/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

Anybody have a glyph for an easy depth 5 dungeon to farm for rocks?

Do any of the additional rites increase the drop rate on them?

Reposting because new.

Which is best MLG for a heavy STR/ARC build? Lost?

Is The Hunter the strongest video game character ever?

>>123815805
Thanks.

I'm shooting for a level 120 MLGS build. END is really where I'm uncertain. I've got 15 END right now and as long as I have an Anti-Clockwise Metamorphosis rune I'm fine, but I'd never say no to more Stamina if I can afford it.

>>123815957
2 radials and a triangle, so the standard one

So I am in the fishing hamlet, and I'm like hey lets look at those fish inside those barrels.

There is no fish, only slug like creatures not unlike the one you transform into after moon presence.

ayyy

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how's your parasite build going, /bbg/?

I-I thought ARC was easymode

>>123815532

If you use the transformation attack and hit your enemy with it you can take that chunk of health back thanks to rally. Its really fucking cool. Love Bloodletter but farming off shape BLT gems is worse than farming elemental and arcane gems.

So, the guide is almost as big as the one for the main game.
What have we missed?

>>123816129
>barely touched chalices since DLC hit

I should head down again now we can buy materials

>>123816183
That a company really wants to sell guides and has probably padded it with full page illustrations

>>123816129
Working up to getting it first

Still haven't finished the DLC yet to get it

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Based fishmen

>>123816129
i stopped playing the DLC after Lutvig
need to pick it back up but eh

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>>123815908
Depends what boss you find easy. But additional rites don't have any effect on drop rate

Webm related

Can anyone help me take out Ludwig? Ringing at the lantern w/ PW bbg321

>>123816336
How easy would you say it is to do that?

>>123816129
Going fantastic, I adore this thing so much. Got discouraged when I went to Mensis and didn't do a whole lot of damage to the midgets in armor, but then I dropped into Lower Loran and was doing great damage. Guess those guys have good Arc resistance. Invading is a total blast, my favorite is research hall.

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>DLC added all these amazing unique weapons
>Expansion 2 never
>Bloodborne 2 never
>This general will probably die in 4 months
>/dsg/ will have Dark Souls 3, Dark Souls 3 expansion, Demon Souls remake

Is not fair.

Reposting
Best version of whirligig for arcane build?

>>123816506
omw

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>>123816129
I'm searching for that perfect 27%er, but it's ok I guess

I just gotta git gud at the moveset. All I really do is bait into an L2 and hopefully clean house. I love the way you move and attack though

>>123816512
Well you saw the video, that was my first time doing it on this character, every character took only one try. the hunter WILL jump down after you.

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>>123816129
pretty good. still farming to get better gems though. I even have the stupid glyph memorized I do it so much. y592byza for triangles and 8y2wes5u killing the brainsucker in the lever room over and over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coW1pPGILp0

>>123816543
Why wont you be playing DaS3?

I know, having to go to /dsg/ will be shitty but secretly we are thinking of just discussing it in here

>>123816552
Uncanny or Lost depending on your luck

>invading in the hunters nightmare
>everytime it's a ganksquad in the chapel
>decide to do the run around to the shortcut past the bridge
>session lost
>host has started the boss
faggots, so many faggots

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If I wanted to have an ultimate anime battle with Maria, should I use the transformed Burial Blade, or the Chikage?

>>123816704
How many dungeons do I need to do before I can access this?

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>>123816129

I'll need to resub PS+ again

>>123816715

Not excited for DaS 3 after DaS 2 sucked. I am also tired of the medieval theme.

>>123816137

Off-shape? I thought only circle gems could have BLD atk up. Wouldn't 27.2% phys be best anyway, or can you get higher?

>>123816552
Why a whirlytwirly on arcane build over MLGS or Tentacle Grape?

>>123816964
But Miyazaki, anon. I'm cautiously optimistic that the game will be alright.

>>123816909
just make one C/R/F root chalice and you will be able to make any of each type as long as you have obtained their respective root chalice by beating certain bosses.

>>123816763
Fishing Hamlet seems to be the only place for decent 1v1's, anything before that is full of ganksquad faggots who refuse to leave the vicinity of their safe little lamp.

>>123816972

You can have 31% BLT radials and triangles. I have them on my chikage character but I cant remember where I got them. Build is like 5 months old.

>>123816964
DaS3 has Miyazaki back. It's no guarantee it'll be better than 2, but I'm optimistic. It even has MP again, Demon's Souls-style.

I can sympathize with being tired of the medieval setting, though.

is there any dungeon with the Pthumerian Elder not being the last boss?

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>>123816704
cheers I was about to ask about gems. Is uncanny parasite best?

>>123816552
with perfect abyssals i was able to get like, 2 more AR out of the RRC version. this is with perfect colds, perfect abhorrent crescent, 27% triangle etc.

i think ti basically doesn't matter and you should use whatever you have the best gemsf or

>>123816978
because you need a second weapon and pizza is better than MLGS

>>123817062
Bloodborne is lacking heavily in certain parts, but the DLC was wonderful. I hope DS3 is nothing like Bloodborne, especially the world and the whole going back to the dream garbage design.

>>123816543
Just watched some footage of DkS3, the one IGN posted. And to be honest it really gives off a Boletarian vibe on some of the levels, the one that looks like Bloodborne.

It's amazing how on the outside it looks like Bloodborne but inside it's a whole different area.

>>123816972
I got a 30% scaling radial of a random bloke in pthumeru ihyl, so it is possible.

>>123816543
I bet you one of those retards who liked DS only when it was console ex.

>>123817108

People still invade in Mergo's Loft Middle though.

The other day I was farming some Brain Trusts and I got invaded by a BowKagefag that I killed with an overhead with Pizzacutter.

>>123816964
>Not excited for DaS 3

Neither was I but then I saw this and did a mess in my pants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imdkPyXteGY

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>Ludwig,the Holy Blade
>4% ULTRA RARE achievement
looks like most players are DSP tier.

>>123817251
DS3 network test was the same and it feels nothing like Demon's Souls or Boletaria.

>>123816506
Well that was embarrassing, back at lamp if you need

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pls no bully I'm just doing this for fun
3 hours in ms paint w/ mouse

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>>123817223
yup uncanny because triangles are best for arcane scaling, or at least they are more common.

>>123817258
>>123817109

Oh god, welp time to starting grinding this shit out.

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>>123816924
>arcane attack up 27.2%

HOW

>>123817108
I want the ganksquad, but they just want you to run in and get r1 spammed and have attentionspan of rodents

is DaS set to be the only game series in history where the 2nd game is bad and the 3rd game is good?

>>123816389
I was hoping for one where the dungeon itself was pretty quick, and then no potentially challenging bosses like Amygdala or Abhorrent Beast.

>>123817248
I think storywise that Bloodborne is the best and that's really the draw of Miyazaki for me. It was a tad too linear in its progression and certain parts of the game feel uneven as fuck, especially the beast bosses and the Nightmare of Mensis, but overall the PvE was really good in this game.

I doubt we'll have a hub world in Dark Souls 3. Bloodborne had elements that were very much successors to Demon's Souls and the idea of a hub world/nexus is one of them. If anything we'll just have another Firelink Shrine type place.

>>123817434
you srs?
that's a common drop from ISZ

>>123817434
5pwujscd, or any isz watcher, has 27% triangles for all elements as well as physical

>>123817458
Devil May Cry

So what's the best place to farm Bloodstone Chunks still the blue-eyed beasts or is there something better?

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>>123816924
post overpowered arcane weapons

rate overpowered arcane weapons

>>123816894
Both of them would be equally anime. Be sure to use hunter bone. Holy moonlight sword would be pretty anime too since it's Magic moonlight wave vs Blood

>>123817651
>level 110

Opinion discarded

>>123817424
Pretty good going to get it tattooed on my face/10

>>123817591
do the radials in pwmf22gu get arcane scaling?

>>123817358
that looks so boring and tame compared to bloodborne

>>123817608
depth 5 dungeons desu, every boss gives one or two chunks
just do it while farming gems

>>123817608
I just run Isz layer one over and over again. Brainsucker drops chunks and he's an easy a fuck boss.

>>123817367
>tfw you realize the majority of that was probably done with summons

>>123817529
>bb story
>good

It's literally ripped straight from lovecraft, and the npcs are all literally nothing.

>>123817598
fuck. that's obvious. i'm ashamed

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>>123816924
>+213
I rock the parasite with +301

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so who is this nigga and what's his role in all of this?

>>123817367

I think part of the reason is because so many people probably went into the DLC in NG+ with their first character, which tend to be shit.

DLC NG+ is pretty brutal even with a proper character.

>>123817742
not unless you get insanely lucky
like beyond offshape lucky

>>123817774
I can't trust the literary opinions of a man that uses literally incorrectly twice in one sentence

>>123817651

Whats the code for waning cold abyssal ?

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>he doesn't pronounce Isz like ease
>he doesn't pronounce Ihyll like eye hill

>>123817848
Random doctor giving you blood, which pulls you into the dream.

>>123817774
It's definitely not. The whole idea of humans actually wanting to ascend to Great Onehood is utterly incompatible with Lovecraft, whose works never included anything remotely hubristic. And Lovecraft, despite being a successor of Poe in his early career, didn't really have much of a Gothic aesthetic going on.

How much of Lovecraft have you read?

The NPCs are nothing though. It's a real shame.

>>123817458
>dark souls 2 is bad

>>123817708
do you think i'd have 10 tinge on an arcane build if it wasn't a test character

>>123817774
>literally
>literally

pls go and stay go

>>123817841

>I only care about AR

>>123817841
What are your gems m8

Is it just me or is the MLGS in Bloodborne the best incarnation from a purely moveset standpoint? I mean the ability to summon the sword and that L2 attack.

It makes me realize just how much more amazing weapons are in BB than any Souls game, when DaS3 comes along the single mode weapons are going to be severely underwhelming.

>>123818024
spot the pc kuk

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>>123817940
>English """"""""""""""""pronunciation""""""""""""""""
fucking disgusting tbhfam

>>123817940
>ease
>eye hill

And that is why I need to use IPA for any fantasy names I come up with.

>>123817751
Well it's the first boss can't expect it to be Laurence levels of aggressive

>It's attacks slowly set the cathedral on fire

It's the little things that I really love

>>123817904
>actually thinking the npcs in BB are as good or better than the NPCs in DeS and DaS

Fuck, even lucatiel and the mlgs faggot in das2 are better than every npc in BB (although the rest of the npcs in 2 are just as bad).

>>123817708
Is 120 not an acceptable PvP level?

>>123816580
Thanks for the help

>All these time since Dark Souls 1 I thought the phantoms you see walking around and fighting were players in real time
>I used to do hi gestures hoping they would see me and wave back
>Turns out I was wrong and is not real time. Its just a recording that triggers randomly and that happened a long time ago

Fucking kill me

>>123818276
>actually thinking the npcs in BB are as good or better than the NPCs in DeS and DaS

Sorry, where did you read anything like that?

>>123818282
There is a level 98 meme going around, ignore it

>>123817940
>eyez
>ill

I couldn't even pronounce Hermione when I read the Harry Potter books in my teenage years kek.

>>123818024
It is objectively the worst in the series. Even trying to defend it shows that your taste is so shit you might as well just start shitposting now because there's no discussion to be had.

>>123818282

Nah just play 117 so you can match up with all the 98 fags.

>want to play ayy lmao
>have to get uncanny and farm gems to make it worth anything
FUCK CHALICES JESUS CHRIST

>>123818356
np sorry about the false start

>>123818282
People here are 98-120, 120 is standard outside of /bbg/

>>123818414
at what level will i have the most multiplayer action?

>>123818379
I know for a fact it can be real time in Bloodborne.

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Anyone wanna help me out with Orphan? This guy is just giving me the business

>>123818507
If you want anything good you need to farm chalices.

>>123816763
>>123817108
Are you people retarded? Complaining about ganksquads when doing random invasions - sounds like you're both entitled honour babbies.

>>123817708

For why?

>>123818507
Getting uncanny is the easy part.

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>>123818085
>x2 +67 flat ARC radials
>9.1% + 72 ARC triangle

Repeat request for Logarius assistance.

Pass is blood

>>123818520
80 - 120

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Should I be after flat arcane or arcane scaling at 50 arc with the parasite?

>>123818458
Being the "worst" of the series doesnt make it a bad game.

>>123818578
Pass is kos123

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Solid teamwork purple magic spammy fishbro.

>>123818598
I'm not complaining about the presence of ganksquads you autist, just the way these homos are disconnecting or running to laurence to do the same thing if I don't walk into their charged r2s and gatling guns face first

>>123818617
>Logarius assistance.

Do it solo man, it's one the the best bosses in the game

>>123818617
what level?

>>123818578
Password?

>>123818578
post that pass senpai

>>123817774
ok plaque

>>123818615
where did you get the radials?

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Holy shit these guys are literally walking cancer tumors.

>Isz chalice layer3
>One stands on the middle ledge, guarded by 3 brainsuckers and 2 werewolves

Fuck that piece of shit

>>123818558

I am not sure if all phantoms are the same or some can be in real time. Today I was farming watchers save scumming and every single time I load up the back up save and opened the boss door the exact same phantom spawned in the same place doing the same action. It was definitely not real time.

Anyone wanna help clear my cursed Pthumerian Defilement chalice??
...anyone?

>>123818760
>>123818761
kos123 friends, thanks a lot

>>123818774
Did he also think that? I can't believe anyone's that actually read Lovecraft would think that.

>>123818861
Ringing now.

>>123818824
That's why I said "it can be". My friend said he could see my phantom the other day while we were at the same place at the same time.

>>123818752
Already beaten it multiple times. Just want Chikage for my blt build.

>>123818759
40

>>123818795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4NpPzQtukk

>don't play pvp because i don't want to farm gems
Sucks, man. I dislike the gem system.

blasphemous murderers...

>>123818861
>>123818924
Shit I had the Hunter rune on. Apologies friend.

>>123818795
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3poth0/guide_the_arcanist_an_enormous_guide_to_arcaneing/cw84dpx
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/individual-blood-gems.html

>>123818680
arcane scaling

flat arcane ignores attack multipliers

kos parasite has the biggest multiplier in the game, which is why it hits for way more damage than its 300 AR would indicate

if you use flats your AR goes up and your damage goes down

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FUCK YOOOOOU!

>>123818861
I ain't finding you, maybe I'm already too late though

>>123819031

You can ease the pain with a STR or SKL build thanks to me mensis 19% gems and do PVP. For everything else you are fucked.

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>>123819031
go do the dungeons and get some gems you belching foreskin there's co-opers everywhere right now

>>123817461

ptwrx6tb is really easy, Brainsucker, Merciless Wankers and Celestial Emissary.

>>123818990
Where are you ringing?

>>123818379
At least the ones that you see sitting/standing near bonfires are real time.

Anyone feel like giving me a hand with Orphan?
lvl 74 ringing at fog gate, pass is bbg

>>123819230
You shouldn't be. I just got summoned but had to blank out because lol Hunter of Hunters and there didn't look to be anyone there yet.

>>123819209
Really unfair

>>123819173
Ah, makes sense. I wondered why mine took a hit in damage when I switched to flats despite showing way higher AR

>>123818924
ENB has actually read lovecraft and that's what he spouted every time the ayy lmaos shot up. It was also this generals consensus for the first 4-6 months of release. It was also said that "Bloodborne is the lovecraftian horror of Souls"

>>123819209
>>123819173
okay I can do this, I've gone numb to chalice grinding christ

>all of this lv 98 fags with superior gems

Too scared with lv 150 fellas?

>>123819310
>>123819358
Yea, rushed in, you were a bit late. I'm just really excited to get this done. Ringing again now

>>123819454
but ENB is a gigantic faggot tough

also the blood vials being mentrual blood has been disprouved with the dlc

Was that article about From Soft saying a 60fps patch might be incoming any legit? I understand Sony did something to unlock more power for the ps4, but that much of a performance boost? I'm skeptical.

>>123819209
what's the highest Arcane ATK UP+% drop?

>>123819621
I think ENB is an ok guy 2bh

>>123818990
Just beat him thanks a ton Drenol

>>123819238
Where at in Mensis?

>>123819621
Vaati pls

>>123819515
>superior gems
lmao

That L2 on pizza cutter is ridiculous levels of cancer in pvp.

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>>123819515
>150 "builds"

>>123819775
That was fun. I'm really enjoying this beast mode.

>>123819782
Secret passage on the outside elevator, drops from the brain ladies.

>havnt played aany of the dark souls or demon souls games
>no ps3 or 360 or pc to play them on
Feels bad man

What runes do people tend to use for PvP? Other than the +20% stamina rune.

>>123819794
>using a move on a weapon is cancer
Sounds like someone needs to git gud

>>123819794
>trying to mow in pvp

It's like you want to be parried forever.

>>123819621
enb is chill. menstrual blood is in the game, simmer down

>>123819920
Aw fuck. Winter lanterns are shit already, oh well.

Guess I'll go do it. Do I need Eye runes?

So how do I beat Orphan? I keep getting bullshit hit because a lot of the time when I try to dodge past him I end up getting stuck to him and I take massive amounts of damage. This happens on both of his phases.

>>123819515
Too scared to tackle the chalices?

Our 150 'builds' would be 99 in an attack stat and like 70 or something in vit and we would STILL have best gems. Sure you're up for that?

>>123819454
Bloodborne was heavily inspired by Lovecraft's works. That's undeniable.

What i don't get is how that somehow makes it a bad game or something

>>123819943
+15% health
+20% stamina
free space (More rally, more bullets, better viscerals, etc)

>>123819454
Oh yeah sure superficially the ayylmaos are pure Lovecraft. But the relationship between humankind and the Great Ones in-game is completely at odds with Lovecraft's idea of helpless humanity, trapped here on our watery rock as things beyond our control tear out of the stars left and right. It definitely has elements of Lovecraftian horror, though. I'm not contesting that.

>>123816894

Tricked MLGS

Chikage is runner up

Thank you guys so much!

So are the people crying about Ludwig people who haven't done chalices? Because I kicked his ass at bl66 with a weapon that barely had over 400 ar, it wasn't artificial difficulty.

>>123819993
I'm not sure. They pretty much always drop something for me, it's just that they have huge loot tables.

>>123819782

youtube.com/watch?v=U3P2h8mLDbI

The area has one 19% gem you can pick up from the ground. You have to farm the other two from the brains. Slap 3 of those and you can do PVP without farming chalices.

>>123819261
>can do something
>don't want to
I know I can. I don't want to. I already have my weapon at +10 and my build done. I don't want to have to farm. that's simple as that.

>>123819964
It's not the ability itself, it's the fact that it can be seamlessly chained from an R1 really fast. So you're already stunned from the R1 and going into the L1 is so fast it happens before the other player can recover, and it's continues with a stun while doing insane damage.

By the time you get out you're either dead or have ~1/4 of your health left because the damage is so retarded.

>>123819271
Thanks!

>>123820226
Ok. Thanks anon.

>>123819982
how to spot a redditor

Is it normal to cry after killing the rotted brain in Mensis?

>>123820215
>NG
who cares

>>123819621
I'll take ENB's fucktarded theories over Vaati's thievery.

>>123820308
spot the vaatishill

>>123820227
Getting an error on that link. Gonna try farming them anyways.

>>123819356
Pls respond

>>123820230
Just trying to spur you on, if you don't want help or motivation why post about it? You want a shoulder to cry on?

>>123820328
Who the fuck cares about ng+?

>>123820227
You still lose out on a 24% damage boost by doing that.

They should have put 27% gems in the DLC on NG+ to remove the mandatory chalice bullshit.

>>123820343
I'll take ENB's interpretations over most peoples since he's actually worked on ds2 and some of BB and will be working on ds3. But then again, some of his theories are clearly fucktarded, but then again you have plagueofgripes which is wrong about a shitton of things just because he is stubborn or doesn't learn or something so i'd take ENB over those types of faggots anyday.

>>123820227
There are also 2 new brain ladies in the DLC that drop 22% gems

>caring about youtubes views on the lore
>not just going through it yourself and making your own conclusions
:^)

What's the highest % for arcane gems? Is it 24?

>>123820476
The only thing DS2 did right was adding more challenges/different mobs in NG+ other than just "LOL MORE HEALTH AND DAMAGE!"

>>123820476
NG+ is a jump. NG is pretty easy.

>>123820476
who the fuck brags about beating something in NG?

>>123820406
so what now, you either got the choice between vaati or ENB?

what kind of idiot are you

>>123820608
To be fair, the dlc contradicts a bunch of shit that seemed straightforward in vanilla, so it is easy to make mistakes in understanding what is going on.

>>123820520
Doesn't NG+ let you buy chalice materials so you can speed up the process?

>>123820227
>>123820226
Got one my first kill. Fuck yeah. Thanks a lot.

>>123820578

Holy shit really? This is news to me.

>>123820608
>Not kidnapping big M and making him spill the beans
you people DON'T EVEN KNOW

>>123820540
A lot of his "theories" are just him thinking out loud. He says this numerous times.

>>123820608
only way to do, just remember to share your revelations friend

>>123819943
10% hp
15%hp
5%hp

>>123820608
>>not just going through it yourself and making your own conclusions
>then watching bbg sperg out like facts screaming YOU'RE WRONG FUCK OFF when you interpret something a different way than the hivemind

>>123820520
But 27% gems are for the good players

>>123820681
What challenges were those exactly? Dropping in easy mobs for two boss fights?

>>123820028
You can parry both of his phases pretty easily if you're a fucking faggot.

But otherwise you can usually pull off a viseral on his back when he does the jump attack over you in his first phase. Also generally try to stay on his left side and be patient. Try to get in 1-2 attacks when a theres an opening and then get the fuck out in a hurry.

>>123820460
Yes, basically.
I'm dissatisfied with the gem system because any illusion of choice is overshadowed by 'DIS IS BEST' and there's no cool using fast poison gems or anything for fun. I used to beat people in souls with a poison enchanted blacksmith hammer because it was just fun.

>>123818276
I think Eileen, Djura, Iosefka, the Beggar, Brador, Gilbert, Micolash, Gehrman, Simon, Arianna and Gascoigne were all as memorable as the Souls characters. DeS NPCs are still the best though

>>123820698
He just has more HP and hits harder, if you know how to kill him in NG you can kill him in NG+

>>123819031
You can farm the Winter Lanterns in the DLC near Orphan of Kos. They drop Gems that boost your physical attack up to 22%.

>>123820698
>>123820707
Beyond having areas open for invasion (lol who cares) and ritual materials (lol who cares), what is there to ng+ in BB? Dark souls 2 had a lot of dumb shit in it but at least the ng+ was well thought out. Definitely my least favorite thing about BB

>>123820540

>will be working on ds3

Oh boy i cant wait for enb and germanspy to hate on DS3 because they worked on the guide and they see the game as work instead of fun, like what happened with DS2 and BB

>>123820928
>Beyond having areas open for invasion
ding ding

Im pretty sure therea gonna be a bloodborne 2

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>>123820520
>They should have put 27% gems in the DLC on NG+ to remove the mandatory chalice bullshit.

they understand you've gotta want it to get it

>>123820772
What he >>123820895 said

>>123820841
There are tons of different mobs in areas that spawn only in higher NG cycles (can't be asceticed). For example, brume tower gets more npcs and some red phantoms at NG+2 and then keeps getting more up until NG+7.

I mean yeah it's piss easy, but at least they tried and it is refreshing. It's definitely better than just health+damage because just health+damage gets boring as shit. As long as the new challenges/enemies don't drop exclusive items then there is literally nothing wrong with it, in fact i'd say it should be in ds3, and should've been in bloodborne.

>>123820437
ringing my shit for you if you are still there

>>123820895
Those gems disappear don't they? Bugged as fuck.

>>123820982
Thank goodness I don't care about that.

>>123820946
did they hate BB for real?

>>123820928
>DaS2 NG+
>well thought out
????

also, whats the point in staying in NG?

>>123820840
/bbg/ can get a little vitriolic but I think it's based mostly on the presentation of ideas. Like someone comes in here and starts screaming their ideas are right, of course /bbg/ is gonna lose its shit. I expected to get thrown out of here by the pitchfork wielding masses when I suggested the Old Hunter's Bone was Gehrman's but it was received better than expected and I think it's largely because I didn't come in here screaming about how I'm right and they're wrong, like certain posters of ill-repute do fairly consistently.

>>123820841
>But 27% gems are for the good players
>HEY BBG CARRY ME THROUGH DEFILED CHALICE WITH YOUR LEVEL 150 CHARACTER PLS THNX

No. 27% gems mean nothing now.

>>123821097

It seems that only gems from the snail women disappear. Dont know if bug or intentional.

>implying there wont be a bloodborne 2
Topkek

>>123821059
I hope there isn't IF anything I would just want more DLC to expand on the base game, but From already said they don't plan on touching Bloodborne ever again in the DLC department.

I'm tired of unneeded sequels, honestly. another $20 expansion would be fine by me, but not having any other kind of addition would work for me. I have been satiated plenty with Bloodborne.

>>123821139
Are you kidding? Hate on das2 all you want, but it had the best ng+ system of any souls game. That is a factual statement.

>>123821117
Don't know if "Hate" is the right word but ENB said he was sick of BB to the point where he isn't even going to do videos on the Old Hunters for the foreseeable future.

>>123821097
I farmed them today and none of the stones they dropped disappeared. I believe it only affects waning bloodgem stones, like the fools gem.

>>123821221
Gonna try it. Thanks. Are they 22% physical gems?

>>123820540
>>123820946
I thought ENB wouldn't be working on DS3 because of exactly that. He's been saying he wants to play it blind.
>>123821117
He thinks it's too dark and got PTSD over the story hitting too close to home.

I've got a friend starting the game soon, and i can't find that image with spoiler free tips for the life of me. does anyone have it? the one ending with "Don't Wake Up"

>>123821294
all it did was add a half a doezen random red mobs, are you serious?

fuck me kos parasite is stamina hungry

still not gonna lvl endurance

>>123821246
>>123821059

Nah. We have a higher chance of getting a The Order 1886 2 than Bloodborne 2.

>>123821221
Fishmen 's gem drops break for me too. I find it ironic that the Poorman gems are disappearing because that's exactly what I am when I check my inventory.

>>123821191
You don't have to come in screaming about how you're right. Literally something like 'hmm what if blah blah was because of blah blah, that makes sense right?'. You'll swiftly get replied with NO FUCK OFF WE HAVE ALREADY DECIDED WHY THAT WAS LIKE THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NEVER EXPLICITLY STATED IN THE GAME AND WAS LEFT ENTIRELY UP TO PLAYER INTERPRETATION

>>123821191
What made you think its gehrmans? Im interested now and i mustve missed when you first explained it

>>123820856
Poison is of no use it's sad but true, literally everything else is though

>>123821363
As opposed to nothing, nothing, and nothing? Shut the fuck up, you retard.

Also it did change up a few bosses, but you're already wrong so who cares.

>>123821363
Which is still miles better than adding... nothing.

>>123821310
22% ones seem rare, you're more likely to get 20% or 21% ones. and yes they're physical and fit in every slot.

>>123820882

Really? Gascoigne says two sentences to you. He is a non-character. Djura says, what 4? If you find the eldritch retardation that makes him neutral, that is. Arianna pops out a kid and dies. Gilbert coughs and is a bargain-basement crestfallen; notable only because he has a flamethrower. Micolash is just retarded, he is a meme and little else. And Gehrman only shows up at the start and at the end to try and kill you, he does nothing that makes him notable before he is a boss. And Iosefka dies after 2 bosses if you even meet her. The fake is just a nut.

None of these characters develop, they at best do their own thing and you get to maybe see them a couple times. You don't save them from direct peril and have little agency in their fates outside whether you pointlessly kill them.

>>123821503
>>123821532
im not comparing it to BB, I'm disputing the claim that it was "well thought out"

lmao

Should I do the rest of Lower Thumeru (layers 3 and 4), or Nightmare Frontier for the Ailing Loran Chalice? Would anyone want to go through either with me?

>>123821562
Thanks.

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>mfw I couldn't beat Orphan so I just gave up and pretended like I beat the DLC since I was pretty much at the end anyway

>>123821117
well enb never said hate, but then again he never said he hated DS2 either. but it's pretty obvious he didnt like the game.

as for spy, he and his butt buddy plagueofgripes, pretty much hate the game

this shit makes me wonder what this two cunts are doing writing the strategy guide in the first place

Why do the Cainhursts have so many statues?

>>123821589
I guess I'll give you that, but at least they tried to make it more interesting, which is something I want them to keep doing.

>>123821117
he got ptsd from the lore
its legit

>>123821565
>The fake is just a nut.

opinion discarded

>>123821087
There's nothing wrong with it but it's exclusion doesn't bother me in the slightest really, if there were crazy new mobs or if existing mobs were significantly changed, even just appearance-wise, i'd go in on NG+

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>>123821589
>I got proven wrong, lmao!

>>123820882
>eileen
Ok that's an example of a good one.
>djura
Like 3 lines of dialouge and nothing special about him other than being a powder keg.
>Iosefka
Nothing interesting about her at all. She is literally nothing and gets replaced by an AYY Lmao almost immediately. The replacement of Iosefka is a better character than Iosefka and even then it's still shit.
>the Beggar
Literally just a "ooh suprise!" there is nothing to his character at all.
>Brador
DLC shouldn't count, i'm talking about base game m8. But I'll give you it.
>Gilbert
Oh god im sick and shit oh shit, this is all you will ever learn about me!!!!!! Oops now ima beast man!
>Micolash
I'd say he's more of a boss than an NPC and still there isn't much about him other than "lol look at how crazy and silly I am! KOSM! AWOOOO"
>Gehrman
He was ok, but there wasn't much too him but the huge surprise twist at the end (pic related).
>Simon
Again DLC, and he wasn't much.
>Arianna
Literally and figuratively just a slut.
>Gascoigne
Boss with some "muh tragic" backstory, nothing much else about him.

>>123821421
Maybe I just got lucky then.

>>123821427
I based it mostly on the fact that we can't trust the item descriptions 100% because the text for the Rifle Spear says it's the only trick weapon with a gun attached, though it does hint at an old Cainhurst design. It just confirms that the descriptions are written from a flawed in-game perspective as opposed to an omniscient exterior narrator. Oh and the Doll prays at that grave, which would make sense if it was Gehrman's in the Abandoned Workshop.

We concluded that there's really not enough information to base a credible claim on though and the DLC has only muddied the matter further with it being the Nightmare gravestone.

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>>123821565
>he doesn't like fake iosefka
she's always wanted to try a hunter, anon

>>123821726
you dont want to take your buffed up character through another playthrough to see how it fares? it doesnt even take that long

>>123821659
he liked bb brother, he won't play oh because
>his wife had a miscarrige and teh theme about babbies and shit is 2rough4him
>overworked and wants to take some time off before coming back.

>>123821704
>>123820946
this is why i never want to go into game design, ruin the magic

>>123821205
>/bbg/
>150 character
>He doesn't know summons get busted down to the level of the beckoner

Did you even play it? Please stop typing in all caps, it hurts your case

>>123821087

Bloodborne had so much potential. Freja jumping you in NG+ was awesome in DKS2, and with no fog walls Bloodborne would have been perfect for that. Imagine walking into Gascoignes room and Cleric beast or Amygdala being there instead. But, nope, we needed them random dungeons. It's like Diablo. But shittier.

>>123821659
But anon, no one liked DS2.

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>>123821825
I love her fanart.

Hey, friends. What makes Saif so good anyway?

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>>123821565
>Gascoigne isn't memorable because he says two lines to you
Discarded.

Gascoigne had a great story. Someone didn't interact with his daughters. Someone didn't piece together what happened in that graveyard, the tragedy with his wife. Someone didn't watch his best friend finally snap under the weight of Gascoigne's death and become a blood addled hunter.

That's what souls games are. Finding the story is on YOU. This isn't some fucking jrpg where the character announces their every thought to you and every villain expounds on their plans while cackling. You discover the NPC story.

>>123821848
I have done on my original build and on my Arc build because I accidently killed plip plop. It was alright, it was a bit easier than playing through the first time damage-wise. I get it, some people love the challenge and beating everything on NG+ 7 which is cool, but I like just getting my builds down then wandering around co-oping and invading

>>123821825

That's nice dear. Are you done giving birth to a cord yet? I have an appointment and I murdered the whore for her shoes.

>>123822038
Moveset, speed, and damage

>>123821898
>he doesn't know it doesn't scale your weapon's upgrade level or gems
>implying inviting someone with experience isn't more valuable than straight up damage when carrying
Fucking retard.

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>>123821801
Forgot pic.

>>123822038
It has a really good moveset, especially the free dash with the r1 and free disengage with the transform

>>123821801
>Literally just a "ooh suprise!" there is nothing to his character at all.
you havent seen his questline?

>>123821697
Definitely true. DS2 tried to make a lot of things more interesting (especially with the build variety) and ended up fucking them all up in the process.

>>123821908
It's like Diablo but with actual gameplay, which is excellent imo. Maybe you don't like dungeon crawlers?

>>123822137
Haha got your booty sore? Talk about game skills when you clear the chalices small fry

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>>123821565
great character stories aren't just about dialogue anon

>>123822025
those giant hands really bother me

>>123822071

Yes. I am aware and I don't give a fuck. We saw none of that. He's just a dude who you kill. Much tragic, so sad. All that gets dumped in the span of like two seconds. You don't meet him earlier or his wife earlier. You don't see him and Henrick being awesome beforehand. It is all passive story. The best you can do is summon him if you are psychic or read a guide. He is not an interesting NPC, he is a prop.

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>>123821801
>IF I SIMPLIFY THEM THEY DONT MATTER
thats some wack logic yo

These Winter Lantern gems at orphan are garbage.

Is the secondary stat always random? Both the 22% gems I got have weapon durability down, I don't want that shit. Can I keep farming for better stats?

>>123822369
I think it's the angle of the hands. Lack of shading doesn't help.

>Laurence just wanted to be a doctor, healing people with the Blood
>tries shit out on his own sister, the absolute madman
>forms the Healing Church, since Willem told him to fuck off with that Old Blood nonsense
>accidentally discover Ebrietas
>form the Choir after she teaches them how to use the Blood to ascend
>sets up evil research labs and figure out how to get back to the fishing village by way of the Astral Clocktower
>get BTFO by Maria
>falls to Beasthood in the Hunter's Nightmare
talk about a corrupted purpose. Are there ANY researchers who didn't go batshit insane/corrupted by ambition?

>>123821659
well, enb shilled hard for ds2 before it came out, until everyone found out about the actual game and he had to litteraly do an 180 on the game. He alos have a bad habit of starting things and not finishing them, like his thought on the lore.

Spy hate things that are different, and things that are not DeS in general. Also "i dont want your money but give it to me i need it for a living".

Both of them also like to rant about "bad game design" while both their ideas are litteraly fucktarded.

The main problem is that since they worked in the guide they think they are "in" for some reasons and thus like to shill about muh miyazaki and Fromsoft

>>123822408
>you're aware and you don't give a fuck
So, you're aware that a good story exists, but because MUH DIALOGE you choose to discard it.
That's on you and only you, faggot.

>>123822326

No, but they need to have something happen. And really, is that fucking Annalise? The lady who says nothing about being brought back from the fucking dead. Great character stories are more that your headcannon...

>>123822414
You can get -kin or -beast damage on them so they don't impact you that much

Keep farming, best gems you can get outside of depth 5 chalices

>>123822414
All cursed gems have a negetive effect. You just gotta keep going until you get a decent combo.

>>123822492
>laurence discovered ebrietas
the church was started after he died iirc

>>123822414
Curse is random. You can get some that are like +3% stamina consumed which is fucking trivial, or -% damage vs. kin which has no effect like 95% of the time and is disastrous the other 5% of the time.

>>123822492
Who was Laurence's sister? Rom?

>>123822532
you forgot enb went to japan and talked to big M mang

>>123822559
>The lady who says nothing about being brought back from the fucking dead

You rewind time broski, you don't bring her back from the dead

I'm doing Amygdala in NF and would like some anons to join.

Password is: bbgee

Ringing in front of the fog gate.

>DLC didnt explain why there is a cord in the old hunters workshop

Fuck you From.

>>123822595
says who? Laurence split from Willem and took his followers with him to form the Healing Church. After he fell, his descendants used his skull in their rituals. It's like saying that Christianity didn't exist until after St. Peter died

>>123822559
pretty sure he meant alfred
also technically you 'rewind time' for annalise, so she doesn't know you resurrected her

>>123822410
>if i look really deep into this deep ass lore (so fucking deep mind you) I will be able to salvage these shitty npcs with my headcanon

No, fuck off.

Just finished my first playthrough and I have to ask, is that all? It reminded me a lot of dark souls 1 in that it shat the bed in the latter half and just stopped being fun. I imagine I would've been pretty upset if I had bought it on release, long before the DLC dropped. The DLC bosses were by far the best in the game and they were mostly excellent, but the base game was somewhat lacking in them. Even Ebrietas, who I've heard nothing but the highest praise for, was just another "dodge forward and hit R1 a couple of times over and over" bosses.

Most of the bosses outside of the DLC felt like they went down too fast. Also thank god I had the DLC. I was bored of the Kirk Hammer being literally the only strength weapon around by the time I reached Amelia and I probably would have lost interest in it entirely if the DLC hadn't dumped like 4 of them on my lap.

How are skill weapons? Is it worth doing another playthrough for a pure skill build or will I find it pretty much the same as my first playthrough?

>>123822559
Not him but you might be retarded

>>123822582
>>123822593
>>123822615
Cool thanks, first time farming gems.

>>123822738
I'll help out, just have to get there

>>123822545

Are you really calling "Man becomes monster and kills wife; child sad." a good story? It's at best somewhat sad backstory. And, again, the conversation was about good NPCs, a good with a backstory is not good character interaction if you don't interact with it. By that logic Destiny has the greatest story ever told from it's stupid cards.

>>123822743
It's from the baby the used to beckon MP. You gotta use you head for these theories dawg

>>123822408
your heart must be fucking stone for not feeling anything after knowing he (or the beast) kill her wife and his daughter die
or you might be to edgy to claim you feel something

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>>123821801
>He was ok, but there wasn't much too him but the huge surprise twist at the end (pic related).
>He never heard him cry in the back begging to be freed
>Despite his suffering he still thinks of the good hunter's future and will give him a way out.
You do realize that he is the most tragic character in Bloodborne and probably in all of souls? He's the only guy there who just wanted to help out despite all the shit he's been getting.

Why do you think the trophy for killing him is called honoring wishes?

>>123822839
Thanks, anon.

Anyone else? Still have another slot.

>>123822679
brah its not like the M man never gave interview.

I also try to keep this discution as civil as possible because deep down inside I like you guys.

Even if some of you like these faggots

>>123822674
No idea, iirc the brain fluid descriptions just mention that Laurence had a sister that he experimented on to figure out his treatments, with her consent. later, they both found the Eldritch Truth after they started practicing for real

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>>123822293
>Talk about game skills when you clear the chalices small fry
I've beaten them several times m8 on characters as low as BL43, it's really not a huge feat in the slightest and they don't in anyway mean you're a 'good player',

>>123822779
but thats every souls npc anon

>>123822840
You can break anything down into a few sentences and make it sound trivial, that's what people with no critical faculties do, and your definition of character interaction is arbitrary

>>123822414
the secondary effect is always random, sometimes you just get unlucky.

>>123822784
Bye

>>123822897
Sure, same boat as >>123822839
though. Let me finish Shadows and then I'll rush there.

>>123822902
yeah brother, some people go wild if you talk about youtube people.

>>123822947
If all you have ever played was DS2 and BB maybe.

>>123822993
Alrighty.

>>123822776

Alfred? I ignored him because that is even worse. "Hi I'm Alfred, lets be friends" to "Hi, I'm a fucking psychopath, blood for the blood god" in one interaction? Jesus Christ these are some low-ass standards.

>>123823019

This Dark Souls 1 was good and Dark Souls 2 was bad meme really has to die.

>>123822930
Well done, you must have an impressive penis.

>>123823019
Das1 had pretty shit npcs beyond 2 of them.

Do you get anything from keeping NPCs alive through boss fights? Valtr keeps dying to Laurence, and my Choir Bell doesn't help much since I have low Arcane.

>>123823019
I have never played ds2

>>123822784
>in the latter half and just stopped being fun
The stuff after Rom is the best part of the game

>How are skill weapons
>or will I find it pretty much the same as my first playthrough?
SKL plays very differently from STR, you got next to no hyperarmor on your moves so enemies can combo you to death easily, you also have minimal stagger so you are forced to go for viscerals whenever you can.

>>123822840
A story is not all about coming straight out to you. You've already explainex your problem. You actually want a jprg approach where everything is spelled out to you and the characters involve you step by step . That's your problem. That's not how these games work.
And it's not at all like Destiny. The story can all be found in game rather than on a third party website.

>>123822962

Defining character interaction as interaction with characters is arbitrary? Are you retarded?

>>123823069
>that absolute falicious understanding of his storyline
lmao
m
a
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maybe it's just too deep for you B^)

>>123823098
The Dark Souls 2 was good meme needs to die also.

>>123821337
anyone got this?

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>>123822559
It was a bit of a let down, but it makes sense since she went back in time. She's one of my favorites though, I like characters that are built up as villains, but then don't appear so.

>>123823069
You're a retard, you know nothing of character/world building and your overly-simplified descriptions show just how small your thinking is.

>>123816389

Rites dont do jack shit then but increase difficulty? I can just create a normal easy Ihyll dungeon and get top tier gems?

>>123823035
Never mind, got burned to death. Heading to Nightmare Frontier now.

>>123823236
That image fucking blows, why do you care?

How does one git gud a parrying without getting hit?
It seems impossible.

Here me out, anons:

What if Byrgenwerth's experiments, and the Orphan of Kos in the fishing village were a result of Rom? As in, Byrgenwerth found the Village, and Rom was granted Eyes by being birthed by the body of Kos. Byrgenwerth then responded by experimenting on people, and trying the same process again with the Orphan, in an attempt to figure out how to mass-produce the phenomenon?

Only, the Orphan didn't take too kindly to their experiments, and so pulled the Village into the Nightmare, so they wouldn't be able to hurt those people again.

>>123823209
You want step by step interaction. That doesn't happen in these games. You have explained that that is your preference. It doesn't happen that way. Everything you've said is tainted by this bias.

>>123823270
>Rites dont do jack shit then but increase difficulty
They are talking about Blood Rocks and not gems

>>123823319
Just keep practicing and you'll get it eventually. There's that one moment when it clicks and bam you are pretty consistent with parrying

>>123823319
you shoot before they hit you
how is this something you need to ask unless you mean another player, which is more about predicting due to latency

>>123822840
>Are you really calling "Man becomes monster and kills wife; child sad." a good story?

Yes, it can be. How can that not make a good story? If you generalize it like some kind of retard, then yes it won't sound as good.

>>123823302
Alright. We're both here and waiting. Password is: bbgee

>>123823257
>Maria is a distant relative of the Queen
>has flaming blood and all sorts of anime powers in her fight
I can't imagine the type of absolute madwoman that Annalise would be if she decided to fight you

>>123823225

I hate Vilebloods. Is that an Invitation. I killed the Villeblood. Now I can die.

You don't even have a chance to say, "Hey, I killed your mentor man." "And, like, how old are you? It looked like he's been here a while."