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>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png (embed) (embed)

>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png (embed) (embed)

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png (embed) (embed)

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt (embed)

>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn (embed)
http://fewes.se/pd2g/

>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXFHTfgTCNE
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so i herd u liek heisting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrBIt3GEXaA
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DON'T ACT DUMB
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TRANNY SHITPOSTING IN 3 2 1
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>>123026387
CHECK
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>REMOVE STAT BOOSTS FROM THE SKINS, JUST FUCKING COPY HOW CSGO HANDLES THE WHOLE SKIN SHEBANG FOR FUCKS SAKE
>REVERT THE BALANCE PATCH AND THROUGHLY TEST EVERY CHANGE BEFORE RELEASING IT LIKE IT WAS ACTUALLY DONE BEFORE AND LIKE BIG GUYS LIKE CCP DO IT
>ADD SOME NORMAL REWARDS FOR COP OWNERS, UNIQUE GUNS/MASKS/MODS/OUTFITS/STANCES, SKINS SUCK MOST PEOPLE DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEM
>GET SOME TIGHT QA FOR YOUR PAID DLC, SO WE WON'T SEE SHITTY TEXTURES/CLIPPING/FLOATING MODS/OTHER CRAZY BUGS IN CONTENT WE PAID MONEY FOR AGAIN
>GET A BUGTRACKER AND START FIXING SHIT THAT'S BROKEN SINCE GODDAMN RELEASE

Here, fixed your game, Overshill.

Tranny take note.
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cyka blyat
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>>123027426
Most games have a ">Send bug" button, wonder why the game doesn't have that shit, probably cuz
>Mods
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>First World Bank still crashes when ever the swat turret bursts in

Can these faggots fix anything?
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>>123028684
do you have mods?
what os do you run?
can I suck your cock?
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Ashley, I gotta smash your boipuss, hit me up

1 (786) 519-3708
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>>123029032
No
7
Only if you're Ashley
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>>123028605
Probably because it took them two years to implement a jumping animation? A year to copy-paste a shield to make a new ebik enemy or make some masks as infamy rewards?

They are fucking amatures who got lucky. They'll break their backs if they try anything like that bugtracker.
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>>123028684
lol
>mods
the van has been inside the bank several times I've played it, never had a problem
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Yo New Mod Person Ashley, do me a favor and tell Almir to make AP slugs worth a fuck. The single piercing projectile just isn't worth it when:

A) a pellet shotgun can wipe out a group full of dudes without really trying
B) pellet shotguns don't need to aim nearly as much because they cover way more area
C) hipfire sniper rifles do a better job than an ADS AP shotty and that's depressing
D) it is such a huge pain in the ass to replenish AP slugs with ammo drops

Suggested fix:
Huge damage increase. And I do mean huge - I should be able to roll at least 200 with Shotgun Impact Aced and AP Slugs in a Raven. If you think this is an unreasonable request, consider that the R93 and the Nagant can do the same thing without any sort of specialization, parts customization, and have better ammo reserves. AP Slugs need to be comparable to the bolt actions, otherwise they're just not worth the investment.
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>Doing a bank job
>One person on our team randomly loads into the Firestarter day 3 version of the map, mentioning he can see the money-pile in the vault
>He can walk through doors and can't interact with anyone
>Falls out of the map when he tries to go into the vault

How the fuck does this even happen?
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>>123029709
D E S Y N C
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Clover posters. Ashley posters. That is only the selfish perception of shitters. Truly skilled Heisters should try to win with the girlcock they love best. I like your style. You understand what's important. Go on, Almir's boipucci is waiting.
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>>123030363
fuck off
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>>123030363
is this some sort of pasta?
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VALVE ACQUIRES THE RIGHTS FOR PD2 AND THE WHOLE PAYDAY FRANCHISE Y/N?
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>>123031572
Why?
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>>123031926
They're more competent?
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who sokolfag here
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>>123031572
The hell they gonna do?
Gimme a damn dialog wheel while cuffing civies?
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>>123032643
>dialog wheel
What?
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>>123029836
>desync
>desync sends a man to a different version of a map
hmmm
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>>123032872
Then it's shitty mods you have installed. No way it's overkills shitty coding.
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>>123033029
I asked. Host had Hoxhud and something for music. but that was it.
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their apology was really funny to read
it amuses me they still refuse to acknowledge any of the real problems the game has
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>>123034420
I was only pretending to be retarded. Of course it's either one of the many overkill fuckups or faggot was nocliping.
Iirc the vault interior generates only after you open the door. Until that it's a grey void.

People randomly walking through closed doors are not that rare.
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>>123034642
Denial is a helluva drug.
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Just got enough money to prestige for the first time.
Anything I should do/know before I trade everything I have for a fucking pair of sunglasses?
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>>123035991
buy a bunch of guns
infamy
then sell the guns you bought
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>>123036072
Seems a good move
Thanks
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>>123029512

Jocelin Elephant Gun when
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HARD CONTACT
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>>123038916
HARDEST EVER
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>>123032643
>A:don act dumb
>B: show hands motherfucker!
>X:put your hands op!
>y:donw on your knees
>Y:
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>>123041669
>Hate white Wankas
>Hate Tricks
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So, who /sociopath/ here?
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>>123042170
He needs more VA
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>>123042170
>sociopath + bullseye aced
I am now truly iron man.
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tranny, ashley, fuckboi, trap, whatever name you like being called, please answer me, is overkill actually adding a motherfucking Jiro heist based on finding his kid? the whole hype of him was to find is son back on america but they just added him like he was some kind of regular character and forgot about him.
why i can't c4 my way in on HM day 2?

i have many many more complains and poor english but i need answer for those 2 first.
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44th for the Silent killer suppressor who doubled in size with the recent updates
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>>123044259
I doubt that she is going to say anything about a future update

She said that the door was here because of the coke so she knows shit, but fuck, who needs fucking money anyways, you can get all the fucking coke even with fucking the drills without the need of the saw
Even the fucking achievement of reaching under 210, just make it available for C4 for fuck sakes
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>>123044704
im the only retard that still use C4 on this year, everyone else bring saw's and ammo bags and shit on me for not bringing a deployable, i hate you pubs! and fucking overkill ruined tech tree by making bulletproof add 50% more armor instead of decreasing damage by 50%
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>>123044921
I’m the faggot that always says shit about that door because we can't use C4, I always bring C4, join the fucking group chat and you will see You are a fucking faggot
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>>123045093
i barely use ssteam for 2 games and one is payday 2 i have no idea how to use steam.
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>>123045241
Then why the fuck are you crying, fucking shitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRrZWoBc860
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>>123045339
>play houston
>try to dom a cop
>"DONACDUM"
>hands go up
>"DONACDUM"
>kneels
>"DONACDUM"
>cuffs
the power of donac is incredible
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>>123042170
/infiltrator/ reporting in, the damage reduction is just too good for DW once it's activated. Main problem with Sociopath perk deck is it's much of an offensive perk deck, contributing not that much to your defense or armor. Still excellent for Overkill though.
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Just got from a game of Aftershock where the truck reset twice: once while we were driving it towards where my companions were holding the safes where it reset itself back to the yard, and the second one when we were going back to the construction yard where it reset itself to the place we were holding the safes at.
Is this another goddamn bug?
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>>123047168
Never had this one before, might be desync or something like that.
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>wooden scope and see-more sight,

The absolute madmen.
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>>123048210
>ruining the Bronco by putting a flash hider on it
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>>123048501
muh stability on a revolver and also i tried to turn it into pic related.
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>>123046440
overkill is useless, the only difficulties that matter are normal and death wish
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>Get kicked for deploying an ammo bag
>Get kicked for reviving a downed heister
>Get kicked for not killing myself to revive a host
>Get kicked for killing a dominated cop while tased
>Get kicked for waiting until the turret reloads instead of trying to sprint past it in ICTV
They said the community was shit but I never believed them until tonight.
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>>123051038
>When people acts dumb
>Unironically
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>>123051038
>Get kicked for reviving host
I actually never got the meaning of that one?
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>>123051767
>"get kicked for NOT killing myself to revive a host"
IE
"Getting kicked for not going through a gauntlet of shit that is unlikely that myself and the host would be able to survive the trip to and from the death spot. By not going there and having the host die, he gets pissed off and kicks me for not listening to him"
not him btw
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>>123052075
Nope. I basically singleplayed the HoxOut garage, since noone was doing shit, and picked up the derpy host at the same. He got super-triggered and started "U REVIEV ME???? U REVIEV ME????". Kicked me in the loadout screen on d2 (after I also singlehandedly took care of the car :3). Not that it seemed to be a heist worth staying for, I just never figured out his reasoning. Maybe he couldn't figure out Inspire and thought I was h4><1ng?
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>>123042170
>tfw katana
That was a good day for having sociopath become viable
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>>123042170
I'm still wondering if I should get Hotline Miami 2 for the Sociopath deck. I'm liking Infiltrator for my melee build, and Hotline isn't exactly interesting to me.
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>>123053946
infiltrator is the better of the two. soc is a novelty fun build
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>>123054060
>novelty fun build
I mean, yeah, overkill is a novelty difficulty, but still, it's bretty gr8 when you don't have to hide behind cover pretty much EVER when you always have armor.
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>>123054060
After reviewing the two, I have came to a conclusion.
For the purposes of melee-only build...
Infiltrator is for dodge.
Socio is for armor.

I like to move fast, so I'll hold off on getting Socio.
Maybe I could merge my Sentry build with Socio... Will sentry proc the armor regen?
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ASHLEY ASHLEY ASHLEY ARE YOU IN HERE I HAVE SOMETHING VERY FUCKING IMPORTANT THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ur qt_______________________________________________________________________________
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>>>123054740
Bitch cant be here at REAL NIGGA HOURS
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>>123054785
>Bitch shouldn't be here
Fixed that for you.
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When is technician going to have less dump stat bullshit so you can get to the useful stuff on the tree?
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>>123057123
Never. You will buy sensor mines and 25% more powerful ads, and then waste your points because all the good skills are in tier 5-6.
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This mod is actually quite interesting with some of the changes. http://paydaymods.com/mods/156/SMOD
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>>123058284
>Tactical Commentator damage removed.
ebin
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>Gets called an attention whore, so decides to just not say anything.
>People then ask me to post

>>123029165
I think i'll pass.

>>123042170

Yep i am. Sociopath is one of the most sustainable/toughest decks in the games if you work out the maths behind it.

Infiltator wins in pure strength for a Techforcer but Sociopath has the advantage of regen armor on demand. It can help avoid a dependency on waiting for armor to come back at a bad moment.

>>123029512

Yeh i agree, its something they need to fix for sure. My idea i have right now is to change the way the nozzle extension works. Lets so without the shark nozzle, shotguns have a very tight spread like they used to before the update. With the shark nozzle, they have gigantic spread like they currently do. Giving people the choice between both types of performance. They could make it so shotguns get a damage buff but attacking the shark nozzle reduces damage but makes it better for groups.

>>123057123
A skill rebalance is something i want to ask about further down the line. Right now i'm focusing on talking about COP and Stat boosts with Almir.
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>>123059304
Can you get Almir to link me his dodge build?
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Want to get Tabula Rasa done and dusted, anyone wanna help?
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>>123059304
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N
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>>123059304
>Yep i am. Sociopath is one of the most sustainable/toughest decks in the games if you work out the maths behind it.
Overkill shitters everyone.
Take your trip off or leave the threads.
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>>123059304
The problem with making spread reliant on barrel mods is that it raises too many questions and causes too many problems.

1) What do silencers do to the spread?
2) What about the shotguns (Mosci, ect) that can't take barrel extensions?

Making spread type reliant on ammo type means that all shotguns can make use of them.

I mean, I'm ALL for barrel mods being more meaningful - currently the majority of them have the impact of a wet fart aside from silencers with Silent Killer/Professional. I just don't agree that they should be the go-to method of modifying pellet groupings.
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>>123059884

Yeh, like i try to explain that these are just concept ideas that i will be pitching. Things can always be ironed out in the future if its something they decide to do. They can be changed after an update due to user feedback. It's just more of a concept idea right now.

1) Silencers would probably tighten the spread if i guessed,

2) Good point, but they do have long/short barrels so maybe those could be used instead. Like i said, its just a concept of an idea. They could also consider making an ammo type for a tight spread. The issue with that would be that it means you can't get a tight spread and use another type of ammo.

Like i said, just an idea and concept that i was considering talking to them about.
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>shadow raid
>stand on the heli location before they even announce heli coming
>it still drops off guards

what did I do wrong
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>>123060152
It's my understanding that Flechette is already the go-to ammo for tight spreads, as it increases accuracy and range for the pellets. Ideally, the progression of ammo spreads should work like this (from smallest to largest):

1. AP Slugs
2. Flechette Ammo
3. Default Shotgun
4. 000 Shot
5. Dragon's Breath

The two extremes (AP Slugs and Dragon's Breath) have their own quirks to support them being extreme cases, and HE ammo is in its own special HE tier.

I'm not saying barrels/extension mods shouldn't have an impact on spread, mind you - I just feel like there's already a foundation to build upon for modifying the shotgun's projectile properties and barrels/extension mods shouldn't be the the basis of it.
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>>123060676

Even with high accuracy due to how shotguns work the spread is still so much bigger then before. Having an ON/OFF option would be a good way to resolve this.

Buff the damage of the shotguns but then increasing the spread range will cause a slight damage reduction but better crowd control.
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>>123060404
Did you jump?
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>>123060404
>being this afraid of having to dodge two more guards,
>implying you haven't cleaned the whole building before they arrive,
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>Australians will get the Paydaycon mask for free on top of the Jacket character pack.
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>>123061960

Yep! I asked Almir because we completely forgot it in the recent announcement. >.<
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>>123061960
he hates them that much huh
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>>123062009
>giving codes worth 40$ minimum to thousands of players,

Don't be surprised if you get death threats from the people who were already selling these on eBay.
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So I was looking through the code. The Blending In card in all perk decks is literally just the concealment boost from the old skill tree tier bonus. By all appearances, it's actually supposed to be a +5 concealment boost, not the +1 that the current perk decks have. I'm thinking of modding it. Y/N?
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>>123062260
do whatever you want shitter
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>>123062260
>giving a +4 concealment just because it was supposed to be like this in the beginning,

sure, what could go wrong ?
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>>123059304
>>Gets called an attention whore, so decides to just not say anything.
>>People then ask me to post

m8 if you take anything said here seriously you're not gonna last very long at all
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>get shit for free just for being Australian
WEW M8s
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>>123062260
Are you the guy that released better bots?
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>>123062373
If it was supposed to be in the game to begin with, would it be a mod or a bug fix?

>>123062767
Yeah.
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>>123063871
That's not an option
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>>123062663
It's not like Overkill blocked you a decent smg and perk deck for months.

Paydaycon mask a shit though.
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>>123064759
jacket's piece is just a vector with a shittier empty reload

sociopath is only useful on lower difficulties

You're not missing much
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>>123064759
>Paydaycon mask a shit though.
so bad I gave mine away
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>>123064759
Jacket fags are the worst
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>>123059304
F U C K O F F

U

C

K

O

F

F
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>>123065623
ashley pls dont reply to posts like that
just dont bother
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>>123065623
Thanks! So, can you actually fuck off already? Your attention whoring is getting lamer with every post.
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>>123065623
i know you think you are being witty but you really aren't
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>>123065726

Yeh i know, my fault. Won't happen again.
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>>123065726
kill yourself enabler
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>>123065623
Leave and don't come back. Attention whores aren't welcome. The people here don't actually like you they just want to fulfill their trap fetish.
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>>123065623
Why the fuck are you here anyway? The "volunteer" mods are a furry, a tranny, and a kek, none of which are popular here. You and your girldick are a fucking joke.
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>>123065813
it's just embarrassing to watch
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>>123065806
Do your parents hate you for a freak you have become?
Have you ever thought of killing yourself?
Are you fat?
When will you fuck off back to spuf?
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>the money team bonus you can gain from the weapon skins is calculated only on the contract pay and not the whole amount of loot you've stolen.

Well it's not like it would have been a huge bonus anyway but thanks of Overkill's shitty decisions, it's completely non-existant and that's not even talking of the fact it would only benefits heists with huge base pay like Hoxton's Breakout while other like Rats would be totally fucked.
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>>123066114
Does the xp bonus behave the same way?
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>>123065623
Please go. And never return.
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>>123066114
>oyveyshill cutting corners to convince the goy that they give a shit

I am just so completely shocked.
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>>123065881

Is there even something that's popular here?
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>>123066114
>payout
>important in any way
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>>123066206
/pdg/-tan's thighs, Deagle-brand Deagle, and anything that isn't an attention whore that can't figure out what chromosomes it has.
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>>123065881
>a kek
nigger what the fuck are you doing
or did kek get a new meaning when i wasn't paying attention
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>>123066312
nigger nigger haha lol l_O >>>/b/
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>>123066312
That's what c-u-c-k filters to now.
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>>123066270
>an attention whore that can't figure out what chromosomes it has
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>>123066312
>doesn't know about the wordfilter
Look at him. Look at him and laugh.
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>>123066173
should be but it's a lot less dramatic considering how the difficulty, team and skills xp bonus are calculated on the base contract xp.
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>>123066337
You've got to be fucking kidding me.

>>123066386
I keep forgetting that wordfilter shenanigans happen sometimes because I typically only browse /pdg/
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>>123066437
I didn't know those scaled into the base xp, cheers m8.
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HAPPENING
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>>123066892
Link?
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>>123066892
MEMES
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>have a mate make up an akimbo build, he is not post infamy 5 nor level 100 but is still a good enough fugitive
>we are doing aftershock
>I am bringing the MG
>but your build is for Akimbo which do a lot of damage
>There are going to be a lot of enemies so I need the MG
Which was not even at the breakpoint.

I dont get it, why some of my friends are unable to see that with a single pistol with my builds I rack up tons of kills, not me in particular, rather those who run these builds.
Also explain me this.
After the weakening that rifles and shotguns received in general, why do I still rarely see people that carry the grenade launcher which unlike many games actually like one and packs a huge punch.
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>>123067187
>why do I still rarely see people that carry the grenade launcher
I usually don't take it as my connection has some stability issues so I take an he m1014 or he crossbow instead
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>>123067341

They still have not fixed the broken piglet sight >.>
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>>123067717
Remove trip or leave.
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>>123062009
Thanks for bringing that up. I've got HM1 and PD2:HM already and was a bit miffed about the whole thing. Glad to know it'll get sorted.
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>>123067717
Grenades travel in an arc. The lower Piglet sight compensates for that. It's the same reason the flipup sights for the GL40 push the viewmodel down. It's not complicated.
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New christmas heist soon
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>>123059304

do you have nudes?[/spoilers]
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>>123068194

My bad, apologies for that. It's been a long time from when i last used 4chan so i'm not too familiar with a lot of aspects with it. Changed and i'll only use it if people have any questions directed to me personally/anything that i might know that isn't general public information that i'm able to share.
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>>123068194
I don't think you understand what tripcodes are for
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>>123069016
>Responding.
Don't encourage him.
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Stop acting dumb guys, please.
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>>123068876
You should make that time even longer.
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Sentries confirmed for having something to do with my game crashing
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This general is pure fucking cancer.
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>>123070865
Good thing you saved the day with that quality post
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What did Overkill mean by this?
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>>123070865
If by cancer, you meant grinder players, you couldn't be more right.
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>still no Cash Catchem character pack,
>http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/collectorpack/

Life is suffering.
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>>123068876
You should keep the tripcode, you know more than us which makes your answers more reliable. People will also ask you more questions if they know it's you.
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>>123073387

I will if its something "important" to say. Otherwise it just angers people because it comes across as egotistical which isn't why i'm here. I'll be posting more information when meetings are coming up ect to see what you guys think about things that should be brought up.
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>>123072771
>still no Cash Catchem music on the B-sides

It isn't fair
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I will be damned, getting the right truck on Election day by yourself in 1 minute is pure luck.
>computer
not enough time
>search for open containers
I dont see them maybe 1 sometimes
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>>123074064
literally get good
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>>123074064
50/50
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>>123074064
One glance should be all you need. Even if you can't find a container, the colors of the trucks and their companies is enough to chance it.
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>>123074284
It's only a pure 50/50 if both trucks are the same color. Otherwise you can use the other colors to make a more educated guess, depending on how many other trucks are of that color.
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>>123074292
I finally did it out of luck and finding 2 containers, except, I did 1 minute and something. Fucking hell.
>>123074403
So get what? The trucks that belongs to 1 companies and has the same color?
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>You will never go and bet on the races with Dallas
>You will never send Matt glitter with Hoxton
>You will never convince Chains to run you through a miniature basic training
>You will never listen to Wolf jabber about his favorite guns
>You will never chat with Houston over a cold root beer
>You will never scratch daisy 2 behind the ears and make Wick smile
>You will never go clothes shopping with Clover
>You will never grill steaks for the crew with Dragan
>You will never watch bad horror movies on VHS with Jacket
>You will never go one-on-one with Bonnie in the crew's gambling night
>You will never learn about Russian girls with Sokol
>You will never share a silent but approving look with Jiro after serving him acceptable sushi
>Sydney will never drink you under the table
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>>123074403
I don't see how that helps when you're rushing.
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>>123074680
You will never like and subscribe Pewdiepie char... Oh wait, you actually will!

;))))))
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>>123075041
ah nevermind I need sleep
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>>123074517
So, as always, we know that the two companies that only have one truck are possibly correct ones. If they're both the same color, it's luck/using the computer.

If you see any open crates on your way there, you can eliminate that color immediately. Voting cards have like, a 1/10 chance of spawning so you're highly unlikely to really get them.

And if you're more happy to play the odds, if one of your two potential trucks shares a color with an incorrect truck, we can assume it's not that one.

It has a pretty decent success rate, but obviously it won't beat the guaranteed methods. I'd say it improves a 50% chance to about 70%?
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Oh look, what a beautiful couple!
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>>123075998

Clean the clutter of that hud boy, pls. Why two clocks.
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>>123073505
I still want your dick in my ass btw
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>>123075998
nice skin
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Btw, someone asked about MUI and Poco yesterday. Mine looks like this.
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>>123075998
>still a male voice when converting her
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>>123076454
thanks ash
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>>123076353
>800x600
Axiom: weebs/furries are always poorfags.
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post yfw alarm is triggered on SR and you are carrying the artifact

>mfw
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>>123076786
da best epic haha lol post yfw man its 4chan culture come on
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>>123076706

I'm not a poorfag, this laptops is pretty...decent. But definitely not for gaming.
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>>123076926
Sure ;)
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>>123076353
>800x600
>Loco with rail
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>>123077070

Why not. It's awesome, destroys everything on Overkill and in DW, with the damage boosting skills it's still really reliable for groups of people. Having 10 Magazine is really comfy.
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>>123077229
Why would you put rail on that gun
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>>123077442

Again, 10 mag. And why not. It's not like it has any downsides.
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>>123077503
>implying that turning the shotgun into an abortion is not a downside.
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>>123077620

So, because it's "an abortion" you wouldn't improve a gun?

Literally autism.
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>>123077503
>implying loco doesn't look infinitely better like this
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>>123078136
i bet you're the kind of people to buy skins
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>>123078136
wow

spooky
>>
>>123078136

For some reason I just realized what was the rail. I was...thinking about where the shells are.
Anyways, being honest, I don't really care how it looks.
>>
Who the fuck even cares about Payday 2 anymore
Why are you still playing after the COP skin thing?
>>
>>123078451
No I don't actually
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>>123078692
Personally i'm not. Just here for drama and shitposting.
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>>123078692
It's fun.
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>>123078504
>For some reason I just realized what was the rail. I was...thinking about where the shells are.
>>
>>123078692

Because I didn't bought the COP, neither skins and I still have fun with the game, and I play it with friends and I'm currently not interested in other games, but that doesn't mean that I support Overkill.
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>>123078804
>>123078872
>>123078931
But like
What the fuck is there to even talk about anymore.
this game is such a mess that there is literally nothing ever worth mentioning.
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>>123078504
u wot
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>>123079106

We come here to shipost.

>>123079119

ENGLISH IS NOT MY NATIVE LANGUAGE, I GOT CONFUSED, OK???
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what do you guys think of my mask ?
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>>123079207
That would be shell rack sir
free english lesson here at /pdg/
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>>123079357
vintage meme
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>>123079357
america fuck yeah xD
>>
>>123079357
>chrome blue instead of jeans
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>>123079357
I think you're the 59566th person to make that mask.
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>>123079560

I know it's shell rack but for some reason my brain acted dumb and confused the two words.
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Any criticism would be nice.
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>>123077620
You're one of those retards who thinks pure guns are only good.

AK in it's base form is a piece of shit gun.
Rail it, polymer it, add reasonable charging handle on it and it is not garbage.

Holosights have become standard. Having no holos means you're at an disadvantage. ergonomic controls have become standard. Not having them means you're at an disadvantage. Bolt catch releases have become standard. not having them means you're at an disadvantage.
If your gun has them, congratulations, you own a modern, competetive firearm.
If you can mod them on your gun, good, your gun is not shit.
If you can't, your gun is shit.
If you won't you're retarded.

Guns aren't fashion items, they are tools.
>>
>>123080179
eh hotline meymey shit is soooo overplayed desu
>>
>>123080341
I want to know if it looks nice, not if you like the goddamn mask.
>>
>>123080179
objectively holtine miami is shit but that's not my opinion
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>>123080678
looks like shit
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>>123080896
How do I make it not look like shit
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>>123081501
piss on it
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>>123081773
Piss is not good for the mask.
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>>123080179
Sunset tend to work better for this Tony mask but it's fine too, although not that much incredible or anything.
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>>123082341
Should have used that style on Graham, since it looks like a literal chink
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>>123082849
It's a lot more distorted on the graham mask, just stick to simpler patterns like the "shut up and bleed" one.
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>>123082341
Sunset works on fucking everything. I love it
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>>123072620
>Chivalry mask
Get real son
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>that one pubbie who believed that adding an infamous level every hour and a half wouldn't raise any suspicions,
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>May the force be with you
what did he mean by this?
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>>123087318
He's talking about the police force.
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>they put out a big "apology"
>it basically boils down to "WE SWEAR WE'LL FIX IT GUYS"
Fuck you oyveyshill I have put an obscene amount of money into your fucking game and your half-assed dlc you don't get to fucking double dip with microtransactions too.
I hope somebody burns your headquarters down.
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>>123087318
>tfw Gage will never stand up against Greta,

No wonder he goes in weird trips in order to avoid her.
>>
>>123090771
was gage a cʊck?
>>
>>123086159
>Stalking peoples achievements

desu senpai baka
>>
There are so many favours and so many assets to spend them on in the Golden Grin preplanning that I'm not quite sure what to use. Any tips for loud? Stealth assets seem pretty straightforward.
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>>123091426

C4 limo
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>>123091426
For loud, I always rock airlift exit; it makes the loot moving a lot quicker and easier, especially if you're lucky and aren't the only one not in the vault.

Other than that, all you need to spend it on are upgrades and some attachments, but prioritise upgrades since most attachments are sorta minor. The only attachment I really like is the mounted battery because it means you only have one cable to watch for instead.
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>>123091426
>Any tips for loud?

Most important of all, take the van escape because you will soon find out that moving 25 bags to the Limo is everything but fun. Also the BFD assets that remove the time needed for the drill to fuck shit (and maybe the one that remove a box to look after) up are really important too. Rest is debatable.
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>>123092007
Dont listen to this nigger always take the blimp escape and then the bags out of the hole you came into
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>>123092007
In loud van is just limo in the opposite direction. Pretty much everyone I've ever played with just tosses bags out through the convenient hole and so blimp is the closest escape.
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>>123091238
>not being bothered at all by a XXV-100 player with a DW mask joining a lobby,

Donacdum
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>>123093216
>3,2,1...YOU'RE DONE
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>>123078136
Am I the only one who knows about the foldover stock?
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>>123097901
No, why?
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>>123098061
They look so good on the 3 shotguns you can put them on.
Picture missing cause I'm on laptop
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>>123098462
>Loco/Reinfeld,
>Muldoon stock looking good,
>>
what determines your payout and xp when you join a heist mid game?
>>
>>123101872
K/D Ratio
>>
Who /dodgeless grinder/ here
>>
>>123104502
But you NEED to play Grinder like Rogue
>>
best rifle for stealth?
>>
>>123104886
Valkyria
>>
r8 my build guis
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/ea:tQNPKHIEfBCa:fPLHJFBCDa:::
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>>123105692
>http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/ea:tQNPKHIEfBCa:fPLHJFBCDa:::
>Sentry build
>Ever
Shit, dont act dumb
>>
>>123104659
>What is flamenwerfer
>>
>>123104659
No you don't, silly.
>>
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mDa:eqokMHIjEFDa:ghEfgCDa:froKMHJEGCa:ibcdea:pR8::w40-27-5-12:s49-2-10:a1
rate my shotty build
>>
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/eDa:gqnplMhIEfGCda:fqRnOLijEFGCDa:ia:pc0R8::w80-12-9:s18-36-34-12:a3
how is this for a stealth/dodge build?
decent?
>>
>>123107194
>memeserker aced
ayy
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>>123108841
why not? 100% excessive damage is just an added bonus
>>
>>123109674
Why not get ammo instead? You're stuck with shitty faks otherwise
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>>123104659
>being shit
>>
how can overshill make sentries viable
or better, if you were to replace all the sentry skills, what would you put in instead /pdg/?
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>>123110432
hacking skills
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>>123104886
Anything with good concealment. You'll never need more than a silenced pistol, and you can even manage using melee and shuriken or playing cards exclusively
>>
>>123110432
shield penetration

That's literally it
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>>123110432
Give us the ability to fix sentries
Make it so that sentries don't fucking die if they run out of ammo
Skill to give sentries shield piercing ammo
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>>123107194
>zerker
Unnecessary for a pump shotty, or at all, really.
>chameleon basic, cat burglar ace
Completely unnecessary, consider throwing the cat burglar ace to chameleon ace, if at all.
>brother's keeper
Highly situational, consider Winstone Wolf

You also have 2 more concealment to play around with, consider a compensator on the Raven. You'll hit 4 detection risk.

>>123107410
>1 infamy
EVER
>professional basic
Unnecessary for semi auto weapons like those.
>no underdog or endurance
EVER
>lockpicking expert basic
If you ever pick that up, get ace, it's handy.
>bullseye, trigger happy,
Always questionable

You have skills in ECMs, First Aid, and Body Bags. Pick one.
You have alot of spare concealment for full effect of SBLB Ace, but going any higher will hurt stealth, even slightly. Please consider either getting bigger guns or smaller guns with SBLB Basic.
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>>123110943
I just picked a random primary and the deagle to go with silent killer aced really, I have no idea what primary to use with stealth crit like that
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>>123110432
>>123110894
This, along with the ability to pick up sentries if they're at full ammo, and change the ammo resupply rate from 100%sen<>100%pri+100%sec to 100%sen<>90%equiped or something.

Sentries are nice, it's just that they don't last long if something shoots a .22lr to their sides. The sentry shield is nigh required, it blocks everything infront.
Shield piercing ammo might be... eh... Probably make it so that it won't shoot at shields would be better so the hard counter is still there.
>>
>>123110432
selective targeting so sentries aim for specials first
but not shields tho
>>
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mDa:eqnoKHIjEFDa:ghEgCda:fqroKMIJEGCa:ibcdea:pR8::w40-27-5-9-12:s49-2-10:a1
>>123110943
better or worse?
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>>123110432
MOAR SKINS
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>>123075998
>downed less than a minute into the game
Oh my.
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>>123113204
You clearly have no idea what those revolver FBI dudes do to suit builds. Even with max Dodge or Grinder they melt your ass.
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>>123113396
SHITTER
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>>123112913
Better and acceptable.
Hard Boiled and Shotgun CQB Ace are unnecessary, but whatever floats your boat. I'd throw the CQB Ace into Fully Loaded Ace and Die Hard Ace into Tech -> Nerves of Steel Basic and maybe Thick Skin Basic.
Go nuts, you'll be fine.
>>
>>123113396
Yes they do a lot of damage but they only have 30hp so
git
gud
>>
>>123029709
>SHAWN
Did you scream SHAUUNNN nonstop when he fell through the map?
>>
>>123114050
yeah, it was epic and everyone gave me reddit gold afterwards ;D
>>
anyoen wanna do any of the following
>meltdown DW
>Alesso DW
>Dockyard DW
>>
>>123116783
Get me for Alesso/Dock, fuck Meltdown, they ruined the Longfellow >Muh drifting and 180 spins
>>
threadly peak reminder
>16k
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>>123118648

>6,680

D E A D
G
A
M
E
>>
whats a good way to play psicopath?
>>
>>123121460
>psicopath
try that again
>>
What's a good way to play psychopath?
>>
What's a good way to play gambler?
>>
>>123107410
Shit, I forgot.
>LBV
>Rogue
You what.
If you're using LBV, pack Crook.
>>
What's a good way to play burglar?
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>>123035002
Leave Daniel alone
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THE AO IS fucking dead
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Ded
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>>123125340
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>non-australians on the steam forums butt devastated that they can't have free shit
HAHAHA SUCKED IN , CUNTS
>>
YEAH
>>
>>123131739
I don't get this meme.
Is it a PD:TH reference?
>>
>>123134794

No. Le Castlevania song.
>>
>>123134794
its from one of the le castle vania songs
>>
What's the go to saw set up now? Damage increase doesn't seem to be enough to one click anymore
>>
>>123137534
You can open deposit boxes with one fucking tap
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>>123137620
Maybe not without the drill skills that I should have had. I think that's why it felt so much weaker.
>>
>>123138158
You haven't even tried it right you fucking shitter
>>
CENTER MASS FOR FUCK'S SAKE
>>
IS THAT A FUCKING SAW?
>>
DOUBLE TAP
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>>123142892
TRIPLE TAP
>>
>>123137534
>>123137620
Saw damage was nerfed in the recent rebalance update so you can't one tap deposit boxes without beserker anymore, even with those 2 damage increasing weapon mods.
>>
>>123142949
JUST KEEP TAPPING!
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>>123143231
See >>123138317
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>>123113396
They also die with one shot.
One fucking shot.
All you have to do is shot them first.
Git gud anon.
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So I got a bunch of the death wish job achievos today. 4Store, Nightclub, and Firestarter Pro.

Granted, DW is easier than its ever been, but still.

Pic is how I feel about this development
>>
>>123145304
>Not having 4Stores and Nightclub on DW
>The most easy heists
>>
>>123145304
I bet you stealthed them as well lol
>>
>>123146208
I've been playing for awhile and I've never gotten the achievement for GO Bank on Death wish, finished it once but I joined in progress.
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>>123148950
Wanna do the heist now?
>>
>>123149048
Nah man, late as fuck in Burgerland. appreciate the offer tho
>>
>>123149101
Wankers can't be up at real heisters hours I see, if you are wasting time now, waste it on the heist
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>>123143308
tried it with fast motor and sharp blade for a 30.4 damage saw

still took two
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>>123149910
An update fixed that shit and they take one fucking tap, only one
>>
>>123150080
well I just did it and it took two

though I am in the re-rebalance beta
>>
>>123150185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRrZWoBc860
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>>123150185
>Crying about deposit boxes when using the beta
Sometimes, stupid is the right word Still, I'm not using the beta but it doesn't says anything about the saw, so it should be the same fucking thing
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>>123150296
>>123150450
well I tried it right before the beta and I'm pretty sure it also took two but I don't really feel like disabling the beta to check

wouldn't put it past ovk to fuck it up again
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>>123150886
>I don't really feel like disabling the beta to check
I lied

still two
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Daily reminder to ace Carbon Blades or take Berserker basic if you intend to one-tap safes, beta or not. There is no other ways to get this breakpoint for the moment until Overkill_Jules get his head out of his ass.
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>>123145304
>implying that Nightclub or 4 stores was ever hard in the first place,
>>
>>123072620
I miss my CAR-4 and rogue swap speed.
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>>123148950
>GO Bank DW
Sometimes I feel bad about spending time to carry pubs through loud DWs because they'll think they earned it. It's definitely fun to do when they keep insisting on stealthing it on every retry.

On some heists like Hoxton Breakouts and Rats, I never do objectives and just focus on staying alive and maybe trading hostages for them just to make them learn to do it on their own. Once spent 55 minutes on HB Day 1 until they realised that there were doors in the basement level. FF Day 3 is a good mention for excessively long fun times.
>>
>>123154236
Dumb shit they dont changed Shinobi ACED, is the same shit that Silent Killer ACED, why they don't make it something like increased swap speed, charged melee attacks while running or throwables that can be recovered being able to pierce enemies
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>>123154969
>Sometimes I feel bad about spending time to carry pubs through loud DWs because they'll think they earned it. It's definitely fun to do when they keep insisting on stealthing it on every retry.

From my experience, it's the exact opposite for DW. Pubbies will always feel like hot stuff for stealthing Go Bank or Nightclub, they're too scared to go loud on this difficulty.
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>>123078692
Cause I got a skin that's worth around 100 dollars from that shit
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>>123158253
>safe Crasher Car-4,

Hope you get good money from it because it's the ugliest skin available.
>>
>>123158473
It's a mint condition Extra Vaganza for the magnum. but it doesn't have any stat boosts which I figure would have brought up the price. It's still selling around 75-115 dollars though
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what perkdeck as mustardforcer?
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>>123159636
Muscle is a must if you have Hostage taker aced, if not just choose between sociopath, infiltrator or muscle.

Hope you're having an ICTV out of this build.
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>>123159636
muscle, infil is only worth it if you hvae BP, soci is fine if you're not on DW.
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So why aren't you using the flamethrower or the Vulcan Minigun with Low Blow aced yet ?
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>>123160784
I use the crithrower on ovk, idk about the minigun but with the flamethrower on DW it just uses too much ammo.
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>>123042170
I looove hurting other people.
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Hey i just wanted to say, i'm going to be asking them to buff the saw damage again so you can 1 hit boxes without carbon blade aced again.
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>>123159773
WICK!
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>>123161314
ask them for a proper fucking rebalance instead. Getting saws un-nerfed would just render Carbon Blade useless (just like a fuckton of other skills).
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>>123161314
Thanks. The best scenario would be they just revert the stats to the update 78 where people just had to choose between the "Fast motor+Sharp Blade" or "Fast Motor+Durable Blades+ Carbon Blades basic" combos in order to open ATM and deposit safes in one-tape.
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I'm wanting to make a Fugforcer build. Any advice?
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>>123161314
While you're here, I was wondering if it was possible to ask about sentries too? I don't think sentries need a major buff, but certainly I feel that sentries are something you basically need to wholly invest in if you want any use out of them, and oftentimes you don't.
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>>123162835
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mjBDa:eqrokLHIFgDa:ghECa:fROKEGBCda:ibcdea:pN8::w27-22-33-15-5-13-37:s49-10:a1

Although using Grinder might give you enough protections, even for DW, i really advice you to stick your detection risk to a level under 25 so you can get the 10% dodge bonus and the 30% critical hits.

Using the Saiga with Overkill basic and Low Blow should definitely be an interesting experience.
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>>123162993
If you can get an health or armor regen for every kill your sentries do or simply the ability to move them to other locations, this would make them a lot more valuable and interesting.
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>>123162993

Yeh from what i've read there seems to be a major issue with sentries right now dying with a single shot. I'm not sure if its true or not but i've think i've observed this happening myself.

Sentries need reworking and overall many of the skill trees. Ammo regeneration over time would be something to consider instead of the awful current system that is never worth it.


You guys got to understand though that right now fixing the mess of COP and Stat boosts is my main concern right now. Overkill simply doesn't have any trust at the moment. They could cure cancer and everyone would still hate them due to the extremely low trust right now.

I'll be trying to get more involved with the guy who does weapon balancing but if he's not interested in listening i can't really do much more atm.

>>123162691

Yeh it was perfectly fine before the update, no idea why it was changed. If you had carbon blade, you could go for the durability blade, giving it an actual use. Now you have to use the sharp one no matter what.
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>>123163645
>fixing the mess of COP and Stat boosts is my main concern right now.

Stats boosts are too much of a trouble to be dealt with, removing them would be the final nail on the coffin for Overkill since they would fuck everyone who used the steam market, unless if they give the ability to be refunded, which is even more a pain if the ass considering how steam got a share of the money involved. Beside, you don't have any proof that the vocal minority on the steam forums will get quiet after this, trying to please retards is a shit objective.

For the COP, giving to the owners of the dlc who spent 20 dollars on this the ability to get drills and safes through card drops would be the best middle ground for the moment.

Also, going full CSGO and making really shitty skins (like minigun skins worth 3 cents) would be a nice addition that would help Overkill to pretend the system is not as P2W as pretended.
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>tfw opening the two ATM on Hoxton's Breakout day one,

I guess the 14,5 millions Hoxton promised for breaking him out just weren't enough
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>>123110943
>>brother's keeper
>Highly situational, consider Winstone Wolf
What?
Brothers keeper is hands down the worst skill.
There is not a single situation where this is useful, ever. EVER.
You're fucking retarded for even saying it's situational. I bet you fucking cheated your way to infamy and can't finish heists on very hard even, since what you said just now is so incomprehencebly retarded
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>>123164467
>vocal minority
Hi Almir!
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>>123168101
You could say it's situational because there are jobs with thugs, but... there's like, what, three, four? Hotline, Oil, Rats and Firestarter, I think. And those thugs might do a bit of damage but they go down in one.
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>>123168594
>Those smg snipers on Rats day two,

Almost worth to ace it because how the Rof of the Cobra is wrecking everyone.
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>>123169071
>he hasn't played during that time when Bronco cops and gangsters were as deadly as Skulldozers
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>>123159773
>White Chains

every

single

time
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>>123159773
>Dallas
>Black suit
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>>123169389
>update fucking 11,

I spent those four days farming money cards on Four Stores and jewelry store normal because of it being the best way to get money considering how the payout being fucked up.

Shit was just not funny.
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>tfw just noticed all the money floating in the air in Counterfeit
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>>123168594
Situational as in for that one situation where you are faced with bunch of low hp low dmg enemies who are slow to react

Oil day 1 unless you go loud, you can literally walk non stop trhough the house and kill everyone and stay stealth
Firestarter they are piss easy and won't pose a threath for the 30 seconds they are alive
On rats there's 5 thugs. Hotline ones are also generic low hp low damge thugs.

Sure it's situational. The situation is "Help, I get downed by FUCKING THUGS and failing the heist because of that". Honey, "brother's keeper" is not a solution, getting papers and help to solve your fucking retardness is.

Even back in
>>123169389
days they weren't a problem. Fuck they are there like 1 minute before a cop arrives. even if half your crew goes down to fucking thugs, there's plenty and I mean PLENTY of time to recover.
Each second in DW is more dangerous than a year spent fighting piss ass thugs
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>>123169967
>tfw they reused the same assets on Rats day three when the bus blow up.
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>>123169794
Source on that photo
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>>123170041

There was an update that broke the damage values. It meant that 1 shot could instantly down most players from veteran cops and gangsters. The game was pretty much unplayable for a week. 1 vet cop could take down the whole team within less then 2 seconds and they had 100% accuracy.
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>>123170224
>mfw they reused rats day 1 map for cook off
>mfw they reused harvest trustee bank 4 times in firestarter day 3, bank heist gold, bank heist cash, bank heist deposit
>mfw they reused go bank, a map they did not even make
>mfw FWB and Slaughterhouse are literal one on one copies of heists in PD;TH
fucking lazy devs
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>>123170346
Must've missed that update I guess.
So brothers keeper is only useful never or on the 0.00001% chance that ovk does the same fuckup twice, and even then for one week only

bros keeper worst skill ingame
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>>123170429
>Must've missed that update I guess.

Too bad, people were struggling so much it was almost funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW_2XWNZT0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEla7zjv3xE
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>Donacdumb teaches you how to DW
>"Don't Act Dumb" = Self Explanatory, don't act dumb
>"On the godamn ground" = Hosteges are important for getting folks out of custody as well as delaying assaults
>"Get on your feet" = Having inspire is a godsend
>"Fuck" = Its a black dozer. Get out.
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>>123171420
Its like poetry
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>>123171420
>>"Fuck" = Its a black dozer. Get out.
das raysis
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>>123171071
Damn I miss Spaz I wonder if he keeps up on what's going on in the game and what are his opinions on how the game changed
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>>123152831
ofc you ace carbon blade?
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mda:eqSpkLHIeFDa:tOpmIJFGbCda:ghECda:feGCa:ibcdea:pN8::w76::a1
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>being a saw bitch
>ever
lmao @ you all
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>>123170041
Hey, I'm agreeing with you. Brother's Keeper is pretty much useless, but on a semantic level it is situational. It's just that in the situation you might use it in, it has no use.
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>>123173353
enjoy your long heists with shitty payouts.

C4+Saw Techforcers are the future.
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>>123170353
>FF day 3 is the only heist where Bain suggests you to redo
>you aren't able to
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>>123175804
:trollface:
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Just one
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More /pdg/-tan/Kawaii lewds when?
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>>123177630
Never, too many faggots in this thread and what few lewds of her there are aren't good.
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>>123175804
Thermal drill asset for the Senator's appartement job when ?
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>>123177923
>Shoutout Raid
>Art Gallery.
>No heist where you go back to the senators apartment after FFD3, blow it the fuck up, and air lift his vault out.
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does the game not have a japanese translation?
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Weren't the dallas safes the COP reward?
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>>123178748
>mfw jiro gets yellow text subtitles like early kung fu movies
>mfw new triad heister who speaks poorly lip synced english dub
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>>123177630

never
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NINE LIVES IS SO GOOD WHY IS IT IN THE GHOST TREE
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>>123181524
>Going down.
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>>123178946
No, COP skins are the rewards the community waited for six months. The Dallas skins are more the icing on the cake where their main interest is instead of giving classic stat bonuses, they give a bigger team bonuses, in that case +3%.

COP skins are kinda like the "middle ground" of this mess, giving the classic stat bonus with a +1% team bonus.
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>>123182397
You mean icing on the cake of shit that was everything since crimefest
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>>123181973
>I never go down ever even on DW
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>>123182898
The only thing I've ever gone down on is your mom.
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>>123182710
if it wasn't for the micro-transactions or the rebalance update confusing everyone, this crimefest event could have been the best one considering the number of masks and heists released.
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>>123183187
>Masks
>Mattering anymore.
The best one already came out long ago. New ones don't matter.
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>>123183345
lol i like hotline miami too xD sick game!
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So how does Better Bots work? If I download and host, will it take affect in online crime.net games? Meaning, can I use them with the gf to finish clearing the last couple DW heists we need to clear up these chieves?
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>>123183345
>tfw replaced Time window by Iamthekidyouknowwhatimean-Run and is addicted to this track since then.

It's surprising Overkill didn't try to cash in by making a Hotline Miami music dlc. A lot of people would pay to get a clean version of Roller Mobster or Future Club for their Hoxton's Breakout games.
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>>123183345
That's not the best mask though.
This is
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>multi day heists, where you spend the first 1-2 days casing the place, coming up with a plan and laying out the assets for it accordingly
>last day you get to initiate the plan you used and assets you plaved in either stealth or loud heist
>like fwb but instead of running in, you have to stealth and place the cans or place c4 or blackmail insider ,find out how vault works etc
>tfw heist/game like this never
>tfw game or heist about it never
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>>123185014
If there is anything that GTA:O showed us, it's those kind of multi-days jobs are a lot more frustrating and almost unplayable with your average pubbies and beside, you wouldn't be able to change your skill builds to fit the stealth or loud approach required, which would make things a lot more difficult.

Just watch how the Elephant jobs usually goes, people couldn't care less about the intels or anything.
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>>123185014
>multi day heists, where you spend the first 1-2 days casing the place, coming up with a plan and laying out the assets for it accordingly
novelty would wear off quickly and unless devs were geniuses, all the preplanning process would by streamlined by players after they play through the heist a few times. It would be repetitive and boring.
Overkill already have a pretty good, if limited, preplanning system. Expand on it, give more options, maybe add some fluff like short video clips or at least bits of text. There are many things that are wrong with this game but preplanning definitely isn't one of them. Even if it could be better.
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>>123185668
GTA:O heists were shit just because if two people died you have to restart from the beginning. It's even worse when it splits you into two teams with different jobs and one team constantly fails.
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>>123185668
>playing with pubbies
if you've played enough so that only DW provides a challenge, you're damn straight found a decent group of people to play with.
>>123185749
payday is really big on randomization. different layouts and different assets being available meaning you can't do that 1 optimized path all the time. it's not about giving diffrerent keys to the same door, it's about giving different blocks.

Sure preplanning is good addition and perhaps one of the most solid parts of the game, this is about immersion and atmosphere and encouraging team discussions.

There's planning allready in the game, similiar to that, eg if you want to stealth firestarter day 1 or something, it'd just play off of that meta and make it part of the game. It would be cool and a better addition than drivable cars
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>>123183803
no one uses better bots?
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>>123186648
i do but i'm not telling a filthy chad
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>>123186726
I see a random forum where someone says that it can be used online, guess I'll give it a shot when I get home.
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What if Technician got a skill that improved the efficiency of barricades on windows? With an aced variant that gave access to a Boards asset to barricade two windows with? You could safely get rid of Mag Plus and make that the Tier 1 skill for the middle column instead, desu.
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>>123187003
sounds good.
Some skills would be nice that worked on electric boxes and hacking tho.

skills need a compelte redo.
Right now everything is all over the place and there's no grand design.

Should be healer/crowd control tank/saw, stealth/technology and general tree, last of which has all the utility bag handling and higher tier ones let you specialize in weapon types, but shit like suppressors being in stealth trees.
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>>123187931
I feel like of all the trees, Mastermind and Enforcer are the most focused. Technician has focus, but all the niches it serve feel stretched out; the trip mine skills take up a lot of space for not much gain (i.e explosion radius), and so on.

Fugitive is the weirdest, it's just a hodge-podge mess of things. Needs some real redoing.
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>>123182397
Ah, fanks4tehclarification :3
I was just surprised to see the Dallas thingy when I started up the game for the first time in a couple of weeks now.
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>>123090771
Gage will never stand up against anyone. Bacause he's in a web series.
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Things I do in loud pubs:
>Don't start drills on most objectives
>Don't fix most drills unless it's the dumb way to do it
>Never buy assets unless I actually care about succeeding or doing something quickly
>Never revive a pub who nades or RPGs me, especially indoors.
>Never loot anything in Four Stores unless it's from a safe or it's a courier mod
>Never pick up keycards on the ground in Nightclub
>Never restart a Normal Jew Store if the pub fucked it up
>Always bring a single ECM for an ATM in Mallcrasher
>Never do objectives on H&Ts, get autism packs only
>Never start drilling the cam room door in FF Day 1 / Art Gallery
>Never start the hack to lower the bars in FF Day 1 / Art Gallery
>Never look for keycards in FF Day 3
>Never drill the doors in FF Day 3
>Never touch a power box that I wasn't assigned to guard
>Never touch a power box in ED Day 1
>Never find the computer in ED Day 1
>Never start the hack in ED Day 1
>Say "Yes" if pubs ask if the second half of the database is needed to escape
>Never touch an objective in ED Plan C
>Never touch cage door drills until all voting machines are hacked, then they become maximum priority.
>Never open lockboxes in Transports
>Always grabbed the pre-change blueprints unless told not to.
>Never hacked a computer in Big Bank
>Never dropped the pig, hold out until wave is over and send them up to do it again after trading
>Never picked up a keycard
>Never fixed the timelocks
>Never touched a power box in Dockyard
>Don't cook meth in Rats or Cook Off unless I care about succeeding
>Spend all of Rats Day 2 collecting autism packs
>Never help loot the bus on Rats Day 3
>Never touch objectives after the initial mobster rush in HM Day 1
>Never use my spare crowbar to open crates
>Always turn on the sprinklers in HM Day 2
>Never touch objectives in the garage in HB Day 1
>Never touch objectives in HB Day 2 except picking up keycards for upstairs and escape doors
>Never touch the power box in ops
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>>123188782
At least MOST of the fug crap serves some sort of purpose (BK and Dd aside). Tech is like 10pts of worthless filler.
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>>123188823
>Ah, fanks4tehclarification :3
What the fuck?
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>>123189112
And that's just getting to shaped charges. Half the tree is basically useless if we're talking point-by-point. :/
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>>123188980
why?
>>
Lads

meltdown dw

join the chat
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>>123188980
and here we have this guy who is publicly announcing he's so bad he needs to be carried by pubs
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>>123188980
>Never help with objectives after finishing bagging all the artifacts in The Diamond
>Always throw weapon bags into Cloaker alley in FS Day 1 so pubs might get a clue and stop running outside
>Never touch a nuke in Meltdown
>Never drive anything in Meltdown
>Always drive off by myself in Car Shop if nobody is ready to leave immediately
>Implying Car Shop is a stealth heist
>Secure autism packs and extra loot in Big Oil Day 1 but never touch the Titan safe
>Never tell pubs which engine is the correct one in Day 2
>Never tell pubs that you can't restart Pro Jobs until after they start
>Never call the boat in Watchdogs Day 2
>Always make sure to give pubs the Fish AI achievement
>Never defend coke bags they put into the pickup truck if not DW
>Never guard power boxes in GGC
>Never shoot the wires in Slaughterhouse (apparently they're invisible to pubs)
>Aggressively drill everything in Forest but leave it to pubs to find the explosives

I think that's everything I can think of ATM.

>>123190184
Why not? Pubs are never going to learn if somebody keeps fixing their messes for them, and DWs are pretty boring for me these days. Watching Infamy X's panic and wonder why objectives aren't magically completing for them is pretty entertaining.

I'd rather spend 80 minutes doing a FF DW Day 3 loud while idly shooting cops than spend 20-30 minutes doing all the goddamn work while screaming at the pubs to follow directions. It's not like I'm sabotaging them.
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>>123190948
You're incredibly autistic.
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>>123191092
Of course I am. It's a requirement for being in /pdg/.
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>>123190948
Man, I like you... I love the pubs that just stay out of the way but fend for themselves while I do all the obj... I'm talking doing all 6 bags while pushing the objs and still coming out with most kills.
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>>123188980
>>123190948
/shitterbloggeneral/
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>>123191315
Fuck you, not only did I get a great laugh, but I think he has a point, if he likes shooting cops, then let him shoot cops... it's bullshit to expect 1 guy to do everything... Big Bank for example, once the pig is dropped, I do nothing but shoot cops while the pubbies do the drill and saw and move bags, it actually saves a lot of time rather than me having to saw and fight at the same time while picking them up non stop.
>>
>I don't like doing everything
>Does nothing so someone else has to do everything
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>>123191713
> I don't like doing everything
> So I won't do everything

Also
> someone else has to do everything
> 3 other "capable" people
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>Overkill animators change the animations of the greatsword and Blaster but still can't fix the reload animation of the Nagant,

I guess the payday gang really need to offer an extra bullet for the god of RNG.
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>>123190319
pls respond
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>>123185014
Sounds like evryone would just get bored by this after one day
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>>123185014
The problem with stealth games is that they're basically puzzle games.

Unless it's some magical shit like Tetris or Bejeweled, it is going to get boring reeeeeeaaaaaaaaal fast. And even then, it'll probably still turn off a large majority.

All the RNG has ever done for us - at least the way OVK did it - is frustrate us and piss us off to no end. Another game with a multi-day RNG stealth heist is just going to be that.
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>>123188980
Old Pasta
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>stop playing payday 2 after microtransactions
>move to KF2
>KF2 is now getting skins, crates, and microtransactions
At least the skins themselves can drop in KF2, and are all just cosmetic
>>
What are the odds we will get the blame for the KF2 recent microtransactions ?
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>>123190948
>>123188980
you got bigger problems than shitty pubs, my friend.
You could've just said "I don't do objectives on pubs" instead of 2 posts of shitposting.

Autismal bastard i feel sorry for you. Hows it feel to never feel a womens touch?
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>>123194337
Which do you like more, KF2 or Payday2? I've been musing whether to buy KF2 but one, it seems dead and two, kind of featureless.

Dat melee class though. Too bad I don't own Chivalry.
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>>123193868
RNG in fwb is pretty pointless, just changes minor locations. It's barely a frustration. Only rng I can think of that's frustrating is nightclub DW, where cameras or that one fucking guard behind a door may spawn, making stealth impossible.

I'm simply meaning what if RNG changed big things instead of little shit like where cage boxes are. And to balance it you had 1 casing day to brace and plan for it.

Kinda like election, where day 1 changes outcome of day 2.

Kinda like big map, where loot will be next day, actions you do eg cutting wires or thermaling shit or placing assets are gonna change guard rotations, camera locations and open doors. And then during the break between days something could happen.

Kinda like 2 day heist on same map but day 1 is enjoyable stealth/loud that changes how day 2 plays out and you get to sway RNG in your favor.

Would be interesting
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>>123194337
>KF2 waited until after the game came out to tell people it was early access.
>Now adding microtransacitons.
I wish I could make one purchase I would not regret.
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>>123195042
It will make day-specific achievements hell on earth.
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>>123194824
The grind is a bit different, and if you like PD's customization you'll miss it in KF2. Also, it was rough moving over because almost none of my skill from PD2 translated over so I got my ass handed to me even on Hard for a while. KF2 also has a lot less content, but it IS only Early Access, and there is mod support. Playerbase is smaller in KF2 as well.
All in all I think I enjoyed old PD2 more but those days are long gone
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>>123194824
KF2 is the more boring of the two games. Think about that.
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>>123194359
Hey, there was no need to quit the game, shit happens on DW, especially on open maps.
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>>123196825
meant for >>123192656
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>>123195283
Not any more difficult than getting past the bouncer in nightclub without knowing anything about how to get past at the very very hardest
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>>123194452
コレホントに 気持ちいーのか?
「すり」「すり」
まあ オマエがいいなら いーけど…
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>>123197235
Jiro, go back to the safehouse pls.
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When are we going to get our Moonman mask?
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>>123197235
jiro pls
We got you a phrasebook mate
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>>123197420
>tfw Gage internet pack with Pepe, Ebin and Moonman masks
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>>123198019
YES
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>>123197401
>>123197567
着いて今回!!!
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daily reminder that if you consider ecm rushing as stealth you should just consider killing yourself instead
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>BB stealth solo
>get the right computers on first try two times in a row
>fuck up timelock both times
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Coming back from /kfg/ to report that it caught your plague.
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>>123203409
There goes plan B.
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>>123203409
what does the deluxe version of KF2 do?
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>>123159773
>Dallas in a black suit
>FUCKING WHITE CHAINS
>very Asian Wolf
>Wick with blue gloves and generally looking like a tool
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>>123203409
>Atleast three of these are already in PD2.
Atleast they got a good face mask and not one with the hole for cocksucking.
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>>123202093
Fucking this, thank god someone else feels that way too.
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>>123203789
Headphone cosmetic items and DJ Skully character.
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>>123194337
>pd2 has jew crates
>KF2 now has jews
>h1z1 had jew crates months ago

>they all have consoles releases planned/already out/going through developmental hell

wow
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>>123204094
did they add any of the dlc weapons in the game or are they going to fill the game with them once it comes out?
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>>123204875
Still 4 weapons per perk atm. Paid Character Skins lumped with crate loot cosmetics/weapons skins soon.

Here's the kicker, the cosmetics and skins that are going to be sold were community made items from contests

http://killingfloor2.com/Zedconomy/details.html.
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>>123202367
The computers *ARE* the timelock?

Are you saying you walked into the lasers or something?
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>>123205297
well the community weapons from kf1 werent the same?
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>>123205689
As far as I remember, community weapons were actual brand new weapons.

See: http://store.steampowered.com/app/210934/

If you wanted weapons reskins, you just bought them like DLC, and not through some shitty CS:GO loot crate system.
>>
trying again for meltdown dw

join the chat
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Do we know what steadyness is now?
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the town is payday the movie
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>>123206548
Nothing usefull unless you're running micro uzi or go full giggle at any other time except infront of a dozer
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>>123206897
I was thinking of Titanic.
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whats your opinion of swan song?
>>123207025
what do you mean by giggle
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>>123207435
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>>123203409
Isn't the helmet at the left the one that "Vlad" used in some kind of war?
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>>123203409
are they going to give you one helmet with the visor on and the other with the visor off?
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>>123208000
did you know the year the changed the RR logo from red to black was the same year sir henry royce died?
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>>123208790
no, interesting trivia phantom
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>>123208428
It's a real helmet, sperg
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>>123203971
>tfw shitters think a flashy box is skill
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>>123210092
forgot this..
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>>123203536
Plan C is still available
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>>123210302
why would a rapier have ammo?
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>>123210495
Maybe it's a gun rapier.
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>>123210495
why can't it?
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>tfw no gun that shoots swords
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>>123206446
newfag here where's the chat?
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>>123210832
Well then buckaroo do I have the game for you.
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>>123210832
>>tfw no gun that shoots swords
>not a frank that shoots franks
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>>123210495

The rapier has a "special attack" (the only one in the game so far) where you fire a pistol.
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>>123210946
He's talking about the Steam group chat, don't bother.

Steam group has always been, and always will be, pure cancer.
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>>123213741
Confirmed shitter that hates fun
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>>123213741
Some of those guys may be shitters, but they try to help and learn faster than most pubs
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>TFW you're playing Hoxton's Day Out and the host disconnects on the last objective before escaping
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>>123215340
>Hoxton's Day Out
Is that the Pixar adaption?
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>>123210495
Neger, bitte.
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>>123215590

Its the short at the beginning of the next Toy Story
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>>123213741
fuck off retard the chat isn't cancer. people have finished a lot of those dumbass achievements because of that chat and made friends
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>>123215928
>next Toy Story
pls no
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>>123215978
>And made friends
The fuck did you said fucking wanker
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>>123214226
>>123214978
>>123215978
Nobody's actually used the steam group or group chat for years. They only started showing up after the Crimefest drama started a couple months ago, so people trying to use the chat are either the original cancer from the group that came back or new kids who can't be assed to post profile links when asking for help.
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>>123218171
theres 5 people in it right now
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I'm glad OVK at least fixed bipods, LMGs are really fucking good now
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>>123218720
they have a lot of glitches
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>>123218720
If by fixed you mean "you can still use it to leave the dimension inhabited by men"
Sure, they fixed them.
>>
>payday 2 gets microtransactions
>now kf2 gets microtransactions

what the fuck is happening to the gaming industry :(
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>>123218720
>LMGs are good because of the item that doesn't deploy in tons of locations, nails you to the floor where you were standing, and limits your FOV.
The bipods are about as useful as the one bayonet they've added on a fucking sniper rifle.
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>>123222061
>Confirmed for never using LMGs with bipods before

It doesn't even take half a second to set it up, and you deploy it anywhere on the flat floor.

Considering you're rewarded with no fucking recoil while firing, it's pretty damn good.
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>>123222060
This is what happens when you give a bunch of money for an unfinished product.

>"thanks for the support, support us more by buying this stuff!"
>"well, this is nice and all, but is our patronage being put-forth towards development/completion of the game?"
>"buy some more and you'll find out!"
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Have we started the fire?
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>Light a fire
>and then film yourselves doin' it
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PiratePerfection won't let me create an account on their website and I wanna play with cheats now that I've pretty much done everything.

Does anyone have the download link?
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>>123225590
Shit is outdated after they broke the mods
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>>123225721
But BLT still works.
>>
I don't use mods
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>The 1% Framing Frame D2 ambush finally happened to me
>>
Jeff Sitar heister/safe-cracker perk WHEN?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw_4HQMS-pk
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>>123227290
stop playing this game you idort
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>>123227959
Once I reach V-100, I'll stop playing.

I'll keep it installed in case anyone wants me to help with any achieve or something though.
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can't imagine being less than v-100
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Ashley if you are still here, having turrets slowly replenish ammo is retarded, make it so we can re-fill them with our own ammo without skills and change that for something else, i don't know a third turret? be able to move turrets once placed?
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>>123225590
Mediafire download link: heb7o170m50n80q

Should be a pp.rar file, it's the Donor's version that got released at the start of the month once they got BLT working again, no clue if it still works haven't played for weeks.
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>>123228218
It's a lot more challenging

The lack of weapon/weapon mods, gimped skill trees, lack of perk decks, they all made it a pain.
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>>123228579
>new infamy level
>have the good guns from level 0 with all the fancy shit
>have over 30 skill points but no money
>won't sell anything out of pride

fuck me i hate getting kicked for no reason.
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>>123228385
repairing/moving turrets
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>>123229116
Fuck repairing, if you shoot at a tv you can't just fix it quickly, but changing the ammo barrel of the turret sounds like something even a simple retard could do.
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>>123229357
Yes, I'm also sure that words can also bring people back from the bring of being arrested when there's no cops around.
>>
make it so resupplying a turret doesn't cost 100% of your ammo
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Will I get the PAYDAYCON and HM2 shit automatically or do I still need to send them an email?
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>>123228385
aka
>>123110432
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>>123229805
pretty sure you have to send an email
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paydaycon mask is offensive I can't believe they hate their aussie fanbase that much
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>>123230149
aw dang
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guys wtf are we gonna do
soon every game is gonna have crates and cosmetics
>>
threadly/daily/whateverly reminder for the day's peak:

>12k
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>>123231710
Not buy crates and cosmetics?
>>
COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING COLLAPSING
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>>123232048
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
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>>123232048
https://vimeo.com/10237608
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as soon as kf2 or vermintide geos on sale for $15, I'm hopping off this train. It's been a wild ride. Thanks for the memories.
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>>123232831

/kfg/ here.
Forget what you know.
We have been swarmed by the same greedy parasite that swarmed you.
It's possible that we might come back from this, but it's not guaranteed.
Vermin is possibly your better bet now.
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>>123232952
killing floor always had dlc. I admit that it's shitty that you're still in EA to have MC, but at least your devs didn't outright lie to you and make false promises.

also custom maps, which is what I know kept the original killing floor alive.
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>>123228429
Thanks a lot for that.

I put myself at V-100, got all the weapons, and removed pp. Now, I can put this game down. I'll still help you guys if you ever need somebody for cheevos, but I think I'm putting this game down.
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>>123234115
>I totally did everything in the game guys, I just don't want to grind.
>Awesome, I made myself V-100 so I am done with the game now
Fuck off and good riddance.
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>>123228429
>heb7o170m50n80q
it says 404 in mediafire how do i download it pls?
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>>123234447
but anon i reset and i regretted it too late to do anything about it
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>>123234727
sure
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>>123203921
lol'd
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>>123211243
kek
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>Historical Pack
>Churchill, Patton and De Gaulle masks
>Russian is some generic trope combo Not-Stalin
Way to pussy out, OK.
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>>123241045
why not hitler then we got their gun and submachinegun
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It all returns to nothing
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>>123241497
All those masks are from the allied side.
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>>123229805
Sending an email with a copy of your passport or something like that. Overkill will need a proof you're Ausfailians in order to give you the codes.
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>>123202093
Daily reminder that if don't consider ecm rushing on Shadow Raid DW a viable way to get money, you should just consider killing yourself instead.
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>>123243046
>money
when this used to matter

good times
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>>123243046
Viable way, sure.

DW Mallcrasher is faster though, less chances of failure.
>>
New Weekly Job: Tabula Rasa.

Would doing it with Grinder be faster/easier than doing it with Rogue?
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>>123244135
should've kept PD:TH xp system, updating only the upgrades and weapon mods. Maybe with different types of trees for skill monkeys and shooting stuff.
>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uctJw_KYmTQ

I remember an Anon said he'd actually get to interview Almir and he'd ask questions that would include the Starbreeze's financial reports for the Q1 2015 and 2014. Has that happened?
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>>123241597
>the buzzaw is an american gun
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>>123247013
>the buzzsaw is a mask
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>tfw accidentally stealthing an heist,
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>>123248532
You don't accidentally stealth a heist, maybe Big Oil but fuck that
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>no motorcycle heist
I want to die
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>>123248794
>almost 2016,
>no motorcycle or plane escape,

Get a grip Overkill
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>>123248625
well it is a fake pleasure for a fake situatuion
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>>123248625
>he doesn't use the flamethrower with Control Freak on Nightclub DW, removing the guards before they call the cops and keep the civilians in control with the flames.
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>>123251678
>flamethrower
>in a heist with balconies and locked doors
going full John Wick is the best thing about Nightclub.
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>>123226504
>do FF with a new player in our group
>do day 1 easily, show him the game off a bit
>bring total joke shit for d2 since we know there's no combat
>mfw ambush
>mfw ambush after ambush until we finish
we redid that thing like 3x in a row, are you sure ambush rate is 1%?
I mean that's the first time it happened to me as well
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>>123252594
Alarm triggers: Ambush possible. 1% chance if day 1 was stealthed or the player escaped less than 50 seconds after the alarm, else 76% chance.
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>>123226645
there's that lockpick skill that lets you crack safse
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>>123243046
>not ecm rushing train heist for a delicious payoff
it's like you don't even experiment
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>>123248625
totally can
>go in SR
>forget my loud gear on
>whatever let's go and fail
>mfw it won't happen
>mfw walking back to truck with an artifact after 50 minutes have elapsed
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I have trouble solo stealthing shadow raid, pls help me stop being a shitter.

I usually get caught outside, by the containers.
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>>123253383
Inside containers is safe as long as you keep one side closed.
Abuse the FUCK out of 6th sense.
Infiltrate via northern building, jump to 2-stack container, then to the floor. Try not to miss, or you'll die from fall damage.
Slide along the northern wall, don't go too far from it without proper recon.
I like to take the Over Northern Wall asset for the containers.
If I could find a good map online I'd draw on it to show you my route and zones where I tend to get caught outside.

Otherwise get good.
>>
meanwhile the player count hits its all-time low
deadaed
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>>123253126
>Train Heist,
>ecm rushing,

Please enlight me of your strategy,
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>>123253217
>shadow raid
>loud at any time
???
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>>123228385

It was just a suggestion, nothing more. What would be the issue with a sentry regenerating ammo over time be?
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>>123254515
He's saying loud gear, not going in loud.
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>>123256272
Why would he bring loud gear to SR?
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>>123256417
That was his rendition of "accidentally stealthing a heist".
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>>123256459
Are you him?? I don't understand how it could mean that
I'll take your word for it though
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>>123256459
>>123256591
Actually, I thought about it and it makes sense now . Thank you .
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>>123253383
Buy the thermite and take the sewers. You should quickly know how to take the best from this new access.
>>
How do we fix dw difficulty?
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>>123253383
through the rooftops and down to the second floor's balcony. Open the door closest to the ladder (although there might be no ladder), get the crowbar from near the door, get the server if there is one. Drop your loot on the opposite side, near the bushes amidst fences - guards can't detect it there. Kill the cameraman while you're in the area as he is guaranteed to have a keycard and there's another crowbar spawning point near him, if you couldn't get it from the corridor.
After getting everything from the second floor, get back to the roof and use a staircase to the first floor in the depot. Clean out crates and drop the stuff into the sewers. After cleaning out the building you can go outside and get some more but at this point you should have enough bags to allow you to escape and containers usually only have like four bundles (it's almost money) so unless you're short, don't bother.
Buy either waterfront garbage asset or bag zip-line to the river tug: first is faster but you might need to waste a pager, second is painfully slow but you don't have to worry about guards. Thermite can be useful for getting around but it isn't crucial as you can get bags from the other side of the bars as long as they're close enough. Get it if you don't want to run around and risk getting caught. You might want to buy body bags if you're going for the samurai armor - camp for civs near the vault and shoot them, you can risk killing a Murky if you have pagers to spare. Before going for the armor, make sure you already dropped off all the loot.
Watch out for flashlights, avoid staircases if possible, move bags one at a time, hide your bodies. If you're in a really tight spot, you can try and run right in front of the guard - if you find cover fast enough, you will remain undetected. If you are absolutely sure you're fucked, don't waste your time and shoot guards before they fully detect you. Murkys are tough but stealth kills one-shot even them.
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>>123258224
Reminiscent about the days past and weep quietly.
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>>123258224
Increase the health of the common units and make the greendozers sprinting. Also remove the stunlocking effect of the flamethrower on the cloakers.
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>>123246014
Yes
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>lacklustre
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>>123259428
You got a bloody problem with that?
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>>123259473
Sorry thought he meant lackluster at first but realized after it was after a valid word.
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>>123259643
you must feel silly
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>>123259428
Thank god.
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Would you a 76 acc/100 Stab Para ?
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>>123262694
Nobody gives a shit about stability because it doesn't matter. What's with the +8 skill bonus? Did you mod it with Single-Shit?
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>>123262754
>stability doesn't matter
>he still believes this
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>>123262754
>What's with the +8 skill bonus

Leadership aced and no, it can still go full-auto.
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>>123262859
Great, so it's Select-Shit.
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Didn't we any info in the game files about the next christmas heist or or something like that ?
>>
Do silencers just FUCK the spread on shotguns? I'm trying to make them ok again with silent killer and it feels like the spread is retardedly tight now.
>>
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mDa:eropkLHIEFCDa:tsOmIJeFgbCDa:ghEgCda:feDa:idea:pM8s8:::

I've modified my Techforcer build since I had a ton of spare points now that I hit a few infamies I'd have Infamy'd sooner but fuck me I hate the grind in this game. Anyway, tips and suggestions and whatnot.
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>>123264192
Yes the Christmas heist is called Hoxton Safes.
>>123264843
You want spread on shotguns.
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>>123266267
Yes I'm saying it DOESN'T spread with silencers on. Except the loco.
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>>123265934
Well I wouldnt change much from what you made
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/meDa:eropkLHIEFCDa:tsOmIJeFGCda:ghEgCda:feDa:idea:pM8s8:::
Just a couple of things in the tech set
>removed snap to zoom faster and steel sight in bleedout
Lasers are extremely good because while sights apparently improve the accuracy stat, you can safely rely on lasers most of the times.

So I used them to get the 30% chance for the drill to fix itself because, 30% is still damn good and it will happen, and then I put the remaining 1 point to control freak because while you might not use take hostages at least indirectly you will be helping those that want to take them.
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>>123254302
4x crew, two with saws, all with ecm, clean out the bridge from guards and civvies so only 2 are left, open vaults as normal, once it comes to moving bags, as soon as first one gets spotted ecm your way through. Shaves like 10 minutes off.
It's good for crews who don't have equipment/skills for dw and takes care of the most annoying and boring part
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>>123256591
That's the guy.
Know how you do buncha shit in a row and sometimes forget to change your shit and automatically tap enter as soon as heist is loaded?
That.

>>123253383
I'll share my personal strats that make stealthing SR on DW a non issue.
Sounds like you have trouble with stealth mechanics so for intro:
Basically you need to have good concealement, the higher the concealement the further away and faster you get spotted. Aim for 3.
Suppressors turn your weapons completely silent unless you hit windows or kill someone and you lack the 95% less noise on death skills.(shinobi, hidden blade)
Crouching makes you harder to spot.
Body bags and loot bags can be spotted well easy from far as fuck away, more so for bodybags.
Tag guards so you know where they are, stealth is about patience and knowing where anyone is going. Don't be afraid to take fucking ages or to stop w/e you're doing and going back.
Strats in next post tho
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>>123253383
DW SR strats I use:
Assets/preplanning(optional)
>zip line from roof
OR
>thermite so you can either use it with docks zipline or just open an safe access between bottom floor and street

Note: if you throw loot in ANY water it'll respawn at docks sewer entrace.
Strat
>spawn
either
>A)open manhole on street and thermite first bars, come back, grab thermite and B)
or
>B)Rush the fuck to roof on the right, land on cargo containers and start opening and emptying the containers.
>near the wall it's safest, empty all out and toss bags over the fence near car until you get to the container that's on another on in the corner of the yard. then hide bags in the pump/gen room, where no guard goes
>Time should be now around t+2:30, spend time by moving any lootbags that are not over the wall behind the roof access hut via the yard ladder, figuring out where the dock guard is or taking out the back alley guard.
>Lockpick any doors you need
>after 4 and half minutes have passed from you entering the yard stay on the roof between helipad H and railing facing entrance(the box is quite big) until you see helicopter. This will prevent from extra guards spawning
>move in from roof, take out cameraman, cable tie any civvies EXCEPT for the orange jumpsuit/yellow helmet guy
>grab keycard, keep it
>slowly empty out the building floors/basement and warehouse, keep note of all guards. and civvies. Cable tie them and hide them in camera room whenever possible.
>once you have 4 bags, drop them into car/zipline them
>sometime in 15-25 minutes, all the murky guards will have become static. Unless you open any doors, they'll stay that way.
>simply avoid guards and kill only those you need. You should have 2 body bags and 3 pagers left, that being MORE than enough.
>to open vault, cabletie the orange/yellow civvie near vault and he'll drop the second card.

Just practise senpai.
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>>123262694
No.
Needs atleast 86 acc and whatever stab, since if you can't countersnipe with 1 shot, its worthless.
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>>123253383
Kill the side alley guard and go in through the roof. Once the coast is clear (=Sixth Sense shows nothing) break the window facing the waterfront dropoff point. It's significantly faster to empty the warehouse out of the window than it is to haul the bags to the nearest zipline or make use of the sewers, the window is also available the same way with practically no variance, you don't have to rely on RNG enabling and blocking different paths.
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>>123273243
Couple of notes:
>outside guards don't go inside and vice versa, but civvies go anywhere
>opening doors opens up new pathways, except for the camera room and downstairs server room (civvies still go there)
>guards inside become static after 20 or so minutes, a great place to learn about stealth mechanics
>cages are not worth bothering with until the end. Drills will lure guards, one at a time.
>you can hide bodies and cable tied civvies in the warehouse
>guards notice open vault, civvies won't.
>there's more pathways than you think since you can jump on trucks/land on shit sticking out from the wall/throw bags in water etc
>only difference between DW and OVK is wayy way way wayyy better rewards, one guy patrolling back alley and titan cameras. DW is just as hard as ovk, considering you'll be taking out camera guy ASAP
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>>123273535
Thanks, will try it out. I always tought that window made fuckload of noise
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>>123273967
The radius is surprisingly small, if there is nobody on the roof it's safe to break it.
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daily reminder that ecm rushing is for shitters who don't know how to stealth
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>>123274218
Or for people that need a quick buck
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>Roll a Dodge Enfoncer build
>Got kicked because the guy thinked I was cheating
Nice
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Is he/she/it still here?
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>>123277258
Hopefully not.
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With the rebalance update, did they fixed the shitty ammo pick up of the Queen's wrath or it was left untouched ? Considering how the hidden spread stats were left, i fear the answer is a no.
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>>123274218
Daily reminder that the people playing Shadow Raid are the most casuals and vanilla players of the community.
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>>123274080
Just tried it, thanks, this will shave some minutes off!
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>>123282412
>playing and having fun on the most well designed stealth map in the game is for casuals and vanillas
>people having fun in any other way than me are casuals and vanillas.

I need some nice downtime from having an actual job, gf, playing GTOS and arma with acre and speedrunning shit.

Fuck you, you're the casual.
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>tfw digital camo looks bloated on guns and I will never be able to recreate M308 from PD:TH
>>123280447
I remember using it during Halloween, it was decent. One of the best OVK-tier ARs, actually.
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>>123284747
>One of the best OVK-tier ARs, actually.

I thought it was the Car-4 although it's just because of a decent accuracy bonus (not counting the skins).

Btw is it safe to agree the Ak Rifle is just meh and forgettable ?
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>>123284787
>dat digital camo,

Killing Floor M4 Camo/10
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>>123286658
it's ONE of the best but there are a couple of other ones. CAR-4 is definitely the winner (not counting non-standard stuff like DMRs or M308).
AKs aren't particularly bad but not too good either, especially without AK/CAR pack.
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what the fuck is the appeal of weapon skins?do people even paint their gun in real life?
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>>123289737
yes, they do
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>>123289910
that looks terrible
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>>123289737
Engravings, paint, etc. Gun porn is a thing anon.
>>123289910
They truly ruin everything.
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>>123290005
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>>123290005
bright monotone colors are almost always terrible.
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>>123289737
All the fucking time.
Camo, polymer parts come in different colours, all sorta different woods are used for furniture and such.
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http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/tQNOKLHIEFCa:goKIJFBCda:pH8::w3::a6 r8??????????????//???????
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>>123289737
ingame ? Mostly for E-penis and rarely bragging rights.
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>>123294530
0/10, made me reply.
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>>123294530
keep that nine lives aced best skill in the game
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>>123294530
Don't think it's viable for Overkill and that's saying a lot.

trash/10
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hi i've been playing for

Hi, i've been playing for 20 yours now and I think I'm really good, I can finish all heists on hard and veryhard. and I can stealth a lot on overkill.

I however tried DW and got my ass handed to me. Reddit reccomended hoxhud but I while it makes me play better I still fail at DW. We usually get downed when the cops arrive if I don't get kicked when joining a lobby(wtf is with that lmao!

Here's my skill deck and weapons but they are fine, a xxv-100 said it's a great deck and reccomended me it. He's been carrying me so I have lots of money but he usually wins games by being a tech guy and he strategically lays his 5 turrets out in strategic locations.

See what I'm doing wrong with this build, should I change the way I play since right now I rush cops down to make most of my perk
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mfCa:eba:gSnoKHIFgBDa:fQPMHJFgBCa:ia:pY8::w10-41-43-28-3-25-16-18-56-14:s60-6-19-9:
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>>123296718
Exquisite.
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>>123274862
except nobody ecm rushes for money anymore everyone does it because they think that's how you stealth
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>>123297042
Glad my friends advice was solid. How to make best use of it? Should I rush groups and place ECM's in them? Should I stay back and snipe?
I have suppressor on since suppressors give 30% more hidden damage
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>>123298473
get the body bag case from fugitive and use it on the corpse of the dead cops during assaults it really helps in lowering there morale so the assaults are shorter
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>>123298760
You can use the bodybags only on stealth
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>>123298860
Works fine in my game
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>>123298760
tahnks for the tip but it's obviously a joke. I've been zip tying 2 civillians but it does little. My friend said you get unlimited cable ties with infamy and he said that helps to shorten the assaults
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>>123271997
Eeeh, is train really that much of a money juicer? Wouldn't you get more just doing hoxout on ovk or somesuch? I assume train is all over in 8 mins tho, that'd be a plus?
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>>123300737
See >>123298860
The max cable ties you can get are 6
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>>123300737
if you want more zipties ace the first skill of mastermind
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>>123253217
You were just a bag mule in the sewers, weren't you?
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>>123301019
You can finish train in about 15-20 minutes if you optimize and figure it out.
It takes me 35 or so mins to solo it for gain of over 3 mil of pure dosh.
It's also fun and different, which is the main reason I do it
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>>123301272
what part of solo you don't understand?
It's all about waiting for guards to get stuck and then making a move
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>>123302293
Uuh, doesn't really seem worth the investment. :<
If you want something different, sure, but I got my train dw badge from straight up soloing that shit and I'm quite satisfied with those harrowing 45 minutes...

Stelf dw BB as my "fuck yeah!" moment.
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>>123302450
you never mentioned solo, dearie :3
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>>123302757
it's not like my concealement was over 50 anyway.
Grinder builds are fab
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>>123302541
>:<
Fuck off
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>>123302541
Big bank is a lot more interesting than train heist since it has more varied scenery.

I found what cuts down time in solo train is bringing a saw, clearing out lumber yard and jumping up the cliffs

A fun stealth is firestarter. Takes shit hell load of patience and body bags and a judge but it's oh so satisfying
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>>123303371
Day 1? Holy shit you're a more patient/autismal man than me, Anon.
But grats on succeeding that fabled feat!
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>Turret spawns
>Game crashes
Why?
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>>123303940
it's all about just taking one alley at a time and shooting them into space with judge.
Then better have 10/10 aim and fast trigger with a suppressed gun to clear out outside and inside
Takes ages tho and I failed day 2 since I suck at it so I quit
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>>123303940
It's not that hard, it just takes a long time
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>>123303940
are huds really that bad? i never used one thats why i am asking
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>>123296718
This is one of the shittiest builds ever.

A Ghostfug build with Aced Nine Lives, basic lockpicking, max FAKs, Aced Trigger Happy, no dodge, and using the Yakuza deck. What a terrible attempt at mixing stealth builds with loud. And you're sub V-100 to boot. No fucking wonder you can't do shit in loud DWs, you have zero clue about the game mechanics and think you know what you're doing.

And you're skipping straight from VH to DW at 20 hours of play, what makes you think you're actually good enough? You can't even make a proper build. Shitters like you need hundreds of hours before even beginning to understand how to play and at least V-100 so you can have skill point tier reductions to begin with.


Here's my advice:
- Stick to OVK difficulty at most
- Fuck the Yakuza deck and get a different deck that's actually good for combat (Rogue, Muscle, Grinder)
- Learn the game mechanics

When you can solo PrOVK difficulty loud heists without bots after several hundred hours of play, you may go back to trying out loud DWs. DW is a severe jump in diffculty that newbies like you will never master. You get kicked from DW lobbies because you represent the kind of cluelessness all newbies demonstrate.

>He's been carrying me so I have lots of money but he usually wins games by being a tech guy and he strategically lays his 5 turrets out in strategic locations.
You can only have 2 turrets out at most and they are situationally slightly helpful at best. He's a fucking cheater who's also a fucking shitter.
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>>123307442
it tells you when assault starts end, tells you exact time of everthing, including ECM's, drills etc.

It's cheaty but nothing special. A good player does not require it.
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>>123307609
What the fuck is wrong with you? Everyone ITT been saying my build is fine, which means you're the only one who sucks dick at this game and you're mad I'm beating your scrub ass at a simple game with merely 20 hours of playtime.

Fuck you, I bet you're 12 and autistic. I'll beat your ass any day at DNF DM. Bet you can't even aim and you only need your army of turrets to keep you alive.

My friend is not a cheater, it's not your fault you can't build your decks right to get the most meta turrets. I asked him and it comes with infamy, so you're not even v-100 yourself fag.
Apply yourself
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>>123271997
>Saws
>In Train DW
What's the fucking of point of waiting to ECM last minute if you grinding on that door is going to alert the whole fucking map anyway?

Also ECMs stop the Train vault timelocks so you're just basically bullshitting at this point.
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>>123307609
Why are you taking the bait, the dude's taking a piss out of you
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>>123307909
Silent motor saw alert at 7m. If there's nobody on other side or directly above you you're safe.
drop ECM's once everyone is ready to move bags. By the time final vault opens you should have lots of bags moved allready
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>>123307812
2/10, made me reply.

Now fuck off back to Reddit with your epic screenshot.

>>123303371
>>123303940
>>123305551
>>123306960
What has this general come to when people are unironically suggesting FS Day 1 stealth for funsies.
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>>123308025
I bet it's the same max autism faggot that listed out the things he never does in pubs
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>>123308143
FS day 1 for stealth is fun since it's labled impossible to stealth and it takes someone skilled to do it.
It's a challenge. Like soloing samurai armor
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>>123307632
are huds the thing that send a chat message everytime a player is downed or use a medicbag?
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>>123308143
once you've gotten all the achieves, reached xxv, and filled your safehouse vault there isn't much else you can do.
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>>123308757
that would be pocohud
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>>123308757
For the love of god don't be that faggot that has poco spam a bunch of messages. Set it to display it to you only.
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>>123309352
Challenges you set yourself
Retarded ways to stealth shit, eg train heist no assets, stealth FS day 1, do heists without killing anyone, stealth nightclub without interacting with the bouncer, do heists with worst builds possible, etc etc
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>>123309887
that's what i'm saying, there isn't much you can do other than stuff like that
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>>123276724
More accurately
>be dodge forcer
>get kicked for not having a saw or bringing anything of value
Its more fun to BTFO of other dodge fags with fugtech
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>>123310887
The O in BTFO stands for "Off" so you just need to say "BTFO other dodge fags" instead of "BTFO of other dodge fags".

Also fugtech is just a shit combination in general, can't ascribe their worthlessness to all dodgefags.
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>>123313327
Blown the Fuck Out (BTFO) | Know Your Meme

“Blown the Fuck Out”, often abbreviated asBTFO, is an expression used to describe a “blowout,” or a landslide victory in a competitive event.
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Stim ded?
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>>123313327
>>123313898
*addednote*
Git gud with your memes
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>>123313997
How do people still not know that steam maintenance is Tuesday evening.
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Is it worth switching to a dodge low blow build for the piglet, or is it better for survivability/ammo if I just go techforcer and magdump grenades?
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>>123314463
In non-DW, it doesn't matter if you use memethrowers.
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>>123314589
Eh, not so impressed with the flamethrower, but the piglet is god-tier at unfucking situations. Just wondering in DW whether crits are worth it, since apparently explosives synergize with low blow?
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Have
Another

A E S T H E T I C
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>>123315147
It's like I'm really in the 80s.
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>>123315147
I tried playing Hotline Miami with that filter the other day. It was a good decision.
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>>123314463
Piglet SBLB sounds fun, but you'll need to ace the two and you'll only have 4 concealment points to play with.
If you want survivability and ammo though, might as well go techforcer. Not as fun though when you move slower than molasses and you won't be technically headshotting everyone.
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>>123315303
>>123315348

APPOINTMENT WITH THE EYE DOCTOR.
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>>123315604
Scratch that, according to the skill tree, Low Blow doesn't work for grenade launchers.
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>>123307609
>taking the bait.
dude...
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>>123314798
Do grenades even get crit damage? Pretty sure HE rounds are the only explosives that do, and there was a nerf to cap the damage because of HE Judges instagibbing dozers.
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>>123315678
>Angled Sight
>fiddy cal
Triggered.
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remove Project Cancer mod
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeZnOZfo1WY
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>>123325230
John Wick was a good movie. Shame 2 probably wont be. Sequels have a tendency to suck dick these days.
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>>123289910
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guys please help me I have tried so many times but I can't beat Alesso on very hard please I have failed like 20 times now.

steamcommunity.com/id/akillerbee
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are AP slugs any good
I've been thinking about putting them in my joceline
is it worth
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>>123330167
You lose a bunch of ammo and they don't get a lot of pickups.
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>>123330636
that's true but it says on the description they peirce enemies
would that make it better at short range
and also is it any better for killing sheilds
i've really never used anything but 00 buck buckshot
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>>123330807
Most of the time the custom ammos aren't worth it except an HE weapon for shields, stunning dozers, and winters. I put em in the joce before and believe me it was ass.
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Is the Gage ninja pack any good?
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>>123330885
it's alright
shurikens are cool
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>>123330885
shurikens are great if you're not conservative with ammo

the lebensausage is still a great sniper rifle, even if it was nerfed.

the vector is the same thing as jacket's piece, but it works well as a room clearer

It's a good pack, but nothing in it is really crucial
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>>123330879
000 Buckshot is basically required for the semi and auto shotties right now.
Post-buff maybe not, but that has yet to happen.
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>>123331798
Those aren't even worth using even with 000 sadly.I just want m1014 to be good
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>>123331930
Overkill is required for all shotguns. M1014 is nice and fine and dandy and even the fucking Izhmash with 000.
At least on OVK.
You'll still have trouble with that first kill.
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>>123332013
yeah thats the problem, on ovk. I want to use them on DW. m1014 is my favorite shotgun but the damage is just way too low.
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>>123332135
Then we're right fucked.
When the buff comes around, try it with 000 and tell me if it does any good. Not like I'll bring anything aside from my AMR DMR to DW anyway, but information is always nice.
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>>123332426
based off the numbers I really doubt it will be considering pre balance m1014 was pretty shit on DW. All I can hope for is a stupidly op thing to come around that gives me my 5 minutes of fun.
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>>123330885
Vector is a fun SMG
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>Page 10

WE NEED YOU BUDDY
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peak reminder:
>12k

i believe yesterday was the same
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>>123320947
>not using Theia/Angled
plen
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>>123330167
Overkill just can't into custom shells and especially the AP slugs, just stay away from it.
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Why is incendiary ammo so shit?
Couldn't Overkill atleast make it do headshots?
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>>123338798
>not using it on the street sweeper and abuse its crits feature.

I bet you're using HE shells with the Loco.
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>>123341908
sleep tight hammers
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>>123338798
>Why is incendiary ammo so shit?
But it's not.

It's basically an HE sidegrade, where it trades the 100% chance of triggering stun lock down to 50% in exchange for a slightly longer duration, DoT, more ammo capacity, and the ability to stop cloakers as well.
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>>123344563
Yeah.
Or you could just kill shit in one headshot with normal ammo.
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>>123344563
Does damage actually matters on this kind of shells or not, considering you'll be relying most of the time on the burning animation to do the work ?
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>>123344946
Right? Who the fuck needs HE anyway.

>>123345010
Not really, people keep saying all sorts of shit about how much damage it actually does, but I'm pretty sure it's rarely significant.
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>>123345010
Basically you're only going to do damage over time to tans since lolbulletproof armor, or you could do miserable damage to their head since you can't do headshot damage with incendiary rounds.
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>>123344563
>X-75
tfw too lazy to grind infamy

but I want my bane mask

rip
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>>123345482
you can do it anon
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>>123345482
It only gets easier, buddy

Just keep playing those Rats
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>>123345881
I'm worried about playing OVK Rats with pubs. Last time I did it the host crashed right when we cooked our 7th bag.
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>>123346009
Then maybe you should host, just do a jew store at level 0 and you're set

At this point in your infamy if you can get friends to host an OVK Rats at level 0 you can get 40-50 odd levels
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>>123248625
> Playing nightclub with some pubs
> go in, ! everywhere
> kill mobsters
> civs too scared to call cops
> no cams
> tfw accidentally stealthed
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>people going past Infamy 5 unironically
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>>123346929
needed something to work towards
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>>123344563
>OVK
Nobody cares.
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>>123348090
It's just a demo, edgelord.
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Wasn't there shit going on about "heeey saws always need 2 taps to open despoit boxes?"
Cause it kinda looks like deposit boxes still have an HP bar to me.
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>>123349140
>Wasn't there shit going on about "heeey saws always need 2 taps to open despoit boxes?"
Uh, no?

People were saying it isn't possible to one tap deposit boxes anymore with those two damage increasing mods anymore unless you have beserker, which, your webm obviously shows the player having.
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>>123349525
Oh, okay.
I didn't get the context, thanks.
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>>123310887
>Bringing a saw for heists like Hotline Miami or The Almond
Besides,I have the fully aced Ammo bags + Grinder,I just put ammo bags near the objectives and run around the map.
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>>123284787
wow camo skins like these when ovk...which is likely never...well goonmod still works...
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>>123351408
desert pattern also is possible, haven't tried woodland yet.
>>
I think there's no real argument that a skill revamp is really needed by now. But what tree do you think needs a rework most of all?

I think Tech needs some serious rethinking. So much of it is point filler, with a grand total of 3, maybe 4 skills that are actually useful and necessary?
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what game should i play now that this game is completely destroyed?
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>>123352225
Club Penguin
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>>123352330
ok
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>>123351698
Tech, definitely.

Since his tree is mainly revolved around objectives and "interaction", they should focus on that.

Like, gain 5 dodge when interacting with something, and/or the ability to use your secondary, etc.
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>>123352225
Pre-DeathWish update Payday 2. Some torrents might still be up
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>>123352714
but that was rly easy and ill probably be super triggered at not having all my Premium Gun memes
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>>123349140
People were just pissed Overkill nerfed the saw for no reason, kicking the metafags in the balls for putting more annoying requirements to open them in one tap.

Yeah, you're right, deposit boxes and ATM definitely have somekind of HP bar where the damage of your saw actually matter.
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>>123255741
is retarded, and im tired of the fucking filler skills being utter shit.
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>that one low level hitman players equipped with an ecm and a LBV,

It's almost beauty at this point.
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>>123320947
What's wrong with the fiddys
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>>123355206
I'll get Ambidexterity the first chance I get, I swear.
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>friend and I only play on Overkill
>hits the point where I'm alright most of the time and just kind of chill while playing
>he randomly pushes it to DW tonight
>dozers rape me and my mother breaking through windows like hazmat boogiemen

How do I get good at Death Wish?
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>>123357063
Death wish is another animal.
You need whole new strats for it and builds and weapons. Enemies take more damage and deal more damage, your invulnerable ICTV that can tank anything will go down as fast as a suit does in ovk.

Make sure your weapons meet breakpoints, make sure you can easily gurantee survivability in ammo and health via shit like inspire, medkits or grinder and make sure you have some utility weapons for dealing with specials as fast as possible, eg grenade launchers, thatanos, He shotgun
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Killing Floor 2 added pay to win too.
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>>123358136
>tfw I just go with dodge enfoncer Grinder and a full concelement Mosconi
>I do a better job than my team
I love memebuilds
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>>123357063
>How do I get good at Death Wish?

Play it safe and adapt your weapon and skills to a more meta level. Keep in mind that stunning a black dozers before rushing on hum can make a huge difference.
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>>123359356
But there are no stat bonuses on the weapon skins.
Right?
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It took me two hours but I finally managed to solo Tabula Rasa.

>Day 1 took 8 minutes total because clear roads and got bollards on first try
>Spend the remaining two hours failing Day 2 repeatedly like a shitter

Things I learned while brute-forcing myself to the end:
- 12 bundles of dynamite isn't enough to get rid of Captain Winters. Stuck with that asshole forever.
- Can't throw molotovs over a railing or through a window, they hit some magical invisible wall lining the railing and just kill you instead (might be the same with the dynamite? But I saw those fall below)
- OVK put in goddamn courier mods into Day 2. And poorly too. They're all hovering 2m above the floor.
- Armory corridor on 2nd floor is the worst place to take cover because it has no cover from all three floors of cops except for inside the armory itself.
- Tasers, not Cloakers, are the number one kill priority. Fuck Tasers.
- Escaping with the server by going upstairs via the rear stairway and then coming down the other is a great way to juke the incoming end-of-heist mob.

>Time Played: 40:21

Now we need a new thread.
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tfw shitters think they need 37 points in every tree as if this game was hard
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>>123361204
No, but the game is still in development
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>>123361620
Cops shoot molotovs out of the air, you can too. They can't shoot dynamite.
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>>123361795
Nothing wrong with having trees that make your playstyle work for you.

I bet you autistically limit yourself to flamethrower and deagle because it's "meta"
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>>123362557
>cheating
no wine for you.
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>>123362557
>flamethrower and deagle is meta
Yeah okay.
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>>123362939
>flemmenwerfen and deagle not meta
>flemmenwerfen and deagle not meta
pick one
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>>123362557
>I bet you autistically limit yourself to flamethrower and deagle because it's "meta"
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>>123362557
are you retarded? i'm talking about cheating shitters who unlock all skills in all trees a la 37 points.

and for the record i use the mosconi more than anything fuckboi
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>>123365450
Nothing wrong with that
What next? Hoxhud is cheating because it gives you all the info on when anything is happening anywhere on the map and exacly how long it'll take?

As if the game wasn't easy enough.
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>>123365736
there's nothing wrong with having every skill in the game at once? uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
if you think having 37/37/37/37/37 isn't wrong then just kill yourself
that isn't comparable with a hud element in any way whatsoever. the fuck are you talkin about anon?
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>>123365736
Hoxhud isn't cheating, but it does make you retarded for using it.
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>>123366376
What
If you pull a line and say "knowing every timing and info about everything, even about things the designers DESIGNED the game around you not knowing " is not okay but "having every skill, even the skills the designers DESIGNED the game around you not having" is not okay.

They're both okay or they're not, fag.
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>>123366689
Your name makes a bit more sense.
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>>123366823
you're so far off base it isn't even funny. hoxhud doesn't do anything that you can't do yourself. what's it manage for you? count pagers and guards? whooptie doo. that's so insignificant it isn't even funny. unlocking every skill so that you become god-like is not in any way the same as knowing how many cops are on the map. with any amount of actual experience in game there's nothing hoxhud can tell you that you don't already know. having every skill in the game gives an insane amount of advantages. i'm done, you're fucking retarded.
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>>123367365
Hoxhud shows
>counts pagers and guards so you don't have to have teamwork or communication
>shows when ecm's are running out so you don't have to have teamwork or communication or coordination

all skills gives you
>jack of all trades so you don't have to have teamwork or commmunication

Hoxhud makes you godlike since you know when what and where everything is, 37 in all trees makes you capable of doing anything

Both are cheats.
If you played quake pro and had HUd that told you all the spawns you'd be banned as a cheater.
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>>123368185
you do know that you don't need hoxhud for any of those things right?

>i can count to 4
>the amount of guards on a map is literally meaningless
>ecm's already show you when they're running out

gb2candyland you're probably some 500 hour shitter who thinks he's good because you unlocked every skill
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>>123368585
You know you don't need 37 skill points in all trees to play the game, right?
>I can aim gun
>I can take cover
>I can move to next objective

gb2simcity pleb. You're propably some 200 hour shitter who can't even stealth SR solo even with hoxhud since you can't count to 4
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No new fred? Do I have to make a gay one again?
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>>123369049
>>123369049
>>123369049
Abandon ship
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>>123368876
i think you're either really confused or actually retarded.

i'm not defending having 37 points in all trees i'm saying people like you who do should be keked
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