Bridging Caps Edition
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Thread permalink: http://orph.link/eog
>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.
>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.
Read the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/t9Af7NJY (embed) (embed) (embed)
Future:
>Spring: Citadel expansion & cap rebalance release
>Spring: Amarr Championship finals: Tash-Murkon (Kelon Darklight) vs Kor-Azor (Lysus)
>Dec 08: Frostline Expansion Countdown: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20151208T11&p0=211&msg=Winter+Patch&font=slab
Past:
>Nov 26: Fozzie confirms OGB removal in ~1 month (after Frostline)
>Nov 25: shitposting about goons reaching critical levels community-wide
>Nov 23: Leak of possible Frostline rewards on Sisi imgur.com/gallery/zQ7ED/new
>Nov 20: overview of FROSTLINE EXPANSION (new event, ships, balancing, visuals): http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/operation-frostline-and-holidays-in-eve-online-an-update-from-ccp-seagull/
>Nov 19: Dropbears are all out of All-Out's hole
>Nov 18: MITTENS & CO GET RUSED THE FUCK OUT BY PH, AUTZ BEST TZ
>Nov 17: Command Dessie feedback thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6171886#post6171886
>Nov 05: Manny kicked from CSM (leaks?)
>Nov 03: Parallax: "Bugs in a Box", jump fatigue reduced, entosis regen
>Oct 25: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reworking-capital-ships-and-thus-it-begins/
>Oct 15: SP trading concept presented
>Aug 13: Citadel FAQ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mEbMx9xUXje3KH4AppvcjSSoALUVtVEaK6ZZ-zy2Lrs/edit#
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
>amarr
Here mining to my heart's content.
>mining
>content
>amarr
Post dogs and then greentext a ship with no obvious correlation.
>Nemesis
>>123898949
That is exactly how I look.
sorry for letting the thread die, I wasplaying the game
Ca we post it totumblrfor thelulz?
Posting penguins because I can!
That and I made a channel for people interested in small-gangs fights in Placid, join "Penguins!"pls
>Merlin
>>123901057is this a trick to get me to reveal my identity on /eog/? I'm near placid
I want an EVE Online player's opinion on Elite: Dangerous, please?
>>123901143
Don't fear, anon, we are all friends here.you gonna have to be okay with flying with some Caldari though
>Caldari
Gertrude pls
halp
>Been out 6 months
>Gave away my characters
>The itch is back
>svipul
>>123901862if I join channel is it going to be like 1 guy in there?
>>123904834
join on a neutral alt first
or else he is gonna penguin your shit,if you know what I mean
>>123905061I'll join tomorrow if I remember, I'm done for today
Hey.
I have read that people from something awful are actually the most powerful fraction in this game.
This makes me currious why you boys aren't more powerful. I mean: come on, you surely can do better than fucking goons. With out huge userbase we are titans compared to them.
Yet I have never heard about 4chan's faction. What went wrong? Why we aren't around?
I'm not an EVE player BTW.
>>123908154
0/10
>>123908154
cuz ur gay XD
>>123908154
(you)
>>123908154
apply inside
>>123908154
join Horde or Waffles
>>123909592
>>123908990
>>123908580
>>123908564
>>123908251
That was a serious question. I don't know how can I prove it to you, so I will just post my add or remove programs window. No Eve Online there and there never was.
>>123908154
>Anonymous Image board
>Wants people from said imageboard to no longer be anonymous
aren't you a genius?
>>123908154
>>123910580
>>123910580
> No Eve Online there and there never was.
Ofc.
>>123910580
The 4chan "group" would have all been traitors and spies
theres no point in making a corp out of shooting yourself in the foot
>>123913116
>>123913296
Big Pi still plays?
>>123913378
Mussah is the CEO
Pi peeps his head into slack when we poke him
>>123913458
why is Noot Noot not the CEO?
also what happened to rex?
>>123913520
noot is an elite pvper not a leader
rex doesn't play but we shitpost at him
>>123913640
goddamn then who still plays?
>>123913731
Theres fresh blood
I think reyni resubbed and vil is around but got bullied out of directorship because what a shitter he was
amp just shitposts and does nothing with 240m spand i poached their top scannerwhoops
>>123913985
>amp just shitposts and does nothing with 240m sp
this shit triggers me
and vil was always a shitter
>That one guy that brought an armor mega to a shield BC fleet
>armor mega
>implying there is another kind
Punisher buff soon. I hope you all have Amarr Frigate 1 trained.
>>123916769
>implying I dont have all subs to 5
>>123917335
REMOVE SKILL POINTS!
>>123917683
Im maxing my 3rd dread type on my alt now
5/5 moros and torpedo phoenix and 4/5 Nag
>revelation
>18k players at peak time.
Prepare the lifeboats.
>>123918114
>early monday
>peak
>>123918114
>over 30k players on yesterday
>>123918114
nobody cares about your doomsayings
fuck off or play the game
>>123921469
Sounds to me like you really, really care if you're this desperate to stop people talking about it.
>>123924069
infinite skillque accounts for a portion of that
the rest would be price of plex meaning less active alt accounts, null people unhappy with phoebe and aegis
>>123924069
I'm desperate for faggots like you to shut up.
If you're not doing anything to fix it you're just blabbing around and being an annoying little shit.
>>123924654
I think the fact that you were dropped as a child accounts for your present retardation and denial.
>omen
>sniping cormorant
>corax
>>123929264
>offer a set of logical reasons why player activity is decline
>get told im denying player activity is declining
o-ok
>>123934149
welcome to EOG
>>123914186
What if all-out had a bunch of newblood that acted exactly like Noot
>>123934830
They would single-handedly dismantle the goon empire.
>>123924069
If they just fucking fired some of the retarded devs and actually did something for the game that made it better, instead of "balancing" that revolves around adding new stuff that counters the overpowered shit they added 6 months ago.
Jesus fuck
>>123937382
The shitty devs are protected by Icelandic laws mandating female workers be given express access to important professions.
>>123937729
Please tell me this isnt a thing
>>123937905
>nordic country
>being keked by ultrafeminist retardation
sounds about right
how much fuel do i typically need when someone asks me to light a cyno for them?
>>123941883
depends on your cyno level
I think its 450 at lvl 1 and each level makes it cost 50 less LO
>>123901843
the level of control it gives you of your ship is fun, but I can't see it outlasting eve - it somehow has even less content
Citadels are gonna be shit.
>>123943116
how?
Can anyone post a good svipul fit for c13s?
>>123947446
>c13s
please just call them shattered WRs
use a fessor
>>123948440
they're class 13
shattered wormholes and class 13's are synonymous
>>123948550
the skip from 6 to 13 drives me up a wall
shattered WR
>>123948646
who cares
>>123948684
I do. Mainly because my mapping tool does not denote them as c13s, but c6 shattered wrs instead
>>123948745
get a better tool
>>123948784
literally the best one on the market
>>123948886
obviously not if it can't do C13's
>>123948923
a pointless denotion
is there any decent fast tackle frig that can tank LS sentry guns for a bit?
>>123924069
>shows a decline of 10k over one year out of ten total
>again
>probably just saved the image because the last cunt who posted it got so many replies telling him to fuck off
so fuck off
>>123956019
frigate?
nah
need a couple logi to rep you and each other, snuffed out autists are haunting Ostingele with a daredevil, ashimmu and 2 augorors.
>>123956649
I want something with fast lock time
>>123924069
Oh look it directly correlates with the fall of Brave.
Thanks PL.
>dropbears were in all-out's hole
Missed that one. Quick recap? What have bears been up to after losing Nova anyway, I unsubbed a month before that.
>>123958332
didnt they win in nova?
>>123958457
lolno
OH MY GOD BROADCASTING FOR REPS
SERIOUS GUYS PLEASE HELP MEWhat should I eat? I have rice and some ramen I can't decide.
>>123958457
>hero coalition
>ever winning anything
They got blatantly scammed off dreds, had aDP fuck up fleets because he's a bad and a billion rookies and spies doing them more harm than good.
And couldn't counter petes.
>>123958514
I was about to post exactly that, funny.
>>123958580
Ramen.
MITTANI ASSBLASTED THAT HIS BOOK FAILED
NOW PUBLICALLY DISPLAYING HIS MICROPENIS FRUSTRATIONS FOR ALL TO SEE
http://pastebin.com/sBuzrgpU
>>123959367
so scared
pls save me
>>123959367
>Join me or I will blob you with numbers I no longer have
Top kek.
>>123958730
Wow, thanks for helping me through such a difficult time in my life anon,
>viceroalties
>not θÎμα
>>123962298
>θÎμα
whats that
>>123964225
I don't think this is right
>still no svipul nerf
>still no cruor buff
Which of you goyim crashed the stratios market?
>>123965649
It's close, that is a 1:1 transliteration roughly.
θÎμα = thema
>stratios
>>123967461
So it was you
One day I will find you unshaven fat hat man
>>123967439
what the fuck is that though?
>>123968225
>>123968324
so it will spawn something so cancerous that is beyond all imagination?
Server taking a shit on anyone else?
the fuck is wrong with the login servers?
>Sorry, but an error occured while processing your request.
>Error code: 3A90D796-1364-405A-A7B6-AFD64AA8BE01
the fuck
is there anything thats viable for sniping outside sentry gun range?
>>123969668
>3A90D796-1364-405A-A7B6-AFD64AA8BE01
Thanks for posting your Account Key, nerd. I'm gonna steal all your stuff.
>>123969876
no, being within range and tanking their low dps is better
finally back fucking faggot piece of shit server
>>123969965
almost got me there, anon ;D
I wish more ships were viable
I wish more players were gud.
>>123971801
>Laser moa
>Dear players, the servers will be closing immediately for an emergency reboot at 16:36. If at all possible, please make sure your characters are out of harm's way. See you again in 20 minutes!
>>123973548
>please make sure your characters are out of harm's way
You're not the boss of me.
>>123973548
Do we have any EVE bayeux?
>Amarr
>>123975004
>https://zkillboard.com/kill/50452142/
>Capacitor Battery
>Hax.
>dropbears
>>123977325
looks like a pretty solid fit except for that cap battery
>>123977325
I think you're just jealous of their cool storyline modules.
>>123978541
I really wish they would reduce the fitting requirement on these things purely and only because the cap battery is so stupidly useless on its own except for those estrange fits you see, the fact that the battery gets BTFO by cap rechargers (which have a fraction of the fitting) and cap boosters (which have a fraction of the fitting) means these modules are basically fucking useless
>>123979149
Their purpose is to supposedly counter neuts, which they do alright enough, but still pretty weak.
>>123979245
they don't really do that that well at all
cap boosters are better for resisting neutralizers purely and only because the cap boosters can just give you instant cap
what does a battery resist? like 12.5% of a neut?
>>123979575
yeah but the real "meme" purpose is that you stuff a bunch of them on shit that has way too much cap but will be a neut target and you force all the retarded bhaalgorns and shit to cap themselves out or devote guardians to cap them up. It's silly and only useful in WH space but it is a niche.
>>123978965
Its my cool storyline module now
Are you an actual legit BOSfag or in some rando pubbie corp they recruited?
>>123978541
Its funny because the loki completely neuted him out and we killed him in literally 3 seconds while his cheaper buddy https://zkillboard.com/kill/50452139/
lasted over 12 seconds
>>123980519
>the loki neuted him out
the loki had neuts? why?
>>123980817
what else would a covert loki with 7 blops behind him would need on his highs?
>>123980902
guns?
usually something like a curse or a legion does the neuting and shit since it gets an amount bonus
>>123981084
As far as I know he never had a use for the guns to shoot small tackle and since he is brick tanked and using covert module his dps is shit tier, hes also not even gonna be able to fit all the hardpoints because cloak and cyno.
So you're looking at like 200dps with 220s.
The guns don't help secure the tackle, the neuts do and once the BLOPS land you will have all the dps in the world plus cancerous Widow ECM and full Sin neuts.
>>123980902
Obviously a cyno generator.
>>123981704
Gee I wouldn't have thought about that anon Thanks!
>black ops
>it's not to promote the book
>but it is to promote the book
Haven't played since September 2014 what have I missed?
>test is literally the lowest level of goon pets
wew
>>123971801
List ships that are not viable
>>123986483
Drama. Game's still breddy fun though.
>>123986483
Fooziesov
Matini on suicide watch because his kikestarter didn't work out.
Various other TWEAKS by foozie
oh and some new ships in the next patch,
>>123987195
punisher, assault frigates, nestor
>>123987369
>>punisher, assault frigates, nestor
Nestor has a meme use.
Right about AFs
Punisher is OP and needs nerfs.
>>123987659
nestor has no uses outside of those super fucking niche WH fits that people chain off of, it has the worse repair per gj ever, worse than the frigate logi
>Punisher is OP and needs nerfs
nice sarcasm
>>123987959
Yeah it's used as a subcap reffiting station
That's going to be gone soon but w/e.
>>123987959
nullbabby pls. nestor is for refitting
>>123988071
>gone
no, just 60 seconds
>>123988071
>nestor is refitting
thats going away anon
everyone will have to deagress to refit which is dumb and arbitrary. It means that the person shooting has to deagress, the nestor itself has to deagress. Its mindless, arbitrary and made up nerf and there was never a problem with refitting before at all ever
>>123988310
It was for carrier blobbing. Because riot couldn't JUST remove the repping bounses they had to remove refitting too.
>>123988310
>arbitrary and made up nerf
as opposed to what
>there was never a problem with refitting
are you for real, only a wormhole resident could be this retarded
>>123988476
>as opposed to what
the way it is now? completely fine?
No one ever bitched about how refitting was OP, but CCP just wants to touch it because they can?
Things like trading Triage is going away
they want to stop the slowcat bullshit but thats one extremely niche use of like 10 carriers. So instead of fixing slowcats (which they already did by taking away triage and remote reps) they punish literally everything
>>123988643
>no one ever bitched
and that means it's ok, right
>slowcats
>niche
wat
>they punish literally everything
what, do you do combat refitting all the time
>>123988778
>and that means it's ok, right
if it ain't broke don't fix it
>slowcats
>not niche
oh please the only fuckers to do this were goons
They want to punish everything that uses a combat refit instead of just the problem of slowcats
so doing a combat refit on your fleet, your ship, or your triage fax machine? oh fuck you because slowcats are OP
>>123988958
here's an idea, they're nerfing combat refitting because it's fucking gay
honestly I think the nerfs don't go far enough if it's just weapons timer
Triage had nothing to do with slowcats what are you on.
>>123989121
>here's an idea, they're nerfing combat refitting because it's fucking gay
you only say this because you got killed by a slowcat.
>>123989161
No one said that faggot, triage swapping refit off each other for cap and tank fits so they could time each other going back and forth because otherwise its a suicide triage
being forced to wait 60 seconds to refit for swapping triage for cap and tank ruins triage ships and I fully assume the fax machines are gonna suffer from the same shit
there is literally nothing wrong with refitting in space
>>123989352
no, I'm saying this as someone who takes part in ridiculous combat refitting fleets all the time
Combat refitting on any ships, capital on capital, subcap on nestor, was inherently interesting gameplay
>>123977525
>>123978541
You'd be surprised how much a cap battery does now
if you can get a large on a cruiser you're almost guaranteed to be stable
>>123991708
yeah except fitting a medium cap booster is way better for actual things, and a cap recharger is probably almost as good for frivilous shit like pve
>>123990690
this desu sempai
>>123992035
Its niche but really nice
also no
a LCB is almost always better than a recharger on a cruiser
the neut reflect is dank as fuck too
What the fuck is with the talking you hear in the game's background music sometimes?
>>123996345
station interior? exterior? npc ship chatter?
Newbro here. Are webifiers always a good idea to fit if I have an empty mid slot? Doing advanced military career missions now.
>>123997345
yes
>>123997345
highly dependent on ship and what you're doing.
Join All Out for dank PI, you can never have too many Neocoms
>>123997408
>>123997897
Going to be killing career mission NPCs. Should I fit as much firepower as I can (another LEB?)? Does it matter what ammo I use? What's good/bad about this fit?
Please be gentle, I can't into combat's underlying mechanics.
>>123998173
fit an enam or something
Something like this maybe
[Atron, Solo Scram Web DPS]
Damage Control I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Small Capacitor Booster I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Light Ion Blaster I
Light Ion Blaster I
Light Ion Blaster I
[Empty High slot]
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I
use antimatter always
replace the meta0 with highest meta you can afford
size down on the guns if you can't fit ions
Consider getting a destroyer, or doing the mission that gives you one, will make those missions much faster.
>>123998173
fit 3 guns. you're in a turret ship, fit as many turrets as you can.
maybe consider using railguns instead of blasters if you want more range. use antimatter if you use blasters, use range-appropriate ammo if you're using railguns.
try to be at the range where you can hit your target. you might miss if you're going too fast around your target - if you use railguns and you get right up close you might miss.
maybe fit a cap recharger in your last midslot. I'd change your lows I think. keep the small armor repairer, then fit 2 adaptive nano platings. there's a bunch of stuff you want - speed, armor resists, damage, capacitor. there are modules for all of these, so if it you don't need as much tank, you can swap an adaptive nano plating for a capacitor power relay, a magnetic field stab or the overdrive you've already got.
>>123998883
>ancillary armor repairer
>small capacitor booster
m8 pls, he's doing rookie shit
>>123998985
>m8 pls, he's doing rookie shit
might as well learn repping and managing his cap/cycles while doing rookie shit
he can drop the cap booster and grab a scram and hes pretty much ready for some pvp
>>123998731
>>123998883
>>123998985
Thanks for the suggestions everyone!
>>123998985
>>123999284
Yeah I'm aiming to also learn why I fit all these things so I can learn for when I move onto pvp. I can figure out the more obvious stuff (ie "fit for what your ship's good at), but why would I use only antimatter for blasters for example?
>>123999525
>but why would I use only antimatter for blasters for example?
anti-matter is the highest non T2 damage ammo for hybrids, but they have a range negative bonus so since blasters are already short range in your face high tracking the anti-matter fits perfectly.
Once you can use T2 ammo Void becomes the even closer in your face highest damage ammo.
>>123999525
ok this is a poor game design thing, but here goes.
all T1 ammo, so for hybrids that's antimatter, plutonium, uranium, etc. has no bonuses or penalties to accuracy falloff, only optimal range. blasters, a high component of their effective range is accuracy falloff. so it's not really ever worth it to trade damage for optimal range, because you don't get much.
some T2 ammos have falloff bonuses, so because CCP is bad, you can get more range on your blasters by using null ammo, but you need T2 blasters to use it.
railguns on the other hand are mostly optimal, so if you want to hit further away, you can load up a longer range ammo, and you'll get a nice big range extension for your damage reduction.
also remember bigger tier guns have more range, so electrons have crappier range than ions, which have crappier range than neutrons.
>>123999874
Hence why I fit blasters on an Atron, since it's made for tackling (which is in-your-face combat/disruption, right?).
>>123999915
Yeah okay, that makes some amount of sense.
So, blasters are made for close-range combat and allow you to fly at high speed (they have good tracking), whereas railguns have comparatively huge range (but terrible tracking) making them better for sitting at a distance while shooting.
Is that correct? Are there other types of guns, like an in-between or sniper guns or something?
>>124000671
you're correct.
you'll find that the other turret types are between blasters and railguns. blasters are the extreme short range, railguns are the extreme long range. each turret's tracking stat is sort of tied to its range, so longer turrets get less tracking.
amarr use lasers, there are pulse lasers and beam lasers. pulse lasers are the longest range short range weapon with the worst tracking. beam lasers are the shortest range long range weapon with the best tracking. they're sort of similar. they're about as optimal focused as railguns, they don't care about falloff.
minmatar use projectiles, they're a bit weird, they have a lot of falloff and fairly weak dps. minmatar are sort of all about versatility. their turrets use no capacitor, and they can use different damage types, whereas hybrids are always kinetic and thermal, and lasers are always EM and thermal. projectile dps is just a bit weak to compensate though.
>>124000671
There is no in-between. Only the various ranges on various ammo. So you can chill at 70+km even with a small ship and snipe shit.
>>124001783
>>124001204
Do the weapon types have their own specific niches in real pvp combat, or is it just a rock-paper-scissors type of deal where you win if you out-range or out-speed while still doing dps? A yes/no answer would suffice, I'll find out the details eventually.
I assume all this also goes for combat drones (which I still haven't seen much of)?
Thanks so much for the good info, dogs!
>>124000671
>Hence why I fit blasters on an Atron, since it's made for tackling (which is in-your-face combat/disruption, right?).
yes and no, tackling stuff close range that is bigger or better than yours might get you killed if he has webs/scrams, the best way to tackle this stuff is to stay outside his web/scram range and just use a long point (warp disruptor) and wait for other people to help you kill it, even if you won't be doing any damage
>Are there other types of guns, like an in-between or sniper guns or something?
For hybrids thats it, there is T2 ammo that will allow you to snipe (Spike on rails)
For projectiles Autocannons are the short range, they have really long falloff ranges and tiny optimals, Artillery is the long range, it has also short optimal but a ton of falloff and they are the highest alpha weapon type in the game.
For lasers Pulses are the short range, they behave like hybrids with good optimals and and short falloff, Beams are the long range same story, lasers use a ton of cap per cycle, their upside is their superior optimal range and instant ammo switch(no reload) ever..
For missiles you have rockets as short range and light missiles as long range, then rapid variants are exactly like lights but they cycle crazy fast with a very long reload cycle as their downside.
Then there is Heavy missiles as the long range and heavy assault as short range, there is also a rapid heavy variant.
Missiles have no falloff, they are pure optimal, instead their important stats are explosion velocity and explosion radius, as a general rule, they will apply full dmg to anything inside their optimal and relative ship size, best way to mitigate missile damage is to go faster but you are never fast enough.
>>124002052
they have things they are better or worse at, but it's not like beam lasers and railguns are totally different in some really important way.
range is the most important difference between them. tracking has some significance, but it becomes less important in bigger fights, and it's pretty easy to hit things you aren't really supposed to hit by just being in a fairly mobile ship with a couple of webs.
I can tell you about missiles or drones if you like, but it's a another whole thing, it's probably easier to find a guide.
>>124002052
Blasters are the "Imma smash you in the face" thing and for sieging on dreads. Rails are usually gay sniping shit.
If you use hybrids, you might later want to check some caldari ships that use them too, but they use shields tho.And they look better.
>>124002052
>or is it just a rock-paper-scissors type of deal
I think this "guide" is good at explaining this some has changed but its still explains the gist of it, ignore the autism.
http://pastebin.com/W0uUpzbT
>>124002835
>brawler means afterburner
>mwd brawlers aren't even worth mentioning
fw pls
>>124002453
>>124002484
>>124002650
>>124002835
This has been super helpful, thanks a bunch! I'll probably look up some resources soon, but for now I'll have a whole lot to sleep on.
>omber getting buffed
based fozzie.
he looks after us after all!
>Gallente
>
Arigatou rogue drone-chan :3
>>124008365
>Cormorant Guristas SKIN (30 Days)
Holy shit! Congratulations, anon!
>corax
>>124009087
That's not a drop. And they are only like a 1M on the market.
>>124010343
>like a 1M
You're like an EVE millionaire now. Think of all the nice things you can buy.
>>124011732
But I bought it because I want to crostrain a cormorant just because of the skin.
>>124003419
because if you're "brawling" in a "brawl ship" using a MWD, chances are you're slow as fuck
https://zkillboard.com/kill/50448525/
Kek.
Also does anyone know what are the FETID alliance? Faggots are camping my farm lowsec cluster.
>>124012240
why, because you think 'brawl ship' means slow piece of shit?
>>124012363
what do you mean what are they? they're a bunch of fags.
>>124012404
because all the ships that are designated brawlers are inherently slow
overheating damage control
>>124012894
this is pointless. I'm flying a ship with a mwd a web and a scram, am I kiting or am I brawling.
>>124013585
If its a web scram you're going to brawl
but some ships brawl better inherently than others, you wouldn't brawl with a condor would you?
>>124013554
>so now they write fanfic to boost their self-esteem rather than take action
>>124013554
>>124013657
but that's wrong
you think velocity has no use in a brawl?
>>124014136
Its not, you wouldn't brawl in a condor because its not a brawling ship
you wouldn't brawl in an executioner
the fact is that designated brawling ships like merlins, incursus and punisher brawl better
just because you put a MWD on a brawling ship doesn't magically make it a kiting ship, the punisher will never be a kiter, its too slow
>>124014610
you have dumb ideas about shit
fast brawlers dictate range on slow brawlers and run away when they're losing. if they're mwd fitted they run down kitescum. it's situational. they aren't worse. attack frigates are not kiting ships.
>>124014756
and those "fast brawlers" die because they can't brawl because they don't have the tank or damage.
>>124014838
it's situational. sometimes they can even be more survivable than a slower brawler because they can mitigate damage better.
>>124014978
>situational
more like niche
you aren't going to mitigate any damage on the frigate level at those low speeds with scrams and webs the best you're ever going to do is using a TD but at those short ranges you still aren't going to out brawl a real brawl ship purely because the real brawl ship puts out more damage and has more tank
you can't bring a condor or any other tackle frigate against a merlin, incursus, or punisher as a brawl fit
>>124015284
right because you're imagining a frigate 1v1
and yeah I can, I engage your merlin, then if you have ion or electron blasters or no web I kill you, if you have rails or neutron blasters I run away
>>124015479
>right because you're imagining a frigate 1v1
what else does the implication facilitate?
You bring your pseudo brawl tackle frigate to a fleet fight? you're just gonna get blapped because you're not gonna be able to hold range and keep point.
>I can engage it
>inb4 null
your situation is shit, you can't kill an incursus or a merlin with some rocket MWD condor set up for brawl. You're just gonna melt to his AB and you won't be able to escape
>>124015479
>MWD
>scram
>web
against
>AB
>scram
>web
>I'm gonna win or I just leave
no you won't stop making shit up
>>124015763
well yes if I fit a mwd to his ab I'll die. that's your situation, you're shit.
if I'm flying a silly afterburner shitfit against their silly afterburner shitfit, there's no reason why I can't go around testing for shitfits then disengaging.
if we're talking mwd fits, the speed advantage of the attack frigate should be obvious even for someone retarded like you - it can burn back to gates faster, catch shit more easily.
I don't know how you can say such retarded things as 'brawling ships are all slow combat ships with afterburners, all attack ships are kiting ships'. where you even get ideas like this from is beyond me.
>>124016130
biomass irl
>>124016382
>well yes if I fit a mwd to his ab I'll die. that's your situation, you're shit.
you situation is niche and never happens, an AB brawl merlin that doesn't bring scram and web? are you dumb? MSE, Scram, Web, AB Anything thats not a prop, scram, and web on a merlin is a shit fit save for those specific fits involving dual ASB's but I never see those anymore since the beam tormentor buff
your fit is so out of the ordinary you are literally ensuring your death to everything that isn't your specific and hypothetical situation.
Post your KB with all these gimp fit tackle ships set for brawl.
>>124016602
>is a shit fit
uh yes if you're only talking about novice 1v1s
I don't care what merlin fit you think is the best. you can make a scram kitey attack frigate with equivalent range control.
>>124016787
>uh yes if you're only talking about novice 1v1s
Yes in any case, you're relying only on your opponent being just as shit fit as yours
you are purposely relying on the opponent being bad instead of minmaxing your tackle fit as a kiter which it EXCELS at.
>>124016934
a condor maybe, because light missiles are so broken, but are you going to claim the other 3 attack frigates are kiters too?
>>124017465
I didn't call them kiters, I said if a tackle frig like an atron, executioner, or condor tries to brawl with another brawler its going to die so stupidly easy because it doesn't have the DPS nor tank
>>124017593
it'll die if it doesn't have range control. if it is fitted with the same prop and tackle modules it will have range control and will be able to escape if given time
>>124018457
>it'll die if it doesn't have range control
it doesn't have any, the brawler has better range control because its already scrammed you with your MWD
You won't escape against an AB brawler which is how they're all fit
>>124013554
Mittens talking about fanfics is kind of ironic
>>124018661
we already went through this
not all ab brawlers are combat frigates, not all mwd brawlers are attack frigates. either can fit either. you're used to seeing everyone using ab because you're in fw.
>>124019084
post your KB of your gimped tackle frig set for brawl killing other brawlers
>>124019121
post your KB of you learning to read and not being an obtuse faggot
>>124020145
>my hyper niche and stupid hypothetical set up isn't stupid despite having absolutely no support for it and Ill win purely and only because the other guy is shit fit
>>124020365
>attack frigates can't brawl because I've decided they all fit mwds and my slower frigates all fit afterburners
>>124020773
You genuinely think that a condor set up for brawl can win against a merlin because of your made up notion that it has range control despite losing all speed when it begins its brawl
>>124020972
because of your made up notion that it has a microwarpdrive and the merlin has an afterburner
>>124021256
You literally said you'd put a MWD on a non brawl ship and attempt to brawl with it
>>124021317
because I do things other than fw novice plexes
>>124021383
>I do other things
>like die in shitfits
>>124021596
yeah bring your ab merlin to null you'll do great
>>124021969
You still think you can brawl with a condor, but you refuse to believe you lose your speed and "range control" when your MWD is disabled
>>124022039
but I don't have a mwd
>>124022702
not when I'm in afterburner merlin space attempting to fight afterburner merlins. if I'm in nullsec trying to trash interceptors and run away then I do.
>>124023195
then you're just brawling in a brawl ship against another brawling brawl ship. and then it doesn't fucking matter because your entire argument moved from "I use a MWD scram web on a non-brawling ship to engage another brawler because I think I have range control when really I have none" to "I'm trying to trash interceptors"
you will never trash or catch an interceptor, its way more agile, fuck loads faster
>>124023481
attack frigates are not 'non-brawling ships'
brawling doesn't mean afterburners
frigate combat doesn't mean afterburners
I do kill interceptors all day, and no I'm not linking any killboards because it's irrelevant
>>124024158
holy fuck you're autistic and can't read
>I do kill interceptors
post kb and killmails then faggot
>NO I"M NOT LINKING IT BECAUSE I DON"T WANNA NOT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE PROOF
high claims require proof faggot
>>124024265
actually you claimed that I can't kill interceptors first, so you should post some proofyou're fucking retarded if you think this is how conversations work
>>124024797
I used objective proof that an interceptor was faster and more agile than your T1 frigate therefore you couldn't catch it which is 100% true
you prove you can kill interceptors
you're fucking retarded if you think a lower speed can catch a higher speed
>>124025445
>you're fucking retarded if you think a lower speed can catch a higher speed
Thats what I keep saying but people still do it, you niggers keep forgetting that everyone playing this game sucks ass.
>>124025445
actually interceptors are less agile
you're fucking retarded if you think a very slightly faster 0 dps kite ship can indefinitely keep a mwd brawler inside interceptor point range but out of attack frigate raping interceptors scram range
>>124025803
>actually interceptors are less agile
no they aren't a merlin aligns in 3.36 seconds a stiletto aligns in 3.31 seconds
>very slightly faster
>merlin with a T2 MWD: 2863
>stilleto with a T2 MWD: 3987
>SLIGHTLY FASTER
>>124026021
>a merlin
I'm not the one flying a merlin you shitter, attack frigates.
>>124026245
First you said "no I'm not using a MWD" even though you did (and implied) here >>124018457
>>124016787
>>124016382
plus numerous other places
then you said "No I'm using an AB" here >>124023195
and then you think a slower T1 frigate will catch an interceptor that is FAR faster
>>124025803
and then you said a brawling ship, which a merlin is
but then if you disagree with that you're a retard who will default to "nut uh I'm using this shit fit "brawling" condor or some retarded nigger trash
>>124026245
>"attack frigates" meme
>tormentor speed with a T2 MWD: 2953
>stiletto speed with a T2 MWD: 3987
sup dog
which corp should i join for gudfites and not blobbing the shit out of people
preferably wh based with low/null roamdont say all-out they are big noober and mainly fly t1
>condor with a T2 MWD: 3488
>Stiletto speed with a T2 MWD: 3987
>SLIGHT
>>124027103
Waffles
>>124026816
why is this so difficult for you anon
if I'm in lowsec brawling frigates in an attack frigate (which would be a thing you could do if people didn't just all fly navy frigates all the time), I'm afterburner fitted, and I will have range control against afterburner combat frigates because you have to have that or you die because combat frigates have way more tank.
I'm sure you'll take this post to mean that I said something that doesn't make sense and contradicts something else I said earlier when trying to explain things to you or something, and then go on to say some other dumb shit about how you think slashers have to be kiting fitted because they go fast
>>124027113
>condor, the slowest attack frigate
>stiletto, the fastest tackle interceptor
but yeah I could still kill one with that speed difference, pretty easy desu. prefer atrons though.
>>124027763
>but yeah I could still kill one with that speed difference
>I'm doing 190mph and I can catch that other guy going 220mph!
thats literally you
>I CAN CATCH SHIT THATS FASTER THAN ME
>>124027856
I love how you're greentext memeing at me like I have no idea what I'm talking about, but actually you're revealing that you're a massive scrub.
am I going to have to link you some pvp tutorial videos or something?
>>124027763
>but yeah I could still kill one with that speed difference
>I can catch ships that are physically traveling faster than me
post KB and prove it
>>124027998
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
You literally think you can catch things that are faster than you
1 is not greater than 2 stupid ass
>>124028010
>>124028171
I found this video to explain some things to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEFjy3gdPJg
I hope you guys can get good soon
>>124028740
slingshotting only works on orbitting shitters
you will never catch a ship that is faster than you
>>124028872
yeah if you fly away from me at full speed forever I can't catch up, amazing tactics there anon
>>124028998
You will never catch people who manually pilot, stop back pedaling and shifting the goalposts you're just a retarded stupid ass shitter who makes all this scrupulous shit up and won't post the KB to prove any of it
>>124029093
I'd love to hear how you think me linking a character's page on zkill will prove something
>bad pedaling
>shifting the goalposts
I haven't done either of those things at all
>>124029480
it will prove your claim you can kill interceptors in some bullshit T1 MWD brawl fit crap
>>124029567
what if the victims were afk or just awful?
what if I had links and snakes?
how do you even know the character is me?
>>124029480
>I haven't done either of those things at all
>I use a MWD on my brawl fit
>I can brawl against the other brawl ships but only if he's shit fit
>No I'm not using a MWD I'm using an AB
>"attack frigate"
>No I really catch interceptors
>I am faster than interceptors despite being physically slower
>also interceptors align slower :^)
>umm I sling shot, even though that only works against orbitters
>but I won't post my KB to prove all my worth
>>124029657
>I'm not shifting the goal posts
>but my KB won't prove anything because I seem to only shoot shitters and AFK-retards
>>124029745
that's not shifting the goalposts, that's you being retarded and me having to explain shit to you, and it taking a lot of posts because you're such a really big obtuse retard
and you can slingshot people who manually pilot, it's pretty much exactly the same. it's a thing that takes skill. the kitefags have an easier time of it obviously because ccp keeps buffing long range weapons and making overpowered long range ships, and you can just fit like 3 speed mods if you like when you're kiting, sure, but it's still sort of a contest of skill, and unless you way outspeed me even when I'm overheating and you aren't overheating, or you're in a garmur, it is possible. the only way to be immune to being caught is to let the target escape point range or cheat (garmur and/or links and/or faction)
>>124030109
>explain shit
no you're being a retard and you're back pedaling so hard you could power a small african village
>>124030184
no, that's you. if I say something, and then you don't understand it, so I have to follow it up with more explanation for you, that's not backpedalling. if you decide that my first post is a really different thing to my second post, that's you misinterpreting it or being a retard.
Jesus fuck started all this shitposting by linking that shitty guide I'm sorry dog
>>124032097
People should join All-Out's slack.
>1 week until punisher nerf
ded
>>124013554
so mittens wasn't fighting anyone because he was making money and now he's fighting people because he needs to make money?
Right and the response to this is let's not fight???
Fuck me this game is beyond dead.
>>124045472
>Fuck me this game is beyond dead.
Which was also his objective, by the way. There are a finite number of goons. If the game is big enough that they become a minority, they'll lose. He needed to make the game so unfun that growth stopped, so the goons' empire could stay intact.
Through a careful campaign of ganking miners FOR teh LULZ, and other everyday joes just trying to get some pocket change for frigate PvP, dividing the game's playerbase and pushing the idea that the only real way to play is as a goon ratvassal, he's succeeded.
so when are goons going to disband i dont keep up with k-space politics, i just shoot spaceships
>>124045832
jesus christ this is some next level tinfoil shit
>I am so elite and le aloof wormholer *tips scanning alt*
>>124048295
suck my citadel torpedo
>>124049076
You'd have to actually pvp for that to happen.
>7 Asteros, 1 Stratios in one night
Literally wtf is going on. Fucking rogue drones.
>>124030369
>I say retarded shit
>why does everyone think I'm wrong and that I don't make sense?
Does smaller signature reduce incoming damage or just a chance to hit?
>>124053360
chance to hit
>>124053360
it reduces damage from missiles and bombs sometimes
let's post our most epic EVE trolls
>be me in FW plex
>see svipul on short range
>convo him "lol I have faction mods come get some"
>he kills me
>lol trolled I didn't have faction mods at all
>>124053980
I've done something similar but in my case it allowed me to land scramble on a orthrus and killed it on a memefit armor Munnin.
>>124053980
thats just a waste of time, no one carries Faction mods in the plex
>put 300 mil of adavnced drones on sale in FW market
>tfw I constantly see my wallet icon flashing
http://subvert.pw/s/
>>124054160
>meme fit
what the fuck does this even mean?
>>124054160
If you have officer mods making bait KMs is really effective actually.
Just undock if safe system or go to safe with officer neut/point and kill a ship for insurance or whatever and hope the officer module shows on the KM and then go link it around on the same ship.
Voila
>>124054383
thats a huge ass waste of money
>>124053536
>>124053649
So Halo implants are useless unless I fly some fast shit?
>>124055713
usually something small, halo implants stop mattering at the destroyer ish level where you can still create a good speed tank
>>124055713
halos on a fessor are fucking amazing
then do drugs to get it smaller
add boosts
THEN fight in a WR
enjoy 6 Signature.
What if ewar had tracking?
>>124056739
it does to an extent
the farther you are into fall off the more likely your ewar will "miss"
>>124056809
eh
its just the same formula for application in turret falloff
50% at peak falloff
>>124056460
youd have to be pretty dumb to fight a fessor in a wr no matter the circumstances.
>>124056972
>>124053980
>be me in wspace corp
>mercs coming to evict us
>convo them "matherfucker i fuck your family"
>they evict us
>lol trolled I didn't mean any of what I wrote
how do I find lowsec gatecamps?
I want to crash them
>>124008365
Would you recommend buying large containers for sorting stuff?
>>124060140
You mean you don't have them? How do you look for anything in a pile of unsorted shit?
>>124059198
just check dotlan for most active systems
or look around lowsec group staging systems
>>124060503
I try to do the best I can with the game-provided sorting. Guess it's time to invest then.
could this work?
>>124060746
>invest
m8 pls, it'S cheap stuff. And it's not a large container, if you mean the ones you can anchor in space. It's called station container.
>>124061235
Didn't even know those existed. Neat!
>>124060805
No.
>>124061632
why not?
>>124061846
better ships exist to fill that role
you also have no tackle
>>124062040
which ships?
also, tacklers enter later
>>124062156
Sleipnir
>tackle enters later
enjoy tackling nothing
>>124062332
I think there is less surprise with sleipnirs
>>124062576
yeah but unlike the rohk, its can move, tackle, and kill shit
>>124059198
There's been 2 augurors an ashimmu a daredevil and a slasher camping agoze gat ein ostingele off and on for weeks now.
i fit up a neuting yolo phoon to go shit on their chests but they split.
>>124059198
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>>124065412
bait them with a max buffer drake/proph and counterdrop
>>124065671
wow, I am famous
Anyone wants to buddy me up? With the caveat that I most likely won't subscribe. I just want to check shit out.
>>124067519
You can get the 30 day trial even without buddy invite. Just sign-up.
>>124067593
On existing account?
>>124053980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdcG1qMzVfo
why is the gnosis more popular for gatecamps than other BCs?
I dont really see how it has an advantage
>>124068209
higher scan reso than other BCs
>>124068209
Six midslots.
>>124068968
>>124068948
thanks
I'm bad at this, how do I find out my ideal orbit distance?
my primary concern is tanking, not my optimal range for dps
>>124069586
first of all, add angular velocity to your overview columns (not transversal, dont let retards confuse you), higher angular is better
the tighter you orbit somthing, the harder you are to track
the faster you can move while maintaining that orbit therefore also increases your angular velocity
turning rate is affected by agility and mass
most rats have pretty shit tracking, theres some third party websites that have data on npc stats but theyre mostly reverse engineered from ingame
if your only goal is transversal tanking, 500m orbit and top speed is 'ideal' however thats also probably overkill in alot of situations and going to negatively affect your own damage application
>>124069830
>your own damage application
no worries, I use missiles because I am bad
>>124070000
maybe i should also mention if you hit 'orbit at 500' on everything youll probably spend more time burning towards shit and having low angular than you will orbiting and maintaining high angular, especially on things with shit tracking to begin with
like if youre flying an AB tengu you can speed tank sleeper BS at 15-20 ez
>>124070000
quads confirm missiles are for bads
>page 10
>>123897283
Man I like this game. I've been wanting to get into it again and again, but the friend of mine who got me in is gone, so I've given in. Second time I tried, I was trying to get into Dreddit (because if you have a T-rex for a symbol you're alright in my book), but I gassed out waiting for them to be happy with a 45 day old active reddit account when I couldn't give a shit about that website to save my life.
what if different damage types had different proxy effects like:
thermal sets your structure on fire so it loses HP slowly until put out or adds heat to modules
EM knocks one module offline randomly for 5 seconds
Explosive adds AOE dmg
Kinetic bumps you in opposite direction slightly
>>124070889
I think missiles are pretty cool. If you want immediate DPS, they're pretty bad, but missile barrages against stuff like support ships and slow-ass motherfuckers isn't that big of a deal, probably gives you an advantage too.
>>124077436
>>124077807
What have I done to disappoint you, Will Smith?
>>124077653
shit's gay
>>124012363
>average Orthrus fit
>battleclinic finally dying
>>124062332
needs more cynos
>Amarr
>>124081664
>t2 armor rigs
too expensive for baiting
>>124085451
who says I'll be dying?
did you guys ever encounter retarded grids?
today I flew around one station and one edge of the grid was like 130km from it but as I kept flying in a circle, the grid came back at 230km
>>124085858
a couple of us in navy cruisers fought small (I think it was gorgon gang, but might be someone else in gorgon space) on the border of 2 grids. it was insane, ships disappearing but being 3km off you, drones disconnecting while orbiting targets, everyone dropping lock on everyone else, fucking hilarious.
>1m 13s
new /dog/ content
>>124088291
>svipul tries to tackle an orthrus
>>124065748
>sexual deviance
That'd do the world some good.
>run some anoms in home system
>most escalate
>run all those DEDs
>get dank loot
>gotta make 40 jumps to Jita, half through null/low
>mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAhFtSc70BA
>>124086892
You realize 7 heavy neuts for 1m 13s is enough to neut even carriers dry right?
>>124093304
>on an unbonused ship
I posted that pic but damn, son
After watching LOGH, I'm starting to feel like playing EVE Online again. However, I remember the game not being that fun where there's barely any fun in the combat where you just press some buttons and watch your ship's laser beams. Also with it being based on how much time you were subscribed thus how much skill points you accumulated.
What do you find fun about the game anons? The main thing I dislike about the game is the combat mechanics being so boring.
>>124093304
until it gains its cap back or blows you up
1 minute in a battleship isn't much to brag about since battleships last way longer than that
>>124093638
To achieve LoGH feels, it is absolutely necessary to play with other players. Join a good corp.
Also, the combat is only bad in PVE. It's very interesting in PVP as there's more depth to it.
>>124093638
this is because you only do pve, where you come in and some things sit there and let you kill them. 90% of the fight in pvp happens before the fight. the mind games and risk management is what makes it fun.
>>124093812
>cyno
you do realize that cap life doesn't matter cause as soon as that cyno pops in comes free cap and free reps, not to mention some 50k DPS+
>Aeon
>>124093842
>>124093838
But isn't it hard to make up ISK for your lost ships?
>>124093538
Okay slight exaggeration, it would take 4 of those and a little bit of help from the carrier (a cycle or two of reps or something) to empty it completely. Anyway the point is that cap is the least of your problems with that fit.
>>124094265
if you're unsuccessful it is, yes. most people resort to doing some kind of non-pvp moneymaking activity to compensate for their inefficiency in pvp.
the fact that losses actually matter is one of those important things that everybody likes. there's shit at stake, so you are invested in the outcome.
>>124093812
>until it gains its cap back or blows you up
After a carrier is dry you only have to drain it occassionally to keep it at 0, with one of your neuts. They have fuck all cap regen when they're at 0.
>>124094365
So then you have to grind boringly 10x amount of time compared to when PVPing to make up the ISK in order to PVP?
>>124094559
no, that's if you want to insist on flying expensive ships and being terrible. a lot of people do that, but it doesn't mean they have to. they're just fucking retarded.
>>124094365
I would recommend a mixture of both if you have enough time. Hone your skills while keeping yourself financially afloat.
>>124094675
How do you make ISK normally? How did you find your corp?
>>124094559
Look man.
I am loading up an episode of a TV show right now. By the time I finish watching it, 100 million isk will have appeared in my wallet. That's enough for a PVP fit battlecruiser or faction cruiser.
All you have to do is git gud.
>>124094953
>I am loading up an episode of a TV show right now.
You can't just enjoy the game without watching a TV show at the same? This is what I mean by grinding being a chore and waste of time.
>>124095458
But it wastes no time as I was going to watch muh shows anyway, and I guess you could argue that starting up the game is a chore.
Yes PvE in EvE is complete garbage, this isn't news to anyone. But it's also not as big of a hurdle as you're making it seem, at least given that you have decent skills and game knowledge.
For new players making money is pretty dreadful though.
>>124095782
>he doesn't profit from PVP to fund his further PVP and better ships
>>124095458
You can do things, it's just if you're doing low-interactivity stuff like mining it's cool to have something else going on in the background.
>>124094939
I've not made any isk in years, I am just efficient at killing people that I can do it without having to get money elsewhere
I find my corp by flying around killing people, then chatting and joining some of the people I killed because they were decent guys
Is it possible to have a free trial for a returning character/member?
>>124097165
this isn't wow kiddo
>>124097165
sometimes ccp will email you free time or discounts if you're unsubbed
>>124097165
>for a returning character
No.
You could abuse Hours for PLEX, I guess. But that only lasts for 4 hours.
>>124097329
Its happened before, its quite rare though
getting to see shit like this is why I love crest and all this automation
https://zkillboard.com/kill/50475608/
>>124093071
>not WHing into highsec
>>123897283
ded as fuck
>>124101424
let's be honest here, the accounts per player hasn't changed, but since they started dicking around with capitals, the number of actual, real, tangible players has dropped greatly.
all this dumb talk of having small empires and localised everything in null is shite, and directly deconstructing player built systems.
>>124103680
how do you know this about players and accounts
what's wrong with that stuff about null?
Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
>>124104887
If you have to ask, you can't do it.
>>124104887
I got my trial and bought three months of game time a couple days later.
Almost three weeks into the game, I'd say I could've made enough if I had played more than an hour or two a day on average.
But really, grinding to be able to grind more isn't fun. Just pay for the first few months for a fun experience and getting settled, the cash'll probably flow soon enough.
>he doesn't even meme fit
>shield tanking
>tanking
>
Its shield systems are also state-of-the-art, rivalling even Caldari Prime's best
>>124106947Amarr shill pls go
>Revelation
>punisher nerf
>>124104792
there was a presentation at fanfest about accounts and # of alts.
for the last part of 4 years, eve has remained at an average of 1.5 accounts per player, unchanging through phoebe, aegis, the isboxer ban, etc.
>>124108220
I swore I read a devblog recently saying the amount of pvp going on hasn't changed, implying that all the drop has been from inconsequential faggots like pve people.
Mitten's Modified Damage Control
>>124109570
that fuck is that font
>>124109570
>guys, small alliances are actually paying us money, honest
>we're playing CK2
yeah, maybe while you're afk ratting in deklein lol
>>124108357
It said the amount of isk being destroyed wasn't much different than previous years. PvP numbers are obviously down because duh less people logged in literally means less people logged in.
>>124111229
so how are pvp numbers down if isk destroyed isn't down
>>124111365
Why would anyone play a dying game? Are you guys all masochists?
>>124112089is that you dror?
>>124111365
you a dumb nigga
>Sansha Victory SKIN
why would I want this? these ships are all ugly as fuck and also trash
>>124109739
http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/2/9835738/eve-online-war-mittani-goberius-kickstarter
http://pastebin.com/8VsFruTQ
It's normal on the site
>>124113175
An article about reddit drama thanks games "journalism". I hope mittens gets his kikestarter funded off this publicity and everyone involved kills themselves for the good of mankind.
>>124111229
>what are cyno alts
>what are trade alts
>what are hauling alts
number of people logged in stayed the same, people just stopped subbing alts cause fuck paying 1.2 bil for cynos, I'll just ask someone in alliance
>>124113727
>I'll just ask someone in alliance
have fun getting your JF ganked by a spy
>exactly one year ago
>peaking at 40k on a weekday
>today
>struggling to break 25k
don't worry guys it's just junk leaving the game!! super healthy!!
>>124114280
because of the iskboxer ban
>>124114280
Is there a point to you bringing this up constantly? Do you just want people to talk to you or something? Here is your pity reply.
>>124114223
>he has spies in alliance
we lad, how does it feel to be in RMT empire?
>>124114570
>my alliance is impervious to spies
you're delusional
If you're not lighting your own cynos, you're on par with killing yourself
>>124114707
yes, actually we don't have any spies, maybe you sholud re-evaluate your own alliance m8
>>124113727
>number of people logged in stayed the same
source
>>124114845
>we don't have any spies
you're literally retarded to think you have no spies
>>124114369
>sudden ban
>slow decline
anon
>>124114867
>>124114935
you can literally spot the point when they banned it and a literal cliff of a drop
>>124114919
>every alliance has to have spies
whatever bro, if you think this I'd talk to your CEO and leave ASAP
>>124114845
>This guy literally thinks he is immune to spies just because he checks the API
>>124115163
>I'm immune to spies because I think we have no spies even though I truly don't know I have no spies
My alliance has no spies but we only have like 24 humans
>>124115184
>>124115331
we've been doing our shit for 4 years now pretty much with same people, only one corp of around 10 people joined in and they all have been sorta blue with us for a while and have similar backstory. Plus we're not sov holders or in any way on the map and that's exactly how we like it.we do have spies in most large alliances for...purposes
Literally get yourself checked before you get your titan wrecked
>>124115013
haha you tricked me into showing that you're a retard by asking for any evidence of your absurd statement. well played faggtron.
>>124115593
>I'm impervious to spies because these 10 guys have been in the corp forever
>even though I completely underestimate spies
>>124115734
>I'm a 4chan corp member so every corp must be like tengoo
Yeah, dude, have fun with that.
>>124115910
>forgetting that EVE is literally spies
>>124116074
oh yes, spoopy
>tengoo
>all-out of cishet white men
>oruze losers
>tfw no strong meme brotherhood to join
rip tengoo
>>124118327
kaile pls all you do it shoot suspects in amarr
>highsec "pvp"
Is EVE fun if I only play it 2 hours at night after I play csgo?
>still no amarr nerf
>living in wspace
>not killing yourself
>>124123496
PI and industry is fun and doable with that time commitment.
>>124124602
But I guess joining a corp is out of question no?
>>124125372
do join a corp (pandemic horde,all-out, the game is pretty boring if you play aone. For the love of god don't go into mining and industry
>>124125710
That was my first mistake. I went into mining first, playing alone.
>>124125710
my main concern is that I'll be asked to dedicate way too much time
>Caldari
>>124125710
Who'll power EVE's economy if no one went into mining and industry?
there's no saving this game
>>124131676
>daily rolling averages
>not peaks or median values
>literally including the zero players at down time
>belt ratting in bombers
>>124131786
woah ur right /b/ro if you account for downtime the game totally isnt dying
>>124131786
>peak figures on a 23/7 MMO
what?
>>124125710
>>124123496
all-out fag here
I casually pvp and jew since life is so busy, an hour of jewing pays for three hours of roaming
i am also nootkin, and i play eve while waiting for csgo
>>124133236
>>124131676
Wow you posted it again!
Why do people respond to you?
Did you get anything for your corps secret santa, eog?
>>124134287
last year i gifted a deadspace eos
>caracal
>>124134287
Heres my present
r8 don't h8
I've never meet the dude and rokh smartbombing is all I found in his recent KM
>>124135019
also thats his shitfit, I just "upgraded it"
>>124135019
wow expensive, 8/8 m8
>EVE is a hardcore skill based sandbox game guys
>It's hardcore and skill based because the guy with more ISK wins 99% of the time! T3s being objectively better than anything else? Who cares lol
>It's a sandbox because you can do ANYTHING! Just train this for 30 days and this for 7 and oh god you don't want that it'll take 180, just stick with this that takes 60 and you can nullsec rat for your jewish boss once you finish all that up. Everyone who's paid sub fees longer than you does it 2-3x better though but thats okay its a sandbox trust me
>There's thousands of unique players waiting for you, including all 20 of the AFK mining bots this russian guy has, this jita station trader bot, this blob of f1 lemmings, and many more! Yes the game becomes unplayable once over 100 of them enter the same area but it's an MMO honest guys, please believe us.
>>124136827
Laying it on a bit thick. Did CCP Seagull rape your mother or something?
>>124136827
>mfw 15m sp
>mfw elite solo pvp
who needs sp?
>>124136827
>dumbdumb thinks the mastery certificates matter
lmao
>Dror
>>124137709
They're a list of all the skills that affect a ship, of course they matter. That means you need to spend 4 years training the proteus if you don't want other people to have advantages in it compared to you.
>>124138081
yeah i'm sure you're gonna need to train all those command skills
>>124138081
You are fucking dumb
the proteus like all T3C's has the ability to run multiple different configurations across multiple different facets
Mastery takes into account for all of these and most of them don't apply to any combat role what so ever. Many of the skills learned for this ship apply to ALL ships, for example the armor skills for the proteus apply to ALL armor ships, the gun skills for the proteus apply for ALL gun ships, same with the drones and what ever
you do not need master V in any ship to use it more effectively in any other facet.
Proteus even includes shield skills its fucking stupid because shield proteus's don't work at all ever
>>124138081
You can't use all the roles the proteus puts out at the same time
you can't use warfare links with the drones, guns, or cloaky or interdiction skills so stop your retardation
>>124138081
You realize that mastery skills have a huge bunch of skills that don't matter to the ship right? Did you really think that every skill mattered for that ship?
>>124138846
Sure you can, refits are an integral part of fighting these days.
>>124139147
Did you read?
>AT THE SAME TIME
What are you going to swap from a warfare link fit to a scanning cloaky fit to a drone fit to a heavy tanked blaster ship to a long range point rail fit?
you don't have the cargo space for all those sub systems let alone the mods and the mobile tractor unit you dumb fuck
>>124139147
>tfw you won't be able to refit without deagro-ing for 60 seconds
>>124139307
In a fleet you have plenty of room, people refit T3s all the time.
>>124139476
But not to all that shit you dumb fuck
the people who train for the proteus don't even train the warfare skills, they have dedicated alts for that
You don't even play the game
>>124137709
thats hes go to bait picture, ignore the no SP fags anon.
>>124138081
if you learn all that to mastery V you will also be learning to fly like 20 other ships to absolute perfection.
>>124139881
This, 95% of all those skills apply to virtually every other ship
>Goons losing to memecharials
Whew lads.
>>124136827
>T3s being objectively better than anything else?
kek no
>>124145287
You're right dude, T3s must be the overwhelmingly dominant fleet doctrine for no reason even despite their unique skill-loss-on-death penalty.
>>124145436
probably because people cant handle a doctrine with more than two ships
>>124144789
Worse
>goons loving snifflebox
>>124144789
are goons supposed to win against anyone that isnt HS carebears doing some shitty event?
>>124149208
thats what goons would like to think
probably why they have no SRP for fleets that go into whspace and public declare 'we dont do lowsec'
>>124151593
I used to think that the rest of the players should unite against them and fight
but now I think its better to just act like them and bore them to death
>>124151812
>but now I think its better to just act like them and bore them to death
Well it's pointless to try and "beat" them. Just farm them.
>>124151593
>probably why they have no SRP for fleets that go into whspace and public declare 'we dont do lowsec'
they really dont have SRP for everything?
arent they filthy rich? what the fuck do they spend their ISK on?
every eve player should dock in jita and become a pro jita whore, fuck the goons
>>124154772
>>124154886
paying for shitty writers cant cost that much
its fucking 15%
15%
5
%
>>124155594
Various RMT enterprises. Fat fucking cash for the Mittani. Lives a life without even having to play EVE, just interact with the autists once a month or so, give a speech about the "enemy" and how you're gonna rape them to death. BAM easy life, go fuck off to yoga class, or jerk off all day, easy living.
We need Kevin back.
>>124132917
because averages are not accurate, the medium would be superior and more accurate
>>124144789
>Rail MWD prots
>Being anywhere near autocannon AB machs and lokis
UNAUTHORIZED PEE VEE PEE EFF CEEE
>>124157241
Them guardian fits tho
>not playing the market game
>playing
>game
>EVE online
>>123908251
this right here is the real most powerful fraction
can anyone recommend me a good pirate lowsec corp?
>tfw bought my first bling
>>124163570
why lowsec
>>124163570
Blue oyster
>>124166894
cause he's a faggot
>>124167078
I didnt ask you
>>124167189
too bad sunshine
>>124167319
ex dee
>>124167364
E C K S D
>>124166894
because I don't want to commit to much time for a 0.0 corp at the moment, just some gatecamps, small gang roams etc
>>124120091
i dont post here retard
go back to being shit at game
why is the /v/ bros channel always fucking DEAD.
>>124125710
Mining is fun, even alone as long as its wormhole ninja gas huffing. You'll make enough isk that by the time you et the proper skills for a ship to kill sleepers, you'll be able to afford everything easily.
>Amarr
>Sansha's Nation
>>124163570
You could join a corp in shadow/snuff box and get a bit of both, or look around FW and fine on that does mostly just FW and do basically nothing but small gang stuff 24/7.
>>124180784
>not unironically flying 100mn phantasm
>>124180784
>not ironically unironically flying a cute succubus
>Mordu's Legion
>Kiting
>goonswarm
>shadow cartel
>OSS
>tishu
>Snuff Box
>EVE Online
>punisher nerf
>only 5 more days
>>124163570
Waffles
>Waffles
>Pancakes
>french toast
>all-out
Still waiting.
>go to sov null
>get a good fight
>don't get blobbed to shit
>Go to sov
>take sov from people who didn't care to defend it
>put our flag in the dirt
>realize that the people we took sov from didn't defend it for the same reason how bored I am with it now.
>have just 3 systems and don't care if we lose one of them because it seems pointless to defend because its "timers online"
arbitrator a sexy
>>124195509
Then don't play, go bitch in reddit.
Nobody cares about your blogpost, you're just as bad as the doomsayers about MUH EVE DYING.
>>124195390
After killing an sma cynabal and rupture, I escaped blob tackle and their carriers started repping me.
>Arbitrator
>>124169839
if you want to commit time, fly in w-space
>silver spoon kaile honestly thinks he is good at this game
>you will never join tengoo
>>124200864
>Amarr
>Amarr
>Amarr
>>124204753
>>124204947
>>124205032
Why aren't t3ds nerfed yet?
>encapement
>camping in space
>>124205943
Nothing wrong with them.
>>124206214
Except being overpowered and too cheap.
>>124206214
>>124206214
>>124206385
>Svipul #1
>Confessor #5
>Jackdaw #9
Hecate a shit.
LOL
>>124207029
0.5km optimal blows
but god help you if one glues yourself on you
>>124207180
>>124207180
How long would it take a new player to make it as a competent crafter/supplier of goods for a small hub?
>crafting
>crafting
>>124209178
quite awhile, yesterday I went to jita to get mats to craft my epic mount but they were out of sky leathers, I think someone is trying to corner the market and it just hurts us newbies sadly
>>124209604
>>124213198
>>124213537
I didn't think people would sperg at the use of a general mmo term rather than a specific eve term.
Let me be more specific: Let's say I want to make money supplying a mission hub with ammo and ships. How long would I have to train my character to make this profitable?
>>124214504
why would you choose this kind of hell?
>Imperium
>>124214504
you will probably have no fun, and it will probably be most immediately profitable to just trade and haul stuff, rather than making it yourself. also you can't actually haul stuff yourself easily because of suicide ganking.
most of the gameplay in eve involves shooting people, I wouldn't join if you're not interested in doing that, and maybe doing shit like what you want to do as a side project.
>>124214656
I just have a giant boner any time I think about managing a complex production chain.
>>124214960
I was under the impression that specialization was important in EVE. Do you mean using an alt character? Or starting out with combat and moving into industry after I have some experience in the game?
>>124215273
alt characters yeah. trading skills don't really take much SP, I do hauling and trading on a same account alt. I just stopped training my main for a few weeks. I guess it's easy for me though since my main is running out of good skills to train.
you could just train them on your main, but pvp usually involves losing your highsec access and getting killrights on you.
>>124214504
>supplying a mission hub with ammo and ships
lel, most of those nerds make their own ammo and then buy faction/t2
>ships
unless they bling their vindicators they never lose them
>blaster apoc
>>124214960
>most of the gameplay in eve involves shooting people
>>124216770
it works better than lasers because of tracking
>>124217456
was there a meme video so people consider this acceptable now?
>>124218115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckpf0QT8nAk&index=1&list=PLuOO-4In2AGEZiyHi1QI1BnH3AfGtpwpl
>>124218309
any corps make their own house music?
>>124214960
>eve
>gameplay
>>124218115
Its a technique that fooled enemy and it worked
>>124221915
great, I look forward to months of free apoc kills and idiots saying it's a good fit
>>124222043
no, it happens every once in a while that someone makes these neat fits
>>124223232
Scorch S Moa
>>124218309
This is like some mobatrash video of some guy stomping bads with a shit character with a shit build. He's just killing trenchies, it's not actually good.
>>124226878
>trenchies
what is that
>tfw you're dead as fuck
>>124227748
>Cynosural generator
Ayy
>>124227986
way too lazy to bring my cyno 5 hunter out of the WH
>tishu
>unironically being in fleet with tara read
nice blob
>>124227748
>orvolle
nice PF- gate faggot why aren't you using an instawarp interceptor?
>using an instawarp interceptor
how gay can you even be
>>124230630
>get clobbered
>you should use an intsawarping interceptor to NOT get clobbered
>no thats gay
>>124230569
How isa instaWARP ceptor gonna help me get my cheap kills?
>>124230763
how about you just don't be shit instead
>>124230796
you brought a cyno you made it out like you wanted to move a cyno alt
you jumped one of the worst gate camp, highsec to nullsec systems next to HED-GP
>>124230887
>jump second to worst HS-null entrance you could take
>get clobbered
>NO JUST GITGUD STOP BEING SHIT
>>124230569
>>124230630
>>124230902
You're all dumb as fuck look at the screenshot jesus fuck.
Thread is page 10. Literally dead gam
>>124234437
maybe because we're actually playing the game and not ERPing on an imageboard or causing drama like every other general or WoW general
>>124234605
Yeah, that must be why.
>>124234884
ok, keep trying to start shit
I'll be dropping blops over here.
>blops
>>124234964
>I'll be dropping blops over here.
>messing around in WH space, suddenly exit closes
>find exit 3 wormholes away
WH is the best. Y/Y.
>wormhole space
>zira zira
>tara reed
Don't mind me just posting the best ship in the game with no competition or doubt.
>>124238861
what about them?
>k-space
>flying navy/pirate/T2/T3 ships
>>124227748
quality opsec zira zira
>>124240267
delay opsec
>>124240547
Just enough time for you to biomass before the Elite Tengoo hunters track down your alliance and kill you all. Clever.
>>124240639
yes plenty of time
>>124207180
What's so funny? Gotta admire a guy who will get paid no matter what.
>>124241912
Because he's no different from this person. Trading dignity for dosh is a net loss.
>>124238070
pretty standard desu m8
one of us
>wh "pvp"
Hey I have been thinking of coming off of hiatus and playing more eve this year, I stopped playing back when exit bag was formed and I was a member of All-Out.
What did I miss?
>>124247495
https://zkillboard.com/related/31002271/201512040200/
2 hours ago
get rekt
>>124248996
All this tells me is that WHfags have more isk than they know what to do with from jewing all day.
>>124249098
are you some sorta poor person?
maybe you should join a null corp with lower taxes, hit up them havens
l0l
>100% of C6 space is controlled by renters
>WHfags are okay with this
>WHfags are okay with the bluefunnelcake being far worse than the bluedoughnut ever was
They get like one "ebin" gank or whatever a week, maybe an eviction every three months or something as they chase out even more pvp alliances. That's the extent of "wormhole pvp" meanwhile lowsec is literally an unending fightclub, so much so that even content starved gewns are showing up to try and have fun. Even zzznulsec has some minor fights going on all across the map.
>tfw winning 1v1
>oh wow I don't even need reps this guy sucks
>all sort of random sounds beeping left and right
>huh
>CCP UI big
>die
>k-space fags grasping at straws
>>124249589
>lowsec citizen gives his opinions on whspace without ever living there
Oh yeah tell me about all the cool conflicts and you guys got going on W-space.
Did you gank a ratting BS this week? Wouldn't that be exciting!
>>124248925
Pls respond, I want to know
>>124249780
drop siters
actual fights
roams into kspace
not living in blobspace
>objective facts provided from CCP themselves
>y-you're just g-grasping at straws!
PVEspace fags are the most pathetic.
>>124249861
>roams into kspace
this is the only reason to involve yourself with wormhole space
>>124249912
>k-space fags in-charge at looking at 3 year old graphs with any sort of logical thought process
>wormjews
>not blob space
k e k
>>124250025
Yeah if anything the kill percentage for WHspace has gone down.
>>124250025
>3 year old graphs
isn't wormhole space deader than ever?
>>124250095
it also connects to every part of space
>>124249780
duralex evicting haywire for the third time and failing
hk/hawks reset wspace citizen and qex falls apart
new qex members form new alliance 'vertical rebirth' and start carving shit out for themselves
continued eviction of wspace citizen remnants
novac/iso 5 shooting everything
ssc and HK had a nice brawl yesterday
TDSIN and WH0RE continue to be giant carebears and roll people with yachts, they get curbstomped soon
buy my reasonably priced merchandise goyim
>>124249991
You can do it just as easily as a k-space pleb with a simple routing tool and some scanners.
Literally the only reason to live in WHspace is to jew and close your hole if someone who can kill you shows up.
>>124250138
c6 maybe, c5s are popn
>>124250162
So does every other part of space m8.
>>124250268
I like how k-space blobs are too scared to jump into any wormhole
Well the general is a lot faster than it was before at least>>124249852
>>124248925
Not a lot, some stuff is coming out in the winter patch.
Man I love the 4no raisn hateboner k-space fags have for us
Guess we are just that spooky
>>124248925
Nootkin is balling out of control
>>124250178
>>124249780
oh and desolate order is imploding and legit might turn into some sort of corp cival war between their timezones as they try and sort out assets
r3d fire keeps trying to microgang t3s fleets with varying success while running blops stuff out nulls (might move to a 2/5/null soon (tm))
also losing 7bil nags to renter carriers (kek)
conquering darkness joined blue fires alliance for some reason, they run alot of blops too living in a 2/5/null
and thats literally just high class off the top of my head
>>124250607
What do you mean?
Is he still soloing c3s in is 12gu?
>Lucence
>>124250704
more like soloing tengus in his cane
>>124250915
This sounds like some next level memefit I need to copy.
>>124250704
See >>124192813 and pic related
>>124251214
That's a shitfit
To
Be
Honest
>>124250704
We have a C3 static now.
>>124251371
WEEEEEEEW LAD
How's the jewing?
>>124251447
who the fuck are you
>>124251490
I'm ironically memeing friend. :^)
>>124250265
>tfw alliance swaps imperial navy adaptive for a corpeepeepoopoo version.
Rest in peace ally.
I will never be able to poach noot.
>>124253929
mfw a bunch of corps are trying to recruit me
>>124253878
corpi atype are breddy gud tho
>>124254050
Yeah.
But I'm positive you would enjoy beinggood at this game
would kill all-out though
>>124254050
>wow look at this guy, all undocked and stuff, in our space too! we should totally recruit him and getting him grinding those local indexes
this is what nullbots actaully believe
>>124254316
Just about everyone but Provi has asked me to join them.
Why are EVE players so insanely unfunny? It's like everyone has just discovered you can say one thing and wink and it means something else.
Is this called college freshman comedy?
>>123968452
Ahhahahaha, thats funny
>>124256891
glad you liked it
>>124257831
I still don't understand.
Local is dead. We're on page 10.
>Skill Training Complete - Tactical Weapon Reconfiguration: Level 5
>there are people who work for eight hours, come home, and rat for mitturdi for 8 hours
>I'm here spending all 16 exactly how I want, roaming in ultra-expensive T3Cs financed with my untaxed wormhole bucks and unfettered by restrictions imposed on what ships i can fly by some killboard-whore alliance
>>124263843
have fun with t2 triage
>>124263887
15%
1
5
%
>>124264000
siege
>>124263887
Most of the nullbears don't this either. The ones that do are bots or dadgamers.
Go outside of russian botting hell or le 4tress dek xd and you see plenty of pvp, bads and goods alike. The meme about all nullsec pvpers being dumb f1 monkeys who farm anoms all day needs to die.
>>124265863
>meme
Its what they do
>>124265995
Yeah just like how the only thing WHbros just farm sleepers all day right? It's just a meme. Goons and Russian botters are like 99% of that subgroup of "farm all day" faggots. Other dudes just farm so they can afford ships, they don't take it to such autismal heights.
>>124265863
>Go outside of russian botting hell or le 4tress dek xd
This is where 99% of nullsec resides d00d.
>>124266119
So then you should talk about them instead of "all nullsec". Goons and bots aren't real people.
The russians are nowhere near as faggy as the goons.
>>124266512
they're worse
source: I lived near Etherium Reacharound
Does dreadnought siege multiply the damage of any weapon? Say I put polarized small blasters on my moros in a c6 wolf-rayat and siege, will I do retarded damage?
https://public-crest.eveonline.com/killmails/50502672/2690b7296ab064ed7c07ef18c728b72412f0c1f8/
When he rejects your convo and all you wanted to talk about was fits
>>124254050
mfw a ceo from a tishu corp trying to recruit mei might accept
How do you even gank people in low/null with local? Do you really rely on them being retarded/afk?
>>124274030
speed
>>124274030
You don't. You do elite gate smartbombing.
Anyone else going to be playing on Solace today?
>>124274646
I'm talking about slamming ratterfags
>>124278386
>le i hate pve so much hue xDDD
>>124278386
>want to pvp
>doesn't even know how to scan
tip kok.
I now have all the titans and all the skillpoints.
Have I won EVE, /eog/?
>Grid boxes have been increased in size from 250km to 7800km.
What
>>124282105
( https://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-december-release/ )
kek
>>124281957
Your pic is from SiSi.
>Watch Elite:Horizons gameplay
>Remember when CCP tried to do something similar
>Remember when CCP scrapped walking in stations
>Remember when CCP abandoned improving interaction with NPC's
>Further remember that CCP has seemingly abandoned visual station activity along with other stuff promised over the past 3 fanfests
I feel sad now.
>>124284179
>le walking in stations meme
Jesus christ, let go. It won't bring anything anyway.
Looking for some gudfites so I'm thinking of moving to lowsec /dog/.
I used to live in the region near Syndicate way back in the day but it's probably all different now. What's are some of the best and worst lowsec regions and why?
>>124284179
>I want CCP to stop fixing the still-halfway-broken-and-unbalanced-game so I can use a feature that'll be mostly ignored by everyone except ERP fetishists and casualfags from other MMOs
>>>>>/out/
>The most commonly dropped loot in exploration Data sites has had its drop amount halved.
now is the time to invest billions into carbon
>>124289336
they're talking about armor blocks and all of those other stupid parts
>>124289072
Gallente/caldari lowsec is basically where everything is at right now.
who /testing/ here
gimmie some retarded titan fits
>>124289072
all the non-fw regions are inhabited only by new players looking for relic sites, and trash pvpers trying to kill them
Why do so many EVE players play World of Warships? Keep seeing it being mentioned
>>124289072
Fw regionsare the most alive these days. Rest of lowsec is full of various "pirates" with varying stages of autism.
>>124292483
>implying fw link fags aren't the most autistic people in the game
>>124293147
implying all fw is linkfags
implying you aren't garbage by default if you don't live in or near fw space
>grid size being increased to 7800 km
I guess this should solve those instances of moving between grids. people gonna whine about all their off-grid gate bm's tho
>tfw waiting for a new trailer
>>124293380
you're retarded
>>124294754
no, you're shit at pvp
>>124295026
I don't use links which makes me at least 33% better than you faggot.
>>124295026
>linkfag tristan flies over 5k a second
>can't catch it because mine only goes 3k
>no you just need to git gud the links aren't OP and making the difference in fights
>>124295146
>>124295195
I don't even use links, why is reading so difficult
>>124295282
>FW filled with link fags
>no its not just git gud
>>124295431
It's really not though. They're there but it's not like it's not hard to spot.
join tengoo
>>124295431
epic greentextyour space is shit
>>124295586
>it's not like it's not
I'm glad we agree that fw is cancer space.
>>124296183
It's really not though.
who is ready for the year of the HIC? 30k scrams will beno fun
>>123908154
PL is basicly 4chan the corp
>>124296329
I'm ready to biomass irl as solo dies all over again
>they don't scram past linked point range!
lmao scrubs get good
>>124296448
You can't kill that which has been dead for like 3-4 years.
>Punisher changes
>Punisher: +1 Turret, +1 Lowslot, +10 PWG, +13 CPU, Replaced the 5% damage bonus with -10% laser cap use per level
>still no third mid slot
>still can't tackle anything because its so slow
>still can't catch anything because its so slow
>>124296689
I can see you're trying hard
>>124296760
put a nano in the extra lowslot :^)
>>124296882
>still slower than the merlin
>>124296760
fuck off faggot nobody cares
>>124296760
but it's not slow
>>124296910
>slowest frig in the game
>not slow
>>124296760
>using any amarr frig other than malediction
>>124297030
it's a frig, it's not slow
someone has to be the slowest in a class, would you complain about another ship if it wasn't the punisher?
>>124297050
>not crucifier master race
kev pls
>>124297136
>it's a frig, it's not slow
>SLOWEST FRIG IN THE GAME
>NUUUU GUYS 900m/s ISN'T SLOW FOR AN AB FRIG
>>124297216
The don't fucking use it. Problem solved.
>>124297216
why are you fitting an ab?
and did you read the second sentence of my post?
>>124297136
>>someone has to be the slowest in a class, would you complain about another ship if it wasn't the punisher?
Its not just the speed, its the speed mixed with the low agility mixed with no mid slots making it physically unable to tackle anything like the other frigs can, the incursus is a better frig because it has 3 mids and is gobs faster
>>124297353
it doesn't have the fitting, even with a MWD it can't get above 2400m/s
muh speed creep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PPlOzltoWo
>>124297446
I'm not explaining this to you again. if you see no value in it, you won't fly it. I don't give a shit. you only think frigates are tacklers and novice 1v1s. I'm sure you'll git gud in time and realise how shit you are.
>>124297634
>I'm not explaining this to you again.
you said
>some frig has to be the slowest
and I said
>its not just the speed, its this and that and x and y and z that all together makes it worthless
I haven't seen a punisher used unironically in the same amount of time I haven't seen the abaddon used at all ever.
>people fly frigates when t3ds exist
can't afford 40m or something?
>>124297626
I wonder if Prospect or Endurance will be more profitable. How does mining nullsec ore compare to mining ice? And how does gas factor in?
>>124297772
we already talked about abaddons. nobody uses them because nobody uses T1 battleships because pirate battleships literally cost like 400m and t2/t3 cruisers are majorly overpowered
>its this and that and x and y and z
it's still usably mobile, and having lots of midslots isn't everything. there's this thing called tanking, you may have noticed it being fairly important in a lot of fights.
>>124297919
Partially this
also a dragoon would serve and fill the same purpose of the punisher AND do so much more
people think this "slow heavy frig tackle" is a thing when it isn't at all ever because there are other ships that do it better
>usably mobile
not in the face of every other frig that brawls and does it better
>tanking
hardly fucking matters when other frigs exist, the incursus is a better brawler and a punisher will never break the tank of a dual repped incursus
further more the "role" the punisher fills is lack luster and easily fillable by other ships, particularly an incursus, dragoon (another seldom used ship because lack of mids), merlin, algos
the destroyers brawl and provide heavy tackle better than the punisher purely and only because they are superior at the role.
i love hwo i can use duel screen now
>>124298230
holy shit that fit mate jesus christ
>>124298323
I know
im just doing begenier career mission and putting what ever I get on it
>>124298224
>dragoon
go into eft and mouse over the prop symbol on a punisher, tell me its speed:sig ratio. then do it for a dragoon.
>dual repped incursus
right here, this is how I know you're fucking retarded. we're talking about gangs here, and also in your incursus setup of choice, you don't have a web, even thuogh you say webs are essential for undocking in frigs. kill yourself.
>>124298230
How does that work
>>124298521
Thats not what I meant
>we're talking gangs
if you're talking gangs than any of the ships I mentioned will do it better
punisher's lack of damage, lack of ability to tackle, lack of speed, lack of agility is superceded by every other frigate
>Oh you can provide a scram!
so can every other frigate, the punisher has no viable purpose, if you can fly a punisher literally fly any other amarr frigate you're more valuable in them.
>>124298693
how is a destroyer 'better' than a frig? are you completely shit?
>if you can fly a punisher literally fly any other amarr frigate you're more valuable in them.
ok, so in my gang of punishers, you bring along another T1 frigate and get instantly killed because your tank is garbage. wow so valuable, we really appreciate the webifier you had on field for 10 seconds.
>>124298889
The punisher has no role, anything else can fill that "role" with ease as they do it naturally
no one uses punishers for every reason I listed, its shit and has no purpose.
>muh frig gang
you'll just get clobbered by the enemy fleet, your punisher doesn't do jack shit, it can't do jack shit
>>124298659
You stretch your screen and then dock the map on the left side then you off set the interface
>>124298998
its role is it's a tanky brawly armor frigate
>you'll just get clobbered by the enemy fleet, your punisher doesn't do jack shit, it can't do jack shit
yeah I bet your fleet of dual rep incursus will trash it lmao
>>124298889
>ok, so in my gang of punishers
No one has ever run these
>>124299134
yeah it turns out people use things more after a buff than before
>>124296360
Can confirm.
Especially ElitistOps and some groups within sniggerdly.
>>124299128
>its role is it's a tanky brawly armor frigate
any other ship that throws a 400mm plate on will do just the same. it can't catch anything, it can't web anything, its slow
Its shit and its role is easily filled by any other frigate
>>124299540
>will do just the same
they have less tank.
also I opened eft, it's faster than tormentor and merlin. kill yourself.
>>124299626
>they have less tank.
a 400mm plat on anything gives it more than enough buffer to receive logi reps easily
>yea people use shit more after its been buffed
the punisher and abaddon have been left behind for over 6 years since tiercide.
They're garbage, I've never seen one been used in fleet for anything
oh but your extraneous disposition for bullshit must just disprove all of that
>>124299906
>a 400mm plat on anything gives it more than enough buffer to receive logi reps easily
well in that case my superior punisher gang can bring less logi
>I've never seen one
this means nothing, you know
>>124299626
This incursus is faster than the punisher, has a web and fills the brawl role better than the punisher
>>124300050
>real life application of the ships performances and real life appearances mean nothing because it defeats my shit narrative
til
fw frig fags are almost as annoying as dror
>>124300157
and it has a significantly worse tank, and given enough people you can stop giving such a shit about webs. tristan is better than incursus btw.
>real life application of the ships performances and real life appearances mean nothing because it defeats my shit narrative
muh metrics holy shit. I already told you why nobody uses T1 BS other than drone-based meme ships.
kev
>>124300157
>incursus without armor reps
o7 m8s