/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

Asking again because new:

Can anyone confirm that cooping with someone who has the beast claws (equipped?) unlocks them to be bought in your shop?

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>mfw TOH confirmed it's Kos

>>123869179
kosm was a mistake -micolash

Why do we consider Loran separate from the Old Labyrinth? Isn't it reached via a chalice, like all the other parts of Pthumerian society?

Is there any gameplay reason to carry insight? From what I've seen, it's all cons and no pros.

So lore?

>>123869097
>No, you don't have the flat gems to make the shotgun component powerful.
So wait, if you stack flat physical damage + gems, the gun on the riflespear becomes an effective damage weapon? I thought flat damage on the spread was a bug that got fixed

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>go to /bbg/
>retards still wreaking havoc, spreading misinfo like wildfire, and reproducing faster than bacteria
>get depressed and don't feel like playing Bloodborne
>come back in a few days for same results
literally uncomfy

>>123869269
>Not reveling in the knowledge

>>123869257
Because it's referred to as a separate civilization, and the dungeons in it are populated almost exclusively by beasts. I'm not sure if the idea is that it's a separate runs that just happens to look the exact same, or if it's a civilization that occupied part of the labyrinth, cleared out the watchers and then left their beasts down there when they collapsed.

>>123869348
It's a ploy to trick Vaati. We already got him to believe that the plip plop MY EYES WHERE ARE THEY head patient is Eileen because something it says sounds somewhat similar to the way Eileen says hoontah.

>>123869217
I haven't found any hyperarmor on it, at least compared to ludwig's. I have gotten some trades with charged R2 but it was really late in the animation, too late to rely on it. This was in PvE anyways, in PvP it probably works way better thanks to latency.

>>123869269
Higher beast bar iirc

>fighting orphan of kos second form
>lock on because he's really easy to dodge
>he jumps
>camera lock breaks
>spazzes out
>die because I cant see

im literally dying to the camera this is so dumb

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>grinding gems for new dlc weapons
>have to kill watchdog 4 times for each new build I made
>new summon
>Queen killer
>he does a ton of damage with his cannon and blows the fuck out of the watchdogs legs with his wheel
>makes the fight a complete joke

I like it. Getting great ihyll won't be so fucking infuriating now.

Why are there girls slugs but everyone else fish monsters? Were they trying to recreate Kos and impregnate her?

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>>123868980

Ludwig's fun, round two?

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Trying again:

BL 69, need help with Orphan (Especially someone who can tank, I'm a squishy caster).

>>123869456
Why do people watch that guy again

>>123869528
Good luck on your Cursed Pthumerian endeavor anon

Can you play the DLC before the 1.07 patch? I'm doing a new build but i don't want to do Chalice Dungeons again, so i'll do the pebble glitch.

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>>123869546
>tank

>>123869269
That's right. It reduces the effectiveness of beast blood pellets, reduces frenzy resistance and makes some enemies harder. The only plus side is that huge amounts of insight can permit you to see things in the game before they are normally visible, like the amygdalas in cathedral ward.

Otherwise, it's essentially just a currency used for summoning and buying things at the insight bath. Insight is your san, the higher it gets, the less sane you are. The only reason to hold any at all is to spend it.

>>123869456
I have been here since after my first playthrough and the DLC killed my fun here.

Also, link? This sounds fucking golden. I just get down when I can't read every single post at work to catch up the next day like I used to.
Literally confirms he comes here for ideas? Or did someone message him in a way?

>>123869597
My bad, as in just get up close and personal, keep him occupied.

>>123869658
Just parry, easiest boss on dlc

>>123869547
>>123869456
>type vaatividya into youtube's search bar
>the second autocomplete option is "vaatividya plagiarism"
Ha!

>>123869614
In his ascent the clock tower video he says that the church praying woman is Amelia because same prayer and same voice, even though it's a different voice.

And then he says the enlarged head patient looking for eyes in the poison water might be Eileen because of how he pronounces one word, and also same voice even though it's a different voice.

He'll probably make some video based on that dumbass from the last thread that thinks the hunter of hunters come from the fishing hamlet.

One nice hunter is already helping me with Ludwig, anyone wants to join?

Pass is plshelp.

>>123869727
It's not that easy and you know it.

>>123869592
No, that patch is the DLC. You need to set up all your builds before patching.

I think there where some impsobly good gems in the base version, so maybe it's easy to get ones comparable to the chalice gems.

>>123869727
Maria was easier to parry. A lot of my shots go over/under/through him when I try to parry his aggressive attacks, and even with 2 clawmark runes I'm parrying for less than 5% of his HP.

At least with my skill build I did reasonable up close damage.

>>123869801
Sorry, 2nd easiest. Living failures are easier.

>>123869494
Well I was fighting the church pick hunter and almost every attack he did staggered me, but when I used l2 to finish him off he hit me and I just powered through it. I wanted to know if it was hyperarmor or if he just used a non-staggering attack.

>>123869727
>easiest boss on dlc

He literally objectively isn't.

>>123869870
Orphan is the hardest fight in the main game family, quit lying.

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>>123869797
Join in for that hot Ludwig on Beast Ludwig action

>>123869592
Anon, the DLC IS the patch.

>>123869769
I'll have to watch this. I'll also have to put on adblock since I support youtubers with money that's not mine because why not.

>>123869797
sure let me turn on my ps4

I've bought and read ''the best of H.P lovecraft: bloodcurcling tales of etc "

Did I fuck him? Am I missing a lot?

>>123869906

Not him, but orphan isnt the hardest. I just one shotted him the other day on NG+

>>123869906
>Orphan is the hardest fight
Fucking what

Are there any statistics out there on how Bloodborne helped sell the PS4 specifically?

I can't think of any other game in the PS4 exclusive line-up that would be a bigger killer-app as Bloodborne. It's literally all I play on the fucking thing.

I hate Sony for holding it hostage like that but fuck me did it work

>>123869939

waiting at the fog door.

>>123869967
He's not harder in general, but of all the DLC bosses he's the hardest to deal with as an Arcane build.

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Post your hunters!

>>123869769
To be fair, that video is more of a first impressions or lets play even, really just him dicking around in the lore.

Which really doesn't seem to be worth editing a video for.

>>123869992
Name a harder boss.

>>123869949
yes there's a lot of stories
also read The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath it's pretty neat

>>123870025
>as an Arcane build.
You can cheese the first form with augur. Just dodge behind and punish every attack with a backstab

>>123869820
Oh yes, i forgot about that. Thanks.
What is the maximum % of the gems you can find outside the CDs?

>>123870036
Ludwig was harder than him

Ludwig vs Artorias on the same rules (either all BB combat or DaS), who would win?

>>123869992
Discounting chalices, he is senpai.
>>123869967
Bullshit.

>>123870052
I will, maybe I find the complete works at the library.

Is 18 end good for a skl build or is it to high? With pvp in mind

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>>123870030
Ludwig cosplay on a character not named Ludwig, why must I make such blunders?

>>123870025

Dude i want shotted him on NG+ with my arcane pizza cutter.

>>123870034
Same video he mentions a prepare to cry about Maria, even though literally everything about Maria is just speculation, possible retcons, potential mistranslations between English and Japanese, and logic stretching.

At this point Maria is just a student Gehrman had the hots for who admired him in turn, was related to the vileblood queen through a mother of a cousin of a sister of an uncle of a brother twice removed, and is the basis for the doll.

>>123870062
I'll give that a shot, thanks.

What about second form?

>>123870160
I haven't got the str for pizza cutter

>>123870091
Ludwig's pretty easy, mate. You can beat the firstform by dodging forward though every attack into the blindspot under him and mashing R1. You can literally corner him and mash R1 until the second form. 2nd is only threatening because it shits damage. Attacks are slow and telegraphed with short active times and he's really easy to knock down. I visceraled him 3 times on NG+ by just mashing R1 in his crotch.

>>123870176
>What about second form?
You're SOL. Still, it's a more easily surmountable boss when you only have to fight half of his hp bar legit.

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grinding kos builds is suffering

>>123870142
let's pray for anon to ring his bell

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>sitting on a roof of shortcut building in Hamlet in my comfy hunter attire, with rifle and lost bowblade
>rainy weather, constant invaders trying to climb and getting snak'd right on a ladder in a process
God this is perfect.
This is hands down the best invasion and hosting spot in whole series. Ambient sounds, sound of rain itself, gamma, everything is just perfect and sets up some great mood for playing as an arcane archer of sorts.

>>123870074
22% cursed gems from the brain ladies. They're droplets, so that's something at least.

I think the base version had flat 99s, so the equivalent should be 35% or so. Though you should look up if the patch doesn'T remove impossible gems from your inventory before you bother getting any.

>>123870183
Doesn't change the fact that Orp "all my attacks miss, are parriable, and i'm constantly open to free viscerals" han is easier.

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>Beasthunter Saif
>Although this trick weapon allows for adaptive combat, it was later replaced by saws and similar weapons that were more effective at disposing of beasts.
>Is better than any of the saw weapons

Explain

>>123870304
With a melee build yes, Ludwig is a piece of piss with Arc.

>>123870280
>22% cursed gems from the brain ladies
They also drop 24% blunt.

Is it worth investing levels into ARC for the Empty Phantasm Shell? I'm doing a basic 25/50 SKL-based build and I'm wondering if lowering my VIT is worth it.

>>123870280
they only drop physical gems?

so is it ever explained how often hunts happen? Also what would life in yharnam be like outside of hunts?

>>123869906
Maria is the hardest, nigga.

>>123870173
>prepare to cry
>maria

????

I mean like you said...gehrman student. Female. Gehrman really liked her. She didn't like what she was involved in so she killed herself. Vaguely related to the vilebloods. A doll exists.

There is literally no prepare to cry material except "aww she kiled herself" all the fucking sad stuff is about gehrman holy shit vaati

>>123870340
Doesn't the saw cleaver deal serration damage? It literally gets a damage bonus vs beasts.

Also, according to speedrunners, saw cleaver is still higher DPS and more efficient pve weapon. Saif is effective at pvp but it's not better than the cleaver at beastkilling.

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>>123870260
>>123869939
We await thee

>>123869179
>1 post late

You're slipping

>>123870340
It's less effective at killing beasts and requires way more skill to wield so it was replaced by something even newfriend hunters could use.

>>123870004
you still ringing or there's 3 already?

>>123870173
Yeah, but the prepare to cry stories were always just speculations in somewhat decent form. They're simple, more or less self contained stories and nothing more.

It's not much, but if people want to pay him for that that's their buisness.

>>123870440
Hell, even the fact that she killed herself is suicide. We infer it from the status of her 'corpse' but there's hardly concrete evidence to decisively confirm it.

>>123869873
Oh I was talking R2, I don't know if L2 has any hyperarmor.
Will try when I get home.

>>123870482
ringing

>>123870450

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>>123870267
Are you sitting at 25 Arcane, Bloodtinge and Skill or something

>>123870232
Are Parasite of Kos arcane builds even worth it?
If you combine it with the Blacksky Eye and Augur of Ebrietas it probably eats through all your bullets in seconds.

Have you Made Contact today?

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>farming 5pwujscd watchers since last night
>tempering
>tempering
>tempering
>tempering
>temperingtemperintemperintempering

These guys do drop arcane, right?

>>123870540
i'm ringing too
guess the PSN is fucked up again

>>123870493
They certainly had a lot more to go on most of the time than Maria. Even her outfit is about Gehrman.

The bit about her swords is weird too since she goes, "oh gross," and throws them away. Then gets a replica but now it eats blood even though she didn't like blood supposedly.

>>123870368
no way
just use papers

>>123870543
i don't have any cool webms yet, but from what i've seen yes they are. the L2 strike a pose is godly

>>123870443
>according to speedrunners, saw cleaver is still higher DPS and more efficient pve weapon

I think you've mispelled "saw spear"

>>123870590
worldwide + plshelp as pass?

>>123869769
>>123869910
>>123870034
>>123870173
>>123870440

Please stop talking about Vaati. It triggers me.

>>123870587
don't brainsucker bosses drop the best ones?

>>123870443
So a saw cleaver/spear for beasts and a saif for humanoids/hunters? What does best damage to ayy lmaos?

Reminder that if you're a vileblood, you're highranked trash and i will find you

>>123870697
yup the game just disconnect me one time
fucking sony and their shitty servers

>>123870725
Ayys are weak to thrust.

>>123870601
Yeah, him making the video is probably more about the popularity of the character.

Still, with some purple prose one should be able to fill 7ish minutes.

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Sitting here waiting for the third summon when suddenly my Wii U turns on to display Fatal Frame ad, guys I'm spooked.

>>123870725
Stop calling Kin Ayy Lmaos you piece of shit fucking end yourself

>>123870647
L2 hits through walls and on a 50 ARC character with the right gems can hit for upwards of 1.4k to 2k for a measly 2 bullets. It's ridiculously overpowered, much better than a Call Beyond.

The best thing is that even non-arcane builds with 20 base ARC can use it for gank spank if they use flat ARC gems.

>>123870513
Technically yeah. I mean it's implied so much that it's a safe bet but even THAT is unconfirmed.

>>123870801
>Ayy
>Lmao
>Celestial Ayy Lmao

>>123870770
Hah, you haven't seen anything yet
I waited for 1 hour at a dungeon for someone to connect, suddenly "session lost"
1 hour, anon
1 hour

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>>123870795
It's okay, anon. Everything is fine.

>>123869173
It doesn't, why would it?

>>123870795
Yeah having a Wii U must be horrible, feel bad for you.

>>123870770
>>123870450

did one try, ringing by the fog now.

>>123870857
No, it isn't. The supposed coffin behind her can be a War memorial, why would she want to be infront of a giant astral portal? The chalice is just a chalice, we don't know if it's poison and all the blood on the floor could be due to her powering up to kill the last interloper.

>>123870952
It's j-just for smash guys

>>123870587

I'm not sure if it's Watchers you're going to want to farm for that.

If they do drop it, expect at least 50 runs to get a gem that has a shitty curse.

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i'm going to kill myself soon

>>123870985
Ew

>>123870340

Sexy dashing moves probably got too many idiots killed so they had to make the training wheels versions.

>>123871032
We already died on the inside when we bought this game hunter

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>>123870985
>he doesn't squidloli

>>123870970
The biggest indication is the fact that she calls herself a corpse, ad only becomes aggressive when the player disturbs her. It seems to be implying that she wishes to remain dead, from which you can infer that the stuff around her are circumstantial evidence of suicide.

On a different note: why doesn't Maria take damage when she stabs herself with her swords? She's obviously vulnerable to stabbing or else your attacks wouldn't deal any damage, but she doesn't hurt herself when she does it.

>>123870815
Gives me hope. I should be grinding for ARC ATK UP+% instead of Add arcane ATK+ at 50 Arcane shouldn't I?

>>123870232
Holy fuck what was that FPS drop?

>>123870232
Did you just drop frames so hard that you got hurt?

>church put in all this effort to hide a secret
>there wasnt a secret
???

>>123871156
I don't know if it;s just me, but the game's FPS has been awful since the patch. I was watching a slideshow through Laurence's fight and Ludwig's second form dropped be to single-digit fps whenever he used one of the glowy swings.

The orphan was actually a godsend because my fps was finally smooth without it spamming any fancy particles

>>123871254
>Kos just washed up on shore already dead
>what killed it? Oh that doesn't matter and you'll never get to know
>the orphan doesn't actually matter in the grand scheme of the lore
>the whole big secret or whatever is just a nanking allegory that's explained to you outright by an NPC at the start of the area, making the whole rest of it pointless
Not gonna lie, the dlc's lore was kind of shit. You could've stopped and turned around at the beginning of the hamlet because the story essentially ends there. You only go through it and fight the boss because videogames.

>>123871254
That's what I got from this DLC, too.

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>japanese invaders hiding behind mobs even against a lone host
Sometimes i wish there was a seed from DS2 in super limited quantities which you could not use with friendly phantoms in your world just to shit on niggers like this one.

What a fight!

Thank you anons.

>>123871254
The church was responsible for the blood curse. They were trying to hide it at all costs so noone suspected they were the cause.

>>123871156
>>123871260
I've been noticing certain areas like forbidden woods and yahar'gul feels more laggy lately.

>>123871116
She doesn't call herself a corpse, she just said "A Corpse, should be left well alone" which could easily mean Kos's corpse.

There is 0 reason why she would commit suicide in the first place when she was seeking redemption by helping the patients and guarding the Astral Clock Tower. Even Martyr Logarius endured worst conditions then her and he's just a bony corpse.

>>123871254
>Burgerworth pulled a Nanking and got their ass cursed, resulting in generations of hunters trying all sort of superstitious shit in order to ward of the inevitable outcome of the curse

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>>123871425
>liberating cute tormented hunters from the curse of an orphan squid god isn't a worthy cause

What kind of build should I go for for dlc weapons? Skill?

Haven't played since release really and my first character was str kirkhammer.

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>>123871514
Don't thank me
Thank our guiding moonlight

>>123871478
They probably assume that you're progressing through the level and they'll serve as an obstacle. It really kind of defeats the purpose of invading when you invade a host that's already beaten the stage and is just lingering for duels. I wish you could filter between pvpfags looking for a fight and hists with summons that are advancing through a stage. The latter is by far more fun to invade since they actually have an incentive to hunt you and you can function as a part of the area's challenge like intended.

>>123871254
the fuck are you talking about?

>>123871583
>seeking redemption by helping the patients
What? She helps patients because she was their caretaker. That was her literal job. Read her key's

>>123871668
There are weapons for every build but STR will get everything before the first boss, SKL is distributed throughout and BLT & ARC get's their best goodies at the end.

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>there's a grave with lone lumenflower in fishing hamlet
>it is known that Maria threw original Rakuyo in the well
>there's lumenflower petals all over clock tower and on another grave near the astral clocks
What does this mean?

>>123871742
She's a Cainhurst and a Vileblood, there's 0% probabilty that she's employed by the church to take care of all their failures.

The only explanation is that she's self appointed, she's taking care of them after she took out all of the church members that tried to enter the fishing village again.

>>123871750
Pretty clear that Maria is very guilty over the crap that she and the other hunters pulled in the hamlet. Probably part of the reason why she doesn't want anyone trying to set the hunters free from the nightmare and is protecting the secret in the first place.

/dsg/ is so full of fucking retards and ds2 cancer. Can I stick here with you guys; I can't handle the shitposts anymore?

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>>123871704
I hate that this area slowly becomes a pvp zone and not a free invasion area.
I was sitting there yesterday and amount of MLG faggots with cookie cutter builds is hilarious. I just want to be ganked goddamn.

Anybody up for helping do Ailing Loran? Im on layer 2.
Password is boss.

>>123871747
Ok I think I'm going to go skill. I've never done any bt/arc build are they easy to get into? I would have to look up what they even are.

Would 50 vit, 50 str, 16 end and 15 arc be a god build for beast claws?
And are hey better than they were before?

Bloodletter worth it for PvE?

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>27.2% physicals are just blink and done

>27.2% arcane is like pulling teeth from those whalers in the hamlet

>>123871872
You can always stay here good hunter
Just don't be vileblood trash

>>123871915
Good*

>>123871902
For BLT, you're stuck with Chikage and Evelyn all the way until you get the Bloodletter 7/8ths of the way through the DLC.

For ARC, you need to look up the Arcane gem farming guides or you will be lost as sheep. The good news is that as an ARC, you have a shit ton of hunter tools + the ability to make any physical weapon into an ARC weapon if you meet their requirements

>>123871924
It's a straight upgrade to the Chikage.

So I am going for 15 arcane to add arcane buff to my weapon, currently still at 14 so I can't test myself but is the following statement correct?

Even at only 15 arcane you do more damage each swing with arcane buff applied than you do if you attacked unbuffed. Even against arcane resistant enemies: buffed damage > non buffed

Hopefully it's true because I need a reason to justify going for 15 arcane since I started at 6..

So what did happen at the Hamlet?
I know the Hunter's raped the crops and burned the women, but why? And when?

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How far into the dlc do you get whirligig saw?

>>123872043
Gem farming in chalice dungeons? I don't have Internet for my ps4 just enough to get updates.

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>>123871668
for 98:
41
20 (can exchange for more vit)
20
12
5
50

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>>123871935
You don't know the true pain of making a lost bowblade.

>>123872141
Before first boss

>>123872141
Before the first boss so pretty early, you find it down a path from the second bonfire.

>>123872141
in the first hour you should be able to get it.

>>123872084
Yes, it adds a flat 50 to your damage. Even against the most resistant enemies, you'll see your damage increase by 3-5.

>>123872136
>Skull of a local from the violated fishing village. The inside of the skull was forcibly searched for eyes, as evidenced by innumerable scratches and indentations.

>>123872043
I'm a lvl 83 Arc character, any guide on gem farming would be appreciated.

I have decent wanning gems with Bolt and Fire dmg, but no ARC ones and haven't fine a good famring area for Radials and Triangulars, nor do I know what type of gem slots are best for each weapon type.

I read somewhere that Radial Radial Triangular is best for physical weapons, what about other types?

>>123872219
I see.
So did the Church assume the fishers were in contact with Kos?

Will they ever fix tracking and delayed actions?

>>123872184
How big is the difference between at 29% and a 32% really? I got like 2-3 29 gems and i'm not sure i can physically handle more farming of that.

>>123872141
You can speedrun to that spot in 10 minutes if you know where to go.

>>123871935
pls im getting all arcane and i want physicals.

>>123872136
Burgers found out about Kos and went to go fuck with her and the other villagers for the same reasons they've done everything else in this story. It just so happened that Kos was pregnant at the time and her newborn had some understandable objections about what they were doing. This all happened pretty early on during the time of the first hunters, possibly even before Laurence broke off.

>>123872285
3% is a pretty big deal for S scaling weapons.

>>123872136
The presence of a great one's corpse morphed the village into fish people and they came to worship it. Byrgenwerth came along, with a vague understanding of great ones and insight and decided to turn the villagers into research subjects and performed violent autopsies and other such violation in the pursuit of knowledge.

This is why Micolash prays to Kos. The research done in the finishing hamlet on the cosmos and great ones became seminal for the development of Yharnam's scholarly understanding of the higher planes.

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>>123872290
My first time playing the dlc so wont rush

Also
>finally get to the dlc just now
>first hunter
>ive refrained from finding out much about the weapons except whiriligig saw so i get surprised
>hunter appears with cleaver
>neat
>proceeds to slap my shit up and down
Hold me ;_;

>>123872356
>>123872376
Ah, so it was Byrgenwerth.
Thanks.

>>123872285
If you have 3 of them, that's a 9% boost to your overall damage. That's huge for a weapon with big scaling.

So what was the deal with heavy/sharp gems being better than tempering?
Was that all a hoax or do I just need better gems/higher stats?
The AR resultant from the ones I had was quite bad.

>>123872478
The npc at the beginning straight up tells you it was byrgenwerth. It's first lines are literally "byrgenwerth... byrgenwerth..."

Currently level 109. Can I still reliably find coop?

>>123872356
>>123872376
Why the fuck was Kos dead?

>>123872571
Still in range of the 98 fags so yeah

>>123871867
I'd love to see a different angle on it where Maria isn't so "oh im so sad and guilty" and she's more "this is what we deserve. im not letting you enter the fishing village because this horrible nightmare is what we deserve for what we did."

outright preventing people from finding the village because she doesn't want people to be free'd from it. it'd be pretty cool.


side note what fucking 4chan extension do people use nowadays all of mine are broken and wont display a captcha in the quick reply

>>123872528
Yet we see Choir enemies in the research hall and church hunters at the altar.

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>A bottomless curse, a bottomless sea,
>accepting of all there is and can be

Shivers anyone else?

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>>123870030

>>123872607
Never, ever explained. It washes up into our plane of reality already a corpse for reasons entirely unexplained. Maybe it died of illness or age and great ones aren't as immortal as we thought, maybe it was killed by another great one or some other creature in its home reality.

It's never explained, and supposedly doesn't really matter.

>>123872242
You'll want radials, radials and triangles for most ARC weapons, unless you want bolt because Waning gems in general suck
You'll want to farm Keeper NPC hunters, you can chain infinite backstabs on them if you use the Auger and they are incredibly dumb for constantly walking into your Blackeye in a corridor

Use Isz F+R+C cb7jig9p for your radial arcane
Use Lower Loran F+R+C 56428adr for your Radial Fire/Bolt
Use Ihyll F+R+C kkvk8gsj for the Abyssal Cold gem from the Pthumerian Elder boss, there's a glitch that will super charge your Arcane weapon with one & only one of this.

>>123872616
What's the max level I could go to and still find a decent amount of players? I don't like handicapping myself for no reason but I also want to play with other people.

>>123872658
The church came from byrgenwerth.

>>123872676
Wow nice, you actually created He-man.

>>123872486
Oh, so you use 3 bloodtinge gems? I had no idea they existed on more than circle slots. BACK TO FARMING I GUESS

>forced to spend insight on trash like bloodchunks because i max out frequently
>5 million echoes because i already maxxed out bullets and vials.

If I want lots of chunks do I have to go through the chalice dungeons? I remember them being boring as fuck on my first playthrough, I never even got past the ones you get from bosses.

>>123872514
Only Abyssal Gems have the buff, there's no sharp abyss gems that can be easily farmed. It's amazing for ARC build because it can be used on any of their weapons

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>>123872676
Jesus fuck

>>123872607
Doesn't really matter.
She still interacts with the world.

>>123872658
Research hall was built much later.
I think that originally village was a part of physical realm. Orphan pulled it into nightmare and to rediscover it church spent a shitton of time making astral clock tower.

>>123872607
No clue. Either the hunters managed to kill her themselves or she was killed by another great one.

Doesn't seem to make much of a difference since the guy at the start seems to be aware of Orphan but doesn't point out that Kos is dead and instead is praying for her to curse Byrgenwerth. Maybe the carcass is entirely metaphorical.

>>123872847
Or the rape of the hamlet continued from the time Byrgenwerth discovered it all the way through the church's founding.

>>123872792
Use jemmjmpi - Isz FRC

Drop down into the pit
Take the tunnel that doesn't have a witch's summon lurking in it
Don't pick up the shiny, there's a teleport trap in front of it
The only path forward leads to the lever and a brainsucker
Kill it and the boss to get 3 insight and 2 chunks with high discovery. Repeat this 8 times for every weapon you want fully upgraded.

>>123872767
>>123872486
>>123872285
>>123872369
>>123872184

Where can I farm Warm Radials? What stats am I looking for?

>>123872734
Dude I can get pvp and co-op regular even at level freaking 200+ but I would say maybe 120 or lower?

>>123871993
>>123871915
Anyone?

>>123872792
Yes, unless you have an endless supply of Insight to spend. They're ONLY 30/chunk at the insight messenger bath.

>>123872725
Wow awesome. I always thought scaling didn't matter much, so how does the Abyssal work here? Should I look for % dmg bonuses or flat dmg?

Does insight do anything in the DLC

>>123872712
Maybe it was difficulties during pregnancy?
The orphan had a fucking bladed placenta for god sake.

Speaking of the Orphan, if Kos died before she/it washed up onto the shore; how did it have a vaguely human shaped offspring?

Would imply it has had human contact before, right?
It'sdifficult to know what is actually happening in the BB world and what is just a dream.
The game itself takes place in a dream, so who's to say that the game isn't just the most lucid dream ever and any of it really happened?

>>123873095

Yes, to summon help for rape horse

>>123873179
Kos herself has human features. She has a human face on one end of her long body with tentacles for hair, and arms with hands and fingers

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>all those babies summoning NPCs for Rom allowing me to invade them on a spot
old bell was a great idea

>>123873024
What the fuck? That's ridiculous. I could understand if it was rocks.

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>>123870030

>>123873334
you're the reason i have a night light near my bed

>>123873334

what level is active there?

>>123872827
Doesn't look bad with flat lighting like in the character creator, but looks p bad here, now that I get a good look.

Wish the character creator wasn't deceptive at times.
Point lights make faces look awful.

>>123873334
If you invade at the hut in the dlc you'll find the same situation

>>123873179
I want to say the fact that it has a kin form and the fact that it's kos' child despite great one children being stillborn means something but honestly I do not know.

Maybe kos wasn't even pregnant when it washed up and the orphan is the result of experiments with the body since all we know is it was full of parasites. Maybe orphan was stillborn but like other great ones can still have effect in the nightmare.

>>123873179
>>123873296
Maybe Kos was some kind of Kin?

>>123873296
Got a picture?
I can't view that from my current location.

>>123872847
Well, the nightmare isn't really pulling things in, it's preserving the image of something from long ago and forcing hunters that have died to relive it. Take Laurence for example, the sacred addage is in the Cathedral outside the nightmare, while he's still alive and kicking in the nightmare. So the nightmare is basically a purgatory where hunters go when they die for good.

What I really don't get is why there are two cathedrals, and in one Laurence has a human skull, while in the other he's the first cleric beast. Maybe it's just supposed to be depicting two different points in time, but then the human skull that 'only' exists in the nightmare is fucking strange.

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>farm for 2 hours
>HP gradually depletes
i love grinding for stupid shit lmao

>>123873512
>I want to say the fact that it has a kin form and the fact that it's kos' child
>kin form
What?
You mean his wings?

>>123873512
>Maybe kos wasn't even pregnant
How often do creatures that aren't pregnant grow placenta?

>>123873625
When he grows wings he's considered kin. Kin gems do extra damage to him.

His first form is not considered kin. Go fucking figure.

Someone is ready for being raped by orphan of kos with me?
jokes asides someone want some jolly cooperation for oprhan of kos? pass is bbg

>>123873625
Yeah, it's treated as a kin for the purpose of damage calculations in the second phase. + kin damage gems work on it, but only after it changes forms.

So you guys using any of the new runes?

I'm liking guidance but I don't know if its worth trading out some of the better ones from the main game.

Actually what runes do most people use anyways.

>>123873674
>>123873715
The fuck?
That's weird as hell.

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>mfw Bowblade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHW8hxmkV5E

I've been having loads of fun with this thing, but I'm worried it might be somewhat OP? Not sure but it just feels like it's grotesquely effective. Opinions?

>>123873093
Which weapon are you using? Any fast weapons benefit more from +flat gems because they have very low moveset multipler. Kos parasites and slow weapons get a bigger boost from % dmg. Nobody knows why the Cold Abyssal gems are so powerful, just that they are and only one works.

>>123873568
Human skull represents what he loss, it's not really his skull at all. Maybe its ornamental or something or his memories/humanity taken physical form

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Why do some of the beast things in the nightmare cower in fear even if you havnt got a torch equipped?

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>>123873625
So ideally, what kind of Chikage and Bloodletter do I want (Normal, Uncanny or Lost?) and what gems am I farming for.
I have a 14str 25skl 50blt character who needs to start gem hunting, what and where and I spelunking to?

>>123873796
the actual light from the sun/moon/bigeye thing on the sky
or maybe they see how their friends are being raped by hunters day by day and just scared

>>123873796
They can see the face of your hunter.

Does anyone know if the -physical attack vs beast/kin gems on tempering gems affect pvping against beast/kin form players? I still can't find the answer anywhere. If it reduces damage I'm gonna have to farm new gems.

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Is it just me or Bloodletter really feels like a pthumerian weapon and not something created by the church?
It's pretty much a blood version of Elder's staff. Chikage and other blood blades are only able to imbue the blade with blood, but bloodletter actually forms a solid structure from it, something that no other weapon in the game does.

So why are half the classes completely useless?
I can't find a good reason to start as anything that isnt' military veteran, violent past or cruel fate.
Or is there ever a reason to level both BLT and ARC?

>>123873912
I feel bad for killing them now ;_;

The AYY broccoli form is too much fucking fun.

>>123873516
Maybe?
Maybe not?

>>123873703
someone pls?

>>123873796
They can't die for real and locked in repeated cycle of getting slaughtered by mad hunters.
You tell me.

We will never know. but seriously it really bugs me trying to work out what could the meaning behind that be. theres no way he would have a regular and kin form without some kind of reasoning for it.

>>123874064
sympathy for a beast?

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>>123873512
>>123873516
I just realized something.

What is this thing that the Orphan is pulling out with it when it comes out of Kos?
It might just be after birth, but I'm wondering if it's the actual offspring of Kos, cause it looks like something and not just nothing.

Though if we are to assume that this is true than where the fuck did the human come from?
And why does it still have a placenta if it's pretty much already developed? Unless I'm an idiot and don't know how baby forming works

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>>123874097
Indeed.

>>123874294
I think that bladed thing IS the placenta.

>>123873963
Kek

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>>123873912
Please make a rendition of the goblins and hunter of pic related

I want to dump all my Insight before going to nightmare of mensis, what's the best insight item to buy and then sell to convert insight to blood echoes?

>>123874315
I fucking love that you can just style all over people.

>>123874358
I know that that is a placenta. I'm saying that if the human thing is the orphan nearly fully developed; than why does it still have a placenta?

>>123874294
>And why does it still have a placenta if it's pretty much already developed?

You know human children have placenta's attached when they're born right?

Unless you mean developed as in he's a fully grown human in which case no fucking clue. It's why I wonder how likely it is that maybe hewas an experiment to make a great one child but that whole line of thinking doesn't really make any sense.

>>123874315
I've never seen that move where you shoot little tentacles out, not even in a weapon showcase I watched. Is there some secret to it?

>>123873703
>>123874167

Where are you ringing at?

>>123874517
Just equip the Kos Parasite and Milkweed rune.

>>123874508
Great Ones are weird man.
Maybe that's just how he came out.
Fuck if I know.

>>123874294
>>123874508

The human form of the Orphan makes me think that he's actually a successful case of adoption. Maybe one day a flying Manatee women swop down and stuffed some old guy into a womb then died before she can convert him into a flying Manatee old one. First form would be him still holding on to his past life and 2nd form is him embracing Kinhood

>>123874517
Transform attack. Weapon showcases are only the tip of the iceberg. Kirkhammer has a many movesets that hasn't been discovered yet

>>123874528
fog door
i try to take it alone but my shitty arcane weapon is shit without the high tier gems
i'll ring now

>>123874508
Because humans are not fully developed great ones.

>>123874604
Well I watched a showcase where the guy was showing off the weapon (with the rune) and all he had was the explosion move and just a bunch of arm flailing moves, no cone-like aoe.

>>123872725
what drops radial arcanes in cb7jig9p?

For PvE why should I not use the saw spear? It hits fast, deals a good amount of damage, has a good moveset, and can stunlock. It feels objectively better than every other weapon. The balancing feels off in this game.

Have we considered like...we've seen an infant great one. Its the slug you turn into.

Orphan clearly isn't one so...what gives. Why is he more human than alien.

>>123873796
They're shitty weak beasts trapped eternally in a nightmare where the most badass hunters to ever exist are raging bloodthirsty berserkers killing them over and over and over again in some kind of Khorne ragnarok.

>>123874670
That could work.
His incubation period was just to turn him into a Kin, and the bladed placenta was to provide him the required juices and nourishment.

>>123874791
>>123872725
wait I'm dumb it's the bone ash npc hunter at the start ain't it?

>>123874631
>>123874510
I guess what i'm getting at with >>123874294 is that what if there were supposed to be two offsprings?
The one in the picture, and than the one we fight?
Would be super fucked up if the Orphan is using its dead sibling's placenta to fight you.

Though this >>123874670 and >>123874930 also make sense, except in the case of asking where the fuck did it get a human?
Might actually explain why it may have died and washed up though. It isn't cut out to hold humans.

>>123874839
Great ones aren't all the same race or species.
The orphan is probably the pre-child state. It's basically a fetus, yet to fully form into a proper infant great one. hence why it only becomes vulnerable to kin damage in the 2nd phase.
Slug is the second stage of their lives, the first one is human.

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>>123874064
>mfw there's no way to help them, not even by killing the hunters because they'll just come back

>>123874839
Orphan may be an infant but he's old as fuck at this point on top of being starved and withered thanks to burger experiments. He probably initially looked like slug as well, took another form when he grew up a bit.

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>>123874692
THE TREE
THAT TINY TWIG PIECE OF SHIT STOPPED MY ROLL
NATURE IS BULLSHIT

Someone for Orphan of Kos?
pass is bbg
and is Ng normal
pls come help an arcanefag to get the precious parasite

>>123874839
Well it's Mama has human features.
Who knows man.

>>123875108
Fuck off, Durja

>>123875042
>where the fuck did it get a human
>the corpse was teeming with parasites
>the great ones are the worlds inhabitants and humans are just a horrible parasite spewed from an alien corpse

cheeky bit of social commentary confirmed.

The only real unfair thing Ive experienced with Laurence ( only once tho since youll know it after the First few times it happens) is that one attack in his last phase where he raises his big arm. And crashes down where you Are the Moment he finishes it. It has ridiculous tracking to the point where he can hit you even if you circle around him during the windup. Its like a 1 frame turnaround.

>>123874868
Reminds me of one of the circles of Hell in The Inferno, where sinners of said circle/bolga would be slaughtered by demons, and than reanimated to have it done to them again.

Except in this case the demons are hunters.

>>123875278
Plus, like all of his fie moves, the shockwave is offset from the actual attack so that you can't iframe the slam without being caught by the lingering fire. That move is essentially a 'fuck off and get away from me' attack, but you'd have no way of knowing that until you've died to it a few times.

>>123874930
WHY THE FUCK IS IT BLADED

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>>123875164
Don't you have some shitty Old Blood to guzzle?

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>>123870030
who /amy/ here

>>123875108
Off the ledge with you.

Incase anyone who can help didnt see it
"Would 50 vit, 50 str, 16 end and 15 arc be a good build for beast claws?
And are hey better than they were before?" Anyone?

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tfw finally a radial bloodtinge gem but it's warm

>>123875309
Kind of ironic that the hunter's nightmare is the beast equivalent to hell but a paradise for the blood-addled hunters. Must be nice to be whisked away to hunter valhalla when you start to lose your mind instead of losing your humanity entirely and becoming that very which you sought to exterminate.

>>123875386
Evading both is actually possible. Timing is strict thou. Managed it during his Death Crawl

>>123875630
Do you need the hunter's bone, because it's not normally possible to chain iframes.

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Making a self-insert RP character.
Should I roll a victorian hairstyle or the hairstyle I have irl?
If I picked the latter it would clip through armors and hats.

>>123875426
Maybe it's a bone structure?
I admit, I've never seen the thing up close.

>>123869768
It is a good feeling that people know he's full of shit now. Depressing that he'll be involved with DaS3's marketing hype, though.

>>123875604
Its pretty cold here
:^)
:^)
:^)

>>123875145
someone? we're just 2 and he's fucking us real good

>>123875665
you dont habe to chain anything. Just Offset the dodge Timing a bit

>>123875460
is that the amy arm str weapon?

how early can you get it?

>>123875792
level/where you ringing

>>123875792
Booting up ps4. Be at hut lamp in 5

Is there any way to get the waning fire gem in Lower Cathedral before BSB? I'm looking at that Arcane build image and it says it's possible

>>123875739
He literally makes a living off of a small and core fanbase that continues to pay him money on patreon for his shitty weekly videos. Like any other rabid fanbase, no amount of truth or reputation destroying will shake their worship. He's set for the next couple of years at least making shitty fanfiction videos for souls games and being a glorified volunteer ad agent.

>Orphan finally emerges from Kos because it is terrified of you coming to slap its shit
>looks up at the sky crying for someone to help it
>even after killing the physical form of the Orphan, the spirit lingers by its mother
;_;7

I wonder who was the dad, though? Could it have been Oedon?

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Cosmo JoJo is literally S tier for invasions
>L2
>DASH R1

>>123876012
Oedon is a pimp.

>>123876012
I don't want that dirty man-whore Oedon touching pure Kos.
So no.

>>123875838
It's strength, yeah. A scaling at +10. Unfortunately it has a little bit of base arcane damage that hurts its gem potential a lot.

You get it in the cave partway through the first zone of the dlc, past the gatling hunter.

>>123875957
Souls games are being put on the backburner, so he's kind of fucked after DaS3.

>>123876012
dumb idiot

>>123876012
Good hunter the DNA test results come in and here they are. YOU ARE THE FATHER

Has the music box been shown to do anything new in the DLC?

>>123872470

The dlc enemies all have a delay so they hit panic dodgers. If you get hit, wait. Wait for the next swing and dodge through it, if you dodge early just trying to gtfo you will be caught.

>>123876139
?

>>123876207
Thanks for the tip bro

>>123875845
>>123875901
i'll ring in 2 mins i'll go for some vials
fuck the saw holy shit this thing is too slow and can't stagger for shit also that fucker attack too fucking quickly to even let me finish the attack animation

>>123876136
He'll just shill whatever new project from does next and claim it's a spiritual souls game lie bloodborne, no matter how unrelated it is. 5 bucks says the new canon will be 'miyazaki games' in order to canonize non-souls games as part of the category and also disown DaS2 from the pantheon.

Like it or not, from is a triple A studio now. Whatever franchise they choose after DaS3 (they likely already have the deal set up and contracts signed or else they wouldn't have announced the end of souls in an interview) will be a massive game with huge budget and major 3rd party backers and will get huge attention regardless of what it is. Gone are the days of obscure armored core games and ninja games nobody's ever heard of. Everything they make for the next while will be a blockbuster game, so shitters like vaati can continue to spin it as part of an ongoing history of souls games and continue to make cheesy low-effort fanfiction videos.

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How can I spawn a Bloodlicker in chalice dungeons?

>>123875845
>>123875901
Ringing at fog door

>>123876393
what
level

anybody feel like giving me a hand against Martyr Logarius in NG+? Ringing right outside his gate, password is bbgng, I'm at level 98

>>123876197
I tried it with the orphan, he just ignores it and fucking rapes you

>>123876383
They spawn occaisionly at dead bodies i think licking up the blood

>>123876429
Using a password, level doesn't matter.

>>123876429
level doesn't matter with a p/w

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>>123875613
>be average Yharnamite
>not very wealthy, but life is decent enough
>got a wife and kids to support
>suddenly get sick
>go to the church for healing because missing work would be disastrous
>feeling a lot better
>suddenly start growing fur and claws and shit
>start craving blood
>fuck
>get killed by some asshole with a rusty saw
>end up in the nightmare
>get killed by even bigger assholes with even bigger saws
>again
>and again
>and so many more times that I just sit in a corner and pray for the end

Being a Yharnamite is suffering.

>>123876429
89 but my weapon is shit with shit gems and i do no damage at all
fuck arcane builds

>>123876370
He isn't good enough and doesn't have a good enough reputation outside his fanbase for games like AC, or really any other titles From has made. He's going to fizzle out without Souls.

>>123876476
>>123876475
I'd rather not be scaled down you dinguses

>>123876448
Sounds about right.

>>123876476
>>123876475
Is this some new shitposting meme? Passes let you get matched at any level, yes, but you get scaled down if you're way higher than the host. Best to play with similar levels.

>>123876537
>caring about being scaled down

lol

>>123876537
are you coming? cus we're waiting for you
i'm lvl 84

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>>123870587
>>123871935
i feel your pain

>>123876624
yes
>>123876618
>being a retard
lol

>>123876604
>best to play with similar levels
looks like PvE fags are the new cancer now

>>123873723

I use the metamorphosis pair and guidance. With pizza cutter and guidance you can legit heal your entire damage back reliably, the rally is insane. My beast cutter gives almost no hp back, pizza cutter returns easily 200 or more.

>>123876502
Souls fans will just jump ship to whatever from does next. They've already said another armored core isn't happening because no publisher will touch the franchise, I assume it's the same for the rest of their old niche IPs. They'll be doing a new original project next and whether it's an RPG or an action game or some sci-fi something or whatever, you can be sure bb and souls fans will jump ship like lemmings and flock to it.

Plus, considering their track record, it will almost inevitably be a 3rd-person ARPG with a lockon system. They love recycling tech they've used in other games and they've been refining their 3rd person camera and their lock on system since the PS1 days. Their MO as a developer isn't going to change with the end of the souls series, probably just a new setting and some new gameplay gimmicks.

>>123876752
They're for sure doing two action RPGs. But I think you're really underestimating how much Vaati's popularity has waned since DaS1. The paleblood hunt theft stuff really bit into his reputation.

>>123876887
>The paleblood hunt theft stuff really bit into his reputation.
The what?
Sounds dumb.

>>123876736
The guidance rune is amazing. I could trade hits with the orphan using a kirkhammer because 2 hits would stagger it long enough for a 3rd, and 3 hits with guidance would heal up all of the rally HP when I tanked it with hyperarmor. I literally facetanked the boss to death in NG without chugging vials.

I can't wait to use it on a skill build and see how hard I can rally with the blades of mercy,

>>123876887
>The paleblood hunt theft stuff really bit into his reputation.
I've never even heard of this, what happened?

>>123876537

actually it's dingii

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So the experiment subject int he research hall turn into ayyylmaos right?
because they reminded me more to pic related

>>123876928
a guy posted his 90 page headcanon and vaati "stole" it

it had some good parts

>>123875120
>>123876680
Ty guys looks like 3 makes everything easier/better

>>123876432
I'll be there in a jiff if you haven't beaten him yet

>>123876964
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3crd5x/im_redgrave_author_of_the_paleblood_hunt_and_the/

Vaati stealing stuff has been going on for ages, though.

>>123877047

GG Orphan, fine work Cirilla and Killian

Uhm, why is there a fishing village on top of the clocktower?
We DaS2 now?