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blah blah >>123869095

>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/
>Eye isn't showing up!
Please ask in thread, we will be happy to help

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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AHH
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>>123891498
Ignore this thread and go to

>>123891058
>>123891058
>>123891058
>>123891058
>>123891058

We'll come back here later after that one is finished.
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KOS
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>>123891865
Didn't realize one was made, my bad
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>>123891941
It's okay, familia

Just helping organizing things
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Hey, what's the first dungeon to have a chalice shop?
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Bomberman Souls when?
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Trying an Irvine build, would I need some points in Skill for the sake of running through the base game or just put all points in BLT and use Evelyn/Chikage until the DLC?
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I've noticed beast mode claws have longer dodges, but does it also affect I frames?
And it rakes up the meter so fast dang son.
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Gave up on my BLT build. Woke up this morning at 8am to farm those BLT gems, its 6pm now and not 1 off shape gem dropped. 3 eye runes, 323 discovery rate, farmed watchers, BSB, Bloodlickers and not 1 single gem dropped. And I need 5 gems. This level of extreme autism required is too much. I thought I was playing Bloodborne not a generic korean MMO with 0.1% drop rates.
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Any tips on stats for an amy arm/gatling combo? I'm really digging both of these.
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>>123894725
Go 50 blt 25 skl to end with and start with 25 skl. Been using a maxed out bowblade with those stats and i do perplexingly great damage with both melee and arrows. It lets you do nasty shit with the switch attacks and arrow stabs.
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So is the game dead again now that everybody beat the expansion? Or do you think the new weapons will add enough replayability for people to stay in BB and PVP?
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Anyone around sl105 to help me deal with these two Church assholes at the top of the stairs above the pile of Corpse?
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>>123866480

Holy shit this whole Datatsuchi thing is literally Bloodborne.

http://forbiddensiren.wikia.com/wiki/Datatsushi

Is this all based off some sort of ancient myth or something? The similarities are ridiculous.
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>>123904461
La-Mulana has a similar thing. A bit more complex.
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Is Loran Darkbeast hard or am I just a shitter? It took me way too many tries.
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>tfw playing with BoM for the first time

Man up until the update skill has been pretty lackluster, why does From hate dexfags now?
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>Playing through my first game
>been using the Yharnam Hunter set for most of my playthrough
>find another set, try it on
>"what the fuck is this stupid burglar mask over my eyes?"
>realize it's the only blood that had the chance to get on my face through my big collar/hat
>mfw
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>Summon Damian for Ebrietas
>Notice that he just stands outside the fogdoor and watches while I fight her
>kill her solo

t..thanks Damian I guess.
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call me a shitter whatever but fuck maria. hits like a truck and i cant summon help

is it possible to parry her after she goes menstration form?
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>>123898136
eye runes don't help the quality of the drop iirc. So if a mob has 100% chance to drop something anyway it doesn't matter. Pretty sure that's how it works.
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KOSM
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>>123911725
>cant summon help
But you can, ring next to the lantern
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>>123903243
PVP has noticeably plummeted desu. Invading on 60, 98 and 150 chars are all taking fucking forever.
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Desperate for some Laurence help; anyone feel like helping a shit player get to beast mode? bl90, pass is SENDHELP, ringing outside the boss fog.
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>>123911725
get good
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>>123911879
w-wut
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>>123907219
Hard.
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>>123911835
I thought that was exactly how it worked. For example, the werewolves in the upper cathedral have a 100% drop rate. But to get chunks more easily, raise your discovery with runes.
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How badly do you need gems to make Kos parasite worth using?
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>>123907219
Shitter.
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Okay
So which Chalice Dungeon+Offering gives the best Gems?
I've soft capped on my damage stat and want to gem up
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>>123911937
On my way
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>>123911991
Stand next to the lantern before maria, ring the bell.
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>>123908965
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>>123912035
About as badly as any other weapon.
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>>123912180
are the only gems that work on it the very fucking hard to get arc ones?
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>>123912009
I'd love to be wrong. Anyone else know for sure?
>>123912035
pretty goddamn badly. Any arc build is pretty reliant on gems.
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>tfw you can't stop using big hitting, staggering weapons like ludwigs and kirkhammer, making PVE a breeze
>tfw you can't use these weapons in PVP
>tfw you want to learn other, faster swinging weapons but PVE kicks your butt because of muh lack of stagger

Seriously, how can anyone enjoy using dual blades on those big ass dudes, chipping away HP 1/16th a time if you could just roundhouse spin2win with the hunter axe, or charge your ludwigs for an insta kill?

tell me your secrets on how to have fun with low stagger weapons, I want variety when I create a new character but I'm gonna pick hunter axe start weapon again, going straight for kirkhammer at this rate
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>>123912087
Read the OP, all the top tier gems for anything you might need are in there.
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>>123912154
ill have to. i go through vials like candy when i fight her and i hardly got time to even heal
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Sorry Noxette, legless Laurence always gets awkward for me.
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>>123912115
Awesome, thank you. Let's wreck this reskin.
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>tfw always get stuck on one of the pillars
Fight Ludwig while hugging the left wall is a pain
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>>123912237
I'm in ng++ with 25skl and 40arc using primarily my bom, constantly iframing shit and using the different dash followups makes it fun, just beat ludwig
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>>123891498
where the fuck do i farm qs bullets
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>Loran darkbeast
Fuck me, man, this shit is terribad.

Bet it'd be easier if I used a crutch weapon.
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>>123912237
get used to dodging after every 1-2 hits and get familiar with dodge attacks
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>>123912337
ringing, not finding.
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>>123912337
>reskin

that's just plain ignorant.
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Is this actually fun to play?
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3poth0/guide_the_arcanist_an_enormous_guide_to_arcaneing/

inb4
>leddit
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>>123912237
but you can use hunter's axe in pvp familia
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>create a CRF Isz root chalice
>LITERALLY EVERY CHEST HAS PEBBLES IN IT
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>>123912593
>Arcane

It's fun to play. Not fun to farm
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>>123912475
>>123912115
Thanks a bunch for the help, that was great. Sorry for not being able to keep up with your damage, I was trying to get my BMA'd cannon out to compensate.

>>123912582
It's called alliteration.
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>>123912593
>rebbit
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>>123912661
That's what you get for having hight hopes.
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>>123904461
>Crash-landing on planet Earth, he was killed when the people of Hanuda suffered a famine and ate him in the belief that he is a gift from the Gods.

lol'd tbqh

>>123903517
Bait them into the little corridor with the stairs you emerge from, super easy to take them out
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how does dungeon farming work?

>create dungeon
>kill mobs, collect treasures
>kill bosses (get blood twin shards)
>create again?

as in I need to spend all those mats everytime I want to do another run?
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>>123910047
skill had BoM, Burial, Rifle Spear and Reiter before update, all of which are good to great

>>123911918
PvP beckons every 30 seconds in Hamlet and every minute or so in Research Halls
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>>123904461
Yeah it was the first thing that came to my mind. I think I'll go replay Forbidden Siren 2.
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Are the people who have problems with Laurence even using fire resisting armour?
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>>123912797
one you make a dungeon with all the mats any dungeon with those mats are free.
>create dungeon
>kill mob or boss
>leave
>repeat

99% of the time the treasure is shit and useless.
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>>123912220
Arc gem farming has always been one of the hardest, most mind numbing activities.
Parasite more so because without top tier gems (good abyssal + arc%) it is rather lack lustre and you need the damage on that thing.
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>>123912970
I had Ashen gear on, so I definitely could have done better. But the beasthood boost was nice for the claws.
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>>123912661
>create a chalice
>find my first secret room in bloodborne ever
>Oh boy! A CRF treasure room must have some mad stuff in it!
>Completely empty, no chests no enemies nothing

a-all part of the CRF fun

>>123913039
This remains the scariest part of BB for me, though phantoms in Fishing Hamlet look spooky too
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>>123912156

>>123912381
The small forest area between Amelia and Hemwick.
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>>123912593
are people on reddit generally retarded that their "guides" just say the same shit as other guides and it doesn't take much to know any of that information

i'm guessin muh karma
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>>123912970

It hardly matters
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>>123913039
What to you have to do to get her to flip out and kill Arianna?
I tried just getting blood a bunch of times, but nothing happened.
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>>123912713
No problem. Always nice to help an old friend
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>>123912593
>It's my opinion that the Arcane build is best used for PvE. It's very difficult to pull off a pure Arcane build in the current PvP metagames

Is reddit this stupid?
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>>123913179
red moon
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>>123913287
Before or after?
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Are arcane builds as easymodo as magic builds are in the souls games?
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>>123912593
>Listening to lebbit
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>>123913039
I'm totally not going to steal is for my next video
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>>123913186
I was going to say, I haven't played with you in ages! Glad to see you're still doing well and far better at souls games than me.
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>>123912253
Tried.
None of the codes I put in would work
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>>123913129
which, the charnel lane or w/e?
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>Have Ludwig down to a sliver of health with the skeleton guy still alive
>He pulls an AoE and kills him
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So bowblade.
Bloodtinge or skill?
Physical gems regardless obviously.
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>>123913648
Why even care about the skeleton? It doesn't do anything and doesn't have any worthwhile dialogue.
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>>123913287
Do you still get the cord or do you have to kill the nun beforehand?
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>>123913721
Because I want to know what his dialogue is dammit!
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>>123913805
He just chuckles.
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>>123913721
>not caring about skeletons
The one inside you is crying right now.
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hey /bbg/ i havent played bb since earlier this year so the specifics elude me, but i was wondering how fast i could be spelunking in the chalices on a fresh restart?
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The new beast form is fun to use but my only problem is the constant beasthood sound effect. Shit is unnecessary.
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>>123913359
yes
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>>123912661
AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF THE FUCKING MERCILESS WATCHERS GAVE ME A FUCKING ARCANE GEM WHEN I'M NOT DOING A FUCKING ARCANE BUILD
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>>123913938
Gems yes
No gems no
Hunter tools can cheese every boss in the game. There are also several weapons that can.
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>>123913905
The skull encases thehuman brain so technically we are inside our skeletons, anon.
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So how come a random guy who comes to Yharnam to cure himself from an ailment is able to rek all the legendary hunters and Great Ones?
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>>123913129
These make my dick hard
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>>123914051
Blood echoes, mate. You've literally got a Great One in your corner backing you every step of the way.
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>>123913359

Nah, they have a rough start, require a lot of farming (Although the Cold Abyssal buff has made things much easier.), and most enemies/bosses in the game are aggressive to the point where if you don't time a cast right, you're dead. Also, if you want your tools to be super powerful, you have to invest a lot of points into ARC, which doesn't leave a lot of room for other stats-- especially if you want to stay at a reasonably low level. You do have a lot of utility, though, and tools like the Executioner's Gloves will stunlock just about everything. It's definitely a lot more fun to be a spellcaster in BB than it is in Souls.
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>>123914051
Cause that random medic is actually you the player. Good job
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>>123913648
>>123913721
>>123913805
You can keep him alive????
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>>123914051
The hunter's dream is giving him immortality and your success is willed by a great old one.
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>>123914106
What is over?
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>>123913609
Yeah I think that's the name, there's like 8 villagers with guns and a few dogs, the villagers drop 4 bullets each.
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Does the npc in the ludwig boss fight room give/say anything? I guess it died during my fight or some shit since his corpse is just sittin there
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>>123914051
He's the only hunter to get good
You're also eating the umbilical cords of cosmic unknowable horrors from another dimension and that probably helps.
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>>123914048
The brain and organs are hostages so that our muscles and skin don't kill the skeleton
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>>123914239
I think he just moans at you if he survives.
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>>123912970
Bone Ash hat and chest, Old Hunter wrappings, Wine Hakama
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>>123914051
Because overcoming seemingly impossible odds is the basis of every story with a hero ever

>>123914239
New build
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>>123914106
Who the fuck are you
Go the fuck away
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>>123914106
OH SHOOOOT

SUB HYPE

whats wrong with her face
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>>123914051
You got the blood of a great one in your veins.
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I think Mace mode for Bloodletter might be Righteous.
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Can any friend carry me through Amy? Trying to rush beast claws.
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>Took over 40 tries to beat Orphan of Kos.

I'm so bad it hurts. Turns out you were supposed to be passive during the first form and aggressive during the second. Everything hurts.
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>>123914581

I will. Password?
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>>123914463
Well it is a church weapon so it makes sense
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Thoughts on the Rakuyo?
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>>123914613
You did it m8, you're still in the top 2% of Bloodborne players, and we can assume half of them used summons
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>>123914627
bbgs

ringing just outside the arena.
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>>123914106
is he a literal retard
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>>123914669
weebshit meme weapon
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>>123913129
I think 62 screenshots for one panoramic picture might be too much.

>>123914061
Thanks, I guess.
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>>123914669
Not edgy enough. I expected splattering burning blood on everything and suicidal heart-stabbing action.
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>>123914669
Not anime enough.
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>>123914949
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Imposer Iosefka's voice is sexy as hell. Damn I almost wanna import this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulw7wVWy7Yw
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>>123914842

On my way.
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>>123915135
Awesome, thanks man.

I may not be able to do too much during the fight, I get hits in when I can (and probably do no damage) but I'll mainly just try and live.
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>>123913276
>Can't imagine low level runs of Bloodborne being anything other than tedium of the highest order.

They're a little tougher because there's not shit like RTSR, pyromancy or lightning reinforced clubs(which do more damage per r2 than most new players are doing by Anor Londo), but overall it's the same general concept of gitting gud; learning telegraphs, having the right resistances and buffs ready, understanding enemy patrols/placement and such. BL4 isn't substantially harder than SL1 DaS runs. Rewards knowledge of the game all the same
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>>123914664
Yeah. At +9 with 25 STR I was shredding the Bloodlickers in the Nightmare.

I want somebody to crunch the math and find the exact righteous value on it.
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>>123915230

That's fine by me. I'll take care of things.
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So I'm kinda out of the loop. I heard something about From Software presenting something during this year's VGAs. Is that just wishful thinking and overhyping?
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>>123897602
I've heard you take less damage during dodges as Beasts/Ayys but I'll have to test that
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Holy fucking shit I hate those two church bitches
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WHY CAN'T I USE BONE MARROW ASH

EVEN THE WIKI DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT

WHY IS THIS A THING YOU FUCKING INTERNET
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>>123915554
Do you need help?
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>>123915554
what two church bitches? in the dlc friendo?
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>>123915554
Amelia isn't so bad. It's the Ludwig bitch who's a real pain. Just pull her back to the hallway with all the cell doors.
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>>123914106
What happened, did they break up or something?

If so, good riddance. His content went from mediocre to abhorrent when he shoehorned her into literally everything.
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reposting fromd ead thread

"can someone co-op with me in 2nd floor of first loran chalice? the floor with BSB. i just had to suffer thru a co-op session where the other guy used his pathetic flamesprayer the entire time and only attacked it a few times with his weapons. password is lover22"
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>>123914949
Oh jeeze that's some shit, anon.
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>>123915230

>get invaded on my way to the arena
>rakuyo fag
>lagging

I think you can guess what happened next. I'll be there soon.
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>>123914315
He laughs. Just laughs, creepily.
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>>123912593
Holy shit why do all this guys builds have something like 20+ endurance?

>29 endurance
>BL164

What the hell
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>>123915554
>NG++ chruch double team
the fucking worst, my viscerals only do 900 damage and the ludwigs bitch has like over 6k health
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>>123915873
Hah, yeah no problem man.
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>>123915689
No

>>123915834
Sounds good, I'll try it
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>>123914949
Looks like the laser Amygdala in Yahargul protects the zone, I can't get a good panoramic there.

>>123915085
livingfailures.jpg
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>>123912797

You make CFR root dungeons to get gud gems.

Also yes. Instead of just making a level 150 character that is viable for all weapons and playstyles /bbg/ actually has enough neets who spend 5 hours on each new character just to farm the chalice dungeons for gems and chunks for their weapons on every build they make
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>>123916030
This is becoming an Escher painting.
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>>123914106
Who are these kikes and why should I care? I'm guessing it's OBOROROBOROFO which doesn't surprise me because what kind of woman stays with a low test faggots that yells and screeches all the time
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>>123915864
anyone wish to help?
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>>123915834
This. Arcane hunter lady leashes somewhere just before the bend in the stairs, but Ludwig's hunter lady goes further. Just bait 'em down the stairs, then chain parry/visceral the Ludwig's user.
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>get summoned in fishin ham
>faggot just needs help getting his waifu shit sword in the well
eat shit bitch
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>>123916108
I think it is, yes. The only other "one of us", and I use that term with as much sarcasm as one person can muster, who has a significant other they talk about non-stop is ENB, and I'm pretty sure they have a kid, so I doubt they'd split. Especially since he's getting paid to play Souls at this point, and women love easy money.
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No matter which weapon I try, I keep going back to my trusty Saw Cleaver.
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>>123916030
I FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME

IT IS A GOOD PAIN
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>>123915873
>>123915873
Fuck man, sorry I was so useless, I did get it though, thanks heaps!
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Am I just straight up allowed to purchase Ritual Blood 5 in NG+?

Because if so holy shit this made chalices SO much easier
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>>123916204
>got help getting waifu sword AND an attempt at Orphan
>got a nice message after saying how we almost had him and good luck
Some people co-op to actually help people, not just satisfy their own urge for specific fights, I guess.
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Probably a stupid question, but is there any PvP and co-op to be done around level 150?

I took my NG+2 character that high and he's my only Skill dude. Wondering if I should just make a new character or if I can do some PvP with him.
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>>123916262
That's what happened to me with Ludwig's. Since the trailer that first showed it, I knew it was what I wanted. I also ran STR builds in previous Sous games. DBS was my bae as far back as DeS. So once I got that Ludwig's, that was it. I play around with every weapon, but when shit gets serious, I always fall back on my swordfu.
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>>123916484

No problem. I played really badly-- definitely not used to the Beast Cutter.

Have fun in Loran!
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>>123916616
Mensis and Parry Fishing Hamlet
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>>123916594
>Some people co-op to actually help people
And it feels so gooood~
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>>123916408
the whole soulbrandt team is fuckin autistic as shit

>boring mexican with no personality
>a closet faggot who dyes his hair and has tumblr rules
>condescending neckbeard who isn't that great at souls in the first place
>oroboro who has an annoying voice

>>123916594
i actually managed to wear them down since i used a bone blade on one. they fucked me up though since the beckoner was a coward bitch so they both dived at me
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>kill first anchorshark
>the second one disappears

BRAVO FROM
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Where the fuck is this first lamp shortcut in the Fishing Hamlet? I've done the whole level but am missing the Harrowed Set, and I can see a ladder taunting me. To the left of the well somewhere?

Also fuck those fucking sharks.
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>>123916734
soulbrandt has always been shit and they never even pay attention to the things their members do

neezy is the sole redeeming factor, and that being said he's honestly shit now compared to how he was in the past
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>>123916858
past the well is a rock face with lanterns lighting the path up it.
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>>123916917
Well, guess I'm blind then. Thanks, I was looking around where street shark lives.
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>>123916030
Yahargul is protected by a strong magic, this is the best I could get. I'll be back tomorrow for some Hemwick and Byrgenwerth.
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So what are these abyssal gems everyone talks about? Are they new?
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I need help versus bloodletting camerabeast on the fixed great pthumeru ihyll

pass: bbg321

Ringing already

send help
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>>123915834
>Amelia
Commit sudoku
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>>123915285
Well, you have serrated shit and fire paper/beasthood which is basically the equivalent of the old clubs and RTSR respectively. But yeah, it definitely takes more work because they aren't as exploitable.
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>>123916734
>>123916904
Is Lobos part of that soulbrandt bullshit because I kind of like watching him do all those challenge runs and speedruns
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>Fromsoft says to be aggressive during The Old Hunters
>its impossible to be aggressive because you can get stun locked or kill in 1 hit
>its impossible to be aggressive with some of the new bosses because they do too much damage
Orphan is literally the prime example of this, why the fuck would I want to be dodging for 5 minutes and hit twice and repeat? how the fuck does anyone believe this is fun? it boggles my mind how people believe that this game is hard, it's literally gimmick the game
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>>123917094
Woman dressed in all white, kneeling in front of Laurence's skull, chanting the same exact prayer. Totally not Amelia.
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>>123917180
i dont think so. hes ok in my book anyway. think hes part of team wolfpack or something furry
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>>123917067

On my way.
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>>123917210
>he believes the DLC takes place in the past
Vaatti shitters can't think by themselves do they?
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no

and after looking, pep and jerp are awesome dudes but pep doesnt even play bb and jerp does lots of random stuff
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>>123917197
Perhaps consider parrying Orphan.
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>>123917329
When the fuck did I even imply that?
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>>123917210
>exact same prayer

Except it's not?
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>>123917197
You're like objectively wrong. You can be aggressive without being hit, you know? Orphan is full of openings, I killed him with the hammer mode on the kirkhammer. He's actually one of the few bosses where it felt fun to use the hammer over the sword.
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>killing the brain ladies in Innsmouth
>one of them drops a 20.3% Atk up gem
Fucking sweet. I'm farming these whores for a while then.

>>123917037
Trippy.
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>>123917339
meant for
>>123917180
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>>123917407
Have you listened to it?
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>>123917340
Already tried shooting at it, there was never a chance to parry it and I ended up getting hit and taking 60% damage. I can understand if it slams down and gets a direct hit, but splash damage shouldn't be doing so much damage
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>>123917371
you have to imply that to imply Amelia is in the DLC you dingus.
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>>123917475

>20.3%

Wow, that's pretty close to the kind you can get from FRC Rom/Amygdala, right?
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How good is the stamina rune you get from completing Eileen's quest path? I'm planning a skill build, and I'd just as soon kill her for early BoM but if the rune is worth the wait I guess I can make do.
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>>123916734
i like how bloodborne is now peeve's fav souls game. fucking faggot abandoned the game and now it's his fav.
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How do I get decent gems without chalice grinding?

I swear to god every time I come here I get mad seeing people talk about their epic gems.
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>>123917329
im of the assumption it may or may not be amelia, considering the prayer, the location, and the idea of this place being a dream realm for all hunters who get jacked up on beast blood to go after they die. Certainly not the past, but just a horrifying parody of how the past was remembered by a few particularly powerful hunters/kin like creatures, however it goes, I ain't finished the dlc yet, got to the living failures before I had to go back to college, gonna be waiting till holly jolly holidays before I can continue.
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>>123917523
Laurence, Maria, and Ludwig are long since dead in actual Yharnam. The DLC takes place in a Nightmare, where blood-addled beasts and hunters alike are stuck in a perpetual hunt forever.
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>>123917298
kk, tell me when you start ringing

I'm at the lamp before the boss
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>>123917552
Tho be fair, the expansion is really fucking good. On my second time through I would intentionally die just to refight the bosses over and over. Ludwig and Orphan are both godlike fights, easily the best 2 in the game.
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>>123917703

I'm ringing now.
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>>123917197
consider suicide.

>>123917210
She's dressed nothing like Amelia, nor does she have Amelia's hair. I guess it's not completely impossible but it doesn't seem very likely.

>>123917552
He actually played it way more than anyone besides that Sen faggot. He just didn't do pvp because, like OH SHOOT, he's got to make his monies and kids don't like downtime.
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Damn this one big bitch, she's gotta easily be 8 feet tall
>Gratia will never grab you around the waist and lift your crotch up to her chest
>She will never forcibly titfuck you, using her massive biceps to squeeze her breasts together
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>>123917804
>She's dressed nothing like Amelia, nor does she have Amelia's hair.
To be fair, we didn't really see either of these things in the main game.
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>>123917541
It's a 10% increase, pretty shit.
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>>123917804
>can't take true criticism
>gets angry
fromshitter pls
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>>123917794
God this wait is awful. Dunno what's up with multiplayer but something seems fucked

Are you trying SRRC or are you at the lamp?
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>>123917934
So I won't regret murdering her for early BoM?
Sweet. Think I'm gonna start my skill playthrough tonight, then.
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>>123917197
You can consistently dodge and counter Orphan without the 1-2 poke you're taking about if you're appropriately aggressive. Dodging back and trying to score heals literally the instant you're not being hit are not tactical decisions in these fights, also if you're comfortable using l1s and r2s for regain it's still a pretty competent system, especially with higher rally weapons like BB, Axe, MLGS or Reiter
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Is it Kos or Kosm?
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>>123917804
People are shitposting about it to troll vaati if he steals more of our theories
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>>123917995

I'm trying SRRC. It's normally a lot faster than this. Have you been ringing for a while or...?
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>>123918002
it clashes with a lot of summons too.

BoM is a fun weapon and the trouble of gettin the oath rune is too much of a hassle.
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>>123918092
Started ringing before I even posted
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What physical attack percent are the rating 20 cursed tempering gems?
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>>123917541
Why kill her? Use the cane or spear until you kill Amelia, and then use Saif.
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>>123918125

Damn. Well, you said story Ihyll, right? Which floor is Bloodletting on? Second? I can rush there if you want.
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>>123918059
Currently more instances of Kos than Kosm.

Most say Kos, but some say Kosm...

From confirmed for deepest lore
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>>123917857
dude, she was a downie.
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>>123917639
Exactly Amelia has absolutely nothing to do there at all.
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>>123918223
Because BoM look fun and the cane doesn't.
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>>123917857
Gascoigne's sister tho
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i hate that 4chan now keeps me up to date on all these twitch celebrities that i come to 4chan specifically to avoid

does the nightmare never end?
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>>123918264
What's your point?
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>>123918270
yeah just get to the part with her fighting henryk and let him wear her down hardcore.

cane is shit BoM best blades
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>>123917037
excellent additions as ever. You're a credit to the thread pananon
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>>123918268
It's literally the exact same place. And she was a Vicar in the church who succumbed to the blood. Why wouldn't she end up there?
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>>123918238

Yeah, second one. But I don't want to take your time, really, it's okay.
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>>123918315
cool post +1
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>>123917905
You see more than enough to know that she isn't wearing the white cleric set, and we know that she has longer hair that isn't apparent in the DLC.

The thing that makes it possible is how the nightmare could be depicting Amelia at a different point in her life. But there really isn't any evidence of that being the case, and all we know for sure about the nun in the DLC is that she's saying the same prayer and praying at the same altar.
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>>123918395
>It's literally the exact same place
Nope.
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>>123918395
Why wouldn't she instead turn up as a Beast a la Laurence?
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>>123918270
>>123918270
Cane is plenty fun, but you could literally get Saif in an hour and just use that.
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>>123918315
4chan as we know it is ded, it's all about mocking normies then mocking people for not being normie enough and then watching and commenting on and giving money to useless ecelebs, but 'ironically'
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>>123917407
it actually is, i went back to that point and turned my volume way up. it's the same prayer
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>>123918438

It's no big deal. I can rush there quickly.
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>>123918483
There's not much point in doing a playthrough if I have to speedrun half of the game in order to get a weapon.
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How many blood rocks can you get each playthrough? 3?
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>>123918484
can't we just say normalfag. i'm literally gay. i give you permission.
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>>123918484
Isn't that pretty much just /v/?
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>>123918482
>non-boss beast Amelia, paired up with that memeblade hunter
fuck, now I really want this
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>>123918481
When you break the window in the Lumenflower garden and come down to the top floor of the Cathedral in the main game, if you look down you see the altar and the arena you fought Amelia in. The exact same window in the nightmare drops you down to the same altar the woman was praying at. The same altar you find his skull at. Whether or not it's Amelia, it's most certainly the same place.

>>123918482
Why didn't all the other Hunters there end up as beasts?
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>cheesing defiled watchdog with Bowblade
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>>123917857
I wonder what kind of weapon she would use as her right tough
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>>123918624
2 in story, 3 more guaranteed in chalices but those are per character instead of per ng
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>>123918726
None
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>>123917552
Where did he said that?
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>>123918627
The 'normal' part of that moniker is the offensive part, unless you are also a normallow I don't feel comfortable using that term

>>123918689
unfortunately, no
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just beat Bloodborne and its DLC for the first time today.
what happened?
Bloodborne has so little weapons its disgusting, the bosses are ok but I really liked the Gherman and Gascan fight more than any other, even the true final boss "the red tentacle thing" wasn't really that hard. the DLC tho, wew lad that was fun but the final area was pretty crap, like the first 2 areas have a lot of different paths and shortcuts and are big, than you get to the final area and it's just 1 long corridor and the final boss was pretty shallow compared to the other 3 bosses. wish there was more than just 4 bosses (1 of which is a shitty horde boss)
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>>123918831
>I don't feel comfortable using that term
And you're trying to say that 4chan is dying. Hilarious.
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Lmao what the fuck am I supposed to do during the Laurence fight.

That second form destroys me instantly.
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>>123918624

every layer 3 bosses have chance to drop blood rock now
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>>123918560
Ok then. I'll be waiting at the last lamp before him
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>>123918709
Because they were Blood drunk when they carried over. Amelia was essentially sane to very last second and went full Beast. Probably the same reason we don't find Gascoigne there, which is something I'd been hoping for
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>>123918949
>what is a joke
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Should bowblade be built full skill or bloodtinge skill mix?
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>>123918915
Good to see you're actually trying this time, /dsg/
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>>123918915
There's a 5th boss in the DLC.
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>keep getting summoned via SRRC by a guy that keeps blanking us seconds before he kills the boss
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>>123918915
I honestly can't tell if this is bait or just stupidity.

4chan is just that bad now, I guess.
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>>123918960
Shoot him. Don't tell me
>He didn't level bloodtinge
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>>123918960

I summoned someone and we just ran to opposite ends of the room and took turns luring him from one end to another whilst throwing black star eyes at him
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>>123918745
Thanks. I thought it was only one for chalices.

>>123918989
Really? When was this?
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>>123918709
It is Yarhman according to the host of the dream, like the Hunter's Dream compared to the Abandoned Workshop, you're seeing an alternate reality according to Gherman.

So you were wrong, it's not LITERALLY the EXACT same place.
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>>123912963

>Siren 2
>not Siren 1

What a fucking pleb
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>>123919056
>>123919101
>they're making fun of my game :(((((
I can see why fromshitters are labeled as babies

>>123919063
a 5th boss? I'm guessing its the fire thing at the cathedral
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>>123917540
Pretty good for before Rom. I'm gonna grind these and then smash Lower Pthumeru, I like keeping the night.
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>>123919147
rocks are infinite in chalices, if you count boss drops
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I'M NOT GOING DOWN THAT FUCKIN WELL AGAIN STOP MAKIN ME FIGHT THEM FOR YOU FAGGOTS
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Where to farm cursed Arcane radials like the ones fire/bolt ones you get off bone ash hunters? I've been told they drop Arcane too, but I've been farming for a while and haven't seen a single one.
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>>123918831
>I don't feel comfortable using that term
i understand but the point of "normalfag" was that it was reappropriation. the entire insult in calling someone gay is the implication that it's abnormal, and normalfag turns the insult back

i know at least two essays on the nuanced, progressive use of the term fag on 4chan (e.g. "op is a fag but a cool fag like freddie mercury") but it seems the latest crop of new users kind of lost all that subtlety

"normie" is completely toothless and sounds like something a high school edgelord would say. it's missing the point
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>>123919207
>fromshitters

Thanks for confirming it
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>>123919101
The former. So both.
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>>123918796
On stream, some sub asked him.
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>>123919207
Yeah it's the fire thing. You need a key item to trigger the bossfight.
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>>123919207
well at least you were nice enough to confirm it
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How is the parasite with base 20 Arcane?
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>>123919207
ebin greentxest mane your makeng m satlyyy pls meem moer
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>>123919073

If it happens again, let him go through the fog and blank out so he has to solo a buffed up boss.
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>>123919330
Probably really shitty
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>>123919330
you can fake the multi-hit attacks with flat gems but everything else will be total shit

it's a 1.6 arcane scaling weapon, highest scaling in the game by almost 50%, what did you expect
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>>123918915
epic story bro
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>>123918584
>kill gascan
>kill amelia
>get saif
Lmaotbqh
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>>123919242
Which bosses do I do? Layer 3 FRC ones?
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WISH THERE WAS AN INDICATOR WITH THE HOST SHOWING IF HES NG+ OR NOT AYE FROMSOFT?
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>>123918915
Good effort, 6/10. Not amazing but a marked improvement. Well done

>>123919282
My point was that it's a meaningless designation that is either completely desirable or completely undesirable based on the arbitrary whims of your conversational partner
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>>123918915
Friendly reminder this is a general for people who like this game.
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>>123919528
You have to kill, at minimum, 2 bosses before you can do amelia. You can't buy the shortcut key without killing cleric beast and can't take the long way without killing BSB.
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>>123918915
I agree
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>>123919528
Actually you have to kill 3 bosses to get into the nightmare, not 2. 3 bosses is definitely half of the game, btw, or so I heard from /v/.
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>Had to go back to use the Saw Cleaver after struggling to beat Laurence with the MHS.

I mean I built it like shit but still. 30 strength, 25 skill, and 15 arcane probably isn't enough.
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>>123919591
i don't think the point of conversation is to optimize the preference function of your conversation partner
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>>123919276

Anyone? :c
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>>123919681
>You have to kill, at minimum, 2 bosses before you can do amelia.
RETARD ALERT
Kill Gascoigne
buy emblem
Kill Amelia
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>>123919681
TWO WHOLE BOSSES HOLY SHIT
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>>123919584
I thought NG and NG+ players were segregated, just like in DaS2?
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>someone doesn't like something about the game
>must be bait

Fromdrones are pathetic
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These Kos snails things are cute, I understand Micolash better now.
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>>123919284
>>123919318
>>123919438
safe space fags pls go back to tumblr

>>123919305
I'll look at a wiki for it
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>>123919005

I'm finally there.
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>>123919625
something something "hugbox"
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>the farming is finally over
>take my first steps into alium pvp
>mfw it's fucking beautiful

It was worth it, it was all so worth it, my god. Gank squads cannot break this smile.
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>>123919809
Nope. its pretty shit when mooks take 5 hits to kill instead of 2
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>>123919876
kk, I was already ringing

>inb4itdoesntwork
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>>123919681
Then kill cleric beast
Or BSB
Or go to NG+ with saif
Shaking my head
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>>123919730

put cursed nourishing gems nigga
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>>123917340
Hell, it staggers really easily too.
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>>123919809
Nope. DS2 doesn't even have that segregation anymore.
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>>123919803
You can't buy the emblem without the sword hunter badge.
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>>123919625
I only said some parts of Bloodborne was poorly done, the rest is fine, looks like there are people here who get triggered easier than others
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>>123919052
Plees response
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>>123919809
No. Anyone can be summoned into any NG cycle as long as they're within level range (and level range can be completely ignored if a password is used, so you could theoretically summon a brand new character into NG+7).
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>>123919825
are we just going to see one of these posts every minute cooldown now that THE TRAP HAS SPRUNG
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>>123919736
I don't know why you would think I implied that. In any case I'm going to bed night
>>
I like bloodborne.
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triggered frombox dronebait. tumblr. go back to reddit if you don't like twitch so much, kek
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>>123917475
Nourishing or tempering?
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>>123920009
...I literally just made a new character.

Someone summon me into NG+7 Cleric beast or Gascan.

Password can be whatever.
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>>123920027
As long as there are PC only children in the world there's no reason why this wouldn't be the case.
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>>123919979
Yeah but we dont go and ask for your critique on it. Plus as for the weapons thing, this isnt a souls game.
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>>123918915

>so little weapons

What? It has plenty.
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Is it worth to go through NG+ or just build a new character for the secret ending?
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>pwmf22gu now have a chance to drop heavy, striking, and other such gems
You know, I did sit down before the patch and think to myself "you know, farming usable tempering gems for about 6 different weapons isn't tedious enough already, it needs to take almost three times as long"
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>>123920283
that's too damn bad faggot

>>123920289
compared to the other fromsoft games, its barely anything
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>>123919876

I managed to finish it off. A shame you died though, but thanks a lot man, really appreciate it.
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>>123919978
Yes you fucking can. Stop spreading misinfo, I just did it yesterday so it for sure hasn't been patched out.
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>>123920158
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>>123920229
>the absolute madman!
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>>123920350
>compared to the other fromsoft games
you read my post yes? If you havent noticed each and every weapon has unique features and moveset on it disregarding ludwigs/kirk and the cleavers. Again, this isnt a souls game dont expect souls-y things.
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>>123920350
Other fromsoft game has like 10 weapons in 50 flavors and if you're very lucky one slightly different move
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>>123919979
read your post back, you've been on /v/ too long
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>>123920009
So, wait, aren't they synced up the way overleveled characters are synced down if summoned into some newbie's world?
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>>123920289
If there isn't a minimum of 15 of every weapon type with one or two different moves on some of them the amount of weapons is embarrassing by souls community standards.

If you haven't figured it out by now, after everything that's happened, the souls community is not particularly rational.
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>>123920350

Compared to the other Fromsoft games (I'm assuming Souls.), the weapons are a lot more expansive as far as movesets go. I, personally, like that a lot more than:

>weapon
>different-looking weapon with less base damage/weight
>different-looking weapon with a different R2, more weight
>etc

I find that boring, therefore I vastly prefer BB's trick system. Although, considering that, it's no wonder there are less weapons overall. I don't mind that, but to each their own, I guess.
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>>123920472
I honestly just want to see how much damage an unleveled Milquetoast wielding an unupgraded Saw Cleaver will do.
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Why did the church bother putting extra eyes on pigs?
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>>123920123
fuck off
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>>123920374

You're welcome. I hate how slow the R1s are on beast mode. So disappointing, but at least my running/jumping attacks are godly.
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>>123919984
Go full bloodtinge
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If I want to use the Beast Claws and fill up the Beasthood meter, would it be better to have a lower Beasthood stat, or a higher one? Right now my Beasthood number is at 427, but there's no earthly way I can fill that meter with such low stamina.
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>>123920667
Some trick weapons have even less of a moveset than a typical souls weapon. The BB system was very hit or miss, with some weapons being loaded with extraneous moves that you'll never find a use for, and others lacking in moveset and diversity.
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>>123920780
Why do scientists bother trying to grow penises by using rats?
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>>123920667
26 right hand (not including trick modes) and 16 left hand weapons is far from a small amount in any case. It's easy to spot those that blindly parrot /v/ these days
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>>123920780
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>thinking about builds
>already have 5 done up, ready to go
>I'll do one base and one dlc weapon on each
>strength is easy, kirk and amy arm
>bloodtinge also easy, chikage and bloodletter
>quality's easy too, beast claws and moonlight sword
>arcane? ayyyyyy
>mfw these fucking skill weapons

FUCK. I'm gonna need to farm up more goddamn rocks. Church pick and BoM, then swap off to burial blade and rakuyo whenever. Fucking From damn it why all these amazing things.
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>>123920350
>compared to the other fromsoft games, its barely anything
Are you forgetting 90% of the weapons in DaS are literally copy pasted inferior versions of the exact same weapon in each category anon with the only differences being scaling? Not to mention every weapon in BB is 2 in 1, so at a total of 26 right hand weapons, that's 52 total movesets.

This isn't counting firearms either. Plus the fact that the DLC added Kin and Beast forms, two completely unique new playstyles.

Also the fact that each weapon has twice the moveset of the weapons in DaS, and you can seamlessly transform into another weapon mid combo without breaking attack. In DaS you can't even go 2hand without breaking your combo.

Apply yourself and now run back to /dsg/ and cry about how the big bad Bloodborne players called you on your bullshit.
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>>123920897
The higher the better. Breasthood gives you damage bonuses at breakpoints, which are raw numerical values and not high much the bar is filled. The lower your beasthood, the lower the maximum breakpoint you can hit, essentially.
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>>123919826
Explain?
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>>123920780
Pigs are excellent human analogs used in all kinds of experiments and testing.
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>>123921004
>every weapon in BB is 2 in 1
Tontitrus
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>>123921010
Ok, thanks. I guess I'll wear this ridiculous getup to keep my beasthood number high then.
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>>123921047
>he wouldn't that slimy, eldritch truth-touched mouth
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>>123921124
Oh yeah, there's a reason I found that one boring as fuck.
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What are the plip plop enemies officially called?
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>>123921124
wow, one fucking weapon.
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>>123920905

Are you thinking of the Tonitrus/Boom Hammer? To be honest, those two remind me of typical Souls weapons.

As for those "extraneous" moves, which ones are you referring to? I've yet to use a weapon across all my characters that had a move too flashy/dangerous/etc to use. (Aside from the Boom Hammer, I guess, but even then.)
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>>123920951
You get 5 rocks a playthrough remember, that's loads
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Anyone wanna help defiled Amy? Password: bbg22
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>>123921217
Boomhammer
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>>123921128
Pretty sure the cap is at 300, but a bigger meter means you can maintain that level for a longer period without doing damage.
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>>123921254
wow two fuckin weapon
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>>123921254
wow, two fucking weapons.
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>>123921124
1 out of 26 weapons is not 2 in one. Arguably boom hammer too.

Doesn't the fact you can pick them out quickly speak volumes?
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>>123921238
It just so happens that skill build is one of the first I really tried to optimize. I wasted a few rocks. Fucking uncanny burial blade.
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>>123921047
Micolash is a Kosexual
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>>123921238
>5
literally how? I only got 2
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>>123921139
>grab a fleshlight
>keep it at room temperature or just below
>drop a whole bottle of lube on it, completely drench the thing
There, an accurate representation of how it'd feel.
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>>123921248

Activated SRRC. Are you ringing?
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I think part of the problem I have with the weapons in BB is that generally people just use one move. Why use the Cleaver R2 when you can just mash r1 or dash attack, or why use any move of the kirkhammer other than the charged heavy attack? There are so many moves, but most of them are pointless, and I get frustrated with transform attacks more often than anything else, since they happen when you transform after a dash
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>>123920876
Y'all're useless keks, what do I even pay you for again?
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>>123921254
Boom hammer has a very different stamina usage and attack radius while charged. Moveset LOOKS the same, but BEHAVES very differently. Still vastly more interesting than Greatsword Souls 2: Scholar of the First Greatsword Edition.
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>>123921407
chalices famwich

>>123921416
s-sounds good...

>tfw snail ladies got you into japanese slime porn
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guys are there any guides/sliders I can use to make a cute good hunter?
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>>123921472
>since they happen when you transform after a dash

This has killed me more often than I'd like to admit.
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>>123921446
Yeah, I'm ringing
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>>123921289
>>123921284
kirkhammer + Ludwig's have the same untricked form
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>>123921248
ringing
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>>123921569

Alright. Hopefully it doesn't take long.
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>>123921536
>chalices
wew lad not gonna happen
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>>123921248
ringing
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>>123921472
why don't you learn how to use the weapons?

> I get frustrated with transform attacks more often than anything else, since they happen when you transform after a dash

So why are you doing that?

Don't do stuff that has undesirable effects. The game doesn't make you do that.
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>>123921472
Plus I always get the feeling that the enemies in bb weren't designed around the weapons that are used to fight them. Like the kirhammer's sword->hammer transform attack. It has no hyper armor, is slow as hell and therte's no enemy in the game that'll let you use it without walking away or interrupting you, even if you try to combo into it. It's not awful, but I use it maybe a dozen times in an entire playthrough because there's no reason to. Lots of BB movesets feel like they have attacks mapped to buttons just for the sake of it, and that attack doesn't actually have a purpose or niche that isn't better filled by another attack.
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>>123921597
Range and scaling are different, which makes them different by Dark Souls standards.
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>>123921532
>not liking greatswords
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>>123921660
Enjoy having 2 rocks and 1/2 an endgame then I guess
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>>123921634
Where you at famalam? I'm right outside bossroom
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>>123921847
If chalices constitute endgame then BB's endgame is shit.
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>>123921004
/dsg/'s convinced itself that BB has neither quantity nor quality, so they'd just applaud anyone attacking it with the usual numbers game. They're far too used to making decisions off of difficulty and quantity when it comes to games. Not to say that BB is totally flawless.
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>>123921284
>>123921289

Stake Driver?
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>>123921872

I'm using the SRRC. This thing refuses to work with passwords, I swear.
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>beast patients are wearing the Harrowed hood

Deepest lore.
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>>123921472
>I'm bad
>this means that the game is bad
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>>123921847
I'll enjoy that a whole lot more than going through chalices tbhfam
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>>123921784
See
>>123921694


>>123921897
You'll never know and we're happy to not have you
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>>123920631
Nope. But they do get quite a lot more souls than they would otherwise get. I remember there was some kind anon a few weeks ago who would summon people into NG+7 so they could get a mountain of echoes right from the get go.
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>>123921694
>I don't understand basic game mechanics
>I have no self control
>a small measure of skill is too much for someone like me
>this game sucks
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>>123921597
Still on 2 fucking weapons

>>123921956
Moveset changes, though not by much. Should we count it?
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Uhh, sorry for that, spawned way off.
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Anyone's want to coop Laurence with me?

Pass is skull, outside fog.
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>>123921472
>There are so many moves, but most of them are pointless
Most transform attacks have strong hyper armour meaning they're incredibly strong for powering through a faster enemy. Not to mention L2's on things like Burial and Ludwig are incredibly useful in certain situations like Defiled Amy and Loran CameraBeast.

>and I get frustrated with transform attacks more often than anything else, since they happen when you transform after a dash
That's not a bad thing, it means you can start a combo with a transform attack instead of having to R1 or R2 first before you can use your L1 attack. They way you suggest removes moveset variety from the game.
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I want my suffering to end. That's right, I need help in the fucking well. I'm level 89 and waiting on the ledge where the brains are after the last shortcut.
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>>123922021
Issue solved then, enjoy

>>123922045
check that reply

>>123922104
Stake moveset changes from a jab to a slash, the R1 movesets are totally different, just both close range. You're really grabbing at straws to include it imo
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>>123920905
Tonitrus and Boom Hammer have more moves than any Souls weapons. Don't forget to account for transformation attacks, unique backstep r1s, backstep r2sand running r2s. There's basically not a single right hand weapon that isn't more complex in some way than a Souls weapon
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>>123921992

>Harrowed Headpiece only gets the hood if you wear it with the Harrowed Chestpiece

Miyazaki you fucking shit
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>>123922115
It's good I should've cleared out those guys to begin with. Gonna blank and try again.
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>>123921898
Quantity is important. DaS2 isn't a good game but it's lukewarm enough to enjoy playing and lasts for a fucking age. Bloodborne was more fun and better all around but being a fraction of the length is a real kick ion the balls for the price. It took me 2 sittings to complete my first playthrough, including the DLCs, all optional bosses and chalices up to Defiled. It was a lot of fun but that's it. I have maybe another sitting's worth of smashing my head against chalice bosses and then all that's left is to make more builds and enjoy progressively shorter and shorter playthroughs until I'm bored of what's available.

In the end, a month worth of game for 60 bucks leaves a bad taste in my mouth, even if it was a good month.
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>>123922220
Use shaman blade
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>>123922246
>There are helmets that remove the ridiculous collar

based MiMi
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>>123921840
>This food has too much salt in it
>Don't you like salt!?
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Still ringing defiled Amy, bbg22
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>>123922220
password?
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>npc hunters have done shit all for me
>grinding my dick through defiled because good gems don't just fall into your lap
>defiled hotdog
>have done this 8 times before but it's still a chore
>faggot messengers jingling a jangle
>"summon old hunter queen killer"
>fuck it, why not
>mfw that entire fight and amy later

QUEEN KILLER BEST OLD HUNTER ALL YEAR EVERY YEAR UNTIL THE COSMOS DRIES UP

HE TANKS DEFILED BOSSES TO THE FACE AND GIVES NO SHITS
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>>123921472
L1s, R2s and L2s all build beasthood faster and regain more than typical r1s although the game doesn't go to any Great lengths to explain this, but it's essentially a very barebones style system from DMC. The game doesn't want you to use just one input
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>Beat's Embrace + Beast Claws
>400 Beasthood
>Fill meter halfway when fighting Maria
>She oneshots me in her blood phase

I'm having so much fun with this beasthood shit.
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>>123922478
I'm not a fan of salt pham but I do like greatswords
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>>123922294
>It was a lot of fun but that's it.
New pasta?

Honestly friend I don't want to be a cunt but you sound bored of life. I love Bloodborne and have to find time to fit it in, I don't wish it were lukewarm but stuffed with bland copypaste 'content' so it would last me longer due to some warped sense of value where time supercedes enjoyment. Maybe take a break from the ol' computer games for a bit?
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>trying to play with friend in Nightmare of Mensis
>keep getting invaded
>wouldn't mind except From doesn't know how to make an online game
>can't attack invader even though my attacks are connecting
>invader can attack me from across the map
Fuck you From...
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Wait, the Amy arm does arcane damage? Shit, does that mean it's not that great without some arcane investment?
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Oh god lumenwood is so beautiful on some locations.
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>>123922543
'end this'
I tried again and died so I gotta head back though, gonna be the ledge again
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>>123922637
>wait is a pure arcane weapon not good without a little bit of arcane?
Hopefully that is a rhetorical question.
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>>123922697
damn it looks like it has more detail there wow.
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>>123922697
you something on your face fäm
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>>123922637
It's split damage, man. Like the blade of mercy and burial blade. From killed any arcane potential amy arm could've had.
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>>123922756
I honestly though it was a STR weapon...
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Is it my internet being awful or did the DLC really sell like shit? I rarely see phantoms and its very difficult to find co op and PVP in all of the DLC areas. Level 70 character here.
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>>123922549
Whenever I summon him he just keeps firing his cannon at the wall until the boss kills him
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>>123921597
The difference between Ludwig 1H and Kirk 1H is the same difference between Bastard Sword and Claymore in DaS1, different length and scaling, with very slight tweaks to moveset, yet you'd count shit like that as 2 weapons in DaS no problem to feed your agenda.

>>123921898
Bloodborne definitely has some issues, but the weapon variety and combat system definitely isn't one of them IMO. The camera and framerate during specific bossfights are some actual issues worth bitching about.

>>123922294
>but being a fraction of the length is a real kick ion the balls for the price
It took me 40 hours to beat the main story originally and I rarely died to bosses, not to mention I've got upwards of 400 hours now across multiple characters thanks to PVP and chalices. I on;y lasted 150 hours in DaS2 before I got bored, because the actual game was nowhere near as good as DaS1, so even with all it's quantity it was still vastly inferior.

People also seem to forget that DeS was in fact only around 25 to 30 hours long. I don't know how people seem to think DaS1 was like 60 hours long, is it because it was most people's first Souls game?

All the games end up around the same length for me, with DeS being shorter by a slight amount and DaS2 being the longest by quite a large margin.
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>>123922630
What is latency.
Lag goes both ways you know. You were probably super fucked up on his screen as well. Learn to abuse it and stop being a bitch.
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>>123922704
Ringing, this is taking long to connect.
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>>123922882
Your internet is shit.
I've collected 99 dregs on my dexfag in last week alone and i've invaded with 4 characters repeatedly, making a shitload of webms in a process.
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>>123922637
Shit I had no idea it was STR/ARC. Bruuuuhhhh I'm revving up the ol' wheel build for this shit right now.
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>>123922294
>DaS2 isn't a good game but it's lukewarm enough to enjoy playing and lasts for a fucking age.
>In the end, a month worth of game for 60 bucks leaves a bad taste in my mouth, even if it was a good month.

I'm having a real hard time understanding this. Are you implying that the value of a game is completely dependent on how many hours it took you to do things in it, and nothing else? Not even the quality of the content? That sounds really stupid.

>>123923015
I don't like the camera in some of the fights either. Framerate has never bothered me unless the game chugs at like sub 15 for huge chunks of time and fortunately BB doesn't have any of those problems.
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>>123923015
Wait there's a length difference between Ludwig's and Kirk? I had no clue.
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Ringing bbg22 again chu
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Is the Whirldog fine for pure STR builds or should I be trying to make use of the ARC scaling?
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>>123922294
>lukewarm enough to enjoy and lasts for ages

mighty fine onions there anon, too bad I got bored after my first playthrough. Quantity is effected if there is no quality. Unless you're pvpfag then yes, Das2 is a wet dream.
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>>123921898

I stopped taking /dsg/ seriously when I posted there as a joke who are your favorite epic streamers hoping for angry reactions and they all answered seriously. Its disturbing how much that shithole has degraded.
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>>123923082
Well fuck, relocate? I'm just gonna go in from the Fishing Hamlet lamp.
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>>123923246
Kirk is like 1/3 or 1/4 shorter, shit really fucked me up for a while after I switched from Ludwigs in PVP, that extra bit of range really makes a difference.
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Has call beyond always costed 7 bullets?
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>>123923297
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm pvpfag and ds2 is horrible for pvp.
It locks you away on shitty arena, it gives host immense advantage, it simply has shit skill ceiling, lower than purely reactive BB.
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>>123923464

No, it used to cost more. (10 or 12, I think. The damage was really shitty, too.)

It was buffed in one of the first patches.
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>>123923479
>reactive

Spammy*
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>>123922294
So I guess DMC3 is a shit game because it has no weapon variety and is only 15 hours long.
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>>123921898
>Not to say that BB is totally flawless.

And then you lose all your credibility acting like a fanboy.
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>>123922882
I've been getting shit at PS4 SOTFS speeds since the patch hit, before the DLC even came out. co-op is even faster. In the DLC specifically I get summoned for Ludwig almost back to back.

Hosting for Orphan, however, is kind of hard to do atm because there are too many hosts and not enough summons (basically the opposite of what it was when the League launched).
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>make a SKL character
>dont know what new weapons to use
>church pick, rakuyo, saif or simons blade

Which one is better for PVP?
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>>123923397
So basically the only truly identical weapons in the game are the untricked saws. Or is there some small difference there as well?
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What's your favorite enemy(NOT boss) in the game?

Mine are the labyrinth watchers and church giants.
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What's a decent beast build look like.
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>>123923605
Try to be spammy against good players and you will get your ass hyperarmored or parried in a flash.
Meanwhile DS2 is a WD spam shitfest if i ever saw one. Entire arena "meta" revolves around fooling connection with faggy unlocked spinning then launching dash attack repeatedly till one of combatants either gets spammed down or parried with buckler.
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>>123921545
Bumping this request I would like to know too
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Ok, defiled Amy host (bbg22). I'm gonna take a break and get some food, I'll try again in a little while.
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>>123923025
>What is latency
I have a ping of 10. This is the only game I've ever had a problem in. From has shit netcode, and everyone has known that for a long time now.

Also, I can't attack the enemy until he has been near me for at least 2 seconds. There is no way of taking advantage of that. They literally have a 2 second head start on anything they do against me.
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>>123923082
Thanks for the help m8, and ended up getting that invader too.
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>>123923760

>Church Pick
A better, more viable Burial Blade with cooler moveset
>Rakuyo
Hyper armor spin 2 win scrubbery
>Saif
Plays like a saw spear would but with a neato moveset
>Simons Blade
It's okay, but you'll need BLT for the bow but if you don't care to use the bow then it's okay on its own.
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>>123923113
what bl are you?
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>>123923649
>admit game has flaws
>acting like a fanboy

Go be a cunt somewhere else.
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>>123922220
>well

well goodluck with that :^)
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>>123923220
A decent game that's long is preferable to a great game that's short. No matter how good content is, you can only replay the same thing so many times before it becomes stale. I would rather have mediocre but enjoyable content to last me for a while and keep me entertained than great content I end up running out of after after only a bit. When a game costs as much as it does any more, I expect some mileage out of it. The lack of mileage in BB is it's most substantial flaw.
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>>123923879
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Ping of 10? Where? Get out kid.
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Anyone need co-op help?
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>>123923943
All builds around BL70-79.
Will do a beasthood BL50 character soon as well.
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>>123921898
>dsg says DaS is better because it's harder
>present them with the fact that chalice dungeons are the largest challenge in the series
>they scream artificial difficulty

>dsg says DaS is better because it has more weapons
>present them with the fact that DaS2's huge weapon variety didn't stop it from being a pile of shit compared to DaS1

You can't win m8's there's always going to be a goalpost change when you call them on their bullshit.

The elitism is so ingrained into their skulls they mentally cannot fathom that Bloodborne does in fact do some things better than Dark Souls.
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>>123922294
DaS2 has a lot of quantity but it's just such a pain to play that game in NG+ since it's just so uninteresting and the boss fights are really shit.
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>>123923807

Beast-Possessed Soul. I can't count how many times that guy has saved my ass in chalice dungeons.

If he doesn't count, then I'd say Celestial Children. They're very cute.
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>>123923262
Pizza Cutter is great for strength as well
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>>123924030
>Where?
Servers across the US. Highest I've ran across is 30 ping. Just because you have shit internet, doesn't mean everyone does.
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>>123924175

He said not boss :^)
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>>123923262
Both whirlgig and amy arm are for pure str.
You can use it on arc build but it requires retarded stat investment compared to simple 50 STR.
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>>123924290

Read my second sentence.
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>Younger bro playing old hunters
>he summons for Maria

How do I help him /bbg/? How do I steer him from this path?
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>>123923879
Are you retarded? Ping to what? You don't actually know what ping or latency are do you?
Did you know that your country isn't the only one in the world? Neat, right?
You're playing online, you will be interacting with them. You will have to connect over some distance at times.
That means there will be a delay on the connection depending on how far things have to travel.
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>>123923984
>A decent game that's long is preferable to a great game that's short. No matter how good content is
That's a ton of bullshit and you know it. There are shit loads of games that are worse off because they overstay their welcome.

Alien Isolation is an example, the last 3 - 4 hours of that game was such a dip in quality it would quite literally have been better game if they'd ended it early.

Even fucking Dark Souls is a prime example of this, the game drops so hard in quality after Anor Londo it would be superior without all the content afterwards. That game was lucky the DLC came out to save it, because the final 3rd of the game was so utterly trash.
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>>123924347

>Celestial Children

Aren't those the crawling fetus that scream when you kill them and pinch you for almost guaranteed frenzy? And you think they're cute?
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>>123924272
Please learn how the internet and multiplayer work before embarrassing yourself.
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>>123924526
>because the final 3rd of the game was so utterly trash.
This is true of DaS2 and BB as well.
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>>123923984
>mediocre but enjoyable content
Oh, alright, so this is a cheap bastard mentality. I've never really agreed with this sentiment, like, at all, but you can't really get anywhere by arguing against it.
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>>123924437

Pull down his pants and squeeze his dick really hard as a joke.
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>>123924315
I'm not too surprised on that answer for the whirligig, but does the Amy arm really do better on pure STR builds? I would have thought being split damage it'd have been way better with like 50 STR/25 ARC builds or something like that.
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So why are people so certain that transformed MHGS doesn't do arc damage?
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>>123924437
Take pictures of him and post them online
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>>123924290
Beast-possessed isn't a boss.
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>>123924537

I thought that's what the little blue aliens were called.

Either way, they're the ones I had in mind.
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>>123924770
It has the same shit ARC scaling and base damage as BoM or BB, ignore it completely, on 50STR it dishes out like 400 damage per hit in both modes.
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>>123924647
I actually prefer the later areas in DaS2, and what's wrong with the final areas on BB? Mergo's Loft is one of the best designed areas in the game IMO. Has some really good vertical and looping to it which reminded me of Latria.

Bergenwyrth is the only area I think is shit in BB, such a small boring shithole with nothing of worth and a dead end and the shittiest boss in the game.
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>>123923807
The silverbeasts and their derp faces.
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So if I want to make a FRC Chalice I have to do the first two Layers of Ailing Loran again?
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Did the DLC add a better place to farm Bloodstone Chunks?
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>>123924290
But the Beast Possessed Soul is also a standard enemy. Do Brainsuckers not count too then because they're a boss as well?
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the constant noise from transformed Beast Claws is FUCKING ANNOYING
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>>123924993
no, but they give you like 20 more.
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>>123925029
Are there any in the little village section next to the light house? That's the only place I haven't checked yet
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>>123925023
This.
I will never make a beast claws character because of this.
It's especially annoying in headphones.
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>>123925096
yeah there's 2 little monsters down there
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finally got my bloodletter thank fucking god i'm sick of samurai shitswords
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>>123923807
Brainsuckers.

and the Red Spiders in Loran. :^)
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So tell me, who is the best husbando and why is it pic related?
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What's with this enemies constantly surviving on what seems to be 1HP shit? Did this always happen?
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Can you reach the rafters again after you've move the stairs up?
I fell I'm looking for a 5m echo bloodstain, pls ;_;
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>>123925225
Yes.
One of the elevators leads you to an area where you can circle around to the other side and walk up a staircase.
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>>123925193
ah, you we're by my side all along
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>>123924936
Late game BB is only shit in a few small ways imho. Yahar'Ghul and Mensis only have a small handful of unique enemies each, the bosses are generally weaker and more gimmicky(Logarius, Ebrietas and Gehrman aside), and some of the areas are small like Byrgenwerth, Upper Cathedral or Cainhurst. Otherwise I think it's the best late-game in the series
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>>123925193
I wonder how he looked like while he was a human.
Even Simon has a respect for him and calls him a true hero.
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I have a level 66 ayy lmao I plan to use to invade lowbies with and I'm about to being gem farming with it.

Will I do fine with cold abyssal radials, specially for the L2? I'm wondering if I'll be able to one shot niggas with the blast.
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>>123925212
pretty much happens constantly. that's why I just mash the everliving shit out of everything
can't remember how many times I died because "well this fourth hit will kill it :^)" and faggot enemy survives with a sliver of hp
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>free the Jap guy locked up in the cell
>summon sign nowhere to be found in research hall

I thought he was supposed to help me with Living Failures? I have never seen him fight.
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>>123925317
>Upper Cathedral or Cainhurst
Upper Cathedral Ward's level design is a bit shit, but I sort of let it away with it because of the atmosphere. I love Cainhurst though, one of my favourite areas to invade, but it's not as well design as Painted World IMO.
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>>123925225
Who made the doll sad? I swear on me mum ill rek em.
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>>123925331
Imagine the fight he put out, leading everyone against the beasts even after he was long infected just through sheer will to stay human.
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>>123925463
kill him.
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>>123920780
The church didn't, you are in a nightmare realm dingus
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>>123925506
Painted World is top 5 for sure. Great fucking area
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I just got the game today and im waiting for it to update, what's a good build for a noob? im not new to souls games but BB is different when it comes to builds right?
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>>123924548
Wow... Really? Good thing I don't have a job as a programmer and know a thing or two about network connections...
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>>123925674
The only real complaint about it is that it's just shoehorned in
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>>123925506
Cainhurst is probably the single best area in the main game.
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>>123925745
just go quality and find weapons you like
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The saif hits like a train.
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>>123925276
I keep forgetting that you can go to the other side of that floor, thanks
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>>123925745
Throw all you points into Arcane. It's op. You'll never need to put point into vit and end, maybe a few since you're new
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>enter defiled amy bossroom
>run from the initial hits
>lock on from far away and she starts shooting laser
>anticipates where I'm going to dash
>die

wew lad that was bullshit
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>>123925758
Good thing indeed.
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>>123925745
level your vit right away, dont worry about dex/str because gems and upgrades give you more damage than scaling early level

dont go over 15 end either

saw weapons are great

avoid cane
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>>123925758
Don't be that guy
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>all those people with the Mensis cages on
>they're all naked
>except Micolash
>Micolash was the only one to survive (or at the very least maintain his mind within a nightmare)

The question is, why was everyone naked?
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>invade via SRRC
>get summoned to hall before boss room
>there's 3 of them in front of me
>get 2 shot by a Rakuyo user
>back in dream
>check glyph
>pwmf

What a pleasant surprise. Hi guys. Nice to see you.
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>>123925745
Quality is a good start. Go with saw cleaver, then Ludwigs for kin once you find it. End game you can use claws for maximum fun + beasts embrace.

Also consider going arcane to 15 for the buff and dodge.
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Anyone feel like helping me end Defiled Amygdala?

Password's amykill if there's any interest. In the shared dungeon, ringing at the lamp.
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>amygdala's arm tricked mode has such a crazy hitbox you can hit players jumping behind and all around you
>that satisfying transformation sound
>that stone axe like r2
god this is perfect
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Am I in the wrong for leaving this dude's world when he somehow takes 20 minutes in like every room after I cleared them all out for him beforehand in way less than 1/5 of the amount of time it took him to grab the items from each room? Keep in mind that this was a depth 2 chalice that I was summoned to via SRRC and that I'm level 95 so he's clearly in at least his high 50s as far as levels go.
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Does Gehrman do anything if you show up in full Maria's set? Insta rage or anything?
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I picked the game up on the weekend, along with a PS4 to play it on, and I can see this very quickly becoming my favorite in the series. I don't like having to farm blood vials or QS bullets (could just be an issue early in the game though), and I don't like how my gun will randomly fire away/past enemies when I'm trying to parry, but other than that it's pretty great so far.

Really, the biggest problem I have with the game is that it isn't on PC - every time I see a minor framerate drop, distant areas that look like ass or a clip of the game from before release (and before the downgrade) I think about how much better it could have been.
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>>123926157

Most weapons that do an overhead when they jump or charge attack can hit people trying to dodge behind you

>mfw getting 1shot pancaked by a Kirkhammer r2 when I'm behind them
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>>123926165
Is that the "I could've beat you but I was testing you" guy?
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>>123925871
Nah, I mean it's fucking great and really heavy on atmosphere and visuals, and I like the layout, but it's just too damn small. Central Yharnam, Cathedral Ward, Old Yharnam, Yahar'Ghul, the Woods and Mensis all have a leg up on it imho for being bigger, more labyrinthine and more diverse. At least in terms of enemies, because visually Cainhurst is pretty diverse; the initial vista from the lamp, the rooftop views, the massive libraries and finally the walk up to Annalise. It's a great area
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>>123926165
Nah he sounds like a faggot. I usually blank out if I'm getting summoned for anything but the boss fight though.
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>>123925745
Ignore str/dex/blt/arc early on because scaling is irrelevant earlygame. Focus on vit and end (don't go over 15 end unless you really, really need it, then don't go over 20). Offensive stats only begin to matter when your weapon is around + 6, which is about halfway through the game. Also be really, really careful with how you use upgrade materials. They tend to be scarce and while you'll eventually get enough to upgrade multiple weapons comfortably, it'll take time. Especially be careful with how you spend your chunks, as they essentially have to be farmed once you go through all the ones the base game gives you.

When you have souls top spare and are comfortable with your HP and stamina, consider getting arcane to 15 to access some of the basic hunter tools. They're shit like a weapon buff, a temporary DWGR and the like.
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>>123926197

I would think he would be too sad/tormented to say anything and would just go back to sitting quietly in his wheelchair.
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>>123925758
FIZZBUZZ

RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW
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>>123925765
Yeah, but the game is better for it xonsidering the shitshow of a lategame DaS has. Before AotA came out I exclusively ran to Painted World post-Anal rodeo and would give up on playthroughs from there on out.
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>>123926435
It'd be neat if the doll started wigging out because she's beginning to remember something she can't exactly grasp if you wear it and talk to her too.
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>>123926330
Nope just some guy that summoned me like an hour ago and got mad when I got tired of waiting for him to grab everything
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>you will never use your great one powers to rewind time, pull out both Gehrman and Maria out of their nightmares and force the fool to confess to poor girl finally
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Which is better for fire gems, uncanny or lost saw spear? And where do i get good fire gems wikis are telling me conflicting shit and the fire axe dudes in entral pthmeru aint dropping shit.
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>>123926706
That sounds like the worst fan fic I've ever read. Continue.
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>>123926706
>Gehrman never taught Maria that buff that makes him stop getting staggered by fucking everything
What a shame. She could've been a real boss, too.
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>>123926132
Ringing
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>>123926784
Lost and the fire wielding guys on the second layer of the very first Pthumeru chalice drop fire radials. Any fire wielding enemy has a chance of dropping them I believe.

The drop rate is just extremely low.
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I messed up.
I pissed of Simon to try get his weapon early.
He's beating my dick off repeatedly.
I can't even summon for help with him :^(
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>>123926784
Fire? Uncanny.
Farm cursed isz watchers and put two arcane scaling abyssals into a weapon as well.
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>>123926784
Lost, getting radial elements are a bitch. The only way I know of getting elemental radials are bone ash hunters and fire related enemies like the Watchdog(Most reliable source of them btw)

You can get good Waning Fire gems from Depth 5 beasts and you get good Triangle Gems from Isz. Ayys can drop them rather easily now
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>spitting on people's corpses as an Ayy with backstep r1
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>>123926881
Or you could just not parry her. That helps significantly as well.
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>>123926890
Thank you my friend.
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Why is farming for gems so fucking boring?
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>>123926881
To be honest she's kinda shit in terms of pure skill.
Good Hunter uses Rakuyo pre-blood mode way more effectively than she is.
She's forced to tap into the blood magic just to have a chance of fighting against you.
Meanwhile Gehrman doesn't need a vileblood heritage. Nigger can just cause explosions with sheer force of his swings.
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>>123926910
>>123926970
Ok ill just get both, do you have glyphs with one in them? Also what would I need to do access said glyphs? I'd need to complete that chalice on my own first right? I never really bothered with the chalice farming before.
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>>123927140
Bad RNG and no friends
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>>123926165
No, it fucking riles me up when people summon you in to babysit them while they spend 20 minutes clearing all the possible rooms and scouring for items.

I'm there to help you beat the hard as fuck boss at the end, the rest of the chalice is a cakewalk and can be easily cleared on your own. Don't invite people in until you're ready to fight the boss.

Might sound bit harsh but there's really no reason you should need a summon to go get the lever and all the items when you can run past 90% of the enemies, especially when there are tons of other people who need help with the bosses.
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>>123927063
For some reason it takes me really long to join password games.
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>>123927054
I didn't even bother parrying her. Just get close and mash R1 with a fast weapon and you can stunlock her for an entire stamina bar every time. I went up to 20 endurance because this was my first playthrough and I didn't know any better, but that meant I could stunlock her for more than a 3rd of her HPbar.
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>>123926107
A better question would be why are so many of them children?
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>>123927165
The wiki is good for providing glyphs to variant weapons. I think I one I got my Lost Saw Spear from was an FRC so you'll need access to that, at the least.
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>>123927160
Gehrman gets buffed by the Moon Presence in order to match you. Why do you think he faces the moon when he does that buff shit?
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What does /bbg/ listen to while farming? It's usually either this or if it's a long session I go through all of Have One On Me.

From /mu/ and was curious what you guys listened to
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>>123927274
alright thanks for the tips
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Is there any way to get the burial blade before beating the game?
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>>123927212
The whole summoning system has been pretty wonky for me since the patch. Are you SRRCing in?

>>123927360
Chalice dungeons.
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Which Beast claw is best Beast claw?
Normal or Uncanny?
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>>123927140
Turn on some interesting audio book and watch as hours fly.
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>>123927360
I'm unsure if this works, but maybe die to the moon presence then it should spawn in the item fountain?
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>>123927391
Normal
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>>123926968
How can I cheese this nerd?
There's gotta be some way
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>>123927270
oops, meant for >>123926034
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>>123927201
How are friends going to help?
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>>123927512
Have you tried blunderbussing him into a corner and wailing away on him? That's what I do for every NPC hunter encounter.
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So is the Parasite genuinely good or am I just facing shit players? I haven't lost in days.
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>>123927564
That might work, he does dodge a lot more than most hunters though. And he likes to run away and shoot you.
I'll go buy one and try
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>>123927384
So I have to blow through the entire chalice grind OR blow through the base game to get it? That's kind of lousy.
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I remember a while back there was a download for the OST.
Is there a link for the DLC music yet?
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>>123927330
Nothing but heres a song I like, tablet so link wont embed
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?list=PLjJT2YmRUDs1fdrboAGga-dITw_r7r6Mm&v=HZ1wwWaHKEI
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>>123927692
it's good only if you have top tier gems otherwise it's shit and useless
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>>123927330
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You're in charge of a balance patch What do you change?

>beast cutter recovery time sped up and increased damage slightly

why'd thry make such a cool weapon so shit
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>>123927512
Try poison or make him fall a great height

>>123927562
More efficient with friends
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Anyone figured out what's in the picture on the table next to Maria?
Fucking monocular won't let me move the camera freely enough
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https://youtu.be/JQOVCy9Wjto?t=351

lmao
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>>123927802
Like any other weapon then?
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>>123927730
Yeah just see if you can work him into a corner, hit him until you're out of stamina, then shoot him until you have more stamina.

>>123927734
Wouldn't it be kind of underwhelming if you could get and use the last boss's weapon against him? Of course it's going to be a chore to get.

Ignoring MP of course.
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>>123927883
no, other weapons with mid-tier gems do regular acceptable damage the parasite with mid-tier gems do shit damage and it's slow as fuck
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>>123927330

>Have One On Me

Another JN fan? Holy shit, that's awesome.

I usually listen to either her or Chairlift.
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I'm level 95 would I still be able to invade most of the DLC? like Research hall and Innsmouth?
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>>123927864
>Whoa! Bossu da!
Their trite little language will never fail to amuse.
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>>123927821
Buff pizza

Nerf ayy
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>>123927976
>Buff pizza

Nigga you best be kidding.
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>>123927384
Yeah, doesn't seem like I can connect. Sorry.
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>>123927969
Yeah you'll be golden
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>>123927330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTte01kdG_k
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>>123927969
research hall it's awesome to invade
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Trying to do the fire dog boss in the cursed defiled chaline and getting my ass handed to me. How do i get better at this shit?
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>>123927804
That's some patrician taste right there.
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>>123928059
Reduce stamina cost for the L2 pls
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>>123926330
Do you by any chance have that saved? Did anon finally show him his build?
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>>123928181
Stay in front at all times. Bait the head bites and punish its backswings
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DLC GUIDE WHEN. I WANT TO KNOW THE WEAPON DAMAGE MULTIPLIERS.
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>>123927384
Holy shit, sorry about that. Wasn't expecting a slam at the start.
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>>123928218
Absolutely not that already does fuck tons of damage.
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>tfw for the first time ever 3 guys don't just gangbang you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU4sON1g9lQ

Very honorabru
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>>123927951
Blunderbuss sorta works. He still managed to dodge out of the corner after a couple rounds, might be me being bad though.
I'll try again but man, this man's swift.
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>>123928339
Yeah if you have like 30 fucking stamina and use beast pellets
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>summon some dude on defiled amy
>going decently until the gargantuan rips his hands off
>dude dies to its jump attack
>I slowly whack away its hp, baiting its apeshit attacks
>literally 1 or 2 more hits and it would be dead
>decides to jump again for the 50th time
>die

I fucking hate this shit so much
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>>123928442
>saif
they thought they'd give babby a chance
:^)
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>>123928316
That's fine friendo, was pretty humorous. As soon as I approached the fog I considered returning to the thread to warn of the initial slam because Amygdala always does it to me and now it seems that I should have listened.

Also given the time it took to connect it'd be completely understandable if you didn't want to continue.

>>123928457
He does sound pretty quick. Have you tried poisoning him too? Given the poison resistance on his set I doubt it'd work but it's always worth a try.
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>>123928442
It is rare considering they are at a disadvantage
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>>123928558
u tlkin shit bout my saifu? *unzips L1*
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>>123928569
I don't have access to poison knives yet unfortunately. I may have to just go RPG for a bit and come back when I'm stronger.
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>>123928442
>not practicing your strats to deal with 3 vs 1.
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>>123912237
Viscerals son.
4K viscerals are life.
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>>123928803
>tfw
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heres the shitty dlc bb bosses
1. fucking fanservice horse (dead horse)
2. fucking fanservice doll bitch
3. vicar Amelia on fire
4. fucking celestial emissary again
5. some bitchass orphan with a shrimp

this dlc fuckin blows
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>>123929010
1/10 you tried
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>>123928930
What happened to the small invincibility time you got in dark souls did they seriously not implement it here?
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>>123928280
Unfortunately, I forgot to save. Sorry, man.
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>>123928569
I just had to run out of stamina at the exact moment Amy was falling down.
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bbg

orphan

come now
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>>123929010

Alright
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>>123928287
I'm doing something terribly wrong as when i stick close to him i get one shot sometimes. Don't really notice the attack either as i'm hugging the wall.
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>>123929276
It's okay the same thing just happened to me. God damn it.
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>guy with bow tries to out spam me and my +9 Gatlinggun
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>>123928442
Happened to me by the bridge in Hunter's Nightmare. I thought they were trying something similar to fight clubs. It was really weird. They dealt shit damage and died from 3 hits. I don't know why they didn't just decide to gangbang me.
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>>123929401
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>>123929250
There are no mercy invincibility frames, but you can mash X to recover quickly. Won't save you from BB's WoG though and that thing can hit up to 1.4K on max tier Parasites
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>>123929010
>>123929223
He didnt even try, that is the worst bait I've seen in a while. Im pretty sure hes one of us trying to fuck around, if you were goin for bait then that is just awful at least explain it with false evidence and mix it up and bring up variety in weapons or some shit. 0/10
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>>123929305
Is bbg the password?
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>>123928634
>considering they are at a disadvantage
how so?
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>>123927308
I don't think it's the case. Remember Gehrman basically created a bunch of arcane shit himself just by being a badass. His power up was most likely a trump card.
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>>123929569
yeah
>>
Papa John's needs a serious buff to its attack speed, reach and stamina consumption
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>>123929675
Its reach is pretty good and it's faster than a Kirk, what's the problem?
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>>123929401
>pvping guy with slow weapon
>tries to outspam the fucking rakuyo

I love when people just don't know when to back the fuck up.
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>>123929758
it consumes too much stamina
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>>123929362
>Hugging the wall
Don't, try to always keep him in the middle in the ring. If you're near the wall you risk getting stuck on something and dying to his charge

Try to keep your distance when he does the bites. He usually does 2 bites side to side starting out, but as his hp drops he adds a faster bite to the right then if you're still close he'll extend his neck and bite forward.

Good luck anon, don't give up just yet!
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Should I keep my end at 15 or should I level it to 20 for rakuyo? Its either 45 vit/20 end or 50 vit/15 end
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>>123929820
That's kind of the deal with STR weapons, harder hitting but more stamina. You aren't running around with 15 stam on a STR build are you?
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>>123929675
Something tells me you lost a few matches in pvp, you wanna kiss so you can git good?
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Holy shit can I get some help with Bruning reskin? His last phase is kickin my ass.
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>>123929675
No, it doesn't.
It's a PVE weapon like a motherfucker, when you bring out the Domino's Special you better be shredding a boss with transformed L2. Felt so bad for Mr. Awoo, I just shoved him in a corner and L2'd / Beast Roar'd his ass.
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How is the church cannon? I havent seen anyone use it.
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>>123929897
You could use another stamina rune and get about the same effect as 45/20. They're both good options but with all the new dlc weapons using a bit more stamina I'd go with 20 end personally
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>>123925895
I got 709 AR on it, it's a bit ridiculous given its speed.
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>>123929534
More like -1/10
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>>123929675
No it does not. The moveset is actually good. The dash + attack aka what sets a good pvp weapon apart from a bad one is great. Sure the standard attack is a bit slow but it deals insane damage. Not to mention it is the best PvE weapon.
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>>123929569
Been ringing for a while now.
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Post Old Hunters!
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>>123930093
>709
Are you 50/50 quality?
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ITT: How to make a weapon hated on BBG

Make whirlgig saw stagger like ludwigs.
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>>123929972
Give me a password and a ringing spot and I'll be right over
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>>123930203
50/50 with two tempering and a heavy gem, yes.
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>>123926486
Sorry, was trying to beat Orphan.

for (num = 1; num < 101; num++)
{
if (num % 3 > 0 && num % 5 > 0)
{
print num
}
else
{
if !(num % 3)
{
print fizz
}
if !(num % 5)
{
print buzz
}
}
}

First time seeing this question. It would result in either 2, 3, or 4 calculations per number. 2 calculations for anything that isn't divisible by 3 or 5, 3 calculations for anything divisible by 3, and 4 calculations for anything divisible by 5 but not 3. Sorry for the lack of complete syntax but ehh.
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>>123930093
What tha fug, stats?
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>>123930093
str/skl stats?
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>try to get help for NG+ Orphan of Kos
>wait for an hour
>nothing
>decide to try helping out myself
>instant summons
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>>123930224
Pw will be bbg and right outside his fog.
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>>123930152
Meant for
>>123929643
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>>123929882
Thanks for not giving up on me. Gonna go for it tomorrow as it's way too late over here but thanks yet again for yer advice mate,
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>>123930316
yeah i have to restart or something, been sittin here waiting

but i'm gonna hold off on orphan, gonna clear upper cathedral ward instead
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>>123930284
>Trying to help out for NG+ Orphan.
>Host keep dying by 2nd form.

This is suffering, how hard is it to focus on dodging a giant man baby
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>>123930292
Ok I'll ring in a minute

>>123930326
No problem. I know how tough and frustrating defiled can be at first. But you'll git gud. We're all gonna git gud brah
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>>123930238
Sick "build"
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>>123930241
Ignore anyone who asks for Fizzbuzz when you say you're a programmer. I've learned that typically means they can't understand much beyond Fizzbuzz itself.

You are wrong though, the game works on P2P, and all Souls games have, with the server being a stun server for redirecting connections with a huge stack-sort algorithm for ingame areas, world regions, and passwords.

I can't be assed to figure out who thinks the game has actual servers, so I'm just dropping this here not directly at you but as part of the conversation.

Offhand, cool to see another programmer here, what area you work in?
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When will they patch in replenishing vials/bullets after each invasion/boss fight?
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>>123929010
>vicar Amelia on fire
C'mon, if you're gonna shitpost at least shitpost accurately.
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So is there any merit to the Fist of Shehulk for a strength build?
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>>123930498
>quality doesn't count as a 'build' now
Nah.
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Post hoontahs, will draw the best one
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>>123930593
if you got a shit weapon that cant stagger for shit then go right ahead friendo. what weapon you plannin on maining
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>>123930527
people have been asking for this since the begining and they never had the decency to do it so no. Hell why don't all used iems regardless or not if they're bullets of health restock if you have extra? it's fucking annoying.
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>>123930598
It doesn't fit in a 98 meta build, this is true. If you're not PvPing, though, why not?
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So, does anyone know what happens when you tell Ludwig 'no' when he asks about the church hunters?
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>>123930598
So what's a 'strength' or 'skill' build at your BL?
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>>123930638

Here's mine >>123930195

Also, why is the Gatling Gun so gud and fun to use?
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>>123930705
I told him no like an asshole. He sounded pretty depressed and acknowledges what he became.
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>>123930527
That's what I want. If you BEAT the boss, you return replenished, and if you lose you return as-is.

>>123930598
I think he means that your build is subjectively shit to him because it lacks restraint.

For example, when comparing builds you'd sort them by intended level cap, then by specialty or weapon.

But if you just give yourself all the stats and ignore typical level caps, any moron can just max out effective stat and call it a day, not to mention when so overpowered then go dig up some gems.

At your level and your investment, there is no str, skl, or Quality, you can use anything at the same effectiveness because you've put so many points into it.
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>invade
>3 guys waiting at the boss fog
>if I approach them they'll all R1 spam me to death
>if I don't aproach them they'll go through the fog
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What weapon am i suppose to be using at level 24?
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>>123930676
I main the beast claws (without the rune)
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>>123930195
Thank Kos for these pants.
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>>123930693
Technically it can 50/50 with 25 vit goes 98. Same goes for glass cannon arc build: 10 vit 99 arc
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Why the fuck are the slime people weak to fire and IMMUNE to bolt? Shouldn't they be closer to kin? Or kin period.
I don't know what's up with Orphan itself yet, I guess I'll see soon enough on my Arc character.
Both bolt and fire paper added the same minuscule amount of damage on my physical char though
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>>123930638
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>>123930859
>what is lead elixir
Seriously, at that point they pretty much already won so unless you blank out, the only chance is to pop a Lead elixir
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>>123930904
You remind me of those scarecrows that just showed up in Berserk.
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>>123930693
>It doesn't fit in a 98 meta build
And? Even at 120 you can have varied builds and you can easily do a 118 build with 50/50 STR/SKL.

How exactly is that any difference from a 40/40 SKL/STR 98 build?

>>123930734
>(You)
Not the guy, just saying it's dumb to assume you can't have builds at 120.
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>>123930885
what weapon do you want to use?
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I'm doing a bloodtinge build, I'm upgrading tinge but it's not doing anything for the Chikage's damage even though it has A scaling. Am I missing something with the way this weapon or bloodtinge works?
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>>123930638
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>>123930449
Thanks boss, you my nigga.
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>>123930526
>what area you work in?
Honestly nothing anymore. My mind is built for complex algorithms, but I wasn't ambitious enough to try to get one of those types of jobs. Since I ended up with less challenging jobs, I ended up leaving the field and switching to a career in industrial inspection, and can generally make 100k + a year for 4 months of works, then have 8 months off. I should probably get back into programming in my spare time. How old is too old to get the fun jobs? I'm already 28 and my memory is going quick...
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>>123930847
That's the point of a quality build, always has been. Use everything. Bloodborne encourages that with gems. Nobody cares about your meta.
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>>123930093
Its folded mode has a low damage multiplier, similar to Kirk/Ludwig getting less AR in untricked form.

That being said, it's not nearly as extreme as Kirk/Ludwig. I think it's like 0.85 or 0.9, whereas Kirk/Ludwig have 0.7 multipliers when untricked.

Still, I get ~600 AR on mine with a 10/50 split. Saws need 25/50 split to get that kind of AR. So it's pretty nice.
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>>123930638
Here you go

>>123931070
Always a pleasure
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>>123930968
I'd go 25 vit and 15 end, the saif chews through stam pretty quickly.
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>ring small bell at placenta man
>get oneshot at 75%
I feel like such a scrub.
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>>123931045
are you using it in its tricked mode?
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>>123927976
>Nerf ayy

Madman
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>>123931175
Yeah, even that damage didn't change.
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>>123924062
>elitism

More like post-purchase rationalization. I have never seen such a hilarious 180 like the one people with the souls games here.

Everybody shat heavily on dark souls 2 here left and right when it came out but as soon as Project Beast was just named people already started saying it wouldn't be exclusive but just a dark souls 2 dlc. There was even that guy that said he'd up a squirrel raw if they showed anything at e3 last year. Then bloodborne came out and revieweres were pretty much beating off to it and the fucking damage control, jesus christ, the damage control, it completely took over. I remember seeing thread after thread after thread at /v/ with a guy saying they should revisit dark souls 2's evaluation, trying to basically retcon the hate it got and pkuks jumped aboard the damage control train. It was fucking ridiculous.

The things poorfags will pull off to rationalize not being able to own the two platforms he wants is disgusting. Let's not forget about that sad soul from /dsg/ that tried to throw mud at bloodborne at the beginning with loaded questions such as "What do you guys think that went wrong with the game? To me is <insert a bunch of generic shitposting from someone who hasn't played the game here>". Then he would go to /dsg/ right after and sing praise to his shitposting thinking he'd sparked something.
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>>123931045
yes, yes you are
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>>123931169
Don't feel bad, anon. Just remember That you were Valtr's last hope and you failed even that, making his legacy worthless now
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>tfw my waifu hoontah looks like a fucking mongoloid

I can't make my own perfect wimmen even if I have been given the tools for doing so
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>>123931043

What weapon that i can obtain? i only killed Cleric Beast and Father Gascoigne.
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>>123931260
How high is your Bloodtinge? How much damage are you getting from scaling? What are you getting from skill scaling? It would be quite odd if you weren't getting anything at all.
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>>123930638
Ayy
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>>123931169
I think I just saw you die.
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I must be doing something wrong because I have no idea how to get past the first area of the dlc
I have the Eye Pendant but I can't seem to have that gate door in the circular area open
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>>123931343
Kirkhammer.
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>>123931131
I don't even have that damage at 30/50 my sawspear is 630something if i'm remembering correctly.
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>>123930638
u better draw me m8
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>>123931167
Going to have to lower your vit to 20 for that 15 end then, good luck
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Let's discuss the Confederates
Are they really as noble as they seem, stomping out the vermin that cause the beast plague one by one, or is there something more sinister going on there?
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>>123931343
You can finish the game with any weapon. Just find one you like. Killing the Cleric Beast allows you to buy the Kirkhammer and finding the Saw Hunter Badge beneath the bridge to Gascoigne allows you to buy saw weapons.
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>>123931003
What's even worse is that it was 3 guys waiting in front of the Living Failures boss fog and the door to the arena was still closed which means the host hadn't even attempted Living Failures yet
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>>123931447
How the fuck
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>>123931312
post face please?
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>>123931312
To be fair, the tools for waifu'ing in this game are basically play-doh and glue sticks.

Is there any place that has a good assortment of builds? I want to make like, a level 98 Rakuyo build with Old Hunter's Bone for maximum Maria.
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>>123931403
There's another path you have to take to get around to there.
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>>123931403
Go through the cave to the right of the cathedral until you reach Ludwig

>>123931479
They are poor hunters trying their best to stay sane, once they stop seeing Vermin in the Beasts they slay, they become bloodaddled and are dragged into the Hunter's nightmare.
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>Killing Orphan in less than a minute with Rakuyo + Pellets + Bolt paper.
>Beckoners clap and or deep respect
Feels good, though If I had the smallest lapse in timing I would die in one hit.
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What BL and weapon level should you fight BSB at? It literally hits me once and applies poison and Alfred is useless
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>>123931479
I really hope the vermin are just a figment of the deranged minds of the League. The Moon Presence causing it while Mensis reeled it in was such a better explanation.
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>>123931479
Valtr is a madman and the vermin is not real
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>>123931403
Circular area? You're supposed to kill rape horse then put the pendant in a skull. Could you post a picture?

>>123931479
They're basically Serbia only they remove Vermin and not kebab

>>123931619
25 is a solid level
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>>123929913
Yeah but it consumes WAYYYYY more than Kirk, but it does less damage than kirk even with better scaling. The L2 and the charge attack are the only good attacks and good luck getting that off in pvp.
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>>123931472
>20 vit
>pvp build
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>take 4 hours to kill Laurence in NG++
>make new character
>kill him first try in NG
you faggots bragging about beating him on NG need to stop, it's night and fucking day
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>>123931401
My PSN is a Polynesian-sounding name with no spaces
It just feels so awkward to get caught like that.
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>>123931479
I'm pretty sure vermin aren't real, since you get them for killing bosses that aren't even beasts, too.
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>>123931619
around 20-30

Level 3 weapon considering old Yharnam has like 30 goddamn shards laying about.
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>>123931619
What's your vitality? Use fire paper and oil urns and Molotovs.
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>>123931479

They are bunch of hippie sjw that trying to stay relevant
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>>123930859
>silencing blank out

>>123931045
Untricked scales off of Skill, tricked scales off of Bloodtinge.

>>123931102
No, you're wrong. "Quality builds are for everything" has LITERALLY only been a line spouted by Lucifer for like 4 years.

Quality the term comes from Demon Souls, it meant that a weapon had dual scaling. Instead of one good scaling, or shit scaling and flat damage, it has two (str and dex) scaling stats so you have to split your investment.

It's not my meta, it's you not understanding the legacy of the shit and just...being a shitter who dumps stats to the absolute maximum of benefit.

Might as well max level like DSP.

>>123931083
I wouldn't know about the good jobs as it were.

I'm doing freelancing from home while I take care of my kids, 31 here. Most of what I do is backend data transfer automation, ETL.

Where I live they only want C#/Java monkeys so I'm happy to do contracting over going into an office and getting paid garbage to do garbage work.

>>123931479
That would explain what Imposter Iosefka said was causing her pain as it swirled in her head.

I'd prefer it if the vermin were an illusion. Last hope that maybe there is a static, understandable enemy despite all the crazy unexplainable bullshit that is too large for one hunter to do anything about.

Denial as a way to keep going and protect the ego.
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>>123931447
>>123931521
This
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>>123927821
-Increase folded Saif starter R1 start-up and dash range.
-Replace Logwheel R1 with its dash R1
-Remove i-frames on forward dash, put them on backstep
-Remove towards backstep, or some say ravioli step
-Transforming Chikage no longer gives it a new moveset, instead you just leave your sword in the scabbard indefinitely until you unzip or untransform it
-Remove visceral damage reduction vs. players/NPC's
-After using the L1 ignite, Boom Hammer attacks all start-up much faster, charged R2 charges much faster, and greatly increases stagger
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>>123931619
Wear the church set, it has good poison resistance. Don't worry too much about poison, you need to DPS the boss down in his final phase.
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>>123931691
>that poor host just standing there
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>>123931702
what lv were you on ng?
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>>123931619
<=30 with +3 weapons.
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>try to make my character look nice
>end up with an four eyed androgynous male

P-Perfect
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>>123930806
Did he fall asleep, or did he start neighing like a maniac?
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>>123931895
70
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>>123931642
This, like the fuck. So why is moon presence even there? What's with all the moon symbolism? What's even the entire point of the story up until now if it can all be explained with "rats flicked some fleas onto some guys and they become monsters"? That takes the whole cosmic horror portion of the game and says "nope, fuck it, the black plague killed yharnam"
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>>123931682
It's definitely seems like more of a PvE weapon, but it has better hyper armour than kirk which can make it solid in PvP
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>>123931773
16
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>>123931447
Best character I've seen. How did you make it?
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>>123931912
That is never a bad thing
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>>123931610
Oh a cave
I'm an idiot, thanks
How early is Simon's Bowblade?
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>>123932082
Before first boss kill the npc hoonta
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>>123932082
The next NPC if you kill him, 3/4 of the DLC legit. Not sure if killing him locks you out of another weapon though
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>>123932072
He was ez pz at 60 as well m8, that's what level I did him on NG.

NG+ is a whole different beast.
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>>123932082
Literally the last weapon you get, if you're not a monster
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>>123932167
It doesn't, the key will just be on the floor.
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>>123931829
I'm glad you at least know where the origin of the term comes from, but quality builds are for using anything you want whenever you want. Stay upset that I'm at a level where you can invade me and I can fight you with any weapon I want.
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>>123932082
Don't do >>123932157

Just go through his story and you will get the blade eventually (unless you plan on being a faggot, getting the blade, and then immediately leaving).
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>>123931829
>I'm happy to do contracting
What kind of pay do you get for contracting? My current job pays about $50 to $56 an hour on average (plus food, hotel, and travel). While I'm not dissatisfied with my job, I hate doing the same thing all the time so doing 2 different jobs would be more enjoyable for me.
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>>123931829
How do you know somebody isn't 50/50 with way lower vit to compensate? Don't presume. That's what I've always done.
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25/50 or 50/25 for Robin hood build?
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>>123931990
Yeah I thought it was really dumb. The idea of people becoming beasts because of the hubris of Mensis was really fitting. And then they just fucked it all up for whatever reason.

>>123932020
A bit low.
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Anyone got that code for the chalice with the merchant bath on layer 1?
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>>123932384
50/50 or bust family
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>>123931924
Everyone seems to be a moralfag from what i've seen online. Also Simon gives you the blade.

Found the text

>Oh, my.
>Just as I feared.
>Then a beast-possessed degenerate was I, as my detractors made eminently clear
Does the nightmare never end?!"

I was wearing a church set and told him no.
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>>123931829
Lucifer is a fucking tard. I'm a newfag that started dark souls with PTDE and even I know what a quality build is. 27/40 is my favorite build. Running around with 2 6.0 weight quality weapons like the claymore and the sks. Being able to switch weapons midfight to throw off my opponent. Could even switch to 2handed kumo if I wanted to. I miss it
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>>123932197
>>123932167
>>123932291
I mean I just killed Eileen but since I made low level hunters I'll just do the quest since I can't be assed to level up my other dude
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>>123932493
Here you go

8i29rqz3
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>>123932384
I went 45/25 SKL/BT for Bow and the Bow portion hits like a fuckign wet noodle.

Would say you'll need 50BT to get any decent damage out of it.
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>>123931642
What I don't understand about the 'MP is causing the beast scourge' notion is that people have been turning into beasts long before MP was beckoned, and they do so periodically.
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paleblood lad
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>>123930195
Left: 8/10 pretty neat scholar samurai
Right: 2/10 generic waifushit desu
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>>123932627
Arighty thanks, was worried the bow would be garbage if I didn't go full tinge.
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>>123932521
>moralfag
>not giving the poor soul a rest
your are the worst kind of edge
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>>123932576
Cheers m8 much appreciated.
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>tfw maxing bloodtinge out and upgrading your firearm first

melee is great and all, but nothing beats blowing chunks out of bosses with primed repeater shots. can't wait to grab me some gatling gun.
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>>123932712
"poor soul"
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>>123932456
It could still be due to Mensis. If people have the cursed blood all along, but only beast out periodically, when the red moon hangs low, then it's still caused by the Mensis ritual, even if that isn't the catalyst.
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Howe the fuck do i beat cursed watchdog senpai
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>>123932698
No, but seriously, what kind of cheating device did you use to get the rat eyes and ayy lmao face?
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>>123932178
Yea, NG+ is honestly kind disgusting.

The jump in difficulty from NG is hilarious. You're basically fucked unless you built your character correctly.

Trying to take my first (poorly made) character into DLC NG+ was a huge waste of time and I ended up making a new character.
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>>123932639
>"When the red moon hangs low, the line between man and beast is blurred. And when the Great Ones descend, a womb will be blessed with child.

>"The Mensis ritual must be stopped, lest we all become beasts."

Seems pretty clear to me, MP just super charges beast hood turning everyone into beasts.
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>>123932767
ludwig did nothing wron
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>>123931010
Yeah? Neat. I need to catch up, volume 19 atm.
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>>123932782
Summon Queen Killer or set a password and let us do it for you.
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>>123932698
The only part I'm not sure of is the 'mouth'. Is that a moustache, or a marking?
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>>123932887
We'll you picked the prime time to do that. Shit's happening now
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Does the gatling gun ever become useful for damage? If so, how much bloodtinge should you put into it to be fairly feasible?
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I have a level 90 build with, 40 vit, 15 end, 40 skl and 26 blt.

What should I level it up to to make a proper build and with what weapons?
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>>123932704
Awesome! Thanks man.
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>>123930195
They don’t look very old.
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New thread where
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>>123932782

Queen Killer gets fucked every time the guy's useless shit
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>>123931034
>How is it different from 40/40
There's a tradeoff. At 98 you can go 10/50 with high vit and still allocate residual points into other stats, like a few in BT to give you reiter access and several in arc to use hunter tools. 40/40 means you can't do that without dipping into your stack of vit.

>>123931034
So post a 'strength' or 'skill' build at 120? The point of a build is to be specific. There should be a tradeoff in stat allocation if you invest in something other than vit+scaling stat. If I want a character that uses arcane effectively, that character should see a decrease in arcane effectiveness if I choose to heavily invest in another scaling stat. Same goes for something like strength. If I have high strength but also want some skill weapons, I can deallocate from strength and put them in skill. This would allow something like a simple 'strength' build to coexist without always being an inferior 'strength-weighted quality' build.
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bloodletter is a fucking machine
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>>123930638

Mine is >>123930904
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>>123932639
It seems that mankind's contact with great ones seems to force that change into the extreme. The corrupted blood in their veins forces them to either face that reality or succumb to it, and become a beast.
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So why did From abandon having only english VAs like DeS and DaS (and I think even DaS2)?
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>>123932906
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>>123932952
It's a long range Flamesprayer, it won't do much extra damage even with 50 BLT but it's good for pressuring. You basically can't run away from one once the trigger's held down.

>>123933075
Cause now they have the money
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What should I put points in if I want to use the bow blade? I'm using the Cain rn As my starting weapon for this character.

Also, I have limited internet for my ps4 however if I used my mobile hotspot and used a glyph would I be able to download that chalice dungeon to my game or would I have to have a steady connection?
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>>123933010
The ground smash damage is pretty ridiculous. Enough to give an unsuspecting player PTSD
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>>123932783
no cheating. I can't seem to recreate him though, so I suppose the moon was just right.

>>123932929
proper indent bro, how else would he eat?
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>>123933075
Probably because this game has speaking enemies.
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>>123933000
>So post a 'strength' or 'skill' build at 120?
We were talking about quality builds m8. Here's a 118 quality build with 50/50.

To achieve it you have to lower your VIT and END.
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>>123932835
Those notes imply the MP may be catalyzing the beast scourge, but there's no way he's the one who started it since beasts have existed since before his contact with humans.
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>>123933120
Hiring a company from outside of japan to get VAs would cost more money than just having jap VAs.
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>>123933189
Did you use the circle tattoo to give your character the Pthumerian mouth hole?
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>>123933189
So you just physically moved the mouth back enough to do that?
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>>123933145
holy slav batman
put points into bloodtinge for the arrow damage and skill for the blade form, you don't need to have a good connection to use the glyphs in the spreadsheet, just as long as you can be in online mode
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>>123933120
Is there a gun that becomes beastly with enough bloodtinge in the DLC? I've messed around with arcane the most, and then skill, then finally strength, but I've never really done anything with bloodtinge before. I want to have fun with guns for a change.
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>>123933189
Damn, your clever use of angles in the previous screens had me fooled. I didn't even see the glasses frame. So all you really did was upturn his nose, give him glasses with big yellow lenses, and turn his face gray?

10/10
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>>123931447
Oh fuck it's you again rad. I tried to follow the instructions you gave last time. Ain't nowhere near as good as yours but I did make a pretty convincing Ebrietas follower. Thanks Alien friend.
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>>123933145

You get physical damage boosts from your skill and arrow damage boosts from your bloodtinge. If you only care about one mode then only raise the one, if you want to use both raise both, to a level dependent on your target invasion/co-op range.
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>>123933010

>running around hamlet area
>invader guy shows up wielding a little mace
>stabs himself with it and it grows 10x bigger
>mfw

that guy hit like a monster truck
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>>123933000
>>123933225
Now here's a 98 quality build.

Tell me, exactly what is the difference? I can easily achieve 40/40 and still retain that standard 40VIT for PVP.
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>>123932960

Respond please bbg
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So how come 98 is the new level to stop at? Is this some dank meme I missed?
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>>123933218
What does that have to do with it? Are you trying to say that japs just dont give a fuck about npcs?
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>>123933340
Repeater pistol + Bone marrow ash out dpses every other gun short of a +10 Blunderbass at point blank.

Piercing rifle is a slower Evelyn with piercing through multiple targets and Church cannon is pre-nerf cannon with shorter range
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new: >>123933402
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>>123932698
Shit, thumbnail for ants. My bad.
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>>123933349
pretty much this, I just fucked up his face super good and it got a great result. The lighting in game reflects off his eyes and hides the lenses. He didn't look like he does in game on the character creator, he came out even better.

>>123933493
Good work lad, properly grotesque and you are your own alien. Pick up Amygdala arm as I did for extra ayy
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>>123933435
It's supposedly to avoid the 150fags while also claiming that you have to make reasonable 'sacrifices' at 98, when in reality you can still go to pretty much DR on 3 different stats.

Builds only truly exist at like BL60 where you can only do 2 stats close to DR, but the memers on bbg want their cake and to eat it.

Level to whatever the fuck you want m8.
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>>123933010

Speaking of that thing, is the untricked mode of any use or should I go full BLT for my Brador build?

>>123933435

It's a /bbg/ specific meta for organized PvP (mainly), low enough to reach down to 80 and avoid 150s. If it weren't for those two factors we'd probably just sit at an even 100 like other communities do.

I think in general 120 is fine for finding online activity, also leaves you better prepared for the high-octane gonk squads you'll find invading at anything above NG level, but there's a surprising variety of active level ranges in BB. I even find activity on my 150 with some regularity.
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>>123933667
This might be one of my favorite BB screenshots. When I finally get back into the game I'll probably make an ayy str/arc
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>>123933667
Please post sliders.
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>>123930195
I dunno if I should use this hat of the Constables
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>>123933805
>>123933818
Just really fuck shit up and play with colors and heavily shrinking sliders. that's all I told this guy >>123933493 and he got cool different results

More alien hunters are always welcome in pthumeru
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So how come I see the level sync icon next to some people's names but not necessarily on mine?
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>>123930904
Hello fellow scarecrow
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>>123930638
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>>123933843
bucket helm definitely feels more scarecrow to me.

>tfw no pumpkin head
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>>123930638
You better draw Ayybro
>>123933667
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>>123934116
It is nice, I just wish it matched the green shit better. Faust eye is hard to pass up though.
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>>123933381
40/40 is suboptimal compared to 50/25 or 25/50

also 40 vit is low even at 98
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>>123933435

hello reddit
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>>123931447
Ayy
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>>123934262
>40/40 is suboptimal compared to 50/25 or 25/50
Not for a quality build, which is what we were talking about. Do you understand how quality builds work?

>also 40 vit is low even at 98>>
40 is standard. Due to how percentages work when invading, going 45 or 50 only yeilds ~100HP,you're far better off putting 2 HP runes off and saving the VIT points.
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>>123934408
>spock fingers

Perfect.
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>>123934408
Ayyy
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What should be optimal for a Bloodletter build? 50 STR/25 BLT or 25/50?
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Anyone know a red jelly spot? I really wanna kill Pthumerian Queen and be done with chalices forever.
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>>123930638
Draw a collection of scarecrow hunters
>>123934007
>>123933843
>>123930904
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>finish off Ludwig with a visceral
So fucking satisfying.
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>>123930904
Fuck, I look more like a Vampire Hunter than a Scarecrow.
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>>123934565
Bumping for curiosity
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>>123934815
pure bt, it works like the chikage and its onehanded moveset is even worse so you can go base req str and 50 bt
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Starting my first arc character, when should I start investing points into arc? After killing vicar?
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>>123934441
>Not for a quality build, which is what we were talking about. Do you understand how quality builds work?
there's not a single weapon in game for which 40/40 STR/SKL is optimal
>"but i get to use more weapons this way"
you also cut yourself out of weapons. for example, you can't effectively use (S or A)/D STR/SKL weapons on a 40/40 build, like whirligig and kirkhammer

it's also 5 more points, where is where your missing VIT went. the VIT return function is rational up to 46, arguably 49. 40 is not uncommon if you need to scrape points but it's certainly not "standard"
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>>123934927
DO you know if bowblade is viable on a 25/50 build or is it more of a 50/25 weapon?
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Where the fuck is the new thread?
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>>123934565
Base strength and 50 Bloodtinge. It's worthless in its untricked mode.
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>>123933010
Worth going from 98 to 100 for? I have a 25 skill 50 bloodtinge character, and it looks pretty cool. Or is it str/blt?
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>>123935059
25skl/50bt
the otherway around is shit always, 50skl/10bt or 50/50 if you're a fag
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>>123935172
It's str
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>>123935206
is 50/50 faggy in a good way or a bad way?
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>>123932271
So the term comes from there, and for DeS, DkS, DkS2, and BB it's used to describe dual scaling, and you insist on saying it means dumping stats so you can use all weapons at max damage.

Do you know what it's called when everyone else uses a term for a specific thing and you make up your own definition and argue that it's legit because that's what you want it to mean?

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/upgrade-quality

>>123932379
Between 50-60 dollars an hour, strict contracts for deliverables, Sometimes non-compete agreements for x amount of months.

It's just extra income from home while I take care of the kids so I'm usually not doing them nonstop or else I couldn't actually care for the kids.

>>123932382
The person himself did not have lower vit. That'd be an entirely other affair, but it isn't the case as he himself admitted.

>>123932537
My favorite was Demon's Souls switching between Kilij and Hands of God. You take some weak swings at someone until they get aggressive with their range, and you switch to Kilij for a combo, and if that doesn't kill them switch back to the hands so you keep causing them to take range to be careful.
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>>123935119
Fuck, 11 points into the trash. Time to start again.
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I HATE UNDEAD GIANT.
I HATE HIM
I HATE HIM
I HATE HIM
FUCK

Let me get an opening without getting hit with fucking iron balls that one hit me!
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>>123935348
Most people consider 50/50 bad because of "muh 98 meta" but if you want to try it out you can always just save scum
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>>123935348

Bad way because muh pvp level

Go 50/50 if you want to. It lets you make the most of both modes in BLT-based trick weapons. However, that's a lot of investment, so expect to be a high level if you attempt to maximize those two stats, or you can sacrifice a lot of VIT, but that's pretty damn risky.
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>>123935119
not completely true. I saw some dude beating Sen's ass with the untricked version last night.
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>>123935453
I hate that shit. I was having enough trouble with INFINITE spiders, then undead giant is easy as shit oh wait one shot.
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>>123935485
>>123935541
Alright cheers

How much damage can you expect from bow shots? is it worthwhile to go for this build?
I like bows
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>>123935570
Not one that; but he does it CONSTANTLY.
Far away? Charging ball and chains.
You close? Spinning ball and chains.
Literally no way around it.
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>>123935453
>when he ground slams and insta-kills you
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>tfw 'farming' souls in pwmf22gu
>let the retards kill themselves in poison then Hunter's Mark and repeat
>playing Rocket League while waiting for dem moneyz to rack up

Nice.
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>>123935754
What do you need the souls for?
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>>123934565
25/50 works great. You can negate the cost of transforming by using the transform attack and the weapon is generally more fun if you have all your options open. a true minmaxer would leave the STR out of it because the trick mode is so beastly, but most people would have more fun with both modes to use. It's transform attacks are super fun/good.


>>123935450
Don't be retarded.

>>123935567
Exactly. The mace has a great moveset.
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The AoE lightning attack in Placenta-Man's bossfight always seems to be centered around Kos' corpse.

Is... is it Kos protecting her baby from beyond the grave? Are we forcing her to watch us perform a really violent abortion?
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I'm only at depth 3, everything is already a damage sponge that can almost oneshot me. Why did they make these so tedious?
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>>123936257
Is it really an abortion when the baby is moving around like a meth addict?
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>>123935453
>stand there and wait: the boss
>takes 100 hits to kill
>attacks are extremely easy to dodge but if you mess up once you have to start all over

Who thought this was a quality boss? It's not even hard, it just wastes your time with waiting and forces you to dodge 100 attacks perfectly or restart.
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>>123936173
i have a 50/25 STR/SKL build i just made, and i've been ridiculously lucky with Blunt gems (i got 3 good ones before 3 good phys gems). so i think that's miyazaki telling me to go get bloodletter and see if i can't make some kind of ultimate shitter 1h build out of it
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Can I get some help for Laurence? After I beat the orphan of Kos, his thing disappeared. The code is 1128a.
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>>123937602
coming
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>>123933010
>>123933368
>some guy with bloodletter ambushes me
>swings twice and misses both
>whatever it's probably just a pve weapon or something
>suddenly a what felt like endless wave of ground smashes
>if I didn't keep dodging he would've 2-hit me
>hits it into the ground when I get close
>I die instantly
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>>123937861
Great, want me to re-ring my beckoning Bell?
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>>123938139
It should work if you have the password. But better safe than sorry
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>farming silverbeasts in frontier for bolt gems
>killed them like 10 times each and only 1 for gem
How fucking long is this gonna take?
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>>123938139
You're in front of the fog gate, are you not?
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>>123936772
>It's not even hard, it just wastes your time with waiting and forces you to dodge 100 attacks perfectly or restart.
literally every chalice m8
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>>123935670
get behind the giant and make use of your i f r a m s
i
f
r
a
m
e
s
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>>123938478
Doesn't take long if you hit up a chalice.
>>123938629
Yeah I'm just down the steps of the fog gate. Don't wanna get too close or the little X shows up.
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>>123938745
hmm. gonna re-enter the zone, see if that helps
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>>123938875
I'll re-ring and be standing on top of the circular tile before the fog door.
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>>123939049
What's your bl? maybe the difference is too much and that's why it's taking so long
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>>123939194
124, NG+5 if that matters.
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>>123939275
OH geez, even If I we're able to get in there, my arrows would be but wind to Laurence. sorry, but I ain't a ng+ fag. Good luck, though
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so uh new thread when?
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>>123939390
Ah well thanks anyways man.
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>>123939473
give me an op pic
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Are %Phys + Flat Phys the best kind of bloodgem for the Rakuyo?
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