/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

Dark Souls 2 is best souls

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Why didn't Artorius just go kill Manus like the chosen undead did?

>>123823880
that's a not very good weapon... so you should parry or backstab.

>>123824997
worst*

>>123825110

It has something to do with abyss and catacombs.

>>123824879

>no gwyndolin in the pic

Anyone else feel like DS2 has better replay value than 1? I've sunk like 300 hours into it, still finding secrets and trying new weps out, just starting to get into more serious pvp.
DS1, I felt like I'd more or less got the game down to where it was boring after 3 runs, nothing left to do but stack the difficulty up beyond NG3+

>>123825649
It really does have more content, plus the active PvP scene helps too.

>>123825649
I have 2.4k hours in DaS1 on steam (and like maybe 200-300 on consoles) and 600 hours in das2. I can't even force myself to replay through 2, don't know why, it just didn't resonate with me. Yet I still play das1 to this day, in fact just got done playing a little while ago. I haven't been able to play 2 since february.

>>123825409
gwyndolin isn't a girl

>>123825649
This place again...?

>>123825649
I feel like I have more choices in the types of runs I want to do in SotFS than in DaS1. That's what keeps me replaying the game.

>>123825649
DaS2 has more content but DaS1 is more open-ended from the beginning and isn't a shitty game

I love some of the new weapons in DaS2 and I love powerstancing, but ignoring those I'd never play it ever again

Why am I even playing this for the PvP? It suddenly all feels very fucking stupid.

I'm gonna read manga or something

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So the DLC makes BB the best souls game.

>>123826657
It sure as hell affected the game more dramatically than the crowns horseshit or artorias ever did.

I like it a bit more than DS1 now desu.

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What does /dsg/ do to pass the time while waiting to invade?

>>123825649
DaS1 is pretty much a bottleneck until Lordvessel, and after that there are 4 different ways to play + DLC.
DaS2 got 4 ways straight from the beginning (while the second part of the game is more straightforward) and 3 very different DLCs.
DaS2 simply got for freedom and more content, even tho it doesn't quite reach DaS1 level of quality.
So yeah, I too find the second game to be more enjoyable to replay

>>123825649
no i played around 4 times(gave up on each one at different points because i was bored) and only finished once. i have 100 hours in ds2 and 511 in ds1. but i don't really like playing after anor londo anymore...

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>>123828382
why would you ruin your game like that

>>123828508
Ornstein and smough is the last fun boss in the game
Oh and Gwyn too ofc

>>123829102
Ruined how?

>>123828382
i got killed by a torch hollow after waiting 40 minutes to be invaded(he instakilled me with smough armor) i recorded but i dont like to post yt videos in 4chan desu

>>123829158
yea after that everything got rushed
did you know that the asylum was the last area? it was made after lost izalith.

>>123829176
grass hd mod. this guy posted the same gif when i posted a ss.

>>123826657
>>123828001

Don't have blood born. What does the dlc do?

So how do you deal with multi-hit attacks in pvp, like a powerstance spin move or anything with a twinblade? you cant roll unless you manage to get outside of the range(which is impossible with a spear spin) and blocking drains 100% stamina plus tons of elemental shave damage

>>123829939
roll past them

>>123829646
doubles the weapon count, adds 2 transformations that play very differently, and makes a lot of limited builds a lot more fun with more variety. Also largely improved the connectivity and added a new covenant (that was free).

Aside from that it's the usual souls dlc thing with pretty good level design except the reskin turned out to not be shit this time around. Don't have too many complaints with people toting it around as an expansion because that's pretty much what it is.

>>123830048
with twinblades you can if you aim it right but the range on a spearspin is like, 3x your roll distance

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>>123829939
multihit = parry
no questions asked, it's guaranteed to parry even if you get hit

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>respawning enemies near common paths and blacksmiths

>>123831959
>that bonfire in ds2 with 3 crossbow guys
best level design

>>123831959
Do you need a fucking Safe Space where enemies can't get you?

>>123830086
Just because the DLC fixes the problem with low amount of weapons doesn't make it an "expansion" that just means the base game was half finished. Artorias of the abyss adds almost the same amount of bosses (the same exact amount if you count 2 sanctuary guardians being another boss), more weapons, more spells, better level design (the first part of the dlc was good, but hamlet and research halls were fucking ass, halls was basically dukes archives 2.0), the same amount of npcs, and more memorable bosses. The only bosses that were really "memorable" in the BB dlc was ludwig and orphan since they played a big role in the story, the rest were meh except maria was kinda fun.

I admit the BB dlc did more work on the story and polished things up quite nicely, and had more armor sets, but it's still retarded calling it an "expansion". Especially since FROMsofts first DLC ever was almost on par with it.

>>123831959
>demon right at the edge of the anor londo blacksmith's door

>>123832306
>better level design
AotA is a corridor all the way through.

>>123832306
>>I admit the BB dlc did more work on the story and polished things up quite nicely
That was really easy to do, the game was unfinished when released because sony.

>>123832306
>Just because the DLC fixes the problem with low amount of weapons doesn't make it an "expansion" that just means the base game was half finished.
10/10 logic. You should run for mayor.

>>123832129
>>123832071
>>123832421

It's just so annoying. And really tiring if you kill them AGAIN for the 500th time.

If I had it my way I'd mark those on well travered paths, in the Church, and other areas non-respawning.

>fuck off I just want to go from point a to b, I've already killed you a thousand times already. Stay dead.

>>123832306
Oh hey, it's this post again. I'm already tired of this opinion and it's only been around for like 2 days.

>>123832601
>game has embarrassingly low amount of items and shit compared to all their previous games
>somehow this isn't half finished

Fucking delusional retard

>>123832734
>opinion

How is anything I said an opinion? I just listed amounts of items and bosses. The only part that would be "opinion" is better level design, but face it, dukes archives 2.0, linear river with branches that lead to 1 useless blood item and a deadend, fishman cove, and clock tower were all just as linear and boring. Just because a level has 1-2 branches that go fucking nowhere doesn't mean it isn't linear.

>>123832872
Shit anon, could you be any madder?

>>123833093
Bloodborne is still a really touchy subject around here, especially right after new content was released for it while /dsg/ is essentially in the same position /bbg/ was only a couple of weeks ago.

It's probably best not to talk about it here at all.

>>123833093
How's that buyers remorse anon? Are you so scared of admitting that you payed 460 (possibly 560) dollars for an unfinished game that only got finished with the dlc? Is this why you feel the need to shill the game and spout "u mad bruh!" instead of giving an actual response?

See the difference between Dark 1 dlc and BB dlc is, in Dark 1 you don't NEED the dlc for the game to be good. You don't need the dlc for the story to be finished. The dlc is just to satiate our hunger for deep lore. In BB the dlc literally just hands you the rest of the story that it forgot to put in the game. Without the dlc the game would be shit with like 10 weapons and over half of them being completely useless.

Sorry you bought an unfinished game anon, really truly sorry. My condolences.

"Ok team, arena is almost done, anything left to add?"
"What about a matchmaking system?"
"Are you joking? Only the strongest players, with SL250+, deserve to have cracked orbs. That's the most active pvp level anyway."
"Brilliant, sir!"

>>123833454
>The dlc is just to satiate our hunger for deep lore.
>deep lore
Jesus christ.

>>123833608
Anon, I...

Any tips for biggie smalls?

Smalls keeps hitting me from across the room.

>>123833280
>tfw /dsg/ is still a shitposting hive even when it's in comfy mode

But it could always be worse. It could be post-DS2 all over again.

>>123833831
Always assume he is about to rush attack you. Only strike back when you are sure you are safe. Take it slow

>>123833783
>Anon, I...
I what? Don't tell me you believe the lore of any Souls game is deep, right? They're nice little stories, but they're exactly what I'd expect a DM to shit out for a DnD campaign world (only the story of this campaign is confined to a zone of a certain size inside the world, so you need NPCs and objects from all around to show you what's going on outside and inside). They're certainly not ''deep'' enough to warrant having guys being paid to tell your their own interpretations of what's going on.

>>123833536
arena has sl matchmaking tho

>>123830468
does that poof just visual when rolling, or?

>>123834759
The arena has no matchmaking at all tho
You could literally be a sl10 agape ring twink and still get matched with an 838 havelhexer

>>123833936

Should I summon Solaire? Or is that just admitting I suck?

Because I also would have to go back somewhere to grind for humanity since I ran out.

>>123834909
Just visual

>>123834924
nope they made several tiers a while ago.

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>>123834564
>being this new

Anon, I...

>>123835020
then explain how I got killed in one L1 swing by someone weilding a handaxe, when I have 1600 hp plus medium armor

>>123834938
Yeah he's pretty useful, no shame in jolly co-operation

>>123835020
the tiers are only for +-5 your level. I join arena from time to time on my lvl 50 char and I get mostly 838 shitters

>>123835262
>no shame in jolly co-operation

Well, there is actually. It makes it easier. Even if the NPC summons don't do much damage, they distract the boss. For two enemy boss fights, it makes it a lot easier.

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of these, but if memory recalls, these are the vague back stories for the player characters...

>Slayer of Demons: Random person who came to Boletaria to try and be a hero.
>Chosen Undead: Someone sent to the asylum to rot and managed to make their way to Lordran after they escape.
>Bearer of the Curse: Undead who came to Drangelic to see if rumors of a cure were true.
>Good Hunter: Someone who came to Yharnam for blood treatments to cure their own werewolfism.

So, what will be the vague backstory for out DSIII hero?

>>123835537
Fine, then play through the game at SL1 with only your fists. Anything else would make it easier.

back to forest PvP after a year-long break from DS1

Do people still rage about the dark magics or has it simmered down?

>>123835537
No one is watching you play, there is no shame in anything.

Can someone help me make a Moonlight greatsword build for DS1?

>invade another player
>spawn in an area I didn't even know you could get to
living and learning!

>>123836116
16 strength
10 dex
40 int
40 endurance
40 vit
16 att

>>123835660
>>Slayer of Demons: Random person who came to Boletaria to try and be a hero.

Either they went to Boletaria to be a hero and save the kingdom, or they went there to get souls and gain power for themselves. Or a mixture of both.

Their motivations are intentionally left vague as that is up to the player to decide.

>>123836116
Make magic fags cry.

http://mmdks.com/7sqa

>>123835660
ds2 is more like a guy got lost in the woods and fell into a giant edgy spirits hole that is never mentioned again

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>>123836739
>0 poise
>10 dex WoG
>40 int, no sorceries
C U C K: The build

>>123836908
>caring about poise when you can fast roll
>implying dead angle wogs even need dex
>magic is for faggots and keks

>start NG+ on scholar
>mimic in the chest right in majula
FUCK

>lategame boss dies in 3 hits at SL1 with a +0 dagger
pfft

>>123835849
no, the people still playing DS1 have learned to roll bs it a long time ago

>>123836303
Are you behind the wall?

>>123837016
>caring about poise when you can fast roll
what is armor of thorns
>>123836908
WoG casting speed is not affected by dex

/dsg/ my 360 controller has finally died after many faithful years. Is the XB1 controller a decent replacement or should I just get another wired 360 controller?

>>123837423
>WoG casting speed is not affected by dex
what the fuck
it's not?
I thought every direct "you cast this to directly damage stuff" spell was affected by it

>>123837768
Not worth it
Stick with the 360

t. An Xbone user

>>123837965
Thank you anon

>>123837846
you're right, WoG is the only exception

Balder side sword

or

Bandit's knife?

I love knives btw.

>>123838601
>I love knives
>not loving polearms
Shit taste confirmed. Reported, saged, orgasmed, called the cyberpolice to backtrack you, called Bubba to rape you in jail.

>>123838820

Take too much stamina, and are too slow, too heavy.

>>123839127
Yeah, you have to anticipate with them.

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So after pirating DS2 and enjoying the game so far, I'm considering a purchase but I need to know, the regular version of DS2 or scholar of the first sin?
I have a new comp to build soon so I just want to know which is one is worth it for PvP shennigans

I am 42 SL, can anyone help me with O&S real quick?

>>123839456
If it's just for PvP, you better play another game.

>>123839651
Well I don't mean SERIOUS PvP
I meant just generally dumb shit
Souls PvP is always good for a laugh

>>123839708
If it's just for PvP, you better play another game.

Is there ANY light armor that looks cool? Your options that I've seen so far:

>robes
>dork-wear
>dirty messy bandit wear

Is there just some nice clean vest and helmet I can wear?

If I opt out of dsptde beta will I lose my achievements because last time i did it I lost all of them

>>123839456
SoTFS

how soon are you abandoning 4chan before DaS 3 release? I'm leaving as soon as leaked gameplay starts spilling. Not coming back until my first playthrough is over

>>123840539
I'll leave as soon as retards start deciding the game will suck because the beta isn't perfect. I have no patience for retards trying to find excuses to hate on yet another good game.

>>123839583
bump

>>123839583
You can't coop if you killed Solaire. It kicks you out of coop until you amend for it.

>>123841078
I didn't kill him tho, he just died to the guards outside the boss

>>123841372
Kill them before you summon him. the fight is a cakewalk with solaire anyway

>>123841372
Clear the guards before you summon him or that will keep happening

>>123841689
>>123841682
I think I am just too baked for this today. maybe tomorrow... thanks

>>123841372
>he let the sunbro die
Let's excommuniate that guy.

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How do I get this and what is it? I found another tree in ash lake I could go in to but I can't figure out how to get to this item. Do you get there from the first tree?

>>123842145

You drop from above and it's some worthless shit. I can't remember exactly what, a chunk or soul.

>>123842145
it's a miracle, Great Magic Barrier
there's a branch winding up the tree
somewhere below that branch is a ledge you can drop down to

>>123842349
>souls
>worthless
So how does it feel to fight Gwyn with your starting gear at SL 6?

oh yeah this guy is right >>123842452
I confused it with the other corpse on a mushroom that's earlier in the zone

>>123842573

well I beat him at SL1 but obviously not with unupgraded gear

>>123842349
>>123842452
Oh okay I won't bother then.
>>123842573
You get infinite souls the second you get a boss soul, dude. Same with humanity.

>>123842718
>cheating

>>123842718
>cheating
So this is why retards prefer Dark Souls, because you can be a lazy piece of shit in it, no skills involved.

I just got SotFS. I've beat vanilla twice once with a hexer and a pyro.knight. What's kind of biuld should I play? I'm not a fan of magic

>>123843146
Powerstance daggers. remember to get stone ring

>>123842857
Its not cheating if its in the game and not patched out. Also, why the fuck would I spend time grinding when this bug exists?
>>123843065
grinding =/= skill

Enjoy wasting your time guys.

>>123842349
GMB isn't exactly worthless

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>>123843215
>Its not cheating if its in the game and not patched out

>>123843196
Is this a joke? I think dual wielding looks dumb, in everything, but the twinblades seem interesting

>>123843241

yeah congratz on the input retard, read the fucking replies before saying the same shit again

>>123843327
It's actually really fun. Go for a light build with lots of agility and short weapons, like an old school thief or rogue, make something different.

>>123843287
Its not. Are you going to bitch at for sequence breaking too?

>>123843504
One is a glitch, the other isn't.

>>123843398
Recommended starting class for that then?

>>123843504
>retard coming up with excuses to explain why he's shit

>>123843504
sequence breaking is intentional design
glitching free souls isn't

>>123843897
Don't waste your breath with the scrub.

>>123843560
No, they both are.
>>123843630
I don't need to because having infinite souls/humanity has no bearing on how good someone is at this game. All it does for me is make the game less grindy.
>>123843897
>sequence breaking is intentional design
What? So the devs intended for me to use the lower undead burg shortcut? That's news to me.

>>123844190
sequence breaking with master key was clearly intended by the devs as the areas they open are way harder than starter areas, they are made for veteran players.

>>123844757
Don't waste your breath with the scrub.
He'll just play dumb and pretend his abuse of a glitch is okay.

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>>123844148
Too flustered to have a harmless debate? I would like to hear a rebuttal that's something other just and insult.

Only if you capable of articulating one, of course.
>>123844757
I wasn't talking about that, I meant stuff like jumping down into lower undead burg before you're suppose to and unlocking the shortcut.

>>123844992
>I wasn't talking about that, I meant stuff like jumping down into lower undead burg before you're suppose to and unlocking the shortcut.
That wasn't intended, you're correct.

Give me a fun build I can get set up early on and take late game please

>>123844883
>his abuse of a glitch is okay.
Does it affect you in anyway?

>>123845193
>the point
>.
>.
>.
>your head

>>123845307
Enlighten me anon! Show me the error of my ways! Please explain to me how grinding is greater than not grinding, I wanna hear it.

>>123845475
>please explain me why cheating is bad because I am a fucking retard who can't figure it out
Gee I wonder, that would be a waste of time.

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She was the sun
Shining upon
The tomb of your hopes and dreams so frail

He was the moon
Painting you
With it's glow so vulnerable and pale

She was the wind, carrying in
All the troubles and fears you've for years tried to forget
He was the fire, restless and wild
And you were like a moth to that flame

>>123845603
Silly anon, My argument is that it isn't cheating. And you have yet to give me a rebuttal with any substance at all. You haven't even brought up the most obvious one you could make.

Please stop changing the subject and give me a good reason not to use this bug other than variations of "its wrong".

>>123846207
because the developers did not intend it.

>>123846424
Makes fucking sense if you consider why this door was there in the first place.

>>123846207
>implying obvious shitposters deserve real arguments
Pathetic as usual.

Okay lads I've played pretty much every flavor of build in this game except a shitty huge STR weapon. So recommend me that will change my opinion of it. It worked for sorc builds.

My character slots are all filled but I've never seen NG+++ and never leveled past 125

>>123846396
That's still a variations on"its wrong".
>>123846424
I remember doing that in one of my playthroughs too, but I don't remember why. I remember spawning on the wrong side of the door for some reason.
>>123846682
>claims I'm a shitposter
>claims I'm scums
>claims its wrong
>can't give a good reason why
You have a very closed mind, anon. And a very dull wit.

>>123846846
I just unlocked NG+ and I'm level 140.

>>123846886
Oh yeah, you also can't prove I'm a shitposter until you dismantle my first argument either.

Just 4 shot each ruin sentinel on NG+ with a brightbug/dark pine resin and a craftsmans hammer. This this is killa

I feel like making a filthy paladin in SotFS while doing a run without any estus flask. What kind of weapon would be great for that?

>>123847093
A mace, of course. Spiked for torturing heretics (and hating yourself because its no longer blunt damage)

could also go some other form of hammer or great mace, velstadts if you want to be le edgy corrupt paladingdong.

some friends and I are doing some PvP at 2mil soul memory in DaS2. What build should I go for?

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>tfw you load up old characters and don't understand what the fuck you were thinking

>>123847465
I still don't.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/471997

>>123836773
>giant edgy spirits hole

sounds hot

>>123847737
>nothing in offhand
>still waste 16 levels on strength to one-hand it
i'm going to vomit
>a level in dex that isn't even needed for the weapon req
i'm going to vomit

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>>123847737

>70 vit
>14 end

>>123847972

to be honest 10 DEX is needed to use a decent weapon (sword) till you level up and reach the weapon you need

>>123847972
The point of the build is to use a stone greatsword R2 and then switch to king axe and use its R2. The reason for the 50 str is so that fucking menu telling me to twohand doesn't pop up.
>>123835660
From what we gleaned in the stresstest it seemed to imply there are lots of lands like lordran with kings just like Gywn. And all of those kings are gathering at where ever ds3 takes place for some unknown reason.
>>123836773
I agree with this anon. I hope ds2 has no bearing on the story except for it lending to the theory that there are lots of places like lordran.

>>123848449
that's the worst build idea i've ever seen

>>123848229
I want to be naked, but I don't wanna die.
>>123848395
I need that one dex for stone gs

>>123848449
You have really shitty idea. Shut up already.

>>123848449
>From what we gleaned in the stresstest it seemed to imply there are lots of lands like lordran with kings just like Gywn. And all of those kings are gathering at where ever ds3 takes place for some unknown reason.

Yeah, aka multiple lords of cinder. And you will be some sort of kingslayer.

>>123848630
>source : my ass

>>123848449
>From what we gleaned in the stresstest it seemed to imply there are lots of lands like lordran with kings just like Gywn. And all of those kings are gathering at where ever ds3 takes place for some unknown reason.
I forgot to add that your character is one of those kings probably.
>>123848540
>>123848554
I have yet to try it.

>>123848714
>your character will be the one you used in Dark Souls
>you will fight your Dark Souls 2 character to usurp his throne of do want

>>123848708
Yeah? This is all speculation, idiot.
>>123848780
YES! That would be fucking awesome! It would be like a huge "Yeah, I know ds2 sucked" from Miyazaki.

>>123848449
>xDDD DS2 is so bad le lol
Fuck off with your meme.

Whenever I invade, the loading screen takes about 5 minutes and when I do finally load into the other world I immediately get disconnected automatically. Why the fuck does this keep happening?

>>123849049
it is

>>123849235
Fuck off with your meme.

>>123849049
No matter what points you have, SM was was a horrible idea and you know it. Also no atmosphere, lazy level design, no real attempt at a story, MAKING YOU BUY THE GAME FUCKING TWICE, etc, etc.

>>123849282
>xDDD DS2 is so bad because i say so
Fuck off with your meme.

>>123849281
>can only think in memes
What has /b/ done to you?

>>123849369
>>123849281
>>123849049
>game is bad
>UR ONLY MEMEING GO AWAY MEME MEME MEME!!
you've been lost to the memes

You've only got one place left to go.
>>>/reddit/

>>123849595
>HOW DARE YOU DISAGREE WITH ME AND NOT SHIT ON A GAME BECAUSE I DO IT
>FUCK OFF
Yeah, nah.

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You get to pick one thing from any of the other Form Soft game to put in ds3. What do you pick?
>>123849595
Just report him.

>>123849723
Armored Cores

>>123849723
The mechs from Chromehounds

>>123849723
>Form
Learn to write, it's From you inbred dumbass.

>>123850090
Jesus I would who could be behind this shit post...

>>123849626
>>123849369
>>123849281
>>123849049

>>123850728
>everyone I don't like is the same guy
Yawn.

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>>123850728
Did you really just make a bunch of blatant shitposts and then try to pin them on me because you're analpained about earlier? Jesus Christ man.

>>123851027
Just so you know, that guy isn't me. I only posted >>123849369.

This place is awful.

>>123851257
Blame the das2haters.

>weight: 5.0

There is no way this thing weighs 5 whatever units this game uses.

>>123851091
>>123851027
>>123850946
>all these posts
>exactly 1 minute after each other
Hahaha yeah, you and your MPD is really cool ;))

>>123851375
Still butthurt about earlier, I see.

>>123851318
->IT'S HEAVIER AND BIGGER SO IT DOES MORE DAAAAMAGE
Yeah its stupid but just roll with it

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>>123851318
>>123851498

These Katanas are not that big.

How much do real ones weigh?

And what unit does the game use, like KG?

>>123851317
Them, and the Congregates of the Church of Blood Menstruation who can't keep to their own board, and feel the need to tell us all of the good word.

>>123851736
And the 4retardfag. And all the "git gud" spammers. And the ">playing DS2" retards.

>>123851817
So basically the whole board then?

>>123851851
Everyone but me.

>>123851646
Real life zweihander-style greatswords don't weigh more than about 8 pounds, but the zwei in DaS1 weighs 10 units. This is an almost realistic example compared to smaller swords like katanas which weigh 4-6 pounds at the most.
tl;dr it's for gameplay balance purposes

>>123851317
I am a ds2 hater, its shit and you know it.

>>123851646
>oh my gow guys, a game is unrealistic!!!
No shit Sherlock.

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>black bow of Pharis + Hawk Ring

I hope the cannon makes it into ds3

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>>123852298

>long bow and short bow has the same range

>>123852298
I wish you could use greatbows for stuff other than sniping. Or at least give me a consistent sniping spot.

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>>123852298
>>123852698
>composite bow at melee range

Speaking of bows and Legolas, can't wait to see them new short bows in DS3. They sound fun.

>>123853382
>inb4 poison arrows inflict full buildup on headshot

>>123853471
That would be nice. I miss my batfog mage.

Is there a mod to turn off the status infection bar off? It's ugly and doesn't tell me anything I didn't already know.

>>123853821
Turn HUD off.

I wish Dark Magic would go back to being split Int/Phys damage again. They just needed different kinds of viable phys scaling catalysts.

I want to be a Str/Int shaman again

>>123854175
>They just needed different kinds of viable phys scaling catalysts.
the existing ones were fine i think
Banishment and Demon Catalysts were fine alternatives if you didn't want to use Manus Catalyst
it made for a nice tradeoff where the strength catalyst was the strongest per hit but the the dex/quality catalysts had more casts

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Black Iron Takus.

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>>123854772
Black Iron Tarkus!

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>>123854991
TARKUUUUUUUUS!

>>123853932

Does that turn everything off, or just what I want?

>>123855628

everything

>>123855628
Everything. That's the closest tinhg to what you want.

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Do you think they'll make a not-shit PC version of DS3?

>>123856586
Like DS1?
Hahahahaha, keep hoping, reject.

>can't prevent half the cast from going hollow
>can inadvertantly send a guy on a quest which gets him hollow
>saving another guy requires knowing beforehand how to save him and leveling up a specific covenant
>saving waifu requires visiting her after resque, then murdering someone else

Why can't these NPCs just stay put in Firelink and stay safe? I just want everyone to be happy ;_;

>>123857495
>I just want everyone to be happy
>Dark Souls

>>123857495
>stop dying!
>Dark Souls

>>123857495
>I just want everyone to be happy
You shouldn't play Edgy Simulator 2000 then.

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Stupid question, but I already killed Nashandra in SotFS, is there any way to go back?

Didn't know the game would end there, and I had ton of shit left to do (like all the DLCs). Playing on PC btw.

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So, playing through SotFS, just got the king's ring yesterday. And really, I'm actually enjoying the game now. Forest of Giants was ridiculously frustrating, but after that and Wharf the game really picks up.

It's still cheap at times, some hitboxes are broken, world transitions make no sense, NPCs are mostly boring, progression is impossible to follow, some new movesets and animations are shitty, bosses are pure trash (I think the only boss I actually enjoyed so far was Demon of Song, the whole area is quite great), soundtrack is very weak compared to DeS/DS, areas at times lack inspiration and originality. But it's actually fun now.
And really digging new phantom NPC AI, and just how many NPCs are there now, both phantoms and invaders.

Also, what the fuck happened to the lore of the game? It's like they took DS and merged it with generic fantasy. What the fuck are dwarves, pirates and varangians doing in DS world?

>>123857674
You don't end the game until you go to a bonfire and starts the journey 2 to Drangleic.

>>123857797
Buddy it's always been generic fantasy. Only elves are missing, although the "giant" godrace kinda serves that purpose.

Also how the fuck was Forest of Giants frustrating to you when areas such as Black Gulch and Shrine of Amana exist?

>>123858728
>Buddy it's always been generic fantasy.
Have you played DS1? Sure, it's not too over the top, but neither it is generic. Many NPCs were from another land, but they never had obvious scottish accets, wore pirate outfits that don't even fit in the timeline, or were bearded dwarves in underground stone cities drinking ale/beer from mugs. DS2 world is extremely generic at times, these things shouldn't exist in DS lore.
>Forest of Giants frustrating to you when areas such as Black Gulch and Shrine of Amana exist
Because having to deal with swarms of not-so-trash mobs with shitty equipment and mace of all things is not that easy. Also, ogres.
>Black Gulch
>Shrine of Amana
>frustrating
They're probably the most fun areas in the game I experienced so far.

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>level 8 bandit's knife
>crits everywhere
>bloodloss
>backstabs and riposes
>very light
>low endurance usage
>can combo forever

>>123857797
Pretty much sums up how I feel about the game. The B team mistook the lore's subtlety for literally make up some vague bullshit and call it a day. There's so much stuff within DaS2 that doesn't actually connect to anything it's infuriating.

Couldn't agree with you more in terms of the world. There's a decent amount of individually interesting areas but they're so incohesive when it comes to coexisting with each other that the end result is fucking just fucking jarring. I'll never understand how you manage you take an elevator UP from the top of Earthen Peak and arrive in a fucking castle submerged in lava. Was anyone checking for this sort of shit at all?

>>123860774
Nice meme.

>>123860774
>I'll never understand how you manage you take an elevator UP from the top of Earthen Peak and arrive in a fucking castle submerged in lava.
The same way you climb a clocktower and end up in a fishing village in BB. It's a fucking video game that doesn't take place in te real world.

>>123861042
That's a really stupid argument you've got there.

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>>123861042
>It's a fucking video game that doesn't take place in te real world.
It's a really shitty argument and you know it, especially when previous games had that coherency. I haven't played BB, but when you ride the elevator up to the top of the tower that is standing in the middle of plain desert-like area and end up in literal lavaland surrounded by volcanoes and lava as far as the eye can see, or walk through the tunnel and the tower you see before you moves to the side, it takes away all the immersion and atmosphere the game builds up until that point.
"b-b-but it's a video gaaame" or "b-but faaantaaasy" is not an argument, it's a retard medal you choose to wear proudly.

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>>123861116
Ok so how do you explain away the fact that the great hollow is too short ingame in DaS1?
It leads to a serious problem similar to DaS2's Iron Keep in that other areas are invisible from certain points when they really shouldn't be.

>>123861274
Nice strawmanning, retard.

>>123861483
Don't use words you don't understand.

>>123861443
I don't get it. Could you explain your picture?

>>123861443
That's a scaling issue, not a complete disconnect like DaS2 pulls off. There's still cohesion between travelling through Blighttown into the Great Hollow and Ash Lake - sure, the scale might be off but this is where being a video game is a more valid argument. To actually scale things as they should be might make things far too large to be as enjoyable as they might. The point here is that you're not literally travelling from the top of poison mountain to lethal lava land in a game where you're physically travelling between them.

>>123861443
>DS1 had that too!
My favorite DS2 defense force argument.

>>123861586
I think he's saying that the physical location in 3D space doesn't match up with where you are "supposed" to be while actually in-game.

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>>123861586

>>123861798
Post one for DS2, I wanna see all areas merging into each other.

>>123861669
>dastards have double standards
nothing new

>>123861738
Haaaa, okay.
I though that was like GTA3, a garage who's bigger on the inside.

>>123861887
They don't, is the thing. You've got a couple teleports like the boat from Dead Man's Wharf to Lost Bastille. In general, every area fans out from Majula in a linear line too, just in a different direction. That's pretty much what the crux of this argument is when comparing DaS1 to DaS2.

>>123861930
They're separate issues as I highlighted in a point earlier. DaS1 has scaling issues, sure. It doesn't have areas that simply don't make any fucking sense when moving between them.

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>>123861930
But you're a dastard yourself.
And you're still missing the point. DS1 had some shitty hitboxes, impossible space, trash mob bosses and other fuckups. DS2 has times and times more of those.

>>123862025
>They don't, is the thing.
I still need to see it.

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>>123862047
Better have more minor issue, but fix the fucking gameplay, senpai.
You don't seem to grasp how broken DaS1 is when you dig into it.

>>123839708
might be too late but you should get SoTFS if you're looking for those laughs you get every now and again in pvp.

It's good fun.

Running a mundane ladle build, people tend to give you sick credit when you bash their skull in :^)

>>123862416
>Better have a lot more major issues, but fix some minor issues, senpai.
ftfy

This is pretty much DS2 in a nutshell, making a step forward, then two strides back.

>>123862675
>>123862047
>no you
quality content right there

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>yfw Miyazaki ignores majority of DS2 and gives us a sequel we deserve

>>123862897
DaS3 combat is confirmed sped up DaS2 combat m8.

>>123862897
You misswrote DS1, newfriend.

>>123863048
So you haven't played the stress test? It's more like DeS, and speed is due to all demo characters having capped endurance.

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>>123863048
>DS2 combat without shitty animations, retarded hitboxes and vomit-worthy movesets
So basically more like DS1? Works for me.

>>123863192
You're mistaking them.
DaS1 is the one with the shitty hitboxes.

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>>123863284

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>tfw DS3 will be the best o two worlds
>size of DS2
>armor and weapon variety of DS2
>magic of DS2
>everything else of DS1

>>123863192
>>123863117
Funny how dastards can be fooled by visuals.
When ultimate deasubois like cass say it's DaS2 2.0 it's pretty clear what to expect.

>>123863431
Meh, dastard will just ignore it and keep playing their shitty old ported game.

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>>123862897
>8 directional rolling
>guard break into riposte
>delayed backstabs
>health penalty
>teleporting avaliable from the start
>re-spec
>bonfire ascetics
>no poise
They sure are ignoring DaS2

>>123863975
>can't read
These are good changes. It's the rest of the game that blows horse cock.

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>>123863975
dunno about bonfire ascetics but
>confirmed improved NG+
>manual aiming while locked on
>omnidirectional sprinting while locked on
>no toggle escape
>no dead angles
>gesture canceling
>mob ganks
>weapon tip parrying
DaS3 is gitting gud

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>>123864160
>half of these are already in DS2
>retards are wishing for stuff already included in DS2 to be in DS3

>>123864160
>no toggle escapes
>no dead angles
they fucked up

>>123864326
Sounds like you'll have to git gud for once.

>>123864380
>toggle escaping
>dead angling
>implying shitters know how to do that proficiently
I'm already good

>>123864140
>It's the rest of the game that blows horse cock.
debatable
No Mans Warth, Gutter/Black Gulch, Tseldora, Giant Forest, Shrine of Amana, Shulva, Brume Tower, Huntmans Copse and Earthen Peak are some of the best areas in the entire series.
P8, Cr8on, Lucatiel, Benhart and Sweet Shalquoir are good NPC's.
The DLC story and lore are fleshed out.
And nothing ever gets as bad as DaS1's second half despite the overal mediocrity of the game compared to DeS.

>>123864597
I want to have sex with Shanalotte?

>>123864680
>Shannalotte
>Anal Shotte
deepest lore

>>123864748
>BEARER OF THE CURSE
>I WILL STAY BY YOUR SIDE
>FOREVER
At least my character won't stay alone in the Throne of Want.

>>123864597
>Black Gulch
>Good

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Tseladora despite the nightmares it gave me is a good area but too short to include on this list, I feel. You're right about everything else. It's a shame the designs for armor and mooks is so mediocre to bad half the time, though.

>>123864820
BEAR SEEK SEEK LEST

I'd rather hang out with Shalquor forever. She seems legit.

>>123865047
But you can't spank or fuck a cat, Anon.

>>123864597
>debatable
DS2 shills will debate anything.

>No Mans Warth
You mean Let's Put As Many Trash Mobs As Possible In One Area Wharf? Which is also a pirate and viking town? Not only it's a shitty area by itself, it's cancerous to the established lore too.
>Gutter
Valley of Defilement 0.5: No Atmosphere Edition
>Black Gulch
It it's good only visually.
>Huntmans Copse
Best only at being the only forest area in Souls games that has no atmosphere whatsoever.
>Earthen Peak
Looks good from outside, awful on the inside.
>And nothing ever gets as bad as DaS1's second half
Yeah, but DaS2 bosses got "it can't get worse, can it" part covered for all 3 games together.

>>123865080
>But you can't spank or fuck a cat, Anon.

Losing a cute girl to spank for all eternity is indeed a large loss. Especially a stoic slut like Shanalotte, breaking her down would be fun.

It's arguable about whether or not I could fuck the cat. She might even be into it. She's ancient, so maybe she could even grow bigger for me.

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>>123857797
bandai namco happened.
they make the b team remake everything they were making(make the maps all over again, that were much better) and rushed the game at the same time.

i hate ds2 and its shiposters but i understand that it could be good, and that it's bandai fault.

they also fucked the lighting and graphics to give more fps.

>>123861443
there is nothing wrong with that you retard, it still makes sense, you want from software to make the map 10 times bigger so a autistic das2player can test a bloodstream and see it 4 years later after the game release? this is nothing compared to iron keep, everyone noticed that it makes no sense when they entered it

>>123863284
ds2 players:the post

>>123865080
still better than emerald. i'd kill emerald if i didn't need her to level, and that asshole blacksmith too(i also hate the blacksmith of demon's souls fuck him)

>>123864597
>And nothing ever gets as bad as DaS1's second half despite the overal mediocrity of the game compared to DeS.

every time i am in lost izalith i feel like i am playing dark souls 2.

>>123865124
>all these opinions

>>123865124
>dasdreck trying too hard again
oh u stahp it

>>123865284
>>123865204
It's okay bby, you can like the worst game in the series, ain't nothing wrong with that. Some people just like eating shit, you were just born that way.

>>123865391
>projecting this hard

>>123865202
But the gif shows an upgrade.
Despite the PS2 graphics, the version we got actually has proper atmosphere. Not this cawabloomy you seem to crave.

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>when you are talking about dark souls with someone and they suddenly start talking about examples in dark souls 2

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>>123865202

>>123865454
>start talking about shit game
>discussion changes to best game
I fail to see the problem.

>>123865449
>>123865516

>das2drones

>>123865523
you must think that matrix 2 is better than matrix 1 too

>>123865391
>all these millennial grade shitpost attempts
whew dasdreck almost smudged me

>>123865202
>4 years later
Fucking neodasdrones.
We knew about it since release. But there was no point spouting the games shortcomings to potential newcomers. The series was still niche and Skyrim was close.
But ever since it got popular it attracted shitstains like (You)

>>123865930
Are you implying that Souls players are elitist?

>>123851646
katanas are heavy for their size in real life too

>>123865930
there is nothing bad about it you retard
the bloodstream is outside the map, its on the 2d low res background part near the 2d part

>+3 dickwraith and 99 soft humanity

now I'm bored, wish there was more to do with these than just kindle bonfires

>>123863048
I don't have problem with that. The reason why das2 is shit is because how slow it is, making everyone playing passively because every weapon is so easy to punish.

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>>123866424
>nothing bad
Ash Lake is clearly missing a huuuge structure in its horizon, bud.
That's lazy.

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>>123866653
>making everyone playing passively because every weapon is so easy to punish
That's DaS1.
You can't even punish ultra weapons with daggers by reaction in DaS2. It's only effective because the prediction of slow weapon users has to be spot on aka they have to git gud.
Also DaS2 is not much slower than the other souls games especially with recovery cancelling which isn't shown in the webm.

>>123865202
I still can't figure out whose bright idea was it to remove specular maps from majority of models and environments in the game. It's because of that the game looks like something that was made in 2004.

>>123867216
>b-but DS1
Opinion discarded, sorry kiddo.

>>123867410
n1c3 1 ch4mp

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How beat the Fume Knight with my mace at SL 139?

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>das1

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>>123867648

>>123867648
>>123867803
I'm so glad we're probably gonna get the best backstab system in DaS3.

>>123867905
https://youtu.be/shFOJTwBo7M?t=254 It's great, I love it.

>>123867905
You will be able to fish for a BS attempt and fuck someone stuck in the whiff animation.
DaS3 meta will be people backstepping into each other.
Screencap this folks.

>>123868259
What's the point in screencapping an anon who will embarass himself pathetically?

>>123868259
The animation you gotta charge is not fast enough. Spacing's gonna be too strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUv8TmtcruI

>>123868446
see
>>123868102
0:08
All someone has to do is turtle or parryspam and dodge the attempted BS attempt. Then you punish the every time.

What's your favourite weapon in das2?

>>123868830
Can't imagine the estoc turtle cancer.

>>123868830
You're not answering the question.

Can you not change player body values with CE anymore? That one table everywhere doesn't have it and I keep hearing people say any changes are client-side only. Isn't how it used to be in normal DS2 atleast.

Was hoping to make some fun cosplays but the default shapes leave a lot to be desired.

>>123868842
I'd have to say the MLGS or the drakekeeper UGS

both are fun stuff for me.

the vanquisher's seal is p good too

>all weapons are viable in DS2
What is with that meme? Everyone knows that only weapons with range and sweep attacks are viable in any way.

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>>123868842
This buggy mess of questionable design choices. Also the black jew star of 180 degree tracking.

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>>123868842
Yorghs Spear.
That thing is god tier.

>>123869192
So ultra weapons?

Stuck on biggie smalls. Dragonslayer guy is too fast and they never give me any space to do any attacks.

Last round:
>summon Solaire
>rush to boss room
>he doesn't join

Round before that:
>kill biggie
>smalls kills me

I can do 100 per hit for biggie, but smalls can only do like 30.

>>123869306
Greatswords and larger, yeah. Can anyone really say DEX builds are viable in DS2, when you need multiple hits to kill even the smallest shit that also comes in numbers?

>>123869504
Uh, anon, he obviously was talking about PvP.

>>123869504
By being good scrub.

>>123869385
Use fire on smalls, then kill biggie. If you want smalls' armor and weapons, then good luck with that. He's tough even for group of people.

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>>123869558
>PvP
Oh, you mean that feature that only morons take seriously? No wonder they like DS2.

>>123869734
So you're saying DaS2 does the thing the whole series is known for good?

>>123869734
Besides all that, rapiers are still a very popular choice for quick pve runs.

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>>123869934
>PvP
>thing the whole series is known

>this is what DS2 babies actually believe

>>123869934
>PvP
>good
Whut?

All these threads are nothing but complain about how PvP is shit.

>>123870024
To be fair unique multiplayer system is what made the series unique and popular in the first place.

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>>123870045
Yes, DaS1 pvp is shit.
That's why the game is dead.

>>123870184
Except among nostalgiafags who hate anything that is recent.

Anyone that played ds3 network test or that it's informed better than i am can tell me how high are the system requirements going to be based on graphics?
I can run ds1 barely at 25fpsx720 while i get a decent steady 30 in ds2 dx9.

>>123870130
Yes, but not PvP. PvP is just a feature, it was never considered good or balanced, it's just there for fun. DS2 PvP is probably least shitty of all, but it doesn't mean much in grand scheme of things. On the other hand DS2 is a collection of poor decisions and wrong priorities, so no surprise there.

>>123870259
It's a current gen game. Can you play any other ps4/xbone game?

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>>123870184
Fun fact, when I replayed DS1 on PS3 and then PC a month ago, I had more invasions and co-op players than right now playing DS2. And I play DS2 in human form for the majority of time.
>>123870253
>nostalgiafags who hate anything that is recent
>WAAAH, THEY JUST HATE DS2 BECAUSE IT'S NEW
>everyone loves Bloodborne

>>123870447
>everyone loves Bloodborne
lmao

>>123870447
>everyone loves Bloodborne
So Dasfags are stupid AND deluded? That's a lot.

>>123870491
Sorry, let me rephrase
>everyone who's not a DS2 babby
Here.