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>What's new?
Tower of Doom: new map (it sucks). Everything is 50% off give us your money, goyim. SPROINK next week?
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19957176/towers-of-doom-now-playable-11-24-2015

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
FAQ | Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/raynor
News, Updates, and Datamining: http://www.heroesnexus.com/

Previously on /hotsg/: >>123824285
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first for THE CRUSADE CALLS
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Li Li a best. The most fun support.
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>>123944417
i just noticed she has little shield pasties over where her nips would be
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>>123944417
That master skin is terrible.
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>>123944556
Cho'gall has one too, but with a spike!
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>>123944697
good grief you're right
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>>123944819
Azmodan has nipple rings.
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>123944902
Maybe next year.
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Why does illidan suck so fucking bad. His kit is also boring as shit. Blizzard fucked him up.
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>>123944897
gotta look good for the ladies of hell
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>>123945124
He was good when his moves made him unstoppable, then they nerfed him to the ground because he was playable, now after the scaling changes he is worse than gazlowe.
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>>123945237
The scaling changes fucked him up so bad.
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>>123945124
He's a melee assassin that has less health than tyrande and does only half as much AA damage as Thrall. He relies heavily on being played with an uther, aba and tassadar to even be able to get in there and do damage. He is much too weak right now and does basically no damage.
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>>123944531
most fun; most cute
can't wait for summer beach adventures
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>>123945665
Thrall does more than twice as much auto attack damage

Thrall 20 does 380 per swing
Illidan at 20 does 162 per swing

You would think Illidan at least attacks twice as fast, but he only attacks about 1.5 times faster, and windfury is better for getting in and out, also he attacks faster than Illidan for those 3 (or 6 swings if you use the 2 charges in a row), Illidan relies on staying on a target he can't poke like Thrall and does basically zero nothing in terms of damage, I don't even think you can classify him as an assassin at this point.
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How do I into Tassadar?
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>>123946040
Thrall got hugely buffed during the last balance changes. Every late game hero did and Thrall was the definition of a late game hero.

It's why a lot of people thought he was shit.
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Enjoy Chen posts.

Post in Chen threads.

Encourage Chen posters.
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going for rank 30s
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>>123946401
How are they on Tower of Doom? Eric can probably annoying people pretty badly at alters.
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>>123946325
he is a good panda and uncle
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>>123946558
it was 36 to 0 for us. depending on positioning and spawns, if you killed them before the objective appears, how good you zone and dismount, you can grab two at once.
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Where the fuck is my greymane
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>>123946798
They probably won't bother to get him out this year
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>>123946798
not until 2016 anon
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>>123947031
Is that confirmed?
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>>123947407
Theoretically he should be out Dec 29, but it is unlikely
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NOBODY MESSES WITH MY SQUAD
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>>123947407
3-4 weeks per
it's almost time for Lunara since Cho'gall

3-4 weeks after Lunara makes it fall in the last couple of days of 2015 so it's unlikely


also, why are the shittiest players least willing to listen? i'm trying to make calls so they don't fuck up and make mistakes, but all i get in return is "stfu"

>hey, can we get top merc camp at 4:30 so we can get press on top while we contest bot shrine?
stfu

>i have 100 souls, so if i ham, let me die
stfu

>i'll DS raynor bc their diablo keeps diving for him
stfu

>i'm gonna clone ETC so we can double stun at tribute
stfu

the fuck is wrong with people this week?
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I wanna start playing some HL.
Which heroes should I train and main for the road to Rank 1?
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>>123946306
>that no replies
Depends on the game
Lately I've been grabbing all three shield talents because it keeps everything alive always.
The mana talents at 1 are alright early game, but have practically zero impact past level 16 since tass's natural mana is already crazy.
I grab force wall because lately Archon hasn't been doing shit for me, and the damage is only noticable if you spec into storm.
Grab both prescience talents
Those are your survival skills
After level 16 you should never need to hearth because you can heal for about 25% every 20 seconds, not to mention you have a healing autoattack
Rewind isn't that great on tass since all his cooldowns are already low as hell and don't do all that much when you stack them on each other, the force wall upgrade is for when you want to be an everlasting nuisance, so just get Storm Shield always ever, unless you took archon
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>>123948515
Li Li
you should be competent with all your heroes you don't know when you'll be cornered into a pick
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>>123948312
>Lunara
I'm curious how the 20%+ ability power clone lunara will be.

It probably still won't be as good as cloned Jaina

>Cloning ETC
The only person you should be cloning is Jaina, Raynor. If not these two, Valla.
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what went wrong senpaitachi
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thank you matchmaking, for showing me that it's impossible to carry a game when everyone else on your team is absolutely retarded

i'm sorry to have ever questioned your decision to pair me up with people that are -1000 MMR compared to my own
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>>123948956
not him but... what about cloning Uther... or what happens if you clone Cho'gall?
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>>123949270
Cho gall is a good clone target. I just mentioned heroes that have good burst and are picked often.
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>>123949235
Your team had an Illidan, that is worse than gazlowe
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>>123949270
You only get Cho and one of your abilities is worthless. He's probably one of the worst clone targets unless you just want to block people with your massive health pool.
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>>123949391
he said
>stim me and only me
>i main illidan

>mains illidan
>level 7 illidan
>1600 MMR

fucker wasn't even ranked, he was level 32
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>5man /vg/ premade
>everyone is raging at everyone else except towards the one tripfag
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>>123949489
>>123949235
>illidan main
>that talent build
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>>123949576
no fucking clue man, the wonders of Bronze

i guess i'm not playing diablo in QM anymore
actually, fuck that, i'm done for the night
i'm so salty about that last game i'm just gonna call it a night
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Any good hero recommendations for someone with 7k gold?
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On the hots site there is this background before it flashes to the movie shit. Who are these characters suppose to be silhouettes of?
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>>123949235
I hope you weren't medic
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>>123948312
stfu
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>>123949675
at 7k uther or zagara
probably best to save for lunara
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>>123949773
i was blogfag above who wanted to practice more Diablo. then i got that retarded team, t-t-thanks blizzard
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>>123949675
Tyrande
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>>123949862
already got zag. So yeah, save up for lunara or tyrande.

>>123949907
ok. That's shenanigans right there.

Also, can anyone tell me why Cho'Gall is locked?
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>>123949983
you can only get cho'gall from someone else

/join chogall in chat and ask for someone to give you cho'gall

you need to play (and win) 2 games with someone who has cho'gall (add as friend, party up, pick either of the heads, rec gall for your first 2 games) and win 2 versus AI games

don't do it in QM, it's not worth your time or the other guy's time or you get shit like pick related
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>>123949983
>Also, can anyone tell me why Cho'Gall is locked?

Because the only way to get him is to win 2 games with someone who owns him
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>>123949983
Cho'gall you can only get by playing with someone else who has Cho'gall for 2 games. Then you unlock him for free. If you ask in general people will beg to play with you to finish their 2.2k gold quest for giving him away.
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>>123950125
>>123949983
Also if you want the wins you can just play against AI to finish the Cho'gall quest, don't have to worry about winning in QM.
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What did I do to deserve this?
Blizzard... pls.
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>>123951504
you're a shitter so you go straight to shitter league
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>>123951504
Yup

I stopped while I was ahead and called it a night. Almost seems like all the retards are coming out in full force tonight for both HL and QM.
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>>123951504
If you are playing on US it's probably the worst time to play
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>>123951889
Naa EU, it's like 8-9am ish

>>123951743
Voice coms couldn't even help me carry it, maybe if I had telepathy and they all followed my exact instructions....

>>123951504
A shitter with 2000+ games deserves better than that.
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>>123951504
I'd be happy to land in a game like that. I'd pick the most shitty fun talents and roll over the enemy team. Or perhaps more likely, get cocky trying to 1v5 and lose the game for my team in the last 5 minutes after dominating for the first twenty.

I don't even play ranked and my games are filled with rank ones that don't want me fucking around on Murky.
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>>123949746
one is Sonya the other is reptile
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>Kinda wanted to play
>Waiting for a /vg/ stack to finish
>Look at their match history
>5 Losses in a row
Nope.
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don't let ur dreams be memes guys

play the best supporter

maybe
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>>123955068
reghar is bald
top support has the most hair
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What are the odds that I'd get into a game with a 4stack of anons.
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>>123955316

Best be talkin' bout Kharazim's beard.
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>>123955614
Which map was it?

Was it BoE?
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>>123955639
no baldos are trustable or supporting. I know.
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>>123955694
Yep. I was the Rexxar.
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>>123955316
You think Tyrande is shaving herself?
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>>123955738
Oh, cool. I was the Li Li.
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>Cho
>Gall
>Abathur
>TLV
>Rexxar

That's 6 on 5

There's no way you can lose!
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>>123955850
>judgement tyrone
Is this 2014?
>No icecock on jaina.
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>Even at rank 1-10 players still don't understand how to draft

Does /vg/ realize that if you first pick a weak or easily counterable hero you are pretty much giving the opposing team two "first" picks?

Yes, heroes like Butcher or Nova have their place but first picking them is just asking to lose.
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>>123945034
Whoa, spoiler that shit
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who has the best ass in hots
serious question
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>>123956562
Li Li
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>>123956562
Tyrande by far
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>>123956594
/thread
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>>123956562
No competition.
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>I play raynor
>gets shut down by basically every hero of the other team

>enemy raynor
>stutterstepping asshole who has 200k hero damage and 0 deaths
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>>123957450
git god
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Is there anything more fun than epic mount falstad
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>>123958018
ur mom
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>>123948985
You weren't playing ranked.
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>>123955316
he has hairy armpits tho
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>Datamine found strings implying a pre-Diablo III hero
Suck it everyone who said it wouldn't happen!
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>Gazlowe free week.
>My first wombo with Nova's precision strike.
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>>123958641
But we already had D2 Diablo
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>>123958824
A hero, though. As in DI or DII player characters.
My bet's on Necromancer as a specialist and maybe Aidan as a warrior.
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The greatest progamer to ever live has retired. What will fill this vacuum in my soul.
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>>123956074
7 on 5 is Abathur clones Rexxar. OP as FUCK
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>>123958641
They showed at Blizzcon people they were trying to get in, and they showed all the hero characters from D2
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>>123959108
Anonymous, BoxeR retired in 2013.
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I have 7k now will have 10k next win, I desire Arthas, should I go for it ?

I only own Zagara, Malfurion and KT so far and want a non squishy melee character.
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>>123959329
I would suggest getting Tyrande and Muradin with that 10k
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>>123959329
Tyrande
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>>123959382
I don't like Muradin, at all.
I got him to level 8 during the free week.
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>>123959417
>Not liking the most consistently picked warrior thoughout the whole life of this game

Bronze Taste.
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>>123959469
I don't enjoy playing him, I'm not saying he's bad...
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why does gazlove get so much hate? he is a pretty good pick in any team
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>>123959417
Oh, he is the most fun tank and probably the strongest tank right now. Have you tried ETC? I'm just thinking of cheap tanks to pick up since you don't have any. Arthas is meh.
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>>123959417

ETC's pretty good for a cheap warrior too.

Unless your problem with Muradin was no damage. Then stay faaaar away from ETC.
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>>123959638
dat mura damage
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>>123959530
Is this bait?

Just in case you're serious: Gazlowe is a one-trick pony that's more or less dead weight when his ult is not up. His laser takes a ridiculous time to charge. Stun bombs take so long to wind up that you can't even combo them with other CC before the enemy just walks out of it. Turrets can just be walked out of and have wonky targeting. He can do some good stuff with grav bomb combo, but ONLY with grav bomb. If it's not up he's like half a hero, only good at maybe helping your team run away until your ult is back up.
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>>123959754
creep damage you mean
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>>123959754
>Illidan is shit
who knew?!
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>>123960040
>not knowing when this webm was made

Your new is showing.
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>>123959195
Does Abathurexxar have its own Misha?
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>>123960126
Yea it does.
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>>123960086
Are you retarded or just pretending?
His nerfs have nothing to do with why he got killed in that webm.

I am also almost certain that I've been here longer than you. Not that it would matter.
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ok so i'm testing anubarak since he's f2p this week and holy shit he's more fragile than a sheet of paper

his only form of sustain is through beetles that die through any AoE and he can barely last 3 seconds in a teamfight

am I doing something wrong or is he really that shit?
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>Nova free week
time to avoid QM for a while then
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>>123959818
laser is shit yes but the rest of his shit is good. both ultis viable. all round good cahracter
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>>123960351
NEVER burrow charge in (unless you are 100% guaranteed securing a kill with its weakass stun).
ALWAYS burrow charge out.
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>>123960405
I miss old shadowstalk on tyrande. Nova free week was great, just playing tyrande or tassadar in QM.
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>>123960429
so basically he's a hit and run minion killer ?
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>>123960880
About. With a fantastic stun.
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>>123960880
He's like the king of cc if you can aim your shit properly, also cocoon is a tf winning skill if you time it properly on their healer or dps
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>tfw you need to pick nova to avoid shitty novas
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>Win 3 Games!

hello losing streak
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>>123960407
>robo goblin
>viable
>turrets that only get good at level 16
>good

kill
yours
elf
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>>123961547
IKTFB
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>everyone starts playing mine / full slug build
>abathur winrate goes down to shit
Figures. Hat for life.
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Guys Browder said Artanis changes incoming in the next patch. Here's hoping it's something good.
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Oh wow, Crippling Shot is indeed way better than Double Fake
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>>123962407
seeing as hes op rn it wont be good
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Getting sick and goddamn tired of this shit
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>>123963042
He's fucking terrible and this is someone who plays him a lot.
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>>123959638
My problem with ETC is that everything he does costs a billion mana and has like a 8 second cd at least.

He's still good and all but like most of the time you are just AA'ing as someone that does the same AA damage as Uther
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>>123963085
Wooow, all this waiting, she was done a month ago and they are just fucking with us at this point.
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>>123963159
>I want another Thrall release
newfriends.
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>>123955068
This kind of made me want to start playing Rehgar again. I stopped because after a few patches, I literally could not win a game with him.

Still my favorite support.
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>>123963779
If these shit sticks cant manage 3 week releases for heroes that already done, with a 120+ dev team, then what the fuck are we even doing
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>>123963779
Thrall's kit gave him everything, ranged poke, a sprint with 2 charges that is his engage/disengage and burst, cc, a reliable big heal, high health and the best ult in the game for team fighting. Thrall was 4v1ing people because he had everything.

Lunara has poison and speed, with a slow, her kit isn't nearly as powerful as Thrall's is, we won't see a release that op for a while. Her ultimates don't seem that good either.
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>>123964028
>Thrall was 4v1ing people because he had everything.

I like when he was op people still tried to defend him as "he's a bruiser, that's what he's suppose to do." or "thrall is vulnerable to CC, just cc him from 100-0!" as if CC doesn't work on any other hero.
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>>123964169
CC don't work on Johanna!
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>>123963779
Butcher was on the main screen when I started, what was Thrall's release like?
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>>123964471
newkek
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>>123964471
this >>123964028 guy sums it up.
He could tank through a 3 man focus because his trait healed him about 3/4 every 5 seconds or so.
All while dishing out the Thrall typical high damage. He fucked the whole team unless you got him stunned for 3-5 seconds.
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when will sylvanas get a proper second ultimate? possession is p useless tb.h
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>>123964647
>possession is p useless tb.h
bronze
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>>123964471
He was basically 1v5ing people and winning or at least taking out 3 of them. His chain lighting was hitting harder than Jaina could hope to (would do about a 5th of her health, that was also when Jaina was still bad and was only used as a slow bot), and he was basically giving himself a instant rehgar ult with his heal every few swings and with BM he was doing all that super fast.
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>>123964468
Johanna can be disregarded in most team fights, only good to tank mercs and temple minions
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azmodunk build or general of hell solo pushing build? which one is best?
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>>123964806
Half of azmo's spells are bugged at this point, just play Zagara
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>>123964778
Now that's just not entirely accurate.
Letting Johanna hug your face while on fire is a very bad strategy indeed.
Condemn is one of the better peel spells too.
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You know what? I liked it better when heroes were op on release.
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>>123964882
hence why I said most

In a 5V5 situation with a Johanna in play, she'll most likely always be the least important one to CC
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speak pup
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>>123964898
The last hero to be OP on release was Leoric, and he wasn't really that devastatingly OP so much as really good in the tanky-tank meta that had arisen for being a tanky tank that counters tanky tanks.
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>>123965787
rip
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>>123965787
I wish I could play video games with my mom, then I would have someone to play with instead of solo with randoms all day
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>>123964898
That's a stupid opinion. Did you buy them every time and just wreck shop?
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>>123966195
that was more interesting than releasing heroes who feel absolutely worthless and obsolete
if they start off as overpowered they get at least some spotlight before being nerfed to hell and back
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>>123966195
this >>123966347
Every hero after monk has needed an immediate buff to even get to a 40% winrate
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How do we fix QM matchmaking?
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>>123967016
get a player base 10x what it currently is
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>>123967303
You'd have to make the game good. I'm talking in its current state.
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>>123967016
remove qm mode
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>>123967375
Alot of the mm problems are people who are shit, but dont know it, getting matched with other people who are shit, and then complaining
Maybe you fix that by showing mmr in game? MM would still be broken for quite a few people, but not nearly as many that bitch about it now
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>>123967671
Which of these team comps would you say is better?
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>>123967820
red team has a real healer, so there's that
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>>123944285
can someone ghive a good sylvanas build?

literally ive been using
1
1
3
1
1
2
3

is this wroong because some guy literally just wailed on me for that build
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>>123967820
I'd rather be on blue, but red is more 'meta' balanced
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so I bought Tyrande and now I have to play with only one hand
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>>123968286

XD
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>>123968286
epic reddit memes
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>>123968304
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so I bought Chen and now I have to play with only one hand
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>>123968205
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/sylvanas?page=3#h9Xu
This is a pretty standard build
T2 - you can choose something else but this one is good for chase and refilling on camps
T6 - You can also go for Blood for Blood but Cold embrace will usually be a lot better
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so I bought The Lost Vikings and now I have to play with both hands
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dead game dead general
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am i meme enough /vg/
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how do i git gud w murky
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>>123968726
keep suiciding until the enemy team gives up
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>>123968726
Play him like Leoric.
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>>123968726
Play him like one of your French girls.
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>>123968764
so as >>123968759 said?

>>123968831
??????????????????
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Heard artanis was free this week

is he worth the time I'll waste reinstalling this piece of shit game

i'm a big protoboo
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>>123957117
Wait, wait, wait, wait... Is that me?
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>>123969121
Just try him out. Dustin says he'll be buffed on the incoming patch. I don't know when'll that get implemented though

He doesn't seem to bad with the scaling changes. Much better than previous patch
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>>123969121
Artanis is fun and fun.

Before 16 you have to play a little conservatively. Once you hit 16 and get Charge you turn into Rapemaster 3D. Also remember you're not a real tank, you're a bruiser like Sonya. With the right build you'll be decently tanky but you have no real hard CC like a stun that any good tank should have.
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>>123969449
>ONLY JUST HIT RANK 10
>NOT RANK 20 YET

PLEBS
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I just started playing this and I have a huge problem. It's like my screen freezes from time to time and especially during team fights. My computer plays everything else completly fine on max, so it shouldn't be a problem with the graphics, but the problem still persists when I turn it on low.
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>>123969682
Picture was from Week 0 of Artanis launch.
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>>123969743
Why not post your level 20 pic then????
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>>123969818
Bcuz I'm too lazy to grind 1 hero to 20.

I might play a lot of Artanis this week, just to save me from getting a bad one.
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>tfw you get your first retarded nova
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>>123970525

I don't know that one
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>>123970592
I mean more retarded than usual
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>>123970525
>it's my first time playing nova sry
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>>123970865
My first time playing Nova I went top damage and completely annihilated the other team, it's really not an excuse to be bad with such an op hero
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>>123969907
But anon. Nova is also free.
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>>123969743
no it really wasnt

God knows youre lying
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>try to play with /vg/
>always one abathur autist that ruins any team comp we try to make
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>>123971224
Blame senjinn
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Did they buff Nova in the last patch or something? There's one in every game now
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>>123972269
Free week
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>>123972269
yes, also she's on free week rotation RIGHT NOW
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>>123972350
>>123972326
Fuuuuuuuuck me
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>>123944285

So these are the WCA rounds, my God.

**Group A has..**

* Tempo Storm (with a new roster)
* compLexity
* OMG (Largely unknown)
* G2.Kinguin
* Edward Gaming (Favorite in this group IMO)
* Asia StarDust(Largely unknown)

Sounds like a reasonable pool right?

**Take a look at Group B:**

* Cloud9 (#1 ranked team, BlizzCon champs)
* Team Liquid (#2 ranked team, granted they have a new lineup)
* eStar (#3 ranked team, #1 in China)
* MVP Black (#6 ranked team, 2nd highest in Korea)
* COGnitive Gaming (underdog in this pool)
* Black Heart(Major underdog)

We are in for some great games. Hopefully we'll have Grubby again!
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>>123972615
I don't know enough about e-sports autism to know what the message of this post is, but thank you for sharing
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>>123972751
He's saying Group B is rigged and Cloud 9 will win
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Anyone get a free day cuz of a bomb threat?
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>>123970525
Bitching about Nova in QM. It's like looking in a toilet and being surprised when you find shit.
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>>123972907

Uh. I think he's saying there will be good games because it's not rigged. Rigged would be cloud9 in group A
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>>123964695
W O O D
O
O
D
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>>123973132
well yeah I would be surprised if I didn't shit in it myself and there was just some randoms persons shit in my toilet
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>>123955068
His totem used to be breddy gud.
Wasn't it temp root?
Then like 90% slow.

What the fuck happened to it?
I played him recently and didn't picked it once.

Just.
Heal.
My.
Shit.
Up.

Fucking cho'gall picks, I swear.

Otherwise no lunge, so fuck him.
Dead character.
Pepperonies m8, I cry.
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>Decide to fuck around with sonya
>Queue up in QM
>Enemy team consists of tassadar, meximedic, cho'gall and sylvanas
>They get the first immortal and proceed to wreck their way towards core
>They want to end early so they prolong the core fight until the next set of immortals spawn
>We finally hit 10
>Proceed to balls in with team and fucking wreck them
>After the match moralez messages me saying I'm playing an "op noob hero get some skill"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgfNk8rR0lk
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>>123973408
Well if you play QM expect to find other people's shit in your toilet.
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>>123973651
THATS A TALENT
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>tassadar on my team

guaranteed loss
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>TLV in my team
>"fuck, we lost already"
>win easily
>TLV in the other team
>"heh, we won this already"
>lose easily
fucking vikings desu
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>>123945124
>muh ebin edgelord
>why isnt he the best hero in the game
Illidan whiners are literally 15 years old
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>>123975453
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE7j-C8Jm_c
THATS A TALENT
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bets
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>>123977714
pretty even match desu senpai
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WHERE IS LUNARA!?!?

I've waited like 100 years already
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looks like i'm in for another Leaver Status
i hit Ready -> queue pops after 50s -> Cancel button disappears -> get stuck on this screen

FUCK ME, AM I RIGHT?
this same shit happened yesterday and i got locked out for 3 leaver games, what the fuck
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WHY THE FUCK ARE MY HOTKEYS RESET
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>>123963095
this, i love him right now but he has some serious azmodan syndrome, you need at least 2 obligatory talents to not be shit and kill fuckers, and 4 (1 of them the same to do dmg) in order to actually survive by shielding
Still lots of fun when you can pull off a 3v1 and get away with it
t. mister QM
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>>123978956
>reddit chat
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How old were you when you realized chen was a god?
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>>123976090
all that is is

>>no one adapts their build to the team
>guaranteed loss
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>>123977714
>Arthas can't solo tank
>Enemy team has Gazlowe
A pretty even match up
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>>123976408
>me unga
>team bunga
>lose

ooga
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Why are people so retarded?
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>>123981382
god of the bronze league
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>>123981382
He has a nice butt.
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>>123971153
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/120199693/#120259781
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>>123981382

If that Sonya were ANY good, she would have melted that trashy bear on a second, even more with root and crippling shot.
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>>123968919
Split push until level 10, then go for ocotgrab
Get into the TF and destroy the shit out of theyr squishy
Go back to push
Also, try to be as annoying as memenly possible
Enjoy.
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>>123982306
Ignore this guy. He probably doesn't even go Slime Advantage.
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>playing battlefield of eternity
>enemy gets the first and second immortal
>our lili keeps going gg
>we're level 9, it's only a few minutes in the game
>point out their early game is stronger than ours and anything can happen

>from this point on lili stands back during teamfights and says "it's fine guys" "we can win this" "they just got a strong earlygame"
>for nearly every single teamfight
>lose them because it's 4v5
>keeps talking shit
>when I point out losing might have to do with typing instead of playing in crucial moments I get a "WOW GOOD PLAYER, TEACH ME RANK 1 MASTER"

What's wrong with some people?
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>>123963779
>blizzard will release a well balanced hero
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>>123982375
I always do but in Infernal Shrines
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>>123982375
>taking Slime Advantage
wew, I sure do love having games thrown at level 7
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>Picking cho'gall in ranked
Why do people still do this?
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>>123982841
>>123982375
I'm not familiar with murky that much, what's the preferable option over slime advantage? I'm guessing compressed air for fights?

It doesn't seem THAT terrible depending on the comp. What I've noticed from playing with murkys on my team is much worse is when they go with a build that focuses on the bubble and survivability. Murky seems kind of useless as shit if he's not pumping out huge damage.
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>>123982907
I remember my second ranked game ever, enemy first pick was cho'gall, me and my bud insta locked leoric and karazhim to kick his ass, kinda like
>>123956265
says. That's why i don't enjoy ranked that much, i play pretty situational heroes and i usually get first pick, i don't have nothing really reliable or "meta"
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>>123982907
because it can be fun and many people don't give a shit about playing top picks vs top picks every game
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>>123944285

YES, Nova, my gf, is getting a talent rework soon. Cannot wait, since I already have +300 games with her and I'm already bored of her playstyle.
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welp I can't play again.
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>>123983328
It'll be a nerf. Removal of lethal decoy and one in a chamber and armor piercing rounds.
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>>123983328
>my gf
so you like watching her going at it with other guys eh
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>>123983076
I find the bubble build kinda useless because of that
Yeah, you can survive and harass longer, but many other talents are more worth imo
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>>123983472

She is not getting any kind of nerf, but a switch of playstyle. She is God in QM on a good player, and barely playable on competitive. Since I'm always playing ranked, I'm actually expecting a buff.

>>123983586

She is as free as me. Can't wait for my other gf Valeera and Tracer get added to the game, I miss them.
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>>123983736
This "switch of playstyle" has always lead to a nerf. Looking forward to what's coming.
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>Try artanis since he is free to see if he is as bad as you guys claim
>Play in vs AI so that I don't fuck people up while I'm just trying a hero

Is he always this bad or am I missing something?

Seems like a bad version of chen
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>>123984135
He's a pretty shitty hero but he can hit pretty hard in late game unlike chen.
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god, why is chen so HOT
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>>123983736
When they rework heroes it's usually a massive nerf
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>>123984135
AI with artanis is more painful that with people, they land perfect stuns just when you're at the end of your q and shut you down
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>>123983328
About time. I hope they make her more flexible so she can be built other than lol1shot kill or i am useless as crap.
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>>123984292
It's the pandaness.
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>>123983223
there is a difference between top pick and utterly useless.
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this again?

well, time to start shitposting i guess
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female dragon that make sex noises in hots when?
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>>123984919
They are doing a service update
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>>123976408
Lost Vikings is the best hero in the game nigga.
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>>123985036
That's kind of hot!
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>>123985036
I do hope for Alex or Ysera at some point
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>>123985619
>more elves
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>>123985036
Ain't this from Dota 2?
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>>123985687
This game should be all elves desu senpai
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>>123985694
yes which is based from warcraft 3 undead dragon i believe
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>>123985794

I don't see the similarities.
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>>123969694
could be a connection problem- the game uses a strange engine that is in lockstep with everyone ingame - so if you have a bad connection, it can also hang and look like it'sa graphics problem
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>>123985794
He used Sindragosa model in Dota, which is now Arthas' ult of course.
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>>123985897
>I don't see the similarities between a blue dragon with ice powers and a blue dragon with ice powers
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>>123985794
Yeah, I know
But that would be adding the Frost Wyrm as a hero itself
Or even Syndragosa
Quite weird :c
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>>123985897
They're both dragons and they're both associated with the cold

what more do you want, a carbon copy? Blizz would sue
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>go to watch the hots touranment that is apparently on since hots is down
>they ban out tyrande
unwatchable
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>>123986172
I don't like the way Khaldor speaks. Unwatchable.
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>chen vs morales team
holy shit morales is BAD
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>>123986172
Tyrande is 2gud right now. I expect some nerfs soon.

Funny how she went from a Muradin accessory stun to overpowered with one change to her shit ulty.
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>>123986394
>Tyrande is 2gud right now. I expect some nerfs soon.
She's really good but only if you can use her properly not like fucking sonya.
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>>123986335
>there are people begging the devs for a morales nerf on twitter
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>tfw all the heroes you enjoy are mid or bottom tier
I still keep playing them but there's this nagging feeling that I could be doing better
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>>123986394
She was always good
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>>123986394
I don't see what they would nerf about her, maybe just increase the time on shadowstalk, even though shadowstalk is mediocre until 20. Her kit was always solid.
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>>123986531
doesnt hurt to play some good heroes. but at least youre not a tier fag
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>no Illidan changes coming

Great, guess my fav character is going to be complete shit.
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>>123987747
>His favorite character is illidan

I wish I could be 12 years old again
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>>123986467
Morales doesn't need a nerf at all, but she is really strong in comps with good peel vs comps with bad dive.

Basically if you pick like a retard you get fucked in the ass by morales
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>>123987747
Where are you seeing this?
Any changes to Kerrigan?
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>>123988070
Kerrigan buffs are confirmed from a while back.
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>>123988070
Kerrigan is really good right now. Especially once my secret Ravage build got leaked.
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>>123987949
don't we all?

fuck if i could redo middle and high school again, i'd be making 100k easily by this time
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>>123988123
Haha oh boy, they're buffing her?
Guess who the next broken hero will be
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>queue up against ai on accident
why can't we just leave?
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>>123988131
She's not really good, she's okay. And that was my ravage build.
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>>123956562
They gave Tyrande a glorious ass out of nowhere.

Blizzard did something with her.
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>>123988123
>>123988131
Cool,thanks
It's nice to be on the receveing end of buffs for a change
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>>123959250
>Varian
>Dr. Boom
>Amon

Goddamnit

>Kel'Thuzad
>Firebat Proxy
>Necromancer
>The Real Barbarian

I am now ok with this. How would they even do Amazon with the Nova skin around though?
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>>123988692
>How would they even do Amazon with the Nova skin around though?
same way they did morales with the uther skin around
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>>123988692

Same way as we got medic after medic Uther.
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>>123988692
bowazon or javazon

they have different outlines compared to Nova's rifle

but yeah, amazon nova skin was retarded as fuck and pretty much ruined any and all chances of the actual amazon getting in because the skin color schemes would be too similar
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Another week.
Another 10k.
Johanna or Thrall?
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>>123956562
Either Butcher or Stitches.
Azmodan master skin has best tits by far.
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>>123988861

Not really, as an artist myself, there is a million ways they could portrait the Amazon.
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So when are reworks to Anus, CG, Tychus and Nova coming along?

Anus is literally worthless before 16 and many teams don't survive until then
CG needs something like a flat damage reduction instead of an XBOXHEUG HP pool which only ever works against him
Tychus is utterly pisspoor atm and is only ever somewhat effective while in his Odin and attacking from miles away.
Nova randomly ruins the game for either her own side by being useless or the enemy side by OHKO'ing their assassins whenever she feels like it.
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>>123988861
Medic will NEVER be in HotS because Uther has a Medic skin.
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>>123988930
You know the answer
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>>123988930
Joh is probably the tankiest tank.Mah favourite warrior for sure
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>>123986280
>Khaldor hate

You can fucking loathe him, but for fucks sake, the man knows this fucking game. All his pre-talk almost always turns out to be true; same lvl as Grubby. He is his only equal.
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>>123988985

Who the FUCK is "Anus" and "CG"? Learn to write without memes you piece of TRASH.

Fucking idiots.
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>>123989416
You're the fucking idiot if you can't tell thats artanis and cho'gall.
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>>123989602
I thought anus was anub desu
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>>123989891
Same here
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Why are all Karazim players think they are good and trying to validate shitty decisions in their game?
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>>123989891
Speaking of the anal insect, does anyone have any tips for playing him?
I feel utterly useless in fights as him. I don't do damage, my stuns are short (but they got good utility) but I survive long as fuck.
Is that really all he does? Stay alive to be a disruptive piece of shit?
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>>123990315
>Stay alive to be a distruptive piece of shit?
Anon you just described the tank role.
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>be me
>want to play vs AI for quick win on dailies
>get this
>Recruit bots

HOW THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE LEGITIMATELY THIS BAD?

i decided to splitpush and take towers and forts because christ they were so bad, i thought they were stormbuddy bots

one of them even told me to stop farming in lane and to teamfight, when they didn't realize that I WAS THE ONLY REASON WE WERE EQUAL LEVEL WITH THE BOTS

FUCKING BOTS
how are people this terrible at the game?
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Anyone else unable to play right now? It wont let me click on the playb utton and a little "downloading" window keeps popping up then fucks off.
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>>123990964
restart the client worked for me.
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>>123990964
> a little "downloading" window keeps popping up
finish downloading the game first you faggot

pieces of shit like you are the reason it takes so fucking long to load into the game, get better internet connection and finish downloading the game before trying to play it
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>>123990941
>getting mad at VS ai games

protip: you were the reason it took so long. In bot games you just all go on one lane and push down it. Bots are too stupid to stop a push.
By sitting on the lane you not only dragged the game out, but you let your other mentally handicapped friends die to 5 bots.

Good going, mad AI retard
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>>123991037
>>123991115
I've restarted the client already and it didn't even download anything. Still doesn't.

Also a little window just popped up on the launcher saying they're releasing a service update. That wasn't there 2 minutes ago
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>>123991143
i'm the reason the game ended in 16 minutes and didn't drag onto 40 minutes where at the end of 50 kills and deaths on either side, the noobs say "gg" to the bots

you fucking try playing a VS AI game and see for yourself how fucking retarded these faggots are

>>123991296
yeah, there's a fix going out

something fucked up with their servers for HotS and Starcraft 2 last night, they couldn't figure out what caused it but it seemed to have fixed itself, and now they're probably rolling out a patch to their servers to repair the weird thing that happened last night and prevent it from happening again
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>>123991484
>you fucking try playing a VS AI game
why would I ever do that
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>>123991484
>you fucking try playing a VS AI game

lol why
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it is tuesday
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Great, the only hero I find fun in this game is going to get ruined.

Fucking browder stupid piece of shit. Never forget his "Gazlowe is top tier on sky temple" comment.
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>>123990315
I feel like Anub got worse since the scaling changes, but I am probably just rusty with him.
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>>123991931
their internal playtests are filled with bronze shitters, of course he thinks gaz is top tier on sky temple.

they should pay Rank1 players to actually playtest balance changes instead of having their retarded scrub internal playtests
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>>123992129
Damn is this your first Blizzard game or something?
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So is sonya considered op now or are people complaining about her because as usual they don't know how to adjust their already rigid playstyle to deal with her?
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>>123991484
>playing vs AI outside of giving Cho'gall to shitter friends
literally why
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>>123992129
it's almost like the game is balanced around whats most fun for the casual crowd, you know like they did with WoW.
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BHB and Garden are back in the game boys.

Rip Mines.
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>>123992628
>Rip Mines.
Good fucking riddance, now if only they would throw away sky temple I could have fun again.
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>>123992628
Good. Fuck Haunted Mines.
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>>123992628

I didn't know BHB was gone, I guess that's why I've been having more fun lately.
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>>123992878
yeah, they killed Mines from the game and removed Garden and BHB from the rotation so that more people could play on ToD

pic related- the only maps that were available for 3 main game modes for the last 2 weeks
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>>123990315
>but I survive long as fuck.
You must be fighting utter fucking shitters because Anub has lower HP than fucking Uther, he gets bursted down like nothing if the enemy team is any good

He's a CC focused hero so hes often wasted on random teams but you should just try to be as annoying as possible, he can actually deal solid damage too and beetles are annoying, just know your limits because you are the squishiest warrior
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>>123992628
>tower of memes stays
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I dunno what it is, but Tassadar seems OP as fuck lately

Maybe those scaling changes were good to him
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>>123993461
Yeah, he's pretty insane right now also unkillable.
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Why did they kill Mines?

Not that I liked that map, but was there an explanation?
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>>123993930
No explanation

I'd imagine their internal data shows it favored certain kinds of heroes most, while being most snowbally
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>>123993930

Extremely linear gameplay compared to other maps
Has the smallest pool of effective heroes
Game often decided very early, causing a poor match experience
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>>123948312
stfu
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>>123993930
New balance completely broke the map. Impossible to fix, therefore, it was removed. Anything else they'll tell is wrong. Even with all the negative feedback, they rolled with it. It was the last update that killed it.
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>>123985372
Wonder if this means PTR.
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>>123982391
>>123982391
play tlv
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>>123993930
There was no explanation, but it's pretty clear that with the scaling changes rolling in and respawn timers getting longer the game would literally be decided by the first teamfight in the mines.
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>play Artanis
>have team with slows or stuns
>reach level 20
>press R
>win
cool hero
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>>123995046
No. There wont be a patch for an additional month.
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>>123993930

We just don't want to overburden that playerbase by making them have to remember the mechanics for 11 different maps.
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>>123993930
players don't understand more than 9 maps
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>>123996343
Why are people who play blizzard games such retards?
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>>123996343
I want to ask those people if they know where Zeratul is.
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>>123996567
because retards are the ideal audience for video games?
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ITT: Stupid things you thought when you were brand new to this game

>Raynor was a sort of offensive support who sat at the back and gave allies attack speed buffs, and you were meant to talent him to assist his survivability
>Sgt.Hammer was some generic ally/enemy you only found in AI games in the form of a small tank and not an actual playable hero
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>>123996886
I thought popping an ulti meant you could fight 1v5
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>>123997043
I thought the same thing, specially since the first hero I played was Kerrigan.

Why is that Ult so useless?
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>>123996886
>Nova and Zeratul are OP
>Kerrigan is good
>this game is fun
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next post decides what hero i instalock next HL game
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>>123997460
Gazlowe
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>>123959250
>Dr Boom
Nice
I also want the Defias Pillager
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>>123996886
>Auto attack and vampiric assault should be good, I mean life leech was good in dota and LoL right. I was 5000+ dota MMR, and diamond league in Lol
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>>123997460
>>123997535
Do it faggot, post screenshot
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>>123959250

>only the base cast
>Druid never
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>>123998185
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>>123996886
>I am not bad at this game
>I should play HL
>I can get by without ever looking up what talents to take
>Generic talents are never worth taking
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>>123998308

>malf is a boring ass healbot bitch

What I hate about the HotS talent system and overall hero design is there's very little flexibility. Trying to play Malfurion or Uther as anything but a support just does not work, even against retards.
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Post your most wins hl hero and their winrate.

Tyrande 88%
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>>123998704
>or Uther as anything but a support just does not work, even against retards.
in my shit tier MMR, Uther makes a pretty decent off-tank if you spec stun
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>>123996886
I used to take the treant talent on Malf because I loved playing dick ass pushing Furion with necro in Dota and thought that it will be somehow decent in this game too.
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>>123998896
>I play Tyrande
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>>123944285
>Still have money enough to buy one hero on 50% discount
I am almost buying a skin, I have the feeling I have most of the best heroes already. Abathur, Nova, Khazarim and Valla.
>inb4 meme heroes
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>>123999423
Kharazim*
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>>123999423
>best heroes
>Nova
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>>123999298
>I don't play tyrande
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>Playing as Abathur
>Have the feeling team is shit
Would it work for me to focus on Symbiosis buff and create a Monstruosity and farm it to max?
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>>123997535
>>123997927
will deliver after we lose this one
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>>123999298

>I don't play Tyrande, she's too popular
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>>123999920
Might work on maps where you can backdoor with it without the enemy team realising, like the Inmortals I suppose
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>>123993930
it helps hide their shitty matchmaking a bit longer at least. there's really nothing wrong with it beside it being the least prolonged map for imbalanced MMR or uncoordinated teams. the couple seconds on early death timers and less level imbalance is net nothing

they have said that dueling terrors in the garden are undesirable so they might do something to change that with mines
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>>123999639
>>124000332
>I LOVE Tyrande! She has such a nice ass too!
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>>123997535
>>123997927
First pick. This should be a good one.
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>>123998674
>I can get by without ever looking up what talents to take
if you can't hit the most popular master/diamond builds in 10 games or less by yourself you might as well uninstall immediately or start looking for homes in bronzeville.
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>>124000937
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>>124000734
>picking a character based on their ass only
you are a deplorable person, anon
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>>124001183

>that name
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>>124001439
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>>124001439
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>>124000734
She is the most fun hero in the game though, plus you don't even see her ass while playing
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Who did Tempo Storm recruit to replace the feeder and Arthelon?
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>DAT ASS on Tyrande, am I right bros?
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>>123997561
THE SKELETON KING CALLS YOUR NAME
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>I post images of men wearing hats on an anonymous anime imageboard when people talk about things I disapprove of
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>>124002946
they appear to have gotten it backwards
they kicked off soldier and kaeyoh instead of recruiting 2 more
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>>123993930
map is shit
>push as 5 from first minute
>make 25 skulls golem and continue to push
>game over before min 10
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>>124003171
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Is the netcode shit or something in this game? This lag is unbearable. I've never experienced anything like it.
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>>123959754
I wish my computer wasn't shit so I could turn on physics and special effects... it's always hilarious to look at the bodies flying away
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Zagara nerf when? op garbage
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>>124004269
Right after they nerf Jaina, Kael, Uther, Sonya, Muradin
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>>124004269
leave my waifu in pc you sylvana lover
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>>124004365
>>124003001
>>124000734
>>123999639
>>123999298


why the actual fuck are there so many photos of neckbeards with fedoras and shit trying to be edgy or some shit

like, jesus christ can they not see how fucking pathetic is? like, do they not have any sense of what the fuck goes into making a presentable outfit?

like, fuck me, lose the hat, shave the beard, trim the pedostache, go work out a little, get some polos and a sports coat. jeans are fucking simple, pick something that fits well and is a nice dark color (not black)

like, christ, please who are they trying to impress?
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>>124004269

He can't handle the ass

poor lad
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>>124004743
>in pc
I'm retarded

>>124004783
>who are they trying to impress?
the mladys
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>>124004783
>polos
>sport coat

Do you even /fa? Jesus Christ, I fucking bet you also wear cargo shorts and flip flops to school.
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>>124004783
I must have lost the fedora man asking a question at Blizzcon about Ysera in hots, does someone have that one?
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>>124006057
i only have this one
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>queue for HL
>entire game is composed of my team clustering for mosh pits and chain bombs
>queue for HL again
>team actively communicates about which heroes to pick to complement each other
>someone dodges
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>>124004783
A massive lack of self-awareness
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>>124006553
>queue for HL
>I'm 3rd to pick
>show them my intentions to play artanis
>first guys locks it saying that it's his main
>totally sucks, makes us lose all team battles while at the same time spamming pings and blaming some poor bastard that didn't say anything the entire match but colaborated in the right places
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>Hero League
>retard is silenced
can't be that bad, right?
>feeds all game, right out of the gate

welp, thanks for the loss, blizzard, i don't know why you silence retards instead of just banning them, but okay, this is fine too
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>>123971595
senjinn here

he's probably talking about kamunster. illidan is my main, technically. he's in a pretty shitty spot so he isn't worth playing. i only play abathur if i'm playing with very good players and feel like playing strategically; one advantage of playing abathur is that you're much more capable of paying close attention to the map, and if your teammates aren't brain dead/they trust you, you can control things with pings. i actually enjoy playing cho with snoke more than anything right now, i haven't lost a match with him playing gall yet. chogall's mobility is really good, if they gave him unstoppable on his punch i think he'd be really viable. split cho and gall's health pools but have them be shared as well so giant killer doesn't rip him to shreds.

i ripped my computer apart and cleaned everything with alcohol, it starts up now but doesn't post so it is most likely the motherboard. i ordered a new one yesterday and that left me with 17 cents in my bank account. anyone care to donate to the senjinn computer fund?
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>>124008069
>anyone care to donate to the senjinn computer fund?
But you already got your computer funded, and even with 17 cents to spare!
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>tfw you finally get paired up vs Rank 1s
>tfw you have 2 feeders on your team
>tfw matchmaker thinks you're not worthy because you lost
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>>123995640
>Play Muradin
>Jump in
>Clap
>Avatar
>Assist the meme beam
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>playing murky
>get matched vs chodeballs
>octograb the shit out of him
>win by a landslide
nice hero blizz
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>>124010036
Chogall is a very dangerous hero to play. I'd say he'd be best played with an Uther and maybe the Lost Vikings on the team.
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>>124010036
>playing cho'gall
>get matched with retarded murky
>he octograbs me
>my loyal support instantly cleanses me and we all destroy the enemy together
>teammate finds murky's egg and destroys it right before i detonate the bomb that kills murky

Stay bad.
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>>124009083
maybe if you werent playing cho you wouldnt have 2 people on your team feeding

git gud
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>>124008069
LMAOing @ ur poverty
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>>124010742
>Hero League
>picking Cho

nigga i don't even own the fucking faggot
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>>124011168
you're missing out
he's bretty fun_
>>
>Pick uther
>Be only healer
>Heal bitches all day and we stomp

>Pick uther
>We get 2 other heroes
>Talent as Retribution Uther with aoe fire, divine storm, all the right click talents, holy shock etc.
>Stand toe to toe with warriors late game and remove lesser trash healers by myself
>Stun lock assassins for so long they cant kill me

WHY HAVENT YOU ACCEPTED THE LIGHT INTO YOUR HEART YET?

Why is Uther Overpowered in every franchise he's in?
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FORCED 50 BY PAIRING YOU UP WITH FAGGOTS AND RETARDS. JESUS CHRIST TAKE ME NOW

Loss - 2 feeders with 10 deaths by 6 minutes.
Loss - 1 feeder and 1 bitch who lanes all game as Nova
Loss - our healer who refuses to help because "they're a level up" all game
Loss - Raynor who built wrong and does no damage, he says he was "burst raynor" with Q build
Loss - bitch ass nazeebo who has no balls to lane so he feeds 8 deaths in 5 minutes, then refuses to group

ONLY CONSTANT AM I RIGHT?
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how bad is rank 30?
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>>124011697
Do you have to like lose all your placement matches to get rank 30?
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>>124011697
1 Rank = 2% of players
Rank 30 = 60th percentile

you are below average
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Why can't I get above 30 fps on the lowest possible settings? This has never happened on any game.
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>>124011525
Balance is always changing and making paladins OP is a priority because its a class clueless faggots swarm to

Same with Kael'thas, 10k and sitting at a 80% representation in HL because "blood elves are so fucking epic man xD"

Its a shame that HOTS has to cater to WoW faggot fanbase but they have to get the money somehow
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>>124011869
do you have vsync on?

also
>thinking performance in one game = performance in other games
thanks for the chuckle faggot, no one enough of a retard to actually believe that
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>>124011869
Post specs
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>>124011869
The game is still in beta and poorly optimized.
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>>124012085
No
>>124012158
It's a shitty PC but I can play most games at ~60 fps and ~100 on lowest settings.
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>>124012626
>most games
the fuck are you on about?

specs faggot
>>
SCARLET CRUSADE HERO WHEN?

If male, I already got the VA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_3ZTp4eG4
>>
coming back from a month break, was the map pool stealthily reduced? I only seem to play on cursed hollow, tosq, boe, dragon shire, sky temple and towers of doom now

what happened to infernal shrines, bhb and haunted mines?
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>>124012884
He sounds too cool-headed to be a scarlet crusader VA those guys are crazy
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>>124012919
removed forever, was too confusing for new players
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>>124012919
>>124013648
ignore the brodeposter, only mines were gone, not sure if permantently
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>>124012919
haunted mines removed for an indefinite amount of time
shrines and bhb are still in
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>>124013997
bhb is so shit compared to mines. Blizzard have no clue what they're doing
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Also interesting that Chris sees Illidan as this bad. What do you guys think about his tier-list/builts?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QGE5bT2790AcoSnUUerg2ywVcAetaznDpgvgk4RSDq8/htmlview?pli=1&sle=true#

Interesting what "pro players" got as builts and what kind of talents they take based on the enemy/map. Just wished he would have explained when he takes what built with certain heroes like Abathur.
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>>124012919
New map came out, so they reduced the map pool to make it show up more frequently. All but Haunted Mines have been brought back into the pool. Mines may be gone for good, because too many maps/scaling changes broke it.
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>>124014597
as much as i hate how pve bhb is, its a good map when players actually fight each other

haunted mines was always pure shit
>>
If they do shit like give Nova wave clear and remove her roaming capability I'm uninstalling the game.
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>>124014631

Grubby have a better one. Just go to his channel and he'll give you 2 or 3 talent builds for each hero with a little description.

Just write !nameofthero and you'll get it.
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when do i start to git gud /hotsg/ ?
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>20k experience contribution
>teammates are hovering around 10k
>we get stomped
ONLY
CONSTANT
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>>124014631
Abathur doesn't have a set build, you actually have to adjust to team comp and map. Usually your first 3 talents are map/comp reliant and 13 and 16 are reliant on how the games going. Always take hivemind at 20 though it's just too good not to.
>>
What should I buy during the sale?
>Succubus Kerrigan
>Butcher
>Morales + Apothecary Morales
>Hellhammer Thrall
>Storm Mantle Malfurion
>Commander Raynor
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Convince me not to by Arthas with his Crown Prince skin
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>>124011525
>Our Uther picks holy shock
>start's soloing their teams Valla

how much fucking damage does that do
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>>124015995
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>>124016649
50% of its healing
so like 400 something damage at 20
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>>124016578

Arthas is garbo.

That's all you need.
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>>124016812
Master Li Li skin is better. I am ready for adventure.
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Do I buy Sylvanas or Thrall?
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>>123944285
I'm guesssing that one of the main reasons why Lunara got a wisp for vision are her base model Warcraft 3 quotes. Just hear these, they are just 1 minute long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GpjsaI4H04

I'm goddamn excited for her now. She is HELLA cute. Like the cutest of them all, for real. I'm in love.

Sakurako=Ayano>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else>>>>>>Shitatsu
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>>124017329
DABU
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>>124017329
Thrall might actually be the best melee character in the game
>>
>>124017429
>>124017435


I read somewhere that he's too similar to Artanis, and he's my most played hero right now, so I was reluctant. I'll try him for a bit and see
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>>124017429
>Thrall never says "Zug Zug" as a joke line

DAMN YOU METZEN
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>>124017570
I haven't played Artanis, but I just realized he's free so I'm going to now.

Will report back whether on he's similar to Thrall or not.
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>>124017372

whenever the fuck they decide to release her
>>123963085
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>>124017713

Just tried Thrall myself. What the fuck is up with that healing, jesus christ.
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>mfw see the same memers in /vg/ for the last 5 months
>still not rank 1
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>>124017987
actually that's always been about the same

the big thing to Thrall is that he has the strongest auto attacks in the game at like every level
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>>124017987
spec for your Q and watch your health go to full as you poke away
for a melee character, thrall has insanely good poke.
>>
>>124018172
>>124018282

It's amazing. I kinda feel like every hero that I've bought is a melee fighter, but I'm going to get him anyway. Thanks
>>
support is objectively the hardest role to carry a team with
sorry morales can't save a valla that dives 1v3
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>>124018640
>wow thanks for the help medic
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he-hey man
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>>124020059
RAIDERS
O
L
L
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>>124017713
I have never felt so ineffectual on a hero as I do on Artanis.

What am I missing about him?
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>>124020129
WHATEVERS CLEVER
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>>124015664
best girl
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>>124020215
LIGHT 'EM UP, MATT!
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>>124020059
raynor looks like a giant fucking noob, anytime I see someone playing him all I can think is 'noob'
>>
>>124020289
Fill 'em full of daylight!
>>
I'll now add Rexxar to Gazlowe tier of shit. Probably he is capable of being useful but everytime i see one of these faggots they play like a ranged carry without damage.
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>>124020361
Tough break, kid
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>>124020380
rexxar's good if the other team focuses his bear
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>>124020380
Rexxar is great, but he suffers from Idiot Player Syndrome.
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>>124018640
>support is objectively the hardest role to carry a team with

Unless you are playing Tassadar
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>>124020536
tass was good between medic release patch and scaling patch

Not so much anymore
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>>124018640
remember the good ol' days when Uther could just say fuck it and stun lock people to death
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>>124020163

He's kinda weak early game, you should be specing for more shield procs at first and have in mind positioning and hitting enemy minions to reduce cooldown

Be careful with his Q since it's very predictable and easy to catch when he returns.

Spam W as much as you can to reduce cooldown on the shields

Also be careful with his E, you can end up being in the middle of the enemy team and get assraped, but it's amazing to get someone into a CC from a teammate

Consider getting his first ult if you find yourself against a team with very fast AA. If not, get the second one, it's not rare to kill someone in a teamfight from the other side of the map

Get the 3-hit talent at 13 and zealot charge at 16, and start destroying people


I'm probably missing a lot of stuff, but basically that
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>>124020308
fuck off Mengsk
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>>124020738

Oh, and when your shields proc, don't use W right away, attack and use it to cancel the animation when you hit something
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>>124020516
This is Jimmy
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>>124020738
Yeah, the 13 and 16 talents seem to help a lot.

Before that though, life is too hard.
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>>124021165
My condom senses.
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>>124020163
>>124020738
Pretty much the other guy said, for level 1 thought even if you're the only tank think about novice oponnet (100% extra damage to anything non-hero with your W) it' gets pretty savage lategame with the 13 talent, i won a few clutch matches in BoE and generally core rushes because at around lvl 20 you do 1500 dmg to the core/inmortal every 4 seconds, plus the basics
Also if you want the yolo build get at lvl 4 the faster CD reduction of your Q when you're at low health (you'll always be anyway) and at 7 shield CD reduction per each hero you hit with your Q (counts both back and forth to the same hero, so you get 8 seconds less per head)

You can also use purifier beam to zone out healers and squishy guys if your team needs it.
as for spear of adun, get it when they have at least 3 AA guys to make it worth, it can turn around teamfights so much it's not even funny

In the end it's all about knowing when to use your Q and W to keep your shields up all times, you can easily do 3v1 to melee dudes in the late game, stuns can shut you down pretty hard so avoid guys like kael'thas in the earlygame

>>124020518
>>124020534
He's pretty good, i still think he needs a sprint at level 13 at least, if someone with a bit of speed boost picks up you're done for unless you get some sick misha charges
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>>124021180

No doubt about it, but it's also really fun
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>>124021429


Stuns and slows are the worst that can happen to Artanis.

And true, novice opponent is amazing and very useful against things like inmortals
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>>124020163
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/artanis#t30C
Basic build.
1: take Amateur Opponent on BoE or you want to go for some early boss kills
10: Pulse against AA heavy, otherwise laser
20: upgrade laser if you took that, shields or blades if you need extra tankiness or damage

Don't hit Q in a fight until 7. Otherwise use it when it's safe on waves or from behind your own wall.
Spam W. It's cheap and Artanis will never run out of mana.
E is tricky to learn how to use. The only way is just to keep testing its limits. Remember the swap and avoid putting yourself in a bad spot.
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>>124020308

nice try Mengsk
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>>124021429
>>124021461
>>124021894
Thanks for the tips.

Ended up winning that game, actually. 13 and 16 talents make him really fun. If only he felt like that for the first 15 levels. Aside from using E to put someone into a korean bodyblock, pre-16 Artanis was awful. Going to try another few games though.

Also, Target Purified is hilarious.
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How many training idle matches does it take to get a hero from level 9 to 10?
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>want a Thrall skin
>don't want to spend money
>can't use master skin without being reminded of that Thall Wedding Quest from Cata

suffering
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>>124020308
Actually you are right but to me it's because of the "tutorial hero" effect.

Just like in League i can't take any Ashe players seriously or in Dota 2 any Sniper players.
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>>124022531
>didn't do that quest
>no idea what you're talking about
>can use master skin
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>>124022238
>Also, Target Purified is hilarious.
>tfw got a quad kill with it while not even being alive
Purifier Beam + a Johanna constantly condmening and punishing the guy it's on = you winning the game
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>>124023006
It's also pretty funny on bad Artys.

>puts laser on me
>right when it comes out he warps me out of with E
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>have a gazlowe on my team
>he is paperform useless as fuck
>still win because our KT shits out damage to substitute
>Gazlowe stats screen: lowest kills, assissts, siege damage, hero damage, xp contribution
Gazlowe is not a hero it's like when you choose to play with a handicap modifier for more challanging experience. Except instead of you some random nigger is choosing it for you.
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>tfw when you cause your team to lose
alright alright, i made a mistake by choosing stage dive. i own up to it already, sue me
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>>124023473
Everybody has those days anon
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fuck me i wish Blizzard would just give Cho'gall to everyone and get rid of that fucking quest already

chat is always filled with "who needs cho'gall?" fucking everyone has him by now, you fucking missed your chance, stop asking
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>>124023473
but why would you do such a thing?
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>>124023473
>picking Stage Dive
kill yourself please :^)
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>>124023473
>not using Stage Dive with Illidan, Falstad, Medic, and Brightwing for sick global ganks
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>>124023473
>misclick a talent/misplay at a crucial point
>say in chat "sorry guys I fucked up, blame me if we lose"
>win
pretty good feel desu
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>>124023892
i made another account to play with to get my last 2 games
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>>124024119
>be a few patches ago
>losing
>"its okay guys, KT will win the game for us at 16"
>16
>"fuck misclicked talent"
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That's a pretty good team you got there pal. It would be a shame if someone would ruin it.
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>>124024348
This happened to me back then but it was twice, I did it missing fission bomb because someone jumped out of a bush and hit me while I was hitting the talent, then at 16 I was surprised again.

The worst part is someone called me out on missing fission bomb too like right as I did it "o-oh sorry yeah that was a misclick". Then of course at 16 "this fucking scrub kt" rip
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post fire husbando
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>killing abathur with purifier beam every time it's off cooldown and he hats someone
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lets save some lives!
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Should i pick up blessed shield on johanna? Every time i do it just feels like i could do better if i had falling sword.
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>>124026172
Yes let's have the main solo tank of the team CC herself and remove her presence from the battlefield while the enemies dive straight for our squishies. But that's okay, because when she lands, a small knock up will be applied to everyone around her and that'll surely keep everyone safe.
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Going to play some QM, I'll be in the /vg/ channel if anyone wants to play with a medic.
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>>124025892
>having vision of him
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>>124024815
Useless against anyone with a brain.

Fortunately people in QM seem to lack exactly that. Keep getting teams that fall for Grav-O-Bomb.
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Just read a tier list saying that Brightwing was tier 1 and that abathur was the best hero in the game. Does this seem accurate?
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Playing rank 1 EU at 3am

>MrVoid is a known troll, saw him on the opposing team in my last three games and he always picked gazlowe and straight up fed, running solo into enemy base style
>tell team to cover tank and heal since he will absolutely not fill
>naz (who the game later confirmed to be braindamaged) ignore this
>we're left with no healer
>in a crazy turn of fate the enemy team however turns to be absolutely awful
>still had to fight tooth and nail all game, every teamfight is a struggle since no heal
>eventually I just start melting people at 20
>kael and me basically winning the game by ourselves by gambling on a boss while rest of the team fights over a shrine

feels fucking great man
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ehehehehe
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Who should I buy next, /v/?
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>>124028720
Tyrande
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>>124028720

Tyrande or Falstad
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>>124028720
you should level your dudes past fucking 1
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>>124028720
no one, level up everyone to 5 first before buying anymore you faggot
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where do you think i would end up if i started playing ranked in solo queue?
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>>124029427
>where do you think i would end up if i started playing ranked in solo queue?
Rank 15 probably
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>>124028909
>>124028915

>Buying a 7000 gold champion with real money

What do you think I am, a fucking idiot?
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>>124029427
i guess this is probably a better screen
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>>124029570

>buying heroes with real money in the first place

You ARE a fucking idiot.
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>>124029570
>Buying a 7000 gold champion with real money
>buying any champion with real money

what the actual fuck dude

are you telling me you've bought all those heroes with real cash and haven't leveled any of them up past 1? the fuck?
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>>124029549
guess that's not terrible
looking at this screen makes me realize i really need to diversify my heroes played though
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>>124029857

They are having their going out of business fire sale if you hadn't noticed. 50% off on EVERYTHING.
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>>124028720
what le fuck
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Artanis get buffed yet?
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>>124030159
>the virtual goods are half off, now it's a great deal!
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>>124022504
a fuck ton the daily cap is 2.25 million
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>bored of everyone
>remembers I have Rexxar
>having fun
>almost as fun as using Syllabear in DotA
>team is fellating me for micro skills
>mfw

Why is Rexxar the only fun thing in this game?
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>>124030462
he probably is still better off than the founders pack people
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>illidan has 20 less attack damage than chen at 20
>he only attacks 33% faster
why is illidan such shit now?
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>>124031362
Chen is just good senpai
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>>124031362
He also heals and lowers cooldowns from auto attacking. Illidan is in a rough spot but it's not because of his damage. It's because he's so easy to counter now.
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>>124031362
Raynor at level 8 has more attack damage than Illidan at level 20, and illidan only attack like 25% faster.
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>enter tomb of the spider queen
>it has an item shop for some reason
>the only items are donuts
>theres a big sign saying 'up next' with a webweaver on it, or occasionally a boss
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>>124031936
I don't think I've seen an Illidan do good damage in months, especially not after the scaling patch.
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>>124032270
>>124032270

Foerest just lost a game with chu8 where he got farmed on illidan and only did 17k damage to chu8s 50k damage. He was doing less damage then the support. I don't know Illidan just seems like garbage right now.
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>>124032270
I've haven't seen Illidan do shit besides feed. Most of the Illidan edgelords seem to have went to latex suit waifu, zeratool or Kerrigan.


I'm also seeing a fuckton of competent Jim and Valla players. What the hell happened? Back when I used to play in July-Early August, everyone using them went complete retard unless they were being carried.
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>>124032043
yeah but raynor is OP right now
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>>124032270
That's because he can't go crazy like he used to because he's so easy to counter.
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>>124033145
Without unstoppable on his abilities he just can't do anything
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>>124032623
Raynor is really good now, so you're probably seeing more players who play him because he's strong rather than because he's babby's first hero. No idea about Valla.
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bets?
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>>124034496
Red, no question. Abathur is easier to carry than Gaz, and he can actually be helpful if played well.
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>matchmaking instantly pops
>get put on team with no assassins and 2 sub-40 players
Blizzard's "functioning" matchmaking
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>>124026747
I really don't understand.

>2 sec stun with blessed shield

>2 sec stun with falling sword but you are up in the air 2 seconds

Like why would you ever pick falling sword? It really makes no sense.
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>>124034640
bad start
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>>124034496
Red. Kael is going to dominate shrines with chain bomb.

Gazlowe actually is decent on this map. Can't compare, though.
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>>124034496
Red
Sylvannas' kit doesnt work on shrine minions
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>>124033376
The only thing that had unstoppable was Q which wasn't used like crazy during fights. It was used as more of a gap closer.
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I can't believe they are making us wait this long for lunara
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>>124034765
>having both Sylv and Gaz

You better hope they let either one split the entire game because you aren't doing shit until you have adv.
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>queue for hero league
>tomb of the spider queen
>fifth pick
>ENEMY TEAM PICKS FIRST
>I heed the voice of elune
>Our team's turn
>OUR TIME HAS COME
>HELL IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME
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>>124035419
>>124034839
>>124034793
>>124034640
kek
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Why is Chu8 so bad at Tyrande? You would think it's impossible to hit a single stun
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>>124035579

holy fuck
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>>124035579
Was their Muradin like legit retarded?
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>>124008281
:(
>>124011125
just wait till that settlement comes senpai
>>124022531
i like thrall, but cata ruined his character. sgt. hammer is the same for me. if she was some badass tank commander like warfield or duke i could get behind playing her, as it stands i hate everything about her thematically.
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>>124035732
>>124035781
Valla kept getting pick off out of position
i don't know wtf Muradin was doing

lol, fastest game i've ever had
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>>124035883
I don't want to play Thrall mainly because of how he has been written from cata onward. I don't mind a mary sue, but when it's Thrall level of mary sue it's unbearable.
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>>124035728

kek
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>>124036197
>I don't want to play Thrall mainly because of how he has been written from cata onward
This is probably the most retarded shit I have ever read.
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>>124036282
>solo support tyrande
>goes that build
sprint is like the worst talent at 13 too why would he pick her if he can't play her?
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>>124035883
>Hammer is some generic chubby chick instead of a strong womyn tank driver
>Raynor doesn't have a teal skin
>Diablo sounds like Dave the Intern voiced him and his spikes are the wrong color
>ETC isn't voiced by Corpsegrinder
>Artanis is a High Templar but he has a Zealot's kit- meanwhile Fenix cries into his beer all alone
HoTS' design can be really fucking bad sometimes
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>>124036282
>Those Jaina talents
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>>124036851
frostbolt build is op according to some people in here

LOL
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>>124036197
You gotta admit, green jesus master skin looks baller as hell, the anal beads could be a bit smaller tho
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>>124036580
Heres some more fuck ups
>Lunara is some shitty dryad they just made up instead of adding Cenarius
>Murky is a piece of shit baby with a fucking diaper instead of a cool normal murloc who wields a spear and stabs people
>Barbarian is a fucking female, yes a barbarian is FEMALE. what the fuck is that shit
>Medic turned into a spic for diversity. Looks like shes a fucking rat who just got done eating a burrito.
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>>124037107
The dank purple is pretty good
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>>124037119
>Fans make a big deal out of Morales being spanish
>She's the whitest spic imaginable in appearance with the faintest accent put to a microphone
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>>124037119
>Barbarian is a fucking female, yes a barbarian is FEMALE. what the fuck is that shit
Were there people who actually played the male barbarian in D3? If anything I thought the crusader was going to be male, I like Johanna though, but the barbarian should have definitely been female.
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>>124037119
>Barbarian is a fucking female, yes a barbarian is FEMALE. what the fuck is that shit
One of the most popular barbarian characters is female. And Sonya is a reference to her. Also D3 barb female is a qt.
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>>124037119
Now correct me if i'm wrong here, since i haven't played D3 myself and only watched a dude playing it, But isn't the male barb for D3 the SAME one from D2? i mean he had more history already, i'm not one of them but i guess more people could click with it, now if they decided that all the other nephalem are girls i wouldn't complain. But seems silly.
I know it's supposed to keep the gender gap tight, but they hade more options
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>>124037357
>>124037349
Barbarians are always male. By definition a female cannot be a barbarian. Blizzard fucked up.
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>>124037119
The most popular diablo streamer mained a female barbarian, kripp, and still uses her as his icon.
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>>124037536
The barb in D2 stayed at the place in Act 6 to protect his people. The new barb is a different one entirely
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>>124037673
I looked up on old forum posts, apparently it was meant to be the same but later changed on.
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>>124037536
They planned to do it, but the idea was scrapped because they'd have to seriously alter his dialogue, since he already knows many characters. So he's some other old barbarian.
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>>124037119
>Lunara is some shitty dryad they just made up instead of adding Cenarius

There has been a female dryad in both dotas, she was an iconic night elf unit as well. Cenarius was a guy that got axed by a single orc in one mission. I'm sure they will still add him, but it makes sense they added a dryad unit to hots.
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Seriously we could have had this and instead we get Sonya.
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>>124038008
Lunara gets some spotlight in Legion now, as for cenarius, don't deer on it, furion already has the kit of w3 KotG
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>>124038014
I still think sonya's art better
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>>124038014
We'll get the D2 barb eventually and he'll probably have the old man skin.
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>>124038008
Cenarius had a hero unit built around him. So fuck off with your generic shit unit you little Blizzdrone. They are fucking up the game with their meme shit.
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>>124038014
>tfw
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>>124037927
he was supposed to be the D2 barb, but partway through the development they realized it makes no sense for any of the game's dialogue to be said to someone who'd already fought and killed 5/7 Great Evils and didn't want to write new stuff specifically for him, so they changed it
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>>124037656
>Buy Diablo 2
>Excited as shit, pop it open and install
>Get to character select
>Eyes widen
>They made...the sorcerer...a sorceress obviously to pander to SJWs
>Uninstall the game, flush the disc down my toilet, and shitpost on /v/
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>>124038271
Cenarius is a meme demi-god who got killed by one orc.
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>play brightwing
>illidan with an abathur hat is in trouble in a 1.5v2
>teleport to him after pinging that I was coming
>abathur has full health now thanks to the teleport shield
>illidan doesn't even notice I teleported in and flees despite favorable numbers
>leaves me to die
Did I get paired up with wood league? We would have easily won that fight had he stayed. I honestly wasn't expecting someone to just leave a fight that favorable. How does one not notice brightwing teleporting to you?
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>>124038236
Yeah they are going to add the D2 heroes see >>123959250

That was from Blizzcon, these are the heroes they want to get in.
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>>124038271
Nobody gives a fuck about cenarius or your other literally who legends
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>>124038645
Where the FUCK is Maiev???????
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>>124038716
maybe next year
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>>124038479
He didn't die.

>>124038645
A lot more care about Cenarius than generic shit. Go drown yourself in your memes you little blizzshill.
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>>124038716
Zeratul has her whole kit at least in basics, blink, his q is fan of knives, and his W is pretty much a improved version of sinester strike.
Hopefully she gets mega pumped with mad powerz in legion and she can get in
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>>124038795
Does anyone care about Cenarius? You saw him like one time in WC3 where he was massacred by one dude, then I guess he ressed in Cata to do absolutely nothing there.
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>>123959250
With the way they release heroes i'm sure my son will be able to play these when hes 50.
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>>124022964
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>>124038931
>what is War of the Ancients

Just another idiot memer who only played memecraft 3 and world of memecraft. You kids need to be PURGED.
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>>124039173
fuck off Richard A. Knaak
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>>124038432
>buy Diablo 1
>hyped as fuck, get my friends together for a lan party and start the game
>character select screen pops up and I can feel a blood vessel rupturing inside my left eye
>my friends scream in terror and start chewing on the lan cables
>those worthless commie kikes at Blizzard made a sorcerer - a class associated with high intelligence - a worthless nigger
When will those bolshevik jews stop pushing their multiculty agenda?
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>>124039106
Oh fuck don't remind me of that shit what were they even thinking

You know the only female orc we will ever get will be aggra and she is known for being thrall's wife.

>>124039173
To be fair that wasn't in any of the games, you needed to read the books to know about him there. No one reads wow books though because they are just bad fanfictions, they just look it up important info on wowpedia. Med'an when?
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>>124039173
>muh time traveling orc
>muh time traveling humans
>muh summoning raptor armies
war of the ancients was a meme book
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>>124039417
I'd take Med'an over Lunara.
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>>124038795
>A lot more care about Cenarius than generic shit.

No they don't. dota and lol prove it. If you want to know what people give half a fuck about, I can promise you it isn't 20 year old 2d sprites grandpa
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>>124036197
I like playing as Thrall in HoTS because here he is mostly designed around the old Reign of Chaos, smacking dudes with Doomhammer days. Of course that goes out the window with the master skin.
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>>124039643
I wouldn't. I would Valeera though.
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>>124039643
memes
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>>124039818
People aren't playing Dota or League for the characters they are playing for the gameplay. This game is supposed to be about the characters, not just adding generic shit.
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>>124040047
A character that represents all dryads is fine, if she was named mylune I'm sure you wouldn't care.
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>>124040047
So just replace Lunaras model with Cenarius would make you happy? A spear throwing cenarius that jumps around and slows people, but has low health? Is that what you really want?
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>>124040553
She poisons people doesn't she? Not slows.
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>>124040647
She has a slow ability too
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>>124040553
Is Cenarius even a Dyrad? His dad was a moose or something.
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>>124040191
Mylune is a nobody as well. That's like adding Blizrik Buckshot. He's named, but hes not at all important or involved in anything. Nobody even knows who he is.

>>124040553
No. Give Cenarius a skillset suited for him and stop wasting time making skillsets for generic shit. That's not what this game is about. I could just go play Dota 2 or League for generic characters.
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>>124040816
Cenarius fathered the centaur and the dyrad so who knows.
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>>124040816
He is the father of dryads and keepers of the grove, but yeah he's like half moose, drayds are half deer. Shit is magic.

>>124040870
People want a dryad unit, you actually interact with dryads far more in both WC3 and WoW far more than you interact with cenarius. Her skill set is good for a dryad, which was an iconic night elf unit.
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>>124041234
Centaurs are bastard offspring of a keeper of the grove, keepers are the real sons of cenarius.
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>>124041234
Cenarius fathered the Keepers of the Grove
it was the first Keeper of the Grove that fathered the Centaur
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ok, fuck all this shit

i've been a Blizzard Gamerâ„¢ my whole life except for Warcraft. i hate orcs and elves and shit, fucking boring as fuck. but now that i'm hooked onto Heroes ,and it's clearly obvious that there aren't going to be many Starcraft or Diablo heroes (clearly better than WC, btw), where the fuck do i go to actually learn the lore of these warcraft characters you guys keep talking about

maybe if i read up on these literally whos, i might actually start to give a fuck about them getting added into Heroes. like Lunara and Graymane, literally do not give a fuck about either of them mostly because i don't know who the fuck they are.

where can an anon go to get learned?
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>>124041470
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Portal:Main
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>>124041470
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Portal:Main
it won't help you with Lunara since she doesn't actually exist, but you've got the rest all here
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>>124041470
>mfw i read my own post and realize i say fuck too much
fuck me, i'm mad from a few bad games, shouldn't let it out on you guys, mb
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>>124041241
>People want a dryad unit

No actually they don't. Not one person has ever asked for a Dryad unit. Everyone asks for lore figures and several people asked for Cenarius and we get generic shit Dryad. Thanks Blizz. I can't wait for more generic shit to ruin this game since apparently you are all fine with it. The sole thing that made this game actually stand out a bit is being taken away. Maybe we should have replaced Chen with Grizzledurk the Brewdrinker and replace Arthas with Ghouliax the lord of ghouls since thats all Blizzard wants to do now apparently.
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>>124041735
What dryad would you replace Lunara with?
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>>124041846
Myrune? Although she is more of a lover, not a fighter I guess.
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>>124041846
I wouldn't put a Dryad in the game to begin with unless there was a prominent and popular one in lore, and there isn't a single one.
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>>124041846
Grommash.
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>>124041735
>Not one person has ever asked for a Dryad unit.
That's not true at all. Dryad unit is in both dotas as well as an iconic nelf unit in WC3. It makes sense they would add her to this game. What is better is that they are able to expand the lore of wow in hots with these characters, we know who the eldest son of cenarius is, Zaetar, we don't know who the eldest daughter is until now. She appears in legion as Cenarius and Ysera are corrupted in the emerald dream and malfurion is captured.

>>124042152
I don't think she would really have a battle kit.

>>124042154
You said replace chen with "Grizzledurk the Brewdrinker", so obviously you think there is a better dryad for the dryad since cenarius is not a dryad she isn't taking his place.
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>>124042195
Cenarius is such a punk ass bitch he died to one orc. What kind of demi-god is that? Embarassing
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what streamers do you guys like to watch?
i'm gonna start doing ranked soon but i have no idea how the game is played at a high level
>>
>>124042195
There is a pretty good chance Garrosh is coming after Genn, maybe not right after him but he is coming.
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>>124042598
Chu8 is okay, but he complains a lot every time he loses. He believe the only reason he ever loses is because of comps, never one team is just better.
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>>124042646
Is he going to be an unstoppable rage machine that tears through everybody while screaming showing why they call him Hellscream?
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>>124042646
I think they already said they are working on Gul'dan, not sure they are going to throw orc overload in so soon.
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>>124042402
She is though because of silhouette bullshit that they talked about. They don't want 2 horse people cause they assume we are all retarded and can't tell them apart. You are missing the point also, regardless of if Cenarius could take Lunara's place she is taking up a spot that could have been devoted to any actual good character.

>dryad unit is in both dotas

You realize Dota 2 is just an upgrade of Dota? Dota used pretty much every damn unit they could since they had so many. You can't fault them since they were just a custom mod. Blizz on the other hand has artists and hundreds of good characters to choose from and still they choose to just make something up.
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>>124008069
Wow please don't name drop me in your retarded poorfag posts.
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>>124042745
i'm watching him now actually since i saw him mentioned earlier ITT
he doesn't seem like too bad of a complainer yet
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>>124041567
>>124041627
ok damn, Muradin's pretty fucking badass

Graymane seems like a bitch, but according to his lore, he's been forced to grow up and start being less of a selfish dick, so that's cool

gonna read up on Illidan and Sylvanas now
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>>124043337
Make sure you read about the literal legend Anduin Lothar so you don't grow up retarded like everyone else in this general.
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>>124042949
She is taking up a spot for a dryad, we have too many humanoids already, it's good to get crazier looking characters in there. It's representing the dryad unit, which people like and have interacted with far more than they have with Cenarius from one mission in WC3 or one quest in Cata.

He will probably make it in eventually, but it's good they throw in representational unities.
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This guy could have a very unique skillset. Why aren't they adding him?
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>>124043124
He only complains a lot when he's behind, right now he's in a one sided stomp.
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>>124043337
>ok damn, Muradin's pretty fucking badass
one of his unit quotes in WC3 is
>my older brother Magni is king of the dwarves
>my younger brother Brann is a renowned explorer
>if I didn't kick so much arse, things would be a bit awkward

also, Greymane was cooler when he was Trump and not butthurt werewolf loser
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>>124043406
Lothar is in the warcraft movie (as seen here), so I'm sure they will be adding him around that time to cross promote. Maybe you will get a free lothar for seeing the movie in theaters.
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>>124043474
Plenty of crazy looking characters that actually exist in lore. And like I said no one wanted the "dryad unit" until they announced Lunara and you all started fapping. The only generic shit i've seen requested is Starcraft units.
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there's always one....

bets?
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>>124043608
i like streamers who get mad but beat themselves up rather than blaming external factors
like when i used to play league and i watched the rain man
when he was going through a shit streak, he started calling himself the trash man and wore a trash bag on stream
god damn that dude was hilarious
>>
>>124043805
As long as they make him like his classic appearance and not try to release some movie version of him that would be cool.
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>>124044015
>rainman
fuck I miss that guy. What happened to him? Does he still stream?
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>>124043858
>And like I said no one wanted the "dryad unit"

I'll say I've been wanting a dryad unit and have posted in this general about it a while ago, multiple times, and have seen others asking for it.
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How about we stop arguing about Warcraft you nerdlords and get some more NOT WARCRAFT shit in.

Even after Artanis there's not a lot of Starcraft in, and some more Diablo stuff would be good as well. Or, even better throw in Blackthrone already.
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>>124044284
No they were just all you. She sounds fun though so whatever.
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>>124044330
Gui Montag and Alan Schezar when desu
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>>124044253
no idea, i haven't followed league since like 2012
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>>124041735
senjinn here

my opinion holds a lot of weight here on /hotsg/, so i feel confident in saying you are objectively wrong. did you never play wc3? dryad were iconic, excellent units with personality. i'm on the record as being opposed to OC characters like sgt. hammer or ETC being in the game, but that's only because there are better, already established alternative options representing those units. night elf women were supposed to be ferocious, instead we get stuck with bimbo sluts like tyrande with jamaican accents. lunara might not be a night elf, but her playstyle seems better representative of how a night elf woman should fight. hopefully with her and maiev they can do the race some justice after castrating them in WoW

also, malfurion took keeper of the grove's kit, i can't even imagine what they would give him
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>>124044330
Where is that diablo support blizz?
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>>124044657
they shouldn't of made Monk a support. They should of use Zoltun Kulle and have him be based around mass CC with time control spells.
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>>124044361
Yeah okay, but just so you know people

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/search?q=dryad&f=post&forum=14065568

Just try not to say "no one wanted a dryad", when that was not the case.
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>>124044623
>my opinion holds a lot of weight here

Your opinion means nothing. You're simply the laughing stock of the general and you're only known cause you are so autistic you blog about your fucked up life here of all places.

>>124044284
Ok so you're a loser who faps to dryads. Well done man. There might be one other guy who will fap with you.

>>124044330
Honestly i'd rather have Diablo or Starcraft characters than worthless trash like Lunara.
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>>124045050
I don't understand why people think their opinion speaks for everyone, there are more than just one or two people that wanted the iconic dryad unit from WC3 I'm sorry to say, that's the reason they actually added it.
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>>124044907
Theres like one thread about a dryad and the rest are discussing Lunara. Try searching Cenarius. You can also pretty much search any lore character and see the demand is much much higher.
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>>124043872
hammer or medic can just afk and they should still win
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>>124045692
you'd think that...

then the Kerrigan feeds me delicious seasoned stacks
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>>124045050
my opinion is less an opinion in the traditional sense and more a stating of facts.
>i want malfurion with deer legs
>another boring support character that wants to protect nature
>instead of a badass dryad assassin
i can still hear "is there trouble?" in my head, and it is absolutely endearing. we already have one shitty nature-guardian mary sue in malfurion, we don't need two.

are you even rank 1? post hotslogs. people who aren't r1 shouldn't even be allowed to make suggestions.
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Female protoss hero when?
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>>124046031
>people who aren't r1 shouldn't even be allowed to make suggestions.
this is the truth
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>>124046084
>Vorazun never.
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>>124045353
Even ancient of war has more results than dryad.

>>124046031
>a stating of facts
>lists all his shit opinions

Go outside and get hit by a car again or whatever. Make sure they are going fast enough to kill you this time too.
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>>124046031
That's true, what would Cenarius' kit even be? Would he just be another malf support? Maybe grow a tree to heal people around it or something.
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>>124046282
>we want the tumblr audience
nice try Anita
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>>124044657
You just had a huge event that added 4 decent to great heroes and two Diablo-themed maps. What more do you fucking want?

Meanwhile, StarCraft fans only get two shit characters to mark a major game release before Blizzard goes back to shitty Warcraft characters that nobody wants
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>>124046323
>Even ancient of war has more results than dryad.
No it doesn't

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/search?q=%22ancient+of+war%22&f=post&forum=14065568
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>>124046282
>not a qt like selendis
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>>124046381
>ohhhh god we might have to think for 10 minutes to make a kit for cenarius
>alright boys just scrap em we'll make some oc
>she throws spears and flips ok done easy

You guys are just like the devs at Blizzard.
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>>124046612
>ancient of war
>55 results
>dryad
>36 results
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>>124046656
I liked that girl they resed on the ship that had the circle and her braids in the circle more. She was kind of cool
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>>124046813
It has 4, you have to quote it because it will omit of in the search. Do you know how searches work? When you search for ancient of war as opposed to "ancient of war" you won't get the full ancient of war name in the results.

Are you just pretending or something?
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>>124046323
i really detest lowering myself to converse with a non-rank 1. i'm glad cenarius wasn't added, i want you to know that he will probably never be added. he was a shitty plot device in wc3 to get the orcs corrupted and act as a tutor to malfurion. we will get a centaur character long before we get suenarius, and rightfully so. he'll even be an OC, but you know what? he'll be more interesting than cenarius ever could be.
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>>124046676
The only thing OC about her is she has a name, she is the dryad unit in WC3. If you played that game you would know that the dryad unit existed there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GpjsaI4H04
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>>124015664

you're close nigga keep it up
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>>124047283
aw shit, senpai noticed me
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>>124047010
>OC centaur
>not the Centaur Pariah
>not any of the khans
>not Barak "Obama" Kodobane
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>>124047003
>gets proven wrong
>but no you aren't doing it right!!!!!

you're wrong. keep on fapping to your dryad shit.

>>124047010
maybe you should find yourself a job instead of worrying about your hots rank.
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>>124046814
She was a qt and I bet her feet are really soft, but what would she even do in HotS? She's basically a living library.
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>>124047185
>for the trees!
:3

i forgot that line
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>>124047010
What did Cenarius even do in WC3? He showed up for one mission, grew the forest a little and then was killed by an orc who wanted some lumber and then never relevant again.
>>
Alright I've got 10 blizzard bux left, which of these 10ks should I clean up on with the sale

>Artanis, Azomodan, Butcher, TLV, Morales, Nazeebo, Nova
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>>124047907
Vikings, the rest are literally meme heroes for memers
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>>124047620
Are you legitimately brain dead? 51 of your results don't contain the sequence of words "ancient of war". They will most likely be posts that contain the words ancient and war scattered around the post, but not in order since you aren't doing a proper search for a phrase.

I really didn't know people who could use a computer didn't know how to search for thing.
>>
>>124046656
>Does nothing but be Amon's little bitch for the entire story.

Yeah what a good character.
>>
>>124048107
nigga i only said cute
>>
>>124047627
She could float around so she had to have some magic, maybe an mc type of cc too.

>>124047907
Doesn't 10 blizzard bux get you 2 heroes? Get Memezeebo and memekings
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>>124047812
he was a plot device to get the orcs to drink demon blood. he served no other purpose. he doesn't do anything in WoW, either. he might have done something in war of the ancients but knaak is so hilariously bad that i never read more than a book by him. nature demigods make for really boring characters, even malfurion is a dull, predictably stupid character.
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>>124048754
Need more one note plot device characters in hots
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>>124043689
So muradin is a NEET.
But have you seen his nose?

>>124044015
Foe does that, but no way near to that extent.
He's pretty good. Natty, like orange wall kripp.

>>124046031
>>124046107
>Rank means anything
Number of games played is the most reliable stat in my experience.
1000-2000+ games, I'll give you a chance.
Any less, it's just breeze coming out your mouth

>>124046282
[Picture related]
>Spoiler required
>>
Why don't they let you level characters past 20? I can't stop playing one character, but I feel I should be getting experience on other characters to get like level 9 gold. They should give some benefit to playing on a max level character.
>>
>>124047627
She had a Templar blade.
>>
>>124048941
What if you have 2k games played and couldn't hit rank 1?
>>
>>124049147
I thought she was a judicator. Templar aren't really the book-reading sort.
>>
>>124049082
They used to only go up to 10. So maybe they'll change it in the future.
>>
>>124049290
some people might just not have the mechanical skill even if they know the game
or maybe they just play qm
or maybe they're like horsepants and play meme heroes, but aren't as good as horsepants
>>
>>124049429
When she cuts off her hair thing she does it with a Templar blade that she summons.
>>
Alright.. So, is it just me or is this game rather.. easy compared to other assfaggots? I just started playing (came from IC, DOTA, and LOL), and I find it's enjoyable because of the simplicity, but rage worthy because of how brain dead the player base can be.
>>
>>124049875
Well yeah. It removes most of the laning phases. Gets rid of items for talents and no more last hitting.

That alone makes it easier.
>>
Does this shitshow have an offsite archive? I think I might have been the first posting about getting a daughter of cenarius
Glad blizz didn't listen to the cenarius crowd the game needs more for daddy
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>>124050048
It doesn't go back very far, just a few days. I just suggested a dryad unit a long time ago.
>>
>>124049875

What do you define by "easy"? You can find a lot of people struggling to even get to rank 1, let alone play on high MMRs. It is surprisingly complex if you add on map mechanics.
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>>124050174
me too senpai. Just wondering about a real archive like .moe
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>>123985619
Hows about all the aspects?

>Neltharion for tank
>Ysera for support
>Alex for assassin
>Nozdormu specialist
>Malygos Assassin
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>>124051205
Fedorabro asked about the aspects, specifically Ysera at blizzcon and they said yeah probably.
>>
>>124049290
Rank doesn't mean shit.

At least with 2k games you can see the player make strategic moves that work with the flow of the game.
Even if they aren't good good, you can work with them as a teammate and they're open to quick one-line strats.

>Trap
>Def
>Rotate when you can
>Soak
>End
>Care

Fat fucking chance a guy with 400-600 game can't manage his own shit, let alone act for teamwide or gamestate actions.
It's like, you see someone with 1-2k+ games and it's like "that's my bro right there, he'll help me herd these plebs".
In my experience anyway.
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post em /hotsg/
tell me why you are shit at your worst map
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>>124052831
49% on bhb
my team does not grasp the concept of coins
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>>124046381
>not posting MMR
Why do you post a pro player's map statistics that are probably skewed by team league and 5 man QMs and not yours?
>>
>>124053131
What does that have to do with the post you quoted?
>>
>>124051205
no more elfs
dragons only pls
>>
>>124053325
We need more elfs
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>>124052831
43% dragon shire.
Dragons are scary and I'm shit.
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>>124052831
i just can't seem to get a team that works together on Cursed Hollow

everything else is fine or i can specifically point to a mistake that i made on my own, but not Cursed Hollow, i just can't figure out wtf is going wrong with it

teammates all over the place, our muradins always diving their backline and our squishies getting blown up

if i tank, then my dps is terrible and end up pathing around shit for 8 seconds during a fight, or they all don't commit and i'm left stunned, slowed, and beaten to shit

i just don't know man, i like the idea of the map, but fuck it, i can't seem to figure things out
>>
>>124054957
well if it makes you feel better, with only 63 games you can attribute that to having bad luck

it would probably even out more with more games played
>>
Is Lunara really next week? Blizzard....
>>
>>124055060
iono, it's definitely my weakest map

for Dragon, i know exactly what i'm failing at, it's just taking a lot longer to figure out how to get the rotations and merc camps properly in order to hold both shrines at the same time

getting better with it though, it used to be around 30% like Cursed Hollow was

and as much as i'd like to attribute it to bad luck, almost 30% win rate speaks way more about me than just bad luck, i need to read up on more strats to play Hollow better, or maybe try playing some other heroes than my mains, because they haven't had much success
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bets?
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>>124055484
No team has tyrande so it doesn't matter
>>
>>124055484
red
nova and stitches will eat your downy teammates alive
>>
>>124055484
nova/thrall could be a tag team so lets go with them
>>
>>124055484

Blue has a better comp. Red has MOOSELOBSTER. It's pretty fucking even.
>>
>>124055125
dustin tweeted that he couldn't say when she would be out
>>
New Li Li thread plz
>>
>game so ded we will never ever see a new thread
b-but it's not even out of beta yet ;_;
>>
>>124056254
>tfw at work on phone, can't make fun cute thread
>>
>>124056385
no plz....
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>>124055560
>>124055673
>>124055838
>>124055990

sorry boys, turns out memeslug can be credit to team after all
>>
new

>>124057629
>>124057629
>>124057629
>>
>>124043337
>Sylvanas
Just let me save you the trouble and give you a quick summary

>Arthas invades
YOU WILL NEVER GET PAST OUR DEFENSES
>Arthas breaks through first line of defense
YOU THINK THATS MY FINAL FORM?!
>NO. This is.
>Arthas turns her into a banshee

The end. The rest is ARTHAS ARTHAS ARTHAS ARTHAS and THE FORSAKEN NEEDS TO PROCREATE.
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