/vtg/ Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide General

Kruber is best vermin

>>123680858
HOLY SIGMAR

>>123680858
What do the tallies on his purity seal stand for?

>>123681547
All of the witches he's purged.

>>123680858
He looks better without his hat.

how do i troll with an elf

>>123682249
>tfw no-hat hat ever.

>>123682457
Play really well.

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Anyone tried to ring the bell in Enemies below (that mine shaft map, forgot if its this or the other)? Does anything happen?

>>123683498
Tried it, nothing happens.

>get a trinket with deep pockets on it

is this it, lumberfoots? do i never need worry about medpacks again?

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>>123686856
The fish proc chance is higher and yet is qutie rare. It definitely happens at least twice per round tho.

Not that you should be healing that much but grab medpacks and heal retards and have it proc.

I personally tried "spamming" deep pockets by switching from tome to health and it's so fucking rare I'd rather this fucking fish right here.

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14th for legs day is best day

>>123688978
that's actually way better. i haven't had much luck in the way of trinket rolls

Trading fucking when

>>123689338
>implying I'd give you my extra fish

DED THREAD
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>>123689421
I want that fish.

>bardin's hammer+shield
>2 AoE attacks, 1 shitty single target hit on 3rd attack
Why?

>>123696076
Just do 2 normal hits and a shove like a normal person. Same deal for kruber's mace and shield.

>>123696076
quality balance
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Why are the 1h hammer and mace supposed to be good again?

>>123698094
Fucking christ, how do people not know how to edit out white space.

>>123699326
it wasnt that, i was in the middle of a game and wanted to screencap it and post it on paint before it disappeared. I just had an image made earlier that was larger than that and forgot to realign it

>>123699582
You know you can screenshot through Steam right? The hotkey is F12 I think. You can change it yourself.

>>123699852
Not him but I didn't know that. That's useful as fuck.

>>123698017
You trade a bit of knockback for damage, speed and versatility. Possibly the best melee weapon type in the game, good balance of AoE, single target, speed and crowd control.
The alternatives are worse in most ways to specialize in one aspect, eg. 2h hammer for more AoE and knockback, shields if you want to play on a higher difficulty than you can handle and just want to survive while your team plays the game.

>>123702656

Shields are a must for cata though.

>>123702656
>just want to survive while your team plays the game.
nice bait

>>123703225
Nice meme.

fucking shit

it took me weeks to realize that connoiseur requires an orange helmet to trigger

and I have all these elf terrorist balaclavas lying around

So why doesn't the aoe heal trinket work sometimes? Is it bugged? The only way I get it to work is by unequiping and requiping it

damn the longbow is hard to use

would zoom make it less difficult?

aww

and game ded now

3rd Dec can't come soon enough

http://steamcharts.com/app/235540

>level 130
>bored af
>still play for the odd chance of getting that orange revive people trinket
Updates when, more content when.


What kind of content could this even get? I mean the story is complete with the main game. Another campaing?

>>123713098
Perfect time to cheat farm.

Is the fire sword complete shit? It takes me 3 charged hits to kill clans on Cata while the sword needs only 2 and heads fly all over the place.

>Sword
Earthing rune(charged), Berserking, Improved pommel.

>Flaming sword
Earthing rune(normal), Perfect balance, Dev blow.

I imagine that if the charged one was in the flaming sword then it would be decent.

>>123714961
Well there's going to be an update Dec 3rd. I know that it will include a bunch of changes to the loot system, but I can't remember what else.

After the December update the devs have announced they plan to add a bunch of new game modes, and it's speculated that they will be adding new hero's as well as a new campaign sometime down the line.

>>123716318
rolling stats is what seems to be decent in that update

Why do I have such a furious hardon for rapiers? I don't know where it all began but it was surely strengthen with Dark Souls.

>>123716920
It's like the most unique melee weapon in the game in terms of play style.

Tell me why a masterwork repeater handgun isn't better than a brace of pistols

>>123719050
Because it doesn't have arpen. Because no reload is better than faster reload. Because Brace is more accurate and deals more damage faster.

Are we done yet?

>>123719321
What? of course the repeater handgun has arpen. It also definitely seems more accurate than the pistols

I suppose the pistols might do more burst damage, but by how much I'm not sure

>>123719050
Because the brace is better in just about every way.

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>>123719050

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>>123718097
That has nothing to do with my question.

I guess I see them as noble, exquisite and graceful.

For the record I fucking katanas with a burning pasion. All of them, the tachi, the ushigatana, the nagitana, the wakizaki and so on. I know I didn't get the names right but they are recognizable enough.

>>123720095
You ain't too good at reading are you?

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>>123720141
what the shit wrong image

I also said I fucking HATE katanas, all of them in every form and shape.

>>123720171
Masterwork is faster reload right? If so, it's still shit compared to the brace.

>>123720438
h-a-n-d-g-u-n

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>>123720141
>noble, exquisite and graceful
It's a fucking sharp stick used to kill things you ponce.

>>123720495
Oh, my fault.

As someone who owns guns, handgun and pistol are pretty much interchangeable in my head. I forgot the soldier's was called the handgun as opposed to the WH's pistol. It made more sense in my head that we were comparing WH weapons.

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>>123720141
>I fucking katanas

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Save her!

>join normal because why not
>2 bots 1 level 74 Saltz with Flamberge and orange brace.
>ok this should be a blast
>the guy seems completely lost and doesn't speak a word
>is oblivious to voice and chat suggestions
>gets destroyed one to many times
>we reach the Kislevite bitch
>game ends
>roll an 8, blue confalg staff(blue ores ftw)

I wonder what the hell was that. I like to think it was somebody who let his retarded son playing the game or something.

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>>123725282
Look at that ass anon. She's imploring disgusting smelly furry cum all over it.

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>>123725892
>roll an 8
>playing on normal
m8...

>>123726143
I had the 5 grims on and we got 1 dice, so the las 2 numbers were pure luck.

>>123726279
He means you rolled a 7 because there aren't 8 dice.
Also
>5 grims

Why do some people pronounce tomes as "tombs"? Are they just retarded or is it some regional thing?

why pubbies keep playing hard mode when they are new ?

and why the hosts are always elves ?

>>123727792
>join hard S&D for shits and giggles
>elf host is level 3
It's kind of fun feeling like a god among mortals and cleaving through hordes carelessly though. Good break from NM.

Does friendly fire actually do a lot of dmg on nightmare?

>Have an orange blunderbuss, don't have anything better so i guess ill use it.
>shoot it during a horde, graze the elf once or twice
>she's still at 75% hp
>2 of the party vote to kick me, but its stalemated
>later on take on a rat ogre
>I'm at white health
>someone chucks a bomb, teamwhipes
>clearly you had the superior aim

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>join game
>hold block during load so I'm blocking when I actually join and don't get gangbanged before I can get my bearings
>see this
Kruber confirmed for chaos worshiper?

>>123729430
Taking a full blast of a blunderbuss does quite a bit of team damage but otherwise, no single hits do like 1% health damage.

Bombs are fucking horrifying though, they can potentially wipe teams, rarely.

>>123729430
Depends on the weapon. Things that can set you on fire=bad, as is poison and bombs. I think the shotguns also hurt a bit more than normal.

Hagbane is by far the worst though, one shot and you lose one little bar segment of your health which is an entire 25% of your health with grims. If you see someone with hagbane on NM or Cata just leave.

Also a blue handgun works fine on NM if you have it, doesn't need to be orange. The only things that don't die to 1 bodyshot are storms and gasrats which both can be killed with 1 HS or 2 bodyshots. Don't be one of those people who disregards things as viable options just because it's not orange.

>>123716278
It's good for crowd control but I don't find it useful for anything else. I've started using 1h mace myself, though I can get surrounded by swarms pretty easily now.

Why are people in SUCH A FUCKING RUSH? I keep running into people who don't stop for anything; they don't take the five seconds needed to go open that chest and get those useful consumables. They run way the hell ahead, and get the team killed when we are all strung out and a horde spawns. Mr. Speedy Pants gets mad at the guy in the rear when he is slowing down because he is being hit from behind, but Mr. Speedy Pants can't be bothered to help Mr. Rear fight off the horde trailing him... I guess that would take too much time. Mr. Speedy Pants gets pissed off when the guy in the rear hides for 10 seconds to avoid getting shot up by a ratling gun, but Mr. Speedy Pants ran way the hell ahead and can't be bothered to go back and help people who are pinned down; he just yells at them.

Slow the fuck down you fucking faggots; the best way to do a quick run is to support your damn team. If you stick together, you can kill rats far more effectively, clearing the way for everyone to move forward.

how many times do i have to farm horn of magnus with loser pubs before i can roll some drakefire pistols?

or are they tied to a certain difficulty?

>>123734838
Just random.
rolled my first set in 140 hours of play while replying to this. Spooky.

>>123731607
Holy shit, and the Speedy Gonzales fuckers always say shit like:

>"omg why my team away from me wtf"

And then completely fail to see the irony in that shit.

>>123731607
Best way is actually to rush and bug the AI. I'll grant you it isn't fun, but it is the best. So, now you know why.

>>123727563
>on normal

You share this general with that shitter

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>join Nightmare Horn of Magnus
>elf host
>inn has the appearance of a level 1 inn; no banners, no lights, no green in the window, etc.
>level 118
????

>>123738378
CE

>>123738378

Lots of HoM runs.

>>123738378
>lights
>green in the window

What?

>>123737869
And most likely many more. Doesn't bother me, I play with shitters all day.

This new update looks pretty nice actually. However they better fucking put out some good support for this game after it sold so much.

>>123738654
They should realize there's a good market for DLC if the update causes a decent playerbase spike. Basically tells them people are still interested but want to see new content pumped out.

Warrior Priest when

>>123738517
As you progress through the campaign you get more lights, a door opens near the bar, and there's a bunch of green light from Morrslieb coming in through the window.

>>123738517
As you complete and unlock new missions, the inn will get more candles, things like explosions can be heard outside, justMorrsliebcomesandgoeswiththeseasons starts shining through the window, and the music changes.

>>123739389
>>123739445
Huh, cool.

>>123702656

Are 1h axes shit?

>>123683498

It spawned an ambush when I did it.

>>123688978

That trinket only works when you first pick up an item, so no spamming deep pockets.

>>123729674
Definetly.

He even m u r d e r e d his whole regiment with one of those soul sucking void orb magic things.

>>123748698
For which class?

>>123748698
They're fine if paired with a shield on a dorf. If you bring one as a WH though you should jump off a tall bridge. Anyone who defends that trash tier weapon is baiting.

>>123737676
That only really works if the whole team is working together to do that. I doubt most people who so it in pub games are even aware of it.

Basically the pace of the group is set by the two slowest members. I find that groups wipe rarely due to attrition unless it's stuff like wheat and chaff. More often than not it's some spectacular clusterfuck see: packmaster that takes the group all at once anyway.

>>123739152

Hard to do a good warrior priest because

A.) You've already got two classes with 1hand/2hand hammers/maces, so you risk feeling repetitive with weapons.

B.) Healing would trivialize medical supplies, while buffs would trivialize potions.

C.) Even supposing you balance healing/buffs against items, you run the risk of 'needing' to have the only Support class to manage higher-end content.

The best I can see them doing for Warrior Priest is maybe something like the Bright Wizard, with a series of Tome secondary weapons offering various Smite Evil-themed spells. Blind a Rat Ogre with holy light. Maybe get some AoE field effects, like consecrating a circle to slow vermin or something.

>>123755927
>risk feeling repetitive with weapons
Sure didn't stop them so far. Really a lot of what's reasonable story wise is going to be similar to what we already have. For melee there's what, halberds and flails left? Both of which a Warrior Priest could conceivably have but that's not the point

And to be fair you already kind of do need certain classes/loadouts for high end content. Having a soldier/dorf with a handgun on NM/Cata is almost mandetory, as is a shield or at least someone good enough to keep the rats off his team for extended durations without one.

Really all it comes down to is implementing the spells in a balanced way. They've proven with BW they can make things that sound OP as fuck on paper turn out underwhelming to downright useless.

It'd actually be pretty easy to balance something like buffs or healing. Intentionally make it as downright useless as possible from the start and just keep tweaking it from there until it feels OK to use.

>>123755927
>>123756717
The biggest problem with a warrior priest is that he has no viable ranged option, and they've clearly gone hard on the idea that every class gets a missile weapon

>>123757252
You just balance it out with defensive or buff options in place of ranged ones. Probably options that don't reset at ammo boxes.

So it's basically L4D with some RPG-like elements and no versus mode?

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>>123762171
Sort of. It's a good game. Having a blast and I can say it's one of the good purchases this year. If you can get it for around 20 quid, go for it.

>>123762506
I don't know if I should trust the words of a bear.

>>123762171
there are no rpg like elements

>>123762640
That bear's pretty much right. It's L4D with better atmosphere and bantz, with a loot progression system. The loot thing is pretty random and frustrating right now, but they're rejigging it in a few days

>>123757252
They could just give him a bible with which he shoots bolts

>>123762640
He's pretty much right.

>>123755927
I like the idea of secondary books doing different things like the BW staves. That sounds pretty cool.

>tfw you will never be a runt slave rat
>tfw you will never get picked on and gangbanged by a pack of Stormvermin
>tfw you will never be used like a cheap fucktoy for hours on end until you pass out
>tfw you will never wake up covered in rat jizz and piss, your abused asshole still leaking juices
Although playing White Rat on Nightmare sort of works like this as well.

>>123769323
Anonymous please, the stormvermin are saving themselves for elves.

Level 37 and I do not have a single trinket yet. 7 levels ago the game rubbed it in my face by flashing some Trinkaholic achievement.

Am I missing a trick or is it just dumb luck?

>>123771490
Dumb luck. I have 3 at level 25.

Does drakefire pistol do friendly fire damage on the charged shot? Seems like beamstaff primary fire which doesn't do FF.

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Post your horde face.

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>>123778414
I can't trust anyone else but me to watch the flanks.

What if they made it so that the special button had different moves for a certain weapon? I think it would certainly make all weapons viable if they had aoe control and single target capabilities.

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HOL-HOL UP
*plagues brettonian*
SO YOU
*hails skavenblight*
YOU SAY TO ME
*stab-stabs man-thing*
THAT WE
*applies skalm*
WE SKAVEN
*spawns in front of you*
WE WUZ GREY SEERS N' SHIT-SHIT?

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>>123775194
>Seems like beamstaff primary fire which doesn't do FF

ok I got the hang of the 1h hammer and I can see why it is good. I can't seem to make it worth in cata tho.

Is the mace the same thing? Don't have a single one.

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>A great Saltzpyre of scorched and broken Skaven bodies, burning in the night.
Bots are fucking superb btw. As long as you keep things of off their backs they'll clear hordes without taking a drop of damage. And the fact you all share trinkets makes it that much better. Or maybe you could strategically distribute trinkets but that would work only if you could give them commands. Which on its own would be excellent, some M&B tier things like "hold here", "follow me", "fall back", "advance" and shit.

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>>123785209
I fucked up

What the fuck.

So if a weapon trait says: 20-40% chance to wathever.

This means that the moment you acquire that in the forge it will "roll" between 20 and 40 and give you a result? Holy shit.

>>123786563
Basically, but we're going to be able to reroll traits when the first free DLC hits.

>>123786740
That's been confirmed? That's great news, I was hoping for it.

>>123786740
Oh god so that's what re roll stands for.

I thought it meant that you could "roll" between all traits until you got the one you wanted.

In example, say you don't want Savenger and thus you rolled for a chacne at Mastercrafted.

Welp, at least farming will have meaning again.

After all this Cata playing NM feels like babby mode.

I don't want to get used to actually killing things with a few hits.

>>123787000
That may be what it means. Frankly I'm not 100% sure on it. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

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Does Kruber's 2h hammer not have a massive AoE sweep as it's secondary? Came across someone using it as him whose response to a massive horde was to bop them individually on the head until getting eviscerated.

Don't have one of my own yet to find out.

>>123791246
It does have a big sweep as the charge attack. That other person sounds retarded.

>>123791246
it does, the bop is normal attack

I want more variants of the orange weapons.

>healing scum
>heal trinket procs
>heal another fag
>heal trinket procs yet again
>heal myself
>it doesn't proc
It was a good feeling.

If you have that trinket I'd encourage you to hog the medkits.

>>123786740
>>123786816
>>123787000
>>123787281
They said both the option to reroll traits into something different and change values will be coming sometime after this first DLC, but not with it. I'm curious how that will work with red weapons with their supposed preset traits.

>>123791246
it's probably the best aoe in the game, not only has a large effect and good damage, but stuns/knocks back a huge amount

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>join game in progress
>take 1 down
>"alright I still have another down before I have to heal"
>die instead
every time

there really needs to be some visual representation of this shit, or else it should reset when you join in

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>>123792217
go back to /pdg/ hoxfag

>>123791993
Any news to what they're going to "do" to the haxors?

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I hope red weapon traits require a conjuction of all 3 ores to unlock.

Otherwise what the fuck am I to do with white and green ores?

>>123792724
Someone already posted that their items and progress got wiped. Don't think he provided any proof though.

>>123793139
Oh? That was a very clever and decent bait.

He only said "All my items I got through CE where wiped" implying that what he got legit stood there.

>>123793251
Well anyway, that's all we got to go on. No clue if shits actually going to go down or not.

>>123792217
you only get 1 fuckup, your hp goes white you blind fuck

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"Ok guys one at a time, who's going first?"

>>123792217
>there really needs to be some visual representation of this shit

It's called "pay attention to what difficulty you're joining."

>>123792217
Stop playing below Nightmare then. Also you must be blind because even with 2 downs on hard and below your screen edges start to go red when you get low on your final down.

>>123794715
huh I thought that was just when you go low on any down
>>123794620
>>123794505
I usually play nightmare but there was literally only 1 (full) lobby for it near me at that time

>>123794601
I love how much thought they put into the skaven AI.

>>123762171

>and no versus mode?

That's the best thing about the game.

>>123794601
>"waiting for black friday in ubersreik"

>>123796268
They confirmed that they'll add versus mode at some point.

>>123785209

Bots can do brilliantly against Rat ogres too; they can take the thing down without taking a spot of damage because they always block with lightning reflexes.

This is find is balanced by their sheer incompetence when taking on any of the other specials. Especially Ratling Guns. I've had solo runs just fail because one Ratling Gun has all three bots completely pinned down whilst I'm dangling from a Packmaster half a map away.

>>123796658
>>123785209
bots are really good at certain things but on the whole I really hate them

I've had bots backtrack 5 stories of the mage tower to go kill a single ratling gunner and attract 2 hordes while they do so

>>123785209
>>123796658
My only real issue with bots is their priorities at times. I've had moments where they absolutely needed to clear out every last rat rather than pick up a downed person.

>>123796862
Those happen, yeah. But in light of the moments I had before the last patch, where they would stand around my body doing absoultely nothing while I bled to death...

>>123799210
That's cute as fuck. Is there more?

>>123796574
Pretty sure they only said they'd consider it. If they do, prepare to have just about every weapon and trinket nerfed for the sake of balance.

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>>123800057

>>123800057
>>123800275
Reminder to play the fuck out of the game before that happens so that you can happily drop it when versus mode is finally implemented and never look back.

>>123800057
it would be easier to simply disable trinkets and traits entirely for versus mode

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>>123800275
Why does everything I like have to turn to shit

Fuck those wankers asking for that shit gamemode and fuck Fatshark for listening to them

>>123801268
Yeah but at the very least they'll nerf every sniping weapon capable of 1-shotting specials because people will bitch and moan about being instakilled while playing rats.

>>123801451
It's probably going to be quite a while before that's implemented. I'm just kinda curious how it would turn out.

>>123800275
CRASHING THIS GAME

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>>123801937
WITH THE ONLY SURVIVORS BEING RUSSIANS AND SOME SHIT-TASTE TEENAGERS

Seriously. L4D versus was/is populated by the most cancerous playerbase I've ever met in any game ever. Jesus.

>>123801778
also easier to just give specials more hp in versus mode.

you could kill any special in l4d with 2 shots from a hunting rifle. there are ways of balancing the versus mode without destroying the coop experience the game was tailored to. you just have to hope fatshark has this in mind if/when versus gets implemented.

>>123802259
I was going to respond that there's no way that this could attract as many autistic retards as zombies but then I remembered that this is Warhammer. It's a lot more of a possibility than I had hoped.

>>123799210
cancerous

>>123802604
Actually I dont think that the groups overlap as much as you're thinking.
Autism is certainly a part of those fuckos who play versus, but there's definitely large quantities of extremely shitty taste and being poor.

And Warhammer Fantasy doesn't attract poor people, that's the saving grace.

But there will always be mouthbreathers who want to play versus, so at the point when it is added it'll be time to abandon this game, since Fatshark will listen to them and them only.

DID I EVER TELL YOU ABOUT MY COUSIN OKRI?

>>123803193
A lot of people will play it regardless of the setting. Before vermintide my understanding of Fantasy was pretty much "that thing they put into space to make 40k". I only bought it because it looked like a fun co-op game. Be prepared for l4d vs fags to migrate in force with the same logic. Hell a lot of them are already here jusging by how many people keep begging for versus.

>>123804004
Literally the southern guy and his friend Keith.

>Just a couple more days before the DLC
I know it won't be much, but I'm still so happy.

So I was curious about how cost effective the PCs are in this game and got my answer;

>>>/tg/43897604

Now the last question is why can't anyone else in the whole of Reikland do their job properly?

>>123809356
Because video games.

>>123809356
>packmasters with the smallest point collective cost
FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS THEM THAT DESTROY AN ENTIRE TEAM

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>>123810123
The right rat in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

>>123809356
>storms only cost 7 points
Holy Sigmar how horrifying

>>123809356
>Chieftains
Are those the non-patrol storms or something?

>>123810814
Yup. The commanders.

>>123800473
>>123801451
>>123801937
Why does /vtg/ meme against Versus?

Is it just the cancerous playerbase?

>>123811541
The playerbase and the inevitable balancing of the game for versus which will make it either laughably easy or impossibly hard against AI.

>>123811541
That and the balance implications. I also really hate to see them put resources into an entire new mode that I know I personally will never touch.

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My first run on hard, my first pair of sword and dagger. Did I do good?

>>123812207
>elf weapon
The answer is no. Literally only good for orange salvage on the 3rd.

>>123812207
You can get a pretty orange crystal out of it in a few days.

>>123812207
Looks good. Bloodlust and Devastating Blow are pretty nice.

>>123811541
I don't hate it, but I doubt it will have any of the charm the normal game has. There's too many procs you'll have to nerf in order to make it not grind2win shit, and you can't really capture the magic of having a player-controlled gutter runner fly to the moon.

That said, I would dig the chance to play a PC-stormvermin squad.

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How would more characters work? Will they share bunkbeds similar to what Bardin has for ale/beer kegs?

Will there be taverns to choose from? Or will they not give a shit about it and just have them spawn on whichever room?

Also. That boarded up room. At first I imagined it led to a storage room but after thinking I assume it is related to one of the sewer missions so it can't be used either.

>>123813871
In case you didn't notice, the rooms actually change depending on what characters are being played. Same thing will happen.

>pub Morr cata
>run going well
>dumbass picks up second grim
>another aggos a stuck stormvermin pack before we are ready
>die

I'm never getting this done

>>123813976
Correct. And every room belongs to a character. So the question is: If more characters were to be added, will more rooms also be necessary?

>>123814280
No, you misunderstand. The rooms will actually move around as well. There's four rooms slots and depending on what order the heroes are picked in, the rooms get shuffled around.

>>123814629
huh really

I was sure that as bardin, with pubs, friends and solo I was always spawning right in front of the broken handrail.

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>>123814923
...you are. Because your game has a dwarf, that room spawns. If you weren't there, it'd be the missing character's room. Which part of this aren't you getting? Picrelated?

>>123816470
He's talking about the rooms moving around. The Dwarf room will always be there if there's a Dwarf, but not necessarily in the same spot. The room being in the same spot is what he finds weird.

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>dwarf player shoots Kruber with handgun
>"That looks like it hurts, sergeant!"
this cheeky fucker

>>123814923
The room position is determined by the game considering you Player 1, Player 2, Player 3 etc.

I'm level 42 and I haven't found a single pair of drake pistols

>>123818160
I'm level 90 and I haven't found a single pair of drake pistols.

>>123818257
I'm level 102 and haven't found a hat yet.

>>123817391
I've heard the WH yell at the elf so many times for friendly fire.

>>123822553
How do you even FF as the elf?

>>123825626

By playing as the elf

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>>123818514
>>123818257
>>123818160
I wish I had a decent pair of
drakes(targeteer, heat build up, mastercrafted)
and a decent handgun(mastercrafted, ammunition holder, penetration).

>>123826186
What the fuck is wrong with your aspect ratio? Please tell me you just squished the image.

>>123812207
The effectiveness of fast weapons like SnD and rapier would be greatly enhanced by chance to kill on hit with the standard devastating blow and extra stamina.
Honestly it doesn't have that great traits.

>>123827448
Well, come dec 3rd I can maybe do something about that.

.

"Fuego" stands for fire in Mexican.

>>123826186

Master crafted is completely useless on drakes, the primary attack is shit even with targeteer and master crafted. Since you will be spamming the shotgun which has a knockback, the faster attack speed is largely useless and the reduction on heat is better.

>>123828047
I use the normal attack a lot to snipe things on cata. With the current green thing I can also get health back often.

You can stunlock storms and rattlinguns as if it was a confalg/fireball staff lmb.

>>123699582
Literally all you do is paste and hit the crop button.

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>run into a corner of the underground map on Enemy Below
>kruber says "I know this place, it's a dead end!"

I got a feeling all this elf-hate is a false flag by soldier turncoats. The skaven have to have someone on the inside, or else how would you explain why the rats ALWAYS know where you are?

JUST A DAILY REMINDER
that if ANY

AND I MEAN ANY ANY ANY ANY ANY fucking one below level 20 tries joining the party on hard you should autoboot them. Not even fucking joking.

It's the fith fucking time in a row where some dumbtard level 11 or 9 joined and he fucked everything up by running past the bench.

Christ

>>123832419
Maybe try helping them by giving advice instead of sperging out like a neckbeard over the fact that not everyone is born with your level of autistic knowledge of every tiny facet of the game

What does 50% luck do?

>>123833189
50% chance to spawn the hidden Leprechaun boss after you kill the White Rat on Cata

>>123832419
How does the bench thing even work? I've had people tell the group to stay behind it but someone has always went beyond the bench so I'm not sure if it's enough to just stay behind or what.

>>123832419
>can't handle Horn on HARD

>>123833401
It's not some sort of trick. It's just that all the spawns for rats are at the bench or in front of it, so you won't get flanked if you stay behind it.

>>123833474
I handle it just fine. It's fucking low levels who are fucking tards who can't

>>123833291

so nobody knows then

weapon procs read the same and still getting blues in dice roll

>>123833518
Ah alright, I saw some webm where the rats went full retard with AI so I thought maybe that was what was actually supposed to happen.

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>>123833587
>can't carry people through hard horn
>calling others shitters

>>123833756
>tard jumps down
>Doesn't block against Stormskaven
>Hogs up the meds

how do we cancel the vermintide?

>>123832419

>lvl 12 attracts patrol on hardhorn
>lvl 12, 20+, 20+ ditch and leave me to solo

>>123833913
You don't. The lore is set in stone. Age of fucking Shitmar happens no matter what we do.

>>123725892
>thinking level means jack shit
>roll an 8
>getting excited about blue shit
>normal

Good god I think your post gave me cancer of the casual variety.

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>guy talking about WH games
>saying there's been a heap of bad ones so it's surprising this one's good

There are so many things wrong with that statement it hurts.

>>123755927
>warrior pirest
>Healing

Obviously you haven't seen a Warhams warrior priest. They're more about buffs than heals.

>>123785209
>don't pick up tomes
>don't pick up grims
>only occasionally will pick up medkits, pots or bombs
>if you go down they have like an 80% chance of tarding out and not helping you back up

The bots are shit.

>>123794601
I played with a guy who, when he hosts, the AI just goes fucking full retard mode for. Anything spawned in at the start of the map loading is free to move as it pleases, but anything spawning in later will move a bit (so like climb over a fence, or jump down a level) and then stop moving. Made it actually pretty hard (on Cataclysm of course), because if too much spawned it would all lag and you'd run into a crowd of Skaven standing around by accident, or sometimes a Skaven or two would unlock from their invisible bindings and just bumrush you. Still, the finale for Horn of Magnus was super easy.

>>123811541
I think it'd be fun

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>>123841579
Good morning Victor. Time for a coffee before work.

>>123841579
>holy sigmar why do you forsake me to commute with these non-believers
>it smells like warpstone in here
>this briefcase is too heavy
>I wish I was on the streets shooting ratmen

>>123762854
It has more RPG elements than Fallout Effect 4

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>>123814262
>trying to get every map done on Nightmare
>whenever I get a more unfavourable map it's always with incompetent players
>the competent players just keep grinding Horn of Magnus for gear

>>123825626
>spam arrows
>hurr how did I hit you?

Elf players are the worst I swear.

>>123843094
Actually got morr done with a different group.

Just supply and demand and well watch to go

>>123843256
You lucky fucker, I've got a good 5 maps to do including fucking Wheat and Chaff and The White Rat. I'm never going to get these done.

>>123834220
Come on now, AoS really isn't that bad. The worst part of it is how they Squatted Kislev, but the whole idea of constantly new scenarios and shit, an evolving, ever-moving general plot to the world is cool as shit. Also, being able to field whatever you want.

>>123843256
I'll do Well Watch with you if you want. It's easy.

>>123729430
There is one weapon I urge complete and utter caution using, and it is the beam staff. The damage-over-time of setting a teammate on fire with the beam is deadly. On Cataclysm, it can take off nearly 1/7th or more of your total health when it's all said and done. Nightmare is a little less, but it's still very prevalent.

Be careful.

>>123843783
I can probably do it another day since I'm beat from tonight.

With a good group it seems like you just camp in a spot and use the breaks to quickly look for supplies. Then defend the second well when it is being attacked.

>>123843581
Having no Points system or balancing factor at all instantly makes it garbage as a game system.

>>123843813
>There is one weapon
>Not the hagbane
Elf-shitter apologist detected

>>123844062
I never said the Hagbane wasn't dangerous to teammates. If you re-read, I said that there is one weapon that I urge you caution while using.

I don't suggest using the Hagbane. Ever. If you really want that poison effect, go for the flask or whatever. It's good shit.

>>123844407
Speaking of the flask, how often does the beam staff tick? Is it in the region of 5 chances for on-hit effects to proc a second?

I'd test but a beam staff has yet to drop for me, not even a white one.

>>123844569
Beam staff procs orange flask pretty often. 6% chance on hit * 5 roughly translates to a good 30% chance to guarantee a kill on whatever you hit each shotgun shot. If you're lucky and have 15% chance for multishot on your staff (and I'm lucky), that chance increases.

I don't know if I would 100% recommend it over other trinkets (ex: the group healing, healing yourself, not being interrupted with revives, etc) but if you're shy on trinkets I'd highly recommend it for a moderately lucky chance. It pretty much guarantees stormvermin kills with a single hit and does insane damage to the Ogre if you manage to hit it with poison.

>>123844897
Sounds great. Where can I purchase one?

>>123844036
But that's wrong you bumbling retard. I used to run an EotE game, a PnP RPG which has no way to balance NPCs via points or anything, and I still managed to make fair and challenging fights. Instantly dismissing it for not having points is just immature.

>>123844897
>not being interrupted with revives
This trinket is useless due to the fact that you can block while you revive.

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>>123845339
>you can block while you revive
I never knew this

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>>123843380
>including fucking Wheat and Chaff and The White Rat
iktf bro

>>123840005
What's so wrong with it? Majority of the new licences GW has given out has been to mobileshit. Aside from Vermintide good releases in the recent years have been Sphess Hurk Ascension and possibly Mordheim but that's still in early access. Meanwhile there's like atleast a dozen shit mobile games. Granted most of that stuff is 40k. If we look at just fantasy there's been pretty much no releases for a good while. There was the remake of that board game last year and before that Mark of Chaos or Age of Reckoning years ago.

>>123843581
>>123845326
They absolutely fucking destroyed the tabletop ruleswise. There's no fucking reason to play it because there's no way to have any sort of balance in your match.

>pnp rpg npc
>a massive scale tabletop wargame with usually hundreds of models at play

Okay, sure you can balance it by playing a thousand games with 1 army against another and figuring out a nice setup. Want to play against another army? Play another 1000 games to find the balance.

There's also no benefit of bringing certain troops over certain simply flat out better units the worse unit used to cost less points. There's no limit to unit size so nothing stops you from rolling with a 100 model deathball.

There's 4 fucking pages of rules.

>>123845254
The youcant store.

>>123845858
>possibly Mordheim but that's still in early access
mordeheim has been out for like 10 days now

>>123845858
>destroyed the tabletop ruleswise
You understand that the whole point is to a) use the scenarios which add more depth and b) fit your own houserules over it and mold it into your own thing, right?

>there's no way to have any sort of balance
It's called using your fucking brain. Or if you're lazy, using one of the many balancing systems that people have developed.

>only items above green I ever get are elf items
>never play the elf
Love this meme

>>123845858
Mordheim is out and it's pretty good.

>>123845858
>What's so wrong with it?
For starters there hasn't been many WH games at all. Secondly, it's all been pretty top shit. Here, I'll list the objectively bad Warhammer games:
>Fire Warrior
>maybe some of the old Fantasy RTS games
>...
And that's it. That's not a lot of bad games, that's not even a majority. Wait hang on, I can see you typing up your reply...
>hurr but Space Marine is bad!
>hurr but all the Space Hulk games
>hurr but Bloodbowl!
That's your opinion, all of those are perfectly sound games with coherent, playable gameplay and are therefore not objectively bad.

>>123847495
>never used to get any Wizard items
>most of the shit I got was for Soldier
>start collecting oranges, they're all fucking Soldier guns
>started playing hard/nightmare with Wizard
>using white weapons
>now I have a bunch of orange staves and a nice blue mace

Just git gud.

>>123847593
>That's not a lot of bad games
Have you looked at the shit they've let through lately? For just Steam you have Warhammer 40,000: Regicide its motherfucking chess with 40k models, Warhammer Quest pretty much a direct port of the board game, Storm of Vengeance and Death Watch good attempt but shallow as fuck game mechanics also a port from mobile On mobile I recall Warhammer 40k Carnage and The Horus Heresy being horrible shit.

>Space Marine
Was decent, I enjoyed what I got but it was supposed to be so much more. THQ financial troubles contributed into that.

>Space Hulk
The recent version was decent but too loyal to the original board game. Space Hulk Ascension was great and works as an actual video game a lot better. No comment on the old as fuck sphess hulk games.

>Bloodbowl
I don't have the patience to learn it but from what I've heard once you actually understand how the damn thing works its pretty great.

>>123848426
>Warhammer 40,000: Regicide
>Warhammer Quest
>Storm of Vengeance
>Death Watch
Again, not objectively bad. They accomplish what they set out to do, that's your opinion.

>Warhammer 40k Carnage and The Horus Heresy
Now those I've never even heard of. Probably because they're bad. So, adding those to the list there's like, 4-5 bad games (I can't remember how many of those clumsy Fantasy RTS games there were). That's still not a majority, given DoW spans 7 games in and of itself.

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>playing on Hard
>two level 38s, one level 39
>finale of HoM
>they all spread out, one near the horn, one at the top of the steps, the last behind the bench
>make a comment about it
>eventually elf replies "got anything else to say?"
>I reply with "what, apart from pointing out the obvious that you guys are all almost dead?"
>they votekick me

I'm sorry, what? I know it's only Hard but for fuck's sake, there's no reason to risk death like that. If one of them had gone down (elf was one hit from dropping) we could've wiped the team just trying to get them back up, and for what purpose?

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>>123849832
Hard is where all the shitters congregate now. Either get used to running the odd nightmare game that shows up or learn to deal with retards forever.

>>123845672

I have jerked off to lenexwants castration pics r8.

>>123849832
That's why I always try to be someone carrying a grim. Votekick = bye bye grim.

That and for some reason shitters seem to always want to take them meaning the whole group has to stick their necks out trying to keep them alive. Better they go to the best 2 players.

>>123851502
>special thanks to kruber
>the guy who admits he can't read on Wiz tower
10/10
I want to teach him to read so he has something to do at the inn other than make adorable potato men

>>123851606

You must be a total prick.
I've offered constructive criticism many times.
I'm either ignored or they thank me and try out my advice.
Never been vote kicked or threatened to be kicked before.

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>>123851606
I don't carry grims myself anymore because Australian internet keeps fucking me over and getting me suckerpunched from metres away.

Last game I was forced to carry the 2nd grim on morr because no one else wanted to carry it and dropped down into the maze. When I died I didn't even give a fuck because I knew it was gonna happen.

I get out of it most of the time anyway since I have potion sharing.

>>123849832
If you were an asshole or autistic about it then there's your answer. If not a lot of people take suggestions/tips as "you're playing the game wrong you shitter". Hell I've had people tell me to fuck off for just saying "try and stay behind my shield in this corner for this horde" and then defiantly try to fight in the middle of the room alone.

>>123851774
I've only been votekicked once literally as soon as a joined a game without saying a word. Grim is just my paranoid insurance.

Usually I don't communicate at all other than point out specials and items.

>>123851970
i responded to the wrong person. sorry.
I meant >>123849832 guy must be a total prick

>>123851502
This was just a whole group of retards though, except maybe the dwarf who stayed behind the bench.

>>123851606
Pretty sure I was carrying a grim, or at least a tome, because I remember the soldier was a retard who somehow didn't seem to know about the tomes and grims (never once attempted to head to one of the locations and pick one up) despite being level 38. Yet they still kicked me.

>>123851889
Not really, no, I called them out on being rambos, then the exchange happened in that post, then I was votekicked. I said nothing before the event except "patrol" when there was a patrol, I was nothing but helpful.

I like the way the Skaven giggle and laugh when their amongst themselves. I wonder what their thinking about.

>>123855107
Kill-killing the man-things.

>>123855176
Kill Slaying*

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>>123855378
You gonna argue with Queek Headtaker?

>>123855843
M8 a heap of people playing this game don't even know what a Horus is, yet alone anything of worth about Warhams or GeeDubs.

>>123856391
Just a bit of idle chatter about skaven-speak man, I'm not shitting on him or anything.
I know shit all about Horus because the majority of 40k just doesn't interest me.

>>123855107
Most likely their hatching up plans to betray the Grey Seer and steal all the glory to themselves. Their probably snickering at how ingenious they think their plan is.

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>>123852785
>I called them out on being rambos
>I was nothing but helpful

Do forces of chaos ever fight the rats? I thought I remember reading the horned rat is pretty much hated by the other chaos gods, but nothing about marauders and the like taking them on.

Honestly I just want an excuse to play as a viking that's more than 4 feet tall and not Scottish

>>123856590
But at least you know what a Horus is because you know Warhammer. I'm just saying, I've played with a lot of people on this game who only know Warhammer by name.

>>123857350
What, does that hurt your babby feelings? I used to call people out on ramboing in L4D all the time and they'd just suck it up and start playing in a more tight-knit group.

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>tfw found an exploit in White Rat that turns it into a cakewalk

Saltzpyre and Sienna should just fuck already

>>123860448
Post proof

(not that I personally need it though, got nightmare and cata runs when you could solo it)

>>123861830
It's a bit fiddly, we were just trialing it and really needs four friends to pull it off we think (we were trying with just two people and couldn't get it on Nightmare). The problem is that the initial hordes are there until you open the door (which also spawns stormvermin), and you have to survive that with three people, after that it's so easy though you can just wander through an almost empty map.

Not going to post proof as friend's worried about it getting fixed.

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>>123862373
don't post it
some asshole streamer will get a hold of it and take credit for it

>>123862773
Well yes, that too.

>>123859214
>I used to be an asshole all the time
>On a casual video game
>I'm still an asshole now
>Kicked by teammates
>Shiieet I'm mad, better blog about it on an anonymous image board
>Get called out on it
>What does that hurt your babby feelings?

That's some intense cognitive dissonance right there.

>>123864227
Calling people out on overextending isn't being an asshole. If I'm overextending I'd prefer someone to call me out on it than to get jumped and die (or at least inconvenience the team). That's just how these style of games work, it's co-op, there's no need to get hurt and pissy just because someone's trying to cover your back.

>>123857763
They do in one of the Gotrek and Felix books.

>>123857763
>Warhammer Dwarves
>Scottish

They have York accents for the most part.

>>123866631
>Warhammer Dwarves
>Dwarves
>ves
>v

>>123869431
Yes, got a problem m80?

>>123869431
Is there something wrong with it in your opinion?

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>>123869431

I wonder who was the retard who was responsible for "dwarfs". It's utterly idiotic. I bet it was some guy who made a typo and repeated it over the first rulebooks and later upon realizing his mistake claimed that it's an unique pronunciation for warhammer in order to not appear as an idiot. The circlejerking cocksuckers that formed a majority of the initial fanbase believed it and the legacy has carried to this day. Jesus fucking christ.

>>123871683
>Dwarfs is the standard plural of the noun dwarf. Dwarves is a newer variant popularized (though not invented) by English author J.R.R. Tolkien in his fantasy fiction works, including The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.

If you want to get real hipster with it you could go with dwarrows.

>>123871683
>>123871973
Not that it matters anyway, they're Duardin™ now.

Just got the game; how do I git gud at the Empire Soldier?

>>123832419
>not being able to cary on hard
there's the door, anon.

Just bought Mordheim. How much of a terrible decision was this?

I know it's supposed to resemble tabletops with bullshit rolls and casuality and I can already see myself sad over it.

>>123879463
I've put a lot of time into it. Well worth it in my opinion.

>>123851502
Where are you from? I see tons of US NM games all the time. Now the real challenge is to find a host with decent upload speed.

>>123858593
Isn't Horus a person tho?

>tfw when you'll never have a Bugman DLC
>tfw when you'll never drink Bugman Brewery beer/ale irl.

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>>123796851
>doing waterfront mission solo
>jump across the ledge to finish the objective
>one bot makes one jump, then falls off
>the other two fall off the first one
>save the first and go to the next two
>the first falls off again trying to follow me
>save the two and go for the next one
>they fall off again
>meanwhile 3 Stormvermin decide to waltz in and show them how it's done
>mfw

How can the rats have manageable jumping AI but the bots are so fucking retarded? Was it just a one off?

>>123881476
>3 actual players all hanging off various ledges
>save them
>jump back across myself
>rats spawn on my target ledge while I'm midair
>collide with them and bounce off
>now I'm hanging off the ledge

>get good enough at the waterfront mission to throw 4 out of 5 barrels directly onto their target spots from upstairs
>some other asshole starts racing to the barrels and just chucking them down for the first floor people to grab
>lose at least 3 barrels from 1st floor people getting hit
I'm angry

>>123841579
>>123842842
Made my fucking day.

>>123882690
>save the day, but get incapacitated as a result
>they utterly ignore you in favour of chasing down lone rats, or just fuck off into the unknown for reasons even Tzeentch has yet to figure out

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>Steam forums honestly think giving host the ability to kick is bad

Could someone please explain to me why giving the HOST control of HIS server is a bad idea?

>>123884723
>looking for logic on the steam forums

senpai...

>tfw you need to alert the auforities

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>playing HoN hard about a month ago
>host's level is in the teens
>fumbles around, doesn't really understand how tomes/grims work or where they are
>he picks up the second grim once we open the door
>after getting to the roof he just holds it for 6 seconds staring at the burning city, then destroys it
>apologizes and says he would leave out of embarrassment but is the host
>mfw the entire run

Playing with innocent shitters is such a fun experience. So long as they stay out of nightmare+.

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>>123886404
>on hard HoM
>bumbling dwarf innocently hoovering up and misusing items
>every horde he's there, running round and round in circles, spastically flailing at the air
>the Skaven almost always completely ignore him and he ends up in best shape afterward
>mfw the comments that start racking up
>mfw he's in blissful ignorance of it all
he didn't destroy the grimoires though, thank fuck. One guy actually popped a speed potion to make sure he got there first

>>123887284
>One guy actually popped a speed potion to make sure he got there first

What's the fucking point in that? lol

>>123887652
The fact that him even finding a grimoire on his own was as likely as a Rat Ogre cartwheeling across the screen in a tutu just didn't occur to him

Ok who the fuck had the bright idea to make it so that once the host leaves the entire game goes to shit?

Are these the developers of gayday or something?

>>123884723

Kicking people is for insecure losers.

>>123889525
It's really a great asshole detector
>normal game - asshole makes it mildly unpleasant but you soldier on, then reveals himself at the 80% mark and ruins it, wasting your time
>Asshole has vote kick - boots you at 20% mark for his own retarded reasons, leading to minimal time wasted

>play as Witch mostly since I started
>get bored and switch to soldier/dwarf
>realise that 2h charge spam is far more powerful for hordes than witch shitty aoe flames, with no drawbacks
>realise that handgun sniping is far more powerful than witch staff attacks

what is the point of witch existing again?

>>123895852
git gud

>>123895852
So that shitters like you would know their place.

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>>123721125
Lol'd

>>123895852
Conflagration and Beam.

Conf in my opinion.

>>123895852
It's Wizard btw.

>>123899221
tried conf, its only advantage over charged 2h weapons is the range, offsfet by the overcharge and inability to block

in the end a 2h weapon is just plain better