/kspg/ Kerbal Shit Posting General and trip hating general

Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhVA84YNO14 [Embed]

Dev Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2lDHNmRFw [Embed]

/kspg/'s (outdated) modlist and FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/vrFCBFYk

NEW MODLIST. Old FAQ is still retained above.
http://pastebin.com/vM6CE7YJ

>Game site
http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/download.html

>KSP mods
http://www.curse.com/ksp-mods/kerbal

>Flags
http://imgur.com/a/lIHNS#0

>Party-approved rendezvous tutorials
http://imgur.com/a/S3Qxf
http://i.imgur.com/PBuWyVx.jpg

>Some useful calculators
http://alterbaron.github.io/ksp_aerocalc/
http://ksp.olex.biz/

>Official forum
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/

>Hotkeys for operating your craft that are never mentioned anywhere else.
http://pastebin.com/vLmE1QbY

>Official /kspg/ fan fiction
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10607988/1/Structural-Failure
http://pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if

>List of IRL launches.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

>View from the ISS:
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/HDEV/

>Race Into Space
http://www.raceintospace.org

>Original BARIS for DOSBox scaling and filters and shit
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/183/Buzz+Aldrins+Race+into+Space.html

BARIS, Orbiter, Space Engine, OpenTTD, Bonnie Tyler, Snek with Job, Take On Mars, ULA posting, and planes are also welcome ITT.

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first for saturn v

The thread died before I could post this one there.

Welcome all refugees. Except forum refugees.

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Second for peace and love

>>123942680
Is that real? Give link pls.

odds sleep
evens build wall

>>123943098
https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/3ux6w4/perfectly_captured_booster_separation_from_recent

>there is a chance we will never see humanity set foot on another world in our lifetime
kill me

>>123945091
I'd like to think that someone will do something between now and 2080
Or at the very least, life extension/immortality will happen, and I might get it, which would push back that date quite a bit

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https://ideas.lego.com/projects/121473
Fucking neat

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>>123945639
I like it.

>>123945639
Hot glue when

>>123946290
Does hot glue form airtight seals? Is it acceptable for space construction?

>gets bombarded with hate because of the trip
>n-no i won't trip anymore, i swear!
>trips to make a new thread

Literally kanker

>>123946489
I don't know if it's airtight, but they do use super glue to repair shit up there.

>>123945639
Actual solar powered model that acts as a wifi booster when?

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I love you, Scatterer-senpai!

>profit motive is the only thing that humans respond to
>there is too little profit to justify sending humans to other planets
>we will stay on Earth until a catastrophe ends human civilisation permanently

>>123945639
small but great

>>123953474
And life will go on. Maybe another intelligent species will evolve over time. Maybe lizard people.
>still in a rather barbaric state
>finds human ruins
>praising them as god temples
>their religion is all about finding humans since they believe we were gods
>technological advance much faster by studying our old technology
>find the ISS in orbit I know it wwould have been fallen out of the sky by now, but let's ignore that
>find human DNA
>clone humans
>see that they're not gods
>use them as slave workers

>>123946047
Why aren't all the solar panels pointing in one direction? Shouldn't they always point at the sun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj1AesMfIf8

>>123953474
>profit motive is the only thing that humans respond to

but that's wrong
what isn't is the corrupt fuckers in charge only respond to that

>>123955647
The problem is that the easily exploitable minerals in the Earth have already been depleted. A future civilisation, beginning from scratch, would have stone tools but no easy copper, iron or whatever deposits to mine, leaving them stuck forever in the stone age.

>>technological advance much faster by studying our old technology
Not sure how plausible that is, sadly. Advanced technology would effectively be magic to a primitive people (it's effectively magic to most of us, let's be honest) but maybe with simple things it could be done. All our technology would probably have degraded to uselessness long since anyway - how much stuff from the Greco-Roman era survived without being specifically preserved or transcribed? That's only 2000 years.

>>123956338
Now I'm sad.

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>>123955647
daily reminder that the guidestone is real

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DED
E
D

>>123952134
I love you too anon.

>tfw scatterer anon will never tell you that he loves you

>>123958737
So, how's the update going? Stock water is depressing.

Why does youtube recommend me the amazing atheist?

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>>123956736
It's funny because it's located in America.

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>>123961538
Oh wait, you can say that about most of these things.

>>123961786
Almost like China.

I just realised 4chan changes c.uck with kek, when posting.
It tries to hide cancer with more cancer.
Like wiping your ass with a turd

Im so lazy that I don't wanna put together my pc. I been shitposting from my phone for the past three days.

>>123964301
Wanna come over so we can shitpost together?

>>123962414
Almost like most nations.

>>123962790
Only faggots use that word anyway, meme master.

>>123953474

People that provide actual breakthroughs do not care about profit. Profit motive only matters when resources are needed. However, there is a ton of profit to be made in being the first to produce something a smart person thought up.

>>123954016
His daughter is cute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHbEMCSHF8

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>>123961786
>A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones[9] in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.
>Hebrew

Can't say I'm surprised.

>>123961786
what a dumb rock

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>>123964957
>no German
Why does it hurt me that much?

>>123964356
You may have missed when I told that I JUST REALISED this thing, meaning I never used the meme and only noticed because of the suspicious increase in "kek", " keked", etc and I decided to test.

Calm your tits

>>123965221
Sorry for any offence caused, big guy.

>>123965182
he realized that germany wouldn't survive past 2030

>>123965221
Relax.

Same with tb.h and fa.m

I'm pretty happy with that change. Those where just dumb [s4s] memes that escaped from there.

>>123965389
t͏bh i'm not sure why you're acting as though they've gone anywhere f͏am

s͏mh at these anti-meme c͏ucks

>>123965387
>2028
>Germany and France unite
>new nation called Gerance
>slowly starting to eat up the remaining states of the EU

>>123965487
>gerancian neocaliphate

>>123965487
>Germany and France unite
>adopt a new Franco-Germanic interlanguage
>English

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>>123965578
niceme.me

>>123946967
I did it just for you

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>door rings
>mail man
>gives me packet for roommate
>gives me two additional packets for other people living in the house
>puts notes in their mailbox so they can come to my room later and pick it up
>have to talk to two new people today
FUCK

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Lelsokerbal

>>123966524
I don't get it.

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Laugh at my design, /kspg/.
For some reason it's just not generating enough thrust and lift. I can barely take off and maintain level flight near ground level, any maneuvers including turning or climbing will just cause it to stall.
I loaded up one of the default jets to compare, it uses mostly the same parts but has two engines instead of my six and goes faster, and less wing surface than mine but generates more lift at the same speed. Why?

>>123966768
Just stop posting KSP. It doesn't belong here.

>>123966768
The small jets have horribly low thrust. Don't use them on such a big spacecraft.

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>>123966880
This is one of the default aircraft and flies like a charm. It has the same tiny engines and only 2 of them.

>>123966987
Well, that's strange.

How much does your craft weigh? How much the default jet?

>>123966768
Just clip wings inside of each other. Stock aero can't tell the difference

>>123967178
Thanks, it seems weight was the problem. Didn't realize that most of the default jet's fuselage is empty or just crew quarters and I packed mine full of fuel. Even though my jet is only a bit larger, it weighted 4 times as much.

>>123966273
>replying to 7 hours old posts

>>123966295
just leave it outside your door, anon

>>123968346
I was sleeping!

I'll sometimes go 12-24 hours without checking /kspg/ these days. Expect more replyies to old posts.

>>123968352
But then people will steal it.

>>123968437
lol replies

was not paying attention to the text box I was typing in.

>>123968437
>not having /kspg/ opened 24/7

>>123968727
My emminence seems to get certain anons assblasted. They just are so mad I got Max fired they can't stand themselves.

>>123968520
It was their fault for not being home when it was delivered. This is actually the logic in NYC

>quickload a save
>spacecraft literally disintegrates on level flight mid-air
HOW THE FUCK COULD THEY STILL NOT FIX THIS

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Do you like them dirty /kspg/?

>>123969291
I like it more clean unless it's 2D.

>>123969141
>spend hours tweaking a jet
>crash into terrain at not 90 degree angle
>craft goes through surface
>ragequit and go to sleep
>next day, fire up craft, doesn't handle the same
>literally feels like someone tweaked the physics values overnight
>orbits begin to spaghettify
>camera flung away from craft at greater than the speed of light
>KSC camera fundamentally broken
>save won't load

>>123969291
Perhaps a little too much green. Sea water in my experience is a little closer to brown when it has a dirty shade to it.

>>123969427
>build a small Duna lander
>save before descent
>go down
>exploding due to head
>reload
>random explosion everytime

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>>123969470
>>123969419

Is there any point at which it becomes more efficient to burn straight up and circularize in high orbit? It seems to me like all the "added" drag of beginning your turn early is bad.

>>123969654
Silly scatterer anon. That doesn't look like sea water at all.

>>123969654
That'd be a good look for Laythe's crescent cove, but it's far too tropical for anything else

>>123969620
That seems more like a player problem... you need to manage the heat, but don't follow real life rules to do so

Also if you ever get it right you won't remember everything you need to do to replicate it.

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>>123966556
:^)

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>>123969734
How about now?

>>123969786
I was just playing around but that's a good idea actually, since water color is one of the ocean settings that can be changed in realtime and not require an ocean rebuild (0.5s stutter) I could see adding color to different predefined areas on the future.

>>123969786
>That seems more like a player problem...
It's a player problem that my rover explodes when I reload?

>>123970026
Is that how water looks in America?

>>123969654
LEL SO FALLOUT

>>123970026
I wish the surface of Jool looked like that. And I'm glad you like the idea.

Can you explain the logic behind the name "scatterer" -- I know what atmospheric scattering is but it seems like you're now going beyond just atmo.

What's your ultimate scope for this? Can you improve the shitty trees scattered across the landscape too?

>>123970026
Could be done with a color map, to keep things simple.
I'm sure someone will tweak that when you'll release it.

>>123970334
Basically I just picked a name that sounded good. There was a mod called "chatterer" at the time and my initial scope for the mod was to add atmospheric scattering so I thought why not call it scatterer.

After I had the basic proland atmospheric scattering running I realized I had set up most of the framework and it would be much easier to port more of the proland features over so I thought why not give it a try. Probably you're right about the name not really applying anymore but I like the name scatterer so I'll keep it for now.

I actually thought about doing the trees too but haven't investigated it seriously yet. I've seen a mod that makes the terrain scatter collidable but also changes the scatter models, I could probably start working off that. Better yet would be to disable that system and use the proland forest generator but I'm going to need the terrain heights for that and the PQS system is really slow for returning heights so it might not work for more than 20 trees at a time, Although I can imagine a LOD system for "tree heights".

Features I'm thinking about seriously include water interacting with craft, light shafts and full sunglare system replacement that supports any resolution and i s more tweakable than the unity flare system used right now.


>>123970392
>color map

You mean a color picker in the UI? Yeah probably I could add that, don't feel like looking for it now but I'll do it later.

>>123971543
Does terrain scatter still cause memory leaks?

>>123971543
More like a texture to map all the planet and color the water.
But I realize as I write this it might not be possible if the whole ocean has an uniform color.
I'll take a look at your shader and mess a lot with the code, if it's ok with you.

>>123972124
Yeah knock yourself out.

Indeed the whole ocean has a uniform color which complicates things. I thought for local spots you could fade it in as you approach them and if the camera is below a certain altitude, when higher up it could all have a global ocean color.

>>83849523
>being this mad about replying to old posts

>>123972092
No idea, I didn't even know it causes memory leaks.

>>123971543
Thanks for the answers. The only reason I question the name is because I think it is beginning to do a disservice to the base mod to just call it "Scatterer" -- it's more like "polisher" -- but I know that's a bad name and scatterer looking like

>>123973074
holy fuck I am becoming retarded, I really cant shitpost and work. I dont even know what I was gonna say

oh wait.. maybe I do. Scatterer looking like chatterer is super cute

>>123972092
Yep.

Thanks for backing me up Mirk

>>123966295
>gives me two additional packets for other people living in the house
Is that even legal?
There's a junkie in a flat in my house. I wouldn't want him to get my parcels.

>>123974436
It's a normal thing to do here. But the mailman takes the name of the guy who takes the packets, just in case something happens. So I can't just throw them out of the window,

And 1 packet is gone already. A cute chinese girl came by.

>>123974996
haha I just realized she's probably greentexting her friends about having to meet her creepy neckbeard neighbor

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>>123976373

>>123976503
Aw I wasn't being serious ;_;

anons pls rescue me from work I am being too productive I will set a bad precedent.

>>123976586
Let maxmaps spirit flow through you.
Feel the nothingness.
Also, dr turkey didn't do anything yet.

>>123976753
[TRIGGERED]

I gave Max a year and a half of doubt benefit. Turkey gets some time. The bac9 devblog is the first time I got a truly bad feeling.

To BURN SQUADCAST or not to BURN SQUADCAST, that is the question.

>>123942007
Good thread.

Is there even any point in reinstalling and playing before 1.1 is out and mods have been updated for it? From what I can tell, most of my favourite mods haven't been updated for 1.0.5.

>>123979271
No. Just wait till June.

>>123972845
It has always caused memory leaks during alpha/beta and IIRC it was still so when 1.0 came out.
That was the main reason why standing on the launchpad or flying at low altitude caused leaks when scatter was enabled.

I was wondering if that was still the case

>>123979271
Most of your favorite mods won't get updated for 1.1 either for months.

>>123979271
A lot of mods tagged with 1.0.4 should work okay on 1.0.5.

>>123974996
Did you greet her with a ni hao or did you embarrass yourself with an annyeong?

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>mfw probably won't get invited to the /kspg/ christmas party

>>123974276
Please keep your circlejerk on reddit

>>123980335
>implying we have a christmas party and don't just agree it would be too awkward and not bother with it

>>123980246
I said hello.

>>123980496
You'll never get a qt asian gf like that, anon.

>/kspg/ has a 4chan cup team
>the person running it never posts anything about it on /kspg/
:(

>>123980442
>implying getting wasted with artyom, satch, catfucker and mirk wouldn't be GOAT

>>123982292
>satch will never abuse your drunken state to further her sociopathic ambitions

>>123980692
>implying I dig pussy

>>123982834
Strictly speaking one fucks pussy.
>being a homo excluding for B9

>>123983036
No, one sucks pussy.

>>123983090
That is also acceptable

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I love you Scatterer-senpai!
;___;

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>>123983976
>second worst keion
LEAVE RITSU FAGS
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>123980891
He posted once

>>123980338
>not wanting to get jerked off in exchange for jerking off a third party

B

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Do you remember love?

>>123982601
What would those even be with some neckbeard rusfag anon?
She going to steal his collection of pravdas or something?

>>123958703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iQFoRoaKfs&feature=youtu.be&t=50

>>123985678
It felt good as long as it lasted, I guess.

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>expansion
>early access
That's it. This is the end.

>>123987682
The end is when you can pre-order the sequel to a game that's still in Early Access.

>>123985872
She could blackmail him into being her servant. That's my fetish.

>>123987824
Soon. Very soon.

>>123987824
Well, we already have a studio that has the main game and the semi sequel both in early access now.
Space Engineers and Medieval Engineers.

>>123988340
>tfw you will never put the word slav to its historical meaning and enslave satch

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Maxmaps seems like a pretty cool guy.

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This is a rocket. it's a nice rocket. It can fly to the moon. noone can build such beautiful rockets like me. Only I am capable of building such rockets. If you ever build a rocket it was not even close to this beauty. Many believe rockets were originally created by me. Because I build the prettiest rockets on the world. But this is a lie. Rockets were created by dr Oppenheimer. An african-american rocket scientist. I learned from him. His rockets were just like mine. Deadly and beautiful. My moon rockets aren't deadly though. These rockets are just beatiful. Beautiful rockets are my study subject. No other man ever build such beautiful rockets. Not even you, mr anon. My rockets have a nice little tip on the front to have some nice little rockets are great for transportation. Rocket. Building rockets my annoy some of you. But let me tell you. It's something only big man can do. Only me. Rockets are like space instruments of cute. Noone has ever saw one in real life yet. But that may change in the future when rockets rule over the world. That will be my rocket. Your future president of the rocket state. None shall defy his orders. My rocket is better than yours. Just remember that. Maybe you could learn from me though. I am more than willing to let you guys know how to create such beauty. You may not be a master like me at the end, but building rockets is, well, rocket science. I saw someone here once posting a rocket. It was quite ugly. I nearly puked. No rocket anyone posted here can compete with mine. You are just a bunch of pathetic hobby rocketeers while my genius is working beyond the limits of regular engineering. One time I even visited Obama, the President of half the world, and he told me I was fucking awesome. When I go to sleep I think about how noone can build beautiful rockets, except me.
Pic related, you niggers.

>>123990150
I dunno. I'm kinda worried about the PR guy getting moved to a position like Producer.

>>123991262
Lol, what are the chances of that ever happening?

>>123991384
Yeah, you probably have a point. It's just sort of worrying that everything about KSP has been coming from just one source lately.

>>123992647
Maybe he was the one who posted it.

This post will end in 54

>>123994905
Not even close, but the post above you ends with 05 too. That's something.

>>123995039
And if I tell you both posts who ended in 05 were mine, would that make it somewhat impressive?

WITNESS ME

This is literally the worst general on /vg/. Even worse than /ksg/. Off-topic rate is like 90%, with outdated memeposting, weeb trash, reposts, copypasta, random trolling, and so on. How do you people even think that this is acceptable?

>>123995601
Report and ignore, anon.
Report and ignore.

>>123995601
I feel offended. Please delete your post.

>New job
>Meet my only coworker (he'll be gone in a month, I'm replacing him).
>Shows me how he organized stuff.
>Doesn't know how to double-click.

I'm depressed, /kspg/. This month will be veeeery long.

>>123995601
Have you seen /srg/?
>>123980371

>>123995851
At least you'll be able to show you're better than him pretty easily, right?

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>>123995601
Here, have a (You)

:3

>>123995851
>Doesn't know how to double-click.
No wonder they'll replace him!
Please be nice to him.

>>123995892
Looks a bit like the rambling of an old man.

>>123996064
I hope so. It's easy secretary work. From what I saw this morning, I'm working about height time faster than him, on my first day. It should be okay.

>>123996132
It's only a month, and it's an old person. I'll be patient. And I'm already a nice guy.

boop

>>123995601
/thread

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>>123998492
u wot

Also, fuck these stupid fucking captchas that don't fucking work. Fuck you, Japadmin, you're doing this on purpose I fucking know it.

>>123998946
you should post with only incognito windows like me so you never pick up ban cookies, an added benefit is you get the totally low maintenance picture captchas. :^)

>>123999137
The picture captchas are even fucking worse. Or they were, until these started showing up.

>>123998946
>he doesn't have 4chan premium

What are you playing /kspg/?

>>124001191
Age of Empires 2

So I was playing KSP when I thought of this

>during the great war we all met at the station for one last goodbye
>father was there, and mother too
>little sister stood beside the gate beckoning toward the door
>get those syrians, she whispers
>those doors big brother went through, before he left forever.
>now I travel through the door
>of Kanye West station

http://www.canterburytimes.co.uk/Bid-rename-Canterbury-West-railway-station-Kanye/story-28241719-detail/story.html

XD someone is assblasted enough to report my posts what a gift!

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>being a /kspg/ whiteknight

DEVVVVNOOOOOTTTTTEEEESSSS WHEEEENNNNNNN

>>124003043
Sometime in the next couple hours

>>124003043
>implying they're worth waiting for

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>>124000364

>>124003043
>New UI blah blah
>I swear we're actually working.
>1.1 delayed.

>>123996114
On the subject of muslims being cruel to animals for no good reason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_bZzxep87c

>>124004256
The school cafeterias over here serve only halal these days, because since it's a "ritual slaughter" it doesn't have to follow many of the hygiene and practices laws and is therefore cheaper.
It's either go vegetarian or support religious animal cruelty.

>>123988340
I'd love her to do that to me
Plz tell me she needs servants

>>124004256
>that like/dislike ratio
I seriously hope this is driven by the animal cruelty content.

As for unlabelled halal meat being in the food chain - I don't understand why is a thing. Not labelling halal or kosher meat violates our right not to consume ritually slaughtered animals, which is forbidden.

Reminder for Kasper that Max's instagram still says Producer

https://www.instagram.com/themaxmaps/

>>124006851
Move on anon, he's gone now.

>>124006936
Still working on getting the smell out of the upholstery.

>>124006421
>I seriously hope this is driven by the animal cruelty content.
You just know that Muslims have some kind of facebook downvote brigade.

>>124007134
yeah it's called ISIS

>be turn of the century slaughterhouse worker
>using primitive tools to disembowel hundreds of animals a day
>no gloves

How did they not die of AIDS on the first day of the job? Or did they just slowly build up stronger immune systems?

>>124007396
Faggotry is punishable by stoning in sharia.
Muslims have few practising gays, therefore they have very little AIDS.

TRUMP 2016

>>124007767
Not gonna happen. There are not enough idiots who'd vote him.

>>124008162
Top quality video editing

>>124007958
We'd better hope people vote for him. The alternative is getting literally the worst Clinton ever.

you guys wanna have a webm making contest?

>>124008291
you haven't met Chelsea

>>124008389
I am too dumb to make webms.

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/126828-devnote-tuesday-forums-letters-and-development/

TL;DR comnig soon

>>124008770
I thought I was too

>>124008997
>Joe in particular has been meeting with some undisclosed ‘parties’ to replan some ‘stuff’ now that we’ve decided to delay our Unity 5 update.

pls be dropping the console versions
pls be meeting with FT to fire them

>>124008997
Still 2016 without ETA. I prefer my version >>124004129

>>124008997
>Lots of shit about the forums to start, read the link if you want that info
>Reaffirming their decision to delay 1.1, namedropping devs to show they still actually have any
>Harv redoing lightmapping (probably for building interiors)
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/ArtyomZuev/20130731/197365/Environment_art_and_modeling_in_Kerbal_Space_Program.php?print=1
Mentions what lightmapping is and why its important
>They found a bug in Unity related to shadows on terrain
>Have to find a workaround and send a bug report to Unity
>A whole paragraph of Unity Not Us
>Most of the UI work is now done, its down to polishing new things rather than reimplementing old thing
>Meetings everyday because developers don't need to develop to make a game
>Everyone knows meetings is how you make videogames
>Also what >>124009219 said
>Our Lord and Saviour NathanKell fixing more bugs after the big merge of all the 1.1 branches
>TriggerAu doing more work on KSPedia content and planning 1.1 QA

TL;DR >>124004129

>make some super CUTE satellite with all kinds of scanners and mappers
>get it to the planet
>align it on the perfect orbit
>detach the last stage
>flying debris breaks off all of the solar panels

>>124009928
is that you snek?

>>124009907
thanks for the tl;dr, it really was nothing exciting

>>124010186
No probs anon. Is my tldr too wordy still? Should I keep my own comments in it or out of it?

>>124009907
>found a bug
I forgot my doublespeak does that mean we might get a new feature in 1.1?

>>124010679
>The terrain showed some odd shadowing artifacts depending on the angle at which we would look at the terrain tiles. So far it seems that this is a Unity related bug, and we’re working on collecting data and finding a workaround so we can submit the information to Unity and have them fix the bug.
So the stretched terrain texture feature we've had for a year or so will be replaced with this.

I wonder where we'll be in a year

inb4 right here

>>124010481
it's good the way it is

>>124012342
>implying we can just leave

>have ksp since 2012
>still unable to create something useful

it hurts to be dumb

>>124013558
Don't worry. 90% of the playerbase didn't even get to the mun.

>>124013558
If I can ever make it work I'll upload a webm just to show you a simple lifter design

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>>124013558
>>124013754

here, one cheat gimbal engine and a few aerospikes will get anything to orbit for cheap.

after I launched this I threw another full size LFO tank in the stack and four more aerospikes and it's getting to orbit now.

The craft in this webm has 18% of its fuel left on orbit. Will let you know about the XL size in a min

For satellite delivery contracts, how the hell do you adjust the argument of periapsis? Wikipedia had some math on it, but I have no idea which direction should I burn to change it.

>>124016767
just fiddle with the maneuver node until you get the desired orbit

>>124017454
It also doesn't help that it's an equatorial orbit, and the ascending/descending nodes go half a circle for a 1m/s burn near the 0 degrees inclination.

>>124018010
But those contracts are usually kinda forgiving, if you're less than, say 10 m/s off the desired orbit it takes it as good anyways. Check if you didn't forget any part on the ship or something the contract specified.

>>124019982
I managed to get it in the end. Fiddling with maneuvers got me close enough as you said.

guys, kellin ashley is bullying me :(

>>124022319
literally who

>>123972381
>replying to 1 year and 43 day old posts

Is the newest KSP Interstellar Extended beta version somewhat stable? Some bugs are fine, but preferably no game breaking / save corrupting / crashing ones.

Anyone uses it?

>>124024004
>Anyone uses it?
no

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>>124024439
>>124024004

>>124016129
Immensely satisfying.

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So why do you guys generally dislike career mode?
If the funds mechanics bother you, you can easily increase funds gain to 200% or more so you don't run out. The contracts are fun to do, it gives you some objectives other than "land on X planet". Also plenty of mods that add new contracts.

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>>124010069
>me
>not testing everything extensively

>>124030910
Badly designed and badly balanced, particularly the science system, tech tree and early progression. The contracts side of career has had nearly 100% of the developer attention while the science side is almost the same as when it was introduced two years ago. It was bad then (for a multitude of reasons) and its bad now.

>>124031180
I liked the science part too. No reason to use low tech stuff in sandbox when you have far superior tools unlocked. It lets you (well, rather forces you) to try out every tech in the game as you progress slowly.

>>124031480
A large proportion of tech tree progression is using larger diameter parts which are better than smaller parts simply by virtue of being larger. That means they are easier to build with, easier to manage in flight, and with the side effect of better performance in game thanks to lower part count. So with those things its already advantageous to unlock those parts, but KSP goes the extra mile and makes those parts outright better (in TWR+ISP) than smaller parts. This has the effect of making a shitload of the game redundant, but all that junk still fills up your editor making finding the good parts amid clutter annoying. Its also a trap for new players thinking the old parts are still useful.

This has been brought up many many many times as being "fucking stupid", its also boring since it leads to less player choice. And no, having the player choose from a blatantly inferior option or something good is not a choice. Heres a post on the forum that goes pretty in depth on this, from the point of view of the Vector (1.25m Shuttle engine added in 1.0.5) being OP as fuck. http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/124844-vector-engine-possibly-a-little-too-good/#comment-2268877

As for collection of science, its still a shitty rightclick/action group spam system where you have to guess when you're in a new biome, and is built so poorly for new players a common piece of advice is to fuck about in the KSC picking up bits of dirt rather than flying airplanes and spacecraft to actually progress in a game about flying airplanes and spacecraft.

>>124032393
Is it so bad if there's a progression in technology and later parts are simply better? Sure, it gives you some redundant parts in sandbox, but it also gives a kind of a gameplay/progression feeling for science and career modes. It's also realistic, after all later technology is superior in real life too. You wouldn't send an Apollo today if you wanted to go to the Moon.

Tech progression also makes simple things challenging and feel meaningful. Getting to orbit isn't trivial with shitty rockets, and even if you can get to the Mun, there is good chance you won't be able to land and get back. So you can choose between sending a manned pod, looking around and coming home, or sending a probe, landing and not coming home. A few missions later and you can easily do round trips with heavy landers with better rockets.

>you have to guess when you're in a new biome
While the base game doesn't include that, the scansat mod gives you mid-game option to map planets. Conveniently it's around the same depth in the tech tree where you can reasonably start building landers that visit multiple locations instead of just land once and head home.

>>124033593
>Is it so bad if there's a progression in technology and later parts are simply better?
>You wouldn't send an Apollo today if you wanted to go to the Moon.

Wrong.

Today we're still utilizing rocket systems developed in the 60's and 70's, or utilizing derivatives of those systems. Most improvements to rocketry since then have been primarily in materials (reducing payload/vehicle mass,) and in computer hardware. Look at China - their space station program is using a modernized Salyut station block.

A certain amount of development and creation of redundant parts is ok. That makes sense. But KSP has this problem with almost every part that has a larger counterpart - why use the smaller engine when there's a bigger one that can do the job better?

>>124033593
>Is it so bad if there's a progression in technology and later parts are simply better?
It's arguable for either side, but when that progression is ALSO in size it becomes stupid. It gives you redundant parts in every game mode, though arguably the cost of things like the Vector counts more in career (though you can make recoverable SSTOs to really kill that cost in the first place). You can still have a sense of progression if you have upgradeable parts, and that would also help use some of the huge overabundance of science the game has (its literally infinite with contracts, but there is a "minimum" of around 400k). And the stock tech system is very far from realistic, thats not even an argument.
>using mods to overcome things that are shit in the main game (and have been for TWO YEARS)
You have to realise what you're saying here? And there is actually a way to see biomes in stock, with http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Surface_Scanning_Module but it comes right near the end of the tree, I think only works on biomes (and not "situations" like high in space or whatever), and needs to be right-clicked to check it.

The game is way too reliant on right clicking.

>>124034337
>why use the smaller engine when there's a bigger one that can do the job better?
Price? This is where funds come in. You could send up a satellite on Kerbin orbit for 30k. A single one of the higher end engines costs more than that. Completing various tasks with the cheapest vehicle can be a goal even in sandbox.

>>124035642
You can make an SSTO capable of landing back at KSC and have the only cost be fuel, and you've completely nullified the high cost of those engines. That is exactly why the Rapier, Aerospike and Vector are so expensive.

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>>124035642
>This is where funds come in.

It would be, if not for two things. Firstly, usage. If, for whatever reason, you decide you want to use a superheavy launcher, it's likely that you're more than capable of using it to multiple payloads into orbit - easily enough to make it cheaper than a large number of smaller launches on engines that are far less efficient in every way.
Second, is how easy it is to get funds. It's all fine and dandy that a single engine might cost more than an entire rocket, if that engine only costs you a couple of pennies out of your massive amount of money, there's only one choice in all reality.

The balancing of money in Career is just plain atrocious.

Regardless of species, balls are always nice

>tiny jet
>tiny fuselage
>tiny intake
>no tiny wings
>no tiny wheels

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>tfw just spent a few hours making over 30 nuke webms but have no use for them

>>124042386
Were those power lines being vaporized before the shock wave hit?

>>124042496
Looks like they're just being burnt like everything else.. I'm not entirely sure on how EMPs work but it might be that those cables are getting hot because of that, but that's a wild guess.

>>124042386
okay atomcentral.com

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>>124042496
Yeah, the thermal flash from the heat of the fireball alone is enough to make the insulation boil away into those clouds of smoke.

evens spend money
odds starve

>>124042809
okay tim

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>>124043309
>tfw nukes in KSP will never look this good

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>>124043487
Any slow motion?

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>>124044375
I have this

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I hate this general

>>124044945
Those engines will be fucking awful for that rocket. You'd be better off with a Skipper.

>>124044945
same

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>>124044945
I don't :^)

>>124045160
>vens

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>>124045074
>implying this isnt a longhaul slowburn trip
>doesn't know the mission parameters
>doesn't know the engine is a separate module that can be swapped for different profiles

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>>124045245

>>124045245
Unless you're slapping on 2 or 3 long-Mk3 LF tanks then that engine set up is going to be less efficient than you think it is.

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>>124045317
SUCC

>>124045375
yeah. theres about 5 more ports on the thing for attaching 'drop tanks'

>>124045465
scibot's back.

>>124046350
who?

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>>124044945
What's in the aeroshell :^)

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>>124046756
probably the worst lander i've ever designed

>>124046596
>>>/news/

kek, the entire Force Awakens plot got leaked, it looks like complete shit.

>>124047889
>kspg

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>>124047441
>can't post images on /news/ unless it's the OP
>even then, the OP doesn't need an image

>>124047889
As long as Han doesn't die, and we get some Luke, my inner sperg is okay.

>>124048169
>As long as Han doesn't die

NT EVE - 317 - STARKILLER BASE - RAMPARTS • Han Solo hides, then decides to reveal himself to Kylo Ren.

INT EVE - 318 - STARKILLER BASE - RAMPARTS - UPPER LEVELS • Finn and Rey and Chewbacca stop to watch what's happening below

INT EVE - 319 - STARKILLER BASE - RAMPARTS • The conversation comes to a sudden end

INT DAY - 320 - RESISTANCE BASE - MAP ROOM • Leia has felt what has happened at Starkiller Base.

INT EVE - 321 - STARKILLER BASE - RAMPARTS • Chewbacca lets rip at Kylo Ren.

http://millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=9790


Goodnight my friends. :^)

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Google "syndrome" :^)

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>>124046903
>not posting what's inside it

>>124054541
nuclear war to remove kebab when?

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>mfw no qt satch to beat me into submission for her sociopathic needs

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http://www.dbot.us/

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>>124055751

>tfw no energetic friends to go out to bars with

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>>124056050
lel so sad ;_;

>>124056720
stahp

So kspg, say you start a new sandbox save (modded or stock doesn't matter), how do you proceed? What are your goals? Do you just make random crafts to go wherever you feel like going at the moment or you start something more "organised"?

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>>124055223
wot

>tfw no qt satchie gf to gently beat

>>124059983
>tfw no qt squadcast to burn

>>124055381
what mod for those cute landing legs?

>>124059087
I just do whatever I want.

But before I got burned out by the game I used to roleplay. First satelites than a small spacecraft just to orbit for a while, etc.

>>124061028
A
I
E
S
Neuefag

Does /kspg/ support love?

Is 4chin kill?

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>>124062437
Yes.

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E
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>>124066707
Just a little.

>read Factorio dev blogs
>it makes me feel sad about KSP

>>124067598
>read about Starbound
>read about DayZ
>it's the same as KSP but they didn't slap a 1.0 sticker on it yet

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>>124062758
>someone saved one of my pics with the original filename

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>>124068809
:3c

>>124067598
Factorio's devs are competent and willing to make a good product. They've got a long-term plan and their roadmap is realistic.

Pretty much nothing to do with Squad.

This is the end. My only friend, the end.

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>>124072000
Nice digits.

>>124073026
Well thank you!

DED

>>124068809
>using slav gifs
r u baccy or satch?

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/126808-made-a-user-style-to-increase-forum-contrast-and-available-space

Oh yes

>>124075654
>users now need to mod the ksp forums to render even it usable

>>124075654
That actually looks significantly better.

>>124075654
>>124076040
>yet fucking again, someone who does it >for free does it better than squad devs who are actually paid for their job

>>124076921
>being this salty to think that forum admins are the same people as devs
That's some Orwellian shit right here. Is your "Two Minutes Hate" not over yet?

>there are people in this thread right now who use the forum for anything other than getting mods
How far have we fallen?

>>124077064
This 8 cures you of your rampant masochism.

>tfw no busty satchie gf

>>124078253
Satch is not a woman.

I build the space shuttle.

>>124055403
Didn't someone say that Russian military doctrine still looks at nuclear warfare as an acceptable option?
The US still cares about it's image with the global community, tho, so no nukes

>>124075654
>making me click a forum link that isn't B9's rectified post

I'm going to have a lot of fun BURNING SQUADCAST with this as the kindling.

TOMORROW AT 6PM EST (right?)

>>124080290
American doctrine is to not use it first.
If the Russians start by nuking the Turks, America would then be free to also nuke the Turks, since Russia already began.

>okay, I want to do x in KSP but not sure how
>let's read up on it on the KSP wiki
>hey, there's some more information about it on wikipedia
>oh, these links look interesting
>3 hours later: reading about relativistic jets
This is worse than tvtropes.

>>124081252
Wouldn't American leftist, and overall the average "world citizen" protest, even if Russia used them first?
I would imagine a whole clusterfuck on the Congress

>>124080290
>1991+24
>still believing in Cold War "evil russians want nuke eryone" propaganda
You've had too much burgers, murrifat.

>>124080290
The U.S. military *does* treat them the same way, they're just not very vocal about it. For example, when I did amphibious assault training, it was very carefully implied that if we were landing against a modern, entrenched enemy, nuclear weapons were potentially something that would be used to break the enemy fortifications prior to us hitting the beach. I'd imagine that a similar doctrine exists for the other branches as well.

>>124081831
Well, diving air tanks would serve the same purpose as a gas mask, so putting marines in against the nuked targets is probably a pretty good idea.

>>124081683
I'm not even American. In fact, America hurt my country during the Cold War while the soviets barely aknowledged our existance.

Also I just digged up a little; http://www.scrf.gov.ru/documents/33.html

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>>124081965
>marines wearing scuba gear
>gas masks protecting against radiation
I fukken lost it.

>>124081683
Except that's not what he's saying. It's a well known fact, based upon numerous leaked and declassified documents, as well as the general attitude of Russian Generals, that Russia would use nuclear weapons on a conventional battlefield, provided they were seen to provide a suitable tactical advantage. Russia lacks the ability to fight a proper slugfest with just conventional weapons, so using anything to tip the balance in their favor, and break enemy units and fortifications before they become a problem is a very sound tactical consideration.

>>124081965
We didn't land wearing diving gear. It was suggested we'd instead be using NBC gear (and had to do drills with that kit during the same training scenarios.)

The bitching that caused was downright impressive.

>>124082323
Gas masks would actually be used, because inhaling radioactive dust would be a great way to get lung cancer.

>>124082035
> Poccийcкaя Фeдepaция ocтaвляeт зa coбoй пpaвo пpимeнить ядepнoe opyжиe в oтвeт нa пpимeнeниe пpoтив нee и (или) ee coюзникoв ядepнoгo и дpyгих видoв opyжия мaccoвoгo пopaжeния, a тaкжe в cлyчae aгpeccии пpoтив Poccийcкoй Фeдepaции c пpимeнeниeм oбычнoгo opyжия, кoгдa пoд yгpoзy пocтaвлeнo caмo cyщecтвoвaниe гocyдapcтвa.

Clearly says that the nukes will be used only in responce to another nuclear attack or when the very existence of the country is questionable (basically the loss of the war itself). So yeah, this still proves you wrong.

>>124083047
>22. B paмкaх выпoлнeния мepoпpиятий cтpaтeгичecкoгo cдepживaния cилoвoгo хapaктepa Poccийcкoй Фeдepaциeй пpeдycмaтpивaeтcя пpимeнeниe выcoкoтoчнoгo opyжия. Poccийcкaя Фeдepaция ocтaвляeт зa coбoй пpaвo пpимeнить ядepнoe opyжиe в oтвeт нa пpимeнeниe пpoтив нee и (или) ee coюзникoв ядepнoгo и дpyгих видoв opyжия мaccoвoгo пopaжeния, a тaкжe в cлyчae aгpeccии пpoтив Poccийcкoй Фeдepaции c пpимeнeниeм oбычнoгo opyжия, кoгдa пoд yгpoзy пocтaвлeнo caмo cyщecтвoвaниe гocyдapcтвa. Peшeниe o пpимeнeнии ядepнoгo opyжия пpинимaeтcя Пpeзидeнтoм Poccийcкoй Фeдepaции.

And this suggest that the Russian forces reserve the right to use nuclear weapons if the president of Russia feels the Federations has been threatened first, even if that threat is caused with conventional weapons.

Now, I know this sounds weird and impossible, after all, Russians would probably have to fly aircrafts with their radios turned off and with no identification painting over conflict zones long enough to be attacked and then a crazy-for-power president would declare that's a direct attack to the safety of the Federation. But we all know Russia wouldn't do all that stuff, or bend it's own rules a little, right?

>>124083774
So it's business as usual for all superpowers?

badie adds nothing

I wish I'd own a NES.

>>124086024
BURN SQUAWKCAST

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its ME AGAIN! wanting to upgrade my ssto design for the new version. What are the big changes to this one?

how many intakes per rapier do I want, and what is a good ascent profile that I should pick?

>>124027363
You mean my webm? If you like it I can make more.

What's preferred, full launches or neat very art-directed snippets?

>>124089094
>What are the big changes to this one?
Gitting gud may help.
>how many intakes per rapier do I want
0, for all 0 cheat engines I'd suggest you use
>what is a good ascent profile that I should pick?
Depends on how tall you are. A chair is typically a safe bet; definitely better than a stool. The descent profile is generally the same regardless of which you choose.

>>124089094
I'm the guy who invoked the power of christ. Hi Scibot.

Tonight I'm going to make a webm >>124089212
of a far, far superior ship reaching orbit with an orange and halforange fully loaded and ready to deploy and then I'm going to land the ship back at the KSC

Step your shit up pleb. Oh and drop tanks are billy tier

>>124089094
Oh fuck, you again.

>>124089751
HAHAHA YOU WILL NEVER BE RID OF ME!

Srsly though, tips on SSTO design? I want to keep my "one angle all the way to space" method for baby-tier piloting, so I was wondering what the current "metta" is on ssto design.

>>124089941
Don't use rapers.
Use jets and nukes.

>>124089094
There is a mod somewhere that tells you if you have enough intakes and how high they will collectively last before you flame out.

I have absolutely no idea how it's called tho.

There was also this mod with a second throttle needle that follows the actual instantaneous thrust level of the craft, pretty handy to keep an eye on how air breathing engines are working.
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/126572-105-tim-thrust-indication-module-v11/

>>124090267
That is super helpful. Thanks.

>>124089941
>I want to keep my "one angle all the way to space" method for baby-tier piloting
Do you want to know the secret to beating the game with no additional keyboard inputs?
uninstall.exe

If you're not too busy watching the game play itself, that is.

I think I'm gonna watch Lexx while eating popcorn tonight.

>>124089941
Last time I dealt with SSTOs was when atmosphere was still soup and aero was retarded (and there was no rapier), so take this advice with a grain of salt.

Anyway, I remember it was better to go up, fly horizontal a bit below max air-breathing altitude, go sanic fast at that altitude, pitch up, take advantage of the last bit of air-breathing thrust to gain a bit of angle on your trajectory, then switch to rockets to finish orbit.
Basically, you go as fast as possible and as high as possible with jets so rockets only have to finish the job instead of doing most of it. Just keeping a constant angle usually meant spending way too much into thick atmosphere (when ascent too shallow) or not using jets to their full potential (when too steep). This kind of ascent used globally less fuel than a constant angle ascent.

Again, this kind of manouvers might not be even possible with current aero so I don't know.