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>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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>>123798886
Thaum is best costume of those 4.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbIyguzRqvk

what the hell is going on here?
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Is this shit any good? Might use it on a gem otherwise
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>>123799037
Thaumaturges are the best, that's why
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Finally free from demon prison, and I never even visited the second one, nor had to compete with douchebags over spawns.

>>123799123
It's shit, salamion is shit.
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Slut tier: Sorcerer, Archer, Oracle, Peltasta, Highlander, Scout, Squire, Necromancer, Sapper, Pardoner*

Not a virgin tier: Rogue, Bokor, , Barbarian, Rodelero, Fletcher, Linker, Quarrel Shooter.

Pure tier: Falconer, Swordsman, Dievdirbys, Sadhu, Wugushi, Monk, Priest, Krivis, Cleric, Psychokino.

Cutie tier: Druid, Chronomancer, Fencer, Hoplite, Pyromancer, Cryomancer, Hunter, Ranger, Paladin, Doppelsoeldner, Corsair, Schwarzer Reiter, Pardoner*, Thaumaturge, Elementalist, Alchemist, Wizard, Cataphract.

* = can move quickly from cutie to slut.

Why are you not using a cutie costume, anon?
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>cant use long stride with meme dagger
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>>123799563
Please stop bullying Necromancers. At least I'll be a cutie on my alt
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xth for
>remember that earthquake is good. a naked pyro2`s balls do over 8 times more dps. but earthquake is not shit
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>>123799276
Really? Whenever I see a sorcerer with a temple shooter summoned, it's called salamion
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>>123799742
Oh look the asshurt faggot can't let it go.

Learn to read before bitching
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>no one talks about the lvl 160 dungeon/mission

why? i tried it solo, got rapped by the 2 bosses, but it was my falt since i was listening to some shit on the youtube and lagged a bit, which resulted in mebeing rapped by knockback balls

what's the reward?
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>>123799804
Same as merc missions. Hats/subweapons/cheap red weapons
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>>123799785
its just funny mate. just not for you, cuz you got BTFO

:^)
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>>123799780
That's summoned through the summon skill, there's a skill specifically called 'summon salamion' which is something else.
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If I wanted to be a spellshop jew, Should it be priest c2> krivis c1 > Pardo c2?
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>>123799563
>all my character classes in cutie

Yes!
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>>123799563
Slut tier: Druid, Chronomancer, Fencer, Hoplite, Pyromancer, Cryomancer, Hunter, Ranger, Paladin, Doppelsoeldner, Corsair, Schwarzer Reiter, Pardoner*, Thaumaturge, Elementalist, Alchemist, Wizard, Cataphract.

Not a virgin tier: Falconer, Swordsman, Dievdirbys, Sadhu, Wugushi, Monk, Priest, Krivis, Cleric, Psychokino.

Pure tier: Rogue, Bokor, Barbarian, Rodelero, Fletcher, Linker, Quarrel Shooter.

Cutie tier: Sorcerer, Archer, Oracle, Peltasta, Highlander, Scout, Squire, Necromancer, Sapper, Pardoner*

* = can move quickly from slut to cutie.

*fixed
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>>123799963
Its hilarious that this thread is filled with dirty brs such as yourself. Yes.
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I finally did it but my poor money.
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>>123799785
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redflag for party members

>full support cleric
>full tank swordsman
>archer (all classes)
>wizard c2/3, psychokino
>has an ugly hat
>has pink hair
>has X and or # in their names
>has dark, dragon, or wolf in there name
>has a mainstream weeb name
>has no con in their build
>maymay name
>sits there without saying a word
>"can you please invite my friend"
>member of tosbase
>plays with a controller
>uses ToS forum unironically
>uses the shout to socialize
>uses the piss text for things other than LFP
>does not have a meme dagger
>does not have an upgrade weapon
>does not have at least 10 likes
>is under the age of 21
>is a faggot
>is BR
>is pinoy
>is from reddit
>is posing for a kiss
>is male (character)
>posted their character in /tosg/
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>>123800167
You dropped it or bought it?
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>>123800167
My theory is that like Brandish, Tanu leaf also has a bugged drop rate
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>>123800298
I goyed out, It was 1.5m.
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Please tell me these shardstatues really drop wizard bracelets.
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>>123800371
they do
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>>123800227
ok to me
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>>123799563

Can't wait to get rank 6 to be a cutie Druid.
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>>123800528
We can be cute popolions together!
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>>123800371
Got 2 yesterday, felt bad for those afk necro/sorcs
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>>123800167
>>123800345
gz

1.5m at 200 is kinda cheap
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>>123800227
your'e gonna grind alone all the time anon
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>>123800341
Brandish has a bugged drop rate? I know there's one guy who's been looking for it for a while.
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>>123800759
>>123800341
it exists >>123768686
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>>123800631
Dragons are cuter
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>>123800227
>6 redflag
I wonder who has the most
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>>123800759
not proven but it might be considering how rare it is and everybody has to go through 3f

>>123800887
I know it does. Its supposed to be .01 but something probably added a couple zeros in there
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>>123800887
Yeah and that cock sucker wont say what dropped it.
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>>123800341
>>123800759

Where does Brandish drop?
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>>123801063
http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/41276/
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>>123800167

b-but and the poreset
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>>123800227
I only meet one of those flags, and it's on my main (pink hair)
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>>123801025
It's already listed on tosbase as dropping from an enemy that's on 3rd floor of mausoleum. Whether or not this is true stands to be seen.
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What is the point of transpose? It gives no benefit at all.
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>>123801313
There is no way a level 80 mob drops a level 170 spear.
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>>123800227
>has an ugly hat
but all the hats are ugly
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62 lvl 7 cards in main chamber is correct?
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>>123800227
You forgot "pretentious faggots that make lists of things that trigger them"
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>>123801165

Thanks, anon. Guess I will go live there for a few days.
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>>123800227
>uses the piss text for things other than LFP
that is !!text ? i used that for sell/buy too. does that count cuz same ? its business like LFP
>has no con in their build
con from gear is fine, right ?
>>123800981
no other apply to me
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>>123801484
I think mushcaria works well on certain costumes, but not all
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>>123801583
kek
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>>123801613
No you won't faggot.
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>>123801657
Reddit go home.
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>>123801657
It's actually 8 desu
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>>123800227
>posted their character in /tosg/
These have been the best people I've partied with, though.
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>>123799563

Peltastas are cuties too!
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>>123800227
So whats gonna happen to you when tosg makes a guild?
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>>123801747

Why not?
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I recently went sorcerer and decided to use all my cards to level my Glackuman to 8 because it seemed good.
Now everyone is telling me I should've used Templeshooter instead.
Can I undo the crafting? How screwed am I?
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>>123800981
>has an ugly hat - all hats are ugly
>maymay name - 1/2 a point, not a meme but a mainstream character so maybe
>sits there without saying a word
>member of tosbase - Yes I have a forum account, but it's to save builds I wrote up there to check back later
>uses ToS forum unironically - I report bugs/etc
>uses the shout to socialize - Yup
>is male (character)
>posted their character in /tosg/ - 1/2 a point, posted name only

7 points.
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>>123802021
Peltastas' costumes are designed so that your eyes are immediately drawn to their fat thighs and cute feet.

The type of person who plays this is the kind that would get you drunk, lead you away into her room, and bully your dick into oblivion.
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>>123802106
I'm not joining that, I'm joining Something Awful, those guys are going to control the market so hard, you guys are going to lose your shit trying to make some money.
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>>123802309
Glackuman isn't even top 5, what the fuck are you doing.
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WHO ELSE IS HAVING FUN???

still not sure how many Zombify points I want
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>>123802496
5-10
Zombies really fall off in the later levels though when mob density is sparse.
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>>123802420
No, they won't unless they are actually no lifers
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>>123802106

>95% beta faggots.
>1 or 2 alpha faggots with a superior complexity that will take leader
>1 girl (or pretending girl) causing drama by being a slut with multiple guildies.
>split guild between trying to be hardcore and not hardcore
>split guild between using [voice software] and not using it
>beta faggots feel bullied when they are told to get on [voice software]
>a small group of elitist faggots will do dungeons only with themselves, making other anons feel not welcomed in the guild
>kissfaggots trying to lessen the drama with kisses
>drama about leddit faggots infiltrating the guild
>unclear goals and leadership lead the guild to miserably fail
>guild splits into 2 or more subguilds
>it starts all over again

I can already see it.
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>>123802496
hhaha how many grapics do you even have?
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>>123802496
Hoplite is fun
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>make party with a peltasta and a paladin
>they block and heal all incoming damage while making fun of how squishy and useless you are

God help my dick
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>>123802106
It would be extremely cute.
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>>123802735
You know it, every single time, and it's always just as fun as the last.
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>>123802309

You can use Mutant types?
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>>123802645
>2016
>no lifing
there's paid bots to avoid that anon, just make a pc that can run multiple clients at the same time and voila make money while you fap, work, sleep or play other vidya that's more fun.
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>>123802106
To answer your question, I would join just to see this happen >>123802735

Its gonna be beautiful.
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>ranger

how bad is that and why someone would go archer > ranger > ranger?
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>>123802309
Glackuman is a mutant type. You can only equip devil/demon types. You're 100% bent over and fucked by an egnome.
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>>123802961
err, yeah watch the no lifers inflate 1 drop to 50 million while they also bot. where's your control now.
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No one willing to grind demon dicks with me on Gabija? ;_;
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>>123802867
For me.
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>>123802309
amazing BR
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>>123802735
>implying the guild slut won't be playing as a boy ingame
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>>123803310
What's your level?
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>>123803567
150
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>>123803065
It just werks at those levels.
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the fuck
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>>123803065
Not very good but better than the alternatives.
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>>123802735

you forgot:

>all the drama starts stressing you out
>you try to relax by going into /tosg/
>all the threads are about guild drama
>you remember how beautiful and peaceful the threads were back in these days
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I'm really torn between Female and Male Thaumaturge. Female is cute and has rare panty flashes. Male looks cool and has double thumbs up and double victory emotes for maximum hand size emotes.
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>>123802735
>hardcore
How hardcore can you be in this game? I feel like that unless there are some huge PvP arena rewards put in, there won't be the same elitist split off.
The goal in this game is always to make your character cuter.
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>>123802961
why do people think no lifers got no dosh
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>>123804089
>not having all your gear +15
>not having level 10 gems in every single piece
>not having all your gear awakened
>not having your stats perfectly min-maxed for maximum deeps

And that's just a few.
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>joining a /tosg/ guild filled to the brim with guys pretending to be girls
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>>123804424
>Not being ranked #1.
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>>123804424
>you will be excluded if you dont have the following

i can already see it
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>>123804527
>joininig a /tosg/ guild filled with cuteposters, avatarfags and erpers
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>>123799563
I only play cute classes. I'm having a hard time deciding what I should roll at the release.
What do you guys think, Elementalist or Hoplite?
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>>123804089

Will depend on how they plan to expand the guild content. Something like guild vs guild, or guild rankings, etc.

There will always be faggots doing every instance of every worthy dungeon every single day.

And also we will have to see what actual rates we get when the game goes live, if it is slow exp then we will see a big gap in levels between members of the guild. This will lead to people to separate on different groups, between the "hardcore/no lifers", and the rest.

If there is a guild members limit, then I can see (depending on the leaders) something like "if you are not level xxx+ by next week you will be expelled".

I don't know, faggots will always find a way to be faggots.
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>>123804529
>rank 1

Fucking alchemist dungeon using cunts.
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>>123804089
There will be a pretty huge difference between people who play hard and those who just play casually in this game. Right now everyone is gated by the Lv200 level cap, but when the game comes out for real and it goes up to Lv600 or whatever it's going to take the more casual people exponentially longer to get up to the endgame. If you aren't one of the frontrunners, the hardcore folk, leveling spots will be pretty shit since you have to fight over them with the vast majority of the player base. By the time the general playerbase gets to cap the more hardcore people will already be completely decked out and have a ton of their open world and world boss drops, simply because there's significantly less competition.
Why would anyone that is part of those hardcore people ever want to party with someone who isn't? There will just be a tremendous gear discrepancy there to the point where you would basically carry them. Not that this would even matter for a very long time since reaching level cap will probably be a year long endeavor for the casual crowd.
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>>123800341
Also Thick Chain, also the Vikaras dropping things like its a Kepa
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>>123802496
Cute found!
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Ok, I'm going to make a swordsman now:

Highlander or Barbarian?
Which has the smoothest experience?
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Wouldn't it be better for someone who plans to go Bokor 3 to invest heavily in SPR?

>Zombify
Zombie HP scales with SPR

>Effigy (NO COOLDOWN)
No INT scaling

>Hexing
Scales with SPR

>Bwa Kayiman
No INT scaling

>Samediveve
No INT scaling

>Ogouveve
STR + ((INT)(.5) + x)


The fact that you can endlessly spam Effigy with the extra SPR seems pretty huge

Am I totally wrong in all this? Why would I get INT at all? Is there some scaling that I don't know about?
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>>123804089

>posts on /tosg/
>gets told to get the fuck back to leveling

W-well then.
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>>123805479
barb
highlander is fine if you wanna go fencer or squire
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>>123805479
1 circle of highlander into barb
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>>123805576
I think someone said the scaling was shit for their hp idk never played them
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I know I'm probably one of the few sapper3 here, but did anyone else notice Spiky Shooter actually does strike damage, despite the tooltip saying it does pierce?
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>>123805576
What are your plans when SPR is shit and you're rank 8 with either 2 ranks in one of the r7 skills that beats bokor the fuck out, or a r8 that is better?

Be upset cause you invested in SPR so heavily and very few classes are scaling with it?
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>>123805749
so, swords 1/highlander 1/barb 3/??????
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>>123805916
ayup
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>>123799563
>Get the Barbarian outfit
No, Necromancer is not sluttier than this, anon
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>>123805916
or sword / pel / barb c2 / corsair c2
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>>123805916
You're better off taking Pelt 1 over Highlander 1. It might be weaker than Highlander early on but late game, the ability to draw a bunch of mobs to you for easier grinding is great.
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>>123805916

sword/pelt/barb2/corsair2
sword/pelt/barb3/doppel or fencer
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>>123805576
Bwa Kayiman is better and it takes Physical attack.Not now when channeling gets cancelled if you get hit
Effigy/hexing is shit till they fix the third hit and someone from an old thread said that even at 200 SPR, Effigy still eats your sp.
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how long will take to reach level 600 ?
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>>123806126
missing out on +50% crit attack for lategame tho
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>>123806126
I guess the evasion attribute on Guardian is kinda neat, too?
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>>123806209
Depends if he's taking Doppel or Corsair/Fencer
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>>123806186
Ask IMC senpai.
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>>123806209
>only works with 2h sword
You can change weapons, but that's not much unless you invest heavily on str
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>>123806186
Who knows, but I don;t theyll give us lv 600 right off the bat.
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>>123802735
This guy get it. /vg/ guilds, keep them close but never join them
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>>123806209

That +50% crit attack is nothing to be honest, it also depends on what his class choice will be after. Corsair and Fencer don't need this, and Doppel can live without it.

Pelt meanwhile gives taunt (with +25% hp), +18% evasion, block (+25% block with shield and extra defense), umbo blow stun.
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/tdjy60sduc/

Would this work in some odd way? Fencer has a skill that buffs slash skills, which is most of the highlander kit. Highlander has that skill that removes defense. Could work pretty well together.
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>>123806743
Only thing I don't like is Sword 2. Taking Barb 1 (+50% crit rate Cleave buff) , Corsair1 (with intent to take Corsair 2 in a higher circle) or even Peltasta 1 are far better options.
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>>123806807
please

stop

posting
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>>123806186
>>123806505
Ktos still has 220cap
no 220+ content

it will take very long until they add Lv600, if ever
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>>123806103
>>123806126
>>123806140
Thanks for the feedback.
I guess I'll do Peltasta, it seems more fun desu.
As for stats, I'm thinking 5Str:3Con:1Dex:1Spr.
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>>123799563
>calling the cute pardoner outfit a slut outfit

Are you retarded?
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>>123807242
You do mostly Dex featuring some strength. Add Con/Spr when needed.
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Reminder to those having stutters on some skills, weapon switching and opening the item window to turn off water, environment effects and fast loading in the user.xml
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>>123806186
3 weeks
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>>123805576
There is scaling you dont know about.
Max effigy when finally fixed will have 2.6x to 3.6x scaling with magic damate aka INT.

Zombie HP scaling with SPR is broken right now too.
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>>123807321

It is on cutie tier too.
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Will we get extensions of existing C6's ? (Doppel 2, Alchemist 2 etc)

Since the non-released circles seem to be 7-8, and most likely people would want to take them, it could create awkward situations, where you'd be forced to either go 2/3 on your current C6, or spread thin and go for the new ones instead.

Especially if they do indeed make Templar the guildmaking class.
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>>123800227
>needing a group for literally anything

>>123800167
Oi i got a deal for ya, goyim. Unmute
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>>123807785
They'll most probably move some skills of R6 to R7/R8.
Druid R6 has 6 skills now, They'll probably move Shape Shifting and Telepath to R7 then add 2 more for R8.
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>>123807242

No Spr, no Con. You don't need them, just don't forget to neglect your defensive attributes. 3 str : 1 dex is good, or even 2:1. What I did is this:

110 str, 10 dex
120 str, 20 dex
...
200 str, 100 dex

which allows me to put most points into str for early levels, as that is how you level up fast.
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This is RARE, rite?
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>>123808087
It just means you're underleveled and they deal more damage to you.
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>>123808150
I mean, the mob.
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>>123808061
oh, that is a good idea.
thanks!
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So I thought 3F of Mage Tower was absolute bullshit for Bokors during this godawful bug. Then I got to the cathedral.

Fuck you too, imc.

Holy shit, I hate you so much.
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>>123802309

well, you can feed this thing yo your templeshooter when u get one
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I keep seeing all these people around level 170-174 now that I'm finished dungeon and gaining the remaining cards I can before levelling up. Is this to be expected, or did these people fuck up majorly and not fall for
>saving your exp cards
not actually a meme?

I just used my cards to hit 175 and still have 40 8's left from 162.
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>>123808296
sort of I guess, it has a 30 minute respawn or something
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>>123804891
At least your server doesn't have a BR rank 1 with a bunch of people sucking his dick while handing him rare drops and crashing channels so other people can't get items.
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>>123807242
>>123808061
This worked fine for me, max dex.

>>123808087
If it's the thing on the 2nd prison, it spawns every few hours or something, You can open a chest if you kill it.
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>>123808394
those people fucked up senpai, saving your cards is not a meme. Saving your lv6 and lower cards is a meme though.
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>>123805887
shell out shekels to but a reset scroll from the item shop
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>>123807242
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/wjnbm1g9kn/
What about this skillbuild?
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>I spend more time afk than actually playing the game
I'm playing the game the right way, I guess
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>This mind numbing grind to class 12
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I want a giantess Peltasta to sit on my face.
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>>123808652
Nah, I'm going to have to disagree with that. I saved a majority of them, since the 130 dungeon carried me mostly between 130-136.
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>>123809276
What in the unholy fucking huh?
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>>123809369
You're supposed to dungeon at those levels senpai
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>>123809276
What on earth
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If I went Pelt> Rodo c3, What's a good R6 for me?
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>>123809276
Swelling went too far.
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>>123809521
fencer to be the cutest grill in town
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>>123809276

is this an exploit? please share
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>>123809521
Sword 2
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Any suggestions for what I should go for rank 5? My current build is sword-->Highlander-->Hop c2
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>>123809521
Squire
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>>123809521

Rode3 is rank 6.
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>>123809773
Squire
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>>123800227
>>posted their character in /tosg/
only this, I'm clean
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>>123809501
That's exactly what I'm saying. I 130 dungeoned from ~130-146. I pretty much didn't need to use any cards to stay in sync with the various areas, so I inevitably saved a shitload of cards.
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So whatever happened to the any class at level 1 exploit guys, did anybody tried to level with it?
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Why are all peltastas such bullying, cock humiliating sluts?
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>>123809521
Not possible because Rodelero c3 takes up ranks 4, 5, and 6.

Is there a video of a Rodelero using High Kick anywhere? Its a shit class to take to rank 6 so I haven't seen it yet.
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FINALLY! I FINALLY GOT MY WIZARD BRACELET!

too bad i still need another
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Anyone wanna do the 175 dungeon? I just want to hit 15 class fast and go sleep
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>>123810491
Have fun anon, I got mine after asking /tosg/
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>>123810475
On the subject of Rodelero, Slithering gives 100% evasion to magic damage. So the class is a bit more valuable than previously thought, of course you can't attack during it but you can still tank magic mobs using Swash/Slither.
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>>123810460
>Not playing a Monk or Fencer or Shwarzer Reiter to fend off against their lecherous ways
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New class info when?
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>found a jewdoner selling buffs on laima
>25k for sacrament
>i buy one, ONLY one, for testing purposes
>addicted

help me
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>>123810987
what a jew thats 3.5k on gabija
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>>123810987
Bought 5x from this guy, I want my fucking money back because I bought that expensive Blessing too.
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>>123810542
If only you'd asked 45 minutes ago, I still wouldn't be in this dungeon soloing it safely, one spawn at a time.
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>>123811769
I was doing other things earlier. Can't you make a party, invite me and we do it together? I don't know if that works.
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>>123799079
What? You mean the silver and items appearing out of nowhere?
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>>123811958
It would work
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The 190 dungeon is outside of the mage tower, right?
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>>123799079
Looks like a quest boss location
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>>123812384
Are you on gabija?
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>>123811170

i can't blame him since he's the first pardoner that i see selling buffs here.

that sacra extra hit hurts, +500 dmg on frozen mobs with my autos
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>>123812424
yea
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Does anyone know why blunt weapons do more damage than rods while in buffed OOB? I'm doing some calculations and it just does't add up, the formula is this:

Normal OOB = ( mATK + 70 - mDEF ) * 1.5
Buffed OOB = ( (mATK * 2 ) + 70 - mDEF ) * 1.5

Both rods and blunt weapons follow the normal OOB formula fine, but rods get a decrease in damage during buffed, even though the rods I've tested give out more mATK.
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How the fuck am I critting all my multi shots, I have like 46 crit rate
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>Concentrated SP Potion
>Weight: 10
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>>123810820
I didn't know about that magic evasion effect.
In general I think the idea is that they are supposed to use their CC to prevent magic mobs from casting. At C2, Shield Push prevents mobs from attacking for 10 seconds with a 15 second cooldown. Shield Charging knocks mobs around, and Montano and Shield Shoving are interupts. Useful stuff when dealing with all the sleep/freeze/silence spam some mobs do. Now if only Rodelero had better damage output.
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I want to go rogue, but I am torn between going quarrel shooter or sapper.

Anyone know which is more fun?
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>>123813046
sapper
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Does this actually do anything for Bokors?

Or is it just absolutely useless flavor text + horrible engrish?
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>>123812760
doesnt it count patk too or something when boosted, which blunt has both?
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>>123813168
Flavor text.
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>>123811958
I'm already say, 50% or so through it, maybe more. I've gotten ~3.5m exp so far, but it's definitely a pain in the ass to do because the camera is in a detrimental position vs enemies.
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How easy is it to solo the lv 90 dungeon as hoplite? Do you just have to bring a lot of hp potions?
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>>123813569
you'll get ass blasted and take literally hours with hundreds of potions
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>>123813569
Everything is easy except the shitty birds.
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What is this thing?
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>>123807525
Thanks.
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>>123813818
A scout.
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>>123812760
are you hitting plate armored mobs?
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>>123813697
>>123813806
Who do I trust?
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>>123814215
lure mobs > spear lunge > stabbing > ded mobs
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>>123814215
i duno but, just get pots, go in and get your butt filled with monster semen
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>>123813861
Why does he sit like that?
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>>123814215
Both. The birds will fucking destroy you because they're pierce resistant. If you go the direct to boss route you will get less exp, but nothing is strong vs pierce, only weak or average.

So the 175 dungeon has 2 bosses in it. If it's like the 130 dungeon, killing a specific one will finish it. Which one is the finisher?
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>>123814446
Molich
>>
>take a break from dick prison
>read /tosg/
>'like' sound in background
>switch back to game right away
>no1 around
>got the like
faggots, i know it's one of you
>>
>>123814215
Everything is easy if you're not a shitter.
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>>123814446
Final boss of the lv175 dungeon is the one all the way at the east, Moloch.
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>>123813196
>>123813548
>>123813875


No, the buffed formula doesn't add any physical attack into the picture, but somehow when using rods there's a damage decrease. Here's a test, no magic amp or elemental damage with meme dagger:

https://u.pomf.io/lhjsdd.webm

Pendrosium DEF = 181
Pendrosium mDEF = 219
Armor: Cloth
Race: Plant

http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/57679/

My mATK with Mallet equipped = 615
Mallet : 36 mATK / 40-47 ATK
233*3 = 699 OOB damage --- ( 615 + 70 - 219 ) * 1.5 = 699
540*3+1 = 1621 OOB buffed damage --- ( ( 615 * 2 ) + 70 - 219 ) *1.5 = 1621.5, rounded to 1621

My mATK with Rod equipped = 623
Rod : 44 mATK
237*3 = 711 OOB damage --- ( 623 + 70 - 219) *1.5 = 711
526*3+1 = 1579 OOB buffed damage --- ( ( 623 * 2 ) + 70 - 219 ) * 1.5 = 1645.5, rounded to 1645, where are the other 66 damage points?
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Let's see what kind of people play this game.

http://strawpoll.me/6138164
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when do you use the exp cards ?
as soon as you get them?
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>>123814883
>Girl playing as X
>actually has votes

I'm disgusted. I can't believe theres actually creatures like that browsing this thread.
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>>123814883
>Girl playing as a girl

Not on my 4chan
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>>123815050
I'm actually more disgusted about
>Boy playing as a boy
What are you, a faggot?
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>>123815050
It's okay anon you won't find out who I am anyway you filthy faggot.
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>>123814883

>Girl playing as a girl
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>>123815226
male sorc, fuck you
>>
>with the right preparation a rogue can instantly lay down a psychokino gravity+lachrymator+any other 3 magic circle damaging skills like broom trap or wugu pot in one cast.
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>>123814883
Where is the
>Attack helicopter playing as a girl
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>>123815465
Hey buddy I think you've got the wrong door, the leather club's, 2 blocks down.
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>>123814770
the missing 47 is from your mallets physical attack?
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>>123815465
Ah fuck you leatherman
>>
Is it true that enemies have a damage bonus on you if they're too high level?
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Huh. So necromancer doesn't synergise with sorc well at all. It only uses plant/animal/mutant cards, while sorc only uses devil/demon cards.
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>>123815661
The formula doesn't add any physical attack

Normal OOB = ( mATK + 70 - mDEF ) * 1.5
Buffed OOB = ( (mATK * 2 ) + 70 - mDEF ) * 1.5

Mallet : 36 mATK / 40-47 ATK
233*3 = 699 OOB damage --- ( 615 + 70 - 219 ) * 1.5 = 699
540*3+1 = 1621 OOB buffed damage --- ( ( 615 * 2 ) + 70 - 219 ) *1.5 = 1621.5, rounded to 1621
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>>123815809
You use two different cards. Templeshooter and basically anything for the Shoggoth
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>>123815836
but aren't you technically hitting it with a physical attack? I'm just throwing out ideas here
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>>123814964
guise??
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>>123815746
Yes, they get an Attack and Def bonus against you starting at 5 levels higher than you (red name). Grinding on mobs higher level than you is often a waste of time because of that and mob exp barely increases between levels.
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>>123816014
People keep repeating it every thread. Check old threads or something.
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>>123816014
>>123814964
use all L6 when you get them or when you want

only save L7+8 cards. use these when ur 165 or 166 or so
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>>123816014
Use any card that's not 7 or 8 when you want.
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>>123815982
No, OOB damage is purely magical
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>>123814964
Save them all till you get to 165 and then use them all at once.
It's impossible to grind in the 166-177 range since some of the maps have literally 3 mobs in them.
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>>123816014
Depends on the card, and how much grinding/dungeoning you've done.

>>123816149
If you save ~180 level 6 cards you can stop riding the demon cock at 161.
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>>123816159
Guess you tested it out on plate then. maybe the calculation has a +physical attack
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>>123816149
*L6 and lower
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>>123815465
>>
>Parties will never go a week without breaking
;_;
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>>123816159
Wait try it out on sword then your sub weapon
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>>123816480
Use the shiggy diggy hax: >>123429695
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Help, I can't decide.
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Corsair feels a bit underwhelming
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>>123816159
this might work sword doesnt have a magical attack so we will know if theres an added physical attack
>>123816559
>>
I am sure by now some faggots are changing the time of every boss timer out there to monopolize mineloader and cerebus, or else you will see regular player get their hands on a trinity sword.
Some fag on Gabija even show off his 6 trinity sword collection.
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>>123816769
take another circle in Wizard.
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Truly a monster feared by all mankind.
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>>123816769
Necro obv
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>>123816834
That guy buys them, nobody knows what's actually happening, it's probably some idiot crashing channels so the bosses never spawn on time
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>>123816769
Your character is pretty much done anyway, take chrono to fuck around with and for cute costume
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>>123817056
i almost want to take alch so I can awaken shit, but the lack of ability to transfer shit between chars, buh.
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>>123816660
Oh, thanks. I missed that when it was posted last time
>>
The target locking mechanic is lubed by the tears of archers.
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>>123816943
Get necro and tell me how much dmg you do with these things. All i know is that skeles do around 800-900 per hit, no info on the other skills.
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>>123815050
You'll never know
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>>123817158
sell awakened shit
transfer money to other char and buy awakaned stuff.
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>>123816930
Going to need a full picture of that semen demon on the right.
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>>123816769
go wizard 2 for complexity and to increse your mlg mechanics
>>
Oracle is pretty funny. Some of the shit you can force spawn is hilarious
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>>123818145
Have you tried changing the quest totems in stratus gorge(?)
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>>123814883
>less genuine boys than there are fake girls
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>>123818337
Hmm, no not yet. Ill go play there in a bit. Busy wacking sticks
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>>123818126
I went alch for meme set money making.
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Stuck at 185 with 45 level 9 cards. wat do? Spam em all?
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>>123817554
Oracle outfit is pretty cute for sure.

Moo
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>>123818820
Showing off way too much skin to be considered cute.
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>>123818820
oracle outfit mysteriously gains huge hips.
>>
As a meele character, I feel that evasion is just a meme. Everything that can be dodged deals shit damage anyways, and the stuff that deals lots of damage cannot be dodged.

Is evasion just another meme?
>>
>>123818967
Evasion is indirectly a meme because DEX is a meme.
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>>123818820
Nice tummyhole you got there
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>>123818967
Evasion is good. Until everything starts chugging out magic missiles
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>>123818820

how much do you charge per hour?
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>>123819096
Im more partial to the thigh split on the bottom of it
>>
Bokor's gonna get fixed next maintenance, right?
>>
>>123819251
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>>123819171
As long as people donate to my jew box at the 90 dungeon, i dont charge anything
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>>123819251
NEVER EVER
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>>123819092
dex will reach full meme status soon people just havent realized it yet. screenshot this because it will come
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>>123819251
Sure, just like the attack speed increase from Doppels and Chronos
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Finally!
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>>123818820
Th-that's a pretty soft looking tummy
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>>123819251
what's broken?
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>>123819856
NO STOP IT SUCKS PLEASE SABER NO
>>
>>123820018
Top two:
- Effigy does not deal bonus damage
- The bug that causes channeled skills to break on damage fucks Bokors harder than anyone else

There's a lot more than that but those are the worst.
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>>123820018
everything
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>>123820104
BUT BIGGER SPEARS
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>>123820186
YOU GET A CUTE OUTFIT AND THAT'S IT

IT FALLS APART REALLY FAST, PLEASE DON'T DO IT
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>>123820104

Who the fuck would play Cataphract, they're so fun and cute
>>
>>123820382
ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT TO SWINDLE ME FROM A CONSISTENT JOB PROGRESSION
>>
How many level 7 cards are there?
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>squire with the level 11 buff is out of materials
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>>123820659
No cataphract really is bad, it's fucking terrible.
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>>123820703
You do know you can look the site up and count them yourself
>>
>>123820984
I don't want to Squire
>>
>>123820382

Is cataphract really that bad comparsd to other c4 classes? I took cataphract instead of hoplite c2 and I like it, you get to go fast and Earth Wave seems like a pretty good AoE nuke to me at least at my level (110), mob up a bunch of mobs and it instagibs them. Don't know what I'm missing out on since it's my first swordsman but at least I'm having fun.
>>
>>123820659
You get 2H spears and a nice costume. Girl cataphracts are 110% cute and definitely marriage material but that's all you have going for you.

Your skills are crap with enormous cooldowns and going fast loses the novelty pretty early. Worst of all, though, is that you can't use any of its skills unmounted and many skills of other classes cannot be used mounted. So unless you make the climb to C3, and you end up going Doppel or something later you essentially wasted a rank. And even then C3 cata is outshined.
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Girl druids should start making webms of forced kissing. I have a druid but its male, I might do it with boys though
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>>123821114
It's not. Maxed out Earth Wave is fantastic.
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>>123820147
>everything
nothing
>>
>make new character again
>doing the exact same stuff over and over
and im done, i just couldn't do it. i uninstalled.

Its only half of what upsets me, the second part is that there is a need to do this anyway. Their character progression system is frankly pretty shit.


game would have been so much better if they used a more traditional class progression system and scrapped their shitty quest system and just gave the game multiple diverse areas per level range to grind in.

Wanted to like this game but these are fundamental design decisions that i cant hope will change
>>
>>123821114

If you want to go fast, sure go for it. If you want to deal real damage, then don't go for it.
>>
>>123821157
>>123821114
anybody tested if you can use highlander skills with caraphract?
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>>123818820
Reminds me of my Wanderer.
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>>123816559
>>123816831

Just tested it, doesn't add anything. Same damage with or without sword
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>>123821195
No.
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>>123821349
Are you the "Create a new character on a new server" poster from last thread?
>>
>>123821157

>>123821114
here. I'm sword-> slutasta > Hoplite > cata so fair, going to go Pirate C2 for R5-6. Everything in this build can be used while mounted. (Except for Dust devil on corsair, but the corsair skills that acutally matter (dual weapon, hexen) can be used while mounted). I'm giving up 5 Finestra levels for mobility and utility, and a cute/10 costume. Seems like a fair tradeoff to me, care to enlighten me on why this is so bad?

Also if you didn't know Impale can be animation canceled to do decent burst damage.
>>
>>123821441

You can't use Kektar Stroke, Cross Cut or Vertical Slash.
>>
>>123821643
No, that's me and I'm just fine
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>>123821721
How is, gabija?
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Last login : 25 day(s) ago
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>>123821657
shit the class would have been good if you CAN ACTUALLY USE OTHER SKILLS
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>>123821647
>cata to corsair
But the 2H spears
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>>123821657
man highlander would have covered cataphracts weaknesses too
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Will IMC ever give us costumes with pantyhose?
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Finally figured out how to make use of the chronomancer skill set.

You go Pyro2>Psycho>Chrono and you use Telekinesis, Swap and Stop to grief people until they pay you to leave.
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>>123821647

You gave up Hoplite2, which gives you full time Finestra and 5 levels of extra stats, as well as Spear Lunge which makes pierce attacks deal extra damage (anywhere from 50% to 150% depending on mob type). Spear Lunge is one of the most important skills to take for pierce damage, and it has overheat too.

Not having those extra stats from Finestra makes you take more dex instead of str as a Corsair, which doesn't help your damage output. You also gave up 5 levels of Pierce and Stabbing, which is not the end of the world but if you want to overkill using Pierce then you need those (you get the extra hit on circle 2 too).

5 levels of Finestra might not seem like much, but once you are reaching rank 6 levels those extra points you are saving and placing into str do make a lot of difference.

Corsair also doesn't have too much synergy with Cata, since you want to use Spear+Dagger on Corsair so max out your DPS potential.
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>>123821114
Cataphracts are good, only at circle 3. Otherwise they are just above swordsmanc3
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>>123821110
If your final is doppel go hop3, if it's corsair go corsair.

Unrelated.
>ask friend to help me test something, said I'd assist him with bless/sac to do it faster
>he goes and kills a big kepa, gains 7 levels
>kills another regular kepa, gains another level, the level up splash/knockback overkills everything around him, levelling him up 2 more times
That was hilarious to watch.
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>>123821647

Oh, and I forgot to mention the stat gains from being mounted! Not as much extra damage as hoplite c2 would provide but it's something. And the option to equip trident to melt bosses is nice.

Can anyone actually explain why my build >>123821647 is so terrible without memes?
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>>123799563
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>>123822371
I never finished that quest.
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>>123822569
Does riding actually give you any stats while mounted? It just seems to boost your movement speed.
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How to get a beta key
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I'm free! Decided to grind a bit more because I'm missing 2 Lv8 cards from Uskis Arable Land and my autism kicked in. The plan is doing all the quests till Glade Hillroad, then pop all cards at once, right?
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Is it bad to take 1 circle of hoplite only?
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>>123822569
>>123822950

-> >>123822419
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>>123822950
yep
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>>123822932
>not grinding to 168
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>>123823020
>>123823038
Pelt c2 it is.
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>>123822838

Yeah it boosts stats across the board based on your pet's stats. the higher level and more upgraded the better.
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>>123822932

You are doing good by grinding a little bit extra, but don't use all your cards at once. You want to stay within level range of the map where you are doing quests at, then keep using cards to catch up each time you move to a new map.
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>>123823142

>Pelt 2

what
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>>123822517
This is hard. Both have cute costumes
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>>123823183
Whenever I mount my pet it doesn't seem to boost my stats at all. Can you post your stat page when mounted/not mounted?
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>>123823250
It's either pelt2 or sword2. I don't think barb1 is good.
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Apparently Rods have between 4% and 6% damage decrease during buffed OOB attacks
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>>123822569
Its not necessarily bad, Its just that cata doesn't have much to synergize with at rank 6 at rank 7 a
sword>pelt>barb2>cata3 might work

>>123822419
dex is a meme when you reach endgame, I am not being ironic
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>>123823329

Your pet must have stamina for it to give you stats.
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>>123823320
Also, what does Jolly Roger's combo even do?
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>>123823329

You need to feed your pet. When it runs out of stamina you lose the bonuses.
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>>123823375
>dex is a meme when you reach endgame, I am not being ironic

Yes it is, which makes taking inefficient class paths even worse.
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>>123823406
>>123823528
Oh thanks, that explains a lot.
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>>123823039
I'm following the meme, not the master plan, senpai desu

>>123823206
Oh, so that's how I'm supposed to do it? Thanks!
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>>123823583
its beta i actually encourage him to go corsair we might see something we havent seen before
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>>123823583
him going corsair might save cata since dual weild kirito horse rider might work
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Would anyone on Gabija like to run the 90 dungeon in a little bit? Almost at 86 reset so it shouldn't take long.
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>>123799563
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>>123823740

I'm not trying to stop him from taking Corsair, I just explained the reasoning behind why taking Hoplite 2 instead of Cata is a better class path going into Corsair.

Also, cannot use the flag while mounted, which is something to take into consideration.
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>>123824030

eh, looks weird desu. you give up two handed spear from cata to dual wield which is 50% of cata already, and then when you dual wield you dont have finestra all the time, and then you also cant use the flag which is like 50% of corsair c1, and then you get pierce skills but no spear lunge to make them deal more damage.
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>>123824219
what about the c2 corsair skills any of them not work on cata?
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>>123824691
yeah but what about rank 7
word-> slutasta > Hoplite2> cata>corsair2
this is all theorycraft so bear with me
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>>123824691

You forgot that you can't use Dust Devil either, combined with Jolly Roger, might as well say that is 100% of Corsair C1.

>>123824719

Only Jolly Roger and Dust Devil are unusable while being mounted. For Double Weapon Assault to work you need to dual wield, so no 2H-Spear.
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>>123825073
JUST
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>>123824951
>>123824691
So they need to add better weapons for the actual build to have the same damage as 2 hand spear

also for jolly roger level it up to minimize dismounts maybe?
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>>123824912

what exactly are the goals of said build?
autoattacks? hop2>corsair2 and hop3>doppel will deal more damage
bosses? hop2>corsair2 and hop3>doppel will deal more damage.
mobbing? hop3>doppel will do that much better, same as any barb build.

you are still losing the flag and dust devil like the other anon said, and those are the best skills you get at corsair1.

there is too much conflict in that build desu. 2h spear = no double weapon assault, dual wield = no 2h spear, mounting = no flag no dust devil, not mounting = no cata skills.
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>>123825073
I don't understand people who do stuff like this. I saw a guy who took barbarian c1 as their rank 6 class. Do they not realize they're going to suck dick?
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>154
>haven't even started the grind since all is for naught anyways
>Enduring would gibe me Rogue C2 which is effectively one skill
>grinding as ranger got tedious


I think I'm done ;_;
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>>123825440
yeah thats the biggest problem with cata atm it doesn't synergize well with other classes because it can't use the said classes skills
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>>123825494
Should've went sapper and solod your way through both demon prisons.
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>>123825682
Every 60s.
Would've been the same boring thing.
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>>123824094
Level 90 now, would anyone like to join us? Priest/Hoplite
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>>123824219

I never said Cata was the better class path per se, just that it's not a complete meme gimping your character beyond repair but a tradeoff where you give up some and get some:

Hoplite C2 Pros: Higher end game DPS in most cases from a min max standpoint

Cata C1 Pros: Dat mobility for faster questing etc., More AoE burst damage for grinding, More DPS on large mobs with tridents, Tankier from the extra HP and resists from being mounted, funner.

And most importantly, the satisfaction of being a special snowflake hipster who's different from all the silly cookie cutter kiritosairs~
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>>123825848
cata is disgusting desu senpai
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>>123825752
Except you're soloing entire rooms so that's 100% exp for you instead of split between 5 people + small bonus.
Besides you spend the cooldown time prepping the mobs and gathering them to be as close as possible for your next broom trap.
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>>123825440
so at rank 7 a
sword>pelt>barb2>cata3 might work but atm theres really no way to make cata be as great as the other choices
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>>123825494
Start a new character as an entirely different class, you might find something you like.

My first character was a wiz3, second was sword > pelt > hop > cata that I dumped at 121, third was a cleric > priest3 > monk that I more or less stopped playing at 127, fourth was a sword > pelt > barb2 > squire that I stopped playing at 128, and current is a wiz > pryo > linker > pyro > sorc > alch.

The wiz3 I stopped playing because it was suffering, the cata I stopped playing because cata is shit, the monk I stopped playing because the double palm(?) skill is ping dependant, and as a result came out absurdly slow for me, the squire I stopped playing because my overkill ability died the instant I went squire (went from overkilling 150-255% reliably to 136% max on enemies almost 100 levels lower than I was). I didn't think I'd enjoy wiz again due to the terrible auto, but it was oddly my first char to reach r6.

I kinda wanna try o ut an archer before beta ends.
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Hope you aren't wasting your money on Enhance attributes. They're literally not needed at all pre-lvl 200.
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>>123826063
yea for now cata is just a garbage can maybe a later class choice will give them some synergy
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>everyone is bullying cataphracts again
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So is pelt2 useless?
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>>123826281

I want to play alchemist but I don't want to burn out on it by playing it now.

Are you Quilin?
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>>123825682
>both
Why do you even need both demon prisons? I never once stepped foot into demon prison 2, and only even know where it is because anons mentioned it in the thread.
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>>123826306
really thses fuckers cata could have worked if highlander skills were usuable with a 2 hand spear its already a 2 hand sword user
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>>123826320
This thread goes in circles. It'll be the Archer C3 vs Ranger C3 discussion next.
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>>123826320
>not bullying classes that deserve it
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I went Pelt -> Hop 1 -> Cata 1 -> Hop 2 and 3

No regrets.
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>>123825848

lol enjoy your meme senpai
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>>123826414
Trees give good exp and can effectively be mobbed and soloed as sapper.
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>>123825848

I can't tell you how to enjoy this game, the fun factor is different for each person.

The game is easy enough to make any retarded build like Sword2>Highlander3>Barb (there is a level 200 guy with this build), as well as many other builds.

Tridents don't make you deal more damage to bosses than those other builds. I wish I could go back and record a video of my testings, but my Hoplite is already level 200 while my Cata is only at 135. But at the same level, my Hoplite C2 was heavily out-DPSing my Cata (using a +5 Zega Spear vs a +5 Galin Trident), simply because of how ridiculous Spear Lunge is, as well as the extra hit on Pierce and extra damage on Stabbing (plus stronger auto-attacks due to a more efficient stats build).

I am confident this difference grows as a Hoplite C3 > Doppelsoeldner keeps on getting more efficient, plus Cyclone and Deeds of Valor. Mobbing is pretty much equal, until the Hoplite C3 reaches Doppel, then it is no contest.

If you want to have fun in this game, pick whatever build makes you happy, I actually prefer people going into stuff that makes them happy rather than following the most efficient builds all the time.

But I also like to keep information out there, so people can make better choices for the characters they want to build. And in this case, taking Cata makes most builds be inefficient.
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>>123800167
I played till level 200 and all I got were the two collections done with the tablets.

For the future, could someone tell me how you get the rest so I don't miss them in open beta?
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>>123826894
One from a level 2 chest on the map with tanu leaf dropping mobs and the other is from a quest you fish out of a poisoned well.
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>>123826063

You can't use Embowel, Giant Swing, Stomping Kick, Seism and Cleave while mounted. So Barbarian ins't that great either.
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>>123825440
Corsairs can't mob?
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>>123824176
>no results

I tried anon.
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>>123827270

They can, just not as good as a Doppel or a Barb. Or worse, a Barb>Doppel.
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how the fuck are you supposed to kill the cerberus boss in the 190 dungeon?
he summons like a hundred adds that use joint penalty and just wreck you
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>arrive in Ramstis
>7th Chupacabra kill and I get the ears
IT'S DESTINY
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>>123826320
not it wasn't bullying, this was a fruitful theory craft session. Its not that cata is shitty its just that it has the worst synergy of the swordsman classes which is the gold standard for synergy atm

>>123827193
fucking REALLY!?
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Tila's questline is hardcore as HELL
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>>123826876

it's sad tb.h that cata is still subpar even with the MOST SYNERGISTIC BUILD POSSIBLE for it.

Imagine the hell it must be for people with non-optimal builds who have to constantly dismount and remount to kill anything.
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Is every cataphract some kind of madman?
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>>123826742
can you kill all of the trees in one Broom Trap?
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>>123827434
When he summons the mobs, run towards the left side of the room going to the corridor to pull cerbe while leaving the mobs inside the room, cerbe is much worse than firelord because of hogma shamans.
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>>123827434

You should have a cleric c1 in any dungeon run so have him use safety wall and your party to stack on it. If your party is not shit it should be dead before safety runs out. It's that or luring him out of the room but he keeps spawning mobs for a while.

Firelord does the same too but it's easier.
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>>123825440
big bias in your post about spear users

no mention of barb or highlander tells me you are just posting to validate your own build

corsair is useless without a 2nd circle in it

barb is high dps
hoplite is a medium dps
peltasta is low dps, tank

corsair is meme if you only take 2 circles
cata is meme since only 2 circles

out of fencer and doppel, doppel comes ontop easy but we only see one circle so we can't say shit of end game

I hate posts like yours anon. all you're doing is trying to validate your beta skill choices over other people when in fact no one knows nothing of what it will be and no I'm not trying to force you to saying "as of right now" in every post but don't fucking format your posts as if THIS and THAT are comparable

they aren't. you are literally comparing beta builds amongst each other and your lack of knowledge of barbs because the general trolled you to avoid the oh so overpowered class now you just make yourself look like an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about

just my few cents of someone who was swo>high>barb3>doppel level 200 and who reached top 10 on my server
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>>123827805
Some of them will be left with a bit of health but some will die too, just make sure to use collar and drop stockades while you're brooming them.
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>>123827969
>barb is high dps

stopped reading there
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>>123827969
they were talking about spears why would you bring barbs and highlanders into the discussion
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>>123827969

i was only listing spear builds (because we are talking about spear builds), as those are the ones that go along the path of hoplite/cata. wasn't comparing them to the overall swordsman tree.
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I'll just leave this here.
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>>123827969
>Was talking about spear builds
>Talks about barb

Okay.
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>>123828223
Go shitpost somewhere else m8
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This linker thinks joint penalty is for soloing only, kill me.
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>>123827802
no, that guy has the right idea if you really wanna go cata the builds that i can think of atm
its either
sword3>cata3
sword2>pelt>cata3
sword>pelt>hop>cata3

feel free to add some more if you can think of any
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Is there any hope that they will fix the dispeller scrolls for pvp?

this negates so many things. heck, it blocks even weapon bash.

ofc i agree that some bullshit needs a counter (like cryo permafreeze, sleep and etc) but giving you immunity at the cost of only silver is insane.
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>>123828223
I want someone to post a dungeon that is more than just floors. Please. This image isn't cherry picking.
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>>123828346
>Cattly is online and didn't shitpost.

What a fine day it is.
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>>123828458
Please don't bully, he's nice
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>>123828432
Where do I get them?
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>>123828432
>giving you immunity at the cost of only silver is RO.
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>>123828432
Can only use dispeller scrolls on duels.
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Why do these hit so hard? They don't even give good exp...
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>>123828432
pretty sure actual PvP with have no consumable items allowed, like most reasonable games
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>>123828223
What is the point of this image?

80%+ of those maps were not even used to kill anything.
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>>123828626
Because fuck you. we are gooks and we hate american pigu.
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>>123828587
Shut up Cattly.
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>>123828587
I'll agree if he didn't ask kisses here.
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>>123828223
>RO "Dungeons"
>mfw people complaing about ToS being hallways simulator
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>>123828626
You'll soon meet the lizard mage then, someone needs to do a doujin featuring those two mobs.
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>>123828458
I like Cattlyposting.

I set it down as a goal to kiss him before the beta ends but I get too shy.
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>>123828993
Why are you such a faggot?
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Anyone lv 200 on Gabija wants to do some fedimian missions?
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>>123827969

>They are talking about spear builds
>Posts ranting about bias and barbs
>Is a barb
>I am level 200 and reach top 10 on my server

Why it doesn't surprise me that he plays Barb? The stereotype of brainless guys playing that class comes alive with this post.
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>>123828993
I would have been friends with Cattly, if he wasn't such a gigantic faggot and asked for kisses here.
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so what toons you enjoy the must ?

i personaly like Cata and Quarrel.

i had to do some math and respect with the quarrel but i got just right now , its quite fun.
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>>123829175
>toons
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>>123829291
>brb bio
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>>123829175
>toons
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>>123829175
>quarrel
always remember pavise can tank meele attacks too with proper positioning
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>>123829175
>toons
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>>123829175

It is your goal to try every weak class?
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>>123827440

Chupacabra ears are the best.
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>>123829175
>toons
>no wiz3

I'm disappointed at you anon.
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>>123829480

Well i some one must do it right maybe its broken and nobody knows.

all i have to say is stone shot does 700 per hit at lvl 1 with 130 str and it cost 22sp.

also stun for 4s but thats a plus.
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>>123828605
1k ea if you wanna buy some

300 ea if you bring materials.
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Post pet and character
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/yn0cberl52/
Am I doing it right
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How does one build a bokor?

Cleric Cleric Bokor Bokor Bokor (no idea)

Cleric Krivis Bokor Bokor Bokor (no idea lol)
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>>123829801
700 damage on one mob is so garbage
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>>123828970
>tfw most kills on lizardman mages on gabija
>tfw 3k of the kills were wiped with the data loss a few patches ago

They are slow and will walk into any magic circle you throw on the ground.
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Didn't know you could do this
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>>123830436
>Selfcest doujins
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>>123830221
>guardian 5
You only get lv 1 for the evasion.

>corsair c1
Literally shit. Go c2 or go something else.
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>>123830436
>>123830469
Can you use an emote then log off and will it stay?
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>>123830308
I could auto attack them to death with my wizard to be honest, or link a group and shrink them so they would barely scratch me, it seems they have bad range or are kinda dumb.
Wendigo Searcher were far worse.
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>>123830281

yeah i feel you the max i can do is a splash dmg to another one but for quarrel standarts i think its all good.
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I now have the bonfire regen buffs while standing and moving around. I was poisoned when I made the bonfire then it ticked and I didn't have the regen buffs. When I stood up I did. If anyone wants to try replicating it for bug testing or grinding.
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>>123830436
>We can now kiss ourselves

What does this mean for Tree of Savior?
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>>123830741
It means when we tell you faggots to go fuck yourselves, you actually can
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>>123830727
That happened to me once but it disappeared after a while.
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>>123830727
ive had it bug a few times due to lag, but never bothered to check, does it actually give you the bonfire tics when resting?
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>>123830727
I've had that happen before. I think it was even on that same map too.
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Dudes, what's this quest about? I can't find the sticky lumps in the monastery.
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>>123830256
cleric priest priest bokor bokor if you want to be of any use at all in parties
cleric krivis bokor bokor if you want to have a leveling experience that isn't pure suffering

bokor c3 is very good but not necessary since the only thing you're REALLY getting is 165 base damage on Bwa Kayiman and a higher level effigy (not important right now since it's broken and will be for the rest of the beta)
i'm partial to the priest build since bokor is a dex/str/patk class and they really struggle with providing any damage or support to a dungeon party, c2 priest will at least let you buff people.
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>>123830954
Check those monks.
On a serious note, try to abandon the quest to restart it, you're bugged I guess.
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>>123830856
Ah, I figured it would just go away when you starting resting or got hit.

>>123830859
Ya, you can see the recovery tic in the screenshot.

>>123830871
I guess it's the map then. Is there a report glitch button like in some betas? I actually want to help bug test because I like this game
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Is Toy Hammer + Ice Wall worth it? Do I need two blue gems or even upgrading the hammer for maximum efficiency?
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>people bullying Cataphracts
I bet at least half of these people are shitters who died to Cata.
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>>123830727
I've had that happen, but it wouldn't let attacks go through while the rest icon was still there. If I sat it would remove them, but still consider me sitting and it'd give me the rest UI. Usually needed to be hit by an enemy to revert it.
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>>123831013
This worked. Thanks.
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>>123831019
Only way ive seen to report is via forums, which doesnt usually seem to amount to much, that or you get that lucky 3 seconds where the report button shows up. Though ive yet to see that in the past couple weeks
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>>123831198
I can outrun a cata and kill it without moving.
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>>123829698
the spells casters didnt really got my look

i will try ice mage thou.
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>>123828458
He said he's still banned for 19 hours
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>>123831408
Mages are easy mode. Nothing to brag about.
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>>123831198
No, Im sure cata itself is great. its just that the path to get to cataphract is a little below the average for swords man in which the average is pretty high. I'm pretty sure sword3>cata3 is the best end game build for cata atm
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>>123831475
And the moment he starts shit posting again he will just get reported on the spot. Thanks for the heads up that the mods actually did something for once
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>>123831475
Why not forever?
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>>123831475
Good. I reported his posts last time, and I hope we all join in reporting him every time his shitposts resurface. Hopefully that annoying faggot will get perma'd soon.
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>>123831770
>>123831860
>>123831954
He got global banned on /v/, he wasn't banned on /vg/
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Plate is quite literally the only type of armor attribute you will ever need, only change the gloves to cloth if you're a cleric/mage for magic amp or leather if you're swordsman/archer
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Do archers raise str at all, or is DEX the main?
I am a level 32 c2archer with 7str 11con 3int 9spr and 43 dex. Am I already fucked?
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>>123832236
>he posts on /v/
Why am I not surprised?
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>>123832236
And?
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>>123831198

I like to duel catas, as they deal no damage through safety zone and the damage they deal just gets healed, their charged skills can just be dodged by jumping and then I just double punch them to death while laughing.
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Someone help please
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>>123832293
Personally feel 2:1 on DEX/STR is the way to go, Swift steps crit attribute gives archer tree a decent chunk of crit and you can keep swift on fulltime, so you dont need DEX as much as other classes
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>>123827802
>madman
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Post cute doppels. I want to be motivated
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>>123828397
>sword>pelt>hop>cata3

This is the only reasonable one, if you're hellbent on Cata3.
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>>123828223
Nice cherry picking m8.
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>>123832293
>>123832589
Go full dex until level 120 and use iron bow/regina crossbow. Switch to full str and then start dropping dex when you can afford high level green gems and crit rate gear so you can go full str and have 300+ crit rate.
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Why doesn't mage skills scale with int?
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Is Beetleback the best shield out there?
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>>123834038

For just HP, yes. If you want damage mitigation, then you want to take a look at Aias.
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>>123834038
Not at all.
All that does is add a bit of HP.
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>>123834150
>>123834170
Are there shields that add elemental attack like Arde?
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Can someone help me with a sapper build?
I'm thinking of going ranger>sapper c3>schwarz...can I still use my traps and whatnot while mounted? Or should I just take another ranger
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>>123834209

Nope.
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>>123834375
You can use your traps while mounted on me, baby.
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>>123834375

You can't use traps while mounted. I have no idea what you should take.
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>>123834598
d-don't tell me you want...COLLAR BOMB ON PENUS?!
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I'M GETTING /CUTE/ ARE THERE ANY GIRLS HERE
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>>123834150
>>123834170
Beetleback no worth it? I kind of want a decent shield at lvl 120
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>>123834914
fug. rogue would let me double up a broom trap every 5 mins but I don't think that's worth an entire class. I'll probably just c2 ranger or falconer
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>>123835461
>shield
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>>123834976
We call it a cockring bomb.
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>>123835507
Umbo, Long Stride and Throw Spear is nice
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>>123835461

Yes, Beetleback is your best option until (if) you get Aias.
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>heal someone
>they thank me before I can get away in time
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>>123835495
just go Falconer for maximum cute, beta is over in like 9 days anyway, go out in style
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>>123836016
>900k on market
Is this fine? Or am I getting ripped off
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>>123836195
For the recipe or the shield?
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>>123836195
Varv skin is pretty expensive, people are willing to pay up to like 60k a piece so thats more or less what it'll cost in total
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>>123834375
Don't go schwarz if you want to use traps. Though schwarz doesn't have synergy well with most archer things at the moment.
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>>123836237
>>123836263
Shield itself. Guess I'll bite, thanks
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>>123836332
Aias at only 900k?
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>>123836879
Oh wait, nvm.
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Since TOS is almost over, we can all agree with this, right?
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>>123837081
I honestly don't know what to think because we got some weird version way behind the koreans.
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>>123837283
Is there any reason we can't just get OBT like Korea next month?
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Who wants to run the 90 dun.

Gabija.
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>>123837361
If there is a god, it will be held back for a couple months until they can actually fix the fucking glaring bugs
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can you re-arrange the character list?

i want my newest character to be 3rd
but I don't want to delete characters
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>>123832876
plz anon you are not even trying
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>>123837494
It can't be this bad in Korea?
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>>123837725
90% of the bugs we have dont exist in korea.
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>>123837796
>our version has a million bugs
>new patches give us even more bugs
I hope they throw out ICBT and just give us KCBT
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I want to kiss but I'm too shy
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>>123838629
practice on logged out people
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>>123838863
That's rape
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>>123838863
why are all the pardoners in random ass maps
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>>123839728

To take advantage of new players.
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>>123839728
The only random ass map one is in septyni glen, at least that I've seen.
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>>123838629
>kakwurst
>poop
>>
Depressed anon, are you here? How you doing buddy?
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>>123839728
Pretty sure Tan's box in the level 90 dungeon entrance is a good place.

That other guy who hangs out in the prison with the spell shop does well too.

I think that guy sells out quite often to the lowbies too.

Dunno, seems like they all do well enough. They arent making bank like the squires or the Alchemists though. Not even close
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So what's this alternate levelling route I've heard about?
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>>123840602
its a secret
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>>123840602
A meme that someone is trying to force
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>>123840602

Apparently it is saving your cards and maximize your time in areas where you can gain easy levels, then use your cards at appropriate levels to keep on going.

I am pretty sure it is possible to get to 200 this way, but I am also pretty sure that it is simply faster to grind at demon prison, specially when we have 2x exp going on.
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>>123840246
I'm still here.

Forgive me for blogging a little, please, since I was directly asked to do so. Today was difficult for me, and it took me a long time to be able to get out of bed, and I've been having a lot of anxiety thinking about the future. But I've also been writing about it, which helps a bit, if only as a way to organize my confused and messy thoughts.

In the spirit of on-topic discussion, I want to say that I hope everyone is having a good time with ToS and making a lot of friends.
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>>123840602
Cash shop drugs.
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>>123840602
Those merc mission things
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>>123841317
Did you talk to that /tosg/ you liked today? I spoke to some of you. I feel like I know a lot of the people here now.
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>>123840602
Party quests
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>>123841228
Demon Prison is more than 4 million EXP an hour on a good day. It's hard to beat.
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>>123841470
Yes, I did. I'm happy about it and happy for you.
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>>123841483
>>123841437

The ones in Fedimian?

I do them, but they don't speed things up that much.
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>>123841437
I did lots of hat missions, you don't get any good exp from them even if the monsters scale to your level because the exp is still worse than DP
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>>123841541
I'm curious who it is but I feel like you won't tell
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>he doesn't have a level 200 character

what have you been doing this whole time?
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>>123841794
Reading the story
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>>123841794
But I have 2.
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I literally can't play this game while horny.
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>>123841794
Making 2 R6s to see which I enjoy more.

Pic related.
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>>123841943
Why
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>>123840583
I am of the opinion that squires don't make bank, or I am doing it wrong. Alchs, though.
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>>123841794
Making more and more characters.
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>>123842031
> I am doing it wrong
Are you selling weapon buffs? Fuck your repairs.
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>>123841794
I've been working you NEET hamster fuck and it sucks.
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>>123842005
Those krivis breast crosses, so lewd.
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>>123842005
>Giving 2 characters the same hair

Anon, please.
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>>123842115
I was making an average of maybe 1-2 million a day parked outside the 90 dungeon a while ago doing repairs. Is buffing really that much more profitable? Do people actually buy it?
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So I just went through a dungeon with a WizC3/EleC3, and god damn is Quick Cast charged Frost Cloud strong. Tore right through everything.
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>>123842321
But I like that hair.
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>>123841743
That's right, I won't. It would be too embarrassing.
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Found one of those rare mobs!
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>>123842514
Can you give me a hint?
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I really want to make qt boys but I love girls outfits, someone should suggest IMC to allow boys wear girl clothes
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>>123842601
Just scouted one out too. She's on her way
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>>123842601
Please take Squire, Doppelsoeldner, or Fencer as your last rank so you'll have the ultimate rank one in each class build.
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>>123841794
I have one, and only today got around to starting my pursuit of a second
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>>123842601

not reading the class description before choosing is one way of playing, i guess.
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Who /solo/ here?
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>>123842370

Frost Cloud tears through everything even without Quick Cast. Mobs can't even really move while they're being hit by it.
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>>123842740
That's simply Highlander C3, it's a fine build.
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>>123842721
No, because that would set a bad precedent ("how about another hint?" "just one more?"), which seems to always be the case with things like these.
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When can I make sp potions as an alch? it only lets me make hp pots at level 1, and divine might doesn't work on tincturing.
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>>123842874
Well okay anon. I do hope you feel better. It's all about perspective, remember. Sometimes you really need to try to be happy, it doesn't always come naturally.
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>>123842791
How long did it take you?
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>>123842326
Not him, but only time I got a buff was when it was 30 added matk and only 5k IIRC. Also, can confirm that Alchemists are jewing it up with prices.

>>123842951
Go to the Alchemist master and buy the mats. You can make level one SP pots right away. Pot level goes up with skill level.


In other news, also figured out how to use the Magnum Opus if any alchemists need a hint.
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>>123843194
I'd like to know how it works, apparently someone said they had a full magnum opus list in a previous thread, but they never shared info. All I know is that the top alch on the server said cheminis weapons can't be made during this beta.
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>>123842983
About half an hour. If I take it slow with groups of 3-5 mobs it's pretty safe, though Necroventer's hitboxes on the dark tombstone are fucked.
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Can anyone please give me a chupacabra ear? I just want to look cute.
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>>123843574
>That hair
>Look cute
>Ever
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>>123843574
They cost 100k.
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>>123843574
they are like 80k
use your whore peltasta money
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>>123843640
>he doesn't like sex hair
faggot
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>>123843723
>random braids and hair dye
>sex hair
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>>123843808
>caring about braids and hair color at all
>not caring about the curlyness
Sorry if you have shit taste.
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>>123843808
Post more sex hair, I had no idea about this until today.
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>Pyromancer C2 Elementalist C3
>Flame Ground on top of Frost Cloud
if this beta wasn't going to end in 10 days I'd totally do this
>>
>Chat box says I have 13 whispers
>Check it
>I have none

It's hard to believe this is even a problem.
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>>123843980
It's basically something like this.
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>>123843457
Well I don't know much since I only experimented with monster mats, but just keep trying to combine them with Magnum Opus. Most of the combos I've found don't allow easy profits from buying the basic material from market and selling the magnum opus result so I gave up that line for now. Once I hit level 6 I might put a point in it and see if it works with equips. Obviously it gives hats since that gold bar hat came from it, IIRC. If you're a lazy faggot that has no desire to figure it out and ruin all fun, look in the spoiler. Putting 4 of the same monster drop in a 2x2 results in a different monster drop.
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>>123843723

That is not sex hair.
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>>123844054
Doesn't frost cloud put out pyromancer skills?
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>>123844127
Third most boring arc.
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>>123844182
it is though
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>Swell body doesn't work on demon dicks

But I had a plan
Are these the mobs I'm supposed to be grinding? Please say no so I can get my double experience and drops
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>>123844279
Find trees and make mad money and exp.
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>>123844331
Thank you anon. Those Harugals hit hard
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>>123844279
Why does every sorcerer uses that monster card? Is every other card really that garbage?
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>>123843652
>>123843669
Heh ;_;
>>
Any summoner found it worth it to put more than one point in summoning.
The scaling just doesn't look worth it to me but I've been know to be wrong in the past.
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Objectively rated. Please only pick hairstyles from the top 5.
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>>123844454
Yes. Templeshooter is the best for one main reason, it double attacks and it's main skill/spell is pretty good as well.
But honestly it doesn't hurt that despite their stats, the other bosses normal attacks and skills are fucking garbage for the most part.
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>>123844454
He hits really hard, has a ranged attack that pierces in a line with a wide radius to it, and best of all his autos hit twice. If both summons hit 100% of the time he would be worth two of any other, but I'd say he's even better than that because he hits so consistently at range. Also his riding skills are really, really good.
I actually really want them to nerf him, he made Sorcerer really broken and not nearly as interesting as they could be. I want to see variety.
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>>123844702
I like long ponytail the most.
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>>123844527
Meet me at channel 16 in Klaipeda near the Market NPC.
>>
Did ROgen die?
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>>123843808
>this shit
>sex hair
kek
>>
>>123844896
Please don't ask them to nerf. Just take one look at what they did to ice blast and pardoner.
They go overboard with their nerfing.
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>>123845001
Okay, what's your name?
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>>123844409
Trees will hit you harder.
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>>123845045
Temple Shooter isn't, or at least shouldn't, be as core to the class as those are though. I don't want them to take away his double shot or his range, that's what make him interesting. I want them to nerf his stats by a lot then come out with more cards that have interesting traits like that, or just add it to the cards we have now. That way you can use morph in interesting ways, still get the damage as well as the interesting traits, and it feels more earned and fun than right now.

>>123845240
I'll get grab more con and be more careful, thanks.
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>>123844634
I put 5 points in summoning,, 5 points in summon familiar, 2 in servant, 1 in hold, 1 in riding, and 1 in salamion. Salamion was a mistake, I should've taken morph even though it's worthless.
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>>123845314
Geez 151 already, guess I won't be getting to play with you any time soon.

Was hoping I could catch up and maybe party up but I'm only 108.
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>>123836295
SR crotch thing is sexy as fuck, I hope someone draws lewd of them.
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>>123845482
We can do a dungeon or something together if you want anon. I'll also likely be making another character once I get this one a good chunk/all the way through r6. We could quest a bit together if you have a low level.
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Which 1H spears do I use at level 75 / 120?
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>>123845001
Thank you again.
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>>123846029
>Hatsumi
You better wash those.
>>
Kind of unrelated question.

I'm not really into PVP and never played WOE on Ragnarok, but the few PVP matches I played in other MMOs are very insipid. Why don't they just copy/paste the mechanics and game rules from MOBAs? I'm also not into MOBAs but wouldn't that kind of game style attract more people into the PVP side of MMOs?
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>>123846029
Looked better with the gilt helm. There's a site that has a character preview that lets you choose all possible outfit, hair type/colour,and accessory combinations that you could've used to preview that.
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So I froze a boss in a solid 2s.

This makes me think that others afflictions like poision, stone can also applied to bosses. It's just that their resistance are too high.
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>>123845705
Which dungeon could we even do? the fedimian hat ones?

I wouldn't mind rolling a new character though, plenty of classes I'd like to test out.
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>>123846147
>Looked better with the gilt helm
Well, that's just like your opinion man.
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Holy shit I'm late to the party, that fucking memequake guy hahahaha
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>>123846264
>memequake

explain
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>>123844702
volume curl will always be goat
>>
>>123846196
Sure or maybe some awakening dungeons if I decide to go alchemist
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>>123846293
You go wiz3 into linker because earth damage is increased by links.
>>
Are field bosses camped on Gabija?
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>>123846350
dude, think about it
>quick cast attribute
>link attribute
>earth weak enemy
SO MUCH DAMAGE
>>
>>123846350
wat
>>
>>123846293
One retard was insisting that earthquake is a great skill with the right gears.

see
>>123792239
>>
>get only one Ardus dagger in SEVENTY RUNS
>get two Aias in two runs
OKAY
>>
>>123846675
oh god we're not talking about this again are we?
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>>123846675
There are two skills named earthquake. One is for cataphract, which is the one referenced.
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>>123845772
Assegai, Zega
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>>123846860
what
>>
>>123846956
assegai because silver isn't available, zega because +2 hopskill shits on anything else.
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>>123846860
no he was talking about the fucking Wizard earthquake
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>>123846956
>>123847031
'Silver isn't available'?
I thought Assegai was lv40 spear.
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>>123847138
Oh yeah, then Grand Spontoon I mean
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>>123847186
Okay thanks, that's what I thought.
>>
>Have to pick up spear after throwing
Looks fun?
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>>123847138
Oh right my bad, but yea, silver spear requires a spear that can only be made by alchemists (who in this beta cannot even make it) in order to be created.
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>>123843574
Kill yourself.
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Why did I roll archer?
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>>123847274
No shit.
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>>123846339
That'd be nice but I'd be dead weight.
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>>123845001
You fucking fag.
Kill yourself, too.
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>>123841228
I've skipped a lot of info when I gave that out. But I'm glad people get the general gist of it. Also I haven't factored in dungeons and exploiting broken mechanics when I did that and I didn't actually bothered to test how long it took me to do it so I have no Idea how fast/slow it is compared to demon prison.

>>123840831
Forcing it to be a meme is the only way to actually make you faggots listen and think about it.
>>
>>123847408
Every once in a while there's a monster with huge HP pool that's a pain to kill, class doesn't matter they all struggle against those kind of monsters.
>>
I don't want to give up my ludas but I'm really getting up there. Would a superior steel staff give more damage overall than one more level on each of my skills? How 2 get emone so I can just upgrade the ludas until it's about to break?
>>
>>123847469
I really don't care. I'm enjoying the game a lot, and /tosg/ are all really nice. It's good to know people for release
>>
>>123847539
He's referring to the fact that if you don't move, Oblique Shot will continue to secondary target the Tree Crystal even though it no longer exists.
>>
>tower shield

is this any good? i have some masks but i dunno if a should make this shield or sell everything
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>>123847696
its got a unique sprite but besides that its a plain shield
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>>123847497
You still end up in Demon Prison either way, doing that, since Demon Prison is one of the places to gain easy levels.
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>>123847492
lol what
>>
>>123847408

lol i miss this map, these did a good exp, they died in one good snowrolling, there's a lot of these guys near the 2nd demon rpison


also

>no earthquake to remove buried monsters

thanks god i have this awesome skill!
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>>123847804
Actually no if I factor in just the broken mechanic with out dungeons. I don't need to grind 70993344 exp.
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>>123846860

You mean Earth WAVE?
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>>123847408
I would just group up like 15 of those and broom trap, senpai.
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>>123847408
Those give at least twice the exp of normal mobs on the map
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Goodnight /tosg/
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>>123848194
But take five times as long to kill.
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>>123848156
Well shit, you're right. I'm a retard.
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>>123848334
Only if you're shit.
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I need 12 more of these, right?

>>123848325
Good night
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>>123848334
Not if you use skills on them? Don't skimp on the pots anon
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Has anybody farmed a dio weapon?
Or is it not worth it considering level 40 only takes a few hours at this experience rate.
>>
>>123847408
use your barrage and spiral arrow
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>>123848325
But I just woke up you little shit.
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>>123848543
Even if the rates were reverted to the ones we had before, and then lowered by one third to 2x, it would still be a waste of time to actually farm anything under level 40 outside of a cafrisun set.
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help anon, can you uggest me one plate set?

i have the plate memeboots already for int since i'm a wizard, but i want a plate armor and plate legs since def and hp matters for duels.
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>>123846782
>>123846675
ok, we dont. was fun tho
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>>123848471
i got 115 of lv7 catds. probably used some before double to get lv130. Well i'll have to stay here a little longer. And 149 is max lv7 cards.
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>>123848014
Anyway it doesn't work for all classes, as I said its class specific
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how do you finish the Disciple Hones quest in Mokshul Chamber? The part that says
>Finishing the research
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>>123834209
>>123834543
Actually, with awakening there are.

Kite Shield +16 Poison Damage
Superior Kite Shield +47 Lightning
Aston Shield +29 Lightning
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>>123848471
You get them up until the third floor of the demon prison, and at the areas between the first and second prisons.
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>>123848471
what is your TS card level?
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Parties bugged again?
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>>123847595
I'll throw you a friend request in the meanwhile then.Bingo
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>>123848471
I had 143, someone here had 149.
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tfw healing people
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>>123848969
nevermind we're retarded
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>>123848835
>>123848983
>>123849029
Alright thanks. I'll probably hit the max from these areas then.

>>123848987
Seven, almost have enough cards for 8.

>>123849021
Sounds good.
I'm going to sleep now though, good night anon. Have fun
>>
What was the point of that 233 crit rate again?
>>
>Str/Dex Bokor for Bwa Kayiman
>Int/Spr Bokor for Effigy

These fucking decisions are tearing me apart.
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Are there any cheap awakening services available?
I'm wanting to create a new character, but would at least like to have a weapon that does some reputable damage throughout 1-175 without having to spend thousands of silver on a sestas or thresh weapon
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>>123849046
>watching their health bars fill up
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>>123849219
Optimal critrate on mobs without crit resistance.
a meme
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>>123849318
>without resistance
But they do, so I have to get more than 233 I guess?
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>weapon

u mean memeset, right?

forest robe = +42 dmg
grima pants = +45
scale boots + 49 for mages

level 40 gear.

there's also hard veris boots for non-mages
get memedagger at 75 and u'll be fine with any weapon.
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>>123849489
I'm aware, but nobody's going to awaken those items you listed for anything under 200k, even if I were to find all the materials myself.
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>>123849489
earth gloves for +1x ice dmg
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>>123849613
Makes me totally wish I was an alchemist.
All the money I could make from people doing stuff like that. Then being able to do it for what ever the cost of the materials is for all you nice people
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>>123842745
aka: The LoliPantsu

I'm still sad LoliPan-san didn't make his archer rank one in each class.
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>>123849613
On Gabija already Awakened Grima Pants go for 150-250k, Forest Robe is around 200k, and the Scale Boots are a whopping 500k.
It's not bad at all considering they are basically best in slot gear that you can get as early as level 40.
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>>123849386
Yes. But with 233 you crit "enough."

Like that other anon said, it's a meme. You can get as much as you feel is sufficient.
>>
>>123849489
memeset is overrated, but it makes money.
don't forget superior scale mali for bosses, +97 on large enemies.

>>123849613
if I had awakening 2 and could make you do it yourself while I did nothing, I'd charge half of that.
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>>123849613
>he doesn't have friends alchemists
ayy
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>>123849726
to late now anyways
there are dozens of alchem. thx exp event.
some of these nìggas fukd the prices down. the golden jewchemist days are over

at least im done with gear+cash
>>
>>123849751
You can't do that on Archers because a lot of their good skills are in C2/C3.
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>>123849780
>scale boots are a whopping 500k
Do people actually buy them at that price?
>>
>>123849780
>>123849932
Just a reminder to not buy anything from Mak, the kike before he shows up and starts shitposting about how his prices are fair.
>>
>>123849932
yes.
are there any better boots for mages at L200 ?
nope, they are BiS and 500 isnt much for that at 150+
>>
These "world boss will appear soon" messages are bugged, right?
>>
>>123849780
I'm looking at the market at this very moment and the cheapest Grima pants (awakened) are 320k.
(Unless sellers sell cheaper in shout)
>>123849850
Quite difficult to have alchemist friends, considering this is my first character on Gabija.
>>
>>123849976
I'd sooner buy from the market, same for LV.
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>>123844896
>I want to see variety.
This will never happen.

It's not a Shoggot matter, it's literally boss cards that you summon.
As soon as people find the next Templeshooter, everyone will move to that and this discussion will happen again.

That said, to be quite honest, if it wasn't for Templeshooter, Sorcerer would be pretty shit.

Basically, Templeshooter is one class and Sorcerer is another class.
>>
>>123849932
Its replacement for the Cafrisun, a more expensive cafrisun
>>
>>123850221
templeshooter is OP not only because of the 2 hits, but because he has a ranged piercing attack. if he did the same damage as the others, I'd potentially use chapparition or cerberus (who is apparently quite strong), for the aoe swipe depending on what I was doing.
>>
>>123849251
Effigy is fucked right now. Besides, with alch pots (which you'll need to spam Effigy anyway) you don't need to worry about spirit much.
>>
>more then 200k for Best in Slot gear is much and seller is a jew
good morning polacks
>>
>>123850356
Making my own pots to discover that you get 5 pots per ingredient set was fucking amazing. I'll never need to buy them again.
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>>123850073
Those prices are from what people sell in shouts, yeah. I basically never buy anything on the market. People have to sell their stuff more expensive on there since the market means you suffer 10% tax
>>
>>123850341
The awakening option is a lot of int, I don't see how this replaces Cafrisun.
>>
>>123850414
What are you trying to say?
>>
how do you sell cards
>>
i just sold 120 talts to the npc.

good money
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Well fuck, guess it's time for my demon dicking
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>>123850643
Dude pays you part of the cash ro whole sum upfront and you play with your card until he wins.
>>
>>123850647
you can feed them to gems too
>>
>>123850464
You could say it's for the lategame, while cafrisun is for the early game (if you're a priest, not anything else).. Also there's a lightning element almost-equivilent in hard veris boots.

Cafrisun gives you an additional hit that is impossible to boost outside of blessing, concentrate(I think?), and arde/karacha dagger+any awakening option on your weapon. It only benefits your auto attacks.

meme set benefits all your attacks that aren't a sorc/necro summon based on int (though the scale boots version boosts those somewhat), so works better with multihit attacks that you have lategame.
>>
>>123850525
ahh you niggas talking about gabija.
is the droprate lower there ? how is 200k much there ?
>>
>>123850356

effigy bokor is THE shit in duels
>>
>>123850774
droprate isn't lower, people basically bought almost everything up on the market that was a reasonable price as far as BiS awakening items went.
>>
>>123850848
you dont get it ?
i was sayin you fags are poor polacks for not being able to spend more then 200k 300k for the Best Gear you can get and will still use at L200 which is current Lv Cap

cmon dude.. you 'farm' all you silver at red kepa ?
>>
>>123850756

+100 exp only, with the money i can buy a monster gem. but yeah, junk price is so high atm that feeding talt is cheaper than buying trahs in the market
>>
>>123851116
I'm an alch, and I wouldn't even pay 150k for an awakening.
>>
>>123851116
Back to reddit.
>>
>>123851116
I had an alchemist in gabija awake those memeset to me for 50k each.
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>>123851280
>>123851334
>>123851347
>why isnt BIS gear free
its alright redditbros
just sell the max peta recipe you maybe get for 150k or 50k to me
>>
>>123851347
If that;s; who I think it is (don't mention who) I'd say he's the only alch who does awakenings on the server who isn't a jew.
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>>123851116
>>123851449
You are boasting the fact that you got jewed and proud you spent that much on awakening. Hilarious.
>>
I paid 300k to 600k per piece on the market for my awakened memegear for a new character, but that's only because I have no particular reason to keep any silver with the wipe coming in 9 days. Otherwise I would pay an alchemist friend a small fee.
>>
>>123850073
look up a guy named Quilin, he sells all of the awakened stuff for like 200k, got all my stuff from him

/shill
>>
>>123850348
TS would still be used because of his skill set
>>
>>123851750
Apparently ceberus' is on par, according to an anon in a previous thread.
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>>123850414
>BiS gear is a lv40 gear easily obtainable
>it only takes 10 to awaken
>you can even afk inside the dungeon with templeshooter+hold
>200k
>b-but muh time

I'm alchmist myself and still think you're a fucking dicksucker jew
>>
>>123850762
I guess as a corsair, cafrisun is the best for me.
>>
>>123851902
Auto attacking classes should get cafrisun
>>
>>123851840
>arde dagger is L75 crap
>arde is easy to obtain
WTB arde dagger 200k
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>>123851840
the dungeon itself might be as easy as fuck to do via the method you mentioned (because I certainly do that), but pretty much anybody actually selling directly awakened items at this point is actualyl farming the drop itself or the recipe+ingredients to make them, because the market prices are fucking retarded.
>>
hi guys, i heard earthquake lvl 15 has insane dmg endgame. should i go wiz3?
>>
Wiz anons!
Don't fall for Necro meme!
This class is clunky and bugged, the damge is comparable to rank2 class. You are better taking anything else!
>>
>>123852503
nice meme mate

but nope
>>
So after messing about with both Fencer and Corsair C2 I can't decide which I prefer.

I think Corsair C2 into Fencer at Rank 7 would work decently, but you give up Rank 7 classes, and if you take Fencer to C3 you give up Rank 8 and 9 too.
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>>123852503
yepp is is future-proof™
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>>123852530
I'd go necro just for that laugh, the rest is just a bonus.
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>>123852618
Is it a different laugh from Bokor's creepy giggle?
>>
>>123852557
but bro
it does 10k DAMAGE !
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>>123852604
this guy sits on peoples cubes
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>>123852618
I just nad lv200 necro in dungeon, the damage was laughable.

And yes, the laugh is damn cool.
>>
Would anyone here be willing to sell me a Grand Spontoon for a reasonable price?
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>>123852765
What server?
>>
>>123852786
Oops, sorry. I'm on Gabija.

Preferably an upgraded one.
>>
>>123852765
go yolo to get the recipe and make your own via 2 spontoons+stoutlet hearts.
>>
>>123852832
I'd sell you my old one but i'm on Laima.
>>
>>123852835
I usually prefer to buy upgraded weapons if possible, to save myself the possible pain of being screwed over by anvil RNG.
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>>123852915
Mind just got sold like a couple of hours ago, sorry anon
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>>123851449
>comparing petamion with lv40 white gear

oh come on, bow you just went full retard
>>
>>123852963
That's fine, it's not a big problem.
>>
my awakening prices actually went up because I have plenty of shit left to do before the end of beta rather than awaken the 600th pair of scale boots

/tosg/ still thinks i'm a jew for not doing it for free
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>>123852156
>he thinks arde is hard to get
>he thinks it's BiS because of the awakening
>completely ignores the lv40 white gear part
>>
>>123852618
B-but muh summon army and tank!
>>
>>123853173
Never advertise yourself as a service provider or you'll be chastised eventually for wanting to do other stuff.
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>>123852997
its about BIS gear
>>123853174
for some classes arde is BIS and not only cuz the mag.att awake
>completely ignores the lv40 white gear part
doesnt matter if its lvl 170 red or L15 (vubbe gloves ?) or L40 if it had best stats and is best in slot at max lvl
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>>123853173
You signed your contract of jewship the moment you thought of going Alchemist.
>>
Needs more hats
>>
Would any player from gabija like to experience lamia?

I'm going to create a new character. To get the most out of this increased experience rate while it is available
>>
Game crashed for receiving items from the market, c'mon
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>>123808464
it spawns every half hour.
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>>123853594
>>123853594
new
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>>123853563
>increased rate
>moving to a server with lower rates
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