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Previous Thread : >>123716945

Monster Miku edition

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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>>123753569
1st for demons
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>>123753493
I'm excited for the lower exp rate. Demon prison will have to change its name to "Hell on earth"
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>>123753674
Well why are you posting a goddess
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Normal OOB calculation = (mATK + 70 - mDEF) * 1.5

Buffed OOB calculation = ((mATK * 2) + 70 - mDEF) * 1.5
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>>123753718
to show their superiority
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Cleric C2 Krivis C2 Sadhu C2 is the best build for Sadhu, Druid is garbage.
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Glackuman up ch1
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nth for I wish the game stops stuttering every time more than ten things is moving on screen
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>>123753928
do not bully druids!
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>>123753928
What's the best build for Druid?
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What's up with the stutter during barb skills? Is it just me?
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>>123754142
you pick druid
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Someone build me a hunter reiter
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>>123754154
Game stutters when everything with too much flash, physics movements and shit. I wish we could turn off the auras, lights and flying rocks
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>>123754154
lag cause the overkill sprites jumps around the fucking screen and there's like 40 sprites teleporting everywhere everytime you overkill
also cause they hit multiple times in a short span
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>>123754117
>>123754263
Play in low-performance mode.
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>>123754142
literally anything and then druid at rank 6
most of cleric's other rank 6 options are putrid garbage
the entire class is just carnivory so you can use it with about any class since you're only a druid once every 30 seconds
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>>123754209
>hunter reiter
You need to be mounted to use Reiter skills, and you can't use Hunter skills while mounted. What are you doing anon
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>>123754324
Well?
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>>123754309
>>123754294
>>123754263
Turn off water, environment effects, sounds and high setting in the user.xml
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>>123754450
Turn off the fucking game.
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>>123754142
Doesn't matter, Druid is a R6 class, most R6 classes will be overshadowed by R7 and R9's. You're better off choosing C2 on Cleric or Krivis if you're going Sadhu. Monk and Paladin builds don't synergize well with Druid. Maybe Bokors I don't know
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>>123754515
C2 Falconer is gonna be op
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>>123754420
Well what you fucking sandwich
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Any good Rogue build or should I just go
Doppelsoeldner instead?
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>>123754790
I was sure these are different trees
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So Ranger3 gets good right?
Ranger2 is just sad.
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>>123754790
meme
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/2dkz18kv67/
>>123754936
spiral arrow is sex and bounce shot is silly but fun
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>>123755042
But but missing out on scout wont be a problem?
I thought you would want the cloaking.
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Can you come up with a worse swordsman build?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/l8mq79qo2h/
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why does the archer tree have like 5 different skills that are all basically oblique shot?
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is archer tree really that bad?
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>>123755282
Nah
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>>123755262
I'm bored
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/i171c5phrd/
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>>123738745
These are basically on the user.xml, no need to get some program for this
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>>123755203
What good is Cloaking besides running through stuff? That 50% bonus damage every 35 seconds isn't as useful as it would seem when you're literally grinding thousands of mobs. Unless you're one of those people that >PvP.
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I have more keys to trade for in game money, if anybody would like.
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>>123755574
How can you disable the minimap stuff using the user.xml?
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>>123755606
Doesn't that also only work on the first hit?
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>>123755574
Yeah, but then how would they attention whore in /tosg/ about their cool l33t hacker programming skillz?
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>>123755606
Yes, I might be playing some pvp and cloak is good for getting behind enemies and getting my backstab bonus.
In that case going RangerC2 Scout is any good?
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>>123755695
Ranger C2 is terrible really.
Either C1 or C3 with ranger
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>>123755497
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/dfkci5sss2/
i think i've got you beat
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>>123755695
Ranger is a C1 or C3 class. I don't think they're gonna implement arenas during this beta so do whatever you want.
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>>123755762
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/zi35ui8muo/
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>>123755282
It's bad if it's your first character.
If you have enough money to pump to them then you can sail through the hard part and get good at rank 5/6
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>>123755937
>>123755762
Is falconer really that shit?
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>>123755982
it's very shit, yes
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>>123755982
its got a great outfit
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Found a recipe for elder rod on my level 80 cryo. Keep it or sell it?
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>>123755982
They're cute
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>Quarrel Shooter's Running Shot is just an improved version of Archer's Swift Step.

>Ranger's Spiral Arrow is just an improved version of Quarrel Shooter's Rapid Fire.

>Scout's Split Arrow is just an improved version of Archer's Oblique Shot.

>Fletcher's Singijeon is just an improved version of Sapper's Collar Bomb, which is an improved version of Ranger's Time Bomb Arrow.

Get your shit together IMC.
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>>123756361
Split Arrow is Oblique Shot with better damage.
Bounce Shot is Oblique Shot with better aoe.

You can really tell that IMC wasn't trying with the Archer tree.
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For archers/rangers are you going full str, full dex or hybrid?
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>>123756430
Hybrid leaning towards str.
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>>123754450
That helped, now if only I can turn off the auras
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>>123756430
2:1 str dex
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>>123756019
Please elaborate
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rip
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>lured mobs
>some wiz linked them
>proceed to kill them
>call me a kill stealer
What the fuck
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>>123757035
triggered
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can i really visit other people's lodge?
i get black screen everytime i tried.
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>>123757035
Who /onlyplaysonecharacter/ here
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T-this is kind of hot
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>>123757218
I just want to see if I can get my ideal gear and enough silver to get several attributes maxed before the beta ends. An alchemist friend of mine refuses to make another character because they have more fun jewing
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>>123757271
>durning an emergency
ayy we /engage/ now
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>Harugals are plate
>I deal 4k with every broom trap (strike, 545 power) crit rotation on them
>7k with every Spiky shooter (835, pierce) crit hit
>3k+ with every Collar Bomb (1201, strike) crit hit
There's something very wrong there
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At what point do you stop running the 130 dungeon for levels and go get EXP elsewhere?
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>>123758002
145 go to prison
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>>123758002
140 ish
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>>123758002
145 I guess, maybe a bit later. By thn, you should be able to go to demon prison too
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who the fuck is killing starving ellaganos on gabija
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>>123758051
>>123758056
>>123758070
I'm 147 now. Maybe I'll head to demon dicks after doing all the quests around my level.
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>>123758131
That's what I did, going 24/7 demon prison is boring.
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>>123757271
I want to see every costume's flavor text
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>>123758081
it literally broadcasts a message when it spawns nigga, it ain't hard
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Linker c3 is such shit.
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>>123758416
B-but much Lifeline
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>>123758416
but all dose links
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Where did all the hat go? There's like only 26 pages
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>Zettai Ryouiki meets Absolute Territory
Well this is weird

>Sword2 Highlander3
weird

>And she ignores me
now this is awkward
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>>123758724
Maybe she's going Doppel and doesn't like any of the Rank 5 classes.
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>>123756361
>Ranger's Spiral Arrow is just an improved version of Quarrel Shooter's Rapid Fire.
No, they're different

>Fletcher's Singijeon is just an improved version of Sapper's Collar Bomb, which is an improved version of Ranger's Time Bomb Arrow.
No, and no

I'd like to test Split Arrow, though. anyone have vid featuring scout3 ?
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>>123758510
>average stats for everyone because muh sekret build
>int for barbarians, str and dex for mages, spr for channelers, con doesnt heal
>needs spiritual chain that shares buffs, no daino = rip
Only will work in static group.
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>>123758779
Or doing what Jinsee did with his Fencer
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>>123758923
con for linkers
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>>123758923
I'd like to see a Hop>Dopp/Corsair with the int attribute hooked up to that
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>>123758779
Oh, that makes sense
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What a nice alch, selling her goods for cheap
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>>123759058
>linked to a 500 int sorc
>+50 damage
wow!!!
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>>123759195
Ah fuck. I thought it was a 100% add from int
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>>123759195
pls nerf
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>doing my daily 2 solo runs at lv130 dg
>mineloader purple laser can kill summon familiar's bats

w-wow, I really thought they couldn't be killed
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I really don't think the Necronomicon needs four card slots. It should probably just be similar to the Grimoire
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>>123756142
Why does everyone use an elder rod anyway?
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>>123759380
The original idea is to mix and match different cards to get a new one. They opted for a placeholder shoggoth instead.
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>>123759471
+61 Fire Attack awakening
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>>123759532
does it get stronger if you level up cards?
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>>123759532
Well, even in this version the only slot that changes anything whatsoever is the fourth. The other three slots don't actually change Shoggoth's stats.

If you put a level 1 card in slot four, the whole thing just gets the level 1 card's stats even if you had level 4 in the other three slots. If you put the level 1 in those slots and 4 in the fourth, it gets the level four's stats. It's a cool idea but as things are they could at least average out the slots for a stat difference
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>>123759569
Oh right, the one with + int base is Arch rod. I meant to ask why people use an Arch Rod.
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>>123759670
Quick-swap before using summoning if they are sorcerers
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Just saw a Necromancer today with his skull soldiers and a flaming something. It looks cool
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>Empty Klaipeda channel 1
u all at the church fàms?
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>>123758368
Here's a couple from my character
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Is dispeller works vs telepath,telekinesis? Or only vs freeze?
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>>123760560
>Thaumatuges can rip their clothes off if they fuck up their swelling
>Also, Thaumaturge's master doesn't use the traditional clothing

My mind is running wild now
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>>123760560
>sorc costume
>battle optimized
yeah ok
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>>123760560
>It's very much justified

Makes you wonder how they summon those demons.
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>>123760753
>if one thinks about the creature they have to deal with, it is justified
Monster dickings confirmed
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>>123760756
change their name to Cummoner
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>>123760753
Dumbo, they have an opening in front because they have to ride monsters.
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>>123760560

Might as well chip in.
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>>123760871
What are you talking about.
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thaum using swell chest on a male sorc
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Just got to Dick Prison, where should i head? Straigh to distric3? Are there rooms with better monsters?
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>>123760940
FACK YOU
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>>123760560
>>123760910
Guess I'll throw this in, since my other costumes were posted already
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>>123760973
>>123761010
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>>123760560
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>>123758368
here's mine
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>>123759775
>>123759775
Anyone help me with this please?
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That broken market though. It's like when you request the list of items, the servers goes through every channel to build a list but stops at your current channel, so to see all items you have to go to channel 20.
See minivern skins in ch1 and ch20.

Unless it's only me and my game is somehow bugged.
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What's a good Fletcher path? I'm not sure if to take circles of hunter or sapper in the middle.
Archer2 > Hunter2 > Fletcher
Archer2 > Sapper2 > Fletcher
Archer2 > Hunter > Sapper > Fletcher
Both Hunter and Sapper skills look like they could be useful, I'm not thinking Ranger because Fletcher looks to have low cooldowns so I wouldn't be using the Ranger attacks much?
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>>123761398
Just keep switching channels until its populated enough. I usually just check the hp pots if there's more than 4 pages to see if I got most of the list
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Shit game
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>>123758368
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>>123761398
I wouldn't doubt that's how they'd do it.
>>123761386
Yes, put it in the hotkey.xml file near the end.

>>123761427
Never take only 1 Sapper. Always take 2.
Archer2Sapper2 is good for fletcher.
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>>123760560
Here's mine.
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Cleric or krivis for bokor?
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Shitter incoming
>horses
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>>123761491
>petalsta
>they care more about flaunting their battle actions

S-Sluts!
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>>123761491
>flaunting their battle actions
>versatile leg movement

Lewd
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What's the best build leading up to a fencer?
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>>123761021
>sombre
isn't the word somber? Also necromancer outfit sure rattles my bone!
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>>123760560
Sorcs confirmed for demon fuckers.
Well they have to tame them one way or another
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>>123761859
a lot of /h/ and /d/ has proven that riding demon/monster cock is the best way to tame them
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>>123761814
Can't expect much from a lack of quality control in translations
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>>123762047
Yes, it's a bit like americans wondering is "colour" is a misspelling of color.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxTPxkplYkM

I'm done with CBT.
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>>123761005
Pls respond.

Also what the fuck with Hohen Orben.
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>>123762146
So Ele presses a lot of buttons but doesn't do much damage? Ah, lame.
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Contributing to the costumes.
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>>123761506

pls respond
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>>123762420
I hate that I don't like QS as a class but the outfit is so good.
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Defaults costumes aren't actually items ;_;
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>>123762575
That means all fresh characters run around naked!
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>>123762575
I just noticed the paladin outfit is slightly different in the picture than on the character model. The character model has a cute little bow at the base of the hood instead of that ornament.
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I haven't played since FO4 came out. Did anything worth knowing change aside from the extension/xp rates?
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>>123761814
>>123762047
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sombre
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>>123763150
okay so both are correct, for non native speaker american english and english english can get weird.
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>>123762567
the girl one sure the guy one ehhh not so much
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Why all costumes have women sprites?
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>>123763310
Not really, re-er ending difference is a quite common occurence, if you research a bit about these little things you'll see the patterns

t. non-native speaker
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>>123763461
Because it uses the version your character is set to. If a male character had viewed them it would show the male version like >>123760940
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>>123763461
You mean, the ones posted in this thread? Isn't the answer obvious?
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>http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/16500/
The priest isn't giving me this quest and this gigantic transformed plant is here, how do I trigger it?
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>>123763618
>>123763580
Why are you all playing women?
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>>123763816
I like women.
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>>123763816
I'm not. Women are cute though
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>>123763816
Because I am a terrible person. Also somewhere in my mind, my class decision is cuter as a female while had I gone for Fencer like I almost did, I'd have played a male
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>>123763816
I like women
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>>123763816
This comes up in every MMO. I've played I always answer the same thing.

"You're gonna stare at your characters ass for the whole game, at least make the view beautiful"
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>>123763816
Normally I play dudes and my first character was, but honestly I gotta see more pantsu.
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>>123761484
>Yes, put it in the hotkey.xml file near the end
Thank you, I've got it to work now but what are the controls to zoom in and out? Arrow Keys just rotate the view and WASD just moves the view.
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>>123763816
Because like all the rest people who play female characters, I love to act like a female. That or erp or jerking off to my character.
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>>123764038
Just move the camera forward?
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Which one of these is less shit?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/hfha1xx4e4/
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/g515z21ax9/
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>>123764094
I'm looking for the zoom in and out button. Like I said Arrow Keys and WASD doesn't zoom.
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>>123764151
ok champ
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>>123763816
I only make male characters if there's an afro.
Otherwise i might aswell make a cute girl.
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>>123764151
Q and E are the zoom in and out.
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>>123764578
Thanks a bunch.
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>>123764578
Q and E are Up and Down. There's no need for zoom, just place the camera however you want.
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>>123764101
Does Paladin's recovery work in combat? If it just adds a recovery aura that only works when you're not attacking like CON/SPR do then... boy that class looks like absolute shit.
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>>123764923
>Does Paladin's recovery work in combat?
no
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>>123764923
>t. shitter
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>>123764101
priest-priest-pal3
priest-priest-priest-monk2

choose wisely
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I've become really confused as to all the options for swordsmen. All of their skills are mostly physical attacks which is fine, but how can you tell which ones are worth it over others?

I'm looking a tthe skill builder and working with my c1 pelt, and I just am at a loss for what to put points into that will help whatever I end up choosing.

Dopel and Corsair don't really interest me.
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Can Cleric 3's Guardian spirit castable on non party members? The skill kinda seems trolly.
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>>123764101
monk is really really boring btw
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>>123764923
It doubles the amount of bonfire regeneration, and adds 50 SP regeneration at just 1 point. It's a skill you put one point in and just use on cooldown. Paladin does suck ass, but it's not because of Regeneration. Smite and Regeneration are currently the only reasons to take the class.

Barrier straight up doesn't work most of the time, enemies walk right through it and they removed the attribute that gave +100% stabbing damage and +100% magic damage.

Conviction is bad, has a nice animation and very slightly increases magic damage enemies take. The cooldown is too long and the magic resistance debuff only lasts 5 seconds, but it's literally the only other attack paladins have.

Most of the time I'll lay a conversion down and it'll go the full duration without converting anything, even if it does convert something it'll just stand in one spot until I leave the area.

Resist Elements is great. If it had 100% uptime, it would be insane.

Turn Undead isn't even worth talking about, I've used it a massive amount of times and it has only worked a few times. The enemies I turned undead also never dropped anything, silver or loot, and I don't know if that's a bug or a feature.
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>>123765226
Swordie branch feels pretty fucked up to me.

All you really need for damage are multi hits so hoplite seems mandatory by default, then either a high leveled cata since their skills seems to gain a few more hits as you progress, a corsair for hexen dropper and autos or dopple for cyclone.

No idea about fencers but it seems they have some multi hit so they probably don't completely sucks.
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>>123765226
Swordsman tree in general isn't that interesting. Just pick whatever fancies you. But Doppels and Corsair C2 are the usual late game. You could check Fencer, highlander could work and barb for crits and slash damage to compliment its boost on slash and pierce skills. Maybe hop too, but you'd be abandoning finestra for a rapier
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If I start grinding now, do you think (with the current exp rates) I could reach Fencer? I'd probably make the character on Gabija this time around just to see the community over there, so I'd have those rates in my favour, too
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>>123765637
Go Pelt1>Barb3 and you'll make it in time.
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>>123765637
You have far more than enough time.
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>>123765637
you might, will depend on your playtime
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>>123765637
Yeah, you can do it. It doesn't take long at all to reach Rank 6 now.
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>>123765735
>>123765740
>>123765756
>>123765779
Welp, time to start, then. Thanks
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>>123765735
I hope Fencer got other classes to synergize with aside from Barb
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how are skill enhance attributes used in the damage formula again? I want to test some shit
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>>123765637
What server are you currently on?
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>>123766069
the problem with barb is it synergizes with everything
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>>123766069
currently? peltasta, barb and hoplite1 seem only ones but when they release more ranks I think it goes great with corsair.
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>>123766160
Laima
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>>123766185
>hoplite1
Why.
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>>123766271
stabbing and pierce can be used with all weapons.
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Welp, Brandish does exist.
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Guys I had a thought, say after the initial launch hype ends and people see that ToS is just another casual grindfest.

How will it keep new players if there's no incentive to revisit areas or even party with lower leveled players? Does that mean everyone is just going to have to solo for months to catch up?
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>>123766362
Base game is addicting, game forces you to reroll alts. So there will always be people levelling
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>>123765637
yes
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Is there any 1 circle class I can take in swordsman after Hoplite 3? I want to go Pelt > Hoplite 3 > X but I'm not interested in Doppel. Would it be okay to take a circle in Catapharact?
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>>123766324
Seems like a waste for Finestra.
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>>123766578
Squire
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>>123766578
Sure. But don't expect to be on par with Rank5/6 classes
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>>123766578
Cata or Corsair
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>>123766249
Similar. However I'm unsure as to why you wish to create an unfunded character
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>>123766628
yeah but it's an option and stabbing is strong as fuck when used with fencer lunge
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>>123766578
Squire or Cataphract.
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The other day someone told me cata is 100% useless compared to hoplite, how true is that?
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>>123766328
Would it be possible to click the recipe and take a screenshot of the item?
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>>123766773
Sword/Pelt/Hop/Barb2/Fencer? And how long does Attaque's bonus pierce damage last?
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>>123766824
Not true at all. Cataphract > Hoplite in every aspect.
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>>123766751
I'm quite fond of grinding from scratch when I make a new character, as opposed to an assisted grind (outside of the difference in exp rates, anyway) but I also just want to see the different players over on Gabija
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>>123766824
Underwhelming/10
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>>123766875
Do not go Hoplite if you're going Fencer.
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>>123766875
at rank 5 it's 10 seconds and it's not really bonus damage, it straight up removes enemies pierce defense.

>>123767001
Also what this guy said, it's more of an experiment or such, it might be great but I have no idea. barb 3 is safest bet.
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>>123766875
Dont go Hoplite if you're going Fencer, just go Pelt>Barb3 and stack evasion. You dont need Spear Lunge if you have Attackque Conquile.
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>>123766875
I don't see why you'd go Hoplite.
Sure, it has some nice piercing attacks but Fencer already has a shitload of piercing attacks.
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How the fuck is this possible, he socketed the shit without losing potential.
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>>123767245
Some items come pre-socketed, usually field boss weapon drops are pre-socketed.
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>>123767092
There is no reason to take Hoplite 1. Finestra only works with spears and having 5 levels in stabbing is not worth it at all. Fencer's Lunge will make Seism and Cleave hit even harder, which means it makes sense to take 3 ranks in Barb.
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>>123767245
I want that so bad on my paladin. I don't do damage anyway, might as well be completely immune to damage.
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>>123767414
which foe drops a sagewall?
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>>123767740
I'm pretty sure the recipe drops off random monsters in the Mauseleum. It costs a fuckload to craft though.
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I'm doing it on release and no one can stop me!
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/uli7qsx1zc/
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>>123767867
he said that sage wall came pre-socketed from a field boss. if it came from a recipe and he socketed it. it has to lose potential.
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>>123767740
None to my knowledge.

>>123767984
Actually, I didn't. All I said was that some items can come pre-socketed.
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>>123766328
And ofcourse that fag wont tell where he got it?
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>>123768053
how'd he do it then
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>>123768162
Maybe Sage Wall has a socket already when you craft it?

I wouldn't know, I've never crafted the item before.
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>>123768053
>>123767740
At least bother to check the database.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/recipes/31020/
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>>123766981
To be honest, I'm considering doing the same thing. However I'm debating whether a non funded archer is going to be too harsh
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>>123768220
I don't recall seeing a socket when I crafted it.
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>>123768259
I did, no foe drops a Sage Wall directly. The recipe however drops like you've shown.
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>>123768259
doesn't answer how he got a soocket without losing potential
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>>123766845
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>>123768139
the wiki is correct on item drop. confirremd. seller is stilll farming those stupid statue things
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>>123767245
welp, guess theres a potenital exploit floating around i knew that +32 ignition was unnatural
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So now that the beta's almost over, rate the classes in terms of the amount of fun you've had playing them.

Swordsman > Archer > Cleric = Wizard
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>>123768375
I know how but I'm not gonna tell you.
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>>123768687
Shtayim lvl 89???
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>>123762146
>>123762284
Soloing world boss?
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>>123769102
thats lvl 190 dung boss , any ranged can solo him - melee not so sure.
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>>123768686
>Large
>322
Christ
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>>123754142
Full Support lead up for Rank 9

Cleric 1/2 > Dievdirby/Priest 1/2 > Krivis 1/2 > Druid 2 > Shepherd
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This is what I have so far... still leveling.
Any idea what class I should take next?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/tigdn6gpdl/

I'm thinking of Wugu next
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>>123768758
Wizard > Swordsman > Archer > Cleric

I got a paladin to to rank 6, two wizards to rank 6, and two archers to rank 5 and a C3 hoplite to rank 5. 500 hours played. I will be playing Thaumaturge next beta.
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>>123768758
Wizard > Archer = Cleric > Swordie
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>>123770181
>ArcherC3
Reroll
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>>123770380
No way, I love this shit.
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>>123770181
wugushi is the only sane option, I believe, maybe scout
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>>123760560
>linker
NOTHING AT ALL
NOTHING AT ALL
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GM confirmed Deeds of Valor not increasing attack speed is a bug
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>>123761491
>>123761753
Jokes on you, Hoplite girls wear long johns, it's incredibly conservative wear. Literally the only skin they show is their face.
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>>123770505
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Remember to wear animal ears if you want to be /cute/
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>>123770505
>Krivis have those cross' on their boobs.
I want to touch those cross.
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>>123758859
Here is a video of split shot
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How do you animation cancel hangman's knot?
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>>123771161
Same as anything else, jump.
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>Kill boss
>Chronomancer brings it back to life
>Kill boss again
>Get two boxes

Okay that is cool.
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>afk in some desolated place
>somehow likes increased
stop liking me faggots
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>>123765226
You gotta read more of the descriptions. As for Peltasta, their big damage comes from attacking enemies that you just blocked (particularly with Umbo, which has "increased" damage on such enemies). I have a Pelta>Hoplite 3, my umbo crits still one-shot enemies that I block all the time.

It makes me realize that Peltastas that run around using Umbo blow raw on enemies are just wasting damage efficiency.

The other swordsman classes also have their own unique flavor to their attacks. Except for vanilla swordy, there's really no good reason to stay swordsman.
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>>123771302
Are you planning on going Doppel?
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>>123768686
A level 170 spear drops off a n 89 mob?

Its taken more than 30 days for someone to drop this form them? Even though Veniere and Sage Walls are all over the place?

How come I don't believe this.
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>>123770181
Why not Quarrel?
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You can tell a lot about a player's personality just by looking at their costumes.


A male wearing a barbarian for instance is guaranteed to be a colossal, aggressive retard.
Highlanders are generally cute, innocent and very naive.
A girl wearing peltasta's is one of those people who will do things like leg lock you and bully you for being a pathetic shy virgin who has no idea how to please a woman.
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>>123771302
Do you press block first then after succeeding block, use Umbo Blow? This is my first time hearing blocked enemies are suddenly vulnerable to it.
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>>123771194

Tried that already but nothing happens. I'm on keyboard mode.
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>>123771520
More
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>>123771414
Yeah, as soon as I heard that Doppel attacks don't require any particular weapon stance, I figured having cyclone on my attack rotation would be pretty badass.

>>123771521
It says so in the skill description, just not in the clearest language.
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>>123771520
You can tell a lot about someone by their posting style as well.
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>>123771242
I bet they're going to nerf that too

>>123771254
/pol/ please stay
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>>123771461
Not interested in it. Wugu seems like it'd benefit me the most and it sounds fun.
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>>123771520
>A girl wearing peltasta's is one of those people who will do things like leg lock you and bully you for being a pathetic shy virgin who has no idea how to please a woman.

PETALSTA FEMDOM + FOOT FETISH DOUJINS PLEASE.
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>>123771120
Oh, it looks awesome. Just add some good equip to it, and level attributes. I don't know, maybe Scout3 IS the best Archer class now.

Though, i love my Stone Shot now. Im not sure what will be better - stone or split. But Split have +600+ power, and 200% bounce. And only 37 SP cost. Really cool.
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I'm lost. How the hell do I suck demon dicks at Demon Prison 2? This maze shit is horrible compared to how simple Demon Prison 1 District 2 was with its spots.
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>>123771520
I'm very interested in this, What can you tell me about Quarrel Shooter.
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>>123771748
every room with big trees
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>>123771627
I'd say wugu benefits the most from Archer3, though I can't say for certain since I didn't plow my way through Archer3 myself.
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>>123771748
I stayed at Demon prison 1 at floor 2 all the way until level 165, I doubt it matters much which one you grind in.
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>>123771748

Just learn the portals and rotate between the big areas with trees, don't bother with the rest of mobs
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>mfw joined a party where the squire uses repair every chance he gets
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So how exactly do I activate the hidden quest on the 4th floor of the royal mausoleum?
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ahh fucking help
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>>123771820
I'm just waiting for them to release rank 7 for me to make my dream archer build

archer>quarrel shooter 2>wugushi 2>rogue 2
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>>123771602
>It says so in the skill description, just not in the clearest language.
I was kind of confused with this, I thought Umbo Blows animation is enabling you to guard mode before spinning to hit. I guess I got it wrong, so I might as well just use the block attribute skill to enable guard and get higher block success then just use umbo after that.
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>>123772012
Just use the teleport stone, or oob skills wont stop if youre clipped inside the space?
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>>123771521
I didn't get your question completely. Basically, as soon as you see the "BLOCKED" text over your heard, one of the enemies attacking how has been staggered. This is visually shown as them flashing green (this also happens to you when an enemy blocks your attack, try attacking a hogma as an archer). Your umbo blow will now deal additional damage. I don't know the duration of stagger, however. It doesn't seem to show as a debuff, but it does seem to last a second or two.

As long as the mobs you're gathering up don't use magic attacks (unblockable shits), you can block, mash umbo, and jump to cancel the recovery and block again. Once umbo is on C/D, I either use Rim Blow in the same manner, or just jump-attack in a circle.
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>>123772262
you can cast oob and it moves the set distance it does every time, can't move it, can prakriti to it
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>>123772012
You should ask those people for help
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>>123771520

Not OP but let me add something

A girl wearing Cataphract's is someone who is in a state of dilemma. While she adores her armor and the speed boost that she has acquired, she's uncertain on how she will position herself riding on such strange mounts all the while, making sure that "everything" underneath her armor is kept intact

>Horseback
JUST
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>>123772157
It also encourages you to get the attribute that increases your defense while guarding, and getting the stun attribute for umbo.

It also means that using High Guard + the Umbo/Rim attributes gives a full tank Peltasta a good source of damage, as long as there are blockable attacks.

The only reason I haven't tried a Pelta3 build is because it's such a fucking chore to deal with ranged/magic mobs. Maybe if I can get a linker to be my bitch, I'll try it at some point...
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>>123771797
The bigger the better, huh.

>>123771845
I'm seriously considering this, even with the exp penalty, staying at DP1 with the double exp won't matter that much I guess.

>>123771845
Boring, even more if you're soloing, but I'll see what I can do, thanks.
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>>123772541
i'm happy that people are using the pic i posted

best bako for casual sex
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>>123772628
Well I was a bokor so it was easy for me, it still only took me maybe 20 minutes to get from 164 to 165 at that point.
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>>123771985
rolling a squire was the best thing I ever did. I opened a weapon maintenance shop in demon prison and I'm rolling in dosh.
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>market keeps eating my recipes
market stop it
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>>123772624
Yeah I've already maxed the attributes up, maybe I should replace Gung-ho with High Guard? As a full STR Pelt-Hop, things started to hurt me on my way to Royal Masoleum 4F - 5F.
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Any lvl 10 weapon buff up on gab?
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>>123771704
Heres split shot again with a little better gear and more attribute points in it
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>>123771845
>>123772628

Unless you can clear out the Harugal rooms quickly, you're going to get less than half the exp/hour in demon prison 1 compared to 2. Harugals give 3,084 base exp, and the trees in demon prison 2 give 4,734.
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>>123771767
Someone wearing an archer or quarrel shooter will be very meek from dozens of hours spent being bullied and left out of groups. The moment you give them any praise they will latch onto you and might start to fall in love.
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>>123772992
I stayed in the guardian spider room because the harugals killed my zombies too fast.
That's the same reason I didn't go to demon prison 2 and kill trees.
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>>123772706
I'm a Sorc, so I'm right behind you on who can clean the room faster. I'll just stay here a little more (maybe till 163, 161 now) and go back to DP1.

>>123772992
Thanks for the info, as I stated above, I can.
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>>123772891
woops
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>>123768758

Cleric>wizard>swordsman>>>>>>>>>archer
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>>123773148
It's bouncing stronger now.

Still, you need Crossbow 10+, Karacha dagger++, Full STR, FullMemeGear. and maybe some green gems into weapon/subweapon for critrate. Then it will be some good one.
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>>123771451
>sage wall
Simple fact, that people kill venucelos while waiting for the cereberus timer

You really have no reason to stick on 3f other than grinding at vikaras
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>>123773612
People have killed the things on the 3F for over a month and you're telling me no one has found this?

No one farms the shitty yellow candles and yet that rapier isn't rare.

I would like some proper evidence that a shitty level 89 mob drops a 6 star level 170 weapon.

I know I've killed over 1500 of them thinking it dropped the recipe when the beta started and I have two other friends who killed the same if not more.
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>>123773778
the drop rate might be bugged or tosbase might have the wrong drop rate
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>>123771520
Tell me about hoplite and elementalist.
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>>123772858
I would recommend only using High Guard when you're in a party for the sake of becoming the ultimate tank. You'll need Gung Ho for grinding and questing, and there will be plenty of enemies that you can't block easily, and you'll just have to take advantage of damage types (umbo/rim for strike-weak enemies, auto-attack for slash-weak enemies, lvl1 thrust for pierce) and auto-attacking, which Gung Ho will help with, particularly if you max the attribute. The defense-loss from Gung Ho is easily made up for with your defensive attributes, so just use it whenever you're soloing.
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>>123773923
>>123773778
you guys do know there is a simple solution to your problem ask the kill rank 1 on your server if he dropped a brandish
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>>123774239
No one on this server has dropped it. Already spoke to the top 3.
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Have you guys tried googling the Korean name? maybe something will pop up.
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>>123772767
>notice items are gone
>go to ch 19 market
>they're there
>get them off
>put them on ch 1
>log off
>log in again
>they're on ch 19 again
Fuck you market, why won't you let me jew on this cbt
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>>123774296
maybe RNGesus answered his prayers, though if the guys at top 3 don't have it might probably drop someplace else
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>>123771520
>don't wear my barb or corsair outfit
>barb outfit makes me feel lewd since I'm showing so much skin
>corsair outfit makes me feel like I'm trying too hard to be a pirate when I don't feel like one

Swordsman outfit it is.
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Sometimes I wish a peltasta would get me drunk at the local inn and drag me to her room for aggressive cockriding femdom.

But that's just me.
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>>123774126
High Guard really disappointed me. For the huge penalties it has, it only has 50% uptime and the block boost seems to be calculated last instead of being added to your base block. So simply pressing guard already surpasses it by the time you get it and going Hoplite for Finestra is a better block boost.
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>>123773778
I might actually just spend the rest of the cbt killing shtayim the rest of the cbt this info might be serious dosh
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>Friend list is cross-server
Well, then
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>>123770961

scary smile is all i see now.
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Fucking rekt
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>>123774642
Well, finestra adds block%, while high guard adds a block value, and gives you huge umbo/rim damage through attributes. I don't really understand how the flat number block values work, though.
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>>123774954
>I never wanted to party with you anyway, baka
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>>123774859
Really? Someone add Tuppin
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>>123772880
I'm camping in Demon Prison but I could relocate, I've been there for a full day now.
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>>123774859
Shit, does this mean all the servers are IN one HARDWARE. Explains the lag across all servers
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>>123775132
1 or 2?
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>>123775229
No. Do you think physical machines can't communicate between each other?
>>
http://strawpoll.me/6025979
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>>123775374
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>>123775098
>>123775229
Seems like it. I have the exact same friend list of Laima players on my Gabija character. I also have the same 19 likes despite only being 27
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>>123775368
dunno not really a computer person
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>>123775445
I'm guessing you have to be on the same server when you add friends, then it will track them if you or they change servers.
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>>123775374
>tfw someone from /tosg/ actually took my virginity in-game
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>>123775359
1, before the 4 rooms.
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FUCKING WENDIGO SHITS
>>
Zemnya has so many people willing to lick the balls and taint of the #1 BR faggot its insane.
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>>123774954
Wouldn't 1 archer be good for full draw anyway?
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>>123775656
nobody is there
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>>123775772
>archers are shit
>archer mobs are literal murder machines

IMC?????????????????
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>>123775890
I hope they IP gate the BRs in their own saule zoo
Or if not that, at least make a report button for a player so we could harass the shit out of him
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what is the cookie cutter swordsman build for grinding?
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FUCK THIS GODDAMN QUEST FUCK YOU IMC FUCKING RNG PLANT PICKING MASOCHISTS
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>>123775984
I just logged in and my shop was closed. I'm there now, but I can go anywhere anyway.
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>>123776281
>grinding
>in a beta
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>>123776302
At least grapevines aren't letting out poison gas that doesn't actually poison you yet.
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>mfw when I have brilliant kike idea
>make 2 squire with level 10 weapon buff
>set them near each other
>set 1 price high and 1 low
>laugh as I make shekels
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>>123776368
not to get to lvl 200 mind you.
just to play and, you know, have fun.
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>>123776575
>grinding
>fun
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>>123776332
So do you guys have to be in-game to use the weapon buff skill or is it an offline store?
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>>123776479
>make 2 squires

I will be laughing.
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>>123776634
just give me a build will you.
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>>123776661
people don't understand that passive income forever is OP
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>>123776638
It works offline, it's just wonky. Sometimes I log back on and find the shop was closed. Most of the time it works fine but maybe someone has found how to close player npc shops, beats me.
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>>123776763
naw, some bokor or an alchemist probably crashed your map
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>>123776748
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>>123775628
>tfw lost my kissing virginity to another boy
It wasn't supposed to happen like that.
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>>123776885
alchemist can do it too?.. the fuck
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>>123776885
How does Alchemist crash it?
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>>123776763
If you want more details... while you're logged in you can still be damaged and the shop closes. When you log off your name turns green and you become an npc, which supposedly means you're invincible.

>>123776885
I didn't think of that, that might be it.
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>>123776920
>>123776920
FINE, JEEZ.
I'll just go swordsman 3/peltasta3 full INT
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Anybody know of any korean resource sites for ToS?
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How many SPR points should I get? I'm too poor to afford an assload of potions
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>>123770505
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>>123777482
70
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>>123777482
zero
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>>123777482
get sp regen to at least 100 then your fine bonfire will carry you thru
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>>123777482
I"m doing full INT Krivis 2 and I have no problems so far.
Just use whatever you have handy for SP recovery and dont waste spells.
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>>123777482
you dont need any
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>>123777482
Would you accept a donation?
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>>123777592
People don't realize that sp regen is 1 of the most op stats in early game
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>>123777482
Put a blue gem in your gloves. Done.
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>>123777567
>>123777576
>>123777592
>>123777605
>>123777623
thankee kindly

>>123777706
only since beta is ending so soon and I wanna get as far into Bokor as I can. I have no idea what a lot of money is so anyhing is good I imagine
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Is Gesti a semen demon?
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>>123777864
>Bokor

Prepare for bugs
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>>123777960
Of course

t. semen demon expert
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>>123777960
Of course. May we all remember to give her our daily thanks
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>>123777978
I just wanna see if it's what I want my release game main character to be
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Can I just use my cards whenever I want to after hitting 175?
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>>123778156
yea
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>Shirt/Pants Lv5 Red Gem ^263HP
>Shirt/Pants Lv5 Yellow Gem ^5 Physical Def

What the fuck am I looking at? Which one is better if you're a Wizard? Is yellow gem really shitty as it looks?
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>>123776479
You do know they'll share the same team name right?
It's better to deploy them at different places. Like the 130 and 90 dungeon entrances.
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Gesti luring the Revelator into her bondage trap doujins when
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>>123778320
they won't at obt
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>>123778319
Use the HP ones
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>people say archer is suffering
>I'm still waiting for the suffering.
When does it kick in?
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>>123778418
only kicks in when you are retarded and go archer 3
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>Woman Peeling Potatoes
What did IMC mean by this?
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What's the easiest crafting item to make to get the white hair?
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Do pets actually share exp or am I being memed
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>>123778635
they do if you kill shit you actually get XP from.
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>>123778453
Yep, there's really no point of getting archer3, since you already get swift step buff at C2
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>>123778453
But that's exactly what I did. I wanted maximum suffering... I didn't get it. :(
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>>123778574
Florr or White Mucus. Florr needs less ingredients but you can't afk farm crystal spiders, or at least I haven't found a spot where you can do it.
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>>123778690
nice meme
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>templeshooter card
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>>123778796
Must be. My pet is almost 200
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>>123778745
did you make sure to go full SPR and never upgrade your weapon?
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>>123778570
Women and Kitchen
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>>123778937
That's probably where I fucked up.
I guess I gotta restat and go full SPR and get shittier gear.
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>>123778326
>Gesti humiliates the Revelator right in front of his beloved goddess, Laima is forced to watch as her Revelator shamefully cums over and over while having his dick stepped on by the Demon Queen who then proceeds to mount him, lock her legs and ride his cock, filling her womb with his seed and bearing his half demon children

NTRing Laima when?
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>>123778901
This "sorceresses are sluts" meme has to stop.

Sorceresses are cute, pure, and have no lewd intentions ever.
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>>123779168
what was the faggots name in the mausoleum the demon one that guy and the goddess i need that ntr doujin made
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>wizard bracelet

how bad is the drop rate of this things? i need 2 and i just reached in the map.
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>>123779226
Word.
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>>123754515
Transform alone will make druids worth it, and if the CDs on R7 skills shown on the trailer are right fade will be useless because you will have more that enough fillers to not depend on OOB.
The only reason for going cleric C2 is divine might, that is still kinda decent.
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>>123779318
pretty low but its much better to hunt than the battle bracelet.
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Reminder to not fall for these memes:

>full dex builds
>str/int is the worst stat in the game
>memelander
>sword2/3
>quarrel shooter
>wizard2/3
>cataphract
>archers and mages don't become any better late game
>full spr mages
>full con swordies
>save ALL your cards until 165
>muh 600 level cap
>full spr archer
>swordsman class is op
>elementalist needs wiz3
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>>123779443
Highlanders are pretty fun, honestly.
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>>123779368
Her thighs are inviting me
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At what lvl was 6th circle? I'm counting exp from cards i've saved so far, sadly some were used to hit 130 on this char, it was before double exp.
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>>123779226
That is perfectly fine, but you posted an image of Croire and she's basically a slutty Histoire.
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>>123774954
i swear when i see these people, i will rekt them

>>123772891
>>123773148
Split shot is good but going 6 circle just for that is a waste.
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>>123779368
>dat outfit

prostitute class when?
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>>123779634

You can have fun with any of those builds, but they are still memes.
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>>123779226

no, they are demon cock rider sluts, gtfo
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>>123779685
Rank 6 is 177
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>>123777482
none

t. Sadhu
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I like how people say con is a meme then complain when they go up against the elite mobs and mobs that have disable at later levels.
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>>123779685
177-178. It's okay to have to used some cards, you'll have plenty of cards from questing if you suck enough demon dick
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>>123779792
Yeah but I mean, it's a damn good class as well. Don't build them pure dex.
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>defeat the nearby monsters
>there are no nearby monsters
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>>123780115
I'm almost 155 and its fun desu.
Should i switch to second dick prison?
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>>123780197
whats the proper stat distribution then?
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Where's the lvl 190 dungeon?
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>>123779685
If you just hit 130 then you dont even need to save cards, save level 7 and 8 cards if you're going to bother saving them.
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Monster gems are the RO cards of this game right
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>>123779443
>archers and mages don't become any better late game

so they DO or they DON'T?
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>>123780424
outside mage tower
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so how many are down? like 17 right?

it seems only 3 are left
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>>123780480
they dont
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>>123780493
Thanks, forgot I saw that before.
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>>123780339
I'm doing more strength than dex, but enough dex to work with (~150-200ish.) Working pretty well so far.
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>>123779443
>archers and mages don't become any better late game
>late game
meme in a meme, is this memeception?
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>>123780301
You can stay in District 2 till like 159 at which point the exp starts to fall off but you get lots of money. 2nd Demon Prison has much more exp with the tradeoff of you get no drops. You'll gain like 2 levels an hour though if you have a semi competent party that knows how to run around the warp portals constantly.

One time we invited a healer who got so lost he didnt know how to get through Shaton Reservoir
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>>123780553
>20
Everytime
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>>123779443
I'm a QS but I'm never gonna tell the secrets of the class. I enjoy being a meme.
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Anyone here selling monster gems on Gabija?
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>>123779694
Croire is pure.

Histoire is a slut.
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>>123780678
Who's to say you can't be a dog? Probably archer tree.
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>>123780756
>a cute anime girl will never spread her legs for you
why live
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>tfw ~6 months until you can be a plague doctor with an army of zombies
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>>123780762
will i be able to bark arrows
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What are some tricks to killing people who are afking a spot?
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>duoing while rushing 190 200 and 130 dungeons
>friend got petamion heaven e hell mana mana and sissel
>I got knotted armband
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>>123780840
I ask myself every day
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>>123780895
You can use Ice Wall to push them about.
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>>123780840
This life can only be two things
Unfair and shit

Time to go
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any news on the release date?
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>>123780852
>mfw the hype for rank 7/8 is the only thing than keeps me going
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>>123781290
when you move to korea
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>>123780840
Who knows, one day one might spread her legs for you.
But she won't be smiling, that's for sure.
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So where would you say is a good point to stop upgrading your equipment?

+5? +10? +15?
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How the hell a class with the most complex damaging system - wizard, is at rank one?
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>>123781642
>complex
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>>123780840
>A peltASSta will never take advantage of you and grind on your dick while teasing you for being unable to hold back at all
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>>123781641
why? when the cap increases its gonna get outdated when the new weapons come out and people start to upgrade them. push it as far as you can with the resources you have.
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Jesus christ why is peltasta so attractive

Makes me want to erp with one
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>>123781802
>>123782017
Time to exit the thread until I can get off this Peltasta at the next rank
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>>123781709
>energy bolts scales like shit and needs sleep to multiple damage, you cant sleep bosses
>earthquake has good damage and good aoe, needs lethargy for multiplier, unless targets are small it wont hit more that 4 targets
>magic missile needs sleep to become good aoe, has targeting system only experienced player will understand
>enjoy squeezing all that into 8 second quickcast

Compared to pyro:
>I FIREBALL
>I FLAME GROUND
>I RUN AROUND
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>>123782501
>energy bolt is shit
>earthquake is shit
>wiz2/3 is shit
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>>123782501
>complex
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>>123782647
fuck off retard, go erp with your fuckboys
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>use Monstrance
>blue mob I didn't see wanders into it
>Monstrance cancels its blue buff

Good one IMC
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>>123782501
It's not complex, it's just faulty or negatively unbalanced.
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>>123782713
what is wrong with you
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>>123782719
No, blue buffs go away in a specific time, I've watched a stuck blue mobs buff go away.
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>>123782501
>my class has shitty damage, that's why it's complex
>I'm so fucking good
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>>123782851
Monstrance gets rid of it.

I'm sure Nuno will post THAT webm in a second.
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>5 sins collection
>each necklace gives +10 of each stat
>full collection only gives +1 int

THIS GAME IS SO SHIT
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>>123782857
Name another class with more complex damaging system then. And I never said it was shitty. moron.
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>>123782501
>wiz 2/3
>experienced player
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>>123782983
You do know you can take them out of the box, right?
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>>123782983
why the fuck don't you have a Max Petamion yet
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At what point is giving up Ludas Staff going to get me more overall damage?
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>>123782501

>earthquake has good damage

yep until mines that is
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What stats should I take for a auto attack priest?
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>>123783064
go on redditnigger
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>>123782974
Is this test on white buffs? since blues are so rare its gonna take months to test it on blues. Might just be coincidence or some shit.
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>>123783064
energy bolt and earthquake are still shit with your "complex damaging system"
they are literally the worst skills ingame. useless (for dmg) after like lvl 20
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>>123783338
It was on a blue.
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>>123783064
Following your stupid logic of dumb limitations = complex, then Archer fuckface. There's also Cryomancers, that freeze don't work on bosses, half of Cleric's classes have niche limitations and specifications. You're just assblasted because you fell for the wiz3 meme.

Also
>And I never said it was shitty. moron.

>>123782501
>energy bolts scales like shit
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>>123783413
No, I'm asking if it was a one time thing, was it the second time it happened? Have you tried it on white mobs?
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>>123780480

They do become top DPS.
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>>123783064
>And I never said it was shitty.
Well sir, we do say it is shitty. Just accept reality.
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>>123783338
It gets rid of it on whites, too.
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>>123782501
>>123783064
When will reddit leave?
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Can someone explain to me how Block value works? The stat that's buffed by StoneSkin and High Guard, and how it's different from block chance?
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>>123783524
I wasn't the one who tried it so I couldn't tell you. I just know there's a webm of a monk named Nuno that posts here using Monstrance on a blue to try and overkill it for more exp, but the Monstrance dispelled the blue exp buff.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/archer-using-arrows-instead-of-sp/121803
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>blue mob out of fucking nowhere
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>>123783087
because normal petamion drops less than max.
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>>123782719
>>123782974
>>123783413
>>123783753
>>123783753
>>123783852
was this already reported?
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>>123783852
It happened on my thaumaturge for several type of special mobs.
Sometimes the buff just disappears, it's not linking, it's not using hangman knot, it's not using swell body, it's not freezing them nor doing all of that at once, it just disappears.
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>>123784063
I don't see a forum post about. How the hell do people expect the developers to fix shit if they don't know what to fix.
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>>123783418
Are you retarded? Archer uses damaging ability - damage comes out. whats complex about that? Scales shitty - doesnt mean its damage is shit. Also, dont bother to reply if you are this stupud.
>>123783339
Confirmed for never having good gear.
>>123783594
Your opinions are local memeshit though. You all play same classes, pick at least 1 linker or psychokino, most of you never reached demon prison and you think you tried out and know class by picking 1 rank in it.

Still waiting for you to name that class.
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>>123783876
>kill it
>no massive exp gain
oh..
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>>123784201
you are trying too hard
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>>123780559
>>123783559
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>>123784421
>>123782713
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>>123784483
Rank 6 and above archers are okay.
For all intents and purposes you are a liability for 95% of the current content.
>>
Does anyone know which enemy drops Zircons? The ToS base says red panto Spearmen but I have no idea where those are.
>>
>>123782719
>>123782974
>>123783413
>>123783753
>>123783852
>>123784148
Someone who did some testing make a forum post about it. Its not gonna get fixed if they don't know about it.
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>>123784201
>doesn't know how any other class works
>thinks it's top tier damage and experience because play the noobtrap that wiz3 is

wew lad, congratulations with all that experience, you are the best player of this game man, let me call my family to tell them the news
>>
>>123784727
>make a forum post
I wish there was a way to report bugs and exploits without having to post on their shit site and have a verified steam account.
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>>123784865
posting it on 4chan might work
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>>123784201
No, your opinions are local memeshit.
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>>123784548
you could make a webm of you doing complex damage, but then again you dont even know how to play the game
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>>123784483
>>123784616

For mages you can really start to tell the difference at rank 5, some builds at rank 4, depending on their class choice. Archers only at rank 6.

Clerics and swordies can't keep up with that DPS.
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>>123784616
>95% of the current content

Holy fucking shit kill yourself retard. Have you played an archer class to 200? I have. You are either shit at this game or your build was shit.
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>>123784727
>this faggot right here
you don't understand that /tosg/ won't make the forum post, they'll stay here and complain about how shitty and bad imc is
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>>123784936
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>>123785052
Level another class to 200 and then talk fuckface
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what am i missing before i start leveling this alt
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How many will we see when the game goes live?
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Did anyone here fall for the Wizard 3 meme?
How useful are you finding quick cast?
>>
>>123785212
Prontera levels
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>>123785202
How far do you expect to get in the remaining week and a half?
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>>123784852
You make some idiotic assumptions for no reason and then post them. Thats not how you converse with people, kiddo.
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>>123785212
>food for tosg
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>>123784616
Sure, I can solo the 200 dungeon anyway. I don't need a party
>>
>>123785212
I tried eating from camp and nothing happened
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>>123785402
It's made for elementalist.
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>>123785425
177
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>>123784946
Show you characters then. I have one 200 and another is 147.
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>>123785419
this in each channel
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>>123780197

I think Highlanders are fine, they are a good class, the problem is that they are outclassed by Barbarians. I feel they need to give Highlanders something else so they can differentiate themselves and become a real class choice.
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>>123785171
I leveled a pyro/linker/thau to 185. I leveled a barb to 145. What fucking difference would it make? "95% of current content" is solo questing you goddamn mongoloid. Where do you think you're going to be a liability as an archer? Dungeons? Demon Prison grind? What lead you to believe these stupid opinions? Was it first hand experience, or second-hand memeing from this general?

You are fucking trash if you played an archer and struggled at any point in this game so far. It's as simple as that.
>>
>>123785134
But it will, the exploit will be known to the general public everybody will exploit it the developers will know about it, they'll be forced to fix it.

Of course, you also destroyed the whole game for everybody but hey at least the exploit is fixed.
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>>123785425
according to my screenshots, it took me 8 days from new alt to rank 6, and this is including Thanksgiving dinner, so I think anyone who starts now can make it to rank 6 if they play nonstop.

Also is there anyway to check your playtime for each rank outside of the advancement button? I didnt get to see how long I was actually sucking demon dick for.
>>
>>123784201
>>>123783339
>Confirmed for never having good gear.
well show of your great bolt/earthquake dmg then

i guarantee my gear is good. prolly better then yours.
but these skills do terrible low dmg, compared to other wizard-class skills.
>>
>>123785641
You first, fuckface.
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>>123785641
What the fuck are you trying to prove? What wizard uses earthquake at level 200?
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>>123785425

I got a new character to 200 in a week with 2x exp, but it was a class that levels really fast. I think any other class can at least get rank 6 in 1 and a half weeks.
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>>123786101
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>>123785524
Food table is buggy as hell. I think it has something to do with logging out.

>spend ~100k in setting up a camp and table, cooking food
>camp teleport doesn't work
>can't eat

t-thanks
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>>123786238
Oh geez, that sure tells us how strong your damage is. Show the damage you complex char is doing.
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>>123786101
Are you the guy who was baiting hard in latest threads?
Masterbaiter, i'm impressed.
>>
>>123786194
If you are missing the point, you should fuck off.
>>
>itt damage control
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>>123786373
Thats not what this post was for, fuck off.
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>>123785641
>>123786194
>>123786238
>>123786541
we're all waiting you stupid faggot
>>
>See flashing mob
>Some linkerfag shows up and rubs all his fail all over it
>No more jackpot effect

Every. Fucking. Time.
>>
>find not two, but THREE blue mobs in the span of 15 minutes

I guess I'm not seeing another one in my lifetime.
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>>123786381
Thanks for biting. That doesn't change the fact that you're still a shitter with your complex char and gear. ;^)
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Any chance IMC is going to stop with the stupid wipe idea so I can actually test high level stuff like they want us to do?

Unless they're already officially releasing it, then no problem.
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>Hit 75 as Pelt>Hoplite
>have Arde Dagger from my other character
>IT'S TIME.jpg
>it's underwhelming
>I miss wearing a shield

I guess I'm just not ready for memes yet
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>>123786714
>Wanting betas to not wipe
Kill yourself.
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>>123786714
no, they will not let you escape from the demon dick
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>>123786714
they have to wipe, you can currently dupe items.
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>>123786714
buy the founder pack and you get to keep your character
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>>123786035
When I reach 200.
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>>123786594
>>123786373
>>123786101
>>123786194
>>123786696
>LOL REDDIT POWER
kada fuck off clown
>>
>>123786714
They have to wipe. I feel bad for all the shekels I got from exploiting.
>>
>>123786905
>>123787272
>things that never happened
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>>123786905
considering the hardest part of ToS is grinding and silver falls down from the sky duping and silver exploits aren't really a problem
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>>123787354
I uploaded a video of one on my youtube channel, so it will have a date earlier than today.
When they fix it I'll post it and you'll stop talking shit.
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>>123787159
No anon, you are the kada.
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>>123786847
>Reading comprehension
Y-you too senpai desu.

But I can't disagree in parts with the rest who quoted me, I just feel like we need more time.
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>>123787508
does that shit still work, I thought they already patched it a couple patches ago
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>>123786814
well you could equip cafrisun armor to stack with the dagger but then you're just kind of squishy
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>>123787617
They haven't patched anything since release
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What should I swap my Grand Spontoon for at lv120? The options aren't all that attractive except for Dratt Spear, should I get one?
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>>123787508
>I uploaded a video of one on my youtube channel
>but I'm not gonna post it boohoo
How about you stop talking shit?
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>>123787704
naw, there were 2 silver exploits that were going around. I only knew 1 of them. they patched the one I knew.
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>mfw people don't make exploits public so everything goes to shit and devs realize the state of the game is a mess

You are actually helping destroy the game hiding your exploits so you can get a little advantage in a beta
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>>123787805
Not that guy, but if you can't realise how buggy and exploitable the game is simply by looking at those hotkey.xml tricks, then you should stop talking shit.
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>>123787405
how is infinite stats not a problem?
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>>123787004
why not now ? your tryin to 'show off / talk big' now too..
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>>123787795

Obviously Zega spear, go get the recipe at legwyn
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>>123787795
Zega Spear, they're stupidly cheap for some reason too

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/242106/
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>>123787805
>implying people are just gonna hand away free exploits
Keep trying, anon. I like being able to test everything I want with easy money.

>>123787924
I already reported it, don't worry.
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>>123787957
>Not that guy
Nice try.
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If you're only going one circle in Swordsman and Peltasta which are the skills you're meant to focus on so that you don't just feel depressed with them dropping off later? Other than Concentrate and Swashbuckling, I guess.
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>>123787992
are you talking about another exploit or the grind to get stats one
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Sounds tough, wish me luck

hope I can make bokor3 by next week
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>>123787924
but making exploits public is literally Reddit
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>>123788134
anything from a questline/boss is infinite.
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>>123788273
yeah thats the grind to get stat one, theyll probably put it as a quest reward
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>>123788201
I know we are trying to make our own sekrit club and I even support it, but come on now.
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>>123788092
Sure thing, no one's gonna believe your memes in here.
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>>123788000
You are missing the point too. Learn to read.
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>>123785741
>I feel they need to give Highlanders something else so they can differentiate themselves and become a real class choice
Well they gave them Cross/Sky Liner and Vertical Slash. Now they just need to make Vertical Slash actually scale well and it'll High C3 will be really worthwhile, since Skull Swing is already good. Like if Vertical Slash added an additional hit per debuff since we all know multi-hits are all that matters.
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>>123788124
>Swashbuckling
>ever falling off
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>>123788072
>>123788052
I actually had been looking at that one for a while and then I forgot. Thanks anons.

How hard is it to get a Thick Chain?
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I did some testing awhile ago, the attribute for Cartar stroke knock back collision seems to lower per hit damage.
But it gets your 3+ more hits. I think when I tested I was using skull swing to remove defense.
Might have been boss resisted it so the skill does less damage when toggle on.
Can someone else test it? Might actually better if you don't use any remove defense skill. I am at work right now so can't test.
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>>123788521
I think Stoutlets drop it, they're untradeable for some reason but you'll fight so many Stoutlets going through main chamber it'll be hard NOT to find one. Zega Spears cost like 150k though, I'd just buy one if I cant find a chain.
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>>123788497
Exactly, that's why I said "other than"
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>>123788692
>Zega Spears cost like 150k though

The cheapest one I see is 550k, is the market rusing me?
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>>123788479
bailing out ? alright anon. didn't really expect more
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>>123788523
So I'm gonna make a memelander now but how were you supposed to use the No Knockback attribute?

I know if you turn it on you only hit 4 times instead of like 10, so you should keep the knockback for bosses who cant be knocked back, but do you ever want it off?
>>
Is there some kind of chat for this so I can circlejerk?
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>>123788816
oh, I must've mistaken the recipe cost then, I was recalling it from memory. The materials are really easy to get though.
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>>123788376
I don't think so, this requires sending 2 packets over and over again. then you just go afk and enjoy your free garbage.
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>100+ dipshits at Necroventer
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Other than Highlanders/Barbarians, what other classes/circles can overkill on low cooldowns ?
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>>123788836
I only said about 200 because you asked me to show my damage. It would be easier to compare it then. I never boasted about it, I said it was not shit. My damage wasnt the point of conversation either, it was about preparations wizard has to make to deal damage, they are considered complex. Seriously speaking with people here is the same as speaking with TW and BR in game, you are this fucking dense. Fuck off.
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>>123789248
get that petamion recipe my man
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>>123789290
Ranger :^)
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>>123789371
died in 20 seconds couldn't even get into a party ;_;
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>>123789214
ah then this isn't the grind to get stat one, its another one.
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>>123789476
It's alright you would've gotten talt anyway
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>>123789290
Why do you think we're complaining, anon?
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>>123789367
ppl said these skills are shit and do shit dmg
you said they dont

you are the shitposting fucking dense BR here
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I've just been sitting here for ten minutes eating cereal and hitting my potions now and then. I've gained half a level. Sorcerer is stupid.

>>123786714
Assuming they're changing a lot between betas, they need people to retest the low level stuff. Also if new ranks are being released, they need to see how balance changes with people's class choices.
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>>123789367
>go pyro
>go linker
>go thaum
>go sorc
>go necro

wow so complex :^D
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wow, this is even more fun than I thought it would be. Definitely thinking it's gonna be my release game main
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>>123789974
Cute
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>>123789974
We don't do any balance testing (that's korea with their often resets), our resets will be for all the exploits people found
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>>123789367
I wonder why I don't see wizards using earthquake
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>>123790115
Krivis -> Bokor

u dun fucked up
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Wanting rogue with scout's cloaking is a meme.

Cloaking is not 100% invisibility and it actually leaves the trail of your movement. If you walk on grass, you still see the grass particles, and walking on stone surface leaves dust cloud.
With this client side "tell" it pretty much means a client mod can be made to show cloaked archers.
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>>123790449
does Fade make you invisible in PvP? It could be pretty danke considering that it's an AOE buf
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>>123789974
Where is that?
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>>123787924
>Implying I don't crash World Bosses with Cartar Stroke at least once a day then feign ignorance to send a message to IMC that their game is broken.
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>>123789974
>quoted by Honey
You're right though, but there's his point.
>>123790183

I'm just salty because I won't get to job 15 before this beta ends.
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>>123790621
Most likely shanton farm, senpai
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>>123790723
nice avatar bruh
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>>123789828
>>123789993
You are braindead, pal.
>>123790367
Because it has retarded mechanic that makes its use situational.
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>>123779226

>pure
>wears see-through pantsu
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>>123790842
a lethargy powered up Earthquake is still weaker than my icebolt
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>>123790723
>quoted by Honey
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>>123790842
So you gave up on your complex damage argument? Disappointed in you, anon.
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>>123790183
What, really? I mean with the assumed language barrier with the team I guess it would be hard, plus they're trying to mostly appeal to koreans as far as I know, but you'd think they'd at least look at numbers. Like just about every wizard going sorc or linker, etc.

>>123790621
Shanton Farms. I'm just grabbing all my 7 cards before heading to demon dicks.

>>123790723
Do your best anon. We still have lots of time left. There's zero chance we're not getting another closed beta. The later ranks aren't even released in korea, let alone the post-200 maps
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>>123790901
wait are those pubes then?
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>>123790367
>>123790842
its only (rarely) useful to knockdown mobs
never for dmg after 3x

>>123790969
this
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>>123791129
It's entirely gonna be us bugtesting, they give no shit about us.
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Why cant Squire do gem sockets as well?
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>>123791129
the Korean client is literally patches ahead of us, theres no reason to use the ICBT data other than stress tests because our data is outdated
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>>123791148

They're pubes if you want them to be pubes.
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>>123789974

respec that spr/remove that sp gear out

put 2 fat unroasted blue gem on your rod.
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>>123790397
nah, kid. lol

going c3, too
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>>123791004
>>123791129
Thanks for the encouragement, I'll try.
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>>123791260
wait for C3
You become the ultimate jew, replacing their gem with a fake one, keeping the original for yourself. The placebo effect works anyway
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>>123791243
>>123791268
I guess that makes sense. Weird choice on their part but whatever. Honestly I don't really care if some classes are overpowered, I just want every class to at least be fun and usable.

>>123791447
Everyone keeps saying this but when I tried I hated it. Sure the summon drains less SP but I also have less to cast other spells. Since I'm linking, swelling, buffing and sometimes freezing I felt like it was actually draining faster.
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>>123791104
>being this dense
How many times I told you to fuck off?
>>123790969
472 base icebolt is stronger than 501 base earthquake with double up from lethargy? Do you even play the game?
>>123791227
Do you even know how magic works? That mobs have elemental weakness and resists, immunity? Do you know how damage scales?

This is the people that argue with me.
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>>123791769
do you regret your wiz3
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>>123791769
overheat lol
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>>123791769
>elemental weakness and resists
sure mate. cmon and show us your earthquake VS a earth-weak mob. 2k or maybe 3k ?
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>>123791769
>level 15 Earthquake
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>>123791769
Here's your (You), you genuinely earned it.
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>>123792009
>>
How does the bird companion work with hunters/mount classes?
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>>123791769
>Wiz3
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>>123792239
Good job, anon! So powerful, omg.
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>>123792009

i'm not him, but u can do some overkills with qc double eq lvl at lvl 60~70
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>>123789214
isn't this solvable with a couple lines of code
>if said stats are greater than X when at X level alert system to make a log
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>>123792239
I can do more damage with swordsman auto's without any setup

nice lol
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Anyone for the 50 dungeon?
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>>123792297
>>123792284
>>123792184
>>123792164
>>123792009
>>123791886
>>123791858
I wont reply anything anymore if youre gonna go full retard. I have enough clowns in game to look at.
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>>123792372
hi qt
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>>123792418
>the many people who think I'm retarded are the clowns, I know I'm right!!!
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>>123792418
youre the only clown here friend
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>>123792418
Just leave the general, anon
It definitely looks like it'll be happier without you
I don't even know what this is about, but with this many (You)s you're either baiting or being baited extremely hard
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>>123792239
>3.1
one fireball tick does more
>earthquake 'hits' once. 17sec cd
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>>123792372
Gabija? I have a Linker that can join.
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>>123792503
I have yet to see your game experience, show me your characters faggot. what you managed to achieve. All you do is shitpost like a fucking bored clown.
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>>123792418
You must be that wiz3 linker3 guy I saw earlier.
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>>123792597
Bullshit, I have full int pyro with 80% attribute and know its damage, you fucking shithead.
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>>123792418
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>>123792597
You lie
>>123792337
You lie too
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Cataphracts are cute!

CUTE!
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>this thread used to have normal discussion
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>mfw mob density is shit on these maps is a lie and its I can't grind on that map because it hurts
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>>123792951
No.
Hoplite auto's easily do 2-3k dmg per hit at lvl 200 without gearing, just +5 spear and cafrisun set and nothing else, they also have no cast time, no cooldown, and don't require setup to do the damage.
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>>123793060
that earthquake guy was good entertainment desu senpai
>>
I almost forgot how fucking infuriating Chromadogs were.
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>>123792951
My monk's double punch does about 3k damage a crit for a single hit, for a normal hit about 1.5k, so on average I can constantly hit mobs for 3k to 6k damage without any cooldowns.
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>>123793325
That post was made by me, redditshit.
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>>123792597
>>123792849
>>123792951
>>123792731
>4661
and that is ONE of 15 Ticks from ONE ball
in your 17 sec earthquake CD i can place at least 2 of them. and maybe 3-4
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>>123793460
see this guys this is some good entertainment
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>>123793492
>>123793147
>lvl 200 compared to lvl 147
literally empty heads
>>
How do we fix Chronomancer?
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>>123793492
Without the attribute for Flame you can place 4 balls, Earthquake guy BTFO.
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>>123793545
>>123793325
hmm yeah, i was bored before all this circlefaping happend
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Someone sell me a Sage Wall please.
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>>123793492
Not any of those anons, but curious, would you mind showing me your stat window and equiups?
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>>123793640
Didn't you say your epic memebuild is lvl 200?
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>>123793492
Ignoring the 50% damage bonus from attacking an ice mob; How did you get fireball damage up to 3.1k?
Mine only ticks for 1500.
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>>123791706
Start using alch pots, with my ,1,3k SP i keep using my summon, buff party with Shield/Swell and casy my Pyro skills and i'm never oom.
>>
Holy fuck, I didnt say earthquake is best damaging spell, I said its not shit, you dumb bastards.
>>123793730
The level is written in the filename fucktard.
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>>123793640
my gear is L120 or lower (except neck/bracelets)

even if my ball would do half of that dmg. the dps would still be massively higher then your memeearthquake
or even if its would do 1/4
>>
>>123793830
and we're saying it is shit senpai
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>>123793830
Regardless, your damage doesn't change much unless you are pumping attributes, your shit skill does 2 hits, requires setup, and has a cast time, it's fucking garbage dude, get over it.
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How can I do the "{}" ingame? I tried ascii and some other stuff but I just can't get it to work
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>>123793809
SP drain with Sorc is a meme, just dont misuse Riding. We have Alch 5 potions now that sell for 400 silver, you should never run out of SP
>>
>>123793830
you forgot your original point, you can't read and you're still here after saying that you would leave. are you ok? when will you kill yourself?
>>
>>123794057
press both at the same time.
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>>123794057
The fencer outfit is so wonderful
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>>123793916
And whats its aoe ratio, fucktard?
>rank 2 has better skills than rank 1
Wow, fucktard.
>>
>>123793492
+50% fire
lmao, you're a piece of shit ya know?
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>>123793830

Why are people taking this guy seriously? We all know it is a shit skill, just ignore this retard and let's go back to have a nice thread.
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>>123793715
>>123793782
pic and high attribute

>>123794130
he posted +50% earth too. see >>123792239

>>123793830
but the Damage Per Second of it is just pure shit
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>>123794005
Rank 1 skill are cheaper and easier to upgrade.
>skill does 2 hits, requires setup, and has a cast time, it's fucking garbage dude
And fireball gets hit with knife and deals 0 damage.
>>
Peltastas are
[ ] Lewd
[x] LEWD
>>
tos forum tier thread
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>>123794130
>+50% earth

only fair he did the same.

>>123794123
>C3 wiz is rank 1
>>
>went from 166 to 167 killing shardstatues and some siaulabs
>still no wizard bracelet

and i need 2
>>
>>123794284
Oh look its the memeset cocksucker

You know those wont be there when the game comes out right? Those are place holders.
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>>123794350
Eathquake is rank 1 skill, fucktard.
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>Lv8 cards give 1% class exp at rank 6 class lv11
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>>123793908

this reminds me of the day that i got 13 talts.
>>
>>123794420
>Those are place holders.
source or shitpost
>>
>>123794420
>You're right but you'll be wrong when the game comes out
Nice fucking strawman retard
>>
>>123794227
>we all know
Here is your problem. redditshit.
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>>123794297
>fireball gets hit with knife and deals 0 damage

linker

>>123794449
with 15 levels and probably 80+ attribute.
It doesn't matter if it's a rank 1 skill, it still sucks and isn't worth using.
>>
>>123794563
Look at korean notes.

Alchemist awakens are meant to be random. Those are placeholders for testing it out.
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>>123794420
>>>/out/
>>
So is there any recommended equipment for a 170 Fletcher ?
>>
>>123794420

even better shit will be avaliable, since awakenings will be random anw.

but ofc, very expensive, imagine how many tries u'll need to get that phat +50 int on a good plate boots
>>
>>123794556
I got 19 talts from all those.
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>>123794420
memequake guy can have the same stuff at 120 now. there shit loads of alchem doing that cheap nowdays
>>
>>123794618
Yes it is, if mobs are vulnerable and if you have nothing else to damage with.
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>>123794360
>swell body a gold shard statue
>6 bracelets drop

MONEY
>>
>>123794563
>people seriously thought WHITE level 30 items being better than level 170 items was legit

KEK
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You are all getting baited really hard by that leddit faggot.
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>>123794284
So same thing I have except +10 elder rod instead of +11.
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>>123794802
>IMC

stop posting earthquakebro, they are actually doing this.
>>
>>123794618
>linker
into the trash you go
>>
>>123794631
>cashshop item to reroll awakening
I can see it now
>>
>>123794730
I will assume they will do something about how + elemental works right now.

Arde, Karacha and Venom are completely broken and retarded.

+elemental on gear is also retarded.

They cant allow that crap to be on the actual release.
>>
>>123794631
>>123794730
If they're random, I hope the same item can be awakened more than once. It would suck ass to get a shit roll on a super rare item.
>>
>>123794936

They can, and they will.
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>>123794775
And whose fault is it that you don't have anything else to do damage with???

:^)
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>>123794936
Explain elements spear then.
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>>123794802
>ppl trust in IMC to actually fix and balance the game

>>123793492
>>123792239
even if fireball L10 would hit only 1k each with crap gear.
that is 1k x 2 x 10 VS your shit
>>
>>123794802
stop, explaining shit to people. even if you know your right. remember coppernicus when he explained the sun was the center of the universe. youre an anon nobody will remember you even if you get the point across
>>
I'm really dissapointed in people here, I didn't expect you to be so dense.
>>
>>123794284
>+14 ice attack is BiS
why? really thats like +14 attack
>>
>>123795283
Feel free to leave, nobody cares about your wiz3 build anyway
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>>123795343
You don't even know what my build is.
>>
>>123795085
considering they made RO. yeah, I do
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>>123794936
They won't do shit, it's pretty obvious that single hit skills will remain all shit bringing whole classes like rodelero into the trash (on top of bosses being immune to everything) while broken classes like pyro will remain unscathed at this point.
>>
>>123795320
46 magic amp + sp recovery
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>>123794995

i hope they make reroll possible, since there's the potential penalty and every awakening eats one
>>
>>123792239

Catching up with all this earthquake shit. Can you make a webm or a youtube video showing your build (gears, skill levels, attribute levels, buffs being used, etc). Then link it here?

Anyone can post an image with damage numbers on it, but without context it means nothing.
>>
>>123795476
err yeah sure why not
>guess were getting an awakening meme
>>
where is these orange lizardman?
>>
>>123795504
I don't have a problem with Awakening eating a potential, just don't make me farm the same item again just to roll another shit affix.
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>>123793492
>>123792239
>No Items
>2134

i can place 4 of them in your memequake cd
they hit 10 times at pyro2. 15 times at pyro3

just do the math. memequake DPS is pure shit. nothing else but pure shit
>>123795320
maybe not BiS, but i like the sp recover. and other gloves do not give much more dmg
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>>123795897
literally everywhere
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>>123794091
thanks, now I don't get how "#" works, the other are kinda easy to work around
>>
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Another cool looking but useless mob skill. Thanks IMC.
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>>123795959
Listen here, faggot. This all started with me complaining about wizard class having to make preparations to deal damage and I called them complex. I dont care about your damage or earthquake damage at all.
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>>123795959

Thanks for providing a meaningful screenshot with real context instead of making empty arguments without any evidence.

This is how you make civilized discussions, anons.
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>>123795449
>they made ro

Please stop this shitty meme, the actual programmers and rest of the design team other than my main man, most likely had nothing to do with RO considering what they did to GE they'd still be rolling 1/2 if they did.
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Where's the 175 dungeon?
>>
Ty to the nab who listed vubbe gloves for 1k :^)
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>>123796369
nuoridin falls.
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>>123795449
even forgetting that the whole team left ro early for a moment you trying to say ro is balanced? lmao
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>>123796247
no you do care about it faggot now please leave
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>>123796247
>wizard class having to make preparations to deal damage and I called them complex
wizard class should not be played

and you said like a dozen times the skill is not shit. you got proven its 100% pure shit
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Any Necromancer anon can give me what damage i am looking at with Tower, Shoggoth, Cannon and Hoop?
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>>123796453
Its pretty much balanced, perfect class balance is a pipe dream that will never be achieved in MMO history or as long as people live.
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>>123796338
So why are you still playing?

> the actual programmers and rest of the design team
do you have the employee list of the developers?
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>>123796634
it's imbalanced as fuck what the fuck are you talking about
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>>123795050
It works on a crit like the viper bow

Those actually work

Its the sub weapons and awaken elemental that is broken.
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>>123792981
>cute
>slut pose
>double V
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>>123795959

memequake faggot BTFO.
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i just did a test with my lvl 5 EQ, no quick cast and attrib lvl 30 and did 2200+1200 dmg on those lizardmans

not that bad, i remember using eq a lot vs these shitters, but having another spells and eq lvl 5 is way better than qc eq 15
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>>123796486
Because its not. If you think this, it only shows your ignorance.
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>>123796771
everything had a hard counter
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>>123792981
>ask hand in marriage
>says no
Fuck cataphracts.
>>
Why can't I log in? Surely they aren't doing maint on a Sunday.
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Any alchemists willing to sell concentrate pots? Gabija server
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>>123795959
Show me now how you deal with fire resist mobs as a pyro.
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>>123796956
They aren't. I'm on my Gabija alt right now
>>
>Saw an arde dagger for 400k
>Immediately buy it

Buyer's remorse. I already have a karacha
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>>123796769
Do you?

You're the one making the claim, whereas the information you can find publicly available online only states that Kim Hakkyu had anything do with RO's development and upkeep, the other IMC Games employees having no publicly stated relation.

HanbitSoft aren't exactly forthcoming with this information though.
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What server did the Brandish drop on?
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>>123797226
I saw someone trying to sell it on gabija.
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>>123795959
>>123793492
>>123792239
he hits 2 mobs. looks like about 10k dmg to each

balls do 85k or 128k in same time. without any items

>10k
>85k or 128k , naked
>but its not shiiiiiittt
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>>123797183
awake it and pass to an alt mage
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>>123797203
So what makes you right and what make me wrong? Nothing.
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>>123796441
Thanks

>wendigo searchers deal 1500 damage on each hit
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>>123797350
>pure maidens pic
>2 out of 3 has a dick
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>>123792239
>about 10k
>agains orange lizardman (wind)
>using earth element spell
>probably with quickcast too

goddamn I'm laughing so much right now, all this complexity man, can't handle them
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>>123797480
>>123797350
Look at these BR idiots.
>>
Ignore the idiot. He's clearly retarded. Giving it attention is what it wants.
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>>123797480
>complexity
Do you even know what this word supposed to mean? I had to cc them, then debuff and only then damage. This is complex unnecessary gameplay for rank 1 class I was complaining about. And what morons like you failed to understand and somehow thought I was boasting about it. So what excacly you and likes of you are supposed to be laughing at, imbecile? I'm like speaking with animals here.
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>>123797069
its just slower (and im pyrolink. any mobs die fast. fire resist really no problem)

im bored so:


725 x 4 (balls) x 10 = 29k
725 x 4 (balls) x 15 = 43.5k

both more then memequake`s 10k
again without any items ;^)
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Blog post:

>didn't know about level 50 dungeon
>didn't know about level 90 dungeon
>didn't know about Constructor's Chapel
>didn't know about Crystal Mines Lot 2

How the fuck did I get to level 200? Now that I got to explore these on my alt, everything makes sense.
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Can someone teach me how to do the attribute level to 100 exploit?
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>grind for ~4 hours solo in demon prison more or less without interruption to level because nobody is farming here
>can leave at 162
Feels good man.
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>>123798443
You had fun
Congratulations anon, you have mastered the art of grinding while not grinding.
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>>123798278
>>123792239
mobs weak to skill
>10k

mobs resistant to skill. naked
>almost 30k

10/10 thread. thanks anon
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>>123798886
>>123798886
>>123798886
>>123798886
No earthquake edition
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migrate >>123798945
>>123798945
>>123798945
>>
>all these dumb posts are made by anime idiots
what a surprise
>>
>>123798952
>>123799003
delete one quick
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>>123798689
>>123798278
Oh christ

You niggers are BRs right?

You can't read right?

Fire ball you just place it down and that is it. To get any sort of damage from EQ you need to do more work. It made no sense.

But keep circle jerking like you monkeys like to do.
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>>123799028
it's okay as long as avatarfags and other cuteshitters don't outnumber non-subhuman players.
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>>123799064
some anon asked how i deal with fire mobs.
i show

all you do is cry like a baby and throw buzzwords like 'BRs' around
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>>123799476
>copernicus
earthquake bro
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>>123799476
BR is a buzzword now?

Stop being a little bitch and learn how to read.
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>>123797435
You're the one making the claim.

Even when the game was initially touted as spiritual successor no journalist was bold enough to make this claim, yet you did.

>>123795449
This here, is paetntly false.

THEY did not, ONE member of their team was the lead game designer behind RO, however that does not mean that it's continued success after was all due to him, or that him being on the team will mean the rest of them will somehow fix this game.
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>>123799727
sure faggot like we care
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>>123788846
With the remove knock back on, you could kill stuff otherwise won't die because of the stupid knock back. Probably some kind of server communication lag, you won't see them being knockback on your screen, but the server will recognize it. It's trippy. And only happen if u r Cartar can't kill stuff out right.
Also with remove knockback and collision, you will still crash if you have blessing sacrament and concentrate on.
As I level, I just never go back to having collision on anymore. The crash is annoying
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>>123795320

Why do people use these gloves? They're worse than awoken roxona gloves.
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