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Orphan of Kos x Ludwig edition


Living Failure >>123460872


>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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>>123483984
Posted it at the end of the old one.
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>>123483023
>>123483658
Here's the dmg on a 35 SKL/40 BT character with full gems. Not amazing but it's definitely a lot of fun to fuck around with, especially against gank squads.

Not sure if you can actually parry with the R1 though, I've heard people say you can but I haven't encountered it yet.
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>>123484108
Nice job m8
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>>123484145
The blade form is pretty amazing imo
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Reposting from previous

Is having 25/25 in your main weapons' stats enough to go through NG+ DLC without it feeling like a huge grind or do you need full on 50+ skil/str/arc/whichever?

Also holy shit these turkey captchas are cute as fuck
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Is Laurence supposed to be fun or something? because he just flails around like an Autist and kills me in two Hits.
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>>123484320
The reach is incredible, it's almost the same length as the Saif in transformed mode.
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Where does one go after Ludwig?
I got the Eye Pendant from the Cathedral, and than went to kill Ludwig, and after him are two NPC Hunter sluts that do ridiculous damage.
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What's the most fun DLC weapon? I'm kinda interested in going full beast mode with the claws and rune or whatever.

I usually play STR. But I'm not adverse to arcane.
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Anyone around BL90 want to help with Kos?
Being Wheelbro is suffering.
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I wanna know how much money vaati is making this year.
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Anyone want to help me with FRC amygdala? Pw is bbgkek BL110
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>>123484469
Gotta kill those sluts anon
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>this good synergy between some dlc and pre-dlc armor pieces
noice
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First time playing in ages, just beat the BsB.
Wondering if they nerfed his poison? It seemed a LOT weaker than I remember it.
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>>123484494
80% of the weapons are strength, and none of them are actually good. It terms of fun, Holy Moon Sword.
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>>123484494
I'd do claws as well but by that point there's nothing left to fight with the claws by the time you get them.

Except other players but PvP is too garbage for me to bother with this time around.
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>>123484632
>none of them are good
lmao
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>>123484580
But they are broken shit and I don't have a coopfriend to help.
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>>123484661
>but by that point there's nothing left to fight with the claws by the time you get them
What? You can get them after killing ludwig which is 1/3 of dlc.
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How is the damage for parasite? Looking at the wiki and it has it extremely low, can't be right.
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>>123484570
>>123484570
Cleric Beast
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>>123484687
Eh just ran past them to the altar if you want.
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>enemy Hunter using beast cutter
>one million damage, 10000 yards of range
>your beast cutter
>meh damage, range is shit

Thanks FROM
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I made a Great Isz earlier on my new char. Will I be able to use the glyph in the OP for a blood rock?
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Making a Samurai build with bowblade/Rayoko/saif and Chikage. Can't make an asian character for shit, Anyone has any sliders for a japanese male?
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>>123484687
You can pull the melee one down to the cell area
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>>123484383
He's hard for the sake of being hard. His sweep attacks and pounding attacks have crazy range and do insane damage (NG+, I don't know about just regular NG). His second form is even worse since his arms now dish out damage to the sides even though he is attacking to his front.

Took me about 4 tries to beat him solo and I just stuck to his left side in both phases and R2 spammed. I would have liked the fight more if he wasn't a reskin of the Cleric Beast and had an actual original beast model considering he was the most powerful and determined cleric who then succumbed to the beastblood.
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>>123484793
>>123484805
Do they drop anything?
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What's the best way to farm blood chunks, Hinterthomb from the gdoc or cursed great iz?
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What do you gain from defeating Laurence?
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>bloodtinge builds started as edgy katanafaggots
>now they are eldritch snake wizards with giant magical mace and bow
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>>123484804
>male
There's your first mistake
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>>123484898
It unlocks the hidden secret beast mode.
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>>123484794
>enemy hunter using Rakuyo
>one million damage, 100 000 yard range
>blood enchanted
>fire enchanted
>your Rakuyo (after getting assraped by two shark giants 20 times)
>meh damage, slow as balls

Thanks FROM
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>>123484718
Including the base game, there's not much left unless you rush right for them and farm in the lecture hall for hours so you dont get rekt in chalice dungeons.
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>>123484904
>Giant magical frenzy mace
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>>123483839
Look like it's good. No matter what 1000AR ludwig tryhards talk
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/805577-bloodborne/72885139
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>>123484904
SNEK
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>>123484975
>pulling out the frenzy attack in PvP and watching them run away in panic to just explode in blood and die

Quite delicious
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>>123484938
>using female characters
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>>123484950
To be absolutely fair, she's probably not using the SAME Rakuyo as it's implied she hated using the blood stuff. Most likely got a Rakuyo-shaped Chikage thing.

But yes, it is bullshit.
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>>123484904
>worries about my limited bullets
>don't want to waste bullets
>end up never using bullets
It hurts. I want to use the Bowblade.
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http://strawpoll.me/6104487/

Best weapon?
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>>123485091
>that long face
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>>123484904
>spelunking with my friend
>hide by the boss door and scare the shit out of him with the snek whistle when I hear him come running
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>>123485083
Out of all the possible weapons, why did Bloodfags get the frenzy weapon though. I was almost certain the space wizards would get it.
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>>123484383
it's there to mindfuck players thinking they are just fighting regular cleric beast that has been lit on fire.
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>>123485083
>>123485236
Attack itself only does frenzy to you. To your opponent it just deals massive damage. It's a bloodtinge version of kos pose.
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>>123485236
Ever paid attention to Frenzy itself?
>involves blood
>bloodtinge gets said weapon
gee i dunno anon
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Guys, is it better to have flat arc gems or arc % gems for Kos Parasite?
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I'm making a quality build, level 83 now with 50 vit, 20 end, and 25/25 str/skill.
Where should I dump the remaining points, and what weapons should I try out other than the memeblade? Especially any new ones
I'm currently using the cutter and it's fun but idk
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>farming watchers with bowblade

Holy fuck this is EZ PZ
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>>123485381
You sure? I've seen two people get killed by the attack about 5 seconds after it already hit
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>>123485456
Depends what level you want to cap at.
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>>123485428
So far my test results are mixed. Some attacks have minor damage boost from scaling and percentage gems, some are stronger with flat gems.
The absolute best will be 9.8% ARC + flat ARC damage but good fucking luck farming even one, i did 200 attempts so far and got nothing.
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>>123484904
Don't forget about the cannon.
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>>123485381
>virmins
EDGY
D
G
Y
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>>123485456
>25/25 str/skill
keep one of those stats to 25 and bring the other to 50. A 40/40 quality build in BB is lacking(weapons and damage) unless you go 50/50 which by then you'll go over BL120
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>Rush through the game to kill Vicar Amelia as fast as possible
>Level 23 co-oping with friend to rush through Ludwig and get MLGS
>We get absolutely shitstomped by everything

Time to level up I guess
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>tfw quality build
>rakuyo requires ARC
>bloodletter required BT
>bowblade requires BT
>pizza cutter requires ARC

FUCK YOU FROM.
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>>123485790
>98BL meta
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>>123485790
make a new character dummy
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>>123485708
Nothing feels as good as doing this after killing an insanely laggy shitter.
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IS THERE ANYONE ACTUALLY -GOOD- AT THE GAME THAT CAN BEAT LAURENCE?

90% OF THE PLAYRS I SUMMON GET ONE SHOT BECAUSE THEY ARENT MINMAXING IN A BOSS THAT DEMANDS MINMAXING

PSN Nora_Kisaragi

we got a psn party going
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>>123485790
It's a good thing that despite the Pizza cutter scaling with ARC it can still be buffed.
>Spinning flaming Buzzsaw of doom
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>>123485635
No more than 100, so I have at least 15 more points to spend.
I'm thinking 9 points into Arcane for the basic tools, and the rest either on end since they're leftover anyway, or maybe strength if there's a worthwhile weapon with a higher str requirement.
I don't really want to use anything that's primarily strength based though, I have my str char for those
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What's the maximum damage for a gem? Is it still 27.2%? I saw one of the anons here saying they had "rebalanced" blood gems (if they did what did they do?)

And the ultimate question: that bloody skeleton in Ludwig's room. What does he do or say? Obviously he died for me and he spawns as a ragdoll everytime so I assume he's 100% dead forever as an NPC flag.
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>>123485881
I beat him today with Valtr summoned.

I recommend it.
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>>123484938
this game has enough semi-cute girls with the after-sex hair.
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>>123485456
>20 end
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>>123484825
I'm fighting him on Ng+.. got him to his second Phase just now but died, I'll try to stay on his left side next Time. Don't think I'll be able to beat him tho.

>>123485304
I also thought that at first, then I noticed he has some new Moves.
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So is this going to be updated soon?
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>>123486021
>actually responding to tripfag shitters
>especially the same tripfag shitter that claimed abhorrent beast was literally impossible to beat
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>>123485936
The tools really aren't worth it imo, you'll get bored of the gimmick and rarely use them, at least I did anyway.

You could pump the other 15 points into STR, or even BT so you can get some reasonable damage from a Hunter's Pistol and fuck around with the Bow.
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>>123486021
>I beat him today with Valtr summoned.
>I recommend it.

Nope.

Valtr cannot hold his own against Laurence and dies like a fucking bitch at 60% health

I'm on NG+ and summons DO NOT SCALE WELL like they did in prior souls games.
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>>123484108
I love how the parry for this guy(?) is him going "WRRRRYYYYY!", or is it Kiras laugh post BTD in All Star Battle?
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Request facesliders for japanese character that was posted in bbg like 4 days ago. Can't find shit in archives
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>>123485961
>that bloody skeleton in Ludwig's room. What does he do or say?
You know the first time you enter that room and that cutscene plays? You know that voice saying "help us" or whatever? He's the one saying all that. He's just there to give Ludwig some gravitas.
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happy thanksgiving
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>>123485881
Beat him solo on NG and NG+

Git Gud.
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>>123486108
Cainhurst
did
nothing
wrong
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Just started getting inot chalice dungeons. How do you all farm your gems so easily? Cursed fetid rotting are kicking my ass. Also could someone give me a good starting point for strength build gems? Currently running with 18% physical attack on my pizza cutter
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>atk -7%
>hp depletes -8

Fack afffffffffffffffff
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>>123486184
>NG+

I didn't know anon.

I didn't know that you were suffering.

Good luck.
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>>123486108
>No AWAY AWAY

ITS FUCKING SHIT.
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>>123486184
sasuga
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>>123486280
Why in the name of Oedon would you make that?
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Anyone care to help out with orphan? Level 83 pw bbg
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>>123484604
What head peace is that?
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>>123486324
>>123486294

Beat him solo on NG+4, the difficulty i'm on.

You can't.

Fuck.

Fine, i'll prove it to you
>twitch tv/redzonic

NOTE: This is not a stream thread faggot janitor. This is me proving to them the boss is unwinnable, learn the rules of 4chan or get fired
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So was Kosm just an incorrect interpretation of Kos, or is there still a Kosm out there? Perhaps the male mate of Kos that is actually Orphan's father?
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Did Skill/Arcane builds get anything nice in the DLC other than Rakuyo?
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Anyone know how long it takes trophy info to synch up? Seems like I have all the weapons but no trophy
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How did we go from this...
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>>123486462
Did he manage to do it?
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How do I Orphan?

For now I'm focusing on partying for 3k damage, but it seems a lot of his attacks don't have a parry window that won't also put you on your ass. I'm considering just focusing on charge attacks since they do about half as much as a visceral, though so far it hasn't been effective.

Ng+ btw
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>>123486579
Don't tell anyone but it's short for Kosm(other)
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Requesting the ayyylmao fungus guy MUDA-ing the Brain of Mensis
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>>123486671
Bait jump attacks and dodge towards him then start charging an R2. If you time everything correctly, you'll end up just behind him and hit him with the R2, leaving him open for a visceral.
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>>123486579
>Kos
>famale
>Kosm
>male hence the M
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>>123486626
Should be seconds after getting the last weapon you needed.

Make sure you have all the weapons and that includes the piercing rifle from the shop.
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So is all the arcane on the new weapons just to prevent them from being buffed with fire paper, phantasm shell, etc.? Or should I actually invest into Arcane to use this shit?
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>>123486542
>learn the rules of 4chan or get fired
Maybe you should learn the rules or get banned you whiny faggot
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Is there a purer waifu in bloodborne?
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>>123486626
Yeah, I have...weird
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Question, since I dont remember, what was the basis for the theory that eileen is the wet nurse?
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>>123486579
>>123486826
You guys are retarded.

"Kos or some say Kosm" isn't a fucking puzzle, it's just pointing out that depending on who you are you can pronounce it differently.
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>>123487017
>eileen is the wet nurse?
Jesus.
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>>123486989
All church girls were pure at some point. Then church brutalized them.
Fuck those faggots.
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>>123487017
>same weapons
>same armor
>when you kill wet nurse eileen disappears
>same voice actor
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I'm shite, I'm sad and Def amy is still alive.

Help?
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>>123486810

Just did an attempt where I got him to phase two without getting hit, but then got immediately slaughtered. Any tips for this phase?
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>>123487017
there is none

they sort of look alike

go figure the son of Oedon, raven-eyed skyfather of wisdom, has a gaurdian with a raven theme
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Anybody want to help with Laurence?
Sitting in front of the fog door, and can summon valtr too if necessary.

Pass: tnxgiven
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>>123487125
When the fuck does the wet nurse talk?
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>>123486542
you need help? give pass.
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>>123487180
my homeboy peeve did it on ng+7 with beast claws
stop anon
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>>123487150
Unfortunately it's about the same. You just have to abuse the fact that his jump attacks have a lot of recovery. Don't go for viscerals, though. Just R2 and get out of there. Also, when he does that lightning shit, get to the fog gate. And if he's already there when he does it, free hits.
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>>123487084
Nah it's different deities. Like Jesus, or some say Allah nigga.

L2interpret.
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>>123487180
>the boss is unwinnable. get over it.
Except it's not and the only reason you think it's "unwinnable" is because you're a fucking scrub
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>>123487350
>psn party
Don't do this.
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Is the moonlight greatsword a str and arc weapon? Oh and the Chikage, when you use the bloodied version, does it have extended range with the blood? It looks like it does.
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Why did Maria kill herself?
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>>123487478
She discovered the Fishing Hamlet and was overcome with guilt
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>>123487478
Tried to escape from nightmare?
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>>123487478
She tried to kill herself most likely because she was forced to oversee horrid experiments and could not bear it any longer as she could not help those people.
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>>123486542
Like I knew you were at shit games, but ffs.
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Jesus fuck those anchor fishmen must be the hardest enemies in the game
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>>123487452
Both.
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>>123487629
You can parry them, that makes dealing with 'em a LOT easier once you get their timing down.

But yeah, the only other one I can think of are Winter Lanterns if you don't have the gear.
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wow the Kos form with the kos parasite is stronger than the AR lets on. i am shy of 300 with shit gems and I do a lot of dmg with the AOE and transformed whip attacks. They hit multiple times with each attack so the damage really stacks up. I feel floaty as hell though. Feels kind of good tumbling all over the place.
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>>123487478
She discovered /v/
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>>123487629

Parry their crawling lunge
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>>123487629
The big motherfuckers?
Yeah they're a bitch and a half. Any tips on fighting the two down in the well?
Should I try to shaman bone blade one of them?
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>you kill Maria
>she drops an item that allows you to manipulate giant clock
Is this a Castlevania throwback?
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>>123487180
>the boss is unwinnable. get over it.
Wow, you must really suck at this game.
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>>123487629
Them and the purple powered bell swinging fatties
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So the dlc has some of the best bosses to be in a souls type game. However the normal enemies are ass. Every single one of them has a flail move that will get you killed very quickly and easily. Honestly, the hunters at the beginning were the funnest enemies.
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>>123487350
password is bbg

at the first lamp

if you have the Hunter oath equipped you WILL be an enemy in my world pls be aware
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>>123486108
>not having the full pic
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>>123487320
need help with Laurence

pass: tnxgiven
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>>123487635
What do you mean both? As in yes to both?
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>>123487965
level?
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>>123487779
Parry the first one all to hell, once he gets down to half HP, take the advantage of him being knocked down after the V attack to get him with the bone blade.

The barehanded guy is way easier to dodge but you may want to keep your distance (not TOO far though to not trigger his rush) and pelt him with Blacksy/Brew or throwing stuff if you feel you're too weak to reliably finish him off with meele. Or just parry him too.
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>>123485726
what happens when you go over bl120
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>>123487839
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>>123488001
108 on NG
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>>123487987
I meant as in both STR and ARC, but yes to the Chikage getting slightly longer reach, too.
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>DLC expands on all this stuff
>no expansion on Vilebloods and Executioners
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>>123488024
The twitch chat gets very, very angry.
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>>123487478
>Why did Maria kill herself?

Did you miss what the church was doing to people in the zone you just crossed?
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So there was this weird shadow thing in the Orphan fight, Orphan fucked it up, and I got a Nightmare Slain then a cutscene? The fuck was that about?
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>>123488173
Would probably have reserved that for a Cainhurst DLC.
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>>123487884
im at hunters nightmare lamp where you at
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>>123488024
I'll call my boys Yukas, Beeve and Obloroboro to make sure you get blacklisted from the twitch community
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>>123488143
Be there in a few
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>>123487936
this is fucking perfect jesus christ!
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>>123488173
>>DLC expands on all this stuff
>>no expansion on Vilebloods and Executioners

There is Vileblood/Executioner content in the DLC

Perhaps

Yamamura is the creator of the chikage and nobody knows how to make him stop bashing his head against a wall and talking about how good the executioners are

Maria is also the cousin of the vileblood queen so perhaps a secret might be involved there

>>123488276
>im at hunters nightmare lamp where you at

summoning
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>>123488149
Ah cool, thanks.
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>>123485790
>>123485885
>requires arc
>scales with arc

It most certainly does not, and the arcane scaling only applies when you give it arcane gems like literally every other weapon.
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>>123488398
Was he not babbling about the League??
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Who's the guy who gives you the Accursed Brew? Does he drop anything else?

Also, what exactly did we learn from this dlc, other than that the Church was indeed utter shit, Kos was somehow washed ashore and... something happened, and that blood-drunk hunters end up in the nightmare, which is... fueled by the Orphan? If so, why?
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>>123487761
>>123487779
>tfw trying to parry the delayed anchor swing
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>mfw killed BLB in cursed dungeon in like 20 seconds
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>>123488646
Begone demon.
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>>123488646
fuck off satan
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How do i into coop chalice dungeons?
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>>123488646

A W A Y
W
A
Y
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>>123485790
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>123488646
webm of that saw in action pls
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>>123488175
should I care?

i dont have psn+ yet but i have to go 125 if i want my desired stats atm
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>>123488646
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Is there a good way to farm blood gems without either PS+ or save scumming? Ludwig keeps destroying my arcana character because I just can't keep the damage up with the shitty bolt gem I have now.
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>>123488646
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>>123489036
>bolt
>against rape horse
Chrism, use fire at least.
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What are some good PvP DLC locations?
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>>123489036
For arcane? Make chalice dungeons. Without PS+ the sun will have long since died by the time you get any good ones, but that's kind of the only way to do it. There's an arcane droplet in Mensis to tide you over in the meantime.
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>>123488646
full stats with on character page??
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>>123487936
Artfag who drew the last part here, I'll see what I can do, list me some new stuff thats been in these threads and I'll add em
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>>123488923
Not really.
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>>123489161
literally anywhere aside from the hut as when you invade hosts usually just run to fog gate
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>>123489212
he doesn't need PS+ just a usb.
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kos form is a generator of jojo poses
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>>123489238
Something about the "omg maria waifu" fags.
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Anyone wanna bro-op? If so, I'm making my way to the Laurence fog gate. Be there in 2 mins, beckoning bell ringing. password is bbglaurence
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Can someone post Kos's face?
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I just bought the DLC, is it possible to fuck up getting all of the new weapons in one run?
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>>123489468
Best waifus is Kos, hands down.
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This DLC might have my favorite set pieces out of all From games, but it's also the least fun I've ever had playing a videogame. This shit is getting too masocore for me. Really hope this DLC isn't an indicator of where things are going and they're going to dial it down a notch again for DkS3.
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>>123489472
beckoner here. pw is too long apparently. make it bbglau
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>>123489447
What are your stats Jojo-poster, I want to flop around like you!

Also gems n shit if you don't mind
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I beat the Orphan guys.

I don't know what to do now. It's really over.
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>>123486184
>>123485881
>HURR MINMAX HARDER FOR MEEEEE

You're especially enormously retarded. Not only are you not realizing that the people who get oneshot are just hapless NG players who got pulled into your game, but you're also an overbearing faggot who thinks people should dress the way he wants when they're helping him.

In summary: Eat shit. Filter'd SO fucking hard.
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Anyone feel like blitzing through Cainhurst with me? I'm bl 68
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>>123487478
She found out Gehrman's secret stash.
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>>123489582
Aren't they done with souls games now?
Maybe they just want to make sure everyone else is also really done with the series.
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>>123489643
gems are a mix of flat arcane, arcane scaling and 27.2% arcane and fire triangulars
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Are my gems good for parasite? Feel like i'm not doing too much damage
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>>123489610
scratch that. I'm out of insight. welp.
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>>123487965
Third times a charm.

Need a third person for Laurence

Pass: tnxgiven
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>>123489238
Beastmode, oodles of noodles mode, Nazi confederates stomping vermin, snek whistles, ludwig the rape horse, screaming rape of Kos, pizza cutter, triple gatling ganks, Maria waifu fags, norornarona "I suck so hard please help me kill everything" kissisgeragiakssaerngi, vaati getting his shit stomped by based Miyazaki (again), the innsmouth well whales, surprisingly no Boom Hammer meta, maybe a few other things I can't remember.

Don't use all of it, obviously, that'd be a bit much.
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>>123489582
Of course it'll be dialed down. Not as an insult to Dark Souls players but nothing in Dark Souls 3 would be able to move Sanic Kos speeds because of the natural faster speeds BB has.
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Is the shield good?

Does it block 100 physical?
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>>123489571
I don't think any are missable.

You can miss out on the new tool and one of the new runes if you fuck up a certain NPC quest. But all the weapons are on unmissable NPC's or just picked up in the environment.
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>>123489736
Thanks bruv
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>>123489741
You really was fucking unlucky with them. I have 360 AR with that thing and i can still go higher if i get radials with %arc+flat arc.
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Rapehorse is living up to his name, save me /bbg/
password: turkey
I'm chilling by the door.
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>>123489720
set a password. I'll join. will be ringing the bell at the first cainhurst bonfire. meet you in 5 mins.
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>>123489717
Every time you filter nora, he changes his name and tripcode again. Just ignore or report him, it really is the only way.
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So kin + damage gems only raise the percentage up the regular maximum of 100, right?
The only use for them is to balance kin - damage gems, right?

What a fucking garbage gem type.
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I get def amy down to ripping arms out stage without getting hit but after that I cant figure out how to kill her.

arcane user with moonlight sword spamming r2s from a distance after combo.
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>still no quick way to refresh vials and bullets

Oh well
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>>123489767
>Need a third person for Laurence
you really don't...
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>people itt summoning
worse than dsp
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>walk into Laurence's cinematic with Gehrman's outfit on
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>>123489741
>ATK DOWN -7.9%
>ATK DOWN -8.2%

Gee, I wonder why.
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>>123489784
Should I just make a new one? Because a lot of this stuff doesn't happen anymore
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Anybody have any tips for NG+ Laurence? I've been throwing myself at him since yesterday and I still don't feel like I've made any real progress. I can deal with his first form just fine, but once his legs come off, all his attacks have like a 180 radius.
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>>123489972
>>123490016
but i AM dsp
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>>123488646
So does a Ayy Lmao play count as Kin? If so the cursed gems might really fuck you up in PvP
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gatling is a fucking monster in PvP
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>>123489767
are you ringing at the boss fog?
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>>123489836
But the worst parts about this aren't particularly speedy stuff. It's mostly giant fucking lingering hurtboxes, like the fucking anchor, Orphan's lightning shit and Laurence's everything.
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>>123489848
Cool, thank you! I got a bit paranoid because my friend said something about missing the Chikage-like weapon. Bloodletter was it?
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>>123489913
+kin and +beast damage runes saved me on my Arcane character, since getting decent arcane gems is ridiculous until you reach root Isz or something and get lucky
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>>123489901
pw: oldblood
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>>123490105
i am
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>>123490037
I beat him by staying back and waiting for him to flamethrower and then rushing for a few hits and then falling back.

It's tedious but it works.
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>>123490037
hit him only when he does the spit, always make sure you have room behind you as well.

If you want to speed it up stand in the sweet spot when he does 7 hit combo and keep hitting him.
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>>123488646
AWAY
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>>123490110
>Orphan's lightning
You can dodge through those. I know because i was looking over footage i recorded. I agree whale shark is crazy but i don't see what everyone problem with a reskin is. You use the same tactics.
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>>123490058
I fought at least against 10 other mushroom heads with -kin gems and i was still doing regular damage against them.
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>butcher's set with vanilla top hat

My diiiiick
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>>123489873
>>123489741
It doesn't have physical attack on it though, so i think Atk down wouldn't affect it
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>>123490148
need to make my way past the first hemwick lane bonfire. meet you in 10. just wait at the first cainhurst lantern.
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Are +Phys/+Flat ARC gems useful on the Amygdalan Arm or should I just use Tempering gems?
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>>123490113
Ya that one might be possible to miss if you kill the first NPC you meet. But leave him alone and towards the end he'll give you a key that helps access the Bloodletter.
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>>123489741
Isn't flat arcane gems the best for parasite? I get much higher AR with that than percentage gems
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>>123490160
seems like we can't connect because of runes or something. I have the impurity rune
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>>123489134
What chalice dungeons should I try for fire gems? I have the one that you find near cathedral ward buts It's like 40 damage below the bolt, how weak is Ludwig vs fire?
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>>123490361
ah, i'm in the league
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>>123486242
What does he do if he doesn't die is what I am asking. Someone, unless it was a shoop, was stood next to him being alive with a talk option.
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>>123490026
It's still surprisingly on point, despite the age.

>beast claw meta is a thing now
>micolash is still micolash
>dlc already out
>retarded lore arguments still happen
>wheel is still wheel
>chalice dungeons still happen, srrc still slow
>sliders
>gascoigne gays still get posted, but also lots of iosefka and adella
>arcane has reached the cosmos
>bloodtinge hit the gym
>stake driver meta pops up maybe once in a blue moon
>/v/ pops up sometimes
>meta arguments all day every day
>luci still exists, and somehow hasn't suffocated on his own spit

Maybe add beast vs. kin, dlc boss summons?
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>>123490358
Where can you farm those?
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Beasthunter Saif burritos look fucking FILTHY.
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Did the Japanese dub get patched in or is it only available in the Japanese version?
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>>123490026
They should happen. Lets start.

AWAY

W

A

Y
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>>123490304
Attack down affects everything, unless it specifically states PHYSICAL attack. I don't know if this effect even exists though
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>>123490304
>being this new
When it's not specified what attack it's just all different kinds of attack. That includes arcane, blunt, thrust, fire etc
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Aren't they making a new strategy guide to go with the DLC?

Wonder what will be in it.
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For those unaware, the bloodletter is a high tier weapon for pvp and very satisfying to use
https://youtu.be/G3ZTI46bsEE
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>>123490557
ah, alright thanks, time to farm more
>>123490603
I've been playing since release, just didn't know atk down would affect the parasite
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>>123487784
>"I'll activate my Insight-filtering goggles."
>"Everything looks exactly the same."
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Can I use Enlarged Head to trick crazy patients in research hall?
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>>123485881

Which NG cycle? Beat him my fifth time, solo, not minmaxing armor with a +8 weapon (in NG).
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What weapons would work for a 25/50 Skill/Arc build?
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>finish creating a 50str/25arc build for mlgs after bbg recommended it
>finds out 25str/25skill/25arc is better for mlgs

why do i listen to bbg? someone shoot me.
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>>123490708
Why do you still pretend to be good at this game?
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>>123490708
it's slow and that special attack is easy to dodge
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>>123490128
You're better off with another rune.
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>>123490495
Get uncanny kos parasite and kill brainsuckers close to the lever of layer 1 here 8y2wes5u

Then fore the triangular farm brainsucker boss at y592byza

More spoonfeeding
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>>123490808
oh fuck wait do they do something? I just put them all out of their misery.
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>>123490708
str and blt, that's the only build I don't have
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>there are people in this general literally having problems with a reskinned first boss.

Wear your best fire armor for fucks sake if you're having that much trouble
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>>123489238
Pizza Cutter meta
Laurance is OP
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How many points in arcane do you need to make the Logarius Wheel viable?
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>>123490848
Literally nothing, sorry. Blade of Mercy and Burial Blade actually have bad arcane scaling, and Fromsoft switched Bowblade to bloodtinge on us.

>>123490920
I'm pretty sure there's a brainsucker boss hiding in Ihyll. Found one once, forgot to save the glyph.
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>>123490502
Video if you guys wanna see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE6Ev3bCnIU

Def going in my next pvp comp.
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>>123489720
>>123489901
>>123490148
>>123490318

apparently I have to beat Hemwick Witches to get to Cainhurst. Fret not. I shall be swift.
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At 30 Strenght how good would a +10 whirligig saw, with top tier physical gems, be against Ng+ Laurence?
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The dlc made me start a new character already, beast transform focused, and i decided to make the thing i never tought i would..
I will make a blood build. I despise katana evelyn shit, but giant frenzy mace, bowblade and snakes are goty. What made you guysnstart a new character?
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>make lvl 43 wheel twink
>get to mensis,gather chunks and rock
>make saw cleaver +10
>decide that its time to go spelunking
>takes me 2 hours to do pthumeru,central pthumeru and lower pthumeru (fuck chalice rom)

will i make it boys? dunno if i can even handle isz ebrietas or defiled amy on this char. even had some isssues on my bl 115 with those
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>>123490708
So this is new main pvp area? Can bell maidens spawn here if Laurence alive?
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>>123490991
Well the first code is frc ihyll and the second one is frc isz
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>>123490513
usually the languages are restricted per region.
the euro version has a whole bunch of languages choices in options (but not japanese).

does NA version have any language choices? like maybe spanish or something.
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>Amygdalan Arm charged R2

This destroys the Watchers.
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>>123490867
Who's pretending? I'm highly skilled at this game
>>123490874
It's really not that slow and with wide sweeping attacks that have long range you can match up favorably against any weapon
The special attack will catch R1 spammers and overaggressive players
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>>123490492
>>123490528
Alright I'm on it
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>>123490960
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I killed my own brethren at Antietam, but it did not prepare me for this tragedy.
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>>123491075
Don't know if it's the new pvp area but it's definitely a hotspot. As long as laurence is alive you get a bell maiden
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>>123490991
> Literally nothing.

Noice.
How about if I reversed the values, 50 Skill and 25 Arc? Any value in that?
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>>123491114
It has bongistani English (isn't that the default already?), French, Spanish and Portuguese.
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IF YOU ARE GONNA SUMMON FOR HELP ATLEAST FUCKING WATCH THE CUTSCENE FIRST FUCK
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>>123491156
>kobra still pretending to be relevant
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>>123491217
ad 200 pounds and that's you Anon.
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>>123491010
okay mate, i'm waiting.
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>>123491356
Why?
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>>123489238
League Confederates in bucket helms and constable garb cutting down Executioners with their pizza cutters declaring the age of the pizza cutter and oathing with their pizza cutters.

The age of the wheel is no more for STRfags. The pizza cutter shall reign supreme.
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>0,7% of players killed Kos
HAHAHAHA
>>123491296
That's awesome.
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>>123489720
>>123489901
>>123490148
>>123490318
>>123491010

ringing
>>
is anyone in the summoning range of 139 for ludwig
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>>123490708
So this is basically BLT version of hunter's axe?
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>>123491331
Nope, there is no weapon that effectively combines skill and arcane scaling.
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>>123491491
whya gotta bully main?
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>>123491554
Feels that way yes. Also doesn't get its dash attack damage significantly reduced and has a fun L2
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>>123491523
What the fuck do you mean why, I dont wanna see the same 10 sec every single time I try and help shitty players for vermin
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>>123491551
its a little embarrassing desu
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>>123491551

I am. Password? I'll switch to my 120.
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>>123491217
not bad
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>>123491612

How about, just hear me out here, how about I mix, now just wait a second here it comes, I do a Tinge/Arc build.
What weapons would that work with?
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>>123491730
Then why are you saying people should watch it, autist?
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>>123491754
maybe later because im being pulled away for stupid family shit
ill probably post again soon to ask
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>>123491923

Alright. Just give the word when you're ready.
>>
Random question, when I go to get killed by a Snatcher to end up in Hypogean Gaol, will I have all of my current souls when I spawn or will I have to go find my souls in the Cathedral Ward?
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Nothing better than getting summoned by Ludwig's meme shitters and watching them die
>>
Quick question: any point in upgrading the shield? Does it make any difference when blocking gunk, blood, bullets?
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Why is the Beasthunter Saif moveset so fucking based?
And that shortmode standard R1 is a fucking stinger and it's glorious.
All the combos from R1 to L1 are all distance closers and makers.
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Just beat defiled Amy with nothing but Moonlight r2s and dodges, feels fucking great man.
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>>123492098
Yeah it's great too bad it isn't S skill scaling.
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>>123491823
You're a classy man anon, but sadly there are no weapons that combine those two. Weapons with bloodtinge scaling can't be converted to arcane, even though the reiterpallasch has B arc scaling.

But if you just want to be a bizarre special snowflake what plays by his own rules, you can get a reiterpallasch and stuff it full of brainsucker gems. It won't get arcane scaling, but the flat arcane damage adds on to the bullet damage for about 150 extra damage.
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>>123487784
pretty much every shortcut in the game is a castlevania throwback
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>>123491540
wp :^)
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>>123491540

fell off. shit. pick me up at the lantern. we got the shortcut.
>>
So for a fresh 50str/25skl build what weapon would you recommend? Or if anything what's good fun? Most of the new dlc seems really fun. I think technically LHB is still the strongest weapon for these stats, too bad dlc didn't have much quality love
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>>123492051
You can't upgrade the shield.
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I highly recommend the Gatling Gun. This is at 25 BT and 31% blood attack gem. Raining death up and down these stairs is how I've spent the last few hours
>>
I really hate this game third time around.
Got it on release and beat it twice within the first week and a half and now picked it back up for the DLC.
I really don't know how I enjoyed this game.
>Tons of one shotting even at full HP
>Enemies can cancel attacks mid animation and perform another one instantly
>The thing to pick up your bloodechos is so fucking small and blends into the ground it's almost impossible to grab mid combat
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>>123492307
ringing.
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>>123492324
Despite the A scaling on Moonlight blade its still quality, only r2s / jump attack and l2s scale off of arc so if you like the look go for it.
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>>123492328
wow the bullet consumption is a lot lower than i thought it would be
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>>123492360
>one shotting
You need more vitality, obviously. Raise it to 30 asap, and just use upgrades and gems to keep your weapon damage high.
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>>123492360
>I got killed and lost my echoes

abloobloo
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>>123491217
Looks good anon but you need a gun of some sort
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>>123491997
BUMP
>>
WHEEL

WHEEL
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What gem slots are best for arcane?
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Anyone having network problems?
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>>123491041
The Rakuyo. Been waiting for a GOOD SKL weapon.
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>>123492448
Yeah only have to refresh every 2-3 fights
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>>123492328
It's twice as weak on 5 BLT but still very usable for stunning people.
>>
If you've killed the bosses of an area can you still be summoned by someone who hasn't?
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>>123492529
I think you lose them.

>>123492858
Yeah.
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>>123492858
of course
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>>123492328
It's gank squad weapon
>>
Saw someone mention BL43 as the twink level in the last thread. What builds/weapons are actually effective at that level?
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>>123492328
>this with 50 blt
fuck
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>>123491481
What game is that? It looks disgusting.
>>
I'm new to the game with the expac. I know noobness is frowned upon but can someone at least explain a little about chalice dungeons and gems? I don't really get how I'm supposed to reliably find good gems or how loot in chalice dungeons work. Or how making Chalice dungeons really work.

Like, I want some fire damage gems and haven't the slightest clue how to farm them.
>>
>>123492307
thanks for the help.
>>
MLGS/Beast-Cutter Maria from Cainhurst-Blitz here. It's been a pleasure.
>>
Holy shit this game gets dark after Ludwig

This healing church shit makes Silent Hill look like Elmo's Letter Adventure
>>
>no church cannon webms at all so far
is it that bad?
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>tfw finally beat Orphan of Kos in NG+++ solo

Holy shit, what a fight.
I cant understand why someone would ruin that fight summoning.
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>>123492446
I thought about moonlight but it needs 14 arc and I only have base. Don't really want to go above 98 so mlgs is out of question
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>>123492210
Shame.
I'm not so much looking to be a special snowflake, I just want to use Arcane + another stat that isn't Strength.
Arc+Tinge coulda been cool though.

Can't decide now between pure skill, pure arc or a strength/tinge build for my next character.

Fuckin ell.
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>>123493069
There are two kinds of Chalice Dungeons; Normal dungeons and Root dungeons. Root dungeons are randomly generated, normal ones are static. Each dungeon has a glyph, which is basically it's entry code. If you find the code online for a root dungeon with loot you want, input that code when you go to make a chalice dungeon, and you'll get that specific dungeon. The only catch is that you have to make your own dungeon of that kind at least once. For example, you would need to make your own Pthumeru Root Dungeon before you could use someone else's glyph for one.
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>>123492186
Eh. I like it the most out of the other weapons I've had for my dex build.
It just feels more natural to use than those, to the point where I've not even used them since I picked this up.
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>>123492649
Radial radial waning.

Radial radial triangle for flat arc abuse.
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Oh god Laurence is tearing my butthole asunder, please help me I just want to get off kos's(or as some say kosm's) wild nightmare. Password is bbg123, ringing at the boss fog, I'll be waiting for at least 2 people. It's ng++ Laurence (I just wanted to do the dlc on my main, Miyazaki why would you do this
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>>123493146
Speaking of Ludwig, I know he merged with his Horse...somehow, but that still doesn't explain why one of its back legs is upside down.
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who /church pick/ here?
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Where does one find brain fluid?
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>>123493149
It just requires a specific build. I will make a 50STR/50BLT character later to see how is it.
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>>123492898
>>123492927
Wiki's a dirty liar then. Just having some summoning problems and trying to rule things out.
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>>123493430
Plip, plop, plip.
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>>123492728
Same.

Went in for the Rakuyo. But fell for the Church Pike.
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>>123493069
Chalices that don't have "root" in the name are story chalices. They are shitty and have shitty loot, but you need to clear them so you get the root chalices. You get the first Pthumeru from Bloodstarved Beast, the first Loran from Amygdala, and the first Isz from Ebrietas. All other chalices are found within the story dungeons.

Root chalices are randomized, and can have great loot and gems. The more secondary rites you stack on, the better the gems. Save your secondary rite materials until you hit the depth 5 root dungeons so you can make cursed+fetid+rotted dungeons for the absolute best gems. Chalices that say "sinister" aren't good because you can't stack rites, but can be used if you want to sit around and wait for invaders all day. Make a single sinister dungeon and delete it if you ever intend to use the Short Root Ritual Chalice.

The SRRC can be bought for 10 insight once you clear the very first Pthumeru chalice. It lets you co-op and/or invade people who are inside dungeons without you actually needing to enter their dungeon.

Note that chalice dungeons are entirely optional and you don't need to do any of them to beat the game.
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>>123493267
So I should google search for a root dungeon with good fire gems?
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>>123493430
The blob being guarded by a hunter, the blob up in the rafters, and whatsherface after you give her two brain fluids. She comes back to life, I promise. Like, for real, I'm not joking.
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/r/ing some church pick webms. Im curious to see what all the hype is about.
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If you're building Skill/Arcane is it better to put most of your points in Skill or Arcane?
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>>123493520
Thanks. I only really care because it seems some bosses are chalice only, and I enjoy boss fights, and because it seems you can't get shit for good gems without them, and I need gems to play around with elements. And since my character right now is arcane, I feel elemental gems are a big deal/.
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>>123493490
Splish, splash, splish, splash

That one crazy guy by the flower on the balcony seems like he's having such a good time.
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>>123493430

Plip a plopper.
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>>123493193
>I cant understand why someone would ruin that fight summoning
that's how I felt about all of the bosses in the DLC. I feel so bad stunlocking Maria and Ludwig to death where they can't do shit with my whirlgig saw. I did every fight solo the first time and I'm glad I did because they would have a completely different feel if I summoned.
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>>123493605
Skill. Sk/Arc weps are deceiving in making you think arc.
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>>123493528
Check the google documents in the OP.
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>>123492954
It only scales with D though, even at +10. I was thinking though, before I got this gem I had a 31% blood with HP-9 and i was testing it out, I noticed that even if I was wearing the gun on my back and two handing my right hand weapon, the -hp effect still counted. That means that potentially you could use a 31% gem on the gun, and use Blood scaling UP gems on the right hand weapon. If they count, you could easily push the gun to A scaling if not S. Couple THAT with 50 BLT and it would be ridiculously broken.
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>>123493261
There's pure strength, pure skill, pure bloodtinge, pure arcane, str/skl, skl/str, str/blt, blt/skl, arc/str, str/arc, and I think that's it.

>>123493296
>>123492649
Waning arcane gems are super rare and worse than triangle arcanes. Radial/radial/triangle is best for arcane.
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>>123493528
Just google a master list of chalice dungeon glyphs. There's one on the wikia, one on leddit, one on Google docs, etc.
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>>123493684
The unaggressive things? is killing them a bad idea or what?
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>>123493753
>>123493792
Thanks. Will Chalice dungeons kick my ass pretty hard? I'm level 50 and am in the Forbidden woods on my first playthrough.
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>>123493372
ringing.

somehow it's taking quite a while. Im right in front of fog
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>>123493796

Doesn't matter and it's the right thing to do.
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Do the magical arcane attacks from the kos parasite scale all the way to 99 like the regular hunter tools or does it hit the soft cap at 50 arcane?
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>lvl 45
need some help with Ludwig for a fast kill.
pass- abraham
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>>123493789

You don't know what you are talking about. The best setup for damage is 2 cold abyssals(radial) and the 24%+flat waning you get from darkbeast/hotdog. They outdamage the 27.2%s.
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>>123493714
>that's how I felt about all of the bosses in the DLC.
I want to feel the same way, I really do, but NG+ Laurence is tearing my asshole asunder. It's passed the threshold of "challenging" and it's just beginning to piss me off. At least with Orphan of Kos(m) and Maria I felt like I was doing damage and making progress. Made it feel like I was doing something. My minmaxed Ludwig only does fucking 500 per swing to this Vicar fuck.
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>>123491973
Yo im here
the password is 221
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>>123493770
you're dumb
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>mfw my BL135 character gets more activity than my BL80
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>>123493924
Well I killed the one at the sunflower and he didn't drop anything. One about the ones on the second floor?
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>>123493193
>tfw summon an alien bro
>we chain backstab orphan until it's dead
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>>123493887
Yeah, summoning has been taking a while for me too, hopefully we get another soon
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>>123493959
oh I forgot about Laurence. yeah summon as many people for that shit fight as you can.
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>>123493861
Considering the ones you start with are around Old Yharnam's level, nah, you should be good.
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>press circle to dodge
>nothing happens

WOW
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>>123493962
>>123491973
I should probably say im ringing by the lamp in the church
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>>123493978
What makes you say that?
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>>123494082
You better stop playing anon. It's bad for business.
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>requires 28 str to use
>only scales with bloodtinge
bravo
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>>123493952
ringing
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>>123494082
A A A A A A AH AH AH A A A A
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>>123494076
K thanks. I went down two floors and killed two stupidly easy bosses. in the basic pthumeru chalice dungeon I made. I guess I'll keep going until it gets actually hard.
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>>123490016
>dsp
didn't he rage quit already or what
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>>123493656
You dun goofed making an arcane as your first character, their gem grind takes forever.

Some tips: get your depth 5 root chalices, then farm the following bosses for the following gems. Remember that stamina cost up, and atk down vs. beasts/kin are preferred curses since they have the least effect on your weapon damage.

CFR (cursed+fetid+rotted) Ebrietas for +24% arcane and flat arc secondary (triangle)

CFR depth 5 layer 1-2 Brainsucker in Isz and Ihyll for +70 flat arcane and arcane secondary (triangle and radial)

CFR Loran Darkbeast in depth 5 Loran for +24% bolt and flat bolt secondary, or layer 3 Abhorrent Beast with +24% bolt and double flat bolt secondary (both waning)

CFR depth 5 Watchdog in Loran for +24% fire gems with flat fire secondary (waning)

CFR depth 5 layer 3 Pthumerian Descendant and Pthumerian Elder in Ihyll for +XX arcane scaling gems (radial)

If you're a masochist or a madman, you can farm the Merciless Watcher trio boss in Ihyll or Isz dungeons for extremely rare pure elemental gems.
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>>123493069
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Can those Fishman that drop bolt gems drop waning or only radial/triangle?
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>>123494256
It doesn't really get hard until Ailing Loran. Fuck the Loran Darkbeast. Motherfucker opens with a lunge that reaches the fog gate from his starting position and can kill in one hit.
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>>123494338
>CFR depth 5 layer 1-2 Brainsucker in Isz and Ihyll
There's an Ihyll Brainsucker boss?
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>>123493770
Absolutely not, you moron. The hp loss curse was still in effect because you still had the weapon equipped, even if it was on your back. The effect won't go away unless you switch the weapon out or unequip it.

No, +blood gems on your right hand weapon will not affect your gun, or vice versa.

The best gem you could put into your gatling would probably be a Warm gem for boosted bloodtinge scaling.
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Has anyone tried out the amgydala arm? Does ARC scaling apply to all it's attacks or just certain ones?
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Is there a Level "Meta" so to speak? I'm making a build for PvP and I don't want to overlevel
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>After Maria's suicide, Gerhamn in his grief he made the deal with the Moon presence to act as the hunters guide in return for being able to spend the rest eternity with Maria
>Gehrman wanted his doll to have fierce and feisty personality of Maria that made him fall in love with her
>instead the moon presence in its complete failure to understand the human mind gave him that simpering demure vacuous anime sexbot mother figure, because the great ones ended up projecting their yearning for a mother figure onto the doll
>Gehrman now avoids the sight of the doll whenever he can, and speaks of it like a common object to be used by other hunters and discarded
>all Gherman had to do to be reunited with Maria was to simply give in to the bloodlust, and cross into the nightmare, where Maria waits for him in the clock tower

"You see, whether you can bring a doll like this to life or not, being able to think up this kind of mind, it depends on whether or not you can say to yourself, ‘Oh, yeah, girls like this exist in the waking world. If you don’t spend time watching real people, you can’t do this, because you’ve never seen it. Some great ones spend their entire existence interested only in birthing a child. Almost all dream realms are created with hardly any basis in observing real humans, you know. It’s produced by great ones who can’t stand looking at other humans. And that’s why the dream is full of living failures. The doll was a mistake!"

Miyazaki
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>>123494338
>If you're a masochist or a madman, you can farm the Merciless Watcher trio boss in Ihyll or Isz dungeons for extremely rare pure elemental gems.
They drop elemental triangulars quite reliably. Up to the point i was mad that i wasn't getting fucking physicals on my STR character.
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GUYS, PUT ON THE CROWN OF ILLUSIONS AND WALK UP TO THE ALCOVE IN THE NIGHTMARE CHAPEL.
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>>123493957
Those are for fire and bolt damage, nimrod. The best arcane damage gems only come from Isz dungeons.
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>>123494541
80, 120, and 150 are the three metas I've seen posted most often. Especially 80.
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>>123494483
I hope you fart on your dad
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>>123494246
He's dead.
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Is this game worth buying a system for?
My pc is a toaster and i'm having a time deciding between buying a ps4 to play bloodborne or just waiting to play DaS3 at 60 fps.
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>>123494541
Just don't go past 140 as at this level you can invade 120.
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>>123494594
What happens?
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>>123494445
Yes. It's super rare compared to the Isz one though, because Ihyll has such a larger boss pool.
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>>123494715
Do you have a glyph?
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>>123494654
Good job Anons.
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>>123494338
I couldn't resist wanting to use the ayy form or MLGS. MLGS has been my go to since Armored Core 2.
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>>123494657
PS4's will be $50 off at GS for Black Friday if you're in the US, if that helps any.

As for whether or not it's worth it, you're asking this in /bbg/. I think most people here would say it is. Head to /dsg/ and you'll hear a different story. Personally, this is my GOTY, especially with the DLC being as amazing as it is, however I wouldn't buy an entire system for one game. If there's other shit on the PS4 you want, then absolutely get one. If not, just wait for DS3.
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>>123494803
Nope, haven't made an Ihyll dungeon since I finished grinding gems and I don't intend to go back.
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>>123494082
>>123494220
>>123494248
A A A A AHAHA *burp* A A A A A A A A HAHAHAHAH *fart*
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IS there a deadline for any of these NPC quests?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sshsKHNKlJQ

Did DSP do another Sentinels with the DLC?
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>>123494702
Maria and the doll show up and one starts licking your balls while the other is working your shaft.
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>>123495023
Speaking of

I need some Maria lewds. Pronto
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Anyone else severely disappointed by beast mode?

It looks cool but that's about it.

>The attacks are slower but have no increase in damage numbers
>There's no charged attack in the transformed mode
>The jumping attack is so telegraphed and doesn't track so your opponent would have be out-fucking-skilled tier stupid to get hit by it
>The built in roar only slightly staggers instead of knocks back, and the animation last so long that by the time you can attack your opponent can already dodge
>The only thing it does better is it has a bit more range and you now have two transforming attacks as you should
It should have been some kind of Gascoigne-tier Berserk mode that slowly drained health or something.
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>>123493520
>make a single sinister dungeon and delete it if you ever intend to use the Short Root Ritual Chalice.
Not him but why?
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>>123494594
epic ruse anon
you actually made me try it
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Someone wants to help me in Cainhurst? Pw is bbgg
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>>123495150
The running r2 is just enough for me. Pure beauty
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>>123494918
>it's bad for bidness
>my office
> A A A AH A H A A A A A
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>>123494702
A young master logarius leaps out of the coffin in the centre and deletes all your game data.
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>>123495004
>fatrolling in DaS2
fucking how
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>>123495198
Because sometimes people make sinister dungeons, and you can't enter them at all unless you've used the sinister rite before. For some reason Sinister is counted among the C/F/R rites for root dungeons, so if you make any one sinister dungeon you can enter all sinister dungeons even if you don't have the corresponding chalices.

It just widens the net a little more, which SRRC desperately needs.
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Is there anyone that can help my level 10 beat Paarl?

First time going through Hypogean and didn't realize it was the Painted World equivalent and I get locked in the place until I can beat the boss.
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>>123495150
Attacks are way faster, have more reach and propel you into enemies. There's no charged attack but there's two separate powerful lunging attacks, one of which is the jump attack. The moveset is so, so much better than the lumbering old moveset, you have to dash around though: it's always been all about chaining attacks, but now the moveset is designed with that in mind. Keep messing with it, I don't know how anyone could be disappointed with it, it's an improvement in every regard
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>>123494898
Thanks, i guess i'll get it for the inevitable console exclusives anyway.
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>>123495402
Light the lamp and warp out you moron.
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>>123495487
He may not know where it is.

>>123495402
Top of the spiral stairs.
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>>123494378
Please respond
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>>123495407
>Attacks are way faster
You've never actually used the vanilla claws have you? They were significantly faster albeit had short range.
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>>123495402
There's a lamp in that area.
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>>123494113

Still there? I'll get on right now.
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>>123495565
>>123495615
Bless you anons.
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I ask again: Do brain fluids drop off of the unaggresive things in the patient room? I don't wanna be killing things that don't need killing, unless it actually affects nothing.
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>>123495790
Only the plip plop brains
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>>123495790
Pretty sure brain fluids only drop off the things that are just heads.
They won't die even if you kill them.
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>>123495790
Have you considered using google to answer your questions?

Just the heads, and only the ones you can talk to.
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Been trying to get help with NG+ Laurence but nobody is offering, so does anybody need help with Orphan? I want to feel like I'm doing something in this fucking game.

>>123495790
None of the "NPC" patients drop anything besides the ones that are just blobs, but killing them does nothing either. Do what you want.
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>>123495790
Just get to the plip, the plop, the plippity the plop to gots to hop.
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Who else is hopelessly addicted to this game all over again? I've been up for more than 24 hours playing the DLC: playing PVE, in awe at the new bosses, trying out the new weapons (Simon's Bowblade is incredible), co-operating, and invading. I think it's time for bed now, but just glancing at my turned-off TV makes me want to play some more. I'm framing the Bloodborne poster that came with my PS4.
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>>123495637
ill ring again now
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>>123495951
The plip, the plop, the plippy, the plippy to the plip, plip, plop, and you don't stop the plop.
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In the patient ward how do you open the far door on the bottom floor?
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>>123495402
>>123495615
>>123495565
>>123495487
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE MEMORIES CAME FLOODING BACK

I did the exact same thing. First playthrough got to gaol cleared the area but couldnt find a way out. (idk how i missed the lamp) Then I made it to paarl. I got trashed fucked and mutilated sideways by that fucking boss at least 20 times.

But when i fucking beat him with 0 fucking blood vials cause i used them all 18 deaths ago.

I fucking screamed so fucking hard I could feel my lungs break.

My black pants turned white after that.
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>>123495925
Alright thanks, anon.

>>123495898
Because asking a board I'm already in and getting a semi-direct and concise answer is easier.
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Who /splish sploosh/ here?
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>>123496050
You got it. Good to bed
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>retard sitting back firng magic that does little dmg.
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Fight club with new weapons when?
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WHO /SAIF/ here?
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>>123496024
Iktf f.am
this DLC completes the game and adds so much in quality in tools, weapons and covenants that I can see people being as actively playing in months as they do now
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So who else noticed that the spellcaster of that little gank duo after Ludwig is probably Amelia? She's wearing all white, kneeling in front of Laurence's skull, and she chants the same exact prayer that beasty Amelia does.
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>>123495637
>>123496049
god damn it im sorry
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>>123494357
Thanks man.
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Need help with Logarius. Pw is asd22.
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>>123496304
I'm in. Where is a good arena in the DLC? The first lantern?
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I... I can't do this /bbg/

I thought I was good at this game.
I got Platinum and everything.
Did all of it by myself.

But this guy.
No...

no
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>>123496306
Aye.
Based moveset.
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Help I need blood chunks.
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>>123496481
As long as Maria isn't dead, you can summon in the Failure's boss arena. Would that work?
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>>123496306
>Those lunges in transformed mode
It's a godsend for getting in quick, it's my favorite DLC weapon that I've found.
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>>123496584
Not really considering pretty much everyone's already killed Maria
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>>123496572
Great Isz chalice
first boss
put eye runes on and remake it until you got enough
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>>123495150
You can backstab with the jumping attack so I don't really miss the charged R2 on the claws.
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I need help with Lawrence in NG++.
If you help me i will help you later.
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>>123496660
What about the Lighthouse lamppost?
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>>123496306
I've been trying to figure out how to have sex with this thing.
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>>123496541
>>123496592
What's the best version of it for gems?
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>>123496478
Ringing in front of the fog gate, I would be very happy if some hunter could help me.
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>>123496765
Most people here have already killed Orphan of Kos as well
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>>123496823
If you have a + shaped dick then it might just work
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>>123496682
Thanks, and it just occurred to me it's better to beat first boss, remove chalice and start again right?

I'm using ptwrx6b, the cursed Isz which is better I think.
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>>123496306
I want to start a new character just for this weapon. Can you get to it right after you unlock the DLC? Can you run past everything?
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>>123496831
Best version? Do you mean either transformed mode or un-transformed?

I'm not sure what you mean by this.
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Does the one bag man looking for his eyes do anything (on the first level)?
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Anyone on ng++++ wanna help with Ludwig?
SL:197 Pass:bsf2015
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>>123496831
circle,circle, triangle like every other phy build
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>>123496947
Aye
beat the boss, remove it and re-make it
etc
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>>123496963
I have yet to get around this one choke point after the machine guns, but that's essentially all that's blocking the way.
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>>123497036
Gem version. Normal, Lost, Uncanny?
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>>123496963
>Can you get to it right after you unlock the DLC? Can you run past everything?
yes, but good luck with everything 1 shotting you
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>>123496963
It's on the way to ludwig, right before the two giants in the small bloodswamp area after going up a ladder. It's pretty obvious which ladder it is; It's the one that you go up and the camera zooms out pretty far and you see the moon.

When you get up that ladder, I /think/ you go to the left, and jump onto the lower building and it should be there.

But yeah, you can run to it.
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>>123497237
>>123496963
just beware of the hunter on that roof, he jumps you so grab it and book it
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STUPID FUCKING WELL GIANTS CANT BEAT ME WITHOUT RUNNING TO THEIR PARTNER
FUCKING FAGGOTS
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>>123497373
Shaman Bone Blade.
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>>123497373
Just fist their bad boy bottoms.
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>>123497373
When he runs off, jab a shaman bone in him
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So is it viable to actually invade with the standard 18% gems, or do you just NEED to farm chalices?

Both on "meta" levels and just general 30-50 invasions in random spots
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>>123484373
Thats fine, on most weapons 25/25 is better than 50+min req in the other
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>>123497152
I've not done nearly anything with Chalice dungeons. I did like two of them, got to the third one's first boss and... well than I made this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgKiLdGL19g

I'm overdue to try it again. But right now, fuck that guy.
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>>123497447
>>123497485
i guess im retarded then, thanks
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>>123497373
worst and best enemy in the game at the same time
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>>123497491
They're fine. You might have some issues if you go much further than 100, though.
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>>123496507
Ludwig is piss easy, compared to the other bosses in Bloodborne: The Old Hunters™.
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>>123497491
Meta levels you're more likely to need chalice gems since everyone else will have them

BL30-50 invasions you could get away with 18%
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>>123497491
so gentle~
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>>123497073
pls

i'm standing next to the lamp near him
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>A landed Bow charge shot sets up a backstab animation

Gank squads are gonna be on a whole new level with snipers triggering backstabs for them
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>>123497491
Max gems are pretty necessary at higher levels famigo, but the winter lanterns in the dlc drop rank 6 droplets for phys so you can have almost top gem damage for random invasions at like 30-60 with those
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So is saif mostly skl or str focused? Got a burial/spamblades char full skl basicly that id use.
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>>123497831
It's skill focused.
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>Beast Roar
>Charged tricked Amygdalan Arm R2
This is by far my new favorite combo. Makes scrubs and PvE baddies shit themselves and still does alright in actual duels.
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>>123497831
Guess retard
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what are the chances someone would be able to beat ludwig at lvl 15-20
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>>123497617
>>123497679
>>123497808
Coolio

>>123497709
...and not so gentle.
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>>123497951
Doable, you might need a friend though.
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>>123497951
You can beat the game at bl4
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Aside from str should I go for skl or arc with Beast Claws and how much should I invest?
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>>123497951
100 percent if you are insanely good or memorized the fight.
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Why is Undead Giant the worst?
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My Arcane character, Schierke.
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>>123498085
50str/25skl
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>>123497951
100% and chances are you'll have less deaths to Ludwig than DSP
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>>123498170
Chin is too long.
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Can someone be a doll and take a screenshot of the guidance rune for me? I'm away from my ps4 until Saturday
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>>123498076
>ludwig at bl4
Chalices may be necessary

>>123498085
Go with skill unless you really want the beast roar. Get around 20.
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So everything in bloodborne happened because of this fishing village I just got too?

Feels so different from the rest of the game, like they put a big shade over the screen too.
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>>123498149
He is
then I fought him with tentacle rape and kept throwing purple skulls and he went down pretty hard.
>>123498170
good lord no.
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Just ordered the goty edition that has basegame and DLC. what am I in for? i started this series with demon's souls. will my prior experience be of any use? also post builds and pro tips pls
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>Loch is the scottish word for Lake
>lake rune grants magic resistance
>Ludwig is based on a kelpie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelpie

capthca: Lakes and oceans
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Ive never tried a bloodtinge build before and Im starting now, what weapons do you guys use until you can get to chikage/bloodletter/evelyn?
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>>123498202
>>123498268
Thanks
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>>123497970
I love the way the character breaks the grab on these guys
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>>123494898
Its literally 300 bucks at amazon right now for the uncharted bundle. Probably drop even lower lots of places.
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>>123498283
Kos is the source of Kin stuff, without a doubt. Still not sure if beasts are the result of meddling with blood from a different Great One or not.

>>123498332
Take this picture for tips, then abandon the thread before spoilers start flying about. >>123493520
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>>123498265
Pls it's not on the wiki
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>>123498332
You'll transition more easily if you played a dodge/dex build.

And it also depends how comfortable you are fighting bosses that are all faster than flamelurker
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>>123498283
i loved that area, it was pretty much innsmouth
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>>123498406
...or when he doesn't
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>>123498332
you are in for one of the best experiences you will have with a game in a LOOONG time. At least that's how it was for me. I started with DeS as well. You'll love it. Has that spook factor that made me fall in love with the series. also GTFO before you get spoiled if you care.
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>>123498410
That's literally the same price. They're $350 usually. Take $50 off. Wow! It's $300!
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>>123498283
Given how the whole nightmare is about the sins of the old hunters, a bunch of guys probably went to town on that village and killed everyone, including Kos. The way I see it, the night of the hunt (though not necessarily beasts in general) is basically Orphan's revenge for having his mother stolen from him.
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>>123498497
Well yeah, but the idea is you can get it RIGHT NOW for 50 bucks under the usual price. All consoles are cheap right now.
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>>123498445
Pls bb
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>>123498550
Item descriptions say that kos' dead body washed up ashore.
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So if I go Arcane I basically just jam elemental gems in shit and spam "spells" and beat shit to death with fire hammers and crap?
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>>123498550
Item description says Kos was dead to begin with, the fishman before the first lamp says something about Byrgenwerth experimenting on Kos.
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>>123498581
Sure, but that doesn't include shipping fees. As opposed to waiting until literally tomorrow to just go pick one up.
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>>123498706
Experimented on her corpse
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>>123496507
Wait til Laurence
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requesting facesliders for asian male
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>>123498687
Don't use the fire hammer, it's crap. If you want to spam spells, go to at least 70 arcane because that shit uses completely different softcaps from weapons. 99 arcane actually isn't unreasonable if you want your ACBs to blow even Ebreitas' mind. 50 arcane is just for elemental weapons and having room for vitality.

>>123498784
Right, meant to say that.
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>>123498332
Speed is the name of the game here. Enemies, bosses too, are fast, have long reach and are highly aggressive. You need to learn to dodge and R1 spam.

>>123498732
So sign up for the free month of prime.

Its free 1 day shipping on any order over 50 bucks.
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>>123498356
the saws
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>>123498550
Kos was already dead, Byrgenwerth just wanted to fuck shit up by doing horrible experiments on the fish people and trying to move Kos's body
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>nightmare realm personalities are gross corruptions of what the person was like in the real world
>Micolash was a dedicated scholar and leader
>in the nightmare realm he was a howling madman
>in the real world Maria was a conscientious and caring individual, as seen by her taking on the task of caring for the failed experiments of the research hall, leading them to all revere her, as well as her suicide from the guilt of he actions at the fishing village and failing to cure the experiments, going as far as to throw her weapon down a well
>she abhored blood magic, probably due to her knowledge of her Cainhurst ancestry and what the nobles got up to in the castle. To get as far away from it as possible, she became a church hunter
>her nightmare realm has her utilise many powerful forms of blood magic whilst protecting the hunter from discovering the secret of the fishing village
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>>123498550
Kos was already dead
>>123498706
Actually, i think he was referring to the experiments done on the fishing village's inhabitants, given the fact that he gives you the accursed brew.
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So, should I go for the whirligig or the boom hammer? Making a STR character
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>>123498847
I was going to focus on alien mode and MLGS. Mostly just wanted to use spells "for fun". I don't think I can go, what, 99/25 Arc/Str, 12 skill for MLGS and then get a decent amount of Endurance and vit without going to too high a level. Like, basically should stop around 120?
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>>123498880
She only attacks the hunter because he disturbs her corpse. I imagine being alive and bothered after committing suicide is a bit of a piss off.
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>>123498626
>>123498870
Doesn't necessarily mean she wasn't subdued and killed at sea before that, though I guess Orphan would be pretty pissed at someone that experimented on her corpse regardless of whether or not they'd killed her.
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>>123498969
MLG is much more of a quality weapon than an ARC weapon. Only a couple of its attacks scale off of ARC
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Guys, I played through the game thrice and have no idea what it is about. HOW the fuck? Do I have to read other sources? I don't think I got anything besides the cutscenes, doll monologues and 4-5 gray stuff text on the floor. How is the story being told? Through item descriptions?
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>>123489238
You should have people who are almost hollow asking for help with Orphan.

Also someone tries to talk about the beast mode and he then gets drowned out by people doing jojo poses with the Milkweed rune.
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>>123498847
>70 arcane
what?
seriously the first time I hear someone suggest such a number on a arc build
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>>123498969

>>123484997
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>>123499142
How would they kill her at the sea anyway? It's an ancient god from space, not a fucking whale. Also, why would byrgenwerth dump her body in the ocean afterwards? This is a really stupid theory.
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>>123498926
Personally i would say go with the whirligig, both weapons are really fun to use. You caould also +10 both later in the game if you so wish
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>>123499225
he's right, but its only if you wanna use tools as they dont have softcaps pretty much
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>>123483984
>almost done with the fishing hamlet
>contemplate the greatness of the dlc
>arrive at the final boss
>here it comes
>what otherworldly abomination will I have to fight?
>white zomie with wings and cancer-club
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>>123499142
The thing is Kos might not be dead

Every great one is destined to lose their child, this might mean that every child of a great one is born within a different realm, Kos might be alive somewhere in another world and her body is just a manifestation of the Orphan missing its mother.
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>>123499225
>seriously the first time I hear someone suggest such a number on a arc build
Im guessing you don't come here often, the breakpoints in arc are 50, 70 and then 99
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Is it worth investing four more points into Strength to use the Bloodletter, as a pure Bloodtinge build? I'm using Chikage and Simon's Bowblade right now which both scale off of Bloodtinge and Skill, so should I just not worry about bringing a Strength/Bloodtinge weapon into the mix and wait until I make a build tailored around that? My Strength is only at 10 right now, the requirement for Chikage, and my skill is at 15 for Simon's Bowblade.
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>>123498978
Sternenrotz

>>123498969
If you're going to spam spells and use arcane Holy Moonlight Blade, you aren't going to need that 25 strength. Endurance over 20 isn't necessary unless you don't mind being over level 100. Keep in mind that the only arcane damage you'll get out of HMB is the R2s with the projectiles and stuff, and those don't do physical damage anyways.

>>123499179
Read the in-game notes. The whole point of your adventure is to stop the scourge of beasts. You eventually learn that the School of Mensis is trying to finish a ritual that will beckon the red moon closer, that the red moon getting close is what triggers beasthood, and that the linchpin of this ritual is a special baby named Mergo. In order to stop the ritual, you have to kill the baby. If you want to stop the ritual forever, you have to kill the moon.
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I can't decide which weaponfu to give my blood rock to.

Both the Rakuyo and the Bowblade look like they're worthy of being +10, but i'm scared to commit.
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WHAT'S WITH THESE RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR ATTACKS AND FULLSCREEN UNDODGEABLE ATTACKS
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>>123498926

Whirligig.
Best STR weapon of the dlc
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>>123499389
So just stop at 16 strength, 20 end get ARC as high as whatever and then, what 30-40 vit?
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>>123499358
My exact same response. I don't care how challenging or great the fight is, it's a complete disappointment both visually and musically.

Maria felt more of a final boss than Kos, even though she was pretty easy.
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>>123499396
Just get another blood rock through a CD
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>>123483984
So after like 10 tries I managed to get bastard of Kos down to his second phase and...It's really easy compared to the first? If I didn't run out of blood vials I'd probably do it, but alas I ran right into the cancer rain.
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Vitality and your damage stat should be the same value, right?
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>>123499492
End might not be terribly necessary since spell spam doesn't cost stamina. Unless you want to focus on shooting moonlight waves, in which case 50 arc should be enough for that anyways because it's a weapon.
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>can't open NAT
>can barely summon people as a result of this

Laurence lives another day
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>>123499557
I don't really disagree. The fight is "fun" as fuck, and its actually pretty hard, but he looks goofy. It looks like a basic Hollow with a weird scythe club thing.
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>>123499396
>Bowblade
Don't worth it. It's bad. Rakuyo is good and it's not in SSStier, so you will not be a scum like chikagesawspear shitters
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>>123499630
The third phase is the one you have to worry about, first is a cakewalk and second isn't so bad. Third is wailing death
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>>123499682
>It's bad
Shitter confirmed
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Can we keep exploring the DLC after beating it? Do we need to do every NPC quest first?
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>>123499696
>Third

I'm sorry what
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>>123499745
Bowblade has less moves than fuckin stakeshit. Wanna be bored to death?
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>>123499682
Bowblade is based as fuck. You must just be bad.
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>Beast roar + research hall catwalks
It's Anor Londo all over again
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so it's 25STR/50ARC good for the moonlight blade?
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>>123499898
Show your skill webms. Not just fancy words.
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>>123499972
Other way around.
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Any1 wants to get some free vermin and help me kill Ludwig?

Ringing @ the mist door to ludwig, pass = horsemeat
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>>123499824
The music will change and e will become mental
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Alright, I've got a question: I've got a gem that gives Phys ATK up+22.3% and Add bolt ATK+12.5

When I add the gem to my Chikage, I get 12 bolt ATK and get the percentage boost to my phys ATK, but when I add it to my Rakuyo then it completely kills my phys ATK and gives me 120-something in bolt ATK instead. What gives? Is Chikage special somehow?
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>>123500085
Make that horsemea
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>>123500103

Well

Shit.

I guess I gotta get gud again. At least he's better than Ludwig.
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>>123499972

If you only like a quarter of its moveset
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>>123500054
25/25/50 is better than 50/50
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Anyone mind helping me with Laurence? NG level 70, Password is thzn1
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>>123499630
>get him down to last phase easily
>die everytime due him just fucking jumping around flinging red garbage at me

FUCKING SINH 2.0
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>Keep reading everyone bitching about pretty much every boss in the dlc on new game
>at the same time keep hearing the shitters have arrived
>conflicted as to whether this dlc is actually hard or not

I won't be able to play consistently until next week, and I'm going through first on my 115 skill build with burial blade on ng2+, am I going to be fucked? I've literally never co-oped for a boss in my entire time playing thus far, and I like to beat things solo the first time around, what should I expect?

I messed around a bit with the old hunters and that giant tentacle head church hunter thing nad it seems challenging but perhaps not as bad as some say.

As a final note, are you supposed to be able to find vermin if you aren't wearing impurity?
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>>123500237
woops, i mean 25/25/25 opposed to 50str/25arc
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Is there an easy way to get insight? I'm in desperate need of more.
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>>123500219
>>123500085
what level are you
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>>123500237
Actually, 50 str does more damage than 25/25 str/skill. Without any gems, you'll get +133 extra physical damage, vs +126 at 25/25.
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>>123500054
i already have 33 ARC did i fucked up then?
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>>123500338
Orphan of Kos is the only genuinely hard fight worth bitching about, everything else should be fairly straightforward if you're a somewhat decent player
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>>123500342
pop some madman's wisdom/insight
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>>123500338
>NG++
have fun with orphan and laurence
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>>123500447
Use other arcane weapons like the wheel and the rape tentacles.
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>>123500485
Orphan is actually fun, Laurence is an unimaginably boring and shitty HP sponge that may decide to OHKO you and make you redo the whole, awful thing.
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>>123500342
Make a depth 1 chalice dungeon and run through it. After you killed the last boss you should have around 10.
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>>123500219
ill ring again
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>25vit
>3rd phase Maria
no room for errors
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>>123500380
71, wew he just shat on me, gonna ring one more time before I give up and just and get some sleep, cheers anon who came
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>>123500432
yes but you will be at least 10 levels higher, if you use those extra levels into str it will make up for it e.g. 35-25-25
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/bbg/ really helped me out, especially before the DLC, and I saw earlier someone asking for japanese made charas.

Just search ブラッドボーン キャラレシピ on youtube or niconico and you'll get some interesting sliders. Thing is, they call them "recipe"
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>>123500196
It's not. Only weapons with a single damage type can be changed into pure elemental, so a weapon with two different damage types (like the chikage) will get the flat bolt increase without losing their physical damage.

Stick that gem in a tonitrus, by the way.
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>>123500279
Anyone tried if Loch Shield helps with the cancer rain?
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>>123500668
You're right, you can get 37/25 at the same level instead and get better damage.
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>>123500548
a strength/arc build for the moonlight sword/arc wheel/kos parasite sounds pretty good.
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>>123499883
Simon's Bowblade's charged R2 is like the Hunter's Axe's two-handed charged R2, a spin with hyper armor. Its transforming attack into bow mode shoots an arrow then dodges backwards with one button press. It's like the Scimitar in Dark Souls, and it catches people off guard. Its transforming attack into blade mode is like one of Blade of Mercy's transforming attacks, a lunge, spinning the blades with a lot of range. Its R1s are fast and don't use up much stamina. The damage on a charged R2 in bow mode does the same amount of damage as my Chikage's R1 in two-handed mode and is like having unlimited Bone Marrow Ash. Its R1 in bow mode is quick and does comparable damage to Evelyn shots. It's a great weapon.
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>>123500705
>Chara

I cant see that name anymore without seeing the nightmares.

Since when were you the one in control?
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>>123500756
dont forget amy arm and pizza wheel

Speaking of Amy Arm, I don't see it discussed much and never see other players using it. Is anyone using it? How is it?
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>>123498550

The fishermen was gifted the eldritch truth from the living orphan, as implied in the description of brain fluid and the reference to the brother and sister finding the eldritch truth.

Byrgenwerth who at that time were researching the Pthumerians then heard of it, and descended on the town, butchering its inhabitants, drilling holes in their heads to look for eyes, as described in the accursed brew description.

The people in the village prayed for a curse on all hunters, or the "children" of the fiends, and the orphan, being sympathetic obliged, creating the hunter's nightmare were all hunters will eventuall end up to atone for their sins.

This is why the DLC is a reversed timeline of the worst acts of the healing church, starting in nightmare Yarhnam with its river of blood and corpses to represent the people killed by the church in Yarhnam during the cleansing of old Yarhnam, the research hall and the experients the church did to find a way to create the emissaries, and then the massacre of the fishing hamlet, the first atrocity the scholars carried out in the search for eldritch knowledge.

The massacre of the fishing village was probably what caused Willlem and Laurence to part ways, as Willem wanted the child to return to the sea, as heard in his narration at the end. The lines from the first NPC you encounter in the fishing hamlet cursing Byrgenwerth and not the church implies that the healing church at that time had not yet been formed.

We find Laurence's human skull in the cathedral, as it is the point that he abandoned his humanity in committing his crimes against the village and allowing for human experimentation. We never hear of the secrets in the base game, with witnesses either died or sucked into the nightmare, with Maria committing suicide, Brador locking himself up, and Gehrman out of grief crossing into the dream realm hoping to be spend the rest of his life with the closest thing he had to Maria.
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>>123500548
damn i did this character especially for the moonlight
fucking fromsoft
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>>123500631
Thanks though, I'll just get some rest and try it 2morrow again, out of vials anyway
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>>123500925

Given Maria's relationship to Gehrman as his apprentice, and Gerhman knowing Laurence, Gehrman could have actually taken part in the massacre himself.

In the trailer we actually see a shot of Gehrman walking in the fishing hamlet, at 56 seconds in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I
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SANGUINE SANCTA
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>>123500959
Yeah i also thought it was pretty weird that they suddenly decided it wasn't a weapon for spellcasters anymore.
But then again i always found it weird how they gave a greatsword to mage builds.
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>host somehow dies when Kos is attacking me
fucking how
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>be in chalice dungeon
>fighting jumping spider in between a door way.
>I'm on one side he is on the other
>he jumps into the air
>teleports onto the OTHER SIDE and on top of me.

Literally how? How did this fucking happen?
>>
I asked this before, but no one answered
Does the aoe thing from the tentacles scale all the way to 70 like a call beyond or does it cap at 50 arcane?
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>>123500925
I find it interesting how the great ones in BB are all somewhat sympathetic towards humans, yet their sheer cosmic power is too much to handle.

Ebrietas gave blood to the healing church
Kos granted Rom ascension
The Orphan cursed those who wronged the fishermen
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>>123499029

But she actually hated blood magic. For all we know her personality could have actually been closer to the dolls, instead of being as yandere as she was in the DLC.
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>>123500854
I used +8 AA to kill Living Failures because my other weapon broke midfight. Took fucking ages, I was only doing ~130 damage per swing. Might try different gems sometime and see if it has real potential.
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How do I into webm for 4chan? I have a Mac.
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>>123501405
The doll is just an animated doll that happens to look like her and has barely any human emotion.
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>>123500662
Beat her with 23 vit first try, she's telegraphed as fuck
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this took a bit
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>>123501352

The great ones created the undead giants as protectors of the Pthumerians. This is why the whale giants look so similar, with the candles stuck on their back.
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I'm trying as hard as I can for Maria Sliders but they all look bad. FUCK MAN.
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So what's the better orientation for bowblade ? Dominant skill or bloodtinge ? And what is it for rakuyo ?
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>>123501474
Well... There is your problem I guess.
Why don't you have duelboot/bootcamp?
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>>123501194
well fuck i'm going to use it with my 50 arc anyway i'm not willing to level up another character just for this
gonna wreck everything with moonlight projectiles and tentacles
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>want to make a bloodletter/Brador build
>have to grind all the way to the end of the dlc using a bunch of shitty weapons I dont like just to get it

how do I make bloodtinge build not a boring gunspam fagfest up to that point
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>>123501540
10/10
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>>123501638
>gunspam
>he thinks guns in bloodtinge builds do huge damage
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>>123485867
>mfw I do 700AR on untricked Saif

Nothing personnel, but my weaponfu, BleedingMoon, will personally send you to hell.....................................
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>>123501437
>>123500854
it's a cool idea for a weapon, but it's tonitrus tier in terms of usefulness
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Do I need a PS+ or whatever the fuck it is premium paywalled account to summon/invade in BB?

I'm literally on the credit card screen to buy the game and this is the last thing I need to verify before I drop fiddy.
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>>123501540
I love it anon.
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>>123501540
>no "Marie is mai waifu" "I want to FUCK Marie"
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>>123500338
Laurence is the only genuinely garbage boss.
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>>123501540
Ayy lmao
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>>123501753
chikage is gay and I have to get 3/4ths of the way through the game to get it anyways
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>>123501638
Use the chikage or just run with a str weapon with 19% gems
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>>123501761
Yes you do.
It's a decent investment desu even if you only play 1 of the free games per month
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>>123501540
>ayy lmao
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>>123501872
>3/4 through the game
>forbidden woods
Lmao
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Anyone knows if skill is the first stat for bow and rakuyo ?
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>tfw only playing beast and kin modes since finishing my builds

holy fuck are these two fun
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>>123501753
>>he thinks guns in bloodtinge builds do huge damage
they dont?
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>>123501540
beautiful
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>>123502036
Skill is for sword form of the bow, and the only stat (other than arc) that rayuko scales with
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So does the loch shield block blood damage?
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>>123501638
There are a few ways:
CANNON
Reiterpallasch + Evelyn(or repeating pistol) dual-wielding gunkata
Grorious weeabo shamurai forded wan mirrion twoops
Pure BLT Gatling Gun

Note that literally every bloodtinge weapon will force you to spec into a stat that doesn't do anything for the bloodletter and ultimate serves as wasted points. The other alternative is just to stick with the saw cleaver and base offensive stats and just beat the DLC with that. You can accord to pour upgrade materials from the main game into it because the DLC will give you everything you need to max the bloodletter on its own.
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>>123502141
It's not Blt ?
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>>123502186
Blood is physical, it's blocked by the wooden shield
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>>123501540
Second to last panel should be Laurence, not Orphan. Otherwise; gold.
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>>123502232
arrows from the bow scale with bt, rayuko not at all
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Anyone want to help with ng+ ludwig?
pass: bbgee
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>>123501992
>even if you only play 1 of the free games per month
I barely play one game a year. I got this stupid console dumped on me by a moving relative and I wanted to buy a game or something to justify the space it takes up.

How much is this subscription shit? Seems pretty fucking stupid to put a basic game feature behind some xboxlive-style paywall. That shit's exactly the reason I don't own an xbox.
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I think I've almost made The Boss by accident.
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>>123502374
Oh yeah sorry I hadn't read it correctly, I'm a bit tired you will understand I'm sure
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>/bbg/ used to say my 35/35/30/40 build worthless

Looks like guidance of the moon had paid off for me
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BL22 at BSB story fog door, help please.

Password is bbg1500
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>>123502382

I could help, I'll be at the church lantern in a moment.
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For Laurence's second form, do I just bait his vomit attack and hit him, then back away until he does it again? He's fucking annoying.
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>>123502586
Alrighty thank! Waiting by the fog gate
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>>123502565
that's a cute skeleton
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>tfw you will never have a copy of Kosm-OS on your CD-Rom
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>>123502754
Send help.
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>>123502565
>>123502794
On my way I guess
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>>123501540
>Doll is Oedon is a completely viable theory on /bbg/
>Oedon is MP theory is considered fanfiction tier because Oedon has no form and MP has no name, even though MP only exists in a dream layer of reality and MP having no name is extremely typical Miyazaki storytelling storytelling

I'm going to make a copy pasta out of all the stupid shit /bbg/ says and thinks.
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>>123501624
No, I don't have bootcamp. Wat do?
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>>123502865
>>Doll is Oedon is a completely viable theory on /bbg/
Are you retarded?
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>>123502849
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Does anyone have the arcane 101 image please ? DLC and ayyylmao form made me want to go arcane at last
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>>123502390
deals are currently going on right now. You can get a year for 40 dollars or lower if you look around because of blackf riday. Walmart has 3 months for 10 bucks currently so you can easily get a year for 40 with that price.
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How do i beat Amygdala in the defiled chalice dungeon?
I'm on NG+ and i had no problem against the boss in nightmare frontier, but it seems i can't deal enough damage to her this time
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>you will never hold hands with kos

why live?
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>>123503045
Build? BL? Arcane has some nice tricks up it's sleeves, but it really depends on what you're going with
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>>123502794
still need another one?
i also want some jolly cooperation
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So is this grave for Kos? The Orphan? Someone else? Seems real strange to have a lone grave overlooking Kos' corpse
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>>123503150
Vit 50
End 30
Strenght 51
Skill 27
BT 12
A 9
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Guys, who is the sexy voice that says
>Ahhh, you found yourself a hunter.
At the intro?
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>>123501474

Just use chrome
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>>123503254
I'm ringing at the door. All welcome.
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>>123502586
well shit, ringing again
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>>123503302
Probably the orphan, since the DLC seems to be going backwards in time the further into the levels you go.
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>>123503367
You answered your own question.
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>>123503367
ur mom pal
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Welp, looks like we both got shat on by moonbath
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>>123503367
Sweet lady Iosefka
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So micolash is still praying to kos despite the fact that she died in childbirth.
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So if the hunter's nightmare was created as punishment for the crimes of the Byrgenwerth and the first hunters, what did Loran do to warrant being made into a nightmare realm by Mergo?

Loran was infested by beasts, and not only that but beasts that looked just like the ones in Yarhnam. Did something similar happen their as well with their own healing church carrying out atrocities against its people?

>There are trace remains of medical procedures in parts of ailing Loran. Whether these were attempts to control the scourge of the outbreak, is unknown

They probably weren't attempts at halting the plague, but the cause.

Loran probably had a church who carried out expreiments on people just like the healing church did to understand the elritch truths as well.

There could very well have numerous civilisations that rose and fell before Yarhnam, Pthumeru and Loran. Humanity could very well be stuck in a permanent cycle of rise, enlightenment, failure, and beast hood.

Humans are the real monsters. Beasts who would butcher eac hother for power and knowledge. The numerous times the great ones had tried to intereact with the humans and tried to ascend them had always resulted in bloodshed and plagues.

Humanity is the real living failure

You are now feeling existential despair, just like what HP Lovecraft wrote about. Bravo From. Bravo Miyazaki
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uh
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>>123503692
>Humanity could very well be stuck in a permanent cycle
Yes, this is a Miyazaki game. It's literally the only fucking thing the guy writes about.
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>>123503707
nothing triggers me more than when laggy pieces of shit, who know they are laggy pieces of shit, bow after lagmashing someone to death
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>>123503692
Why is this game so fucking good?

Just everything about it everytime I think about it is just god tier. I love the combat the enemies the atmosphere the weapons the bosses the story the world just fucking everything.
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Guys I wanna try arcane now, does anyone have the guide to proceed with saw spear with elemental gems please ?
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>>123503707
git gud
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>>123503302

Usually the idea of graves like this are from the dead giving a last request to look over something they loved, but how long must the person have been dead and how long the body of Kos on the beach?
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>>123503692
Also, to make the cursed dungeons you need a bastard of loran. The description tells you curses are made by provoking the ire of a great one.
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>>123503692
>what did Loran do to warrant being made into a nightmare realm by Mergo?
It wasn't Mergo who affected Loran. It was Oedon or something else.

Here's a thought: They were mad about bastard children born out of wedlock
- Ring of Betrothal
>"The inhuman beings known as the Great Ones imbued this Ring of Betrothal with some special meaning. In the age of the Great Ones, wedlock was a blood contract, only permitted to those slated to bear a special child.
- Bastard of Loran
>"Remains of Loran infant infected by the scourge. A harbinger of curses and symbol of defilement."
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>>123503892
>waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

You're lagging just as much to them.
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>>123503683

Probably doesn't believe she's dead.
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>>123504057
except every lagger just mashes r1 because they know they are the cause of the lag
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>>123502939
Git bootcamp. Install an acquired version of Win7 with it and use both MacOS and Windows 7 on your Mac computer
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Is it weird that I have a Bloodtinge build, but don't want to use the Bloodletter? I like swords more, so I went withe Chikage and Bowblade.
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>>123504071
Actually, i don't think you can really kill those things. her physical body is dead but she can still be summoned in a dream once again.
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>>123500925
>implies that the healing church at that time had not yet been formed.
This is the one thing I'm not really sure about, since the college clearly operated on its own after the split occurred. That being said, Laurence leaving definitely has to happen at some point before the research hall portion.

Maybe Ludwig/Laurence's presence in the nightmare in the first place is a better confirmation of this. But then again we don't really know what the criteria for being stuck in there are in the first place beyond being someone with ties to the college.

Also I wonder if the underwater city has any significance in terms of when the hamlet section takes place. It's probably just meant to look nice.
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>>123503692

Unlike Dark Souls, it's stated that Yarnham and the surrounding areas are a really young civilization.
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Shiet, sorry anon, didn't realize that attack covered the entire room in front of him
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>>123504265
just run around him and it wont hit you. got him down to 1% and died ;-;
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>>123504147
>mashes r1

That's how you play this game.
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>>123504324
>>123504265
what are you guys doing? i want to help someone
i'm bored
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>>123504335
if you're a shitter and/or lagger maybe
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>>123503985
It was probably Amygdala.
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>>123504376
ng+ ludwig
pass: bbgee
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>>123503920


also for bowblade is it worth investing if Im just pure BLT? Plan to use bloodletter and chikage but need to know if I should put a point into skill or not
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>>123504448
omw
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I managed to platinum the game but I cannot handle NG+++ Orphan or Laurence at all. Anyone else just hitting a wall on the both of them?
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So do who thinks the dlc is going to kick bloodborne back into life? Like for a while. I personally would love to see it go on for a lot longer now considering all the amazing stuff in the dlc.
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>>123504236
It was build on top of the chalice dungeons and the city was named after their queen. It's obviously quite old, despite the fact that the church only came into power recently. Also, Cainhurst's nobles are implied to be descendants of the Pthumerians, this means they were there for a while too.
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>>123504525
>>123504525
>>123504525

It's about that time now. Get on with it. Move along.
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>yfw my guiding moonlight
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>>123503837
>>123503692

Considering how Queen Yarhnam is present in mergo's nightmare which we now know is a nightmare realm of Loran, and the existence bastard of Loran, along with her feotus being fossilised inside her womb, and how the game gives us the wedding ring which emphasises the nature of vows and covenants, could it be that Yarhnam promised to bear the child of Oedon, only to cheat on him with a mortal, probably a person from Loran?

Oedon finding out about Yarhnam's infedelity could have killed the developing child in her stomach whilst allowing her to birth his formless child, and as punishment, drew the land of Loran into the nightmare realm whilst causing the beast plague there.

Thats why Annalise refuses our offer of marriage. She treats the tale of Yarhnam as a cautionary tale, and rather than settling down with you would rather continue to fuck as many other men as she can in the hopes of one day bearing a child, whilst gathering the sperm of others. And like the good friend/kek you are, you go back to hunting other men and taking their sperm for your queen.
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>>123504510
by fog gate
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>>123504591
YOU WERE AT MY SIDE

ALL ALONG
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>>123503985
Isn't Mergo Oedon's orphan, like Orphan of Kos was Kos'? Oedon is known for having no form as is Mergo's Wet Nurse. We don't see Mergo at any point either, we just hear his cries.
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>>123504736
He's the child of Oedon. Oedon isn't dead, so he can't be an orphan.
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>>123504483
Thank you very much kind anon
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Is the tentacle cauliflower man actually viable or it shit?
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>>123504579

It's still an incredibly young world compared to Lordran.
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>Chikage R2 has a follow up
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>>123504616
I don't think it was the case with Yharnam. Also, the stone isn't really the baby, it's Yharnam herself. She's an undead queen just like annalise, Yharnam stone is what's left of her, just like when you pick up queenly flesh, especially considering how similar both item descriptions really are.
Mergo was stillborn and dead in the waking world, but the school of mensis managed to summon him in the nightmare.
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New thread

>>123505039


New thread


>>123505039


New thread


>>123505039
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I've master orphan of kos UNTIL the point he gets to 30% and starts jumping like a madman. Its been a more than 6 hours now and I just don't know what to do at that point
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How to get snek?
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>>123505093
There's already one up. >>123504590
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Does ayy lmao mode's melee scale with ARC?
Might make a pure plip plop character for the hell of it.
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>>123504981
When you fight Yharnam in the labirynth she's still bearing the stone inside of her, which is the unborn body of Mergo. At the same time while in a nightmare, she's already "given birth" because in this realm Mergo is formless and the stone, his form has no use there.
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>>123487784
>manipulate a giant clock
>plot twist: lady maria is ahmed mohamed
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>>123505743
>The Queen lies dead, but her horrific consciousness is only asleep, and it stirs in unsettling motions."
>Her horrific consciousness
>Her
It's not mergo, it's yharnam herself
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>>123499672
>the music at the start lamenting the loss/sacrifice of Kos for her child
>the "like pottery" theme of no great one having a child with a great one child lacking a parent
>the revelation in seeing a great one birth what is more or less human

Love all of it and I still can't beat the guy.
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>>123485776
I think the recommended level is 65 for the dlc.
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