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Marvelous Edition

Invaded >>123918381


>DARK SOULS 3
>Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XwhYVzN_a0
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dark_souls_iii_gc_gameplay_reveal-35231_en.html
>Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RAlGv-IW4g
>Screenshots & Artwork
Official: https://imgur.com/a/GUjb3
Leaked: https://imgur.com/a/c08Bb
New screenshots & artwork: http://imgur.com/a/5fhcQ
>Leak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyRJ5u-L8qw
>Interviews
http://pastebin.com/PUSbw02s
>Gameplay
http://pastebin.com/yWzzuVV1

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
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DS2 is best
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Toasting new bread with Forlorn questions

Is his weapons or armor any good?

Can he not invade if you beat the area boss he can invade in?

Can you force him to spawn at all (wiki mentions just sitting at a bonfire might make him invade?)
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>>124024720
>him
>forlorn is a person

die
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best girl
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>Died to Capra a few times
>I know: I'll employ a clever tactic and apply poison to my spear
>never got the effect
>win anyway
I thought I was being so smart, too.
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>>124024720
I think he invades purely randomly, maybe one or two guaranteed times like at the Huntsman Copse. His gear is shit, do not bother.
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>Use Fume Knight UGS' 2H L2 to succesfully block a player's attack I predicted
>Dude dodges the swing anyway
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>>124026326
Are you the guy that asked about the bridge drake?
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>>124026205
Cut content doesn't count
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>>124026714
Nope.
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>>124026908
>we will never have daughteru souls
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6m SM, Scholar, on PC. Every single area I try to invade or summon for is completely dead. Am I bunned? The only thing I did with CE is change my character name by 2 letters, could that have done it? If so this is bullshit.
Will try to invade on a new character with lower SM to see if it's just this SM range being empty or my entire account.
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>>124029402
>The only thing I did with CE is change my character name by 2 letters
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>>124029402
I went afk in the iron keep immediately after this and a guy invaded me and tried to poison fog me. False alarm I guess, this SM range is just basically dead.
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Soul Memory is so unforgivable

DS2 could have been decent

Why
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>>124029631
THE SAME GUY GOT ME AFK AGAIN GOD DAMN
I beat him both times though :^)
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Trying to do an artorias build will this work not gonna do pvp

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=d2FycmlvciwxMSw4LDQzLDQwLDQwLDExLDE4LDE4LDAsNjIsNTMsNTAsNTMsMzEsMjIsMTcyLDE3NCwwLDAsbm9ybWFsLG5vcm1hbCxub3JtYWwsbm9ybWFsLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCx3b29kZW4sd29vZGVuLHdvb2Rlbix3b29kZW4sMSwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCww

on the way to artorias what weapon should I use, im thinking claymore and the greatsword of artorias
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>>124030004
Some b team fag was upset about getting twinked on. I bet Shibuya wouldn't have allowed SM. He should have directed the game completely.
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>>124029631
>this SM range is just basically dead.
>tfw even vanilla 5m is more alive than that
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>>124030212
Protip
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>>124030004
It's a silly, shitty design idea but it shouldn't get in the way of having fun. Just abuse agape ring and savescumming, makes the game much more enjoyable.
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>>124029106
FromSoftware hates kids
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>>124030652
More like one person in charge has a grudge against lolicons

Probably Bamco shills
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>>124026473
A shame, I thought it looked kind of neat. Then again, I also liked how artorias' gear looked. Lets say I do want some of his garbage gear anyway, would best way to just spam sit at a bonfire he can invade at/near?

>>124026608
They can still dodge the strike? wow that kind of sucks. Was thinking of using it too.
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>>124030652
>>124030763
Tanimura our guy.
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>>124030212
You need 20 int and faith to use the noncursed greatsword of artorias. I know it sucks but the guy has to be able to use his own weapon right?
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>>124031161
>tfw im a shotacon

;_;
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>>124031213
die
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JFDPCtXFY
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>>124031213
Mods?
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>>124031386
>ban shotafags but not the lolifags
Is this nazi germany?
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>>124031213
nigga das gay
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>>124031605
not if you're a girl :^)
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>>124032036
lundin
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Reminder that this guy is literally the hardest enemy in Ds2
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Post webms
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>>124032808
if you say so
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Alright guys, i've got a dilemma. I wanna do an Arced Sword run for shits and giggles but Scholars on my PC can't run and is outside the refund window so whatever. So should i get it on PS4 or just do it in the original?

Tell me how to spend my money.
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>>124031213
Lolita is a nickname for Dolores, Shota is "little gayboy"
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>>124032940
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>>124032808
>blocking
Oh shit nigger what are you doing.
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>>124033469
you post the best stuff, debug-anon
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>>124033628
>this nigga tho
Remember anon, you may have a lot of stamina but he has infinite stamina.
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>>124033856
and thank you for chasing 4cunts away and making it blow its head off.
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>>124034505
here we go....
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>bb is down
forgot how shitty souls pvp is
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When and why did /dsg/ turn on Afro?
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>>124032808
You must have a short term memory.
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>>124032808
>>124036681
Nah.
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what are some armor sets that are good and worth upgrading in DS 2?
i'm currently using the aurous set, because it has
these amazing stats but it still is a burden on
my equip load.
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Is Charcoal Pine Resin or Flame Weapon better?
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>>124040230
They're equivalent, except on I think the duration for Flame Weapon since I think that scales better with your fire bonus from int/fth. Aromatic Ooze and Gold/Dark pine resin are also equivalent to crystal magic weapon and sunlight blade/dark weapon too.

>>124040060
Certain light armor sets have insane defenses when you fully upgrade them, like better than heavy armor sets with 1/3rd the weight, just without any poise. I like the wanderer, leather, and jester sets for that.
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Does anything stagger Priscilla? I've tried everything that I've read online and nothing works.
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can someone help me clear the crystal cave? I keep getting knocked off by the golden golem.
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>>124038102
>that damage
>that infinite poisebreak
>that small hitbox
>that making maldron harder to kill
fuck those guys
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>>124042329
Maldron the Ass is hands down the best invader in the series.
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So /dsg/, a friend of mine is starting his first SoTFS run and he's a pretty big fan of Binding of Isaac. I plan to invade him cosplaying as the seven deadly sins -
Lust, obviously a desert sorceress
Gluttony, Catarina armor is obvious but I dunno what else, probably just the biggest shit you can get, fat roll and a ton of health
Greed, I have absolutely no clue
Sloth, slow fucker without the stats to wield a weapon
Wrath, incredibly aggressive, light armor, dual wield
Envy, copying his armor and weapon loadout
Pride, an allrounder taunting over and over midfight

Help me fill in the blanks/offer advice on builds for each/call me a faggot for doing a flamboyant homo thing, anything would be appreciated
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>>124042771
>Gluttony, Catarina armor is obvious but I dunno what else, probably just the biggest shit you can get, fat roll and a ton of health
Catarina + Dragon head
>Greed, I have absolutely no clue
Symbol of Avarice. Maybe plan an ambush where you drop some item and use chameleon to hide, then backstab as he grabs said item.
Consider Butchers Knife or Eleum Loyce. Or both. Lifesteal's cool for Greed, but thematically works for gluttony as well.
>Sloth
Use PWoP.
>Envy, copying his armor and weapon loadout
Use acid clouds and acid urns. It's cruel, but thematically appropriate.
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>>124042771
>greed
hex
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>>124043316
Oh, also use sanctum mace or some other kind of poison weapon for sloth. Slow death etc. etc.
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When is the best time to do the Painted World in NG?
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>>124044132
Right after Biggie and Smalls when you can warp is fine.
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>>124043316
>>124043652
Fantastic, thanks dawg
What sort of armor sets should I use for sloth/wrath/pride? I'd like wrath to be a light form of metal, but I cant' think of very many metal sets that ARE light
Maybe a mix of mad warrior/charred loyce?
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Throne Watcher going all Marilyn Monroe on me, yet she's not even trying to cover up! It's obscene.
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>>124026205
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Guys I need one more fucking sunlight medal for the max rank and nobody is summoning me. Can someone help? My sign is outside the demon of song fight. Scholar, on pc, 6.5m sm.
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>>124044427
>I'd like wrath to be a light form of metal, but I cant' think of very many metal sets that ARE light
Become an edgelord with executioner's chestpiece and aurous helmet. Use the bound shield for parrying, cause we need more spikes.
>sloth
This reminds me of early DaS2 days, cause I once made a thematically similar character.
I used this for my snailman character: rusted mastadon greaves, rusted ironclad chestpiece, sanctum soldiers bracers and sanctum tiara. Also make sure to make your character a squished face with a large dark brown tatoo all over it, so it blends with Sanctum Tiara in a single mess of something icky.
>pride
Something GOLD would be cool. You know, think of King Knight from Shovel Knight. Maybe velstads or ruin sentinel set with iron king crown.
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>Use fire arrows
>128 damage
>use regular arrows 143

Do fire arrows not do fire damage? Guides say they're weak to fire.

Is this an over looked bug? Because this can't be intentional.
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>>124045829

What game? I think in Dark Souls you need a Fire or a Chaos bow for fire arrows.
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>>124046296

Dark Souls

And that makes zero sense. You can see the flame when you fire the arrow. And the description says they add fire and make no refernece to needing a fire bow. It's most likely an over sight.

Do Fire Bows always add Fire element always or just with fire arrows?
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>>124045474
Oh, and alternatively if you don't wanna farm Aurous faggots, you could try vengarls with the red eye ring. Never tried it but hopefully it'll make your headpiece look like it's breathing fire.
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>>124046471
>Do Fire Bows always add Fire element always or just with fire arrows?

I'm not sure about that one. It has been a year or two since I used fire arrows. I only remember that I had trouble getting the fire damage from fire arrow, and that ascending the bow helped.
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>>124044452
you're aware that TW is male, are you m80?
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>>124048425
with that bulge she certainly is.
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anywhere in DeS or DaS for ps3 where I could have actual invasions? not ''honorubu duerus''.
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>>124045829

It's the way the damage is split when it has partly elemental damage. A large arrow is 60 physical. A fire arrow is 35 and 50 fire. And because every enemy has a resistance to each element, a weapon that does a single type of damage will regularly outdamage one that splits it even if added up on paper the split one has a higher number.
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>>124049504

That's dumb.
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>>124049675

You're dumb.
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>>124049751

The whole point of adding elements is to exploit elemental weaknesses. But if the damage splitting results in it not doing as well as regular non-elemental attacks, what's the point of elements?
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>>124049813

Enemies that are listed on the wiki as vulnerable to a certain element has a lower defense to that certain element. For example, a lot of mobs (and players for that reason) have weak lightning defenses. Which is why lightning infusion is so popular.
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>>124050042

I hit the 4 Jings with a fire arrow for 128. Regular was 143. Sites say they're very weak to fire.

Something's up. I'm gonna make a composite fire bow to compare.
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>>124050284

If you're only using a fire arrow with a regular bow you're doing minimal fire damage that is probably negated by the mob's defense.
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>>124048425
Pfft, yeah right, next you're gonna tell me Gwyndolin was a guy too or something. Get outta here you joker!

TW is seriously male? I was unaware. ;_;
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>>124050284
I don't know where the site got their info, but they are extremely weak to fire.

On my sl1 run I had 10 humanity and a +5 chaos reinforced club and I had a +5 lightning hand axe. The hand axe did like 1.5x more damage when it normally does so much less than the chaos club.
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>>124050558
Soul Description and weapon description both refer to him as a he
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>>124050632
>I don't know where the site got their info, but they are extremely weak to fire.

I think you meant lightning.

And it's hard comparing hand axe to reinforced club because of the club's R2 which does a lot more damage than regular weapons.
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>>124050558
"The Watcher has stood by the throne for ages.
Will his wishes be fulfilled?"

"The Watcher has stood by the throne for ages.
Will his wait be worth the while?"

From his shield and sword. All his armor says "his" too. And defender is also a guy. I never got where the rumor that it was a girl came from.
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whats a socially acceptable shield to use in dark souls 1
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>>124050840

Who cares. It's another shitty unremarkable boss in a shitty unremarkable game.
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>>124050831
I meant resistant to fire*

My bad. Freudian slip.
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>>124050909
buckler
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>>124050840
>I never got where the rumor that it was a girl came from.
Pretty sure like 90% of the shit thats straight up wrong about the game came from the guy that made the prepare to cry lore series
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>>124050940
Yeah the bloodletter L2 is crazy

I was wanting to just go to the well and ignore him
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>>124050909
>socially acceptable

end yourself
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anyone want to help me for rom?

password is bbg, lv 50, just before the fog gate
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>>124051064
Good job dummy, you fell for it.
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Posted in a dead thread
Blackwaltz if you're here I'm good to go whenever you are
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Still fighting Laurence ng+ if anyone would like to join and help. Password is: Old
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holy fuck I hate this game

I just want my goddamn rakuyo

re-ringing, just run straight to the well this time
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>>124050284

Site's wrong. They're not that vulnerable to fire. Either that or they have high health like gaping so it doesn't matter.
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>>124051136
>>>/vg/bbg/
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>>124050909

Dark Hand. In your main hand.
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Thank you so goddamn much Apple anon

You saved my Maria run
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No worries m8, I'll ring until he's dead or I am.
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just one shotted someone with the bloodletter. must be someone on bbg with 30 vit.
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>>124051298
>>124050632
>>124050941

Site was wrong then? Someone should correct it then before I waste my time trying to use fire weapons on them.

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/the-four-kings
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RATE OLD HUNTERS BOSSES IN TERMS OF DIFFICULTY

DO THE SAME FOR ALL SOULS GAMES
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>>124050909
Every shield. People who hates shields in Souls games are shitters and memers.
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Oh for fucks sake, that was my bad
Ring a dinging
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>>124051774

>Ludwig
Died 5 times

>Living Failures
Died 0 times

>Maria
Died 1 time

>Laurence
Died 2 times
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>>124051250
>>124051260
>>124051683
>>124051774

Go away. >>124051215
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>>124050909
all of them
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>boss is only hard because it's impossible to angle your camera on it
What is this shit? I feel like this is what they meant when they said 'fake difficulty'.
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>>124053918
Which boss?
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>>124052589

magic shield lasts 15 secs
it's borderline useless
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>tfw you have exactly 5 weight left before midrolling so you equip something with exactly 5 weight and instead of being 25.0% it goes just over the threshold

y u do dis miyazaki?
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>>124054213
Cleric Beast :^)
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>>124054642
>15 seconds of fucking invincible
It's not that bad.
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http://darksouls.wikidot.com/unused-content#toc27

Who wrote this? Because already I see errors.I've gotten Vamos' so called unused dialogue in the game.
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>>124054820
Don't lock on, idiot.

Also, >>124051215
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>got the tiny being ring
>tiny hp increase
>got wolf ring, hawk ring, steel defense ring, right before
>get a ring that boots hp, stamina, equip load by 20% right after

Literally why. This thing should be found really early game in Firelink it's nice to have but really out classed by everything else.
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How do you fight the 4 jings? I have no sense of direction and the room is really confusing and I keep getting hit. I haven't figured our their attack pattern yet.

I swear this game is schizo with boss and enemy difficulty. For me at least. Maybe it's just my setup.

>Iron Golem is piss easy
>Biggie Smalls gives me tons of trouble
>pinwheel is a joke
>ghosts are annoying
>Dark wraiths are a joke
>4 jings seem really hard
>demon centipede is super easy
>flame demon is easy

new Rondo is supposed to be done long before Izalith right? Izaleth and demon ruins feel much easier.
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>>124041378
I used a whip. Can't remember if I two-handed it and R2'd or just one-hand R2'd, but the heavy sweeping attack brought her out of invisibility in a few hits.
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>>124056343
New Londo isn't supposed to be done before any of the other areas particularly. It's unique in that it's the only of the Lord Souls you can get without clearing Anor Londo first but that's not the standard progression of the game.
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>>124042771
>wrath
>not a full-fledged pyro with flaming dual swords

ya dun goofed
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Stockpile Thomas:
>takes seconds to deposite all items not equipped

Dark Souls Item box:
>Gives you an entire list of your inventory
>not immediately obvious what is in your inventory or not
>takes much longer to depsosite items as you have to check through the whole list to see what is and is not in there
>same process to take items out
>usually ends up with never using it and having a bloated hard to navigate inventory

Who thought this was a good idea?
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>tfw wasn't able to beat the bell gargoyles without solaire to distract them for me
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Just upgraded Heide Knight Sword to +10 and infused it with lightning.. at 50 faith it barely does more damage than it did before I infused it..

I goofed, is there any weapon that scales well with faith? Preferably something with low physical requirements..
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>>124059021
First playthrough? Or trying to get the tail?
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>>124059021

We all done it.
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>>124059578
First. But I also got the tail on one of my tries.
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Think they might bring the luck stat back?
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>DaS 2K19
>Game starts, your character walks out Through some castle top when suddenly a dragon smashed onto the scene
>Solaire, now heavily muscle'd and donning a chainsaw sword prompts a QTE
>"Chosen, catch!"
>You press X as the game slows down and he tosses you a crossbow
>Switches to first person as you fire your automatic crossbow into the dragons neck
>"Press L2 to use Dragon Shouts"
>mfw
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>>124059873
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What should I do with Nashandra's soul?

And while I'm at it, how do I kimm Fume Knight?
>combo with small sword
>try to block
>run out of stamina as he switches to big ass sword
>try to avoid
>avoid the two first hits
>takes the remaining 3 hits in the ass
>can't counter
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>>124059873
>title screen has license music by popular pop/metal band
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>Decide to play Dark Souls again
>"Ah, my lowbie sunbro I never finished..."
>Make it through Keloggs, and try to get into Sen's
>Forgot to beat Gargoyles
>An hour or two later, make it Giant Blacksmith and get a +2 Lightning weapon
>Realise I need to beat Bert and Ernie before I can drain New Londo and farm Chunks and Slabs

I just wish it didn't take 5ever for somebody to summon me. I just want to kill Havel for you.
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>>124060428
>play SotFS
>put sign down because I'm maximum zombie and fuck using effigies
>get summoned
>guy just stands here for a while
>"you have been sent back by the master of this world"
I am a little upset.
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>>124059362
Lightning is just flat damage. It doesn't scale with Faith.

You want a Divine weapon if you're going Faith.
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What is a good Strength Faith build to start with?

Made a deprived and rushed dragon rider, still haven't leveled anything, any advice?

I want to make a Co-Op char so mainly focused pve.
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>>124060505
How is SotFS? I've heard it fixes some of DS2's problems.
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>>124060716
It's a little less forgiving than DaS2, gameplay-wise. You have more enemies, more often, and in different places, which keeps you on your toes.
Other than that, the community is still bloody awful.
>waa he doesn't fight me fair
>baaw I is invaded
>bwaa how dare you aggro that mob

And the durability problem still isn't fixed, which makes whips a pain in the ass to use.
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>>124050558
they are both males.
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It is just me or is Bed of Chaos the hardest boss?
I only know DaS1 & 2
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>>124060646
Find a weapon you like and make it Divine.

I'd recommend looking up where you want to co-op. You'll need to figure out what level you want to be, and what areas will typically have people around those levels. Also, figuring out what level you want to sit around will let you figure out where you want to distribute your stats.

For example; I've got a low STR character I use to help folks through Taurus Demon, Gargoyles and other bosses that are lower, but I'm keeping him at SL 16 so just about anybody who is just starting can summon him.

>>124060846
>Durability still not fixed
Well, that's a reason to not bother right there. I bet they still haven't given a proper solution to SM either.

God DaS2 was awful.
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>>124060946
>not Ornstein and Smough
>not the gargoyles
>not Gwyn
>not Capra Demon
>not literally every boss but Ms "I-sit-and-my-ass-and-wait"
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>>124060946
Beat it on the third attempt. Bows make everything easy.
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>>124060946
no but it's one of the best bosses in the game definitely.
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>>123972764
>Everyone is a dude in armor
Aside from that I also said "a rehash, or a mob". You already made a list and can see that third of bosses is already dudes in armor. And no, I personally wouldn't count Smelter and buttbuddies as dudes in armor. I'd count them as a boss with retarded hitboxes and one of the most boring bosses in the game respectively.

>Chariot
Puzzle boss with trash on top, the horse itself is boring.
>Skelly lords
It's just a bunch of trash mobs.
>Gargyoles
A complete rehash, down to soundtrack. Might as well count as a mob rush.
>Royal Rat Vanguard
Trash mobs with one tough rat.
>Royal Rat Authority
Sif rehash that is as cheap as encounter Capra in DS1.
>Najka
Rehash of Quelaag 0.5 with even less character.
>Prowling Magus
Trash mobs.
>Gaint Lord
Quite literally a Last Giant rehash with one extra move. At least Last Giant had that cool moment when he tears his own arm off to use a weapon.

That leaves us with third.
>Demon of Song
Legitimately good fight with great intro.
>Guardian Dragon
Exact same dragon you encounter in Heide tower, but with flying moves. Maybe a bit bigger?
>Old Iron King
I expected him to be as big as Dragon God and just as mean. I was disappointed and greeted with one of the worst boss fights in the game.
>Covetus
He reminded me of final boss in DeS. And no, not Allant. Was about as challenging to fight too.
>Last Giant
Despite being piss easy, he made a good impression.
>Freja
Torch turns the boss fight into a chore. Without a torch it's a mob rush.
>Mytha
She has some backstory, I guess. As a fight, it's mediocre at best.
>Rotten
Leechmonger and Adjusticator say hi.

(cont)
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>>124061017
I thought durability was fixed. That's why I even bought the game on sale.
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>>124061196

So yeah, 2 actually decent fights in the game with 3 times as many bosses as DS1. Nice.

>Darklurker
>Ancient Dragon
>Nashadra
>Aldia
Haven't fought those.

>Stop parroting everything you heard a youtuber say or whatever its dumb, come to your own conclusions
I can just as easily say "stop being a contrarian, just because everyone says DS2 is shit". I bought the game on this sale just to experience and judge it myself. Like I said, I enjoy teh game, but bosses are so awful it's not even funny.
At least seems like they realized their mistakes in DS2, Dancer was amazing.
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>>124061196
>literally answering 23h later
Still that butthurt, huh?

>>124061227
Me too.
;_;
Well, at least I had fun with the game.
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>>124061269
I looked on the wiki and the last patch said it fixed it? Is it actually not?
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>>124060584
>>124061017
What are you doing?
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>>124061307
>last patch said it fixed it
It did? I'm sorry, my whip broke so fast I haven't noticed.
I'm not sure, you're better off asking someone who played it regularily and not someone who just recently restarted it.
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>>124061307
>>124061360

They didn't fix it, they just removed durability drain when hitting corpses.
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>>124061269
>Still that butthurt, huh?
I don't browse 4chan from home because I play vidya there.
>literally 23h later
You can't even count, son.
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What's a good youtube channel for Dark Souls lore?
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>>124061540
VaatiVidya
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA JUST KIDDING
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>>124061330
Listening to music and waiting to be summoned. You?
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>>124061540

Plague's.
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>relatively new to the game
>got on sale, did a few tester runs, furthest I've got is fighting pursuer, settle on build I like
>get to that bonfire next to the hag merchant, do a loop and blow up the wall for a shortcut
>walk through, kill the hollows, get invaded
>he's got a purple glowing giant sword and some very heavy sort of rock samurai looking armour on
>uses some sort of big black ball that chases me and I die in one hit
>right next to bonfire so don't lose anything apart from a human effigy

I thought matchmaking was based on SM? I only had 25k at the time so how did he match with me?
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>>124061540
EpicNameBro das1 lore videos are pretty good imo. Not even sure if he did das2 ones.
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>have trouble with 4 Jings
>decide to go to Crystal
>beat Seath first try
>he didn't even touch me

Is it cheating to just bow his pussy until he dies?
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>>124061642
This is PC community to you.
Especially DS2 community.
I never fucking saw so many cheaters in DS1 on pc aside from occasional trainer niggers.
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>>124061440
Oh. Is there no like, mod to fix this shit? I'd really like my weapons not to degrade stupidly fast. Man I feel duped, saw the patch note and thought it was fixed. It was part of the reason I bought it.
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>>124061642
Agape Ring.
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>>124061771

Well there's ds2fix.
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>>124061771
How do people find durability this much of an issue? Never had a problem with it even on vanilla.
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>grinding for items and upgrade material

Literally worst part of the series. It's total bullshit and should not exist.
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>>124061839
>>124061771

Oh, I think I should also mention that capping your framerate to 30 also fixes it.
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>>124061781
25k still wouldn't let you use hexs, you'd need way more SM just to use the spells, let alone equip a greatsword too

I was invaded by a havelshitter at a really low level too, hadn't even beaten pursuer. I saw him invade, noticed I'd have no chance so sprinted and ended up losing him. Summoned 4 shades by the bonfire and he got gangraped by chip damage kek
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>>124061925
Same here, but I guess that some insecure people need to be able to use the same fucking weapon all the time.

>>124062009
Couldn't they be minmaxing? You can use weapons even if you don't have the stats.
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>>124061925
>Get through half a level
>Weapon is one swing from breaking
>Can't consistently play with favourite weapon due to it breaking in a few dozen swings
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>>124062079
This. I shouldn't have to carry some other garbage or duplicate (and you can't always have a duplicate depending on the weapon, and if it uses something like petrified bones?) just because some fucking stupid double degrade mechanic for having proper 60 fps.

I'm not going to upgrade that many different weapons just because of it.

>>124061839
ds2fix fine or is that softbun risky.
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>>124062079
>putting all your eggs in the same basket
>not having a bathtube of weapons ready
Pleb. You say you like weapons, but I've been born in them, raised by them.
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>>124061730

>defeat Seath effortlessly, even though he's supposed to be one of the Gods
>Die 5 times in a row to wheel skeletons

Why aren't people worshipping these guys?
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>>124062360
Listen buddy, I enjoy using a plethora of weapons, but I shouldn't be forced to switch between them just because I'm running at 60fps.
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>b-but fading memory
>b-but you will lose all and it will make no sense
>b-but undead Alzheimer's

>Tanimura: Yes, this game actually went through quite a troubled development process. Due to a number of factors we were actually forced to re-think the entire game midway into development. We really had to go back to the drawing board and think once more about what a Dark Souls game should be. It was at that point that I took on my current role, overseeing the entirety of the game including the art direction. To ensure we created the game both we and the fans wanted it was completely necessary, but it did of course create a problem. We had to decide what to do with the designs and maps that had been created up to that point. Ideally we’d start again from scratch but of course we were under time constraints so instead we had to figure out how to repurpose the designs in our newly reimagined game. This meant everything from deciding new roles for characters to finding ways to slot locations into the world map. This unusual development cycle faced us with an entirely different set of problems and looking back on the project as a whole it was at times, arduous. Although I’m confident that none of this will be felt by the players and I’m completely satisfied with the final product. So while I don’t think we need to dwell on it too much, in the interest of giving a full count of the development process it’s something we can’t avoid touching on.
>Tanimura: However, looking down from the top it was far too wide, that and the fact that there isn’t an adequate transition between locations meant we didn’t really communicate the idea as well as we could have.
http://peterbarnard1984.tumblr.com/post/113163062955/dark-souls-2-design-works-translation

DS2 DEFENSE FORCE BTFO
Fuck Bamco.
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>>124062558
>how dare the game MAKE me try new weapons
>THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
Me and my wagon of weapons are laughing at you poorfag with your shitty sword scavenged on a body.
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>>124062050
>>124062079
Yeah but I never even had backup weapons or anything, I just never went that long without sitting at a bonfire at some point. Honestly confused as to how this happens, unless you are using weapons with super low durability.. But even on my rapier build it's pretty rare.
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>>124062687
At this point, I don't know why I'm bothering to reply.

When I played DaS2, I tried plenty of weapons, probably more on STR weapons than DEX though. Through trying all those different weapons I came to find several I enjoyed, which is how I got a favourite weapon. Regardless of that, even if you enjoy changing your weapon every fourth weapon, you can't deny that there's no reason to have such a terrible durability system.

No wait, of course you can, 'cus you're just being a shit disturber.
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>Painted world of everything hits like a freight train
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>>124063000
>At this point, I don't know why I'm bothering to reply.
Because deep inside you, you want me to understand you.
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>>124062995
at 60 fps on pc?
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How do the NPC offline invasions in ds2 work?
I want to get all the NPC to invade when possible but do any of them require me to use an effigy?
I get invaded sometimes but i don't know who i skipped
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>>124063108
Nah, in DaS2, you get invaded even when you're a hollow.
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>>124061196
>Legitimately good fight
>demon of song
Holy shit anon you have some terrible taste in fights, because that shit is dull and boring and only slightly above Covetus in terms of how braindead easy it is
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>>124063078
I'm pretty bored too. Either are reasonable explanations.
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>>124063251
If you were bored, you wouldn't be here.
Ergo, you're lying, ergo you're just craving for attention.
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>>124063305
Honestly, I'm just here to talk about DaS while I wait to be summoned. Or, was. I'm farming Titanite Chunks/Slabs in New Londo now. Pretty boring stuff not getting summoned for jolly co-operation.
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>>124063000
>you can't deny that there's no reason to have such a terrible durability system.
It's better than DaS1 and BB at the very least, because durability is an actual mechanic you have to worry about instead of the nothing it was in those games, especially in BB where you could repair items at every lantern by just going back to the dream.
It never costs a significant amount of souls to repair shit anyway, you should either have no durability at all or durability you should actually have to worry about, the "well I guess if you do 10 areas you might need to fix your weapon" system adds absolutely nothing to the game

Bracing knucke and repair powder exist for a reason.
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>>124063436
The cooperation system in Souls is pretty good when it works.
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>>124063153
So, as long as i walk into the areas they are supposed to spawn i'll get them all?
Nice.
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>>124063527
Gotta catch'em all, son.
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>every letter of my name is a different color
>forced my sm to 0 and invade in fofg
>dropping souls and items for new characters
>raining 0 damage, instant knockdown magic for a minute then bc out
>a few people add me and ask for help with bosses
>but one person goes full autism and says that im ruining the community and fucked his character
>mfw
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>>124063516
>The cooperation system in Souls is pretty good
It's really not though.
Most enemies don't know how to deal with multiple opponents, the only upgrade they get is extra health and sometimes a little more defense, no new moves no new unique spawns to make it more challening nothing.
Same applies to bosses, most can be utterly trivialized by just having more targets because they don't know how to deal with it.

Don't get me wrong coop and helping people out is great and the games would be worse off without it but it's a very half assed system, there should be more to it other than a semi-cheat that just lets you beat areas you are having trouble with.
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>>124063587
I wanna be the very best
like no other hollow ever was
to parry them is my real test
to get souls is my cause
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>>124063681
That's what makes it good.
Just like the despawning enemies in DaS2, it's a system that rewards patience and allow you to keep progressing even if you lack the skills.
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>>124063516
It's seemingly better now that isn't off GFWL. My roomie can summon me before I even finish the animation for putting down my sign.

Unfortunately, I haven't had a lot of luck with being summoned otherwise. I guess there just aren't that many folks around the low level areas these days. I started playing again a couple days ago, and aside from my roomie, I've been summoned twice.

>>124063681
Maybe DaS3 will have some new mechanics, instead of DaS2's hamfisted; put in more enemies to make encounters more challenging.
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>>124063651
I love doing fun shit like that. Don't sweat it if some people sperg out.
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>demon crows 1 hit kills
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>>124063681
I'd really love if they updated mob or at least boss AI to keep track of multiple players. Maybe make them use sweep and AOE attacks more when surrounded by multiple enemies.
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>>124063927
Should Dark Souls be a undeveloped chick without one leg?
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>>124063797
>instead of DaS2's hamfisted; put in more enemies to make encounters more challenging.
What on earth does that have to do with summons?

Littereally the only case in which it happens ins the bridge where you get 2 invaders if you have 2+ phatoms
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**roll**
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>>124064167
roll
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>>124064167
So you have the roll-to-draw picture too?
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> Red Sign Soapstone

What is this and why am I getting this near the end of the game?
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>>124064037
What I was trying to say, is that it would be nice to see new mechanics to increase the difficulty of multiplayer. DaS2 seemed to have the idea that if you increase the number of enemies, that makes for an enjoyable challenge. It didn't.
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>>124064414
You're like only halfway through if you're the painted world guy.
And it's for invasions but the host can choose to be invaded instead of you showing up forcibly, so for honorable duels.
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>>124064167
Fatrolling.
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>>124064414
Honourable Dickwraith-ery. Let's people summon you as a Red Phantom.
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>>124064540
>Bandit, swords, no magic.
Oh look it's what I always fucking do. Rerolling, fuck.
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Which DS2 DLCs are good? Doing Crown of the Old Iron King right now, and it's kinda shit.
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>>124065054
All of them or you just have bad taste.
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>>124065447
>enemies that instantly jump out of snow and hit you for third of HP
>tower with 2 regenerating cursed armors, ice dudes and fog that curses you constantly
>not bad design
I'm glad you think I got bad taste. Coming from a person with such a shitty taste, it sounds like a compliment.
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>>124064167
rolling for my entire first play through of SOTFS
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>killing Vendrick with Dex build

christ this feels impossible, 4 giant souls and still each hit is barely a 1/50th of his health
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>>124064167
roll
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Anons I bought Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the Sin edition today, it's my first Souls game and I can only describe it with "frustrating". My biggest problem with this game is that I have no idea what I am doing or where I am supposed to go, the game gives you dozens of paths to follow and never tells you where you really are supposed to go. Am I missing something? It's also a pain in the ass to play the game with 50% health when I would actually die with 100%. And I realized that if I am in human form I can summon other players, but that looks pointless as fuck because if you die ONCE then you will already be hallowed, so just who is ever going to call for help?

What do? I'm about to look up a walkthrough
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I'm so excited! I'm on my way to pick up my copy of Demon souls now. Bought a ps3 yesterday, gonna get started soon.
Tell me, is Demon Souls better than Dark Souls, or is it reversed?
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>>124064167
reeeee
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>>124066089
What have you done so far?
Also, yes there are alot of paths to take, but if you just stick to one of them you'll eventually reach its end, and then you start on nother path
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>>124065054
They're all regarded as top-tier in terms of level design, atmosphere, bosses, and they all have really really good items in them. You just don't get it. Summon someone if you can't get through it solo.

>>124066089
Stop! I know the game may be frustrating now but your interest will be killed permanently if you look up a walkthrough. Try to power through it.
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>>124063651
They are right, I'd hate if someone did that to me, I'd probably just sell the items
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>>124066089
It's an open world game, the game doesn't tell you where to go because all areas are possible at any level if you're skilled enough. If you want an "intended" route however look up game progress on a wiki.

Lots of people co-op, it makes the game much easier to the point where you shouldn't really die at all.
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>>124066089
Unless SotFS changed something, there's literally only two ways to go in DaS2.

I'm pretty biased, as I didn't get much enjoyment from DaS2. However, if you're stuck you should look at what you keep dying to and figure out a way around it, or a different way to engage it. If you're stuck on a boss, summoning other players can help you. Summoning in general is pretty handy.

Alternatively, you can try putting down a sign of your own and getting summoned. You have a lot less to worry about when you're a phantom.
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>>124066089
>Am I missing something?
No, the first area is just that frustrating and game indeed doesn't tell you where you're supposed to go until you get in last half of the game. Bear with it, it gets better after Forest of Fallen Giants which is a lowpoint of the game, in my opinion.
And Shrine of Winter pass can go fuck itself.
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>>124065054
CotSK is good, has my favourite boss in the game.

It's pretty hard though, the bonfires are all hidden so it can be very frustrating going through blind.
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>>124066249
>the game doesn't tell you where to go because all areas are possible at any level if you're skilled enough
No, it doesn't tell you anything because it's poorly designed. DS1 had the same open world like structure, yet something always pointed you in right direction, Catacombs aside.
>Hey Undead. You want to lift the curse? I dunno, go meet the king, I guess. Bye now.
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>>124066223
After arriving at that city, I went to Heide's Tower because it looked like the obvious correct route, but after seeing three huge ass knights trying to kill me at the same time (when I could BARELY kill a single one) I realized that I was sort of on the wrong path. So I did some more exploration and found the forest of giants, which seems to be much, much easier. However, I am still "stuck" there and only found the first bonfire after like three hours of exploration, although I did find tons of itens such as a fire sword, a ring of stamina and that item which allows you to be summoned to other games.

I think I'll just let someone summon me and see what path I am supposed to take. Problem is, I did that three times and people usually just die halfway, so I guess I have to be lucky and find someone that is not a shitlord like me
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>>124066421
>ring a bell above and below
>go to sen's
>here is where the final boss will be

the only direction you are ever given in ds1
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>>124066421
Look man I like DaS1 a lot but you're just a hypocrite if you act like the typical progression for both DaS1 and 2 aren't exactly the same.
DaS2 also has more areas to go in the beginning than 1, so you can even argue that there's an even easier path to progression because every NPC in Majula tells you outright that there are 4 areas to get the great souls, and then the castle.
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>>124066089
>First souls game is DaSII
Shit nigga what are you doing

>I can only describe it with "frustrating"
That's normal for a newcomer, that's how I saw it the first time I played a Souls game
When I say get gud, I mean it, because you NEED to get a hold of the game
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>>124066526
Yet how many times were you lost in DS1?
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>>124066554
Not that guy, but please explain how DaS2 has more options in the beginning than 1.
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>>124066089
Yeah I bought it while it was on sale too. Had only played a bit of DaS1 and didn't have a controller for my PC handy so I put it off.

I've gotten past the frustrating part you're at. It's difficult. You have to be really on top of your game. You can die at the same place 5 times in a row before you see what you're supposed to do then get past it, then die at the next part and have to repeat it.

But it's fun, and once you get past that beginning it's easier.
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>>124066554
NPCs? I barely found any useful NPCs. Their mechanic seems retarded as fuck actually, most of them apparently have something to say or items to give me but apparently I have to spam the conversation button several times until they finally spit it out. I found that because I was trying to figure out how to level up until I googled it and the wiki told me I had to spam conversation with that woman until she finally decided to show up her menu.
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>>124066554
>DaS2 also has more areas to go in the beginning than 1

>Catacombs
>Undead Burg
>New Londo


>Forest of Fallen Giants
>Heide's Tower
>Shaded Woods (if you get past the statue, not likely at the beginning)
>that hole (If you have enough souls to buy the cat ring, not likely)
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>>124064167
someone add this to the OP
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>>124066554
>typical progression for both DaS1 and 2 aren't exactly the same.

Progression in DS1
>go ring the bell, it's in the tower above and then below
>go to Anor Londo
>go get souls and bring them back (game shows locations of unlocked areas)
>final area opens

Progression in DS2
>go meet the king
>You killed the giant? Well, get 4 great souls.
>go to the castle now
And that's all. Where is the castle? Where are 4 souls? It doesn't tell you where to go, just go. The game as big as DS2 requires better objectives than "well, go and get a thing, whatever".
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>>124066714
It's not a retarded mechanic, they expect you to exhaust every NPC's dialogue because it's the only rare interaction you get with characters in the game. Why wouldn't you?

It's even more important in the first game as you can't progress questlines without thoroughly talking to them each encounter.
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>>124066875
Protip those are the same vague hinty bullshit that a blind player would have to look up a walkthrough to understand either way, the only reason why DaS2's is bad is because it's DaS2. Hypocrites, the lot of you.
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>>124066770
>Catacombs
>New Londo
>Undead Burg
>Blighttown
>Valley of the Drakes
>Darkroot Basin
>Darkroot Garden
>Undead Parish
>Undead Asylum
>Great Hollow
>Ash Lake

All of these areas can be accessed without defeating a boss.
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>>124066875
it's pretty obvious if you actually expore shaded woods

the shrine door tells you that you require greater souls or something to that effect
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>>124066947
>same vague hinty bullshit that a blind player would have to look up a walkthrough to understand either way
DS1 doesn't even require a guide unless you try to go to Catacombs first and won't be able to figure out what you're doing wrong. It always shows or tells you where to go. You ring the bells, it shows you how gates are open. You get the soul vessel, it shows you which areas are now available. Granted, Abyss was retarded, but at least you know you have to jump down, you don't spend a shitload of time figuring out where is that hole exactly.

Quit shitposting.
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>>124066570
>Shit nigga what are you doing
Am I supposed to start with DS1? Does it make any difference? I sort of get the "story" of the game:

>I'm some Undead guy
>I want souls so I won't go full hallow soul devorer mode
>therefore I kill stuff for their souls (which is what I would be trying to avoid, what the fuck)
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>>124066947
>Got to the castle and meet king Vendrick
>Get to the castle
>See phantom guy
>You want to talk to the king? Go ahead
>Can't see Vendrick
>Get to Nashandra
>Good to see you, meet the King
>Alright but I can't find him
>Turns out he was in ANOTHER map
>mfw
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>>124067126
Okay, so how's that different from DaS2?
You know I'm right, they were both designed the same way.
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>>124067038
>Blighttown
>Valley of the Drakes
>Darkroot Basin
>Darkroot Garden
>Great Hollow
>Ash Lake

If you have a master key, sure. An item added to the game solely to speed up repeated playthroughs.
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>>124067152
DaS1 doesn't reduce your life with each death, stats are more consistent, ADP bullshit doesn't exists.
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>>124067038
Yeah, but you need to start with one item or be thief, which is unlikely for a newbie, so I i didn't mentioned it
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>>124066160
both games are pretty different, but they're both masterpirces. i personally prefer DaS, but demon's was fantastic
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>>124067048
I explored the area, anon. I even seen that shrine and seen the door and its message. But that was 2 days and 2 dozen gameplay hours before I got the items. Sorry, but I don't have eidetic memory to remember all the doors I see during the gameplay. It's not a short game, neither it's small.
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>>124067208
Is there such an item in DaS2? Is there a way to reach more areas in the beginning of the game without defeating a boss?

>>124067289
Even if a new player wouldn't normally take the Master Key, it doesn't change the fact that DaS has more options of where you can go and what you can get right away.
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>>124067189
Yeah, we're done here. You're either retarded, can't read or shitposting. Or all of these at once.
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>>124067408
>Even if a new player wouldn't normally take the Master Key, it doesn't change the fact that DaS has more options of where you can go and what you can get right away.
That's true, but I was talking about new players at the beginning of the game
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>>124067451
>I can't argue
>Better dismiss it as shitposting and be on my way with my dignity intact, wouldn't want to be anonymously embarrassed for being wrong on the internet!
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>>124067472
Fair enough. Most players would go through Burg first, unless they could handle Skeletons. New Londo doesn't have much in it before it's drained, and without the Master Key you can't go anywhere until it is drained.

I can't remember what Forest of the Giants opens up for new areas, but from Burg you can go to the Parish of Lower Burg. (Which I forgot to mention, but I believe you can get there without beating a boss)
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>>124067408
Why is having to defeat a boss the benchmark?

>Taurus Demon, Capra Demon, Gaping Dragon
>Last Giant, Pursuer, Dragonrider

Killing three easy bosses (except the cunt Capra) in either game opens you up to vast majority of it.
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>>124066875
I've been playing DaS2 as my first Souls game and uh, it's not that difficult. Try directions until you find one that lets you advanced and doesn't block your shit in.

It's a video game. You're supposed to explore and learn. Or open the wiki if you're a basic bitch.
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>>124067235
>DaS1 doesn't reduce your life with each death
That's a bad thing
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>>124067580
>Why is having to defeat a boss the benchmark?
Interconnected maps, dork
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>>124067697
Not that guy, I thought it was a shitty mechanic they tacked on to make it more difficult teebeeh.

Dark Souls is supposed to be about learning from your mistakes with trial and error, rewarding repeated failing not punishing it.
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>>124067697
How so
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>>124065636
>snow
>brume tower
No m8 you are just blind
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>>124067797
I didn't mind hollowing because it encouraged spending more time in human form, which would be healthy for the game overall if the PvP wasn't fucked in other ways. You've got the Ring of Binding if you're really scared of invasions anyway.
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>>124067580
Most areas are gated behind a boss encounter. From what I know, there's very little way to work around bosses in DaS2, limiting what items you can get, when you can get them, and what areas you're allowed to travel to.

In essence, the post referred to how many options you had when you first started the game. DaS has more. Albeit, you would need a bit of knowledge to make it to most areas right away.

On a side note, you can't fight Gaping Dragon without beating the Capra Demon. Keloggs is the boss for Blighttown.
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>>124067865
Suppose, never really considered that. Most people I know were perfectly happy using the RoB though so the only people running around human were looking for summons or PvPing anyway.

I think hollowing would have made a better NG+ or champions covenant feature.
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>pirate dark souls 2 because i'm poor
>have a huge blast, kinda screwed up ds1 and i looked at some walktrough so i go in blind
>people saying DLC is the best part no questions asked
>can't get it to work
I swear i'll buy it when i can, just not right now
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>>124067865
Personally, I didn't enjoy hollowing. It wasn't much of a bother to me, I very rarely lost a large portion of my health from repeated deaths. The problem was though, the limited ways to reverse hollow. Getting summoned was great, but with SM if I wanted to be meticulous in searching an area and participating in jolly co-operation then I quickly found myself being forced into a new area to find people to summon me. I'm also not sure if there was a way to buy humanity or farm it reliably.

So it was less of an immediate issue, but more of a lingering, "what if I run out" sort of nuisance.

Plus it's very punishing for new players.
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>>124068279
Make sure you buy Scholar of the First Sin, not the original DS2.
I think it's on sale right now actually.
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>>124068335
>I'm also not sure if there was a way to buy humanity or farm it reliably

Shrine of Amana for farming, plus there was an NPC there that could turn you human if you'd completely run out. Pretty late game area though.

Regardless I never came close to running out. Drangleic castle with 4 bosses and a wide SM range is an easy place to coop.
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>>124068335
desu senpai I'm that new player you guys have been referring to and I don't mind hollowing at all. I kept fucking dying on the way to pursuer yesterday and today kept dying to him until I figured out how to get his ass with the ballista. whole time I was at 50% hp. I had a similar hard time against last giant but it didn't take me quite as long.

you die, you get punished, you have to practice, practicing gives you souls, souls give you effigies, effigies give you your HP back, you still die in 1-3 hits so you practice more, then you beat the boss or the section and feel better about yourself. It's an ok mechanic.
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>>124068394
Thing is i have a toaster, i don't think i can run it, although i really love new NPCs/offline summons.
Even to run the normal version at a stable 30 i have to go 720p.
Fullscreen i get sub20 even at the starting area.
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>>124068541
Oh yeah, you can't even run it if your operating system isn't 64-bit.
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>>124068509
>racticing gives you souls, souls give you effigies
That makes sense, but suddenly I remember SM exists
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>>124068509
>I figured out how to get his ass with the ballista
My brethren.
Took me a lot of time too, not because it was difficult to parry but i couldn't get the spot right so i missed it.
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>>124068335
Yes, well that's what I meant when I was referring to PvP's other issues. SM is awful for obvious reasons, but those aren't issues with the hollowing system itself. Dark Effigy's should also have been more plentiful while we're at it.

I think the system needs work but the whole losing health aspect isn't inherently bad is my point.
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>>124068509
pursuer can be a bitch

I never beat the encounter after smelter demon
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>>124068509
I used to be in the exact same boat as you. DaS2 was my first souls game. First time through, I was so fucking frustrated. Didn't beat the Pursuer until I progressed enough to beat the Lost Sinner and came back to him overleveled. I don't know what happened but as the DLCs then came out something just clicked in me and I got gud. Now I can easily solo the double pursuer fight in the castle on NG+ no problem.
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>>124068561
64 bit OS but 610M and 2.3ghz i7.
Technically dx11 is supported but i would prefer not to risk it when canirunit says to go fuck myself
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>>124068509
The problem is that the result would be a bit quicker, I believe, in DaS. Where you'd still learn from your mistakes, but wouldn't incur a penalty.

Having your full health bar gives you a bit more room for error.

Side note, I kicked Pursuer's ass without the Ballista. Only noticed after the fight.

Regarding Souls though, my main issue with SM was that it was possible to lose souls, permanently. Yet you'd still increase in SM. It wasn't much of an issue personally, but I enjoy jolly co-operation and helping newer folk, so being forced out of areas due to SM was irritating.

>>124068634
It's not bad per se, but I feel a lot of DaS2's new mechanics were poorly implemented.
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>>124068335
Getting summoned as a shade turns you human
Getting summoned as a phantom turns you human
The summon ranges for shades are fucking HUGE so not even an issue
There are 2 different rings that prevent hollowing on death
There is 1 ring that caps your health reduction to 80% max health
The crowns provide immunity to hollowing but that doesn't really count
There is an NPC in the game that makes you human if you have ran out of effigies
There are quite a few on sale by quite a few NPCs
Plenty of enemies drop effigies, some as very common drops
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>>124068670
>>124068602
I kept baiting left and then running to the closest ballista on the left side. I don't know what it was but only 1/10 times I'd get him with it and I could never fire the second shot in time. Then I came back the next day and tried rolling right and going for the further one. Because I'm running farther, I guess it takes longer for him to walk close enough to trigger his charge mechanic, which gave me enough time to activate the ballista. Suddenly victory achieved. I was in disbelief that I tried at least 8 or 9 times to beat him and failed then changed one thing and beat him easily.

>>124068594
>>124068767
I don't know what SM is but to me it really doesn't seem like a bad game mechanic. Most enemies have aspects of the boss they are before (last giant has those turtleback dudes with huge maces that fall forward and swing slowly at you just like last giant, pursuer has a lot of slashing and stabbing guys that get you used to his three attack rhythm) .

If I fuck up, it makes me waste time practicing until I can prove I'm not a fuck up and I can beat the boss. Having the extra health is just a nice cushion and effigies aren't super rare, just costlier than you'd wish they were.
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>>124068767
You know about the Agape Ring added in SotFS right? I've got a few different characters set up for various bottlenecks in the game. Takes some set up time but it's worth it for easy jolly co-op.
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>>124068767
>but I enjoy jolly co-operation and helping newer folk, so being forced out of areas due to SM was irritating.
Thats why the Agape ring exists anon
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>>124068767
>Regarding Souls though, my main issue with SM was that it was possible to lose souls, permanently. Yet you'd still increase in SM. It wasn't much of an issue personally, but I enjoy jolly co-operation and helping newer folk, so being forced out of areas due to SM was irritating.
It's just shit all around. They tried so hard to prevent twinking, which was already mostly a non-issue that they completely forgot to look at any other ramifications such a system might have meant. Losing souls permanently but still increasing SM is just awful design no matter how you look at it. SM is shit for both invading and connecting because you can't track it at all without using external programs and you have no frame of reference for who you can and can't connect to. Then you had all kinds of other issues, like if you managed to kill a hacker with an infinite amount of souls you gathered too many from the victory yourself and fucked over your save's potential to connect to anyone at a similar level forever.
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>>124041378
I used the axe. The one handed axe has a ridiculous amount of poise break for such a low stat requirement weapon.
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>>124068891
Half those things aren't things new players can know about, so i was either st¡uck buying limited Effigies or farming monsters until they dissapeared
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>>124068993
>kill a hacker with an infinite amount of souls you gathered too many from the victory yourself and fucked over your save's potential to connect to anyone at a similar level forever.
Spout more fucking nonsense would you I don't think we have heard enough straight up lies about DS2 yet
Rewards for killing invaders and hosts are purely based on their SL, you get the same amount for killing SL 50 invader with 300k souls as you do for killing one with 0 souls
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>>124068916
I remember summoning so I could use the ballista, ended up nailing both him and the boss on the final hit.

Felt so bad I tried to add the guy on Steam and apologise.
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>>124068916
Soul Memory isn't too important for a first playthrough or anyone who doesn't care that much about PvP, sure, but it's important to be able to manage for long-term enjoyment of the game imo. The Agape Ring is a fucking godsend, as an avid PvPer.
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>>124068916
>Having the extra health is just a nice cushion
>extra
Is not extra if it was taken away from you
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>>124068963
>>124068976
I don't own SotFS. I did not enjoy DaS2, and will pay money to From Software so they can "fix" only some of the problems DaS2 suffers from.

>>124068916
I'm sure it's been said by now, but SM is Soul Memory.
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>>124069109
>farming monsters until they dissapeared
Covenant of champions
Regardless you are missing the point, there is very much a tangible benefit to being human in DS2 as opposed to 1, and human effigies are a somewhat limited resource, I fail to see the issue here.
There are plenty of infinite ways to become human agape ring + summon sings if you are too afraid of inflating your SM or some shit but even then it won't matter because summon ranges for signs are really large, and plenty of items to prevent hollowing in the first place.
Human effigies and being human is a benefit to the player, so tying the easiest way to become human in with either helping someone or using a limited resource is perfectly fine. Not everything should give you infinite leeway
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>>124068767
>so being forced out of areas due to SM was irritating
That was an issue of separating the NG+ playerbase.
Coop happens at any SM tier.
Now without agape ring at worst you just get summoned by higher level/tier players and are not sufficiently equipped despite having amassed the souls to be so.
SM is fantastic for high level NG+ coop as the player pool is obviously huge. It also keeps the game from dying. Just look at what invasion restrictions have done to the other gamers.
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>>124069267
>I fail to see the issue here.
The issue is that is fucking stupid, specially for new players

>Covenant of champions
see
>aren't things new players can know about
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>>124060293
Do like everyone else and master dodging the fucker. The fume knight has a 93% failure rate for a reason and that reason is that you have to learn to dodge almost everything.
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>>124068993
>twinking, which was already mostly a non-issue
opinion discarded
fucking dastards
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>>124069406
You know that there's no more NG and NG+ connection barrier anymore right? Now it's actually purely based on SM.
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>>124069249
Fair enough, I was late to the Souls series so "lucky" enough to play through the revamped version of 2.

Fucking sucks how From/Bandai handled it and the fact there are a thousand odd players cut off from what has become the main game.
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Who else excited for DaSIII bosses?
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>>124069576
>tfw watching over my ds3 footage
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>>124069576
>dat butt
>dem fluid movements
Awww yi-
>but she's frigid
Fuck you FROM.
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>>124069418
Now you are just being dumb, there are plenty of ways to turn human and farm infnite human effigies its not an issue, you could justify as anything being bad because
"A blind deaf cripple with no arms legs or senses of any kind ... I mean a new player couldn't do it!"
There is a benefit to staying human, if you are afraid of running out of effigies Ring of Binding exists at the cost of a ring slot and you can get it after killing 1 enemy.
You can farm effigies from enemies you can buy them from merchants you become human by being summoned, there are plenty of ways to turn human, one just happens to be a consumable item.
DS1 has made you too soft
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>>124069524
I was pretty excited when it was announced, or when I learned of it. Seems I last played in January. I read about the Agape ring and some other things that sounded amazing, but me and my roommate got tired of all DaS2's faults before it came out.

Between that time and now I've restarted DaS a few times and dumped maybe another 30-40 hours into it. My total playtime is something like 180-200 hours. DaS2 only lasted 58.

More on point though, I probably would have given it another chance if the fixes didn't cost me $35. Just another bad decision regarding DaS2 though.
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>>124065636
Learn to enjoy the challenge a little. Most places in the DLC's requires you to look around more changing your approach. (However, bring weapons that stagger, by god, stagger them you must.)
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>>124069776
$35? It's discounted for original owners of DS2, even moreso if you have the DLCs.
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>>124068916
>he ran for the ballista
I parried him, it's not too bad, half of the time i could do it.
Just had to find the spot.
Also you don't need a second shot, the ballista fire three 300+ damage shots, after one round of that shit he will have like 150 hp left.
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Is it possible to cast string magic shield on the shield crossbow?
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>>124069846
Pretty sure you can.
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>>124069576
i'd journey into her abyss
if you catch my darkdrift
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>>124069838
Aye, but the Canadian dollar is in the shitter, and it's not likely to improve anytime soon.
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>>124069742
>New players can do it, you're just shit
>farm infnite human effigies
If you know about CoC

>Ring of Binding exists
If you know where it is and what it does, not to mention is not in a map you aren't supposed to go right off the bat
>and you can get it after killing 1 enemy.
Sure, the rest of the area isn't an issue
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4 Jings still giving me a TON of trouble. No clue what to do. They hit really hard and kill me in 2 hits.

I tried using some heavier armor which gave me medium rolling, but I'm too slow to dodge their attacks.

Hugging him and attacking like mad reduces the damage and kinda works.

Is there any tips for these guys?

I have the "Ring of Favor and Protection" so I'm stuck using that as I can't take that off. It's annoying that "Covenant Of Artorias" is a ring you have to wear.
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>DS2 could've been easily the best Souls game to date
>Bamco and Tanimura still managed to ruin it
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>>124070353
>Hugging him and attacking like mad reduces the damage and kinda works.
This. Put Havel on, chug and swing until they die.
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>>124070353
>Medium rolling
Doing it all wrong, slap Havel's on and go about your business.
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>>124070410
Now that we know more of the story, you can stop blaming Tanimura. He did the best salvage job he could. The real fault lies with Shibuya.
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>>124070353
Put the thickest armor you have tot ank the damage or remove your armor entirely to dodge like a pro
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>>124070641
>He did the best salvage job he could.

>Although I’m confident that none of this will be felt by the players and I’m completely satisfied with the final product.
>no full orbs
>dex builds are useless in PvE
>bosses
>soundtrack
>ogres
>huge hitboxes on hex magic, with projectiles damaging you when you stand behind caster
>despawning enemies
lol no

Bamco sure done fucked up, but Tanimura is hardly free of blame. The core of the game itself is flawed.
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>>124070785
>bosses
What about them?
I found them quite fun and in some cases unique, like the chariot
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Hey I am this anon:
>>124066089

Just defeated the last giant from the forest of giants, game is finally starting to pick up for me

>the soldiers with spears and shields are more difficult than the boss
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When is from gonna patch a full eye orb into Das2
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>>124070870
They're shit.
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> Siegmeyer of Catarina
>final event at Izalith
>I snipe them from above and kill them in 3 hits
>hear "Heavens, me… My dear little Lin…"

HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO DIE THEY ALL DIED IN LIKE 15 SECONDS HOW DO YOU SUCK THIS BADLY!?

I take it there's no way to redo this right? Can you still pass the event by killing them yourself? I'll do that next time.

This god damn idiot knight I have to baby sit.
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>>124070870
>Enter room
>Rats start flooding the room
>This is somehow a boss
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>>124071148
You fucked up, you should kill all but one of them and leave the other one half dead
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>>124070995
>Just defeated the last giant from the forest of giants
You're in for a ride.
I'm playing for the first time too, about 1/3-1/2 into the game.
Remember that you can use your camera, don't be afraid to peek corners by turning it sideways.
ALWAYS
ALWAYS explore everything you can, i was completely and utterly disappointed by one area called lost bastille until i found how big it was by coming to it by a different place.
Even i that i played dark souls 1 can't remember all the loose ends and paths i can go because there was a door i can now open for example.
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>>124071275

I figured if I started attacking them it would trigger the event. I was trying to employ "video game logic". But it turns out he was asleep and I checked and it doesn't seem to trigger anything.
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>>124071167
Some of them admittedly are better off treated as a miniboss or an encounter. Equally some of them are the best in the Souls series though.

>Chariot
>Looking Glass Knight
>Sinh
>Aldia
>Sir Alonne
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>>124071148
If you kill them yourself it gives you an item and goes to his marry way.
If he kills the LAST of them and has less than 50% hp he kills himself and drop an item
If he has more than 50% hp(you can kill 2 of them yourself and let his kill the third) the quest goes on and you get a powerful upgrade item
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So, how do I build my character? I plan to bump end and vig to 20 then start investing on dex, would that work?
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>>124071340
Either way you're done for
Good luck next time
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>>124071521

Do it in this order:

>5-10 in END
>split next 10 on vig and dex
>put the rest in dex
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>>124071429
>Chariot
>good
Is this a meme?
>run around
>hide in gateways
>kill skeletons and necros on the way
>pull the lever
>kill easy to read horse
>YOU DEFEATED
>WOOOW, BEST BOSS IN THE SERIES

All puzzle bosses are trash. Dragon God is still the best out them because he's actually intimidating and kills you in one shot.
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so how come there's still no patch that removes the worst and everyone's most hated "boss" from DaS?
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>>124071521
if you're planning to use int/faith try and invest in those stats early. it's much more grueling trying to level enough to aquire and be able to use spells later game than if you just prepped for it when leveling was much faster.

if not just get base stats for your preferred weapon and pump up vig/end. don't completely ignore adaptability, quicker estus and i-frames for rolling is extremely useful late game.
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>>124071624
I didn't say best boss in the series. It's an interesting fight though, kinda like Gwyndolin.
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none of my characters have ever had more than 15 adp, or 92 agility
is this bad? almost all of my rolls outside of pvp are fine, and the ones in pvp are dependable enough as far as ds2 goes
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>>124071870
>quicker estus
Really?
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>>124072134

I had 20 and got through all PvE just fine. Anything around 30 seems to dominate in PvP simply because it hard counters a lot of weapons
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what's up with these guys? how can they "speed waddle" so fast?
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>>124072010
>Equally some of them are the best in the Souls series though.
>Chariot
You said it's one of the best, which it's not. Not by a long shot.
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>>124072407
Fine, memorable then. There are a lot more easier and boring fights than Chariot.
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>>124072407
Not that anon but you can't deny it's one of the more unique ones.
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>>124072352
B-team animations. Same with katana knights in Iron Keep.
Also, I really don't get the iron keep
>it sunk because iron is heavier than stone
>not because it's fucking iron and there's lava beneath
>>124072453
Fair enough.
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>>124064167
Rollus Maximus
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>>124072660
>deprived halberd miraclemancer
Hope you have fun getting dem souls
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Anyone got an extra 10 Demon Titanite on PC? Haven't reached Izalith yet for the respawning dingleberry and I've already used it on the DSS, want to use it on the Demon Spear next.
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>>124072521
I thought it sank because they built it over demon stomping grounds. Does that mean Iron Keep was built over lost Izalith?
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>>124031068

It's still an awesome UGS though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkZxK0dY_2Y
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what would be a good secondary weapon if im using the flamberge as my main? 20str/40dex
i was thinking syan's halberd or a curved sword
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>>124073896

bandit's knife
pharis black bow
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>bed of chaos

So far just an annoying chore.
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>>124075253
So have you killed it yet?
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>>124075443

Died 3 times falling into holes.

Died 5 times approaching the center.
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>>124075574
Just be careful. It's kind of an RNG crapshoot if the bed fucks you over while you're jumping for the center branch though.
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>>124075253
>run in naked
>go left
>dragon roar
>quit
>go right
>avoid holes
>roar
>quit
>go straight a bit to the right
>bait sweep
>swooce right in
>dragon roar
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>>124075253
2 hand a greatshield, run to each side and bash in the fucking bug, then die in the middle anyway.

That's how I usually do it anyway.
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I'm doing a hammer run in DaS, just for fun
What hammer should I use? Warpick?
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>>124075806
Demon's Great Hammer.
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>>124075902
That's a Great Hammer
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Going to start up DS2 and try Scholar for the first time since the last DLC
Will I get disappointed?
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>>124075253
Disable frame rate fix if you're playing PC and using dsfix (backspace)

Wait or tank her two hand sweeps, I found that's the best window to make the jump.
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>>124075773
>>124075679
>>124075652

>make the jump, then as I'm running up get knocked down the hole
>second time get to the core
>look at the bug on fire because it's neat
>die
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How do people not play with at least a short bow? Even if you don't go down the bow path, it's nice to draw out enemies and barely weighs anything.
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>>124076303
>why do people roleplay
Gee, I dunno, anon, to have fun? I bet you're one of those sad fucks who use pyromancy in DS1 without starting as Pyro or being in Chaos Covenant.
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>>124076303
If bows work anything like in the DS3 trailer I'll definitely go into dex just for a simple bow.
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Which aoe pyro spell is good for pvp? I didnt want to bother with outcry since its 1 cast for two slots.
DS2
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>>124064167
Press B to roll
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>>124076190
>make the jump, then as I'm running up get knocked down the hole
bait the sweep from inside the hole
>stay perfectly stiff while the boss is attacking me
>wooooow how did i die
Also how low is your vit that a single hit from the firestorm kills you?
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>>124076743

Beat him. Just annoying not hard.

>Also how low is your vit that a single hit from the firestorm kills you?

18
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>>124077167
Were you wearing that gold hemmed thing you get from ceaseless+sunlight maggot?
They give one of the highest fire defenses for their weight
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>>124075806
doing ymir run right now, smashing assholes with the great club is fun. thinking of a twop>wog combo to simulate the ult, probably going to use iron flesh as well, though im used to mobility.
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haven't played dark souls in ages

is manus the pygmy
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>>124077398

Yes, Anon. He is.
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>>124075806
The only fun warpick in series is in BB.
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>>124077398
yes
no
maybe
could be one of the first creations of the pygmy, cant tell for sure
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>>124077460
why?
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>>124076139
DLC's are pretty great, especially the Ivory and Old Iron ones.
Some people complain about optional challenge bossfights and occasional rehashes, but in the grand scheme of things they introduced a lot more new things.
This guy and Alonne have become one of my favourite bosses in the series.
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I opened the chest that gives Silver Serpent Ring and Antiquated Key at Lost Bastille. It also showed a third item but I didn't have time to read because mr pursuer wanted some fun with me. The wiki only talks about two items though. Was I just imagining things?
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>>124076139
I tried to get back into it after bloodborne and dropped like a hot shit in two hours.
It's just insufferable.
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>>124077804
Maybe there was loot from a corpse and you picked that up?
Worst case scenario go trough your inventory and check for new items.
Or look for a 100% lost bastille walkthrough and skip to the point with that chest
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>>124077492

Just because the DLC is basically the fourth Lord Soul path.
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>>124069576
I'm just excited for a dark souls that'll have pvp without soul memory
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>>124078016
Might have been a branch? I don't remember getting one of those before. I've only been to Cardinal Tower and Lost Bastille so far.
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>>124078357
>pvp
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>>124078590
>he sucks at dark souls

it's k man
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What's SotFS meta? 150?
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>It dropped by the Taurus Demon boss
You know I might actually use it
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>>124078390
yup.
You can unpetrify one of those statues to access stuff.
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>>124078357
I like PvP but it's always the last thing I'm excited about in a new Souls game.
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>>124078652
>he thinks DS pvp is deep enough to require any skill
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>>124079281
>he's bad at something that takes no skill
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Jesus, Firelink is so dead. People come but they don't stay. It's not a cozy little home like the Nexus was. Everyone dies, goes hollow, mad or is at risk of it.
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>>124077690
>>124077972
I stopped playing DS2 after the Ivory DLC last year and I want to try Scholar for the changes but I feel like I'm going to end up disappointed especially after BB DLC.
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>>124079342
>still grasping at straws
>still can't realize pvp is the least important part of the Souls series
>still has problems accepting the basic truth that even some shitty arcade beat-em-up has more depth than Souls pvp
Sad.
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>>124078679
Whatever SM you have at SL200
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>>124079616
>it's shit because i'm shit at it

it's like you're really my little brother
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>>124078810
The branch wasn't there when I first played this game. Also I noticed they made Dull Ember accessible almost right from the start for reasons unknown. Some weird changes here.
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>>124079596
Of course you will.
Nothing in series can even be remotely compared to the old hunters.
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>>124079596
It literally doesn't get worse than fishing hamlet in the sky.
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>>124079687
Ah, poor thing keeps doing it. Don't worry, one day you'll play some real online game and see what actual PvP is.
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>>124079616
Why do you care so much about something you dont even fucking do
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>>124079868
>plays real pvp
>but is no good at pvp that takes no skill
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>>124079868
What do you play? TF2, LoL? Smash bros?
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>>124070097
>If you know where it is and what it does
It literally says what it does in the description nor is it in any way shape or form hidden away from the player.

goddamn you dumb retard as I said you can't just excuse away absolutely everything with "Well a blind deaf retard wouldn't know about it so its not fair"
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>>124079769
Yeah but hamlet is foreshadowed and explained
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>>124079926
If no one will call stupid people stupid, they'll live their whole life not realizing what they are. Same goes for people with shit taste. Someone gotta open their eyes.
>>124079930
Shhh. It's gonna be okay.
>>124079956
>that desperate straw grasping
Oh boy, here we go, another Souls pvp babby.
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>>124079769
>>124080038
in fact you can actually see hunters nightmare when you look down
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>>124079769
Hamlet is a crucial part of the lore and is situated in nightmare realm where any kind of mindfuckery is possible.
At one point where you explore hunter's nightmare a slug girl comes crashing down, obviously falling from Hamlet.
You can also see the nightmare yharnam below water in hamlet itself.
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>>124080116
>>124079342
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>>124080116
Are you gonna back up your claims or just gonna post smug comments?
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>>124080209
And you can see bastille from warf, heides tower from majula and the end of forest of the fallen giants from majula and drangleic from almost everywhere
Time and space is convoluted after all so its all ok!
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>>124080197
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>>124080352
Call me when you can see harvest valley from iron keep lmao.
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>>124080315
>back up your claims
Which claims, that pvp in souls games is extremely basic and is just there to provide some fun rather than being taken seriously. That's not a common knowledge for you?
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>>124080501
Right when you show me where we see Ash Lake from Bed of Chaos.

I'm not even defending DS2, just how dumb "ITS ALL JUST A DREAM/TIME AND SPACE IS CONVOLUTED" is and it can be used to handwave literally everything.
DS2 world doesn't make sense
BB world doesn't make sense
Parts of the DS1 world don't make sense
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>>124080361
Micolash even had lines of dialogue in the base game indicating this.
>The grand lake of mud now hidden from sight!
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>>124080352
See >>124062682
You just got told by the director of the game, go get some morphine for your ass.
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>>124080756
>there's ships you can see way below nightmare frontier, the same ships you can see from the coast in hamlet which means Frontier is somewhere above the hamlet
>there's squid enemies in frontier as well, only the entire area has dried up apparently, most likely being a part of the great ocean at some point
>the sea IS the cosmos scholars been looking for, sky and the cosmos are one and there's a giant, endless ocean in the sky from which everything begins and where everything ends
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>>124080684
There's literally no justification for any misplaced DS2 shit aside from one phrase from the first DS.
Meanwhile BB's entire lore is built around lovecraftian nightmares, and if you know at least jack shit about them you seriously won't even try to argue about a fishing village in a sky.
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>>124080756
And every NPC in DaS2 asks how the fuck they got there, implying a loss of memory.
Your point?
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>>124080361
DaS2 had missing skyboxes too m8.
Stop loring up oversight just because it's miyazaki
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>>124081002
>>124081145
Anons what is wrong with you
>time and space is convoluted
>its all a dream
Are both the same excuses, they can be used to handwave everything, instead of getting so butthurt over it and trying to somehow make them seem out to be different just accept it and move on.
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>>124081161
>implying a loss of memory
How does that explain anything?
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>>124081358
How does a dream explain anything?
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>>124080684
>DS2 world doesn't make sense
Because they had to rebuild the world half-way through and place areas that were supposed to appear elsewhere somewhere else. Iron Keep was originally supposed to be below Forest of Fallen Giants, salamander pits were the transition area.
>BB world doesn't make sense
Because it's a dream and every change makes sense lore-wise.
>Parts of the DS1 world don't make sense
Only Ashlake. And even then, I don't see how you could make Great Hollow bearable if it was 10 times bigger.

As you see, there's a big difference between how different games "make no sense" in a different way.
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>>124081329
>gets a quote from a game director stating that ds2 development cycle was a clusterfuck
>still tries to argue disregarding anything other people as trying to say
This is why nobody takes you DS2 fags seriously.
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>>124081329
>its all a dream
Oh boy, this again
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>>124081464
Anon how many times do I have to say I don't even care about DS2.
I just find it hilarious how you are so eager to say that
>its a dream
>time and space don't make sense
as being totally different things.

Neither makes sense, both are somewhat justified by the lore, that is all there is to it.
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Tomb of the giants is really annoying.
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>>124081329
>time and space is convoluted
>game director literally says they were forced to redesing the game progression due to Bamco
Anon, are you slow?
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>>124081573
"The flow of time itself is convoluted" is a phrase from the first DS that was only used by Solaire to explain how summoning works and wasn't even used in a sequel, retard.
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>>124081573
What part of DS2 foreshadows, predicts, or shows even a bit of explanation or visual representation as to why there is a lava area at the top of a windmill
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>>124081678
So?
They were forced to design around it then justified the end result with lore.

Are you fucking retarded?
>>124081736
>how summoning works
Nope, also used as blanked excuse for why solair is in your world in the first place and why people like lautrec can hurt NPCs in your world
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>>124081573
>Neither makes sense

The fact that geometry is not realistic in a what is explicitly a dream makes perfect sense. Have you never even had a dream?
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>>124081443
>Because they had to rebuild the world
You can bet your ass that any game in the series underwent changes.
What matters is how the end result is presented to you.
BB covers up mistakes with its just a dream
DaS2 handwaves with memories.
DaS1 has time is convoluted.
Only DeS seems to have some form of dignity.
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>>124081808
>They were forced to design around it then justified the end result with lore.
Jesus, are you actually retarded? Go read the design doc, Tanimura himself said they fucked up with Iron Keep.
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>>124081668

>skeleton beasts everywhere

I hate this place. And I'm doing it last, so I'm high level and they're still mother fuckers.
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>>124081915
>Tanimura himself said they fucked up with Iron Keep.
Again are you retarded?

Refer to>>124081891
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>>124081891
>BB covers up mistakes with its just a dream
>mistakes

Are you serious?
You're calling the hamlet's placement a mistake?
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>>124082031
BB is a mistake.
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>>124081891
>BB covers up mistakes
There's no mistakes.
It was a part of the lore from the very beginning, long before DLC even hit.
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>>124081972
Refer to >>124081915
Taninura know they fucked up. There's no DEEP LORE justification to areas being switch around, you keep sucking shit from your ass and present it as truth, when it's confirmed that's not the case and there's written proof of that.
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I just finished DS for the first time with the black knight sword. Should I do ng+ like this or use something else?
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>>124082087
Anon you are acting like a child
Everything can be excused with "time is convoluted/its just a dream"
Is DS2 way worse at this than BB? Sure both are miles behind DS1, doesn't somehow make it a not valid lore reason.

Stop being such a retard and accept that its justified ingame.
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>>124081786
Watch the intro moron.
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>>124082180
Black Knight weapons have the best movesets in the game, in my opinion.
Shame they suck in DS2
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>>124081891
>DaS1 has time is convoluted.

When the fuck is this used to explain a discrepancy in the map?

>Only DeS seems to have some form of dignity.
>This is the Nexus as seen from outside
>Under the Nexus is a wide open beach
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>>124082268
I don't see my chracter falling through the dimensional vortex to reach iron keep.
I don't hear the phrase about the time being convoluted even once in ds2.
Keep is also not a memory.
Your pathetic attempts to justify this clusterfuck of a game are amusing.
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>>124082230
Okay, you are retarded, congrats. Keep parroting the exact same phrases over and over again, doesn't change the fact that there is written proof to the contrary :^)
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>>124082230
>time is convoluted
You keep saying this when it is entirely unimportant to the conversation.

>"The flow of time itself is convoluted, with heroes centuries old phasing in and out."

That has fucking nothing to do with the map.
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>>124069576
Oh look, a dudette in armor, how original...
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>>124082447
>:^)
I think we all know who's retarded here.

Hints, it's (You).
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>>124082393
>falling through the dimensional vortex to reach iron keep
You do though
The elevator, its just very well disguised and you just forget about it because you are going hollow

>>124082447
Don't worry anon lore can't be used to explain the world, you can only look at design documents!

People who get really upset over DS2 always end up making up some batshit insane excuses and headcanon for DS1 by saying dumb things and refusing to back down on them.
>we are all living on the side of a tree
>light is life
>fire good dark bad is the moral of DS1
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>>124082087
Tanimura said he was completely satisfied with the final product, meaning they came up with something that Miyazaki, the fucking SUPERVISOR was so ok with, that he ended up using a similar area transition and explanation in BB.
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>>124071624
>Dragon God anywhere near good

Opinion invalidated.
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>>124082626
Great so lets agree that DS1 world is retarded an nonsense.
Bed of Chaos is somehow below Ash Lake without ever intercepting it
The sun can somehow stop existing in 1 city but still be around everywhere else
Anor Londo does not have streets and only rooftops and is sitting on top of pure blackness
Time changes by walking through a door and back again
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>>124082856
That's a good joke.
>Tanimura said he was completely satisfied with the final product
And this is exactly why people shit on B-team. Because instead of saying "we might have gone too far with few ogres" he said "game's good, guys, ADP is the best big thing".
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Taking a little break from Bloodborne with Dark Souls 2.

I want new weapons for my guy, currently rolling with just the Drakewing UGS.

Fume Knight UGS and Ivory King UGS seem cool. And I see people flipping around thanks to the left hand Bone Fist, think I'll get that too. Majestic Greatsword seems neat as well.

Current stats.

VGR36
END20
VIT22
ATN5
STR40
DEX40
ADP20
INT16
FTH10
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>>124083069
>we might have gone too far with few ogres
Huh?
Is "too many ogres" the new "everyone is a guy in armor" meme? You can beat the game without ever having to fight one and as a enemy they are really rare, you only encounter more than a single one once during the entire game and that can be avoided AND half them don't respawn
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>>124083241
DS2 babies will come up with any excuse no matter how stupid it is, I swear. You guys are better at mental gymnastics than Vaati.
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>>124083241
>Shitty design is okay if it's optional!
Here's a reply, enjoy it.
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>>124083387
I'm legitimately curios if this is a new meme or something, I mean it HAS been quite a while since we got a new factually false thing to complain about.
Did vaaty make a new video or did your favorite streamer whine on a podcast or something? What prompted this shit?
>>
Why can't I invade in areas where I've beaten the boss? As far as I remember beating the area boss only meant you couldn't be invaded before.

Please tell me I'm just missing something.
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>>124083787
>Why can't I invade in areas where I've beaten the boss?
Because DS1 is perfect shut the fuck up
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>ash lake
>great hollow

Why are these areas in the game? They add nothing. There's no point going there.
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>>124083387
>You guys are better at mental gymnastics than Vaati
At least we'll survive in 1984.
You won't.
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>>124083867
Dragon Covenant.
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>>124083834
I'm actually just an idiot who forgot to mention I'm talking about DS2.
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Looks like biggest DS2 babby finally woke up to defend his first Souls game.
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>>124083834
>>124083935
lol
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>>124083935
There was an update that makes it so your character gets the prevent invasion buff when you travel to an area where you've beaten the boss.

Gotta sit at the bonfire and turn it off.
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>>124083935
"nullify human effigy effect" at a bonfire.
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>>124084009
>>124084028
So I was missing something, good. Cheers.
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>>124083923

That's pretty minor.

It feels like these areas are half-done, and something much more interesting was meant to be added. Maybe another lord holding a lord soul.
>>
Go back to listening to "everyone is a dude in armor );" on a loop shitface, its clear that you only want a hubox that agrees with whatever nonsese you spout
I heard reddit is good for that
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>>124084171
It wasn't, Artorias content was supposed to be in main game.
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>Miyazaki will never go back and remix DS2, or expand upon Demon souls, or DS1
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>>124084340
>or expand upon DS1
DS3 you retarded frogposter.
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>>124084389
I think you mistake DaS for DS.
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>>124084171
It's intended to emulate N64/PS1 era secrets areas. Being able to transform into a dragon is significantly different than other covenant rewards that, without knowledge of the game, sounds absurd.
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>>124084430
No I'm not talking about Dead Space you retarded frogposter.
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Oh my fucking God, this "Your character just... forgets the path to Iron Keep!" shit is still going?

Wasnt this a joke from /v/? Why... What? Argh.
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>>124084562
Not the guy you were talking to, and it's Demon's Souls, not Dead Space you fucktard.
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Shame that DS2's plot was a lot of pointless filler.
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>>124084726
Stop defending a retarded frogposter he was being a retarded frogposter he said
>or expand upon Demon souls, or DS1
So unless he said "Demons souls or Demons Souls 1" in which case he is a retard
or he said
or he meant "demons souls or Dark Souls 1" in which case he is a retard because DS3

No matter how you look at it its a dumb edgy frogposter making a post without even bothering to think 2 seconds about what he is saying
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>>124084664

It's all either black or white, Anon. Don't think about it. See >>124081573 :^)
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>>124084664
Today it's "the elevator is actually a disguised dimensional vortex".
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Would it ever be possible to restore content to Dark Souls via fan mods?

That Shiva of the East quest sounds neat. He'd ask for the Chaos blade sword, then betray you, and you have to invade him. That would allow a proper fight between him and his ninja, which could give you their unique items without murdering them without reason.
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>>124084947
Na man you just forgot about it
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>>124084664

Sometimes you just have to lie if you want to sleep better.
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>>124084883
And your point is...?
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>>124084664
In reality, path to iron keep was originally going to be a vast valley you had to cross, but they cut that cause at some point they had to redo the whole game and turn the open world game into what we have now.
DaS2 is a tragedy, really.
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>>124085042
That is dumb and so are you? Goddamn are you mentally handicapped he said "DS1 will never be expanded upon" and we are getting DS3.

You are a dumb frogposter, and you were wrong, like literally every frogposter ever on the history of the site, now accept that you said something dumb and go back to jacking off to MLP or whatever the fuck you do
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>>124085073
>those masks
Fucking Tanimura.
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>>124085073
That CG trailer got me so hyped. Not because it was aimed towards dudebros at a dudebro event announced by Jessica Alba but because of the locales shown. That intro to Iron Keep reminded me of Kiln of the First Flame.

I wish there was more to Kiln. It looked like I was gonna have another Tower of Latria on my hands and then it was just five BKs and the boss.
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>>124085178
You sound upset, kid.
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>>124085025
You mean like how everyone in DS2 is a dude in armor? I guess its true enough can't handle your favorite youtubber being wrong
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>>124085203
I like the new ones more.
They're the "obligatory goofy headpiece" that every dark souls game should have in at least several variations.
Something like that is going to be in DaS3 too. As well as the "obligatory greatshield weapon".
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>>124085320
Wonder if we will ever get a souls game that is "complete" from start to finish, or if whoever is in charge bloats everything until reality hits and the latter half is rushed to all hell and beyond again.
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>>124085571
>a souls game that is "complete"

BB: Game of the Year Edition :^)
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>>124085073
The Dark Souls 2 reveal was so fucking good, it was better than DS3 and BB in my opinion.
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>>124085571
>amount of stuff, variety, unique things and PC port stuff from ds2
>atmosphere quality from bloodborne
>ds1 tier level design
>i won't play it because toaster
it hurts to live
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>>124085770
You mean "hunter edition" aka "Scholar of the its okay when Mia does it" edition?
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i have question since this is my first play
i made him hostile in the cell and kill me if i leave alone he still will trigger the event?
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>>124085770
There was a downgrade tho.
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>>124085073

I know, man. I read the interview. Truly a shame that Shibuya fucked everything up.

What I dont understand is why some people insist so much with this kind of "teories". Its pretty obvious that the DaS1 Lord Areas were rushed (I dont really see an explaination for seeing both Ash Lake and Izalith so close to each other from Tomb of Giants, maybe it was supposed to be larger?). So why cant people simply accept that Mytha's room isnt a mile long? Or that NO. THERE ISNT. A. FUCKING. LAVA LAND. UP. THE. WINDMILL.

Goddamn, the background volcano in Earthen Peak is still not there even after SotFS. Come on, people.
>>
>>124085770
I wish we had access to the same sort of resources for looking behind the scenes of Bloodborne as we do for the other games.
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>>124085918
Trying to compare Scholar and the Old Hunter edition is either willful ignorance or a complete failure to understand the criticisms leveled at Scholar.
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>>124085949
No

>>124086007
A design works book will come in time if you mean that. Dark Souls 2's is only now coming out in the west.
If you mean getting into the game's files then I wonder that too. Wasn't SFV's PS4 beta datamined?
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>>124085918
>Dark Souls gets repackaged with DLC
>same thing as Dark Souls + AotA

>Bloodborne gets repackaged with DLC
>same thing as Bloodborne + TOH

>Dark Souls 2 gets repackaged with DLC
>completely redesigned game

lol, DS2 babby sounds mad
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>>124085995
>Or that NO. THERE ISNT. A. FUCKING. LAVA LAND. UP. THE. WINDMILL.
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>>124085918

No.
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>>124086276
>this desperation

if the earthenpeak was under a cliff

why is it so bright there?
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>>124086164
>No
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>>124086168
>completely redesigned game
>they shouldn't charge money for it they didn't change shit
erri time
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>>124086276

inb4 that "durr who cares man xD" pic.
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>>124086437
They didn't change the actual problems with the game.
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>>124086437
>it's okay when B-team does it
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>>124085995
I also heard Nashandra was not even going to be the final boss and her bossfight was originally placed where the Rotten was.
Can anyone here actually confirm/debunk that?
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>>124086536

Post it anyways, I didn't save it.
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>>124086568
I don't care to argue this shit just hilarious because people will claim 2 polar opposite things about the game, whichever is needed for the current bitching at hand.
I'm 90% sure its the same people too just at different times
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>>124085930
Yeah if i think.
Not sure if he will still move to firelink (where he will still be hostile) or if he will kill the firekeeper directly
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>>124086723
so i still could obtain his armor?
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>>124086645
>I also heard Nashandra was not even going to be the final boss
Correct.

>her bossfight was originally placed where the Rotten was.
Not quite. They said her original role was closer to Nito's. The Rotten is essentially the Nito equivalent, but that's not to say she had his job exactly.
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>>124042551
>mfw backstabbing him when he's waving at me and plunge attacking him when he's running away through the archway
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>>124086842
Yeah, you'll have to let him kill the firekeeper, go to anor londo and kill him there i think.
Or you could man the fuck up and kill him here, difficult the first time but by the time he moves to firelink it's pretty doable even without cheesing/magic
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>>124086843
It's so sad to know we're never going to see who the original end boss was supposed to be.
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>>124086948
>mfw using seed of giant when he runs away
>comes back at me directly with mobs right behind me
>get shrekt
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Are there any dark souls characters that are not undead?
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>>124086706
It's not polar opposite things.
"They didn't change anything worth an additional $20 purchase" is completely valid to say alongside "They changed the game so much as to be distinct from vanilla",

The problem is even the things they changed weren't necessarily to the better. The dragon skeleton in Aldia's is outright worse than in the base game. Pate's trap is just a shitty bumrush instead of any sort of staggered encounter. The NPC invaders in base game are cancerous and they shoved even more in. The dragon shrine expects you to fight enemies that are widely regarded as some of the worst enemies in the game. They changed several NPC placements just for the sake of changing them, not to improve the game but to catch people who played the original off guard, because they felt like they had to change it to justify calling it an updated rerelease.

It is, at the same time, too different to be classified as the same type of release as TOH or PtDE and too inconsequentially different to be worth the cost of upgrading. It's not an improvement, it's just different.
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>>124087509
Sieglinde.
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>>124087537
Again I don't care to argue the point, it's still 100% retarded to complain that they changed the game and that they didn't change the game at the same time.
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>>124087509
Shalquoir.
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>>124087509
Actually, there's not really confirmation on most Dark Souls NPCs being undead. Sure, Lordran is where the Undead are sent, but nothing outright states that only the Undead are there.

Most of them are likely Undead, but it's been confirmed that Sieglinde isn't. Dusk's situation is entirely magical fuckery. The Fair Lady, Quelana, Quelaag, etc are most likely not undead. Maybe not even the forest hunters or Patches. Not even Andre is a guarantee.

The list of characters who are explicitly stated or shown to be Undead is much smaller than you would think at a first glance.
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>>124087779
Because you're leaving out a single word that makes it entirely justified.

>they changed the game and they didn't change the game enough at the same time

That's a perfectly legitimate statement.
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>>124088323
>That's a perfectly legitimate statement.
No because there is no way to measure "enough" change.

Nobody forced anyone to get SotFS and instead of just slapping the DLC on and calling it a day the devs went out of their way to change things in the base game AND they gave a discount.
But no both of those make them assholes because its DS2 and we just have to find shit to bitch about in DS2 because fuck DS2, you are literally asking for less content and lazier development because you can't accept anything in DS2 being a good thing, stop digging that hole for 2 seconds and consider what argument you are making right now
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>>124086276
Is that the Bloodborne DLC area?
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>>124088203
>Maybe not even the forest hunters or Patches.

Patches specifically mentions he's undead.

>Not even Andre is a guarantee.

He probably is. Lordran is too dangerous for normal people, and the blacksmiths seem driven to fill a role.
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>>124088675
>No because there is no way to measure "enough" change.

So it's an opinionated statement. That should be implicit.

>you are literally asking for less content and lazier development because you can't accept anything in DS2 being a good thing, stop digging that hole for 2 seconds and consider what argument you are making right now

I am asking for changes to be made to the actual problems of the game instead of shuffling enemies around and adding shitty invaders. There are changes that I will recognize as being an improvement, like lighting the torches in the Gutter having an effect. These changes are not worth the price of upgrading, especially not when packaged with all the detrimental changes they included.
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>>124084664
People are just ridiculing BB DLC fuckup since it's the same shit.
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I'm a DaS2 Noob trying to beat the game with dual Ceastus.

I'm curious as to how i'm supposed to augment the weapon. Is increasing both of them the way to go, or only one? I'm already aware of the poison proc, i just don't know whether to apply it to both or just one.
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>>124089223
>am asking for changes to be made to the actual problems of the game instead of shuffling enemies around and adding shitty invaders
No you are asking for nothing, you are literally saying that it would be better if nothing was done
You are asking for less content that is all you are asking. You would be okay with sotfs if it cost the same amount or more but had even LESS content. See how fucking retarded your stance is or are you still too invested? Want to take a day off and read that again later and realize how utterly retarded you are being right now
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what are the best armour sets to have in the late game,
i'm still using upgraded wanderers set, but i'm beginning to take a lot of damage.
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>>124089502
>poison caestus
Don't do that. Just leave them both unenchanted +10.
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>>124089560
You are putting so many words in my mouth I'm having trouble breathing.
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>>124090469
No, you literally said that you think SotFS would be better value for money if it had less content.
You are fucking retarded
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Is it me or magic/miracles are useless PvE in DS2?
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>>124090263
>current year
>wearing any clothing in Dark Souls
>not just running around naked and beating everyone to death with your bare fists

go back to casual shit games like Minecraft desu
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>>124090665
I did not literally say that.
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>>124090386
tanks man. I've been told there is one boss that will make me want to quit, but I don't think Little Mac would, so I won't either.
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>>124090876
uhuh
>PTDE edition is good because it didn't change shit
>Hunter edition is good because it didn't change shit
>SotFS is bad because it changed shit
You are asking for less content retard
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>>124091150
There are only a handul of actually challenging bossfights, mainly from the DLC areas.
I just hope you leveled up ADP, otherwise even Beyblade Sentinels might be a problem.
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>>124091332
The Old Hunter's edition doesn't ask that you pay an additional $20 when you've already bought the DLC.
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>>124091332
>>124091626
The Old Hunter's edition isn't also going to split it's playerbase up into haves and have nots.
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>>124091626
>The Old Hunter's edition doesn't ask that you pay an additional $20 when you've already bought the DLC.
Suuuure it doesn't you can totally upgrade to old hunter edition for free! You are deluded beyond all reason
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>Trying to balance out a Sorcery/Miracle user with a Demon Greataxe
Does healing scales up with Faith?
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>>124091859
You don't have to "upgrade" to the Old Hunter edition if you have the DLC. You'll be playing the same game.
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>>124092075
>You'll be playing the same game
And you wiill be playing the same DS2 if you don't buy the DLC
If you want the new content you buy the upgrade if you don't want the new content nobody is stealing your vanilla DS2 + DLC.

Finally realizing how dumb you are or wanna keep going for a while?
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>>124092261
I'm finally realizing how dumb you are, so I'll go ahead and stop now.

There is no point in talking to you.
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>>124092072
>estus
no
>healing miracles
It scales with magadjust which in turn depends on the talisman and your faith.
there are ranges of faith which X talisman is better, i suggest you to check yourself.
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>>124092510
Sure there is because the scholar upgrade totally stole your DS2 + DLC from you?
If you do't pay for Hunter edition you have BB + DLC
If you don't pay for Scholar you have DS2 + DLC

The difference is that the scholar upgrade from just DS+DLC cost less and has extra content
Getting through to you yet? Na probably too confusing for you
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Can anyone help me with ideas of fashion to go along with the saints hood in Ds2. female
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>>124093136
Scholar upgrade totally stole my other players.
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>>124066447
inb4 replying to a 7 hour old post
Also spoilers

Just keep exploring the castle parts in Forest of Fallen Giants. You'll eventually find a elevator that brings you down to the first boss in the game, Last Giant.
After that you're done in Forest for now. Go back to Majula and, as horrible as it sounds, the next part is to learn how to beat the crap out of those giant sentinels in Heides Tower of Flame. As soon as you beat the first boss there Dragonrider another path opens up from Majula which is superlong, not that hard and will give you alot of stuff to face the rest of the game
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>>124093337
Guess they all though the upgrade was worth it then
Must suck to be the minority who hates everything
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>>124094345
>why aren't you paying more money for a shit game bro
>you must hate everything bro
>i'm having way more fun that you gargling this paid-for shit bro
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>>124094345
Of course they thought the upgrade was worth it.
Vaati has a $5400/month Patreon. The majority is often very stupid.
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>>124094475
M8 you literally said you didn't like majority of the changes, apparently the majority of the playerbase did and they left you behind.
This is a statement of facts and no matter how much you try to twist it, it's just you liking a less popular thing and being upset that its not as popular as the more popular thing.

Get over yourself
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Is it worth infusing my Bone Scythe with fire and buffing it with CPR/FW?
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>>124094654
What are your stats, because Dark usually ends up being better
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>>124094614
Not the other anon, but do you have any citation for "the majority of the playerbase" liking it?
And just play numbers wouldn't be enough unless the margin is pretty big, because plenty of people bought SotFS for the DLC alone.

The original point wasn't "stop liking what I don't like", it was "stop designing games to make me pay you more money by segregating the playerbase".
And that's totally fair, because a game with an already lacking PvP system shouldn't have its playerbase split for money.

>>124094654
Resins can't be applied to infused weapons.
But normally, yes. If you have vanilla, definitely, because scaling is arse.
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>>124095634
>Not the other anon, but do you have any citation for "the majority of the playerbase" liking it?
Yes
The amount of people playing either version, you can look it up on steamcharts, right now its 1k peak players in DS2 and 3.5k peak for SotFS

He also brought up segregating the playerbase in his last post, everything else was about how it was totally different from Hunters Edition because hagjbklalöjdaw??8y31

>Resins can't be applied to infused weapons
Buff spells work though so its not really an issue
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>>124095634
>using any consommable in a game where SM is used to determine who you'll be paired with
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>>124095634
>because scaling is arse
But infusion scaling is even worse. Nigga you so full of shit
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What boss weapon should i pick?
Currently on a pure melee build, decent strength, medium dex.
Preferably something that can be used for a decent amount of time
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>>124096097
>everything else was about how it was totally different from Hunters Edition because hagjbklalöjdaw??8y31

You make being so stupid look so effortless.
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>>124096971
Warped Sword is one of the best weapons in the game, other than that they are all pretty meh at best and get outclassed by their normals counterparts which don't need a rare resource to upgrade either.

Boss weapons on the whole are kind of disappointing with a few rare exceptions
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>>124096971
It depends what you prefer, really. I personally love polearms, so I'd suggest the gargoyle's one.
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>>124097459
>>124097475
Anything there that can do something special?
Special attacks or animation would make my run more fun as i used a vanilla kind of weapon until now.
Otherwise something that can benefit greatly from infusion, i was thinking about getting something with poison or bleed and that can hit fast enough to build it
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New DaS3 info fucking when ?
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>>124097928
Read the items' descriptions, special attacks are detailled in them.
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Just bought Dark Souls 2 with the expansion thing.

Tips? I stopped playing Dark Souls once you get to that one building you need to ring the bells to get into, so I'm basically a noob when it comes to the Souls series.
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>>124098276

This weekend.
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>>124097928
From the current selection nothing really special, weapons that do have special attacks have a burb for it at the end of their description, something like "special attack: Strong attack"
It's not like they are expensive or that you are going to use the souls for anything else so feel free trade them in and test out the movesets, there are very few souls that upgrade into multiple thing, look at the wiki if you are too nervous about anything.

As a general rule you don't want to infuse anything that does not already have that effect on them, and even then there are exceptions where the infusion just doesn't give enough to justify it.

If you like STR weapons do yourself a favor and pick up the grand lance in FotFG and greatsword in the warf.
Some weapons don't have their special moves listed in the description (FUGS) because go fuck yourself, make a habit of testing out all possible moves with a weapon when you get it
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>>124098537
PS Experience, right ? There better be something there.
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>>124098530
A shield will make most of the game pretty easy. Also, the mace is a pretty overpowered weapon.
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Replaying dark souls 2 and I have to say I like the environments a lot more than ds1. I wish they cohesively connected and blended into the next instead of seeming like you are walking through an amusement park however
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>>124098530
Look around a lot. Takes things slowly. Very slowly. Explore a lot, but don't take risks. Don't be afraid of running away, but don't try to run forward, most enemies will follow you.

Leave the game when you feel frustrated or you'll get killed again and again.
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>>124098581
I do have the normal greatsword.
I didn't upgrade it yet not only because i have to fatroll with it unless i got naked but because it does this strange thing when even if i'm locked on if i press S when i attack my character does a 360 and moonwalks away, missing the target.
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>>124098276
tomorrow on VGA or saturday, definitely
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>>124098530
>>124098826
This and if you just plain can't get past some point just go look for another path somewhere else entirely, the game is fairy open ended as to what order you can do most of the content up until Castle Dragnleic.

>>124098896
The biggest flaw of UGSs unfortunately, the overheads follow where you are moving rather than where you are looking no matter if you are locked on or unlocked, it can be really annoying but you can get used to it.
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>>124099070
>VGA
Oh yeah, they usually show new trailers between awards.
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>>124096971
Warped Sword is meta-tier.
Arced Sword is a Murakumo with a better skin.
Gargoyle Bident just looks cool, in my personal opinion. But it's also a STR spear with the second longest reach in the game, so it's not too shabby.
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>>124098806
Yeah, they mentioned in the Design Works interview that, due to whatever fuck up happened half way through, they had to connect the areas that were already completed at that time in whatever way possible in order to meet the deadline. I don't understand why they didn't delay the game a few months to make sure they had the time to do it properly.
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How rare is the fucking sea bow?
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>>124099378
Yes, back in 2012 they revealed DS2
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>>124099895
>I don't understand why they didn't delay the game a few months
Money, kid.
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>>124099895
>a few months
as has been stated in the interviews they would have had to remake basically every area, that is a shitload of time, while also leaving the art/modeling/texture/animators with way less to do while also having to keep paying them.

It's a shitty thing that it happened but it was string shit together for the deadline or scrap everything, and after all that hype? Not really a choice.
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Opinions?
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>>124100792
Gonna get rekt/10
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Are these compatible? Or is it one or the other?

>Andres Cranial Ember
>Improved Face Texture

http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/23/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/93/?
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>>124101329
They're not actually mods, they're just texture replacements. It'll be one or the other.
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>>124100792
80 looks a bit too small but 90 looks like im on speed. Can you try 85?
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>>124100452
But it makes me wonder, why didn't they keep the stuff that was already completed and shown in the IGN preview ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JFDPCtXFY

Lighting aside, the FoFG has a slightly different layout as well as Aldia's. Also, the textures are higher quality that the shitty ones that were in the final version (you could argue that they even look better than the SotFS ones). So they basically fixed what didn't need fixing with these areas.
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>>124100792
>tfw I will soon be able to play dark souls in quake mode

hnnnng
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its ok to die with him after ring the first bell?
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>>124102337
uhh yeah sure
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>>124101329
She looks like a fat Michael Cera.
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>>124101513
>textures lighting sounds
were all consoles being shit and not being able to handle it
Overall design wise maybe it just didn't pan out the way they wanted, people are kind of too obsessed with what could have been even if it was removed or changed for a reason, don't do that. There could have been performance issues or massive unfixable bugs, we really don't know
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Wait, in ds2 the fat roll limit is 70%?
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>>124090687
in scholar's of the first sin i find that the extra heals and heavenly thunder can be usefull and only require a minimum investment
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>>124101474
Sure.

>>124101619
It is more or less playable right now, but I'm trying to figure out a good way of hiding a shield when it's on your back, because it clips through the camera constantly.
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>>124096284
Yes, scaling is worse, and base damage is higher, so it's better overall.
On top of that, you can buff the elemental infusions, and the worse scaling lets you gouge the important stats.
Not to mention elemental resistances on stuff like shields normally being lower.

>>124096097
>Buff spells work though so its not really an issue
Which is why I didn't say that buffs couldn't be applied, just resins.
Don't overcorrect people, buddy.

>>124098806
Some of them are nicer, but some are straight corridors.
The environments are normally better conceptually in DaS 2, but they're implemented better in DaS.
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>>124103375
70% is fatroll
100% is slowed movement
120% is get stunned when you try to roll
Below 70% roll distance, stamina cost and overall stamina regen scales pretty linearly from 0->70%, no threshold before then.

AGL governs your i-frames during rolls, they start as soon as you start a roll, so don't roll early with low AGL
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>>124103640
>Yes, scaling is worse, and base damage is higher, so it's better overall.
Only in very rare cases, split weapons get reduced twice and WILL deal less damage to every enemy except an enemy that is weak to that element.

Infusions are generally NOT good unless a weapon has C/D scaling to start with or your character has 10DEX/STR with 50INT/Faith, just using weapon buffs/resins are is the way to go most of the time
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>UGS don't do that much damage
>every other weapon does good amounts of damage

???
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>>124104053
I'm pretty sure the armor gradient was changed so split damage isn't always worse.
It depends on your Fire bonus, though. In any case, it's always stronger to go Fire Weapon + infusion, especially since it's free stats-wise.

Pure has always been shit in DaS 2. Maybe SotFS improved that, but I doubt it, since it would have been too major a change for them to give a shit about.
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>>124104234
Bait.
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Is drangelic sword any good?
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>>124104379
>Pure has always been shit in DaS 2
No, just no
Unless you have very very very low DEX/STR or the weapon has D scaling or worse an infusion will make it weaker.

This is coming from someone that still regularly plays DS2 and does all sorts of builds, infusions are are a niche thing for niche builds
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>skeleton lords
>don't know how they work
>ok three v one boss battle i can do it
>swing the FUCKING MACE OF POWER
>two shots the guy
>wow this boss must be for lower levels
>backstab the second guy
>wait r u trying to fool me donald
>sum of the three hp doesn't total the HP bar
>see a dozen skeletons spawn behind me
>as a melee only no poise char
Maximum spook
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>>124106059
that boss was such a disappointment. even if you do burst all the skeltal lords in one go it's still really easy to kite rest of the skeltals.
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how much effort should I put into upgrading a weapon in ds1?
using the gargoyle halberd and I have it on +4 or so. Should I keep upgrading and ascend and all that or should I wait for a stronger weapon?
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>>124105942
And this is coming from someone who played the game for 270 hours, starting at release.
Pure was shit to start with, and I recall one patch which made scaling slightly better.
But it was still awful, and you were better off with any infusion that wasn't Bleed/Poison, including Raw.
Even if you went for 40/40 as I did on a Qua build with a good weapon, you got outdamaged by same or lighter class weapons with elemental damage.

You couldn't have two fights in the Arena without one of them using a buff, and chances are both would.
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>>124106387
Your weapon is more important than your stats. Just get any weapon to +5 as soon as you meet Andre. +5 and +10 are non-issues and you should only worry what weapon to take past +10.
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>>124106692
>You couldn't have two fights in the Arena without one of them using a buff, and chances are both would.
I am convinced you have absolutely no idea what you are on about at this point
Buffs are great because especially resins cost nothing, infusions are rare as fuck

>scaling is shit don't bother
is a meme and nothing more, infusions are ass unless you are a dedicated int/faith char and thats the end of it
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>>124070785
I'll give you no full orbs but at least that can be salvaged by cheat engine.
Dex builds are pretty good in PvE, the fuck are you on about? Pretty much anything is viable.
Bosses in DaS2, like any souls game, fluctuate in quality. 2 has 2 smelter demons, DaS1 has 3 assylum demons. Wow.
The soundtrack was pretty much the same as the first game's, this is subjective.
>I can't dodge ogres so they're bad game design lol!
>I can't dodge spells/the guy I was fighting is from mexico so lag = bad game design lol!
Despawning enemies is a good thing for new players. If you want to farm them infinitely, just join the Covenant of Champions.
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>>124073363
Lost Izalith is actually Eleum Loyce now. The Iron Keep is just its own new area not related to DaS1 aside from the Old Iron King inheriting Gwyn's soul.
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>>124076652
Outcry is honestly the best aoe pyro spell. If you cast it after you backstab someone you WILL hit them at least 90% of the time compared to the other firestorm spells.
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>>124107330
>Despawning enemies is a good thing for new players. If you want to farm them infinitely, just join the Covenant of Champions.
This.
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>>124080361
>that fucking water
It's like I'm really playing DaS1!
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>>124107030
>infusions are rare as fuck
What version of the game were you playing, Infusions fall out of the sky.
There's a vendor that sells you nothing but upgrade materials and Infusion stones, and you don't stop finding the things for free anyways.
Especially in the Dragon Aerie.

>>124107330
>cheating fixes the problems
Alright, Bethesdrone, we like a complete game here.
Dex suffers for having no consistent blunt weaponry still.
Bosses are more consistently shit. Smelter is actually one of the best.
Ogres are a joke, especially the grab attack. There is no "gitting gud" with broken mechanics.
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>"if you don't fastroll then you're scum!"
>"if you use a shield then you're scum!"
>"it's SOOO easy to fastroll and dodge everything!"

If it's so easy and you're so good then do a fatroll run without getting hit
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>>124107835
>we like a complete game here.
Oh so I guess you don't like Dark Souls 1 then? It is rather unfinished and rushed towards the end, after all.
Strike damage being OP in PvE doesn't necessarily mean you're forced to use it, so why complain about it unless you're a shitter who absolutely has to rely on it? Also the Ivory Straight Sword is a dex weapon that does strike damage, albeit a shitty weapon.
Bosses aren't more consistently shit, they fluctuate to very high quality like Fume Knight and Alonne which are seriously in the top 5 bosses in the entire series. If you can't comprehend their fights you might just be bad at the game.
If ogres are such a joke, why are you calling them broken? Are you seriously not smart enough to get behind them, bait the buttstomp, swing twice, and repeat? You can roll from their grab attacks too if you don't pull a DSP and roll too early.

Seriously your arguments just boil down to "I'm bad so DaS2 is bad". This is a little sad.
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>>124108134
you can fatroll the entire game in DaS but not really in DaS2 because hitboxes.
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>>124108285
>>124107835
Also I like how you didn't even mention my other points, you just ignored them lel
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Has anyone else been having problems summoning?
Me and my friend were cooping all well and good up until recently where we just can't see each others sign at all
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>>124107835
>no consistent blunt weaponry still
DEX has 1 strike weapon
STR has 1 thrust weapon
I fail to see the issue

Slash is general
Strike is STR anti armor
Thrust is DEX anti armor
Wow so complicated
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>>124108296

the point is people go the easy route and claim that it's difficult so they appear to be skilled. it brings a false sense of skill.
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Started a new char, try to invade in the giant forest. Nobody found. I got fucking softbanned for adding two characters to my guys name. This is bullshit.
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>>124108841
I don't know about that.
Have you ever watched someone truly casual flail their way through the game with a Greatshield of Artorias? Yeah, rolling is pretty easy, but greatshields can be done by someone who is pretty much braindead. At least rolling takes timing.
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>>124108285
>It is rather unfinished and rushed towards the end, after all.
Which is something people constantly complain about, nobody is happy with, and nobody tries to excuse with "cheating will fix it".
People who act like DaS is flawless are in denial, and /dsg/ is surprisingly good about it, and those flaws don't excuse DaS 2's own.
Another fine Dex strike option is the Barbed club, but the point is more availability from the start is poor and the choice is even poorer. Strength, meanwhile, cannot move but for strike bullshit, and slash weakness is a non-issue.
>bosses aren't more consistently shit, here are some outliers
Not a solid way to prove your point.
The bosses that I count as good quality in the base game are:
Sinner, Gargoyles (stolen idea), Smelter, Najka is decent, Rotten is decent, Riders is decent, Velstadt, Watcher & Defender, Darklurker.
Out of 31 bosses, that's a poor show.
>If ogres are such a joke, why are you calling them broken?
Because the joke is the suggestion that they're at all fair. "rolling too early" out of grab attacks is only an issue thanks to how moronically large the hitbox is and how terrible the DaS 2 rolling mechanics are, and it's impossible to avoid with low ADP when you're close enough. Baiting an enemy into doing one attack only is bad design. It's like BSfishing most of the PvE experience - how is it excusable?

>>124108445
I'm not the original anon, I don't give a shit about the soundtrack.
Caring about enemy despawn is entirely about how you feel about casualisation, and it's not something I'm going to debate if you still hold your opinion after all that's been said in the past.

>>124108794
Thrust is neither as effective nor as useful as strike.
So many of the enemies are in some sort of armor, and thrust isn't as good for fighting them.
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>>124109153
Shields lock you into the blocking animation if you take a hit with them
Both cost stamina
Rolling moves you out of the attack hitboxes in terms of followups

Let's not delude ourselves with thinking either takes any more skill than the other
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>>124109053
I just wanted to make a str/faith co op bro. FML
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>>124109549
>Thrust is neither as effective nor as useful as strike.
First it was "scaling does nothing" and now this?
Thrusting weapons are gods at PvE, go watch any speedrun
Thrusting weapons are gods in casual PvE the strong 2 handed attacks will stagger almost everything that can be staggered and they have amazing counter damage

But no all you do is spout fucking memes from release day like the retard you are
>mace is the best
>scaling doesnt do anything
>everyone infuses weapons
>thrusting is bad
You are a funny man
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>>124109549
>Thrust is neither as effective nor as useful as strike
I finished the game with nothing but thrust weapons.
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Guys, a certain website is saying you can get out of a softban by just deleting your saves. Has anyone tried this?
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>constantly feel outskilled because everyone has sickdark moves
>backstep cancels, parry stuff, roll cancels
>so fast
>nobodies dodge game on point

Why even bother being so skilled if you havent mastered basics yet?
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>>124110647
And this proves their relative usefulness how?
You can finish the game with fists and no pawnch ring, doesn't make them good.

>>124110497
I didn't say thrust was bad, I said it wasn't as good as strike.
And that's true, strike is the king of the damage types.
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>>124110983
>I didn't say thrust was bad, I said it wasn't as good as strike.
Yes thats why people who try to beat the game as quickly as possible while killing all the bosses use strike weapons right?

Seriously stop spouting release time "i only played to heides tower of flame" tier of nonsense, thrust weapons are the shit in DS2, especially in PvE
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>>124110983
>You can finish the game with fists
I'd like to see that. Honestly, I really do.
The Old Iron King with just fists?
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>>124111443
Oi king is piss easy with anything, literally anything you could ladle his ass during his 10 second recovery windows
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>>124111563
>you could ladle his ass during
This is my fetish.
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>>124110950
It drives me fucking crazy getting invaded early in the game when I've got some +5 starter weapon and manage to backstab someone 2-3 times dodging their shit and still end up losing because all they need to land is 1 quick r1 hit with their fucking buffed UGS
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How can I make a dagger powerful in DS2 pvp? Also which dagger has potential?
Want to use a straight sword + dagger Artemis Entreri themed run. I just cant seem to do anything worth having for a dagger/.
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>>124111980
>losing to an UGS
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>>124111980
Thank god souls memory fixed that.
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>>124112038
The only really good "dagger" is the Black Flamestone Dagger which when two handed has really quick and long range r1s.
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http://illusorywall.tumblr.com/post/100174538929/dark-souls-2-unused-dialog-from-japanese-text

>Bearing in mind that there’s concept art for a child version of the Emerald Herald, as well as a completed model for her in the game’s files
Are there pics of her model?
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>>124112593
Can I bang her?
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How could Miyazaki even dare to inspire himself on Gutts to make Artorias? Artorias is such a big faggot whose legend was just speculation, but fucking Gutts is a damn übermensh.

Fuck you Miyazaki, stop fucking copying berserk
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>tfw the game isn't hard it's just insanely fun to fuck around in EVERY aspect of the game
>especially when 420 blazing it

anyone else

>tfw no smoking pipe staff/weapon/pyro catalyst
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>>124113540
DUDE, WEED, LMAO XD
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>>124113467
THE REAL HEROES TALE GOES UNTOLD

THIS IS ARTORIAS
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>>124113540
fucking weedaboos are actually the worse kind of weebs
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>>124113684
>>124113894
Hey now be nice
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>message in front of emerald herald
>gorgeous view ahead

THATS SO SWEET
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>>124113540
>tfw no smoking pipe staff/weapon/pyro catalyst
I'm a DUDEWEEDLMAOfag myself but that's just silly and would not fit in.
I miss animations for toxic/poison clouds from DaS1 though.
>>
/r/ing that drawn comparison of how fast you can chug estus with high adaptability
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>>124114320
What about a war fan fire catalyst
We already have katanas
>>
Reminder that all magic users are keks and need to leave right now
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>>124113947
Legit question: what's the appeal of weed besides it making you feel relaxed and fall asleep in the next 30 minutes?
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>>124115791
Burning yourself horribly when you fall asleep with your weed still burning and it falls on the bed and set it on fire.
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>>124115791
I actually mostly use it medicinally, it helps me act and and think like a normal person and not be worried about everything.

Normally i don't really get high -- I just use the minimal amount -- but this game is really fun when you are.
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>>124110101
What's your build I'm trying to make str/fth a sunbro in sotfs. Mainly because i build dex and str chars for pvp
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>invaded
>making my way to sentrio
>clear room past statue
>invader still not found
>take an arrow
>poison
>he's in the room above lucatiel/large tit shard
>wait for him
>poison shotel
>die
>invaded in luna
>poison

How to deal with this faggotry?
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>>124116470
Bone Scythe and Promised Walk of Peace and RP walk everywhere
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>>124116882
Git gud.
Poison moss.
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>>124116882
Heal up bro.

There's no reason not to.
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Welp I confirmed it. Deleting your dark souls 2 folder in %appdata%/roaming clears softbans. You dont need a new account this way, but you still have to lose your saves.
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>>124117505
So it's something set in your saves?
Could you not diff the files from before and after you get bannu'd to see what changes?
It would be useful as a recovery tool.
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>>124117835
I mean it's obviously related to the saves somehow, but I don't think they'd just make it a variable. There's a good chance it's near-impossible to change.
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>>124064167
ROLLAN
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>>124117446
>frost magic never
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>>124064167
roolie
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>>124064167
Rawling
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>>124117505
how do you know you were softbanned tho?
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>>124024342
Hey guys, I just got Dark Souls 1 from steam and I have questions. There's very little graphical options to change but I was wondering if there were any performance mods I could get. Maybe something that drops texture resolution a little as well as shadows.
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>>124119929
Started a new game, tried to spam the cracked red eye orb you can pick up in things betwixt in the second bonfire of the giant forest, got nothing. Deleted everything and started another new game, spammed the creo there again, and it worked on the first try. There were also a lot of summon signs on the ground too.
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>>124120191
DSfix
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>>124064167
lets go bby
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>>124120381
I went and looked it up elsewhere and just saw that after I ignored it in the pastebin. Thanks!
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>>124064167
rollan
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>>124120441
holy shit that's incredibly generic, I'm rerolling
>>124064167
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>>124120571
That's better, now can anyone tell me how Halberds scale? Is it best just to get say a magic/enchant on it and get like 44 int?
>>
Don't think we have talked about this but take a second to consider that the player character in the souls series is some kind of supernerd
You can instantly tell exactly how strong a weapon is going to be how much it would hurt someone, how it would hurt them and how good it would be at blocking etc by just looking at it, at the same time they have 0 idea as to what to do with anything thats not a rapier and just wildly swing it around while barely being able to lift it.
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>>124119348
>water magic never ever
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>>124120882
You do realize it's just a video game mechanic, right?
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Alright let's do this

6 NAMES HIM
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>>124121138

urafaget
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>>124121138
Sad Chad
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>>124121138
CaDeficient
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>>124121138
Celibate Monk
>>
Should the fume sword not be infused with lightning?
>>
>>124121581
I have no words.
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>>124119348
>DaS3 has a frost status effect
Hang in there, Skeleton!
>>
Sun Sword, drakesword, or longsword for my faith charaacter?? DS2
>>
>>124121138
Hodor
>>
>>124121138
Small D.
>>
>>124121138
M.C.Slammer
>>
Does /dsg/ still host FC's on SoTFS PC?
>>
>>124121138
Boy Love
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>>124122783
Not anymore :^)
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>>124123307
>yotsuba blue
>not transparent

kill yourself my man
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>>124121138
John
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>>124061839
replying from forever ago, but I just looked up and most mod of practically anything on sotfs is softbun, including ds2fix. Also something about the ds2fix durability part being removed because from actually fxed it (yet you guys say it wasn't?)

I dont know what to believe or do anymore. I just want normal durability degredation.
>>
>>124121138
cherryboy
>>
>>124123307
What happened? Everyone abandoned this bad game?
>>
>>124124292
yes
>>
>>124124621
What about DkS1?
>>
>>124121138
Tippins Fedarova
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>>124124292
It's more like this general is dead.
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>>124125061
This guy gets it.
>>
I miss the fight clubs.
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>>124121138
Buck
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>>124121138
Johnny.
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>>124128776
Winner.

But I have a feeling "Cena" needs to be added to spice it up a bit.
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>>124129137
Johnny Cena? The name doesn't matter anyway, no one online sees it.
>>
http://vocaroo.com/i/s04HnzH0TwEe

Rate my Sif impersonation
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>>124130502
NO GIRLS ALLOWED
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>>124130502
>>
so if I kill Andre immediately, I'm basically locked out of Lightning weapons since I can't ever ascend with the large ember, right?
>>
>>124131687
You're locked out of everything good.
>>
Whats a good halberd for fashion and damage in Ds2 pvp for a faith build?
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>>124131687
correct.
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>>124130502
faggot
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>>124130502
Terrible.
Here's a better one
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0UDknPRbdtd
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>>124132440
nice one skeev
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>>124133165
Thanks. I like to think I'm very clever.
>>
I am playing dark souls for the first time (second day), bought it for 5 bucks on steam.
blind playthrough.

3 questions

Should I go to the grassy area after finding the smith? (I mean the grassy area after the giant monster that shoots lightning, I thought it was a boss but I think you just have to run)
I killed the knights in the church, including the one with the giant weapon, and found an elevator that took me to the starting area.

2)Am I missing a lot for playing as a hollow and not human?

3)Is PVP really that necessary? Is it ok to play this as a lonely single player action adventure game about exploration, like a Metroid game? Do I miss a lot without PVP?
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>>124133614
So did you ever finish 2?

ever since Blackmajor got banned I haven't talked to him lol
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>>124133748
You should go to the grassy area, there are 3 paths, 1 will lead you to a hydra, the 2nd will lead you to a door you can't open, and the 3rd is right next to that door, you want to go to the 3rd path, it will lead you to a butterfly boss (there is also a hidden bonfire by that door, try attacking the wall next to it)

The only thing you're missing by being hollow is being able to summon NPC's or people to help you with bosses (or get invaded, these can only happen if you are human)

PVP is completely optional, it's only use is for fun or covenants which you really shouldn't be worrying about on your first playthrough

PVP in ds1 is kind of dead anyways, most people play SOTFS if they want PvP as it's much more action packed

(p.s. after the butterfly head back to solaire (praise the sun guy) and open the door before the bridge leading to the hellkite dragon, from there you will fight 2 bosses)

If you don't want to fight those bosses and you have the master key, you can always access the next necessary boss by going to new londo ruins and opening the gate to valley of drakes and heading into blighttown

I realize this was really long and might not make a lot of sense for a first time player so if you have any questions just ask
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>>124133748
>2)Am I missing a lot for playing as a hollow and not human?

Not really, but it does help in certain ways. Being human allows you to kindle bonfires, which increases the amount of estus flasks you have from 5 to 10 (15 and then 20 if you have the Rite of Kindling special item) for each humanity you spend. Also, being human allows you to summon NPCs for boss fights and players for the areas and boss fights, but it also allows you to be invaded by NPCs and other players. If you play offline, then you can only summon and be invaded by NPCs (but you won't see any player message). If you get invaded by NPCs and you beat them, you can get some of their items.

>3)Is PVP really that necessary? Is it ok to play this as a lonely single player action adventure game about exploration, like a Metroid game? Do I miss a lot without PVP?

Of course you can. PvP can add a little bit of pepper to your game (although beware that twinking exists), but it's perfectly fine to play this as a single player game.
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>>124133963
Nah, I haven't played it. Battlefront came out and I've been doing that instead.
I should probably try and make some progress but it's also the holidays and there's more stuff I have to do.
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>>124135404
Ahh, Battlefront isn't working on my PC, i've been trying to bugfix for the past week but nothing

PM me whenever if you want to finish
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>>124135754
You're not missing anything.
Also, will do.
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I'm gonna make the new thread
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