Tree of Savior General /tosg/

>>123852597
how is Fencer anyway? I always see them in towns but I never party with them, the one time I did it was underwhelming but she was a fricken Highlander C3.

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>EQ
>good

>>123852597
The last new classes we'd be getting would just be the Rank 7 classes right?

>>123853729
its newest tosg meme *\o/*

>>123853791
korean OBT is going to rank 7 I believe, so if we get an OBT we'd probably go to 7 too.

I want to try Bokor into Sadhu into Plague Doctor. Druid is kind of lame, Carnivory is nowhere near as strong as people said it would be and everything else is ehhh or broken.

>>123853869
>everything else is ehhh or broken.
That seems to describe a lot of circle 6 classes.

Reminder to NOT choose Druid if you're going for a Sadhu build and just wait for R7 classes.

Why you might ask? It doesn't do anything particularly well.

Cleric C2's Fade and Safety Zone > Sterea Trofh
22 seconds of fade, 22 hits of Safety Zone

Krivis C2 Zaibas > Carnivory
Splash attribute, can hit flying mobs, 30 hits (same as Carnivory)

The only thing Carnivory/Sterea have going for them are the bigger AOE and the fact that you can target where to put it.

BEST SADHU BUILD IS CLERIC C2 KRIVIS C2 SADHU C2

>>123808464
Why would you not put points into at least Con for melee? Doesn't everything hurt?

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Anyone want to do 190 DG?
Please

>>123852618
>>123852687
https://madokami.com/1nt16i.webm

>>123854009
>Sterea Trofh
I actually just tested this, it doesnt work. Sterea Trofh doesnt "block" damage, it negates the damage you take. So you're still hit and it breaks.

Or maybe my grass was too short of a duration, I'm too lazy to retest it.

Druid sucks though. Going fast as a Panto is kind of okay though.

>>123854098
It's probably the bug that's been happening to all magic casting skills.

>>123853709
I like it, having come from Highlander C3 too. If I could redo my build I'd take out Sword C2 and put in something else.

>>123853791
I have no idea, so I was just considering possibilities.

i'm getting 4am'd hard right now

>>123854168
ohright, if they don't fix the possession thing, I'm just not playing Sadhu for the rest of the beta anymore

>>123853869
>YFW rank 7 is a rank you can only reach after you've spent roughly 17 levels worth of normal exp (not class exp) at the exp cap, and the entirity of it is levelled in the same manner
Can you imagine the suffering?

I do not trust IMC to make this a good game.

>>123854520
This game is meme itself.

>>123854520
Neither does IMC

>>123853729
>complex
>MLG mechanics
>top tier dps
>future proof
>has the best end-game spell:earthquake

Wiz3 a best

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Reminder that Quarrel is Love

>>123853929
And 5

>>123854520
It will be good on release I swear

>>123854736

>cast can't be interruped
>-50% cast time skill
>magic missile hits like a freight train
>reflect shield makes you invincible
>energy bolt and EQ lvl 15 are the end-game skills

why would you not go wiz3?

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>>123854745
>quarrel C3
so what do you even do besides look cute?

>>123855030
pneuma

>>123855123
does Pravis block homing rape magic?

>>123854881
>image of fagfrog sayin well meme`d my friend

>>123854881
>magic missile misses at point blank range, near range, any range, ignores target ctrl lock,, and in general is terrible at everything.

You're some kind of ultra masochist if you go wiz3 willingly and don't regret it.

>>123855267
Irrelevant desu, you only go wizard 3 for quick cast so the good spells you get at rank 7+ scale well.
I don't know why people find this difficult to understand.

So once the game really bad where do we go? There's no good MMOs anymore

>>123855149
Hahahahah no.

You know what blocks that?

Safety Zone

>>123855370
no shit. you think you take wiz 3 for energy bolt and earthquake? lmao

>>123855370
Does quick cast even have any effect on skills that don't have a cast bar?

>>123855030

I trow stones at bullies

>>123855614
Is your aim as good as your spelling?

>be linker
>party with a swordsman that took a class in pelt
>be literally useless

Does anyone have that exp chart?

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>>123855881

>>123855915
>curve resets at 16
for what purpose

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So the beta tester armband is for rank6 class level 15's only right?

>>123855965
Not even noticeable anyways.

>>123855808

i was trying to look cute m8

I am a quarrel ffs

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>>123854745
>stone shot can be used with a pistol

>>123855981
There is no armband and if there was it would be given to any rank 6.

>>123855981
Rank 6 kbct1 only, yes.

>>123855915
i cri evrytiem

Seriously, why do this if it doesn't even come close to synching up with when you reach new class ranks?

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>>123855981
yepp

>>123855981
just for the ones with 3 r4 or more

>>123855915
Well that's depressing. I thought I was approaching the end of a curve at 147.

Because the first few class levels for your first job class will come fast (as it should), and for some retarded reason, they decided character level should have a similar pattern.

And keep doing that forever.

There are literally no classes in this game that needs over base SPR.

>>123856352
alch pots are OP as fuck and will be nerfed.

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>do 130 dungeon boss rush, invite randoms
>partymates dying on mineloader and harpy
>they're lvl 180-200

>>123856352
if you're going full support Priest then you want max SPR for super hard stone skin

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>corrupt velfiggy

>>123856503
I can understand Mineloader but Harpy...

>>123856352
what about archers

most of the shield mobs keep bloking my attacks.

on a side note Vubbe Gloves is it even worth the farm ?

>>123856630
No con, if they stand d irectly infront of him the dust attacck will do like 8k damage. If they stand behind him or to the side, the whirlwind might hit 3 times and deal 5k.

>>123856653
>Is sitting on 6 bloods

It's not that hard, Anon.

>>123856653
Block Penetration stat doesn't work. They forgot to turn it down when they removed the archer's pierce in their attacks

which gloves are the memelemental ones?

To the anon asking for shields earlier, just get a Ludas. Beetleback isn't really that much worth it

>>123856703
It's pure rng, I've gotten 2, but at the same time i've spent like 3 hours farming it solid once time but didn't get shit.

And wow, people ignore shout chat for memeset parts, but will pay even higher prices on the market for market tax adjustment?

>>123856757
Whichever ones you want out of mage gloves/earth gloves/legwyn family gloves , I use legwyn cloth for sp regen (sorc).

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>>123856782
tfw I had to kill over 700 of those fuckers to build one

You're not getting my shekels, market!

>>123856871
Its just 250k on the market, you'd just farm than in half an hour. What the fuck were you thinking anon

How much do the materials for awakening cost anyway?

>>123856937
3k

>>123856937
Are you interested in how much people are jewing you for? 3k each, but amount required varies basead on rarity and such. memeset is 3, superior mail is 3, legwyn gloves are 10. Didn't check anything else.

>>123856906
I was thinking that the next place I'm expected to go is fucking impossible for a Bokor due to this ongoing bug and I'd do anything to avoid it.

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Flesh hoop says it deals AOE damage for 15 seconds.
What it actually does is proc 15 times then deactivate.
Necromancer is so, so bad. Don't fall for this meme

>>123857006
>>123856980
How are people getting away with 1000% markups?
Where are the people undercutting them?

>>123857107
I heard the maximum amount of awakenings you can do is 3 per day.

which would be better for solo, Wiz>Pyro>Pyro>Ele>Ele>Ele or Wiz>Pyro>Pyro>Ele>Sorc>Sorc

>>123857057
quality gook programming

>>123857258
Don't take one circle in Ele. Meteor and Frost Cloud are literally the only reason to take Ele. Meteor is also the hardest hitting skill in the game, if that's what you're into. Either way you'll be fine since Pyro2 is great for soloing.

>>123857258
The one with C1 Linker.

How to afk farm with sorc

>>123857107
Nobody wants to be spending all their time playing doing awakenings, so as a result if they're going to do it they may as well get paid well for it. You have to consider the following: anybody who goes alch in final is pretty much screwing themselves out of a useful class as far as damage output is concerned, potentially more. Much like squires and pardoners, except squires fuck themselves over even earlier, so their most powerful skills aren't that good as far as lastability goes, and pardoners, well, I shouldn't need to explain.

>>123857257
That's a load of bullshit, awakening doesn't even have a cooldown timer (or if it does it's really short, I wasn't paying attention).

>>123857258
wiz > pyro > linker > pyro or linker > sorc > whatever the fuck you want.

>>123857378
You'd have to set a macro for it, and it wouldn't be effective at all because summons have absurdly shit AI. Anywhere you could potentially afk farm you would die in no time, anywhere that you wouldn't die you'd get jack shit from it.

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>>123857407
Only for the jew-est of men

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Just got lv161 at Demon Prison. Why people complain about this place? It's comfy as fuck and relaxing.

How long can i stay here for opt exp?
Prison 2 is lv160+ but the map is kinda tricky, is it worth it?

>>123857770
Depends on the class you have.

>>123857818
Male Pyro/Sorc. I can clear 2 rooms by myself.

>>123857873
Bokors and Pyro Sorcerers are easy mode on Demon Prison

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i dont really think it was worth but well i got the glove.

>>123854745
as cutie as QS is, it has no actual leveling skills. Rapid Fire sucks, Caltrops is weak and long CD for that kind of damage.

>>123857948
>worst hair
all that wasted potential

>>123855981
>wear rank 6 armband
>loading screen takes an hour

>>123858210
>red armband when

IS THIS FUCKING POISON CRITTING ON ME

HP, def or Crit Resist gems for shields? I'm not planning to PvP

>>123858318
Yes, with YOUR critrate and it's boosted by YOUR elemental gear.

>>123858352
HP gems all the way.

>>123858318
>poison critting for 1k+ each time
>poison duration left: 16 seconds
>can't do anything but watch as my character dies
i always think i should buy antidotes but i never did

>>123855443
>you think you take wiz 3 for energy bolt and earthquake?
Obviously.
10k damage man

>>123858001
it goes a long with the quarrel outfit

>>123858376
Fucking hell

>>123858498
Antidote isn't working, I always have like 20 handy

>>123857407
> awakening doesn't even have a cooldown timer
it has 10min CD
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/21007

>>123858591
>Fucking hell
In addition, it's basically you attacking yourself, so if you summon familiars while lets say you bleed, your bats will attack you.

GG WP

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is there an actual stationary punching bag in the game?
i want to see what the owl damage scales with and it's rather annoying to do with monsters that run around and punch me in the face.

>>123856035
>if it doesn't even come close to synching up with when you reach new class ranks?
it is supposed to, just look at the quests levels

imc just understimated the players

>>123858694
Owls are magic damage.

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>>123857107
>>123856937
you see anon-kun
i would not mind doing it for free to friends or (future)guildmates.
but strangers / randomfags / BRs / Pinoys / other-niggas can pay for it

>>123856630
I do 130 boss rush solo and never die to mineloader because I'm ranged and he's slow as fuck but


fuck those almost invisible zaibas that harpy uses

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>>123858498
>>123858318
>he didn't took Peltast c1
Can't feel your bleed or poison over my block lol

>>123858934
>>he didn't took Peltast c1
Fuck. I did. I can fucking do that? Thanks

>>123858934
>blocking poison
one job IMC

>>123858967
jesus christ are you even testing anything or just mindless playing the game ?

>>123859072
I didn't think putting up a shield would somehow stop a poison from killing you. How in hell would that even make sense

>>123859110
It makes sense when the poison makes you punch yourself in the face. Think about it.

>>123859110
it makes sense when bleed is literally you hitting yourself

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>>123859110
>How in hell would that even make sense
>make sense.... in TOS

>>123859176
>>123859197
Now it does. I never even got hit by a bleed/poison this hard before

>>123859176
>>123859197
>get 'bleed' debuff
>keep stabing yourself with arde dagger
makes sense now

What was the name of the game before RO? People keep mentioning that ToS has RO style, even though RO wasn't the one to invent it.

>>123859348
Diablo?

>>123859389
i dont think that counts
a lot differences

>>123859348
probably World of Warcraft because it was first MMO

>>123859348
Project R1. The the website got a picture of a Swordie and an Archer sitting on a squire table at West Siauliai Woods

Is Zemyna's +32 Ignition the highest refine on the beta right now, or have people on Laima/Saule/Gabija gotten higher?

>>123858562
Going for the princess leia look, Just in time for the force awakens too.

>>123859575
I think there's a +40 Trinity sword with a retarded meme name somewhere.

>>123859348
You mean Arcturus? The game that was made into RO?

>tfw I'd rather have a party of archers than have one swordie along

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What do you guys think Sheperds will do? I kinda want to get this class just for the dogs teebee-eich

>known monstrace bug on /tosg/
>nobody who experienced it wants to do a forum post
>"somebody else will do it for me"
>Complains that IMC doesn't fix its shit
I think done leaking things from muh sekrit klub to /tosg/. I'm never imparting wisdom to you guys again and just lurk.

>>123859829
Same here, but that's only because I'm a pyromancer and I'm tired of people knocking my fireballs that do 5x their damage out of range.

Well now that most of us have a good idea of what the game is, what you going to roll when the game goes Open ?

Quarrel and Cata probably, for me.

>>123860035
I haven't even read about this supposed Monstrance bug at all and I read /tosg/ over 12 hrs a day.

>>123860085
>monstrance and swell body remove blue/white/gold mob buff

>>123860060
why not take Rodelero and Chronomancer to complete the crappy quartet

>>123860112
Oh, that one.

>>123860112
that`s it ?
>>123860035 why 'sekrit club' and not post in on forums ? you dont benefit from it, do you ?

>>123860153
*Dievdirby and Chrono

So, I wanted to play monk but I have no idea what classes should I pick before. I mean, does it even matter?

>>123860229
No, priest buffs will fall off pretty fast and krivis has only zalciai that will benefit you.

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>>123860112
Don't spread misinformation about the best class, please.

>>123860173
Because I'm an anti-social faggot clinically diagnosed with schizophrenia. Forums and Reddit are scary. Also I've learned a lot of things here so its a way of giving back.

>>123860289
Love doing that.
It's too bad I've yet to see a white mob with any worthwhile drops.

>>123858779
I was a bit confused because they weren't exactly responding to weapon swapping very fast.
Upon further investigation, in seems like matk is sampled only once for owls, when they are placed, instead of every tick like it is with some other damaging spells.
The fact that I had two owls out at the same time with one of them consistently doing around 200 more damage per tick than the other seems convincing enough.
Also, I am now almost 100% certain owls aren't affected by arde dagger: while switching from empty hands to rod resulted in the aforementioned damage increase, switching from empty hands to dagger didn't do shit.
Suppose I might as well carry an extra set of items just for owl-carving!

>>123860038
That's my reason too. Muh DPS.

I can't wait on open beta and live for people to complain Pyros aren't doing anything in party play, while they're knocking fireballs all around and leading the enemies out of the damage zones.

Speaking of I've grown to hate the explosions on level up and class level up when they're happening like 10 times a run or more.

What's the best Wiz build for controller mode?

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>>123859963
The dog is its own class no?
Number 20.

>>123860343
same here.
100+ dungs have only 2 entrys. i will prolly solo or duo/trio them with at-least-slightly-smart-ppl

>>123860393
its confirmed to be the tumblr-otherkin class
you can shapeshift into a dog or fox or attackhelicopter or a glass mayo

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>>123860153

I already did it

>>123860706
>8x

You could at least try.

>>123860481
You mean druid?

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NO

>>123859963
I just want the costume, but the dog's nice too. It's cool seeing Falconers even though it doesn't seem like they do anything.

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>>123860153
>>123860197
Didn't really want to go r6 because none of the options seemed fun.
Might rush diev into druid just to perform the rape.

>>123861180
is Rodelero even good?

>>123860981
[ShindoL]

>>123859963
CC maybe? Herding enemies into nice groups.

>>123860421
I wish there was a linker for swordsman classes, like a Retiarius class or something that could keep enemies tethered to themselves, hangman-ing them together with the fireballs they knocked away. Or pulling a Samson and having them run around through the enemies with a bunch of fireballs tied to them

>Summoned Poata actually fighting and not just bugging out

>>123861079
I saaw a falconer duel someone in pvp, they get lifted up by their falcon and can shoot while in the air. Movespeed is faster than mounted too.

>>123859963
It'll be like falconer and do absolutely nothing.

>>123859963
They will be future proof

>>123860981
Has anyone died from this or being made to bleed by plants?


I dislike the ones where you get dizzy or fall asleep for some reason. What even makes you dizzy, move-wise? I have never seen dizzy status outside of plants.

>>123861641
>auto-attacking archers
>doing damage

>>123861583
An improved version of Growling?

>>123861180

>diev3

why do people enjoy suffering so much?

>>123859664
Isn't it Doge's Trinity Sword? He's also from Zemyna

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>>123861803
Ayy
I only said shoot, anon.

>>123861776
it's the same as stun no?
sword2 restrain does that.

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I don't know where the wiki got this info from but it appears Sheperd will be a natural advancement class for melee type Clerics like Paladin or Monks. So I guess my Sadhu will have to go Plague Doctor, hopefully they'll have mATK buffs or mDEF debuffs

Where is the 130 dungeon?

>>123861971
Forest of Prayer, the sign outside of the Residence

>>123860173
I know, have tested and found(debatable someone probably also found this shit out) a couple of pretty heavy stuff. Some I found here. Some exploits don't even need a 3rd party program for it to work some do. I do report a lot of shit. This is gonna be my last post so don't bother seeking a reply.

/blog I'm out

>>123861937
>main stat: spirit

Into the trash it goes.

>>123861882
Wasn't that broken to be good already? What would improve it?

>>123861937
Can I remove the plague doctor mask?
I don't want to hide my qt face.

>>123862082

>doge stats influenced by spr

wow

>>123861910
When will players learn and only make parties of cleric and mage classes?

WHERE ARE MY PATCH NOTES DISC?

>>123862171
Apparently all the mask does is change your stance animation

>>123862004
But it says 132

>>123862380
fuck recommendations. type /indun.

The game looks gorgeus. Sadly I have promised to myself that I'll never get hooked on any MMO ever.

>>123862206
If only they didn't remove the paladin attribute that increased magic damage by 100%.

>>123861227
What? No.
Interrupting certain mobs feels great (like the ones with gust, fuck that shit), but a lot of the time I just get stuck in those extra attack animations and/or ping. At least rodelero's interrupts are fast, unlike swordsman's bash or peltasta's umbo blow.
Trying to interrupt player spells is a fucking joke, however.
Most of the time the other guy isn't even where he is on your screen, so you might as well just mash buttons at random and hope something lands. Maybe I'm just bad, these things usually take more than a few duels to figure out.
Could talk about every skill in detail, but really, I'm not even using them most of the time, except for Montano because it doesnt require a shield.
Swashbuckling 10 into slowly killing everything with basic attacks is perfectly fine though, not going to complain.
I heard on c2 slithering offers full spell evasion, which sounds absolutely great for tanking caster mobs.
My guess is that after they remove meme dagger from the game (or add a shield with the same effect) and improve ping by a lot, you could maybe take rodelero to add some interrupts to your damage build or something.
But still, god damn, why did they have to make shield "charge" so underwhelming? It looks like it's supposed to be the rodelero's signature move or something, but instead you just walk forward slowly with a moderately cute animation while doing no damage and not knocking players away, then come to a full stop for another half a second before being able to do stuff again. And by stuff I mean, absolutely nothing. You do absolutely nothing as a Rodelero.
Oh, and one more thing.
Those aren't actually spats.

>>123862417
Easy, don't get hooked.

>>123862171
I also SOMETIMES invite only ONE swordsman for swashbuckling.

Sometimes.

If you dont have swash, I'm sorry. But look, you can overkill trash with your barb/highlander, right?

>>123862562
>He would reject a cute Fencer
;_;

>>123862562
>gimping your party by getting wizards and archers when a swordsman is available.

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>>123861910
I invite all the archers and unpopular classes to my parties!

>In the cathedral with the dead bishop
>This isn't so bad
>Can't see the enemies using ice pike, just take damage
>Can't see them using freeze, just get frozen out of nothing
>Take damage before they even attack
>Sometimes that "normal" ice bolt flies straight, sometimes it homes
>These maidens are ugly, bring back Pawnd/els.

>>123861937
which wiki is this?

Can players use that lightning spell enemies always do that drops like 5 lighting bolts out at once instead of that one circle clerics do?

>>123862684
You will meet the poleax wielding Pawnds later and they fucking hurt.
Get ready to get demolished in the protect the altar quest if you're a melee with shit gears and no swashbuckling.

Why aren't achievements account wide?

>>123856352
Pardoners 1 SPR will equal 1 MDEF for whole party, that seems worth it if you can keep it up 100% of the time and are fully a party slut.

What does placing a Falcon Perch do?

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>>123856871
I've had a similar experience farming varv skins for a Beetleback. Only 1800 kills for 15 skins!
Then I reconsidered and sold the skins to buy rubblem cores

>>123862872
Good question. Likes are, and maps seemed to be until they totally bugged out on me.

>>123857006
Definitely jewing, yup.

I guess anyone asking more than 200 per repair is a jew.
Asking more than base price for pardoner scrolls? Jew.

Nevermind the time, initial time investment, or supply and demand, jew.

>>123857257
This is false, source: I'm an alchemist.
Also the CD is broken on it so it's instant.
>>123857107
1)Failure cost
2)Time investment, you can't speed it up, yes it's only 5-10 minutes per run for the lower level stuff, but in those 5-10minutes I can make better profit elsewhere.

Good example here: I currently have 40 Grima Pants recipes in my inventory and 10 Grima Pants. Each one I purchased for about 10k~, it takes me another 9k in Calcite then 5-10 minutes to do the run, I can sell it for 400k, 350k if I'm going fast.
Why would I ever run your stuff for cheaper?

I can farm (as can you) and make 300k in an hour starting at lvl 130 EASILY, and getting experience if doing so. Why would I do your shit for cheap?

>>123863037
Maps aren't. It just carries over when you switch, but restarting the client would revert it back to just the character's. Had to retrace my steps three maps back on alt

>>123857258
If you're not taking at least 1 point in Linker you're throwing away damage buddy.

>>123857770
I found prison 2 comfy and prison 1, not at all. Personal preference I suppose.

I just hate the tileset at prison 1, and the mobs...

>>123862976
That reminds me, Appraisers probably won't scan enemies because we have that journal thing

I'm on my Alt and it's class level 15 ready to hit Class Rank 5.
It's a Wiz>Cryo>Psychokino>Pyro
I'm currently on a dilemma on whether I should go Wizard C2 for Surespell (for uninterruptible ice shards pew pew) or Thaumaturge (planning to go full CON and use Transpose to swap shitloads of CON for INT when switching walking tank mode for dps mode (also for the fap hand buff +200-something patk/matk buff to boost c1 cryo and pyro damage --- I'd also probably go Thauma c2 as well for the other fap hand for the additional +200-something patk/matk since I'm using Awakened Arde D)

Wat do?

>>123858657
The cooldown is currently broken, you can repeatedly go in.

>>123862801
tosgame, it hasn't been updated in a year and 90% of the info is entirely wrong

>>123863070
How do you make 300k in an hour?

anyone wants to do the 175 dungeon? I just want to level fast

>>123863070
The prices will drop the more alchemist there are. Things will definitely be different on release.

>>123863193
i had that too but doesnt not happen often

>>123858694

Aren't there training dummies in the highlander master's room?

>>123863296
you can only do 1 damage to them

>>123863167
They will, this was confirmed well after journal was in.

>>123863245
Drops from mobs, are you not selling recipes you get?
There's also Legwyn's gimmick that will get you 100k-500k everytime it opens (once an hour?)

>>123863271
Maybe, jToS has higher prices, 300k. Not sure about kcbt3.

We'll really see in kobt as most iOBT will base prices on that. As it stands even without considering "It'll be gone" most people consider my 250k prices 'cheap'.

>>123863280
It doesn't happen often that you finish first, but the cooldown is nonexistant, I do grima Pants (7~ minutes) back to back for over an hour, not a single time did the cooldown happen.

Now, a very annoying thing that DOES happen is that if you crash while going in (Channel crashes) it eats your calcite, if you crash inside it eats your potential. This shit can be hazardous as it happens with the channel you went in on, whether I've done it at Miner's Village 1 or any channel in Klaipeda. It's not super often but yea

>>123863423
twice an hour was confirmed

>>123863296
Yes, they're actually used for a quest, so you should kill them when you get the chance.

>>123863271
Remember that demand will also grow.
Sure, it only takes one incredibly bored alchemist to do your awakenings for cheap, and with a lot of players it's likely that at least one incredibly bored alchemist will be online at all times, but how many people do you think will want their items awakened and how many times do you think said alchemist has to run the awakening dungeon before he regrets his r6 choice?

>>123863423
> not a single time did the cooldown happen
how the fuck ? i sometimes have no CD but usually its there
thx RNG bugs

Y/N: Awakening cooldown should be increased to AT LEAST 1 hour.

>>123863470
Damn, that's a lot of money farmign there then, the running back and forth mechanic is not fun at all for me personally, but that's a lot of money to be made then especially if you have something that can hit the whole area, and double your profit if you have an AFK in your party.

>>123863562
There's no real argument against increasing it
Keeping it low is massive casualisation of the game

>>123863562
I only support this under one condition.

"Next Wave" button be added. If that's added I don't care because I can spam next wave and be done, as it is now it's 30s-1min between waves and it's mind numbing to sit there doing it.

>>123863562
if you want to pay even more for your awaked shit, sure

>>123863504
Even if there's a lot of demand, people will still go to the cheapest alchemist.

>>123864118
*and suppliers will undercut each other to get customers.

>>123864176
and some nigga will do it for free

>>123864176
>>123864408
Not him, but there are a finite number of suppliers, each with finite capacity to produce. So it's not so simple.

>>123862663
You got it right, A swordie. Only one.

>>123864432
for the people without groups sure

>>123864118
Here's the thing like I said, the point that we're at now is already cheap.

No alchemist is going to spam awakenings at a LOSS, that's what you're not understanding, the current price is getting somewhat of a profit, and lack of experience, the profit covers the experience.

Example 1: I spend 1 hour farming Roxona, I can get 300k+ easy in that 1 hour
In 10 minutes this equates to 50k

Example 2: I spend 10 minutes doing an Awakening, Grima Pants. 3 Calcite = 9k
I charge you 250k
250k-9k = 241k profit

Example 3: (Post CBT probably won't see shittyitems with good awakenings)
Spend 10 minutes doing an Awakening:
Max Pentamion. 12 calcite = 36k
I charge you 250k
I make 224k profit.

Right now that's a lot of money, but a lot of that is due to the fact that they are low level awakenings, and yes if you went out of your way to gimp yourself using a production class you should be getting profit.
If prices lower any more than 100k, the profit isn't worth it at all.

How does one trigger this quest?

http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/16500/

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After jumping from demon prison with the lv7/8 cards method, I can just pop every card I get from 175 as soon as I get them, right? No more card hoarding, r-right?

>>123864590
>Spend 10 minutes doing an Awakening:
>Max Pentamion.
Max Peta should take 18 Min or Longer

L40 trash is fast cuz white+low_ilvl+low_stars

>>123864661
Make sure you have like 100+ lv 7 and 100+ lv 8 exp cards anon or to be sure. Do the Math and calculate.

>>123863176
WHY EVERY THAUMATURGE GO FULL CON, MY GOD, STOP THAT

>>123864661
yes. no need to save when ur 175
>>123864635
>Required Level: 9989
its not active in our version

>>123864705
Do you have the info on time? I did some lvl 120/170 items that didn't take long, but I imagine the rarity means more than I thought, since arde takes some time, but Sharp Shooter wasn't that bad despite being 170.

>>123864743
so i can go edgy glass cannon with transpose

>>123864719
Actually, I'm already done with it. I popped 149 lv7 cards and about 100 lv8 and jumped from 166 to 176.

>>123864770
So that's it? Thanks.

>>123864770
Many lvl 9999 quests ARE active but are auto activated.

This one however is most likely not as I do not have it on my list, meaning I did not complete it or somehow missed it being autoactivated at a boss sequence.

>>123864789
from my list

Meme Dagger 18 min
Legwyn Gloves 18 Min
Wizard Braclet 18 Min
Rapid Bangle 18 Min
Karacha Dagger 18 Min
Lapis Katz.. 13 Min
Elder Rod 6 Min
Scale Boots 6 Min
Grima Pants 6 Min
Forest Robe 6 Min
Spiked XBow 6 Min
Sup Scale Mail 6 Min

>>123864849
well then, gratz, anon. do some lv 175 dun and go hit 186 then you'll overcome the exp wall and level to 200 ez pz

>>123864875
Wow meme dagger didn't feel that long at all.

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>>123863247
On Gabija btw

>>123864956
yea
its color + stars

white 120/170 stuff is still fast

>>123865015
be a real human bean and just solo it _______

pyro->linker3 or cryo->linker3?

>>123865219
I tried, it would take far too long and I'm not pacient nor have much time to do that

Play a better class. I'm not letting you leech off me when I can just do it myself.

>>123865419
no

>>123864817
Here's the point: you can ALWAYS go that if you go full INT, and get more shared points because INT gets a +10% bonus with each new rank.

Go 200 CON and 0 INT = get 100 CON/INT
Go 200 INT, end up with 220 INT = get 110 CON/INT

It even grows bigger with more points, because of bonus points plus rank bonus

>>123865243
why?

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>>123865243
>Cryo 1 for 4 whole circles.

>>123858694
get a squire to arrest enemies or a linker to hangman them or a peltassta to taunt them

>>123865243
If it's not cryo3 or psychokino, don't go cryo generally.

What is your end goal here though?

so that means I should go Wiz c2 rather than Thauma then?

>>123864590
>No alchemist is going to spam awakenings at a LOSS
You won't believe me if I said I met an alchemist doing awakes for 50k. Surely you've seen the market, people ARE selling at a loss.

Post CBT, prices are unknown since it's either gonna be random, with a long cooldown or both.

You can keep your pricetags, but like I said, there will always be someone doing it at very low price just to get customers.

>>123860060
Monk/shepherd for punching with doggo and cata squire alt so I can speedily haul my repair shop where ever me and my friends are farming/grinding.

Everything hurts in the 130 dungeon

>>123865968
I know an alchemist who has awakened my items for free. I've also paid market value for awakened items on the market, for two reasons: (1) expediency; (2) I don't want to continue using my alchemist friend's services for free / without proper compensation, and it would be rude to refuse his offer to do it for free.

Just pointing that out.

People doing it for cheap doesn't contradict the fact that others will still buy awakened items for high prices on the market.

>>123865968
>always be someone doing it at very low price
and while that guy is busy/offline/not-watching-shout/afk/whatever , i will still sell my stuff for a higher price.
same as now

So why does no one do tincturing?

>>123865857
What the hell does Wiz C2 offer you over Thaum that has instant cast skills anyway.

>>123866238
It's shit.

>>123864817
Your HP does not automatically refill when you use Transpose, keep that in mind.

DRUID IS SHIT

SHIT
H
I
T

>a guy sells petamion recipe
>prepared to pay up to 8m for it
>he starts auction in chat
>announces several offers, then mine comes - 3m
>goes silent for no reason after last announcement
>after 10 minutes says he sold it
>reveals he traded it for toy hammer, karacha dagger recipe and 1m
fucking T rated for tards fucking children

>>123866245
Spellsure. I'd like not to be interrupted while I do my ice shards pew pew (Ice Wall + Psychic Pressure) most especially during boss battles and dungeon rush boss hunts (most particularly when solo because party system is bugged af )

Pyro->linker->pyro3->Alche
Pyro->linker3->Alche
Which one would you rather play?

Is it too late to get in on the alchemist money train? Right now I'm Wiz>Pyro2>Thaum2, I was looking at Alchemist for Rank 6, but it looks like alchemist potions sell for half the price of NPC potions already. Is Necro worth taking? Or should I go Thaum 3 for big head silly mode?

>>123853594
>53 posters
ded game

>>123866340
I know. but when you have shit loads of CON to begin with then have it switched to get shitloads of INT during times when you need shitloads of firepower, your current HP would simply scale down but remain full. Right?

>>123866419
I would honestly tell you to practice and just be faster at setting Ice Walls than to pick Wiz C2.

What are you trying to build are you the Cryo 1 Linker 3 guy?

>>123866481
shit is kinda cheap. many niggas trying to jew but they suck

>>123866425
>>123865243
>link3
AYY LMAO

>>123866425
I went pyro into link 3 and then alch. No regrets
>>123866627
I don't see the issue with link 3.

>>123866592
nah. I'm the Wiz>Cryo>Psychokino>Pyro guy
Thing is, there are mobs and at higher levels most of which are magic-types. They can't miss and keep interrupting my pew pew. i could easily melt dungeon bosses hp within seconds but gdi these mobs keep interrupting me. I was thinking that Surespell would help remedy that.

>>123866508
>Persona General
>44 posters

>Idolmaster General
>74 posters

>Undertale General
>38 posters

>Bloodborne General
>72 posters

>Guild Wars 2 General
>70 posters

Since buffs that affect attack speed are broken, what the fuck does Quicken do for Chronomancers? Literally nothing?

>>123866557
Yeah your right, I misreading what you were building. Thought you were going full INT and balancing it with transpose.

>>123866789
ded games

>>123865968
Right now they are doing so because the money is gone by end of month. This sort of practice is rare even now, you won't see it in OBT or it'll be rare/dickheads trying to lower price without a care.

I and m ost alchemists sitll won't lower our price just off of that.

>>123865243
>going pyrolinker3
>links monsters
>fireball lv5 with for 2x it's damage
>you just did about the same damage as a non-linked lv10 fireball
wew lad

>going cryolinker3
>ever
do you hate yourself or something?

>>123866238
You mean briquetting?

>>123866797
If there's enough time left in the beta, I'll let you know when I make it there. I'm doing this build:

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/g9ntkcpvgi/

FUTURE PROOF CLASSES

Rodelero
Druid
Chronomancer
Wizard
Archer
Hunter
Falconer

FUCK THESE CHAIN FREEZE FUCKING FAGGOTS I'M SO FUCKING DONE

>>123866789
Games are ded before release.
What a time to be alive.

>>123866964
stop being shit

>>123866807
It's just a theoretical build. But is it feasible? Do the 10% per Class Rank bonus still apply when you switch CON to INT?
I really like the +218 matk/patk buff for Right Fappy hand on Thaum. That much bonus atk would also provide a huge boost for ice shards pew pew.
I need your inputs, anon. I can't move on until I fully weigh in the cons and pros of either class.

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Will Tree of Savior get its own anime later?

What class would the MC would be?

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/11/29/three-of-nexons-games-are-getting-their-own-animated-series/

>>123866951
>No linker
>No peltasta

Nice bait.

Aggro generation classes will always be future proof since there is so little.

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>>123867142
Swordsman, kids love that boring class for some reason

>>123862489
Shit I really want that slithering skills to become even more pve unkillable but to get C2 just to get it? fuck that noise

This has been bugging me for a while, how do the graphics in this work? Are the player characters actually sprites,or are they 3D models with limited animation?

>>123867241
>Nice bait.
What tipped you off?

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>Thaumaturges

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>>123867142
What if, hear me out, the anime centers around the bartender. Episodic format, every episode is about MC listening to his customers adventures.

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>>123867142
Needs to follow the story of a qt3.14 Fem Squire that misused her EXP Cards and is now perpetually stuck at her current level hell. Spends her days going around and cudling other players using Base Camp.

>>123867306
2H Barbarian? Dual Wield Corsair? or regular 1h + Shield?

>>123867241
>linker

is it even worth going C3 linker?

the problem with linking is it could fuck you over and link itself into a circle stopping it from reaching other mobs because they're too far away to latch onto

you still need a fucking swashbuckler to link it right unless the mobs are aggressive

>>123867441
I never knew how much I needed this until now.

>>123867441
I can see it now

>anime shows rodelero using it shield to decimate enemies
>people posting in threads >implying rodelero can do damage
I cant wait

>>123867446
>>123867142
>>123867306
>>123867441
DEMON COCK !
DEMON COCK !
DEMON COCK !

>>123867332
It's like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QafDmE2EGYs

>>123867441
This format is good but if miswritten, it would be like monster of the week style.

With this kind, each episode can cater specific build or class eventually, all build/classes will be shown. Sounds awesome.

if you go archer ranger c3 do you still use any of archers skills?

>>123867241
>bait
youandthejoke.jpg

>>123867463
MCs aren't allowed to use shields. They aren't cool enough for the kids.

>>123867464
>you still need a fucking swashbuckler to link it right unless the mobs are aggressive

also to add even then if the mobs are aggressive unless you got enough AoE ratio the max aggressive mobs you can lure wont be more than 5-6

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>>123867142
>Someone saved my screenshot
I feel special.

im kinda bored with the beta at this point and dont want to burn myself out on level1-120 stuff

when do we get the next beta to test better classes and the new balance?

Someone help me for a moment.

I'm going rodo c3, I know it's shit but I want to test some things.Problem is I probably won't have enough dps.

Is barb1 enough for dps?

>>123867746
kCBT next month if you can get in it

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>>123867463
Peltasta

>>123867746
2 months probably

>>123867780
nope get max swashbuckle before going full rodo

then deck yourself out in +aoe ratio items

>>123867784
Meant kOBT

>>123867845
So pelt2? But I thought Rodo didn't have DPS to sustain itself?

>>123866951
>falconer
How so?

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Do we have any Rodeleros that can comment on their class? I'd only be taking a single circle in it.

I know they aren't exactly good, but I'm curious. Currently Pelt/Hop2

how better is the 400k pet than the horrible looking 100k

>>123867881
I doubt the skills on a 3rd rank would help that much

I dont have much idea on other classes but I leveld a C3 peltasta I'm still viable in grind parties and dungeons despite doing 0 damage

and if the mobs around me are soft enough I can lure a shitton of them and 1-2 hit them with my umbo blow + high guard bonus damage

>>123868190
Problem is, I'm going rodo for c4/5/6 so I can't take pelt3. I heard pelt2 is meh and needs armor break from pelt3.

>>123868097
Are you blind? The 400k pet is fucking ugly compared to the rat.

>>123868343
Bette go Hoplite then

BR isnt that good as a sword and board and C1

Is anybody considering playing KOBT ?

>>123868752
get me an account

>>123868752
A bunch of anons will be doing it
Try not to buy accounts on the shady sites, they get banned for breaching TOS in various ways and you get fucked

>>123868949
Got a site suggestion? I was going to buy one, but none of them look particularly safe.

>>123869003
None of them are safe, get korean friends on mypenpal or int or some shit

>>123869030
Is that really that much safer?

I never messed around with any of that cause I have no interest in learning hangul, so I don't really have any korean friends, just a few american korean friends who aren't fond of asking their hookup for more 'favors' in this way.

>>123869186
Here:
https://www.obtgame.com/verified-tree-of-savior-nexon-korean-account.html
Purchase from this website, and post here when you receive your account.

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>pay2obt

>>123869371
Is it not better to buy the whole nexon account from those sites if theintention is OBTs, since you're automatically in?

>>123869371
so if i would get a acc

do they block IPs ? do i need to use a VPN ?

>>123857057
Does Shoggoth consume SP over time? How are skeletons? Flesh cannon looks good for bosses but shitty for everything else.

Necros where do you gather your corpses? This is getting tiresome

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>>123859963
It will probably be really good at gathering mobs. Like the dog will herd them. The dog will probably have support skills like licking ally wounds or something too.

Could be super neat

>>123870053
You can buy it from Necromancer Master, anon.
1 jar for 500 silver. 1 jar = 30 corpses.

>>123870198
FUG

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What

>>123869912
Nope. Doesn't consume SP over time. Skeletons are slightly retarded. They sometimes stray off to attack monsters instead of following me. But when you get 5 of them (or more), they're pretty decent.
Flesh cannon is great for slow, stationary targets. The aoe is pretty good as well.

>>123870236
I can't blame you, anon. They didn't even bother to translate the Jar the Necromancer Master is selling.

>>123869912
No, but you can't deactivate it either. It doesn't have the summon devil's stick-close-to-me setting.
Skeletons hit for 600~800 per hit, they hit two times faster than your shoggoth, they're bugged though, classified as monster so you'll lose them when you get near an NPC or if you get into an instance cutscene, they'll turn hostile.

>>123870263
you can never escape

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It lets me replay videos from when I crashed due to touhou too

These are probably automatically recorded I dont remember recording any of these myself?

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And now after exiting and restarting it gives me this.

Nice game, IMC.

>>123854010
You really don't need CON if you have DEX.
I got to Lv140 on my pyromancer without CON, and I had like 4k HP.
On this Corsair I had 10k at that level and a lot of evasion from DEX.

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>>123868926
>>123868949
>>123869003
>>123869030

I think I'm done wasting away my life on gook MMOs so I'll share my foolproof method for getting korean accounts that's never failed me over the years:

>sign up for international language exchange/penpal sites
>set name to random western female name and profile pic to picture of an attractive girl
>message koreans, copypaste some shit about how you're really interested in korean culture and are a gamer etc.
>there's this game I really want to play so bad but it says you need a korean ID/phone verifcation to register ;; please help? >_<

>this usually worked for me no more than a few attempts or half an hour of time

The key is the pretending to be a cute girl part. It exponentially increases the chance of random Korean nerds being willing to help you and not telling you to fuck off

>>123870831
Won't this backfire once you decide to stop interacting with them?

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>tfw the balance is so bad that i end up picking the same classes over and over in the character simulator.

>>123870956

No, once you get what you need from them you're done. It's not like they can unverify your account as long as you yourself made the account and just got them to give you the phone verification text code (I think)

>>123870831
You can even get your catfished gook friend to carry you and give you free shit.

Daily reminder to paste this into the hotkey xml to be able to create parties with shift + F11

<HotKey ID="MakeParty" Name="Make Party" DownScp="party.ReqPartyMake(123)" UpScp="None" Key="F11" UseShift="YES" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="YES" />

awakening does have a cooldown it is just buggy as fuck just like everything in the game
clearly you havent done a lot of awakening if it has never triggered for you

Should I npc this chaser?