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Ace Combat General #165 - /aceg/

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<< Update 12 Trailer >>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YWgl6-6lrI

<< Frequently Asked Questions >>
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<< Recent Events >>
6x supplied fuel underway with new challenges
Continuing to che through Excalibur Onslaght, people still not killing all of the aerial units
Co-op tournament has ended, rewards now available
Nagase Shinden will continue to be a drop until the 30th
Su-47 -Albireo- added to drop pool until the 30th so now you will definitely never get the Shinden
Gold box? It's probably more Idol emblems or tickets
Something something about the VGL team

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[ http://ace-infinity.bngames.net/ ]
<< Project ACES twitter (JP) >>
[ https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES ]
[ https://twitter.com/hashtag/ACEINF?src=hash ]


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<</aceg/’s guide to Ace Combat Infinity>>
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Previous Thread
>>123072529

Because it always bears repeating
>AC7 Never
>HD Collection Never
>PS4/PC/XBOX Port NEVER
>Don't believe the statbars
>You chucklefucks let it die again
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First for Aces, Engage
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>>123443005
In all honestly, I actually want a physical copy of the nagase shinden
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Buying more loadout slots was worth more than the campaign pass ever was. Fuel included
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So what's going to be your main cost-restricted plane?

I'm going with Bf 109 -FA- lvl 11. Currently unlocking slots so I can max out the parts I want.
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>>123443648
After like a month and a half, I finally got to the point where I have planes over 999 cost. I shouldn't have any problem meeting the restrictions though given the hordes of shitplanes that I decided to level up before I learned how this game works.

I'm more interested in the restriction for challenge room purposes though. It lowers the chance of an asshole joining and ruining it for everyone else who is actually trying to finish challenges. I'm also hoping that it will even the playing field with high MRs when I can't find people in my own MR range (which happens every single day no matter the hour that I play).
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they're extending the nagase drop
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>>123443528
didn't they have a model kit for it?
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>>123443648
>Tfw my best plane barely exceeds 1200 cst

How the fuck did I even end up at 1800 MR?
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which is the better A2A BRRRRRT boat? mig21 with gunpods or prop planes?
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>>123444736
Thanks for reminding me that the MiG-21 exists. Totally forgot that it's in the game.
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>>123444156
...and got it. and 2x Excalibur 1 6x sorted the NSU challenge. All done.
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Wow, hit a Excalibur II, 6x with contracts was almost a million. Nice.
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>>123443005
>6x supplied fuel
Nice, I guess, but I have a question, how's the resuppying looks, do we have 2 for one, 4-hour cycle, or do we have to wait full 24 hous for 6 fuel to respawn?
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>>123446906
The timer never changes. 4 hours per supplied, 24 for full 6.
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>>123444541
Up to 1800MR or so it's almost entirely a measure of your skill. Past that, you will need a decent plane.
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>>123443005
So what's the story behind the Nagashinden anyway? It's from some light novel about developing the ASF-X right? Did anyone even bother to read that?
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is the standard shinden worth getting at all? I mean I like the plane and I don't really go into the meta but I've only got 4 slots in and they're filled with
-makoto typhoon for A2A
-F-2Ami for A-2G
-Danketsu bomber, which I use occasionally to prepare for the next NTDM
-F-15 Chihaya
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>>123450513
Dead end tree, why bother? I didn't. Got the Nugget and Nagase anyway.
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from the nagase shinden description
>"...The gaze of the young pilot who overcame many trials and tribulations and grew strong alongside this aircraft, remains fixated on the distant horizon. Will the day even come when these heavy wings of steel can finally be shed?"

is project aces trying to tell us something?
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GPB or LAGM?
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>>123450940
well I didn't get the nugget and from the looks of it the nagase won't drop for me
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>>123450513
>is the standard shinden worth getting at all?

It's very similar to the F-35 in that it's a late-tier multirole with lots of slots, but it's way too slow. Parts and levels can help it but it will never be able to beat an eagle. However, unlike the F-35 it has two really great SPW (LASM and 6AAM) and with higher levels and parts it certainly won't be left in the dust.

Also I'm not about to encourage anyone to spend money on this twisted game but if you were ever to buy anything, I'd recommend getting some more slots. The first 4 might actually be free but it's been like 18 months and I might be remembering wrong.

>>123452036
Illuminati confirmed.
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>>123452446
LAGM will be superior in most cases because it's a missile you can fire from long range and not a bomb you have to be in a certain position to drop.

That said if you need to prioritize damage over ease of use GDP is better. The only times I'm aware of where that's really necessary is NTDM and ESS.
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>>123453909
Alright. LASM it is then
Gotta take that Nighthawk to 20
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>>123454140
>LASM
>Nighthawk
You mean LAGM, right?

Honestly, I don't get why they're even different weapons. They were the same thing in AH.
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>>123456636
Because they wanted two similar weapons with different damage bonuses to certain targets.
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Something something rise something
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>>123456636
but LAGM doesn't have AOE like LASM does it? I don't know, I never use LAGM

speaking of LASM >>123457530 here is a good target for it
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Is Nagase still dropping? Neat.

>>123443005
>Something something about the VGL team

Daily reminder of our friendly against /@/ and group stage draws this Saturday, get hype!

>>123443521
This pic is damn awesome.

>>123443648
Either good ol' lv. 5 Strike Eagle for groundpounding or Foxhound for stupid sexy Schwarze skin. I need more hangar slots.
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>x6 fuel
>no announcement for the next tournament
WAKE UP SHEEPLE ITS AN ELABORATE RUSE
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>>123457921
Are you kidding? Not only does it have AOE, it has parts to increase its AOE.

In fact, during the game's early days, LAGM had such a wide AOE that it was basically a tactical nuke. I'm sure somebody has those old images of the blast radius saved.
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>>123449203
I've got the torrent (took forever to finish). It's some kind of LN from Dengeki Hobby
It's all in runes so no idea about what happens (there's an "enemy" page in the end with the Strigon leader, might be related?)
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>>123458658
Also the original source for the infamous Nagase in bikini eyecandy
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>>123458775
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>>123458563
>>123457921
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>>123459017
well then, guess it's time for me to gat a plane with LAGM, and the only idolplane I have with that is the yukihawk
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>>123459120
OR I could go back to developing the Wild Weasel
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>>123457921
LASM and LAGM AoE is currently almost identical. LASM slightly bigger by about 10m ingame or so but it doeon't really matter enough to make a difference.
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>>123459120
That pic is no longer accurate by the way. They patched it several months ago. Now the blast radius at level 5 with the M radius part is about the same as level 1 with M on that pic.
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>>123459017
This isn't accurate anymore. I'm pretty sure.

LAGM arnge at 5 is like half this and M part adds almost nothing to warrant using it.
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>>123459662
>>123459268

>>123458563
>old image
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>>123459847
Yes and they were adding context to the image so nobody is led astray. Problem?
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The Aegir Fleet was a pile of shit so much for being invincible.
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Already got 85% of the NSU challenge done but I'm totally willing to hunt Excalibur raids with /aceg/. Anyone up for a room this afternoon?
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>>123439767
To be fair, the game can get extremely repetitive if you do more than the 6 sorties every day.
It's all about patience, especially for those that don't want to pay up, vs instant gratification (and possibly getting burned out).
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more gfaqs drama. only one page worth, it's not funny unless you like laughing at an autist in their natural habitat
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/723578-ace-combat-infinity/72887831
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>>123463540
I've never seen so much hate for ACS. Did they hurt the autist in some way?
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>>123463625
afaik, they just kicked the autist and now she's having a 5yo temper tantrum
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>>123463540
Oh boy the salt is raining
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>>123463540
Eh, why should we care?

We've got more important things to discuss.
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>>123469770
Aw man, don't make me choose. Those two are like cousins or something.
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>>123469770
Froggy is cute, but A-10 a best.
Do we already know how will the Raven Frogfoot abtainable?
Not that I will get it anyway with the shit luck I have,
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>>123472336
Top 200 in 1500 cst restricted tournament.
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>>123463540
>I disagree

>>Geeze, you're disagreeing with me? What do you have against me, huh?

>I Disagree because -reasons-

>>Lel scrub go home, just because you're bad at the game doesn't mean you can refute my points. Because you're 'bad' your arguments are meaningless lalalalalalalala I can't hear you.
Literally middle school tier rhetoric.
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>>123460993
Yes.
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Happy thanksgiving buddies
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>>123473345
Dear Bamco, thanks for the 30x Tickets!
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>>123473345
Thank you Shin.
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>>123473050
Yo, gonna host today?
Guess the forwould be a good time.
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>>123474583
*forced sortie
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I just had two aidorus drop for me B^)
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JUST GOT HIGH AIDORU
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>Gold drop
>heh yeah right, probably more tickets
>HANGAR SCENE
>HYPE
>it's the Cowkut
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOUUUUUUUUUU
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>finally unlock good planes and get them to high enough level to start using it matches
>still completely irredeemably suck balls at the game
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>Tfw UAVs in Excalibur can fire missiles backwards
>Tfw they have decent homing
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In a couple of hours I'll host a room for some raid-hunting.
I have only 6 supplied and 5 stocked, but it should be enough to six-drop one.
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>>123480347
Man you picked the worst possible time. The northwestern hemisphere will be eating tonkey and having forced conversations with annoying family members at that time. I saved up some fuel in anticipation of raid hunting today but looks like I can't make it.
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>>123480347
>>123480606

I doubt I'll do any flying today until 2 or 3 after challenges reset or later
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>>123481054
Challenges don't reset for another 6.5 hours.
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>>123480606
>>123481054
Oh fuck, I had completely forgotten about that thanksgiving thing.
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>>123481132
Your point being?
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so I got the su-47 drop last night, what should I do with it ?
Upgrade it and use it to actually do more than 20k score ? or just save my shit for something better from the RU attackers tree.

Newish player so I still have stacks of research reports and shit.
I'm Up to the su-27 as far as regular research goes not sure if I should spend crap to level up stuff for the su-47 or just save it for something else.
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>>123484047
Save it. Don't level something because you think it will net you better scores, level something because you like it.
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>>123484047
It's a meh plane with an uninteresting paintjob but as a new player, yeah the monthly drops are worth using for a bit until you reach your goal. Though I haven't tested UGBs since their recent buff so I don't know if they're still a joke on multiroles.
The Su-27 is more expensive than other planes of that tier for some reason. Have you already picked a plane(s) you want to use?
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>>123484934
>UGBs since their recent buff
I've been taking a break for a bit. What changed?
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>>123485918
Radius is much larger and can be lobbed decently (only) at high speed.

A-6 can drop them 4 at a time.
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>>123486348
>Radius is much larger
No it's not.
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>>123486348
Drop speed is still terribly slow, and the intruder is even slower.
I'm having fun with it, but it's far from being competitive even with LASMs
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>>123486348
WHAT.
IRON DUCKY YOU'RE THE ONE
YOU MAKE CARPET BOMBING SO MUCH FUN
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I will open the room in 30 minutes because of yurop timezone, sorry for those who won't be able to join
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<<Reawaken>>
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>>123488875
Room still open? I might be able to sneak in 1 or 2 matches.
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>>123491384
I'm in a random room as of now, but we are two and nobody is joning
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>>123491494
Might be hard for you guys to S with me shitting up the place.
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>>123491770
Nah, don't worry about that, it's all experience.
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>>123492096
Thanks for the games man, gotta go converse with family members now.
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>>123493308
<<Survive.>>
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>mfw spent almost 10 million credits today and still have more to spend

It feels pretty liberating.
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People still playing?
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>used both contracts
>dropped 18 stocked in 3 sorties
>all excalibur 2 sorties
>rolling in money
>Gold boxes gave me nothing but cash, fuel and tickets
>still no idol emblem or nagase shinden
I don't know what to feel
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>>123496367
>Still no Nagase
>No money
>7th sortie in the same room and still no raid
>All I have left are 5 stocked and 20k credits
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>>123496954
Hey thanks for the games, it was fun playing with you. Sorry I kinda fucked up the A2A on the first game.
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>>123497426
It was fun, sorry if had to run like that but I suddenly remembered I had to fix a couple of things and here it's getting late.
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>>123497607
It's alright
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>>123496367
You mean you haven't gotten a single idol emblem yet? I made a second account about a week ago for when I feel like playing more than 3 times per day and between both accounts, I have a full set and a half of the idol emblems. I wish I could give them to you.
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>>123496954
>still no raid

The past week spoiled us. I think Excalibur was in heavy rotation so you were likely to get it around every 3rd or 4th sortie, but now it must be back to normal, which means that you're lucky if you get it once a week.
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Does GPB radius get any good (relatively speaking) at level 5?
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>>123502780
It'll easily take out ship's entire subweapons and units placed right next to each other on some maps, but I still wouldn't rely on it for AoE even at Lv.5.
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>>123479152
Well its not hard to home in when you're busy avoiding lasers
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>12 sorties today
>NSU done
>a single golden crate in the last sortie
>"well shit, I'll be damned..."
>another idol

The good thing is that I finally got all of the damn girls so I only have the planes in the drop pool. Which means I'm only getting tickets now.
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Do you think a toaster would be able to run Ass Horizon?
By toaster I mean an AMD 7300 series

>inb4 don't play that, faggot
No, fuck you. I want to play the bomber missions again, those were fun as fuck. Unless you know of a better dogfighting game that also has bomber missions again I don't want to hear your shit.
Besides, I'm pirating it. Even on sale I'm not dumb enough to buy it.
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>>123505835
Yup. I've had all of the idols for several days now and my only drops have been tickets and occasionally fuel.
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The piston challenge is going to take forever... host closed room after waiting 15 minutes and still only 2 in the room, don't really want to frustrate others, but guess sub 1500 challenge rooms should be ok...
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>>123508852
No one is gonna bitch at you for using a piston in a challenge room and if they do, they're a cunt.
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>>123509752
Well put.
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>>123509752
I decided to level up a piston plane after that one anon flew one to great effect during NTDM I can break 30k now against jets but I'm still nowhere near MVPing against them
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>Finally get Excalibur II after several dozens of sorties of absolutely nothing
>3x fuel that bitch
>Briefly forget that 6x forced sorties is on
>Tfw I realized my mistake right as the lobby went to plane select

As if shitty drops wasn't already bad enough. Fuck.
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>>123513693
I have a Bf 109 level 11 with cst 1480 or so, and I can keep up with Jets. You just gotta believe.
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>Reaper has more 6AAMs 15 than any other plane at 20 except RZ and Su35-S1
Truly a plane for faggots
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>>123519918
I swear I can't use any plane in this game without some getting mad about it. I could use a shitplane like the Weasel and someone would get mad about AGMs, I could use the Super Tomcat and someone will get mad about 6AAMs, I could use the Mudhen and someone would get mad about SFFS, there's just no winning with you guys.
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>>123520891
don't be a goy, goy.
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>>123520891
Just fly whatever you want. The true faggots in this twisted game are the clubbers and charlie fraggers.
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So it appears at level 15 the Flying Aces P-38 get an increase in speed. From to to slightly less F.
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>>123521260
>From to to
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>>123521328
from F to less F. I uh blanked out for a second.
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I guess everyone's away right now. There's barely any rooms available and I can't get sorties going.
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<<Re-ruse>>
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>>123524616
I saw a decent number of rooms. It's National Genocide Day so a lot of people are off from work/school and playing.
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>>123525627
>All these rooms with just the host in it

How nice would it be if they just played together, but I guess they'd just kick each other out.
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>>123528258
Funny you mention that, I've been getting kicked randomly from rooms for no reason. I've gotten kicked a few times when the room reached a research/experience/drop bonus and other times for absolutely no reason that I can think of.
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>>123529529
So same as usual then?
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>>123530360
Back in my day, when people said "everyone let's have fun here," they meant it.
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>>123530445
even in the JP beta that wasn't true. If moby dick appeared the host would kick all other SU-25 users to secure that top score.
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Woah, hard maps give double rank rewards again? I could have sworn that wasn't the case when 6x started.
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>>123532104
That is what it says on the loading screen. 2x ranking and victory rewards.
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>>123532104
Started today.
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>>123532489
>2x ranking
FUCK
I didn't realize that. I could have made a push for the X-29A
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>>123532489
>Loading screen, where it's mixed in with dozens of aircraft information and other notices

Wow, Bamco really loves picking the worst way possible to deliver information.
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>>123532581
It starter no more than 24 hours ago. The tourney was long over when x2 ranking started
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>>123533923
What's the point of 2x ranking when there isn't a tournament going on?
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>>123533991
I don't think doubled rewards for hard maps ever gave double ranking points; just clear bonuses.

Although in retrospect clear bonus would have been a better term to use than rank reward.
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>>123536105
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>>123536105
Bit blurry. This actually legit?
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>>123536105
>PS3

Sure
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>>123536105
Aren't those pictures on the right from AC6?
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>>123536105
Yeah gonna need some more proof to back this one up.
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>>123536105
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It just looks like some old scrapped poster for what became ACI. I mean the "PS3" is a dead giveaway that it's not an actual AC7. You'll cowards got rused.
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>Tfw challenge requires 180 kills in a piston fighter

Oh you have got to be shitting me. How many steps are in Lv.Cap Form challenge anyway?
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>>123537174
Our desperation at this point is pretty phenomenal. We'll get rused by any old fake piece of info that looks like it might finally get us off the wild ride that is Infinity.
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>>123537174
KILL YOURSELF.
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>>123536603
Those are all stock images. Even the flankers. Do a reverse google search.
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>>123536105
a quick google search shows that this is the first image you see when you look for エースコンバット7, followed by pictures from assault horizon
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guys, what if
>AC7 announced
>the planes available are based on top 10 most used planes in AC:I
>rest are DLC
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>>123538850
That would suck. I just want to pay once and be done with it.
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>>123538850
>the planes available are based on top 10 most used planes in AC:I


>F15S/MTD
>X-02
>FB-22
Huh. Although X-02 is my waifuplane ever since 04
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>>123539253
I don't see that many X-02s really.
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how the fuck do people call Assault Horizon Legacy a good game
you just push a button and magically dodge/wind up behind them and/or the bad guy pushes their own button and magically dodges, you win by out-bullshitting the bullshitter
not to mention that they made it look better than what the 3DS can handle without awful slowdowns that ruin whatever fun you managed to scrape up playing it
fuck this shitty game goddamn

on a related note does anyone here have the new 3ds and does it fix the slowdowns in a lot of games?
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>>123501063
>this will never happen
why even live
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>>123539740
I have the new 3DS, been playing AHL+ for about a week, did 5 or 6 missions, no slowdowns noted so far.

You can turn off the magic button in the options. I'm doing my first playthrough with the magic button and if I do a second one, I will turn it off. Wish I could stream this shit in case anyone wanted to watch since that seems popular lately here.
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>>123538925
we're way past that mow, frankly as a compromise I'd be ok with DOA5: Last Round's business model where you can do either
>pay for the full version and you get the full game (with extra costume added as DLCs later)
OR
>get the free version but you only get a limited number of fighters and game modes which you can the either buy the fighters/campaign individually or upgrade the game to the full version

so what I think they could do with the free/demo version for AC7 is limit the numbers of planes you can use as well as campaign missions, but you can still replay the missions and keep any gains/plane levels or credits, and of course people who bought the game gets the entire game (minus the skin DLCs)

it's not the "pay once and be done with it" model we all want but I think this is a decent compromise.
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>>123539902
does it turn off the ridiculous crap where when you're dogfighting an ace, finally get a good angle on them and they suddenly fuck off to the stratosphere or start spazzing around all over the place?
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>>123540025
Why do we have to settle for this DLC bullshit though? $60 is a lot of fucking money for a piece of entertainment. I think that as far as DLC goes, purely cosmetic is the least heinous but I'm tired of being nickled and dimed.

Also the model you mentioned could fragment the community. I don't wanna play online with cheap Jews using the free shitplanes and holding me back. I'd rather everyone just be on the same page.
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>>123540219
I was wondering the same myself, haven't tried it yet. Hopefully disabling "press Y to win" also disables it for enemies.
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is it weird that I kinda want to see a remake of X more than anything else
it was the first AC game I ever played and holds a special place in my heart in spite of the fact that it doesn't have much to show in the story department
having played pretty much everything else in the series I feel like it was sort of the culmination of a bunch of great ideas taken from the older games, nothing really innovative, just already implemented ideas that were used really well
kinda like Super Mario 3D World
the only reason it isn't my absolute favorite in the series is that the graphics haven't aged well IMO, unlike 4/5/0 where it still holds up alright on a 1080p screen
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>>123537289
Yeah, brutal, i was doing it a "challenge" room with some SOD whyvern hanging around, surely should have got the 60 kills after 3 sorties?

There are 9 steps, the last 2 are 200,000pts with standard missiles (ECM time!) and score 300,000pts.
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>>123540219
Same experiences as above till the end. Yeah N3DS version is much better. No, AI is still really shit. If you haven't encountered ZOE yet, it gets even worse then.
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>>123540219
>suddenly fuck off to the stratosphere
But anon we get this shit in infinty with regular enemies. It should be normal to you by now.
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Rena Flanker is next tourney, info in game announcement.
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>>123544120
>Rena Flanker is next tourney
ITS STILL NOT A COFFIN FLANKER THIS SHIT TRIGGERS ME SO MUCH

what's the other rewards they're hinting at?
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>>123544414
emblems from the looks of it, wouldn't mine the neucom one really

on a somewhat related note, have they had the grunder industries logo as a drop/reward?
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>>123544638
>emblems from the looks of it, wouldn't mine the neucom one really
Anon you missed the NEMO typhoon. Emblems have always been a part of the tourney. Also, grunder was a drop in that big all emblem drop clusterfuck a while back.
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>>123544686
didn't miss it, I just thought they put it there since it was announced a few days ago

>big all emblem drop clusterfuck
must've been when I took a 3 month long break from the game thinking I was finally free of this twisted game
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>>123544638
>have they had the grunder industries logo as a drop/reward?

There was a tournament called '8492nd squadron' that awarded Mirage Magicien. It came with that
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>Announcement for 1.5x credits for tier 1 and 2 raids is gone
>The bonus is still there
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>join challenge room
>pick challenge plane set
>all set to go
>2000+ cst MTD or Wyvern on the rival team

Every time.
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>>123547917
Don't join challenge rooms, join cost-restricted rooms
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Rena back and buffed to 800cst. New elextrosphere albums with music
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>>123548670
>800cst HCAA and 6AAM at not-goy tier prices
>still top 200
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>>123544638
Thank god now I get to collect fuel. I hope the title "Gifted Young Pilot" isnt too high up In the ranking. I want to use it on my -JL-.
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What new fighter planes have been made since the first Ace Combat and now?
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>>123547819
Holy FUCK I remember that show
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>>123549580
The F-22 has gone intro production since the first AC. The first few games actually used the YF-22, but dropped the "Y" from the name. I believe AC4 was the first to feature the production version of the F-22.

The T-50 is an obvious one, and the Su-35 in ACAH/ACI is a different/more recent Su-35 than the one featured in the earlier games.

The ATD-X (ATD-0) is currently under development.

China has produced a few fighters as well.
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>>123549808
Also the Joint Strike Fighter
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>>123549808
I'm curious how /aceg/ would feel if Chinese aircrafts were added? Would you use one?
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>>123550116
I don't see why they can't add Chinese planes. Airforce Delta Strike had a ton of them, including Chinese-licensed variants of MiGs and Sukhois.
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>>123550116
The J20? We'd need to know what it can do first.
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>>123550179
Probably because Japan-China relations. That aside, I see no reason not to considering we already have 5 different flanker.
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>>123537289
>host 4p Moscow props-only room
>profit
Or just get /aceg/ people, shouldn't be hard to gather 4 oddballs piloting props

>>123550116
Chengdu J-10 would be nice. Love the Mig 1.44/Typhoon bootleg
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>>123550386
>Literally a knock-off F22
Are the wings held on by sticky tape too?
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>>123443521
This picture is amazing, but at the same time, really sad.

Just listen to this while looking at that picture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCh0Xm-6EmQ

Look at that clear blue sky. All those aicraft flying in unison regardless of faction, imagine all the pilots enjoying the day just flying around in peace with each other.

It invokes such a bittersweet feeling. The fact that I'll never be there on the ground to watch this majestic airshow unfolding above in real life crushes me, it makes it worse that the series is ending.

But at least you guys are still here to cherish it. That makes me feel a little better.
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>>123550895
Cars are cooler anyway
>>
>host wide room
>Nobody joins for 20 minutes
>host no restrictions
>full within 5 all with players of similar MR

whygame.
>>
This evening, pretty much at the same time as yesterday I'll host a room to hunt for at least one raid.
I have exactly 6 stocked for it.
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>>123550932
get out
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>>123551686
Eat my dick topgun
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>>123551734
Go climb a wall of dicks topgear
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>>123551768
Fuck you man, too soon
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>>123551802
Wait what happened
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>>123551828
Top Gear is kill
Clarkson punched the producer and got sacked
Then the other presenters walked out with him
And they're now supposedly working on an independent car show on Netflix
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>>123552061
I've been meaning to watch Topgear. It looks interesting.

Sorry about it being kill
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>>123552061
>Top Gear is Kill
>Mythbusters is kill
>No sign of Braniac Resurrection

Damn.
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>excalibur II forced x6
>gold box
>3 fuel
>excalibur I forced x6
>gold box
>nonstandard upgrade form

FUCK
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>>123552061
Amazon, not Netflix.
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>>123551603
That would be nice. Starting when?
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>>123550730
Out of all the F-22 knockoffs, the J-20 is the least F-22-like.
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>>123553129
Around 22:00 in GMT+1
Around 16:00 for america, if I'm not mistaken.
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>>123552307
>have all planes I wanted at 10 (even one at 15)
>6 NSUs from challenges alone sitting on the item list, never to be used
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>>123551603
I might as well come play with you again.
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>>123541816
So I'm pretty much home free after this one. But damn, I should have checked the entire list somewhere.

>>123550591
I've been to pistons only Moscow room once during second pistons-only tourney. One guess to who decided to show up in mission update.

A truly unforgettable moment for all the wrong reasons.
>>
Rate my planefu:
F/A-18F -JR- Lv.7 4AAM Lv.4
CODE: 0129070008040c0h0m1j1m1s3v04
BODY: 29/31, ARMS: 28/32, MISC: 9/30
Enhanced Engine Compressor LL
High Spec Main Wing Actuator (Pitch) L
High Spec Main Wing Actuator (Roll) L
Advanced Warheads (MSL) L
Advanced Propulsion (MSL) L
Advanced Mobile Fin (MSL) L
Link Communications High Output Antenna
Datalink: High Homing+

no bully pls.
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>>123556042
I don't think it's possible for a plane to be more average than that.
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>>123556042
You won't really need propulsion at lv.7. Try replacing it with a Sp.W buff of your choice.

Or reload. Missile spamming is also pretty fun.
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>>123553639
Cool, I might even get to home by that time.
>>
>room you're trying to join wasn't available
>no room found
that's odd usually it's easy to find rooms around this time, and I'm pretty sure I haven't disconnected mid game.
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>>123559476
PSN giving the shits right now even though you can log on.
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>>123559858
well fuckbuckets, I just got back from work and was looking forward to burning fuel before midnight
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>>123559858
Yep. I can log in but can't get past Infinity start screen, either.
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>>123556042
>Roll L
Replace with Nozzle L, the Hornet is good enough at rolling without the part.
>Propulsion L
Like the other Anon said, you don't need Propulsion at that level. Consider Awareness Circuit or that combined part that also boosts homing.
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>>123561435
the combined part that improves power and reload is also an excellent choice.
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>Rena Flanker re-run tournament with new music emblems.

Okay cool.
Brackets are as follows.
>101-200
Neucom 2, UPEO 2, and General Resources 2, Ouroboros.
>201-500
UPEO 2, Ouroboros.
>501-1000
Take this Fiona Typhoon and the standard emblems from last year and go fuck yourself.

>Top 1000 doesn't even get the Ouroboros emblem from last year.

What the fuck is wrong with these brackets?! What the hell is this bullshit? Fucking shit scamco you couldn't make the new music emblems top 1000? I mean shit really?! you've done it for other tournaments. God damn shit cunts i'm so fucking pissed off right now!
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/@ceg/ vs. /@/ when?
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So where's the galm event? It's been skipped for sure by now. I want my damn Shogun to be buffed.
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>>123563882
Soon, but in the end no matter what team wins L@dys win
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>>123564002
Just wait. I'm sure it's less than 2 months away.
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>>123561325
I hope we get an extra day on that 6 fuel sortie and increased emblem drop rate
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>>123563882
765pro fighters vs memerella idols
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>>123551493
Why would you host a wide room? Fuck you for being an enabler for clubbers, you prick.
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>>123563882
Its tomorrow, right?
>>
>http://www.jp.playstation.com/psn/state2.html

whelp, it started maintenance just when I was about to play, guess no infinity for me for today
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>>123565838
No fuck you. The man can do what ever he wants. It's his room not everyone has the time to sit around and fucking wait for 15 minutes to a hour when they want to play a specific mission and need there room to fill. Not everything has to be about a damn war on clubbers. Go fuck yourself.
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>>123566358
>>123565838
Wide isnt bad, its no restrictions that bad. Also everything IS about clubbing you retard, every room is no restrictions for a reason.
>>
PSN seems to be back up, for those who are desperate to use their supplied.
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>>123566048
Yep, tomorrow at 3:30 PM Eastern
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>>123565838
Please join my room so I can club you then.
>>
>>123563882
>>123566048
Yep, 19h30 (GMT?), two games before the cup draw.
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>>123567558
Wait this is a soccer match?
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>>123566358
He specifically said that even with the room on wide restrictions, no one was joining. Your argument is invalid. Go fuck yourself.
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>>123568095
Virtual divegrass, yes, at 1930 GMT
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>>123568095
Yep
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>>123567412
It's gotten better, but there's still sporadic mass disconnections.
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>>123567412
still wonky on my end but that's probably because I'm using the JP account for AC:I
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>>123443521
Saw the four black Tomcats, looked for an F-5 or anything with an Osean paint job, found nothing.

;_;7
>>
>>123552232
>Mythbusters is kill
What? First I've heard of this.
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>>123572145
Check tested on youtube to see what they're up to now.
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>Excalibur I
>Mass disconnection until there's only two left
>Tfw the soundtrack is replaced by lasers and missile alerts

So this is how Gelb 2 felt. Fucking hell.
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>>123572513
<<heavy activity coming from stonehenge and excalibur, advising all planes to be grounded until the situation is resolved>>

I wish they'd put more money into PSN's network stability this time of year, but that's asking too much for sony.
>>
>2100 MR 8 player Moscow room
>aww what the hell i need some QAAM kills anyways
>realize its a <1500 cost room too late and have to sortie in my B1-RZ-
>oh hell i messed up
>by the end of the first half I'm MVP
>FUCKING CAMILA OUT OF NOWHERE
>connection lost 30 seconds later
Fun times in this twisted game.
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>Gold box
>Hangar scene
>Albireo

Last sortie before I'm out of town for the rest of the drop period. That would have been Nagase if Albireo didn't come and fuck it all up, but here I am.
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>>123576135
Hey man at least you got something. I'm just sitting here with the entire collection of idol emblems that I will never use at the occasional 30 tickets. Finally got that POOKA name though, now just gotta decide which emblem to buy.

I wish the retro emblems were drops and the idol emblems were in the store instead.
>>
>>123576135

>gold box
>bracing for fucking tic-
>cocoon

Welp, as much as I want to use it (considering I have Avalanche), I REALLY want to goy for Fiona's Typhoon.
>>
>>123576497
I already have stock Su-47 at Lv.9 that I use for hardmode. Albireo just doesn't offer anything worth starting over.

But you're right, one man's junk is another man's treasure. I just don't know how much more disappointment I can take.
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>>123577207
>Albireo just doesn't offer anything worth starting over.

You kidding me? You got that sick cow camo going on. That is totally worth it.
>>
>>123553639
I'm interested. Would be nice to get one of the old rooms going again. Everyone in this thread seems to have dropped off the face of the planet after the tournament ended.
>>
>>123543680
must be a lot more subtle in Infinity, I've never noticed it
>>
>>123577494
>Sick cow camo
Uhh.... No thanks, I'll just stick to my gault camo until the Grabacr re-run happens.
>>
>>123577494
>>123581727
I wonder why they gave it the cow camo in the first place instead of the T50 one, which I really like.

Also, one hour and I'll open the room
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>>123578634
In my limited play time I've had quite a few targets just fly off to no where they don't seem to go up as much as just away from everything else.

Not like they where acting as bait for something else to get on my ass but just full AB towards the horizon
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>>123581949
>planned everything to join
>last minute calling, away for the whole night

Fuck everything. Good luck for you guys/spoiler]
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>>123582302
Well, shit.
>>
>>123581949
Why so late?
>>
>>123582663
I played at the same time yesterday, and since I have only 6 stocked I wanted to get the sixth supplied before going raidhunting
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>excalibur 1
>4 players, no bots
>2 of them were nuggets
>still managed to S rank with under a second to go
>mfw

Why do hosts insist on not opening up the room for more players?
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>>123583187
Greed, stupidity, or both.
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So, just walked 4 miles in the cold rain for this, forcing my friends to tag along. Was it worth it? Also, they got Smash for wii u.
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>>123584071
>$5.99
Where'd you find it? Goodwill?
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>>123584195
Ignore me, upon further inspection it's wrapped and it says used which means it was probably gamestop or some shit I got way too hype and ignored that you said they got smash 4
>>
>>123584071
>they got Smash for wii u.
Waste of time, not worth it

Mad jelly of that planes game you got
>>
>>123582004
oh
I don't mean just fly off in some random direction, I mean they basically activate warp engines and accelerate at impossible speeds away from everything else
it's completely shameless
>>
Hello /aceg/

I'll be hosting a supplied room shortly. Message me if you want an invite.

As always, stream is here: http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni
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>>123585434
Why not wait 20 minutes for Facedrag? We can all play together.
>>
>>123585434
That's probably better than me, the stream chat is also better for small talk rather than spamming here.
>>
>>123585689

>>123585730

Yeah, I have no problem waiting. I don't really care one way or the other.

If someone with a better connection wants to host, that's fine as well.
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>>123536105
>>
So has the dive grass game gone down yet?
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>>123591112
Tomorrow 19:30. I'm guessing GMT. Expect a lot of idol posting.
>>
>>123591621
Yeah, 1930 GMT
Translate that to local time and pay attention to the 4cc General to know where to watch
>>
Excalibur 3, brace for it

http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni
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>>123550895
>Implying it wasnt an ultimate furball after the pic was taken
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>>123594372
>missed what would be the 4th lv. 3 raid in my whole life

Fuck everything
>>
<<Arise>>
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Just tried out the Su-24. That shit handles like a bath tub with wings.
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Is this the F-35's final form?
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>>123600857
No, that's the F-32's first form.
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>>123601078
Surprised they didn't add that instead of the F-35A for all the chubby chasers.
>>
>>123601317
That involves them making a new model from scratch.
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>>123601317
>add an entirely new aircraft model
or
>slightly modify and existing aircraft model
You seriously underestimate their laziness.
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>ACX actually looks astonishingly good when emulated properly
why can't this happen with the PS2 games?
the PS2 is only just more powerful than the PSP but every PS2 emulator out there tends to run like shit whereas PPSSPP works like magic on most toasters
>>
>>123458658
>>123458775
>>123458945
I know I'm late, but thanks lad. It's a shame it's only in runes, I'd really love to read it. Especially since I got the Shinden drop, I was kinda interested on the story behind the whole thing.
>>
>Rena rerun
>She's buffed to 800cost

This is the best news to come home to. All my regrets have vanished. Now I just need to grind slots on her.
>>
>>123607467
>-RN- gets buff
>still stalls out t if you so much as think about touching L1
She's always going to be the worst top-tier 6AAM fighter, boyo.
>>
>>123608120
It's the QAAMs that are going to make me fly her again. Getting boosted to 800 cost means it can one shot Hard Raptors with SP Warhead M.
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>mfw Nagase get on alt account
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The guy with the souped up Dick Bong, care to share some data on it when it reaches level 15? Max speed, time to crash, etc?
>>
>>123610972
Lol that's what you get for using alts
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>mfw I saw someone MVP with an Iori emblem and a "Planning to Propose" nickname
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>>123611070
Never again man, never again.
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>>123611028
> dick bong
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>>123611127
> not wanting to marry a rich girl
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>>123611304
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bong
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>>123611497
but you can't marry a mongolian wood carving, anon
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>>123611028
Time to crash? On the test map? I guess I can, its speed does increase at that level, but it won't be for a long while since it costs 6.6 million. I only got 2.5.
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>>123612363
>but you can't marry a mongolian wood carving, anon
>you can't
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>>123614351
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>>123614351
you can't, as in you cannot, as in
not can(marry(animu_grill))
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>joined a 8 player pipeline hard room
>flew 7 sorties including an excalibur 2
>S ranked every match
>mfw

It feels great flying with competent players.
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>>123616193
>needing 8p to S Pipeline Hard
>competent
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>a new aircraft is available for purchase
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>>123616396
When? Where? What? I still see the R-101 and the F-4E 20th anniversary and the F-15J Tiger.
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>>123617186
nah, I just mean the feeling in general
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>>123614351
Is this you IRL?
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>>123618483
No, this is me desu senpai :^)
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>>123607413
No problem. I'd dump it here but would take forever and all the images would be resized. However, it should be easy to find at ehentai/sadpanda (disregard the source, those are awesome places to find a lot of SFW image sets), and that's where I got the torrent.
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>>123610972
>Alt account
To what end?
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>>123620343
Just for fun, trying new planes, playing more than 3 times per day. I didn't mean nobody no harm.
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>>123619121
That guy actually looks radical as fuck.

There is basically zero chance that someone with those looks is a virgin though.
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>>123619121
>strike witches, beaver, and speedslut
Eh/10
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>>123620416
looks like you only ended up harming yourself :^)
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>>123621438
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Well /aceg/, why are you not building you planefu?

http://www.hlj.com/product/HSGSP299/Air
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>>123620931
>those sideburns
>that stringy-ass hair
>literally a wall of torpedosluts
Nah, definitely on the wizard track
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Less than 2 weeks left until PS Experience to see if AC7 is just a myth or fact
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>>123628528
Less than 2 weeks until we let our sins take reign
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Is the game down right now? I just wanted to log on to take some new planes for a spin in the test flight but I can't even log in.
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>>123624746
Because no money
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>>123628528
Well I'm not buying a PS4 for one game.
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>>123630580
Ok in NZ, check your locale.

http://downdetector.com/status/playstation-network
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>>123624746
> go to check for jolly hornets
> everything is out of stock
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>>123632242
>wanting Jolly Rogers when there are several Blue Angels models for much cheaper
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>>123633091
>Wanting anything that isn't A-10 Kotori
that office lady bullet squirt
hng
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>>123633787
If i knew how to build models I would buy her in a heartbeat. One day.She's $40 on some sites I've seen.
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Can we get some more skins? Maybe something that isn't ATD-0 skin #520,634,781? Also why can't they make it so that once you get an emblem, it's out of your drop pool until you get every random emblem possible? I've gotten the penguin about 500 times now.
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>when you've got every special gold drop BUT tge nagase shinden
this is bullshit
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>>123634158
>If i knew how to build models

That's about as weird as saying "if I knew how to breathe, then I wouldn't be on this respirator." You get some glue and slap a bunch of shit together. There's nothing to know.
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>>123634205
Just give up hope already. Everyone freaks out when they see a gold box or hear some rumors about AC7. The Nagase is never going to happen and AC7 is never going to happen. You keep building up hope and you're just setting yourself up to get let down even harder.
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>>123634173
>Thinking grey crates contain anything but emblems and affect your red/gold crates
They're there for the extra 100 credits.
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>>123634826
I never said that. I just want to finish my emblem collection. I'm sick of getting green arrow, the letter C, and the penguin emblem every single time I sortie.
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>>123624746
Because I build plastic robot since I suck at building plane kits, wouldn't want my planefu to look like shit now would I?
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>>123634158
Depending on the model it's not that hard. Most of them are just clip stuff together, some may require filing or painting but it's pretty easy once you get the hang of it. Unless you're retarded like the infamous mobius/razgriz on figure.fm Check the difficulty scales on HLJ for a better idea.
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>>123635101
What the hell kind of models are you building? They're not rocket science but there is 0 clipping things together involved and painting heavily involved.

Building a model means spending eons gluing shit together, waiting for it to dry, hoping that it didn't dry crookedly, then spending another few millenia trying to paint the damn thing.
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>>123635073
I'm fucking 50, not wasting money on a console for one game son.
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>>123635474
I'm older than you and I don't see your point. I have a PS4 already but if I didn't, I would definitely buy it for AC7. Age has nothing to do with anything here.
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>>123635653
Well *I* won't. When the franchise moves on I'll let it go. This is the first AC I've played, so I have no attachment.
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>>123635653
As for age, the call out was for me not being an adult ffs. Note the post was deleted.
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>>123634173
I just want the goddamn F-4G desert camo skin that I missed out on because I wasn't at home when they ran the tourney for it.

Well, really what I want is a standard gray skin for it like the F-4E has. But this isn't bad.
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>>123636325
the blue skin for the f-4G is pretty good too
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>>123636325
I hate how if you don't live in front of your PS3 24/7, you miss out on so much good shit. So many special planes, emblems, skins, and other goodies that I missed out on because I either couldn't play or I hadn't even started playing yet.

It just sucks when you see every other person in the game flying suave ass planes and you're sitting there flying another generic slab of silver. I feel like every skin challenge lately has been for the ATD and the Zebra skin for the F-15J has been in the shop forever.
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>>123635263
>there is 0 clipping things together involved and painting heavily involved.
Never heard of Gundam model kits? Or the Tomy aircraft kits?
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>>123636834
you just have to have /aceg/ permanently on your browser tab to know what's up.
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>>123637130
I built some Zoids about a million years ago, which were what you describe, but model airplane kits aren't like that. The Hasegawa kits are just gray pieces of plastic that must be glued together and then meticulously painted with the delicate hands of neurosurgeon.

Obviously gluing shit isn't hard, but the entire process is extremely tedious and nothing like putting together Zoids or Gundam kits.
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>>123637243
I do. Unless it's me posting, it's usually just someone posting when the thread hits page 10 in order to keep it from 404ing. Regardless, it's not always enough to know about new happenings. I'm still stuck playing with people who don't attack the aerial units or anything apart from the TGT enemies so that we never get S in Excalibur.
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>>123637243
That was my mistake when I missed out on both sets of 765 emblems, Z.O.E. FALKEN skin, the not-shitty ATD-0 skin, the Fullback, the Rot/Gault emblems, Gold Falcon and the tournament with the F-117A -Stars & Stripes-.
I want that so much. Kind of why I'm hesitant to level up the vanilla Nighthawk just as that one gets a rerun. I also want the patriot Falcon but I missed that one since I wasn't a good goy yet and ended up missing the bracket for it.
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I had 120 fuel at the start of the month and now I'm down to 70, damn my compulsion to dump maximum fuel on emergency sorties
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>>123638627
Well what else are you gonna use your stocked on?
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>>123637483
>people who don't attack the aerial units or anything apart from the TGT enemies so that we never get S in Excalibur.
I don't really know the exact numbers behind this, but I was once in an Excalibur room where I was basically the only guy pulling weight. We only had seconds left so I decided that popping Excalibur was better than failing the mission, so I did it. Three seconds left on the clock and plenty of UAVs left and we got an S.
So at the very least, it's possible without killing all the UAVs.
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>>123638627
You know, there is a pretty strong incentive to forcex6 on ANY tier of the emergency sorties give that 1.5times credits is still on. It's been taken off the announcements, but it's still on.

With both contracts, and all research closed, Excal 1 gives about 700k, and Excal 2 about 1.1mil.
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>>123634417
Seriously, who even started this AC7 hype knowing it may not come ?
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>>123639539
Chinese dataminers who want to fuck with people for fun.
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>>123639578
Heh, I bet he also loves to pester Half-Life fans with Half-Life 3 hype as well.
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>>123639757
The problem is that the dataminer pointed out everything else in other patches. So when he said AC7 emblem event it was grounded in a good history. The bigger problem is that he likes to fuck with people.
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>Nemo Typhoon is actually Fiona Typhoon
bamco pls
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>>123639861
Didn't he tease the Adler this update as well?
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>>123639969
Yes.
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>tfw there will never be another GALM team Ace Combat

:(
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>>123639861
Except for the times he intentionally rused people with false information.
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>>123639969
He might be correct. It's not the first time bamco has added shit in patches way before it's released.
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>>123639969
Yeah, there's event that was announced on bamcos (EU?) news site that was about the ADLER too. It's to appear eventually?
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>>123639861
Well, let's just say that every data he retrieved except AC7 is true. I mean, it's kinda rare for any hints of a new game to be found embedded within the directory of an ongoing F2P game of a franchise.
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>>123639969
>>123640053
https://www.bandainamcoent.eu/news/2015/11/19/ace-combat-infinity-receives-update-12/5404
Here it is, the End of Deception event.
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>>123640115
"Please buy our new game Ace Combat 7 and continue the story of Reaper and the Bone Arrows. It launches on XX/XX/20XX, the same day Ace Combat Infinity's servers go down. To celebrate, here is one final tournament from XX/XX-8/20XX to XX/XX-1/20XX
Progress from Ace Combat Infinity will not carry over to Ace Combat 7"
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>>123640239
>End of deception
The end of lies and scams
bamco you have one job
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>>123640402
>Progress from Ace Combat Infinity will not carry over to Ace Combat 7

It better not. Latecomers missed out on too much good shit already. It better be a clean slate.
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>>123631916
Why not just buy it and wait for DOAX3?
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>>123640618
>DOAX3
Wait a second, anon are you actually playasia trying to get me to buy that game?
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>>123640239
>>123640459
>End of Deception event not an Alect Fenrir or S-32

Come on now.
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>>123640681
No. I'm just an ordinary guy struggling to buy PS4 just because of that game. And if AC7 really comes and really comes to PS4 then I can just go buy it.
BTW Helena's delicious. Momoji and Rachel are fine too. Kasumi and Ayane now become shit.
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OFFICIAL ACE COMBAT SQUADRON POWER RANKINGS

1. Galm

POWER GAP

2. Gault
3. Gelb
4. Wizard

POWER GAP

5. Sorcerer
6. Indigo
7. Espada
8. Strigon
9. Silber
10. Grabacr
11. Schwarze
12. Ofnir

POWER GAP

13. Schnee
14. Grun
15. Rot

POWER GAP

90000000000000001. Razgriz
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>6x forced
>Nagase
>Albiero
>meager tickets
>meager credits
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>>123640239
After reading this, I think that the dataminers might meant that AC7 is ACX, chronologically the 7th entry in the Strangereal universe. AC3 is the 8th since it takes place decades after ACX.
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>>123641141
Mobius is technically a squad too you know. Redo the entire rankings with the portable squads too.
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>>123640927
>no mila
>no lisa
I'm somewhat upset, but momiji's in so it's kind of o
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>>123641235
It's the 7th mainline entry in general though.

AC, AC2, AC3, AC4, AC5, ACZ, ACX.
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>>123641279
>portable
lmao
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>>123641141
>Missing 1/2, 3, 4, 6, X if you only wanted to rank Strangereal, missing X-2 & AH if ranking across the series
>"hilarious" use of Over 9000 placing a player character's squadron at the bottom because you don't like them I guess?

0/10 Don't see me after class just go and stay go
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>Finally got a Ranko
>I don't have a high level plane that's not an idol plane to put it on
maybe I should just get that silent eagle,
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>>123641602
>chopper
>nagase
likeable
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>>123641676
So then make a popularity poll rather than a power ranking.
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>>123641141
>Placing Belkan rejects over any B7R named squad
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>>123641676
<< Do you even like rock music? >>
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Ace combat 7 will be a f2p mobage game
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>>123636248
Actually, I deleted my post because I responded to the wrong person accidentally. That post wasn't for you. Sorry if I made you grumpy gramps.
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>>123641896
I'd still play it I would just hate myself.
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Is this game still alive, buddy?
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>B-2's speed becomes a astonishing B+ at lv.18
>I still have at least 0.1 billion credits to save for this
Oh, for crying out loud.
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>>123641896
It'll be just another Sky Gamblers-esque game under Ace Combat title.
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>>123642309
you mean Sky Crawlers?
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>>123642309
>Sky Gamblers
>Ace Combat Pachinko inbound
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>>123646043
Ace combat going into konami-esque ending eh?

MGS Collab when
>ac7, kept you waiting huh
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>>123646137
>They reach mission 8 while making the campaign and then drop everything
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Day 8492:
Bamco still has done nothing with that INFINITE-111 Mobius recolor emblem
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>>123644940
No, it's Sky Gamblers. A series of arcade combat flight on Android and iOS that started with the WWI-themed Sky Gamblers Rise of Glory. There's also the modern jets (albeit fictionalized version of them) instalments titled Sky Gamblers Air Supremacy. The first few games were published by Bamco. The things I dont like about those games is that we're not allowed to choose our favorite aircrafts for each campaign missions.
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>>123624746
I can't even build gunpla or 40k miniatures decently. If I could pay someone to do it for me.
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I've only played Ace Combat 3 US and Ace Combat 5. Need more. But no PS3. Any chance Infinity comes to PC
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>>123656189
Nope
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>>123656623
God damit
>>
Don't forget, today at 19:30 GMT we play a not so friendly game of divegrass against /@/. A link will be provided before the game starts. If you want to check out the earlier matches head to /4ccg/ for more info.
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>>123657971
Thanks, @bandai_namco
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I haven't touched my alt in ages. I've now decided to use it as an occasional Piston fuck-around account. I'm looking forward to the world of stronk american planes.
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Gonna burn my 6 supplied before the friendlies.

Anyone up for a room in about 30min?
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>>123656189
>>123656623
>>123656751
Bishop : <<Guts, when will Infinity comes to PC ?>>
Guts : <<Sorry, Boss. Infinity is PS3 exclusive. No PC port for us.>>
Bishop : <<Shit !>>
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Soon?
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>>123656189
>>123656751

Try Assault Horizon, it's on PC...

nah, just kidding.
>>
Soon
>>
Quick poll, how much have you spent in this twisted game?

I have been playing since the beginning, took a break of about 4-5 months, and I have spent about 130USD. I've gotten all the tourney rewards I REALLY wanted, which are mostly NTDM-related.
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>>123666998
been playing this since beta, spent zero dollars so far.
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>>123666550
Live now with other friendlies
uselessnepgear on twitch
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>>123666998
$10, one Rookie pack and 4 hangar expansion sets.
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About an hour and 40 minutes to the game if I got the time right.
Should probably add soccer information to the OP while this is a thing. I don't have anything bookmarked.
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WHAT THE FUCK? ACE COMBAT IS STILL POPULAR?

FILL ME IN BOYS, I HAVEN'T PLAYED AC SINCE THE UNSUNG WAR.

HOW DO I CATCH UP?
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>>123669820
You dont,forget we exist,it'll be better for you
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>>123669820
>ACE COMBAT IS STILL POPULAR?
It's not popular at all. We just refuse to eject.
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>>123669893
But I fucking loved AC5, and the ones before it.

Help me.
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>>123670026
Play zero and 6 and maybe X, those were the last good ones, now were just on a crashing plane and waiting for the impact
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>>123670158
Regardless of consumer reviews, are they as good as AC5? Do they at least offer the same experience?

I fucking hate whoever created these threads, the nostalgia is rushing in, and it hurts.
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>>123670641
They are as good if not better (6 is about on par)
Assault Horizon is just Call of Duty with planes, and Infinity is a cash grab
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>>123666998
Nothing.
2€ for 4 hangar slots tempted me, but I currently spent no money at all in my life on the PSN and I wouldn't want to break the record.
>>123670641
0 is arguably better, It surely improved the little bit it could on gameplay, it's basically flawless.
And X's only flaw is being on PSP, yet on the other hand you have PPSSPP which is made with black magics and emulates it perfectly even on pre-war toasters.
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>>123670641
>Do they at least offer the same experience?
Yes, they do, although you have limited resources when it comes to your teammates. Instead of 3 people, you have one wingman in zero, and none in X. Anyways, it's still the same game, just based on different conflict in Strangereal.

Also, any stream today?
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>>123671276
Our team plays at 1930 GMT
Twitch channel is uselessnepgear
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>>123661157
Still playing?
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>>123671914
Nope. Got a Excalibur II, burnt 3 fuel, got a golden crate. 3 fuel back. Oh well.
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>>123671248
>>123671275
>>123671276
Thanks, boys. Looks like I'll have to binge on AC for the next couple of months.

RIP Chopper
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>>123672087
He'll be on the pitch in about 40min btw
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>>123672087
Have fun
Stick with us, it's a comfy way to watch a series die
>>
Does TLS have any damage penalties/bonuses against anything? I want to try to git gud at it.
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>>123584195
Nah, a store called Movie trading company. The game is pretty fun, just got <<Bingo yahoo!>> stuck in my head though.
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>>123672308
It just does all around OK damage. Stick with the Buddy TLS since the fighter damage bonus isn't enough for the Falken to one shot mig-21s.
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/dng/ won against the feggots, we are the next in line to crash and burn.
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>>123673717
Should I ready the rigmachines?
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>>123673717
its /ink/ vs /mgg/ now
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>>123673717
There's /ink/ vs /mgg/ and /nintyg/ vs /ffg/ before
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>>123673869
>>123673875
I'm a retard, it's 19:30 GMT +0.
It's the next hour
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>>123672087
It's far from dead. Over 10k people participated in the last tournament and over 3k were playing diligently. That's a lot more than even some of the top most played games on Steam. It's not quite dead so much as it is ruined by the f2p model. This is the only game I know of that forces you to conduct microtransactions if you want to keep playing.
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>>123673717
With Chopper on our team we only have one choice.
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>>123674451
It's the standard for japanese F2P games now, even if they are generally card based.
We got lucky we had planes drop and the ticket shop instead of some premium gachapon.
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>>123674635
Yo are you playing today? I have 5 stocked that I'm going to burn right now. Would rather play with trustworthy people than randoms in my shitty MR bracket.
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>>123674863
5 supplied*
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>>123674984
I'd join you after the game. I need to look up soccer rules and all that. I don't really know anything about soccer.
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>>123674635
>premium gachapon
I completely forgot about that. We really dodge a bullet. I can't imagine paying to roll for a plane and getting 600 credits.
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>>123674863
I'll see if my PS3 survives yet again YLOD, i should get my fifth supplied in less than an hour, then I'm good.
I would go after the soccer match tho.
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>>123675209
I'll just burn my fuel now then. If I'm still playing when you sign in, I'll invite you.
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>>123675209
Actually at the rate people are joining, you will have your 6th supplied fuel by the time I even get to sortie once.
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>>123675159
>implying that's not how the post-mission drops work
>>
I got the Cocoon, should I invest on it? I'm a shitter with a level 7 A-10 and 6 F-15C
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>>123675209
But when fuel is $.99, isn't it real-
>>123675645
fucking beat me to it
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>>123675661
LACMs are incredibly good, but kinda sparce.
6AAMs are 6AAMs and LASM will never be bad.
On the other hand the Cocoon is pretty damn expensive.
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>>123675661
It's a better -Vent- and the -Vent- is already one of the best multiroles in the game.
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>>123675645
I see them as rewards for playing a game. Its not like we are directly paying for the drop. In most cases that is.
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Alright everyone get hyp
/ink/ and /mgg/ are wrapping things up soon, then /nintyg/ and /ffg/ are playing
After them, it's our zero hour
Good luck, Nemo
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>>123676817
Link?
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>>123677102
uselessnepgear on twitch, it was posted earlier.
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>>123676817
wait I don't understand, it's not starting in 9 minutes?
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>>123676817
How many games has /aceg/ participated in so far?
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>>123677558
Games are running a little late, so we'll be starting whenever the match ahead of us is wrapped
>>123677574
This will be our first
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>>123677574
Maiden Flight
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>>123677701
>Not first flight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgNGtGI-XbM&list=PLB5A294C912C49005&index=8
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>>123677642
so how many minutes until V2 launch?
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Someone post girls can't be aces for /4ccg/ I'm sure everyone will appreciate it.
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>>123677865
About 30 or so, but I'd tune in now, just to watch the games and to make sure I catch the opening
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Alright lads, almost time.
About 15 minues to launch.

<<Let's do this.>>
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>>123677642
>>123677701
>>123677814
May we be victorious.
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>chat is just /aceg/
That's a tell of how ded this twisted game is.
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>>123678405
>Not may the victor be justice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGHAID1cs3Y&list=PLA34334E24E820B75&index=37

Post your hype musics
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>>123678790
Nah, it's just because the match is close. We'll soon resume complaining about gold drops
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>>123678838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bYkVhO3Aoc
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>>123678838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi9EKo8tXx4&index=42&list=PL23A635021128F21F
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>>123678790
Nah, we're just hyp
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>>123678838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrlLne0qPvo
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>>123678838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVu-kW5f2Cc
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlQ5KxTMmnU

HYPE
Y
P
E
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>>123678838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FRxDcF-dxw

Still upset its not one of our songs.
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>>123678838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDwvam8-pM&list=PLDD61C76EF278E530&index=7
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Excal I up if anyone wants an invite. Better come quickly.
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>>123680087
Still in deep YLOD here, sorry.
>>
<<ITS TIME>>
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>>123680387
People are actually leaving the room so it's taking forever to fill up. Too bad you can't make it, it's also two times drops reward.
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>>123680520
V2 launch imminent
Get in twitch dot tv slash uselessnepgear if you aren't in already
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<<It's Time>>
search uselessnepgear on twitch.
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>>123680606
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Here we go.
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>>123680539
>People are actually leaving the room
Everyone went to see /@/ vs /aceg/ :^)
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<< It's time. >>
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Nemo wtf get your ass on skype
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/.A.C.E.G./
/aceg/,lets hear it!
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>/@/ playing offside trap

Fuck.
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>>123680387
You missed out man! That 2x drop bonus helped. I got 76k credits + Nagase!

We barely won. 19 seconds left on the clock. Luckily my teammates all pick A2A special weapons so they were able to clean up the drones.
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>30 tickets chocking
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CRASH AND BURN
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>>123681810
Damn, nice one!
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Fuck kind of defending is that?
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Fucking idols ruin everything
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>>123682129
N-no
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>Sack Nemo
>Sack Nemo
>Sack Nemo
>Sack Nemo
>Sack Nemo
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REMOVE NEMO, BELKA DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>123683052
BELKA DID EVERYTHING WRONG. REMOVE BELKA.
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Petition to not meme it up next time
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>Belka keeping
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Lets bring nemo to a mountain range under the guise that its a friendly rendezvous and shoot him down
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Eject!
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YO BUDDY
YO BUDDY
YO BUDDY
YO BUDDY
YO BUDDY
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TOP PIXY
O
P

P
I
X
Y

Confirmed greatest ace
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V2 INBOUND
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>Tfw I have no computer access and my mobile data plan is far too shitty to watch

Why fucking live?
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PIXY!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5muaeyOiT7Y
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>Belkek
My sides
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BELKA DROPS THE BALL
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Probably should have made those changes a while ago

>Belka
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>Belka dropping nukes in its own clay again
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>the nation of Belka

we asked for this, really.
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fuck you belka! nuke yourself!
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Thanks Belka
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>>123683683
Nemo is the true enemy here
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>>123683683
Petition to rotate skyeye in as GK
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By the way, I have three supplieds and five stockeds, I'm opening a room giping for a raid in one hour
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>Belka
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>I missed the game
So what was the score?
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>>123684046
3-1 /@/
Belka really dropped the bomb on this one
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>>123684046
2-1 to idols.
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>>123684046
BELKA DROPPED BALL. CRASH AND BURN.
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Well, same time next week aces?
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>>123684046
Pixy launched a V2 and almost managed to reset the game. But he was shot down.
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>>123684314
Salute pixy,he was a great hero in trying to repel the idol menace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2atlpj7AGXU
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>>123684046
Belka literally dropped the ball

>>123684241
We need to wait for the matchups after the friendlies. We still don't know who we'll be playing.

Also, Nemo what ever you did at the end do it again at the beginning of the next match!
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>>123684395
Remember Pixy, a Buddy to the end
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REMOVE NEMO
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>>123684667
Nah, just rework strategy
We really need to have a different formation going into group stages, we lack offensive push and pass retention
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>>123684667
Operation: Remove nemo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t47XvzN0W5g
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>>123684447
>Also, Nemo what ever you did at the end do it again at the beginning of the next match!

Because that'll work against every other team? It worked well in this case, but not every team is going to play the same.

And to you guys talking about sacking Nemo, I'd like to see you find someone better than him to replace him. Sure he's totally green, but everybody has to start somewhere. At least it wasn't a 6-1 loss.
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>>123685038
I think it's just typical post-loss calling for blood.
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>>123685038
Exactly. You want Nemo out, you better be ready to carry us to the cup.
In any case, formations and tactics are gonna need tweaking before the group stages
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Eh, sorry guys. I know it's no excuse but basically everything went wrong in my side. Considering this game didn't allow formation changes and I couldn't get the Skype cam working (I was watching like 45s behind the game, didn't even get the anthems), there wasn't much to do. Most instructions were given beforehand, in case something happened. It was a good experience to see how our team reacted to a packed midfield, and we have tactical options for that but couldn't use anyway, so let's do better at the cup.

Anyway, I know there was a lot of expectation and starting with a loss isn't a good thing. I'm really sorry. We can only face forward, so let's try our best for the incoming games. Once again, I've said since day one I can't run matches, and without testers we rely mostly on live-managing, I got the short end of the stick this time but things will be difficult anyway, so be prepared. But hey, any help is welcome.

>>123684447
>>123684808
It was mostly due to flexible positioning, that's kind of suicidal. We have other options (which, once again, I couldn't use today for several reasons).
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>>123685239
More like it needs tailoring to the opponent. It's not a bad export but every team plays differently.
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If you want Nemo out, show that you know your shit by sating what we could have done differently or shut the fuck up.
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>>123685332
Ah, don't worry about that.
We should thank you for doing it in the first place.
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>>123685332
It was just a friendly match.
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>>123685332
Hey, it's a friendly. People are just salty our first showing wasn't stellar
Besides, this might convince people to help test
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>>123685332
I don't now why someone is freaking out over a simple twisted game
Thanks for your work.
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>>123685332
It was a bit like Eugene Solano's first AWACS job, Don't worry. One day the Gryphus will smile for you.
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Is there any reason to NOT take the A-10 over level 5? I saw some people talking about it a few threads ago and they said that level 5 is perfectly fine for the A-10. I'm planning on using it as one of my main attackers so I want it to be viable against high MRs.
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>>123685494
>>123685520
>>123685648
>>123685838
>>123685865
Nah, that's good thing. It means the community cares about it. You should see how ugly things become when /m/ loses.

Not saying I'm comfortable with it anyway, but hey, there's always tomorrow. And at least we got the best boy to score.
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>>123685961
No good reason to limit your hog to level 5 speeds when you can take it higher
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>>123685961
I have been playing since the beta and most of my sorties has been on a vanilla A10.
Never bothered going over level 10 becauese it just works, jusr not on LASM maps.
Also level 11 is 2 fucking millions.
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>>123685961
How high are we talking?

In general, attackers are more forgiving of low levels, but level 5 might not be enough if we are talking MR 2000+
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>>123686167
>>123686186
Cool thanks, I'll take it to 10 then eventually.

>>123686247
Yeah I'm talking about 2000+. I'm probably like a year or more away from achieving that though. Still 1600 MR.
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>>123685332

I noticed that the formation was 4-3-2-1. The midfield has to be very versatile in attacking and defending to work properly, especially if the center midfielder is more attacking oriented, otherwise you get holes in the defensive setups that the backs alone can't cover.

Have you considered moving to a 4-3-3 like pic related? I noticed that /@/ dominated possession, but having one midfielder to shore up defense might save us on the odd through ball by having 5 sitting back, while the two MFs can at least come up a bit to support the attack more comfortably.
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Why is Scamco so slow to cycle new items through the store? I want to spend my tickets and I'd really like to see some skins that I have already missed.
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>>123686131
Good luck. We'll be here next week for more divegrass
Also, >>123686369 put up a suggestion. Maybe move that to one of our presets?
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>>123686369
You basically described our custom formation. It's more like a 4-1-2-3, to keep attacking pressure.
Frankly, the regular formation was made to allow for a lot of customization and partly because of the looks (pic related). But it was supposed to hold on the midfield and advance quickly to the striker through short-passing, and /@/ denied that. I'll try looking into it to see if we can update anything during this week.
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>>123686365
Level 5 A-10 should yield about ~1800-1900MR without too much trouble. And A-10 is a cheap aircraft to level.
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Is the Nagase Shinden worth leveling? I'm not a fan of the special weapons. On the other hand, it could be useful for future challenges since I don't plan on buying the standard version, and it looks really nice.

Weird how at level 1, it handles infinitely better than every other aircraft that I own. It turns on a dime. Only complaint is that it's pretty slow.
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>>123687483
It has high CST, good development potential, and SPW that can really hit given love
And it's speed isn't bad either
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>>123688020
How about the MTD Stripes? Is it still useful without the LAGMs?
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>>123687483
SP planes generally start with different stats to a tree aircraft, generally you can start using them right away.

The speed is actually for level 1. The fact it reaches S+ speed at level 11 makes it one of the fastest LASM craft on top of that.

LASM packs a lot of punch in A2G if you can get used to its idiosyncrasies, 6AAM is twisted. QAAM a shit.
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>>123688276
Yeah the only utility I see for it in my arsenal is the LASM. Currently I just have the F/A-18 for LASMs but I'm not a fan of that plane.

I already have a Su-35 that I plan on using for 6AAMs.
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>>123688268
Just make it a FAEBoat and you'll score high as the cancer of the game
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>>123688268
FAEB makes it the meta in Moscow. HVAA is an interesting choice for A2A. 4AAM is lackluster, specially when compared to 6AAM, but it's viable in most maps.

6AAM has same damage per missile, and huge ammo counts. The only downside is reload, which is actually not a downside, because you get 6 missiles per reload, and you could just put on reload parts.
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Room going up in ten minutes, if anyone's interested
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>>123687059

My primary concern with a formation like that is that it plays too narrow, which is why the short passing game was not working properly and not leaving space for the forwards to move in, especially considering that I'm under the assumption that one of the midfielders can't defend well.
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>>123688581
I have exactly one sortie if you don't mind me shitting up the room again. I started at 5/6 so I should have my last one by now.
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>>123688581
I might as well come play with you again.
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>>123688581
I'll join. I don't think I have you added though.
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>>123689219
>>123689295
Gladly.
I'm setting it up now when you are ready
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>>123689383
Add me on M21MASSY and I'll invite you.
Currently maps are on random because apparently they boost raid's appareance
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Goddammit, I was working when the game happened. I know we lost, but is there a recording somewhere?
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>>123689851
Should be on uselessnepgear's twitch
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>>123689942

Oh right, been a while since I used twitch. Thanks.
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>>123688741
It looks like this as of now.
I can only think of swapping to a 4-4-2 keeping Pixy as the playmaker and moving Mobius up to SS. Any suggestions?
You seem knowledgeable, it would be really neat to have an advisor.
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>>123690168
I'm still concerned about having only one player in such an exposed forward position, especially if the opposition fires up a close defense
Could we scale him back and move up a midfielder to balance it out?
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Well I thought I had all 6 emblems but apparently I was missing one last one. Wish it was 30 tickets or 3 fuel but hey at least I'm finally out of the drop pool for these forsaken emblems.
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>>123690661
>he thinks it's over
CG part 3 to begin soon anon.
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Oh, the group draw is happening if you're interested.

>>123690323
The idea was for both AMFs (or at least Pixy) to provide support, along Edge and Slash, but it didn't work well.
With the proper setup these changes could fix the lack of offensive presence
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>>123691085
>we're up against /dng/
Fuck
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>>123690168

If we can move Pixy and Mobius to a wider position, it can open up space in the middle. >>123690323 is asking for a False 9 style formation, which would rely heavily on the wingers to bring the ball into the box. As the formation is now, I feel like it's too narrow in the middle, and the striker is a bit too far up in the formation to get caught offside. Ideally, having the fullbacks NOT join in coming forward would let us have better defensive flexibility, as long as the two forward sitting CM's (Cipher and Scarface) can cover that space as well.

I have played quite a bit of FIFA, so that's why I have knowledge of formations and how things can work in-game. I'd think the core principle applies to PES as well.
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>>123691083
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>>123659943
Thanks a good idea. I'm about to do the same but piston rooms are often dead. I see people sitting at Retro Combat Evaluation forever and people never join.
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>>123691253
Final draw results put us against /dng/, /drg/, and /gsg/
Anyone got any dirt on them?
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>>123692178
/dng/ is a definite loss but I'm feeling pretty optimistic about the rest of the group.
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>>123691894
I wanted to use the alt to fly pistons in jet rooms though. I estimate Piston MR is about a 200MR drop, unless you have it absurdly levelled.
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>>123692220
Hey, it's an odd cup. Apparently, /dng/ is fucked before they start
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>>123692178
/dng/ won the cup twice
/gsg/ has a good record and a pone tester
we can aim for top 22 if anything
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Sure this random rotation is fucked up.
Avalon thrice in a row
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>>123692251
>mfw Nagase AND Albireo on alt account

I just wanted to fly the fucking pistons. Why does this keep happening? Fuck this alt account, I'm done with this shit.
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>>123693495
Weird, that match with pistons though.
And I lost connection for some reason.
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Also PS3 had the decency to crash in lobby and not in flight.
Still, sorry about that, I think I will have to open it sooner or later.
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>>123693495
Are you sure random rotation increases the odds of a raid? The odds for gold raids are currently increased anyway as of yesterday I believe.
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>>123693696
Nothing confirmed, but it seemed to work.
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>>123691085

Ideally, pic related is how I'd have the team line up. Note the way the connection from the 2 CM's goes up to the wingers, that way if one of them moves forward, the other can at least cover the middle on a counter attack with the sitting DM.

I can also try to create a 2-striker system for anyone interested, just let me know. However, I feel that a standard 4-4-2 is a bit too wide, and might leave gaps on the counter attack,
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>>123693651
It's ok. Are you going to host a new game?
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>>123692635
>>123692220
>>123692178
Why can't we win? I don't really know anything about this soccer business but I don't see the point in aiming anywhere but #1.
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>>123693914
If you could cook up good counter formations for our draw opponents, as outlined in >>123692178, that would help a lot
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>>123694194
/dng/ is a former champ, but they're going into an odd cup, which they traditionally don't do well in
/gsg/ has a match tester from the horse board, so they're guaranteed to have some autist running test matches against us
Only real weak link is /drg/
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>>123694042
I'm still trying to turn it on but it doesn't listen to reason and I were at 0 stocked, I'm thinking of postponing the whole thing directly tomorrow at the same hour
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>>123694208

If I can get a link to at least one of their pages, I can probably have a go at it. I have no idea how they'd line up (do they show them on their wiki pages?), but a 4-3-3 offers flexibility against most opposing formations.

I can try a few things, short of being a cunt and lining up with 5 at the back like most Mexican teams.
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>Yellow 13 to 20
or
>Strigon to 20
help me choose for this wild ride, I love both equally
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>>123694406
I don't know what most of those words mean.
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>>123694446
Ok, I had fun playing with you, especially that last match. I'll probably come and play tomorrow too.
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>>123694467
I don't think they'll show them, but it's worth a check. Best option would be to find some resource to see their formations based on the exports that doesn't involve buying PES15
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>>123694631
/dng/ is the Dueling Network General. Their team has a /vg/ league title under their belt, so we're banking on effectively folklore and superstition to keep them down
/gsg/ is Grand Strategy General. One of their posters is associated with the pony board, which means he's probably going to run test matches against their opponents to work out strategy beforehand
/drg/ is Dangan Ronpa General. They're the weakest of our opponents, but I don't know much about their match history
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>>123694446
Sorry I couldn't pull my weight. I thought I could bring my alt account since your MR was lower on the pilot list...
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>>123694637
Even just once we have to set up a full /aceg/ piston-only room in avalon.
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>>123694591
I think Strigon looks cooler.
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>>123695079
>/aceg/ only piston
The anon with the overleveled Dick Bong would just come in and curbstomp everyone
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>>123694591
Yellow 13 is a cool guy
Bring luck to his name
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Does anything special happen when you thank a teammate after he gets the decoy bonus on your plane?
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>>123694664

I'm not sure if the export files contain formations, but I'll see what I can do when I get to my own laptop and download an export reader. I already have a couple of ideas with regards to more defensive formations and having two forwards.
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>>123695519
I've got a level 11 Marseille, could give him a decent run for his money.
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Do combustion L and Bomb enhancement L have the same power?
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>>123696197
I was on a level 9 vanilla Bf.
If you haven't tried the long-barrel MG part on the Bf do it now.
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>>123695968
You feel nice inside
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>>123695968
<thanks mate!>
<Good save>
<thanks>
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>>123696301
They do not, enhancement L does about as much as combustion M.
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>>123694591
Strigon is rarer if you're into that bling factor. Seen several Yellow 13s but never a Strigon, plus there are like 4 yellow versions that all look alike except for the numbers.

But the true answer can only be found in your own heart anon.
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>>123694591
Look into your kokoro anon
And see that being a gentleman is better
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>>123696308
My slots are taken up by the Mg Pow L and New Ammo L. Long barrel is about 6 slots away. It's going to take a while.
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>decided to host a Avalon piston room
>to no surprise nobody joins
I probably wouldn't fill this on no restrictions.
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>>123695986
Preset 1 formations for /dng/, /gsg/, and /drg/ are 4-1-2-3 wide positioned like 4-2-1-3 (/dng/), 4-1-2-1-2 wide (/gsg/), and 3-2-2-3 (/drg/)
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>>123700127
What about alternates?
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>>123691375
>>123693914
>>123694467
>>123695986
Thanks. I'll try installing the game in another machine to run a few tests. Tried here a few minutes ago, it ran in slow motion, the cooler almost exploded and Pixy scored a goal within 20 seconds. For fucks sake.

If you want, get my skype contact (nemo_electrosphere) and we can sort out things more quickly. PES formation settings are fairly generous and apparently we'll be able to modify anything related to it before the matchdays provided we send the exports on time.
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>>123698707
I always want to join piston rooms when I see them but I don't have any piston aircraft yet. I've only been playing for a few months or so so I'm still working on not having shit jets. It's going to take a long time before I get to pistons but I'm looking forward to sitting around for 5 hours and waiting for the room to fill up.
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>>123700221
/dng/ probably won't ever use their alternate presets knowing their management; they haven't even set alternate presets up (they're both Malaga default 4-2-3-1)

/gsg/ has a 5-2-1-2 and this fucking thing (pic related) that they probably won't ever use

/drg/ has 4-2-2-2 and 4-3-3 narrow
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>>123700249
Heads up to both of you about the formations of our opponents
>>123700127
>>123700648
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>>123700127

>3-2-2-3
What in the fuck. That and /gsg/ 's 3rd formation are completely retarded.

>>123700249
No problemo, when I get home from work we can work out the details over Skype.
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<<Ruse>>
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Weirdly enough, I just got done playing campaign mission 8 with the Nageshinden. The the ending scene when Edge is flying next to your aircraft her Shinden is in the "default" slow-speed mode but yours in flying in the "fast" mode, even though they're both flying at exactly the same speed.

It's those little details that show how Bamco feels about ACI.
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>>123703420
It may take a while for me to set everything up (also kinda tired), but if you need anything or have any questions just send it and I'll answer ASAP

Once again, thanks
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>>123705903
Well at least the altimeters and shit work inside the aircraft cockpits. I thought that was pretty cool.
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What were they thinking when they added the Dorito Raptor? Those special weapons, that speed, that mobility - it blows other attackers out of the water.
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>>123708174
Because when it was released
SOD was/is still really shit
GPB won't ever be meta
SFFS was slept on. Only a couple people knew about how good SFFS was until a few weeks after FB-22 came out and they threw out all those FB-22 challenges for free contracts. I mean these were the days when people were still recommending the use of 4AGMs for F-15E.
Everybody was clamoring onto MBPM hoping they were the new meta to replace the recent nerf of LAGM/UGB.

Since then, I have no idea why they haven't significantly nerfed SFFS on FB-22, that's the only problem with it.
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>>123709485
The base speed and mobility is also kind of ridiculous. So many attackers are absolute shit tier like the Frogfoot and Harrier even when they reach level 10. The SOD is very underrated.
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>>123710052
Speed and mobility don't mean shit if it doesn't have the SPW to meta-the-fuck out of people. It's why YF-23 is slept on. Yeah it'll be good but it's not 6AAMs.

SOD is underrated now but back then, @L4, you couldn't one shot XSAMs on FB-22. It was really that awful.
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So what happened with that kickball game?
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>>123711324
archive.klaxa.eu/VGL5/Friendlies_and_draw/

Everything went wrong, we lost 2-1 but Pixy almost saved the day
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>>123711324
We lost, 2-1. Pixy scored our only goal, and there were many cries of V2 and twisted games being reset. Also, Belka literally dropped the ball at the very end.
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>>123711937
>Pixy scored our only goal
<< Solo wing's gonna steal all the credit again! >>
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Https://www.playstation.com/en-us/campaigns/2015/playstation-experience/
No mention of Ace Combat on the list. Hype is over. Good night.
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>>123712383
>Don't worry; there will be plenty of surprises left over!

plz 1job bamco plz
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>>123712383
It's not going to happen. Stop having ridiculous expectations and you won't get let down. It's literally NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
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>>123713480
>>123712565
I dunno man, Kono was tweeting about working long hours a while ago. Maybe this is it?
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>>123715213
It isn't

ded game
ded franchise
ded fanbase
ded threds
ded planes
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>>123715453
You sound pretty upset. Are you having a bad day?
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>>123717253
No AC7 confirmation. Every day is a bad day. Why even live.
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>>123718502
Just gotta survive
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>>123694406
>>123694968
>/drg/ is Dangan Ronpa General. They're the weakest of our opponents, but I don't know much about their match history
Yeah hi, I'm from /drg/. I saw we were up against /dng/, /gsg/, and you guys here at /aceg/. So I looked through the generals and searched for some mentions of the divegrass friendlies. You guys and us are the only general threads with any posts that care about this, so I decided to chip in here.

/dng/ are pretty good. So are /gsg/.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//dng/#Match_History
I'd like you to look to the right, under Biggest Defeat.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//drg/
Notice First Match and Biggest Win.
Yeah it's basically /dng/ and /drg/ the first match of the Group Stage, as can be seen here
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_5#Group_A

I noticed also that you guys are
>ded franchise
>ded threds
>ded fanbase
>ded game
We at /drg/ are
>franchise going to get news on new game soon
>threads keep dying every few days
>fanbase outside of /drg/ is majority cancerous
>studio keeps denying us info on the upcoming game to see our despair
I hope you guys get out of Group Stage with us. You're not flying solo here, as far as we're concerned. Just wanted to let you guys know.

Goodnight /aceg/.
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>>123722571
So you'll be fighting against a team seeking to avenge its greatest loss
Good luck, with /dng/, you're gonna need it
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>>123717253
Nah, just MVP'd a Excalibur in my Flanker so everything's fine, but as >>123718502 pointed, i'm just stating a fact.

Ofnir can confirm the mvp bit btw
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>>123723684
You yourselves are up against Grand Strategy General right after us.
Their match history and some info are here:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//gsg/

>tfw majority of /4ccg/ people predict /gsg/ and /dng/ are gonna win
>tfw people say "Poor /aceg/"
Prove them wrong.
>Land strategy has nothing on the valiance of the skies!
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>>123724492
belka will drop the bombs and not the ball
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>>123722571
>>123724492
You guys are cool, here's to a good game when the time comes for both generals.
If one of the teams advance would be enough of an upset, and both would be awesome. But let's take one step after another.
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To the guy who burned 350 stocked and still didnt' get the Nagase, did you ever end up getting it?
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>>123722571
>>123724492
It's official: /drg/ are the Ultimate Bros. Best of luck to you guys. I'll be rooting for you.

Never give up hope. The darker the night, the more glorious the dawn.

On an unrelated note:
>Please select all squares with turkeys in them.
captcha pls. It's only been two days since Thanksgiving and I'm already sick of turkey.
>>
>Finally get Cocoon to 10; Beast halfway to 10

Once Beast is out of the way, I can finally save up my money for Alect Fenrir. I just hope I get lucky with raid encounters tomorrow.
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>>123729695
I think raid chances are up. You should have before 7 sorties.
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>>123724492
You guys are cool
Good luck with /dng/
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>4/8 retro combat evaluation room
>doesn't have any aircraft restrictions
Somehow I think joining this room would be a good idea.
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>>123733193
You can't join it if you don't have a piston fighter that you can sortie with.
>>
So let's pretend that I have no idea how any of the soccer stuff works (IRL or however the backend stuff works in the cup.)

Is there any way for me to help the team?
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>>123733507
Cheer hard whenever we're up to play
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>>123733507
Stream more Ace Combat. Please.
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>>123733276
But I could, because it was actually on Excalibur.
The point is that if you see a retro room which isn't restricted to pistons you should get in there, since that means it's a raid.
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>>123733683
stream airforce delta strike
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>>123733890
Intredasting. Thanks for the tips.
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>>123734048
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>>123734746
The absolute madman
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>>123734746
He actually did it dear god
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>>123735714
That might as well be my callsign at this point.
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>>123726124
350Anon here, nope. Didn't even get albeiro either. Got syuko though
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>>123736870
Jesus. Don't give up.
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>>123736870
(1)8002738255

Here anon, you may need this number.

Hang in there.
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>>123736870
holy shit man, if there's any proof of RNG fucking somone over this would be it
>>
>increased drop rate for rare items
why do they lie?
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>>123742437
0.01% > 0.02% is still an increase :^)
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>>123742506
More like 0.001% --> 0.0015% anon.
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>>123742506
>implying it's not 0.01% to 0.011%
on a related note, I bought the standard shinden because I just want to fly one, take a guess what fucking dropped for me on the next round?
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Holy shit there are so many people online right now. 3:00 AM confirmed for busiest hour.
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>>123744840
Its only like 9:17PM here anon.
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>>123745425
Where the fuck do you live? The Aleutian islands?
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>>123745425
New Zealand?
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>>123734048
>>123734746
I already have that game as well as a capture device. I could stream it right now if I wanted to.
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>>123746323
Bingo.
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>Get to the next part of the upgrade form challenge
>7 A-ranks in a Flatpack
>Flatpack is at level 1

How the hell am I supposed to do this challenge? Dedicated challenge rooms are filled with people doing their challenges instead of playing for real so there's no guarantee of an A-rank. "Not concerned about results room" run the same risk by virtue of people experimenting with less optimal builds. What does that leave? I could just join a normal room and hope to get carried, but then I'd fuck over my teammates by not doing all I can do and that feels kind of dirty.
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>>123750571
do clean up duty in a regular room, go after leftover targets, leave the high valued targets to your teammates
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>>123736870
I can't help but wonder if this game is draining all my luck away when I read posts like this.
Never any luck in other games reliant on RNG, but here, always get everything I want with supplied only. Didn't want the first stage idols, only got 3 of them. Didn't want Cocoon, didn't drop. Wanted all these 2nd stage idols and the Shinden, all dropped.
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>>123750931
I'm thinking my luck with this game ran out during the idolplane drop period, I got half of them, including the bomber, 3 of which became my main planes and are all at level 10, ever since I never got the planes or emblems I wanted unless they show up in the ticket shop
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>>123751192
*eve since then
>>
Level 10 Nosferatu, finally. Now to look for some other project.
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>>123754610
Why not level 20?
>>
>>123754642
Because even level 10 was bit of a slog
>>
<<Arise>>
>>
>>123750571
What MR are you? At decent MR, pipeline challenge rooms can easily get A-S rank if everybody is flying not all attackers.
>>
>>123754610
>Butterfly Master re-run with Carmilla
>>
>>123754610
standard nosferatu?
>>
>>123733507
By now, we'd only need people to run tests. I've tried but had no luck with any of the machines around here. However it takes a lot of time to set everything up and you'll end up wasting to much time watching virtual games with a large chance of everything being useless in the end.

As far as I know, we're in a really unique position. Even teams going on auto-pilot, managerless, have people running tests and submitting exports. We're the opposite, with live managing but no way to test anything. Every game will be a Russian roulette for us because the tactics will come from observation and study, not testing. And personally, that's the way I think the cup should be. If a board/general has people willing to test, good for them, but this becomes an unspoken rule - testing can't be prohibited, but everyone will need it, so teams with less testers will be at disadvantage. Having everything to rely on management skill would make the cups in general way more fun.

Anyway, if anyone really, really wants to help. that's about it, but it's mostly for people with a lot of free time and I really can't ask for such commitment from anyone when I'm not able to do it myself. But support is always welcome, and I can guarantee I'll do my best.
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>>123764558
What does running tests entail?

I might be able to help in that regard, depending on the specifics.
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>>123765084
implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015/Installation

That's about it. You'd need the game settings file from VGL but other than that it's just setting the game up and running AI matches against our rivals in manager mode, changing sliders/player instructions/formation and seeing what works against them.

The problem with this is that the other teams will do the same. That means we need to counter their counter-tactics and... well, pic related happens. And it's also a time-consuming task as already mentioned - I CAN run tests but the game runs in slow motion for me, would take an eternity to be viable and the laptop would probably explode from overheating.

Other than that, any help is welcome, that's for sure, but don't sweat it
>>
Finally got Nagase.
Seems decent as a mudrole platform.
So, Nagase or Cocoon?
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>>123765676
Well I'm not nearly NEET enough to sit around and simulate 24/7, but it seems like 1 or 2 games a night after work would not be far fetched.

I shouldn't have any problem running the game, I have processor cycles to spare, and I could probably stream the testing so you could watch it in near real time.

I'll see about getting it set up.
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> tfw you unlock your first level 10 aircraft
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>>123768067
>only 1
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Who is interested in me hosting/streaming supplied in about 45 minutes?
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>>123773341
kek
sack Nemo Belka dindu nuffin.
>>
Did they made the grind easier these past months? Anything interesting that happened?
Is that AC7 """"rumor"""" true?
>>
>>123773259
Meeeee
>>
>>123773764
No, no, no word
>>
>>123774210
Are they at least giving more credits?
>>
>>123774307
In hard missions.

There's a chance for a 7.5x credit bonus after a mission. If you get lucky, you can stack that with the 6x fuel forced sortie, a 1.5x+ credit room bonus and a contract, you can make 1.5-2 million on a raid.
>>
http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/11/29/rumor-ace-combat-7-might-be-announced-with-a-trailer-at-playstation-experience/

FUCKING HYPEEEEEEEEEEED
>>
>20th anniversary
>the game turns into microtransaction shit
Why are you autistics still playing this
>>
>>123774307
No extra credits outside occasional limited time things, but they did lower the upgrade costs on low/mid tier planes. Not really a huge deal since high tier planes are still probably better, but it still helps if you want to level a lower cost one. You can get a Phantom to level 10 for less than a million credits now.
>>
>>123776250
>PS4 exclusive

i'm ok with this
>>
>>123776250
It's the same news we heard from the dataminers a while back. Don't put too much into it
>>
>>123776426
Game play is superb and you don't need to spend more than the cost of a normal game to have a good time. You can easily get away with just paying two dorrah for an extra four hangar slots and even skipping the campaign altogether.
>>
Someone's taken the A-6E to 20. Japanese nickname is クールハンド, literally cool hand.
>>
>>123776843
How do they do it? They always manage to max new planes less than a month after being released. Where do NEETs find this kind of money?
>>
>>123776641
think about it this way anon, this is a second source saying it.
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>>123777380
It's the same original source, though, "dataminers". I want to believe, though.
>>
>>123777508
Previous source was Chinese anon. I too want to believe though.
>>
>>123776186
>>123776427
Thanks, I'd need that to upgrade my R-101 further ;_;
>>
>>123773259
>Thunderceptor in charge of being on time
>>
We are live, same place as we always are.

http://www.hitbox.tv/valetni
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>>123773341
To be fair, it's just PES AI being retarded. The GK was supposed to throw a low ball for the defender but instead it fell and the defender had to approach as the "sequence" had been already triggered. Happens sometimes.
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>>123779657
So we got PES'd
Rigging confirmed
>>
>>123776250
>Chinese Overlords might hae been right after all
>Which also means Adler.

Thinking about AC7 also made me think I will eventually miss the pain Infinity inflected all of us, fucking stockholm syndrome.
>>
>>123762307
Yeah. Wasn't fond of Strigon paint. Also, was bit cheaper.
>>
>>123776250
If this really happens, my continuous slaving away in Infinity will feel like it had purpose.

We'll see.
>>
>>123776250
I'll believe it when I see it on the shelves.
>>
>>123776250
Well there is a new idolmaster game coming to PS4, so they have to have something to collab that version with.
>>
I'll soon host a room to hunt for raids, feel fre to join.
For the chat we are on Val's stream's chat.
>>
>>123789265
Ridaz has been streaming it with translations. Not sure if he was scrolling manually or not though.
>>
ded
>>
>>123777179
x6 forced sorties are a hell of a drug.
>>
>>123777179
They had to increase the money cap twice some time ago because good goys kept reaching the max.
>>
I just got my Su-35 to level 2. I think it should be viable now to start grinding some slots. Until I get more slots, would max speed M + lightweight pitch be better or lightweight speed + M pitch?

I'm thinking it's better to prioritize speed. Doesn't seem like pitch M offers much of a significant benefit over lightweight pitch.
>>
>>123798847
Yeah, just roll with that. Worry about further optimization later when you have more levels and part slots.
>>
>>123776250
I wonder if they will just continue where the ACI campaign story left as a standalone single player game for the 7's storyline. I mean, they had so much build up for the story in ACI and just kinda left it hanging.

But nevertheless, really do how the rumor is true.
>>
>>123800582
I mean, the ACI story was like a weird greatest hits of ps2 era. I'd rather have something fresh and new.
>>
>>123800582
It's not gonna happen. I have a feeling that any actual mentions of AC7 as datamined are just scraps from ACI development. Maybe ACI was supposed to be AC7 but they decided to not dump resources into the project and instead rush out a quick cash grab as both an apology to fans and as a safe way to make up for their losses.

Also with ACI's introduction of relentless grinding to get what you want, I can't imagine them reverting back to a system where it doesn't take ages and/or countless shekels to get new planes.
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It's coming
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>>123804245
what, where you play as Yellow 13 or something?
You'd eventually have to die to Mobius 1 after fighting one losing battle after another
That goes against the AC tradition of single-handedly winning wars against all odds
>>
>>123804856
>Despair is the main feeling of the game
I love it, best idea. Have the player be a generic pilot too, that has to somehow get away from the wave of destruction that is mobius
>>
>>123805358
>ace combat: get in the fucking robot edition
that would be the most jarring thing imaginable
>>
>>123805358
And the ending reveals you are Jean-Louis, so you were doomed to die anyway
>>
Well congrats /aceg/ you managed to finish another thread.
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>>123806984
100% me just talking to myself.

Also regarding AC7's theoretical story, it sucks that Slash is dead. I wish they would kill Nagase instead but they wouldn't ever kill their token female. I'm still pissed that they killed Chopper as well.
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>>123806984
New thread where?
>>
Does 16:9 mode even change anything in AC5? Everything still looks stretched out when playing on a widescreen TV.
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>>123807865
I'm sure someone will make it eventually. I'm currently testing a plane that I pushed to 15. If nobody does then we are free from this twisted general.
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>>123807681
>ace combat
>ever breaking from tradition
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<<NEW THREAD>>

>>123808616

>>123808616

>>123808616
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>>123776250
>ace combat 7 is released
>Infinity's server shuts down
what will happen next?
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