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>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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1st for nothing
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>>123416195
Can't open shop for gears onii-chan
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What tier are you in, anon?

Slut tier: Sorcerer, Archer, Quarrel Shooter, Oracle, Peltasta, Highlander, Scout, Necromancer.

Not a virgin tier: Rogue, Bokor, Sapper, Barbarian, Rodelero, Fletcher, Squire, Linker.

Pure tier: Falconer, Swordsman, Dievdirbys, Sadhu, Wugushi, Monk, Priest, Krivis, Cleric, Psychokino.

Cutie tier: Druid, Chronomancer, Fencer, Hoplite, Pyromancer, Cryomancer, Hunter, Ranger, Paladin, Doppelsoeldner, Corsair, Schwarzer Reiter, Pardoner, Thaumaturge, Elementalist, Alchemist, Wizard.
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>>123416438
>quarrel shooter
>wearing non-slut shorts
>slut

Your whole list has lost credibility
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>>123416438
>Quarrel Shooter
Slut tier but the lowest kind, the $5 kind.
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>>123416438

>No Cataphract
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>>123416438
But Bokors get fucked by the devs constantly.
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>>123416359
That is good to know after trying for a few minutes.
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>>123416586
someone actually goes for that classes?
don't play with me now anon
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So how low will you actually go storywise/questwise, To get Exp cards?
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>>123416748

I do
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>>123416764
How low wouldn't I go for exp, senpai
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Any cute anon has a spare key? :3
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>>123416764
I would go full Devourlord mode. I'd murder literally everyone on the planet if I'm promised an EXP card for doing it.
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How does that even work for archer classes since they all take archer-slut tier for their base
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>>123416586
>>123416748

Sorry, forgot to include it. You are safe, it is in the cutie tier.
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>>123416359
>>123416735
Romance happened in the end so it's all good. Thanks anon.
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>Valius' Eternal Resting Place puzzle

So much better than RNG gather shit quests
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>its bearkaras
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>botstance actually increases damage done by traps
This game never ceases to amaze me, for the better or for the worse
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>>123411930
gear struggling anon here, i wish I got hoplit instead of Highlander, 1h spears are like 1.5mil max and have tons of choices.
also karacha dagger recipe is 1.4mil on gabija, kill me pls
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>>123416921
Sure, just give me your name, email address home address, home telephone number, cell phone number, and social security number, and I'll hook you up.
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Memecrafted items can't be linked in the chat
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yo when do i use my exp cards if i'm probably not gonna make it to 165?
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Spare keys for sale. Lamia. 500k. (Or arde dagger)
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why does sadhu's oob break damage numbers and other particles
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>>123417289
whenever you want, 165 isnt hard to hit though
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>>123416127
SORCERERS ARE WHORES
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>>123416586
Doesn't caraphract wear full scale armour?

That's pure tier.
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>>123417214
I can give you only a temporary e-mail adress, is that good enough?
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>>123417186

You don't use a 170 2h sword, you stay with Nulis.
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>>123417186
>gera spear is the only decent spear in 170
>tons of choices
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>>123417458
well if there's an exp wall before 165 i'd like to use it then. i'll probably not be able to make it to 165 but the end of the beta
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>>123417530
No.
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>>123416438
>Cryomancer

They really are cute.
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>do a solo party quest, the one where you have to find an NPC
>Mission: Defend for 12 minutes
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>I'm level 154
>go to shaton farm(lvl 152) to do some quests
>npc told me to fuck off
Am I missing something? I should be able to do the quests there by now, according to tosbase
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>>123416447
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the stamina crystals have something to do with influencing and corrupting the normal wildlife? I have a bit of a theory on this shit.
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>>123418310
Well, looking at the quest descriptions, a ton need you to do the Tyranny of the Supervisor quest first, and that requires you to complete some delivery quest that occurs elsewhere.

Did you do/try all that?
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>>123418415
Lamia said the demons did it. But who knows
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I wish there are subtle differences on costumes when you hit C2/C3s
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>>123416438
>Slut tier: Sorcerer,
>Not a virgin tier: Linker.
>Cutie tier: Pyromancer, Wizard.

Am I a cute slut? Or is it the clothes I'm wearing right now? Because I'm wearing my pyro clothes
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>>123418695
>Tyranny of the Supervisor
correct me if I'm worng, but the only requirements for the quests are:
>be lvl 142
>talk to the guy
I'm talking to that faggot right now and he keeps telling me "fuck off, this is private land"
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>>123416438

Squires deserve to be called sluts, they polish people's spears for money.
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>>123418415
>>123418740
"Trust no one, not even yourself"
- Hauberk, 2015
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>>123418965
I can't take it seriously when they sharpen bows on a grinding wheel for increased damage.
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>>123418931

It is about the costumes.
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No dagger today, just cards and talt.
Where can I grind for dollar bills around my level? I've been just dumping everything into attributes and what not willy nilly because beta.
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>>123418216
do you offer erp?
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>>123418740
My thought was that at this point it's not only also affected the wildlife, but the people living in the world as well making them more callous and having little to no morals, or just making them be assholes.
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what the fuck why is upgrading a level 1 bow so fucking expensive. is it not bad enough that i lose potential, i need to lose an upgrade level too?!

fuck, being archer will truly be suffering on live. forced to upgrade lower level weapons because same level weapons are even more expensive and at least +10 is required for removing the dmg reduction
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>>123418953
>>123418695
Nevermind, I actually never found druid elle on greene manor, thanks
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>>123418953
tosbase says this is required.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/70004/
Did you do that?
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>>123419312
Vikaras cores go for 10-12k each on market.
You could farm those.
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>>123419446
Well alright, where do I find those?
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>>123419612
From Vikarases
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>>123419612
Vikaras in mausoleum.
Check your market if it's really worth it though.
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>>123419349
level 1 weapon upgrade costs fucking nothing

how poor are you
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How do I unfuck this quest?
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>Get to Nuoridin Falls
>As a lv158 wizard

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>123419713
mouse mode it up
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>>123419612
Digging through the trash hole that's called Royal Mausoleum
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>>123419713

Abandon it, then use the quest item on your inventory to summon the NPC and take it again.
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>Be Bokor
>Get swamped in mobs
>Break free
>Start up zombie train while I make a run for it
>Immediately, some fag hits me from a mile away
>9 seconds to try again

It's okay, imc, I didn't wanna survive, anyway.

I will clog every service npc with zombies, you lazy fucks.
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>waiting for cerb to spawn
>heard the zone crashed earlier so i don't think the time is right
>zone crashes 1 minute before timer
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>>123419653
>>123419698
Oh, well I might as well farm something I can get a good amount of experience from. Thanks though.
Maybe I'll just quest until I see something drop a valuable recipe, then start swelling a bunch of them.

>>123419724
What anime?
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are there any webms or videos of Paladins being competent with their mind controlled minions?

like actually grinding for more than a few seconds and shit.
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>>123419724
[WENDIGO NOISES]
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There is a way to crash channels isn't there?

This is why Cerberus and Mineloader are so fucking rare to spot. Channel crashes either right before they spawn or sometime earlier to fuck with timers.
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Is C1 Dievdirbys useful for anything?
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>>123420006
hackadoll
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>>123419724
Namu temple ruins is fucking amazing for mages on the other hand
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>>123418740
>mfw the story is about the goddesses being the bad guys
The story makes a lot of sense if this is the case.
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>>123420098
Thanks
Is it cute?
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>>123416438

hunter, hoplite, druid and elementalist should have a tier of their own as the cutest class of each tree.
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>>123419713
Spam click it. It worked for me.
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>>123419612
>>123419446
also the Varr skins sell for like 40-50k each since they're
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toppest lmao you can't enter the demon prison in mouse mode
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Holy shit the 190 dungeon is amazing as Rogue.
>one shot mobs with backstab
>nothing aggros so I can always get behind them

lvl 200 here I come.
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>>123420065
Bokor glitch crashes channels, it's pretty fucking flashy tho
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>>123420065
Which is dumb in itself. This isn't like RO. You're not competing with everyone else trying to do max damage and get MvP. Everyone gets a cube.
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>>123420448
>nothing aggros
getting ahead of yourself there m8
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>>123420208
You could say that.
But it's actually a short, and it's a comedy.

Well, just give it a try
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>>123419087
You never sharpened a bow, before flinging the thing to an enemy?
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>>123420448
what are your str and dex and shit?
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>>123420016
I heard that skill was broken or something
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>>123420554
Will do
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>>123420465
Which glitch is this? So I can be on the lookout for the faggot on Zem that is manipulating cerberus and mineloader.

EVERY fucking time I get a timer for them the channel crashes right before they spawn or some other stupid shit.

Their drops are so goddamn inflated because of this.
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>>123419712
but it fucking keeps failing right after +5, what should've been a cheap upgrade is turning into a huge investment

fuck this game.
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>>123419830
Thanks anon! This method worked for me
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/lv-200-pyro-ele-necro-feedback/121599
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>>123420571
202 crit rate is with swift step up
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>>123417152
does that mean I can bot stance after laying a broom and get FREE(free) damage at no cost?
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>>123420630
The glitch lets you summon infinite zombies, literally infinite so you can go all out and summon so many you crash the channel, which is why I said it's flashy and easy to spot.
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So what does potential do? Is it just how many upgrades you can put on a weapon?
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>Have 4 treasure chest keys
>Haven't seen a treasure chest in days
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>>123420938
Hmm. This could be one of the ways. But I think there has to be another way.

At first I didn't think too much about it but after a month of channel crashing at mineloader and cerberus its beyond a coincidence now

Cerb channel literally crashed 1 minute before it was suppose to spawn right now on Zem.
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>>123420828
Time for Archer2->Sapper3->Archer3
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Did the server go down or something?

There are no people on 90 dungeon. Fucking strange.
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>>123420828
Yes, botstance actually increases your physical damage by 131 at lvl 1+4 each level it seems. I guess this shit could work with every sapper skill not named conceal and claymore.

Broom is kinda obvious, but if you're trying to kill single targets, I guess you could use kneel's auto attack and lure the target to a shooter/stockades/punji/boss to its own trap with collar (or even kneel as the red orb is about to hit something). It's kinda risky because botstance is vulnerable as fuck, but may pay off for multi hit shit, try it out.
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>>123420448
Only the bottom path has no aggro, good luck with the top and middle.
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>>123421443
Are you looking to run or rush it?
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>>123420553
>>123421489
Welp, might level before I leave the bottom anyway.

Is the boss soloable?
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Do you want me to tell her anything for you, anon? I know you miss her.
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>>123416438
Cutie reporting in.
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>>123421640
you can if you have enough potions and know how to dodge their shit.
they don't have too much hp, but they hit like a truck and summon hordes of mobs.
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>>123421750
More like waifu material
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>>123421446
>>123420828
>kneeling shot scales with your own dex
Ignore what I just said, it might be something very nice indeed
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So there's kissing in this game.

But how do you hug?
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>>123420448
>>123420764
would a full CON rogue work? I know the damage would be much less significant, but would it still be somewhat viable? maybe with some accuracy gear and crit rate gems or whatever.
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>>123420016
Most of the time my controlled minions never decide to move from where I converted them. Sometimes they'll hit things for 1. Sometimes they'll just straight up disappear.
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>>123422003
I guess, sounds dumb though.
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>>123421925
there's no kissing, it's just a bow to demonstrate gratitude.
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>>123422003
Why would you want to go full CON anyway? The only time you get shit on is in dungeons and overly tuned mobs like Wendigo Searchers and Lizard Magicians.
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>>123422003
this nigga is most likely using lvl 5 crit gems, I guess given the boosts and what not dex isn't that relevant to them
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>>123422194

That is what you keep telling yourself.
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>>123422203
probably trying to get in on the mage pvp meta
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>>123422003
Why would you need accuracy? you have feint
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Do I start saving cards at level 6 or 7 cards?
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>>123420148
Demons don't seem like good guys either.
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>>123422194
Mouth to mouth gratitude.
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>>123422367
7
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>>123422367
5 if you don't want to grind
6 if you want to grind a bit
7 if you want to grind forever
none if you don't want to hit rank6
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>>123421750

10/10 would take on a date.
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>>123422504
To late for 5, 6 it is.
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Does surespell not work? I just got interrupted like 5 times testing it while using psychic pressure.

I heard that reflect shield and safety zone and shit don't stop interruptions now either. Is the game just fucking broken for casters right now?
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>>123422256
>>123422449
as magical as this game is, I still find it hard to kiss with your mouth closed.
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>>123422367

You only need to save level 7 and 8.
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>>123422440
Maybe its one of those gods try to save themselves demons just wanna throw out the oppressors humans are the gods foot soldiers so demons have no choice but to kill them type of story
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>>123421925
what i really want to do is hold hands
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which bracelet turns into a meme bracelet when awakened?
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>>123416438
>Sadhu
>Pure tier
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>>123422494
>>123422504
>>123422729
I don't know who to believe
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Can this shit be played with mouse only?
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what do you save cards for after reaching 175?
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>>123418740
dat nipple
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Do you get a quest that leads you to entrance to kateen forest? I vaguely remember receiving one, but I'm not sure as to when
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>>123422801

You save 7 and 8 so you can use them at level 166~167 (after grinding prison) to pretty much hit 200 without grinding anymore.
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>>123422827
If you have one of those gamerzz 9999 buttons mouse, sure.
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>>123422717
>I still find it hard to kiss with your mouth closed.
Holy shit man, and all this time I thought you were just vehemently against kissposting, but you're really incapable of comprehending a kiss that isn't a tongue raping!

They're just cute kisses, anon!
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>>123421570

Run it. Also I'm in Laima.
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>>123422793
Pretty sure the spirit isn't solid and can only hurt mobs with his magical beam, so unless you're a masochist that likes being magically scorched it's not gonna be very useful for that

But man just IMAGINE if it was solid
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>spending two hours trying to figure out a name for my hunters squig

seventh sanctum isnt helping. This post isnt helping either becuase im certainly not going to name it something you guys suggest.

this is suffering
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How good is Thaumaturge?

Those buffs look extremely tasty. Though the other skills are kinda weird.
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>>123423228
buttnugget
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>>123423231
BIG HANDS
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>>123423231
x2 exp only gives the thaum exp.
Literally sabotaging your party and inflating the enemy's HP so you alone can get more exp.
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>>123423228
Have you considered actually naming it Squig?
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I got to party with a Cryo today. Its was pretty cool
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>>123423228
Name it Name
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>like the idea of forced specialization to be effective otherwise get fucked
>only classes that have this are shitty Archer ones
>playing Wizard
>everything you need is already at first circle so inbred retards can reach max level no problem by picking a different class each rank
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>>123422690
Anybody?
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>>123423412
Yes but then i figured someone else would surely have done that first and it would be awkward to run into them
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>>123423569
>playing Wizard
>everything you need is already at first circle
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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I'm level 129
Anyone want to do missions with me in Gabija?
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>>123423412
Your problem is solved. The answer was staring you at the face waiting to rape you.
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>>123423231
I like it a lot. The attributes for swell hand can more than double how much it gives, though each one takes 20+ minutes to learn.
Swell body unfortunately can't be used on bosses, and I don't think shrink can either. Swell body is great though, the bonus experience is pretty great and if an enemy would drop something, it instead drops two.

Can't say I've tried anything else, but I definitely don't regret it.
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how should I be levelling now if I'm gonna be a Rogue? All STR?
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>>123422942
Is it from the mage tower?
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>>123423640
how does that work?
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>>123423493
I hope they gave you the cold shoulder.
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>>123423775
Nah, she actually asked to be in my party. The ice wall was nice
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>>123423569
>You shouldn't pick what looks fun/good because it doesn't give you a higher circle

Enjoy your shit build and no fun one spell
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>>123423629
>Squigwerd
>Squigly
Just use Squig as a base
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>>123423629
I have seen no squigs, but the worst you're looking at is that you both recognize each other as warhammer fans.
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>>123423824
A failure to the class.
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>>123423636
Explain all the cockmunchers like Tsuyucchi and other hundred niggers that got to Rank 6 with hideous builds like Wiz Cryo Linker Sorc Alchemist
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>>123420764
>not full strength
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>>123423636
Linker, senpai, linker.
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>>123423916
You can get to Rank 6 with retard builds, but it doesn't mean that Wizard is designed for that. Outside of like Linker and two others, most Wizard classes require 2/3 circles before they actually do their job properly.
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>>123423231
Buffs are good (Didn't go Thauma 3 but swell brain sounds decent enough, plus you get more out of the other buffs and longer duration on right arm seems good).
Reversi is clearly mostly a pvp skill (but depending of the mob it can have some uses, the fire pillar in mage tower 5 for example).
Swell body is good for drop/money/exp. Drop are doubled so if the mob dropped some cute har or a good item you'll get two for the price of one. An attribute can add up decent damage reduction.
Shrink body can reduce damage up to 75% and add 140 damage if you have swell left arm active (i need to test this more actually, i think it's influenced by crits and those % attributes, also not sure if it adds damage to ticks like enchant fire or sacramento, another thing i need to test is if that damage is also added to allies but i kinda doubt it).

Really good class imo, and really good outfit.
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>>123423916
because you fell for the need to grind meme
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>>123423231

thauma has the strongest buffs this games has to offer
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>>123419051
Does anyone have the screen of when he says that?
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What the hell?

Where did the people go?
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>>123424260

Someone is looking for you.
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>>123424247

>Thauma buff
>Corsair buff
>Blessing

Literally a wet dream.
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>>123416438

Thanks!
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>>123424018
Situational. Linkers are useless in places where there aren't small packs of tanky mobs.
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>>123424260
Laima dead
Zemyna dead
Gabija and Saule alive and well
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>>123424142
Worst of all I'm sure these builds will still be viable in PvP because god forbid this game has any trace of intelligent design
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Holy shit, the exp curve, exp card calculations are making me orgasm on how beautiful it is
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I have 132 lvl 7 cards, did I miss any?
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>>123424583
Linkers are only good when there's more than one enemy.
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>go sadhu
>never use oob
>only zaibas and posession
lol
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>>123424861
149 is the max
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>>123424861
There's 149 total level 7 cards.
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>>123424861
Its 148
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>>123424876
>be a linker in demon prison
>joint penalty 5 mobs out of 50 that have no hp to begin with
>all 50 get AoE'd down
>i-i'm helping
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>>123424890
OOB is more for certain types of bosses or areas with no aggro. I really wish you could still hit with your soul while doing possession though
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TO HELL WITH ORANGE LIZARDMEN
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>>123425041
linkers are a meme
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>>123425041
or you could just link shit that wasn't aggroed yet so it dies without even getting aggroed and save someone some pots if you hangman harugals.
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so did they ever fix the market?
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>>123423916
yo, no bully
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so I slaughtered a bunch of animals using oblique shot and got to level 15 in like 5 minutes and now I have to do that quest to advance classes but I cant fucking beat this thing. the area i was at in quests was like 2 maps away from this shit. i feel like itd be a waste if I kept doing quests while I cant gain class exp
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>>123424403

yeah man, thauma alone gave me nearly 500 matk and she was only thauma 2. thauma 3 with the big head buff and 15 right 10 left + lots of attribs must be THE shit
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Okay, so I went archer3->scout->rogue
How the fuck do I grind at demon prison?
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>>123425441
demon prison 1 is easy, just oblique shot everything
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>>123425441
By praying to god a party picks you up and doesn't realize you're dead weight.
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>>123425441
You don't. Only good archer classes made for grinding are wugushi and sapper
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>>123425334
Don't forget that Thauma swell body actually increases the magic damage done to the enemy by up to 60%
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>>123416438
Shame theres not enough higher level Fletcher bros
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>>123425441
This is what you get for falling for the Archer C3 meme in a game about grinding millions of mobs. Muh 1600% single target skill!
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>>123425320
please respond
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>>123425441
>He fell for the Archer 3 -> Scout build
Should have taken Sapper/Ranger anon.
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Save for rank 5 and rush lv.1->4 or use to jump from 14->15 on rank 4 and get there earlier?
Rank 4 as a Priest C2, don't know what pick on 5.
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>>123425441
Go to Dina Bee Farm, equip a Bow, put a weight on your attack key
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>>123424630

The hell happened. 2 Days ago this map was 3 dots.
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>>123425320
Youre doing the quarrel shooter quest huh
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around what level is circle 6
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>>123423916

>hideous

you know how this game works?

taking your example:
cryo linker sustains himself pretty well (linker never falls off, ice pike multihits and freezes, also icewall is top 10 at scaling dmg) and also is a beast in partys, the +dmg u get from your skills is almost negligible later in comparison to what u get from int and memegear. what matters is the amount of mult hit magic shit u are dropping and, if u are a wiz, how many linked mobs are eating those AoEs 'weak' spells, plus sorcerer is so retarded thanks to temple shooter than one can simple link and shoot everything with that ugly bastard and do well from 127 to 200 with him alone

so you don't need to care about anything more and u can pick alchemist only to cook some meth and make money with overpriced awakened memegear
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>>123425908
oh I didn't even know they were different. Yeah I am.
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>>123425870
Everybody else is leveling up
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how's druid
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>>123425952
get a level 15 bow, only hit necroverter after he attacks. easypesy
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I can't find this, does anyone know where it is?
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I got a skull amulet, is this worth using or should I just sell it?
How much does this usually go for?
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>>123426120
Use your keyitem
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>>123425441
I just have one question for you: the scout attribute for+ 50% damage for the next attack only works for the first hit, right?
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>>123426113
Shapeshifting is a meme but has some utility

AOE damage is ok, doesn't hit as hard as possession or Zaibas 10 but the size is decent

AOE invincibility is a great skill at least for Sadhu's like me
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Is there a way to remove the zoom limit? I'd love to zoom out just a tiny bit further, kinda like how your camera is when you are fighting field bosses
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>>123425568
This is wrong, it does 60% of your matk as damage when using the skill.
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>>123426120
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>>123426341
i've gone cleric>krivis2>sadhu2 so druid is probably the best path for me
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>>123426216
What key item?
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>>123424247
>thauma has the strongest buffs this games has to offer up to rank 6*
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>>123423640
Still here. Anyone within range want to party?
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>>123425441
>are harugal dead?
If yes, oblique everything. If not, kill them then oblique everything.
>>123425937
>rank 6
~177 (?)
>>123425612
What build did you go?
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>>123426505
Probably the one that says it summons the Bishop, just a guess.
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>>123426505
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>>123425937
Around 176-178. Usually you'll get 7-8 class levels into it when you hit 200.
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>>123426560
Archer > Ranger 3 > Fletcher 2
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>>123426615
It doesn't do anything
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Does anyone remember where the target happened to be for this quest? I've looked all over the area and I didn't find anything.
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>it adds damage to ticks like enchant fire or sacramento
It does.
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Super secret Rogue tactics do not steal.
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>>123426669
>>123426386
>>>/reddit/
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Anybody got some wendigo tooth and a grand spontoon recipe?
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>>123426991
The quest is broken. It needs to be repaired.
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So would I be able to play this on Intel Core M-5Y10 Processor? Zenbook UX305 more like.
I read the faq, but I am completely ignorant on how this M-tier processor are supposed to work.
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>>123427047
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>mfw detonating other sappers broom traps
>they clearly didn't take a point in detonate so they can't do the same to me.
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>>123427460
>Uses reaction images that no one but redditors uses nowadays
>tells someone to stop trying to fit in

The irony
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>>123427036
kek
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ded thread

ded game
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>>123426918
are you at the sanctuary
>>123426723
C1 here, would crossfire be better if it was an actual cross?
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>>123427580
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>>123427036
Rogues look super fun
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>>123426360
Add this line to your hotkey xml file:

<HotKey ID="CustomZoom" Name="Custom Zoom" DownScp="camera.CustomZoom(400,0,0)" UpScp="None" Key="F10" UseShift="NO" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="YES" OnEdit="NO" />

Zoom out with Ctrl + F10

Change 400 to whatever distance you want.
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>>123427531
>be youngling Sapper
>no idea what detonate does
>do 50 dungeon with some lads
>priest puts up safety zone when mobs close in
>stake stockade the mobs
>"I can blow up my stockade!" I say to myself
>detonate
>blows up safety zone and all the heals on the ground
>priest gets demolished
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>>123427748
Not that guy but it would be better if it hit more than fucking once.
Also if it didn't have such a tiny ass hitbox.
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>>123427780
Epic, epic for the win
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>>123427748
Crossfire would be better if it didnt hit like a sack of wet noodles and had a bigger aoe. I've never been so disappointed with a skill before
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did the math and I'll only have to suck demon cock for another 3 hours before I can finally leave
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>>123427952
Would pressing it again reset the zoom?
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>>123425441
Kill bees instead
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Name that 'one' Quarrel shooter C3 on your server /tosg/
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How do I take advantage of Ice Wall for damage if I'm a cryollinker? I thought it was just a wall to throw down for freezes.
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>>123427952
Sweet, thanks
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>>123428082
No, but changing the zoom with the mousewheel will reset it to the default limit.
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>>123428067
>schedule has been work ---> demon cock ---> work ---> demon cock for a week
>finally out
Why did I ever stop being a NEET I could have been done in one day.
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>>123427952
is 400 the default zoom?
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Is this the build I should be following as a Sorc/Necro? The cat takes too long to buff but seems decent if you're playing solo. I'm seriously considering leaving him at 1 and maximizing summoning.
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>>123428132
If you attack the Ice Wall it sends shards flying in that direction, mate.
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>>123428471
you don't max out Servant, you just take him to 3 to get the attribute and reset and leave him at 2 so you can have the SP buff
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>>123428132
Link wall segments, whack them.
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So what's the point of completing rogue capture cast time?
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>>123427952
This does nothing but break the help window
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>>123427952
This doesn't work for me for some reason, you sure it's the right line?
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>>123428435
No, 400 is like on the screenshot.
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>>123425996

meme dagger though
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>>123428706
Thanks
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When does pumping Str start having Diminishing returns?
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>>123427961
>detonate doesn't have an attribute that turns on friendly fire
I sure would love to null those restrain traps but instead I somehow blow up our heals
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>>123428471
>dirty pole
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>>123427952
what other cool binds do you have
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>>123428701
Yes, I'm using it right now. It's left Ctrl + F10. Right Ctrl doesn't work. And edit the right xml file (_mousemode.xml if in mouse mode, etc).
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>not servicing the market manager for a "discount"
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>>123428556
>>123428636
How do I whack them with a rod?
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>>123429004
You stop using a fucking shield
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>>123429004
get an arde dagger :^)
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I feel like this is valuable
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Ok, so I got to the Mage Tower as a Bokor.
First floor wasn't so bad. The drakes are kinda bullshit, seemingly timing their long range attacks to hit you just as you restart the train. Still, nothing I couldn't handle.
Second floor I handled like a champ. Absolutely no problems despite the bullshit but Bokors are currently enduring.
Then I got to the third floor.

...

...

This is not okay. They are going to leave it like this for at least a week. They may let it stay until the end of the icbt. THIS IS NOT OKAY.

I'd joke that the enemies threw a wrench in your ability to even function just by looking at you, but it's not a joke. THEY ACTUALLY DO THAT. EXACTLY THAT. Why the fuck do these devs hate bokors so much? Were their parents murdered by bokors on the way home from a movie? Did they vow on those corpses to make all bokors pay from that day forward? Holy shit, this situation just makes me want to die.

What's worse is that there are fags entertaining the idea that this change should be permanent and should be this way for the actual release. No. Fuck you.
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>>123429330
It's not :)
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>>123429330
100% drop
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>>123429330
Doesn't everybody get one of those
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>>123429330
:^)
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>>123429330
It's jot
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>>123429379
>>123429429
>>123429446
>>123429469
Back to competing for spawns then, I guess.
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>>123422173
>>123422203
>>123422309
yes this

thinking about hunter and rogue, since hunter damage is reliant on the pet's stats not yours, and rogue's damage is so absurd, that maybe a even a low damage build could be viable while having stupid high defenses, ad QS for a ranged stun, and you're an unkillable walking wall of annoyance that can still kill people, as long as they're not CON build as well....

But I don't think I could reach R6 starting now, so oh wel... wondering if anyone could try it on their rogues and see if their damage isn't that gimped with a CON build.
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>>123427970
>>123428008
I guess magic arrow is the only thing to look forward too. I wish they'd add some property to the arrows
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>>123428914
>party.ReqPartyMake(123)
for when parties are broken
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>>123428571
I'm blind, I thought that was a C2 attribute, thanks.
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What the fuck is supposed to apply bleed for Rogue? All these attributes are mentioning they do extra damage to bleeding targets, but there isn't a skill that applies bleed.
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>>123429648
I hope you have money for attributes and a good bow, because its underwhelming
>>
how do i make cool text or images
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Should I invest hard on the level 120 weapon or save for 170?
I understand that there isn't many 170 recipes/weapons around and I would probably need to make my own, but I just want to confirm because I'm poor.
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>>123429861
Just realized something
That is not how reflections work IMC
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>>123429375
Every class has the same problem atm, it's just affecting Bokors the most because Bwa Kayiman is kind of their only ability.
You can cope with it, though. Safety Zone on top of your Zombify circle when you need more zombies. When you run around mobbing, enemies will (usually) aggro on your zombies first and use their spells and ranged attacks on them, meaning they won't have them to hit you with.
That being said, DEX is even more important now. I would recommend full DEX at this point, with just a few points of SPR if you really hate chugging pots.
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>>123430000
Since you got quads I will tell you one.

/y <imgsrc="use_donut.png">
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>>123430103
As in there are no reflections?
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>>123429375
I haven't been to 3F, what are you referring to?
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This quest is fucking bugged, I already killed all the monsters.
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>>123429375
>...

What the fuck is this shit, take your garbage to reddit.
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>>123430341
I had to do this one like, 3 or 4 times. Which sucks because the enemies in that area are cancer.
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>>123430341
mouse mode and click just under it
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>>123430341
remake your character
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>>123430341
Keep clicking until it validates.
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>>123430192
There are. Look closely
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>>123429817
For use with other classes. Similar to peltastas and rodeleros having attributes to deal extra damage to frozen enemies.
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>>123430478
I think you're just mistaking the game's shitty shadows for reflections
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>>123429861
Do they take damage if they leave the fire? What's the damage based off of anyways, your attack?
>>
>90% of enemies are monster plants
>still make elemental grid based on fire x ice
>lots of huge beasts covered in leaves that are somehow "Ice Element" just because they needed it to be weak to fire

good game
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>>123430694
>the game is finished and will stay as it is
Good post
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>>123429861
>you've exceed your maximum carrying weight
Fletcherinanutshell
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Where do I grind in demon prison if I'm level 148?

Trying to follow the main quest and getting wrecked by floor 2 mobs.
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>>123430818
>it's just a betaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>123430818
>believing the gooks will change anything other than tweaking exp rates, adding extra maps for the extra levels and fixing one or two bugs

Good naivety
>>
>>123430176
From /release/?
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Is there supposed to be someone here?
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>>123430930
what mate?
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>>123430382
It's called an ellipses. It represents the intentional omission of words, sentences, or entire blocks of text. Believe it or not, some website you hate doesn't hold some exclusive rights to its use.
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>>123430640
No they do not, the aoe is very small and it sucks against groups of mobs. As for the damage im not too sure
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how do i bagel
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>>123431064
>>123430176
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>>123429695
wow that's cool
thank you kind anon
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>he's not going to be a musketeer and have a full party of musketeers at all times on release
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>>123431425
>centurion + full musketeer party
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>>123430010
Anyone?
>>
Which gem do I take as a c1 rogue?

Crit attack or Crit Rating?
>>
>>123431040
How about you go fuck off back to >>>/reddit/
>>
Can anybody on lamia please post your block list?
>>
I have so much fucking silver and I do not know where it came from.

Am I a sleepwalking slut or something?
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>>123431778
Literally cancer.
>>
Wtf my user.txt settings suddenly changed language to korean.
>>
>dungeons from lvl 175 and up are mostly done by clique groups
>it's hard to find party with no friends

I should've made on of those solo classes
>>
>>123431813
Figure it out and tell me, I'm shit poor
>>
>>123431880
Literally and has been figuratively used for centuries.
>>
>>123431813
Mobs in Demon Prison seem to drop a healthy amount of silver, and you get a glowy silver mob fairly often. That's not even including the 40 Skirmisher Pants recipes you'll get every hour.
>>
>>123431828
... yeah!
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>you will never be held down, milked and almost mindbroken by all the Kupols as thanks for fighting off the demons in the prison
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Why does it not work?
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>>123431652
if you're a mage, an awakened elder rod is pretty much the best rod and it's level 120, same with trinity sword.
You will get money from demon prison grind so i'd say go ahead.
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>>123430010
+5 a a suitable 120 weapon and call it a day
>>123431042
I hope c3 is better if it's available
>>
i have a feeling this game is going to end up like archeage where the beta and alphas were bliss but the cash shop on release fucked everything
>>
how do i give my hoplite more aoe?
should i take that finestra splash attribute?
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>>123432412
I really hope not, I'm enjoying the game a bunch and looking forward to release. It's definitely a possibility though.
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Is this normal?
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>>123432486
yes
jump and press z and occasionally your swashbuckling key
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>>123432573
Happened to me too. I don't think it's intended though.
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>>123432573
yes, that thing has no hp
>>
>>123432573
I don't think it's supposed to happen but yeah I killed it in one hit too
>>
>>123432573
yes that cat is weak as fuck
>>
>>123432486

Anon you shouldn't even be asking that
>>
Elder rod is what I'll be using forever, right?
>>
>>123431728
Anyone please?
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Are INT hoplites a thing?

crusader class for swordsman path?
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>>123432650
>I killed it in one hit too
The kupole slut killed it so I can't take the loot ;_;
>>
Is there a way to skip the story? I want to make a new character but I just want to grind, and the class advancements will be cock blocked by the story progression stuff.
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>>123431172
lewd
>>
>REFLECT SHIELD FUCKED UP

WHY IMC? WHY? NOW I CAN'T EVEN USE MY PSYCHIC PRESSURE. HELL, I CAN'T EVEN CHARGE A FULL SNOWBALL.
>>
Why is all my gear missing potential despite not upgrading it?
>>
>>123432797
hahaha, so sorry

I can't recall what he dropped but it wasn't anything important anyway.
>>
>>123432724
i thought the evasion decrease is a lot more for some reason
>>
>>123432781

thauma+lifelink = thousands of dmg
and ofc, i hope they make some magic knight class
>>
>>123432921
Equips lose potential from trading, selling on market, adding gem slots, and awakening.
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>>123432921
trades
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>>123432921
>socketing
>trading
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>>123432295
Pic or +5 for 800k?
I'm on Saule, things here are getting expensive as more and more people are passing 85+.
>>
How does gem roasting work? SHould I be maxing my gems first before roasting them?
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>>123433061
>>123433072
>>123433091
So gear I buy on the auction or anyone else will always have less potential? That's really interesting but I don't know if I like it.
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>>123429695
How do I make use of this? Can I please get the complete string with a exmaple bind?
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>>123432573
>rare boss and not another variation of achat/bearkaras etc
>wow shit is getting real
>it's weak as fuck
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>>123432149
I need your assistance /tosg/, so far I've had no trouble using this until now.
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>We decreased the weight of talt!
>ability that every other boss spams now crashes the game

>We fixed the crash guys!
>number of key skills broken, one class in particular is utterly shit on

IMC is cute.
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>>123432962
You can turn it off for bosses if care that much, but +3 AoE ratio is too good to pass up for killing mobs.

>>123433175
Gem roasting is a permanent buff on the gem. You can level or delevel the gems and the buff stays on. Level 5 gem roasting full removes the negative stats up to level 5 gems.
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>>123433227
IMC not finishing their maps
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it seems like everytime I hit rank 5 I lose complete motivation to make it to rank 6, mostly because of the demon dick, mostly because even if I reach rank 6, there's nothing much to do besides quest since no rank 7.

Time to finish my Sapper I guess!
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So how shit is this?
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>>123433207
<HotKey ID="MakeParty" Name="Make Party" DownScp="party.ReqPartyMake(123)" UpScp="None" Key="F11" UseShift="YES" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="YES" />

For left Shift+F11
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>>123433196
Yes, so sometimes it is better to buy the recipes for the equips so you can craft them with full potential. Buying already enhanced gear is often cheaper than upgrading it yourself though, but you have less extra enhances/trades to work with.
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>>123433483
pretty good for its level
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>>123433483
Its great until you get a Grand Spontoon
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>>123430194
I'm pretty sure Flask Mages are a new type of monster introduced on that floor. They shoot these annoying little laser eye beams at a whim, and they're fucking undodgeable. And as of now, they completely ruin a Bokor's shit. There's also Pyrans, a flying monster that just flap at you and suddenly you're on fire. I think those stop a Bokor in its tracks as well. Also, Armas refuses to sit still and let you wail on them, so the alternative of parking yourself in a safety zone would be annoying as fuck.

Having zombie train at that point in the game means a player went straight for it, and the only offensive option they'd have with it broken would be a Krivis's Zaibas. If they went Krivis. If they went priest or cleric 2, they literally have nothing.
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>>123433628
So if a piece of equipment has no potential it's untradeable? I guess I kind of like that. Once more methods of enhancement and what not come out it'll be a lot of choices.
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>This server is closed
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>>123433515
Thank you!
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Still buying wendigo tooth and a grand spontoon recipe
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>>123433771
Untradable at 0 potential, breaks at -1 potential. Materials and consumables are considered 1 potential items, and become untradable after 1 trade. Can't buy them off the market to resell them for profit.
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>>123434136
I have 3 wendingo teeth
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>>123434136
you can get grand spontoon recipe from crystal mine chest
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>>123431489
>centurion+musketeer party
>centurion somehow offhands a pistol and wears a cool hat.

Unf.
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Arde Daggers are selling for like 420k on the Gabija market if anyone wants to buy one
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Demographic of /tosg/: http://strawpoll.me/6104132

Seeing as how /vg/ is one of the most casual boards here, I would not be surprised if there's many underaged/normalfags/redditors here. However there's nothing to be ashamed of if you fit one of those criteria, the elitism culture of 4chan has died down recently, it's pretty much Reddit v2 now.

Please partake in this poll so we have a better understanding of each other.
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>>123434260
Sweet. You just saved me 80k anon.

>>123434193
Is it on the market
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>>123434485
Why is pretty much everything cheaper on Gabija compared to Zemyna
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>>123434543
I don't want to understand you, fuck face, hence, anonymous
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>>123434543
Bullshit. Elitism is the lifeblood of 4chan and only assblasted newfags or normalfags would argue that this is a bad thing.
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>>123434704
more people= more supply= lower prices

also why are there like no good xbow at level 120? I don't even see a need to buy a new crossbow to replace my +8 Arbalest if everything else is just as shit.
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>>123434146
How does it reach -1?
Not sure how I feel about no jewing, but I was never good at it myself so I guess it's good for me. So this system is entirely focused on promoting you to go out and get things yourself? Not bad I guess.
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They knew one Grita just wasn't enough.
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>>123434814
Just overupgrade a Regina. Only Bullet Shooter is decent enough with a high base damage
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>>123434896
Waifus for all.
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>>123434720
Don't be so tsun anon-san!
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Question, as an ausfag, what server will they expect us to go on, Indonesia?
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>>123416438
i want to be a slut tier pyromancer
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>>123434879
From failing an upgrade when you have 0 potential left. Destroys the equip.
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>>123435014
... Probably never
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>>123433483
Most bosses are devil type, so it's actually pretty damn good.
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I haven't been reading the story at all because I figured I'd wait for the full release and a better translation. Should I start if I make a new character?
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Do you think these retards browse here?
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>>123435303
yes
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>>123435303
hydra is the biggest retard lamia has, but at least he knows it
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>>123435493
>lamia
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>>123435195
I would wait and hope for better translations. It really can be hard to follow right now.
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>>123435195
the story is ass

>something something revelator save us from this shitty monsters
>yadda yadda xp cards
>boss fight
>revelator please find my lost shit
>....Maizo Diana or some shit
>revelator please purify or kill magic circles (whatever the fuck)
>boss fight
>something something this one goddess
>purify this shit
>boss fight
>revelator please
>boss fight
>boss fight
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>>123435303
I asked before, but can anyone from Lamia please share your block list?
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>>123435303
Yes, three people in that do.
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>he doesn't play on Gabija

Do people on other servers even know what kissing is?
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>>123435303
What a bunch of goofsters xD
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>>123435014
Pinoy server
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>>123435665
I was afking while training attributes and when I came back someone was afk in front of me in kiss stance. I wonder if it was one of you.
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Why the Fuck am I getting disconnected often but the shout is still going.
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>>123435746
Did you... you know...
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>>123435481
>>123435650

I figured they would stay in /b/ or /tv/ but you never know
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>>123435885
Yes
The whole time I was training attributes
For two hours
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>>123435782
Do you have an arm band equipped?
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>>123432829
No they won't
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I really really like this game
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My goddessfu skin is so smooth
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>>123435889
You'd wish that, but that's not the case. I truly look forward to whenever we get OBT just so we see even more memers.

>>123436136
Her eyes are brighter than I expected them to be
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>>123436136
I bet the goddess boss fights are going to be neat>>123436212
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>>123436024
No
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>>123435195
The capital got buttfucked by a big tree and everyone fled.
The goddesses they actually physically see on a daily basis went missing, too.
Also, practically every other city and town got physically seperated from each other and the forests are growing out of control.
Turns out it's a demon invasion. Nobody expects trees.
Fortunately, one goddess could see the future and made a bunch of stone slabs that tell obi-wan kenobi that he's her only hope. Then she put them in the most ridiculous places to find.
But rather than wait for someone to find them, she also made it so a shit-ton of people would have a dream instructing them to set out and find this shit. Unfortunately, a gorillian BRs had the dream, too.
And you, yes, YOU are totally the "real" chosen one who has to do all this shit.
So find those slabs and goddesses! And make all these fakers who had the same dream carry you to victory!

The end.
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>>123436489
Also along the way you decide to poison people and help obviously shady people out.
Because that's what CHOSEN ONES do.
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>>123436695
But... but I needed more information!
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>>123436489
You forgot the part where we can't gather herbs for shit, people can't stop dying and more often than not we carry those BRs to victory
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>>123436489
>Unfortunately, a gorillian BRs had the dream, too.
Its a good strategy if they start killing prospective Revelators
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Thanks to the anon who motivated me to do Gyttis. I got 3 level!
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Think we'll get an Open Beta in January?
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Why is everybody here symphatizing with Hauberk. He's a DEMON Lord. Don't be swayed by silly propaganda. The goddesses would make your waifu real
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>>123436957
January several years from now hopefully.
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I have 68 lvl 8 cards, how many did I miss?
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>>123436987
which demon lord is the one that got the goddess knocked up?
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>>123436987
I couldn't give a fuck, let me go on an adventure with Gesti instead

>>123437285
Archmage Fire Lord
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>Goddesses go around barefoot and what they wear barely qualifies as clothing
>They aren't nearly powerful enough to warrant that level of narcissism.

Color me surprised.
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>>123435746
i saw one like that beside the monk master earlier
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This is hell
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>>123437527
It's okay, you got this
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>>123437527
It's a warm up for the CC chaining in Main Chamber
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>>123437527
?
But floor 2 is fun.
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>>123437527
I hope you found those little hidden quest NPCs.
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>>123437328
>Gesti
Helga > Gesti
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>>123437527
Why do you mob? just kill things when you meet them
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>>123437717
Nah
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>>123430874
Floor 2 you lil sissybitch
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>>123423231
pretty tasty
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>>123437648
That side quest chain was really cool when you learned that it was Hauberk who you saved.
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>>123437631
>>123437728
I'm too spoiled gathering mobs with linker, swelling them, then nuking them down for double rewards. I can't live without recipes and materials exploding from mobs. I won't.

>>123437648
On the first floor or second? I've just started the second.
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Why is no one doing the lvl 160 dungeon?
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>>123437906
Why do you have max transpose? What's the point of swapping int for con on a class based around int?
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>>123438065

No exp
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>Goddesses are okay with tricking, deceiving, sacrificing, and poisoning people for their own deeds
why are we siding with them again?
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>>123438213
the pussy game ridiculous
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>>123438153
emergency meme tank
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>>123438030
>swelling them, then nuking them down for double rewards.
That really makes me regret going Psyco for my third class.
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>>123437717
best semen demon is the one you fought at Apsimesti Crossroads.
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>>123438153
Emergency defense, also to regen hp faster, but it doesn't need to be maxed, I just that realized that I never use shrink body.
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>>123438269
b-but I'm a girl ingame
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>I'll defeat the monsters, so lighten up dude.
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>>123438469
True. She needs a portait.
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>>123438484
I'm sure they could whip a big goddess dick if need be.
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>>123436489
>save world or destroy world
>like all revelators before you, you are all tied to the same string of fate
>destroy
>You were the chosen one!.flv
>the Tree giveth and the Tree taketh away
>jk, Laima and the goddesses are lizardmans
>reptilians behind everything
>WAKE UP SHEEPS

ever so slightly better end
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Do I really need all lvl 7 and 8 cards to avoid the 165-175 grind?
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>>123438342
I almost took Kyno myself, but I'm really enjoying Thaum. How's Kyno?
Swell isn't as good as it sounds, at least right now. Since you need to take Linker and then Thaum you don't always have enough damage to actually kill things because it doubles their health. If you can kill it it's great though.

>>123438474
That's a good idea. Maybe I'll go 3 shrink 2 transpose.
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>>123425441
>>123425640
>Muh 1600% single target skill!
That's the problem with Archer3, ofcourse Multishot 15 is great but only in situation like boss killing but in everyday grind, its shit!
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>>123438213
Look, if you're a model of physical perfection flaunting yourself in barely-there clothing, people will fucking do as you say. Lady Revelators will go gay for you on command.

Just accept it.
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so what level is the deadzone and what level should i try to get to with my cards
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>>123438760
I've been wondering something about this since I'm grinding Demon Prison. Do you save up all your cards that you can get up to level 165 and then pop them to get to 175? Wouldn't it be easier just pop most of your cards so you could do the 166-174 quests too for even more cards? or are you supposed to do that too?
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>>123438213
Don't say poisoning people is unfair!
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>>123438982
i want her hat
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I want to be a dumb shota revelator and get raped by a goddess.
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>>123439184
so Kid Icarus?
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>stopped playing beta because real life stuff
>it goes on until fucking early December
So how far are most of you guys now?
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>>123432898
Surespell doesn't work either. This leads me to believe it's a bug and not a nerf.
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>>123439134
Me too, I feel cheated that we get an abbreviated version of it.
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Ugh, I hate inventory management. Now I gotta check each and everyone to see if its rare.
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Can you use scouts camouflage with skills, or only auto attack?
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>>123439347
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/bugged-or-what-channeled-spells/121344/11
>IMC
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>>123439539
They really are their best to fix them but seems to not easy.
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>>123439468
Same, I'm a fucking hoarder, and I hate myself for it.

>Literally sitting on 6 Vubbe Fighter Bloods
>Will likely never see those other recipes that use it
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>>123438792
>How's Kyno?
Telekinesis is pretty crap. But I do love getting a bunch of mobs following me, then turning around and psyching them. I basically treat it like a kill most everything ice pike.
My only problems are it's only wonderful if there is a high density of agro mobs, that don't have ranged, and the high mp drain.
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>>123439539
>We're our best to fix it but seems to not easy
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>>123434543
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>>123439539
Translation: We could fix it in about 20 minutes with a maintenance, but that would require effort on our part.
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>>123439854
That just gets more horrifying every time I see it.
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Which map made you rage the most?
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>>123439539
>patch a bug out of the game
>reintroduce it in a later patch
>we dont know how to fix it!
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>tfw i spit in usagi tan's donation box every time i finish the 90 dungeon
>>
>Use Zalciai on mobs
>Happen to level up when I kill them
>Some barbsair gets really angry at me for ksing his 'blue mobs'
my fucking sides
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>>123439539
>We're our best to fix it but seems to not easy.
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>>123438213
because they're cute
and they have kupoles
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>Just logged in and hit level 90
I'm expecting parties to be bugged again.
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>>123439539
Considering they probably don't know which line of code is causing it and games have a lot of lines, Good Luck.
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>>123440517
use the anon trick
>>123429695
>>123433515

didn't try it myself though
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>>123438982
This is the kind of person that will kidnap your family, demand your surrender and will still call it fair.
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>>123438982
I think we need to demote wugushi to horrible slut tier >>123416438
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>>123440337
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>>123440635
holy shit this guy is an actual 1337 h4x0r
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>>123440337
How do you pronounce Kupoles?
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How many level 8 cards do I need to have saved up?
I have 149 level 7s.
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>>123438816
Looks have nothing to do with it, you're just desperate for your next EXP card fix.
And at the end of the game they toss the you aside like the junkie you are, and suddenly you realize why the mob density in Demon Prison is so high.
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>>123441023
All.
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>>123436489
>>123438694
>demons are invading
>through "cracks"
>big ass tree
>forest spreads everywhere
>end boss will be the golden fruit of knowledge
>whoever doesnt cut their hand trying to pick it wins
>mfw all the rigorous flower picking was training all along
>may the strongest flower picker survive
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>didn't follow the barb meme for swordsman and got to 140 anyway
>made a priest c3 and stopped just before rank 5
>made a linker and just stopped around 70
>have no desire to play them anymore
Should I just use my 100+ Hoglan on a Hunter now?

Can we hope for more paths to open when they bring out ranks 7+? I almost feel like I'd enjoy making a priest>diev3>oracle over the stuff available.
Sorc or Necro might be neat but don't they both turn to AFKing while your pets maul stuff?
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>>123441023

Like 150. I was 168 when I popped cards so I might had access to more areas.
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>>123438816
Why is right arm so long?
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>>123441023
this was all i have at 166, and i reached rank 6 just fine with just a little bit of further questing.
>>
>>123423710
>>123423710
>>123423710
p-pls respond
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>>123441450

Buy 2 status reset scrolls and try them both, see what you like more.
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>>123441450
it doesnt fucking matter

buy status reset scrolls
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>>123438982
Its okay. Poison is a woman's weapon
>>
should i give a fuck about 100% exploration if i dont care about my rank and just want to level
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>>123441238
If you're a masochist, go for it
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>>123434543

voting in a memepoll
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>>123441664
top 50 get the game for free when it's released
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>>123437527
The bokorfag halfway up the page got through just fine. I'm sure you can handle it.
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>>123441664
you unlock rank 7 if you 100% all maps
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>>123438816
Goddess feets
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>still trying to name my squig
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>>123441094
Not if I eat the Goddesses at the end.

They never plan for that.
>>
>>123441518
try WHAT both?

>>123441541
but I thought Rogue was objectively better with a ton of STR?
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>>123441971
call him Steak
>>
>>123441971
Widdlydoo
>>
>>123441971
Thiago
>>
>>123441971
Grita
>>
>>123441971
Pecopeco
>>
>>123442285
>>123442342
>>123442539
>>123442565
>>123442626
i appreciate your efforts, but id never be able to use a name someone else gave me anyway.

im simply reporting my suffering
>>
For anyone curious about the naming of Finestra, see http://www.hroarr.com/manuals/fiore/omsg_lanza.pdf

>the crossed hand position of the Posta Di Finestra (Guard of the Window hands crossed)
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>>123442740
Pokoteng
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>>123441238
>priest 3
I partied with a priest3 monk on the lvl 130 dungeon last night, stone skin is fucking awesome. It made my mage get 560 block.
>>
>>123442740
Pelé
>>
>>123442740

Slurm
>>
whats the next level i have to be to receive the next main story quest? im 96 right now, just finished all of masoleum
>>
>>123442740
AyCaramba
>>
>>123441971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEZeIlubD2c
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>>123443264
go do some dungeon runs kids
>>
>>123443264
103
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is this quest bugged in uskis arable land? keyboard mode doesn't work either
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>>123442740
Just name him Bob
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>>123443115
I was 100% SPR so I had something like 800+ at level 1 of the skill and close to like 1300 at 5. I didn't really feel it was worth the 3 circles to get though.
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>>123441971
Lou Sputtole
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>>123443403
Horrible advice.
The only people that seem to want to bother right now all want to do boss rush runs.
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>finally kissed someone special
>don't want to kiss anyone else
>this was a week ago
>start to go through pixelkissing withdrawal
>>
>questing at demon prison 3f
>meet 5 white mobs
>they explode nothing but silver
I don't know if I'm lucky or unlucky
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I may have done too many dungeon runs.
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>>123444646
Yes you fucking idiot, give me those cards now
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>>123434543
>http://strawpoll.me/6104132

Wow, the results are more reassuring than I thought. Maybe the one who needs to change is myself
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>>123444646
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When I hit sorcerer can I finally start doing damage?
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>>123445109
only if you have a memeshooter card
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SOUL. CRUSHING. EXPERIENCE.

Will I ever make it?
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>>123445129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE
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Reminder that if you are a class that shows your feet, you are a slut and I bet you kiss boys.
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>tried to go back to my Sapper after playing Sadhu for a week
>that DPS drop
yeah this isn't working out, I guess I'll go suck some demon dick then
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>>123445129
Its just a couple of hours
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>>123445261
Yeah but it feels like years.
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>>123444646
vyne knows what's up
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>>123444703
If only they were tradable
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Would you prefer stats to be changed so that they do more/less than a direct increase? How would you change it?
As it is now 1 defense literally blocks one damage, and one magic damage literally does 1 more damage with magic.
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>>123445682
I kinda like this system but it needs some tweaks I guess. Systems that increase your damage exponentially every level are kind of horrible in my opinion, makes the power creep real, like in WoW clones in which a lvl 25 sword can do 10 times more damage than a lvl 20 one, so you're always grinding for the sake of getting the new, better gear, making the other 200 pieces of equipment below your level completely useless. Here in TOS there's really not much of a diference between a lvl 120 weapon and a lvl 170
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>>123445682
Seperate dodge from dex
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>>123446012
What if we put dodge on int?
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>>123446076
dodge wizard, I'm fine with that.
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>>123445948
Right, yeah, and I like that this makes some level 120 weapons viable well past level 170, like that bow which gives +2 to all Hunter skills (assuming you're a Hunter obviously). It helps the itemization be more than just "have the latest tier of guild for your level".
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Reminder to not be oppressed by the anti-weeb groups!
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Just got scout c3
that scan is a meme skill, right?
I can't even tell how big the vision is
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>that wendigo searcher damage

fuck THAT
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>>123446315
>scout c3
the ABSOLUTE MADMAN!
tell us how good oblique v2 is
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>>123446381
Hope you're ready for the Lizardman Magicians in the next zone
And the quest that spawns 6 of them next to you right away
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>>123445682
The game works on a 'low number' progression, so stats can grow linearly and still work. Bonus stats every 5th~2nd stat allocated help the small variations with higher numbers.The actual problem we have here is that we don't have reliable ways to mitigate certain types of damage at all. Two pieces of gear give good physical defense as well as the ever-needed CON, but magical defense is hard to stack as acessories give low defenses and investing in SPR is bad for most classes, specially tanky ones. The gains with SPR aren't comparable to the gains with CON, specially because you can just pot when you're out of mana, but being low on HP is a risk.

I suggest a stat rework, so we have to think more about stat allocation instead of "full DEX with Weapon X" or "full INT for wizards"
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>>123446230
People too stupid not to innately understand this are not going to be convinced by that image, provided they are even capable of reading it in the first place.
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>>123446597
>The actual problem we have here is that we don't have reliable ways to mitigate certain types of damage at all.

I wish they would implement a real dodge or some kind of active defense.
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>>123446597
>full INT for Wizards

Maybe for Cleric INT types but a full INT wizard will get one shotted ever 5 seconds
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>>123446697
We can block, but magic bypasses it for no reason. Tanking in this game is a joke.
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>>123445682
Stats are fine. It's the skills that need to make use of them better. Take reflect wall. If they doubled or tripled the amount you could reflect per spr, it'd be a pretty good skill.

I think things like block and defense should be carefully managed, lest it become some sort of stat war between players and enemies. In this game, shields and block skills and their attributes should be what protects you. Just have skills that quintuple your defense stat temporarily instead of permanently having thousands of defense.
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>>123446658
This is correct. Ignoring them is the best and only way.
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>>123446315
Can you use skills such as oblique in camouflage?
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>>123416438
Pardoners in Cutie tier? They are literally temple jew sluts selling their "services" for donations but then take the money for themselves. Dirty gold-digging jew-bitches that steal the donations from the temple they work for. Absolute filth.
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Should I still go for a Vubbe Fighter gloves as a hop? I already got that Finestra Splash attrib
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>>123446697
>The actual problem we have here is that we don't have reliable ways to mitigate certain types of damage at all.
armor switch, REALLY people don't know this?
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>>123447515
I'm not a min maxer faggot, that shit is annoying
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>>123447575
>"oh shit they're magic type better get the magic defence armor out with the right elemental resist acessories"
>"oh shit they're range better get the shield out"
>"oh shit they're X damage type better get X armor type out"
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>>123446456
And the one after 20 Hallowventer Shamans fuck this gay quest.
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>>123417084
>>123417502
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>>123447879
>carry 5 or more armor+jewel sets around
>no carry weight for pots
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>>123438213
E X P C A R D S
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>>123447191
No auto attacks only in the barrel, the only exception is perspective distort
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>>123447879
do people actually fucking do this?
>all that work to reduce 100 more damage from a 1k hit
wow great!!!!!!! now you live 2 hits longer!
just wear whatever gives the most offense, jesus christ
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>>123446230
anime is fine
being gay is not
this is a family-friendly christian imageboard
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>>123448270
Scout looks hella fun. Was it difficult to solo or did you have an easy time?
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>>123447879
just give me armor that's good all round but not optimal for anything

that way I can be lazy and you can still minmax :^)
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>>123438792
Does Swelling monsters only doubles their MAX HP or their CURRENT HP?
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>>123446315
Hello fellow scout buddy.
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>>123436489
>And you, yes, YOU are totally the "real" chosen

The real question is:
AM I REALLY THOUGH

I MEAN, HAUBERK SAID HIMSELF
"You are being used, just like me, Revelator!"

And I really REALLY trust demonbro's words
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>>123437906
Isn't the maximum attack/mATK for lvl5 left arm 68?
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>>123448215
>>123448323
>>123448323
>People wanna tank but don't wanna put in work

>>123448215
>>123448323
No, you don't need a whole armor set, test it out your self. I'm not gonna spoonfeed you
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>>123447191
the only skill that can be used during camouflage is perspective distortion. I believe its area increases with level, but the tooltip mentions nothing

oblique v2 is cool, i am doing pretty good.
the sp cost is a bit rough since i am used to oblique 1 for eternity

I really wish that scan is a buff instead of a shitty circle that grant vision when you step on it
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>>123448498
>I'm not gonna spoonfeed you.
code for "i haven't done this and don't know what i'm talking about"
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>>123448428
but anon. he also said: trust nobody
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>>123448335
Not him but my scout experience was pretty rough solo, I mostly got carried by a sorc friend.
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>>123448564
Sure, if that's what makes you sleep at night.
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>>123448379
any reason not to max camouflage?
I think the increased movement speed and block count is really good.
It has been my "oh shit wendigo searcher" button
If it allows usage of all scout skills inside the barrel it would make the life of scout so much better
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>>123448335
scout actually does literally nothing and your only reward for reaching c3 (at rank 6, which is when all of the content left in the game is a joke) is a far superior version of oblique with a huge SP cost
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>all the goddesses are rescued or finally rejoin with each other
>this world has gone to shit so we're going to start it all over and destroy everything
>the world tree is actually something that after so long would destroy all life in the world just for the goddesses to absorb
>the goddesses become the big bad guys and you have to fight alongside with the demons and the one goddess that got knocked up by the demons on secret occasions

Are we just going to go and fight god because we don't like god? We sum kinda SMT protag?
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>>123448335
struggled a bit with wendigo searcher and a lot with the pumpleflap, but other than that it would pretty simple.
bleeding? barrel
poisoned? barrel
wendigo searcher? barrel

other than the few places where IMC wants you to die, scout has been a pretty smooth ride
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>>123448579
You can trust the goddesses anon
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>>123448864
I hope.
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>>123448864
sounds good desu senpai
beats the shit out of any other mmo's story
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>>123448864
we'll fight anything as long there's exp card rewards
#junkielife
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>>123448881
i just dont know anymore anon. its all really confusing. can i even trust you , anon ?
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>>123448904
Mabinogi already did this, the goddess turned out to be an evil controlling bitch.
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>>123448864
Just give me bonus stats and I'm in
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>>123448864
REMOVE DEMON SYMPATHIZERS
Hauberk was WRONG
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>>123448748
No I don't have any reason to not max camouflage but I don't have any reason to level any skills other then split shot, flare shot and cloak for 100% up-time either.

Haven't needed anything else.
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>>123448864
>Good story in an MMO
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>>123449239
Fuck off demonbro did NOTHING wrong. Bitch goddess forced you to betray him.
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>>123449363
You didn't HAVE to do shit, but your stupid ass can't resist the sweet allure of those EXP cards.
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>>123449310
What is Mabinogi
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>>123449087
I was thinking about that, but the goddesses in Mabinogi, all the gods that show up really, are low tier gods/goddesses. (also Morrigan is a goddess of vengeance and crows and stuff, not exactly a "good" goddess to begin with). None of the high tier ones have done anything bad, or shown up for that matter.

The goddesses in ToS are high level ones, that would be like Lymilark level in Mabinogi. It'd be a bit more extreme for them to be evil. If it's anything, it's a plot by that oracle goddess to do something, or else the oracle goddess doesn't even exist and is just a trick in herself.

The low level bitch goddess, like Saule, probably aren't up to anything.

Also the "demons" in Mabinogi were still against the humans, even if some of the goddesses were too, for their own reasons. In fact, Mabi is just about gods being assholes to each other and humans.
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>>123449523
>Ruairi keeps being a fucking retard over and over
>Good writing

Besides that I like it.
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>>123449052
You can trust us anon
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>>123449363
>>123449426
>betray kinda cool demonbro OR more hours of demon cock in prison
hard choice
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>>123448864
>yfw this really happens
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>>123448350
im not then, but in my experience as a thaum; first it doubles their max hitpoints, then almost instantly after, it adds that amount of hitpoints to them

so if a mob had 100 hitpoints, and you hit it down to 10/100, then cast swell on it, it would for a very brief moment be 10/200, and then 110/200

you can time it and cast just as they are about to die to get the double drop benifit with out having to do the extra damage, but you have to do it just right, too soon and they get their doubled hitpoints, too late and you cast it after they die.
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>>123448379
Does Scan reveal hidden chests like I read it did? That's what shovels are for right.
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>>123449846
BUT DUDE ! THE JEWS ALSO SAID THAT ! FUCK THIS CRAZY WORLD !!!!1
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>>123450015
is it true the bonus exp only applys to the caster and not the whole party?
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>>123450050

in its current form it is pretty fucking hard to find anything
it has a 40s cooldown
the range of vision is unknown
you have to stand on the circle to get the buff that allows you to find hidden object
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What substats would you remove/add?
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>>123448864
>destroy the evil demon boss
>reunite the goddesses
>now that the danger is gone, they suddenly remember how much they hate each other
>you have to side with a goddess
>fight against the other goddesses and their supporters
>the world is ravaged by the war of the goddesses
>demon comes back to put the bitches back in their place
>goddesses need the revelator's help again
>and you help them because you're a little exp card bitch
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>>123450313
THE FUCK IS AOE DEFENCE RATIO?
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>>123450313
>Remove Magic Amp...
silly and weak RNG shit
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>>123450352
>there's a world pvp system based around which goddess you side with
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>>123450403
Magic Amplification is just another way of saying Magic Crit Damage.
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>>123450313
aoe attack and aoe defense ratio need to go
they're stupid and confusing
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>>123450452
Perfect.

I would LOVE to see this.
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>>123450352
womans in a nutshell
i'd side with whoever muh waifu Grita is with
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gained this many levels in demon dick today, gnight senpaitachi
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>>123450210
no idea
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>>123450472
>>123450403
these niggas know
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>>123450452
I'm fine with this.
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>>123416921
buy it from kinguin for 5 dollarydoos anon
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>>123448553
And the next question, how is flu flu?
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>>123450472
AOE attack radio is good. AOE defense is the one no one understands
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>>123450452
>region-based
NA vs SA vs SEA
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>>123450403
No, Magic amp is great because it's a stat you can upgrade. If you remove it, you remove it for gloves, and all gloves will do is improve accuracy. I'd probably change it to a % increase though. (133 magic amp would be between 0 - 133% extra damage, nut just 0 -133 added damage.)

>>123450472
I sort of agree. They're too confusing and need to be reworded at least.
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>>123450710
>Doesn't understand the concept of timezones.
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so are Bokors any good? I see those zombie afk grinders at Demon Prison and it looks like something I could do while cuteposting
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>>123450705
Attack Ratio - Defense = Number of targets AOE hits. Targets with a larger defense appear to have priority.
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>>123450769
well ofc. change or replace mag-amp with something useful
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>>123450403
Sure.
>>123450472
No. Maybe it'd be better if you could hit everything, but if tank has high AoE defense, you can literally stand next to him and bosses won't hit you.
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>>123450050
Like >>123450219
says its pretty hard to find anything and I haven't had any luck.

The only place I can think of to use scan to do something is those cloaked vubbes in the secret mines area lol.
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>>123423693
the double drop thing with an oracle could be OP farming.
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What does blue hair look like in this game?

>>123450905
I think if it were pure magic attack, it'd be too strong to be able to upgrade it. It'd be like having a third weapon(if a rod and subarm with damage bonuses were the first two).

You can't deny extra damage is useful. It's also like the only reason to use cloth gloves. The only way it should be replaced is if they replace it with defense. Fuck accuracy.
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>Swell Body is a debuff
Wish you could cast it on the tank. Double HP, increased damage at the cost of just movement speed, probably drops each gem twice on death
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>>123448498
I think the real problem here is that gear options don't exist. You have, what, maybe three items per slot per level bracket? And they're almost all just slight increases in the same stats, with the exceptions being either expensive as fuck (Sage Wall, etc.) or odd pieces like Vubbe Fighter's Gloves that are BiS in general.

You don't get to say "fuck Main Chamber, I'm going to buy this armor that lets me resist freeze spam" because no such gear exists.

You don't get to say "I'm going to spend a long time grinding Demon Prison, so I'll buy this gem that gives 30% mitigation against demons" because there's no such thing.

It's a railroaded game with railroaded gear to match.
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>>123450791
bokor is absolutely the BEST class for grinding demon prison and areas like it
you will walk into a room and everyone in it will leave just because your uptime and enormous area of effect is unbeatable
it takes a full party to even compete with just one bokor
harugals kind of fuck them up though, since they massacre your zombies

>>123450931
aoe defense ratio is just too weird. i would rather see it removed and a similar effect turned into a skill or attribute or something for shield classes. maybe it'd be a good way to make shields relevant
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>>123451195
While I agree the defense ratio should be also tied to block rate, I believe it's nice as it is right now.
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"I'm going to buy this armor that lets me resist freeze spam"
Ice resistance doesn't resist freeze? Poison resist resists poisoning.
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>>123451152
get an icema
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>>123451289
to >>123451152
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>>123451152
There is clearly some kind of resist stat, but it doesn't appear on gear, nor is there a stat that counters resist. It's a pity.
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>>123450313
AoE defense ratio

>>123450393
AoE defense ratio is the amount of AoE attack ratio consumed by hitting you, or rather, by you hitting your enemy since as far as I know there isn't a single item for boosting your AoE defense ratio even if it's the one thing that would make dedicated tanks worthwhile.

>>123450458
>>123450769
I don't play a mage, but wasn't it determined a long time ago that all magic amp does is reduce the chance of being resisted? It's the magic equivalent of block penetration.
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Does anybody know what the awakened stat for vubbe fighter gloves are?

And if I were to do it on my alchemist the dungeon for it would be relatively low level, yes?
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>>123451430
>I don't play a mage, but wasn't it determined a long time ago that all magic amp does is reduce the chance of being resisted? It's the magic equivalent of block penetration.
wtf no ive never heard this
you get a random number between 0 and your magic amp added to your magic attacks
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>>123451430
I don't know, without magic amp I get the same attack number every time with magic, with amp I get either that same number or whatever more magic amp provides
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>>123417301
I'm curious enough to see if you really have that key and I don't care too much for the money so give me your name and I'll let you scam me or w/e :^)
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>>123451430
I've seen items with AOE def ratio. I can't remember what it is right now, but they definitely exist. Also, there are items in the Awakening list that get it if you awaken them.
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>>123451402
>>123451356
>>123451289
I have tested stacking ice resist in preparation for the main chamber, with what little ice resist gear pieces are available, and it surprisingly reduces 200-400 damage per hit, however it does nothing against freeze
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>>123451402
>resist
Oh man, what the fuck is this shit? Seriously. Is it like a purely random chance to tell magic to fuck off? It can't be, because some things resist certain skills more than others. One of thing things in constructor chamber seems to be able to always resist telekinesis, for instance. Maybe it's related to elemental alignment.

But ghosts in general seem to be stronger against psychic things, even though it's magic.

>>123451742
>it surprisingly reduces 200-400 damage per hit
What's your ice resist value? People always say damage/defense is 1:1 but somehow I doubt it.
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>>123451742
The trouble with this is if you wear cloth on a tank, the spinning attacks fuck you right up.
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>>123442740
Cucucachoo
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Defense, crit resistance, block and elemental/magic resistance is all we need.
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>>123451797
It's not just magic. On my Highlander C3 Skull Swing doesn't stick for what feels like 40% of the hits I use it on. It turns it from a great skill to merely an average one. Same goes for bleeds as well.
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>>123451430
As far as I can tell it's like psuedo crit for magic.

It takes the base damage of a spell and gives it a damage range with magic amp being a percentage.

So say you have 100 magic amp and a spell doing 50 damage. That's going to amp it to a 100% increase of the base damage, effectively giving it double damage potentially. So anywhere between 50-100 will be the damage. I don't know how it factors in magic attack or if that's applied before or after the amp. Honestly none of this is explained anywhere and with no combat log it's all guesswork.
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>>123451797
Ghost beats Psychic in Pokemon. I also had Arse Dagger in Mage Tower and it didn't seem to be that bad even though I had massive negative fire resist.
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>>123451907
I read somewhere that magic amp adds to your max magic damage. So having +100 magic amp on a spell that does 1 damage means it's going to do from 1 to 101 damage. Not tested this myself, though.
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>>123451907
It is not a percentage otherwise it will be actually good, its just flat amount AFAIK
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>>123451797
>What's your ice resist value? People always say damage/defense is 1:1 but somehow I doubt it.
People say this and I almost, ALMOST, fell for the meme. But it's not true.
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>>123451797
>What's your ice resist value? People always say damage/defense is 1:1 but somehow I doubt it.

Who says that?

It's been proven that it does not work that way.
(I said 200-400 due to the fact that I couldn't remember the exact number but it was a flat value which I am fairly sure was 400 and something)

74 ice resist was the amount I had.
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>>123451973
>>123451989
I thought magic attack was a flat value? Are they both flat values?
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WE /toasters/ NOW
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I'll actually be sort of angry if they don't wipe the beta because I've been spending my money profligately based on the assumption that they will, so there's no reason to Jewishly hoard stuff and economize on my purchases like I usually would.
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>>123452151
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/damage-guide-the-big-formula-modifier-types-and-how-they-interact/118950

That's how it is described here.
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>>123448864
>All the Godesses want is to have full control of the world
>Demons, that share half of the world's control are obviously against it
>They start a war
>Laima is actually dead
>Her sister killed her because she was against their plans
>Her "revelations" are just ruses created by the other godesses
>So they can "guide" you (read: kill demons)
>All "Laima's revelations" had a godess' helper/follower to "help" or "guide" you
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>>123452253
T O A S T E R S.

Fuckin' gooks man.
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>>123452253
>fb*com/treeofsavior/posts/787182548074628

Goddamnit Saviors is winning. Tosters is much better.

>>123452363
>Since it's too hard for us to decide it ourselves

lol
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y/n?

Paladin's Barrier seems really op, but I wanna be an Oracle
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>>123451915
Forget defense, wouldn't your offense have been cut in half too because of fire element enemies?
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>>123452428
Oracle is worth it solely for when random BRs spam duel requests to people and you accept, instantly cast Death Sentence, and walk away / sit down / cast Safety Zone / do whatever, it doesn't really matter.
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>>123452518
I've never really Dungeon grinded in this game yet, but wouldn't being able to see and change an item drop be really really good? If not then I'd just go Paladin 3
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>>123452439
His regular weapon damage would be the same but the extra fire damage from his offhand proc would be halved so its still better than using a shield.
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>>123452586
Only for farming rare stuff off mobs with low spawn rate like battle bracelet. Not sure if using the Thaumaturge's double drop ability will make it drop 2 though.
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>>123452586
No, because you can't change boss drops (which are just cubes anyway).

You can think of Resetting like an extra 2 mob kills every 2.5 minutes, which I know sounds pretty terrible. It is, and Oracle needs to be seriously buffed. But in the specific instance where you're hunting for rare drops from mobs that take forever to find on a map, like Battle Bracelets from Galoks in Chapel 1F, that's actually a pretty considerable boost.

Also, I think taking Arcane Energy is pretty questionable, because it screws over Wizards who keep their SP pool as low as possible due to % cost spells. And max Stamina in a fight only matters to Monks as far as I'm aware.
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>>123452652
It does make it drop two. Oracles and Thaums are bros for life.
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>>123452652
>>123452745
There's also Double Pay Earn to consider, which you could theoretically combine with the Thaumaturge ability I think (maybe?). But I haven't actually tested to see if this works yet.
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>>123452319
Resist is % based

so if a fire type is damaging you 1000 say your resist % is 30 and your magic defence is 250

((1000)(.30))-250 = 450 damage

now what we don't know is if 1 resist is equal to 1%
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>>123452428

Barrier doesn't stop most large monsters from just walking through it. Bosses will just walk right through it. It also doesn't stop magic or arrows.
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>>123451973
>>123451989
This.
I was one of the testers of Magic Amp myself and it's nothing more than this.
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>>123452518
>grinding my kino
>faggot BR brigade shows up
>full fucking party
>still outfarming them
>all of them are spamming duels/trades on me
>ignore them for awhile
>eventually wait until their cleric is seperated
>accept
>pressure instagib
>continue farming
>they all group around me
>accept their barb's duel
>pressure stunlock
>cleric dumps SZ and all their shit on him
>still just stunlocked until it all runs out and I win
>peltasta is next
>walk near terrain that's close on the map but would take forever to walk back to
>teleport RNG's me there
>swap him

They gave up eventually.
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>>123452821
Er, thank you for the info? I wasn't replying regarding to resist but to magic attack and magic amp.
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>>123452821
I fucked up the calc, supossed to be .70
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>>123452863
What a fucking pointless skill then, glad I went for Sadhu/Druid instead
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>>123452253
They added in "Revelators"
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll495084x1C0746d9-20
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>>123452908
>BR duels me again
>grazes my Zaibas, clearly thinking he can survive a little touch of it without any problem, and 95% of his HP is gone
It always amazes me that people actually do this. But I guess it's not a mistake you make more than once after you see how much damage a single hit does.
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>>123453002
>Tosters winning

Keep going anons.
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>tosters
Aw shit we toasters now.
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>>123453036
How accurate is the size of the circle? Some circles are bigger than they look.
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How does Cleric's Fade work? Can you attack while in Fade?
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>>123453106
It seems pretty accurate to me. I haven't noticed it being substantially larger or smaller than it seems.
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>>123452892
>>123451989
What's not good about a flat amount? If it's 100, that's like having 100 damage from anything else. Are there gloves that have huge amounts of bonus damage on them? It might be random, but it can't be resisted either.
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>>123453116
Fade is an AOE buff. It turns you invisible. If you try to attack or use an attacking spell, it'll break but if you use a buff, it won't break. I think you can heal while still being faded.

If you're Faded, you can cast OoB without breaking Fade. You can also cast Fade during OoB but Fade won't cancel an enemy attack animation so it might still break you.
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>>123453172
I don't know, but it's a really dumb name for something that only adds to max m.atk. They should just called Max Magic Atk +10 or something.
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>>123453036
>>123452908
Open world PVP would be a fucking massacre.
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>>123453172
It's not terrible, but it's not really fitting of the term "amplification."

Also long CD hard hitting spells don't really benefit from small shit like that. It needs to be percentage based.
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>>123452908
>>123453036
Zaibas on a kino
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>>123453263
World pvp could never be a thing in this game without some serious changes that would ruin the fun of it anyway.

I do however have interest in the pvp league shit just because I think it'll be fucking hilarious.
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>Saviors is catching up
We're not even saviors, look at all the people we've harmed and murdered for the sake of a few exp cards.
>>
This is the only MMO in years that I actually have fun while playing
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>>123453332
How dumb do you have to be to not realize we're two different people. Zaibas fag I assume is the oracle I originally replied to.
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>>123453252
probably a reference to RO's amp, which boosts magic atk
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>>123453418
That's correct, I'm both Krivis C3 and Oracle C1.
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What happened to Klap? Did everybody else got dc'd?
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>>123453386
Who even wants to be called Savior, such a boring name.
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>>123453386
Like most games, We're completely amoral psychopaths that are easily suggestible and do anything for rewards. We're hardly fucking Saviors.
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>>123453386
To be fair, we murder WAY more when we don't have cards.
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>>123453386
>We're not even saviors, look at all the people we've harmed and murdered for the sake of a few exp cards.
You know that metaphor about omelets, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vtNZqzbXkk
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>>123453489
4am lag probably killed off people
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>>123453521
But you can CHOOSE not to do it.

I highly doubt you'd have second thoughts since its EXP cards.
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Why the fuck does Fedimian have music that makes it sound like China?
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>>123453654
>I highly doubt you'd have second thoughts since its EXP cards.

>Don't even need exp cards currently
>Still doing the quests
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>>123453654
There are no consequences to not doing it except freezing yourself in time as far as the story is concerned. This isn't a story game by any stretch.
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>>123453528
Only time I felt like a fucking hero was when I fought demon tits in the chapel and the demon lord in the royal mausoleum.
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>>123453661
Also why doesn't it have an Austern stature for a warp like the first town?
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>>123453661
>pots
>ugly side streets
>alleyways
>dusty
It is asian
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>>123453661
I don't know, don't have a single clue about what China sounds like.
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>>123452937

I actually like the skill, it's still great for support even if it doesn't stop everything, especially if you are at a choke point.
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Why is the Unicorn fight the most intense battle in the game?
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>>123453172
It's only "good" if you compare it with... nothing. Because that's what magic classes actually get, nothing.

It's literally just a flat amount of damage that IMC created only because they knew INT only giving Matk and wizards having nothing else would be dumb.

You could literally change some gear to "Maximum Magic Attack /\ 12" that would be the same, but just with a fancy name.

I'm not asking for a crit chance magic attack, but it's a small RNG mechanic that is hardly noticed almost all the time, almost like how people care more about crit rate rather than crit damage.
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>>123453912
That's not Ravinipede.
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>>123453727
>Don't even need exp cards currently
>Still doing the quests
Sociopath.
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>>123453935
Why do people have trouble with this guy.

>He spits poison I run to the other side of the map.
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>>123453935
Thats not here you go 20 mage mobs at once or protect the old fart from flying pumpkins.
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>>123453912
>>123453935
I think the honest-to-god most legitimately difficult fight I had in the game was my first time doing Bearkaras in Crystlal Mines, pretty much right after the beta started, because I was so inexperienced and knew nothing at all about how to play remotely well.
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you know what would be cool.

If spread across the different swordman classes, there were stance skills like Finestra, based on real fighting stances. and when active, the combat animation switches to the appropriate stance posture.

this was sort of how they did it in granado espada. it was pretty damn neat, i liked those historical sword fighting references
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>>123450452
Gabija masterrace supreme %%more like memerace%%
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>>123454196
Finestra does change your stance. Is it the only one?

Kneeling shot is a kind of stance change too, I guess.
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shouldn't you be asleep
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>>123453935
>>123454079
>>123453912
Why is Denoptic the most bullshit boss in the game?
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>>123454396
>charge at Denoptic
>he uses the exact laser move that will hit you 3 times in a row
fuggg
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>>123454396
The poison spiral is the cheapest move in the game
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>>123453934
But it is giving extra damage all the time. There are no downsides to it. It's not constant increase, but neither is the Arde dagger since there are elemental resistances. I don't see how you could scoff at a bonus you can upgrade to +15 and say "Well, I'd rather have the accuracy gloves usually give."

It's shit if it's a sub bonus on some other item, yes, but it's a main feature of some equipment. The only good argument is that it should be renamed. Like Magic Bonus Attack or something.

>>123454079
For me, it was probably Tomblord.

Unicorn wasn't "difficult", but rather it and that Wallmaster boss are one of the few things that gave me a time to kill it that wasn't strong against my magic. I don't know why most other bosses barely do anything.

I need to play a melee class before this beta is over. I can't imagine the time they have against some bosses.

>>123454396
>Cast DoT
>Denoptic turns invincible and hops around until the DoT expires
It's the most annoying boss anyway.

Do we ever get to fight Merregina again? Seemed like a good boss design. Shame it's not used more.
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>>123454735
>>123454735
new
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>>123453760
Nah, demon lord was ENTIRELY our fault. It felt like we were cleaning up our own mess while still causing alot of innocents(like the historians) harm.

Demon tits was a good antagonist and it really felt like we were against the odds, but it just threw that motif right out the window.
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>>123454058
>pumpkins

Holy shit that quest.

Fucking jesus christ I didn't even know what was happening he just died. It's like the worst parts of an escort quest amplified by infinity.
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>>123454885
>mfw he died but I somehow passed the quest anyway after a while
???
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>>123448330
>>123446230
Its very simple.

Do not reply to any gay posters, just hide them and report them.

Assume anyone replying to the gay posters in any way are in fact other gay posters just vying for attention by replying to themselves, so report them and hide them too.

Just let them rot.
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