/ssbg/ - Super Smash Bros. General

>>124049561
>>124049570

Isn't it supposed to be the last all smash broadcast on december 3rd, right?

F

>>124049726
>Dec 3rd

Again, source?

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post PM webms

>>124049726
No date was ever given, it just said "another direct in december"

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Snake for Smash when?

https://soundcloud.com/gboon/sets/a-bunch-of-keifer-sutherlands-venom-snake-lines

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>>124049773

>>124049747

I guess the stuff about game award could be a rumor I guess? I thought it was fact. Everyone at my locals gave me this exact date for some reason.

>>124049789

I guess so

>>124049743
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>>124049773

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>>124049773

PM team is currently working on Smash 4 Tournament Edition.

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>>124049773

>>124050390
source

http://www.gamnesia.com/news/project-m-is-ceasing-development-effective-immediately

Can someone explain this to me? Why would they dropped everything like a rock if they did it on their own accord? Seems like a load of bull.

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>>124050390
Kek, yeah right, I bet theyve had enough of all the legal shenanigans and C&D shitposting, no way theyre touching another Nintendo game ever again

>>124049773

>>124050540
Yeah its all very fishy and shady, people are suspecting it has something to do with their next project and wanting to be completely seperated from PM so they can move on with their future or something. It feels like a middle finger to the community since they dont explain anything or even give people a last chance to DL it officially from their site (though luckily now people have been putting up some 3.6 links again)

>>124050540
they probably signed an agreement to not talk about it in exchange for not actually getting taken to court

>>124050540
>>124050650
>implying the devs are lashing out at the fans

you're both retarded. they clearly just got shut down by nintendo, else they would simply stop development and leave the site up.

they stopped hosting the files because they got C&D'd.

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>>124049773

>>124050749
>>124050764

Why outright lie and say that didn't happen though, wouldn't it just be best to say nothing?

Also if this is nintendos doing, why now? I'm sure they've know for years.

>>124050540
There's definitely something going on behind the scenes here. Whether or not they were forced, or this is a decision that somebody higher up on the team made without informing other people, or there was behind-the-scenes discord that lead to all this, there's SOMETHING people aren't telling us.

I'd almost definitely call it a C&D except the timing makes no sense. Why would Nintendo shut them down now and not earlier?

>>124050929
refrence a fucking lawyer in their blog post
they're not saying anything in the thread on the PM subreddit
no more downloads
most likely a C&D

>>124050885
I've heard of shit like this happening before Powerslave EX and it's likely they either CAN'T talk about... or are being "advised" to not talk about it.

>>124050885
because theres no other explanation and if they dont outright deny it they might be held accountable for people figuring it out

and because nintendo
when have they not been 10 years behind the curve on anything
or maybe it has something to do with them adding new characters

>>124050929
If it was a C&D, those usually happen
>Right at the start of a publicized project
>When a project is picking up major popularity and/or money
>When the company needs to take something else out right before doing something with the IP themselves
>>124051147
It it was, there's nothing stopping them from saying Nintendo's involved.

>>124051248
Technically Nintendo could've included a gag order as part of the C&D. I don't know if that's actually legal, but if I was a project M dev I probably wouldn't want to actually have to go to court and find out, so it'd be easier to just go along with it.

Explain that shit.

I countered your up B and I somehow died.

would you make project /ssbg/ with me

>>124051931
I have no idea but my sides left me

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>>124051931
So what character

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why are there no old fucks in smash

>>124052228
technically kirby is 3000 years old

>ssbg is full of pm cocksuckers
I hope this is just an unusual raid an dnot the norm.

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>>124052228

GG's Q

Had fun with the Mario/Pikachu matchup

>>124052225
I was Ike and he was ZSS. He up aired me to the top out of view, I countered the up B It landed because Ike said "your open" We both somehow went flying and I died.

>>124051931
Good games Horny, fun Pika practice. I don't know exactly what it is that Mario beats the rat out on though, since Esam and other Pika mains say he wins the matchup.

>>124052225
>me using ZSS he's using Ike
>I up air him to the top of the blast zone
>go for a boost kick, he counters which connects but doesn't hit me and I kill him anyway somehow
So just ZSS things

>>124050462
Sethlon is my Roy hero.

>>124052387
Yeah, people should be good goys and only play official smash games :)

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Does anyone want to fight me?

>>124050885
>Y-Y-Y-YOUR JUST LYING!!!!

sure thing, babydoll.

>>124052228
because sakurai is a shotacon

>>124052732
I can, host up a room. Hope I still have you added.

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>>124052817
Based Sakurai, more shotas and fuckboys please

>>124052861

Hosting now

>>124052670
It's too bad he can't get results in Sm4sh, his PM Roy is god tier.

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n*gger did you seriously just taunt when you took my stock despite the fact that you're @ 80% on your last stock and you couldn't even KO me until 170%

baka senpai

melee/pm netplay anyone? might be short

>>124052902
>tfw I killed off Wolt because he had an A support with Roy instead of Lilina
One of the few times in FE where I didn't give a shit about losing a unit.

>faggots who try to suicide kill you in any way
>Yoshi shitters who shit you off the edge
Why exactly is this allowed

>Some characters can wall jump and live indefinitely on the side of the stage with no penalty
WHY is this allowed?

>Some characters are way better than others

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS ALLOWED?!!!!?!!!

>>124053121
>pm
F

>>124053310
Butthurt about a Ganondorf, I see.

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>>124053310

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVkKh82gHoE

>/ssbg/

Someone make a webm of bizzarro utilting eikelmann with nintendo's logo on bizz and PM's logo on eikelmann.

>>124053556
100% cancer

>b-but it's hard to p-pull off!!!
Yeah fucking right

fuck off kid

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ANTi is the niggerest of niggers

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>>124053242
Please don't bully Wolt

>>124053692
It's not hard to pull off. It just requires your opponent to be a complete fucking idiot.

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>>124053692

>>124052804
that's some pretty bad reading comprehension

>>124053795
I agree with this anon.

>>124053692
The joke is the shared stock being lost on 2 seconds. I'm the dedede there and I find this funny and retarded now that I remembered this moment

>>124053692
It's people like you that make me happy to play ganondorf.

>>124053772
Sorry Wolt. I liked you, but OTP > Bro for life

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>>124053692
You could like I don't know stay away from ledge?

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>>124053987
>not both

>>124053121
sure, I might lag though I'm downloading maplestory

>>124053754

WATCH ACE

hes one of those "black people who think he ain't a nigger" niggers

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>>124049773

>>124054145
I really hope you're not falling for that "Reboot is great!" lie.

Reminder that there are actual butthurt PM devs lurking this thread due to an extreme case of cognitive dissonance.

>>124054687
The PM devs don't actually seem that butthurt from what I've read of their posts. I'm actually amazed by the sheer lack of butthurt in this thread, I guess the PM fanbase really did die after it lost twitch and the tournaments, huh.

>>124054687

i'd be butthurt too, if i'd spent hundreds of hours on something that was suddenly stripped away, because i operated under the illusion that i was protected by imaginary laws.

Are you hype?
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/318599272/smash-dlc-collection-4%20.

>>124054926
I don't think the PM devs were ever under the impression that they had any legal protection. They always said they'd shut down immediately if Nintendo ever even suggested anything because they're just a guys doing this for fun and it's not worth the legal battle. It's just the fanbase who tried to make up laws that protected it so they could convince themselves that its existence didn't dangle by a thread.

>>124055034

that's a very good point.

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>>124055187

>>124055187
>we are going to be taking legal action against nintendo, we're all getting paid soon and will be pooling our funds for a lawyer.

I actually laughed pretty hard at this, thanks anon.

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>>124055187

this put a genuine smile on my face anon. thank you.

>>124055019
Pretty sure that's just Gamestop being late on the Mario Maker map DLC pack

>>124055187
I can't laugh because people actually, genuinely, are posting this right now. It's too real to be funny.

so who's going to walmart at midnight tomorrow/later today to try and snag xenoblade?

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GGs Nagalfar

Anyone else want to fight?

>>124055376
fuck off jontron

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>>124055405
GGs, gotta scram for now. Good stuff, pal.

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>>124055187

>>124055412
>jontron

i don't get it

>>124055540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCgsfZWMzHs

>>124055540
meme shouting rapid-zoom in youtube man who makes 'funny' jokes about amiibos

>>124055540
le jedi walmart shill

>>124055596

i'm surprised anyone actually watched this far enough to make that reference. i enjoy some of jontron's videos, but you bet your titties that i skipped every single "professional" one he's made, with full sets/costumes/etc.

i only said walmart because that's the only place i can get a copy, here in buttfuck, midwestern USA

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I have no idea if this is real or not but I've seen it posted a couple times and at the very least it doesn't contradict anything that I know of.

>>124055789

i hope this is true. i didn't think nintendo would eat the popular backlash created by shutting down project meme

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>>124055789
what credibility does Project_Truth have? Or is he just parroting what he's read elsewhere?

>>124056098
None. None of his accounts existed before PM got shut down, and he's done nothing but post/retweet that post/image over and over on reddit/v/twitter. So there's absolutely no reason to believe him beyond if you think what he says makes sense or not.

>>124054145
you host

>>124056453
0ebf6ff5

>>124056453
865e4320

>>124056098
>Tink with a non-cartoony face

I am triggered

>>124055789
Hylian (smashboards admin/pmdt guy) debunked this in a the pm social thread on smash boards.

This is so fucked. Like it's fine that they're dumping it but not releasing lyn and knuckles and at the very fucking least the handful of costumes they were teasing a week ago actually pisses me off.

>>124058712

it's clearly out of their control.

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>Play against someone with a female mii and name
>They suck

>>124059180

generally speaking, girls are bad at video games.

we even have 2 girls in /ssbg/ (alice/steph), and they're pretty bad.

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>>124059180
>they play zelda or palutena
>they run away the entire match and refuse to approach even when down a stock

>>124059421
That's exactly what she did. Sat on the edge spamming Zelda's side B and then Up B'ing directly into my shield every time I was in range.

>>124059246


so should I try to play against them then?

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>Guy's tag is "PLZBLOWME"
>Go DDD and hold B
>He doesn't play along

>>124059640
what is it about vagina that makes someone incapable of skill

>>124060307
He said blow not suck

>>124060382
I changed my tag to "I CAN SUCK" so he should've known though

>>124060326
Not totally true. There is some chick i've seen on Xanadu streams who is very talented with zss

there are some good female SF players too

>>124060814
ZSS is braindead though, anyone can do well with her.

>>124060814
>officer jenny
>female

>>124061198
Go win a national with her, I'll wait.

>>124061198
Maybe at a low level, getting tourney results aint easy

>>124061224
oh shit is she not a female?

>>124061198
>hurrr zero skill spamus
/v/ scrub stay in /v/ please
maybe if you spent less time bitching about characters and actually played the game you coud have some skill too

>>124061381

>playing a children's party game competitively/professionally

lol

>>124061494
waaaah

>>124061381
>you aren't doing well unless you win a national

lol

>>124061549
>playing a children's party game competitively/professionally
Why didnt you just say that in the first place instead of bitching like a little shitter then?

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>>124061549

>>124061549

>whining about a children's party game on a Vietnamese basket weaving forum

lol

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>>124061549

>project memery

I predicted this would happen

This is because they were too full of themselves
>"use wrist strap to contain hype"
>naming it "project m" instead of "a mod for brawl"
>its own font
>its own colors
>its own theme song
>adding tons of shit instead of just character and physics and stage balancing
>epic twitter hype
>trailers
>"LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT US!!!"
>trademarking Project M

fucking retards, if they had stayed as a bunch of anonymous chatters (not among each other obvi) and not labeled it it would've been much more difficult to attack.

Now, they say they're tired of PM and want to focus on their own project. And that they didn't get C&D'd or anything.
All that is just fine, but why remove downloads, and why abstain from releasing what you have?

>>124061658
How is saying a character easy "whining"?

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>>124061549
>get called out on complaining about a "children's party game"
>oh no Ive been called out on being a no skill shitter
>better shitpost and act like I was just pretending
again, >>>/v/ might be more up your alley

>>124061724
>>124061719

>>124061719
>>124061776
>oh shit they're calling me out on my bitching and moaning!
>better argue semantics!

>>124061891
Still aren't explaining. I guess you can't. /V/ wins again! :)

>>124061948
>>124061719
>moving the goalposts by trying to argue semantics
>caring about "wnning" an internet argument
point is you were wrong and every post you made you're just trying to derail away from your retardation

anyone for 3DS?

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>>124062839

>>124053064
Someone is mad
LOL

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>It's me. Good job killing PM. Now we can focus on more character variety in Smash 5.
>What? What about Melee you say?
>Let it die of old age, what else. No one will care about Melee with its tiny, boring roster.
>It's december, release Cloud, Snake, Wolf and Shantae for fanservice.

Anyonoe up for some early bird 1v1s?
NNID - tag7191

>3.6b is released
>barely mentioned
>PM is C&D-d
>suddenly, half of the thread is about PM

>>124065959

everyone is still soaking in all of the tears they can

>>124066003
There's more salt and blood from their bleeding asses than tears.

>>124065959
>3.6b is released
I just woke up, explain further

Does the C&D mean I can finally resubscribe to channels without worrying about my subscription feed being riddled with gritty PM VoDs or will channels still be able to upload PM content?

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>>124066209

>>124066209
>gritty
What does that even mean?

>>124065374
>fanservice to like 3 people

So I told Sakurai to kill Project M
He actually did it the absolute madman!
Hahahahahahaha!

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>>124067513
>pic related

>>124067549
Anyone up for some good morning 1v1s?
NNID - tag7191

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>It seems that internal reports from Nintendo are saying that the NX can reach 20 million units moved to players next year, which is a truly impressive number for a device that just arrives on the market.

I hope you started saving money, ssbg.
Something BIG is coming.

Source: news.softpedia.com/news/nintendo-nx-suppliers-expect-10-million-sales-in-2016-report-496930.shtml

>>124067649
maybe if you promise not to BM and shitpost whenever a match doesn't go the way you want it to.

guys

what if Konami or Sega killed Project M

>>124068078
I don't care who did it
Just glad that mugen shit died

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>>124068125
>Calling PM mugen
>When Smash 4 has fucking Cloud in it

>>124068205
>I have no idea what official means

>>124068235

>being a good goy and only playing official games

>>124067726
>the hardware is going to be THAT shitty
God damn, that is some serious Dead On Arrival Beach Volleyball.

>>124068205
Sorry for being out of the loop but how does having Cloud make smash wii u mugen?
If you don't have Dio Brando you can't be a mugen. Period.
Mugen's only reason to exist is to allow Dio to steam roll every character in existence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYJbIVUA8Tg

>>124068732
Eat shit, Mugen was for building a Capcom VS SNK 3, or for Card Sagas Wars.

where can i get 3.6?

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>>124068732
We have Nintendo-Dio.

>>124068272
>implying PM was even a game.
>implying PM was any different from any romhack ever made.

>>124068803
I'd link you but I think it's illegal now since nintendo has officially taken it and all download links down.

In case you haven't been keeping one of the PM devs just got arrested so this is really going to shit right now, I'm not taking chances.

>PM dead
>NX will launch with ancient egyptian artifacts for hardware
good start, day

Anyone online who can make me 1 or 2 nice webms?

>>124065374
If Shantae actually gets in smash4 i'm selling my wii u.

>>124066209
There is no C&D

>>124070518
Yes there was.

>>124070542
https://twitter.com/MrRyanMorrison/status/671943222848069632
no there wasn't

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help i get random frame rate drops while running pm on dolphin. this is my setup. am i just too toaster to run it? what am i doing wrong?

>>124070686

Yes, there was.

>spend weeks developing new features
>never release them
>strip your site and stop distributing with no notice and no logical explanation

They were terrified.

>>124070915
Their laywer is there saying there's no C&D, what more do you want?

They're scared of a C&D but they were always scared of a C&D. Something else happened.

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>>124070986

There was either a C&D or credible information that one was coming. Either way, they got shut down.

>B-B-B-BUH THEIR LAWYER SAID!!!!
>JUST TAKE THE LAWYER'S WORD FOR IT!

LOL

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>>124070986
>Something else happened.

>>124071048
>>JUST TAKE THE LAWYER'S WORD FOR IT!
What purpose would they have to lie about it? What do they gain?

>>124071087
>>124071048
Do you think maybe it was the Yakuza? Nintendo has always had ties to them but Iwata never used it, but now that that guys in charge now...

>>124071147
>What purpose would they have to lie about it?

Saving face.

Trying to stay in Nintendo's good graces to avoid their other project also getting shut down.

>>124071260
Bullshit, nintendo can't touch their other project and once it starts outselling smash 4 in fucking weeks upon release nintendo will desperately try to get them to go back to free modding but it'll be too late by then

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>>124071305

I love you Anon.

>>124054048
source

>>124071305
do you really believe that an indie project could outsell official smash dude

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>>124071305
>once it starts outselling smash 4 in fucking weeks upon release nintendo will desperately try to get them to go back to free modding but it'll be too late by then

https://twitter.com/LegendofLucky/status/672041413836595200 (embed)

Lucky(top Melee player/Mang0's bud) made a great post about all this. Mirrors my sentiment a lot, especially this part:

>Ever since I had my first taste of truly trying to understand the game from 3.0 I have viewed this game very differently from most Melee / Smash pros. I have viewed it as a Smash game with Unlimited potential. A Smash game with the mechanics of Melee and more that could push the threshold of everything I find interesting in a competitive Smash game. A game that could truly surpass Melee, A game that I have nearly dedicated a decade of my life to playing competitively.

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>>124071305
>being THIS delusional

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>>124071305

>>124061381
Leon.

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>PM is kill
>Still no PAL release

>>124072247
Seriously, what the fuck is so hard about it.

I'm glad it's shut down, fucking retards promise shit and then they don't deliver literally YEARS later.

>>124070447
Good. Sell it to me and half the price you bought it.

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>>124071305

>>124070885
plz respond

Anyone up for some 9-5 1v1s?
NNID - tag7191

>>124072867
what's a 9-5 1v1

>>124072867
>>124067649
>>124065670
Stop avatarfagging.

>>124059246
>ignoring the 2 better ones (rosie and kokonoe)

>>124074527
>kokonoe
girls don't have dicks

>>124074527
>Kokonoe
>Girl

>>124074740
>>124074759
show
>>124072828
Try /emu/ aka emulation general

Either Nintendo or PMDT are full of idiots. They shouldn't have taken down download links. Did they forget that if you remove one download link, 100 more will appear as long as there is demand for it? And its impossible to remove all of those links, so, it can spread autism further.

>>124075643
That's not going to stop sakurai and his team of lawyers from trying.

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>>124075643
>being this mad over PM's death

Roy was the only reason why I played PM.
Outside that I fucking hate the blastzones in pm.

WHY THE FUCKL

DID THEY DO THIS

BEFORE RELASING KNUICKLES

FUCK

ALL I WANTED WAS TO PLAY KNUCKLES

I LITERALLY HAVE HIM TATOOD ON MY BODY.

KNUCKLES LEAK WHEN????

>>124075731
Im happy its dead. But they should have left it die on its own. Its safer this way. Now autist reupload this shit.
>>124075696
If they will actually try, i'll laugh my ass off. The Pirate Bay is still up and its actually illegal.

cloud when?

>>124075793
Used to being able to recover from hell and dying at 300% in Tr4sh, m8?

>>124075987
Christmas

>>124074527
Kokonoe gets carried by Rosaluma jank though, shes still trash

does rosie even show up here anymore?

>>124076062
You lose to Koko's Rosa? Who the fuck do you main? Ness? Lucass?

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>>124075874

>>124075874
>having such shitty taste
What else you want? Ridley, King K.Uck and Isaac?

>>124074527
>kokonoe
>girl
>good
U wot

>>124076258
No, just knux.

>>124076293
Better =x= good.
Sonic '06 is better than Superman 64, but it doesn't means its not shitty.

>>124076062

kokonkokokene's not bad, but he's also a guy, and yeah i think most people that main rosa are carried by her

>>124076378
>kokonkokokene
Having a stroke, anon?
>>124076332
>just knux
>not knux & Knuckles

>>124076378
Including Dabuz?

>>124075643
Streisand effect. But this doesn't bring new content on the mod, sadly.

Time to start up brawl minus tournaments.

>>124076378
>guy

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>>124076258
I wanted her.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PG_ESAM/status/672057132875956226

https://www.twitter.com/ssbmhax/status/671923367985979392
His Christmas wish came true.

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>>124076609
Well, there are modders who can bring new content even if it won't be official. From fixing Link's grab to making leaked characters from scratch. PMDT doesn't even needs to release their codes and stuff - guys like PyortLuzhin already figured out how their clone engine works and just waited for it to become open source.

>>124076804
>ADHD

>>124077186
Yeah, but it'll split the project in dozens of builds based on PM.

>>124077292
or just released on brawl vault?

>>124077324
I'm talking more about balance patches. Not just new costumes and modes.

>>124077397
People release character builds there, too, such as brawl shieldbreaker for PM or Ganon with a sword. You won't get a new proper balancing team.

>>124077494
PMDev WAS a proper balancing team. That's my point.

>>124076479

i can never remember how to spell his name

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>go to bed
>wake up
>still talking about project meme

>>124077397
New PMDT could be assembled for that. PMDT aren't the only modders, you know? Then just use good PM players for feedback and stuff.
>>124077585
Streisand effect.

>>124077582
>his

>>124077494
Wasn't there a team out there trying to balance out melee?

>>124077717
I hope, but I know it will be more complicated that "hey! let's do another PMDev Team! yay"
Autism is still there. How the new build can have the same credibility as the first PMDT?

>>124077785
Melee SD Remix, yeah.

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>>124077095
I can almost taste Hax. Pretty salty and a bit sour.

>>124077717
But they had tools only they had and some devs even said it's better to not continue PM though if people do continue it would have to be completely rebranded.

>>124078073
>though if people do continue it would have to be completely rebranded.
They NEED to do that. New name, new team, same concept.

>>124078031
I think he's still salty he got wrecked by chillin's wolf.

>>124078231
His tweet was a reply to chillin posting that gfy so yes.

RIP PM.

Brawl- is a better game anyway, its what smash 4 would have been like if it were any good

>>124077095
>hax just mad pm lived longer than his career as a fox main
SAVAGE
A
V
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>still no word on the ballot
>still no release date for cloud
>still no date for the super smash bash december jamboree
Anyone wanna play some matches? Singles, Doubles, items, whatever.

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>>124078341
>minus better than sm4sh

>>124078341
>not brawl zeus

>>124077956
Of course. They will need to earn respect. At least there already are people that could possibly be part of that and we won't have to worry about people learning coding and stuff.
>>124078073
Those tools only made it easier to work with their stuff. Its still possible to create good content with tools like BrawlBox and Maya. And i can't think of a new name if there will be a new team for PM, but i don't think people will listen to old team if they will say no to continuing PM's development. Brawl almost started development without Sakurai after all.

I just wish Mewtwo in smash 4 was playable. Not even good, I just want him to be playable.

>>124078493
It is though

Tell me when Sm4sh makes Pichu absurdly fun to play

>>124079042
It still has Brawl physics.
Checkmate.

>>124078402
I'll get on and add you in about 10 minutes

>>124078870
Nairo makes him look insane, he even said the only buff he needs is to be heavier.

>>124053310
>WHY THE FUCK IS THIS ALLOWED?!!!!?!!!
Because you're playing a game made for children with zero balance in mind?

>>124053310
>Some characters are way better than others

I challenge you to develop any video game with 30+ characters and make each of them equal in power without being literally the same characters. There will always be tiers.

>>124079181
>Brawl Physics automatically make the game shit

But Minus has more gravity and more hitstun

>>124052575
PLEASE upload the replay

>>124079384
There was a time when Zelda was considered to be good in Melee (or Brawl, i don't remember which one exactly) because people didn't know how to deal with her.
>>124079507
Then why balancing patches are even a thing?

>>124079810
>""Balance patches""
>increase the % on random throws by 1
>refuse to touch the actually dominant characters in any meaningful way
>same with the genuinely terrible characters
Great balance

>>124079936
Kong and the other Kong.

>>124079290
Sent, getting on now

>>124079936
>Diddy Kong
Though I agree, they certainly could do more.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/3v3u1x/as_a_result_of_this_news_im_going_to_commit/

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>>124080034
Rooms up

>>124080148
>thinking he is serious
Join him.

>>124079936
>Diddy Kong
>Luigi

Sheik and ZSS haven't been touched because

1. They're actually difficult to play well
2. They're hard to balance without making them outright bad.

They're also not even overpowered, git gud.

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>>124080148

>>124080148
>linking reddit
Should join him faggot

>>124080305
>ZSS
>difficult to play well
o i am laffin

>>124079936
As an Ike-main, I can safely say fuck you

>>124080397
ZSS and Sheik both require good fundamentals to play at a high level, this was unlike Diddy Kong and Luigi who just had broken kill setups any monkey could complete.

>>124080305
>They're also not even overpowered
Sheik has dominant match-ups against more than 80% of the cast. There are some top-tiers who don't struggle too much against her, but nobody beats her

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>>124080148

Project M is the only thing that's brought me happiness in this life, and to see it face corporate fascism and sudden crash removes what little hope I had in this world. The odds of the earth being inhabitable, me living in a first sold country, me having access to internet, and me being alive right now are one in a number so big that I couldn't even name it. The chances of my favorite game, my single source of happiness during desperate times, dying, is so small in comparison, that this gamble just wasn't worth it. Good bye, this will be my last post.

>>124080523
>Sheik has dominant match-ups against more than 80% of the cast.

If Sheik has a dominant match-up against your character then you're probably playing a bottom 5. I challenge anyone who thinks that Sheik is that much of a problem to play Melee or Brawl. Fox, Falco and Meta Knight are way bigger problems than Sheik is. Again, git gud.

>>124080703
Ike's my main. Sheik is his worst match-up. MK is pretty bad, too.

>>124080586
See you tomorrow.

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>>124080148
>>124080586

>reddit is entirely filled with PM
I just fucking wanted to see average gameplay or new tech, jesus fuck

>>124080703
>other games are unbalanced so this one isn't
Yeah and Brawl MK is balanced in comparison to Pet Shop from JJBA. What's your point?

>>124080586
i just saw this on reddit

>>124080863
Why are you going to /r/smash for either of those anyways? That place is just filled with shitty Smash 4 players.

>>124080915
It originated on Melee Hell.

>>124080951
>That place is just filled with shitty Smash 4 players.
Sounds like /ssbg/.

>>124080951
It's occasionally got something interesting, like that villager and pac-man footstool thing.
Nobody here posts anything like that.

3ds anyone?

>>124080907
>What's your point?

That "git gud" and that Sheik really isn't that much of a problem? Why are Smash 4 fans such babies? Is it because you expect balance patches? Git fucking gud.

>>124080951
>Why are you going to /r/smash for either of those anyways?

Why even going to Reddit?

>>124080703
Sheik is mainly considered so strong because of her nearly impenetrable neutral thanks to her autocancels and needles. She almost able to follow the old Isai advice, Don't Get Hit. No matter what weaknesses she has, if you are able to play extremely safe, you can get away with little kill power and low damaging moves cause you have all the time in the world. But no player is actually that perfect, so the best way to beat a Sheik is simply to outplay them. It's also easier with one of the few characters with an even matchup.
>>124080863
What kinda tech you want? I gotchu senpai.

>>124081005
Yeah this place is pretty much the exact same thing.

>Look at this epic disrespect from Ganon
>Skillful Zero to death by me!(actually was on a complete retard who tried to use an attack to get out of it instead of DIing or airdodging several times)
>Melee Kreygasm

>>124081056
Aight

>>124081186
I think Smash 4 fans just need to grow up and realize that there's going to be a top character and it's looking like that's Sheik. Instead of just bitching about it git gud.

You guys don't understand that you're just going to be perpetually bitching this way because as soon as you nerf Sheik you'll just get a new number 1.

>>124081224

kk you mind hostin?

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Look at this epic disrespect from Ganon

>>124081339
It's shitty when the best character beats almost the entire cast with a single fucking projectile

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>mfw Roy's reverse grip attacks
>mfw Ike's two handed grip attacks
>mfw Cloud's one handed, two handed sword attacks

>>124081456
>losing to panchito

>Error code: the disk could not be read
Whelp
GGS ebon

how the fuck do you approach on kirby with his range and speed pls help

>>124081339

it's not about #1, #2, #3, it's about sheik being borderline invulnerable versus half the roster, and having an extreme mobility and low-risk playstyle

sheik isn't too good, she's broken. she has the best recovery, the best offstage game, the best projectile, the best neutral.

>>124081462
She doesn't, though. Git gud.

>>124081447
sure thang

>>124081339
>nerf Sheik you'll just get a new number 1
desu this is why I'd rather buff everyone to be about as good as sheik while preserving positive and negative matchups. If you keep nerfing the number 1 over and over, you end up with a game where everyone is bad and boring the play. (ie brawl without meta knight)
>>124081552
You bait the opponent into being stupid first. Then hope you can get a grab or a fast fall fair. Dair if the opponent was really overcommitting.

>>124081561
>, she's broken.

Lmfao, the only people who think this are shitters. Looks like my git gud mantra is ringing true.

>>124081447
Are you coming? If you can't join, just host the room yourself, that happens quite often.

>>124081537
ggs

>>124081672
>Lmfao, the only people who think this are shitters. Looks like my git gud mantra is ringing true.

Lmfao, the only people who think this are shitters.

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This image needs an update with emo Cloud.

>>124081731
>Baww I literally can't beat this character
>Trying to act as if he isn't a shitter.

>>124081893
Lightning, you mean?

>>124081983
>Baww I literally have no argument
>I'll just make petty personal attacks and pretend I was trolling the whole time!

>>124052228
just wait for snake, he'll have an old snake skin

>>124081893
>megaman turned into pm

>>124082040
You don't have an argument, you're just complaining about everything because you're a shitter.

so why was G&W nerfed so hard from Brawl? Wasn't he mid tier?

>lose to someone
>play again, win/almost win
>they immediately leave

Am I just boring, or do people actually care about their w/l?

>>124082016
I know you're joking, but since FF7 Cloud has been emo in almost everything he's been in.

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>>124082142

>>124080305
>>124080703
>>124081067
>>124081339
>>124081572
>>124081983
Let me try being you.
>Melee Kirby isn't horrible. Git gud.
>Brawl Meta Knight isn't overpowered. Again, git gud.
>Brawl Ganondorf isn't shit. Git gud.
>Wobbling isn't cheap. Git gud.
>HOO HAH isn't cheap. Git gud.
>Brawl ICs aren't overpowered. Git gud.
>Sm4sh Samus isn't shit. Git gud.
>>124082153
You have no argument either.

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>>124081893

>>124081456
>Disrespect

>>124082226
If it's For Glory, yes. They don't care about getting better they just want wins, so if they find someone better than they are their first instinct is to leave and if they find that they can't beat this person they just beat as easily the second time they will leave.

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>>124082142

So when will the new news come out you think?

>>124082153

OH! I get it now! You're one of those ex-Diddy mains, who transitioned to Sheik after Diddy was fixed, and now you're buttblasted because you realize Sheik might get fixed, too?

Don't worry Anon, I'm sure you can actually learn to play the game, one day!

>>124078724
>Of course. They will need to earn respect. At least there already are people that could possibly be part of that and we won't have to worry about people learning coding and stuff.
Hope they'll do that. The best community that can do that right now is their subreddit, which is pretty frightening.

>>124082354
Yeah, like I said, you have no argument and you're just complaining like a shitter.

There is literally no reason for me to bother actually conversing with you if you're seriously going to compare Smash 4 Sheik to Brawl Meta Knight. You're a fucking shitter and there's no point in trying to convince you otherwise. You have it in your head that Sheik is literally impossible to beat and there's nothing I can say to change that so why bother? I'm just going to call you a shitter and move on.

>>124082370
Capcom doesn't have anything to do with Mighty Number 9. Besides Beck is an improvement to Capcom keeping Megaman dead.

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>>124082376

Is this better?

>>124082450
It's probably safe at this point to assume you're a bowser main that got needle camped or something.

>>124082517
Not even same guy.

>>124082561
Yes
That is disrespect

>>124082450
Sheik is one of if not the most difficult characters to play well in Smash 4. That's not saying much, considering it's Smash 4 but it's something. I don't play Sheik but I'm sure your respectable low tier is a lot simpler to play than she is.

Good riddance project meme is dead

When is tr4sh's turn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNqKjtECbOc

>>124082213
the "how" he was nerfed is easy. He just lost all the tools that made him ok.

As for the "Why", who could say? Maybe Sakurai felt that the 9 made up for all of his other weaknesses.

>>124082625
Well then this general is just full of shitty players, then.

>Samus' bombs don't detonate on contact
why

Does anyone else who still plays 3DS get a sore left thumb knuckle within like 15min of playing? WTB c-stick, smashing too hard.

>>124082780
Give this a Nobel prize for pointing out the most obvious fact.
>>124082791
Because Sakurai knows nothing about balancing and doesn't gives a single fuck about Metroid or Samus unless its Zero Skill Spammus.

>>124082791
dessert

>>124082780
>Well then this general is just full of shitposters and autistic circlejerkers, then.

FTFY

>>124082759

Omni is a stupid nigger. Why the fuck do people respect him again? He isn't even good at any game and doesn't provide any useful information.

>>124083065

AceStartheThird is also a stupid nigger so why do people respect him?

Chazo is also a stupid nigger so why do the autists here still associate with him