/twg/ - Total War General

first for Karl der Grosse

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>tfw EB2

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>Not best boy edition

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4th for based Alaric, destroyer of cocks

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>mfw Kingdom of Kent.
>mfw Welsh Longbowmen.
>mfw Jinetes.
>mfw Berzerkers.
>mfw Andalusians.
>mfw Theigns.
>mfw Gastalds.

This expansion is going to be based isn't it?

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>>123569562
sixth for worst TW game

>>123569990
IM more hyped for this expansion that I was for Atilla

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>>123569990
I don't know, it's not out yet.

>>123570072
shit taste

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>>123570072
opps wrong pic

>>123570245
play it with kingdoms faggot

>>123570119
enjoy your 7 minute battles

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I SHED THE BLOOD OF THE FRANKISH MEN

>>123570560
>need to pay for DLC to make a shit game playable.

CA everybody.

>>123570751
expansions are not dlc

>>123570751
>Why my hobby costs money

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>>123570736
DIE DIRTY SAXON MAN!

>>123570245
I just jokin calm down people
We all know Med 2 is best TW game right after Attila

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The civil war in the south rages on.

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>>123570736
LAST WARNING BUD

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How long do you guys think it'll be until Charlemagne goes on 50% or more sale? 2016 summer? winter?

Also, Hegemony 3 is 35% on the steam sale right now. Check it out if you want to see what a proper supply system would be like in a wargame. Makes planning campaigns just as important, if not more than, as fighting battles.

>>123569941
Pretty shitty tbph

>>123573336
Summer i think, last roman already 66% off and it came out few months ago
>Hegemony
Too bad game is kinda crappy i played H2 and it was broken as shit

>>123573516
t. saxon fucking shit

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4u /twg/

>>123574418
I'm back to /twg/ after long break

what is this shitty meme?

>>123574418
thumbs up

>>123569562
>Stealing my screenshot for your own personal use

GIVE IT BACK.

>>123574603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY

>>123573695
Alright, I guess I'll skip the early purchase and buy the DLC in summer. I hope someone can make the new unitcards in the style of the ones in Charlemagne for the regular Attila campaign. The normal pictures look so plain...

Also, I know what you mean by Hegemony 2. It felt like a misstep compared to Hegemony 1, which felt less restrictive and less buggy. I think Hegemony 3 is definitely a step back on the right track, but it's still not a game for everyone due to higher levels of micro required. I wish more wargamers or war game developers could take more notice of it. Paradox gsg have good diplomacy features, tw has good battles, and civ has its buildings, but all of them are just so bad when it comes to waging campaigns or operations. It's just move unit from point A to point B without any real strategy or thinking involved.

>>123573760
Fuck you Frank no one likes you.

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>>123569562

Dear /twg/,

I have decided to play total war by purchasing Shogun 2 but found out there are two games.

So tell me, which one has the more different-playing/interesting factions for replayability, base shogun 2 or fall of the samurai?

>>123575273
Rise of the Samurai

>>123575273
They're very different periods in history, and both are not particularly full of diversity. I'd say FotS is a bit more diverse since there's three paths to unifying Japan and two main "lines" of units (traditional and modern, although one is much better than the other)

>>123575273
>different-playing/interesting factions for replayability
Fots. No debate.
Though Shogun 2 may be easier if you're new

>>123575273
You should buy the Gold edition or whatever that comes with both, since they're both great.

Hey guys, how do you think Knights will be classed in Charlemagne?

Lancers or heavy melee cav?

>>123575494
There'll probably be both types.

does charlemagne DLC have moslem in it?

>>123575739
Full of spain

>>123575480
Sorry, I didn't know about that. I should have specified I was getting it on Steam and it doesn't have that Gold edition (I'd definitely get that one now that I know).

Anyone else autistically bothered by the portrayal of the Alans in Attila? They're just bland generic Germanics with one cataphract and one horse archer unit (that are stupidly difficult to get as horde) plus wardogs to differentiate them

>>123575417
Seriously?

>>123576585
I've been complaining about them and the entire Attila roster from fucking day 1, buddy. Don't even get me started on how much they butchered the Sassanids.

>>123576212
I think Gold edition is retail only
You can get on steam Shogun 2 complete or Fall of samurai complete, they sells separate i think

>>123576585

It is pretty dissapointing yeah

Heres a mod that replaces the germanic units if its any help

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=495836175

>>123576858
No play shogun 2 and then Fots and then maybe Rise of samurai

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After a bloody battle, the haradrim capital falls to the Umbar.

GSG has a DLC mega upload for CK2 and all that: Does twg gave one for all the unit packs/factions and the like? I like having the option of variety, even if I'm not going to play all the factions.
Can we organize one?

>>123576585
>They're just bland generic Germanics
So pretty much what they were in history yes ?

>>123576585
>Bland generic Germanics being bland generic Germanics

>>123577002
thanks, that looks interesting
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>>123577295
the Alans weren't even Germanic, they were Sarmatian in origin
Their horsemanship rivalled the other steppe nomads and their presence at the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains was arguably vital to the defeat of the Huns

>>123577379
>goths weren't germanic
>they were steppeniggers in origin

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>>123577379
Oh i'm sorry anon, all barbars looks same to me anyway.

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>>123577092
>boxing in the corner of the map
literally the scummiest tactic, I'm utterly disgusted

>>123577703
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goths
why are you trolling so hard?

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>>123577092
>playing as Rhun
>have monster economy, richest faction in the game
>send stack to Ithilien to help orcbros out
>barracks event, create larger army to send to ithilien, trip takes almost ten turns btw
>doing well in Ithilien, call invasion on East Osgiliath
>second army arrives, I sneak it across the river north of Cair Andros, and march it south for a surprise attack on Minas Tirith
>Gondorians are much better prepared than I expected, but a surprise Haradrim army shows up to save the day
>Take Minas Tirith
>mfw Dwarves invade northern Rhun
I literally cannot stop fucking this game up, I swear it's always something

>>123577894
It was 3000 vs 5000 with level 3 armor elites. And I was counting that the Mordor 20 stack next to me would help me but for some reason the game disagreed.

Desperate times require desperate measures.

>>123577379
All horsefucker societies from late-Classical era onwards are like 10% pure-bred horsefucker and 90% Germanic slaves. A cultural shift occurs, naturally.

>>123578167
>the game disagreed
How do i make that stop by the way? that always seems to happen at the most crucial time

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>play as himyar
>become the sheikh of money and wealth that was always meant to be
>go to eradicate some neighbor that was left alive
>approach with 3 stacks
>stand at the gates of the city, ready to declare war
>sassanids come and take over the city in one turn
>sassanids has 8+ allies
>stand on their turf with 3 full stacks
>its trespassing
>shit
>try to bolt out
>sassanids declare war
>90% of income gone from trade
>they already have 5 stacks coming in from all directions
>mfw

RIP playthrough.

>>123578353
this is why you regularly save

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>>123578353
That's some seriously bad luck

>>123578280
that's blatantly untrue, where did you get that idea from?

>>123578353
You know what time it is
remove sassanids REMOVE SASSANIDS

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>fast forward 2 weeks
>finally play Charlemagne DLC
>start campaign as franks
>click on Charlemange's army
>"FOR DA TRIBE :DD"
>"OUR HORSES LOVE BLUD"
>mfw

>>123578883

3 turns later, they swept down and just fucking murdered me. I had 2 undefended cities left, so time to start over again. I'm not used to the Attila AI at all.

>>123578731
Something I read once. How is that impossible? Where are migrants going to get the numbers to be a significant portion of a society, even if they run it? Horsefuckers also did integrate other groups and tribes to increase their numbers.

>>123578167
Maybe you should take the defeat like a man and make the campaign more interesting as a result. No good campaign has nothing but victories.

>>123579036
That probably won't happen.

>>123579129
I was assuming you were referring to unsettled nomads, my mistake.

>>123579129
also forgot to mention that the Alans were one of such unsettled nomaic tribess and thus were composed pretty much entirely of purebred Sarmatians

>>123579528
Dig, that's my mistake, then. I thought Alans were settled. Kisses all around <3

>>123574603
Christopher Lee(RIP) is a direct descendant of Charlemagne and coincidentally looks remarkably like him. He released a music album entitled Charlemagne including a song called "Bloody Verdict of Verden" which details the real life massacre of pagans by Charlemagne when he was Christianizing the region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden

I SHED THE BLOOD OF THE SAXON MEN. Officially became a twg injoke.

>>123579036
I'm pretty sure western factions will get roman voices while eastern europe, saxons and vikings get "warrioars reddie"

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>>123579036
WE HUNGER FOR BLOOD AND BATTLE

>>123580205
>Christopher Lee(RIP) is a direct descendant of Charlemagne

Charlemagne was so long ago that pretty much everyone in present Europe is related to him.

>>123580730
god, i love these old illustrations that get posted here
do you know what series of books they're from?

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>>123580730

COME
SIT
SHARE MY FIRE

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>>123581126
I put "Saxon warrior" into Google and this one looked the most enthusiastic.

Pic related is Osprey, that's probably what you have seen posted

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Time to slaughter Northmen by the thousands!

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>>123581346
DALE

Is it time shed the blood of Saxon men yet?

>>123579036
God damn how the actual fuck is there still no native voices mod for Attila or Rome 2? It's 2015 right now, come on people.

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>>123581346

>>123581649

excuse me

>>123581649
Are they trying to appeal to the Hitman audience?

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>>123581824

>>123581702

time to shed the blood of northmen desu

TWW Campaign Map gameplay reveal FUCKING WHEN?!

>>123582090
Trailer 2 days ago had footage.

>A full Campaign Gameplay Walkthrough (or should we say ORCthrough?) will be coming next week

>>123582267
> next week
Oh ok, for some reason I thought it was supposed to be released on friday.

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>>123582031

sad performance desu

Just started my first Attila campaign as the Geats.
ANy starter tips? who should I go after?
When can I expect to start training units that aren't filthy peasants?

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>>123581919
I KNOW I WANT YOU

YOU KNOW YOU WANT ME

>>123583172
Starting with conquering your home province might be a good idea

After that you can get into Britain or Europe or sail around the globe and become King of Africa if that's what you fancy

If you click on the winning conditions it will tell you which areas the game would like you to conquer, you don't really need to obey that stuff but it might be a starting point to see what areas you could go after

As far units you should do research and build better buildings

>>123579039
>being bad
You are no sheikh of mine

>>123583189
"Mistah Worlwide"

>>123583172
>>123583539
Also starting tips: best I can come up with that hiring a mercenary Onaga makes sieges a lot easier, but note that they eat up billions of dollars every turn so you should really only keep them as long as you need

Research Onaga building at some point, I think it's the wood upgrade for the artisan somewhere in the military research tree

Keep an eye on sanitation, that shit is important

Good starting factions are Franks or maybe Saxons, if you get dead with Geats

that's the best I can come up with

>>123583539
>>123584123
Thanks Fellas
Yea one of the first things that happens is that my city became unsanitzed. Built a granary because it said it added to sanitation, but that didn't seem to do much. Also the first thing I did was invade Britain, is attacking the Jutes and the Danes really the best thing to do at first?

>>123585107
You can temporarily lose some sanitation due to a bad summer or winter, so it's not a huge deal to worry about.

And raiding britain is a retarded meme. Any army that can go over there and actually stay alive long enough to loot a city will eat way more than what they're worth in upkeep. You're better off conquering the baltics.

When's the first Charlemagne stream?

>>123585107
You don't HAVE to stab your Scandinavian brethren in the back if you don't want to, but getting a hold of the three cities in your area might be helpful
For example it would enable you to build a well, that gives all cities in the province bonus sanitation

>>123586834
>>123586103
I'd really rather not have to fight them, I don't think I can win. I can take those guys east of the Danes to start.
>>123586802
Seconding this

>>123589123
>>123586802
Afaik next week, but TWW campaign gameplay also comes next week.

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>charlemagne is 15e

Holy shit that is generous. At least compared to Paradox who is charging 20e for their new shitty ass dlc that adds like 2 new mechanics.

>>123590369
>He didn't preorder Karl DLC yet

What are you doing? :)

>>123590369
>>123590653
Maybe we'll get a surprise discount like for Last Roman where HumbleBundle sold it for 3e

>>123590653

I don't preorder

>>123590653
I'm putting it off until the factions are revealed.

they gon make me pay 9 quid for charlemagne

anyone want a copy of the geneforge saga on steam

it's 4 bucks

>>123590765
>>123590903
I usually end up waiting till right before. The discount lasts up until the dlc is unlocked.

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Guys third age with DaC or MOS?? which one is better?

>>123593041

MOS nigga

>>123593041
DaC.

Anyone that says MOS is trying to trick you

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>play Saxons
>Turn 2
>Franks declare war
>they pop up with 2 full stacks
>mfw

What's the most hand-holy faction? I need all the help I can get, apparently.

>>123593041

Haven't tried MOS, but DaC is pretty fucking good.

Can you play as Balin and retake Moria in MOS?

>>123593963
sassanids

>>123593963
Sassanids start out having won the game, their campaign is unique in that respect.

Franks are a good starting faction, you can recruit some mercenaries and take Saxon town turn 1 if you want to

is charlemagne dlc a moslem killing simulator?

>>123594412

>implying not saxon killing simulator

>>123594412
We can only hope.

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>>123594412

4000 MEN ALL DEAD IN ONE DAY

THEY WOULD NOT RENOUNCE

THEIR HEATHEN WAYS~!

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>>123578353
REMOVE SASSYKIDS

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>>123596226
>all that fucking cav

>>123593963
Saxons canonically lost their lands on the continent just take Camulodunum its set up to be incredibly intuitive,

>>123594412

It's literally a white-man killing simulator.

You control a sand-nigger puppet as he forcibly converts the remaining proud and white Europeans to his sand-nigger religion.

What's interesting about the Jewish Himyar? I was building up my settlements and realized I should be building those militia encampments instead for unique units, but how are they any better than the other camels and shit I can get with common barracks?

>>123599229
>>>/pol/

>>123599229
juicy

>>123594412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePaS6vyNfR0
yes desu

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>>123593041
MOS

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>>123596739
Terrain really helps out with that

>>123600589
Himyar Jewish melee units are good. Able to stand on their own against Cav units, meaning you don't need to bother with spears. Just use the Himyar-unit infantry and armored camel warriors and win.

Rome 2 or Atila?
I could only buy one all its sales DLC

also the Emperor edition doesnt include any DLCs right?

>>123604665
Emperor editions is basically the base game ever since the augustus update. Atilla is better than Rome 2.

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>>123604665
The answer is obvious.

Just stick to the classics.

Play Shogun 2.

>>123604665
Emperor edition does not include all the DLC, I think it only gives you Augustus campaigns.

Rome 2 isn't terrible, if you like the setting you might enjoy it.

Attila is a much better game, I really enjoy it.
I feel like it's harder to get into and more complicated, that might just be me being bad though

Actually >>123605076 isn't full on memery because Shogun 2 is, if you think you like the setting, a pretty good first Total War.
It does have it's shortcomings, but it's pretty straight forward and has amazing presentation as far as visuals, music and so on go.

How does Attila compare to Rome2?
Any gameplay/mechanics improvements?
Or is it just a reskin of Rome2?
Does the politics part finally have an actual point ?

>>123606074
It is a reskin of rome 2 except with features that should have never been removed from Rome 2.

>>123606074
>Any gameplay/mechanics improvements?

Some, not a lot. Agents are still unbelievably annoying, armies are still limited, you still can't edit the campaign map, yada yada

>>123606074
It's a much better game, very good in fact

>>123606074
politics is much better with family trees and generals that don't die after a few turns. same with agents

battles are a little different. units lose and gain fatigue much quicker, and units are harder to shatter and are more likely to recover from being broken (which is an absolute pain at times).Also unit tiers are a really big thing with many factions starting with down right awful units

campaign feels very different due a number of differences. politically it feels very different due to the existence of a couple of fuck huge empires (with significant advantages in troop quality) with almost every other faction being a 1 province minor. Fertility is a new stat that effects food production, and over the game it gets progressively lower and lower (starting in the north) so migration or changing your economy mid game is important. Plus the Huns act like a mongol/timurid invasion

>>123606074
Atilla has a family tree. The horde mechanic is a pretty big deal for a lot of the factions. Politics is now just percent control you have to balance. It provides empire wide modifiers like more growth, lower taxes, increased happiness, etc.

>>123606438
>except with features that should have never been removed from Rome 2.
examples pls?

>>123606523
>units are harder to shatter and are more likely to recover from being
what i really hate in Rome2 is that melee's are over too fast, casualties are way too big, moral is way too low.

>campaign feels very different due a number of differences
for example?

>changing your economy mid game is important
how do you change economy?

>>123606470
>armies are still limited
what? sorry i played only a little with Rome2, i got fed up with it quickly

>>123607012
family trees and siege escalation to name a few.

>>123607012
>how do you change economy?
Early game you can get a lot of money off farms. When fertility drops you have to switch to farms that don't give you quite so much money. So you have to up your industry/culture money production. If the building is in the same building chain, you can convert it.

>>123607319
so there are two types of farm?
does the fertility drop stop at a point?

>>123607447
three or four types of farms depending on the faction.
>cattle
>wheat
>goat
>special one only celts can build
Fertility starts dropping at year 400, and drops again 20 years after that.

>>123607012
>campaign feels very different due a number of differences
>for example?

starting faction power balance is very different from Rome 2. In Rome 2, with the exception of the sillykids, most factions are small or moderate sized. In Attila 3 factions dominate a huge portion of the map and the rest are really small. there's very few moderate sized factions. ends up changing the way the game plays a lot

climate change

horde migration

Attila events

Razing


campaign ends up feeling very different from Rome 2

>changing your economy mid game is important
>how do you change economy?

you basically swap from high fertility based economy (farms and stuff) to low fertility based economy (pastures), and if you haven't prepared for it you will need to do re balancing of your economy to account for the food differences

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After slaughtering fellow kebabs for good 50 turns Dol Amroth proves to be much harder foe. Thankfully they took my river bait and smashed their 3 generals and swan knights to my pike+ballista+river combo.

>>123607953
>Razing
what's that? sack settlement? destroy it's buildings?

are nomad hordes a serious threat?

>>123581085
Lee was directly related though, and had some sort of proof (line of succession through his mother).

>>123608905
Completely destroying the settlement. It can be resettled, but it takes a serious amount of money and men to do so.

>>123608905
settlement gets completely destroyed and the entire province takes a penalty hit. its an option when you take a settlement, or happens when you decide to abandon it. Razed settlements can be recolonized, but it costs a lot of dosh

>>123608905
forgot that how is unit balance?

i remember rome 1 barbarian invasion, roman units were too high upkeep therefore cost ineffective, this made the game difficult to WRE

>>123609440
Changes throughout the game. Rome has the superior soldiers in the early game, but not a lot of them. WRE's money issue stems from corruption and having to handle a huge amount of immigration. German early game units are horrible. But that changes as the game goes on and the germans start to become really powerful. The Huns are powerful throughout all of their tiers.

What are the best mods for Napoleon? I played LME and didn't like it.

>>123609638
hoes does WRE do in the game?
can you do something against corruption / immigration?
how do WRE troops fare in later game?

rome 1 barbarian invasion's WRE had mediocre troops with high upkeep vs armor piercing strong and cheap barbarian axeman...

i remember old TW games' corruption was if you had a lot of money you get an income penalty + bad traits for generals. how is it in Attila?

>>123610045
WRE will always suffer from constant immigration, though it has reduced public order penalties. WRE can also have governors use edicts to reduce immigration to a province. As for corruption, as you research technology, you can get some that will reduce corruption by a certain amount, though you will always top out at 95% as you increase in power, unless you get a mod to reduce it to, say, 80%.

WRE troops are good in early and late game. Good formations, good armor, but their starting cav is shit. Better for just running down archers instead.

>>123610045
WRE crumbles like a house of cards if it isn't controlled by the player. With all the germans attacking it at once and all the rebel factions popping up they don't stand much of a chance. You can combat immigration by incresing the tax rate of provinces, but it has the issue of decreasing happiness. WRE gets some really good troops late game, they have the best skirmisher unit in the game. The problem is surviving to that point. Corruption depends on a combination of your imperium, general traits, research, politics, and I think some provinces have a higher corruption than others. You lose a percent of you income from that specific province.

>>123610045
WRE has like 80% corruption even at max research levels

the icons for units and buildings look fucking retarded in the new DLC

>>123611703
>>>/gsg/

Any word on Viking factions in Charlegmane? Since theyre actually vikings now

>>123611703
I like the unit icons, but the building icons look like something out of a shitty browser game.

>>123611703
They're better than Rome 2, at least, but you would think CA would learn to not use them at all after how they were hated in Rome 2. Shogun 2's unit and building cards were alright, though.

>>123611703
I like the look of them so far. Seems like the got the Shogun 2 balance right, stylized enough to be interesting but with enough detail that you can tell what it is at a glance

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>123610519
Can you take all the immigrants and say

>Hey, Heinrich, bauen einfriedung!

>>123611703

They look amazing

>>123583189
ya tu sabe

>>123611795
Danes are on the map, or maybe raids are some sort of horde

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tfw you max your province into a citadel but it never gets attacked

>>123617731
Sounds like it served its purpose tbqh

General Total War tip requested, how do you guys really distinguish a proper industry/mercantile/military province? What are your priorities?

domo arigato mister roboto

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Is a Total War game set in modern times possible?

Would it work with the different way war is fought today?

>>123622720
That's retarded.
You're retarded.

Not without massive changes in style that would make attaching the Total War franchise meaningless

The closest to a "manually controlled large-ish scale tactical battle" game possible set in modern times is something like Wargame, and only if the campaign has a much more detailed wargame-like (think Hearts of Iron or Gary Grigsby's War in the East or something like that.

>>123622720

No it wouldn't work

Who gave Charlemagne the right to rule? It wasn't the people.

>>123625243

i did

t. dead jew on a stick

>>123625514
it actually wasn't god?

>>123625735
Maybe it was Charlemagne himself.

>>123618992
It's purpose is to serve as a cool battle map.

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>>123622720

It'd need to be men of war on the battle map. In general it wouldn't work very well.

Pardon the lack of updating. Visuals are almost done. Then it's statting. Gotta figure out why the shield's round pattern is repeating because I made 11 arabesque shield patterns but only one is showing up there. These are Khamis swordsmen replacing one of those weird Jewish named Saneghorim and Khal something (A spearmen is replacing the other, and Baltha warriors or defenders are currently Khamis axemen but I think I'll scale them back to be just armored axemen).

Thought about the Khamis spears being a'la EB2's Sabaean royals with small shield, spear and bow, but I wasn't sure about it.

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>>123626193

Also the matte finish on that helmet is old - I have since fixed it but I haven't replaced the one in the pack yet so that pack one overrides it.

I also need to redo-touch up the terrible old yellow and beigey scale you see there.

Also if anyone has evidence for the himyarite masks I'll re-include them but I have not been able to find an iota of evidence for it. It'll be kept for generals because we aren't changing the Sand-kingdoms generals just yet - the team-member in charge of that is busy and I'm unfamiliar with how to do it and have plenty else to work on.

Missing shields in this case but snazzy and comfy outfits.

I need more Charlemagne information and I need it now!

gimme a hug /twg/

>>123629075
No more hugs, Will.

Hi /twg/. Any roulette's for M2TW? I can't figure out what faction I want to be for my new game.

>>123633330
Oh man. I've never seen a roulette for a TW. What couldyou do besides faction?

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post battles you are proud of

> legendary rome campaign early on with some mods
> outnumbered by about 2000 barbers
> they attack , so I'm on defensive
> the auto resolve says theres no chance at all of winning
> the barbars opt to face me on a foggy day
i still pulled off a victory , to was phyrric, but i still won

>>123633330

drop name faggot

I need warhammer now.

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>>123633558
I hope you hit the execute button anon.

Here's mine. Not much of an interesting story to it, I sent an army to Russia to help maintain relations with Turkey by conquering and giving them territory, and then this happened.

>>123633330
Get rid of your name

>>123626705
He was Black

>>123635624
>>123633562
okay

>>123633961
T W E N T Y
W
E
N
T
Y

Did Attila run better than rome 2? If you had the same computer and could run rome on high, will attila run even better? Smoother? Better optimized?

>>123635798
Good, I don't have a roulette but you should play Venice.

>>123635916
a little better, but don't expect something that is highly optimized.

>>123635916
It is far worse in the optimization department even with the fact that it looks better at a given graphics level it will run worse at equivalent quality.

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>>123635951
I'd be mad but I wasn't the guy with the name

>>123635916
Attila runs like shit for me compared to R2, once troops make contact the game struggles while I could easily maintain 60fps in the same situations in Rome and Shogun 2.

>>123635835
Honestly i don't really care for controlling armies larger than 20.

but I am disappointed that i won't be facing 40 units at a time.

>>123635835
>>123636548
what's this shit about

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>mfw savaran cavalry

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I still can't believe how fucking STUPID the etw map for Europe was

So since so much of the total war stuff is on sale right now on steam, which of the DLC's are worth getting? I have all the game asides from medieval 2. I just bought Rise of the Samurai, is buying the empires of sand dlc for attila worth it?

Also, who else is hype as fuck for Charlemagne?

>>123636668
apparently total war warhammer will have a 20 unit cap like in empire

>>123637429
>France

I'm still mad.

>tfw I find it unreasonably difficult to do things I should be doing

why

>>123635669
I meant about the game. I know that Germanocentric CA has decided to make Charlemagne white, for whatever reason.

>>123638110
I'm a bit apprehensive about the factions. I'm probably going to get memed on but I hope Byzantine Italy is playable.

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>>123633558
I'll always be proud of this fight.

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>>123633558

I only won because the reinforcing enemy army glitched out and didn't enter the fight until I defeated the first one.

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>>123639482

>playing as geats
>finally beat the Burgundians and start taking some territory
>all of my cities are getting unhappier, one is close to rebellion
>have surplus food, none of them are in squalor
the fuck is happening

>>123626434
Hey meloncat what programs do you need for stating or AOR shit? Also how many team members are busy with school and such, enough to not be able to finish by the summer of next year?

Also idk if you saw last thread but my Celts are somewhat visible again. Though some vandals aren't now granted they were on a ship. I reinstalled Attila and used the steam version instead.

>>123640805

you can literally check

>>123640983
This doesnt tell me much, except that I was wrong and that there is 1 squalor

>>123641202

you can literally check the fucking public order modifiers you moron

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>>123641202
>>123641232
forgot pic

>>123641282

what you're doing wrong is not having any public order buildings

like are you retarded

>>123641408
no point in being mad bby

the one and only public order building I am able to build is on it's way

btw any must have Attila mods?

>>123641642

the fucking uninstall wizard you piece of shit

>>123575273
Think that its on g2a.

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>>123641750
holy shit anon, you okay?

>>123641882

fuck you nigger I'm not okay

but you're a dumb piece of shit, have you never played a total war game in your life

>>123641940
calm down first anon, then we'll talk some total war, okay?

My dog pissed in my bed /twg/ when I was ironically in the bathroom after I put her out. Should I stay up and play total war as I wash them or should I wash them sleep on the uncovered matress and wash them? I should note my dryer is broken so I have to hang the things to dry somewhere.

>>123642450
let it dry and drift off

>>123635916

Attila looks better and runs about the same for me. Obviously it won't run as well as Rome 2 on High because it has larger graphics requirements.

>>123641940
Calm down turbosperg.

what the best mod for medieval2/kingdoms?
Im new to this game

my criteria:
>more faction the better
>bigger map the better
>more features
>no fantasy

thanks

>>123643956
Stainless Steel sounds right up your alley.
There's a mini-mod that switches out some factions for others too.

>>123644026
Does it have Ireland? What's the point of playing it if there is no Ireland?

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>>123633558
>Be the Kingdom of Harondor.
>Be an AI.
>Minding my own business.
>Suddenly, some guy called the "Player" invades my shit, sends a massive fuck off army of high ranking units against my capital.
>Shit, my general is fucked.
>mfw he sends every unit he's got into a tiny corridor.
>mfw his Mumakil go berzerk in his own lines.
>mfw I just hammer and anvil any survivors.

Good victory, fuck those Player guys.

>>123644407
You'd want the last kingdom or IB||| if you want a more expansive Ireland

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>HHMUURRRGHH
>TTSSSUUUAARRGGG

What did he mean by this?

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>>123633558

Crossbow guys sent one volley of bolts at the general, and managed to kill him, then it was sort of just cleanup. But still, the odds were against me as this was one of the first times I played Medieval 2.

>>123644669
It's hard to take a shit in daemonsmith armour anon, don't judge.

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>>123633558
Who doesnt love fighting the dirty Turk?

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>>123633558
It's nice to wreck Rome sometimes.

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Where should I settle, /twg/? I can't decide.

>>123646824
Go settle the Sassanid capital.

>>123646858
I asked for somewhere to settle, anon, not to be sent on a suicide mission

>>123646901
Go settle Constantinopolis

>>123646935
actually i think i might just do that
thanks anon

>>123647038
I hope you lose

>>123647063
i hope you choke on a bag filled with my gratitude, homo

>>123647092
Yeah, well, maybe I just will you filthy barbarian

>>123647124
I SHED THE BLOOD OF THE ROMAN MEN

Any way to have your monarch as a General in Empire?

>>123609645

Anyone?

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>CA always tries to go for historical accuracy, with some deviations
>intro to Attila shows the Emperor giving a thumbs down to kill the other gladiator
>thumbs down meant to put your sword into the sand
>sideways thumb meant cut his throat

Fuck you CA.

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What's a good opening couple of turns for the Himyar? I can't seem to get off the ground that well, considering it takes SO long for them to get any kind of army that doesn't suck shit.

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>>123649038
Darthmod is great. Lots of units, better AI. No supply system though.

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>>123649038
LME is by far the best mod for Napoleon. Stop having shit taste.

>>123649771
FUCK DARTH

>>123634075

>Spain
>in Russia

What the fuck.

How do foreign veterans work in FotS? Do I put them into a settlement or into an army?

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>>123651367
ARMY

Is Attila more demanding than Rome II? I'm thinking of buying it during the Steam sale since hearing about Charlemagne gave me a boner, but I'm not sure if it'll run well. Rome II runs great.

I pirated Attila but I can't get it to start.

>>123651487
And what does he do? It says training troops but the manual says he reduces recruitment cost
The manual is just shit in general

>>123651590
He slowly gives experience to all units in the army as well as boost their shooting capabilities if he has the right abilities.

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Has anyone here ever 100% a campaign map?

>>123649771

>gives every unit Skirmisher characteristics

Pretty lazy desu, at least Darth adds fire by rank.

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help guys pls i play TAW with mos but somehow the unique maps like for example cair andros are regular castles from medieval 2? is that intented? and why do regular orcs not flee when there are 30 out of 260 left? am i retarded?

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How are you supposed to use Skirmishers? They don't seem to do any noticable damage on any kind of unit. I tried to flank with them, but they lose morale so fast if the enemy even as much as looks towards them, and skirmishing won't work because they need to be so close to actually make use of their javelin tosses, or whatever it is they throw.

So, yeah. How do you use Skirmishers? I'm primarily talking about Attila here.

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>defend a siege against the Huns
>Have high leveled, big dicked spearmen waiting on the inside of the gate
>beaten and battered by the huns
>figure if i can just wait for them to run out of arrows, they'll have to charge the gates
>wait
>wait
>arrows just keep pouring in
>slowly lose the siege because everyone shatters from deaths
>mfw realizing that i literally did a Crassus
>mfw realizing i did one of the worst military failures in history in repeat

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>>123649163
>CA always tries to go for historical accuracy

What made you think this?

>>123653789
Skirmishes from behind are the shit. Units with shields block a lot of the damage they do front on, so if you can get your skirmishers behind a unit, if they're stuck in combat for example, they will inflict a lot of casualties. But you do have to have some spears or swords to protect them because the AI will always try to get their cav onto your skirmishers.

>>123653971

>unintentionally recreating a historical event
>a fuck up no less

Hilarious.

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How does raiding work? If you do it on a trade route, where an ally has a trade route, will it raid them too, or just the enemy?

>>123653412
>playing mos
>'am i retarded'
Yes.

>>123611703
They look damn good, exactly what I expect from an early medieval DLC

>>123613971
Fuck off tomb shit, Vampire Counts are the superior undead

>>123638158
>20 unit cap
Thank the gods!

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>>123655772

> Flesh bags
> Superior Undead

>>123655429

Just the enemy

>>123622720

Don't listen to all these negative nancies.

I think a Total War in any era is possible, its just as the type and style of warfare changes so does the formula for a Total War game. For the modern era, games like Wargame do it great as does CoH and MoW, but for TW it could work, not sure CA or SEGA would be up for it.

Strategy games aren't exactly hot shit at the minute.

>>123656195
But then you're just taking a strategy game with random gameplay and slapping TW on it

>>123637429

To be fair the European theater in that game kind of took a back seat to India and America/South America.

It would have been neat to get a massive African theater though.

I'd kill for Empire 2, set in the 1600's and running right up until the 1900's, with the option to start at any point you want. With the major wars as big events assuming the involved factions aren't dead.

All that tech development, that Empire building potential, world domination... too good.

>>123656272

The Total War formula hasn't changed since its first title. Even with Empire/Napoleon it still had a very similar combat and battle style just with gunpowder weapons and obviously more ranged engagements, I don't see why the TW couldn't be evolved to have different styles and game play.

>>123656487
Because line based combat and big routs are what makes a game Total War
You can't just make a squad-based game and call it TW
Not to mention that there's really no pitched battles in the modern day, so it would have to be real time battles on the strategy map

What's the use of raiding when I can get more money just camping up? The difference in happiness hit between both stances for an enemy city is negligible too

>>123656736

Raiding is good early on when you lack food

But later on, if your general and faction have traits that give you a bonus to raiding, you get pretty good dosh

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>>123656736
>>123657120

The province you're raiding has to be rich if you want to rack in the money

If you're the vandals, you get crazy amounts of dosh from raiding roman sea trade routes

>tfw I can't play Attila until Fall of the Eagles is done

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Can I unite factions together in Attila? For example create a Celtic confederation or whatever?

>>123657376
>The province you're raiding has to be rich if you want to rack in the money

I thought the amount of money you got from raiding was based on the upkeep of the army you are raiding with?

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>campaign trailer
>greenskins talk about invading other factions
>show chaos pre-order bullshit
>don't even acknowledge the existence of vampires
triggered

What is this Polish mod

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?693658-Potop-total-war

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>What colour you want your uniform sir?

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>picts has night battles from the beginning without investing into cunning
>they can guerilla deploy
>they have absolutely amazing ambushers, and frontliners
>mfw facing a battle 3:1 and winning because Pict deployment kills every strategy the AI could ever hope to achieve and just annihilates everything

Based Picts.

>>123660334

I think its from the provinces itself, try raiding a desolated province, you'll barely get any food and income

Also raiding land trade routes works really well, but you gotta make sure your allies arent part of the trade route you're raiding

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>>123660503

>>123660503
What faction are you playing anon, I don't recognize it.

>>123613971
DLC faction :)

Remember when we have /twg/ movies recommendation list
I wonder does someone still have it?

>looking through CA's official youtube channel
>they are getting BTFO in the comments section in every video
>everyone says they won't preorder anything

what happened? have the fanboys finally woke after the Rome2 blunder?

>>123574649
make me
It was my wallpaper for a long time, thank you

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>>123660812
>Asians

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>>123661348
>announce expansion pack
>expands map west
>Brettonia, Wood, Dark and High Elves
>PRE ORDER FOR LUSTRIA DLC!
>PLAY AS LIZARDMEN!
>BUY SEASON PASS NOW LIKE A GOOD GOY AND GET DLC FOR FREE WHEN IT'S DONE™!
>ONLY 119.99$!

>>123661814
What mod is the bottom screenshot from?

>>123661648
>woke
that would imply that they see things clearly now, which is bullshit. So many of them bitch (justifiably so) about Rome2 but then comment about how Med2 was flawless and some even mention Empire as if it was the best TW game.
Others are just broke ass third-worlders that complain about DLC, and even though Rome2 and S2 DLC was shit, they only mention R2 and never bother to mention how the DLC quality in Attila is significantly higher, with the only bad DLC being the Vikings, and shit like EoS and AoC setting the standards really fucking high.

>>123661814
You know these are pretty neat. Someone should make more of these if possible.

>>123662091
The great War mod

>>123662089
This makes me wonder how the Expacs and the DLC will be divided. Though I'm pretty sure things like Kislev and Brettonia are going to be the FLC they've mentioned, because I doubt they would make something much more new asset intensive, like the Skaven, free.

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>>123661774
you're welcome.

here is a further back shot.

>>123662269
>The great War mod

Is it in a playable state? How good is it?

>>123662361
>yfw Nippon is just refurbished Shogun 2 assets

>>123662607
Somewhat playable, am waiting for an update

>>123661081

Saga. I'm currently trying to conquer the three islands, two near Nagasaki and the third near Satsuma (who are currently conquering everything in sight) and building a good navy with a few good armies to launch naval invasions near the capital Kyoto and Shogunate area Edo.

So far populace happiness is fucking me up and one of the island shitters just bombed my only trade port so no money.

My army consists of 80% Spear Levy, their cheap and decent enough in melee to overrun most ranged units. Gonna upgrade soon.

>>123657120
>>123657376
oh thanks, been fucking around persia with the huns so thats probably why

>>123662603
w-what kind of pc config do you need to run that many units smoothly?

>>123662607

It's playable, some campaign bugs here and there.

>>123663271
>>123662725
Cool thanks. I'm curious how WW1 works in a total war game

>>123663494

Gameplay wise don't go in expecting much. Most battles are artillery duels, general sniping and masses of super accurate, high rate of fire infantry slaughtering one another.

I'm curious to see how it is in multiplayer.

>>123663732

Yeah, having the general as a deployable unit seems a bit silly to me, given how generals by then weren't on the front lines (on account of shit like this happening).

Umbar was cool, but their boring roster makes them hard to play after destroying harad and dol amroth. What's next?
Isengard/Kazad Dum/Mordor

SIGNA FERTE

>>123651675
Only once - Napoleon Total War as Prussia.

It's a massive waste of time.


What took me longest to take was Lisbon, because for some reason Portugal (who had been neutral all game) had a MASSIVE army defending it and I had to pull stacks from everywhere to fight them.

>>123661814
Remember when that redditor also posted this on reddit

Any must have mods for Attila ?

>>123651590
he does both.

In a settlement he'll lower troop cost.
While in a settlement or in an army he'll train troops.

You can stack foreign veterans so if you have a really good troop training province you can put 3 there, pump out cheap elite troops and then have then train to a good level there over a couple turns.

I don't know what the fuck my problem was when I returned it, but I bought it again and Attila is fucking great
might even be the best desu

>>123671975
You might be retarded, senpai

>>123670897
bump

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Alright, /twg/, with the current discount I have two options

1. Buy all the DLC for Rome 2 (Already own Rome 2)
2. Buy Attila and all it's DLC
3. Kill myself because both games suck

So what's it gonna be? My PC is toaster material which lets me run Rome 2 in medium graphics just fine.