Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

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soon my opinions will be valid!

3rd for futa threads, I guess
neat

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>>124057780

Keep it up, she's worth it.

xth for lili is trash

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Continuing my series called "QM woes".

Which team do you think has better hero composition? Which team do you think won the match?

>>124059223

I'm gonna say Red team because they have way more assists together as a team.

And honestly, neither comp seems good.

>>124057629
I want Sonya to fug me

>>124060272
she has enough cock to go around

Bnet down for anyone else?

>>124060272
Bitch needs a damage nerf.

>>124061071
Yeah, can't log in to B.net. Got booted after a game ended and haven't been able to log back on since. It happened to a lot of people, if not everyone, I think.

Their servers have been taking a real beating lately.

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>tfw we will never get Cairne because his place was taken by a meme hero

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>>124057629

C9 is fighting for his life agaisn't Chinamen RIGHT NOW on Khaldor's stream

twitch dot tv/Khaldor

If they lose, bye bye C9. Nothing but hacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GpjsaI4H04
Also, CENARIUS FUCKING SUCK deal with it.

>nova gets played at dreamhack
>suddenly jumps at most pro/streamer tierlist from Tier 4 to Tier 2
Any /v/ approved tierlist?

>>124062917

Why would ANYONE fucking trust this site over people that you know are AT LEAST decent at the game?

>>124062917
senjinn here

Tier 1:
Lili, Sonya, Chen, TLV, Gazlowe, Illidan, Nova

Tier 2:
Jaina, Uther, Tyrande, ETC, Muradin

Tier 3 & Tier 4:
The rest

>>124063554
because we are all at least diamond?
:^)

>>124064147
Truly, a list worthy of /hotsg/

>No don't pick Malf, Artanis is a beast with single target healer like Morales or Uther
>Picks Uther
>Spends the first half of the game farming waves (farming?)
>Spends the second half healing Diablo who, albeit does need heals, but doesn't need heals just to stay alive and deal a shitload of damage.
>Get 3 heals and a Divine in 25 minutes

Seriously, are people actually this fucking ignorant to hero choices? It's like they don't understand 90% of the heroes in the game.

Like half the reason pro's pick Uther is because it enables Melee assassins like Kerrigan to be played when they normally wouldn't. Heroes like Muradin and Diablo need heals, but they're more there to soak damage as their health pools are far greater than Artanis' is.

On the flipside, Artanis is probably the highest damage dealing warrior in the game and whilst recieving heals can actually potentially outtank even the biggest tanks due to the nature of his shield recharge.


TLDR HEAL ARTANIS, YOUR LIFE WILL BE EASIER.

>>124064226
>I'm a special snowflake who deserves the healers attention 100% of the time

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Where's Grom?

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Hey hotsg

Is there anything after Rank 1 or is it just play the game now? Also how can you not get rank 1 super fast you get like 300 points from every single win and lose 100 from a loss? Is there something I'm unaware off or

>>124057780
Thats a neat win rate. Keep it up anon! Maybe we'll play in some weeks

>get "play 3 games as support" two days in a row
why is this allowed

>>124064752
>More Orcs
Metzen pls go

>>124066220
This game has more protoss than it has orcs

>>124064147
lili posters are t1 at sending gifts
and at posting

who will be the new shit tier heroes once Gazlowe and Tychus get their buffs?

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>>124057629

IT FUCKING STARTED

http://www twitch tv/Khaldor

C9 VS CHINAMEN GET THE FUCK IN HERE.

>>124066774
Cho'gall already is worse than those two

>>124066774
several heroes are beneath both of them

QM should have leagues so I can at least be Rank 1 at something ;_;

>>124067024
Just play hero league

Also are you sure you want the game to acknowledge ur bronzeness?

>>124066774
Cho'Gall, Murky, Zeratul

>>124066802
>Khaldor
fuck that

>>124065889
Only two days? Living the good life there.

>>124066802
I'm at work though, fugg

>>124065889
>>124067259
>They don't play Tyrande

Did the scaling changes really fix Thrall?

This might sound weird but how do I Kael?
I am always at 20k lower hero damage than other Kaels with the normal bomb build and dont really understand why.

>>124064904
You can get to rank 5 in 20 games because of placement matches.

>>124067832
Yeah, he's a solid pick now.

>>124064904
>Is there something I'm unaware off or

You only get 300 points per win if your MMR is higher than your rank. It means the system believes you belong higher than you are. The people that are stuck at notrank1 only get like 100 points for an even win.

>>124068303
Ok so rank 5 is maximum you can get from placement games? I had 80% winrate there and placed rank 6. But now I'm rank 1 and now I'll prob just go back to doing dailes every 3 days

>>124068231
D > W > W
Preferably on whoever is most central to a group.
E > Q is a bonus

>>124068420
fuck man that must be hell. Glad I'm never going to experience it.

Tho there's still bad teammates at rank 1. But generally people combo a lot better

>>124064147
>dick man says that my favourite hero is tier 1 worthy
cute

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Optimal team comp?

>ETC
>Uther
>Tyrande
>Kael'thas
>Valla

>>124068614
Muradin over ETC

>>124068697
Mosh Pit > single target stun

>>124068697
I'd say they're pretty equal, if only because the ETC + Uther combo is pretty huge.

>>124068614
What can defeat this combo?

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What's ur most played /hotsg/?

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>c9 playing Rehgar
based

>china is weeping

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>>124069304
>Speed metal ETC

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>China mad enough to shut down stream

>>124069089
Getting first pick.

>>124069124
Murky Falstad Valla

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>>124069124

>>124069656
>tier shitters

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>>124069124

Am I doing it right? Can't wait for my gf Valeera and Tracer to be added to the game.

>>124069941
>Gazlowe mains

>enter qm queue
>alt-tab while I wait for the sound of the game starting
>kind of forget about it
>10 minutes later
>WHOOOOSSHH
>oh shit I forgot I was queued
>loading screen, everyone but me is around level 10 or lower than rank 30
>both teams literally retarded, my team has a bunch of non english speakers
not a good start for the day

haven't played in months

Is Cho'Gal a meme hero?

>>124070536
Yep.

>>124070536
Cho is a meme ogre.
Gall is a meme tumor.
Hero is too strong a word.

>>124070056
>Nova most played
Shitter detected.
Rank 1 without contributing to a game ever

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>>124071080

But anon, I never play her on HL. Can't wait for her buffs, I miss my bae on ranked.

I'll buy her Novazon skin tomorrow.

ded gam lol

Im sad that the Headless Horseman is a boss on ToD

He could have been an amazing hero.

More unique than "Fan service hero #345123" or "Gimmicky OC to add more archetype #142"

>>124071918

Not really.

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>>124071918
I agree, we need more pandas like chen

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>>124069124

>>124072951
Who would want that faggot cenarius over his daughters?

>morales on my team
>they keep getting dived and dying
>why don't you peel me tank!
you're playing the worst support in the game, I'm not going to play around that
>we win
>monk has more damage, more healing than morales
morales useless, confirmed

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>>124073517
I dont know senpai

>>124073439
top tier waifus anon.

>>124073685
>Tank doesn't peel.

Sounds like you were way more useless than her.

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>>124069124

>>124074179
>morales doesn't heal you
>asks for peel
NO HEAL, NO PEEL

>>124074057
Thanks anon

>>124075637
You'll be bronze forever with that attitude

Any tips on Tyrande?

>>124075890
>80% win rate
>bronze
morales is bad, stop denying

>>124075906
use hunters mark between using your E and it hitting the enemy

Don't pick starfall

Pick hunter's swiftness at 20

Use your owl to interupt channeled objectives like tributes or dragon knight.

>>124076021
AI matches doesn't count.

>>124076021
The reason she is bad is because teams can dive her and it's hard for her to get away. If no one can get to her she's one of the best supports in the game because of how quickly she can heal.

So you not peeling for her is one of the reasons she's bad. There is a reason why she is picked competitively cause they actually protect her.

So in all your the reason your team lost. Good job.

>>124076305
we didn't lose though

>>124076419
Then why are you complaining about getting carried by someone that knows how to play the game?

>>124076601
just showing people how bad morales is

>>124076679
But anon you're the only constant

>>124076807
yeah, that's why I always win_

>play HL
>losing streak
>disconnect for a split second in a game, in it again right away. Was 15seconds at best
>get rank 2
>you recently disconnected, play a qm game without disconnecting
>do so
>eternal queue until I finally get into a game
>everyone is shit
>30minutes infernal shrines game
>towards the end i disconnect for a split second again
>you're a disconnecter, play a disconnect game without disconnecting :^)
Ebin.

>>124076679
By carrying your stupid ass?

>>124075906
- If you are alone in a lane with minions, and need health, heal a minion so you aren't wasting your heal
- Don't go into every game with a set build in mind, Tyrande is the most flexible character in the game, build to compliment your team if you need more healing, damage, utility try to build towards that. (although most of the time you will want to take shadowstalk and ranger's mark at 1, at 13 if you need the healing overflowing light)
- If there is an important ultimate to stop safe your stun in a team fight for that unless your stun can secure a kill
- Tyrande's stun is one of the easiest skill shots to avoid so try to safe it for when they have no way to avoid it (are cc'd) or when they need to run but you can catch them with it where even if they do avoid it they are going to be caught.
- Tyrande's combo to do decent damage is D > E > W if you get good at landing that you can put a lot of pressure on assassins
- Save your owl for interrupting objectives (BHB is a good map to go pierce since you can stop chest turn ins, you can even go ranger as well at 16), important vision (finding out if the enemy is doing a boss or what camp they are doing) or trying to hit a fleeing enemy that is too far away.
- Lunar Blaze at 7 helps you secure a lot of kills, although if need be you can take other talents at that level (BM works great with shadowstalk especially if you have the level 20 upgrade), or you could even pick up muel if your need it say on temples or haunted mines.

I think though one of the more important things is understanding Tyrande's talents and when to take what, a lot of bad tyrande's will just try to tunnel one build always and end up not being very helpful to their team.

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>>124076864
>morales has the worst stats in the match
>even close to carrying us
morales please leave

>>124064147
Where is Sylvanas?

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>>124076882
>Most flexible.
>Not Kharazim.

>>124077069
>Chen poster doesn't peel.

I wish I was surprised.

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>>124077228
How flexible do you think he is?

>>124077228
He's not, he was actually designed to be more like Tyrande with the trait options at level 1, but he ends up not having much talent diversity. Tyrande has the most viable talent options in the game at pretty much all levels. He fits a damage or healer role, but still Tyrande can mix those as well as go more utility (with mule, team buffing and things like shrink ray. She has a lot of group synergy too.

>>124077590
Nigga the only talent not viable for him is Insight. Every single other talent can be used depending on enemy team and what your team needs. Not only that but he can go damage and still pump out insane healing numbers while 1v1ing most characters in the game. With a really good escape option.

>>124077841
Unless you're black, please don't use that word, fåm.
#BLM

>>124077841
>Iron Fists is viable
pls

What would be your guy's number 1 tip to players new to the game?

>>124078010
don't be a retard

>>124078010
you can see Nova shimmering. If you keep dying to one, open your fucking eyes

>>124078010
Don't respond to teammates negativity, of people are getting mad at you, don't curse back or whatever, ask what you should be doing. Watching streams and YouTube vids of your favorite heroes will help a lot.

>>124078010
In solo queue stick with your team, even if you think/know they are doing something stupid.

>>124064147
TFW masterskin muradin.

>>124077841
You can pick any talent on anyone, doesn't mean it's viable, he is mostly set in the role of a healer. He doesn't really get that much talent diversity, Tyrande has the added benefit of being a strong group synergy hero, as in she buffs your team, he either heals or damages. The reason Tyrande is so good right now is because she is so flexible (as well as the meta being very gank heavy which is something she is great at).

>>124078010
Go to objectives the second they spawn.
Don't fight if your team is down a member.

>>124078010
Show up to objectives and team fights, make sure you are soaking as much lane experience as you can

>>124078243
Or down talent tiers.

>>124078194
>>124077960
It is if your not a solo support. With the dash talents and way of hundred fists he can pump out damage. There's a reason why he was used as a melee assassin in some games at dreamhack.

Name a talent besides Insight that isn't viable. The only one I can think of is lvl 20 and that's only because of how good his upgraded ults are.

The reason Tyrande is so good now isn't because of her flexibility, though it doesn't hurt, it's because of how insane her early roaming is and how good shadowstalk is at lvl 20.

>>124078404
True, but I feel that would matter less for new players. Plus, new players have so much stuff to learn and keep track of I feel they can get by without worrying about talent tiers.

>>124078469
>There's a reason why he was used as a melee assassin in some games at dreamhack.
will this "competitive strats are viable in QM and ranked" meme ever end?

YOU AREN'T IN FUCKING TEMPO STORM OR C9 OR WHOEVER THE FUCK ELSE. YOU AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO TAKE IRON FISTS AND WIN

>senjinn will never post his dick again
why live

>>124078636
If you have another support on the team yes you are. It's the same as any build. You just got to know when you can use it it and when you can't.

>>124078469
>The reason Tyrande is so good now isn't because of her flexibility
It most certainly is, she can damage, heal, go more utility, or a mix. She fits many comps well and has answers talents for the enemy team, combos well with many heroes and

>how good shadowstalk is at lvl 20.
Even at 20 in master the shadowstalk upgrade is only picked 46% of the time, storm shield is 30%, it's not something that makes or breaks her.

With the gank heavy meta she is good as well.

>>124078876
>her upgrade is only picked half the time

>>124078930
If it was something that was insanely better it would be much higher than less than half the time.

I will start my 20 placcement matches today.
How do I ensure that I win all 20 of them and get ranked 5 or lower from the get go?

>>124078876
And so can Kharazim. He can act as a full solo support. A full damage dealer. A mix between the two. An insane tank destroyer. He has talents such as giving vision, cleanse, giving his w the ability to cure debuffs and has a Rez ult.

I'm not saying Tyrande is bad if that's what you think. Just that if you think Kharazim isn't around her level in roles he can fill you are wrong.

Hell another reason Tyrande is so good her trait. She has one if the best traits in the game and that has nothing to do with talent choices.

>>124078998
It's probably not chosen when she's a solo healer because she needs a burst healing and not something that turns your team into the flash.

>tfw wombo comboing with my team at rank 30
>tfw enemy team does the same
>tfw still win because WHAT IS DEAD MAY NEVER DIE

just what is it about Leoric that makes my team magically get their shit together

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Cenarius confirmed for next hero, they tweeted his art

WHY
DID
NONE OF YOU FUCKERS
TELL ME
TASSADAR IS ACTUALLY GOOD??

>>124079982
force wall is probably one of my favourite ults, it's just that if you put one that's slightly out of place someone will start telling you to kill yourself and pick archon

>>124079982
He's been considered amazing since the change to his shields.

>>124079502
>I'm not saying Tyrande is bad if that's what you think. Just that if you think Kharazim isn't around her level in roles he can fill you are wrong.
I'm not saying he isn't flexible, just not as flexible as she is

>Hell another reason Tyrande is so good her trait.
It's a good trait for the current meta, yeah because it's about early game ganking an no hero brings vaulnerability before 16, but if the meta shifts to longer games it becomes less valuable as other characters bring vaulnerability (usually in aoe form) at 16 and it doesn't stack.

>>124079982
He is great, also unkillable after 16.

Tfw laning vs Malfurion and Tassadar as Zag
Tfw no escape and butt too fat
Tfw yelled at by team

>>124073730
I believe that was my post. I'm not disappointed, however.

I like poison mechanics.

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>>124081368
tfw forgot image

>>124081368
ASS
TOO
FAT


... must breed

>>124081368
Tassadar is more annoying than murky

>>124081368
>QM as Zag
>enemy team is Kael'thas, Jaina, Tass, Tyrande, Muradin
>get totally assfucked by AoE all game long
Zag always feels really easily countered when I play her, because QM hates me

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Why the fuck do I keep lagging in this game with this internet speed? It's ridiculous. Never had any trouble with any other game.

>>124081981
Did you set your server preference to your region? I found that helped my latency a lot.

>>124081981
Shit servers.

>>124079982
They should replace the Archon ult to be able to fuse with Zeratul and play like cho'gall for the rest of the match, whatcha think faMily

>>124082613
No.

>>124082613
why don't we fuse you with a guillotine for the rest of your life, whatcha think

So bored of the same comps every game.

At the same time not looking forward to the first week of new releases. Fucking chogall everywhere ruining games. Lunara is gonna come out and people are gonna first pick instalock her and then proceed to feed 2-15-4 with her. Ugh.

>>124084629
>2 kills

that's being generous

>>124084629
>>124084698
I can already see it. she has a jump right? i'm gonna be losing my shit when someone jumps to avoid a skillshot/aoe and gets inside an enemy fort

>>124084829
it's gonna be the retarded Artanis players again

>low enemy
>blade rush through their wall
>eat 6 tower shots and a faceful of 2 fort shots
>get killed on their way back
>ragdoll body flies across the lane back to our fort

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>>124082613
>Cho'gall with void prison

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>ask guy which role he wants
>"idc i'll fill waht u need"
>halfway through the game he refuses to continue playing, sitting at the core and whining about how we forced him to play a character he doesn't like
stop it with this "i'll fill" garbage
play what you can fucking play

>>124084972
>having ragdolls on

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Lunara is cute, but I don't know if she is fun because Blizzard is holding out on us for WAY too long

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>>124069124
thats illidan pre-nerf. and malf before the scaling changes.

jimmy is my main dps now

>Gaz free week.
>Try him out in training.

Wow, he is shit. Who the fuck thought was a good idea to design a character like this. Turrets are crap, laser takes fucking 4 seconds to charge (otherwise it does not damage), bomb is obvious as fuck and only useful as a combo with GravBomb.

How do people justify taking this piece of shit? Zagara is better in every way and actually poses a threat in fights.

>>124085885
gazlowe controls areas of the map, just shit out 3 turrets, talent into turret slow and people will try to walk through and get fucked

>>124085885
>halve laser charge speed and reduce mana costs depending on charge level
>make scrap-o-matic and reduce reuse recycle baseline
>buff robo-goblin significantly or add more functionality to it to make it less garbage
>damage output buffs all around

>>124079427
you can't cause you'll be matched with shitters cause blizz sucks

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>>124069124
Valla from Alpha since she was the only hero I had
Johanna since she's second best hero
Rehgar since he's first best hero

>>124085885
>>124086073

He's getting massively reworked soon. Blizz said after someone asked "Why has Gazlowe received no love since forever"

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Versus AI
>Coming soon

Kharazim players are guranteed asshats

>Only ever use divine palm on themselves, no exceptions
>"look at me guys Im a ninja"
>"healing? Fuck off im not support :D"

>>124086969
>I'm building damage :DDDD
>please don't take Iron Fists
>no it's viable now :DDDDD
>ok, well take Palm so we get some healing
>no SSS is really good :DDDDD
>engages with SSS, dies because lmao no heals
>lose because 0.5 support vs 1 support
fuck all Kharazim players

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bets?

>>124087496
Blue only because their support has master kharazim portrait

>>124087496
>Sooicide
more like hoomicide, seeing as she's going to let everyone down

>>124085796

>40% slow
>2.4 sec cd with a tier 1 talent
>Only reliant on having your dot up on them that can be applied with an auto or any of your spells

The kite master. She'll be fun

>>124087293
Shitter

>>124088046

"Assassin" Kharazim detected.

>>124088046
pot and kettle, etc.

>>124087496
>Abathur
enjoy your free win

>Join the /vg/ chat
>Half of the people are just spouting memes
>The other half is doing ERP

>>124087563
>>124087636
>>124088695
turns out ZrRush is a troll and refused to group all game and fed coins to the enemies

gg

>>124088878
Or a typical player at your low ranks.

>>124089597
probably, but i've run into him a couple of times on either team and he always seems to be doing something stupid. and also, he's muted too, so must be a barrel of laughs

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HERE WE GO BOIS
FIRST PICK INSTALOCK NOVA

>>124089710
Probably salty over getting silenced.

>>124090085
>reddit
why

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>>124090230
bastard's been silenced for over a week now, kek

>>124090331
because /vg/ chat is SOOO much better, right?


in other news, bets?

>>124090458
Not artanis team

>>124090458
fuck off reddit tard

>>124090458
>>>/r/eddit

>>124090715
Anything can happen when they have a level 37, tells a lot of the quality of the match.

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>>124090458
nova is a good character
unranked sylv also didn't help wasting the first terror and losing us any momentum

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>>124069124

>>124092649
So many peoples with Nova as most played hero.

>>124085741

But I only know how to play Illidan.

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#justrank30things

>>124093371
Nice name-hiding buddy lmao.

>>124093371
sup Rockstopper

>>124090085
I've done that twice now. Each time I said "yolo :^D"

We won_ both games

>>124090085
Didn't you get the memo? Nova is top tier pick now.

>>124085796
No, she is not cute. She is scary and freaky.

Haven't played much since the Artanis patch.

How much have the scaling changes shuffled the meta?

>>124094201
quite a lot desu, Thrall is hitting like a motherfucker for example

>>124094201
Not many heroes were affected, but those that were were hit HARD.

>straight line skill shot comes at you
WHAT DO YOU DO?

>continue running straight
>turn slightly to one side

>>124094703
>straight line skill shot comes at you

>press my escape skill
>game farts because shitty optimization
>get hit anyways

>>124094703
Running straight, that way even if it hits me he now has it on cooldown.

>>124094825
fuck, next level strats right here

>>124094703
Literally depends entirely on the situation.

>>124094358
>>124094364
I like Tyrael. How was he affected?

>>124094703
Ah, the "Prometheus problem"

>>124095207
Not at all really. I guess being left behind in levels now matters less on a team with Tyrael.

As in you don't get shitwrecked up the ass.

>>124095207
tyrone's tyrone

>>124081706
Not possible I hate that little shit.

>nova player has 5k hero damage

>>124069124
nova/valla/sylv
only tyrande can challenge that since jaina is too boring and i cycle through everything else regularly

>>124078010
watch the minimap if it has to be one thing.

>>124079982
too busy bitching about not having heals probably

he got a bigger buff for general qm/hl use than tyrande did and she jumped massively. shouldn't really have needed to have been told he's good.

>>124081981
need to set server preference if you play off peak hours so you don't get thrown around the world (as much)

speed doesn't really matter unless you are still on dialup and saturate it. thousands of feet on dsl or fiber doesn't mean much to ping. lag is a little more obvious in this game than most others so anyone doing anything else substantial on the connection will probably be noticed.

>>124095490
>hero deals 100% damage
>has 25% health
>but earns 25% xp
>and has one of the best escapes in the game
>and slow abilities
>and high damage abilities
>and lockdown abilities
>and can respawn instantly unless you go to actually destroy the spawn point

>>124095686
Just kill him fast before he does anything

>die while choosing a talent
>Artanis says "ahh, so this is the plan"
cheeky cunt

>>124095686
I can never find the damn egg so it feels like im swatting flies every time he shows up.

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>>124094703
Turn around and face it head-on like a man then spam B in front of them to show I'm not scared of their pussy ass skillshots

>>124095828
W Q E Q
W Q E Q
W Q E Q

>>124095568
>>124082336
Can't change my preference because there's only 1 server.

>>124095920
this is the correct answer

Which hero should be my first buy?

>>124096137
The one you enjoy playing after you've played through all the heroes in free rotation and gotten them to level 6 to have not only the gold to buy 4 heroes but experience with them beforehand.

>>124096137
>buy
gold or real monies?

because
if gold, then Tyrande
if monies, then Gazlowe

>>124093371
>playing Nova
>temp muted

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>-3.6%

>tfw the skeleton king calls your name
>tfw fewer people are responding

sad skelly

how do you get muted?

i rage in pretty much every single one of my games but i haven't gotten muted yet, lol

>>124093371
>>124093606
>>124093697
>nova players

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>>124094703
start drinking my brew and laugh as he tries to kill me, then my team arrived and kills him

>>124096606
"drinking solves all your problems"
-Chen Stormstout

>>124096913
Well except being a shit tier hero.

>>124096606
Remember when the Kungfu Pandas were just a joke in warcraft 3?

>>124096606
IS TROBAH BREWIN
NEEM YA POISON
ANOTHER ROUND?

>Be Yurofag
>Every game has Nova/Artanis
Let it end

>>124097010
if no one ever picks him, that just means more time in the Nexus drinking instead of fighting

>>124096913
>tfw vs a team with no stuns
>game starts
>run up to the enemy towers and start drinking my brew
>just stand there soaking up damage until the first objective, occasionally spitting out fire whenever I can
>a couple of the enemy heroes try attacking me but just give up after a while

>>124097137
>be yurofag
>spain, russia and france all suck at games
>they are 80% of europe

>>124097275
>give up
more like realize that Chen doesn't pose any threat at all with piss poor damage so they figure out that it's a 4v5 and march to an easy win

and you can just stay there drinking until the cries of your teammates fade away into your drunken stupors

rank 1 heroes
raynor valla johanna muradin zagara sylvanas tyrande lili
you basically don't need anyone else

>>124097489
>tfw always get first or second in hero damage as chen
who started this "chen does no damage" meme

>>124097512
>KT not on that list
you high?

>>124097512
you forgot le not abandoning man

>>124097610
The same shitters who play Abathur.

>>124097680
I forgot the mages
add kt and jaina do that list
which coincidentally makes exactly the 10 heroes needed for HL

>>124097512
Monk and Uther are better than Li Li, KT is far and away better than Valla, ETC should be there too. Sylvanas shouldn't be on the list, but neither should Li Li.

>tfw you don't want to play Gaz, but haven't leveled him up to 5 for the 500 gold

i feel disgusted by even having him available to select in my hero pool, but 500 gold is 500 gold. thankfully i can just afk train him to 5 instead of actually having to play him.

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The things I'd do to Sgt. Hammer.

>>124097917
I wouldn't put Jaina there, she is probably tier 2 and much harder to play well than kt.

>>124097941
gazlowe is fun and cute

>>124097937
any remotely decent team will shut down ETC fast, and mosh pit is interruptable by most heroes at level 1 so no

>>124098120
>penetrating rounds

>>124096137
buy what you like still after playing them on free week.

you can get a lot of gold upfront in this game (in the first 2 months or so) through account levels and playing characters to level 5. realistic gains after that are closer to 8-10k a month from dailies, so don't rush into a bunch of 10k characters if you want to play free. anything you like at 2-4k is a good buy.

>>124098120
>he's into chubby midgets

>>124098395
chubby midgets are the best cock socks

prove me wrong

>>124097512
everyone else is filler right now after kael and tyrande

>>124098395
Must be a small as fuck tank...

How the fuck do I into Sylvanas?

I really want to learn her and do well with her, but I have no fucking clue at all. Is she literally just sit in a lane and push push push?

>>124098723
pick a better hero

>>124098719
nigga shes like the smallest hero in the entire game, fucking murky is as big as the tank.

>>124098723
her strong points are nearly instant waveclearing after level 7 (unstable poison), easy camp clearing (trait), good sustained damage with withering fire and excellent mobility with banshees

on top of that, you can build her for sustained safe damage (with the wind, level 1) and survivability (spell shield, 13) or mobility (evasive fire, 13)

she's never a bad pick and her silence ult can decide teamfights

basically she's tier 1 as long as you play safe and there's no nova/zeratul in enemy team

>tfw teammate so retarded you have to report him twice

quick match is retarded

>>124099185
>>124099295
>get gud

so really what's johanna's hairstyle called? she's got the best haircut

Is there a melee hero that's bretty gud and faceroll easy like Raynor?

>only one real skill to think about, just auto attack mostly
>Inspire used as needed
>Ult used on judgement call
>can focus more on precise positioning
>doesn't really use up much of his mana unless you are spamming Q for some reason, so it's one less bar to worry about

I'm a fucking scrub, but I do pretty OK when my hero has fewer variables to think about. I know for a fact I could never ever play someone like Abathur where I need to constantly watch the map.

Would Thrall fit this category pretty well?

>chain lightning to poke
>wolf to either kite or catch
>hammer to smash or run
>ult and try to split them up

>>124099185
>tfw salty ass teammates reports you because you reported him
>you get silenced
>Reason: "Shut up" "dumb"

>>124099391
>get good at not getting matched with terrible Rehgars who feed and then AFK when you call them out
teach me your ways

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I want out of MMR hell

>>124099563

How the fuck do you feed with Rehgar? He really doesn't have any reason to be up on the frontlines except if he's trying to bite someone. And even then, he shouldn't be doing it unless they are low enough that it scares them or it can actually execute them.

>>124099479
duke

>>124099479
peach gobbler

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>artanis is free this week

>>124099810
>How the fuck do you feed with Rehgar?
>run into the enemy team 1v4
>get double stunned by a Tyrande and Gazlowe
>fuck up your ult
>repeat until the tank that's getting dicked because he has no healer gets upset
>afk

>>124099810
How to feed as Rehgar:
About to die? Don't press Z. Don't do it.

Don't press Z.

Do not mount up.

You have fed.

>>124099967
>nova is free this week
>tassadar is free this week
>fucking gazlowe is free this week

>>124100008

That's what I mean. You have a fucking free mount at any time. How the fuck do you blow that unless you get massively stunlocked?

>>124099991

Maybe he picked the wrong orc by mistake.

>>124100079
I don't mind any of these because they still somehow have a lower rate of feeding than artanis

>artanis walks into 3 people solo and puts a prism in that like it's sick harass
>he is now surrounded by 3 heroes
>realizes his mistake
>bladedashes away, haha suck it faggo-
>comes back
>dies

I swear none of them fucking know that blade dash isnt an escape

it hurts me everytime when some stupid faggot uses it on a target he could've been bodyblocking, or uses it instead of just running away and setting himself up for a chainstun

>>124097941
AFK TRAINING
F
K

T
R
A
I
N
I
N
G

>>124100282
My favorite is when they will escape in time and use blade dash and it gives the enemy enough time to kill him

>>124100253
he also once was getting chased and refused to Z. I think me saying "dude, use your Z!" after was why he AFKd

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EheehaAHAHAHHAHA.

>>124064226
>heal MEEEEE
>is 1/7/3
>no artanus you're a feeder you suck
>that's cuz you don't heal me!!!!

>>124057736
After literal legend Orgrim and Lothar

>>124062435
But reincarnation, warstomp and shockwave though, le meme cow doesn't have any of those.

>>124077069
>single target healing has less healing than aoe heal that procs twice and has a free aoe heal just by autoattacking
Ya you're a moron.

>>124101853
>DEDICATED healer that can't do anything else doesn't even top heal stats
lol, why are you still here morales?

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>>124100282
>Artanis dashes into my team
>gets stunned midway
>dies
everytime

>>124079427
You will begin by playing against potatoes and your mmr will quickly increase. Then you will play against better people. What happened to me was I got to 3.3k mmr in placements and was playing against streamers and high mmr people. Then I lost like 5 games and went down 300mmr in each game. Now when I win I gain 20mmr and I'm forever stuck with retards

>>124102045
>play diablo
>wait for dash near gate
>E him over gate
>kek loudly.

>>124102045
>>124102302
>arthanis in my team is trying to run from the red team artanis
>he uses prism when he cross the door
>ded by towers

>>124102045

He dashes forward!
He dashes back again!
He feeds!
He's Artanis, Hierarch of the Protoss!

>>124101175
post score screen

>>124102458
>nova shitters in every match
when will this meme end?

>>124102475
i didnt cap it, but we still won 20-17 level lead.

>>124102682
Nice, I had faith in you guys for some reason

>>124102302
Did diablo get buffed alot?
I hadn't played for months and then I come back and try Diablo out, suddenly hes a fucking beast.

>>124099793
that's all improved matchmaking is going to create for most people. more 30 minute games for +2MMR. almost going to have to do a soft mmr reset so people don't have double digit win/loss streaks.

>>124102775
He was always good, but the scaling changes made his early game much better and they also took some of his damage from autoattacks and gave it to his spells instead. It helps him a lot

>decide to play malfurion to remember why I don't like him
>shitty heal that's 90% heal over time 10% instant heal and pretty much useless mid-fight
>moonfire has nice range but it does no significant damage, only useful for revealing a nova or something
>entangling roots makes a huge circle, it's not even instant, it has to grow, you have to be retarded to get stuck in it, or in some novel situation where you have a bunch of melee heroes all scrunched into one small area
>innervate is a cool ability but not worth it because the rest of malfs kit is shit
>ults are ok, tranq is like a shitty version of lilis jug ult, twilight dream is situational but decent
literally trash tier support

>>124102615
next week

Are there any streamers that are good at Tyrande? I thought like Chu8 was good at her, but he just used the worst spec and landed one stun because the thrall ran backwards into it, and didn't really heal ever. It was horrible to watch.

How are people so shit with Nova?

My first game was 10 /2 /20.

All you do is take burst damage and be really choosy about when to shoot, as in basically, don't engage if your team isn't near and shoot the squishy.

Poop a Holo gram to try and make them waist something. Shit out Precision shot in team fights.

With Ability power per kill, cloaked snipe and armor shots you can almost one shot Kael.

Her short coming is that if she's chased by anyone with any CC at all she's dead.

I don't even like stealth heroes, but shit she is easy mode, point click damage. She can't push a lane to save her life though.

>>124103509
>QM

Thats why. Try playing her in HL. You will be shit on constantly.

>>124103502
im about to log on, i can show you a replay or two with me and thisigia playing tyrande/diablo together with voice comms

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bets?

>>124103502
Streamers don't play Tyrande because she doesn't yolo top the charts with damages.

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when you see it

>>124102775
He a got a shit load more HP. To back up the fact that he has pretty much no retreat.

Probably my favorite hero right now.

>>124103502

i saw that game yesterday too i didn't know someone could be so bad at a hero in hots

>>124103776
Why is there a fucking russky on our Murican servers?

>>124100282
>Friendly ar-tanned-ass
>Enemy Kael chooses double flamestrike and casts at artard
>Artard hit by first strike
>He is at the flames edge
>Dashes in perfect timing to hit nothing then fly back into the second strike
>Living bomb
>Dead

>>124103776
What rank are you playing at? Why does the other team have no support.

>>124103663
>silenced gazlowe
>lvl 20 raynor
topkek

>>124103809
>>124103164

So basically they made him into a tank and now hes incredibly hard to kill....... Good to know.
>hes literally the only Diablo hero I own

>>124103658
You play not-vikings characters?

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>>124103663
We actually won this, under12 minutes. 5 specs OP!

>>124105047
full specialist team are way, way too powerful in early game but they are shit in late game.

>>124104439
No, diablo is still easy to kill. He has slightly more HP than before, proportionally, but he's still really squishy.

The difference is that now his skills do a sizable amount of damage even in the earlygame, so he can live up to that role better.

>>124103665
your team will win by a landslide

How's that even a question?

>>124103776
>>124104310
Reminder
CommanderITF current MMR: 2171

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>>124104310

14, EU

they sort of both picked Nova and Hammer in 3-4 seconds after it was their turn to draft so I think they just sort of instalocked their hero of choice despite not realising they were missing a support. Nova also took triple tap and fired it off three times, twice I cancelled it and once she fired it at me directly despite me being at 60% HP and 3 levels ahead

>>124105946
Dustin Browder please implement grand master ranks so these rank 1 players can stop using it as a crutch for their terrible skill.

>playing diablo
>lane with rexxar
>30 seconds into the game
>rexxar overextends and dies
>"diablo you're useless"
>mute him
>see people telling him to shut up later game
>win anyway
what the fuck is wrong with these people, why are they so angry

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>>124106129
>Implying ITF is rank 1

>>124106661
Wait, there are people in this thread who aren't at rank 1 yet? Why not? Do they not play this game?

Oh yeah.

>>124106661
>says the shitter who isnt r1

playing hero league should not be this stressful

>>124108878
just play for fun mate

>>124108961
FIRST PICK INSTALOCK GAZLOWE
>welp, gg, fuck it

2nd and 3rd pick Murky Nova
>ayfkm

i pick Muradin and 5th picks Uther, because god knows we need them

fuck my life

>>124109117
>firstpicks gazlowe
>game starts
>he goes "gg, our comp sucks"
???

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>1 win away from rank 1
>Possession sylv
>GP Nova

Yea fuck you to.

When Morales and Monk dropping to 2k? And Uther needs to be 15k forever.

>>124109617
The monk was 5k for 12 hours a week back and I still didn't buy him.

So, literally never.

>>124109617
I just paid 10k for the worst hero in the game

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>Still no Vulture mount
I know it's not going to come out at the same time as the sale, but come on Blizzard I need this shit.

>>124110212
chen doesn't cost 10k.

>>124110212
gazlowe doesn't cost 10k.

>>124110320
>>124110416
azmodan

they fucked him up with the scaling changes, he barely does any damage now

>malfurion and nova on spider queen
>against kael'thas

yea gg

also I'm fucking sick of nova players
all they ever instantly fucking do is lock in their stupid fucking le three bullets not-man and won't ever change it no matter what you say because HUURRR I MUST PLAY NOVA WHAT ARE TEAMCOMP SYNERGIES WHAT ARE TEAM ROLES I WANNA BE INVIS SNIPER

and then they run around and don't fight because MUH GP STACKS and then die anyway because they're fucking idiots and you lose

the second bans come to HL all I'm doing every game is instabanning Nova regardless, I'd rather have Gazlowe or CG

>>124110501
The only thing affected is how the black pool adds the damage multiplier. So if you had 200 + 800 damage, +40%, you'd "only" get 1140 damage. They'll fix it.

>>124110307
They should really release Guldan with legion. Or reqork illidan or something, it's fucking horrible.

>>124110645
Illidan has a WoW Legion skin coming. It was shown in the Arena preview.