/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

I fucking love phoenixes.
Want to do a run dedicated to my love of them in DS2.
Phoenix parma is a must, along with pyro.
What are other ways to make this a good fashion and themed run?

>>123918467

Pursuer or Fume Knight?

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Best/ most frequented boss to farm golden sunlight medals in DS2?
All DLC's included

Anyone have a tier list of DS1 weapons?

>>123918539
Falconer's set. Pyromancy.

How good are Ultra Greatswords during the Das3 stress test?

>>123918675
>playing DS1

For what purpose

>>123918705
Dawg, i'm asking for some originality.
Some fashion.

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>>123918675

Anyone else notice the little petrification doggos running around are actually fucking monkeys?

>>123919142
In that case, wear the Desert Sorceress/Lion sorcerer set and be flamboyant. Wear fucktons of makeup and the phoenix tatoo.

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>>123918606
anyone?

>>123919397
I actually forgot about desert set.
I was going to attempt the Charred loyce leggings, hands and have a hernia figuring out a good chest piece.

>>123919718

>>123918601

>>123918601
thank you

W-We'll get a fan that can cast pyromancies in DS3 r-r-r-right g-guys!?

>>123917778
>>123918506
I ended up getting the latest stable instead of beta (because I'm a dumbass) and it was easier and works good so far.
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-ScpToolkit-XInput-Wrapper-aka-ScpServer-Reloaded
for anyone looking to get ds3/4 controller working on pc.

Now the real question, to make a str/dex/faith/magic/hex for my first run through character.

I hate how bloated health is in DaS2. Going Glass Cannon feels like I should have been doing all this damage in the first place.

>>123921996
Glass cannon how? And do you mean vs players or mobs?

I always went for as high of damage per hit as possible (and thus like the ultra weapons, or heavier ones). Or do you mean using the red tearstone ring and having it on all the time? Either way I kind of agree.

>>123919191
>Claymore
>not top tier

>>123920356
Make an all-rounder. I love being able to do literally anything at anytime on my characters.

Or a straight up wanderer. I love the way curved swords feel and play.

No matter what you play, enjoy it and enjoy your DS3 fimfam

>>123922173
Versus anything. I have base Vigor, threw all my points into phys stats, and I feel like however much damage I got it isn't worth the 1k HP I could have gotten by putting those points into Vigor.

>>123922285
Thinking of doing my usual STR run first, always been a favorite of mine, but I've done it often enough and I'm thinking of trying a robflynn build now that I'll have access to it (and alot of the good dlc weapons seem to be dex favored). Don't remember if theres any spells worth a shit in the dlcs.

There IS that ivory king sword, fume ugs and the majestic gs though that i've wanted to try.

>>123922328
Oh, yeah once you get to 40-50 on any scaling worth a damn on weapons thats about as much damage as you'll get outside of getting some magic or something and shoving a spell on it. I also assume you are using RoB as well, and Flynn if DLC+light build.

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>Fast-rolling Havel Mommy with Hornet Ring
>die to fished backstabs
>take a gander at this pillar of the community member

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>MLGS moveset in Bloodborne

Fucking tell me this is how UGS moveset will look like in DkS3. Please.

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>>123923546

Seems legit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UScsme8didI

>Drop ~100 stones for the crows
>gpu jumps up to 81c

kek
if it wasn't winter it might have exploded

>>123923648
DKS3 seems to have taken a lot of the design philosophy from Bloodborne, having played both.

I think in terms of fluidity and usefulness, a lot of the combat and weapons will be changed. Expect things like the Old Hunters Bone and Bell Chime too.

>>123923546

Yeah, using Crystal Weapons, what a gay fucker.

>>123923796
Fuck off

>>123923796
yeah we all know it's shit, fuck off

>>123923648
maybe one day ps4 will get cheap enough I can feel justified buying it for a single series (bloodborne and maybe any other games that catch my interest)

is it's UGS moveset that good? I fucking love me some giant ass swords, and I love the MLGS to boot.

>>123922770
I don't even have 40 yet. Leveling my stats only increases its damage by one point at a time.

I am playing dark souls for the first time, managed to go to the area after the bridge in which a dragon burns you and the howllows alive if you dont hide. After Taurus Demon and Solaire.

I am stuck in the boar area, is there a way to open the gate in the boar area?

I can't wait until ds3 is out so we can forget ds2 ever happened.

>>123925569
>most of the mechanics of DaS3 are based on DaS2
You wish.

quick /dsg/

how do i unbun myself

>>123925832
It looks and sounds a lot more like ds1 honestly.

>>123926067
For one, are you sure you're bunned?
For two, how dumb are you to get bunned in this day and age?

>>123926261
changed my name with CE

apparently they don't like you circumventing the filter

>>123925408
Go down the stairs to the right of the boar.

This requires you to kill the boar.

>>123925408
oh

thanks

>>123926404
I mean, thank you

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>try out Bloodborne
>it's full of ds2 ganksquad mobs
>have to grind for vials a la DeS
>regular Human npc enemies are as op as DS2 npc phantoms
Wake me the fuck up from this nightmare

>>123926854
It really is like they took the worst aspects of every game and shoved them into a different setting.

>make character
>cant seem to get the face right on this guy to where i dont think he looks like a retard
>stuck having to use hats that make it so I dont get reminded of his ugly face
>making a grill takes me a thousand hours before I finally get a face I like
>yet they stand oddly in armor compared to males, see: the armor set page on wikidot

I forgot how much I hated the character creation part.

>>123927193
>making waifus with the souls character creation system
You brought this on yourself.

You guys think I'll be able to run DaS3 with a nvidia GTX 660M?

I wanna wait another year to hold off on upgrading, but my imperative is to play Dark Souls 3 on release since I've only ever played the Souls games at least a year after they first came out

>>123927587
I've managed to make TWO waifus (that are still on my ps3 version) and they took fucking forever to make. What's worse is I've actually been unable to fucking recreate them. I slidered so hard I dont even know how I did it. And I really dont know if I want to fuck with it again.

So I ended up with a derpy guy and I'll just give him a helmet or something.

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A gift for /dsg/

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>>123928057
Beautiful.

>>123926067
Steam family account senpai

Is ds2 pvp still alive?
The belltowers are depressingly empty.

>>123927837
Despite the game looking like ass, it's rather unoptimized in that it runs the same whether on high or low settings. The real problem is that the game is framerate-dependent. If you can't maintain 60fps, shit's gonna get fucked real fast (hitboxes and physics will be wonky). My surface book's dGPU (nvidia 940m equivalent) runs it decently, so you might be able to scrape by.

>>123928819
bells are dead, BoB arena, the Bridge, and CREO's still get frequent results.

>>123927837
Whoops, I didn't read. DaS3 will likely be using a modified version of the Bloodborne engine. You likely won't be able to maintain the necessary 60fps.

>>123919191
>pyro flame and Baller Swag Sword in "Top Tier"

>Used both as a dex pyro because I'm a metagaming bitchass. Probably going to Hell for spamming black flame in pvp.

>>123922285
Welp, after actually making a character and trying some combat, problems arose. Trying to kill the cyclops just makes the controller completely fuck off (like if I was in the middle of backing up, it will just keep doing that and nothing works on the controller). Had it happen fighting a few tutorial hollows as well.

Of course it wouldn't just be that easy.

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>dad walks in on my playing Dark Souls 2
>want to impress cause he never takes interest in anything I do
>start playing really shitty
>dad says "holy shit son, I thought you were good at video games, seeing as you play them all the time, get better at them"
>mfw my dad told me to git gud

>>123929535
Just adding it seems like getting into combat has a random chance to just make the controller fuck off (100% vs the cyclops so far) and backstabbing does it too for some reason.

Man what the fuck.

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>>123930219
Why won't anyone summon me?

can someone post the "get off it dude" video

I haven't seen it in a while and wanna laugh

Just getting back into ds2 after a year. What has been nerfed? Has anything changed?

>>123927587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB_q2mvzKEI

>>123928819
Depends if it's DaS2 or SotFS I guess. With my new character, I got invaded twice before beating the Bell Gargoyles on my second try on SotFS.

>>123930458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYWC0wgAsyU

>>123930645
hur hur very funny now wheres the DaS pvp version

>>123930541
>Depends if it's DaS2 or SotFS I guess
Vanilla is still relatively alive. Could've been worse.

>>123930382
I've been standing in the same spot with a sign dropped for what feels like an hour now.

>>123930861
It's still like 3-4 times less players, so I can see bellbros being dead there.

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>>123931087
I still get some, but yeah, kinda barren.

>>123929290
I played through DaS1 with anywhere from 30-45 and it was fine. I'd love 60, of course, but as long as I can maintain 30+ I can play without hindrance.

I'm willing to stomach turning down the resolution and graphics to a point to get there, but I still don't know if it'll be enough, and I don't know if my i5-3230M would be sufficient.

whats the name of that couple minute video with the dude calm at first pvping in the forest but he gets parried and freaks out?

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>stream for a few hours
>0 viewers
oh well that's that then

>>123931747
I know the feel too well.

>>123926854
>it's full of ds2 ganksquad mobs
except you're not slow as molasses like in ds2

>>123932181
just post it you bitch

Does the parasite egghead (das1 obviously) count towards encumbrance?

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anyone wanna fight me? 4.1mil SM on DaS2 no new game plus, fallen giants

MadCauseBad

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Drake Swords are back in season in Anor Londo.

>>123933741
SotFS or Vanilla?

>>123933364
I don't believe so. But you can remove your clothes and find out.

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I have absolutely no clue what I should have done.

>>123935237
vanilla

>>123935337
Will be there in a sec, although it's 8 fucking am, so I won't hang out for much

in DaS, if I invade someone, is the best way to punish estus use to immediately go for the backstab, or is it safer to just try to get off a single R2 and back away?

>>123935592
Just go for the backstab. Or if they are shit, let them chug estus and kill them anyways.

>>123935715
Yeah I just got rocked trying to out-DPS some dudes estus chug which is pretty pathetic, I know. Not sure why I didn't go for a BS, I guess I was just really surprised that I couldn't negate his estus intake with regular damage.

Also, how dead is DaS on PC? I'm around SL 105 in Townshit and had a tough time finding someone to invade or getting invaded.

>>123936130
Anor Londo is active if you like SL ~50 pvp

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>>123936130

For me at least, I am getting plenty of summons in Anal Rodeo, and we frequently get invaded. Removing the region lock seems to have really broadened the playerbase.

On weekends at peak hours I get one summon for O&S every 5-10 minutes.

Haven't really tried the other areas much. When I go through Undead Burg I still get twink invasions pretty frequently.

>>123935297
>tallgeese still being a faggot

Why does this not surprise me?

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>>123933741
gg m80, lemme get some repair armour from my stash.

>>123936916
Powder. I mean powder. Fuck sleep deprivation.

Why did no one tell me how good Black Bow of Pharis was? I skipped it because of how much of a chore it was to get early game, but you can easily get it fairly mid game.

Composhit bow has awful range, which means the arrows begin to arc and lose power really fast. So all that damage power doesn't mean much at any range. BBP has a range of 65, and a whopping 97.5 if paired with the Hawk ring. And if you have a strong Dex build, the lower damage isn't that big compared to Composite.

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My game crashed as soon as the match ended, I guess that means it's my time. Was fun, hope you can ge someone else to duel with.

>Biggie Smalls
>Solaire keeps Biggie busy for a change
>whip out bandit's knife
>coat it with flame
>Smalls is actually easier to deal with up close (I had tried running away and dealing with Biggs before)
>Smalls down
>Solaire down
>Keep distance and arrow Biggie
>run out of estrus
>get hit
>85% of Biggie's HP down
>die

So close.

>>123938145
alright man, was fun.

on another note, is vanilla ds2 pvp dead? i hardly see signs at iron keep anymore. i never got SotFS cause i already had the DLCs for vanilla

anyone want help with any das bosses or anything? im bored

alternatively we could duel a few times

Would you ever like to see Luck re-introduced?

My idea would be to merge Luck and RES. Take two moderately less than useful stats, and make one good stat.

>+ item discovery
>+fire defense
>+Lightning Defense
>+Curse Resistance
>+Poison Resistance
>+Bleed Resistance

Thieves start with the most of course, making them slightly more useful.

>>123939158
itll be a pile of shit, just like the last one

>>123939158
Luck should give bonus damage to backstabs and ripostes. Not that much, like maybe +5% at 99 or something.

>>123938623
I think there are more people summoning than putting down signs, for some reason. Usually I just drop mine and wait a minute or two while alt-tab'd.

>>123937285
CRAAAAWLIN

>>123930219
Well fixed it going back to old shitty motioninjoy + better ds3.

Dont know why my specific setup had specific problem in game like that but whatever.

>>123939632
That's too small to be of any real use honestly. And while kind of a neat idea, would be terrible to balance (and everyone would get to whatever easy break point if it was any good)

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Which steam server is more populated?
DX9 or DX11? And why the fuck did they even make a division there?

>>123940396
DX11. DX9 PvP hotstopts are still alive, but in general there are fewer players.

>>123940561
great. I just paid 25€ for season pass.
I could have just bought SoFS for 30€

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>>123930382
Oh shit -- I saw you, dude.

I was going to attempt to summon, but I really needed to rest at the bonfire. The attempt probably would have failed anyway.

>>123940641
steam refund? say you plan to buy sotfs instead of season pass, i'm sure you put in a convincing sob story they might give it to you or something?

How popular is SotFS these days?

I want to get back into it after playing Bloodborne and missing the PVP.

I hope they give us the dead again spell now that ragdoll physics are in the game again.

>>123941593
I really wonder what L2s hexes (and pyros) are going to have. Miracles get poise, which is cool, sorceries get bonus damage and casting time, I believe.

>>123941593
It would be amusing if they did more with persistent corpses
What if DaS3 gravelord-equivalents could use a spell to call all of the bodies back to life against invaders (probably with low damage/hp so it's not ridiculous)?
Imagine something like this in DaS1 in the room before gargoyles

>>123938324

>fight giants
>waste 5 estrus flasks due to sloppiness

They just HAD to put his summon sign in a far off spot that you'd have to fight all the enemies first if you want to summon him right? Anor Londo is just so annoying.

whats the best way to farm souls in vanilla DaS2? just invading people?

>>123942807
Kiant king probably

>>123942472

>get sick of fighting them
>summon Solaire
>Summon another player
>3 vs. 2 fight
>sit in the corner and bow them
>Biggie goes down
>bow Smalls
>Solare decides to just chill by me, so I run towards smalls to get them to fight
>2 vs. 1, with me in the corner bowing
>he goes down fast

That was cheap as hell on my part, but I had no clue you could summon an NPC and a player at the same time.

>healing item farming
This is so unnecessary.

>>123943165

That's why they added estruses. It's a better system.

Which game is this? If it's Demon's you can just get souls and buy some.

>>123943281
Demon's and Bloodborne.

What are some good dex weapons for just starting out? Before I get to the real good stuff.

>>123940238
You have my sympathies sir.

I don't suppose you'd be willing to try the exact same version I use. I'm uncertain if the more recent versions aren't less forgiving.

If it's in any way related, I am running Win10.

>>123944571

I'm going to guess you mean Dark 1.

>bandit knife

Thief starting class. Or from undead thieves. Bleeding, fast attack.

>balder side sword

Do NOT count on this dropping from the ones in undead parish. I'm not even sure if it's possible. But some say it does. Don't bother farming it, but if it drops go with it. This is really a mid-game weapon as it drops from Sen's Fortress easily.

>black bow of pharis

You can get it early game, just not easily.

>>123944571

The undead merchant has a nice katana if you're willing to murder him. I strongly advice not to though.

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>>123918381
I don't know if this is the general i can post this in, but, fuck bloodborne. fuck that boring ass game. i bought the dlc beat Ludwig and just decided i didn't want to play it anymore. there's nothing fun about it. its not hard, its just boring. i feel as though if you don't put up enough vitality you'll just get 1 shot by most things as defenses are non existent, so you have to be good at dodging, and parrying, which isnt so much of an issue as it just becomes monotonous after a while. like working on a factory line. dodge this attack parry the next kill creature, move forwards a few feet, repeat. same with bosses. They're mind numbingly easy, with the exception of a few having some really good tracking attacks that are also somewhat difficult to parry. Rom felt like a joke. Or it is a joke. Back to the DLC. I get through the first part, riddled with traps and surprises and i get the gatling gun, at this point I'm hoping the game picks up. no just more traps and surprises that will try to 1 shot you can such if you aren't careful, and a respawning enemy that always drops 5 blood vials before the boss. I fight Ludwig and get my ass kicked once or twice, and then I realize the fight was designed to be "dodge dodge dodge, land a hit, repeat" and once I got that down it was just a long boring ass fight where I ran the risk of dying more because I was getting lackadaisical out of not paying as much attention, than i was because the fight was "hard". I enjoyed DS1, and DS2 so much more than this, I don't understand what FROM was doing with this. I didn't expect a demons souls or another dark souls, I expected a different game sure, but this has no fun value to me. Am I the only one who thinks this way? Does anyone else feel similar or hate the game for other reasons? I'm trying to make the decision to either see it through to the end of the DLC, or just accept my loss and say fuck it forever.

Anyone else like pretending their character smokes some sort of drug while you're high af irl and just flying around with bone fists on some nigga and then realize you've been playing around with their ragdoll'd corpse for fifteen minutes until it disappeared

Yeah me too

These games are so amazing for fucking around in

>get invaded at low level parish
>invader doesnt find me
>wait for him for a while
>end up going to the fogwall
>hes camped out at the top of the ladder so i >cant get past
>try hitting him
>he has hacked infinite stamina
>try throwing firebombs at him
>he has infinite health
>DC
>how much of an unrelenting faggot do you need to be to do this?

>>123945343
BSS definitely drops from the parish balder knights

>>123945869
>dang anyone else wonder
>how the fuck do you greentext

>>123945916

Never seen it happen myself. It's said to be a really low drop. Guys on here have said they farmed it for hours without any luck. In contrast, at Sen's fortress it's really easy to get.

Anyone know the actual drop rate?

>>123945343
I actually mean dark 2.

>>123945231
I did, but upon running the server it didn't detect anything like the updated ponyfags did. Probably just me messing up install somewhere, but the drivers should largely be the same I'd imagine.

Not sure why it would work fine and fuck off completely during fights, but at least theres better ds3 so I'm not too worried.

>>123946148
As long as you're no longer running Motioninjoy's disgusting software directly anymore, that's good enough for me. I've always hated how fat and clunky the 360 controller felt, so as long as the DS3 is working, all is right with the world.

Best of luck in your adventures anon.

>guy invades me
>we emote then fight
>same guy invades me the next day
>he's afk
>continue farming souls
>comes out of nowhere and kills me

do I become the scum and attack without honor?

>>123945343
You can get the composite bow even easier. Just run through every single ghost, and it's better, and it doesn't require 20k souls.

>>123946324
Oddly the only game I bothered to setup for ps3 was souls games, just since it's what i've always played them on and it felt just... off and weird to try with 360. I'm fine with it for other emulated crap and stuff though.

For a robflynn build, is it super limited in armor you can get? I kind of want to try one just to have some high attack on a dex build (prefer harder 1 hits over faster lighter hits) but I like to fashion + function mix. I'd be using the fume sword, loyce gs, dragonblood gs, estoc, or possibly warped sword power stanced with something else.

>>123946497

Composite has bad range though, but yeah it's easy to get. I recommend using composite early game. Then when you're strong enough get the black bow of Pharis. If you're strong enough dex, you will not see that huge a drop in damage.

>>123941260
Just checked the upgrade price is 3€ today
Im lucky

>>123947127
You might just be the gayest, most in denial person ever for having that on your computer.

>>123946632
I, sadly, don't own DaS2 yet. And of course, when Steam puts it up for sale, it just has to be on the week that I'm broke as fuck.

From what I have gathered from these threads, almost ever piece of armor could be considered cosmetic if you become proficient at dodging, and since DaS2 has stat progression that increases iframes during dodges, it's worth practicing. Ergo, get whatever you find to be maximum stylish that doesn't hamper your equipment load too badly.

>>123947127
reminder than bed of chaos and most ds2 bosses exist

>>123947512
>>123947763

post deletion incoming in 3.... 2....

>>123947512
he is but not for that reason

>>123947683
Problem is most the stuff I like fashion wise tends to be on the heavier side, but I'll have to take a look.

I wonder if that new forlorn stuff is any good.

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>>123931608
Oh damn, i5-3210M & GT635M here.
Would you want to be my boyfriend, fellow poorfag senpai?

>>123948762
>>123931608
>M class CPUs/GPUs

I just don't get it. Why do you subject yourselves to trying to game on fucking laptops, when Desktop setups offer more power for less money?

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>make a mistake
>that was embarrassing, I'll try not to do it again
>make another mistake

>summon the npc in front of dragonrider (i was human and i figured eh why not), would of summoned a player but none were around
>he goes yoloing off to fight the heide knight in front of the chest
>falls off as I kill the knight
its like the game was telling me I was being a dumbass for summoning in the first place, but at least I got the chest loot easy.

Can all these heide knights drop their gear in this tower of flame? Cuz I know these guys are new.

>Catacombs

The deadliest enemy is the camera.

morning /dsg/ bought SOTFS a while ago and I've rushed to the souls ring in bastille, sitting on 170482 Soul Memory, at which amount is it best to apply the ring to get maximum jolly co op and a little PvP?

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>>123949021
I, for one, am physically damaged and still healing, so I can't get even a shit job for now. Besides I'm a slavshitter, so even having a shitjob wouldn't help. Literally no other options, bud.
And before anyone says, I am considering suicide, yes. In fact the trauma is the result of a failed suicide attempt. Since then I'm still too scared to try again. There's no bigger disgrace than me in the entire /vg/.
>>123948762-faggot

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>>123949959
Ah, right, I forgot about this altogether. I might be a complete failure, but at least I'm trying to draw you guys a picture, exclusively for /dsg/.
I mean I might be an unironical dick-loving faggot, but no one said I am not allowed to draw female butts.

The picture will be finished in a few days (it won't look much better though), and I'll also get you guise a NSFW version as well. Sorry for it being sloppy, but I'm no artist.
Now it's time for some self-loathing and masturbating to sweet, sweet Gwynodlin husbando.

>>123949959
Curious: Why play a series like the Souls games with your mentality? Do you find it reaffirms your belief that life is pointless, or do you find it more self-empowering watching a frail, easily destroyed avatar grow to become an unstoppable, soul-reaping, near-immortal demigod?

>inb4 'quit reading into it too much faggot'.
Can't help but to be morbidly curious.

Never played DaS 2 DLC, now i'm itching to go back in. Does someone have the most up to date weapons ranking chart?

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>>123950328
>or do you find it more self-empowering watching a frail, easily destroyed avatar grow to become an unstoppable, soul-reaping, near-immortal demigod?
Sort of this. But also this is the series that taught me to be relentless and to love a challenge. I don't know how this happened, but this is the only series that made me feel this way.

>>123950328
Actually the series teaches you to try again and again against all odds.... or else you hollow

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>>123950356
Here you go.
This is missing a bow from the third DLC though.

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>>123950308
>Creates a piece of art that is miles above anything 99% of /dsg/ could hope to create.
>"I'm no artist, tho."

I don't get it. Is it some requirement for artists to unironically hate everything you make? I get that constantly remaining objective to your shortcomings allows you to constantly keep improving, but it seems like every artist, even just the half-decent ones, I've come across swear they 'aren't artists' and that 'everything they do is complete shit'.

I don't care what you think famalam, *I* think that linework and perspective is fucking beautiful.

>>123950442
And you. I respect you for enjoying the relentless pursuit of difficult, but not impossible, challenge. Keep on fighting.

>>123949559
Try to jump in into the bonwheel pit as a no poise melee only and say that again

>>123950685
thanks

>>123950308
I'm glad you exist

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>>123950975
It's always nice to know that someone likes what you make, but as for me it's about not being even remotely close to those I admire. Not being able to put the ideas on paper just the way they're in my head is infuriating.
Both of those posts you've addressed are mine though, fellow berserker.
Thank you for the kind words.

>>123951145
T-thank you, t-too.

Just beat four kings for the first time.
Retarded.
I don't know what changes about having Beatrice there but it means it takes like 4 times as long to clear out the ghosts and asshole guys with swords for him not to just spam the bullshit moves 100% of the time.
Before I beat him it was running through my head that he was actually a deal breaker for further runs of the game.

Protip, kids. Don't do meme builds on your first run. That extra faith might have helped with my silver knight sword but I'm sure there are other weapons to get more comfortable with AND have better scaling to let you have more vitality and endurance. I sure as fuck wasn't going to try throwing only 10 damn lightning spears at him.

>>123949823
Anyone?

>>123926854
The game grumps beat it.
Man up. You can do this.

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>>123950328
Atmosphere is depressing, and it compliments a depressed mood. It is comfortable. The DEEP LORE and pleasing aesthetics enable escapism and distraction.

At the same time, however, the characters (at least in DaS1) are endearing, and often tease out a smile. Their invariably grim ends aren't pleasing in the least though.

The games themselves are also satisfying because they're fair, for the most part -- despite the risk of frustration.

>>123950975
Maybe all artists are humble, or maybe they are all sociopaths that lie about themselves so you will think they are a humble and nice person, or maybe they are just retarded.

>>123951894
man I wasn't here at all cuz I played the game instead of browsing the gens for it, but they actually killed themselves? that's hilarious.

Also, there any spells at all worth getting attunement to 1-2 slots? otherwise my str build is pretty much just pure str (unless I decide to go for majestic GS or ivory king UGS, majestic with its dumb 20/20 and ivory takes 30 whopping dex)

is ivory ugs even worth it?

>>123951706
Got past most of the bosses so far on my first try. Killed Darkbeast and now I have no idea where to go. I'm trying super hard not to spoil myself, so after I post this, I'm going to sleep. Goodnight, /dsg/.
FC when?

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>>123950308
That is very, very good. Please don't let your skill/talent go to waste.

>>123950975
I suppose thoughtful folks tend to be insecure. Who knew.

>>123952016
Monk3y says "Never"

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why doesnt the filename filter work?

>>123952408
>using built in shit for normies

where can I get that proper first person mod table that's being used in the main webm for the thread?

>>123925832
Raw combat mechanics and animations were generally improved in DaS2 except for the rolling.

What was massively fucked was the level design, enemy design, visual style, invasion system, hit boxes, lore, writing, and just about everything that wasn't the basic combat.

>>123952408
Because he's using different characters that look exactly like normal ones just to avoid getting filtered.

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>Pinwheel demon died in 15 seconds

>>123953493
I really wonder what sort of a sad state of non life you have to be in to continue to do this.

>>123953319
>invasion system
Dunno man, DaS2 was the only game in the series where I could instantly invade any invadable zone anytime. It's fantastic for quick sessions.

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>>123952250
That's honestly too kind of you guys to be making comments like this. I do immensely appreciate it, but the more it hurts to know that you're unaware of how big of a piece of shit I am.
Despite it all, I love /dsg/ and all of you here. I rarely posted and I intend to keep it this way. I know I'm a self-obsessed attention whore, so I'm better left ignored.
Again, thank you.

in screenshots, I see everyone has like 45 humanity. How is that possible? I always have 0, and die constantly. I am never able to really accumulate much. And what I do get I use to kindle bonfires.

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Okay what. Sotfs is 12,49e but only 2,49e when I log in. Guess I'm buying that shit.

>>123953404
Are you me? I did pinwheel right after >>123951320

Hardest part about that level was deciding whether or not to drop down the 3 or 4 pits that had goodies on them.

>>123953710
Discounted if you own the base game I think.

>>123953808
No no I mean the upgrade which assumes you already own the base game. 12,49 logged out, 2,49 logged in.

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>>123953710
yea noticed the same today myself

see:
>>123940641
>>123946978

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>>123945343
>Balder side sword
>Do NOT count on this dropping from the ones in undead parish.
>I'm not even sure if it's possible. But some say it does.
>Don't bother farming it
>This is really a mid-game weapon
>as it drops from Sen's Fortress easily.

hahahaha how fucking high are you god damn

>>123951252
Unrelated to /dsg/ but I figured a fellow Berserker would enjoy this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VnLY_iQxGU

Just remember, if Guts can reach a happy ending, so can you. Just keep fighting, friendo.

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>>123953493
>easy as fuck
>rehashes
>trash mobs instead of an actual fight
>shit music
>shit areas
>no lore
>all of these are called "bosses"
Holy flying mother of fuck, B-team.

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>>123947127

>>123953796
>>123953404

I think Pinwheel is supposed to be an early boss. But the rest of the catacombs is annoying and hard because of the necromancers. Then the Tomb of the giants is filled with giant skellingtons that kick my ass hard. But Pinwheel was such a joke of a boss.

Now I keep dying in Tomb and falling to my death.

>>123953701
You'll learn in time to hold on to your humanities. Kindling bonfires will provide you with more estus flasks every time you sit down by that bonfire.

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>Dark Souls

I guess I found how the name came around for the game.

>>123954542
I highly recommend saving Dusk and learning all the Oolacille sorceries, but especially 'Light', before heading down there.

I too saved Pinwheel till late game, and found it laughably easy to destroy it with a fully upgraded Furysword and 40 END. Two-handed and just beat the piss out of it. I was so pissed to find that it was the boss that dropped the rite of kindling. Would have loved to have had the extra Estus while trying to solo Farley and Spade.

>>123954682
The Souls series is just one big reference to Berserk, are you only figuring this out now?

>>123954798
MOOOOOOOOODS

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>>123954440
You sure know how to make me all sobby, you know that?
OFF THE BOAT.

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>>123954773
>Not farming Necromancers for the lantern

>>123954798
>Let's hope Dark Souls 3 gets the full love and attention!

It will as Miyazaki is working on it, so no worries of the B-Team. Wonder what berserk references shall be in the game.

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>>123954906
I just want to have an egg instead of my head again. Silly stuff like that where lacking in DS2

What's a good strategy for the giant skelletons? They keep destroying me. And the lack of light really hurts too.

>>123954647
>you'll never kiss those lips
why live?

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>>123954841
>Finding out about this now

I don't see any the indication of me noticing Dark Souls being on the page during the reread got to do with me just finding out about the influence. Silly assumption.

>>123954798
God damn it anon, I hadn't fapped yet today, but now I literally have no choice
mind pouring some sauce on that for me?

>>123954867
I have been told I have a way with words. Glad I was able to share a good thing with an appreciative human.

>>123954879
I actually did the balls out method of running through the catacombs to kill the necromancers, but since I died killing the final necromancer, I never got his lantern.

Not that it mattered, since there's a free one in the Tomb of Giants anyway. The sorcery was just a convenient alternative that let me keep my shield up.

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>>123955012
Kiss these.

So I bought DS1 and DS2: SotFS a while ago on Steam and never got around to playing either. I hear DS1 is more favored, but is the online scene still active enough to warrant playing it?

Also, what's a good build for first time around?

>>123954798

Nice.

>>123954906
My only worry left is ds2 irreversibly face fucking the story/lore with its bullshit. I would say I hope Miyazaki ignores it completely, but we've already seen a giant so I assume that isn't the case sadly.

>>123955047
fag

>putting vamos in a pit with pinwheels

Who thought this was a good idea?

>>123955060
"good builds" are only referential to PVP. If you just want to play the PVE side for the story, you can build anything and still succeed, with certain styles just being a bit harder than others(full mage for example). For a first time play through, I suggest making an all-rounder till you can feel out what you like most, with a focus on VIT and END for survivability. After you find a weapon or playstyle you enjoy, you can prioritize the offensive stat that style relies on.

>>123955060
Its more alive than sotfs.

>tfw there will never be anything in Dark Souls as based as the Blueblood Swordsman

>>123955060
Online play is definitely not something to look forward to in either game. You should beat both games just for the single player experience and then decide if you wanna stick around for online play.

>>123954906

Probably a boat reference as after seven years the ride is over.

>>123955357
who?

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>>123955174
there is no need in souls games to even reference the previous games. Dark souls 2 only did so in major points like linking the fires etc. But we never heard of Gwyn again or the lost son etc.

>>123955040
>>123955082
Eyecatch henreader hitomi.la

>>123955458
>never heard of the lost son
>his fucking statue is still around and solaire's sword+sunlight miracles exists

So what are the chances DaS3 will be leaning to the Chosen undead going Dark lord route?

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>>123955458
>there is no need in souls games to even reference the previous games.
But they have and people will continue to patch them together. I really wish DaS2 never happened.

Is DS1 required high graphic card to play? I want to get it on steam sale but I worry if it can't run well on my toaster.

>>123955709
Oh shit, anon, what have you done. DkS2 defence forces are en route.

>>123955437
Not a who. A 'what'

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/character-builds:3

>>123955791

Depends how much of a toaster your toaster is.

>>123955809
I'm sure they are...

>>123955809
>defence forces are en route

Nah most of those fuckers are gone.

>>123955831
Well, my toaster still can run Arkham city on low setting. It's that okay?

>>123955969
Look up your computer specs and then look up Dark Souls' minimum requirements. We're not tech support.

>>123955969

YOu will be able to play it, but your framerates will take a massive shit at that poison place.

>>123955969
That should be fine I think. You might not be able to do 60fps though.

Some tips if you do get the game: Try not to use any guides and don't put anything in the resistance stat, its pointless.

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>>123955709
Look at the concept art. Read interviews from before the game launched. Now put it all together. The game was intended to be massive. Somewhere in the last months of development (when the trailers start looking like shit) they redid the game because muh dedgen couldn't run what they had, and because of whatever happened to Shibuya, the first dev (Tanimura took over halfway through). And I think Namco started pressuring dlc as both directors explicitly stated that they wanted no dlc but that's only a theory. So areas of the game were semi-cut and introduced as dlc (all 3 queens and some models still existed in basegame before dlcs were announced), the rest of the areas were cut and pasted together, graphics, engine, AND sound were downgraded (listen to the skeleton dragon roar at the demon at e3).

Oh and they also stressed how time and ocean travel would play a big role which obviously got cut.

Basically, dark souls 2 should have wiped the floor with dark souls 1 (and any other game released in the past few years) but instead became a laughingstock.

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I'm rapidly losing hope for DaS3 guys.
It's starting too look as bland and boring as Bloodborne. I starting to think they'll never be able to make something as good as DeS or DaS again.

>>123956163
I hope that's what happened to the story too.

>>123956321
I don't man, BB looks pretty sweet to me.

>>123956321

BB is fun, but the issue is comparing it to Dark Souls.

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>>123956321
>bland and boring as Bloodborne

>>123956348
look at all the unused dialogue lines and npc references to nonexistant areas
it would've been better yes, but based on what scraps of lore do exist, my guess is that it would've been extremely linear and hard to misinterpret

>dark souls has great controls

nice meem

Demon Souls has near perfect controls.

The new additions are questionable, and are much more likely to cause death than help

>dashing + roll = jump causes a lot of unintended jumps
>jump attack = unintended attacks
>kick is hard to pull off consistently

>>123957595
Is this the new four kings-esque shitpost?

>>123957595
>Demon Souls has near perfect controls.
>floaty movement
>backstabs move you forward, making them dangerous to perform when near ledges
Nice shitpost.

DeS had the best atmosphere and most coherent in general, it felt least cut and rushed of all despite low budget. But gameplay in DeS in inferior to sequels. Even to DS2, really.

Speaking of old rigs, any chance DS3 will run on my Core Duo E8500 GTX560Ti and 4GB of RAM? First two games were pretty well optimized for old hardware since they had to run on shitty 360s but I assume 3 might be problematic since it's designed with 8gigs of RAM in mind and multiple cores.

>>123957990

Can't say as we don't know the spec of the third game.

>>123957990
Not sure but even Phantom Pain runs on those specs so there's that.

>>123957884

Demon's is much faster paced. It is so much better. Dark Souls is in comparison sluggish.

>>123958342
That's a silly way of saying "weightless".

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how does my char's face look lads

waifu material?

>>123958840
Looks like trap. Pretty much like every other female character in DkS2.

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Don't mind me, just being a really shitty boss.
>>123958840
It's a man, baby. Reminds me of Prince for some reason.

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does this look better? is it the hair?

>>123959205
>huge nose
>masculine chin
>eyebrows
>gigantic mouth
>lads
its not the hair mate

>>123959205
Nose and chin, face is too long.

How is magic/faith in Dark Souls 2 right now? I remember back when the game came out that lightning spears and magic in general was pretty op. I'm looking for something to take me through the game and the DLC since I haven't done any of them yet. Also some pvp (if I ever find any) would be nice

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>>123959289
now?

>>123959656
everything in my opinion of course.
her nose is too long
her lips are a little too thick
her eyebrows are too thick
and they are too furrowed
her jawbone is too pronounced
her nose is too big in general
maybe her face is a little too long
a short sturdy creature fond of drink and industry

>>123959971
Based Mods

I know it's tedious, but It really does mean a lot to us. Keep up the good work.

>>123959386
Hexes are for pure PvP and PvE damage (though they can be hard to land in PvP)
Sorceries are the same but requier a smaller stat investment
Miracles that do damage have been nerfed to shit, they basically only exist for utility like weapon buffs and heals
Pyromancy sort of exists

>>123959971
Sorry, didn't mean to quote you.

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>>123959971
ty for the advice man

>>123960192
How about Dark Pyromancy?

>>123960720
No wait I'm retarded. Don't know why I thought there were dark pyromancies.

>>123960720
Doesn't exist

I hope we get another type of Magic in DaS3. I'm personally hoping for Cryomancy.

>>123960859
I want more crazy self buffs like Power Within and Immolation.

what are you guys wishlist for DkS3?
mine is
>no early bonfire teleportation
>no soul memory
>no iframe stats

Go to genderbender coffin in DaS2, post results.

>>123961434
these
also not too much magic. three are enough schools of magic
hopefully we get cryomancy or something neat like that.

>>123961434
Give us outlines for the most active players for your SM/SL/whatever system they decide to go with, that shit was so useful

>>123956163
I also heard that DaS2 originally was going to be an open world game.

>>123961434
keep blue sentinels, but:
-full orb
-no requirements for being summoned as long as they're below 10 sin, covenants/level dont matter

how do you guys have so much humanity?

>>123961434
1. Full orbs.
2. No DS2 lore.
3. Normal enemies respawn infinitely.
4. No agility stat.
5. No praise the sun memes or anything Solaire-related

>>123942472
Once you get a little more practice with the giants, it's easier. Especially if you take out the archer first and fight them one at a time.

If they do their wide swing or WoG: fall back or shield block (depending on your roll speed).

If they do a long chop or lunge: sidestep, then get close and punish.

If they do a shield bash: run between their legs, punish.

>>123960192
>Miracles that do damage have been nerfed to shit, they basically only exist for utility like weapon buffs and heals
Blinding bolt and heavenly thunder are decent enough.
>Pyromancy sort of exists
Firesnake and combustion are really popular in pvp.

>>123956163
>wiped the floor

Yeah, just like every other unreleased game throughout the history. Grow up.

I also don't see how this affects the fact that DkS2 is shit.

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>>123959971

>not loving thick eyebrows

>>123962226
>Blinding bolt and heavenly thunder are decent enough.
Compared to shit like Climax or just the flat out millions of casts of Dark Orb? Both of which also deal stamina damage because go fuck yourself

>>123961434
Since full orb, no sm and invader healing have already been confirmed:
>Batshit insane transformations.
Broccoli from Bloodborne is a good example.
>New covenants with bizarre concepts.
>References to all previous games and explanations to already established connections.
>Decent weapon balance

>>123962318
>getting hit by dark orb/climax
>ever
Meanwhile, both blinding bolt and heavenly thunder are AOEs that spawn many projectiles in a randomized fashion.

>>123962552
Who cares about magic in PvP anon? Especially in DS2

>>123955252
A T E A M
T
E
A
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>>123962870
>Ornifex is surrounded by spiders and homing orbs
>dogs right outside McDuff's forge
B-team does it again!

>>123963008
That was quick, DaSdrone.

>>123963054
Always here to show you how DS2 has all the problems of DS1, but more, DaS2ard.

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What would an adequate heidi sword/faith build be? SL124

>>123963008
>you can bait spear demons to kill the giant blacksmith and fuck the host for a whole NG cycle because that is good game design
At least DaS2 has gravestones.

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>faith build
>heard that defender's greatsword is great for FAI
>got Claymore already, yesterday finally got the soul needed
>faith weapon
>looks like a rusty piece of edge itself
Are there greatswords that are not just good for FAI build, but also look the part?

Some anon mentioned that ds2 had 4 paths when you arrive at manjula.
What did he mean?
What paths are there if you don't consider stuff like low-level runners that can do valley of the drakes at sl1?

>>123963341
>At least DaS2 has no invasions outside the Bell and Rat King's since B-team thought removing orbs is such a great idea
ftfy

>>123963406
there are basically 3, the hole, heide's, and shaded woods, since fofg goes to the same place as heide's
woods needs a branch, either from bastille or the gutter
heide's is available immediately with no requirements
the hole needs you toclear fofg for the 13.5k souls for silvercat and some VIT

>>123961986
>>123962129
>full orb
Why the fuck do you need a full orb if SM won't be a thing? Cracked orbs are usefull to give souls a point late game. Infact it would reduce accidental overleveling.

>>123963473
>dastard lying
0 NODES
0 NODES
0 NODES
0 NODES
0 NODES
DaS is dead even on PS3, the home of NEETS.

>>123961434
Decent Morning Star
CGS with Majestic Greatsword-tier craziness
Greathammers that can hit

>>123963782
It's funny, because 3 weeks ago when I was replaying it, I had more player invasions and co-op action than with NPCs in DS2 this week :^)

>>123963403
LGKGS looks cool, in my opinion.
Also fancy lightnan attack.

>>123963851
>Greathammers that can hit
I want my lancehammer back.

>>123964054
>LGKGS
Thorned Greatsword? Might give it a try, got a ton of dragon bones anyway.

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>>123963183
Anybody? this is my first time playing DaS2

>centipede demon
>he just grabs me and kills me

what

that's never happened before.

>>123964048
You must be a mad famous twitchstreamer senpai.
That explains your canned opinions.

>>123964048
how does it feel to be a liar
i went through a whole ng cycle on ds2 and only had 4 player summons, zero invasions

>>123964164
50 in faith + weapon requirements. The rest is up to you.

>>123963406
Folrest of the fallen giants->lost bastille->ruin sentinels->sinners rise->lost sinner
Heides tower of flame->no mans warf->lost bastille->ruin sentinels or lost sinner, ruin sentines is optional in this route
Hole->optional grave of saints->gutter->black gulch->rotten (key for the first DLC, the teleport is behind rotten)
Hutsmans copse->optional chariot->earthern peak->iron keep->old iron king
Shaded woods branches into 3 paths
a) castle drangleic (shrine of winter needs 4 great souls or 1 mil SM
b)shaded ruins->optional other rats area->brightstone cove->freija
c)Aldias keep->dragon something->dragon aerie (you need kings ring to get to aldias place)

Basically you can do any of the 4 great souls (sinner, rotten, freija, old iron king) in any order, but you need the 13k souls ring to survive the fall into the hole or an NPC from erther peak to build a ladder for you. You can skip pursuer or Ruin Sentinels but not both.

>>123964184
>want to fight ceaseless for real
>prepare myself for shitty hitboxes because biggest enemy in the series
>prepare myself for attacks i literally never saw even in video
>he just does a single tentacle slam over and over
Maybe because i don't move from the area where the loot is but dayum

>>123964048
>doesn't happen to me lalala :)

>>123964917
Who are you quoting, DaS2ard?

>>123964391
>doesn't use red string or token of spite
>doesn't sin
>doesn't use the dried finger
>isn't human because he's so bad
>plays purposefully outside of the common playerpool
>plays on weekday when the japs are asleep because he's jobless
Why not kill yourself already?

>>123965286
Your mom when she got assfucked by the burglars and asked for seconds.

>>123965391
Classic DaS2ard argumentation, cute. Well, shitty game is bound to have a shitty fanbase, so no surprise here.

>>123964564
>>want to fight ceaseless for real

you're not really meant to. The guys I've seen do it on Youtube just exploited his AI and made him do that one tenacle swipe over and over again.

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>fire up DkS2 for the first time in 6 months
>mfw default face presets

I remember them being terrible, but not THIS fucking terrible. Holy fuck, whoever made them, have they ever seen a human face before?

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>>123965448
You're the perfect example of your statement, well done, spermbreath.

What's a good weapon for doing catacombs early?

Astora Straight Sword?
Divine Morningstar?

>>123965448
>DaS2ard
>dastwoard
You seem to have troubles creating epic memes m8.
Dü bißt das dreck.

>>123965539
Just run past everything

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>das2
>infinite stamina NPC phantoms with 900000 health and different attack animations than players
>good

heh

>meme solaire: Happy go lucky "jolly good cooperation" guy
>real solaire: A man on a quest for his purpose in life after undead, who tries to help others, but becomes increasingly depressed upon not finding his answer

Why does everyone only remember the meme version?

>Das2
>mistakenly buy 1 lifegem from vendor
>have to re-plan my entire run because twinkies will now invade me
>mistakenly spent my well calculated souls into a level
>now lvl 999 faggots will invade me
shit game shake my head design to be honest family

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>>123965882

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>>123965882
>DaS1
>get invaded by twinks whatever I do and get instacursed by a slavhaxx

It's just not possible to have nice things in these games.

>>123965686
>DaS2ard confirmed for germ
LMAO
No wonder you shitpost all the time, probably still mad after slavs kicked your ass back in WW2.

>>123965494
Not to be the devil's advocate but dark souls 1 body types and "races" or whatever they are called are atrocious.
Thankfully i literally never have to see my face in either game unless i want to

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/

Rate my current build

>>123965760
The damage is pathetically weak tho and i could easily circlestrafe them, even easier than the royal guards or the hollow soldiers

>>123966313
p gud
the only winning move is to not play

>>123966313
>not being a naked sl 1 darkwraith
fucking sissy

>>123966313
Best PvP troll if you can master that equipment.

>>123966126
>dasdreck is mad that ubermenschen prefer the piece of art

>>123966126
Iм a slav and I shiтposт too.
Through shitposting, unity.

>>123966126
>>123966905
You two do this almost every day.
Do you feel like you've made a difference in anyone's lives?

>>123967374
that;'s a long link

http://mmdks.com/7svn

How bout this?

>Balder Side Sword
>1% Drops from Balder Side Sword-wielding Knight

Does that include the Church? Since I have never ever seen the Church ones drop it.

>>123968226
Yes

>>123967973
might need a more potent close range option. maybe a rapier or balder side sword, possibly a shotel to hit through pesky shields (a problem on bow builds)

take a few points in dex and add them to vit in my opinion.

other than that looks fine, the hawk ring may be a bit more useless than you think, try thinking of another one, steel prot maybe.