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My adventures are bigger than yours edition

>What's new?
New map (it sucks). Store sale for good goyim. Waiting eagerly for doe cunt.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19960704/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-november-17-2015-11-17-2015

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
FAQ | Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/raynor
News, Updates, and Datamining: http://www.heroesnexus.com/

Last time on /hotsg/: >>123283663
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First for best ass
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>>123399086
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>1 game away from rank 1
>no healer on my team
x dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
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I feel obligated to buy the Second Chance bundle
Do I do it? I don't even own Rehgar.
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Anyone in US got Cho'Gall and wanna party up?

I have a teamspeak if need be. Can post my Battletag if you are too beta.
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>>123399481
you should have picked one then :DDDD
you are the only constant :DDDDDDD
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>>123399610
I was first pick and it's easier to carry shitters on sonya than it is on supports x ddddd
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>tfw you make the mistake of queuing up at the same time some third game HL faggot got carried 3 wins in a row and he ends up in your game
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>>123399717
It's weird that works for you because first picking sonya usually results in the rest of the team not picking a tank for me
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>>123398709
Muradin
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>>123400032
>tales from rank 30
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>>123399496
No. Greedy kikes packaging it with crap stuff so they can charge more for it.
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It's that time again
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>>123400435
>tfw you will never penetrate her cold cooch and warm her from inside with your warm living load
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>>123400571
>tfw you can't penetrate anything because blizzard will keep adding more clothes to her as SJWs bitch and whine about a game they never play
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>>123400764
>tfw Blizzard has been a kek company that bows down to SJWs ever since they introduced Alleria in the WC2 xpac
I don't know why you keks expect better of them
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god damn it's fucking thanksgiving break and all the shitters are online because they aren't in school this week

fuck
my
life

looks like i'm not gonna be playing any games this week until the faggots go back to school
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>>123400232
You're the one below rank 1, shitter. What I'm describing happens on rank 1.
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Is stitches worth buying? Is he fun?
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>>123402085
>is he fun
yeah, if you have a team that can follow up on hooks. If you don't, you get the talent that hooks allies and help/fuck with them.

>worth buying
he's pretty cheap I think
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>>123402085
Do you enjoy fishing?
Do you enjoy farting?
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>>123401687
>thanksgiving break
>lasting the whole week

Back when I was in school it was just thursday through the weekend.
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>get into hl game
>play like shit
>instantly start blaming my team

Fucking assholes ruined the positive vibes and made me play bad.
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>>123399261
Really, though, is there much one can do about it?
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zagara probably one of the easiest heroes to not die as...if you position like a coward. their uther died 8 times somehow

enemy talent choices are HAWHAWHAW

also is it me or does Valla have a really pisspoor scaling compared to everyone else? Like, her damage is fine but she feels like anytime anything hits you at all you die, regardless of what it is
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What's the penalty for leaving games multiple times other than leaver queue
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why is sonya so sweaty???
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>>123404947
You get put on a shit list
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>>123404947
If it's qm nothing really, just more and more leaver queue games. If it's HL you lose like 300 points per leave.
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WEW BLIZZARD WEW
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>>123401959
>rank 1 meaning anything other than # of games grinded
post hotslogs or fuck off trasher
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>nova takes triple tap

I always take stoneskin against either stealthy, you never know when it'll fuck up their calculation and leave them unable to finish the job, or worse, die
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>>123405515
>implying you didn't get matched up with a 4 man group
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>>123406105
>>>rank 1 meaning anything other than # of games grinded
>can take less than 10 games to reach rank 1
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>play Leoric
>every quickmeme game has a Cho'Gall against me
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>guy goes AFK during an objective
>lose because of it
>calls everyone noobs at the end
ebin
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To Demonic Tyrael guy from the end of last thread:

It's pretty goddamn neato, it used to be horrible, but it's awesome now. However, decide if you yourself like it and think it would be worth it. Don't let others sway you.
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>>123406209
>this somehow makes rank 1 worth more
>has yet to post hotslogs
ok kid
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>tfw Kyle from Blackthorne most likely very low on the priority list for characters in HOTS.
You let the Vikings in very early Blizzard, where is Kyle?
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>>123406650
the Lost Vikings are WoW characters ;^)
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>playing against a sgt hammer as chen
>my team consists of thrall, jaina, gazlowe and nazeebo
>none of them ever target the hammer even though we have enough burst/initiation power to kill her 3 times over
>none of them ever harass her even though we could constantly force her out of siege
I don't know what's up with these games. I suggest a strategy and all I get back is snarky "yeah uhuh sure you don't do so well either bud" even though I didn't even speak in accusatory tone.
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>>123406585
>>123406105
I think you're missing that the anon who called me a rank 30 shitter is rank 2

rank 2
in hots

he's not even rank 1 and calls other people shitters. It's not about what my skill level at rank 1 is, it's about how his skill level is too low to even be at rank 1.

Stop being such a butthurt shitter, it's probably you
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>unranked sheriff star faggot
>i was rank 1 last season

why do these faggots even try?
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>>123406994
>I don't know what's up with these games. I suggest a strategy and all I get back is snarky "yeah uhuh sure you don't do so well either bud" even though I didn't even speak in accusatory tone.
Yeah thats why i generally skip that shit and just start trash talking
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>>123407145
>last season
wait there was such a thing?
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>>123407131
Maybe because I don't have enough games played you fucking downie
You've yet to post your hotslogs
I got placed rank 6 and won twice to get rank 2 then lost once which led to my initial post
Again
rank 1 means literally fucking nothing
you could be 1800 mmr and play with one hand and be rank one
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>>123406994
it's holiday break for the kids.
This shit feels like daycare, had to tell to of my teamates to stop insulting each others mothers.

It's gonna be unplayable until 1am by then you get the people who at least try
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>>123407310
no, but i called out a shitter for getting ganked and feeding like 8 times at the beginning of the game and then i told him to stop dying

he responded "i was rank 1 last season"
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>>123406994
>even though I didn't even speak in accusatory tone.
text comes across flat as it lacks the human element of conversation. It then is read by someone else in their mental state (sad angry, distressed etc) This means you have to type out paragraphs to convey the correct emotions.

for example:
>"nice fucking work man" (you - encouraging happy)
>"come on man i'm trying ;-;" (them - sad feeding)

or maybe you don't do so well either bud :^)
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>>123407310
placement matches and rank reset happened like 6 months ago or something
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Still looking for someone to party up. I need my two Cho'Gall wins.
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>>123408043
why wouldn't you just ask in the /vg/ chat
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>>123408098
Because the thread is more fun.

Thats just an excuse, gonna join chat and ask
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>>123407769
I'm aware I don't literally use a tone in text, you dumb autist. I'm saying I formulated it in a way it was not accusatory in the slightest.
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>>123408368
hey bro where did all this anger come from?
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>>123408368
bro, you got stuff on your mind? you sound like you've got a lot of pent up anger, wanna talk about it?
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>tassadar accidentally takes wrong talents when solo support
>fall a couple levels behind because no proper healer
>tributes are 2/3 on each side
>we're 18 and they're 19, all of us are up
>they go their boss as soon as it comes back up
>crash them at boss, manage a full teamwipe and boss steal
>grab the newly spawned tribute
>smash through top fort, top keep and core in a spectacular curse-fuelled push
>get bonus points for it

Sometimes, everything is worth it.

and then I realised they had Tychus and a LiLi who kept making it piss easy for me to stun her out of her ult, and thats another factor in us winning

And yes, I felt the need to apologise to the Tass afterwards. When I'm wrong, I'll admit I'm wrong.
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>>123408558
From people who keep claiming "it's impossible to measure intentions in text" because they're actually autistic and can't infer from context and formulation how something is meant
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>>123408974
Holy shit you better be fucking rank 1 with all this blogging
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>>123407310
>>123407473
>>123407858
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19874795/placement-and-ranking-system-update-8-27-2015
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>>123409236
>CommanderInTheBronze
>rank 1

HAHAHAHAH good one m8. He's not even close.
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>>123408974
But you're almost always wrong and you deny it
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>>123409273
oh right right, totally forgot that happened
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>>123409236

hes like rank 18 or something lmao

I don't know how someone can be so fucking bad despite playing so much
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>>123407372
You don't have 20 games yet?

I was put in rank 1 after placement games.
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Memes aside, how is this game doing in general? Is it growing?
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>>123409507
it's doing alright, 2 new heroes coming in, and a new map in the rotation which ... okay? iono, i think it's shit
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>>123409507
It's doing fine. Not going anywhere any time soon. A blizz insider came in here not too long ago saying they were happy with the way the game is going population-wise.
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How do you fucks actually have fun in QM?

>Absolutely no matchmaking. 1500+ game exp players being put with or against players with less than 100 games
>Composition matching is just as fucked. Get stupid shit like Nova, Abathur, Zeratul, Murky and Valla.

Can never go back to that shit after doing HL
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>>123409563
>and a new map in the rotation which ... okay? iono, i think it's shit
better than Shrines desu
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>>123409873
I play abathur and do the mines build to ruin the fun for the enemy team
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>>123409507
It seems its growing. Blizz is ramping up the esports in 2016 so it must be growing somewhat.

>>123409563
The map really negates the whole win one fight at 20 and push to core aspect. Makes it feel very hard to actually comeback because you are at the mercy of altars spawning for the most part. I personally like the map though, but I think it does have issues.
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>>123409978
>I play abathur to ruin the fun for my team
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>>123409507
Every promotion or cross promotion thing they do bring a bunch of new players, like meme ogre
So it's doing OK
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>>123410090
If i gave a shit about my team i'd play ranked
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>>123409507
it is growing, slowly but steadily.
quality of life changes have dramatically improved playability, resulting in more people giving it a shot.
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>>123409873
I play Chen and revel in the uncoordination.
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>>123409901
agreed, at least the fucking map doesn't try to kill you

BoE - Immortals attack each other and have a retardedly obvious telegraph

BHB - the only way the cannons hit you is if you get inside the radius next to a building

Temple - laser shrines only attack buildings, and the mobs are easy to deal with

Spiders - only attack buildings and they're weak to begin with

Dragon - whatever

Cursed Hollow - your buildings stop atacking, but that's about it

Shrines - FUCK YOU I'MMA PUNCH THE SHIT OUT OF YOU AND DROP YOU DOWN TO 1/5th HP WITH NO CHANCE OF COUNTERPLAY, HAHA TRY TO MAKE A COMEBACK FUCKER
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>>123409497
placements top you out at 5
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Blackthorne when?
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>>123410384
You forgot the new map
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>>123409873
sometimes people with 1500+ games played belong with people with less than 100

Having many games played doesnt mean you are any good.
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>>123410384
>Shrines - FUCK YOU I'MMA PUNCH THE SHIT OUT OF YOU AND DROP YOU DOWN TO 1/5th HP WITH NO CHANCE OF COUNTERPLAY, HAHA TRY TO MAKE A COMEBACK FUCKER
and don't forget
pre-objective nerf
>the team with better AoE wins in a 10 minute stomp
post-nerf
>the team with better AoE wins in a protracted Garden of Terror-style 25 minute slug fest
and somehow that's better
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>>123410616

No doubt but those brown horse Raynor fucks are in a league of their own.
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>>123410384
>having a problem with punishers

They're much easier to deal with once you realize their jump has a cooldown and they jump on the closest thing they see when it's up. Just bait the punisher into jumping behind your gate and your team can kill it ezpz.
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>>123410473
soon
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How the fuck do I play Cho'gall in QM? Last game three fuckers on the enemy team had giant killer. Three!
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>>123409873
>no matchmaking
Keep telling yourself that, if you get put with shitter and noobs it's your mmr that causes it. There is an MMR system in place. I know because a friend of mine who rather sucks only ever sees ranks 30-40 in the load screen, and very often low level people. Meanwhile my load screen is full of rank 1s.

But yeah, it definitely needs a a mode where you can see picks and counterpick.
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>Abathur on my team again.

When will this meme end?
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>>123411215
You stand back and let gall poke shit and throw out that OP as fuck shadowbolt ult. Get upheaval to combo into it, and molten block if they try to chase you down.
Sounds boring, it is boring. In games where you can't tank a reasonable amount of time that's just how you have to play, though.
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>playing Uther in QM
>7 win streak
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>>123411857
I have my most deaths with uther, but also my most wins and most kills

and he's not even my most played hero, he's like fifth
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>>123411215
same way you play anyone in QM.
Hope you don't queue into your direct counters while having a team of retards
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>>123408974

epic tale from the land of bronze, lad
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>>123411649
>Falstad, Rexxar, Uther, Malf, Aba..
>Aba leaves in the first two minutes never comes back.

I love this match making. Everyone who plays Aba should be gathered together and killed. Especially in quick match.
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>>123412459
What's the abathur AI like?
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>>123411761
>>123412169
Gotcha. Oh well. A bit frustrating.
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>>123413201
it's pretty awful.
like, I've seen Aba AI's that just sit in the entrance of a lane and DIE when minions come to attack it
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Has anyone else noticed that Jaina has a wet cameltoe going on in her ready screen? Just wondering if this was an old meme or if I discovered it like the Shivarra vagina in WoW.
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>>123405515
Absolutely nothing weird about that match. You haven't played nearly enough games, and your MMR is clearly on the level with most of these people. (Sub 2000 according to hotslogs)

Most of the people who post these pictures just don't know how mmr works.
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>>123413559
I think he was objecting more to the 4 warriors team comp than the skill of the players.
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Man, Sylvanas really suffered from the scaling changes. I play her a lot and I know she has piss poor AA damage but this patch shits on it even more. I cant even damage a fucking falstaad outside of her q and envenom
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Reminder that you shouldn't get mad at TrapGod if he disconnects because his roommate is a retarded sack of shit who can't take batteries out of a smoke detector
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>>123413738
But that's also clearly because it's a party of four or three.
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>Two Uthers in a row.
>Neither took cleanse against Murky.
>Neither took Divine Shield.
>One had a Master Skin.
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>>123414152
>wahh I want the uther to be my bitch
good uthers are nobodies bitch, they get holy shock and zap the shit out of everyone like they're supposed to
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>>123414484
nice try Rehgar
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>>123414968
I bet you get butthurt when rehgars get bloodlust in pubs, too
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>>123413761
get guud
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>>123415148
I don't because I expect nothing of Rehgar players, that way I'm never disappointed
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>>123413761
>hero that can stun forts
>hero that has high autoattack damage
pick one
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Where the FUCK is Maiev???
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>>123416120
>4+ hours late on the meme post

might as well retire now, anon, you've lost your touch
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>>123415148
It's expected for someone playing Rehgar to pick a the shitty choice.
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>>123413559
>>123414025
yes it turned out to be a party of 4 warriors, never happened to me before and they all sucked so we lost.

also fuck your MMR gimmick, I'm not even on hotslogs
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What the FUCK is Li Li doing???
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>>123416120
Maybe next year.
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>>123416370
youre on hotdogs whether you upload or not

>>123416385
probably something fun and cute
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Johanna is bae
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>He thinks Kerrigan isn't good
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>>123416370
If you're not on hotslogs, how do I know you play on EU, and your Kharazim and Nazeebo are level 9, your highest levels?
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>>123416385
Dropping on hotslog pretty fast.
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>>123416558
is q range and reset the usual kerri talent choices?
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How good/bad is an MMR of 3000? I have nothing to compare that to
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>>123416818
Q resets after a kill every time, q talents I take are
>Siphoning Impact: Heals for 10% of max hp
>Clean Kill: Free ravage if it kills, increases next ravage damage by 20%
>Eviscerate: More range
The amount of kill confirms Ravage gives is insane
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>>123416558
>tfw flash leaning kerigan while playing abthur

it's like painting a picture with sudden irregular spikes of pure violence
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>>123417146
It's the baseline for not being retarded
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>>123416632
>tfw Li Li is down to 52% wins
>60% is gone for good ;_;
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>>123416512
>>123416559
spooky but it's outdated af, I have 406 games played but hots says 89

Here is my MMR btw
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>>123417634
It also says you have no friends to play with.
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>>123417146
most here are under, but won't admit it

I think top 200 starts as low as 3800 range
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>>123417659
Just like you.
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>>123417796
False. 33% of my games are played with friends.

Unlike yours: Literally 0.
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>>123398927
This image makes me giggle for some reason
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>>123417864
Ok, but you still suck.

I have played a few matches with ''friends'' I met in the game, not hero league tho.
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>>123418034
Update your hotslogs.
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>Please wait while we attempt to reconnect you to the game
>You have been dropped.
Should I just kill myself?
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>123418073
Just for you I'm uploading right now, bit curious myself as well

I thought they had to access my account or something, but it's easier than I thought
Only 300 more to go
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Chogall is such a huge fucking disadvantage when you have one on your team and the enemy doesn't.
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>>123418635
only because you have to rely on 2 people not being retarded as opposed to just one
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>be me
>playing based chogall
>abbey on our team
>abbey hat on us, cho builds tanky
>literally just 1v3 their team who thinks us in a lane will by ourselves will be an easy kill
>lel all the way to the bank as shitters get so mad they keep focusing us all game and dying.
>mfw
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>>123418979
It's more than that. It's that in maps with multiple objectives they can only do 1 as opposed to 2.
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>>123418635
played with these 3 fucking morons 3 games in a row last night, they were premade Cho'gall and Abathur. they are all pure garbage but the guy playing Cho especially was by far one of the worst players I have seen, so his 2 shitter friends that relied on him were even more fucked
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>>123418580
if you hadn't uploaded your replays before, it's gonna take a day or so before all the MMR calculations are done, since hotdogs now has to go through all your past games and work through those first

they actually ask that you upload at least 1 replay every 3 days to keep the MMR calculations up to date
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>>123419582
Took 2 weeks for me, but then again I've actually played this game before.

But yes, it'll take a while.
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>>123419393
And a number of heroes have built in hard counters

When will the chogall shit stop
Fucker has 24% winrate and people actually think he is good
>>123419167
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>>123419628
damn, it only took like 6 hours for me, must have uploaded a ton for it to take 2 weeks
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>>123416558
I love playing Kerrigan, but playing her in QM is 80% you won't have another melee, and there's a general 90% chance your team will not follow up on your combos.
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>>123409497

No you werent
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>>123419809
Maybe around 3000 replays, yeah. It didn't even take most of them into account when calculating mmr, as they were too old.
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>>123419582
>>123419628
Alright, thanks for the heads up

I can't wait to become a MMR junkie
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Solo queueing support really isn't as bad as some people say it is.
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Why the fuck does Void Prison even exist? Imbalanced as fuck.
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>>123420538
Support is the one role that can actually carry and help cover other's mistakes.
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whoa..
so this..
is the power..
of hots..
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>>123418635
They fixed this by making Tower of Doom. A map tailored made for Cho'Gall.

>Does insane damage to towers and forts from a safe distance.
>Really small lanes and lots of hiding places meaning you can get from top to bottom pretty quick.
>Having 4 people is less of a disadvantage because of the small gap between lanes.
>One of his huge disadvantages, being able to attack core after you kill him easily is gone because you can't attack core.

It's like they made Cho'Gall realized he was shit and then made this map to show that he was still good guys.
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>Someone asks me to pick a ranged assassin in HL
>I pick Raynor when they have double Warriors
>everyone bitches at me because Kael was open

People STILL think Raynor is a bad Assassin

Like LOL?!?!?!??!
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>>123419768
chogall is all about having two people that aren't shit. he can easily 2v1 if you build him right and aren't bad.
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>>123421242
If you fight Cho'Gall 2v1 you are fucking stupid. That's the problem Butcher has. This game does everything in it's power to tell you not to 1v1. Which is where Cho'Gall shines and that's sort of the problem.
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is there a youtube or something that teaches things about this game?

when is it fine to go double support or when do you go double warrior in a team comp?

When is the ideal time to be doing merc camps?
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>>123421368
I think he meant two players on the other team vs 1 Cho'gall.

Which Cho'gall can win pretty easily but that is actually still a 2v2.
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>>123421368
the only bad game i had as cho'gall was when EVERYONE on their team had mobility to get away from me, falstead, raynor, morales, illidan. i was just kited for fucking days, it was bullshit.

and of course my team was shit and couldn't land and CC
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>>123421568
Depends on the character. I saw a Zagara and Brightwing dance around Cho'Gall making him look like a fucking idiot.
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>>123421621
The only two counters on that team are Falstad and Raynor. If you had problems with that team I'd stick to Quick Match, where he's not even good at.

The only game I've ever lost to Cho'Gall is because we had a Cho'Gall on our team and a Abathur.
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>>123421782
illidan dodges all attacks and can run away from me, and morales can push back. i was constatly moving at half speed. it was fucking gay

and abbey+ chogall is fucking godlike, you can basically 1v5
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The big problem with Cho isn't necessarily the -1 body on the battlefield (if that were true, Abathur would never be picked at all)

The problem is that Cho has a series of damning counters that really, REALLY fuck him over. Anyone with Giant Killer destroys him, stuff like Web Blast and Polymorph suddenly takes two people out of a fight instead of just one, certain ults like SSS will tear him a new asshole every single time, etc.
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>>123422035
>and abbey+ chogall is fucking godlike, you can basically 1v5
Except the part where you'll be 10 levels down since you only have 3 bodies that can be in lane.
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>>123422035
>almost 1v5
with three players

this is how chogall players think
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>>123422207
just get a TLV on your team for great soak and you are fine. or have the other two people on your team take the other two lanes and you should be fine, it will take at LEAST 2 people to not completely lose the lane cho is in, most likely three if abbey is on you constanlty.
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>uther is good
I want this meme to end, lmao...
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>never lose as Cho ever
>for the first time ever get a Cho'gall on my team that isn't me
>lose horribly because Cho was afk for 2 minutes and a total retard in general
I get why people dislike him now
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>>123422369
>2 people to lane vs cho
who is two people
>3 to lane vs a cho and abathur
which is three people

nobody ever fucking says things like
>sonya, plus uther, plus raynor together can basically 1v5
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>He doesn't play with his shaft and balls tucked away beneath some nice panties
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>>123422548
they cant, but chogall can :^)
you take all those tank/healing abilites as cho and get a good volley as gall and you can just kill their entire team, especially if abbey is on you and specing symbiote with healing shield and healing spike burst. its like having the sustain of butcher with the burst of jaina. its great.
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>>123422395

>B-buy Tyrande, she's great!
>B-buy Uther, he's awesome, so much heals!

>They all get out-healed by Morales, BW, Malf, Rehgar, Monk, Lili

l
m
a
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>>123421429
Picking double warrior or supp all depends on who the warriors or supports are. Warriors like Sonya or Diablo typically need another warrior to back them up.
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>>123422735
>if the enemy team is retarded and low mmr you can totally 3v5 them lol
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>>123422914

>ever choosing medic or rehgar

wew lad, that's some top tier memeing
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>>123422914
>Morales and BW's healing numbers
>meaning anything
now this is a premium meme
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>>123423079
>not knowing how to throw down the epic heals as brightwing
lmaoing @ your life rn senpai
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So it's confirmed. Cho'Gall players are fucking retarded.
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>>123423079

100k healing in a 15 min match, lmaaaaaaaoooooo

come on, seriously, Tyrande's heals are -okay- but they are not comparable to a real support right now

she's a back up to be accompanied by a healer
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>>123423010

is there a reason for that?

what makes them better with another warrior?

I genuinely do not know and that is why I am asking
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>coinflip shire in QM
>it's called coinflip shire because there is no coordination ever and whichever side gets that 3 seconds to capture and pulls it off is random
>fucking nova and CG
>goodl_ckyo_'ref_cked.mp4
>dude 3 bodies on coinflip shire
>3 BODIES
>nova takes triple tap
>CG feeds repeatedly while complaining about our arthas
>ah who cares about any of this shit anyway
>just mope around pressing buttons and getting wrecked by a passing diablo every now and then
>enemy gets a 5 level lead, waddles over to our core with another dragon knight because they can just collect it ezpz now
>Cho has the gall to whisper me this after game

he's a cheeky fuccen cunt I'll tell yer that one m8
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>>123423426
sonya is like midway between tank and dps
not great trying to pure tank with her
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>>123423426
They're both very squishy for warriors with their popular builds right now. Having another warrior helps soak damage.
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>>123423237
she has good heals some times, but since she's literally healing everything all the time her numbers get inflated
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>>123423426
Sonya is probably the squishiest warrior in the game but also has by far the most damage out of the other warriors. She's usually there to dive the backline so she needs another warrior to handle the front.

Diablo can be damn pretty tanky but is also All In on basically everything he does so having another Warrior cover him is nice.
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>>123423564
>>123423679
>>123423952


I understand now. Thank you
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Why are people complaining about sylvanas not being sexy enough
Did they change her model
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>>123424614
They gave her new armor in WoW for her new role as Warchief of the Horde.
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>>123424725
I see. That sucks.
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>queue for quick meme as brightwing for some practice
>get another healer and 3 dps against a well balanced tank+support+2 assassins+specialist

i need to just try stuff out in hero league, what sthe point of that shit
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>>123425090
>tfw consistently get 5+ win streaks playing brightwing
you're just bronze
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>>123425052
Its not even that covering her up is bad, its more that it looks like it was "quick slap some sheets on her so the SJW don't complain" it doesnt match at all.
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>from rank 12 to 20 within a dozen games
>suddenly people become twice stupider
>etc mosh pitting thin air
>nova pick against cho gall
>15 deaths valla
Is this what hell on earth is like?
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>>123425847
It sucks to change shit to appease anybody senpai
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>>123425847

it's the same guy who has been doing this for days on end now, he doesn't post about anything else

surprised he hasn't gone to /r9k/ or 9-1chan yet
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>>123426286
>I don't know anything about why the change was made, but i'm gonna shitpost anyways.
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>>123425847
It's more that redesign doesn't look good. I'd be fine if the redesign was better but it just looks boring.
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>>123425912
>never heard of air guitars
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>>123425912
If that's where you end up, it's where you belong.
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if sjw-ism gave me johanna's hair im perfectly ok with it
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>>123427108
how many SJWs main Johanna?
answer: none
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>Abathur on my team
>alt+f4
>start rejoining after 17 min
>due to the shit engine i will rejoin at around 19 min
>don't get leaver punishment and get gold and xp because the games always end around 21 min anyway
>Don't have to drag to the shitfest
>Shitpost on Taiwanese stamp collecting board while doing it

This is the best.
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>>123427341
She really is best girl
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>>123427341
Most who play this game desu
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>>123428759
>Most who play this game desu
>implying SJWs know how to use a computer beyond tumblr and dominos delivery
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>>123428920
yes, that's why you don't see many of them. but 90% of them are playing johanna.

and literal sjw cuks are too
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>>123427518
this is pretty much the shitposting dream
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>>123419581
Were you that guy calling out Abathur for taking a standard Abathur build?
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I fucking hate Garden of Terror

How do you fucking do well
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>random quick match hero tries to blame me for his mistakes
>he is trying to get everyone on my team to report me
>he is saying 4 man report insta 1 day suspension enjoy your ban
>get him as enemy next game
>they have a strong ass setup
>worried i might lose to this clown getting carried
>play my best
>win game
>unblock
>mock him about the defeat without any profanity
>block him again before he can answer
Best feeling. Even worth a blog post here.
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>tfw you win with a nova, artanis, medic and gazlowe on your team against a proper comp at rank _1.

Just believe in yourself and you can do anything senpai
Also playing the best KT of all time helps :^)
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Senjinn stop donating to Horsepants.
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>kill Illidank as Kael'thas
>"Kil'jaeden... Will be pleased"
based salami man
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I'm not one to complain about comps very often, but for my first QM game as Jaina, I got something very special.

I didn't even know you could get warrior vs. no warrior. At least they didn't also get a support.
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honestly considering suicide
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>>123432643
>nova
>bugmodan

You asked for it.
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You are now the last hero you played as, including skin
What are you and how do you react?
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>>123433096

I'm base skin sonya.

I immediately head to the nearest girl hero and force them to submit to my cock.
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>>123433096

>Kael'Thas in default skin

This is fine.
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>>123433096
>Zagara
>Desert Queen

not going to lie, I'd probably freak out at first, then check myself out with a big mirror, then start massaging my new perfect c-cups and play with my hair
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how do i see mmr?
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>>123433096
>Default Diablo
I am more than fine with this situation.
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>>123433426
Kill yourself
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>>123433687
first and last time i post in hots

have fun with your dead game where every hero costs $10, i'm gonna go back to dota where we have 110 free heroes

asshole
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>>123433096
Red Skin Jade Dragon Kharazim.

imokaywiththis.webm
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I don't follow the HL and esports meta. How did Diablo got this high in win rates? After the buff it was hovering around 50-51% for a long time.
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>>123433838
If only it was so easy every time.
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>>123433096
base skin Johanna
touch myself
so much
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>>123433096
>Kael'thas with his neat red and gold skin variation
salami my ash anal nores I guess
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>>123433919

Increased focus on early game shutout comps, improved by scaling changes
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>>123433096
So nothings changed. Oh well.
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>>123433096

>uther

guess I have to go out and dispense justice.
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>>123433096
Thrall. Guess I'm Jesus.
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The only constant is me
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>>123433415
God damn Desert Zagara has the best breasts of anyone. Not too big, not too small and not furry or scaly.
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>>123433096
>master skin Rehgar

MY ONLY DREAM BECAME TRUE
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>>123435436
>saying that when Master Jaina and Succubus Kerrigan are in the game
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>>123435436
don't be such a hater senpai, nobody makes fun of zags gaping zerg hole
Its not cool to bully over waifus
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Been getting salty about this game for too long. Gonna try not to be such an asshole anymore.
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>>123433096

>Sonya

same thing I'm already doing, jacking off
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>>123433426
hotslogs estimates mmr based on uploaded replays
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>>123433096
>be afraid of ghosts
>Im now a Ranger General
>Im now surrounded with Banshees

What joy is there in this curse?
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>You need to win 2 games with some random guy to unlock Cho'Gall

Come on man
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>>123436372
do it vs AI, still counts
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You can't beat Green Jesus.
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>>123434075
stay AWAY from my waifu
she's too pure for your lewd thoughts fuckface
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>>123433838
If you cant even handle the BANTZ here, you cant survive in dota. Just do yourself a favor and play LoL instead. I heard riot actively bans toxic players
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>>123435436
>Not Valla.
>>
>land perfect mosh pit
>your team is too busy chasing muradin to capitalize on it
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>>123436993
>perfect mosh pit
>doesnt hit the 1 person who can stun you out of it
???
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LMAO cho'gall is a fucking riot, greatest hero ever

Actually never creamed so many shitters in my life so efficiently

me and a buddy just won 9 games in a row and died maybe 3 times in all of them combined

Gonna get the most out of this before the nerf, jesus
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>>123432537
this isn't even a bad QM comp lmao
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>>123437120
Sorry to tell you this but Cho'Gall is terrible. If you are winning with him it's only because you are literal bronze playing other bronze players.

He is getting a little better though now that people are realizing the best way to play him is to just sit back and let Gall poke.
>>
Double Fake vs Crippling Shot?
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>>123437492

Nah, great projection though

Me and my buddy have been playing moba's for 6 years, we're just way better than 99% of this playerbase
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>>123437704

Crippling Shot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Double Fake
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>>123437754
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Why is Jaina dificullty medium, but Kael is hard?

All you have to do with Kael is press w.
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>>123437492
>not building Cho's sustain and using Consuming Blaze and bombs to keep you constantly healed
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>>123437754
>so bad he can't even see that he's bad
lost cause, time to ignore this kid until he grows a pair and stops being so bad
>>
Is the matchmaking system for this game..a bit iffy?

I played the 20 ranked games to find out my rank, at the beginning i was matched with/against rank 18-19 people. 50/50 win rate for a while, then went on a lose streak(shit happens) with people literally respawning running down the lane, dying, and doing it again(not intentionally feeding, just rather stupid).

This kept happening until i lost the last game and got rank 29, then won a single game and it sent me to rank 27(close to 26).

How the fuck does this system work.
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>>123438407
Just to clarify, point wise. Is it normal to go up almost 2 ranks at once? or is it rare. At the moment, i'm just finding it hard figuring out what a good team composition is(what is the best tank pick for our team etc). But i'm surei'll learn that with time.
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>>123436640
what lvl 7 and 13 talent do you pick?
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>>123438407
it doesn't

it's based off the retarded Rank system that Hearthstone uses because showing Bronze/Silver/Gold/etc hurts people feelings, and instead, you can climb ranks super easily to make everyone feel like a winner
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>>123438407
>got rank 29, then won a single game and it sent me to rank 27
You get bonus points when you win a game at a rank lower than your MMR. The game essentially places you a bit lower than your actual rank, but gives you a super easy time ranking up until your MMR settles a bit.
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>tfw no friends to get Cho'Shit with
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>>123438037

galaxy quest really is a great movie
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>>123438643
>>123438627
Oh, okay. I was sorta thinking it would be similar to dota's mmr or something. But the HS comparison helps. Are they changing this in the future? Or are they happy the way it is.
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>>123438575
Level 7 always Follow Through.
Level 13 Spell Shield if they have Jaina or KT. Grace of Air if I need more healing. Giant Killer if they have a big tank or Cho'Gall.
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>>123438407
It is like that for the first few games or even days after you get your rank. Your mmr is still being adjusted/guessed at this time. When it stabilizes, you are now matched with similar mmr and you dont gain bonus ranked points anymore unless you win against a team that has more mmr than you.

All that assuming you dont queue past the estimated time to find a match
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>>123438856
Forgot to add. A great thing about Thrall is he has a lot of different builds. Wind Fury is really good as well.

It depends on what you need. I like Chain Lightning in most cases because of poking ability.
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>>123438849
I don't think they'll change ranking for 98% of players. They'll be adding in a grandmaster league for the top players, though. As it is, rank 1 covers a wide array of player skill.
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>>123438407
When you create a HotS account it selects a hidden rank for you using a RNG. It can be anywhere from 1-40. Once you take your placement games you will then gain bonus points until you are at the randomly generated hidden rank.
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>>123438991
Fair enough, well, my option is to just get better and learn to pick better around my team. is there any site that can help me with this? Like what warriors are best for which sittuations, when one ranged assassins is better than the other and stuff like that.
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>>123438174
That's what everyone does. He still gets destroyed. Cho'Gall isn't good because of his health it's because of the raw damage he can put out if you clump together.

If they don't clump together you get fucked.
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>>123439185
http://hotscounters.com/

it's kind of a crowdsourced way of getting tips on how to play as, with, and against specific heroes
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>>123438676
there are plenty of people desperate to get rid of him for the gold.
if you want him, post battle tag and region here or say that you want him in vg or general chat
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>>123409985
the meme thing to do is go team of dbl specialist to force the enemy to waste time retaking keeps. I convinced a teammate to go murky with my zagura and we shat on their keeps constantly. They either claimed altars and did piss poor damage or gave up shrines to reclaim all of their lost forts. By the end we had 5 keeps up at almost all times me and murky just rotating so they would have to struggle to keep one.
>>
I literally can't understand how some people can be so BAD at this game, like how many times do you have to facecheck bushes and how many 50-second death timers do you need before you get tired of dying 10 times a game
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>>123440256
>good advice downvoted to shit for seemingly no reason
seems like a good site, but watch out
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So, if I can only have one mount, which of the cash mounts looks good with most of the heroes?

Thinking of either the Judgement Charger, Headless Horseman Charger or either of the Wolves
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>>123442040
I got the Dire Wolf mount and it's pretty nice. It depends on who you like really. But Vampire Hunter Valla with the white alt, and the last color of Dire Wolf is pretty great.
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>>123442040
>using paid mounts
>using non-default mounts other than the Hearthstone card
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>>123442194
Math's Mount is free if you have Diablo.
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>>123442040
the chargers are tacky
>>
How do i find people to play hots with voice comms
I've only started recently but everyone i know exclusively plays either dota or league
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Hey Diablo it's your couzin Azmo
Lets go bowling
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So what are you fags buying from this sale?
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>Black sales probably their last ditch effort in milking this game
>Doesnt even include Malthael and Billy LE mounts

wew
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>>123444458
I bought Vampire Hunter Valla, Marshal Raynor and Dire Wolf. I might get Hellhammer Thrall but doubt it.
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>>123444256
FUCK OFF AZMO, NO ONE LIKES BOWLING, WE ONLY KEEP YOU AROUND BECAUSE WE FEEL BAD FOR YOU, FUCK YOU AND FUCK BOWLING
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>>123444939
Malth is for having Diablo. Like the Void Seeker, the WoW mount, the Felstalker and the Hearthstone Card.

Soon to be the Vulture as well.
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>>123444458
nothing because im not retarded
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>>123444989
tfw no /d3g/ thread so i have to post diablo memes here
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>>123444458
explorer Li Li

>>123444939
billy le?
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>>123445156
aren't most /d3g/ folks just waiting for the next season?

personally, i just played it once for the story, and that was about it, didn't really do much more after that, and doing the rifts became almost a chore :(

shame too, i really enjoyed it when it first came out + reaper of souls
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>>123444458
>wasting money on this
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>>123444458
Judgement Uther and Judgement Horse.
Never even played Uther before.
I really like him.
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>>123444458
i bought the 360 stimpack

some dude on leddit did the math and if you play 7 games a day, it's worth it
>>
>>123445812
S5 felt promising then they patched the ptr and wiped the chars i was working on for muh meta gains builds
Kinda salty about it so i started playing hots
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>>123446153
>buy something
>you have to make it "worth it"
I hope you enjoy it, but fuck, this is such a retarded product.
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>Murky on the new map.

Jesus fuck nothing more annoying that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1SqoJPsa8
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>>123446301
I don't stim, but many products require significant work after being purchased to get any value out of them.
>>
I still don't understand why Blizzard thinks KT is okay.
>>
>>123446918
I meant in the context of digital in-game items of course, sorry for not being clear.
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>>123446828
murky is annoying as fuck on every fucking map
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>>123447148
This

If your entire hero existance is based around being a annoying fucking cocksucker, YOU'RE A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT.
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>>123447085
So only things that have no utility value should be purchased in games? Cosmetics are okay but if something improves your actual game in any way it's a no-no? Because anything that gives you any sort of gameplay or economical benefit requires some sort of time investment to have worth.
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>>123446828
>tfw playing against a murky abathur dou queue
>>
>play Chen
>level advantage
>Artanis beams me
>just take it to the face
>don't even drink through it
I hope he feels bad.
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>>123447480
Fuck off HORSEPANTS
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>>123447782
I hope you feel bad.
>Hurrdurr let's give a hero every advantage going, that's balanced right.
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>>123446153

>2,520 games required
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>>123448045
>Still bronze after all those games
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Which support should I get:

Kharazim
Medic
Uther
Tyrande
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>>123449756
MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC MEDIC


But no, don't. Uther and Tyrande are top, Uther for more support, Tyrande for more utility

Kha is alright
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>>123449756
Li Li
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>>123447901
actually who?
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Holy fuck people are actually incredibly shit at this game it's ridiculous.


The amount of times I'll see a team fight start, and then one person will die whilst 3 others just "watch" it happen with out engaging at all, then not 15 seconds later they decide to engage the same force and all die in the process.

Like how utterly fucking dumb do you need to be:

SHOULD I ENGAGE WITH MY WARRIOR

OR

SHOULD I ENGAGE AFTER MY WARRIOR HAS ALREADY DIED, WHICH I WATCHED FROM THE SAME SCREEN.
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'-'
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Reminder that only Master Skins matter.
Nobody cares about your paid skin but Master Skin always means business and is a real panties dropper.
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>>123449935
Can medic's sexy heals make up for her shit damage though?

I should really give Tyrande another try.

>>123449946
Got her long ago senpai
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>>123450556
Let me guess you are the warrior who decided its time to jump in, gets focused by 5 man and dies within 2 seconds blaming the team afterwards?
You should bait skills and more importantly ults if your team is still poking around.
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>>123449756
uther if u want to win

tyrande if u want to burst heal and call shots and belong to 3.5k
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>>123450984
Half the master skins look like pure garbage though.

I'm not dropping 10k gold when I'm hoarding upwards of 220k right now in case Blizzard ever decides to introduce an ultra gold sink.
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>>123451038
Medic is tryhard powergame wise the worst support right now.

Tyrande is where the fun is while being viable and Uther is 360 noscope meta but requires some decent micro skills since the go to build is taking nearly all optional skills.
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>>123451038
forgot Monk.
super fun once you master him but takes lots of practice and dedication to get good at.
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>>123451086
>>123451184

Thanks anons, I might actually just get both Uther and Tyrande since I have the cash..
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>tfw used to play this game with buddies I met through the channel nightly
>tfw less and less of them play it nowadays
>tfw watching this game die
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>>123447369
I can agree with that, but garbage like real-time boosts just make you feel like you're on the clock and at work. It's just not a good product. Per game (or win), by play time, tons of other options that would help this issue are available.
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>>123450984
master skins don't mean you aren't shit, senpai, it means you leveled to 10 and spent some gold
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>>123452756
>play QM, yolo Q
>this Sylv on my team is absolutely horrible
>complains in chat
>"follow my orders, I have master skin"
>check hotdogs later
>600 MMR

Alright then.
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>>123452409
Just because your social life is dying doesn't mean this game is.
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>>123451478
Get Judgement Uther >>123446110
Because it's so sex.
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>>123453068
>people that used to play this game a lot
>stop playing


It's not thriving anon it's losing players if anything
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>>123453068
Matchmaking wouldn't be so universally ridiculed if player numbers were higher. I absolutely cannot image that it's just the worst MM system ever. There just isn't a big enough pool.
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>>123451079
>'let me guess'

Wrong. No I play Falstad exclusively, top damage 90% of games and am legitimately a good player. Go fuck your self retard.
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>>123453439
>play one hero exclusively
>good player
Literally impossible.
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>>123453480
80% win rate
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>>123454060
In how many games?


Not to pick your play apart and shit on you, but please do post replays/hotdogs/videos/a stream.
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>>123452919
Story of every master Nova ever

>>123449756

Get Tyrande. Objectively the best support char in the game right now.
also best ass
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>>123454223
in about 140, and by exclusively I play it every chance I can. I don't play it sometimes.
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>>123449756
>Kharazim
if you like being focused in QM

>Medic
if you like being the bait

>Uther
if you like people expecting you to be a gamechanger

>Tyrande
if you like being a more practical, team comboing nova

>>123450556
default mindset is deaths are bad and even fights should be avoided. takes a lot to break reflexes.

>>123450984
if you want something that shows bad decision making to people it would be using most master skins with a base color. you wanted to be noticed but hardly anyone will.
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>>123433096
>Lost Vikings
how would that work? would they be clones of myself or would i be all three of them simultaneously?
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>win as Rehgar a load of times in a row in quick meme
>most of the time have another support on the team so I just do shield damage + bloodlust

Fun as fuck to be honest but I'm not sure why I'm getting so lucky. This shouldn't be allowed.
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>>123435425
I've recently started after 3 years of dota, it feels like i'm back in the shadowbracket, this is my life
my unthers are russian my sonas are uzbeck
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>>123449756
Rehgar
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>>123456073
nova* no idea why i thought it was a sona
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i started playing hero league tonight to break the tedium of shitty QM matchmaking, under the self-imposed rule that i can only play Protoss dudes

i'm 5-0 in placement matches so far
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>tfw you take down a member of tem0-3storm in a 5-stack with a bunch of /vg/ memers and an auto-select
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>>123456565
>56565
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>>123456665
>123456
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>>123456976
you were so close to 123456978
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>>123456565
>>123456665
>>123456976
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>>123456789
i wonder who's gonna get this one.
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>Playing with ranks 5-10 on HL
>They fucking died like 5 times each
>I die one time, even said sorry for the mistake
>HEY MURA WHY ARE YOU RANK 1 YOU DON'T DESERVE SHIT HAHA REPORTED FOR BEING SO BAD

It even continued when one afk and I said at least to report him, and then one said "Yeah, report this bot mura".

I can't say I'm not mad.
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>>123426785
Not true. Srey had dropped to rank 8 at one point.
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>>123456275
queue with someone higher rank than you to climb
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>>123456275
That's because you play actual retards in your first few games which boosts you to high mmr. Then you'll be in rank 1-8 games and you'll feed and make your team lose and everyone will be asking why the fuck they have a placement match shitcan on their team
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>>123398927

I was wondering, would anyone be interested in a new lvl30 account with all the gold you get 'till that lvl + some extra? I need some extra cash, and this would come handy. What would be a fair price?

If anyone didn't know, you get a free name change on every account.
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>>123457861
Stop shilling your poorfag scheme in these threads every day. Reported
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>>123457861

All that gold should give you at least 5-6 heroes btw, and you'll be ready for HL.
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>>123457930

I'm ASKING, not offering, sheesh. That I would do on another site, not here. Some have asked for this before, and I though I could give them what they wanted.
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>>123457861
do you accept wow gold?
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>>123457861
Just know that I'm just waiting to undercut you. I have around 20 accounts prepared, between level 35 and 40.
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I wanted to shove some money down blizzards neck but although I have Paypal specified as preferred payment method it says I don´t have specified a payment method. Fuck you too Blizzard, you won´t get my money then
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>electronic athlete meets meme spouting retards
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>>123459234
>raynor dies to the combined damage of three heroes

wew lad, noone saw that soming :^)
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>>123459350
Kharazim 1v1'd him in more than one opportunity and came up on top on each one.
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>>123459350

>pro player 5 stacks and loses to a /vg/ 4 stack
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>Literally no skin interests me at all
>I have all the heroes I want
>Stimpacks aren't cost efficient
More money for Steam I guess
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>>123458429

Sadly I don't play WoW.

>>123458682

Well, I can always offer one dollar less, I need money. ; _ ;
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>>123433096
>base skin Leoric
guess I'm boned
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>>123433096
>red purifier Artanis
Well, now I'm a bright red angry robot that hates all organic life. This could have gone better.
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Why is Khaldor never invited to do commentary?
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>>123456565
I only see two memes in that team, lad.
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Is Tyrael worth buying?
And, his demon skyn is worth, too?
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>>123460086
Because, if he was put in the studio, the light from the lamps would reflect off of his perfectly bald head and blind the players and co-hosts
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>>123460293
yes, no
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>5v5
>Artanis dies
>Neither Uther or Malf heal him
>That's fine whatever, keep Tyrael healed then
>Tyrael dies
>Malf pops ultimate
>Malf gets focused
>Uther divine shields him

okay look honestly im done.
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them: nazeebo kharazim kael'thas muradin kerrigan

us: raynor zeratul leoric jaina uther

map: spider queen

i'm feeling good about this HL shit so far, man
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>>123460468
I want to rub Khaldor's bald.
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>>123433096
>base Sonya
Oh baby
>>
SALAMI MALORE
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>>123460768
fuck
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>>123442040

starter bundle warhorse, dire wolf and the free mechanospider round out the default selection nicely
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>play vikings in hots
>play vikings in retroarch
>doodle shitty vikings images
vikings are love
vikings are life
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>tfw your favorite hero has no good skins
>>
>tfw you like monkey brightwings themed abilities but the skin itself isn't cute
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How am I supposed to play Arthas? I really like him as a hero (no homo) but he feels too sluggish without gap closer and escape and he isn´t as tanky as Muradin or leoric and does less dmg than sonya or artanis.
tl:dr is there any reason to pick arthas other than style? Or am I too stupid for him?
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>>123461780
Who is Johanna, Tyrael?
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>>123461780
>Sonya
;_;
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Streaming some literal bronze league on twitch dot tv slash fettboi. If you thought CommanderInTheBronze was bad you're in for a treat. I might also be getting drunk.
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>>123462343
>tfw Johanna's only good skin is her base skin with the Sister of Battle colors
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>>123461802
I've heard the voiceover is annoying. All of her lines are replaced with loud monkey screeches. Haven't actually tried it myself though
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>>123451184

Despite that, I rather enjoy her.

But then, I've had a lot of good luck with my teams having someone who really appreciates a stim drone like Hammer or a basic attack Assassin.
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>>123462429

Order of Our Martyred Lady colours look pretty fantastic on her.

To be honest though, I can't stand basically any of the Master skins in this game. They are just too busy.
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>>123463473
Butcher one looks great.
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>>123463473
What baffles me is that all of the Diablo heroes' master skins aren't top-tier gear from D3. It'd be easy as shit to import AND would make good fanservice!
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>>123462709
yeah, I just like how you can throw bananas
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how do i find relatively new players that speak English on eu to party with
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>>123463570

Seeing the Wizard, when she turns up, having the Firebird Set or something as her Master Skin would be pretty good.

It's stylish without being as busy as a lot of them.

But then, I'm not a WoW fan for that very reason. Too few armour sets I can stand a character in.
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>>123462187
arthas was op in beta because of +33% freeze aura radius talent on level 4 or 7, it was moved to level 16 now i think
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>>123463769
They completely got rid of his +33% radius talent. The 16 talent increases its damage.
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>>123462390
Why have skins when the base model is perfect?
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>>123462187
>sluggish without gap closer and escape
that's what the freeze is for. you just don't get two like muradin so you play for assists rather than being a time waster like mura/jo/leo. he's slow game where you wait for opportunities and use your aura push power over time, then drop dragons to finish the job.
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>>123464146
I wanna buy clothes for my wife
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http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/concept/garrosh-hellscream-3225

rate my meme concept
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So what's the verdict on Cho'Gall?

What's the verdict on memeteam Cho'Gall + Abathur?
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>>123465000
if you team isn't shit is fun as fuck and super strong.
but the other two people on your team are usually awful
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>>123465000
Giant Killer+Blood for Blood magnet. Almost always a bad pick
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>>123465106
he's fun, if your Cho is good then you can win without much trouble, if he's shit you are doomed
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Is Arthas any fun? I want to be an unstoppable tide of death upon my enemies.

Even though I know he's not that tanky, but still.
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>>123465191
>not titan killer
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>>123465193
the biggest part is having communication between cho and gall, make sure you get complimentary abilites, like getting upheaval and the AOE ult, or buffing the AOE heal and cho and as gall instead of getting the fist as cho, and the rune bomb upgrades as gall.
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>>123465191
Sounds like Raynor would be his hardcounter
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>>123465000
Cho'gall + Aba does not work. You don't have enough map presence.
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>>123465367
Who doesn't he counter anyway, that no brainer hero?
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>>123465492

Yeah. If you have even levels you'll ruin in teamfights but if there is more than a single objective you'll be way too short handed to make it work and you'll start losing on levels pretty fast.

Out of interest: Do you just get Cho if you make a copy of him with Aba?
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>>123465000
Chogall pretty good if you dont get countered. Cho is the leader of both so he must be the best of the two.

Rank 1 lvl 10 Cho now, just that, you can't pick him on every map and every comp but he wrecks all so easily is superfun

and aba+cho is suicidal, you need to play against a very bad team
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>>123465548
raynor take more skill than your trash sonya
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>>123465636
Yes the only difference is they let you blow up the bomb with Cho.
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>>123465000
Terrible, terrible combo. Have seen it at least a dozen times and it just exceptionally shit. There is some merit to having 1 less body. There is no merit to having 2 less.

Had a QM team last night with Cho'gall, Aba, Medic, and Nova. There is no deeper hell.
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>>123461780
Arthas...
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>is chogall good guise?!?!?!
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WHAT DOES BLIND DO HOLY SHIT, THIS WIKI IS USELESS
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>>123467156
Wow he's climbed a full 8% since release

OP
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>>123467191
your auto attacks miss, dealing no damage
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>>123467229
oh is it very good or worthless?
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>>123467264
very good against heroes that rely on auto attacks

reynor, illidan, thrall, artanis, etc.
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>>123467264
>any assassin that deals autoattack damage is raping your face
Gee i don't know if it's good to blind that nigga
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>>123467264

Depends on the enemy makeup.

It makes many assassins cry, it makes some laugh.
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>>123464912
Not a big fan of the design. Mortal strike seems like an interesting mechanic, but I can't even imagine how confusing it would be mid-combat. It has to have a cooldown of 20+ seconds and either have a slight cast time, or deal no damage by itself.

Tyrael wants his charge ult back. Actually, Butcher wants his stun buffed too. Cho also wants his knockback slam back.

Sonya is envious of the bladestorm attack. It's very basic. The other heroic, however, is overpowered as fuck but interesting. People would need to bail the heck out to counter it, but will be unable to due to the fucking faster than a horse movement speed. Maybe if it was 5 seconds in duration.

All in all your 'warrior' lacks some real crowd control or escape, all while being a pain in the ass, but once he's in there he either fights or dies. I'm guessing you can kind of sort of use charge to escape by using it on a minion, but that just rarely happens.

I rate it "I wish Blizzard has something better in their minds for this character" out of five.
>>
Who would everyone like to see in a new hero?

I'd like to see a Firebat myself.

'Ranged' (For a value of ranged. Barely longer than Melee) Warrior with his/her passive being AOE damage with autoattacks or some sort of damage over time.

Not the best at single target but horrific AOE potential and a tough bastard.
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Is this good? I don't know how the MMR system in this game works.
The highest it's been was 2.7k according to this site.
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>>123467964
>Is this good?
Short answer: No. Even mine is a thousand higher and I suck at the game. Upload the rest of your replays, it says you've only played 76 games.
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>>123432442
senjinn here

i, uh, can't seem to help myself apparently
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>>123468120
Huh, I had no clue how this worked till now.

Does that mean other people have uploaded games that include me 76 times?
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>>123468465
If you've not uploaded them yourself, it's because you've been one of the players of the replays other people have uploaded.

Download the updater software to get a real, more correct calculation in a couple of days.
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>>123468465
yes. you don't have to upload anything unless you care about passing a lot of other non-uploaders.
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>>123467964
>>123468465
Hotslogs is literally a meme website
The only way to tell if someone's good is to play with them, if they suck, then they suck
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>>123469072
If only they had a suck-o-meter ingame. But no, the game has to be a sjw safe space.
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>>123469173
you can literally check their profile in-game and look at their stats m8
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>>123469251
Yeah, I totally care that they have a 64% win ratio when all I see is quickmatch losses amongst tons of AI game wins.
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>>123469316
>spoonfeed me
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>>123469173
>>123469251
If they're useful during teamfights/game performance, then they're good, it really doesn't matter if they have 3000 MMR or 2000 MMR.
If they use good heroes and have good winrates with them, then they can't be utter shit
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>>123469374
>spoonfeed me
What did he mean by this?
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>>123469424
>no hotdogs mmr
>not shit

choose one
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>>123469316
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>>123469501
>hotdogs
>meaning anything
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>>123469536
>they have a 38% qm win ratio
>22% in HL
>94% in AI match
I don't know which one is more amazing.
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>>123469424
if you're under 3k it's pretty much impossible for you to be fully useful during games
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>>123469634
stratospheric mmr detected
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>>123469513
>her
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Any EU anon who isn't an ubernoob wants to make a team?
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>>123469827
bw is a lady, anon
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>>123469973
Not if you're spanish (of french) to be honest.
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>>123470135
Not him, but why?

And that seems spanish
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>>123470219
I mean, it's obviously spanish, but spanish speaking people are obnoxious and suck at the game in general, just like the french.
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>>123470135
MMR? 3k the spanish here
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>>123470295
>people who's native language isn't English or Korean are bad at every kind of video game
>they still don't get banned from online play by default
>>
Help me /hotsg/

Every time I play with actual good players supporting me, I do better and function better as a player.

But as soon as I rely the same from lesser players, they let me down and ultimately I will die in game.

But the thing that bugs me is I legitimately play worse in shit skill games than high skill games.

Is this normal? I don't function well at lower skills.
>>
>>123470486
only constant is you
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>>123470560
So I'm correct then? I'm basically a god tier player that rages at shit cunts and throws the game every time. Every game that has shit stats of mine is not because I played bad, but because I forced the game through my own will to be a shit game.

Thanks :D now I understand.
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>>123470641
No, you're a shitter that does better when better players tell him what to do/bail him out.
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>>123470641
yeah you good pham.
>>
>meawhile at blizz hq
>"uh, hey boss this guy got 5 wins in a row!"
>"alright, throw him in with the retards again"
100% accurate
>>
How do i cast skill on myself?
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>>123471160
>left click skill with your mouse
>left click your character
baka desu senpai
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>>123471238
so there is no hotkey to make it quicker?
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>>123471305
alt as all games
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>>123471305
check your options menu
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>>123433096
Base tyrande master skin

I'm pretty qt now
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>>123470439
I mean whenever I see a rank 1 or otherwise and they keep shitting spanish in the chat, I just know it's going to be a shitty player that eventually throws the game for us. Literally no game sense whatsoever, probably got carried to high ranks or bought their account for 2 peseta.

I've been right 90% of the time. But our MMR is equal, it just feels like it means nothing.
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>>123471689
I'm the Spanish. Our self-loathing is known but what you say is true, usually when I see someone from my country is insta-defeat.

It can be applied too to Frenchs or Russians but you are right.
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>>123471910
Yeah, I forgot about Russians who are a very good, even a prime example.
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>>123469973
i can play TL if u have 4 non-shitters for me

regards best eu anon
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>>123471972
you are racist.
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>>123472424
)))
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>>123470750
HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA THE ABSOLUTE CARNAGE OF THE CONSTANT RULE.

HOW DOES IT FEEL FAGGOT>

ITS ALMSOT LIKE YUOUR LOGIC IS FUCKING STUPID
AHH
AHAH
H
AHAH
H
H
AH
H
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Ok friends ! I am watching the esport when will I get my free Chogath?
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>>123472891
when you let someone cum inside of you repeatedly until he pozzed you
should take two times
>>
What is the worst player you ever had the misfortune to play with? Mine would have to be the stitches who refused to do objectives because he wanted to get mercenary camps because they gave "a psychological advantage" and then proceeded to feed because no one agreed with him.
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>>123473229
A guy was gonna take take Anub’arak back chain bomb spread to everything told him it was a bad idea, told him to take another tank he said he'll heal instead. Gets pissed when I have to take Arthas since my 2 tanks (Muradin and Leoric) at the time were taken he gets furious and feeds all game like ran into towers feeding.
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>>123473229

This fucker had 38 games as Lili.
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>>123473621
I want to FUCK dragon Li Li
>>
>Decide to play a hero league game.
>Team picks Azmo.

Tell me why I should give a shit about ranked?
>>
How do I become a pro Chen like thisigia?
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>won a game with an abathur that had 2 deaths, one of which was to a siege camp
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>>123474193
Then when they got they ass carried they say "Sure :)"
>>
>>123474067
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________chug chug chug
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>>123473710
I like panda Li Li
>>
>>123474291
Abathur players are the fucking worst
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>>123474049
>Decide to play hero league game.
>Enemy team picks Azmo.

Damn I love free wins
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>>123474346
I know!
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>>123474362

You misspelled Murky
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>>123474362
>>123474193

Weirdest thing I've ever seen is a Zeratul who managed to get personally killed by Abathur. Twice.

The first time he ran away from a fight at single digit HP and ran right into Abathur's bush and got whacked in the face.

The second time he got eaten by Abathur's (non-ult) minions while hunting him on 1/3 HP.
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>>123474362
Well to be honest I was the one commenting that, and I'm abathur main. You don't know how fucking hard is to carry a team being leader on everything just to lose and blame aba, or playing another champ and seeing abathurs as retarded as the one you got.
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>win 1 game
>lose 3
>win 2 games
>lose 4
What the fuck is this shit, are players worse all of a sudden?!
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>>123474306
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What would it take for Gazlowe to be good?
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>>123474871
Not being Gazlowe
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>>123474871
Other kind of players playing it. Their mentality is like Nova x3, I don't care about the game I just want to have fun.
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>esports
>none of these fuckers speaks english

kill them
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>>123474871
Removing Robo Goblin so shitters can't take it.
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>>123475368
or we go homo
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>>123475114
By ruining the fun of 4 other people. If you want to play Gazlowe play him in QM.
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>>123474871
I would do a total rework
Something crazy like Robogoblin as his trait instead of being an ulti (just an extra 50% damage, but with 50% resistance)
And as another option for his ults, I would put something like his robot going ham on hero damage or wathever.
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>>123474871
Make him a pure PVE hero like lost vikings were before they were nerfed. Make it so he has two flying turrets that he can order around and they can soak exp by die quickly. Also >>123475603 would be necessary.

To compensate for this, make it so all his ultimates are PVE only ultimates.
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Is it better to take the bubble build as murky or the puffer fish build?
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>>123476170
Depends on the enemy team
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So ever since playing co-op psi ops with my cousin when we were wee lads I've been waiting for a game to come out with a co-op mechanic like it.

Lo and fucking behold only the heroes of the storm team has the nads to do it.

I hear Cho is garbage though?
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>>123476170
I never understood the bubble build. You get away with everything either way. Can someone explain? No bully pls
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>>123476170
puffer fish build if you want to win, slime advantage + bubble if you want to be a game throwing memelord
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>>123476554
Make it double co-op, play Cho'gall vs AI, and the garbageness barely matters.
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>>123476571
get people to chase you around and try to focus you down, but then they can't because you have infinite bubbles so they waste their time and lose
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>>123476554
Cho is good and fun
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>>123474871
Laser is garbage. Instead of a laser something that complaints his zoning or anything else really.

Also enemies should drop scrap regardless of talent choice.
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>>123478581
holy shit, this.
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How's everyone liking the new map so far?
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>>123479118
Complete garbage.
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About to play a bunch of games as anub. Any tips?
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>>123479118

I'm finding it a bit too easy to recapture the lost forts since they are facing the original direction and don't come with real defenses.
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>>123479367
hope the enemy team has Cho'gall
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>>123476554
He's okay. You just have to have a team that plays smart, knows how to play with Cho'Gall and Cho'Gall can never make a mistake especially late game.

The minute you do late game you lose the game.
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>>123474871
some modest amount of ability resistance so he's not a free kill or neutralized by pretty much everyone
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>Close friend wants to play all the time
>he thinks hes good and projects onto everyone else
>hes the worst player ever, feeds like a motherfucker

What do?
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>>123479289
>>123479407
sounds like a couple losers to me
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>>123474871
>turrets need a slight damage boost, or increased damage against minions and structures
>laser needs significant damage boost, takes way too long to charge and does way too little damage
>also have its mana costs increase alongside the time spent charging, with a base cost of 20~30 and the channeling slowly draining mana or something
>xplodium charge is okay'ish, could maybe do a little more damage
>traits need significant boosts and more strength across the board
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>>123480076
tell him and stop playing with him?
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>>123480076
Tell him he's bad, if he's close friend he'd actually understand, if not he's stupid.
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>>123479118
it's a step in direction I like
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I played against somebody with 5 mmr last night. I didn't even know it was possible to have single digit mmr.
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so when are we getting Master Chef and Assassin's Creed into HotS?
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>>123480642
I remember an interview that they don't have to stick to Blizzard games, so they can also pick heroes from other Activision franchises. The example given was Call of Duty.
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>>123480642
I would drop this game in an instant if we get garbage like that
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>>123480753
Who would you even pick as a CoD representative? "le angry man with gun #3099"??
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>>123480828
One of the main characters.

Maybe the edgy ghost guy. Or the epic accent guy. Or the russian guy.
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>>123480902
so what would they do in HotS?

just run and shoot people?
their ult is to block enemy player's vision with bags of doritos and splash mountain dew to slow enemies?

even if they can get Activision characters, fuck that
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>>123480642
Arbiter skin for Artanis when?
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>>123480753
doesn't Activision have games that aren't cod
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So, I'm trying to choose between 2 warriors, Johanna and Leoric. I just want a good tank, which one you guys think it's better and why?
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>>123481353
leoric
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>>123481353
Theyre pretty different desu senpai. One is a Leorky and the other one is a shiny dmg sponge
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>>123481215
We lost our chance to have a Tony Hawk hero. I think Activision still has the Spider-Man license, though.
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>>123481215
lol, no

the rest would be under so many IPs that it'd be impossible to get the rights to include them in Heroes
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>>123481215
they are mostly a publisher. i don't know what they own the rights to but looking at their game lists it's probably very little.
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>>123481538
>Pitfall Harry

make it happen!
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>>123481038
Trait: Call of Duty - Can move while auto attacking rapidly, 10% chance to deal headshots for double damage
Q Quickscope - Turns your next auto attacks into a single sniper shot dealing 1080% damage
W Doritos blast - Throw a c4 claymore filled with deadly corn sharpnels, detonated manually or by enemy proximity
E Do the Dew - Give your surrounding friendly heroes a +69% damage boost for their next auto attack within 3 seconds
R1 AC130 - Use a laptop to control a slow moving crosshair for a warship, using a special set of abilities. You can be damaged and interrupted during this time.
R2 Attack chopper - Summon an AH64 attack helicopter to fight by your side, attacking your targets. Can be recasted to channel a target for a missile barrage.
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>>123480902
>Who is Soap
>Who is Sargent Foley
>Who is Mason
>Who is Reznov
Even if they did though, I'd drop the game harder than a fucking rock
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>>123482027
>literally all the same person
>mr shooty shooty pew pew

the only difference is in their accents which can be sold as a voice mod pack for $2.99 per voice

sure, they're different characters in the game, but overall for the intents and purposes of Heroes, they're generic military guy with a gun
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>>123482027
>play as Mason
>his trait scrambles all numbers to make stats totally meaningless
would main in HL
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>play with /vg/
>nigger goes AFK after playing a shitty vikings


Fuck you ipwnlocks you are legit trash
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>visit hotscounters because some anon suggested it earlier
>go to Tips on Countering KT
>top three posts are how to 'counter' Pyroblast

fucking site is filled with bronze scrubs, no one ever takes Pyroblast above 200 MMR
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>>123482209
>His trait is that his health goes to full after 10 seconds of no combat and red jam on the screen
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>>123481353
Johanna is a damage sponge and can cc. Leoric is a bruiser who's death timer is pretty much nonexistent.
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>>123482307
lmao get fucked ya whiny bronzie
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>>123482390
pyroblast is the only thing Kael'thas has to counter other than "don't stand near people after level 13"
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Salami
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>>123481847
make the headshot proc do a mini-stun at a rate of 40% chance to proc and deal additional damage
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>>123482634
>>123481847
>RNG
Ben Brode pls
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>>123482428
>getting pissed that a Nova is constantly gawking you and rage quit

Lick my shaft up and down just like your mother
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>>123482728
It's there to show how random headshots are in the real game too. Maybe it'll be a passive focused attack, then.
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>>123482598
a salad noire
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Why kael look like vampire?
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>>123482426
>>123481471
>>123481434
I think it'll be Johanna then, I need a tank not another Murky.
I already have him, brought in the alpha and regreted it even when I was not playing.
Thanks anons.
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>>123482987
Johanna a best
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>>123483234
best slut
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>>123482987
Leoric is not like Murky. Leoric slows even in death, gains health back with drain hope and has two really good ults. Also the best escape in the game.
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>>123483234
best sjw piece of shit for sjw keks
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>>123483441

Pretty sure she's just a JW. Social doesn't seem her chosen battlefield.
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>>123483441
fucking femocracy screwing up our games. literally unplayable garbage sisnce that obvious feminist shill was added.
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>>123482728
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>>123483441
>Crusader
>social (you need more than 1 person for a crusade)
>justice (duh, she works for Tyrael)
>warrior (is a Warrior)

illuminati confirmed
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>>123483535
I think he was talking about the designated audience who have no problem battling in that battlefield.
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>>123483714
I don't follow.
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>>123481538
tfw no Optimus Prime Hero
Melee Warrior

Z: Truck mode: Transform into a truck. Instant. Not broken by damage.
D: Rollout: While in Truck form, activate to charge forward, dealing damage and knocking enemies hit back.

Q: Axe Cleave: slices the area in front of Optimus, causing enemies hit to bleed.
W: Roller: Summons Roller to repair damage, healing you while it is active.
E: Photon Blaster: Ranged attack on target. Low cooldown.

R1: Matrix of Leadership: Grants all allies in range damage and a shield
R2: Bombardment: Metroplex bombards the targeted area over several seconds.

Sample Talents:
Trailer: (D upgrade) Damage is increased by 150% and now stuns on knockback.
Energon Sword: (Q upgrade) Increases initial damage, but decreases the bleed
Spark of the Last Prime (R1 upgrade): When you take fatal damage, you gain 50% health and activate Matrix of Leadership. 180 second cooldown on this effect.
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>>123421195

Raynor is a good assasin but kaelthas is really fuking OP when you dont need to delete a heavy tank.

you should always go for kaelthas if he is free you fuking faggot I HOPE YOU DIE YOU PICK RAYNOR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>123483872
literally proved point
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>>123482728
its a sniper meme from dota
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>mfw people think that Artanis is a tank
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>3 supports.

Yeah this would be the only time to go Damage Monk.
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I want Sonya to fuck me silly
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>>123484591
>3 supports
>not already a death sentence
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>>123484684
Team Liquid is the one that chose it not me.
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>>123484591
I go damage tank when there is another support, especially if its medic
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>>123484091
DPS pick priorities:
1. Jaina (my queen)

2a. Kael (melee heavy)
2b. Raynor (tank heavy)

3. Valla if you couldn't get either of 2.
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MICRO GARG FOR NAZEEBO WHEN????
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>tfw you play a perfect game and win
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>>123485273
They would have to weaken it a lot and change the level 20 talent.
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Even while not playing Kael to his full potential, I still end up blowing up everyone so easily. Would this mean that he might get nerfed soon?
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>>123485515
Kael is weak as fuck compared to how he used to be, but he's still incredibly viable. There's not much more they can nerf on him.
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>>123485684
They can nerf the damage on chain bomb.
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>>123485515
nah he's ok as he is, having troubles with Kael? just focus him, same as Morales
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>>123486047
Because dealing 200 damage is so much to bronzies
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>>123485684
They sure as fuck can. Rework his talents so people don't all just build fission bomb and chain bomb because the combo is OP as fuck. Make them decide.
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>>123486047
>people still complaining about chain bomb
jesus christ how bad can you be?
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>>123484568
His shield helps, but yeah, he's the squishiest dedicated tank. Or just the tankiest assassin.
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>>123486076

Is Morales any good? I keep hearing people say she's worthless.

What's the issues? Too fragile?
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>>123486231
Other healers are better.
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>>123486231
She has powerful heals and can be a huge hassle for the other team when she's in the back, she just drains her mana almost instantly and doesn't have much utility to get away when being focused by the opposing team compared to, say, Uther.
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>>123486208
>>123486110
literally died nonstop to stun plus gorrilion of his damage last game
this trash must be nerfed hard
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>>123486208
>>123486110
He said there is nothing they can do to nerf Kael. I was just saying that they can nerf the damage on chain bomb.

I can totally see them making it so the spread of Chain Bomb reduces the damage by 50%. Don't think they will or should, but they can.
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Murky is the best hero in the game
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>>123486208

>someone asks about KT
>lol dude just press w and win ezpz, always pick kt

>someone mentions chain bomb is stupid
>whoa dude what the fuck it's perfectly fine, kt is a very balanced hero
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>>123486389
Stop sucking.
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>>123486389
B R O N Z E
R
O
N
Z
E
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>>123486389
Literally bronze. All his damage is so avoidable and counterable.
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>>123486589
Chain Bomb is fine now that it doens't jump to everything it hits.

Fission Bomb is the problem.
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>>123486389
stop being a retard and getting caught out
>>123486401
oh. I wasn't the original guy and misinterpreted what you meant. Of course you CAN nerf anyone, but the only hero that glaringly needs nerfs currently is Sonya
>>123486589
>hero is strong enough that people exaggerate his strength and ignore his weaknesses
>bronzies think he's literally uncounterable and call for nerfs
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>>123486774
>>123486620
>>123486629
>>123486686
just avoid his stun xDDD just avoid his gigantic aoes and pyroblast xDDD its easy xDDD
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>>123486905
Are you implying his stun and 1s cast time aoe and 4s cast time pyroblast are unavoidable?
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>>123486905
>just avoid his easily missed stun
>just avoid standing in the circle that takes 1 second to do anything
>just avoid being so low MMR that you're against Kaels that take bronze-o-blast
yes, and?
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>>123486343
>>123486368

Right. What would she need to be good? Lower mana cost on healing or making her a fair chunk tankier? (She IS in power armour)
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Is there a way to check your win percentage with other heroes on your team? Fairly certain I have at least a 90% loss rate when there's an Artanis on my team.
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>>123487047
if you ever make the mistake of picking any kind of melee hero then yes

What's with Blizzards hard on for making casters dominate melees at all levels of play no matter what the game anyways
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ITS HAPPENING!!

NOVA COMPETITIVE CONFIRMED, FUCK ALL YOU HATERS
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>>123487168
Tankier, sure.
But more utility really. I suppose a stun added to her grenade would let her get away better. Would make her a real thread in team fights if she could lob a grenade in and stun the enemy WHILE healing her team.
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Why is Anub'arak so squishy.
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>>123487386
>7 of the top ten masters rank heroes are melee
>of the 3 that are left, only 1 counts as a real caster
>casters dominate melees at all levels of play
what did he mean by this?

>>123487482
because he's a bug anon
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>>123487659
tanks =! melee
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>>123487659
>because he's a bug anon
No, he's a feature.
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>>123487715

They kinda are.

You should have said Melee Assassin if that's what you meant.
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>>123487423
inb4 mispick and redraft.
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>>123487715
that's still disregarding the fact that out of all of the top 10 heroes in masters rank HL, the only ones that are "casters" are Thrall (who is melee on his own) and Kael'thas. They don't dominate shit
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>>123488041
does thrall even count as a melee when everyone just uses nothing but chain lightning
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>>123487982
intentional pick

G2 is playing the 4v5 until Nova is at 30 GP stacks game right now

3 stacks and counting
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>>123486774
Sonya actually isn't as OP as she was before the balance changes. She's still really good but she doesn't crush everyone anymore.
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>>123487423
>Being destroyed.

Just like when those one fools picked Artanis.
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>>123488510
I still don't get why Artanis is in the game like he is. If you wanted a semi tanky dude with decent damage, why not just pick Diablo who has way better CC
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Sexy johanna skin WHEN?
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>>123488190
the fact that chain lightning build is a thing is the only reason I consider him a caster desu.
If everyone still rolled windfury he'd still be melee, just with a little ranged poke
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>>123488693
you mean her base skin?
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>>123488610
I like Artanis. He treads the line between tank and assassin.
He's pretty shit in the early game, but I've always done well in the late game once Twin Blades gets the three hits talent and the charge.
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>try to watch the Dreamhack match
>display drivers crash every 2 seconds for some reason
>tune in to any other stream
>no issue
>tune in to the dreamhack again but post-match commentary
>no issue

huh
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>>123488693
she's too pure for that, anon, sorry
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>>123488693
Why does she need sexy skin when she has Mary Elizabeth McGlynn's sexy voice?
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>>123488610
He's supposed to be a great dueler and damage dealer, but they fucked him up hard.

>Lowest attack range in the game.
>No chasing/disengage mechanic till lvl 16.
>Doesn't deal damage until lvl 16.
>Terrible walk speed.
>E is useless out of team fights when you want to displace someone.
>Q is useless out the few running kills or lowering shields.
>His trait will keep him alive for a little longer but it won't help till late game.

He has a power spike at 16 with Zealot Charge but by then a lot of the times it's pointless. You've already lost because you have Artanis.

There is no point to pick him when people like Thrall or Sonya exist. Fuck even Butcher would be better.
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>>123416558
>level 18vs14
even abathur could melee those fuckers at that level
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>>123488693
>We will never get Akkhan's Armor set in the game.
>>
Speaking of Artanis, after just looking at his abilities I thought the laser ultimate would be trash, really surprised me to see that's the one everyone takes.
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>buy Sonya
>win

Not really that accurate, but she is a lot more forgiving than Valla ever was.
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>>123489506
It's too weak to kill a tank, it's far too slow to be worth it on an assassin, but it is good for chasing a healer away.
The flash just doesn't do enough damage to be worth it.
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>>123489506
if your team has good stuns or slows, the laser is a guaranteed kill against heroes with big hitboxes
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>>123474626
They're not called champs you colossal faggot
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>>123489506
It's a good way to force a support or assassin to disengage, andit allows you to contribute to a teamfight from all the way across the map. Plus, with the lvl20 upgrade and a mosh pit or mass root it can wipe an entire team.
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>>123489664
>using Suppression for the damage

what the actual fuck?
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>>123489412
is that ps2 game?
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>>123489812
The blind is pretty useless, too.
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>>123489846
No it's Diablo 3. An isometric game. It normally looks like this.
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>ETC self-heal gets a buff
>it heals for a decent amount now
>one patch later
>healing amount is secretely halved, it's now even lower than it was before
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Any pro tips on playing Chen? Like should I chug even if I'm at full bar and taking damage?
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>>123489881
It isn't useless, per se, it's just extremely situational. It can win teamfight singlehandedly against heavy auto attack comps. Purifier Beam is just more useful 99% of the time.
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>>123489881
>long ass AOE blind is useless in every situation
fuck people like you
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>>123489936
>paragon 123
>can't into T1
topkek
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>>123490045
It really depends. You just got to get a feel for it. If your laning vs someone that can't interrupt you an just chug like crazy and get your pokes in and you'll win out. After lvl 7 it plays a bigger role because of Brewmaster's Balance.
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>>123489936
Is game still worth buying for $40? Been having fun with the demo but the community seems dead.
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>>123490241
Its dead, the patch and new season will revive it for a while. If you enjoy some item farming with 0 depth you might get your money's worth
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>>123490141
I don't know, I just goggled Diablo 3 and it was there.
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>>123490241
buy in when season 5 starts, that's when the game becomes active again, right now just the tryhard 2k+ paragon people are playing
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Nova is proof that a good face > good body
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>>123490083
>Purifier Beam is just more useful 99% of the time.
Its only useful if the enemy team doesnt have right clickers
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>>123490449
but she has neither?
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>>123490241
I like it. It's more lively at the start of seasons and the next season is adding a lot to the game. If you've been enjoying it I'd say go for it.

You can find people to play it on the occasional /vg/ thread or reddit where the community is still pretty alive at.
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>>123490507
Crotch and legs are significant, chest is armored
I'd say she's average body, just saying her face is shite and she's the worst waifu
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>>123490450
I think you're seriously underestimating how useful Beam is.
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>>123490241
it's garbage. hots has better pve and pvp
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>>123484568
>mfw when I play lotv and artanis is a total badass with cool abilities
>mfw he sucks in hots
Why didn't they give him blinkstorm that would have been sweet
>>
LE IMPATIENT SPACE MAN BUFFS WHERE
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>>123490889
They said they just started discussions on how to buff him. One idea they liked was turning him into a tank killer.
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>uther is the best support
lol?
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>>123489064
>people think butcher is bad
He's really good desu. Everyone thinks he's bad because most people charge into the battle and die. You have to come from the side at their backline. You can kill a support or assassin in seconds and just waddle away. Not to mention boss takes like 10 seconds when you're smacking for 500s
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>>123491334

lol you posted it again!!!
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>>123490230

Also when should I use Keg or SEF?
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>>123491514
but this is a new game, showing uther is still not good today, he wasn't good yesterday either
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>>123491334
...You actually think the supports were the deciding factor in that game?

Look at tychus and zeebos siege damage
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Where is the report and mute button for this afk piece of shit

everyone else in this team had the option available
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>>123491528
Storm, Earth and Fire is better 99% of the time and you use it when you think you are in danger or are trying to body block someone.
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>>123491618

same shit every time, never anything else

change the record you autist
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>>123491624
WATCH OUT, UTHER BABIES IN FULL DENIAL MODE
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>>123491760

Really? Keg can disrupt enemy lines and push back supports/assassins from your team.
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>>123491334
he's only good when he's bailing out kael or jaina
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>>123491334
>small amounts of passive, healing over time is always better then burst, triage healing

lmao?
>>
>enjoy playing uther as a not-hard support by getting the stunniest build possible
>eventually reach level 12
>love the masterskin and buy it

And now I never use it
because whenever we're not winning by a landmile, my team will look at me, say
>look at this faggot, he didn't get cleanse! He didn't get divine shield! he didn't get shrink! why does this fucker have a masterskin, am I right guys?

suffering
I do get cleanse, divine shield or shrink situationally, just not every game because some games just dont have enough cc/important targets to justify getting them
>>
is this game and thread still alive senpai?
>>
>>123491863
Yeah and it only works in special circumstances. A lot of the time it's just used in a pointless spot.

Both ults are good, but Storm, Earth and Fire gives you two life bars and better sustain during fights.
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>>123491934

>not automatically taking cleanse / divine shield / shrink ray regardless

really now, sometimes I wonder why we have autists whose sole contribution to the thread is "uther is shit lelelele am I funny yet"
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>>123491934
>people who think Uther needs to get cleanse every single game because muh 8 buttons
no, that shitty slow isn't worth cleansing off you when I could just set up kills with Burden of Guilt stuns
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>>123491040
>One idea they liked was turning him into a tank killer.
I really don't know how this would work in practice

One option is to give him percentile-based damage but then he would still be useless in team fights, focusing the tank while the rest of the team kills the important targets
The other option is that he gives you some debuff that allows you to blow up tanks as a team but that seems too overpowered

Whats wrong with just giving him better damage
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>>123491894
>bw
>throw on speed + block charges, throw on a big shield with phase shift, throw out some blink heals and then constantly aoe heal everyone every 2 seconds
>then polymorph someone and make them take increased damage

>uther
>throw out dinky heal
>throw out your other dinky-er heal
>stun someone for a second (lol)
>LOL INVULN THAT DOES NOTHING IMPORTANT

pick one
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>>123492213
I pick uther
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>>123492213
Uther
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>>123492213
more like
>uther
>stun someone for a second (lol)
>stun someone for a second (lol)
>stun everyone for 1.5 seconds (lol)
>hit the target
>stun someone for a second (lol)
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>>123492115
Shrink Ray I agree with but, Cleanse most of the time isn't even worth it. Also just because people in ESPORTS set up SICK MLG PRO PLATS BROUGHT TO YOU BY DORITOS with Divine Shield doesn't make it the best all the time either, especially in pugs where after being saved by the shield they think "OH FUCK I'M INVINCIBLE TIME TO KILL EVERYONE" and dive back in.
>>
>>123491703
if they don't have a mute/report function, they're hots GMs, legit, not even kidding, you can't report mods
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>>123492094

I see, so use SEF on low hp right? And it's interruptible too right?
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>>123492213

>LOL INVULN THAT DOES NOTHING IMPORTANT

This is seriously what brightwing players believe
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>>123492338
more like
>brightwing
>heal
>polymorph uther
>heal
>burst him down while he...
>heal
>...takes increased damage
>heal
>chase retard down with pixie dust
>heal
>phase shift shield
>heal
>blink heal
>win
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>>123491934
remember the good ol' days when Uther could take Divine Storm and not have his entire team bitch at him

I blame esports
>>
>blightwings
>utheruses
step aside, plebeians, for tyrande is the only true support
>>
>>123492658

We get it. You're bad at the game. You can stop shitposting now before you embarrass yourself anymore.
>>
>>123492749
Tyrande isnt even a real support
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>>123492820
>>
>>123492658
post hotdogs
1 game doesn't mean shit

unless you're shitposting by cherrypicking ONE game out of the thousands where Uther is better
>>
>>123493139
I post a game where we see uther sucking almost every day, you're just delusional
>>
>>123493234
>posting the same screenshot each day
>thinks it's a different game

bro what?
>>
>>123492495
This sack of shit was just afk and disconnect/reconnecting
when he was in game we were 4v5 because he was sat behind the bot walls while the enemy would just rotate around the rest of us
>>
>>123493234
I can post infinite more games of a Kael doing dick fuck all does that mean Kael sucks as well?
>>
>virtus pro takes Morales and a bunch of heroes who don't do anything in the early game
>lets the enemy have Sonya, ETC and Jaina

yeah thats how you lose

also is anyone looking forward to the next shitposter who is going to spend every waking moment declaring stitches is better than muradin based off cherrypicked matches and his own high functioning autism
>>
>>123492545
It's only interrupt-able at the very beginning of the animation. Before he gets in the barrel.
>>
>>123493508
>2k hero better than 10k
dont fool yourself kid
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bets
>>
>>123493721
You are fucked due to the Cho+Abba meme. And your profile image sucks
>>
>>123493721

Red, on the grounds of having more than 2 bodies who can actually afford to be seen by the enemy.
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>>123493721
>abby
>cho'gall
>moralesbian
all on rblue
>>
>>123493721
blue because you cant split push into core on this map
>>
>>123493721
I saw Abathur and Cho and almost immediately said red but then I realized its Towers AKA the one map that lanes don't matter at all so Blue
>>
>>123493721
should be nova if it's close
>>
>About to buy Earthbreaker skin

:^)
>>
>>123493983
>not Hellhammer

literally laughing my ass off in real life out loud at the moment family
>>
>>123494098

literally the worst thrall skin
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>>123494345
>>123494098
>Not Master Thrall
Literally lmaoing my ass off right now
>>
>>123494345
literally just end yourself irl
>>
>>123494098

Hellhammer would be better if Thrall wasn't constantly looking off to one side like a distracted child
>>
>>123494470
>He likes Master Thrall

fuck off Metzen
>>
>>123494782
Remembering how Metzen is still the one to voice Thrall in every game he has ever been in added some weight to that "Oh, how I miss real time strategy..." poke quote.
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>>123493784
>>123493791
>>123493829
>>123493841
>>123493857
>>123493902

welp i tried my best

aba had no idea what to play aba
ill post his build next
>>
>>123495328
>actually trying
I would have just reported the chogalls and left
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>>123495328
im not aba player but this cannot be right
>>
>>123495328

>top damage and most kills on your team

Yeah, seems you had a shit deal and rolled with it. Ah well, next time eh?
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>>123495483
>>
>>123495521
yah its qm casino, anything can happen
>>
>>123495689
That really looks like HL
>>
>Pro game ends before 1 team fight
>Heroes of the snore
>>
>picking Loss.Moraleshit and expecting to win
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>yfw this is Jimmy.
>>
Is Chen any good in HL? (If the enemy team has almost no cc)
>>
>>123496307
GIVE EM SOME PEPPER
>>
>>123496307
he-hey man
>>
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>Losing in HL cause of retards
>Get mad and start calling them shit (when they are)
>They say "It's just a game"
>In fucking ranked
People like this need to be sterilized and then fucking lobotomized
>>
>>123496494

He's decent. Not brilliant and especially not against heavy CC but he's a strong counter to mages and no-mobility peeps nowadays because the scaling changes means he doesn't have as much of a bad time before 7
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>>123496307
he-hey man

>also, Vulture mount when, Blizzard please, i bought all the starcraft games, i wanna have a sherif Raynor on Vulture mount
>>
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>
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>Last guy in HL says "Oh good gonna heal noobs"
>Goes AFK and says nothing
>spam "you gonna heal or not?"
>Choose tyrande cause saftey
>fucking chooses malfurion
>>
Why they wear double headphones on dreamhack?
>>
>>123497398
earphones for sound
the big headset thing is actually industrial sound muffler
>>
new

>>123497832
>>123497832
>>123497832
>>
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>this is your teammate
>he's playing the uther in your hl
>he's specing battle uther
>if there was a voice chat he'd be screaming at you while he 1v5s their tower 2 minutes into the game
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>mfw these guys told me rexxar is a bad tank before the game started
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