/shmupg/ - SHMUP and STG General

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Hello new /shmupg/ thread!

https://www.mediafire.com/?48812jiax8m1c
This is the link to download all those shmup games and stuff I think. I haven't tried it yet but I remember someone last thread saying that it should be posted in the OP of the next thread. it's not the OP but first post isn't bad I think.

>>123296281
>Mushihimesama released on steam
lol wtf

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https://youtu.be/owZreqQpg8s

Jesus christ have you guys seen this? Even disregarding the retarded review, how did he play with the screen all stretched and think "this is ok".

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>>123298890
You're late to the party, friend.

>>123300532
>mfw
Oh, wow.

>>123300532
God damn, that's magical.

>>123300532
Good fucking god
I feel even more dead inside than before!

>>123300532
Yeah, it's a classic.
I thought he might end up deleting it.

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>>123300532
oh god

>>123296281
We should get a cool reco list for various platforms, especially Steam. There are some real fun gems out there. I really like Jamestown a whole helluva lot.

Noob here
When do you play for 1cc, and when for score? Should you go for score after managing 1cc, or what?

>>123308608
I consider them separate goals. You can go for a 1cc first, but if you want to start scoring later you're most likely going to have to relearn everything anyway.

>>123308608
That depends on what you want to do. If you feel like learning to play for score, I'd suggest learning that first, as otherwise you may have to unlearn your earlier survival strats.

>>123309157
>>123309802
What do you mean? How does playing for score differ?

I'm playing Parodius Nonsense Fantasy atm, if that can serve as an example

>>123310174
To score effectively you need to be intimately familiar with the game.

>>123308608
If you are new to STGs i would definitely try survival first to hone your skillset, getting that first 1cc is a gr8 feel

>>123310174
Scoring can involve more aggressive and involved playstyle as opposed to trying to diminish the danger you're in to no miss.

Ultimately I wouldn't worry about it unless you really, REALLY enjoy a game and want to learn how to get a high score,

>>123308608

I play for both, honestly.

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Did anyone get the torrent on kickass for Mushihimesama? Microsoft Security Essentials keeps detecting the crack as Dynamer!ac. Anyone know if it's real or a false positive? The guy isn't an official uploader so that's why I'm asking.

Also, before someone crucifies me, I already bought the game. The thing is I am on vacation away from my main computer, and Steam doesn't want to run on my secondary computer.

>>123308608
I play for survival most of the time but knowing how to score can often help in the form of power ups or more lives so I pick up enough about scoring on the way to help my run

there hasnt really been a game Ive been good enough at to really go straight for a scoring run

>>123313426
just dl the mame pack

>>123313426
MAME would be your best bet unless you absolutely need to play Arrange or 1.5

>>123315607
>>123318270
Alright, thanks. I'll just go with that then.

>he still isn't using the superiour thread
laughing_whores.gif

>>>/vr/2792825

>>123308608
I usually incorporate some of the easier scoring strats into survival play, but it depends on the game honestly.

>>123305923
I'd be down for that.

>tfw making progress

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fuck this boss so much

>>123329382

iktfvwmf

>>123329382
But why? It looks cool.

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Crimzon clover stage 3 is kicking my ass. I'm considering dropping down to novice.

send help

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>>123334649
Don't give up anon. Ganbatte your best!

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>>123334649
>dropping down to novice.
Where is your dignity anon? Your spirit?

>>123337772
I'm just closing my head, waiting for Darius

>>123145217
>Captain Neo
>Rushing into Next Zone
That takes me back

>>123334649
Believe in yourself.... Also that boss is a fucker good luck with that.

>>123334649
Stage 3 of Crimzon Clover is a huge difficulty spike. You're going to be practicing for a while.

>>123334649
>he's still playing CCWI when Mushy's on Steam
get with the times faggot-kun

>>123348158
cc is better than mushi1

mushi2 is my fav all time though

Dariusburst gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4jD6AILz3U

>>123350207
So, is this a completely different from Darius Burst on PSP?

>>123350265
According to ANN this actually a port of the psp game but with new stuff.

>>123313426

False positives don't exist in the world of downloaded games, there exists only true positives and positives that went by undetected

Good morning /shmupg/.

If fighting game players call themselves warriors what are we?

>>123350826
pilots? (or magical girls)

>>123350826
Pilots, witches and espers.

>>123350826
space helicopters

>>123350826
Pilots, I guess. Even when it comes to lolis. "Piloting a loli" somehow just sounds like it works to me.

>>123300532
>it doesn't look like 720p
holy lol this dude

You guys did buy Strania right?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/407380

>>123355962

No because I'm a poorfag.

>>123300532
i wish i had a bug princess girlfriend

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>>123356983
>I don't have 12 dollars

>>123355962

I'm a weird specimen that only plays on caves

Gonna pick Guwange and Daifukkatsu, already ordered, new stick too.

How much do you think the new Darius would cost?, I should save a bit for it.

>>123355962
I'm already working on too many shmups right now, I cant buy anymore.

>>123355962
I'll get it if this job pulls through, otherwise I'll have to stick to what I have or can easily obtain for free.

>>123290139
fuck that just made my practice much more effective

We should discuss something guise, inane as it could be, in case the thread gets pruned.

So tell me, I mentioned in other thread that the spiderkitty from guwange is my favourite enemy ever. What's yours? A boss? A popcorn enemy? Your wife?

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Mushihimesama patch just in time for my daily credits.

V1.1.3.0
>Changed the V1.5 BGM to better quality version
>Addition of the My Rank feature to Leaderboard
>Displaying score over rank 100
>Removal of the monthly score option
>Local ranking data and stage highsocre have been added to the save
>Today's score is reset every time the game is stopped.
>Pressing button B (or X on keyboard) change to the local ranking display.
>Correction for glitches happening sometimes during Training mode
>Correction to the graphic glitches happening on Arrange Stage 4
>Correction to the startup process to prevent crash happening on some machines
>Correction to the crash happening when showing friend ranking

>>123369986
Let's talk about how there's nothing to talk about. Shmups are exciting to play but there's little to say about them in general and that you have to constantly necro and hamhandedly introduce inane topics of discussion just proves it.

>>123370398

Or maybe we are autistic robots unable to socialize, think about it, entire days spent making a numerical value grow.

>>123370736
>think about it, entire days spent making a numerical value grow.
Sounds like the average working adult.

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>>123370367
>161 MB
What a patch.

>>123371207

High quality music for 1.5

>>123370367
>mushihime-026.jpg
That is an adorable figurine.
Now maybe I can listen to 1.5 music without my ears hurting.

There's another thread on /v/ and also one on full-chan's /v/.

>>123374043
But that site is in japanese

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>>123300532
>I can't put my finger on it but something's off

>>123370367
>Fixed 1.5 music

Ty Cave

Any gud game on sale, /shmupg/?

>>123381031

Mushihimesama is on sale if you don't have it

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>>123381357

Already got it senpai.

What about this one?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/280560/

In the interest of brevity, here's just a link. http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Shoot%20%27Em%20Up/#p=0&tab=Discounts

On the list of stuff that's on sale that I would rec:

>Mushihimesama
>Crimzon Clover
>Metal Slug pack
>Ikaruga
>Raiden IV
>Luftrausers
>Revolver360 Re:Actor
>Danmaku Unlimited 2
>eXceed 2nd
>eXceed 3rd
>Kamui
>Deltazeal
>Zenohell
>RefleX
>QP Shooting ~ Dangerous

If there's any other horis on Steam that someone would rec, I'm not usually big on them but I'm willing to give 'em a shot.

>>123382024
Only played a bit of Danmaku Unlimited 2, and it seemed cool. Can't really argue with snatching that up for $1.

Turn them icons on, son.

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>>123382108
>already have a big backlog of shmups
>not too good so cant just blast through them
>now this
I will never be done at this rate.

>strania came out today with 20% off sale
>now it's 40% off sale even though it hasn't even been out for a day
amazing

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>>123386697
Now I REALLY want to jump on Strania, but how's the port? If there's issues, I expect they'll be looked at and worked on soon enough.

>>123388676
Apparantly there is a bug where the game will crash due to a sound related bug (probably only on windows 8, I had a similar issue for two other games that just crashed on w8 due to something sound related but they work fine on other version of windows including 10)
Other than that it seems to be fine and the devs are looking to fix the crash bug aswell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfbBtDWL878
DBCS is looking nice.

>>123389130
audio quality seems a bit bad but that's probably the recording right?

>>123388992
I got Windows 7, but it's good to hear that G.rev is on the case with OS-related issues.

>>123390086
Well I don't know if that's the case (don't have the game yet), I was just guessing.
Going to buy the game in a few minutes and find out myself.

hows the the arranged soundtrack dlc for crimzon clover? its currently on discount.

>>123382108
I'd recommend SATAZIUS and maybe Gundemonium, if you're into hori bullet hell.

>>123391935
It's pretty shit, but there's youtube videos of someone playing with it on so you cna try it out

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Mushihimesama got a pretty massive update today, fixing bugs but more importantly fixing the music in v1.5 and adding in Local Score saving. I'd say it's pretty much perfect now.

>>123348490
No it's not. CC Unlimited is boring as fuck with bullet-cancel spam everywhere and a lame scoring system. Mushi 1.5 Ultra MAX is good but not one of Cave's best titles.

>>123389665
Dont worry anon, we're all telling ourselves that.

>>123389130
I dont know, it looks just a tiny little bit low-quality. But the gameplay looks solid at least.

Newb here. I am playing Mushi. Holy shit this game is great Graphics is amazing. Anime girl is qt. 10/10 would shill again.

>>123402430
Futari reco is cuter tbqh

I want to cum inside Reco-chan's soft butt, /shmupg/!

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>>123402430
>>123403112
>>123403167
Remember: no pantsu

>>123403167
Thanks, I missed /jp/ posting.

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>oh boy run's really good mayb-
>lose 3 lives in a row

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Why aren't you fags playing Bee Storm?

>>123406048
Bosses too cheap

>>123406048
I am. But I keep screwing up on the TLB after getting to him with 1-2 lives.

>>123402430
Glad you like it.

>>123406048
Can't stand listening to it.

>>123405181
>what is the last part of every stage 3 ever

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>>123405181

Level 4, PCB. Half the time.

>>123405181
It's always the last stage, too, just so the knife twists the most.

>>123405181
>>123414451
>no miss first 4 stages of Mushi Original
>die 3 times on stage 5

>>123403167
/jp/ please

is solar shifter ex any good or should i get ikaruga?

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Soon...

>>123419081
Ikaruga is a glorified puzzle game disguised as a shmup. I wouldn't recommend it.

>>123391935
I liked it, but wouldn't recommend getting it unless you're really sick of the normal music, can't listen to external music with winamp or whatever, and really want to spend money.

>>123424167
I love this meme.

>>123424287
I can kind of see it. You match 3 colors in Ikaruga and a lot of puzzle games involve matching up 3 colors. It's still a shmup because you're shooting them to match them but there are puzzle elements. Saying it's a puzzle game is hyperbole.

>>123425000
Finding the optimal scoring path in every shmup makes them a puzzle game

Treasure shmup players: tee-ball.
YGW shmup players: home run derby.

>>123425268
Only if your scoring system is as mind-numbingly predictable and boring as Ikaruga's.

>enemy floats in
>shoot in the order we want you to
>enemies you can't kill float away, lest you get punished
>RSG/Ikaruga scoring in a nutshell

Might as well go solve a Rubik's cube, would be far more fun than a credit of Ikaruga.

>>123425457
Thanks memexak

>>123425719
Ikaruga is anything but predictable, the opposite in fact. Every encounter requires precision that can't be predicted, while other shmups scoring can be broken down into general statements like 'point blank', 'chain' or 'use specific shot when x'.

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>>123300532

>>"I have dainty little girl hands."

I bet, you pasty fucking neckbeard fedora-wearing weeaboo faggot. This is some real turbo-cringe shit. And this is coming from a guy that can't do any better than a MUSHA Normal Mode 1CC and Crimzon Clover Novice Mode 1CC.

>>123424287
its kind of deserved. I like the polarity concept and they could have done a lot of cool things scoring-wise with it but instead we got stupid match 3 scoring.

>>123426316
Enemy placement and AI are static as fuck. And the bosses aren't even good to make up for the shitty mooks in Ikaruga.

>>123419081
Did you decide which one you were getting?

>>123432729
leaning towards solar shift ex atm

HOLY SHIT THIS GENERAL IS REAL?

>>123439781
Yes

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>>123426316
>Ikaruga is anything but predictable
I broke my burnt disc I had for my Dreamcast of Ikaruga. It's a shit game and I wanted to make sure no one else ever had that game inflicted upon.
8/10 b8 genuine rage

>>123441174
I'm surprised because I can't remember the last time anyone showed interest on /vg/ for shmups. Taking a break from long vidya so arcade style fitan/stg is what I float back to. Now I have another reason to leave /tg/ every now and then.

>>123441479
There actually used to be shmup generals on /vg/ a year or two ago.
We're back from the dead, basically.

>>123441595
I imagine the emergence of things on Steam has helped. Just picked up Mush like most people it seems, very fun. I still think Futari is better but I never got around to actually "beating" it or getting close to a 1CC so my opinion is invalid.

>>123441479
This general is pretty slow but the new dariusburst will probably bring some life to it.

>>123443273
It'll bring some life to my pants if you know what I mean

>>123350265
>>123350542
Looks like you can reverse the ship to shoot backwards, like good old Darius II.

Pretty sure that wasn't a thing you could do in Darius Burst for PSP.

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Why are people so hostile against bullet hells? I keep seeing things like pic related and "danmaku babbies" being thrown around.

>>123448926
It's mostly just grandpa's being mad that danmaku is more popular than old-school shmups. /vr/ is an especially good example of this.

>>123448926
>hold us in the past
2004 to be exact

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>>123448926
Bullet hells are shmups with no level design and more artificial difficulty.

>>123454598
if you ever played a decent bullet hell you would know that there is level design (when they're not cave tlbs). Of course it is easy to just put bullets everywhere, but that's not what a good bullet hell does, it is not easy to do it in a way that creates diverse patterns that are challenging but at the same time reasonably doable.
>artifical difficulty
these are videogames, anon....

>>123448926
You got baited
>>123454598
The bullets and enemy placement are the level design

don't let shmups die

>>123386697
I only see it on 20% sale?

>>123448926
It's just "what I like > what you like" left unchecked. Welcome to shmups.

I am pretty terrible at shmups but I want to pick them up. What should I start with?
ikaruga or mushihimesama?

>>123462024
mushi, ikaruga is pretty difficult

>>123462024
Anything you like. Those are both good games; try Crimzon Clover and Eschatos as well for PC shmups. Touhou is also a good pick with its difficulty options.

>>123461645
Seems like the boosted sale was a temporary glitch. I managed to snag it during the -40%.

Picked me up sum pc shmups and 360 titles today, gonna be fun, yos.

How's Astebreed? Is it even a shmups?

>>123462024
I'd recommend Crimzon Clover myself

>>123462781
>How's Astebreed? Is it even a shmups?
I've heard good things, at least. Why wouldn't it be? It's just perspective changing.

>>123462781
Yes, it's still a shmup.

Still no word on Darius pricing, this seems fishy

>>123465717
I'm just worried that it might flop.

At least it won't be as buggy as Mushi, I hope.

Hey, /shmupg/. Is it enough to record shmup gameplay at 30 FPS? I know it looks better with 60, but I don't have enough money for upgrading my PC at the moment.

>>123468004
If that's what you can do, that's what you can do.

Why didn't you tell me that Resurrection was amazing, shmupg?
I was barely able to deal with it.

>>123470721
Because I didnt know either. What makes it so amazing?

>>123450645
>bottom pic is 12 year old game
>top pic was released this year

Your grandpa theory is embarrassing how many times do I have to shoot it down?

>>123454752
If you ever played a decent non-bullet hell you would know there is more to level design than bullets.

>>123468004
If you upload an .inp I could record it for you and upload it to https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp2e9X5tR9BLdSlIGjzftDA or whatever channel you want me to.

>>123462781
It's... fine?
It's weird. The first time you play you'll be curious about how much it's investing into the storyline, but at a certain point it gets like BlazBlue and everyone is just talking too much. The changing perspective shtick is nice tho.

Speaking of 360 I need to get back on Akai Katana and Deathsmiles. And get a 360 stick 'cuz fuck pad.

>>123471129

The gameplay anon, specifically black label.

strania is pretty neat, stage one being slow as fuck is my only issue.

>>123471736
That won't do, The game I want to record does not have a replay system, so I'll need to record while playing.

>>123471428
>dodge these square blocks while you move your ship

>>123478796
Yeah its a good looking game.

>>123483657
Being unable to think except in terms of hitboxes is a sign of brain damage caused by overexposure to STG cult.

>>123484453
wow, you gave him

>>123484453
Saltiest meme I've seen in awhile. When talking about the only level design there is, what he said is true.

>>123484850
As I said brain damage.

pls dont die

What the fuck is going on with /gsg/ in the catalogue?

>>123406048
Just got the EX-ALL at last with 1.9bil score. I know it's shit, but a clear's a clear.

I...have no idea how to react to Muchi Muchi Pork. This game is really strange for a shmup.

>>123485379
>anon you have brain damage for thinking in terms of level design when talking about level design

Who brain damage this is?

>>123484453

He's still butthurt over his game not being considered a shmup

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Should I buy Sine More, fa'milia?

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>buy suguri because of the steam sale
>tfw can't even beat stage 3 on easy modo

>>123501130
Have you already played the demo? Depending on your preference, you may like or dislike it because of the stuff it offers.

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Am I missing critical anything guys?

>>123501130
Literal kusoge. DO NOT GET

>>123504993
Eschatos
Judgement Silversword
XIIZeal
DeltaZeal

>>123499321
I hope you're being ironic because parsing the post that way confirms you have brain damage.

>>123500506
Shmups as defined by STG cult is like art defined by artworld. Congratulations on playing only the Artist's Shits of shmups.

>>123504993
Strania - The Stella Machine is also good, done by guys involved in Ikaruga with a Radiant Silvergun feel to its weapons.

>>123497468
What's so strange about it? It's just a bunch of pig girls flying around. Hardly the strangest thing I've seen.

>tfw you want to play shmups but are too lazy to rotate your monitor

>>123517023
Since I'm using a laptop, I can't rotate it. That and I'm also rather later.

>>123506570
Family, nuclear throne isn't a shmup and you need to accept that, this boogeyman mentality isn't healthy for you. Wake up sheeple.

>>123517554
I'm guessing you don't want to acknowledge NT as a shmup even though it clearly is for the same reason many don't want to acknowledge video games as art even though they clearly are, you want to separate the profane from the sacrosanct and NT is profane to the STG cult for not meming the sacred memes.

Does this nigga really think this game is a shmup? jej

http://store.steampowered.com/app/242680/

>>123522814
You know what'd be really jej if you justified your shitposting with ideas.

nuclear throne plays like a shitty version of crimsonland

Any good artbooks?

>>123504993
alltynex, refleX, kamui

Good: Mushihime-sama 1.5
Decent: Crimzon Clover
Shit: everything else

>>123526812
That's a rather narrow list anon, you sure you dont want to put more games into at least Decent tier?

>>123526812
Why are you only listing steam games anon?

Mushi and Crimzon Clover are decent but they're not that good compared to other games.

>>123529909
crimson clover is best shmup all time... IDIOT

>>123529909
Probably forgot to quote the guy that asked what steam games he was missing.

>>123530168
Oh, you're probably right. Carry on then, nothing seems wrong anymore.

>>123530131
Fuck off you stupid flower. Play a real man's weeaboo shooter like Hellsinker.

>>123530946
more like hell STINKER... was wondering what that smell was

>>123531032
At least I don't smell like daisies you raging faggot.

>>123519302
Senpai I hope for your sake you are trying to bait and are not upset now, laffin tbqh

>>123524929
not him but should I bother with the full alltynex series or just kamui?

>>123532175
which do u like more swords or lightning

>>123533043
lightning

>>123533228
do w/e who am i to decide another mans fate

>>123533481
that still doesn't answer my main question though, i guess i can rephrase it.
are the previous games worth it in addition to kamui?

>>123504993
eXceed 2nd vampire rex

>>123534247
Just do it mate, then you can tell us if it's worth it!

>tfw no arcade to play shmups in

>>123534247
Kamui and Alltynex Second are both great, didn't enjoy RefleX as much however but it's still good.

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>tfw DEGiCA is doing Mushi Futari next instead of superior SDOJ or Ibara

>>123543837
to be fair, I think futari will profit much more as a game from the steamrelease, because the low counterstop can be fixed

>>123543837
futari is the best cave game

tho i dnt really care what comes out since i wasted my money on all the xbox 360 games anyway

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Do we have a steam group or something, my african-american associates?

>>123534247

Grab Kamui and Alltynex Second.

>>123544036
The purpose of a port isn't to fix problems with the original, it's to replicate it as closely as possible. They nearly completely broke Mushi's scoring system on the steam version trying to do the same thing.

>>123545009
and why shouldn't they fix actualy problems?!

Alright, I can't find it at all.

I'm looking for a doujin shmup that took forever to be released, had stuff like a version 0.5 and 0.7 happen in comikets, and released 1.0 like 3-4 years ago.
To get patches you needed to go on their website and punch in part of the score on the back cover of the game box.
I have no idea what it is, but I need it in my life again.
I don't think I ever found the patches beyond 1.0 either, no one leaked them.

>>123543837

Have they pronounced themselves, actually? I was hoping for Daiffukatsu Black Label

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When are we getting Raiden 1 and 2 ports not by DotEmu?

>>123543837
I hope not. I'm expecting Deathsmiles or a Dodonpachi. More bugs would be a bit stale even though Futari is probably my favorite.

https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?nick=Anon?&theme=cli#shmups

new shmups irc channel for the people that post in the /vg/, /vr/, and /v/ shmup threads

>>123545172
Because they've had 9 years to come out with a version 1.55 or whatever, but didn't. Even when the 360 port came out, they left it as is. If they make changes now, on one platform that accounts for a fraction of their userbase, it will be completely irrelevant to any serious players because the standard is always set by the arcades.

>>123544373
>futari is the best cave game
Lol, no. Ketsui is their magnum opus.

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>>123545414
Stellavanity? I have 1.22, it's almost 3 years since the release, I think it's about time to share it. But unfortunately lately the author just released new game, pic related. He's kind of ill tempered, I don't want him to cancel it.
If you can't wait for another year, you can buy it here http://www.dlsite.com/eng/work/=/product_id/RE091855.html

>>123549301
Thank you, I just found it like an hour ago through some ancient popularity vote in system11
You don't have to share it, I found it on a blog just now, after you told me what the latest version was. I might buy it eventually.

Dariusburst store page up, bumpin'

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Anybody play Caladrius? Is it gud?

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>>123549301
What a mess. Looking at that makes me sick.

>>123558548
Yeah, it's awesome. Shot + 3 special shots is really fun. I bought it for the clothes destruction, but the gameplay is good. Can't wait for the PC port since I hardly play on ps3 anymore.

What platform should a new player start on? Emulate MAME? SNES? Play PC games?

>>123563802
New players have to get through the gauntlet of Battle Garegga on MAME.

>>123563802

Platform of choice as long as it has games, 360 has the cave games among other things, pc has some games, dunno about ps3

>>123564397
>360 has the cave games among other things, pc has some games
This fucking community...

>>123565407

I'm only mentioning legal things anon, I'm the moralfag

>>123569448
Wasn't he talking about PCBs?

>>123569513
I'm talking about the platform with the most and best games being an afterthought to CAVE. If you own PCBs kill yourself.

>>123571207
I thought you were just memeing about

we're dying again. I can't let that heppen.

We should just move the thread to /jp/ again family

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>>123572986
jaypee sucks and you can tell them i said that.

>>123572986
Why? There's nothing inherently Japanese about shmups.

>>123573405
There's nothing inherently Japanese about Rhythm games but there is a general on /jp/

>>123572986
You sure you want to move the threads to the jay? Those guys are really weird.

>>123573553
The only rhythm games being discussed there are bemani games though

>>123576470
Its mostly bemani yeah, just like how this thread is mostly JP shmups

>>123573405
>Nearly every WR is held by a Japanese player
>Nearly every decent shmup ever made comes from Japan
>Pretty much the only country that still has an active arcade community which includes shmup-players
>Almost every company that focused on releasing shmups came from Japan

How are shmups not Japan related? Shmups, together with rhythm and fighting games share some unique Japanese "heritage".

>>123575763
You'll get used to it. Ignore shitposters etc etc.

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What are /shmupg/'s opinions on touhou?

>>123580128
different, not all bad, brought the genre to the masses
though the shmup players who exclusively play touhou are pretty much human trash beyond what you'd expect of a shmup player

>>123580128
It's a shmup that 95% of its fanbase doesn't actually play

>>123580128
I have a lot of respect for Touhou. It's what got me into the genre in the first place. so I'm quite happy to have been touched by it. There's some good music, and I like the way boss patterns work (mostly those from the older games though). Having said that, I find the stage design to be very lacking. There's never any flow to the stages, every part can much too easily be divided in sections. There's always a gap between the action which ends up being terribly grating to me after a while. Seriously, just fucking hit me with everything you've got and don't pad out the game-time.

Also, the Japanese fanbase is great because of everything they've created, and everything that they continue to create. But the western fanbase is just obnoxious and is mostly just regurgitating anything the Japs have made.

>>123580298
This tbqhwyf

>>123580515
This is a good thing in my book for so many shmups all there is is the game itself. That's fucking sad if you think about it and how most games (non-shmup) have at least secondary material surrounding them.

>>123580128
I love them, so far I've been almost exclusively playing touhou because I like to spend a lot of effort into one game to push that one to the limit and the controls just feel much more responsive and give you more control than in any other shmup I tried (especially that there is no delay for changing your speed as ther often is in cave games and there are 2 different speeds that are perfectly fit to deal with anything).
I also like the very complex scoring that can be optimized beyond human capacities. I do try out other shmups every now and then, but usually not for long because as I said I like to focus on one thing.
>>123580298
>though the shmup players who exclusively play touhou are pretty much human trash beyond what you'd expect of a shmup player
care to elaborate?

>>123584013
is any of what I said hard to understand?

>>123584054
yes, it is hard to understand why you say that

>>123541241
>tfw local used game shop has an actual arcade in it
>no shmups, all fighting games and lightguns
Oh well, at least they're free.

>>123584013
Not the person you responded to but the people that play Touhou games exclusively, usually have an air of arrogance and conceitedness to them.

Especially the high-level players seem to act especially audacious. Weirdly enough, I find this posture to be more absent in people that have played non-Touhou shmups at high-level.

>>123584820
Got one of those too. It has a MAME cab, best shmup on it is DoDonPachi though. Little laggy too.

>>123563802
There really isn't much of a best, just look around until you find something you like then play the hell out of it, though I'd go with MAME emulation unless a console/pc port is just amazing.

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What game should I beat to prove that I'm an elite player, /shmupg/?

>>123588521
DOJ
Stream yourself from the start of your adventure.

>>123588521
Choose between:
>2 or more loops of Raiden
>2 or more loops of Gradius V
>2 or more loops of Truxton/Tatsujin
>1-all SaiDaiOuJou, including Inbachi
Also stream it, I'd love to watch this happen.

>>123588521
>>123588776
>>123589000
>survival is elite play
If you wanna be an actual elite player you don't have to beat the game, you have to get a score close to wr (hehe, try calling me an elitist, when that's literally what he is asking)

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>>123589573
>hehe

>>123589729
>posting reaction images

>>123589573
Maybe I just wanna see people 2-all Truxton, man.

>>123580128
It's the CoD of shmups. Terrible gameplay which has unwarranted popularity. ZUN is a hack.

>>123588521
Get a top-ten bracket high-score in a CAVE shmup.

>>123588521
Kestui 2-All on Ura loop.

>>123588521
DOJWL or Futari Ultra.

>>123588521
If you want to be a superplayer. You have to get extremely high scores in a shmup that has had a lot of competition.

If you want to look cool, try getting a:
500+ mil Ketsui Ura 2-ALL (Like SPS and ZAP)
700+ mil 2-ALL of DDP (SOF-WTN)
Counterstop of Futari Ultra
2bil+ DOJ 2-ALL (Fufufu, SPS)
These should keep you busy for at least a couple of years.

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I did it, /shmupg/!

>>123594426
Nice one, anon!

>>123594426
Proud of you.

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>>123594426

>>123594426
Son, I am not disappoint.

Why aren't you strming your runs here, /vg/?

http://stgrillz.appspot.com

>>123600397
BECAUSE IM NOT FUCKING GOOD AT SHMUPS OK?!?!?! GOD. THE ONLY GAME I EVER 1CCED WAS MUSHIHIME FUTARI NORMAL MODE

>>123600397
I'll get back to you once I get good, dont you worry.

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What's the most radical powerup and why its a BIG from Ryu Jin?
This shooting game is insane by the way. It's named like corean and BIG makes you big.

>>123600889
>>123601096
Kusoplayers can be fun to watch, too. Don't be scared! The pressure of being watched might even motivate you to improve.

>>123589573
>implying the WR record player of doodoopoo could easily do any of those things

There are lots of ways to be l33t. My way is schooling retards on message boards like yourself.

>>123602247
Why would you want to be bigger on a shmup? Seems counter-intuitive.

>>123603056
And that's why you're a faggot.

>>123603056
It's kind of another type of bomb, as it makes you invincible. It also feels good.

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>>123603195
Thanks anon, I can always count on you to tell it like it is.

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>do a warm-up, casual run
>end up beating the name

In mushi are there more bullets on arrange than maniac?

>>123606279
>die on stage 1 and keep going anyway for practice
>end up getting a PB
The ways of shmups are strange.

>>123602247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srGZUjGXDvA&t=34m55s

>>123606823
Too bad I probably will never see it with my own eyes. 10 stages feel like an overkill, I barely have enough of guts for games with 5.

>>123573405
The good thing about /jp/ is the board is slow the thread will last longer than here.

>>123611008
Why are you afraid to use the /vr/ thread? Also, they only talk about toohoo on /jp/.

>>123611794
You cant talk about current shmups on /vr/. Or can you?

>>123618009
STG cult gets to talk about doodoopoopoo because of some hardware loophole so they don't care.

>>123618009
You're not supposed to, but it doesn't stop anyone in /vr/ unless they're shitposting horribly.

>>123619114
Speaking of shitposting horribly, is this actually entertaining to you? Why don't you go loop your roguelike, duder.

>>123618009
You can. I've never seen a mod delete posts pertaining to new shmups. For example, there was a guy who used to post a lot about Crimzon Clover there, with screencaps and such.

>>123619114
You mean the PGM board? It's pre-1999 hardware, so... yeah. The rule is that cutoff is for hardware, not software (except PC games). The mods usually disregard the rule if the games feel retro enough, like shmups or 2D beat em ups or ASCII roguelikes though.

>>123300532
>it only really uh has replayability if you're the kind of person who's into leaderboards

If you're not into high scoring why the fuck are you playing shmups

I have been getting to Stage 5 in Maniac mode on Mushi 1.0 more often lately but Stage 4 is a being a bitch still. I hate it.

>>123624225
Shmups are not inherently score-based. Only a retard would think they are.

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>>123630112
How many of these images do you have?

>>123296281
You got the wrong pic OP. That game is way too good for all you waifu posters and danmaku tards here.

>>123637898
Sorry anon, I'll make sure to use Mushihimesama for the next OP.

Time to squint at Darius Burst's system requirements and figure out if my brick can run it.

>>123626684
But they are inherently there to 1cc them, which is pretty similar.

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Who /multiscreen/ here?
I can't be the only one hype as shit for this, can I?

>>123642398
>use two screens
>of different sizes
I suddenly feel like I have made a mistake

>>123600397
I don't think anyone would watch my stream because I only play shmups for an hour or two max.

I know it's a long shot, but did anyone here save KetGareLabs's videos before they were deleted?

So my games aren't working right.

I watch videos and awesome ensues, the player dodges millions of bullets at high speeds and with much precision.

Whenever I play the game, tough, nothing like that happens, sloppy movements and bullets hit the ship and it explodes.

More exposure to shoot em ups seems to be fixing it though, it appears that the console and pc learn from their mistakes and now the ship dodges at higher speeds in much more agile ways, but it is still not enough.

I should totally purchase more shmups, it seems to be fixing the problem.

>>123652128
Well, it helped me I suppose.

>>123649582
>KetGareLabs
Whatever happened to him? Did he wanted to move away from Garegga or something?

>>123642387
Except you can play them just fine without caring about 1cc so they're not.

Starting to git gud in spite of pills that reduce my reflexes, they're improving actually, now I can move much faster and dodge well with faster ships.

This feels so gr8

>>123659306
That's great anon, improvement is very important, and at least you can claim to be getting somewhere.

>>123646630
Most streamers there only play 1-2 hours at a time, or even less than that. STGs aren't really the kind of game you can grind for hours and hours on end while still maintaining a high level of focus.

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Whew, my first 1CC not in novice. I almost gave up yesterday, but glad I stuck with it. Still feel like a lot of dodges are lucky, but the dodging i learned from novice helped a lot.

I need a mushi break, even though I want to jump right into the other modes.

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>>123660341
Nice, how long did it take you anon?

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>>123660341
Congrats, dude! Just don't sit on your hands too long; I took a week-long break after my first 1cc, and now I'm struggling at stage 1 boss of maniac.

>>123659892

I'm certainly going somewhere allright, I used to score only 780 million arriving at stage 3, now I've gotten a whooping thousand.
It's not an amazing score by any means, it's very shitty actually, but you know, as long as there is improvement you keep the drive to play moar.

>>123660341
The graphics are kind of bad now that I look at them.

>>123660341

Good job

>>123660853
It is 11 years old, it could be much worse.

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>>123660498
>>123660661
>>123660981
Thanks anons. It took me about 2 weeks at 2 - 3 credits a day.

I've actually been itching to play some Eschatos, since the patch came out while I was playing this, so I won't be away from shumps at least. I really want to try the other modes though, only played them briefly and they're awesome.

>>123660853
I was expecting worse when I bought it, it looks really good to me.

Should I buy Mushihimesama or BoI: Afterbirth on this sale?

Whichever one I don't buy now I'll probably buy during the Christmas sale. Mushi is probably the better deal but I can actually run Afterbirth on my laptop so I'll probably play it more.

I know this isn't the best place to ask but I don't trust the shitters on the rest of this site to have actually played Mushi.

>>123663171
Mushi is newer, so I don't know if it will go -30% off again soon. Afterbirth has been cheaper, but only if you pre-ordered it. I'd say go with Mushi, Afterbirth is only 10% off right now.

>>123658456
Noone does this. Anyone who doesn't play to at least 1cc them hardly plays them at all.

>>123658456
Yeah, and you can play Thief by sprinting everywhere in full daylight and sword/arrow-ing everybody to death in order to complete the game easily. But why would you?

>>123360670
>How much do you think the new Darius would cost?
Around $35 if you're looking for a physical copy.

So while I wait for deathsmiles, what are other good side-scrolling shmups? Gundemonium aside.

>>123674684
>what are some good vertical doily dodgers flipped horizontally
Akai Katana, Progear

>>123674684
I tried out Satazius on >>123392837's rec and it's not bad.

>>123666553
Wow I didn't know we had the king of knowing everyone who plays shmups and how much it's an honor to meet you Your Majesty.

>>123667098
Stealth is the genre of thief so the stealth is its inherent defining feature. Shooting is the genre of shmups so the shooting is its inherent defining feature.

>>123675685
akai katana isn't on MAME, right?

>>123675919
1ccing STGs is like playing through any game you idiot. It's what most people do. They buy a game, play through it and start a new game. Anyone else just didn't like the game and only played for an hour or so, or just sucks too much to play through it.

If you think you beat a shmup by credit feeding through it, you really must be new to the genre.

>>123677275
Thanks for the lesson on STG cult philosophy but how does that apply to shmups that don't have continues? Nuclear Throne for example.

>>123678074
>Nuclear Throne
This game is not shmup you retard, it's an action rogue-like.

>>123678451
Please don't reply to bait.

>>123678451
Just let him be.

>>123678451
Anon, the moment he mentioned Nuclear Throne all should have been made clear to you.

>>123676520
Is it not? I'd assume it follows the same thing as DFK and SDOJ.

>>123678451
I've yet to hear an explanation for why it's not a shmup.

This guy reminds me of the guy who used shit up every /v/ shmup thread saying tyrian 2000 was the best shmup ever and everyone would tell him to fuck off

>>123686158
I suppose it's not a shmup either?

>>123688271
Its a shitty euroshmup

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>>123659306

>not conquering 1cc's while handcapping yourself with drugs

C'mon my african-american brethren, step it up.

>1cc'd mushihimesama normal-original
>maybe I should get an arcade stick
>"best arcade sticks for schmups"
>people talkibg about buying obscure brands, modding them, buying certain parts etc

what the fuck
I just wanna play videogames

>>123689582
Then just play video games. I only started using my gamepad for shmups because I decided I wanted to lay on my couch while playing on a laptop.

>>123689582
Just get the Qanba Q4 Q4RAF.

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>>123689582

>best arcade stick for shmups

Just buy a stick with sanwa buttons and octogate.

I have a Razer Atrox that I use for fightans/STG/arcade games. Some games I have more precision with my shitty 360 joystick.

>>123689582
You can't just play you have to join the cult, pick a favorite part solder it yourself and get the highest score.

>>123689770
is there a cheaper one? It's pretty pricey considering I don't know if I will actually stick with STGs (well, I will certainly until I buy the stick)

>>123690310
Don't worry about a stick, mate. Most people that prefer them only prefer them because that's what they used at the arcades.

>>123690310
the stick he mentioned has a bunch of lag so it's not even ideal, but most sticks will cost around that price - there's little variation in price and form factor, really.

>>123690550
oh
but aren't sticks the intended way of playing the games?
>>123690908
damn

>>123690310
build one
http://slagcoin.com/joystick/tools.html