies?
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>>124218616
Only jaxi is good
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>>124218616
only jax is good in that pool
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>>124218709
>>124218812
That makes it 4 shit cards retards LMAO
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>>124218709
>>124218812
>dissing mountain
Nigga what?
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>>124219154
>playing vanar
Lmao
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>>124219217
>not playing vanar
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>>124219154
>playing vanar
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>>124218421
I change it up every season to deal with the current meta because I don't braindead netdeck my way to the top.

Honestly not even that happy with this current incarnation but it hasn't been having any trouble winning so I guess it's fine.

>>124219217
The faction may be shit, but I'm always scared of mountain. You might as well shit talk Fenrir too.
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>>124219545
Hurr
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>>124219762
>p2winvian
Lmao
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>vet mirror
>he drops obelysk
>planar, siphon, ankh
>rasha
>drop obelysk in front of him, second wish
>he decays obelysk, kills planar
>drop pyro, equip my second ankh because wtf 2 ankhs
>he scorches my pyro and diagonally drops weavers and caster, to avoid getting his ass blasted
>lol sf
>he ragequits
i know he was trash but it feels good to completely style upon shitters
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>>124220205
>played them back when these threads would call them shit-tier, on-par with vanar
>was constantly the only one telling people how fucking wrong they were
>now it's the current meme to call them OP
>after the last tournament was nothing but magmar control
Haven't spent a dime and I'm enjoying everyone's tears at the totally bullshit Third Wish.
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What's the next overpowered bullshit? I bet it's gonna be abyssian again after vetruvian and Magmar get their nerfs
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>>124221581
But they're either really weak to plasma storm or their big guys are overcost compared to others.

And if you want to kill really fast songhai decks are better
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>>124221134
>M-muh-muh-muh smegmar!
Spot the anally broken vetkek!
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>>124222151
But I called my faction bullshit? Don't meme out on me, son. Try to be civilized here.

Third Wish being an anal devastator doesn't change tourney results.
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>get assassin and ultimate agressor quests
>finish them both in a single painful (for the vanar lol), excruciatingly slow game of blast kiting across the board
something's fucky
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>Trying to level up Vanar when everyone and their mother is playing Mechazor and my only real answer to it is hoping I can dump Ethereal Shroud on it or draw Crossbones
I miss Magmar.

Vanar is such shit in general too. I mean yeah games are winnable and whatnot but it feels tedious and inconsistent too by design. I am not feeling this Vespyr garbage.
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>>124180378
You're not very smart, are you?
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>>124223540
Then again
>Summon like 5 Vespyr Maerids with Voice of Wind
>Watch as the Frostfire boosted Arctic Displacer pins down Lilithe and gives her the knot
>Get to Level 11 with Vanar and another Elucidator and another Dagger Kiri out of the pack
Now I can move on.
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>>124225425
With Vanar, if it werks it truly werks
Until tempest annihilates you
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Vanar have a lot of strong things going for them, but I think at the end of the day their main problem is that they're very combo-y - but their combos are all just powerful forms of board control. For the same mana and cards spent, other factions combo into wins while Vanar combos into board states.

Also infiltrate is a really stupid mechanic, stun isn't nearly powerful enough to be on that many of their cards, and walls feel underwhelming.

How do we even fix infiltrate? It feels both underwhelming and boring to play with and against. It's just a worse zeal (which I'm already not particularly fond of) at this point.
Maybe if more spells had limited ranges and more units had varying levels of movement and attack range both mechanics might be more interesting.
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>>124226647
Just give them card draw
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>>124226647
Introduce anti-infiltrate for when they're on your side of the battlefield
Like, 2/2 minion, gets +2 attack when infiltrating, gets +2 health when defending
Opens up more decks
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A minion that prevents opening gambits.

y/n?
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>>124227543
>elucidator becomes 5/4 rush for 4 mana
good god pls no
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>>124227741
>prevents enemy opening gambits
fixed
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>>124227891
>cheap with weak body, either too weak or too strong
>costly with weak body, pretty much useless
>costly with strong body, hard counter to mechdecks and not much else
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>>124226647
When I started playing I thought Vanar might be some kind of ramp faction on account of Crystal Wisp. Turns out Crystal Wisp is just there because reasons.
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Does Songhai need a counter for people humping the back wall?
It ruins my "fun"
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>>124230450
Juxtapose
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>>124230450
>>124230545
wait I've misread

Sticking a heartseeker in the back
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>>124230450
I play a spellslinger deck so whenever people hug the wall I just laugh and play solitaire.
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Post utter rape thanks to based RNGsus
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>Decimate
>Sunstone Templar
Are these worth holding onto? Especially Decimate, minions are going to spend most of their time near the general anyway.
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>>124228245
3 mana 3/2 ?
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>>124232154
Songweaver's the same drop, and he's too slow to be useful. The effects are pretty similar too (i want my setup to survive/i don't want my anus pounded).
I don't think it'd be viable above 2 mana.
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>>124231981
Lol I just got both of them in a pack.
Decimate is shit, sunstone is a tech card.
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>>124232470
Songweaver only works for your next turn though, not as long as he's out. I'd definitely be running songweavers if they worked for as long as they were out.
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>>124232578
No, you wouldn't. Too many spells get around the effect.

Maybe as a side deck thing but on ladder you'll run into too many magmar and lyonar for it to help you.
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>>124232519
I have two Arclyte Sentinels too. I like that it can double as removal. VALUE and all that and the body isn't horrible.
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>>124232750
Oh whoops I thought he said couldn't be affected by spells not couldn't be targeted. You're right, I wouldn't run it.
Still, though, completely suppressing opening gambits seems a bit stronger, there's no way around it besides taking out the thing with the effect.
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>>124232578
True. Though I can't think of any decks that rely heavily on opening gambits other than mech, who already gets shat on by crossbones.
Rush prevention though.
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Jaxi is cute. CUTE!
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>>124237628
ur a faget
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>crossbones is now a legit maindeck while laddering thanks to jaxi
kekazor fags on suicide watch
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this furfag lego any good

literally looks like they had something good going and decided to slap an animal head on it at the last second
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>>124240273
OC backer content donut steel.
It's shit, dust it.
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>>124240273
its shit
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>>124240150
>implying my magmar control needs crossbones
Lmao
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>get a good combo off on a songhai, doing lots of damage
>doesn't matter because lantern fox otk
Balanced
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>>124244428
>close game with a songhai, both low health
>he summons a viper
>back off and make some space so I can avoid backstab against the edge of the board
>wall myself off in the process
>scarlet viper hits one of my wraithlings and kills it to make an opening to my general
>inner focus
>okay, pretty clever play
>killing edge
>saberspine seal
>saberspine seal
>it's fine I'll live with 1 health and have my chance to finish him off
>saberspine seal

You're damn right I'm mad.
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>tfw 8 losses streak
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>>124244428
What is the lantern fox otk? Fairly new so Id like to know what setup I should be looking out for
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>>124245218
Probably something like
Lantern fox
Inner fire
a bunch of attack raising cards
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>>124245218
They summon lantern fox and have inner focus, mist dragon seal, and a couple saberspines or killing edges in hand.

Base 3 attack + 1 from mist dragon + 3 from saberspine + 3 from saberspine = 10 damage x2 from celerity.
OTK for anyone under 20 life ANYWHERE on the map because of mist dragon's teleport effect and all for only 8 mana. If you happen to have the third saberspine it becomes an automatic OTK even on a full health general and you can do it all in a single 9 mana turn.
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>>124244428
>be songhai against magman
>have lantern fox
>doesn't have the combo
>still have inner focus, backstab, mystic dragon, saber somewhere in the deck
>have mana vortex in hands
>mulligan the other card, another mana vortex
>give up for the turn, magman use plasma storm
>tfw next turn doesn't draw a single minion

I think the dev is having a laugh at me and half of the time mana vortex are useless piece of shit.
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>>124245218
lantern fox(5 mana), mystic dragon seal(1) for the lantern that spawned far away, saber seal(1) x 2 and that's 25+ damage for 8 mana. Inner fire is basically redundant on lantern fox because their health.

If you want inner fire combo, i think dagger kiri is okay.
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>>124245690
>inner fire on 3 health lantern fox
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>>124245218
Can't stop them unless you have taunt or pray they messed up and missing a piece of the combo. Meh usually songhai run out of cards when i play against them as magmar or they waited the combo to appear but killed before able to pull it off.
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>songhai summons lantern fox early
>plasma storm
>angry emote
>summons another
>same thing happens
>twilight sorceror and get it back
When will they learn
>>
Is it just me or is the amount of cards available pretty low? Are there any plans to add more in some kind of expansion instead of releasing a few each month?
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>Getting shit on by an Abyssian, lost all board control, only way I can win is by topdecking my very last Saberspine Tiger and using Divine Bond and War Surge to swing for game
>Topdeck Saberspine Tiger
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>>124251516
There's two planned expansions with 100+ cards each one of them, supposedly the first one to come is called the "Battle pets".
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>>124252442
>replace the card you don't need
>get the card you need to win the game
Best feel
>>
Your favorite faction is shit
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>>124257406
I know.
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>>124257457
Let me guess
You play
vetruvian
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>>124257543
Yes, but my favorite is Abyss.
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>>124257680
are you me?
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>>124258072
Am I you?
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>>124252475
That's a terrible name.

Are there any more races planned? I peeked at the kickstarter and I saw that apparently vanar was a late inclusion due to hitting a kickstarter goal.

I don't know if new races would add anything to the game, but I'm getting a bit sick of the current matchups.
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>>124259043
>That's a terrible name.
did you expect them to be good at naming things?

i mean their tournaments are named "king of the betas"
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>>124254368
>two cards still in the deck
>know that one of them is the card you need to win
>replace a card
>get the other one
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>Really like Magmar and Vetruvian
>Playing other decks to level them up
>Opponent is Magmar
>Utter
>Fucking
>Torture
Is this what I've been doing to people? Goddamn.
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>>124222605
>Third Wish being an anal devastator doesn't change tourney results.
In which vet always wins?
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>>124240273
it's OK in a world where people play high attack and you play songhai.

Dust
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How do you manage to play songhai? do you need legos like the tusk boar and the mask? Becaue right now my games involve me getting a miracle with the foxes.
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>>124267639
x3 tuskies
x3 masks
x1-3 eclipses
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>>124268250
So another faction that needs at least 5 legos to work properly. Cool.
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>>124270707
All factions do.
>Smegmar
Aggro is shit, memerange wants elders and metas and co, control wants AT LEAST 6+ legos (3 meta 3 elder, but you can do due with 2 elder), this is why people play smegmar control a lot.
>Lyonar
Arclyte 1-2, Spellbinder 1-3 Storm 1-3 and a bunch of epics (inmo 3 for example)
>Vet
3 Ayy 2 wish 1 jax 3 portal 3 fury
>Vanar
Actually can do well without epics and legos, voice is great but gets fucked by tempest
>Abyss
Lmao big abyss
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How do I into building my own deck?
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>>124275881
There's a guide for pauper decks somewhere, all 360 dust
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>I keep getting zen ruis
I mean, I love this guy but having more than 2 of them in a deck seems like a waste since they mostly work together with blindscorch.
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>>124275881
http://forums.duelyst.com/t/dec-update-beginners-guide-to-duelyst/1016
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>>124259043
who knows if they'll add more factions. i think the game has enough variety for the moment though

also nobody knows the name of the expansions
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>>124265686
>top 3 of the last 5 tournaments:
>Bloodborn 4, December 3rd
Songhai
Magmar
Vet
>EET Open 4, Dec 2nd
Vet
Lyonar
Lyonar
>Bloodborn 3, Nov 26
Magmar
Magmar
Songhai
>EET Open 3, Nov 25
Lyonar
Vet
Lyonar
>King of Beta 6, Nov 22
Magmar
Lyonar
Lyonar

Songhai: 2
Vet: 3
Magmar: 4
Lyonar: 6

You people talk our your asses too much. Go craft Zen'ruis.
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>>124281325
lyonar confirmed for class needing the most nerfs
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>>124270814
Vanar without Mountain or Voice is in no way threatening. They'll piss off mid-game decks but need those legends to stay a threat.
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>>124270707
Its pretty easy to get Legos in this game, not sure why you're complaining
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>gain board control because their going for face
>doesnt matter just tempest

AOE NERFED W H E N?
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>>124281801
>have no board control
>win anyway
Songay nerfs when
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>>124260490
>i mean their tournaments are named "king of the betas"
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>>124281961
>the winner is always moot
>>
UI update when?

I want to make a deck and see its w/l forever
>>
just got natural selectioned 3 times back to back to back fuck this shit game
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>>124282368
>do this to some songay
>but also play twilight sorceror so i get it back, basically 5 natural selections
>he spam adds me as a friend and rages
were you that guy too
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>>124282368
>play abyss
>get plasma stormed 3 times back to back with a mana burn thrown in
magmar is fucking gay
spells need more counterplay
>>
>mindwarper
>get plasma storm
>doesn't matter because all his shit is beefy as hell
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>>124282475
>He doesn't just go face
>>
post pauper decks
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>>124282979
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>>124282979
Either I win quick or not at all it's pretty shit but i'm not willing to dust anything so it's the best I can do
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Does that one dragon revive mechaz0r?
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>>124284792
>magmar fag is a jew
of course
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>>124281325
>Vanar and Abyssian have not won a single one
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>>124286056
its because they are so weak to board clears and dispel
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>>124072614
rate my deck
only 35.1k spirit
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>>124287094
Not sure if serious. This deck is shit on so many levels it'd take too long to explain.
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>>124287212
it's literally entirely legendaries for the sake of having legendaries

i mean he has golem vanquisher in there with no golems for fuck sake. of course it's a joke
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>>124286056
Abyssian used to win them all the time before Lady Locke and Sarlac got nerfed back to back.

Vanar's actually gaining momentum, in my opinion. If that list was expanded to 4th and 5th place you'd see a few there. People have undervalued Mountain for way too long and Fenrir is probably the strongest 3-drop in the whole game. Hailstone is also insanely good against control decks.
>>
Can't make a viable nospell deck, this game is shit
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>>124288560
no creatures deck when?
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>>124288109
Vanar control W H E N
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>>124288680
You might be able to do it with abyssian or vanar if you try hard enough
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>>124288560
>he wants spell-less Aggro aka pleb city aka i can't think so I'll vomit creatures aka im retarded to be a viable strategy
Kill yourself
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>>124289119
>vanar faction description
>this faction has the best minion removal in the game!
>mfw magmar exists
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>>124289324
Is there anything vanar is good at besides being the worst faction in the game
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>>124289780
Burning enemy legendaries with hailstone prison.
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>>124281325
>tfw abyssian & vanar player at heart
>still play mag and lyonar because efficiency
>sometimes play abyss to indulge myself
>get rekt by magmar and lyonar

is there any worse feeling?
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>>124289119
The problem with Vanar control is that they lack efficient ways to deal with smaller threats. Yes, hailstone (and Aspect of the Fox as well) is insane when it comes to dealing with big creatures but if your control deck can't handle aggro MUs then it's destined for failure.

Flash Freeze sucks; Aspect of the Fox doesn't deal with weenies; Hailstone is hardly efficient against value 2-drops and meta 4-drops are opening gambits anyways; Chromatic Cold would work if Vanar had Star's Fury to threaten horizontal setups but until then it's too unreliable; Avalanche is actually amazing but, again, unreliable, Aspect is way too slow to deal with aggro.

Cryogenesis is actually pretty good but only single target and overkill for a lot of early-game targets. Deals well with 4-drops though.
Glacial Elemental is also good but you need either for him to survive a turn, or for your general to survive long enough to have the mana to spam shit out to deal with boards.
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>That's a nice 6 drop you have there. Here, take it back into your hand or burn it while I pay 2 mana for that. x3
>Well since you don't want to have it in your hand I'll just transform it into a useless 3/3 for 1 mana. x3
Daily reminder that Vanar is secretly OP.
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>>124289186
Meant to reply to
>>124288560
>>
>CAN'T CHROMATIC COLD VERTICALLY

I FUCKING HATE THIS CLASS
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>>124292475
should've played vetruvian like me
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Fuck vanar
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>>124293529
Get pushed by the doge son
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>>124285050
No, it doesn't revive tokens.
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>>124295656
what exactly is a token?
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>>124295712
A minion that is not actually a crafteable card.
Things like wraithlings, transformations, mechaz0r, eggs, walls, etc.
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>summon obelysk
>pushed into a shit spot in the corner of the map
>summon obelysk
>dispelled
>summon obelysk
>dispelled
>summon obelysk
>dispelled
>summon obelysk
>manaburned

holy FUCK
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>>124296089
You got a backup plan for that dervish deck? I do.

Khymera, but first time I got to use it though it gets dispelled. then I sent Oserix
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>>124296395
I made a dervish deck since I have no spirit and none of those legos
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What can I use to anti-dispel my units?
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>>124296089
>guy summons a portal guardian and two obeylsks
>plasma storm
>summons more
>plasma storm
Damn its good to be a gangster
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>>124297110
nothing
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>>124298965
seriously?
fucking retarded game
dropped
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>>124299494
You can use some niche shit to protect from dispel spells except magmar's bc it targets the tile. That wouldn't help against minion dispels from Lightbender and shrouds.
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>ranged can counter attack ranged
>blast cant counter attack blast

Why
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>>124300636
>Ranged can only hit 1 minion/general
>Blast can hit ALL and ONLY enemy minions/general on a line

It's called balance you filthy vetkek.
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>>124300636
>vanar walls can have attack and retaliate

>vet obelysk CANT gain attack and CANT retaliate
Why
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>>124303836
Because walls don't do anything, Obelysks are presences on the board that spawn minions each turn and need to be played around.
You don't need to play around Vanar walls so much as just walk around them.
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>>124303836
Walls don't shit out dervishes
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>>124296572
lol a dervish deck, because why not make it easier for magmar to win?

every obelysk you have can be targeted by natural selection, rendered useless by mana burn, and wiped out with plasma storm

it lets them throw elucidator or makantor warbeast out for a free hit and keep their full hp, and it gives them something to frenzy without getting counter attacked

if anything, playing obelysks is just helping them, and god help you if you're stupid enough to use windstorms

and that 3 drop 3/3 dervish with the only redeemable feature being that it can't be targeted by spells? doesn't fucking matter because its within plasma storm range and can be hit by mana burn anyway

i want them to work too, but it's just not happening right now. there's a reason people say vet is p2w- because without their legendaries they're pretty fucking awful and have no real synergy
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>>124305417
I agree with everything you said except
>they have no real synergy
Their most synergistic strategy getting shit on by an overpowered faction isn't "no real synergy".
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>>124290529
More effects that activate when on their starting side would be nice.
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>>124290208
being the songhai
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>>124305728
does the synergy really matter in the end, though?

90% of the time you're better off swapping the shit with synergy out for things that are just outright good

i mean are you going to put ethereal obelysks and sand howlers in over something else? are you ever going to use windstorms? even orb weavers seem to be regarded as a weak choice, although i'm alright with them. but, at the end of the day, it's less about the dervish synergy, and more the fact i get 2 minions for one towards PG's attack

dune caster could be cool i guess, but i already have pyros, primus fist, and healing mystics as obvious 2 drop choices, and now we've got jaxi as another

stars fury exists, but it wouldn't matter whether they were classified as dervishes or not, it's going in every deck

it'd be great if you could make use of everything together, but alone they're all too weak. dispels and board wipes are way too prevalent to get any real mileage out of dicking around with dervishes
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>2 Staves, 2 Ankhs, 3 Aurora's Tears in a SF+TW+Ayylmao deck
Y/N? I feel like ankh alone scares the shit out of people who try to conga line against SF.
Also considering crafting Paddo just for shits.
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>>124312936
should be good, as long as the rest of your deck is hard-to-remove low drops and removal/dispels out the ass to cripple their early game
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>>124313279
Every single minion apart from heals is dispel-worthy, but most can't trade/die to lolmana burn.
I'm so sick of fagmars I feel like golems could actually work.
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>>124313398
as long as you can keep them busy long enough to get ankh+scepter, bad trades are fine
dogs are obligatory for obvious reasons
golems could work if you have several of the provoke lego
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>>124311543
I'm not arguing any of that. Dervish decks are shit right now, it's the truth.
I was just saying that there's no truth at all to the statement that Dervish decks have no synergy.
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>>124314194
they could turn obelysks and walls into something that isnt a minion, like a construct so you cant just wipe them with AOE
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>>124314580
Or make dispelling them not stop the spawn of Dervishes since it's sort of innate and they're already so vulnerable to every other kind of removal.
Or at least make dispelling them take them off the field so they're not clogging up the board. Fuck that shit for real.
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>>124314781
>Or make dispelling them not stop the spawn of Dervishes

Are you retarded
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>>124314781
>Or make dispelling them not stop the spawn of Dervishes
That defeats the point of dispelling them in the first place.
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>>124315395
No shit, the idea would be to make dispelling them not an option since you can literally just walk up and smack them dead and suffer no damage.
You could still repulsor beast them, you could still throw damage spells at them, you could still plasma storm them. You could still throw big creatures at them. You could still walk away from them.

Would it make them too strong? Probably a little, but it would at least take them out of the shitty hole they're in right now.
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>>124315395
two of three obelysks have additional effects that could be dispelled, so not entirely no

that said, the fact that they become worthless roadblocks and sometimes even end up being beneficial to your opponent once they're dispelled is pretty retarded
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>>124315639
>>124315792
Yeah it'd be nice if they weren't so damn vulnerable, especially since you have to put them in harm's way to get the most out of them in the first place.
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What's the best faction for a Golem deck?
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>>124316871
Lyonar for the sick Divine Bond + Brightmoss Golem synergy.
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i forgot metamorphosis lasts 2 turns

holy shit that's gay
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>>124318270
fair and balanced :^)
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2v2 mode with a bigger board WHEN
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>>124321370
planned, but no release date yet
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yuris pls go
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>>124322936
1v1 me you little slut
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Meanwhile in Silver
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>>124288560
Say no more senpai
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I just got a Soul Grimwar from an orb. Do I disenchant it or is it good enough to keep?
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>>124329375
Soul Grimwar is shit
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>open twin fang and add it to my magmar rush
>people actually think addy claws are better than this card
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add me i need some cool friends

Steelydan
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>>124331980
>people play magmar rush
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you uh

you ok, kohavi?
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>>124179570
did you beat him
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Neutral spells when?
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>>124340559

shut up you dirty songhai
>>
ALL
FAGMAR
PLAYERS
SHOULD
UNINSTALL
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>>124340962
I..what?
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>>124341029
>he isn't glorious Magmar
Lmao im loving all the rage im getting taking my S rank control deck back up through gold and diamond
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>>124341484
>rage
I just concede

I've transcended rage
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>>124341796
this

my deck is basically a coin toss vs magmar and their bullshit spells

no it's not mechazor
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>>124342096
>>124341796
Thanks for making my ascension easier. I always feel bad dragging games out to 20 minutes only to win
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>>124342491
oh many my jimmies are SO rustled

you're just so good at making me angry UGH i can hardly contain all this mad wow
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>Launch failed
>Close launcher and try to reopen it
>Launcher won't open
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>>124342816
It's okay myfam just breathe and relax. You'll get to silver some day l m a o
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>>124343275
Was having the same issue. Closing what seemed to be an extra duelyst launcher task that was running seemed to fix it.
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>>124343608
It eventually opened eventually and now it's just updating, so there it is I guess.
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>dark transformation kills fenrir
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>>124344273
Vanar gets shit on by everything: news at 10
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>>124344273
It also kills Draugar Lord and Slithar Elder completely

Get fucked
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>>124344273
>Dark Transformation on Silithar Elder
I don't play Abyssian but I imagine that must feel amazing.
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>>124344579
>spends 5 mana
>probably can't kill the egg after
L m a o wasted turn
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>>124343705
>>124343608
>Update completed
>Launch fails again
>Close launcher
>Won't open, end extra task, shit still won't open
What in the hell
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>vetkek summon an obeylsk
>mana burn it
>he hangs out near it
>makantor warbeast for a F R E E AOE attack on all his stuff
Magmar is literally perfect
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magmar is the equivalent of being a minority in america

you get a free ride to the top
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>>124346050
If that minority is jewish yeah
>implying any other minority in America gets free rides
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>tfw magmar player
Feels good, stay mad retards
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>>124346050
>>124346112
keep your /pol/ out of my card games

at least the bara fags are vaguely relevant, why the fuck would i want to hear about your opinions on jews in a thread about an online ccg
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>be vanar against vetkek
>camping on their side of the field because your opponent cant handle the infiltrate
>Nuke all his pyromancers and scarabs
>he adds you and tells you your deck is cancer
> mfw I won
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>>124344273
>5 mana for a 3 mana unit

That's not so bad.
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>>124346512
This tbhfam
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>>124347079
Two 3 mana units. Vanar may be shit but Fenrir is by far the best 3 drop in a vacuum.
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>>124346665
Keep your hurt feelings somewhere else
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This nig in Magmar is nearly as good as Eldar, and in some instances you dont mind having both. I don't have any Kujata because I don't think they're that great but getting this guy out on 5 mana with flash reincarnation seems a big crazy. Best part is when he gets silenced he's still a big ass 5/10 usually.
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>>124344863
>put a 1/1 on the spot where it died
>where's the egg?
>I dont know how to play
>but the other egg

If you cant muster the board to spend 5 mana on an eldar and 1 attack SOMEWHERE on the board to swing at a single egg then maybe you were destined to lose that game from the beginning.

The only better removal for Eldar is like Hailstone back into a full hand.
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>>124348718
Elder is better in every way
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>>124348917
If the magmar player dropped an elder within attack range he's probably dumb
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>>124075789
Duelyst is pretty awful for spectating isn't it? Slow as fuck and it doesn't even have HS's flash or RNG for entertaining plebeians.
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>>124350007
Yeah, duelyst really would have to improve on the wysiwyg concept. It's hard to understand what exactly is happening on the field if you never played it yourself.
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>>124350007
duelyst isnt slow compared to every board/card game ive played. This is mostly because you can go for face and not worry if your opponent starts building a creature advantage because you can just board clear it if it becomes a problem.

Im kind of disappointed scolls died, it was much more tactical than this game
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>>124348970
>enemy has 6 attack minion
>rip

It's for different circumstances. You usually dont put an Eldar in the nuts of your opponent, but Khymera can just put shoved in their face and they have to deal with it. It already spawned something, anything from a 0/2 Pado (worst case) to like a 4/8 provoke (probably best).

Always assume a flash reincarnation.
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>>124351390
You have to have 6 mana to flash reincarnate a khymera which means it comes out a full turn later than the elder. The elder will have already replicated under ideal circumstances. It's just flat out better.
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>>124351390
It can spawn a mechaz0r.

We HS now. Le epic unstable portal esports xd
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>>124351520
A really early Eldar is obviously great and game winning. But would you be willing to keep an Eldar in your opening hand without a flash reincarnate there? You don't always draw him that early because you want your control pieces, and if you just spend your turns doing nothing then even a 5 mana Eldar might not be enough against something like Lyonar that will have flooded the board and just Martyrdom's and cleans up. Not saying a Martyr doesnt work against Khym but it's just a point on not keeping your big shit really early without a great hand to support it.

Control decks also run 3 Eldars, and I think Khym is good enough to put in as well as the Eldars. It's certainly not as good overall as an Eldar, but I think it's the closest at contesting and that is enough to warrant adding it in addition to the Eldar.
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>>124352040
Nobody uses it currently. There are way better creature options in the only factions that would use it: abyssian and magmar. Archon spellbinder is a much better neutral
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>>124352221
Khymera just doesn't justify its spot. What would you take out of the control deck to make room for it? Archon spellbinder would be the only thing I can see but that shuts down so many different deck types. Magmar control mirror cant meta+plasma storm with it out, songhai gets fucked for its otk, it annoys other factions. It's also a 7/9.
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Ayy
Lmao

Maybe he'll consider adding Shrouds in his deck.
>Pull Metamorphosis from my pack immediately after
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>>124353149
lyonars usually run sunbloom x3
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>>124353149
>bronze matches
Yeah I sure love shit stomping guys using golems
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>>124352473
I mean it depends on what you're running honestly. The Magmar control deck, and in fact any deck in this game, is not even close to being set in stone yet. When we both say Magmar control you may be looking at one list, and I might be looking at another. If you show me what list you're talking about then I might look at it and find it true that there is just not room for Khymera
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>>124353404
There isn't a golem on that screen, and true I'm only Silver but I also am fairly new and I'm trying to level up the classes. I just started with Abyssian. The rank isn't much of an excuse though, you should learn very early on that dispels are invaluable.
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>>124353581
3x flash reincarnation
3x mana burn
3x plasma storm
3x earth sphere
2x metamorphosis
2x natural selection

3x young silithar
3x healing mystic
3x emerald rejuvenator
2x twilight sorceror
2x dancing blade
2x spirit harvester
3x silithar elder
2x archon spellbinder
3x makantor warbeast
>>
So what other card or strategy games with multiplayer besides Yugioh and HS do you fags play?
>>
>>124351201
I don't mean the gameplay itself, I mean the animations.

The biggest fuckup that all these potential competitors make is that they put in several seconds of filler animation per turn on average.

People hate waiting for shit to resolve. Even HS which has pretty snappy and efficient animations, one of the main things people complain about are specific instances of slowish animations such as pandas, legos, and deathrattles.
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>>124354758
Cardstone. Although I only really play a few brawl games per week, the rest is my bot farming gold because my autism demands a full card collection.
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>>124354201
I honestly dont think you need that many earth spheres, I'd probably drop one for that. I'd only run a single copy of Khymera though.
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>>124354758
Magic, though less so lately. I like Jund, Junk, and Rock decks so Magmar is a natural fit for me. Also Dredge
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>>124354758
PoxNora, the ultimate turn base strategy game tcg hybrid.
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>>124355851
but pox nora is dead anon
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>>124356393
It's been stagnant, yeah. 50-300 players at any given time.
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>be abyss
>3 songays in a row
>lantern fox HUUUR DUUR
>MASK OF SHADOWS HUUUR DUUR
>get my shit otk'd from 25 HP on turn 6 while having my back to a wall because i couldn't fucking deal with 2 foxes

songhai is such fucking bullshit, they're the most unfun class the play against after magmar
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>>124358963
songhai is definitely the least engaging to play against. it's not fun when you know they don't have to worry about positioning at all

i kinda liked playing against them in lower level matches and even thought about picking them up, but after seeing how they play at a higher level, it's just too gross

they should be more about backstab and movement, not this out of hand combo that you can't protect yourself from bullshit

i mean i don't necessarily think they're overpowered, that title goes to magmar. but at least with magmar i feel like there's some little tiny bit of strategy going on in their head
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>>124359789
Backstab songhai is even gayer imo. Let's just saberspine seal my general 3x and one shot you with mask of shadows. Songhai is just plain dumb
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Thinking about dusting this, he hasn't been useful at all and I don't really have much desire to play Abyssian after getting it to 11.
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>>124360016
>Has great looks and animations
>useless though
Those feels
Name your favorite card that sucks
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>>124360086
All vanar walls
you think there would be skilled wall plays but their actually all trash
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>>124360086
I really like Blood Siren. It's nifty for comboing in deathwatch decks but other than that it's honestly pretty shit. Abyssal Crawler has more useful stats for 1 less mana.
>>
I AM ANGRY
ANGRY ABOUT TEMPEST
>>
I'm considering just removing my elementals from my deck now that jaxi is out. I mean, it's already pretty slow unless you just have those billions of snowchasers ready and it's still shit board control since lolrandom, might as well give it up completely and hope for jaxi onto razorback
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Is this any good? I don't play songhai and whenever I see him come down he gets a swift fox aspect. Was thinking of switching though.
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>>124364664
songhai has better finishers that dont take a turn of setup and get dispelled

That being said, if they nerf songhai's ability to play without anything on board he might become playable
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>>124364650
It's the best board control that we have anon. Without it we are fucked against aggro and swarms.
And why the fuck VoW doesn't proc from walls? That wouldn't be op at all, god dammit. Give us something with power for once.
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>>124367725
But I am the swarm
I'm trying a lot of stuff out at the moment, like azurehorn shamans to not get instaraped by tempest and similar aoe bullshit
Lyonar counters us so hard goddamn
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>>124338708
I couldn't stop him from planting his face in front of my starting wall and preventing SF. It wasn't a one-sided game though.
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what's with all the Zen'Rui recently

I have enough of a problem with people simply dispelling my obelysks, now they're fucking stealing them too?
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>>124373554

I think it's the abundance of jaxis
>>
>start winning against songay
>game suddenly lags for 2 decisive turns
>lose my turn
>he wins
How convenient.
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>>124374709
Mana burn never felt so sweet
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>>124376310
One less dispel for important minions.
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>>124373554
Netdeckers seeing lyonar win with 3x Zen'rui in-tournament to steal Portal Guardians thinking it's the ladder thing to do
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>>124373554
I love them. At first sight they look shitty, but they keep saving my butt, their body is decent and they are amazing combined with ebin blindscorch. Stealing an elder or an aymara with a flautist gives me boners every time.
I could change them for jaxes if I had them and third wish, but I'm not that rich and I was dumb enough to invest my spirit in vanar.
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>>124380771
Why the fuck weren't there any balance changes this season? Wtf are the devs doing?
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>>124380843
Balance
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>>124381920
>Vetshitter crying
Crimea a river son
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>>124381981
>crying
You blind son?
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>>124378941
Silithar Elders are most likely female. Keep in mind that Magmar are reptiles so it's not like they would strut around with visible breasts.
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>>124382439
>He doesn't know

Mpreg
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>>124372071
I thought about trying our chaos elemental. It's 4/4 so it survives to both AOE, but it costs 3. It's still better than running that shitty bear though, but I just can't try him because lel no dust..
Also, that dust guy neutral that spams 3 copies of himself looks amazing with both razorback and VoW. Problem is, he costs 5 so it's very costly for vanar and he's 3/4 I think, so plasma storm will happen.
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>>124382471
Nah, I'll stick to lizard cloaca

>>124383505
>Borean Bear
Fuck that card is terrible. Vespyr synergy isn't even an innately bad idea, Vespyrs are just garbage.
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>>124384143
>Anime
>Is wrong
just play abyshit son
>>
>>124384143
>Burly
>Not tits
>Manly chest
>Manly body in general
>M-muh cloaca
It's still gay if he has a cunt anon.
>>
>spirit harvester deals 2 damage in AOE in the turn that it's played
MAGMAR DOES IT AGAIN
Why is this allowed? Why not "at the beginning of your turn"? And it's also a 5/5 body, pulling out mini tempest after mini tempest because fuck you.
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>>124383505
Ash Mephit is bad for the same reasons you want to run Chaos Elemental.
Tempest and Plasma Storm fuck it up. It's 5 mana. It's unreliable. Even in the best case with a razor back it's still just 3 4/3s for 9 mana. Not terribly threatening of even game-winning damage, especially considering how unreliable it is.
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>>124385429
>Metamorph
>Flash
>Spirit Harvester
Metamorph is seriously the most fair card I've ever seen.
>>
someone give me a referral
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>>124386673
open beta
u dont need one
>>
>all these babbies complaining about magmar
l m a o
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>>124386673
Just go on the duelyst section of twitch, pretty much every stream has a referal code.

>>124386851
You get 100g for creating an account with referal code.
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>>124386958
redditpals
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>>124364358
drop jaxi outside of melee range whenever you expect tempest and pray they buff SD to 4 mana.
>>
We should be getting a balance patch this week no?
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>>124384250
But Miyabi is video games and Magmar and Vet are the most fun factions.

>>124384348
Does this mean that liking traps is in fact, not gay?
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>>124387915
>It's gay if
1. He's a man (Cboy is gay)
2. Has a dick (Traps and futa, are hence, gay)
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>>124388058
but thats wrong since feminine penises arent gay
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What if Metamorphosis cost 9 mana and didn't wear off?
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Reminder
>Fagmar
100% Homo players
>Vet
Asexual tumblr degenerate
>Abyss
Into snuff and lolicon
>Vanar
Into animal husbandry and rape
>Lyonar
100% hetero /pol//a//k/ faction
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>>124389174
what if plasma storm cost 7 and said destroy all creatures
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having fun in silver with this deck. I'll eventually have enough spirit to make a legendary card, should I do spiral or heaven's?
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>>124389393
What about Songay
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>>124392376
We don't talk about songay.
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>>124391812
Tusk
Don't even think about it. Best lego in songhai by a mile, useful in every single type of songhai deck. Even your arcanyst deck would benefit from it since you could have a quick early clear or another phoenix fire
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>>124392376
They are supreme gentleman with a nihilistic humor. They also fap to every single type of hentai out there like the smart connoisseur that they are
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So if your general dies with artifacts equipped and you have Z'ir on the board, do the artifacts get transferred to Z'ir?
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Who is hosting the king of betas tournament? The casters are absolutely garbage.
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>>124396881
>see this post
>decide to watch the stream
>Vet vs Vet
wew lad, how fun.
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>>124399619
This guy's deck is total trash. Who the fuck runs Orb Weaver?
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>>124400339
Anyone is allowed to compete
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I don't understand people who spend their entire turn returning the board to neutral when you just have two or so creatures up.
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>>124406393
either they think they can establish board control faster/protect it better, or they think they're playing some kind of weird tower defense game
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Bump for e sports
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Daily reminder to:
>kill all wraithlings
>have hard removal against Lyonar by turn 5 or earlier if they can grab a mana orb
>block Vanar from entering your half of the field at all
>not play anything 5+ mana against Vanar
>go face against magmar and kill them before they outskill you with their balanced cards
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>>124411990
inb4 this thread starts jumping on the nerf songhai bandwagon
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What's with all the songhai mention?
Did Songhai make it to finals or something?
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>>124413698
it wouldnt matter even if they did, they are the most cancerous faction in terms of design.
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>>124413698
They just won the last major tournament
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>>124413698
>
>>124413954
Doesnt matter, wins against songhai are entirely based on their draw
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Wow that was satisfying to watch.
based zeze
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>>124415116
Doesn't this apply to almost every faction?
>Lyonar drawing their aoe or divine bond combo
>Magmar drawing archons and elders
>Vetruvian drawing sf + TW plus aymaras
>Vanar drawing lmao jk
>Abyss drawing all their revenants

It's a fucking card game, of course it's about drawing your cards you fucking retard.
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>>124415335
Stream link pls
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Out skilled
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>>124416134
FUCKING LOL
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>>124416059
duelysttournaments on twitch
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>>124416014
Fuck off mongoloid, theres counterplay with other factions. Songhai is all face all the time. Either they draw enough damage or they dont. Thats it.
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>meta is spamming heals to get out of otk range and otk
nice game
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>>124418906
>meta involves paying to construct either Magmar control or vetruvian to have a chance at s rank
lolbabs?
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r8 dick
I'm gonna craft a lego, should I go for another reaver or revenant?
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>>124420614
Revenant>>>>>>>>Reaver
Revenant is fucking disgusting
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>>124416423
Damn I didn't realize just how far the poverty goes. We need a spectator mode and some love. I've gotten like five people into it recently though so that helps. Baby steps.
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>songhai controlling the board against lolonar
>doesnt matter just tempest
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>>124421021
not gonna dust reaver, at least until full deck. it's won me almost all the games where i could ritual and have it by turn 2 because nobody has enough removal to get rid of both it and the lings by then (fuck fagmar). revenant seems like a more focused
>fuck YOOOOOOOOOOOOU
drop as opposed to guaranteed reaver's guaranteed board control
higher ranks run more wipes but reaver seems like it can brute force shitters harder
>>124421150
>songhai
>giving the slightest hint of a fuck about controlling the board beyond backstab positioning
nigger you what
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>>124421823
>guaranteed reaver's guaranteed
hurr
>>
>playing mirror match
>opponent wins
>last turn, has the damage on board but just keeps summoning and buffing to show off
>spams emotes
>I emote "zzz"
>requeue
>matched against the same guy
>says well played in response to my gl hf
>wreck him

Do people who try and show off on the last turn just not know how deck based games work or what?

Anyways what was your most satisfying moment in a match so far /dyg/
>>
>>124423156
Showing off to a guy while I had lethal on the board. He was spaming the zzz emote, lol
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>>124423156
Filled like 80% of the board with wraithlings in an abyss mirror, we both had bloodmoons out and I topdecked another one + breath. It was glorious.
>>
>>124423156
Pretty much the same thing
I had a bad opening hand, mulled it into another bad opening hand. Shit draws. Still had a close game where the guy bm'd me towards the end. Requeued straight into him and he bmd me again until i shat on him
>>
>>124423156
This >>124252442
>>
>Storm kage is shit

Appareantly not so much in this matchup.
>>
>>124427194
it's just a slow card in a faction where most decks are meant to be fast.
>>
>>124427194
Whether or not a card is good depends on what other cards you have access to.
Eg. Dioltas is good on paper, but all the factions that consider running her have better alternatives. Songhai has 7-mana combos that are faster and lethal out of hand. Kage just doesn't compare.
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>>124072614
why do i only have 1 quest
>>
>>124194773
>people talking about how regalia is bad
>>
>>124427194
What's the matchup?
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>>124429598
>mfw lyonarfags have 3 regalias
feels good countering 2700 spirit for 40
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>lyonars cant count for lethal
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>>124430147
>expecting the most braindead faction to count
3 regalias equipped at one point.
What a game.
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>>124430301
>>124429998
Did someone seriously equip 3 Regalias at once in a tournament setting against Songhai no less? What in the fuck for?
>>
>>124431132
well it is a good idea if they arent running artifact destruction
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>>124431435
>in tourney
>not expecting opponents to have at least one response card
>not preparing at least one response to everything
you can only run powerful-but-easily-countered shit in ladder, and even then not past a certain point
>>
>>124431132
Who runs that shit? Except regalia and some random vets keking away with their blasts, no one plays with artifacts.
>>
>>124431435
Why the hell wouldn't they be? Especially given how prevalent Lyonar and Vetruvian are?
>>
>>124431905
Lyonar, Vet and Songhai all have strong artifacts
Abyss can cheese with Grimwar
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When are they nerfing this so I can make bank
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>everyone runs 3x eph 3x rep 3x mystic 3x rejuv

nice game balance retards
>>
>>124432869
>3x rep
maybe in gold

>x3 eph
Maybe in Vanar?
>>
>lyonar 2nd turn arclytes
HERE WE GO
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>songhai
>puts down saberspine tiger
>Inner Fire on it straight away without moving
>concedes

I don't understand
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>opponent congo lines to avoid star's fury
>i don't even draw one for the first 5 turns
>draw blast ankh and blow up his congo line
>he still tries to congo line, but leaves an important creature out
>repulsor beast him back in the line and blast them again
>now he desperately tries to separate all his minions
>draw star's fury
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN
>>
>summon manaforger
>darkfire sacrifice and other 0 cost spells don't give me 1 mana
this game is shit
>>
>>124437753
>He plays arcanyst abyssian
>He plays abyssian
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>>124437860
>putting 1 arcanyst card in your deck means its an arcanyst deck
retard
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>>124437860
>playing manaforger means he's playing arcanyst
How new
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>draft 5 dancing blades 2 deathblighter 3 occulus
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mana burn needs to be "around enemy general"
>>
people that need to use their whole 90 seconds
should definitely kill themselves
>>
>>124441724
walker needs to be 3/2
silithars need to be 2/2, 4/3 and 6/6 respectively
metamorphosis needs to end at beginning of opponent's turn
rebirth should spawn an egg that hatches into the monster instead of dealing 2 damage
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>>124442442
>complaining about walker
>>
best gauntlet race for new players?

Have lyonar/abyss/magmar choice
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>>124441724
Do you play Mechazor? Not trying to insult you, I'm genuinely curious.
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bets? 2nd time
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>>124443291

9/3
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>>124443959
I hate gauntlet
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>>124442840

Lyonar Magmar and Vanar
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>>124443008
lyonar
got lucky with 2 aegis barriers
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>>124445304
>3 losses in 14 minutes
Amazing
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>tfw he doesnt miss lethal on you
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>tfw they will never learn
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wew lads stop being dead and post shit mememar and lolonar players
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>>124450127
>tfw no good memes
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>>124452981
>>
>>124454409
that's pretty dank
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d e d
e d e
d e d
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>>124457536
we're just all playing....amirite
>>
Game is so dead. Wasn't Steam release sometime in December?
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>>124458346
no steam release yet
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>fighting abyssian mechazor
>he summons mechazor with a good board state
>metamorphosis and kill all of his creatures
>game spirals out of control for him soon after
damn it feels good to be a magmar
>>
>>124458346
>game is dead
>takes literally 2 seconds to get matched up with someone at 1am EST

what is your definition of dead, exactly
>>
>>124460780
live game
ded thred
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>>124461696
Yeah, the playerbase isn't big enough so the thread doesn't get spammed with stupid questions or memes.
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>>124458260
I actually am, I just got done with a very skillful Vetruvian mirror.
>>
Top 5 last tournament was all songhai
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>>124463062
That's because magmar is op.
>>
>>124463845
magmar is the most op, considering the overall mechanics of the game

the problem is, songhai is playing an entirely different game, where the board doesn't matter, and you win as long as you draw the right cards, and lose if you don't
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>>124465467
Welcome to combo decks, damn
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>>124466389
Still kind of silly that you can be bursted for full health from hand without any kind of counterplay.
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>>124467669
Like I said, welcome to combo decks. The issue though is that unlike in Magic and YGO, in both Duelyst and Hearthstone there aren't any ways to really interact with the opponent on their turn so you just have to be preventative instead of reactive.
>>
>>124463062
So how does a tournament in a game where certain races and decks counter other decks work, anyway?
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>>124468918
Every player can only bring one deck.
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>>124468903
You can't really proactively prevent Lantern Fox coming out and getting inner focus > mist dragon > saberspine x3.
It gets a turn instantly and can teleport to any space on the board.
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>>124470982
>>124470982
>>124470982
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