/twg/ - Total War General

fix the fucking OP
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral

PANTS ARE FOR BARBARS
BARBARS

Aksum > Himyar > Tanukhids > Shit > Sassanid Bitches

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Someone explain this to me. These cunts spent three turns in my province during winter and didn't take attrition. What's more is that contrary to what the tooltip says I am 99% sure they in fact reinforced a small amount.

>>123838447

tanukhids > aksum > himyar > your mom

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MY FRIENDS,

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>>123839204
>tfw

>>123838928
I wish other factions would have name change stuff like the Tanukiddies do

Call of Warhammer update when

>>123839902
It's a preorder exclusive for Total Warhammer

>>123839350

>we wuz friendz n shit

>tfw I'm shitposting on /his/ instead of doing my homework

man I had the entire thanksgiving break to do it, too

what a terrible person I am

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Does anyone else wish burning buildings in sieges had more smoke?
Also, has anyone here won as the WRE on VH?

>>123839350
Sitcom when
>Gaius the upstart son of a senator and Aulus, the rebellious son of the Praetorian Prefect getting into shenanigans around Roma and pissing off Nero

>>123840862
The series premier is them burning down Rome by accident and Nero getting blamed for it

>>123840497

I've stabilized myself as the WRE in a total war-mode hard run (declaring war on every faction at turn 1, and never signing peace with anyone, ever).

Once you fortify the Alpine border cities, it's a piece of cake. If you position your armies right, the AI usually won't even bother to attack the cities, and you only need one stack in southern Italy to push back naval landings.

Once Italy gets wealthy enough, you can afford more stacks to go out reconquering Africa and Hispania. It's not too difficult.

>>123840935
Nah, that's the S1 two-part finale
Left with a cliffhanger of course when they get trapped in a burning building

>>123841034
it's a bar
they write their names next to the door, sealing their friendship

>>123841175
>S2 is cancelled to drive people insane

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>>123841475
>>123841175

Did anyone know raiders will casually throw torches into settlement buildings to light them on fire as they walk by them?

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Egypt is starting to claw its way back thanks to my war with the sillykids. I find it strangely endearing, maybe I'll try and get the victory condition with a military alliance

>>123842239
Egypt is good at rebounding
>Blemmyes invade
>egypt shitstomped but eventually take back their land and vassalize blemmyes
>carfags try it
>egypt brutally hit until they reclaim most of the land and they peace out
sorta like history innit

>>123842220

Actually, mine usually don't.

It's annoying. I started playing the Ebdanians because I saw them completely burning down my settlement and thought it would be fun, but 90% of the time I leave units with the raider trait (which is more than half of my army by now) around buildings, they just sit there doing nothing.

>>123842529
yeah its only my second campaign in Rome 2, not really sure what ai does well and what doesn't. Last game the east ended up being dominated by super pergamon, but this game the seleucid's have been really strong, although its probably because my rampage through the Asia Minor secured one of their flanks

>>123842872
Try having them just walk past it

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How do i go about winning this /twg/?
I only started playing the game a few days ago.

>>123846305
you're fucked

>>123846497
This is my last remaining city, am i out of the game now?

>>123846562
well, you learned a valuable lesson
no shame in restarting anon.

>>123846562
keep your troops as far from their archers as you can while keeping them in the castle to trick their archers into climbing
wasy win from there, your katana samurai will chew them up bad

>>123846562
If you lose it yeah you are. It's worth a shot though, the ai might have one of its retarded moments that you can take advantage of.
I think your best bet would be to sit under the castle with everything and then mass charge the enemy as they climb up one by one, using shock to break their shitty morale.

>>123846305
your probably fucked, although its mainly because of the light cav

their yari ashi shouldnt pose a problem because of yours own infantry, but their archers will fuck you with such a small castle.

you could try using your 2nd general to bait their archers/infantry around to fight the enemy piecemeal, I think they will have too many generals to do that, and if they set the light cav on you your general is all sorts of fucked.

other thing is maybe try using your yari sam to sally forth and kill the enemy general or light cav depending on how the enemy deploys

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ARE MY CHANCES ANY BETTER THIS PLAYTHROUGH?

>>123848976
>samurai

if you'd trained ashigaru instead, you'd have a larger army desu sempai

>>123849039
>Implying katanas dont beat spears.

>>123849149
ashigaru are way more cost effective than samurai. at the very least, you shouldn't have trained bow samurai over bow ashigaru

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>mfw attila will never challenge you to a mongolian throat singing battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el93MIxAf-c

>>123848976
>haven't split up generals into individual stacks before attacking, so that they gain more XP

As for the battle itself, if you play the battle you will win without much issue.

I think Attila might be one of the best games Ive ever played, but I have a feeling I think that only because I didn't see how it was advertised, and I bought it and all the dlc on sale. Does that make sense?

>>123849760
Nah, people mostly did complained about the DLC policy. Because it was pretty shit until Empires of Sand and The Last Roman

Please for the love of Christ and all that is holy someone please tell me there will be a playable Viking faction in age of Charlemagne

>>123850807
No. Enough of the fucking Vikings. They're the ninjas of Attila

>>123851006
>the ninjas of Attila
What? And what do you mean enough of them? What other game has had them?

>>123851270
I mean they are as over-rated ans misrepresented as ninjas and they are fucking everywhere.
There's already a DLC for Attila. Enough.

>>123851437
I'm not asking for a seperate Viking themed DLC, I just want a faction in a DLC that will be released soon.
I agree they are overrated as fuck, but I still love em

>>123851557
kill yourself

>>123851557
Well I'm not against it in every way. If we get them only as one faction focused on raiding tactics an light infantry.
But fuck it: in Attila we only got the Sassanid Empire as the only non-arabic eastern Kingdom. And we got on the other side 3 copy pasted northern viking shit.

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>>123851557
>loving faggots

>>123851869
No need to be rude desu

>>123851869
No can do senpai
>>123851876
I'd be happy with one good faction with some good coastal raider units in a DLC that is otherwise heavily focused on Charlegmane. Also, Sassanids weren't arabic?

>>123851965
I mentioned in that exact sentence that I already know they are overrated

>>123851557
Weren't there vikings being killed by Charlemagne in the trailer? You'll probably get Vikings.

Probably get Charlemagne, his brother, vikings, Arabs, Byzantines, Saxons, Anglo-Saxons, Celts.

>>123852006
They're Persians, and the best way to trigger one is to call him an Arab.

>>123852248
Good point. I think it was narrated by napoopans VA too.
>>123852257
Ohh right shit. I guess that's a common mistake, calling middle-easterners Arabs

>>123839204
Hey, i remember this
http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%20Pompeii.htm

>>123838037>>123839204>>123839350
What's with the sudden gay agenda?

>>123852780

Gaius and Aulus are bros, dude, ain't nothin gay about that.

You need to learn to be more secure in your sexuality if you're going around calling any best bros gay.

>>123852780
>sudden

Also, Gaius and Aulus are bros for life, no homo in that

>>123852468

Steam page strongly implies Vikings, Saxons, and Muslims will be playable. And of course Charlemagne.

English will also be playable no doubt, and one of the Celts is very likely, given that we have 10 fucking factions of them.

6/8

Fuck if I know which of the other interesting possibilities, Lombardy, Asturias, Byzicily, and the Avars, will make it in. I'm guessing Lombardy and the Avars.

>>123840497
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY8cZUL4pfEC1erQuYiYh_7F2LYafR-wH

Might want to look at this guy anon, he won as WRE on legendary with this is total war. Guys insane.

Australian too.

>>123853095
maybe we will get the rest as DLC. Always something

When will they add an option to do an "arcing" volley instead of just straight across with archers?
I know you can force it if there's a hill in the way or something, but sometimes my archers don't quite get it and waste 95% of their shots going into the dirt or a wall.

>>123853185
We will get DLC for a DLC?
Cuh-razy!

>>123853291
Charlemagne is more like expansion than simple DLC. Its like we would get DLC for kingdoms. As long as there is less than 5, im ok with it

>>123853398
> Charlemagne is more like expansion
No it isnt.
It's a campaign pack like the Last Roman.

>>123853623
With added factions, roster, etc. Its a small expansion

>>123853719
>Its a small expansion
No, it's a large campaign pack.

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I had no clue these guys would be this fun.

>>123853902
Ok, so you will play large campaign pack, while I will play only small expansion with more playable factions thanks to DLC

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The ai isn't very good at calculating odds.

>>123854191
>being this delusioned
There were no DLC factions for Imperator Augustus campaign pack, and there wont be any for Charlemagne.

>>123854191
dude how fucking stupid are you?

there have never been dlc's for campaign packs

>>123854465
>>123854627
A man can have his hopes

How long do you think the campaign will be? Just based on his conquests till he died or all the way up to 850 ad?

>>123855003
Just probably up until he died. If it was going to be longer, it would probably include more of the map.

whelp, just finished my first civil war in Rome 2 and I've already got a low chance for it to happen again. No wonder people hate this fucking game

>>123855003
probably 30-40 turns or so after he died.

>>123856518
>rome 2

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>123855003
Start around 750. Four years later Karl gets crowned. Divine Victory in 810, minor victories somwhere inbetween.

>>123852780
Newfag detected

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Is the Warpath campaign fun?
I heard it was unbalanced as fuck, if so is there a mod to fix it?

>>123852780

That make you uncomfortable fucboi?

>>123854627
>sendai
>obama
>tsu
>saga

>>123858303
Fag detected

>>123854627
>implying FotS was a campaign pack

>>123854124
How did you rename them? Was it in-game or mods/ini edit?

>>123859729
I didn't, they automatically change to that when you settle after completing all the missions.

>>123857145
Never stop.

Playing as Aksum.
What's the "go to" unit, that should be the basis for my stacks? The Desert Levy/Spears line?

>>123859758
I settled almost all of the former western empire and I never got these missions, wth.

>>123859812
Almost all spear units in Attila are complete garbage. Go for Desert Tribesmen initially and work up to Kushite Shotelai with Spice Warriors thrown in for damage.

>>123859839
It's only for the Tanukhids, you start off getting a mission to burn 5 roman settlements then after that liberate 3 factions and then you get a mission to settle. You get all the liberated factions land a massive bonus to a lot of things for 10 turns and get renamed to "empire of the east"

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>>123859782

I'll stop when tomb kings are announced

please tell me they are dropping all their stupid fucking ideas introduced in rome 2 and barely improved in attila, politics, army limit, army requires general, stupid fucking agents and so on for TWW

Can someone post beautiful attila scenery?
Please

After four years of it gathering dust in my library I'm finally going to play shogun 2(got all the dlc in the sale)
After I played the tutorials what faction should I try? I don't mind getting my shit kicked in once in a while as long as it's fun

M:TW OST >>> M2:TW OST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HcUYUYMnVU

>>123859812
Desert Spears are pretty good for pushing into a city after you weaken the defenders with siege and archers, also work well against cav on their own. Elite T'or Warriors are good for the flanks. Afar Swordsman and the Armored Camel Warriors are going to be the focus of your stacks, though, at least until you can replace the Swordsman with Kushite Shotelai and Spice Guards.

>>123860091
All of those you mentioned are in the game.

The removal of family trees is another of the great features they kept from Rome 2, and they are continuing with the fantastic tradition of having pre-order factions. Now I know what you're thinking. "but anon won't that make TWW a lazy copy paste of R2?"

Well not all features are kept my friend. After listening to their fans CA has decided to remove features such as naval battles, the ability to dismount for cavalry, special banner carriers and of course the notoriously hated 40 unit battle.

All in all TWW is shaping up to be a great game and I for one have preordered the collector's edition for its beautiful and yet very practical drinking horn and fashionable dwarven ring!

>>123860074
so never stopping?

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>>123860928

AS LONG AS IT TAKES

>>123860573
>Naval battles
make sense at this stage of the game, but it will completely fuck things come the release of the expansions with elven factions

>family trees
doesn't matter that much. Apparently generals and agents are immortal as far as natural death is concerned, so you'll still get nice generals that you can get attached to

>removing dismount
is retarded, but I understand why they did (keeps things closer to table top)

>removing 40 unit battles
also seems retarded

>>123839902
wait anon 1.6 is here

>>123860573
>special banner carriers

the fuck is that?

>>123860573
sad chuckle

> listening to Dan Carlin's Wrath of the Khan's

Not all of this is real right? It seems far too cruel and far-fetched

>>123861174
All very good points of course however controlling 40 units just won't feel right! It's all about going deep rather than wide my friend. It's safe to say that preordering TWW would be a very safe decision indeed.

>>123861719
ironic shitposting is still shitposting mate

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More Charlemange info when?

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>>123861382
The equivalent of an aquifer

>>123861976
really odd decision by CA. standard bearers (along with musicians and champions) were a big part in tabletop army composition. than add in you had special banners that did extra things.

guess they were too lazy to do banner animations for every race

>>123851965

Well, yeah. They were pillagers, not actual armies. Your average viking from Kalmar Unionen was just an armored up peasant who had basic training in long boats and combat, but no official army. Scandinavia didn't really have any big military presence until the Danes in the medieval ages, and then much later, Gustav II Adolf/Carolus Rex from Sweden.

>>123861976
>>123861382
Wait wasn't it just "no special banners from the campaign map carrying into the battle map"? I need some fucking source.

>>123862106
banners are in the game, your units just don't have aquifers to carry them.

>>123862898
>There are currently no plans to include actual standard bearers as physical models/units within the game; we took the decision that we’d rather spend the time needed to animate and model all those different combinations of races and troops, and make more units and characters instead.

>>123862147
>>123851965

That collage is full of shit though. It's just filled with battles with filled with christian propaganda.

>Great heathen army defeated

Yeah great as in 300-500 being defeated by a numerically superior force while away from home. The same "army" that defeated the anglo-saxons most of the time. Also all them battles with vikings having christians allies kek.

Norse romanticism is annoying and cringeworthy, but so is this new reactionary anti-viking movement that has sprung up. And the movement is being led by "internet christians" whose favourite holy book is called Google.

>>123863369
>their "grand armee" numbers a grand total of 500 soldaten

I think that speaks for itself.

>>123863159
That info is right after and probably closely related to:

>As mentioned at EGX, there will be the opportunity to unlock/earn/steal Magic Banners for your armies. However, it’s worth pointing out that these will be indicated in battle through a gloriously (or disgustingly, depending on your race) embellished banner indicator above the unit who has it equipped.

So I wonder if it's these kinds of standard bearers they are talking about and not generic ones.

Though if they are talking about generic standard bearers, then that really sucks. I don't really get how that can take a lot of time and money to design. I really hope unit captains are still in.

>>123863724
it says right there that banners will simply be indicated in the regular banner indicator. There won't be any soldiers bearing standards.

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>>123863838
I want to believe.

>>123863887
It's quite simple. Just take a look at their released videos and you will see that there aren't any standard carriers.

>>123863369
> anti-viking movement
> itz da romans keepin us down
> we wuz vikingz an shit

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>>123864023
>Ragnar wuz a good boy, he didn do nuffin

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>>123860182

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>>123864023
>barbarians believing in several gods keepin us down
>we wuz barbarians believing in one god an shit

Also those northern europeans barbarians have been buying trash off the streets of the former roman hearthland because the "romans" can't fucking keep their own streets clean.

>>123864203
Shimazu is good starting clan.

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>>123864203

>>123864203

Takeda or Uesugi

>>123863998
I am pretty sure rome 2 didn't have standard bearers in their early videos too. You are probably right about the whole thing though.

>>123864358
No anime here m8

>>123860182
O T O M O
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>tfw EB2

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>>123863369

>>123864279
>>123864390
Thx lads
>>123864358
Gonna play a game about nippon might as well post a nipponese girl :^)

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>>123864756

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>>123864756

>>123864716
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>>123864756
>Alice
>Jap

>>123864203
Shimazu or Chosokabe are the best starting clans

Oda and Takeda are best clans though

>>123865331
>Oda are best clans
>Toyotomi and Tokugawa shits prevent best clan from ruling Japan

Does Last Roman worth to pick up or should I go straight to Christopher Lee?

>>123863369
>Yeah great as in 300-500 being defeated by a numerically superior force while away from home
the vikings had superior numbers at Edington mate

>>123858509
>Is the Warpath campaign fun?
Yes
>I heard it was unbalanced as fuck, if so is

The native americans are weak as fuck. If you want to win you have to change the way you play(Focus guerrilla, ambush and shit). They don't have navies, so you will be invaded by sea from places you don't expect.

Also, you have to finish the campaign fast. The europeans powers, and the US, start with a few troops but if the game drags on they will attack you with lots of full stacks. Since Native americans are weak, a full european stack is more than capable of fucking shit up. So you can still lose even when you're a few turns from victory.

TL;DR: It's a masochist campaign that will make you rage.

>>123866474
Ignore the kek
Go shed the blood of Saxon men.

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>>123866474
this >>123866884

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FIRST FACTION REVEAL ON TWITCH IN AN HOUR

>>123864413
that picture was taken from the teutoburg preview.

>>123867412
Can't see any standard bearers in the siege of carthage video though.

>>123867345
We both know it is just going to be Charlemagne, anon.

>>123867569

What else would I be excited for?

>>123867718
I meant the faction. It's not worth getting excited over the Charlemagne faction when we all just want to know what the other factions are.

>>123867908

But we may get to check out some of the new features. See how War Weariness works, etc...

>>123867908
But anon what if Charlemagne is not playable

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> Have to be up at work by 8:30
> Already 1:10
> Twitch reveal in an hour

>>123868015
Good. We shouldn't play him since he murders innocent Saxons.

>>123868107
>caring about some shitty campaign pack for a shitty game
Just kill youreself.

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>>123868495

Why are you even here?

>>123868107
>Having a job
Just kill youreself.

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>>123868107
>Get rest
>Go to work like a responsible person
>Work normally because I'm mature enough to have priorities
>Get home
>Watch the video because it's still there.

It's fucking 2015

>>123868627
I can't believe it's the current year and people don't know they can just watch shit when they get home.

>>123868578
Came for Total War, stayed for the shitposting.

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>>123857145
Die tombcuc.ks

>>123868683
In a world that gives more rewards for being patient, people are more anxious. Go figure.

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>>123868627

I'll just have some coffee in the morning at will be fine

>>123868812
>Tfw iv'e had sleep issues for years now
>Tfw i go to bed at 2 in the morning every night

>>123868107
I wake up to work at 7:00 every day

I go to sleep at 2:00

>>123868961
>>123869032

How long will the reveal be, will they be showing off the game play like with Empires of the East.

>>123869165
Probably a couple of hours

Link to twitch channel?

>>123868961
>>123869032
>tfw people are still sleeping 8 straight per day.

I sleep 3-4 hours and have some power naps during the day. Feels better than full sleep.

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post pyrrhus

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>>123869680
>have some power naps during the day.

People with jobs are talking kiddo

>>123869680
>naps

adorable

>>123869808
You know Power naps last 10 minutes, right?

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>>123869808
>wageslaves
>people

>Broadcasting not begun, but people already shitposting on twitch

Link to stream?

>>123870854
Lemme guess, MUH CHAOS DLC?

>>123871138
Turks.

>>123871058
twitch tv/totalwarofficial

>>123871138
More like memes and ebin muslim power

>>123839204
>>123839350
lol I remember these graffiti etchings. From Pompeii right?

Literally shitposting. We never changed.

Shouldnt the stream be live already?

IT
IS
ON

>>123871676
it's just a still picture with attila campaign music in the background atm

AHHHHHHHHH GIVE ME CHARLEMAGNE

Predicted factions:
>Franks
>Saxons
>Lombards
>Danes
>Wessex, Mercia etc
>Celts
>Umayyad
>Asturias
>Byzantine Sicily

What barbars to play in Attila? I have all DLC

>>123872536
Vandals. Make a naval empire in the mediterranean

its really on now

>>123872614

>settling as a horde

C A S U A L

>Those shitty victory conditions

>>123873004
The vandals should settle to get their naval units though

>>123873235
much better than the current. The building victory is kinda fishy but just getting whole map is good.

Please tell me there's some sort of rudimentar feudal system

Attila's governors/loyalty system was definitely a great step, but it really needs to be deeper

>>123873343
Having the middle victory condition literally just be "reach certain Imperium level" is mad gay.

Turns out that one anon was right. Everyone has fucking Roman voices.

>>123873495
yes it is but who is really satisfied if you just get first or second victory?

>>123873590
>Kingdom of Charlemagne
>strength rating: 2

Who's 1?

>>123873649
prob his brother

>Pope in game
my dick

>>123873649
His bro.

>Theme of Sicily

Byzzies confirmed

>>123873726
>>123873752
hope he is playable

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>>123873763
>tfw they're just a minor unplayable faction

>Chris lee wont be the voice of Charlemagne

Why guys....
why did he have to go?

>>123873852
They had str ranking 4. Guessing they will be playable

Avars confirmed

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Can somebody please ask them about War weariness and the Diplomacy AI?

> 1 of the 8 factions can raze cities
> "Can't tell you who because spoilers"

So who is it /twg/, who still has the ability to raze?

>Getting rekt by saxons

>>123873890
Because he was over 90 years old with an incredibly eventful life

>>123874258
Danes

>>123874240
They're talking about war weariness right now, fag.

>>123874065
Really hope so, given the unique kingdom mechanics and the story events for playable factions. Won't be the same modded in.

>>123874258
Umayyads. I saw razed settlements in Spain

>>123874258
Avars

>>123874258
vikings

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>Can form and become other factions

I always wanted this in Total War.

>>123874524
TW really needs to learn a few lessons from Paradox games. The campaign has been too simplistic for far too long. No need to go full gsg, just a few hints.

>>123874524
inb4 last mission is form Holy Roman Empire.

>>123874662
The best name for world conquering.

Irish factions playable confirmed
And I'm sure you can become the Kingdom of Ireland once all of Ireland is yours

>>123874847
IRA faction when?

>two turns into a new campaign
>twitter shitters hollering about "where r 300 new solders CA LIE! Hurr hurr"

Jesus fuck, CA isn't that great of a dev, but for fuck's sake, TW games have a shitty fucking fanbase.

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>Swordsmen

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>>123874524
>>123874662
Emirate of Cordoba can form Andalucia
then move on to forming european Caliphate

>>123874893
It just paradox shills

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>>123874662
>""""""holy"""""" """"""roman"""""" """"""empire""""""

All these extensive changes, these completely different stats. I honestly believe they're gonna release another campaign in the same time period that can combine with Age of Charlemagne. They're probably trying things out for the Warhammer trilogy.

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>>123874904
Yeah it should be

>SWORD-WIELDING SWORDMEN
>SHARP SWORDMEN

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>>123875021

>>123875063
Holy Roman Empire yes

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>>123875021
>yfw you can kill the pope as his model in their general during battle

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>>123864694
Have some more unit cards when the fuck is the autumn/winter release

>Still using Roman town buildings
>Not updating towns to make them look more historically accurate

>>123875028
>>123874893
It's twitch chat, it takes shitposting to a whole new level

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Can we get a list of possible formable factions?
Starting:
>Ireland
>England
>HRE
>Kingdom of Italy
>Theme of Sicily into Exarchate of Ravenna
>Avars into Hungary

>>123875330
>Emirates of Cordoba into Iberian Caliphate

>>123875068
Another campaign with the fracturing Abbasids, Byzantines, and Slavs in the East would be perfect, especially if it combines with Charlemagne .

>>123875275
> expecting updated buildings from a campaign pack

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>Age of Charlemagne
>"LEGIO PARATI!"

>>123875330
Charlemagne>Frankish Kingdom
Lombards>Italy
Cordoba>Andalucia
Wessex/Mercia>England
Saxons>Germany?

>>123875637
>frankish kingdom

you mean frankish Empire

>>123875680
possibly

>>123875680
They literally confirmed Frankish Kingdom in stream. But he will then probably go on to Holy Roman Empire

>>123875680
i think you can Reform into the frankish kingdom once you have conquered your brother

Hope you get a new banner once you form a Kingdom

> "CA a tip: if u want to make Dlc for moneygrabbing, at leadt make them decent. Redub the units quotes ;)"

15 dollars
300 new units
completely new stats

>it's shit because voice lines.

The end turn order usually lists the playable factions first, right? Couldn't someone just pause the video and figure out the 8 playable factions?

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I literally saved the Mayans. Latin America was never conquered. Spanish is not relevant. It's legal to sacrifice people for entertainment.

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wew

>>123876575
>not having BTTV

>>123876494
The whole list of factions are not a secret, we also saw them on the diplomacy screen and shit. It's just which are playable (and more importantly, have scripted events and shit) and which aren't

>>123876575
But those saxons agreed to peace.

is he attacking without siege units?

>>123876757
Yeah, I know that, but whenever I look at the faction rotation after ending a turn, I always see the playable factions listed first, and then the minor factions. I was thinking it would be the same in Charlemagne.

>>123876890
He attacked the army outside the walls, probably hoping to weaken the garrison enough that it won't matter much

>>123876890
nevermind, tought it was a siege battle

>>123876575
surely you don't gain war weariness if you're winning? You should only get it if you're losing

Wait how did he did that cinematic like shit?

>>123877062
>>123876575

they won and war weariness decreased

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Does this fucker have green beard?

>>123877147
still makes no sense famalam
why would your population get pissed off if you're giving the enemy an absolute kicking?
There should be a public order bonus for winning battles (unless you lose bare man) and a malus for losing

im just wondering when they are gonna update that shitty Empire game engine

>>123874640
paradox sucks too. The best diplomacy was in Knights of Honor

>roma invicta

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>Roman Invicta

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>>123877513
Good times

What's going to be the free-LC?

>>123877663
propably my 3rd favourite game of all time, only behind Tactics Ogre: Knights of Lodis and Rome TW

>>123877513
I wasn't so much talking about diplomacy as much as of some basic gameplay decisions common to paradox games. Events, decisions and a Crusader Kings-like system for characters/land would work WONDERS for Rome 2/Attila/Charlemagne/a potential Medieval 3.

We take this settlement for ROME

>>123877837
its fun but kinda broken since by teaching your marshals the Fortified camp skill you have more or less won the game

>>123878183
No, FOR THE TRIBE!

>>123878225
increase your troops morale
decrese enemy morale
gg

Also pillaging for shekels and exp

>>123878225
forgot the name of the skill was tactics

>>123878183
The army is called "The Inheritors of Rome", it's fair enough :^)

>>123878476
WORKS AS INTENDED

>FRANKISH
>ARMORED
>SWORDSMAN

This is Radious-tier bad.

>>123878412
you can win nearly ever battle by waiting for the enemy to attack you in you fortified camp

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wow attila is different from shogun.

where are the boundary lines between provinces?

do i need to keep food/order producing shit in the small regions and keep military shit in the main region?

should i set tax to minimal from the start of the game like i do in shogun to get that awesome growth? what about putting (what's the metsuke agent?) in cities to increase tax gain and order?

if i raze/loot cities does it fuck my honor up (fuckin me over with diplomacy??)

should i ally with niggas?

gonna try a game as persia

>>123878532
No. Radious would have been

>FRANKISH PROTECTED HEAVY INFANTRY
>FRANKISH SHARP SPEARS

>>123878550
I never tried it. I usually played it as paradox game, with all battles in automode. After playing TW games I just couldnt play them

>>123878532
>armored swordsman
>radious tier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY
thread theme

>>123878735
I play TW games in automode.

>>123878570
>where are the boundary lines between provinces?

... on the map?

>do i need to keep food/order producing shit in the small regions and keep military shit in the main region?
Works better as you can stack bonus and shit, yes. Also, any region in which you intend to make money you should also ensure food auto-sufficiency.

>should i set tax to minimal from the start of the game like i do in shogun to get that awesome growth? what about putting (what's the metsuke agent?) in cities to increase tax gain and order?

Growth doesn't mean much in Attila, except for new building slots (not wealth). It helps, but you probably need the tax more. There is a similar agent, but I can't remember his name, and it's kind of a small limit.

>if i raze/loot cities does it fuck my honor up (fuckin me over with diplomacy??)
There is no honor. Razing and looting will give you penalties with their friends, but their enemies will like you better.

>should i ally with niggas?
Should you?

>>123878570
Sassanids are literal easy mode.

>>123878869
talking about the campaign map itself. not the overview map.

same for naval provinces? do i have to worry about certain provinces having bonuses like blacksmiths/superior horses/etc?

is naval shit important (like with capturing trade nodes?) does the ai land troops using navies at all?

so better to just have the agent out assassinating and sabotaging shit?

is there that whole realm divide type bullshit in attila like with shogun? if so alliances always stabbed you in the back anyway

>>123879025
they are? like your shimazu/chosokabe in shogun?

how are the jews over in the arabian area?

Jesus Christ, total war fans are the pissiest god damn bunch.

>>123879153
You can see province boundaries on the campaign map, not sure what you're talking about. Maybe you can't see them between two provinces you own, I'm not sure - check borders with other factions. Also, provinces are divided in regions in Attila, maybe that's confusing you.

Naval stuff can be important and the AI definitely does land troops, but there are no trade nodes like in Shogun 2.

I'm lazy with agents and generally leave them on simplistic roles, but I now realize I was confusing Attila and Rome 2. While Priests can have a minor tax boost, they usually don't. The possibly tax-boosting agents are spies, who can reduce corruption once they achieve a certain skill. Corruption eats away at your income as your empire grows.

There's no Civil War/Realm Divide. Closest to that is Governors, Generals and Armies having loyalty/integrity, which can lead to rebellious armies and provinces if you don't manage them right.

>>123879434
>like your shimazu/chosokabe in shogun?
Shimazu and Chosokabe wish they were as easy as Sassykids. Sassanids basically start the game having already won.

>>123879434
Even easier than Shimazu/Chosokabe.

Jews are infantry heavy. The Himyar can dominate the field with just their melee infantry and armored camel warriors.

S-S-Should I buy Atilla? I've been holding off for a sale, and well, it's on sale.

>>123879553
something i used to do in shogun 2 was let a province rebel and then take out that stack to reduce unhappiness in the province. does that still work in attila?

>>123879715
Yeah, best Vanilla TW.

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>>123879715

Yes and remember to play as the Franks for your first campaign

>>123879715
well, at least its better than rome 2

Hopefully tomorrow's faction is more entertaining.

>>123879785
yes.

>>123879878
I'm hoping for Cordoba.

The voice thing sucks but is understandable, victory conditions are terrible though. But really am liking everything else so far, though I suppose people will start bitching about the wrong boots or some stupid shit. If they make a medieval 3 I really hope they keep some of the campaign things like war weariness.

>>123879862
>>123879815
>>123879874

C-Can I be poisoned preceding my glorious conquest of Rome?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh8_KZwfC_g&ab_channel=JosePerez

>>123879667
wat how? i thought attila was all rebellions and then hordes coming down to fuck your shit up

>>123879702
so they aren't uber trade masters?

>>123879947
sweet.

what clan is best for jewing? persians?

>>123880040
Voice thing doesn't bother me, though I feel like they could have gone in and removed certain lines, so there is no mention of Roman units or just "Roma Invicta" shit. Victory conditions are terrible. First one is boring. Second one is boring. Third one is the same as two, but with provinces attached to it. The fact that they said "You can win without expanding at all" is a pretty bad sign.

>>123880164
Depends. ERE gets a bonus to trade (I believe) and also gets 5% of their treasury added to their treasury at the end of their turn. Aksum also have bonuses to trade, and have missions all about having the market cornered on spice so that you can sell it for whatever you want.

>>123880216

I think the victory conditions are fine as it allows for unique playthroughs

You have a bunch of anons here who have campaigns such as Vikings settling in africa or WRE settling entirely in britian and such, never following the victory conditions at all

>>123880216
Agreed. The win without expanding thing would be fine if as Wessex or Mercia you just wish to hold England, but they implemented horribly I think. Then again I can give a fuck about the victory conditions. I don't see much I dislike besides those two things though. I really like they made battles somewhat longer also. The hype is pretty damn high for this expansion

will there be a swine head formation for infantry?

>>123880606
I'm keeping my hype at a moderate level. I didn't enjoy Last Roman, after all. Hopefully the rest of the factions are cool.

>>123879862
>Rome 2
>300+ hours played
>never touched any of the roman factions
>Attila
>300+ hours played
>never touched the huns or any roman factions
>age of Charlemagne
Wanna take a guess wich faction I WONT play ever?

>>123880784
Muslim one?

>>123880784

Slavs?

>>123880784
Carloman___?

>>123880164
>wat how? i thought attila was all rebellions and then hordes coming down to fuck your shit up
Rebellions happen mostly on the Roman Empire, and the only horde that could come down to your territories as Sassanids are the Huns, which is still a really, really tiny possibility since most of the time they just go sack the Roman Empire.

Basically, in a game where every faction goes around the Roman Empire disintegrating and trying to take over the scraps, with the huns serving as a reminder that your time is limited, the Sassanid Empire starts bordering with the Roman Empire on the other side from all the barbarians and on the opposite direction from where the Huns are heading, AND you start with a huge, rich and stable empire with plenty of client states.

>>123881219
>get a mod that adds the Hepthalites for the Sassanids to deal with
>the Hepthalites just fucking ally with them instead

>>123881219
>>123881326
>finally subjugate Persia as ERE
>leave them one poverty province in the arse end of Persia as my client state
>they somehow have like 6-7 full stacks within a few years and aren't bankrupt/facing crippling food shortages despite having no farms
At least they're all shit troops, I might have to go in and sort them out tbqh

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Is Rome 2 good now? Worth getting it + the DLCs on steam?
I got Attila a couple of months ago and it ran like shit here, is Rome any better?

>>123881779
If Attila ran like shit, Rome 2 will run like shit.

Maybe first you need to fix your shit pc?
But yes Rome 2 runs a little better than attila

>>123881779
depends
get DEI

>>123881878
Its weird because i can run Shogun 2 on max without a problem

arena worth playing?

>>123882010
If you can run S2 on max without a problem you should run Attila on high without problems too

Arena waifu stream!

I imagine everyone involved in RTW/M2TW/S2 no longer even works for the shithole that is CA, besides the marketers.

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Continuing my VH Suebi perma migration campaign.

Roman Seperatists have been busy.

I forgot just how many stacks AI can churn out. They managed to smash both the Britains and Roxo Horde before I could even come close to settling my finances. I figured I'd rely on roman greed and wait until they start using their armies to settle provinces before making my move, hopefully taking out a few attrited stacks straight away.

Are they removing some of the artificial difficulty bullshit for the Charlemagne campaign?

>>123882181
I know, but i get constant FPS problems on it no matter how low the settings are

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>25% logistics
wew

About to start a WRE game in Attila. I haven't played this game at all yet. How badly am I going to get my shit pushed in?

The first mission is fucking 'survive'. Scared.jpg

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>>123880164
>which faction is best for jewing
The actual Jews.

>>123883603

burn everything move to africa

>>123874258
There are quite a few nomadic units in the leaked rosters, so Avars most definitely.

>>123876575
That's the same autist that was asking if the DLC Would have M2 style armour advancement.

>>123883371
Sorry, wrong thread.

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3 attrited Roman armies gone and Hispalis, Corduba, Olisipo, Emerita Augusta and Pax Augusta all back to ash.

They've got another 4 full stacks (fuck knows where they were) rushing up from the SE, but hopefully I can take out Bracara and then turn to meet them.

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>>123884594
>Q. What is Aurora?
>A. Aurora is a 4x (eXpand, eXplore, eXternimate, eXploit) game. Written by Steve Walmsley.
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=1194.0

Nah lad I'm on the very right thread.

I fucking hate doing micromanaged surveys, I'm gonna tell you lads

>come, sit, share my fire

>>123886051
But this is a general for total war games, not 4x games. I can understand the mistake desu, but you really shouldn't post it here.

>>123886874
/twg/ is for understanders of strategy
4x games incorporate strategy.
therefore limited dicksuction is alright.

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>>123886874
>mfw I thought I was posting on /civ4xg/
Thanks for the tip lad

Hey guys, wondering if you guys can help me.

Playing on grand campaign and I started with nightmare mode enabled.

I've now disabled it in the options but my battle maps are still nightmare mode?

Any help would be appreciated.