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soon edition

>What's new?
New map soon. Also store sale for good goyim.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19960704/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-november-17-2015-11-17-2015

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
FAQ | Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/raynor
News, Updates, and Datamining: http://www.heroesnexus.com/

Last time on /hotsg/: >>123112549
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>123198227
>Tiniest .gif in the world edition
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heroes with the highest skill ceiling? currently thinking about buying Aba desu
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earth, swallow my enemies!
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>>123198417
probably kerrigan desu
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Lunara is cute!
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>>123198417
SONYA
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>>123198437
>That Zeratul
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>>123198417

no hero has a skill ceiling that's more than a foot off the ground
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>>123197967
>literally no one will know who you are
...that's kinda the point of a smurf account?
and that's also the point of being anon here in /hotsg/ ?

?????????????????????

>>123198048
you probably got lucky and didn't get paired up with people so stupid that they could pass off as vegetables
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>>123198565
Cute!
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>>123198648
>you probably got lucky
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Vol'jin when boys?
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>>123198801
Why would you want the most retarded troll in hots? Literally any other troll would be 100x better than that idiot
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>>123198227
I thought Greymane was first.

>>123197876
I love these. I smile whenever I see them posted.

I wish there was more cute fan art of HOTS.

I also like the Kerrigan excited about buffs one and the Abathur sad about /hotsg/ one.
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>>123198801
Never.

My nigga Garry is gonna get in before Vol'jin
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>>123198891
Jin'do the Godbreaker when?
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>>123198227
Quick /hotsg/
Leoric's level 13 Talent - Burning Rage or Crushing Hope?
Which is better?
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>some rando dryad got in HotS before grom, maiev, saurfang, fenix, maraad, yrel, necro, kel'thuzad
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Cute!
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>>123199003
only ONLY if we also get Madikor to go with him.
cant break up the Troll Bro team.
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>>123199016
Burning is more reliable in my experience and helps with his wave clear

Crushing Hope is alright, but you don't really get Drain's Hope's full duration off consistently enough to really be worth it imo
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>>123198507
>Kerrigan
What?
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>>123199016

Crushing hope against teams with 2 or more tanks, or with Cho'Gall
Burning rage against teams with only one
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>>123198972
Dustin confirmed Lunara is next on twitter.
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Hey, so I'm reading a bit more of the fluff and I have trouble piecing together something.

Why is it that so many fan depictions and descriptions of Tyrande have her two timing on Malf with Illi? Or seem to indicate that she has a thing for him?

Everything I've been reading says she never had romantic feelings for him of any kind.
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>>123199258
Kerrigan
>literally has 1 combo
>it's the same fucking combo every fucking time
>LITERALLY 3 buttons hit in sequence
>HOW FUCKING DIFFICULT IS THIS?

and noobs still fuck up her combo every time
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>>123198437
dat save
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>tfw your favorite hero is a nigger
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>>123199332
Oh cool, I don't like most ranged assassins so maybe this one will be fun for me. I don't want to have to keep playing Thrall for my assassin quests and Valla is snooze city. I'm also surprisingly bad at her
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>>123199515
>purple skin
>nigger
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>>123199394
That's my question.
How is her the highest skill ceiling if it's the most obvious combo to do?
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>>123199515
Night elves are japs.
Orcs are niggers.
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>>123199895
Tyrande sounds like an Indian to me.
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>>123199749
Same shit

>>123199895
Yeah, japs totally have dark skin lmao
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>>123199515
So Tyrael is your favourite hero.
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>>123199895
>>123199749
Tey-Rondah.
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>>123198668
How is that cute? Looks like a fucking demon
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>>123200067
Tyrael isn't the only nigger in HotS

>Tyrael
>Nazeebo
>Tyrande (it doesn't matter she is an elf, her skin is dark, she is a nigger)
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>>123200057
>ive never been to japan and only know the hollywood jap
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>>123199043
they add heroes based on unique silhouettes and shaping the meta, not based on the fame/status/popularity. They saw the meta was really stale when it came to ranges assassins, so they added two new ones, and went with the ones with unique silhouettes and mechanics that didnt exist in the game.

Did people who care about this game really not watch the blizzard dev panels at blizzcon? Fuck, youre all a bunch of casuals.
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>misclick a talent selection
>it's way better than the one you usually pick
what's her name /hotsg/?
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>>123199515
You have brain damage
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>>123200308

>and shaping the meta
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>>123200643
How is offering more diversity in each role not shaping the meta? Didnt they just make almost every warrior viable as a main tank?
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>>123199043
>muh fan service
fuck off
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>>123200384
Malfurion
Scouting Drones on Cursed Hollow

surprisingly useful
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>>123200384
Eye of Kilrogg
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>>123201075
>LITERALLY SCOUTING DRONES
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got specialist quest.
who shall i pick?
i can buy any hero at this time with gold.
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>>123199295
Is Leoric even viable anymore after his giant recent string of nerfs?
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>>123198648
no one will see your non smurf name in-game and go, woah!!! it's that guy!!!
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>>123201523

zagara or sylvanas
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>>123201523
Zagara or Nazeebo if you want to contribute to your team
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>>123201139
>Lunara has an Eye of Kilrogg
>Cho'gall gets green Scouting Drones
when will Dustin Browder answer for his crimes?
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>>123198227
It begins.
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>>123201617

His passive alone will always make him viable. He still counters most of the warriors as well.
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>>123201883
Dat uther
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>>123201883
Tyrande is going to carry
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>>123202108

Every QM every team every time: The Rotation.
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>>123202108
boring
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>>123202137
>>123202141
We still won tho.
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is Abathur good? also best build for tf?
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Official Hotness Rating Update

Tyrande
Kerrigan
Nova
Jaina
Sylvanas
Johanna
Valla
Sonya
Hammer
Morales

The rest
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>>123202496
I meant to say that the uther was literally level one profile
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>>123202618
Depends on the game, you can memepush with nests and locusts or pick hat talents.
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>>123202650
Tyrande is the absolute best
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>>123202650
>Johanna
>Sonya
>not top
Manlets, when will they learn?
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>>123202738
I wonder if any Blizzard character could beat her

>>123202813
I'm 6'4
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>>123202813
Tyrande is taller than them though.
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>>123202738
>>123202978

Let's take rewind at 20 and double stun this fool

>>123202813
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>>123202956
>I wonder if any Blizzard character could beat her
I don't think so
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>>123203187
>>123202978
>>123202956
>cant handle the Snu Snu
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>>123198437
>that zeratul name
>goes for the expensive and shiny objective instead of the kill

how appropriate
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>>123203214

Maybe Alexstrasza?

>>123203407
Yeah probably not.
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>>123202738
kerrigan is sexier
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>>123203214
>>123203471
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>>123203620

Prove it
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>>123203665
>the ultimate used goods
Ysera is qter
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>ranked loss streak
>drop from rank 1
should i just end it
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>>123203471
>Maybe Alexstrasza?
Maybe Azshara in night elf form
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>>123204009
NO FRIEND, GO BACK AND GET RANK 1 AGAIN

SHOW THEM HOW IT'S DONE

I BELIEVE IN YOU BUDDY
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Is Zagara the Uther of Specialist?

Also who is better, Naz or Slyv?
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>>123204063
lady vashj i don't know topping tyrande is going to be impossible
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eu players if you want chogall add
Role#2138
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>>123173974
>Azmodans taking Black Pool in the first place
ha
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

so i have to wait until 2:30pm Pacific for the 50% off deals?
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>>123204620
in case you guys wanna know that time that means for 50% off sales for your time zone
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>>123202650
why isn't chen on this list?
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>>123204234
AIGHT LETS DO THIS
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>>123204931

He's male and a bear
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>>123205104
So?
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I want Sonya to fug me
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>>123205182
a "bear" is a term used to describe a large hairy gay man

also, the fact that Chen's feet a prominently displayed implies that the artist also has a foot fetish

but hey, whatever floats your boat, right?
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>>123205365
why don't you wanna have some brew and a good time with chen
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So apparently Lunara is in the new warcraft expansion:

http://beta.wowhead.com/item=123880/lord-halsharas-tomb
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Alright battle to reclaim rank 1 begins.
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>>123205468
because Johanna is looking for someone to crusade with
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>>123205602
godspeed u lil nigger
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>>123205365
>having a problem with large hairy gay men with foot fetishes
don't you know what year it is, anon?
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>>123205613
but anon, chen needs some company too...
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>>123205971
sorry anon, but the crusade calls
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>>123205971
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who ever said to use Zar.
fuck you.
useless shit bug has no way to get away from things.
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>>123206246
you are playing her wrong
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>>123206246
You are bad and should feel bad
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though that isn't to say i can't be persuaded to swing for the other team from time to time

>>123206246
>trying to frontline as Zagara
>not shitting creep tumors everywhere like a Diamond Zerg player
>not using free vision and movement speed from creep
>playing a character wrong and then crying about it

lol
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>>123206246
>needing to run away as Zag
If you're getting even a little bit of pressure put your Hydra on them and back up.
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>>123205971
God, why do I click these? And I even like Chen.
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>>123205613
>asian
>blonde
lol
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Which hero is the most suited to carry a shit team?

Not thinking of doing it myself since I suck, just a hypothetical question
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>>123206713
Asians dye their hair a lot, anon.
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0-4 fap
5-9 play sgt hammer in HL
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>>123206713
hey, i don't get it myself, but i'm not complaining

>>123206795
Sonya's pretty good
you can clear camps super quick, map objectives are no problem, if you have half a brain, you can even solo Boss

ETC is a bit harder to carry, but as long as you get some good powerslides and a nice Mosh, even the most retarded of teammates usually get it

Thrall is pretty alright too if you just want to spend time picking off stragglers and people who have shit positioning
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>>123205716
wew lad that was a quick one
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>>123206302
>>123206354
>>123206356
so she has the same gimmick Tychus.
she needs to hide behind her group unless it is a 1v1.
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>>123206795
A strong frontline warrior like Sonya. But it's really hard to carry in HotS compared to other ASSFAGGOTS, since all heroes have pretty much equal usefulness throughout the game.
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Zag a shit back to memurky
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>>123206713
I bet she's not even a real crusader!
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>>123207010
Sonya is an assassin
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>>123207276

Just keep practicing, she like every other no-mobility hero needs a fair few games to learn.

She isn't super forgiving to mistakes like Murky and co. are
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>>123198565
>>123198668
I want to amputate her four legs and force my maggot-infested kobolds to run a rape-train through her deer elf prostate until she secretes enough embalming fluid in her womb for me to gulp.

>lich fetishes.

>>123205613
>>123206090

I'd like to siphon her vitality slowly, as her tanky health bar slowly droops only for her to quickly recover and to start her suffering again, i would collect the secreted sweat from her never ending labor and use the sweetest juices to polish my ribcage.

>lich fetishes
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so really what is johanna's hairstyle?
she's the best
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>>123207003
Er, not quite, she outdamages tychus
And out speeds him
And her ult is better
And she zones significantly better because her drakken lazer drill is mobile and on a 12 second cooldown or someshit
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>>123207916

MOM IS GOIN TO FREAK!
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>play Zagara
>QM into Falstad, Stitches and two bots
>lose because I'm the prime target and everyone can just dive me with no consequences
fuck I hate QMing as this bitch
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>>123208304
MY MOTHER IS DEAD.

Actually undead.
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Is anyone else getting stuck at Authenticating?
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>>123208991
shit's gone down and people's accounts are being wiped/reset back to level 1, but it's all client side

just chill out and shitpost a bit here and it'll be back to normal in a like half an hour
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>SHUT UP AND DIE
Holy shit this man is based

Can't wait for the revamp so I can play him without feeling like I'm gimping myself
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>>123206356
Why the fuck didn't those chucklefucks add the male Barb / Crusader instead? I'm not playing some faggot chick version when the two are canonically male in D3 just to add more female shit characters to HOTS.
Completley ruined the two heros for me which is a fucking shame. Gender-bent skins fucking WHEN?
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>>123200038
tyrande sounds german.
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>>123209442
>Diablo
>canon
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>>123209442
haha, das gay
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>>123209442
i guess Blizzard wanted to be "hip" and "with the times" and give a chick the skrillex haircut because of the SJW fantasy of the "powerful womyn who don't need no patriarchy" or something

i don't fucking know, i want gender swaps of all the D3 heroes, that was fucking point of being able to create your own character

Male/Female version of:

Witch doctor
Monk
Barbarian
Crusader

if any when Wizard gets in, there better be a fucking way to get both male and female
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>>123209442
>WHY IS IT NOT A BUNCH OF DICKS?! I FUCKING LOVE COCKS!
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I will boycott Blizzard until they change Crusader, Demon Hunter and Barbarian to the correct gender.
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>>123209772
Wizard should be male

They already did two unlikely gender swaps with barb and crus, might as well go all the way

Also then you have 3 and 3
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batman best waifu
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>>123209897
But anon, Sonya already has a dick
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>>123209772
>being able to discern the Wizard's gender at all
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>>123209442
The D3 heroes are not the D3 player characters. Valla was a famous DH and the owner of a set of crossbows. Not sure of the others had legendary items, I really only play DH in D3.
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>>123210173
>>123209986
>wizard's gender isn't "wizard"
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>>123210031
>GPU 77
jesus anon, cool that shit
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>>123210446
he cant, impcvck is always hot
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>>123210189
No, she was not. The same with Johanna in HOTS. They added items matching their names to Diablo 3 to connect the lore. They were not real or named people before HOTS created them.
Canonically all the art and shit for Crusader is the male version then they went and made it the female in HOTS to appease the leddit SJW audience who needs STRONG WOMEN XD!!
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>>123210650
>muh sjw scapegoating
no one gives a shit nerd
it's good to have a variety of female and male characters, literally no one gives a shit about the "lore" of diablo characters
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>>123210650
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/lore/short-story/demon-hunter/
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>>123210940
Not true. I do and many other real people do.
It's not a scapegoat if it's true.
Thanks.
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>>123210650
>Canonically all the art and shit for Crusader is the male version then they went and made it the female in HOTS to appease the leddit SJW audience who needs STRONG WOMEN XD!!
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Best build for lost vikings? The HP Regen path?
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>>123210650
>these fictional characters weren't real until they got made up
??????????
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>morales on 2 tank + cho'gall team
>get first two immortals
>we're doing good
>morales says she's refusing to play anymore because we have a bad team comp even though we're destroying the other team
>proceed to lose because morales won't go into any fights to heal because she's scared of nova and zeratul
>when she goes out she stands right in the open away from everyone in the perfect spot to be ganked by nova and zeratul
>MUH TEAM COMP ISNT PERFECT SO IM JUS NOT GONNA PLAY
fucking PUSSY, it's fucking quick match, not the end of the world, god dammit
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>>123211226
Did you report?
I wish Blizzard gave us a notification like Dota 2 does when someone you report is punished
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>>123211081
just go boat, you'll be ridiculed by everyone else if you don't do it.
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>>123211528
not gonna happen

everyone in blizzard games needs to be coddled like a baby because we're all winners!
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>>123211594
I dunno, it was satisfying to see that message popped up. Made me feel that Valve wasn't completely oblivious to the community and that my voice made a difference. And then I picked Spirit Breaker and won lmao
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>>123211589
lol
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>>123211528
of course, why people play a game and then refuse to play is beyond me
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>>123211707
if i could pay blizzard money for it, i would

$1 - a confirmation that the report was received and seen by a Blizzard guy

$5 - confirmation that action was taken

$10 - confirmation of action, as well as details on what the punishment was

$25 - a detailed list of specifics and a copy of the chat log + game replay annotated with the specific point which broke the rules, as well as a heads alert message when the punishment for said player expires

$50 - a personal block list to never be paired up with that specific player again and each time they log into the game, they have to justify their existence and offer 1/4th cup of blood to verify identity
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>>123212162
you fucking disgusting jew
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>>123212162
I'd pay $10 for both confirmation of punishment and a hacked audio recording of their reaction
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Man that Drain Hope build for Leoric really fucks up Cho'Gall. Also I thought they fixed the bug that it would stop randomly?
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>>123211589
Literally the opposite.
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http://strawpoll.me/6085503

Give it to me HotSG
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>>123211081
Anyone?
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>>123210650

>Canonically all the art and shit for Crusader is the male version then they went and made it the female in HOTS to appease the leddit SJW audience who needs STRONG WOMEN XD!!

I hope for your sake that this is bait.
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>>123213774
where's chen?
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>>123214006

Read the poll man. It says best girl
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>>123210650
>tfw you realize that if Warcraft 2 were coming out now, people would shit their pants over Alleria because all the normal elven archers were men so introducing a female one is tumblr SJW misandry
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>>123213774
shit poll desu
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>>123214262
>Diablo 1 has 3 classes: 2 men 1 woman
>Diablo 2 has 7 classes: 4 men 3 women
Wooowwww obviously Blizzard is pandering to the Reddit Tumblr SJW crowd!!!!
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Have they said anything about ranked above rank 1? That shit is silly.
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>>123214469
>being this new
>thinking SJWs were a thing until 2012
>thinking Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 were made post SJWs

nigga what?


>>123214635
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19508173/conversations-around-the-community-ranked-play-6-1-2015

>While the goal of the ranking system is to have each rank represent approximately 2% of the population, rank 1 is currently an open ended rank for those who have reached a high level of skill. To recognize the best players in each region, we are planning to add a Grandmaster-equivalent rank above rank 1.

pick related, Grandmaster Rank
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>>123214178
wow, way to be inclusive :/
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>>123214823
>5 months ago
Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and assume they just don't give a fuck about this game or anything in it
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>>123214823
>The concept of social justice didn't exist before 2012
Only retard here is you
>>
>Muradin dwarf tosses into every fight. When he needs he doesn't have it. Dies constantly.
>"Muradin save that for a get away no reason to use that to engage."
>Keeps doing it. Keeps dying.

How hard is it not to be a potato?
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>>123214823
>play Warcraft 3 for the first time
>I really loved the Alliance campaign in Warcraft 2 so I'm excited to see what happens in this one
>but wait, this isn't right
>who the fuck is this Jaina slut, all the mages in the first two games were men!
>she gets shoved down our throats through the whole game and keeps showing up in every other campaign
never buying another Blizzard game. Metzen selling out to tumblr and their SJW nonsense
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hey, newfag here, just got to 30 - does playing ranked matches give more exp and gold than QM?
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>>123215451

No for either.
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>>123215451
no
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>>123215310
>Night Elves have lots of women units
WHEN WILL THE SJWS GO AWAY?!!?!?!
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>>123215539
>>123215551

thanks for the speedy reply
so then what's the point of ranked? bragging rights? muh bronzeleague?
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>>123215084
Implying sjws held a grasp over game companies back in 1999.

Gtfo tumblrite and go back to crying about the misogyny
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>>123215689
there's no point, doing ranked just means you lose the neat sheriff's badge on your portrait
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>>123215689

More organized games than QM because you avoid the hellish no-support games, are able to end up with ON AVERAGE better teamcomps and can get rank 1 which shows you're either somewhat competent or somewhat lucky.

also can we seriously take the SJW shit to either /v/ /pol/ or 7+1chan instead of here
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Towers of Doom tomorrow boys.

https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/668944084833312769
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>>123215829
> sjws held a grasp over game companies
Hold on, let's get some music for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAAlDoAtV7Y

>so then what's the point of ranked?
Bragging rights mostly. If you want to join a team nearly every single one will mandate that you are Rank 1 and/or have 2500+ MMR
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Cho gall good on new map?
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>>123216064
did you mean "if you want to post on /hotsg/, you need at least rank 1"? I'm sure you did.
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>>123216064
>rank 1
>2500 mmr
But 2500 mmr is rank 15
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So, trying to get back into HotS again, is there like a list of known strong heroes who have both high skill cap and good flexibility?
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>tfw your hl mmr is lower than your quick meme mmr
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>>123216096
Maybe. It is all about pushing towers and you can't push core. So him dying late game doesn't mean insta-loss.
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>>123216318
Kharazim
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>>123216017
I hope people have played a game on the ptr so they know how it works
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>>123216318
Sonya is strong. Also fun and cute.
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>>123215829
>be a huge fan of Diablo
>play the whole thing dozens of times as every character
>buy Hellfire and everything, play that to death too
>desperately waiting for the sequel
>finally, the day comes. It's out
>drive to the store and buy it
>take it home
>wait excitedly while it installs
>finally it's done
>boot it up
>oh god that music is so good
>it loads
>start a new game
>no
>they couldn't have
>it must be a glitch
>but it's right in front of my eyes
>the Sorcerer
>he's a women now
>quit game
>uninstall
>eject disk
>break it and the other disks it came ith win half
>throw them all out
>microwave my hard drive
Blizzard North literally raping lore to appease SJWs. Boycott anything that fucking loser David Brevik touches
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>>123216434
I know that feel bro, mind sharing your numbers?
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>>123216318
>high skill cap
Anything with a skillshot, TLV has map dependent strats and maps that you definitely should not play them on.

Nova has super high potential if you can take Gathering Power and not die, especially with the right team comp and map.
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>>123216269
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/19015751808

Read the thread, lots of sub-3k MMR players at Rank 1
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>>123216819
>Nova
>anything but dead weight
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>>123216584

I haven't, or read anything about how it works.

Can't wait to shit up some games.
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>>123216434
iktf
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anyone know how to run 2 instances of HotS on 1 computer with 2 different accounts?

i wanna AFK train my smurf but bored as fuck
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>>123218069
Only way I can think of is a virtual machine. You'd need some pretty serious processing power and RAM to have it not affect your main gameplay though.
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>>123218069
>>123218284
Oh wait, never mind, a sandbox might work too (and be less resource intensive).
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So what's your longest winstreak, /hotsg/?
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>>123218446
i've always used Sandboxie, but it doesn't work on Win10 :/
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>>123218614
afk training
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>>123218614
Like 5, but my loss record is 16.
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>try and duoQ with someone from /vg/
>random shitter in each match decides to decimate our chance of winning by giving up instantly or just straight fucking off
>"by not turning in on BHB and soaking instead we have tempo" - Fantastic the Thrall

not even going to try
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>>123218614

I won 12 straight hero league games on my first road to rank 1. I was happy at first, then very suspicious of the matchmaking.

And of course, after that, I lost something like 10 of my next 11 games games. I guess the matchmaking had enough. It was also at that point that I realised if you're just solo queueing, your ranked in rank doesn't mean that much since most of what determines if you're going to win or lose is based on luck with the matchmaking system rather than your own skill, but that win streak was fun while it lasted.
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>>123216017
when will we get a secret cow level map?
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TIL Battle.net app doesn't work when sandboxed

well fuck me, guess i'll just have to install it on another computer or something
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>>123218614
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>>123219045
There is some credence to the idea of waiting to turn until you have knocked down some of the weaker structures
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>>123219240
>that loss
ANOTHER WINNING STREAK SHATTERED
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>>123219205
I played on a second pc for the cho gold, but it doesnt seem worth the effort for afk xp bonus
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>>123219240
absolutely based
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>>123219274

Yes...but being absolutely miles away from everyone else when we're trying to stop the enemy turning in when we have an early game comp (sort of) and then just straight leaving the game 4 minutes in has no credence at all

also no map is as much of a waste of effort when behind as BHB is
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oh god what
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>>123218614
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>>123219796
Matchmaking
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>>123219796
>DickJesus
>Fluttershy

Some winning team mates right there.
>>
haven't played in a while
what's this new "scaling" patch I've heard a lot about
anyone have a link?
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>>123216318
Most heroes only fit 2 of the three. Tyrande is the first that comes toind as powerful, versatile, and having a high skill cap. Kharazim, too, though his damage build is extremely situational and you just want to go full healing 99% of the time. Abathur is incredibly powerful in the right hands, and has multiple builds depending on map and team comp, but he's completely different from anyone else and may not be your cup of tea.
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>>123220365
http://www.followgrubby.com/news/91/NewScaling.html

Grubby probably explains it the best.
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i feel as though i have lost my purpose in life.

it hurts.
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>>123219796
You need to increase your mmr if you wish to not see low leveled people in your games. Consider starting a whole new account and play at least a hundred games with as positive win ratio.
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Post'em friends
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>>123220590
I see
seems like a good change overall
tower hugging was bad enough with the increased exp range
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>>123220942
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>>123220580
Well, looking at it, I might consider looking into Tyrande. What about Tassadar by the way? I already have him since he looks to be good at supporting and also dealing AoE damage on top of vision control
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>>123220590
>My concept is now non-valid
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/concept/anduin-wrynn-wip-2190
Fuck
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>tfw most of the people who you played in alpha with quit already
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>>123218614
It's impossible to get a winstreak going in this match making system.
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>>123222015
t. CommanderITF
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EBIN
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Ok, I'm still trying to level up from 17 to 40 here. Should I just stick to versus AI since I observe that quite a number of teammates I play with still havent gotten rid of their other MOBA mentality of sticking into a lane when HotS downright encourages early teamfights? It makes Quick Matches frustrating when it happens on your team no matter how much you try to warn them to help you on an objective
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>>123219796

enemy team blind as shit to nova
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>>123222182
>Should I just stick to versus AI
anyone who plays vs ai is a fucking loser baka desu senpai
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>Nova bragging about doubling every one the teams damage.
>She's died 12 times. Next closest person is 5 and it's Illidan.

Yeah good job Nova you dumb fuck.
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>>123222175
More like ASSAdams
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>>123222182
you can only get 2.250.000 exp daily through AI games (includes both training and vs AI)

if you wanna get to 40, 2.250.000 from AI, then QM
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who /eu/ here
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>team keeps engaging 3 or 4v5
>some guy unironically asks in chat why we keep wiping
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>>123220942
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>Anduin Lothar is going to appear in Legion

CONFIRMED FOR HOTS
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>>123223319
>Maiev gets a spiffy new model
>still never
also, Anduin has been in every version of WoW ;^)
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I wanna slap Nova and call her a dumb slut
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>during HL draft, all my teammates have a sound discussion about which heroes to choose based on synergies and counterpicks
>we all lane properly and group up flawlessly for teamfights
>resounding win in 11 minutes and everyone politely thanks each other for the fun game
is this real life?
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>lose game
>get put with the 2 worst players from that game next game
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>>123223441
If you like the playstyle, Zeratul is for you. A literal clone.
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>>123223523
>>123222901
>>123220728
>>123219092
I
Q u i t

This game is shit. I will see you when the next patch comes out and the new match making system is in.
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>>123223607
but Zeratul isn't a cute owl lady
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Garona will be announced around the release of the Warcraft movie and will be used as promotion for the movie

calling it
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>>123223692
I doubt these issues will be entirely gone even if they remade the whole system, due to the nature of how MMR works. Hopefully it'll be better for the highest of mmr players, at least.
>>
please be my friend

deemania#1305
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>>123223897
lets win this nigga
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>>123223897
EU or NA? Post hotslogs.
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>>123223523

Get ready for your next game.

Gonna be a first pick Gazlowe, one guy afk and DCs and the team spends the first 5 minutes bitching at each other until one guy just says he's going to afk at fountain. For every game like that, there will always be a game like this to balance it out.
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>>123223594
this is why i wait at least 3 minutes before queueing up again so those faggots move onto their next games
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>>123223897
>nobody ever posts their region
how have an entire thread full of blizzdrones never posted in /hsg/?
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>>123223810
man, the trailer for the movie was really underwhelming. i like the timeline they chose for the story, but the dialogue/scenes shown were so generic i was bored to tears.

i remember being so excited about the first transformer movie. and then it was generic as fuck to get maximum casual appeal. man that was disappointing
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>>123224106
battle tags starting with 1 is NA
2 is EU
so
1305
is na
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>>123224221

Such is life post 2000.

Trailers kill hype, I'd rather hear "So-and-so movie is coming out on this date it's going to be great be there" than have two minutes of the entire plot of the movie spoiled in stupid ways six months before the movie comes out.
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>>123223692
You arent very good.
You arent getting fucked by matching making, you are getting players that match your ranking.
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>>123224019
>>123224106
north america

>>123224273
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>>123221550
I like him a lot, but I'm not sure he's particularly strong. So much fun to play, though, and I'd say he's got a decently high skill cap.
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LMAO NOOBS BTFO, cant stop this combo.
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>>123224873
If it helps the Nova I was matched with was wearing Roller Derby Nova skin.
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>>123225009
>Cho'Gall
>QM
>your name is Shi'T
how fitting
>>
Cunning and Tyrannastorm
>Cun'storm
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>>123225437
fun names are all cho has going
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>>123225437
that 619 tho senpai.
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HotS on laptop, afk training my smurf to 30 so I can HL
HotS on desktop, losing ranks in and dropping from 20 to 40
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>>123203851
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>>123225643
so what? you going to kick a dude in head and then do high spots over his dead body?
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>>123225790

>not showing the backstory, the most important part

You had one job, anon.
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>>123225949
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Nova loves anal
>>
Let's say your team is uncoordinated as fuck, and probably one or two of them may listen to you and help you take objectives in a general pub game. Which role is best if you simply want to win and perhaps get into an MMR where people actually know the importance of objectives?

..Unless higher MMR does not necessarily mean more coordinated teams
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>>123226223
:P
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>>123226319
you want someone like sonya who can make big dick plays all by herself
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>>123224032
status report
our raynor sat in base and called everyone a nigger the entire game
our only support wanted to solo lane
johanna tried to take every camp every time it was up, by herself
our tyrael wanted to turn in his coins while we told him all 5 enemies are at the turn in. we got 0 coins turned in the entire match
i had most kills, fewest deaths, most siege damage, most hero damage, and most exp earned as valla

this feels much more like a regular HL match
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>>123226327
Slut
>>123226319
Play hard carries, like raynor, KT, Jaina
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>>123226443
>>123226383
A bit of a shame since somehow my favorite heroes tends to be supports or the more tanky warriors. Oh well, I needed more Assassins in my roster anyway
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>>123226410

You were warned. After that game, you should have just quit while ahead.

Every time I get a great hero league game like that, I immediately either stop for a few days or just play quick match. I know what's coming the next game.
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>>123226383
I'd like Sonya to make me play with her big dick
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>>123226319
>mfw just had uncoordinated as fuck team
>mfw support keeps disconnecting, leaving kharazim to only kick and shit and not lane or help out
>mfw our entire team decides to take 2 lanes on a 3 lane map, forcing me to lane by myself
>mfw our Raynor keeps trying to solo 3 guys at melee range
>mfw they all decide to give up and let the enemy take the core

>mfw I was playing ETC for the first time, and would've had a better time with pic related
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Artanis is so fucking handsome!

Too bad he don't have a dick.
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The best advice is to listen to those quiet, nagging doubts. Sorry for losing that ranked match, team
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What would you say to Nova if you met her IRL?
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>>123227083
how did you get out of those video games
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>>123220942
>>
I occasionally pick Gazlowe when my team in HL pisses me off. Some of the reasons so far.

>saying artanis is a tank
>telling me rudely that i have to be the healer since i'm last pick
>team is already filled with meme picks(murky,nova,abathur,cho'gall,etc.)

They then try to blame me when I warn them what will happen if they defy me during draft.
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>>123227083
I'd check if anyone's watching then forcibly strip her from her clothes and violently rape her as many times as it is needed for her to get pregnant.
>>
How do you Vikings on Dragonshire?

I just had a game where the worst Kael in the world told me I can pick up orbs to increase passive gen. Which I knew. I had 35 orbs. That's plenty.
>>
is it the 24th yet? i wanna be a good goyim and give my sheckles to blizzard for the 50% sales

i might finally pick up Tyrande and Murky, maybe even Leoric
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>>123227630
Like she wouldn't kick your ass
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>>123227083
Can she help me meet Kerrigan?
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>>123227694
Not a fucking chance.
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>>123225790
Cum dump
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It is bad if i still don't own Cho'gall?
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>>123227968

No, but if you want him and are on the American server, I will do 2 AI games with you. I want that gold bonus, so it's good for both of us.
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>>123227838
anyone have the comic where Nova tries to infiltrate Kerrigan's lair but gets caught and fucked by a hydralisk and then fucked by kerrigan and then Kerrigan's jizz infests Nova and turns her to Zerg?


speaking of Zerg, how do I Abathur?

I'm pretty good with him on Cursed Hollow, some anon posted build last night and it's been working well, but i'm struggling with him on pretty much ever other map
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Post more Kerrigan.
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>>123227083
She wouldn't have any money right? i'd pay her twenty bucks to twerk
>>
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>>123228030
Yo I am not that guy but are you still up for the cho'gall games on American server?
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>>123228769

You don't own him? Sure. Name?
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>>123228451
need to breed
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>>123213774
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>>123228818

garbageday#1746
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>>123229159

Okay, I'll add you.
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>>123220942
I just can't stop playing Tyrande, got her to 20 in like July too and still is the most fun to play for me.
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>>123199372
No one?
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>match starts
>hammer and medic literally afk until they get kicked for inactivity
>spend 5 minutes 2 bodies down
>take boss (fucking somehow) as soon as the bots kick in
>players finally reconnect
>first thing they do is feed
>still manage to win

Fuck me, that was awful.
>>
>>123228232
>>
>>123223607
Well Illidan was changed a lot, what makes you think they can’t rework Maive move set, not to mention we have no idea what she it’s going to do this exp, that could give her more moves
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>>123199372
They were friends growing up, her, Illidan and Malfurion. Illidan loved her and did a lot of what he did to try to win her, gaining power and stuff, but that never really panned out for him.

Also people like Illidan a lot more than Malfurion so they think that's a better pairing.
>>
Concept:

1
Heal
Mana: 60
Cooldown: 10 seconds


After 1.5 seconds, heal target for 1920 (300 + 81/level). Can move while casting.


2
Leap of Faith
Mana: 40
Cooldown: 15 seconds

Pulls an ally to your location.


3
Holy Flame
Mana: 40
Cooldown: 4 seconds

Deals 220 (120 + 5/level) damage in an area in front of you, and lights enemies on fire, dealing an additional 212 (72 + 7/level) damage over 5 seconds.
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"WE ARE GOING TO BUILD THE WALL"

-Tassadar
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>>123230674
AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE OVERMIND PAY FOR IT
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>>123210940
Its good to have a variety, but not adding Bul-Kathos as the barb character reeks of feminism
>>
>>123230837
Why would Bul-Kathos be the Barb character? You don't even see him in Diablo.
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>>123230745
Zerg are responsible for 90% of death in the Galaxy, 90%, that's really bad!

I don't get me wrong, I love the over-mind, he's a brave guy! But EN TARO ADUN!
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>>123230837
I think the female barb was a lot more popular than the male barb. I mean the most popular D3 streamer was kripp and he played a female barb mostly, even still uses her fan art as his icon.
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any NA bros down for a quick match?

TRUE#1476
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>>123227663
Seriously, anyone?

Today is not my day for getting responses apparently.
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>>123231442
That's literally the only map you don't pick vikings for. QM doesn't matter.
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>>123230962
You literally talk to him before killing Malthael
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>>123230837
>be big fan of Warcraft 3
>the expansion comes out
>hype as fuck, buy it day one
>playing through the night elf campaign
>pretty fun but something is bothering me
>they want me to believe that Illidan's jailer weren't stalwart male druids, but some slut cosplaying as an owl
>she's shoehorned into every single campaign except the bonus one
SJW tumblr feminism gone mad. Fuck Blizzard and their stupid misandrist kek writers
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>>123231563
>dragon shire
>not spider tomb
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>tfw it clicks
>tfw you pick the best X class hero for the map

>tfw ETC on BoE
>tfw Muradin on BHB
>tfw Johanna on Cursed
>tfw Diablo on Dragon
>tfw Sonya on Garden
>tfw Johanna on Shrines

>tfw you start winning
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>>123230837
>there are people who didn't want the female barb
????
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how do you guys feel about Anub'arak being sleeper OP now?
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FUCK Cho'Gall
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>>123231698
>not Sonya anywhere all the time
>>123231867
he's been a solid tier two ever since beetles and locust swarm got nerfed. Did the scaling help him or did it just make everyone else worse?
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>tfw have really high win rate on my favorite character
>afraid of playing him anymore and inevitably having my win rate drop due to shit teams
;_;
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So, me and my team are very likely retarded, because we ended up having a really solid comp (Warrior, Two Assassin, Two Support [though one was Tassa]) against some ridiculous comp of Raynor, Butcher, Gazlowe, Zagara and Rehgar and managed to LOSE. Pretty badly too.

It was Battlefield of Eternity and even though we won our teamfights, we could never win the immortal. Ever. I couldn't do shit to the immortal, as Stitches obviously, but just defending didn't ever work because we wouldn't get any damage on the immortal before someone respawned.

Our immortal just melted.

Is Battlefield of Eternity just a strange map in this regard where Specialists are worth having?
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>>123233020
Specialists are always worth having because they usually add a lot to a teamfight or poke
and two warrior is better than two support unless the 2nd support is a good tyrande
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>>123210650
sjw's are pandered to so much that they gave Legion Commander a sex change in dota 2, and now theres 1 female strength hero in the game.

1 too many
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>>123233020
your stitches shoulda done good on the immortal. Are you remembering to use your bite ability for some burst damage on them?
may I ask who your assassins were?
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>>123215604
night elves have a lot of female units because all the men are fucking druids that can turn into giant fucking BEARS and are off protecting the emerald dream which is actually important. night elves are literally the african lions of warcraft.
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>>123231641
I didn't play Barb in story. Just in seasons. The point stands why the fuck would they have Bul when he doesn't contribute much. While you fucking can play the female Barb.
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>>123233581
>and are off protecting the emerald dream which is actually important.
>Dragon Aspect in charge of the Emerald Dream is a girl
FUCKING SJWS AT IT AGAIN
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>>123232315
He shits all over ChoGall with Cocoon. I think that may have boosted him up.
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Who here has a high HL MMR & wanna play with me on a smurf?

I can pay you in CSGO Keys if you can help me get to R1. I'm pretty high ranked in LoL so I figure it shouldn't be too hard
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>>123233826
oh yeah.
I forget that because every time I play Anub'arak in QM there isn't a Cho'gall on either fucking side
thanks Blizzard
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>>123224221
honestly I liked the trailer. Blizzard knows what their fans like, its gonna be good. that scene where the orcs and humans were charging each other is gonna be referred to as warsong gulch, calling it.
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>>123233448
The cooldown on the bite is pretty long, but I did bite him when I was by the Immortal. Our assassins were Jaina and Kerrigan. Jaina was really bad. Like, really bad.

And yeah, I imagine Jaina should shred the immortal.

That bite is so useful, I fucking love playing Stitches.
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>ANUS-ANAL KAEL'THAS ASS
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>>123233667
>Bul-Kathos
>first and strongest of the barbarian kings
>patron god of stomping the shit out of you and everything you love
>gives you the conviction to destroy the fucking fallen arch angel of wisdom
>has numerous items and weapons named after him
>doesn't contribute much.

Sorry kid thats a Red Card
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>>123233669
a girl that can change into a fucking dragon. Some girls are allowed to be cool, ysera should be added to the game.
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>>123234682
>girls are ok if they're a dragon
yeah nice try Anita
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>>123234562
Mufasta gives you the conviction to beat Math if you play Witch Doctor. Some no name Monk gives it to you if play Monk.

Should they be in the game.
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>>123234945
>Some no name Monk
already in
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>>123234801
>girls are ok if the're a dragon

gotta have kids with someone
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>>123234945
I haven't beaten it with monk but I can only assume that no name monk you speak of is actually Ytar, another god.
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>>123235073
Yeah but he looks exactly like the male monk from the game. All the Diablo 3 characters aren't supposed to be the playable characters from the story, but they totally are. I don't care what stupid reason they give why they aren't.
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>>123234562
>we should add a Naaru because a lot of characters worship the light
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>>123235206
No. It's the Monk that trained the you. I forget his name. Your Monk mentions them being alive when they left the temple.
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>>123233843
I guess I'm down. I don't play CS:GO though, so you can keep the keys. Add me Thisigia #1481, I'm assuming you're NA. If it makes you more comfortable here's my slogs: http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=2705331
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>>123235217
exactly. if there was 1 storyline for each character it would be male barb, male crusader, male WD, female DH, female wiz, male monk. I only say female wiz and dh because they had pre game release blizzard cinematics made for them.
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>>123235291
thats not what I said at all. if any draenei gets added ever it had better be Moraad or Velen

its gonna be Yrel
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>>123235392
Yep. I'm on NA. I added you. My ID starts with M. Ends with Y.

Would prefer if you have discord or teamspeak or something so we can talk & I can learn from you. While I do understand general mechanics that are required in all MOBA's at a high level, I've had a really hard time climbing by myself and I know it's because I'm missing out/dont understand on some mechanics of hots. Would be great to get some hands-on feedback about what I'm fucking up.

It's definitely not feeding, siege, hero dmg, xp contribution because I'm always(yes always) near the very top every single game, so I must be doing something else wrong(I know stats don't mean very much, but it does mean I'm not a total fucking tard if I'm at the top of nearly every stat every game)
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>>123235582
>tfw no Nobundo to be a full ele shaman instead of Thrall's weird ele/enhance hybrid
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>>123231867
Just wait until the chogall shitters die down and youll see his winrate stabilize again

>Cocoon cho
>Teamfight is now 3v5
Ez
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In this game is there some kind of attack speed repetition penalty for switching targets?

I swear, if say, you are right clicked on one hero, then change to a hero touching them, then there's like a half second stutter, even if you swapped targets just after you loosed your last ranged attack.
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>>123237073
yea they really dropped the ball having 2 shamans and not one of them having a proper elemental build.
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So, I'm about 40 minutes in watching the Orc campaign in Warcraft to get a sense of the fluff and so far, I got that Blackhand is the biggest baddest orc Warchief there is, who would murder his own daughter Griselda for running off with the ogres.

Oh and that the puny humans of Sunnydale have grown fat with their prosperity.

It is funny hearing the orcs say "Loktar" pretty frequently.
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>>123239083
>not killing your daughter for running off with ogres
that's how you get degenerates like Rexxar senpai
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>>123220942
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>>123198417
Illidan easily, along with the vikings.
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>>123220942
Only the best.
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>>123233020
double support is just painful there but at least you didn't get triple support. You have to hold the center of the map for an extended period, which is a lot harder than it sounds when you can't kill anyone quickly and people start the fight half mana burned or want to leave someone on the immortal.
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>>123240312
Gotcha. Yeah, we couldn't get anyone down quickly enough that we could all go to immortal without them respawning to finish off our immortal.

Thanks. That map has become my bane in the last couple of weeks.
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>>123219346
underrated
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>>123239083
I've been watching a playthough of warcraft adventures. What I learned is that Thrall became warchief by just kind of wandering around and picking up random shit like a clepto and being an all around goofball. After he became Warchief, he largely did the same, but awkwardly made conversation with some dragons. Mostly he just kind of stood trying to combine things in a really awkward overly upright stance.

Then I guess he kept doing this and learned Shamanism somehow.
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>>123240920
at least that took effort
all Vol'jin did to become Warchief was be the least competent and therefore least threatening Horde leader after he stabbed the rightful Warchief in the back
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>>123220942
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>>123239083
the orcs come from a world that knows only war, they seem savage to everyone else because they dont understand how to co exist with other things. Durotan is the only chieftan who says to himself "what if we didnt kill everything around us?" thrall inherits this sense of peaceful living and is thus looked upon as weak by orc standards, just like his father.

the reason thrall is able to form the horde and prevent the alliance from wiping orcs out of azeroth is because he proves to jaina that his people can co exist in peace. war happens anyways but eventually it all gets overshadowed when the burning legion tries to invade azeroth and wipe out everything in existence. once the burning legion shows their face Malfurion Stormrage wakes up and forms a pact with the humans to try and save the world, otherwise night elves actually hate everything that isnt elvish.
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>>123220942
I'm glad all my master skin heroes are so good...
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>>123220942
I don't actually own Lili.
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>>123240920
he gets taught shamanism by Drek Thar. one of his fathers old friends. Drek Thar also invented shamanism by using knowledge he gained from studying warlock magic, to try and commune with the white wolves of the alterac mountains. Thralls clan, the frostwolf clan, are the only orcs that did not drink the blood of mannoroth and become tainted by hatred.
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>>123220942
Gall's just an inch behind Brightwing. Trying to get him to at least 9.
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>>123220942
OH NAPALM

YOU LIGHT UP MY LIFE
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>>123220942

I have never even used a stimpak. How can people olay so few heroes? If I had used stimpaks my Tyrande-Nova-Sylvanas could easily be lvl 20 already.
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>>123242581
You've probably been playing for longer than I have.

And you probably play more than 3-4 games a day.
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>>123242581
i'd be a lot farther along if i was in beta or 15 again where 3k games a year was possible/interesting.
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>>123242581
>I have lvl 9 sgt hammer
>that took me 65 games to achieve
>its probably gonna take me another 30 games at least to hit 10

you have fucking thousands of games played dude, thousands.
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>>123242581
you automatically get a stimpack for one of the player level rewards
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>>123242581
1000s of games played, still a shitter
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Prove me wrong:

It doesn't matter how hard you try, unless you place Rank 1 within your first 200 games, you're destined to be a shitter.

It's impossible to have everyone achieve Rank 1, 99% of people will end up being the shitters that separate Rank 1 from 2 through 50. Someone's gotta be shit, turns out it's 99% of players.
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>>123244738
I didn't play ranked until like 400 games in, now I'm nearing 1000 games played and still around rank 10, but I'm not giving up yet!
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>>123242581

probably play with people regularly for the exp bonus
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>>123241415
>rightful warchief
>almost brought down the horde completely because he was warmongering idiot.

Thrall naming him warchief was the worst decision made by an Orc since drinking demon blood
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>>123245419
Well if it makes you feel better. Sylvanas is the fucking warchief now.
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Is there any way to patch the game manually? SO is having connectivity issues, can only connect to certain sites and games and battle.net is not letting him patch.
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>>123242773

Since closed beta, yeah. Aren't more of these on this general?

>>123242806

I'm not a teen, thank God my family business let me be free early on the day.

>>123243028

Kinda, see image. They aren't THAT much.

>>123243496

Oh yeah, I remember that, though, I got it when I was already 40.

>>123244251

lol, I'm not perfect, but I can defend well myself. I can fit every role.

>>123245418

Used to when I started, but I don't play many QM's nowadays, and not being able to queue with my friends on HL really hurt. :(
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>>123246202
>no name
sub 2k mmr detected
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>>123246242

I have 0 interest in knowing anyone from this thread, sorry. I feel really old when reading it. Is fun to pass time though.
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>>123246242

So what's a good MMR to have? 3k? 3.5?
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Guys Gazlowe is the most fun character in this game. Just wanted you all to know.
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So I'm pretty new to Heroes in general and I suck really bad, blah blah

But Artanis is my favorite guy and everyone tells me he sucks and that my build also sucks

How "should" I be building him? I've been basically taking talents that make Blade Dash better (because without them it feels worthless) and Triple Attack/Zealot Charge with Nexus Blades @ 20 and the Purifier Beam ult. Early game just try to be a big butt to whale on, late game duel dudes with my ult and slowing them with W charges, using Q to avoid CC or as the coup de grace

I kinda like him and I've had some success doing this shit, but people who are better than I am at this game insist he sucks and that build sucks and that I should take a bunch of talents to increase Shield Overload's uptime... but I feel like Shield Overload kinda sucks???

Whatever, someone tell me how to Artanis or maybe Kerrigan idk
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>>123246816
I like to build him more tanky so my build is:

1. Reflective Parry
4. Templar Zeal
7. Psionic Synergy
10. Ult depends on enemy team comp
13. Triple Strike
16. Zealot Charge
20. Force of Will.

The only other build people use is more of a damaging build.

1. Season Marksman
4. Lethal Alacrity
7. Follow Through
10. Same as before
13. Triple Strike
16. Zealot Charge
20. Force of Will or Nexus Blades.

Q should only be used to dodge skill shots and not as a poking tool. If you are chasing someone never use q unless you are going for the kill.

E is best used to displace people during team fights and always auto attack people. The minute you stop is the minute you die. One thing to know is Artantis is pretty weak until level 16 then he becomes really good.

Kerrigan the big thing to practice is land combo and get the ravage heals talent.
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>>123246645
imo 3k is baseline for maybe you're okay. 3.5k is starting to get good.
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>>123246379
>I have 0 interest in knowing anyone from this thread, sorry
literally what does that have to do with hiding your name
We can't add you without your battletag and even with it you can deny requests
scared 4chan is going to burn down your house or being associated with 4chan?
People that hide their names are mentally ill I swear
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>>123247307
I've hotdogs'ed people here and shit on them with just name
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>>123247165
I've been doing:
1 - Reactive Parry
4 - Lethal Alacrity
7 - Solarite Reaper OR Follow Through
10 - Purifier Beam
13 - Triple Strike
16 - Zealot Charge
20 - Nexus Blades

Giving Q a damage bonus on its first pass-through has made it okay for finishing enemies off, esp. if they're just out of Zealot Charge range. I use Q exclusively to dodge CC or skillshots or to finish people off. Sometimes I'll use it to harass people if they have no way of stopping me returning, but like I don't use Q against Kerrigan ever.

I tend to start most fights using E just to fuck up positioning or to body-block better, esp. early in the game, and I rarely run from fights unless it would be really easy to do so, because Shield Overload helps me win duels I otherwise wouldn't. That said, I feel like Nexus Blades just straight up helps more than the extra 2 seconds of CDR on autoattack, because Nexus Blades and a Purifier Beam are usually enough to 1v1 literally anyone I've fought so far.

I'm not saying your build(s) are bad, just that:
a) Why do people think Shield Overload is worth investing so many points in
b) why would you want Q to have a lower CD at low health? That doesn't seem to help as much as longer/faster Q would?

also is Seasoned Marksman worth it? it seems like you'd have to be soaking EXP in a lane for an absolute shit-load of time for it to be ever meaningful
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>>123247540
so what you're saying is he's embarrassed about his # of games played being higher than his mmr
kek
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>>123247598
The idea behind lowering the cooldown on his q is to use psychic synergy to reduce his trait cooldown as much as possible. Shields are the only survivability Artanis has since he has no way to disengage, and he's relatively squishy if you can't consistently keep shields up.
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>>123247985
Word. It makes sense, I suppose, I just haven't had much success playing that way. I feel extremely weak building tanky as Artanis, whereas I straight up win duels against people in my probably-shitty bracket being a moron and building damage-y.

What is the Kerrigan combo? Jump on a dude, pull into a stun?
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>>123247598
Because if you go the shield build that means each time you hit someone with q your shield is up faster and if your health is low you have your q more often which also means more shields. Which means you stay alive longer because you have no escape and staying alive is what's important. More damage on Q is only useful for catching people running which if your in the middle of a team fight is not useful and after 16 is worthless because Charge is what you'll be using to finish people off.

W is what is going to get you most of your damage. Q is used for utility that's about it.

As for seasoned marksman it's good for a damage build because of follow through and how often you'll be using your abilities like w.
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>>123248108
Dueling is not the problem with Artanis. You'll most likely win any duel with Artanis even without Q because of shields.

Kerrigan combo is pull into stun. That's it. Ravage can be used to finish someone off or to engage. I like to use it more as a finishing tool that an engaging tool though.
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>>123248221
>>123248348
Admittedly I'm new but most of the Artanis-chat I see amounts to "he needs to be buffed" and "give him Zealot Charge sooner," but I actually feel like that would make him too strong too early. Getting ZC is when I finally feel like a badass as Artanis and get to jump on LiLi and just murder that bitch real good

Why don't they just make Artanis's Q cancellable after the first dash (if they want to give him chasing power) or Unstoppable (if they don't)? Right now, I use Q to avoid Kael Qs, Boss camp AOEs, etc., or with Solarite Reaper to finish off fleeing assassins before returning to the fight. I literally do not use Q when laning at all against 90% of the lanes I face, because W is way less mana and doesn't occasionally get me killed. Blizzard has to know that Q kinda sucks atm, right?
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>>123248348
>Kerrigan combo is pull into stun.
unrelated but how does that work? E>W? I never seem to quite get the right timing with it, is it just the placement of the blades to work on?
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>>123248864
Q - W - E

There's a 1.25 second delay on the stun, so you want to cast W BEFORE E

cast it W in front, then grab them, by the time they get pulled to you, the 1.25 delay is up and they stunned, so you can kill 'em with that

also, be sure to pop Maelstrom earlier than later, it does literally nothing but deal damage per second. i've seen Kerrigans try to use it below 1/4th health as a desperation move or a finisher but using it like that pretty much wastes the entire point of the ult since you'll only get one or two ticks off before you die
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>>123247307

Ha, "scared". Scared of what? 16-21 year old spouting memes on chat? I simply don't care. Is that hard to get? Ooh, but "h-hiding your MMR!"

sheesh, the gobbygate generation is so annoying.
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I think the new scaling hurts marksman and any of the farming talents that give flat number bonuses and not percentage bonuses
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>>123249259
fuck off kid, you're the one that's too much of a pussy

you've already played your cards and shown that you've got no balls to even play a game with people online, don't try to be cutesy with it faggot, either grow some balls or gtfo
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>>123248793
He is dog shit early game. It would make him to strong, it would make him playable early game. Being able to cancel Q would make him broken as hell. Imagine Blink but it's also an attack. It would be stupid.
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>>123249412
You really only take it on Raynor and maybe Artanis anyways.
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>>123249461
Fair, but then Q shouldn't be "basically unusable garbage, lol" either. So instead of making it cancellable make it Unstoppable? Also Zealot Charge being innate to W would make Artanis capable of gap closing every 4 seconds, and also make his Prism basically unmissable because you'd always be point blank. He'd go from bad laning to completely OP laning, right? You couldn't just straight up give W Zealot Charge innately without nerfing something else about him, and I just don't think that's necessary/a good idea
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>>123249461
wouldn't make him to strong. Sorry I'm tired.
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>>123249557
give me more might be better now
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>>123249996
it's situational
on some maps where I can gather 50 stacks, well it makes a pretty big dfiference
+50 dmg per AA
+75% on crit from focused attacks
x1.25-1.87 times a second
shit adds up quick
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>>123249431

See? Nothing but an angry teen that think that playing online justify your fedora behavior. Nah mate, I'm 27, I grew up playing on arcades and the first generation of cybercafes lan parties. I had my big deal of being a baby playing videogames years ago. All of this "the internet is hardcore! Go to Reddit!" shit is only for your generation.

Cringe, but hey, off you go. This is the kind of stuff you are embarrassed to remember 10 years from now.
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>>123250861
different guy, but I've been a cunt to people on the internet for well over a decade, and I'm not embarrassed by any of it.

It sucks to have wasted so much time on some of it, but here I am still wasting my days on shit like this
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>>123250861
>getting so buttblasted that he needs to whip out the "look at how badass and unaffected i am"
>getting baited this hard by a shitposter on /hotsg/

anon, pls, stop pretending and let's just get back to talking about why Lili is best support
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>People using colour variations on their Abathur

This should be illegal
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>>123251434
Lili is cute and fun
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>this fucking queue time to play abathur

kill me
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>>123249431
...the fuck you even trying to say?
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>>123251434
Li Li is best support because of her home made brew, her jugs, her kung fu hustle, her can do attitude, and her love for adventure
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>>123251462
white slug da best
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>tfw 67.9% win rate on QM BHB
>tfw 36.4% win rate on HL BHB

so when i dick around, i win
but when i actually try to win, fuck me
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Why did Blizzard think this match was ok?
Leoric literally hard counters our entire team and could walk up and almost kill someone 1vs5.
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>>123252376
because QuickMeme is shit, stop playing QuickMeme and play HL
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>>123252376
>taking a meme mode game seriously
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>>123252441
I don't like playing ranked.
My friend isn't even level40 and doesn't own 10 heroes.
I want a non-ranked draft mode.
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Id like to avoid it entirely but theres always someone who will pick CG on HL. How can I not fuck the picking phase up further? Should I focus on counterpicking with lili/johanna if the enemy team goes multiple GK/b4b?
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>no overwatch anymore
>forced to play this shit game for 6 months
>Garbage matchmaking
>garbage balance
>completely delusional devs out of touch with their own game
Fucking I just want back on the tigole train.
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>hotfix patch
>Azmodan still not fixed
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>>123252712
What's wrong with him?
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>>123252518
I think you try to take Leo, raynor, if available. Maybe even valla
Honestly its pretty much hope for the other team to throw

>>123252583
The balance was almost good before chogall
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>>123252808
cant throw his 1.5k damage fireballs around
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Sonya
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>>123252808
taste for blood stacks don't get amped by black pool.
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>Playing my boy Abathur
>Build mines then spikes
>Dive like a madman using kerigan
>Burst what ever moves with janna
>Win

I had to learn how to both janna and kerigan that game, shit was intense.
I wish healing was a stat tracked for Abathur again, soma transference from two hats on 5 heroes hero throughout a fight stacks up.
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>>123252824
Kael/jaina have been god tier heroes since added to the fucking game and uther has been retardedly strong and best support since closed beta.

Leoric seems like a completely broken retarded hero I haven't played in 6 months but it seems like NOTHING HAS FUCKING CHANGED except leoric exists and is broken as fuck.

Balance has NEVER been fine.
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>>123252808

laser sucks shit and black pool is meh
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>>123253742
subscrooled
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>>123253742
leoric was down to a 26% pickrate and 50% win, uther has been at 50% win for a long time
Kael and jaina were strong, but still only mabye 54% wins

just go to hotdogs and check last weeks numbers
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How to fix Artanis
>Shield now start below 75% life
>Q can be stopped midswing for quick escape
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>>123254267
Win %'s mean jack shit.
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>Lose every game
>top damage as tanks
>feel like I do nothing wrong
I remember why I hate this game.
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>>123254273
I'm fine with Artanis being shit. His kit is one that would be incredibly annoying to face if his numbers were higher.
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>>123254273
So how to create cancer from a fairly balanced hero
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>>123254273
>let him cast E while mid Q

there super powerful
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>>123254306
they mean a fuck ton if you are bitching about balance
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>>123255470
Nah, win percents have never shown if a hero is imbalanced or underpowered.

Play the game.
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>>123255470
only for bronze where people hardly know how to win or have much skill. it's a sliding scale where picks start to mean a lot more near the top because most are trying their hardest to win most games. picks are how they got there over the merely good at raynor crowd.
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>>123255734
>>123255584
Right. How much a hero wins has nothing to do with being op or up.

I guess balance should center around your feelings?
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Is playing Abathur in hero league a bad idea? I'm thinking about trying Hero League and I don't know what to expect.
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>>123256054
I would prefer someone else in just about any situation
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>>123256158
I have a 57.9% win rate with Abathur in QM and I pretty much exclusively QM with some people who are very shitty players. Part of why I want to go into Hero League is so I won't have to deal with them anymore.
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>>123256371
>I want to go into Hero League is so I won't have to deal with them anymore.
Oh boy are you in for some disappointment.
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>>123256497
Well to clarify they are people who I know, not randoms, and they annoy me because they do weird things like wander off alone during team fights late game to go lane or do mercs in highly trafficked areas, so I'd prefer a team that at least feels a stressful need to stay together.
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>>123255941
>i'm illiterate
just fuck off if you're here just to be a smug nigger
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>>123256635
and they aren't going to want to follow you into hl?
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>>123256665
>wins and losses confirmed to be uncorrelated to hero strength
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>>123216908
>1200 damage nuke on 10s cooldowns
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>>123257029
Well I could only queue with one of them and I basically will avoid doing HL when they're around.

Just did my first game and won, with Abathur. Kept placing fuckloads of locusts behind their forts.
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Guys, would anyone play Cho'Gall with me please? My tag is Quelto#2158
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>>123257920
Do you want to get Cho'Gall or to give away Cho'Gall? Are you from EU or 'murica?
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>>123257293
that's great but after that you are going to have to use your brain to figure out why they are winning so much
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>>123253742
Jaina was pretty weak when she came out, she wasn't good until maybe the vikings patch. Her moto was "I'm here to feed" when she came out because her damage was too low and she just died all the time.
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>twf Jaina let her father to die just get laid with orc and half-ogre
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>>123253742
>"Leoric is broken!"
>Has no initiate
>Squishier than other tanks
>Predictable as fuck
You are either sub-room-temperature-IQ or 12 years old and don't know any better
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>>123258662
She let her father die so the citizens of Theramore wouldn't be killed.
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CONSIDER
>Locust nest is removed from the talent tree
>Is now Abathur's third spell
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>>123259314
how about
>abathur removed from the game
useless hero created to throw games
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>>123259314
I really like the mines but I would probably be okay with having Locust Nest early in the game if only because it makes backdooring during objectives much more annoying.

I've yet to lose a match with Abathur in Hero League because every game I either turn it around by backdooring them with locust swarms like crazy or I clone someone and do something reckless and unexpected that results in big losses for the other team, as they try to focus me down or get killed by me.
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>>123259314
Make the replacement talent, "Abathur and his nests now spawn two locusts."

Or make them happen twice as often.

The swarm never relents.
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>>123259834
You misunderstand me, i mean abathur gets symbiote, mines and locust nest

>>123259427
>mistaking abathur for gazlow
embarrassing

>>123259904
I like it
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How do I be good at this game
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>>123259936
I figured out your meaning after I made the post, and I also made the post about spawning two locusts with the replacement talent.

I greatly enjoy Locust Nest, I frequently burrow into their base and leave one, forcing someone to hearth and deal with it and my other three or four locusts. Keeps them busy and minimizes their ability to be effective at mercenaries and team fighting. I do it almost exclusively when I see them all committed to objectives. Always take a keep.

The strategy is sadly much more effective when my team is bad than when it is good, since if they're good and winning the objectives usually by the time I have nest I've already taken down two of their rear forts.
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>>123260182
Also why the fuck is this queue taking so long
makes me want to not play
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What the fuck is going on in people's heads when it is a 3v3 situation and the tank manages to get not only a perfect initiate, but the enemy players are all around 25 - 50% hp already and your team members do not attack? They just fucking watching and run back and forth.

I've had so many similar situations now these last games. The fucking inbred fucking russians in my team are only watching and then sooner or later we lose the entire game because they are fucking retarded. No, let's NOT take the curse tribute, let's take the mercenaries instead. Fucking morons.

Fuck this game. Which hero can EFFICIENTLY carry a whole team in this game? I'm already playing like it's 1v5 anyway so I might as well play that hero.
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>>123260863
chen, johanna, any tanky heroes
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>>123260863
That's why I stick to tanks who can initiate. Sometimes you gotta throw your hammer as Muragod and that will signal your team to attack.
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Does Heroes of the Storm contain any meme related content?
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>>123261263
If Arthas' Sindra ult isn't a good signal then I don't know what is.
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>>123261615
Don't underestimate baddies anon. I've had people say "well it's a slow so I thought we were trying to get away"
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>>123260863
we were a talent down bro
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>Jaina afk for 4 minutes at beginning of the game
>comes back and proceeds to go balls deep an spam pings people
>swears at other people in another baboon language that no one else understands
>we still say gg
>Jaina tells us it was really bg

a true dota2 experience

how do you deal with the team booga when you are the ooga
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>>123262261
Put on your white pointy hat and throw fire at the problem until it goes away, or starts a civil rights movement.
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>>123261497
the game is literally a meme
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>>123261497
No but /hotsg/ is a living meme.
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how to play Artanis
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Anyone still need chogall?
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How is the new map? Is it out of beta yet?
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>>123263345
If you wanna be killy (the usual build) pick these
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/artanis#sKdV
If you wanna be tanky (you will still be less useful than real tanks) pick these
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/artanis#lQih
Zealot charge is a must have in any situation, it's your only reliable gap closer.
Pick the blinding ulty if they have Rainor, Illidan or other powerful autoattackers, pick the space laser in the other cases.
You suck dick and can't really do much before level 16, but when it finally hits you become scary as fuck.
Also practice throwing the prisms.
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>>123263746
there seems to be no fucking synergy between his three spells, randomly charging around is so useless.

the only good talent he has is indeed zealot charge
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>>123239521
Illidan is the easiest fucking character ever.
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>>123263746
>>http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/artanis#sKdV
This build is so fucking horrible
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>>123264268
Care to elaborate?
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>get into qm, blackhearts bay, playing johanna
>jaina is named GM205, meaning they're retarded enough to get hacked
>anub is muted and keeps spam pinging uther
>sylvanas is just retarded, have no idea what she's doing, just 'what the fuck are you doing'
>uther takes tank talents and heals less than the enemey tyrande, ironically they're even wearing a pay skin
>beginning of game me and anub are struggling top while jaina, sylv and uther are screwing around in bottom lane
I get put with these retards after a 6 game win streak, this is proof blizzard purposely matches you with retarded children if you win too much, that was the most painful match I've ever played
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how else is gonna start playing nothing but Jimmy to prepare for when they get drafted to fight in WW3?
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>>123264552
Seasoned marksman is pretty meh with the new scaling changes.
Follow through is trash since it only gives bonus dmg to the 1st attack of your W, might as well take either of the dash talents.
>killy
>not taking nexus blades
you already pretty much reset the CD of your passive with the triple strike
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Sonya a cute
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>>123264695
>I play in an Exalted game on roll20
>two of the players are Chinese sisters
>one of them sounds kind of like Li Li

ah shit wish I didn't notice
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Why is chen so lewd?
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>>123264982
were they fun?
can you find out the rest
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>>123265319
Haha that pic is great!
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new map/lunara when?
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>>123266026
Most Li Li pictures are great, Anon
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>>123266339
later today/possibly dec 8
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>>123266361
No I meant the joke. Its spot on XD
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>>123266416
cheers m8
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>>123264268
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/artanis#kdyG
I'm >>123246816 and that build is generally what I've been doing, sometimes exchanging ults and sometimes trying Marksman, but Marksman never felt impactful so I just went with Parry anyway.

PS is it me or is every single Prism talent fucking bad?
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Reminder to buy Kael for 10k before he get his price reduced tomorrow.
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>>123267330
unless you are counting the cash sale, Kael isnt dropping anytime soon
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>>123266829
Prism is just bad in general, it needs something, maybe range or a bit of missile speed. The build is close to what i generally use except i use the other dash talent on lvl 7 tier
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>>123264734
Seasoned Marksman is a late game talent. The scaling changes really only effect early game. It's like regen master. You take it for late game effectiveness.
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>>123267330
Will they even reduce any hero ?
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>>123267749
>>123267931
he is dropping this patch, it was announced on some meme podcast
price is dropping because everyone have him, like with jaina
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>>123267859
regen master is even more trash now
1.5 health per second might matter after 50 globes, or you could take a talent thats useful the entire game, and doesnt require shitty farming
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>>123268029
what patch? I dont think we are even getting one day, the map is already in the client

I think you are telling lies, senpai
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>>123266829
Yeah but then you chose the shit q talents so might as well take them. Especially giving more damage to Q. At least the other one can be justified by making it harder for the other team to stun you out of it.
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>>123268093
sure casual, whatever you say
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>>123268263
Right, with the new scaling take a talent that will give you half a percent more regen, but dont worry, just lane instead of team fights or objectives

Its match making sticking you with baddies, thats why you lose
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>>123268093
Maybe in bronze league, but 9/10 times for most of the tanks that have it. It is the best choice.

The only warrior off hand Ivan think of that it's really bad for is Johanna for obvious reasons
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>>123268449
>He can't collect globes roaming.

How shit are you?
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>regen master is bad

Wut
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>>123269435
>doesnt do anything untill the end
>need 2min to regen to full health when there is oneshots everywhere
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>>123269668
not him but its really useful on some heroes especially on small maps
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Are your wallets ready for this sale boys?
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So which talent do you pick @lvl1 on zera
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>>123270546
I'm not a boy
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Are the scaling changes implemented already?
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>>123270546
is there anything good
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>>123268029
can't seem to find any mentions of it but i doubt he makes it to his first birthday at 10k either way

>>123270829
yes since last week
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>>123270546

>being a gullible goy
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>>123270698
orb gather or marksman if u are a smartman
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>>123269668
>one-shots
>on Chen

Nice Meme
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>>123269668
Are you the person that thinks reanimation is bad for Leoric?
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>>123270841
me neither
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>>123270795
pls be in Raven Court
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>>123270886
>yes since last week
What? I just played a couple of games as Leoric today and it feels way different than last week's, like he's a lot squishier now. Or maybe today was just not a good day for me, idk
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>>123270841
50% off everything.
>>
>want to party up with people to level up faster
>don't want to play with shitters
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>>123271071
>taking reanimation instead of extra ghost hand range
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>>123271203
>not having friends you can trust
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>>123271123
And Kerrigan's abilities hit so hard now
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>>123271304
Thats not the only thing that got hard in regards to Carrygan ;3
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>>123271256
>having friends you trust
>friends are all casual shits
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>>123271420
Well sucks to be you I guess (lol that weed number though)
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>>123271438
Bring your trash images somewhere else
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>>123271438
I don't know what that picture means but Nazeebo is fun and cute and I'd prefer you not bully him
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anybody on NA servers have cho gall, that's willing to do 2 AI games?
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Why Jaina elemental so ripped? Does this mean she secretly want to get raped by some strong man?
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>>123271763
Would you summon a bitch ass elemental?
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>>123271763
>implying water ghoast is male
>implying Jaina doesn't crave Sonya's meaty tatooed dick
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>>123271763
Its not a secret, anon
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>>123271750
I'm at work for another hour if nobody has helped you I'll help you out.
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>>123271931
>Sonya's meaty tatooed dick
A-anon pls.. that's my fetish
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>>123271945
>Bolvar is mentioned in leaked files for Legion.

Bolvar when?
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>>123271974

thanks much appreciated
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>>123272049
He's part of the DK artifact quests.
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>50% off sale later today
>Current bundles are 60% off

I'm pretty sure there's some fishy shit going on. It's too early to do some mental work.
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>>123271168
wait really? literally everything?
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>>123272714
yes, including your mother
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>>123272743
#REKT
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>>123272743
thats mean
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>>123272534
Bundles are always on "sale".
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>>123272049
I'd rather see him as a paladin.
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>>123220942

Probably going to order a sylvanas daki soon
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i don't want any of the skins, just give me a way to buy all the heroes damnit
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>>123272534
started playing almost year ago

they were at sale even then

gotta buy that thing fast goy
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>>123273005
Have you tried contacting blizzard about this?
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>>123273154
yeah, but their response was the generic "check out our store for bundles and discounts on hero skins when you buy a set"

they reeeeaaaalllllyyyyy want you to spend money on skins
>>
Reddit made a scaling changes spreadsheet a while ago I guess, but they didn't add the new change yet 4% (multiplicative) for each level above or below 20. For example, a level 10 hero has all stats multiplied by (1.04)-10 for those who might want to bookmark it for when they do or DIY.
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/artanis#kdyG
>>
i had forgotten memeslug was so fun
>>
the best bundle is the Storm bundle that comes with the most heroes, it also includes a bunch of skins, so it's price is inflated that way, but it's the single fastest way to acquire 8 heroes right off the bat

$40 base, minus more if you own stuff already
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>>123270546
I am probably buying Skelethur, Lurkablo, Earthbreaker Thrall, Marshall Raynor and Winter Veil Jaina if you can get it without buying the bundle.

I'll probably impulse buy some more as well.
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>>123273578
>I had one job
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16dx9y6xZCZI0reeFMgMraf-nKibwZV0HoYU1OPzM4Bc/pubhtml#
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>Artanis doesn't take Amateur Opponent
It's like you don't like clearing camps/objectives in seconds.
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>>123273837
Doesn't that only work with double strike?
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>>123274161
His W is pretty much spammable tho

>>123273837
>tfw Artanis on my team didn't take Triple Strike
and I was wondering why he couldnt survive any late game TF or at least deal some damage...
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>Your Kaelthas and Tyrande have 8 deaths 10 minutes into the game
>They yell at you because you're not stupid enough to go 3v5
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>>123198227

Jesus, this kind of match is insanely tiring. So much tension looking for anyone to make the first mistake to go all in. It was a glorious victory at the end.
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>>123274446

>have 0 deaths and top damage as kt
>tfw teammates say 'we have no damage gg kt'
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>>123274938
>meta keks who only play meta heroes in their kek league
must be really "exiting", kek
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>>123274938
looks like u got carried hard
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>>123274938
dat tyrande carry
>>
>>123275061
>azmodan
>meta
what
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>>123275061

>Azmodan

>meta

Sure buddy. I would have prefered Sylvanas instead, but the goddamn guy didn't listen. That Zagara did some amazing maws that I don't know how we survived.


>>123275206

Who the fuck do you think was the guy that saved them, with burst heals and shields, did set up for the few kills with stuns, cancelled pursuits, marked enemies, buffed up everyone AND made the calls?

>>123275270

This guy knows. I got 3 friend requests later. Feels good man.
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>>123275405
>burst heals
>made the calls

yeah sure thing bronzie
if ur so good why hide ur name
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>>123273582
Whenever I play Abathur, I think of Killbot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATU9FCLRAv0
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4 hours and 20 minutes left until the shop refreshes and we get them sweet sweet deals, who's ready?
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>>123274938
It's always good to see the Tyrande team win, she has always been the most fun hero in the game by far.
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>>123275405

>saved them
>burst heals
>shields
>set up with stuns
>CANCELLEDP URSUITS
>MARKED ENEMIES
>BUFFED UP EVERYONE
>MADE THE CALLS

>rank 3

pic related

great blog, now get out
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>>123275494

Overflowing Light combined with Protective Shield and Shadowstalk is a huge burst heal. Sometimes a miracle, really. She is the only support I really enjoy because of her versatility. Going damage builds don't let me do that, but the kills are so sweet.

>>123275937

>cancelled pursuits

A Sonya about to kill a Falstad fleeing for his life

>marked enemies

D

>buffed up

Hunter's Swiftness

>made the calls

The most important thing. That one boss we got right after killing Sonya was what switched the tide we were losing early on. So happy I got a team that listened.

>m-muh blog!

That's it?
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>>123275937
Tyrande literally does all of those things
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>>123273837
senjinn here

amateur opponent is only viable on BoE, seasoned marksman should always be your go-to talent. if you want to be useful. triple strike and nexus blades both synergize so well with it. artanis has a very weak early game, so you should be building stacks as much as possible.
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>>123276207
whatever are the reasons ur trying to justify ur tyrande pick, with a real support u would have not been perhaps such a drag
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>>123275695
I would be, but I'm at work. But I'll be spending money when I get home.

What are you buying?
>>
>>123276430
Tyrande can actually solo heal, tomb is her most viable map for solo healing as well. She can solo heal other maps when you comp is aggressive.
>>
>>123276647
>waiting to see what the bundles are like if there's going to be any of them available during the sale

my priority right now is to just unlock as many heroes as possible, i'll get skins later, but i wanna be able to get all the heroes
>>
>tfw your team is 2 tanks, 2 specialists and morales vs 3 assassin + tank + tassadar
>>
>>123276430

>ur

Who the FUCK was a better support? Fucking teach me you piece of trash. I was the last pick, agaisn't the whole other team I made the decision to get burst dmg and ranged stuns since we couldn't possibly make anything to them with such strong frontline. Muradin/Kael complemented her really well. The issue here really was Azmodan.

Tyrande, when played and talented right, is an amazing solo support. Coupled with another one let's her be a really nice secondary assassin.

>>123275695

I'm buying the headless horseman charger, the dire wolf. Super Sonya, Novazon and Succubus Kerrigan. From there, I don't know, but these are my MUST have.
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>>123272115
I'm home now. If you still need Cho'Gall what's your tag.
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>>123276207
>>123276259

>do things you're supposed to do in your role as a specific hero
>LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS I DID /vg/ AREN'T I SPECIAL

>still rank 3
>mmr is trash

stay bronze faggots and stay mad
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>>123277193

I'm not bragging about the things I did you jerk, I'm explaining what things Tyrande can do to that moron that though I was getting carried. Every single one on that match did their job.

Get blasted idiot.
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>yfw from the depths you come.
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>>123277292
>rank 3
>uppity brat
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>>123275405
>Bronze befriending bronze
Tales of Bronze.
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>>123277073

koopaclaws#1706
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>>123271071
Reanimation IS bad on Leoric. Its such a small amount per second not to mention the recent nerf to it when he's dead.
It's trash.
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>>123276430
>he think Tyrande is bad
I hope all of /hotsg/ doesn't think this way, this is next level bad.
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>>123277579
>50% of the words in your post are "bronze"
great memes friend
you really socked it to him by saying bronze over and over
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>>123277059
>Who the FUCK was a better support?
monk, malfurion

>The issue here really was Azmodan
its not like he pretty much carried your ass
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>>123277292

without a reply its impossible to ascertain you did anything other than what your entire team did and you're playing it up like your team was confused wood league and through your coordination efforts alone you managed a win

that being said you're still rank 3 so stay eternally assblasted

you played well as tyrande and won -- congratulations but beyond thatabsolutely nothing is special about the bronze game you played in

>>123277579

>tfw people try to add you after game
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>>123277730
Sure it is.
>>
Looking for someone with Cho Gall
Gizmofreak #1170
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>>123277805
Why would malfurion be a better support on tombs? He's mediocre everywhere.
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>>123277793
i never said tyrande is bad u shitter

what i meant was that tyrande is not solo-healer tier and if you somehow manage to win theres noway u could take credit from it

like that anons picture proved
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>>123277852
isn't every rank 2% of the population? so rank 3 is top 6%?
so what's your definition of bronze? the bottom 99%?
i'm sure you want to say yes to that and tell me that's because everyone who plays this game is total garbage at it (except you yourself though, you're special, 100% of your losses are because your teammates brought you down)
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>>123277905
its because people using outdated by 4 month meme guides
this builds was good when he came out but not now
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>>123277959
i dont know, maybe because he can actually heal?
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>>123278157
Is that why it's taken nearly 2000 times when the next closest is like 200.

The only other one worth taking on that tier is hopelessness and that's only worth taking if your going full W build, which is not always a good build to take.
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>>123276862
You deserve to lose if you can't protect morales.
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>>123277926
Na or not. I was going to help this Koopa guy but I guess he's not coming on.
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>>123277796
>Bronze defending bronze
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>>123277730

>45 hp regen
>22.5 while dead
>can pick up health globes when dead
>shit

lo, master player, what talent would you pick other than such a shite one?

>>123277959
>why would kt, muradin, or azmodan benefit from innervate?
>why would my team want a decent root?

tales of the bronze

>>123278124

>rank 3 is top 6% of players

anything sub 3k mmr is a substandard player, and blizzards win/loss ranking system is inherently flawed

the fact that you believe its an accurate measurement of player ability says a lot about you and your rank
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>>123278124
no, like 50% of all players are between Ranks 28 and 23

it would be impossible to actually have a rank = 2% of the population, because that would mean that people are getting pushed in and out of their rank when others around them are climbing or falling

if i get to Rank 15, and don't play for a week, i don't come back and notice that i've been pushed to Rank 17 because the some of people in Rank 16 climbed up and some people in Rank 14 dropped down

it's a retarded baby's first way of having leagues and ranks, they should get rid of it and just switch over to Starcraft's league system of Bronze, Silver, Gold, etc etc.

Grandmaster should be top 500 players (because HotS is a 5v5) instead of top 200 (Starcraft 2 is 1v1)

Master should be the top 2%, and not just "rank 1" because right now "Rank 1" includes people from 2200 to 4200 MMR, which is a huge fucking difference between the best Rank 1s and the worst Rank 1s and gives literally no indication of skill outside of Blizzard's "top 200" players post they do like once every 3 months
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>>123278221
>ally at 20% hp running away from pyroblast
>malfurion use his shitty heal
>ally is dead because your heal need 8 more second to finish
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>>123278109
Tyrande can absolutely solo heal tomb of the spider queen. Are stuck back like two patches ago? Tyrande solo healer was even done at Blizzcon and won.

She can solo heal fine when you have an aggressive comp on other maps, the only thing she suffers with is when the fights go on for a while she doesn't have the sustained, but her damage, cc and vulnerability are there to secure kills quickly.

It's fine if you don't know much about how to play Tyrande, but you shouldn't really talk about them if that is the case.
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>>123278505

>he plays against kts that take pyro

confirmed bronze
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>>123278608
>taking meme phonix
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>>123278124
>anything below rank 1
>not shit

Hooo boy
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>>123278435

I didn't get any request yet
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>>123278221
Malfurion isn't good on a gank heavy map like tomb because he doesn't have burst heals. He's a sustained healer that benefits when the fights go longer.
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Fucking Christ why are there so many novas my last 5 games there was at least 1 nova
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>>123277805

Having the monk means more AOE healing for the whole team, but we lack dmg, vision (that zagara dominated) bursts thanks to marked, and stuns. Malfurion is a great healer for sustained fights, but sustain wasn't an issue, ever. Everyone else can get out of roots easily. His waveclear is decent, but Azmodan was taking care of that. No matter how big the Malf heals are, a burst from a raging Sonya will cancel it.

>Azmodan not an issue

All, ALL he could ever do was pushing lanes. We were down to 2 forts and 2 keeps with them being completly untouched. We wanted Tassadar, but nooo, he wanted to play fucking stacks Azmodan when he is bugged at the time. He didn't have ANY impact in every fight. Sylvanas would have worked so much better.


>>123277852

I have been rank 1 already, got demoted after a really bad week. I get paired up with rank 1-3 players all the fucking time, I don't see any different there.

And fucking AGAIN, it wasn't just me, it was everyone that made that fight. Sheesh. OOH BUT HERE IS THE PUNCH:

>y-you are not speciaaaaal BRONZE XD!

Complete with memes. Man, you sure told me. Last time I saw I was platinum, but sometimes it changes to diamond. I don't get how that thing works.
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>>123278720
Look at your friend list.
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>>123278608
>>123278505

i was about to say this
thanks anon for not being bronze

if u die to pyroblast u deserve to lose
>>
any NA bros wanna do a qm?

TRUE#1476
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>>123278496

Soo, was all of this nonsense just you or do you actually work at Blizzard to know how really things work?
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>>123278445
>>why would kt, muradin, or azmodan benefit from innervate?
>>why would my team want a decent root?
>tales of the bronze
None of them benefit from a ranged stun, vulnerability or 15% increased damage? Mura + Tyrande is one of the best combos in the game.

I don't know anon, I'm guessing you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>123278729
i can tell from high mmr team league that malfurion can roam easily with roots

burst heal doesnt matter that much at beginning anyways unless ur diving at towers
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>>123278770
>wall_of_text.txt

Just let it go already.
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>>123278662
>taking a heroic that you can train a dog to not die from

wew lad

>>123278770

rank means dick all, and the only accurate measurement with rank is that if you're below rank 1 you're confirmed bad, and if you're rank 1 theres a huge likelihood that you're bad

you just admitted you/re borderline plat/diamond which is 2.7k~ mmr which is nowhere close to the top 6% or 2% of players

you're a substandard player playing in substandard games making substandard plays

you'll have more moments of brilliance than players worse than you but you are nowhere close to good, so get some fucking humility, although I don't expect that as you've clearly illustrated in the last few posts you think you're hot shit

>>123279008

>he asks why malf would be picked
>give him reasons
>DURRRR THIS COMBO IS BETTER UR SHITE M8

>>123279089

he can't accept that he's in the trench
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>>123279174
>wall_of_text_2.txt

Just let it go already
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>>123279174
>>he asks why malf would be picked
>>give him reasons
>>DURRRR THIS COMBO IS BETTER UR SHITE M8
You stated Malfurion was a better pick than Tyrande on tombs, not why would he be picked at all. Your reasons aren't valid.
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>>123279062
Yeah he can roam with roots, it's still not as good as Tyrande for ganking, and he doesn't have the damage or vulnerability to follow up with his CC like she does.
>>
YOU ALL ARE SHITTERS UTHER IS BEST SUPPORT
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>>123279572
>uther baby doesn't know uther is shit after the scaling changes
LOL
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>>123279287

we get it you're upset
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>>123279572
>>123279572
>not Rehgar
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>>123278496
master or whatever they end up calling it will probably end up being a lot bigger. they don't like the constant rank fluctuation and i think everyone has heard some of the rank 1s playing terribly too stories.
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>kt cries in chat "lol Zagara took nydus instead of maw, gg"

Gets killed three times while cussing me out

Push all lanes like a boss and win with a backdoor while kt gets killed again while still crying

Rest of team tells kt to stfu
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>>123279174

How many people are talking here? I don't know how I'm replying anymore. In any case, yeah, my MMR isn't as high as it was supposed to be since this is my first account, I started from zero and losed a shit-ton when learning the game. I have almost 3000 games played, and the last 2000 are miles different thatn the first 1000. All my MMR limit was set in stone ages ago, improving it takes fucking forever. I could make a fresh account and get +3500 MMR easily, but I won't. I like to play with my "low substandard" account 'cause I'm fucking lazy to start all over and I like all my unlocks.

This being said, I NEVER said I was THE hot shit. I said I wasn't carried at all, but noo, the fucking autists on this place, and specially on this board get offended by any kind of claim of a good game. Bleed you fucking pig.

>>123279572

Sadly, he is still pretty good. That Uther keeped everyone healthy, and those goddamn Divine Shields man.

>>123279867

I fought a dull dmg Rehgar the other day, he killed tanks all by himself, it was amazing.
>>
S A L E W H E N
A
L
E

W
H
E
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>>123280127

>mmr is set in stone
>it takes 2000 games for you to get to 2.7k mmr
>i COULD get to 3.5k mmr easily but i w-wont!

you
are
garbage

stop posting you faggot or go back to reddit
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>>123280385

>hotslogs is good at calculating mmr
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>>123280127
when i stopped being a shitter i was set to 2.5k

then i climbed to 3.5k

if u actually think u could be 3.5k u would be 3.5k

stop defending ur bronziness
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>>123280072
To be fair. You did take Nydus one of the worst ults in the game.
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>>123280476

>i said anywhere in my post hotslogs was perfect or even ideal
>hotslogs isn't better than nothing at all
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>>123280476
why every player ive met who is over 3.5k with more than 200 games is good

while every player under 3k is shit and medicore at best

sure hotdogs mmr is a myth sure

keep repeating that to urself
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>>123280072

Imagine how much easier it would have been if you took maw and contributed to fights instead of forcing your team to 4v5 everything

actually, nah, you're making shit up.
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>>123280180
between now and the next 4 hours
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>>123280848
>keep repeating that to yourself

I will
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>>123275405
>made the calls

we literally watched you get carried of Foerest's stream.
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>>123281581

BUT HE MADE ALL THE CALLS!
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>>123281581
>watching streams
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Which warrior should I get next? Chen, Sonya, Tyrael or Arthas?
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>this fucking guy
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>>123281742

>he doesn't watch streams
>he leaves his computer
>his day is more than playing vidya, watching streams of vidya, and fapping with the occasional shit or food run
>>
>>123281873
Senjinn donated to Horsepants telling him to play with Commander and Horsepants said he would be down if he had a us account.
>>
>>123281896
>>he leaves his computer
whoa whoa who said anything about that
I'd just rather play games than watch other people play them
>>
>>123281873
commanderNoob literally has autism, stop giving him attention
>>
foerest is really bad at azmodan, desu senpai
>>
Hotslogs is crap. Proof: in the past 30 days, I've only play HL games with a friend. Friend had 2.9k mmr and I have 2.3k.
>>
>>123282081
Azmo is bugged right now. His black pool doesn't work with Taste for Blood.
>>
>>123281870

sonya if you want an assassin, arthas if you want a bruiser, chen if you want a chen, tyrael if you want a judgement or sanctification bot
>>
>>123282195
If you don't upload replays they can't give you an accurate score on shit. Also your friend is carrying you.
>>
>>123282315
why would anyone waste their time uploading replays?
>>
>>123282041
why not eat and watch streams at the same time

or is your power level enough to multitask them
>>
>>123282410
why would I want to watch some retard play a game
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>>123282380
>press one button
>wasting time

wow i better not wipe my ass, some much wasted time
>>
>>123282380
I don't know. I don't do it, I'm just telling you that if you don't hotslog only has replays that you happen to be in from other people. Which is why a lot of the time the game is wrong about how often you play characters.
>>
>>123282503
some of them are pretty gud in the game

also muting the stream is more than recommended
>>
>>123281873
>>123281581

If you watched the goddamn match then you would know I was fucking right. Not only Azmodan was an awful pick, but he let Zagara eat the whole bot lane. He was completely useless, he never got enough stacks to justify his talent pick, and his only big contribution to the match was letting his generals do the work when we were fighting 5vs5 after a gradual comeback very late in the game.

Why would anyone praise this, goes beyond me.
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>>123282195

>hotslogs is crap
>here's an anecdote where I don't even make any sort of objective critique let alone statement of why hotslogs is crap
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>>123282380
>This mmr is bullshit man
>upload your replays for more accuracy
>lamao why would i waste my time XD
>>
>>123282380


>i want to get better
>i want help from others
>i don't want to upload a replay to help others see and pinpoint exactly what went wrong and how to fix it

bro what?
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Pretty certain we have a Takada for Anub'arak who is doing this all by himself
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>>123280127
>Could make a new account and get +3500 MMR easily
Keep telling yourself this.
>>
>>123282896
He counters Cho'Gall hard and with people picking Cho he gets more wins.
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>>123281873
i actually kek'd

keep up the good work commander
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>>123282934
i mean, if you play 30 games (20 placements + 10 after) and get very lucky, you could easily get carried up to 3500 MMR, and then just never play again ever again so that it doesn't drop on Hotsdogs (but Blizzard's MMR will still have a decay)

maybe he just wants a trophy?
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>>123282814

people forget that you need everyone else to upload their replays for your mmr to be accurate as well
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>>123282737
>did good amount of dmg
>kept constant pressure with dunks and generals
>didnt feed

>lmao why are u praising this guy XDD I WON THAT GAME FOR US I CALLED THE SHOTS AND BURST HEALED XDD
>>
>>123283359
He sounds like a Rehgar player. In that he does nothing than brags when his team wins.
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When is the sale today anyway?
>>
>>123283359
>>123283359

b-but he stunned people! he buffed them!

he pushed v and clicked on the minimap! he called the shots!!
>>
>>123283519
3 hours and 30 minutes from now
>>
New thread:

>>123283663

>>123283663

>>123283663

>>123283663
>>
>>123282934

Some guy at Neogaf did the maths, it works like that. A fresh account have an easier time climbing up it's MMR thanks to how Blizzard system works.

See:

>>123283094

And yeah, you (or most as I see) didn't get what I was trying to say. Captain Dork tried to impress me with "you'll never be good, your e-peen should be like this for it" when I said I was platinum-diamond. So I just explained how fucking EASY is to get +3500 MMR after you become good at this game.

>>123283359

>good dmg

Almost ANY other pick was better for damage, it wasn't anything to be impressed with. AOE constant-inflated dmg is meaningless when the whole other team wasn't ever in danger because of their healing and tankiness.

>constant pressure

What fucking pressure when we were losing BECAUSE of pressure? We only turned the wave when we killed Sonya on BURST dmg. That "constant dunk" was garbage.

>didn't feed

NOBODY feeded in the entire game. Did you see the end results? There is nothing there to be proud about.

>>123283359
>>123283513
>>123283669

What part of complimenting the whole team didn't you read before? Man, this is useless, my rice better be ready soon since I'm starving.
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>>123283759
Way fucking early.
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>>123283759
Ignore this
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>>123283894

>being this asshurt for being bronze
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>>123283894
now u are saying that ANY other pick was better than azmodan

i have been saying all thread to you that any real support would have been better than 2.7k tyrande
>>
>start losing
>some guy gets super butthurt and trash talks everyone else's build without actually saying what's wrong with them
>>
>tfw somehow my Hammer is shit every single time
god damn I hate this shit. WHY THE FUCK IS MINE ALWAYS CLINICALLY RETARDED DESPITE HAVING THE LEVEL 8 SKIN WHILE WHENEVER SHE'S ON THE ENEMY TEAM SHE'S GOOD AND ONLY HAS THE BASE SKIN
GO FUCK YOURSELF BLIZZARD
>>
WHERE IS THE SALES!?!?!?!?! I WANT MY STIMPACK!!!!! DO YOU NOT WANT MY MONEY BLIZZARD!!?!?!?!?
>>
>>123286369
I have the white tint Hammer and am still trash at her. I don't know why it is so hard.

I stopped sieging up as much, I keep track of my Z cooldown, I take the right talents and still I get fucked every time I play her.

My winrate with her is like 43%.
>>
>MUH KILLS
I'm surprised it took this long for me to see an assassin dickwave about kills, and that it was a thrall. it's like a double entendre
>>
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/concept/dhaka-2447

fucking when?
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>>123293808
don't even get my hopes up, new zerg never
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>>123293808
>can't even spell his name right in the name prompt
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