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!! SERVERS ARE DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE, CURRENT ETA: SEVERAL DAYS !!

Offline Mode Edition

OLD: >>123940138

>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/
>Eye isn't showing up!
Please ask in thread, we will be happy to help

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4 [Embed] [Embed]
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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I am using this goddamn beast cutter and I DGAF
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COMPLAIN LOUDLY TO SONY AND FROMSOFT. MAKE THEM FEEL BAD AND HURRY THE FUCK UP.

THIS DOWN TIME IS COMPLETELY INSANE AND UNACCEPTABLE.
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>introduce a weapon with A arcane scaling
>you have to grind +ARC gems to get even a fraction of the AR you'd get with another weapon

Somebody at Fromsoft needs shooting.
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>force myself to finish fallout4's mainquest because i know i'll never pick it up again if i don't
>oh boy i can't wait to play bb
>maintenance for years
>mfw
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xth for freeing the Great Ones from prosecution
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>>123969246
>>123969246
This general is just as bad with reddit links in the fucking OP you retarded vileblood. How do you think i got lead to there?
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>>123969478
BLAME THE FUCKS WHO TRIED GETTING IN A DLC FOR FREE BECAUSE 20 EURO IS TOO MUCH MONEY FOR THESE GREEDY FUCKS
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>>123969562
Chalice dungeons killed any serious end game content.

I hope they add "Dark dungeons" to DS3 so that all Miyazoki fanfucks shits themselves.
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>>123969472
Some more Cainhurst.
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>>123969605
>builds
b-but they're all max level
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>scourge enter right leg first
>healing animation
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Okay so I'm still very new to BB, I'd like to try a bloodtinge run for guns and the chikage but it doesn't seem like there are many melee weapons that scale on it, is there by any chance a bloodgem that can be slotted to X weapon to make it scale on bloodtinge?
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>>123969605
leddit overlords have spoken!

554 new meta.
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So what exactly is the secret that Maria tried to protect?
I just beat orphan and slain the nightmare accidentally.
So this child of kos went back to the sea. Did the hunter free it from its nightmare or something?
I am completely lost on the what the fuck is going on in this DLC.
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>>123969669
NO. BLAME SONY/FROMSOFT WHO THOUGHT THE RIGHT IDEA WAS TO SHIT ON PAYING CUSTOMERS WHILE THEY FIX THEIR OWN FUCKUPS.

THEY FUCKED UP. NOT US. THE REAL VICTIMS ARE PAYING CUSTOMERS WITH VALID LICENCES FOR THE DLC AND PAID PS+ SUBS
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>>123969714
my favourite zone. I love doing it every single playthrough
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What's yharnam like when its not the night of the hunt
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>>123969714

>cainhurst
>Not the best zone in the game

Pick one and only one.
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>>123969592
Don't you start now, Elloryfag.
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I just got a PS4 and this for Black Friday. How do I beat Bloodstarved Beast? His first two forms aren't bad but I'm constantly poisoned from his third just can't beat him.
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>>123969852

Less different than you might think.
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>>123969562
and which weapon is that? because kos has the highest multipliers i've seen so far.

AR shown isn't everything.
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>>123969669
What are you talking about
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>>123969890

The poison builds up when you're close to him. If it's getting too high, back away and let it go down or swallow an antidote.
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Is there anyone here who thinks making the "perfect" build is completely laughable? You faggots will argue endlessly about how much endurance and vitality you need, and restrict yourself from the low-level Hunter Tools because you want to be "optimized" for each other. Do you think Maria, Gehrman, and Crowsteel care about how "unoptimized" their 15 Arcane spec is? No, they just see Quickening as an enjoyable, useful technique, so they employ it. Maybe you should look to them for guidance, /bbg/.
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>>123969605

Oh sweet my VIT/END/STR/SKL/BLT/ARC build is the new meta
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I've never played an Arcane build, what are some good weapons to use with Arcane builds until I get Kos Parasite?
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Level 120 is the meta
No one gives a fuck about /bbg/'s tripfags trying to force 98 but the 5 people this general has after a month
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>>123969714
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>bought PS+ just for ToH
>maintenance for a couple of days
Thanks From, and thanks Sony for making me pay for my internet again.
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>>123969624
Literally who cares?
Information is information. Just don't be like >>123969605

I personally just hate how nice everyone pretends to act, like their sucking the cock of the person they're talking to while trying to pat them on the back for being a good boy.

>>123969890
Black church garb and a saw weapon with fire paper.
L2 to parry his attacks, then run up and R1 to visceral.

For phase 3, literally just R1 spam before your HP runs out, don't try to antidote during that time, just heal through it.

Also, stick to its right side.
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>buy a PS4, Bloodborne and PS+ yesterday
>maintenance for several days, at which point I will have finished the game
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>>123970091
>Arcane build
>build
Arcane use all STR and SKL weapons.
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>>123970017
>4 QSB and a long cast animation for like 5 seconds of slightly faster dash
Neither enjoyable nor useful.
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>>123969852
Well it doesnt stop their addiction to blood
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>>123970138
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>>123970231
>Can't even farm for gems now because of maintenance
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I hope the servers being offline won't make them less active when they come back on.
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>bloodtinge builds got an anime as fuck aoe spell which throws enemies in air as well as ranged weapon which transforms into a sword, with ability to do a rapid poke when you transform it after shot
I really get a feeling someone in dev team just played through kiseki 3rd and decided to adapt Kevin's moveset to BB.
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>>123970252
I meant are there certain weapons that work better with str/skl and arcane.
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>>123970252
>Kos Parasite

Checkmate :^)
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>>123970298
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>>123970426
It will make them more active, if anything.
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Have you made contact today?
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>>123970017
Fuck of level 500 from reddit.
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>>123969943
People figured a way to play the DLC for free you clueless fuck
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Look at all the crybabies being all cainhurt.
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Is there a maintenance and how long will it last if so?
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>>123970747
That was terrible.
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>these hunters with the new whip weapon are kicking my ass
>finally get past them and open that side door to the lamp
>now I guess I have to get through a goddamn river of blood filled with these blood sucker tick things from Cainhurst

I am not NEARLY blood drunk enough for this shit.
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>>123970514
And that's all I got from Cainhurst for now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TJrw5gwx-o
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>>123970336
Why do you need to be online to farm for gems?
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So I'm still not high enough of a level to get through the DLC but I did run through and grab the two weapons I want and they're fun as hell (Pizza Cutter and Beast Cutter for STR build) and I was wondering how the Fist of Gratia is for PvE? I use the hunters pistol just for parrying and I'm considering either the cannon or the gatling gun as a second weapon, but the Fist has be interested. What exactly does it do? Can you counter with it? Does it damage decently?
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>>123970773
LITERAL DAYS. NO EXAGGERATING. MAINTENANCE ENDING WITHIN THE NEXt 6-12 HOURS WOULD BE A HUGE SURPRISE AND IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY.

GO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE.
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>>123970781
Vile even.
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Did anyone noticed that Orpan's melee attacks look somewhat similar to some untricked Saif slashes?
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>>123970465
You can use it without rune with flat gems to punch people
>300AR punches
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is there any reason to upgrade guns if you're not doing a a Bloodtinge build?
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best armor for chikage? knight is too faggy btw
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>>123971018
Well his placenta already looks like a giant fleshy saif.
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>>123970809
I was super excited for this, but I haven't found a use for it.
No parries, just staggers at the expense of about 35 stamina, I'd say.
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if you use bolt paper on the pizza cutter and then use the buzzbuzz attack, does the bolt paper proc constantly?
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>>123970847
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>>123970796
I feel like an idiot now.
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>>123971057
making 36 damage with the thunderbuss is better than making 6 damage
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Just to be clear, the PS fans are staying in this general for Dark Souls 3 and avoiding /dsg/ correct? i knew we had discussions about it but i want to know if anyone else remembers. They're still talking about 4kings "poster" even though i never ctually aw said person post and two threads back spamming dragon butts.
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>>123970847
Fuck sake.
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>I need to be online to play
Why is everyone freaking out?
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>>123970809
It staggers the living shit from enemies.
Certainly has its uses against enemies with high hyperarmor values.
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>>123971243
just pvp babbies getting their panties in a twist
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>>123971229
Just create /dsgPS4X1/
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So is it worth it to make a build for the boom hammer? or should I just go for Amy's arm since I like the boss anyway and seems better anyway
I was thinking something like
40 VIT
20 END
30 STR
13 DEX (Cannon and gattling gun)
base everything else

Should I go for some arcane? 15 or more?
I really just plan to use the weapons instead of magic anyways
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>>123971243
MULTIPLAYER IS THE EXTENDED REPLAY VALUE OF THIS GAME. MANY OF US DO NOTHING BUT CO-OP/INVADE WHEN WE PLAY. NOT TO MENTION PLAYING THE BASE GAME WITHOUT ANY OF THE ONLINE FUNCTIONS ACTIVE FEELS LIKE A WASTE.
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>>123970835
Are you joking
Sony what the fuck are you doing
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>>123971229
>this thread is any better than /dsg/
pure delusion

it's like when ds1 went to pc and everyone claimed the threads went to shit.
they were ALWAYS shit
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Holy sheeit, one of the brain ladies before Orphan dropped a fantastic gem.

Physical attack +22.3%
Increase stamina cost 3%
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>>123971294
>pvp babies
said the general having problems with Laurence and needing a summon for it.
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>wake up
>servers still down
>someone shoot those fuckers who tried to steal the dlc
bloodborne was at its peak with all the pvp/pve summoning ques
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>>123971243
>tfw starting a pure STR twink right now and will probably finish the story in 2 days anyway
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>>123971243
Dungeons
Co-op
PvP
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>>123971294
Eh. It's kind of silly. The servers will be packed as soon as they're back up; they've been active as fuck since DLC dropped.
In the meantime, this stops absolutely no one from playing the game/farming gems/making sick webms of how fast you can kill chalice ebribi.
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>>123971083
Hm, is the damage decent? Seems like kind of a waste.
>>123971253
Good to know, what kind of enemies are you referring to? I feel like most enemies stagger pretty easily.
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>>123970784
>the hunters won't aggro the bloodlickers
>their attacks won't even do collateral damage

I guess the giant, hairy tick monsters aren't beastly enough for them.
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>>123971348
So farm some more gems and make another twink
It'll be over before you think.
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>>123971408
>mfw casual will drop game
>no invasions
>so summons

Orphan killed by 2% of players
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>>123971368
>it's like when ds1 went to pc and everyone claimed the threads went to shit.
That is absolutely true. We could have had bloodborne in the Dark Souls thread but they didn't want us posting there.
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>>123971506
But your skinny ass looks a lot like candy to them.
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Has anyone managed to get a decent look at the tattered shawl on Ludwig?

I can't tell if it's from the white church set or the tomb prospector set.
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>>123971347
Any help with this?
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DLC bosses ranked by difficulty, NG+

>1. Ludwig
Fuck this bastard. Fuck him. I had to summon for the first time ever and even then I only beat him because Based Valtr magically didn't rush into his AoE in phase 2.

>2. Laurence
Still haven't beaten him after a few tries. His crawling phase reks me.

>3. Orphan of Kos
Pretty decent fight. His attacks are easy to dodge though.

>4. Lady Maria
One shot her. Probably my favorite boss fight. An honest duel between two powerful hunters.

>5. Living Failures
Celestial Emissary 2: Cosmic Boogaloo. I did have to use quite a few vials.
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>>123971580
PC players are like furries.

Ruining everything they touch.
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>>123971464
>is the damage decent?
My 50 str does something like 180, if I remember right.
Don't try to do it when co-oping, just like parrying, it doesn't work half the time.
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>>123971454
>this stops absolutely no one from playing the game/farming gems/making sick webms
Actually it does. WebMs of boss fights are pointless. Playing the game with no risk of invasion and no player phantoms/bloodstains/messages is lacking experience. It's better online.

>>123971550
No. Playing offline is fucking dumb and feels like a waste. It's missing certain feelings/features. Not okay.

Fromsoft/Sony had better fuckin' realize that people treat these games as more than singleplayer ARPGs. Without the network features, BB is a shell of a game. The online is the beating heart of the game once you've played it more than twice.
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>>123969370
Anyone able to give me some help with where to put points in a BL98 chikage/simons bowblade build?
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Can I chalice without online?
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>>123971714
DeS threads was not better. Circlejerk 24/7
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>>123971624
So is the Beast mode even remotely viable in PvP?
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>>123971714

What if they're furries and pc users? Also people like that are everywhere not just pc. Look at yourself for example.
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Post based Old Hunters.

The Queen Killer is amazing. I managed to finally beat Defiled Watchdog thanks to his help.
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>>123971374
I just farm them on my new characters, fuck chalice dungeons.
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>>123971794
25skl/50blt/14str for bloodletter :^)

>>123971798
You can make them, but not search them for free.
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>>123971819
It is mediocre as fuck, nowhere near kin mode.
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>>123971847

>not doing it solo on your first kill
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>>123971624
>>123971819
Didn't mean to reply, but it's the Prospector's chest
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>>123971561
>casual will drop game
The casuals weren't invading. The casuals are stuck on bsb. The casuals are ringing in front of gascoigne, are you gonna miss invading them? This doom and gloom is fucking silly
Yes it sucks
Bite it up buttercup
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>>123971798

Uhh, duuuh.
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Im that guy who was at work and couldn't post his hoonter.

Is there a better method than
>press /hold share button
>upload screenshot to facebook
>download
>upload here again

also post your hunters
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>>123971815
>If it's not constant shitflinging it's a circlejerk

Never understood this mindset. Probably because it's utterly fucking retarded.
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>>123971874
Oh okay. That's fine. I'm going through the line up of chalice dungeons as fast as I can at the moment.

Was at Rom waiting for an Anon when I learned the servers were down and I couldn't summon him.
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>>123971734
Damn shame. At least the Gatling Gun looks fun. My character has literally no points in Bloodtinge though. I seem incapable of making a build that fully utilizes the left handed weapons.
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>>123971932
No. Wail and moan and cause a mess. Server downtime longer than 24 hours isn't acceptable even at all. Especially when the DLC is so fresh and there's so many new players. Especially on a subscription fee based service.
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>Mfw people PAY to wait for servers to go back up
LMAO
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>>123970792
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>>123971243
You can't farm chalices without online.
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>>123971981
Insert USB, save screenshot, go to your snapshots and videos thingy, copy selected videos and images to USB drive.

It will also copy them as Jpegs and not as whatever the fuck format it would make them when you diwnload them from twitter.
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>>123971758
>playing offline is fucking dumb
Ok. Get super fucking mad at it and wail your lungs out against that mean old from.
This will not kill the game.
This will not kill co-op.
You're fucking retarded if you think it will.

I'm gonna go farm gems for my next invasion. Keep at the THIS IS A SHELL OF A GAME though. Maybe it's time you took a break.
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>>123971561
Even when BB has the least players, in late summer before DLC announcement, i was able to invade virtually anywhere with great success just by knowing that i had to move around during invasion attempts.

Now even this ain't needed and the game will alive for months thanks to dlc, complete edition and black friday bringing new ps4 users.
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>tfw the most generic DLC weapon (design wise) is the most fun

Suffering
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>whispers in the hamlet

it's the trailer voice and another.

''a call to the bloodless wherever they be''

''curse the fiends there children too''

''a curse is upon the fiends''

''fix your ears''

''the blood moon is coming''

''Kos is dead''

''Kos is dead, her baby bait (fake/bake?)''

''scales (scares?) us..''

''Dear Kos...''

''a rotting seed (sea?)''

''(a pox?) this curse, (upon?) this sea, source of all greatness **** in me, a call to the bloodless wherever they be''

"Mother is dead and her baby is cursed"

Get some headphones and help me transcribe, they overlap each other hard.
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>1:11am japan time
rip servers not going to be up until maybe they wake up.
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>Don't own PS+ because it's a shitty deal
>can't even access player messages or chalice glyphs without it because every single multiplayer features is locked out behind a paywall.
This is some bullshit. Fucking sony, how do people defend this degree of jewery?
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>>123972059
>14 day trial master race
I will never pay for multiplayer.
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>>123972152
>Implying the Rakuyo isn't more fun
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>>123971981
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>>123971981
>Nightmare still on
Step it up senpai.
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any decent essays on the themes of Bloodborne?
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>>123972148
pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
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>>123972148
US has much more players than EU
>GGxrd with fuckin 20 people
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Can we do one of these

Best Tier:
-Whirligig Saw
-Beasthunter Saif
-Church Pick

Top Tier:
-Rakuyo
-Amygdalan Arm
- Bloodletter

still really good Tier:
-Beast Cutter
-Kos Parasite
-Simon's Bowblade

low Tier
-Boom Hammer
-Holy Moonlight Sword (requires too much to use full potential and even then the LHB is still better.


This is how I feel right now about the dlc trick weapons. Though even the low tier is still better than many of the maingame weapons like the stake diver. Also keep in mind that I was thinking primarily of pvp whilest making that list. Bowblade, memesaw and the Beastcutter would the best if i would be making pve
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>>123972387
>Amygdalan Arm
>top tier
Kos Parasite is top tier
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So these Undead giant fuckers in the chalice dungeons, the ones with the clubs and chains, are they parryable at all? Do I just need to git gud with my timing? Or are they as fucking cheap as they seem?
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>>123972387
>Also keep in mind that I was thinking primarily of pvp whilest making that list.
>Saw at the top
lol
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>>123972205
>14 day
How? It only gives me the option for a 2-day trial, which is fucking nothing.
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>>123972357
I'm EU and have more than 200 GB of BB invasions, only recording the best moments.
There's lots of muriclaps playing with worldwide on, so it doesn't matter.
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What could have happened to warrant SEVERAL DAYS of maintenance?

Everything seemed fine to me, matchmaking seemed fixed. But it's an emergency maintenance.
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>>123972507
comes with ps4.
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Is bloodletter in combination with simons bowblade for range effective?
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>>123972321
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>>123972507
Create account on official site over and over again. Use 20minmail and virtual credit card with 2$.
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>>123972550
FREE DLC EXPLOIT. THE DOWNTIME WILL BE SO LONG BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO PATCH THE ISSUE.
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>>123971347
No help with this?
Should I just continue with a skill build?
are all str weapons not as good as skill weps?
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>>123972492
Shittiest bosses in the chalice. Literal hit&run boss, there's no way to safely be aggressive and maintain pressure. Just back off when they attack and go back in for a few pokes, they have no real blindspot when they start spinning and lingering hotboxes.
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>>123972575
Yeah. For invasions and PvP i always recommend a long weapon and a fast weapon.
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>>123972387

Bloodletter out preforms whirlygig for pvp imo. Faster dash r1, and the L2 is pretty much WoG with stupid active frames
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>>123972550
people were stealing dlc due to a bug and now it affects all of us.
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>>123972494
Saw is one of the best strength weapons in my opinion. Maybe its just a get used thing but it has good range and is surprisingly fast for its kind. You can argue that strengh itself shouldnt be "besttier" but I wanted to include atleast one str to it
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>>123972575
Bloodletter is most effective on its own, transforming and swapping it out is the only way to make it less efficient than the chikage
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>>123972575
The problem with bloodletter is that any time you use a gun or swap toa different weapon, you'll have to re-trick it and consume another chunk of your own health. Once you start using it, you're effectively stuck with it unless you're okay with throwing away a bloodbullet's worth of HP
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>>123972387
>Also keep in mind that I was thinking primarily of pvp whilest making that list.
Aside from Bowblade being that low you pretty much posted the PvE tier list.

For PvP it's Bloodletter and Saif in best tier.
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>>123972635
>>123972714

Wow. That's crazy
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>>123972174
Where is the best place to hear it the ambient noise drowns it out quite a bit.
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Is anyone here elemental whirlisawaster race too?
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Can I get the Accursed Brew without the Milkweed rune?

I stupidly fucked up the Adeline quest.
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>>123972685
Fuck, I was hoping there was some trick to them other than "dodge everything, whittle them to death".
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>>123972492

Hit and run. Its the worst boss in the chalice.

>tons of health
>fight goes really well for 15 minutes
>he hits you once and you are dead

Fucking stupid.
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>>123972754
>>123972753
>wear guidance
>use transform attack
>regain the full cost of the transformation

Also,the cost isn't even close to a Blood Bullet infusion. It's like half of a Blood Bullet.
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>>123972820
No, but the only way to fuck up the adeline quest is to kill her. If she's alive you can still complete it.
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>>123972584
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>>123972817
yes
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>>123972849
>wear guidance
>hitting the transform on someone who isn't retarded
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>>123972817
Master race*
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>>123972868
Guess what I did.
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How the fuck do you do correct recording with the PS4's video thing?

Every time I want to save a clip of something that just happened, it always shows me a preview of older clips or what I'm doing right now.

Is there any way to set when you want ps4 to record at the spot you want?
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>>123972931
Why?
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>>123972931
Retard.
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>>123972925
>implying
It's fast and has big range. You can use it after a backstep or backwards dash. It's really quite strong.

People who only use one half of Bloodletter are shitters. The transform attacks are stupid strong and if you have high BLT, it's nice being able to shoot stuff.
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>>123972891
What vit/end and arc are you running?
I have no idea what to aim for
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>>123972940
press share two times in row - start recording
press one - end recording
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>>123972960
I read that you had to kill her but I did it too early.
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>>123973013
Is the bloodletter tranformed mode one handed?
Also do you get bloodletter early in the dlc?
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How do you guys bring yourself to spend days farming Chalices for good gems?

The Chalice dungeons were so fucking boring to me that i didn't even make it through the main ones. I wish i could participate in the Bloodborne PvP but i think i'd rather kill myself then spend days playing those shitty chalice dungeons over and over again on every single new build that i make.
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>>123973169
no and no
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>>123973040
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>>123972803
the first enemy after the lamp, right where he crawls out
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>>123972886
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>>123973169
>Is the bloodletter tranformed mode one handed?
non-transformed is onehanded and a mace. You trick mode it to make it into a huge two handed morning star.

>Also do you get bloodletter early in the dlc?
No. It's found in the final area of it at the second half
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>>123973224
The nain chalices are boring af, its when you get into the ones with adition rites when things get fun
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>>123973224
I feel the same. I can barely finish the main chalices, I'm in defiled right now. I'm happy with the gems I get from the brain trusts.
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>>123973243
Is the damage good from the saw? Betwr than what the physical would be vs beasts for example?
Also appreciate the help
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>>123973013

Well, aside from the transform attack the 1h moves is tonitrus tier. Can't blame people for sticking with the godly 2h moveset.
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>>123973169
It's 3 bosses deep, halfway to the 4th boss. The 1-handed untricked mode has 0 blt scaling and is a shitty strength weapon, the tricked mode is 2handed (no firearms) and consumes a % of your max HP every time you enter it, so you can't freely swap between forms to use a gun without killing yourself. Transforming can actually kill you.

As someone mentioned, the untricked->tricked transform attack has extremely boosted rally potential and with guidance rune can instantly restore the transformation cost if you hit something with it. Also does a fuckload of damage.

In pvp, though, you basically never want to un-transform it or switch weapons once you've transformed it. Fortunately it has an AoE explosion attack that's nearly an instantkill and doesn't cost qsb
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What's a good weapon to use in the mean time whilst I aim for chikage and then bloodletter?
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>>123973013
wait the move you stab yourself is fast and has big range? i'm not so sure about that.
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>>123973224
You can run them in a few hours once you know your way around. Beat game and then use your 80-90 char to run the basic ptnumeru dungeons in like 1 hour, then do ailing loran, then defiled, then lower loran then isz and ihyll.
All in all, you should be ablt to do a full chalice run in about 3 hours, less if you plan ahead and ask for help ahead of time for the annoying bosses like Rom, Loran Darkbeast, Headless Bloodletting Beast and Defiled Amy & Watchdog.

Here's a picture guide on the bare essentials to pick up. Afterwards, FRC spelunking is lots of fun actually (unless your farming 27.2% arcane or bloodtinge radial. that shit is suffering).
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>like how blunderbuss looks on my back even though it clips
>hate how hunter pistol looks because with this armor set it appears floating near the leg of my character
>blunder is shit in pvp as you can't reliably punish backdash healers
>pistol is actually good
Suffering.
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>>123973224
>days
Unless you aim for ultra rare shit you'll get 'normal' 27% physicals in an few hours after opening D5 CRFs.
If you're ok with slightly lesser gems it could be even faster (example: 3 watchers drop tier 19 - 27% radials but one red aura shotgun watcher guarding lever can drop tier 18 - 26,3% gem and he respawns without remaking the dungeon).
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>>123973287
>fun
>your health is a sliver and everything oneshots you
>everything else has a retarded amount of health
>fun
It's literally artificial difficulty.
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>>123973451
> the 1h moves is tonitrus tier.
No way. You clearly haven't used it enough. It's got perfectly serviceable close range spamming chains. It's far better than Tonitrus

>>123973496
It's very fast and when it connects, they get launched onto their ass which gives you the initiative and control over the situation. You can easily go from that knockdown moment to a finishing blow with the L2 Bomb.
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>>123973224
Killing Watchers (1-2 min). DLC weapon complitly op against them. Three 27% gems - 30 min maximum
Arcane don't even need to kill bosses. But you should make sacrifices to RNG god
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>>123972387
Ok i'll give it a shot. Note my list is for dealing with gankers 1st and 1v1 PvP second so it will be biased based on those situations, this is for DLC weapons of course. Weapons are ranked in tiers in order.


Tier 1.
Rakuyo
Bloodletter
Church Pick

Tier 2
Kos Parasite
Beasthunter Saif
Simon's Bowblade
Beast Cutter
Whiriligig Saw

Tier 3
Boom Hammer
MLGS
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>>123973674
Git gud then
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So with tinge having 3 weapons to choose from what setup are you running.
I invaded so many people who still ran chicaco+evelyn but it seems really like a waste.
Also did you change your firearm or is evelyn still the way to go. The rifle seems like a good contender
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>>123973492
I just used a saw spear until I got Chikage, the road to it isn't very long.
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>>123972714
>>123972635
fucking peasants
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>>123973674
>this nigga never did f/r/c chalice coop
You're missing out.
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>>123973681
waaaaah it knocks them down? holy fuk.
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How can I quickly accumulate delicious chunks?
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>>123973243
>Flat arcane

Why do you want to do less damage?
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>>123973089
Is that really how it works? Alright, thanks.
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>>123973707
>2015
>not sacrificing DaS2 discs to apphease the RNG gods
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>>123973674
It's like the highest difficulty in a dmc game. Everything practically 1-shots you so you have to dodge around and stunlock normal enemies wherever possible to play essentially without being hit, and work hard to wear down the hp of even regular enemies, who you can't just kill in a single stamina bar of stunlocks or a single visceral.

I like it. The enemies that don't go down easy and are legitimately threatening are the most fun ones and making every enemy like that makes everything much more enjoyable of a challenge.

When you are too powerful relative to your enemies (like the normal chalices and shitty watchers mooks) the game just feels like endgame darksouls where you approach everything by hitting R1 twice and moving on to the next target.
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>>123973847
Old screen. I change them for %
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>>123973787

It's not no, but I'm quite new still and rushing for shit without good kit is backfiring on me, a good weapon might be a good idea.
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>>123971981
I wish I could redo the eyes
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>>123973723
>MLGS this low when it's basically DS1 claymore
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>>123973845
Theres loads in the dlc
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>>123973674
your point?
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>>123973982
>thinking DS1 claymore is good in this game
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>>123973243
>>123973405
?
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>>123973845
jemmjmpi
>Killing brainsucker
17 sec is my record
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>>123973224
This. Exactly my feelings.
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>>123973723
>No AMY's ARM

That r1 after backstep tho
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>>123974116
you do know you did not screencap a pic of the saw right?
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>>123973260
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>>123972796
>>123973723
is bloodletter like chikage where you just go full bt

or do i need 50str/ 50bt?
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>watchers against Rakuyo
I can literally dance all around fatasses without ever getting hit because this thing barely has any recovery on anything aside from l2.
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So did Kos give Rom eyes?
With this news of her being dead, I'd question it.
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>>123974232
I strongly recommend 25/50 STR/BLT. Otherwise you're locked down to only half the weapon and can't take advantage of strong guns.
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>>123974116
Good. You can change gems to exploit weakness.
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>>123974220
I know, but im wondering that the damge is like from the saw and if it does more than physical on beasts?
Assuming its fire or something
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how is the npc hunter for rom?

not gonna bother if he gets OHKOed by single spider divebomb like normal players.
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>>123973224
You can buy all of the materials in NG+ now. If you want to pvp, just blow through one of the short or easy chalices to grab the root chalice, and then buy the materials to create it in NG+ and you can start doing glyphs. Farming isn't so bad because you're not thoroughly clearing the whole damn thing, you're just going to kill a specific enemy or boss over and over. The runs are short and straightforward, no better or worse than any pother kind of farming in any souls game.
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>>123974149
saved mine
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>>123974232
Bloodletter's untricked damage and moveset is quite shit.
I would only go to 30 STR/50 BLT with bloodletter build and purely to use cannons and minigun to their fullest potential.
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I thought insight reduces your frenzy resistance. Doesn't seem like it after checking my stats.
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>>123974232
Yeah you can just go full BLT. main mode of damage you'll be using is the transformed version anyways. You can actually make a build using both just keep str at base for bloodletter or dex at base for chikage
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>>123974232
Full BT is fine, most of your time will be spent in its two-handed form. 25str/50blt if you want to make full use of both movesets.
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>>123974356

the mensis guy? he's pretty awesome, if he runs to you don't heal, he'll heal you to full np, and spams shit all day for the adds.
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>>123974285
No, Kosm did.
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>>123974317
Ok cool, thanks
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>>123974409
>Bloodletter's untricked damage and moveset is quite shit.
Said the moron. The damage is great and the moveset is perfectly fine and actually includes a generous amount of thrusts with solid reach.

It's moronic to spec yourself so that you mainhand weapon is a piece of shit any time you feel like shooting/parrying.
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>>123973674
this
and ontop the dungeons don't have what BB and souls in general have to make them what they are:
top tier level design both mechanically and aesthetically.
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>>123974227
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what's so special about the church pick?over 100 invades and I've seen it only twice.
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>>123974317
I think il go for 42 hp then get stamina to 20
47 seems abit much
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>>123974285
I think rom was made from the knowledge gleaned via the research of the hamlet. S/He wasn't "granted eyes" by Kos directly, but rather granted them through the study of Kos and Kos' indirect influence on the hamlet. Mensis, with limited access to some of Byrgenwerth's knowledge, knows of Rom and knows that Kos is a thing, but probably don't have access to the Hamlet or its research directly in order to know that Kos is dead or that Rom was created by research and unethical arcane science rather than praying to celestial god.

It's worth noting that there's a very rom-like spider laying on the altar of despair that Ebrietas prays at.
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>>123974456
can't remember what his name was

how slow is the heal?
not much point standing around waiting if rom's raining down meteors
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>>123974434
Higher insight = lower frenzy resistance. I don't know what you're looking at which would indicate anything to the contrary.
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>>123972205
I thought the "new psn account every two weeks for the free trial" thing stopped working once they started asking for credit card numbers even on Brazilian and Japanese accounts
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>>123974593
The only thing the BB has over it is edge-factor, and they share largely the same playstyle.
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>>123973243
Where can I farm those beauties? Code and layer/enemy please?
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>church pick is just Hunter Axe:Skill Edition
>/bbg/ adores it

didn't know i was amongst dexfags
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>>123974678
character stat screen under frenzy? trying to figure this shit out so i can use bloodletter l2.
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>>123974593
It's extremely, extremely good, probably the best dlc weapon for pvp. The problem is that it's boring as hell. In a dlc full of crazy, goofy weapons it's a super bland estoc/halberd hybrid. It'll become meta once things settle down and the tryhards lose interest in the fun weapons.
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>>123974563
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>>123974626
Yeah, that makes sense.
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>>123974593
From what i've seen when it hit me in pvp the transformed attack probably has some insane multiplier, it's extremely fast and swipes cover a broad range in both forms. 2h moveset is also extremely fast.

Probably don't see it a ton because it just looks boring.
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>>123972357
The localizers are to blame for Xrd's current state in the EU since it's not up to date with the current version of the other regions.
Or at least it wasn't up until very recently, thankfully I bought a US copy so I wouldn't know :^)
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>>123974752
Not him but, radials are from Ihyll braisuckers (two af them in lever room here: r67m7z6i).
Triange from ISZ Braisucker boss, look in OP for info. That one can go as high as +72 flat arc.
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>>123974528

It's pretty damn slow for its reach, you might as well swap to a saw cleaver if you ever untrick BL.
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Thinking about STR/BLT hybrid.
Is bloodletter's untricked mode at least somehow usable? It seems to be tonitrus-tier.
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Is it not to bad co-oping if your a high level?
Personally i find the whole meta shit pointless and limits how much i can enjoy the game
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>>123974837
Sorry for the question but is the pick pure skill or more of a semi quality weapon?

Can my dex build with 10str/50skl run it fine or should I rather create a 25str/50skl for it.
Really want to give it a go but it the stats seem weird, same with the saif. If its the later I am not sure if i stay at 98
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>>123974845
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>>123973224

Its boring as fuck and I blame the lower level chalices. They are so pointless with nothing in them that nobody farms them so why bother having them there? Just make every chalice root and let you increase the difficulty at will instead of farming stupid mats.
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>>123972817

682 AR pizza cutter with fire
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>>123974752
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3poth0/guide_the_arcanist_an_enormous_guide_to_arcaneing/cw84dpx
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/individual-blood-gems.html
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>>123970709
How?
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>>123974739
people are using virtual CC accounts to get the free trial, see >>123972621
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>>123975185
Meme machine bruh
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>>123975112
best on 25/50 basically skl focused quality
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>>123975090
Don't go over 140 and you will find lots of coop.
Meta circlejerking is only important for a bunch of /bbg/ retards.
Look at the typical Bloodbell levels and decide for yourself.
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>tfw no ice magic

;-;
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>>123975112
25/50 would probably be the absolute optimal, but it definitely does enough damage as a pure skill. I've been using it on a pure skill build, unfinished, with shitty 15% gems and ~40 skl and the damage is still exceptional. It's strong enough on its own that you have a fair bit of leeway build-wise while still doing excellent damage. I wouldn't bother making a new build for it, as your skl build will use it just fine, fine enough to still outclass most of the other weapons in the game quite decisively.
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>>123975185
Are two scaling gems and one element better than just one scaling and two of the element?
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>>123975243
how do you get a virtual cc?
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>>123975123
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>>123974739
>>123972621
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>>123975185
So that would put out nore damage against beasts than a physical one right?
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>>123975171
problem is most people only start the chalice after they are ng+ or whatever, vastly overleveld. Not saying its great but if more people did them at low level it be fine.
I do them as soon as I get them, the only drawback is that you get relatively good gems for the maingame, but the dlc made that problem somewhat obsolete.
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>>123974401
dumb. just use the hunter's torch. it stunlocks him until you run out of stamina
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>>123975185
Why 2 scaling?
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>>123975396
Place you dick infront of a cashier at a bank and say perform the ritual upon my penis please
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>>123975396
Those kind of services exist in every country.
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>>123975185
>>123975418
More*
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>>123974593
are you retarded?
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Know of any Isz mobs that drop nourishing gems?
I don't want to make an offline root, just want a quick low-level fix until servers are up.
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>>123969830
I'm trying to figure out why the PC ran in there and fucked it up in the first place.
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>>123975279
>>123975341

Ok thanks for heads up, I will try it later.
Though on the other hand if the servers are down I might as well make a 25str/50skl build in the meantime.
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>>123975405
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>>123975243
>>123972621
Huh, but that means you have to make a new virtual credit card every time you want to "renew" your trial, right?
That would translate to $4 per month, which is in turn $48 per year.

I guess I'm missing something here
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Brain sucker, If you have an offline chalice with it you can farm it.
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>>123975379
>>123975461
Because reason.

>>123975418
Yes, but if you really want the best setup for beast, find gem with 30%+ beast with bit fire attack
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>>123969830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNf5ky0Yf_M
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>>123975071
>It's pretty damn slow for its reach
It's mid tier speed. with short reach. Don't forget those thrusts too.
> you might as well swap to a saw cleaver if you ever untrick BL.
I guess if you're a degenerate minmaxer type. But that's not much fun.
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>>123975876
you don't renew your trail. That's the point.. you keep making new accounts. IMO i'm definitely not that poor i rather just buy the PS+ cards on sale. It's regularly down to 40 for a year.
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>>123975895
>v having lore discussions wat
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>>123975826
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>>123975876
>you have to make a new virtual credit card every time you want to "renew" your trial, right?
No. They have no rights to ban your CC. I use same one for year
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https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3uz0y5/emergency_server_maintance_12012015/cxj7e4n

>Thanks to the community here, we've received some really important feedback about an exploit and serious issues that exist in the game. The game is currently undergoing emergency maintenance, and we're working non-stop to get some things patched and back online. So a huge thank-you to everyone here for the feedback, and please be patient while we work to get things restored.

>I apologize that I can't be more specific, but I wanted to let you know that we value your feedback, and what you're doing here is really helping. So, thanks!

reddit caused the maintenance
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Servers are up again guys, or atleast im connected to the servers anyway
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>>123975918
Interesting. If you tried 2 scaling on something with better natural scaling would you expect diminishing results?
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>>123974528
>The damage is great
It has, how much, 500 AR on 27-28 STR which is the best you will go for it?
Wew.
>moveset is perfectly fine
Yeah, by tonitrus standards.
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>>123975895
>/v/ is currently a more functional unit than /dsg/

you know I can't say I'm terribly surprised
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>>123976135

What exploit?
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>>123975826
love this shot.

>>123976163
things with natural high scaling don't get that high of a boost with it.
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>>123974626
>I think rom was made from the knowledge gleaned via the research of the hamlet.
I agree, at least to some extent

>S/He
She. Miyazaki has made it clear.

>wasn't "granted eyes" by Kos directly, but rather granted them through the study of Kos and Kos' indirect influence on the hamlet.
I don't buy that. Micolash is probably the most knowledgeable character in the entire game who's capable of speech, barring Gehrman who just wants to be a grim old man everytime you talk to him. Micolash specifically says "Grant us eyes, grant us eyes, as you once did the Vacuous Rom". I don't think that was metaphorical. Remember that Rom is considered "Willem's secret", and Willem was (assumingly) very ashamed over the events of the fishing hamlet. I'm sure that it might not have been as simple as Kos booping Rom to get Rom instantaneous ascension, but it had to have been more direct than "research developed from Kos".
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>>123976094
Ok, I just thought that they wouldn't let you use the same credit card on two different accounts.
But I guess that shouldn't be a problem for them if you delete your old account beforehand.

Thanks for the heads up m80s
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>>123976202
>It has, how much, 500 AR on 27-28 STR which is the best you will go for it
You're thinking far too narrowly
>by tonitrus standards.
No. But literally any standard. It's actually one of the better mace movesets Fromsoft has come out with.

Whatever champ. Waste time and effort swapping to a saw when you want to shoot somebody. Go ahead. Be a dummy. I don't care.
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>>123976248

>There was a glitch were people without the dlc could gain access to it for free if they cooped gehrmen with someone who had the dlc

lol how fucked up is that?
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>>123975826
Anon, can you make an imgur album with all of those? They are fucking beautiful.
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>>123971712
Ranked by the number of times I've died to each boss over 3 builds:
1.Laurence (lost track)
2. Ludwig (7)
3. Orphan of Kos (3)
4. Maria (2)
5. Living failures (1)

I think I enjoy every fight save the Maria battle. The failures are not super exciting in themselves, but the arena is enchanting. Laurence's phase two gives me fits, but I appreciate how dramatic the transition between phases is. Ludwig and Orphan are just frenetic and suit the aggressive gameplay well. Maria is slow and has large, lingering hitboxes, especially in phase three (I've been blocked from ripostes several times by phantom flames). Just doesn't do it for me.
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>>123976092

>>123976263
Thanks anon.
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>>123976135
>>123976248
Maybe the free DLC exploit was real?
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>>123976263
Ok so 2 scaling, 1 element for less inclined weapons. 1 scaling, 2 element for ones that already scale well.
Thanks.
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>>123976429
Of course it was real. We had somebody get into the DLC using the exploit before the official release even hit.
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>>123974674

It's actually pretty quick. about 1.5 seconds give or take.
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>>123976162
pic or no proof, still down for me.
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>>123976506
I was watching his stream, did he somehow use the exploit with someone who had the GOTY edition?
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So was the Astral Clocktower in the real world?
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>>123976162
Ignore this, servers are NOT up, he is trying a ruse.
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>>123976565
Yeah he must have ended up doing that. There were streetdates broken in europe so GotY edition players were bumping around.
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>>123976053
It's not about poor or not. I don't wanna pay for shit service. Do you know that sonyshit erased all information about free PS3 multyplayer? Right now they advertise non-free multiplayer as feature. Literally 1984. Some people right now don't even know about free online on PS3
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>>123976426

>>123976394
Will do, don't worry, just be patient.
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>>123976452
No scaling for those already with A/S for the damage type you want. You will not see an increase, your damage will be worse. You only put it in those with bad scaling.
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>>123976162
fucking whore
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>When you enter fishing hamlet from the clocktower you can see nightmare yharnam in the water
>From Nightmare Yharnam you can only see the sky/cosmos
>Kos dead body was washed ashore on the beach at fishing hamlet
>The sea at the fishing hamlet is actually supposed to be a metaphor for the cosmos as seen from below

This is really clever symbolism in my opinion. Now it's completely debatable if the Great Ones actually came from the sea as we know it or from the metaphorical sea that is the cosmos.
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>start new character
>cocky as fuc
>lost like 100k souls so far just fucing up

I know in the grand scheme of things its nothing but its fucking annoying losing so much progress when I'm only level 33
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>>123976671
blame xbox for that. sony had to follow suit so they get money to upgrade services.
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>>123976608
There was probably _A_ clocktower in the real world. It being somehow connected to the Fishing Hamlet seems pretty fucking unlikely though, as it's a tower on top of a village/town whereas the hamlet is down at sea level.
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>>123976452

Well, Whirlgig has B rating and my cold abyssal has bonus 14 fire attack.
27% triangle is still better if cold abyssal doesnt have that bonus fire attack.
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>tfw want to make a blt/str character but don't know where to stop with str
>want to use amygdala arm in second slot but it will probably require me to go for BL120
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>>123976608

Yes, you can see it from the Upper Cathedral Ward entrance. It's very pretty.
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>>123976931
I blame people who didn't screamed FUUUUU on PS4 conference where they announced this shit.
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>>123976786
Is Parasite the only exception to this rule?
I keep reading that it benefits more from scaling or % gems, but I've yet to get an Uncanny version with proper gems to test it myself
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breh where did you get that sweet 27% fire triangle?
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>>123976774
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>>123977398

Isz watcher, 5pwujscd
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>>123977308
No idea, never used it. Maybe someone in the thread can help you out
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>>123977398
thanks
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How is this for a skill build

http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/8670

be gentle
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>Astral Clock is machine that can transfer you among different layers of nightmare like a lift
>all those runes
>all those Great Ones
>all those nightmares
One fuckin DLC. ONLY ONE.
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>>123977849
Fine. Why 15 arc though what do you plan on using with it?
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>>123977849

Why are you investing so little into BLT/ARC? I feel like those are wasted levels. Also, I'm pretty sure you can save a few levels by starting as a Military Veteran instead of a Professional.
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>>123978114
>>123978026
old hunter bone for anime dodges mostly. Probably will use the magic weapon buff too. As for tinge, i have it for reiterpalash option though yeah i can probably drop it
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All those slugmen worshipping Kos. Pretty unnerving.
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Goddamn, I really can't into faces with this character creator.
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>>123977308

I did some testing and i believe full % arcane is still better for R1 and R2 damage. I still need more testing though.
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>>123978213
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>>123978213
just wait until you're in-game
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>>123978194

Well, in that case, I think you're fine.
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>>123977960
Some of those probably take you to the other dream realms you go to in-game anyway.
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>>123978213
At this point I'm just going for "not medusa levels of ugly"
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>>123969370
Does the game get any better on second/third/etc playthroughs?
I'm struggling to get through just for the hope to have fun with this game again, it was really enjoyable for the first few hours but fell off fast.
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>>123978339
Bruce Willis?
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>spending time on sliders in character creation
>every single face looks like melted crap once you're in game

there's really no point.
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>>123977960
>The clock comes to rest on the inverted deep sea rune before sinking downwards and opening
Oh fuck
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>>123978501

That's all on you, anon. If you're already not having fun, then I suggest you drop the game before you waste more time on it. If you're willing to give it another chance, try playing the DLC.
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Can you guys talk more about lore? I need to make a new video to pay my rent thanks.
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>>123978249
Damn, we really need someone who already has all the required gems to do some testing for us before we go out farming for the wrong gems
I just want to be a cool broccoli man asap ;_;
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>>123978695
Vaati please go.
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>>123978501
is for me, trying out different builds
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>>123978780
It's true. % give you better damage.
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Bought a PS4 + goty edition and this shit happens the day after. Fucking From.
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>>123978501
weird, everyone I know says their first playthrough was the best: sense of exploration, not knowing what's next, figuring out bosses etc. the first playthrough of any souls games is really up there as one of the best times I've had in video games.

I would say it's less "stressful" the second time though. you know when the next lamp is coming up, you don't get stuck and so on.
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>>123978198
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>>123977960
Essentially the clocktower is like the tree of life in Darksiders then? It appears but slightly different in every realm (of reality) and serves as form of passage between each?
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>>123979047
Why does this affect you at all?
Your first playthrough is going to take at least 25 hours and messages ruin first playthroughs.

Messages on this game completely shit on level design. If you're patient and look around the games really don't throw a lot of surprises at you. But people reading messages just get rewarded for doing absolutely nothing. "Ambush ahead"

Why is this allowed? In other words. You're lucky that servers are down. Get the fuck out of the thread and enjoy your first blind playthrough.
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>>123978780
Can you fags not enjoy the game unless you spend days farming for the MOST EPIC OPTIMAL GEMS?
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>think rom is a huge piece of shit
>dread fighting her
>beat DLC
>think to myself "haha maybe rom wont be so bad now"
>walk into her boss room
>instagib wombo'd by spiders
>die to deathcicles from above
>keep dying
>walk in one last time
>look up for the deathcicles
>realize how similar it is to Living Failures' meteor attack
>wait a second
>hear Master Willem in my head, "Our eyes have yet to open"
>look at Rom
>see her for the useless stationary squishy fuck she is
>rest of the fight goes flawlessly

I FEEL LIKE I'VE GAINED INSIGHT IRL
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>>123971243
bloodstains, notes, and phantoms comfort me, they always have in souls games

I only got bloodborne the other day, and this game is creepy as fuck, I want my comfort zone back

plus I really enjoy coop, so sometimes I will only want to play not to progress the story, but just to fight the bosses again in coop

tl;dr it doesn't feel right playing offline
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>>123972012
I have the Gatling to +9 and it was 30/tick, 90 initially with BMA.
It's extremely good to pressure in PvP and not allow your opponent to heal. It's pretty useless in PvE.

>>123977182
>not already having best build
Str is seriously Great One tier
For Bloodletter, everything I've heard is 14str/50blt since its non-tricked sucks.

>>123978339
You went from the ugliest girl yesterday to the protagonist from Resistance: Fall of Man.
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>>123979056
are you retarded? he literally just said that the first playthrough was very enjoyable
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>6 months of maintenance

My god From.
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>>123979337
cleric beast is garbage tier desu senpai
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>>123978818
What's this Vaati meme about? I watched a few of his videos, they're ok. Did he steal something from here?
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>>123979337
How many voters did this get?
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>>123979594
>Did he steal something from here?
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>>123979594
its mostly fags being jealous of him
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>>123979270
welcome to what soulbrandtfags created. they suck so bad that they need high tier gems when brain lady ones are good enough.
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>>123979453
not him but I hope for your sake you don't talk to people like that in your day to day.

hope this somehow helps with whatever youre struggling with.
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>>123977960
oh fuck you're right, we should start a petition. I want this.

>mfw one leads to the fifth archstone
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>>123979594
Sweet summer child.
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>>123979698
there's nothing wrong with telling retarded people that they're being retarded, since i don't have any interest in talking with them any further anyways.
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>>123979594
He started off as an anon from /dsg/ who complied theories and stories from threads into a video and narrated them
It was fine because everyone knew it was just a /dsg/ anon doing it for /dsg/ anons and sharing information /dsg/ found

Then he became popular and earns money for it
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What are the preferred weapons for a Skill/Bloodtinge build?

For firearms I wanna go with evelyn, but for hunter weapons I'm not sure. Chikage seems to come out on top everytime.
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>>123979453
Well, the first like 75% of it was, with the final stretch being kinda shitty to me.
but I dunno, I think I'll like it a lot on NG+

>>123979698
nigga where do you think you are
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>>123979337
Ok, who fucking meme-voted? This list is shit.
>Ludwig not God tier
>Yharnam anywhere near the top
>Wetnurse above anything other than Undead Giant (which deserves its own tier tbfuckingh)
>BSB and Abhorrent as low as they are only because people can't beat them
Other than that, I liked the Living Failures fight, but only because there was shit everywhere to watch out for and dodge, but it was super easy so 'low' is probably a good spot for it.

I'd say the rest is fairly accurate.
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>>123979884
you sound like a well-adjusted person!

>>123980032
on the internet or are you one of those that think 4chan is some underground website where everybody has to act like a piece of shit?
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>>123980162
babe why are you so triggered
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>>123980087
Please, Yharnam boss fight is amazing.
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>>123976864
How about both? I think it may have teleported from space into the ocean. It sounds stupid at first, but a Great One doing atmospheric entry like a space shuttle sounds even more retarded
>even though the thought of ebrietas dropping down to earth like a meteorite is quite hype
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>>123979946
because bloodtinge is very limited. You can go 25/50 for the chikage and 14 str as minimum to use the bloodletter. Most of the damage will be coming from transformed for anyways.
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>>123980162
go back to your tumblr hugbox
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>>123979946
Chicago, Bowblade, Reiter
Bloodletter if you want to SL150 it up
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>>123979594
Originally, he was an anon from /v/ that got popular from taking lore discussion, jokes, oc and other discoveries shared in /v/ threads and in enb lore videos and compiling them into his own videos, primarily without citing sources (which is normally fine because we usually don't want public recognition).

When he got popular he jumped ship to reddit and the quality of his content plummeted. Eventually, he stole oc from somebody who cared and busted, so we mock him for making shitty videos and having nobody decent to steal from. He's become like a living parody of himself, which I suppose is quite fitting considering he know feeds on reddit.
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>>123980360
>>123980261
HURR 4CHINS HATE MACHINE FORTY KEKS
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>>123980162
>expecting anon to behave better than an edgy teenager

you're better than this
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Opening a shortcut feels better than beating a boss.
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>>123980290
>dash R1, hit twice, dash back for AoE
>R1 spam while shackles are being broken (can sometimes stunlock to death here, ending the fight)
>ignore all AoE's and attacks other than the one that lifts you, but if you kill fast enough you won't even have to watch for it
>kill clones
>R1 spam Yharnam
Yeah, it was real fun. It's not why everyone says it was a weird letdown after Defiled and how hard Descendant and HBLB can be, huh?
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>>123980628
that's a thing I loved about DeS. Glad they brought that back instead of bonfires every two feet.
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>>123980360
>tumblr hugbox lol xD if you don't like calling people retarded and act like a shithead for no reason you should go someplace else! this is 4chan!

I'm here for you whenever you want to open up.
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>>123980651
>attack
>dodge when they try to attack me
>heal if i fuck up and get hit

woooow dumb fucking boss fight
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>beast mode
>reduces speed
>reduces defense
>makes dodges worse
>doesnt increase damage
>beast claw is still in the shitty dungeons
fucking why
why why why
WHY
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If I didn't get the trophy for all weapons before the DLC, do I need to get all the DLC weapons for it?
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>>123980628
>going along killing
>barely scraping through some fight
>amassing blood like I'm a goddamn bank
>starting to get anxious, this is a lot of fucking blood
>open a door
>it's a shortcut back to the lamp
>damn near orgasm in relief
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>/bbg/ slower posting
>~75 posters like before, too
I missed this.
I needed this. I was seriously contemplating posting only in the /bbg/ PS4 community group until this general died down again.
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>>123980651
>my opinion > your opinion

I kill Amelia on my first try every time and I love the boss fight. Died several times to Laurence, because it wasn't hard, it was bullshit.
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Is my game bugged or something? Why is there a sea outside the clocktower?
I got mad flashbacks there..
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>>123980547
>>123980752

No, you idiot. But if you get triggered on 4chan by someone simply calling you retarded you're probably too frail for the real world.
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>>123980839
>dead servers
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>>123980628
Killing bell maiden > Getting item you needed > Opening shortcut > Beating boss > Lighting lamp
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>>123980809
Pretty sure you don't.
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>>123978213
>>123978435

Could have been better but didn't end up as ugly as I feared. Thank fuck.
I can play this.
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>>123980975

Or you could've just made it as ugly as possible because it literally doesn't matter you fucking waifu faggot.
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>>123976864

This is what I like about Bloodborne's setting and lore. Shit like this is all over the place that makes sense at some basic, human IQ level but difficult or impossible to rationally describe
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>>123980861
Miyazaki didn't direct the DLC, so things got messed up.
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>have to farm 27.2% gems to make a build hold a chance in pvp
>have to slog through the absolute garbage chalices every single time you want a new build
How do you people do it
How can you just sit there and do this shit hours to an end?
On top of everything the servers are down so I can't even farm right now.

This game would have been 10 times better without the chalice system and the gem farming.
Prove me wrong.
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>>123980861
Take a close look in the water.
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>>123980809
No, only the 1.00 weapons/firearms/tools are needed for the achievements.
This excludes madara's whistle as well.
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>>123981038
Sorry m8y had no ref of ur mum
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>>123980846
I killed orphan on my second try but spent probably 10 times on laurence. I felt like I could never dodge any of his attacks and the camera goes benny hill up close.
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>>123980948
>killing bell maidens, ever
>not letting your summon fight 1v1 the invader to see if he' worthy of being your companion
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>>123980861
Nah.
Just look down.
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>>123981132

Just make it as ugly as possible and it'll be close enough, I guess if you can replicate hollow from ds1/2 you'll be right on it. Or even nito, it's been a few years.
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>>123969370

What a fucking joke this is, seriously. I had JUST obtained the fucking chalices I needed to farm arcane shit on my twink but I still needed ONE fucking bastar of loran to make the dungeon cursed and now this.

Online on the PS4 is a fucking joke lately, downtimes all the fucking time, jesus fucking christ. They should be paying US to play on this garbage instead of the contrary.
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>>123980861
>>123981047
>They think nightmares are geographically consistent
How did you robots get past the captcha?
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>>123980763
Oh look, it's this argument again.

What makes the fucking fight any good then, faggot?

>>123980790
For the looks and free L2 shittier beast roar.
People wanted beast mode, they delivered. They just happened to also make kin mode which is 100x better.

I think Beast Claws are better without the rune, if only for the 3 attacks that are faster in the beginning of an R1 chain.

>>123980809
No.

>>123980846
>opinionated opinions
Guess there's no arguing that.

Also, I haven't died to Laurence yet, and I helped a FB shitter in NG+x on my 98.
Is Whirligig just that fucking good? I used mid-tier gems through NG, so I get that, but that co-op fight was also easy and the host didn't attack a single fucking faggot time and didn't say thanks or anything fuck him.

>>123981095
>that realization post-image
holy fuuuuuuuck
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>>123981146
Same, m8
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>>123981149
I mean chalice dungeon spider maidens.
They give me a huge thrill, especially in pairs.
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>>123980920
damn man you are one hardcore internet person.

>if you don't go around calling people random shit for no reason you are too frail for the real world
>I am edge, destroyer of the internet
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>>123981212
has nothing to do with PSN this time. Some people found out how to get into the DLC without paying so they are doing emergency maintenance to fix it. I am piiiiissed.
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>>123970195
>I personally just hate how nice everyone pretends to act, like their sucking the cock of the person they're talking to while trying to pat them on the back for being a good boy.

This is also what kills me. It's funny because the minute someone disagrees with them they strawman the fuck out of the person or get visibly mad. It's just a disguised 4chan-level shitposting.
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>>123981337
Ah. Yes. Fuck those.
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Here's what gamefaqs thinks are the worst weapons.
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>>123980790

But at least you have a cool jumping attack! Your running attacks hit twice, too!

It still sucks.
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>>123981396
>I am edge, destroyer of the internet

sides;lost
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So the people who cheated into the DLC have to buy it and probably start the dlc over right?
So should we just invade the fuck out of the beginning of the DLC once it's back up?
You know some of them are gonna be summoning if they are so incompetent to fuck up the entire game like this.
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>>123981212
uh with the exception of this and some hours on friday, PSN and bloodborne has been stable as a rock for months.

it sucks it gets taken down, but what else are they gonna do when people are getting the DLC for free?
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>>123981467

Of course they'd go for the Rakuyo.

I don't blame them. Rakuyo is cool as fuck.
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>>123970558
>this delusion

People are just gonna start playing other shit and that's when they leave.
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>>123980752
literally mad
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>>123972301
sorry family I have to work til 4 pm and take care of gf. I'm fighting The Orphan but first I to kill the monsters in the well...
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>>123981615
the votes are for what they think are the worst breh, and Rakuyo is highest.
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>>123981467
>Gatling Gun
>Kos parasite even being there
>Beast Cutter
>Boom Hammer
>Bloodletter
Are there people fucking idiots?
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>>123971243
>muh fanboy circlejerk enforcement
>must protect precious hurrr

It's okay, they fucked up big time, it's not gonna impact the quality of the game, nor will admitting they fucked up.
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>>123981578
>pirs
Your trip sounds familiar, weren't you some faggot in /dsg/ back in 2012?
Or is it just coincidence?
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Can you drop weapons in this game?
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>>123981467

>rakuyo highest

Figures all the weeb faggots on gamefaqs would be sad they can't splatter blood and fire all over the place with their katana.
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>>123981578
Are you his big brother or something
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>>123981418
>ModernFeminism.mp4
It's why I only have an account for FC funposting.
The same fucking couple of people always have to post in the threads, too, 'No healing? No thanks.' and shit, like just fucking don't attend and don't vote the shit either way so I don't have to post it a 2nd fucking time.

>>123981467
>sidearms are the worst
I agree, I don't even use guns almost ever, but they were lacking. Gatling is great for putting the pressure on people in PvP though and to reverse Rosmarinus certain Arc Untanebuilds.

Rakuyo is a surprise, I'd've put Boom Hammer on top for 'most wanting', but I like the Tonitrus, too, I just hate hitting L1 over and over.

>no whirligig
Would of won anyway.
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So the castle/structure on left when you exit the Clock was discussed recently and I've investigated it a bit:

It appears to simply be the structures that the fishing village use for that whole internal environment, growing the snailwaifus and such
Although it looks a bit strange in the fact that the windows suggest that it was carved into the mountain, but the small rooftops on the top kind of indicate that it might not be the case? Looks a bit like the mountain "melted" onto it or something

I have yet to find the windows on the inside of the structure for some reason, might be the camera limits or the intense amount of nets and random wood all around

Just random observations, enjoy/discuss whoever might be interested
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>>123981720

Oh, shit, I read it as "wanting more", which I thought was a good thing.

Man, shit taste as usual.

>Gatling Gun and Piercing Rifle
>bad

They are beyond help.
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>>123981939
Problem?
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>>123971374
>>123971850

Do they drop arcane shit?

What's the criteria people use to determine what bosses drop what by the way? I don't understand how can people pinpoint exactly what kind of gems with each kind of possible value a certain monster may drop or something.

Can someone explain? How do I determine that X or Y monster is worth farming either in the normal game or in chalices?
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Thanks to the community here, we've received some really important feedback about an exploit and serious issues that exist in the game. The game is currently undergoing emergency maintenance, and we're working non-stop to get some things patched and back online. So a huge thank-you to everyone here for the feedback, and please be patient while we work to get things restored.

I apologize that I can't be more specific, but I wanted to let you know that we value your feedback, and what you're doing here is really helping. So, thanks!
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>>123981724
I read some thread where is 200BL+ complained about bloodletter damage. Ludwig is best weapon because of 9999damage
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>>123982005
>fishing village use for that whole internal environment, growing the snailwaifus and such
I missed something, didn't I?
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>>123982178
I want to believe that this is real
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Any tips on those two fuckers in the well?
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>>123982191
I hate how they rate weapons purely off of damage even though the moveset and versatility means so much more. Ludwig's blade is so fucking predictable that I barely ever get hit by it online.
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>>123976931

It was Sony's choice to follow suit, stop with this neogaf tier excuses, jesus christ, this is pathetic.
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>>123982005
Probably just part of the town. That's all it looks like to me from that image.

>>123982178
>19th post this thread
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>>123982005
It's really strange, the texture is undeniably rock, but also shaped like normal architecture in a rather impossible way.
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>>123982207
Just look at rocks. It's true
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>>123982319
Shaman bone blade on of them so it fights the other
Or pick up the item and accept death.
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>>123982191
There are actually people that believe the Bloodletter is useless because L2 frenzies you, which it doesn't at low insight and reasonable frenzy resist. This is the complaint I see the most.
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>>123979106
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>bloodborne discussion slows when people can't play the game
>common retort for slow threads is "we're all busy playing the game"
Myth Busted
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>>123981095
>not tomorrow theme

yuck

>>123981296
If you're deadset on making a fight be awful in your head, no one else is going to try and convince you otherwise. It's not worth the effort. I read a 7 page thread on gamefaqs yesterday about how Ludwig is the most cheap artificial difficulty boss ever in a Souls game. People and their opinions can be dumb.

If you don't like Yharnam because she has a close-proximity AoE on demand that you have to make some distance for between every combo and clone gameplay wasn't interesting at all to you, that's totally up to you. I'm not the guy who made the tier list, but to me, I liked Yharnam a lot just because the main-game did a good job building her up in vague and far from forefront kind of ways, and walking in there to fight a hemomancer who shatters her own fucking shackles and stabs herself to get some more blood flowing was pretty fucking cool. With a bigger HP pool on her (or less gems on me by the time I get down there) she could've been a god tier fight.
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>>123972550
>>123972635

Doubt it was only that. SRRC was fucked up again and finding people to summon even on the DLC areas was almost impossible. I have seen several people complaining, myself included.
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>>123982319

Strafe the anchor-wielding giant and poke him until his health is low. Then, when the other one falls down, find an opening and use a Shaman Bone Blade. The two giants will fight each other, making the fight considerably easier.
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>>123982450
huh clever...
what item tho?
does none of them drop something?
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>>123982506
Yeah. Sonething wrong was with online after patch. And lost connection error is back.
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>>123981932
>calling people weeb faggots
>on 4chan
>being upset that people are mad over not being able to emulate a boss's themes with a boss's weapon
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>>123982207
That's at least what it seems like happening. All of the slugs on the ground, either some of them grow into the snail ladies, or are mutated, not sure. Or maybe they are the parasites that were crawling in Kos' body
Just speculating

>>123982364
It is, but the fact that it's part of a mountain makes weird

>>123982368
Yes, that is what intrigued me. Also, on that picture, on the top right image, you can see that the planks are inside the rock (or whatever it is) and it has the "melting" effect a bit more obvious
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>>123982038
People know what bosses drop thanks to the guide and community finding with correlation.
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Can someone help me create a cute hunter? It's for a friend.
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>>123982489
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>the cainhurst reiterpallasch and the church guns have similar gold etched designs

there's lore here
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So, I'm torn on what to do as far as my build goes. I made a main a long time ago, I went for a str build for the most part but I also put 25 into skl... for whatever reason. Should I just restart and lose all my stuff on my main or just deal with having a lot of points into a stat I don't benifit from. Or is there a das2 type item to reset my build?
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>>123982364
Yes, it's part of the town, but it's also a massive single structure that towers over the hamlet itself and resembles a cross between a caste and a mountain. In a quaint village of wooden shacks and muddy ground, that towering, sublime edifice sticks out like a sore thumb.
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>played every single souls game on release
>hardly ever put my sign down/ring my bell to get summoned because it's boring and unrewarding as fuck

Am I the only one who feels this?

They should seriously revamp this entire coop system because it's archaic as fuck now. Not getting any loot is fucking criminal, specially for these shitty chalice dungeons. They would be so much more active if coop worked the way it should be. Also, departing automatically after a boss is killed shouldn't be a thing.
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Will Simon leave if I try to kill him and fail to.

I want the bowblade as early as possible in a new game but everything in the DLC has a ton of health.
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>>123982503
>Yharnam Queen
See? Your explanation makes it seem that much better, stabbing herself and all that.
I just felt like she was mostly there for the lore, like Micolash.

>clone fights
I like that shit, which is why I was really digging the Living Failures fight.

link to Gamefaqs thread? I want to laugh or cringe at it

>>123982710
>>123982932
>It is, but the fact that it's part of a mountain makes weird
pic related
I was going to say 'people did it in the past for ____ reasons', but now I'm wondering why they did so in a fake ocean? Surely there're no tidal waves or hurricanes.
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>>123982851
Mess around with the face generator anon, I believe in you
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Why does the nightmare not disappear when you kill its source? According to the game a dream/nightmare needs a source and a host to exist.
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>>123981467
I'm going to have to agree about the side arms. The cannon is just prenerf cannon (they could have added a different weapon and just rebuffed the old cannon), the piercing rifle a shit and has shit damage overall, gatling gun does shit damage consumes fucktons of bullets and only staggers (which I can use the fist of gratia for if I really wanted to), etc.

No love for sidearms.
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>>123983016
>brown with freckles
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>>123982859
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>>123981724
Are you fucking kidding me?

The beast cutter is garbage. It's slower than the threaded cane, doesn't do much more damage, and is easily the easiest weapon to parry in the game. The boomhammer is turbo fucking shit.
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>>123983069
Nightmares (or Dreamlands, which is what they are based on) exist in their own reality on their own accord. The might need a host/source for specific locations of access to specific locations, but definitely do not require them to maintain it
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>>123983012
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/805577-bloodborne/72915536
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>>123983069
It just needs a mind to be created. Not to be maintained. Hell Mensis is long fucking dead in the real world and his nightmare is still going.
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>>123983129
C U T E
U
T
E

>>123983241
Thanks, man.
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should i be a particular level before attempting a chalice dungeon?
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>>123983012
The stranger part is that the structure isn't merely built into a mountain, it IS the mountain. There's wooden planks embedded into solid rock and a visible rooftop with slanted features and pointed windowframes. It's uncanny alongside the hamlet, like an enormous fortress hewn in some stone facsimile of yharnam's gothic architecture, but alongside a town of utterly unassuming and simple plank huts.
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>>123983346
Think of when you got the chalice and imagine what level you were at that time
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>>123976864
That... is actually quite the good exploration for the level design on the DLC. I like it.
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>>123983069
>123983069
Gameplay consideration
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>>123983351
Great One pressence transforming world aroud. It's probably META ability of Kos. Like MP and red moon
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>>123981467
Beasthunter Saif is good? Haven't tried it.
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>>123977960
I can't wait until this magically appears in some Vaati's video

>most of my captchas ask me to pick ocean pictures when I'm posting in this general

I feel like Google is trying to tell me something. Should I /make contact/ in front of my pc?
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>>123969750
oh my
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Martyr Logarius is the most buggy boss I've fought. sometimes he gets stuck in a corner and just spam explosions, literally impossible to hit him since 2 explosions is enough to kill you. Sometimes he attach his sword that spam daggers all over the place ON THE ROOF SO YOU CAN'T DESTROY IT.
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>>123983069
If a guy builds a house and you stab him a few times the house wouldn't immediately collapse on itself
But if you stabbed the guy before he built the house then the house would never get built, so it needs that guy to exist in the first place but it's not dependent on him
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>>123983069
Consciousness is essentially another, higher plane of reality. A host is only needed to connect our lower, physical realm to the phenomenological realm of a given nightmare. The mind is like a passageway between the two. It doesn't sustain the nightmare, but simply opens its gates.

This is all extremely dualist theory of mind, by the way. Early enlightenment era science was still deeply rooted in cartesian dualism so their exploration of the physical, scientific aspects of brain and mind and mental health were very rooted in the idea that there was some separate, non-physical plane in which minded substance resided but still influenced the physical brain. Like a bluetooth receiver connecting to a signal from some other, metaphysical dimension.
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>>123983647
Don't you always?
Hoping for the day they come?
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>>123983351
I'll have to go in there and look around when I get home today. It sounds cool now.

>>123983716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj-J4NCZUAA
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It's weird how i don't seems to find attack speed frame data online in wikis but it's including in the guide? I thought they would have copied it over to the wiki already?

Hell i just found out i got a free version of the online guide and have to use playstaion docs to use it. Thinking about buying the dlc guide if only to reveal shit like this that went largely ignored, it's nothing for me and i guess it helps the community.
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>>123980478
Plebbit doesn't really like him either because that reddit autist who wrote the 90 page essay on lore was attacking Vaati and saying he lost all drive to continue lorecrafting because Vaati stole his work.
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>>123983346
You can do upper and central phturma or whatever as soon as you get it pretty much. Lower is kicking my ass even post Rom. Fuck one hit kills.
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>>123982569
lol never mind i got them both dead.
tonitrus + 10 on the first one, he blindly walks towards thr other one to "wake" him and atops attacking. I stun locked him and the other guy without the anchor weapon was ezpz.

nice find. won't spoil anything for new players tho.

Now on to beat the orphan...
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>>123983885
An upgraded Rom is the final boss of lower anyways so you should expect the dungeons leading up to it to be above Byrgenwerth in difficulty
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>>123983767
>implying there isn't a metaphysical realm that holds all our minds
>implying there isn't more
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>>123969457
Beast Cutter is great.
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>>123983541

Yes, but it isn't braindead easy to use like its progeny, the saws, which is probably why Gayfags doesn't like it. Its initial R1 makes you dash forward, and the transformation from saif to saw mode makes you dash forwards as well. It's a great weapon to use against slow or dodgy opponents-- especially during PvP because we all know that people love to spam those quicksteps. Also, the transformation attack from saw back to saif makes you dash backwards, which you can use as a nice getaway after getting a few hits in.

Basically, think of it as a slightly slower, but more mobile saw without the serrated bonus.
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>>123980478
>>123983881

Although they suck ENB's cock like no tomorrow and were protecting him like a bunch of white knights because he lied to sell his shitty guide by making people assume there was a big secret towards beast form. Then when people bitched about it he went down the path every faggot goes on the internet which is to victimize himself so the white knights can spawn.
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>>123983819
>Thinking about buying the dlc guide if only to reveal shit like this that went largely ignored, it's nothing for me and i guess it helps the community.
Day 1 buy for me. The guide may have some things a little wrong here and there, but it's beyond helpful, not to mention you can just open it up next to you instead of scrolling and surfing for the info you want.
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>>123983796
he goes down to the left corner every time I enter the fight and he just stands there spamming his magic attack. he NEVER moves away from there to attack me. If I get close, he starts spamming the exploding magic.

on my first character I never had this problem.
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>yfw upcoming Old Hunters guide will have REAL secrets
>new unregistred weapon
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>>123979594
Vaati is vermin.
ENB is a great one.
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>>123984012
The direct progression thing these chalices seem to have is breaking my balls. I'm actually just past One Reborn now and you would think I could continue on with these chalices a bit, but no. Still harder than main game by a decent chunk.
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>>123984059
This

I just stopped using the wiki when I got the guide

Re-doing chalices without the guide that /bbg/ now has was super easy with the guide, having the map and all that
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>>123984209
>ENB is a great one.

is that why he cant have a child of his own lolololol
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>>123984015
I never said cartesian dualism is wrong, nigga. Kripke makes some convincing arguments in its favour. The jury's still out on the mind body problem, but back in the time period bb's aesthetic is rooted in, there was no real alternative to cartesian dualism and no widely accepted criticism, it was simply the standard.
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>>123984350
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How much does the executed gloves do on just 20 arc in pvp?
Been thinking if I already go 15 arc for OHB I might as well grab augur and the gloves.
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>>123984350
Very smooth, very smooth
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>>123984059
Day 1 pirating the PDF more like.
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>>123984485
You can just keep a backup save so you can test when servers go up you know.
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>>123984060
That sounds like the memory leak glitch, when people would leave BB one for 12+ hours for easy boss fights.
Looks like you have the reverse then.

Might have to co-op when the servers are back up.

>>123984524
>>123984283
I don't know who scanned the original guide or if he/she plans on doing it again, but if I can I'll do the DLC guide and put it with the Wheel/FC/CD-guide albums.
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>>123984523
Nine? Is that you?
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>>123981401

Yeah I know, even though this game is also made by a sony first party studio and it doesn't make it any less of a joke because there's always something fucking up with this POS. And this is December, I can't wait until the probably upcoming christmas Lizard Squad raid on the shitty lan house tier servers Sony has for PSN that will leave it offline for a week or so.

>>123981608
If by "stable as rock" you mean unexplainable shitty download speeds for many people and the usual problems PSN has for the tremendous lack of features, yeah, sure it is. Besides, I was playing destiny in september and I remember there being maintenances that took hours on a tuesday because sony doesn't know how to turn off only a portion of the servers instead of just shutting down the whole thing up.

I wouldn't mind it much if I didn't have to pay for this trash service.
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>>123984523

Why is the witch evil now?
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>>123983819
Ugh who thought transformed Kirk Hammers attack speed was a good idea
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I get so depressed watching the dark souls 3 videos. slow as fuck combat and surprise surprise, EVERY enemy is using a shield so it takes 10 fucking minutes to kill anyone. Oh and of course the entire game is balanced around shields, so you have to use one as well. Knowing that there will never be a bloodborne sequel and that we're currently playing the last good game from software will ever make is sad.
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>>123983716
Agreed, once the fucker glitched his sword into one of the rooftop pillar things, not to mention backing up into a corner and then casting his buffs so he can't be back stabbed
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>>123984690
The same people who somehow thought that strength players using a giant hammer would appreciate being forced to use a tiny straight sword in order to dps things.
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>>123984059
It was weird to me how it always overestimated areas. How do you even really get to level 80 and get +9 weapons prenightmare of mensis? There aren't enough chunks and you won't have enough blood echoes without tons of coop or straight farming for the levels.
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>>123984889
They count as scenery like pots and shit, rolling around over them kills them and it's fun
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Lovecraft: The Great Old Ones
DeS: The Old One
Bb: The Great Ones
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>>123984889

Rude
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>>123984597
I'll try restarting my console, bloodborne has been running for at least 10 hours.
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>>123984757
>DS suddenly become bad
Are you trying into cirlcejerk or what?
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>>123984962
>Ihyll level recommendation BL140+
This is where the fucking '50 in every stat is a build' shitters came from.
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got the powder keg badge from djura but can't buy his stuff from the insight shop
wat do?
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>>123984060
Bosses can sometimes get trapped in their "get the fuck off of me" pattern when you;re pushing their shit too hard. I had a similar thing happen to ludwig and essentially pounded his first phase into a corner and went to town on his head because he wouldn't do anything but jump backwards, which didn't take him anywhere because he was already cornered. Same thing happened to Paarl my first playthrough. I think some bosses have an attack meant to escape or force the player to disengage that they're triggered to use when too much damage is dealt or too much stagger built up in a short time, and if you have the damage and stamina you can cause them to get stuck looping it.
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>>123973496
It does. Its very fast and has a knockdown. Baiting people into a transform attack is a key
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>>123985202
What happens with people/bosses whose armour you CAN buy from the insight shop?
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>>123969370
>ETA: SEVERAL DAYS

Is this some kind of sick joke
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Where are good places to get chunks?
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>>123984757
i can't even remember the last time i used a shield in dark souls, i don't see why you would use one if you hate it.
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>>123984350
ouch...
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>>123985038
Not that guy but it's still just straight up disappointing going back to DaS
Bloodborne was just so new and refreshing, it brought so much cool shit to the table but with DaS3 you're just going back to same ol' dark souls
It's a sequel so of course it's going to be new and shinier compared to the other souls games, but compared to bloodborne? You're just going back to dark souls, and that's all I feel about it

I'm gonna end up buying it regardless because it's a new souls game either way though, it's still souls so it'll still be fun
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>>123984350
Wait, did he adopt his kid?
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>>123985125
>have billions of bloechos
>no use but for leveling up to survive NG+7
>get called shitter for simply playing the game
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Holy shit I'm having so much fun with this lowlevel Strength build. Definitely need practice with Amy's hammerarm still, but my Whirligig Saw is dishing out insane damage and stunlocks, and coupled with Guidance, it is nuts.

Would you say the Cannon is worth going up 4 levels to use? I'm enjoying the Gatling Gun, but it lacks the immediate power of a BMA'd Cannon.
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>>123981953
I have an account but everytime I post something I remember why I hate the place.

You have to treat those retards like babies otherwise they downvote the fuck out of you.

Or you have to trick the contrarians inside them by starting your post with "I know I'm gonna get downvoted to hell with this but..." so they upvote you instead.

In any way, I stopped looking at that place, it's just not worth it. It feels like you're talking to some 40 year old retards who still have to look at their controllers to know which button to press next while they unironically think they have some kind of authority over anything.

For example, last week there was this idiot saying how the meta IS 120 and that now "we" should change it to 150. I then asked him what made he think that a tiny little circlejerk from reddit had any kind of power establishing any meta whatsoever, when people never agreed on a meta anywhere online and that even if they did the vast majority of players don't even look at these places and just do whatever the fuck they want. I then also invited him to create characters at many different levels so could see pvp was active pretty much everywhere and that "120" was never THE meta or anything. He got so fucking mad it was disgraceful. Then someone told him that 120 was really only a thing for demon's and dark souls 1 and even then there were many hotspots on lower levels and that it was also possible on bloodborne. He then disagreed saying they are very different games, I contested him throwing a barrage of points that showed that if it was possible on demon's souls, it sure as hell was possible on bloodborne and threw a barrage of points on him to atest him and he basically kept posting "u mad" over and over again. Reddit is that place where you go there, look for the specific info you want, grab it and imediately rush the fuck out of that thing. It's just not worth it posting on that POS.
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>>123985125
Game was not designed for "builds". Builds should not exist in BB. It's about weapon of choice, not builds. Just look at page with reccomended gems.
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>>123983016
what the fuck is that shit?
default face + shitskin amazing combo
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The Coast is the comfiest Place in the Game
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>>123973782
Bloodletter and bowblade. I dont use the chikage anymore and I generally prefer the bowblade to the evelyn. Evelyn is still good for parrying and its a quick way to deal damage with BMA so i have it and the loch shield in my left hand
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>>123984757

You could just git gud and parry everything.

What's the matter? Too afraid to parry when it's actually a risk instead of ezmode ranged?
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>Decided "hey since my next hunter will be a skill build, I'll pick the threaded cane"

This was a fucking mistake holy shit
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>>123985384
I like the combat of bloodborne, but I hate how you only have 1 way to play "FAST". There are no options. The reason miyazaki made ds3 (other than wanting to fix the mistakes of b-team) was because he felt limited when making bloodborne. He missed build variety and wacky crazy builds.

I don't see how a game with only 1 game mode is "refreshing". Faster paced for the "cuhrayzee" and twitch reaction fags, but not really refreshing.
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>>123985125
If it was about arbitrary level metas there would be respeccing and a cap.
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>>123982804
Yeah, I know that, but what I'm asking is how do they know the exact range of gems something may drop.

Like, "ok guys I created a dungeon and this boss will drop gems that will go from this arbitrarily specific value to that other one with this or that random effect in this and that shape". How can you determine specific shit like that? What gives it away?
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>>123985202
pls help
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>>123985715
Rush to the DLC anon.
Or remake with Saw and THEN rush to the DLC
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>>123985735
>No options
>1 game mode
Now that's a meme
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>>123985816
If you haven't killed him kill him. that's the only way to get his Stuff.
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>>123985831
Kind of a silly thing to do, since can starts gittin gud AFTER you have killed Vicar anyway.
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>>123983069

For obvious gameplay purposes?

Imagine how fucking shit it would be if you were imediately kicked out of an entire section of the game until NG+
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>>123985816
somebidy did.
just read your replies
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>>123985715
>tfw you remember you have a skill build finished with gems you forgot about because the pizza cutter is so good

time to test out the pick and that retarded katana
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Hows possible that there isn't a slave nigger npc considering the time period this game is inspired
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>playing through the DLC with a buddy
>we intended to do Maria solo
>have to wait days to do the Hamlet
>can't even co-op in the meantime
Fucking From, oh my god
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>>123985909
Like how you can get kicked out of whole gameplay modes in DaS1?
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>>123976954
The ocean that exists in the nightmare is not a real ocean though, its literally the cosmos that is mentioned in the game. Maybe theres an inter-dimensional ocean in the "real" yharnam too but theres no way to know for sure where the realities we see in game stop overlapping
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>>123985863
Nigga playing skill and strength is the same shit. The only thing that changes is your weapon. You are still locked into "DODGE EVERYTHING AND SPAM R1"

There is no magic, there is no reliable ranged, there is no turtling, there is no slow paced combat, there is no weird challenges like dual whips or bow only run or some shit (the only real challenge would be a torch only run, but that would be hell), there is barely any weapon variety (even after the dlc weapons, not much changed. Whirligig is just a gimmicky kirk hammer, boom hammer is garbage same with beast cutter, saif is muh epic pvp fast weapon, etc etc. The only interesting weapon in the dlc is the bowblade (and maybe bloodletter)), you can't play defensively, and tons of other shit.

There just isn't enough variety in this game. You play fast, no matter what build, you can't play another way or you die. That's why a lot of people got bored with it, and why this general was almost as bad as /dsg/ before the dlc came out.
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>>123985896
Ah ok. Thought you just had to get the badge. Thanks.
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>>123985715
I felt the same way
>start skill build
>pick cane
>hey, this isn't too bad. Whip mode is great crowd control
>move past the baby areas
>fun ends
Fucking christ, and I need another 5k Oedons before I can buy the BoM and be rid of this damageless nightmare.
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>>123985863
But he right. Just look at DS1.
>all those crazy jap pvp videos with crazy builds
>50att pyrogod
>99end autist
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>>123986178
Are the servers still fucking down?

Ah well, at least its motivation for me to get some chalices out of the way.
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>>123986370
Sup sexy?
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>>123986226
You certainly can play defensively, that's why ludwig's crutchsword exists.
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Why does blood starved beast bleed pink blood? I never noticed it until now.
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Haven't got the DLC yet. What is the new overused/overpowered weapon?
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>>123984757
I don't know where you're getting this slow combat shit from because combat on dark souls 3 is obviously much faster than the standard souls speed.
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>>123985863

I love bloodborne but you get rewarded for spamming r1 sooo much in pve it's depressing.
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>>123986226
>"DODGE EVERYTHING AND SPAM R1"
>There is no magic, there is no reliable ranged, there is no turtling
Now I can just tell you haven't even played the game
Just because you haven't tried different things in this game doesn't mean they're not there
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>>123986226
>There is no magic, there is no reliable ranged
You're so full of it
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>>123986268

Fuck now I want to rewatch all the GARO videos in dickstab forest, that was some hype shit.
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>>123985436
There's no PvE meta, so no one cares if you level up for harder content if you want to play 'easy mode'.
If you're trying to PvP with the people serious about PvP, then you stay lower to compete.

Just like the no-meta PvE, there are the shitters who are, yes, 'easy-mode PvP'.

Dupe a new character to 240 with 50everything/40End and you'll see. I lost 1 match in Mensis (was duping dregs) and didn't have 19% gems, just the ones you pick up throughout the game.

>>123985462
>You have to treat those retards like babies otherwise they downvote the fuck out of you.
Yeah, it gets old real fuckin' quick. I feel like I'm surrounded by children because you can't swear without having everyone disagree immediately.

I go there, like I stated above, for information. /bbg/ doesn't find everything out first, and even if it does and shit gets transferred there, it's much easier to find since you don't have to screencap to repost and everything is in its own thread to link.

>reddit babby
Not surprised, 2bh.

>>123985484
You must of posted pic related, which was a response to >>123969605
If not, you're both retarded. The weapons are the tools to utilize for your success, the build is the guide to get you there.
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>>123986434
more like cock starved beast looks like
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>>123986226
Eh, I'll give you a 2/10 best I can do. Alright, look, if you don't wanna go there I know a guy that knows some things about bait that can come take a look at this.
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>>123986240

I went to the saw spear and then the rifle spear.

Pretty shitty that you can't coat the rifle spear with fire or bolt though.

Dat 2h charge attack though.
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>>123986209
There isn't a single place in DaS 1 that you're locked out of after killing a boss. What the hell are you talking about?
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>>123986461
>>123986519
>hunter tools
>magic
>guns/tools
>reliable range with a very limited amount of bullets

You guys are so fucking delusional. I'm not saying the game is bad, I'm just saying it gets old quickly.

Why the fuck do you think everyone started hating this game only a year after release, yet tons of people still play das1 almost 5 years later? This general was almost dead before the dlc only getting 20-30 unique posters and all it was was tripfags and shitposter.
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Can you get Eileen's stuff if she dies to Henryk?
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>>123986783
Nigga just stop shitposting, are you really this bored?
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>>123986753
>hurr what are darkwraiths
>durr what is darkmoonblades
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>>123986461
>>123986519
>reliable range

Are you fucking kidding me? 100-200 damage with limited supply of bullets doesn't get you anywhere in this game. Even with bone marrow ash you only get 10 before having to stock up on more.

The only person i've seen able to do a gun only run was Lobos and even he said it was very very underwhelming and hard. That isn't reliable, that's like saying "you can beat the game on sl1 that means it's a reliable and good build!"

Also there is no magic in this game. Hunter tools aren't magic, stop trying so hard.
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>>123986884

You forgot your reaction pic, if you're gonna shitpost do it right.
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>>123985407
his wife was pregnant with a second child but had a miscarriage
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>>123986353
the servers will be down for several days.
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>>123985741
Bosses can drop off gems they just drop specific shaped gems in certain dungeon more than others, it's just the dungeons created that changes their typing. isz for example facing watchers in that dungeon make then drop triangles as the majority while facing them in pthumeru ihyll you get radicals. Not to mention data form the guide given stated best gems percentages are found at deepest levels.

It's just something you naturally know after a while.
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>>123986226

I think you're over exagerating some things. This DLC fixed the variety problem and even though magic was utter garbage before the patch, it's useful and fun as fuck now. Augur and Blacksky Eye are 10/10 spells that only take a single bullet to cast. I just think that a call beyond needs some buff because casting it is a chore and not worth it.
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>Oprhan of spoiler
>I'm so shit I have to go farm vials again
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So I'm not sure whether to go 25 blt / 50 skl or 25 skl / 50 blt

I'm sitting at 25 each at the moment waiting to level up.

wat do
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>>123986268
This is the one thing I have to give DaS2 credit for. The sheer volume of builds and other things they made viable and practical is staggering. That game had insane build variety outside of the shitty pvp. Being able to do pure pyromancy playthroughs and whatnot and completely change your gameplay style was a huge plus, even if the content itself was mediocre.

I'm about halfway through my second playthrough now. My first was strength and it came down to a lot of dodging into blindspots and mashing R1, and so far this skill playthrough has been the same thing. The only real difference I feel is that skill weapons are slightly better at mashing R1 in a blindspot. Outside of going pure bloodtinge (which'll be my next build), I can't really see how to fundamentally variate playstyles or optimal strategies. Everything just seems to go towards this singularity of aggressively mashing the attack button and pressuring a boss to death, and a lot of the unique features of a weapon that don't feed into that simply fall to the wayside.
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>>123987137

Hop into any high level chalice and kill like two random mooks and you'll have enough echoes to stock up again.
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>just found out about helmless Valtr

That is an awesome AWESOME detail
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>>123986783
>I can't carry 999 arrows so range isn't reliable
>You're delusional because you don't agree with me
I'm sorry man, you're just retarded
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>>123986753
Try killing NPC's and enjoy no upgrades and no pvp.
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>>123987138

What weapon are you going to use?
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>>123987137
It's cool, man, I did the same thing when soloing Maria.
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>>123987137
You'll get used to him. But if you want to kill him quick, then pop a beast pellet and bolt yourself up. You will kill him in no time
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>>123987248
But I didn't even do the first one yet
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They guy is complains about turtling not being viable in a game designed for speed. WHY are you guys responding to him?
>everything is fast xDDD
Yes fag that's the point.
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>>123987025
Holy shit man
>What are bloodbullets
>What is the bow
>Who is the guy who beat the game using only a blunderbuss
>No magic
>When there's is literally a straight rip of fireballs and soul arrows in this game right now that the player can use
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>>123983819
Not seen the OH guide, but I know that a few of the guys working on it have FGC backgrounds and that's the kind of stuff they like.
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>>123987276
I don't even know man. So many seem appealing.

Whats the chikage like?
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>>123987420
You just responded to him without replying to a post, stupid.
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>>123987006

This is just a fucking covenant, are you fucking retarded, how is that an entire area? How is that different from killing Eileen and not getting the Hunters mark for example?

>this npc is offering me a covenant
>WHAT THE FUCK? WHY AM I LOCKED OUT OF A COVENANT BECAUSE I CHOSE TO BE A RETARD AND KILL THE NPC THAT OFFERED ME TO JOIN? WHAT THE FUCK FROM, WHERE IS MY LOAD GAME?! WOOOOW

Do you also complain you can't advance some NPC quests because you killed them? What kind of DSP tier line of logic is this?
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Why do people argue about build and game variety when Miyazaki literally said himself that the game is very limited?

You guys are as autistic as smash melee autists crying about sakurai their lord and savior saying that smash isn't a fighting game nor a competitive game .
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>>123987426
That's cute
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Sorry for being a filthy dirty casual shitlord, but anyome got any reliable strats for maria? Only boss I've had trouble, way more than laurence for some reason. Cant get any parries on her 3rd phase, it's too dangerous to try most times since I'm running 20 vit and those lingering flames always get me. Fuck that anime beam attack with the follow-up slash
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>>123987420
Yes, but in dark souls you can play fast and slow. That's more variety. Why take away that variety? Not the guy you are talking about btw.
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>>123987476

Not him but don't even try to pretend being a bow user is somehow a reliable strategy in this game. And don't ignore the fact that the things you're listing, like the guy who finished the game with a blunderbuss, are things that you have to go OUT of your way to do and require a vast knowledge of the game and is NOT something that just comes off naturally in your first playthrough for example. That is like saying that going with your bare hands is perfectly viable and fine just because some autist somewhere took on the challenge. Learn the difference.
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>>123982368
>shaped like normal architecture in a rather impossible way

this is a big theme in cosmic horror, especially in lovecrafts works. What you see is definitely intentional
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>>123987780
I'm not the guy you were even responding to initially, I just wanted to point out:
>>123986209
He doesn't mention aresa, he mentions gameplay modes.

Holy shit, why are there exceptional individuals sperging all over the thread?
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>>123987837
>Miyazaki comments on how the style of game is somewhat limiting compared to what you can do with the broad genre of medieval fantasy combat
>WOW I GUESS THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO PLAY THIS GAME YOU GUYS ARE AUTISTIC TO TRY TO DEFEND IT
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>>123987098

So for example if I create some dungeon and there is an Ebrietas boss there at Isz. Ok, I know the shape, but how can I just imediately tell the possible amount of +atribute points it may give? This is what I don't understand because it seems counterintuitive.
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>>123987967
I beat her with parries, sorry. I even equipped the more parry dmg rune.

The next boss is harder imo
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>>123987137
>wasting 600 vials and bullets. you deserve to farm.
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>>123987476
>Who is the guy who beat the game using only a blunderbuss

Read the third to last sentence in the post you are quoting you illiterate fucking nigger.
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>>123987250
Wait what, explain.
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>>123987837
>game director talks shit about his previous/current game in order to sell his next as "much better"

hmm reminds me of someone else.
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>>123987780
Do you realize what beating the final boss in all games except DaS2 does to you? It locks you out of every area unless you beat the game again.
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>>123987962
That's adorable, did someone of you guys make it?
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>>123987837
>I didn't actually read that article, only the shitposting about it on /v/
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>>123984350
wait i thought he has a little girl.
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>>123988406
If you actually read the interview you would know he wasn't talking shit.
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>>123988305
where do I get 600 vials from?
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>>123987420

I don't see where you think you're going when your entire post is a strawman because that's really not what he said at all.

You people need to calm the fuck down because you're acting like fucking fanboys now.

>what?! Someone is not praising the game and telling it is flawless?! ATTACK! ATTACK! MUST PROTECT THING!

I don't agree with what he said about magic for example but he's got some points on the other things he said. Calm down you turbo autist and learn how to argue instead of acting like fucking reddit and screaming a glorified downvote to things that don't conform to your bias.
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>>123987991

Considering the way BB is designed, you wouldn't even be able to survive playing "slow'.
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>>123988505
He's assuming everyone plays the DLC after countless hours of gem farming
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>>123988014
Bow use is very reliable for pve and pvp, it's the go to in order to cheese bosses at this point
Specific runs ARE something you go out of your way to do, if you think guns are neat so you level up your gun stat for your first playthrough then you can, it may not be the best but hardly any specific playthroughs are
Your comparisons are in the extremes for no reason
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Damn, that shotgun reloading animation from the Project Beast teaser was badass.
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>>123988439
Yes
It was me, doing a few more, practising on this tablet
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>>123970136
Why fuck is it 120? That's over leveled.
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>>123988458
he has but he lost an unborn in February this year.
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>>123988436

Holy shit are you on crack? Point me out a single area on dark souls 1 where I can't come back to after I kill a boss. Go on, I'm waiting.
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"Because of the character of Bloodborne’s gameplay, its battle style, as well as the role-playing elements, it’s limited compared to the Dark Souls franchise. It doesn’t necessarily mean Bloodborne was bad. However, while working on [it] I realised, I want to [create] something which has a wide range of battle styles, or features magic, or those things which allow players to wear awesome armour. Those elements are what actually made me come [back] to the Dark Souls franchise."

And I think by armor he means actual heavy knight armor, not clothes.
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>>123988650
ok thought his kid was adopted or some shit after reading that.
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>>123988505
From 20 minutes of chalice dungeons
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>>123988623
What trailer is that from ?
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>>123988564
That's the point. Are you really this "slow"? The game removes variety so it shoehorns everyone into 1 playstyle, fast and aggressive.
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>>123988505
I think they raised the storage limit in patch 1.07. A full set costs around 450k souls in NG, which is like 15 minutes running through a depth 5 dungeon.
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>>123988704
All of Lordran after killing Gwyn until you go into NG+ ;^)
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>>123988821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx8KTIeSnzs
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>>123988821
Maybe you should actually look at the strange symbols in that post and attempt to decipher their meaning before asking such a thing.
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So I want to use the Holy Moonlight Sword. Should I focus on strength or arcane for it?
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>>123988406
I beleve in M. Just think
>idea of creating game about hunters who hunting beasts
>not simpble hunters, but magic hunters
>blood magic hunters
>blood magic hunters who hunt eldritch horrors
>in a dreams and nightmares
>and becomes squid in the end
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>>123988919
Nope.

>>123988821
This one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj6f1Q5T994
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>>123988619
Just because you can do a specific run with a weapon doesn't mean that weapon is "viable" and "reliable" though. You are missing the point.

I can play through DaS1 on an SL1 with the Caestus. Does that mean the Caestus is a good weapon? Does that mean the Caestus is a viable way to play? No
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>>123988619

>pve

Not really, you'll be plowing through vials and bullets to deal some damage that isn't particularly high. It feels like a chore more than anything, whereas on the other games you just equip a bow and enchant it with some kind of damage and you can just go on naturally with hundreds of arrows not worrying about some tiny amount of resources. Plus you have a plethora of different bows to choose from. Not even close to the same thing at all.

I was personally looking forward to archer runs but it's more of a chore than anything else and I just felt like I was losing my time instead.

>pvp

No. Any decent player won't fall for this and you have to play exceptionally well and trick the fuck out of your opponent to land hits. Against any decent player it's a "meh" weapon at best. I really like the untricked -> tricked shot but that's about it this weapon has going for it.

>Your comparisons are in the extremes for no reason

I don't see how yours are any different because you're citing like one or two CHALLENGE runs as actual variety in a normal gameplay scenario.
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Those fucking giants you need to kill for the Rakuyo

Any tips?
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>>123971984
"circlejerk" is a meme now

it's literally 4chan whining about inclusivity
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>>123988876
I knew about the upped storage limit.
But I never got to a depth 5 dungeon cause they bore me.

but they sound feasible. If I keep on sucking against the orphan i will give it a try...
he was almost down just minutes ago. His jumping and throwing exploding orbs was unexpected
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>>123988167
Oh, ok. Well There is a maximum given in the guide(which was actually wrong by a percentage) and ONLY bosses can drop the maximum. So say you're farming a boss and you see the shapes are more or less consistent and you keep repeated getting arcane % up etc, you already know the bosses loot table has a maximum damage gem it can drop since as i stated before only bosses can drop that. So Going back to watchers as an example, you'll may get 25% attack up, 24.2% attack up etc but you already know for sure it has a loot table of that maximum gem's damage number, it's just a matter of getting it to drop.
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>>123989056
>Caestus

Actually it was very viable in dark souls 2, specially with poison. The thing truly shined at pvp also.
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>>123989076
shaman bone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXiugvo3Qsk
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>>123987138
50skl/25blt will allow you to use all of the pure skill weapons like the BoM, BB, Rakuyo, etc. optimally, while also still allowing you to get some decent use out of Chikage, Bow Blade, etc.
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>>123989076
read the thread. i asked before
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>>123988650
Apparently, he said on leddit that his wife had another miscarriage after the first one.
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>>123989248
Why Blt?
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>>123989351
Jesus Christ
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>>123971069
Yamamuras.
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>Tonight Gehrman's joins the hunt

>Aaah you were at my side all along

>What's that smell?

What are the best moments for you, /bbg/?
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>>123984350
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tell me, what's the point of having the player run for 2 minutes back to the boss if you die? You've unlocked the shortcut, you don't need to kill any enemies, you just need to run for a good solid minute or two.

are you suppose to reflect on your strategy or some dumb shit? "okay he killed me in one combo I didn't know he had"

what a pointless design choice.
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>>123988905
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>>123989351
>all those y'alls

Why does he feel the need to bring his hick dialect into text?
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>>123989351
I heard all of the podcast and didn't get thst he was talking about ANOTHER one. I thought he was speaking of the first one.

Sucks desu
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>>123989476
Not played the game since Feb. Context with quotes?
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>>123989171
and the highest physical damage up for gems is 27.2% so if you have thewill power it can easily be achieved if you farm long enough you'll see a 27.2, same goes for other gem types and other bosses.
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>>123989351
>Bad sperm
>no baby

Fuck bloodborne.
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>>123989351
He married the wrong woman.
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>>123989351
>2 fucking miscarriages wtf
so enb should have 3 kids now?
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>>123989591
whoops
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>>123989351
>consecutive miscarriages

when do these idiots take the hint and stop trying to reproduce?

probably never. gotta have a kid, right?!
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>Fighting Ludwig for the first time
>think it's just another beast boss albeit a cool looking one
>the cutscene prompts
>"Ah you were at my side all along."
>his theme kicks in
>his name changes to Ludwig, the Holy Blade
>that fucking Moonlight energy wave attack

Holy fuck I wasn't prepared for this, it's too good.
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>>123989513
Because Miyazaki has this phobia of impossible space and compulsively tries to fit everything together even if it means you run need to take 3 elevators or a several minute jog through a barren path to refight the boss.

I recall Izalith being particularly bad for this.
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>>123989476
+
>The night brims with defiled scum, and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think, now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content!
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Assuming equally skilled players with the best gems available

Who would win between a full Beastman and an Ayy Lmao?
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>>123989757
already has one.
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>>123989351
>white sperm not compatible with japanese waifu?
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Daily reminder that this game didn't even make it an entire year before it had to be resuscitated with dlc.
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>>123982038
They don't drop anything but physical droplets. Sorry mate.
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>>123989204
>>123989204
npc in-fighting is a gift from god
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>>123989476
>Ludwig
>fight intense as fuck
>2nd phase begins
>dat cutscene
>music from trailer begins
>hype coming back tenfold
>string instrumentals hit, think of trailer
>the night brims with defiled scum and is permeated by their rotten stench
>eyes tear up, making the fight harder
>chest heavy, hard to breathe
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>>123989810
Beastman

Ayys are too slow
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>>123989828
reminder that this game will never come out on PC
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>>123989070
The game has rebalanced a lot and is very different from souls, it's all still there but it just requires more from you
Just because it isn't exactly like how you played souls doesn't mean the variety's not there

Why do you think everything is a super hard challenge run through the game, it really isn't in the way you're putting it
Literally any run with any playstyle is a challenge run, you have a goal to play your way and getting it is the challenge
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>>123989810
Ayy has complete advantage. The new moveset doesn't really make the beast claws much less shit, it's just more fun for pve. Parasite has reach and an actually good moveset. Its slow attacks multihit, have long active time perfect for rollcatching and reach, while it also has lightning fast ones like the dodging attack.
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>>123989757
He already has one. He said in a video that he wanted 3.
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>>123989673
Well 2 possibly. I'm betting if the second didn't turn into a miscarriage they wouldn't have tried for a third.

>>123989667
Could be. Christmas Cake women (women over 25 in japan) basically can't marry with japanese since the japanese men disown them for being too old so they usually end up marrying foreigners (marcus). And normally women over 25 start losing their ability to have healthy babs. I mean yeah, women can have kids in their 30s but it's much less common and a lot usually come out with disabilities like autism or some physical deformity. And then once a woman is in her 40s it's basically game over.
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>>123989810
AYYLIUM will win.
Beast mode has shit tracking.
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>>123987991
>That's more variety. Why take away that variety?
variety isn't always good. honestly it's becoming kind of a swear word to me. all my favorite games now take away options, especially the competitive ones. the most competitive game i know of is Go and that has like, no options at all. whereas a game like Magic is not very competitive and i'm sick of them

metagaming is ultimately so irrelevant to actual playskill. people fuss about the dumbest buildshit and it has nothing to do with core skills. the core skills in a game are way more important than the "variety," and variety is especially terrible when it lets you cut out core skills

for example, spellcasting in demon's/dark souls is fucking shit because it replaces the excellent core combat with a plinky homing arrow game that is significantly worse. yes, i want to cut that out of the game even if some poeple like it, some people want checkpoints too and some people want difficulty settings. fuck that
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>>123989810
AYY
Beastman is stake driver tier
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>>123989070
Just end it, you're literally downplaying the single weapon that trivializes every single boss fight in the game, it's that overpowered.
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>>123989810
Ayy lmao
Ridiculous range and hyperarmor through those tentacles with great damage and an L2 that actually does something
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>>123989828
Unfortunely this game is already dying.

I blame the fact that they didn't get rid of the fucking bell maiden garbage.

Fortunely we still have DaS3 to look forward to.
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>>123989768
The DLC is really fucking great and I'm enjoying it so far.
All the locations are original and consume you whole.
The whole atmosphere, pacing of tension is 11/10. The first experience is always the best in those regards.


The new weapons are also pretty good.
I hope you already found the amygdalan arm in the hunter's nightmare. it's my new favourite weapon.
I'm the vial farming frog shitter from above btw and after 9 hours of work, an 2 hour exam and a few hours bloodborne I will just quit for today.
I hate quitting before beating the boss but I'm too drained right now.


/blog
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>>123989772
But izalith was actually a rushed portion of the game. That isn't really fair to compare the dlc, or any of the other games, with that.
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>>123990052
>I want 3 children and I'm prepared to put my wife through consecutive miscarriages to achieve this goal
>it's really draining on me, I really want more kids!

jesus. we really need a mass human genocide.
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>>123988865
That's the whole point of the game. It was made for the fast aggressive style, even the lore reinforces that armor is pretty pointless since beasts just don't give a fuck. Not to mention fucking heavy armor doesn't make sense in the setting.

The variety in Bloodborne lies in the weapons having vastly different move sets and strengths.
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Alright you fucks. Give me the best HMLGS stat build.
I know it's not arcane. So it must be strength right? Is it optimal at 89 or 98?
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>>123989513
yeah dark souls should definitely checkpoint you at the boss gate

i'd also like some phase checkpoints, it sucks having to fight ludwig's phase 1 over and over again when i already know how to do it
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>>123990242
so edgy
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>>123976608
It's visible from most of Yharnam
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>>123990278
50 str 50 skill and 50 arc
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>>123990075
The threshold for birthing issues is usually somewhere in the mid 30's. It's exceptionally odd for a healthy woman in her 20's to have difficulty taking a pregnancy to term and usually indicates a pre-existing issue.

And, in all honesty, if she's healthy then it's entirely possible that the problem lies with the father's side of the genetic material
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Looks like Valtr is voiced by Jason Pitt, the guy who voiced Vengarl. Hope he'll voice someone in DaS3 as well.
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>>123990242
I bet you think you're really smart, huh?
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>>123990143
>talking about souls games
>brings up competitive games

Fighting game rejects looking for "honarabu duels" need not apply.
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>>123988865
>shoehorns everyone into 1 playstyle, fast and aggressive.
this is a good thing. i don't want to play against your turtle wizard. i gained utility points. if you lost them well, maybe the game is not for you
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>>123990242
lmao. enb needs some waifu skills.
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>>123990365
Why didn't I think of that you're brilliant.thanks.
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when should I go do the dlc areas?

I just killed vicar and the witches of hemwick, and I got the messenger saying to go to the nightmare, I'm level 34
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>>123989882
>listening to it now
>same feeling
New favorite theme from ost for sure.
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>>123990271
Don't forget all the dead guys in fluted armor in the chalices. Some people just can't take a hint.
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>>123990389
Well we don't really know how old his wife is. In fact i don't even know how old marcus is. I assume they are late 20s early 30s, but they could be late 30s for all I know.
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>>123989882
>He looks at the Moonlight Greatsword
>Ahh, you were at my side -- All along!
>My true mentor...my guiding moonlight!
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>>123990397
Is Befuddled Villager supposed to be the guy with the sick rhymes ?
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>>123984973
Does anyone have this in higher res?
Reverse searching it only leads me to patreon shit
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>>123990292
then why the arbitrary distance for different bosses? lamp for Maria is right outside the fight chamber, the lamp for forbidden woods is 5 minutes away. you need to run for a solid 2 minute to get back to the boss in cainhurst.

if there was an actual reason: you had to fight enemies or reactive something in the world for the boss to unlock it would make sense, but it's just running.
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>>123989248
Noice, guess I'll go with that then. Thanks.
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>>123990242
haha I know dude, the chikage is my favorite weapon too!
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>>123990632
Kos.
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>>123990479
I went there after the one reborn.
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>>123990242
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>>123990427
there's a ton of games where you compete against the system, like outbreak. i mean you kind of have to or the game has literally no concept of victory or defeat

you don't need MLGPRO bullshit to know that soul arrow is bad gameplay
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>>123990397
It amazes me that from games manage to have such a consistenly outstanding voice cast and performance while most japanese videogames end up with these abhorrent dumpster-tier dubs recorded in texas. What's their secret?
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Do I need to have reached a specific point in order to prompt my transport to Cainhurst?

I got the invitation but the monument won't trigger the chariot
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>>123989476
http://vocaroo.com/i/s06DbnpOqKYC

I shat myself when it was the doll
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>>123990479
Recommended level is around 60. I went there at 50 with +6 weapons and it kicked my ass, but in the best possible way. I'd recommend the same.
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If ENB is a great one then what is vaati?
>>
>>123990191

Dark Souls 3 will still be the same garbage. People with summons will be at the top of the priority list for invaders and it seems like there's an HP penalty again.

Miyazaki is a fucking idiot. He's shitting on the one mechanic this fucking series invented to pander to one or two babies who cry because he was invaded once - MAYBE - by someone with better weapons than him.

This is why I'm actually looking forward more to a demon's souls remaster to have unrestricted fun instead of this casual padding garbage they are doing by completely ruining invasions.

I loved getting the thrill of progressing normally through a level and being naturally invaded by people and then taking a break from PvE by invading them back. It felt really good and diversified. It made every playthrough unique, but not let us shit on our cool mechanic guyze, that will do us good.

Meanwhile, Dark Souls 2 is dead as all fuck and so was Bloodborne merely months after the DLC. Gee I wonder what will hapenn with dark souls 3, specially since there won't be anything close to Nightmare areas since they made the bell maiden thing a worldwide requirement.
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>>123990936
quit n reload
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>>123990936
Kill witches.
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>>123990870
I they hire an English company.
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>>123984639
You don't know what you're talking about. It's destiny the game that has continously have had maintenances just like how bloodborne and any other souls game ro date has had them.
Sony usually posts their maintenance schedule up at least 2 weeks before, and you won't get affected if you're logged in before it.

As for download speeds that has been fixed after the 3.0 PlayStation update. If it's still fucked with you you'll have to open up the right ports.

I don't defend it being a paid service, but you sure pick the wrong reasons to be mad senpai
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>>123990296
>I can't form a reply to someone on the internet so I'm just gonna write edgy

it's okay, you'll get there someday!

>>123990407
I think I'm pretty average. I would probably let my dream of an arbitrary number of children go after my wife had gone through consecutive miscarriages.

but hey, that's really edgy to say, right?!
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>>123990702
there are actually tons of enemies along the way in cainhurst, it's just running because it's rational to run past them

whether you're fighting or running it's a form of punishment and probably someone would be complaining about it, whihch i think is the whole point
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>>123990870
Because there's a big difference between the original voice cast hired and some third rate drop-outs dubbing anime game. The original audio is always superior.
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I want to do a Skill/Bloodtinge build. Any weapon/stat recommendations?
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>>123990996
the skeptical man
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>>123990870
>What's their secret?
Frognation (UK based company) handles the dialogue script translation, English voice casting and dialogue recording. Looks like From made the right choice with them.
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>>123990824
>>123990960
ok thanks
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>>123990278
Its quality, go 25/25 then more str if you want more damage but it scales almost as good in skill too
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>>123991000
>and so was Bloodborne merely months after the DLC
awkwaaaard wording

desu i liked bloodborne better when it was "dead"
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>>123991210
Yeah I fucked up. I meant merely months after release.
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>>123990870
>>123991049
frognation, they also help with the translations on names and text and shit, and Miyazaki takes great care when it comes to that stuff
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>>123972174
Can you record them ? These seem to be the "Baneful Chanters" that are mentioend in the credits.
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>>123991067
Am I missing something? His wife only just had her second miscarriage. Is it so weird that'd they'd want to try again after it happened once?
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I'm so sure there is 18% physical droplet gem in Mensis, but I just can't find it.
Anybody can explain to me where it was?
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>>123991000
>and it seems like there's an HP penalty again
Obviously. Invasions aren't supposed to be fair duels no matter how much you want them to be.
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>>123991431
where the brain ladies are.
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>>123990242
>unzips katana
learn to argue on the internet...kid...
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>>123991152
>Looks like From made the right choice with them.
No doubt. I was really impressed with the amount of characters that spoke in verse and the quality of both the word choice, diction and delivery. Considering how fundamentally incompatible japanese and english are when it comes to poetry and flowery, artistic language it's really impressive they managed to accomplish what they did. I chuckled a few times through the dlc when I suddenly realized a character had been speaking in verse all along, and the little details like the muttering NPC at the entrance to the Hamlet and the narration after you slay the nightmare were perfect.
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>>123991052
I'm not talking about destiny's servers, I'm talking about the morning PSN maintenances that took up to 4 or 6 hours each time and they go like "it's an emergency!"
>>
sliders never
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>>123990996
>>123984209
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>>123991071
my point is that it's not a consistent form of punishment in the game. some time you only need to run for 20 seconds, other times several minutes. but that's all you do, run. there's no reason to clear the area again and again.

"if you die on this boss, there's no time punishment, but this one there is."
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>>123991202
Maybe I'll just go to BL98 on my SKL build then. Sitting at 50SKL 16STR and 6ARC, but she's only BL89. I could hit minimum HMLGS requirements and have 50SKL at BL98. Should I? Or would making a STR/quality character be better overall?
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>starting a STR twink
>grabbing DLC weapons in like a hour and upgrading whirligig to +7 before even being done with old yharnam
>can upgrade amygdala's arm to +6 from leftovers as well
>all this immeasurable amount of fun from both of them
God DLC really made the game much more enjoyable.
>>
Did the DLC add in lethal gems? I seem to remember hearing that they were a thing now, but I'm not sure where to get them.
>>
new bread when?
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>>123991000

Funny thing is, as dead as DaS2 is, I can log in, hit a cracked orb and invade within 10 seconds.
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>>123983069
>according to the game

No. The game never says anything about the Nightmare being dependant on anything. It's an assumption based on Micolash's title which is a rough translation
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>>123991679
LMAO.
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>>123991601
>you will never hold hands with maria
>>
i hope this downtime kills the game again so that the thread will no longer be filled with shitposters
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>>123991523

And how the fuck did you get that from what I said? Jesus christ.

Yeah, invasions are not meant to be fair duels, you get into someone's game to fuck them up. But it doesn't mean it has to be a completely one-sided shitfest like bloodborne and dark souls 3 are gonna be.

The only thing this does is remove all the fun from the first playthrough of someone who never summons like me because you're never gonna get invaded. And you also have no reason to invade yourself because you'll be put against a ganksquad 100% of the time.

Ironically, they do this to avoid twinking while what this does is enforce twinking to every invader because From is actively trying to kill invasions. It fucking butchers the best thing of online this game had going for it and takes away from the chaotic experience.
>>
>>123991757
Same, at least with the SotFS edition, I can go to tower of flame and invade immediately
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>>123991883
found the bitter dsg shitposter.
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>>123991716
i literally just finished this build, it was fucking fun as hell

>>123991686
probably the more likely you are to die the less punishing it ought to be, since dying 20 times is punishment enough
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>>123991530

That bridge with three brain ladies?
I'm there right now, but theres literally no gem here.
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>>123991883
>waaaaaa muh hugbox I can't deal with different opinions waaaaaa

Grow up you fucking child. Go back to reddit.
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New

>>123991832

New

>>123991832

New

>>123991832
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>>123991000
Dark Souls 3 is going full retard with 4 vs 1.
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>>123991883
You're not going to get rid of whining bitches simply because of the connection this game has with the souls series. Get over it.
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>>123991883
>this thread is best when it's filled with a bunch of fucking retards that sit around and circlejerk around lv98 characters

feel free to go eat shit and kill yourself.
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>>123992047
hugbox is a meme

reddit is a meme, too

how much money would i have to give you to let you by an original joke
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>>123991000
But anon, demons souls has an HP penalty. And invaders get 2 estus for every summon they kill and can chug.
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>>123992037
it is there. its in a nook between the 2nd and 3rd one. its a droplet gem.
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>>123990870

Because there is no Japanese voice for From games, the audio is English with Japanese subtitles on release, so the company makes sure to hire good people, it's not handled by some shabby localization team.

Japanese voice was made available for BB in this DLC, which is a first for souls games.
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>>123992145
the funny thing is i have inevitability

unless you want to be 4kings guy there is literally nothing you can do to keep this thread from becoming comfy again in a couple months
>>
>>123992187
You'd only have to grow a backbone but that is obviously far off your capacities so it's not gonna be a thing.
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>>123992196
An HP penalty which you can largely offset with a ring and it's still a 1vs1 scenario where you have the whole environment of monsters at your side to offset the rest of the disadvantages. Pretty balanced to me.

>>123992085
You can summon 3 ghosts in dark souls 3? Holy shit I'm not even gonna touch invasions on that game then.
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>>123992356
that doesn't make sense, is that the joke?
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>>123992510
You can summon 3 in SOTFS
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>>123991572

My favorite part aside from the VA'ing is that all the shit is spelt properly too, honour instead of honor, colour instead of color.
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>>123986370
That face looks just like the angry Executioner glove skulls
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>>123991716
STR twinks are so fucking fun thanks to the Hunter's Nightmare. Whirligig Saw also makes Mensis winter lantern farming insanely easy.
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>>123991523
Well, sometimes a fair duel is what you want. That's why the read soapstone sign and fightclubs, or the DaS2 arena existed. Arbitrarily applying a health penalty so the invader is forced to either utterly crush the host via minmaxing or only fight them indirectly is silly, especially when the overwhelming majority of the time, the invader is already the one facing a disadvantage because it's a 2/3/4v1 scenario in which the host can continuously summon new, un-penalized players into his world as they die, with absolutely no cooldown or limitation.

At some point the mountain of mechanical disadvantages simply stop being fun, and those disadvantages have only been increasing between games. The only saving grace of bloodborne's invasion system is that the game's damage system is horribly imbalanced and allows you to literally instantkill unprepared hosts and phantoms if you're prepared for it
>>
>>123991108
25 skill 50 tinge
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>>123991067
You're making the assumption she doesn't want kids as well in this scenario.
>>
>>123972387
>low tier
>holy moonlight sword
when will this fucking meme end?? Have you used it??
>>
>>123984350
Amazing
>>
Is STR/ARC a viable combo? Or is its only purpose to make the Holy Moonlight Sword work?
>>
>>123993815
HMS is a quality weapon, so your build would be more quality/arc than anything else. Arc is almost entirely optional as it only boosts the damage of the R2s, and they're decent enough on their own

The only real str/arc weapon in the game is the wheel
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>>123976898
i know how you feel. started my arcane char today and lost 50k souls in chainhurst and another 50k in chalice dungeon while i tried dkilling the fire dog with a fire saw cleaver 21dmg charged r2 for life.
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>>123990242
yeah bro....we need more people dead....people who arent like us, get your katana, its cutting time.
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>>123994773
>and they're decent enough on their own

Do you know how much different the beam damage is between 15 and 50 arc?
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>>123991000
PVP invasions are cancer and you should feel bad for whining that they're not fair. I will constantly roll with 3 friends in DS3 and we will fuck your antisocial permapizza shit up.
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>>123995938
in pvp its like 380-400 with 50, with 15 its 98-100. You would get a lot more damage out of the L2 and the swings with a quality build focusing on strength. The only 100% pure arcane move on it is the moon beams, and unless you wanna farm the ever so rare 27% arc ATK up gems then I suggest you go physical if you want more damage.
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>>123996232
And I'll be fucking your shit up with a twink, you casual shitstain who needs 3 people to hold your hand at all times to beat the game.
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