/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Paradox gotta make money somehow anon. Go buy some DLC today and support the company that builds the games you play.

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

where is aurora

>>123876193
>>>/vg/civ4xg/

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>>123876001
>workers of the world unite
>under non workers
why are Marxists such memes that can only work with 100% media propaganda flooded every day?
if it were true wouldn't it come naturally without the media propagandization of how you SHOULD be and how you SHOULD feel.

>>123875896
>Buy their stuff if you want them to fulfill what their fans always wanted

Exactly one person said that in one post out of 750+.

I guess one post is an entire thread of shills.

>WOW 18 PAGES? FUCKING HARD WORK GO TAKE A VACATION NOTCH

Nobody said that. In fact, virtually every post that mentioned patch note length was a criticism, except for that argument over HPM patch notes which is wholly unrelated to EU4 and was mostly about what should and shouldn't count as a patch note.

>It was only 15 minutes!

Is a completely valid response to "they wasted time".

If you want to keep shitposting because you think a /gsg/ full of shitposting is superior to a /gsg/ that discusses game mechanics, I cannot prevent you.

>>123875935
>but they do have access to the figures and you don't think the fact they're doing what they're doing with those figures is telling?

Your argument goes nowhere. It's circular logic.
>They are making X because they are selling more and they are selling more because they are making X

>>123876428
Of course it's fucking circular, you're asking me to prove something with data that I don't fucking have.

It's a loaded proposition. Ask them to prove to you that they're making more money, I'm cynical enough to believe that they wouldn't do anything that wasn't making them the most money they think they could make.

>>123876428
But... That's exactly correct.

People buy X, so make X. X sells, so keep making X. If it stops selling, make Y.

>>123876302
Because your definition of paradox shill is "anyone who says anything positive about a paradox game ever".

>>123876547
making money honorably is not just acceptable but is epitome.

>>123876610
im jew

>>123876586
>People buy X, so make X. X sells, so keep making X. If it stops selling, make Y.

That's assuming a lot of things which aren't necessarily true. It's like taking Hayek at face (or any) value.

>>123876610

How can I work for you? I want my daily $1 for shilling your shit here.

>>123876586
>Because your definition of paradox shill is "anyone who says anything positive about a paradox game ever".
It was implied that I was a shill last thread while I didn't even say anything positive about the game, so the definition is even looser than that.

There's more posts whining about Paradox shills than posts saying anything nice about Paradox at all.

Is Paradox the Sony Boogeyman of /gsg/?

Man, just realizes you fuckers have an archive with ck2 and all the expansions, why did I even bother buying it from steam in the first place?

what are some good tips for CK2 horse lords stuff?

I seem to get bigger with the help of luck till some gigantic clan outnumbers me

>>123876889
Hi wiz

>>123876895
Because you're stupid

>>123876547
I'm asking you to back up your claims before calling other people's claim shit because "i'm right because I'm right" and "paradox is always right".

>I'm cynical enough to believe that they wouldn't do anything that wasn't making them the most money
So you believe Microsoft did the shit that was Window 8 because it was making them more money and they kept it being shit and resisted adding a taskbar because it was making them more money?
You are retarded

>>123876586
You assume so much shit and simplify all the processes that's not even funny.
Literally a 4th grader's understand of economics.

Companies create demand and they experiment shit. Even more, assuming minor fantasy shit is creating more profit instead of focusing on what the costumers (history buffs) want is what is creating more profit goes against it

>>123877001
>So you believe Microsoft did the shit that was Window 8 because it was making them more money and they kept it being shit and resisted adding a taskbar because it was making them more money?
>You are retarded

>comparing paradox and microsoft's market situations

Okay yes you are just a retard.

Remember to buy HOI4 and Stellaris

>>123877071
Oh yes, I forgot that paradox is a "small indie company" :^)

>>123877001
>EU4 consumers
>history buffs

ok.jpg

I bet you think ARMA games are targeted towards military veterans

Have you pre-ordered HoI4 and Stellaris and their day-1 cosmetic DLC yet, goyi-GUYS?

Please support us. We're a small indie company that is struggling in these times of crises.

>>123877108
hoi4 looks like a facebook app, hoi3 looks more modern than it.

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Hey /gsg/ reminder to buy new Content pack alongside the Cossacks DLC!

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/euiv-the-cossacks-content-pack-renders.893404/

>>123877001

>EU4
>history buffs

top kek

>>123876991
Seriously. Where's a single post ITT that's shilling for paradox?

Because I count

>>123876119
>>123876180
>>123876302
>>123876610
>>123876702
>>123876748
>>123877108
>>123877268
>>123877217

That are either complaining about Paradox shills or pretending to be them ironically.

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DLC files have been extracted to the dlc folder

DLCActivator extracted and placed in the main CK2 folder

Every time I run the activator, this happens.

What am I doing wrong?

>>123876748
just PM me on the Paradox forums and I'll give you a list of pastas to post

don't forget to include your email, paypal and put "Shilling on /gsg/" as subject

>>123877462
Its supposed to crash a few times. Open the launcher afterwards

>>123877462

Nothing. If you already ran the activator, just open the launcher normally and see if all DLC are there. Tick them and enjoy.

>>123877385
t. wiz

>>123877565
>>123877581

Yeah it's crashed repeatedly though. And every time I open the normal launcher the DLC box is still greyed out.

Gonna try redownloading the DLCs from a different source.

>>123877462
As far as I remember, these activators actually crash the game and you just need to start it up without an activator the second time.
And as far as I remember it actually says so in the README, please be a good goy and read READMEs

>>123877462
>I didn't bother reading the readme, pls help
Jesus lord

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Hey guys, look at this funny picture! :)

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Alaska es Mexicana!

Daily reminder that HPM is the best modder because he puts lots of lines in his changelog.

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>>123877858

>>123877858
Why did you breed with a literal mongoloid?

>>123877943
SIMPLY EPIC
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>>123877858
>lel I posted it again

>>123877943
I haven't played as / tried to become the emperor in a long time.

Why can't it just pass all the reforms with its own vote?

Or is there an authority requirement?

HPM, why doesn't Spain have cores on Gibraltar?

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How do they do it?

>>123877462
Just keep launching, it will probably work eventually

HPM, why doesn't the UK have cores on the USA?

>>123877268
>these Helleno-Gothic-Slavic musketeers
my dick

Most of the decent shit is the patch anyway. DLC itself seems pretty fucking light.

Single biggest change in the patch, in your opinion?

I think the "advanced neighbor" relation modifier is going to make a huge difference in how the AI behaves.

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why is reddit so averse to any kind of historical guidlines and likes to just blob their shit up?

>>123878313
Are you fucking stupid or something

>>123878313
I also think this would be a good feature.

>>123878736
It requires a very specific form of autism to care about historical borders or whatever.

I don't use Reddit because the UI hurts me, but I've never understood why people DO care about that sort of thing.

Folks strokes etcetera

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What happens if these "White Army" rebels win?
Do I lose my sphere on the pope?

It's HPM btw

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HPM, why doesn't the USA have cores on the entire world?

Any good mods that focus on Japan or just give events and such to Japan, making it harder/more interesting to play it?

Also, any mods that have historical start but with alternative endings to ww2, cold war, world division and such?

Hoi 2/Aod/DH or hoi 3, anything

HPM, why does Belgium have cores?

>>123879167
Yep.

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>>123878904
>>123878313
>hurrr durrr im retarded
>What is the treaty of Paris(1783)
>"Acknowledging the United States (viz. the Colonies, with a list of all thirteen to be free, sovereign and independent states, and that the British Crown and all heirs and successors relinquish claims(!) to the Government, property, and territorial rights of the same, and every part thereof;"

Stop.

>>123879335
damn, I accidentaly 60k troops in Lombardy, with no military access

>>123879361
So?
Gibraltar was also ceded to the UK in perpetuity by the Treaty of Ultrecht

>>123879558

And the UK still has it, core and all.

What exactly is the issue here?

>>123879361
Calm down you autistic cunt. I find it pretty reasonable that something extreme could happen like a really really imperialist monarch takes the British throne and decides to retake the colonies as a way to show Britain's strength or something like that. And why not? It would be a perfect conquest.

>>123879558
The difference is that there were persistent attempts by Spain to reclaim Gibraltar, there were none from the UK to reclaim the US.

>>123879558
>So?
So what?

The UK still owns Gibraltar

I don't see how your post refutes mine in any way

>>123879740
And it was disputed by Spain, so Spain should have a core in Gibraltar.

>>123879781
Well, there weren't any during V2 period
What's stopping Spain from doing it in the V2 timeperiod? Nothing. What's stopping the UK from claiming the USA in the time period? Nothing.

>>123879768

But would the international community just step back and be like "Yes, conquering all of this land is perfectly fine, go ahead UK"?

What's stopping the UK from conquering France in the V2 timeline? France is rightful British clay.

Or the UK from conquering Russia? It could happen.

>>123879950
They were widely recognized as pretty much the strongest, most powerful and most influential nation in the world up until around 1880.
Sure the infamy penalty could be huge for it but it could be made into a sort of Napoleon like scenario with Britain vs the other great powers.

>>123879902
The only reason they stopped during the Vicky 2 period is because Spain became a shithole while Britian was the top power on Earth, any attempts to retake it would end in complete failure.

In a theoretical timeline where Britain gets btfo by France or Germany or something, which can certainly happen in Vicky 2, Spain sure as hell would've tried to reclaim Gibraltar.

>>123879902
>Comparing taking a tiny strip of land to taking the entire east US

Jesus christ

>What's stopping Spain from doing it in the V2 timeperiod? Nothing. What's stopping the UK from claiming the USA in the time period? Nothing.
Typical barbarian mentality

>What are treaties
If Britain had any intentions on retaking the US they wouldn't have signed a treaty

>hurrr theres nothing stopping us from retaking the US,lets just completely destroy our diplomatic image because who cares lol

>>123880207
In a theoretical timeline where the USA loses the mexican american war or get in a conflict with the UK, they sure as hell would try to reclaim the USA

>influence S-P
>France rabidly defends its sphere
>try to throw them off by influencing Belgium
>France ignores them

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>123880309

>get in a conflict with the UK
>War of 1812

>>123880268
Well Spain had intentions on retaking Gibraltar and signed a treaty anyways

>>123880309
read a fucking book

>>123880309
No, they wouldn't. Britain had no interest in taking the US and would have no benefit from it. Keeping hold on a territory that huge and populous would be all but impossible, and unlike India the US wasn't full of insanely expensive resources to justify the effort to keep hold of it.

Gibraltar, meanwhile, is a tiny strip of land that Spain has continuously claimed as theirs, even today. If Argentina has cores on the Falklands in HPM, why shouldn't Spain have cores on Gibraltar?

>>123880398
It ended in status quo but they were pretty much in the course to conquer the USA if they won

>>123880429
The Spanish government makes it clear that they want to retake it in a diplomatic peaceful way,not through war

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>>123880548
>Not benefiting from all that land and resources
I could argue Spain had no interest in going against the UK in the time frame and would have no benefit from owning a tiny strip of land

But they could, for both cases

>>123880772
How the fuck this even happened

>>123880548
>and unlike India the US wasn't full of insanely expensive resources to justify the effort to keep hold of it.

>implying Freedom is cheap

>>123880429
>a treat
You mean several treaties, relinquishing their ownership of the land, several times.

>>123880548
>If Argentina has cores on the Falklands in HPM
Actually, Argentina has cores on the falklands in vanilla. HPM added british cores to the falklands.

>>123880635
Then a core would fuck that, wouldn't it?

>>123880860
He kills his children and eats them.

I don't fucking know, ask the game.

>>123880580

They didn't commit much to the war and called it when their strategic goals (impressment) were no longer necessary. Had they actually wanted to conquer the US they could most likely have pulled it off., especially without continental opposition.

>>123880937
I see no problem with the Spanish having a core on Gibraltar

But the UK having cores on the US?

Thats fucking stupid

>>123881008
Nothing stops the player from wanting to pull it off

What is the best game/mod for modern setting gsg?

>>123881102

That's what the Historical in Historical Project Mod is about, though.

If you want to do it, eat the goddamn infamy.

>>123881110
EU4 extended timeline is cute because it is accurate to current events, eg Crimea or ISIS

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What do I do, /gsg/?

>>123881074
So you have double standards?

>>123880772
>122 years old
Jesus

>>123881338
No i have common sense

>>123880772
truly dievas rewards his faithful

>>123881338

From the mod we're arguing about, I don't think Spain gets a Gibraltar core unless the UK gets dismantled, when the GPs are looking for ways to carve it up.

>>123881327
Acknowledge

>>123881381
>Breaking this treaty and getting your cores back is common sense
>Breaking that treaty and getting your cores back isn't

How do I enjoy CK2 properly? I start up and never know what to do so it feels pointless.

>>123881445
They get a core via decision if they have a fascist government

>>123881530
Play as a viking

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>>123881423
I'm pretty sure the guy just wants to fucking die at this point, he's an old retarded cripple. I keep sending him into battles but the fucker survives every time. He's had 12 sons die on him, with the 13th looking like a shitbag.

>>123881798
nah

>>123881530
You don't

>>123881461
>I can't tell the difference and historical contexts behind treties
>I cant tell the difference between one tiny strip of land historically owned by another nation and a continent-sized former colony

Why don't the Jews just give up on Israel and relocate to like Australia?

It'd really be less hassle for everyone, and I'm sure Australia wouldn't miss a few thousand square miles lopped off the West coast somewhere.

>>123882028
>Breaking treaties that were weren't broken have historical contexts
>I will use double standards to shit on what you want but it totally justifies what I want

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>>123881858
>Qing Mexico

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>>123882357
They actually have cores there now, it's pretty hilarious.

>>123882256
Because Israel is their land, Australia isn't.

>>123882256
Why don't the Palestinians just give up on Palestine and relocate to like Australia?

It'd really be less hassle for everyone, and I'm sure Australia wouldn't miss a few thousand square miles lopped off the West coast somewhere.

>>123882309
The UK relinquished their claims on the US lands

The Spanish never relinquished their claims Gibraltar

Whats so hard to understand?

You don't see British politicians today saying "Boston is rightful British clay" do you?

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>>123882586
>israel is their land

>>123882586
But who cares?

Their land is shitty and full of angry people and fighting.

Australia wouldn't even notice the difference and they still get to live in a desert.

>>123882667
That wouldn't solve anything, though. The entire Middle East would still be angsty.

If moving everyone else was easier than moving Israel, then yeah, that would be better.

>>123882745
>gay weeb defending araps
no surprise to be found here

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>>123882667
>implying we want sandniggers over here

>>123882843

>>123882695
>The Spanish never relinquished their claims Gibraltar
Yes they did
>The Catholic King does hereby, for himself, his heirs and successors, yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging; and he gives up the said propriety to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment whatsoever.

>You don't see British politicians today saying "Boston is rightful British clay" do you?
You didn't see the Spanish king reclaiming Gibraltar in 1836 either

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Sorry Adolf, but German pussy is just too good not to take. I'm even nice enough to share it with my friends Ivan, Phillipe, and Luigi!

What has this game done to me

>>123882842
How would moving all the Jews to Australia solve anything. All the Jews would still be pissed then.

Stupid discussion.

>>123882309
>can't address reasonable points
>gonna greentext instead

>>123882256
desu jews should just remain in Poland-Ukraine, they lived there for centuries and maybe it wouldn't be such a shithole now

>- Buffed mighty Gotland's ideas.
Oh boy, more epic Ulm memes

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>>123882843
>implying it's not better for everyone to Denounce their claim on israel so the kikes and sandniggers keep killing each other

>>123882745
>jews lived in a place for more than a thousand years
>not theirs
Besides, the Jews are making a good use of that land unlike their Semitic cousin on the region.

>>123883043
Yes, I know that's what you are doing captain obvious

>>123883014
That's my favourite Yugoslavia

Why don't the Jews just give up on Israel and relocate to like Madagascar?

It'd really be less hassle for everyone, and I'm sure Madagascar wouldn't miss a few thousand square miles lopped off the West coast somewhere.

>>123883014
>Ivan, Phillipe, and Luigi
I chuckled

What's the war about?

And post empire

>>123883047
No, fuck off. We FINALLY got rid of them during WW2.

>everyone still thinks only the germans killed east yurop jews and not the actual east yuropeans themselves

>>123882990
Bah,since they still have claims on the land today I assumed they never did relinquish it

But in fact they actually "reclaimed" it in the 1950's

Still is no reason for the UK to have claims on the US in Vickys timeline

>>123883030
What would the Jews be pissed about? They get to stop being bombed and missiled all the time.

The Palestinians get to do whatever, who cares, the Middle East can deal with itself and the West can go back to ignoring it.

>>123883231
How is Madagascar better than Australia?

Australia is "Empty Desert: The Country". Madagascar is a smaller island full of rare nature and forests that would have to be removed.

Really the only other contenders are Russia and Canada, but I assume the Israelis would prefer a desert climate and sea access, and that a desert would be cheaper to terraform.

>>123883089
>killed and displace the native canaanites
>live there a thousand years
>get killed and kicked out by mehmet who proceed to live there for two thousand years
>still somehow rightful jew clay
Wew lad

>>123883434
Treaties mean absolute shit most of the time, no ones cares about them
See: China
They relinquished their claims on Hong Kong and Macao then they bitched to get it back
They also relinquished their claims in Outer Manchuria but they don't bitch to get it back (yet)

>1950
What, they never set foot in it after they lost, that's why it's called "The Rock"

>>123883572
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

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Is there a Metal Gear Solid mod for any of the gsg games? I want to play as Outer Heaven / MSF.

>>123881381
It was a shitty DLC to be honest.

>>123883660
It was more of a government thing to get support from the people according to wikipedia

>>123883821
That was under Russian control, and also not the full population and technology of modern Israel.

The only reason I can think of that makes this a bad idea is people would stop worrying about Israel so they'd stop getting so much international aid.

>>123884080
How is that a bad thing?

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>>123884080
>people would stop worrying about Israel so they'd stop getting so much international aid.
>this is a bad thing

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There are so many modifiers and ifs going on, can someone tl;dr why I'm not getting any assimilation?

>>123884080
Why would the Jews just give up on Israel. Its not like they're having trouble holding the land. Its not like there was a massive international Zionist movement for years specifically focused on reclaiming Palestine for the Jews. Its not like having Jerusalem and the holy land has symbolic importance to them or anything.

Has anyone seen the strait tweak in the new EU4 patch coming out tomorrow? Apparently blocking straits no longer works if both sides are controlled by the same country.

>>123884172
>>123884262
It's not a bad thing, except if you're Israel.

Which was my point.

>>123884267
mod name?

>>123884267
>only 1.9% Sunni Arab
>only 1.8% Turkish
Open the borders you racist.

>>123884267
holy shit how retarded are you, do you see where there's an active "-100%" modifier? That's probably it.

>>123884357
NWO

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Why does NwO mod crash whenever you alt-tab or run it in windowed mode.

>>123884549
because the traditionalist party in argentina is the muslim brotherhood

the state religion is muslim

># Units & Forts
>- It is no longer possible to block a strait for an army whose war allies control both sides of that strait.
It may be the dumbest change they've made since shattered retreat for CK2

>>123884267
Have you enacted gay polygamy yet?

>>123884295
>Its not like they're having trouble holding the land.

They would be if the West wasn't babysitting them. And they can't be enjoying the constant terrorism. And we're definitely not enjoying all the drama that gets stirred up by them being there.

>Its not like there was a massive international Zionist movement for years specifically focused on reclaiming Palestine for the Jews.

Why should we have to pay for their poor choices? If all the blacks moved to wartorn Congo to reclaim their ancestral homeland, should we protect them from African warlords and terrorists?

>Its not like having Jerusalem and the holy land has symbolic importance to them or anything.

It's 2015, they need to trade in their little hats for fedoras like everyone else. Symbolicism isn't worth all the hassle.

>>123884313
Yes. Rip easy Byzantium.

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>>123883647
Let's judge the situation from a pratical point of view then.

There are three gropus of people that can be given the region due to a historical claim:

A) Canaanites
b) Jews
c) Palestinians

We obviously can't give the Canaanites because they are extinct.

Between giving the land to the Jews or the Palestinians:

>Jews: produce lots of technology and knowledge, create useful military gear like drones, are reliable as long as you let them colonize the West Bank and help defend them, are a smart and productive people (pic related), make good use of their land even though most of it is desertic (they have even turned some areas into huge agricultural oasis), and so on
>Palestinians: never invented anything, are inbred, attack even their Arab brothers (Egypt, Syria, Jordan, etc), unreliable and break everything everywhere they go (see Jewish agricultural infrastructure in Gaza and what they did to it)

Therefore the Jews should obviously have that land. If you disagree you are a memeing cunt.

There should be a strait across the English channel.

It doesn't make sense that AI France can never ever get across the channel, but it would still allow England's navy to lock down the crossing.

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>>123884713

>>123884953
I wish you memeing fucks would realise that "it's current year" is exactly the same as le epic shiggy meme, you hypocritical niggers.

>>123884267
>(*)-100%: The state religion is NOT Secularism
>(*)-100%: The state religion is NOT Secularism
Guess the modder wanted to be double sure the state religion was NOT secularism

>>123885094
did you just call him a nigger

>>123884872
No, they just need to give every ship a small transport ability. Like .1 per ship.

So a large merchant navy can still ferry a nonzero amount of troops.

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>>123883241
Crisis war, dumbass Krauts tried to break up my bros the Yugoslavs, and of course all of Europe sided with me as no one likes Nazis who talk a lot of shit about racial purity while the Russian Bear is constantly hilt deep in the German Bitch. I won two great wars against them and they still haven't learned their lesson.

My empire is modest, I got Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam and Cambodia under my control as well as Hong Kong. I'm considering making GrossNetherlands, has it been done before lads?

>>123885153
They could just make units turn into boats when they touch the water.

>>123884856
>Jews: produce lots of technology and knowledge, create useful military gear like drones, are reliable as long as you let them colonize the West Bank and help defend them, are a smart and productive people (pic related), make good use of their land even though most of it is desertic (they have even turned some areas into huge agricultural oasis), and so on
>Palestinians: never invented anything, are inbred, attack even their Arab brothers (Egypt, Syria, Jordan, etc), unreliable and break everything everywhere they go (see Jewish agricultural infrastructure in Gaza and what they did to it)

Literally none of that matters. The Palestinians have lived there for much longer and more recently than Jews, that's all that's relevant in deciding who's land it is.

strait from norway to iceland when

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HPM PATCH TODAY????

>>123885307
No

>>123883269
J-jannies

>>123885307
t.urk

>>123885094
>2015
>calling people niggers
I seriously hope you don't do this.

>>123885152
No.

>>123885094
why are you so rude?

>>123885429

Shut the fuck up you dumb nigger.

>>123885460
Thanks, man.

>>123885287
>>123884856

Land should be allocated in the way that produces the best outcome, not in the way that is in the most agreement with history or tradition.

The Jews being in the middle east causes problems for everyone. Therefore, it makes no sense to put them there, regardless of what "right" to the land they may have, and regardless of whether those problems are the Jews fault are not.

>>123885285

oh wait

unrelated: just now got warned from a post from 3 threads ago

>>123885491
Because your mother refused to abort my baby

>>123885556
Stop pretending to be me, kid.

>>123884549
In V2, the first time you build a cache and alt tab the game will crash, always.

After that it shouldn't

>>123885641
Who are you?

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>123884872

Rob added one in robmod.

It does make things more fun.

I'd say a good 70% of the time UK manages to hold off enemies, usually France, from invading. They absolutely suck at invading the mainland, though (usually send a few stacks, occupy the coast and gets BTFO by France).

The other 30% they get fully occupied, get constant rebels enforcing, lose Ireland, Canada and India and basically become a meme for the rest of the game.

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What do you think /gsg/, should I acquire state from Poland and use that Free People + Annex exploit next war (which probably is going to be great) or should I just conquer everything the old fashioned way?

And pls rate my GroßGermaniums and my even großer plans.

>>123885969
>he's going to blob as germany
>doesn't even take the heavily populated and industrialized provinces in the lowlands
wew/10

>>123885919
>The other 30% they get fully occupied, get constant rebels enforcing, lose Ireland, Canada and India and basically become a meme for the rest of the game.

So just like real life?

>>123885969
>playing Germany
You should uninstall

>>123886083

>expanding west of the Rhine

Haram, desu.

>>123885919
No, he didn't. Wiz added the dover strait, it's in vanilla

He gets shat on here to this day because of that since it's a retarded idea

>>123886083
Nah, then the borders would be absolutely awful. I prefer to bring civilization and industrialization to the slavs.
>>123886151
>he doesn't like a cheeky groBgermanium in Vicky 2
wew lad

>>123886196
From how that anon describes the way it plays out it sounds like a historically accurate change

>>123886182
Most of the Netherlands is East of the Rhine you degenerate.

>>123885919
>Rob trying to take credit for Wiz's "work"
wew

>>123885746
It doesn't matter who I am, what matters is my plan.

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Aww poor Adolf has been reduced to a dog face fucking his younger brother with his tiny little pecker, while Me, Phillipe and Vlad hit it from the front and back. Truly pathetic.

>>123885969
How'd you get your birthrate to 50k senpai? I got all medical tech and healthcare reforms.

>>123886083
It's about aesthetics ;^)

>>123886491
Was shitposting a part of your plan?

>>123886575
wow rude

fucking NIGGER

What do you people do if you don't blob?

What else is there? Do you... roleplay?

I don't understand.

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>>123886196

Oh? Well, my bad then. Thought it was a Rob thing.

>>123886138

Pretty much. Here, my last game. I did somewhat have a hand in it because I crippled their navy in the 1870s, but it happens occasionally with the AI, since they tend to split their navy instead of focusing on the french threat.

>>123886531
What map mod is that? The colours are nice.

>>123886575
No

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Should I play Men of War or Hearts of Iron 3?

>>123886807
rds mapping project senpai, its in the OP and hpm compatible

>>123886531
>How'd you get your birthrate to 50k senpai?
I have no idea to be honest lad. When I was playing as France I had to hit 50m pops to get 50k pop growth.
Now I've got all the inventions and all but one healthcare reform, I'm even losing 2500 pops a month to immigration and I still have such a massive population growth.
>>123886674
I'm not even the same guy, m8.

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>>123886770

And this is India in its current state. I hope to see it fully unified before this meme ends

>>123886945
WHO AM I

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>>123886920
>implying German tanks were good at close ranges
>implying German tanks had solid rear armour

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>>123886920
this is /gsg/
gtfo with your memes of war

>- You can now sign a peace that would result in going down to -999 DIP, this to prevent situations where you're unable to make a suitable peace (which has higher priority than other DIP expenses).

RIP my diplomacy mana

>>123887170
On the contrary

Now you won't get fucked by teching right before a war

>>123886378
It isn't. It ends up with stacks playing a little cold war in one province of the strait until someone is dumb enough to cross, lose the battle and end up occupied
If the player is one or the other then it's is as fuck to bait someone to cross the strait, blocking it and wiping large stacks repeatedly

Most of the time that one the UK gets fucked in this, which pretty much ruins V2

There's nothing historical about british or french soldiers marching through the strait and the UK fully occupied by Russia that got access through france

>>123886945
>>123887067
im jew

>>123887137
recommend me a country

>>123885919
Fuck off Rob

>>123885287
>Literally none of that matters.
Yes it does and it does even more with the discovery of oil beneath the Golan Heights. And Arabs shouldn't be trusted with oil.

>The Palestinians have lived there for much longer
Who are the Palestinians? THere is no such a thing as Palestinian. Only Ar*abs and Ar*bs are a unreliable, savage and barbaric people.

Besides, the Jews lived there for some 3000 years now, while the Ar*bs only for 1200-1300. The Jews never actually completely leaved the land.

>>123885606
>The Jews being in the middle east causes problems for everyone
For who besides Syria and Iran? That "it's the fault of the jews!!!!" ar*ab meme thing is just a plain scapegoat propaganda used by leaders of the ar*b worldto throw the attention of the population away from the shit they are making in their own countries.

>Therefore, it makes no sense to put them there
Well, it does. They are persecuted and discriminated in every country they go. Why not let them have their own in their ancient land and let them live in peace?

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>>123887301

>>123887375
i don't play memes

>>123887247
I like it. I hated basically have 100% warscore but not being able to end the war with what I wanted because "not enough mana"

>>123887509
Offtopic but:

Is there any way to mod a "not enough mana" VO from an RTS or RPG into EU4?

It would be very memeful.

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What is the optimal siege dedicated army composition?

Should I just stack engineers unto a province?

>>123887769

for you

>>123887361
>For who besides Syria and Iran?
For literally everyone, especially the West.

>That "it's the fault of the jews!!!!" ar*ab meme thing is just a plain scapegoat propaganda used by leaders of the ar*b worldto throw the attention of the population away from the shit they are making in their own countries.

Did you read my post? It doesn't matter who is causing the problems. It doesn't matter whose fault it is. It's 100% irrelevant. The only thing that matters is fixing the problems, focusing on anything else is the mark of the uneducated who can't suppress their basic vindictive instincts.

>They are persecuted and discriminated in every country they go. Why not let them have their own in their ancient land and let them live in peace?

Because they CAN'T live in peace in their ancient land, obviously. It's not as if we have the power to magically make it so they can.

But they CAN have their own land where they can live in peace, which would fix every problem. They just have to accept that it will be in the middle of nowhere, Australia. But in return, they get peace, security, and self-determination, without needing to fear their neighbors or appease the West for protection.

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Rate my believable world
Jerusalem is german btw

>>123888240
nice just intagrate poland and croatia
>>123876028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMzN6po7nfY
anyone got song souce

>>123888240
Everything seems to be in order so far
9/10 would live in

>>123888468
I've been dicking around as Aquitaine. The germans and czechs have done that on their own so far. I might switch over to grab croatia though. That german italy makes me hot

Do the EU4 HRE mechanics even approach historically accurate?

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>>123888808

>EU4
>historically accurate
>when the lead dev's motto is "Realism is not a meaningful argument"

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a-avan....ritiro italia ;_;

>>123888240
I like the provence-tuscany, solid world so far

WHERE IS THE FUCKING HOI4 LEAK?!

>>123889153
In the toilet, because it's shit

>>123889006
>losing against literal KuKs
typical Italy I guess

>>123889006
NO LAD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY ITALIA

>>123889006

>iron muzzle
>in 1863

Shitaly doing it again

>>123888240
>my believable world
>Jerusalem is german

anon...

>>123889006
>35/75
wew

>>123889006
lad sit in the tirol mountains..

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daily reminder that grosbritaniums is best

>>123889534
I am externally vomitting

>>123889453
they DoW'd 2 days after reunification


>>123889476
but it's cold up there in the mountains and it's harder to boil the pasta

>>123889662
Rightful british clay desu.

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>Start Sealion
>Send a a small force to take out a small british force
>They pull 5 billion divisions from london
>I send more men that I stationed in france to move in after I took the port
>Naval Invasion lasts weeks as I keep cycling units
>Eventually start taking the units I was using to occupy France
>USA joins the war
>A few more days of this naval invasion pass
>USA lands a fucking army in the UK
>My units are losing faster than I can rotate them from the naval invasion
>this shit
fuck off meme mods
>

>>123886331
>the borders would be awful
he only needs frisia

>>123885969
how the fuck do you people keep infamy that low
in my groB run I had 100+ infamy and similar expansion(only instead of austria, I ate frisia and western netherlands, half of britain, a chunk of canada, bohemia/moravia, sudetenland, a chunk of poland)

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>>123889006
>Not allying with France or Germany
>Not getting Venice alongside Lombardy in your first war

>>123890081
>BlackICE
You reap what you sow, lad

>>123889534
>Taking that much of the USA
Did you get most of it whilst it was still colonies? Because I've always wanted to try it myself.

>>123890261
>>123890081
Why did they think that giving the british +100% defence, or whatever that bullshit number was, in Britain was a good idea?

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>>123890418
British defiance.

>>123889534
not grobe Konföderierten Staaten von Amerika

>>123890163
>allying anyone

Yeah, how does that work in AHD/HOD/HPM?
Cause I had a negative modifier with all the GPs at the start and by the time I increased relations, it's -1000 across the board...
Do I just kinda hope that somebody loses an ally?

>>123886920
Men of War if you think you're hardcore enough.

Hearts of Iron 3 if you love to suck cock.

>San Diego produces precious metals
>oil is discovered and production switches over to that
>get an event a year later that says precious metal has been discovered in San Diego
>endless loop
make it stop

>>123891101
I think HPM is fixing that in his next patch

>>123890778

You were the one playing Two Sicilies, yes?
You're pretty much fucked.
France is always allied to Russia, and since you're not their little pet Sardinia-Piedmont, they'll hate you from the start.
Don't even need to get started on Austria.
Thing is, when you unify as Two Sicilies, both France and Austria instantly get a Humiliate CB on you. And they WILL fuck your shit up, since you just unified and have yet to build your armies.
I would just accept their demands immediately. That puts a 5 year truce between you. Blanda upp, fully research army techs and try scoring an alliance with Germany.

>>123890975
>Men of War
>All I want out of a game is low quality 3d graphics, shitty gameplay and people shouting memes

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>>123890081
>decide to try out blackice with the soviets
>after losing a finger trying to reorganise the war starts in 1941
>15% officer ratio because of purges
>2+ million men
>germans can barely advance

I don't know why I bother playing this mod, something is always fucked.

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>>123890372
>Did you get most of it whilst it was still colonies?
Yep. it sucks when you get to the eastern states and single states are 100 warscore.

My biggest problem is that brits refuse to migrate to america. Maybe I should go back to that save and mass release nations to flood america with assimilated anglos.

Are there any good modern mods for V2 besides >White Portuguese

>>123891278
oh well, I guess it's the martyr's path...

>>123890418
Most AI's get those modifiers if you start beating them.

Have you seen the screenshot where the Soviet AI has 3500 IC?

is there a mod that has the army compositions/units from black ice but without all the other memes?

>>123879558
>Ultrecht

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>SYRIZA
>1994

>>123879361
read some other treaties dweeb, grandiose language doesn't actually mean the claims are given up in all cases.

>>123892237
BlackICE's memes all stem from the way army composition works in the mod

>>123892237
DWI, maybe.

Its really only good for playing Germany though

>>123892237
Not really no. Only mod i've seen that has more depth than blackice is deutsche wehrmacht immersion, composition for divisions are can border on insanity if you don't know anything german.

>>123892651
they stem from the modders autistic reactions to how people used the army compositions

>>123892560
I'm more interested in Congo Uganda war of "honour"" desu lad.

> - Exclaves will now use regional naming (such as 'Swedish West Africa' instead of just 'Sweden')

EU4 CONFIRMED FIXED LADS

>>123894038

>mana still there

Nope, still shit.

>>123894038
>Women in History Event 73, Barbara of Cilli, will now trigger for Bohemia rather than the Holy Roman Empire tag and won't trigger after the death of Barbara herself. Text and effect now also reflect the role she had after the death of her husband in 1437 as this is more relevant to the game period.
It truly is

>>123894038
If naming was the only problem in EU4 it wouldn't be a shit game

>>123886928
Thanks, mate!

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Rate my middle east. Kingdom of Cyprus is outlined along with related Viceroyalty in Tripoli. The Empire is pretty loose at the moment and my rulers are left out of the elective succession I worked for because of the de jure status of the Cypriot Kingdom.

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>>123894205
>women in history

>>123894038
I hope no one is praising them for adding back a feature that was in the previous game.

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>>123894205
nevr frgt

>>123894205
>Women in History
Why would you ever need to clarify that there were "women in history" and make a freaking DLC for it ?

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My ck2 game kept crashing around 1300 so I went ahead and converted it
Results aren't too horrible accept for the mongol mess

Who should I play

>>123894548
Only a matter of time until we get an actual shogunate mechanic dlc THAT WAS ALREADY THERE IN THE LAST GAME

>>123894786
honestly, if you're going to make a DLC like Guns, Drums and Steel, then why not Women in History

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>>123894804
Karantania and create Samo's union.

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>>123894205
>Woman in History

>>123891347
>men of war
>shitty gameplay

It's really good, actually.

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Germany what the fuck are you doing

>>123889749
High in the mountains there is a smaller pressure so the boiling point of water decreases.

>>123896539
But that's bad. For good pasta you want the water as hot as possible. Once it starts boiling it becomes much harder to raise the temperature.

>>123896653
>/gsg/ - gastronomical strategy general

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memepatch coming through

>>123894786
It's free so why do you care?

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>>123897247
2/3

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>>123897329
>b-but muh misogyny

>>123897247
>exclaves will now use regional names
RUSSIAN RUSSIA AND SPANISH CASTILLE II: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

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>>123897438
wew

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>>123897576
>electric
>not mana

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>>123890154
Eh, keeping infamy low as Big Germaniums is easy. The only states I took through conquest were Lithuania and Mazovia and that was right at the start when Russia wasn't allied to France yet.
NGF has cores on A-L, so I didn't have to spend any badboy on it. I helped Hungary win in their rebellion by just sphering and intervening. Italy released Poland from Austria.
The only CB I had to use on the KuKs was Release Puppet to free Bukovina, bring their score down and ensure Hungary won their reconquest war. Then I got an annexation through sphere event that only got me 10 infamy.

All in all, I pretty much got everything through events and railroading and it also helps that Germanium has many decisions and events that lower your infamy.

Oh, and I should probably mention I threw some cheeky Punitive Expeditions in there. The results combined with transportation law are quite hilarious.

Why does the AI keep signing a white peace on day 1 of a crisis war?

So /gsg/ i got bored of all the normal starts so now im playing as the UK west indies as if some awefull cousin was sent to rule them all. What should my coals be?

>>123898135
Learning English.

>>123898078

Because Parakeks

>>123897576
that's not how the system is going to work though.

>>123898078
They realized killing fellow Europeans were pointless and only bring the end of their empires

>>123898248
>>123898135

My sides

>>123898478
I have more respect for ISIS than for decadent degenerates desu.

>>123898478
Eh lost the will to play now.
Until tomorrow /gsg/

>>123896432
tuff to make a good AI
:)
the occupation system is dumb as fuck too

Is the NWO mod for Vicky2 good?

>>123899283

No

>>123899283
only if you like encouraging experiences

>>123899283
It got far more playable recently but it still has a lot of annoying glitches. You can trigger all the voting reforms as a presidential dictatorship and it still will consider you a dictatorship for example.

>>123899510
Or roll back voting in a democracy/that-stupid name-they-use-for-constitutional-monarchy and still have elections

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FIGHT THEM TO THE LAST MAN AHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>123899846
and you haven't mobilised?

why does my nwo crash every time? I have reinstalled and deleted documents cache every time.

>germans in Temsevar
>Sorbs in Cottbus
but
>Great Britain is all just British culture

what is this HPM meme?

>>123899961
literally 1 second into the war senpai

>exclaves will now use regional naming
Time for Spanish Castille

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>>123897791
Damn, I wish I did that with my most recent Italy game. At least I managed to get North Borneo accepted as a state without even encouraging immigration.

>>123900046
That's all vanilla or are right though

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I accidentally became King of Poland, except all the de jure provinces of Poland are part of Lithuania, which I am also king of. Is there any easy way for me to take duchies and counties from Lithuania and give them to Poland?

>>123897791
>ebin grossgermaniums
>prestige 1
>industry 2
>military 2

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>>123899231
Yeah, just throw your entire army in russia and don't bother squashing that little stack that will no doubt siege the entirety of south germany

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>>123899846
>pussied out and surrendered to the nfg scum
>they immediately declared war on France for alsace-lorraine
>queue the three year war which ends in a white peace, both france and germany annihilated with 100% WE
perfidious austria wins again

>>123900345
It's so weird seeing them walk around ignoring each other, trading seiges
And of course, wasting troops in stupid fights

How do I understand Crusader Kings 2? Everything is so scattered around some weird menus and little buttons so it doesn't make any sense.

>>123901025
Trial and error. Lose a few games until you get the feel for it.

Or be a faggot and read a guide.

how do I make nwo work, pls guys help a fellow comrade.

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>>123901163
I don't even know how to read unless it's big fonts and lot of pictures.

I hate to start from Ireland.

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German front...crumbling...

Fuck HPP makes the game harder than in vanilla.

>>123901202
Change the "patch=" line in the .MOD file to where your .MOD actually is.

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Tfw you know you have done fucked and your glorious Reich shall soon fall apart to degenerates.