Eve Online General - /eog/

details about the december 8 patch
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/operation-frostline-and-holidays-in-eve-online-an-update-from-ccp-seagull/

second for join tengoo

details about the upcoming ship damage visual effects
>ellipsoidal shield that changes color as it gets lower and flashes as it's boosted/hardened
>armor has animations on the surface of the model of the ship itself and shows damage on the hull as charred/burning craters
>as hull takes damage the ship's lights flicker more and more and eventually go dark
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6178431#post6178431

sauce of op image and examples of >>122907421:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR8oxrBLoJc

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>Amarr

>>122907572
Ehh, I don't like the flickering engine trails and lights much. This will hurt eyes as fuck.

>>122907572
they really need to improve those system backgrounds

>>122908472
theres's also some work being done on backgrounds for this patch iirc

>>122908472
I'd welcome a brightness slider. Fuck Amarr nebula.

>>122908617
there is also a gamma slider being implemented this patch :3

>>122908749
But I want it to affect only the nebulae. The rest is fine, just the backgrounds are a killer. If I were to live somewhere with a reasonable bg, I'd have to move to Derelik.

>>122909119
I think it's also brightest in highsec, darker in lowsec, darkest in nullsec

>>122908472
>>122908563
>CCP decided to go for a "parallax layers" effect, using multiple skybox images at various visual distances
How do you react?

>>122910254
eeeeeeeeeh might look cool, but nowhere near realistic given the distances involved
>inb4 >realism
yeah, well, just because things aren't realistic now isn't a complete reason to go hog wild

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>space

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>Eve

>Amarr

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>petes

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~shields breached~

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>Breacher

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sleepies pls go

>tfw gonna have a 10 ME freighter BPO tommorow morning

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>Goons having to use 100 man pet blobs to fight 20 man lowsec fleets
>They run away when the fc dies

Whew.

>>122928148
>20 man lowsec fleets

So this is the power of lowsec!

>>122928224
muh blobs

>>122928224

>no one compitent enough to take over and finish them off
>60bil lost to 8bil killed so far in muh placid raids

So this is the power of the Imperium.

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Remember go- I mean guys, killing the “Imperium” would be akin to killing the game.

>>122930627

He looks like someone who's jerked off on his own face before

>"content ring"

>since my divorce all i want to do is die

>clever girls

I've been gone from the game a while, what are Drifters?

Jsut saw a few of their BS at a gate in Obanon

>>122936791
They drop some sweet loot. You need a battleship with okay skills to take them out.

>>122937382
This, fit a hardcore active tank, they DPS hard, no buffer at all. Try to blast down the first "layer" of their shield ASAP, shit dies fast after that.

>>122937758
Well i got a perfect skill rattlsnake. Passive tanked.

Anyway, unless they got some REALLY sweet loot i'm better off blitzing.

>>122937841
I think grabbing two is like 500 mill or something? Totally worth it for how little time it takes.

>>122937924
God damn
Ok, omw back. I suppose they do omni damage?

THere were 2 BS and 2 circadian.

>>122938061
Yeah omni.

>>122938061
What system? Can I loot your wreck?

>>122938735
Man don't go steal a man's drifter loot!
>>122938061
Better drop a MTU so jerks don't try to loot the wreck.

>>122938871
>Man don't go steal a man's drifter loot!
I meant the rattlesnake wreck after it gets DD'd

>>122939069
>trying to scare him away to have the drifters all to himself.

>>122939231
I did my own research, fucker, nice try.

>islands

>find a C6 wh
>think I'll be a cheeky bastard and haul my stuff through it
>all of the exits are fucking verged
clever bastards

Why is EVE dying and what do you think about Albion Online?

>>122947426
show me some vids of it or whatever

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>>122947426
Call it gay pride or whatever, but until the day EVE shuts its servers down for good, I will never touch another MMO. I am not an MMO player by nature, and finding this game was part luck, part recommendation. I know more about it, and its universe, than I ever could see myself relearning about some other, new space game. Until the EVE gate flickers out, and the four empires go the way of the Jove, I'll keep on probing my way across this familiar mess of a cluster.

>>122948051
>until the day EVE shuts its servers down for good, I will never touch another MMO

then you're retarded

there have been plenty of better mmos than EVE, they're just dead now

>>122948292
>there have been plenty of better mmos than EVE
And there might be better mmos now, and almost definitely will be better mmos in the future

The point is, I don't give a shit. I like EVE. Call it retarded, but learning to play something better has no appeal compared to staying with what I've played for so long until the bitter end.

Is there seriously no trade too that doesnt have fixed cost prices? Seems extremely easy to do but no one does it apparently.

>>122935604
rip

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>>122947656
>If you have never heard of Albion Online: it is a Sandbox MMORPG in a medieval setting. We have drawn inspiration from games like EVE Online, Ultima Online, Dark Age of Camelot, League of Legends and smaller titles like Haven & Hearth.

It has zones like EVE's high-low and null-sec.

Some videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpDPw65HD_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4uG7Lxnjc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFot5yd5XGQ

>>122949951
>shilling Albion Online
Greyscale pls go

>>122949951
>No space exploration
Dropped.

>>122951287
lol I'm not shilling I didn't even buy the game. I just asked you opinions since this game has no general and this is the closest I can find.

What's this winter event thing?

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>>122906786
Are any of you capsulers going to play Albion Online.

CCP Greyscale is helping with it, so it can't be bad!

>>122951367
U explore Hellgates instead :^]

>>122954213
btw I'm going to steal /eog/ memes for /aog/ when the game comes out.

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>>122954836
good luck faggot

>>122954767
Might as well warp over to goon territory.

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>>122955187
Thanks.

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>Amarr

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>Caldari

Is weekend not primetime for EVE? Or is 25k good numbers for the game.

>>122961485
Eve doesn't have primetime. Any number is a good number.

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>Gallente

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>Memematar

>>122961485
most of that 25k is just alts. only 25 people actually play EVE, and half of them are busy shitposting in this thread.

>>122949951
>dungeon fatigue timers
Wow thanks greyscale you managed to kill a game again

>>122968787
doesnt wow have the same?

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>>122968787
Don't forget about Teleport fatigue :^]

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>ARMOR HACS ARMOR HACS ARRRMOOR HACS

>>122979130
just keep calling the targets

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>pl/goon supercap epeen shitflinging in Hek local

>>122954213
>Premium Status

>Gain an edge over your competition with a Premium status for faster fame progression, higher resource yields and many more.

no thanks

Orph.link owner here. I'm currently having network issues so the server might be down for a while. (probably a few hours)

Will be back soon.

>>122985968

>EVE is different
>more money = more alts isn't p-pay2win!
>plex and character buying isn't pay2win!
>the mere fact that skills increase with amount of sub money spent isn't pay2win!

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PL member looking for /eog/ hordeling kohai

>>122985968
Premium Status is available in different durations, from just 1 day up to an entire year, and allows you to benefit of the following perks:
Increase your skill progression speed with a 50% fame bonus
Master the Destiny Board faster with regenerating Learning Points
Collect 50% more Silver and loot from killing mobs
Improve your crafting with regenerating crafting focus
Become a master gatherer with a 50% bonus on your gathering yield
Enjoy a 100% increase on your farming yield and animal growth times on your player island
Boost your trading profits by having market taxes reduced by 50%
Sign-Up Bonus
Once you have purchased your first 30 days of premium, you will receive:

the option to buy and upgrade your very own player island
a one-time Learning Point bonus for a progression boost on your Destiny Board
a one-time crafting focus bonus for some heavy crafting sessions

kale pls

>>122988182
aka pay to progress significantly faster.
As the other anon said, no thanks.

>>122988468
>MMO's should be free :^]

>>122988795
No, but they would do good not to use a shitty monetization model.

>>122989043
It acts just like a subscription. I'm not sure whats shitty about it?

Integrating a F2P option with a soft subscription for progression rates is preferable to a flat subscription. Enjoy your ever declining Playerbase in EVE :^]

>>122986346
>>the mere fact that skills increase with amount of sub money spent isn't pay2win!
>implying you can't buy SP packages straight now

>>122990085
>What is buying a character

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>want to be a fancy roleplayer
>try to be in-character as much as possible
>people make fun of me

It hurts, /eog/... why does CONCORD allow bullying...

>>122990883
end your life while you still can

>>122990883
kail pls

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>>122990883
The only legitimate roleplay is ERP

All other roleplay is gay.

>>122990883
Join proviblock.

>>122991554
How about gay ERP?

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http://imgur.com/a/ZgChX

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>>122997428

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Is theer a way to organize your BPs/ items into folders?

I know of station containers, but something that can be put inside them to create a tree structure?

>>122906786
#BROADCAST4REPS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaL-66nHN9c

:6]

>Change computer
>Change settings to max
>Look around
>Massive erection


Future is now

>>122998531
wew lad
don't kill urself we need ur cash

>>122999582
>zoom in on ship
>it's 2010 again

TFW no /dog/ table at eve london

>>123001250
How do you pronounce the ">" in >amarr irl?

>>123001416
>meming in irl

>>123001817
>he doesn't have a rageface t-shirt

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Vote Xenuria

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Typical Eve Player

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>>123001416
you just kind of glance really hard to the side while saying it

>>123002837
>Picture 76
How many pictures of Xenuria do you have?

>>123002491
https://zkillboard.com/kill/48514309/

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>Apocalypse Navy Issue

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>>123015545
my irl

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>station games
https://zkillboard.com/kill/50292734/

>>123016309
>sleipnir

tfw claymore will never be good

>The OSS

Wait is EVE really dying? Been thinking of giving it another go. Tried a free trial about a year or two ago? Game seemed pretty lively.

>>123016309
you

you are my nigga

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>>123021003

It's quiet at the moment. CCP are updating things bi-monthly to update the game. Give it a go now if you want to see how much has changed but the big updates (Citadels etc) are not until the beginning of next year. Numbers then will decide if the game has much life left in it.

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>>122991426
fuck off
tengoo posts only

and wexa kek images

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>>122997428

>Hull damage
>Big Fire and Lighting system problem

Nice.

>ships go on fire in space in the future
lol

>>123023906
http://www.theatlantic.com/video/archive/2013/06/heres-what-happens-when-you-light-a-fire-in-space/276950/

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>>123023906

>Alternate gasses/solids burning under a cool flame
>Plasma
>Its a game where pod people can transmit there consciousness thousands of lightyears in a matter of seconds

How come everyone says the svipul is the most OP ship in the game and how cancerous it is?

I mean its fine for 1v1s and elite lowsec pvp but it seems like a shit ship for small gang or the average null outnumbered and outshiped style of fights.

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>>123021821
As much as I like EVE, the numbers probably won't go much up after citadel. EVE is still 3deep5you for your average gamer today and space nerds are a dying breed.

>>123023906
>ships are filled with vacuum guise, totally no flammable materials inside and crew breathes nothing xDDD

>>123025206
>cold flame
doesn't sound very destructive or fire-like at all.

>>123025304
>a magician did it

>>123025984
Not much they can do, CCP has already lowered their entry level difficulty quite a bit and introduced a fuckton of tools for new people to ketchup.

If they go too far they lose their very longtime loyal costumers, its just not their fault the average gaymer is so pussified, but at the same time why would you want CCP to open the doors to those kind of people.

>>123026365
>introduced a fuckton of tools for new people to ketchup.

like what? let's say i sign up for today and i want to compete with the people with a decade or more sunk into skills - what do i do?

>>123026880
You specialize.

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>>123026995

great advice, let me just pick a ship i like and gain all the skills needed to fly it at maximum effe-oh

>>123026880
you enjoy the greater starting sp
you enjoy the lack of learning skills
you enjoy the lack of racial attributes
you pick an area to specialize
you play strategically with the aim of legitimately buying a higher sp character for isk in a reasonable amount of time
you hope that sp packets are released

>>123027487
oh look its dror
good thing he identified himself, easier to hide replies

>>123027487
Mastery 5 is always retarded.

So many basically useless shit thrown in. Mastery2-3 gives you the basics then you max up your tank and damage. Done.

>>123026880
You're so full of shit you must be a hisec faggot. All these vets you are pissing your pants over are 1-3 years old. And they fly fucking cruiser fleets.
And nobody complained about skill grind when it was 5 year old vets asking people to train carrier, dread and subcap alts. But now 2 months for cruiser guns and hull is just impossible to do. Fuck off if you can't do a few months wait you wouldn't do it even if CCP gave you the required SP.

>>123026365
>the gaymer is pussified
>HTFU -> it's literally torture to scam people -> message from CCP: please don't take your own life this holiday season
Yeah it's obviously the pussy gaymers fault.

>>123027632
Don't encourage him, he knows that hes just baiting.

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>>123016309
am i a bad person /dog/?

>>123027558

400k whole starting skills! thanks that shaves an entire couple of weeks off my three years training time. whew

>>123027921
Nobody cares.

>>123027558
>you enjoy the lack of learning skills

But when learning skills were in the game it was substantially faster to train. Remember that blogpost about them nerfing skill training, citing the fact that a new player could get into a drake or hurricane and have a significant impact on battles in very little time?

This was during the drakemeta, so they were very clearly just trying to disguise a 'we need more money' change as a 'we're fixing drakes' change. Anyway, the point is they made it take about 25% longer to train into any specific ship.

>>123028131
i wasn't playing then, so i don't remember that. your retelling of it sounds a bit suspect, but ok

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>>123028120

>its easy 2 be a newbie in eve just train a lot and work hard
>But it takes years of training to fly any particular ship at maximum effectiveness. If you haven't been playing sub fees for years, you will be gimped compared to older players. This is pay-2-win.
>N-NOONE CARES! FUCK OFF!

EVE players are the most insecure man children in the world. 'Hardcore' playerbase my ass. Everyone throws a tantrum at the idea of new players being able to put themselves on level playing ground with old ones.

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Anon stop right now, he was baiting and waiting for this.
Lets talk about the Arbitrator now.

>>123028332
except we have a living example of a rookie kicking ass

nootkin

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>>123028426
Best looking amarr ship

>>123028426

Dismissing an argument because you have no reply to it is a sign your argument is unwinnable.

>>123028470

Doesn't matter. You can cherrypick as many examples as you want - the game is still biased toward those who have paid sub fees for years. It is pay-2-win. On a macro scale you see this clearly, with Brave losing as soon as the older players pulled out their supercaps which Brave lacked the skills to fly.

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Ignore him, hide his replies.
Don't think you can win with "arguments" he will ignore them like they never existed.

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>>123028659
it really is no sp fag

>>123028332
>at the idea of new players being able to put themselves on level playing ground with old ones.

there may be some tantrum throwing, but i'm pretty certain it's not because of that. it's at the idea of an influx of people without a demonstrated commitment to the game shitting it up, and at the idea of a game company with a history full of questionable implementation attempting a full-scale overhaul of a game that's miraculously kept its feet for 12 years. better the devil we know than the devil we don't.

>>123028781
i'm sorry, i know, and i'll stop now.

>>123028781
thukkar skin whennnn

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>tfw you've become so good at hiding Dror bait you can kill a svipul and hide his posts at the same time

>>123028827
>it's at the idea of an influx of people without a demonstrated commitment to the game shitting it up

Paying subscription fees does not mean you have a demonstrated commitment to the game.

>>123027712
If CCP want less dead players they need to incentize living. It's like where is the carrot CCP?

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>/eog/ getting assdestroyed with good arguments
>desperately hides the posts

Just like ingame. If you just dock up, no one can hurt you, right?

Even though it's just one guy.

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>he keeps replying to dror bait

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Reminder that hes STILL trying to bait you into his bait.
He WILL ignore your argument, don't waste your time.
Picture Dror as a Kitsune with his mids filled with your ship's sensor ECM asking you for a gudfite with a falcon alt cloaked off station, just warp away.

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>eve online

>>123029748

Whose argument is being ignored here except for mine? I have replied to everything that wasn't something like 'DROR YOUR A GAY ASS BUTT POOP'. You are the ones ignoring my arguments because they are airtight and you have no reply to them. They aren't inflammatory, they just scare you because they are correct.

I'm not 'dror' by the way. Not everyone who disagrees with you is one person.

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Don't believe his lies.

>>123029775
What's this?

Is Dror the new scapegoat like how Tengoo was?

>>123030982

nice try dror

>>123031335
Lord Mandalore alt spotted.

>>123030596
some people were sharing this link on facebook during the summer and i found that screencap of mine that i'd taken at the time and posted in their thread.

https://apps.quanticfoundry.com/lab/10

>>123031487
i believe thats spelled lord memedalore
the bistot baron
the arkonor archduke
the pyroxeres prince
the scordite sultan
the crokite count
the kernite killer
the jaspet jester
the omber oligarch
the plagioclase pirate
the spodumain shooter
the veldspar viscount
the gneiss general
and so on

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>reddit faggot releases a machariel blitzing guide
>his fit isn't polarized

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1knVqZEH8qFY0eT44nMEFwcKd3t4PbgcZeuv58SVUxsI/pub

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>>123031516
>about how many days do you spend at least 30 minutes playing a video game?
>30minutes
fucking normies

>steam
it was a gift, main accounts are regular

>>123032205
his fit is not even T2 guns kek

>>123031840
memedalore is dead. thanks for being an insensitive douche bro.

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>>123031516
>muh immersion

I GOT 4 BILLION IN MARKET STUFF AND NOBODY IS BUYING IT REEEEEE


BUY IT YOU FUCKOS I WANNA BUY MYSELF A CARRIER

>>123032849
kek
most of the people in the fb thread i mentioned had immersion more or less maxed out and were naming things like elder scrolls, fallout, dragon age, etc as their preferred titles

when you think about it eve is a different fucking animal man

>>123032803
youre dead keko
and if not you should probably consider killing yourself

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>>123028332
Shut the fuck up, nigger. It's always the "muh years of skills" argument, but you can train into the present pvp meta in a few weeks/months.

Also someone explain why are the 0,1 tags so expensive.

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>>123033894
nigga im hardcore fo real

>>123033976
you know what they're used for yeah?

>>123034479
Raising sec status iirc, but the 0,3 are only like 3M or so.

>>123033976

They are for people with higher security ratings so are used more by people who go to hi-sec but pvp in lowsec.

Nice editing senpai.

You know people can locate you by checking your name Siegmund Ingvalt.

>>123034272
I could get a tat like that, but i'm an actual Geologist so my colleagues would call me a retard for mispelling Feldspar.

>>123034272
dammit chribba

>>123034758
everyone knows our bro siegmund, bro

>>123034758
Are there even more danker clones in nullsec? And don't locator agents cost a shitton of money?

>>123035363

The only danker clones are pod people m8.

>don't locator agents cost a shitton of money
>being poor in EVE

whew.

>>123035598
>wasting money to find a noob

>>123035754
>Not spending enough to teach a noob about security.


It's basically good for him

>>123035967
Even if I edited my name, some autist would find me from the position of stars or a shape of a rock.
and I've already been memekilled

So like, how invested does someone have to be in this game?
I have a 5 day a week job. Will I have enough time during the week to get anything accomplished?

>>122949951
5v5 pvp territory battles zzzzzz

>>123036431
it honestly depends on what you want to get accomplished. there are plenty of activities that scale very well with time logged in, decisions made or accounts subbed that don't require a whole lot of input from you. There are other activities (like single-account pvp) that require a good deal of focus and time to become skilled at. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that there is only one way to play the game.

I'm pretty confident that there is an activity that can fit around pretty much anyone's time constraints in this game if you look around. Just don't try to run a corp or something. And there are plenty of people in situations like yours.

>>123036431
Not very considering skill training and waiting is a huge part of the game. Skill at playing the game however is a different issue.

You can only fly well if you actively try to PvP instead of being a carebear (one that stays in highsec avoiding fights)

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so it came from reddit, idgaf

holy shit muh

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>>123039772
ok you can fuck off now

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dick

>>123039919
>This is what happens to your space dick if you lay with a Gallente slut

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>>123039772
>>123039919
>clicking approach

>Thrasher
>Gallente space

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Ok CCP, now do some proper explosions and wrecks.

So much of this game doesn't make sense. There's hundreds of modules that are essentially never used, but they aren't buffed. Subcap fleets are basically just t3c and sometimes machariels.

Frigates are punished for shield fits and local-rep armor battleships/cruisers have no chance of tanking as well as local-rep shield fits, thanks to discrepancies in shield vs armor ancillary reps that make no sense. Close range medium weapons are almost 100% inferior to long range ones.

>Close range medium weapons are almost 100% inferior to long range ones.
wrong

>local-rep armor battleships/cruisers have no chance of tanking as well as local-rep shield fits
wrong with a few exceptions

>Frigates are punished for shield fits
wrong

>hundreds of modules that are essentially never used
name 5

>Subcap fleets are basically just t3c and sometimes machariels.
wrong

>>123043302
Talking like a true F1 nullbaby

>>123043302
>Modules aren't buffed

First of all my module types are used, there's very few that aren't.

Secondly, have you heard of Module Tiericide? Because that specifically normalizes the modules.

>>123044256
most module types ****

So, for PI, you basically jsut make Coolant and call it a day?

>>123046042
Or Uranium.

>>123047909
Well, i certainly could become a uranium merchant. Thanks m8.

>>123048182
>Not selling planetary vehicles.

>>123049296
And have my planet overrun by niggers a few decades after ?

No, i won't repeat the errors of Mr Ford.

>>123027765
You are EVE cancer in one picture

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Do you think the small deadspace remote reps will have a reneissance with the new T2 logi frigs? They are kinda valuable, but they don't move on the market at all. I sold like 3 this month.

>>123032996
Just stop trading in Rens

>>123050218
Why I'm using quite a lot of those on my logi adventure. Fuck my promises.

>>123050447
do you want to buy 2 centii A-types m8? They are just lying here.

>>123050447
>>123050564
Just fuck already

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>>123052143
I'm only 2d gay.

Hey, is there a WH corp that's recruiting here besides All-Out (preferably EUTZ)?

>>123050564
They use 4pg more per unit, but fuck that. Put contract to Sabina from Amarr with some fair price.

>>123052875
I could get you into one but its not a 4chin corp. How long have you played for or how much SP do you have? What do you like doing?

>>123054895
I've got about 66M SP, and I started playing in 2011 I think. I took a year or so off and just started playing again. I've always liked scouting around enemy territory, so WH space is a logical place to go, but I'm a relative newbie in W-space.

>>123055031
What are you expecting from a corp? We're a really small corp (like most WH corps). We're industrial focused.

Leave profile link or contact if interested.

>>123055345
inb4 spanish incursion/industry corp

>>123055489
Its just a small private corp in which a few of us do industry.

>>123055345
Well, I do want to do PVP. Industry is fine, even a good thing, so long as it's not the only thing.

That said, I do have this on my record:
http://greedygoblin.blogspot.ch/2012/07/the-worst-scammer-ever.html
TL,DR: While I was with TEST (and a diplo at the time) I decided to try scamming with my alt. I'm apparently really bad at it.

>>123055910
>>123052875
to put this in perspective all-out ejected this man

>>123055992
Looks like it. I doubt my CEO would be happy if I recruited him.

http://evewho.com/pilot/Mumble07

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
all-out here
mumble, if you're sincerely looking for a corp, i hope you find what you're looking for. was just too much of a chance to take for us, esp given everything else that was going on when you applied.

keep in mind that you can hang out in public channels, talk to people and shoot the shit, maybe roam with people, and build personal capital that way.

>>123049910
tools of the trade for elite small gang m8

>>123056297
I know, I'm just exploring my options. I'll probably be on tomorrow evening if someone wants to do a roam or something.

>>123056489
not at all

>>123056489
You're as elite as marmites or pirat

>>123056497
I doubt it'll be easy for you to find a corp

>>123057246
It wont be

maybe a line member corp but thats it

>>123055910
Too bad, playing supcom with you was pretty good and were always in need of more people

>>123055992
I was sad when that happened, he's useful as a 5th player for FAF Supreme Commander nights. Or was.

>>123057940
Speaking of which
If you play supcom, join all-out!

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>>123057940
well its not like I can stop you from recruiting him now, eh?

pls dont be mad for poaching

>>123058001
bet you nerds dont even play with mods

If you're bad and you know it, Join All-Out
If you're bad and you know it, Join All-Out
If you're bad and you know it, then your fit will surely show it
If you're bad and you know it, Join All-Out.

>>123057868
>>123057940
>>123058001
This desu, if any of you want to play FAF Supreme Commander in the evenings European time and want a corp, come join All-Out and I'll sponsor you for you PvP ships in the corp (within reason) - Amplify

>>123058215
>Amplify
200m sp of wasted potential

>>123058215
>within reason
And what is within reason?

>>123058272
214m*
I was actually planning on playing again within the next week, then a new war happened.

>>123058352
Not T2/T3 or battleships and you're expected to plat insure your shit. Subject to change if you die a lot even for all out standards.

>>123058362
just dont go to amarr its literaly the only place pirat lives

>>123058438
I can't do incursions if there's a war on, doesn't matter where they live. Need to raise my funds first, spent most of my money on those blood raider implants.

>>123058537
you can do combats / relics in our chain for dank money

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>>123058537
>spent most of my money on those blood raider implants.

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>he spent money on cerebral accelerators

>>123058615
>>123058621
Getting them myself would have taken effort.

>>123058593
Was hoping for something I can do without having to mash Dscan.

VOTE YOU FAGGOTS

http://strawpoll.me/6070041
http://strawpoll.me/6070041
http://strawpoll.me/6070041

>come back to eve
>check my zkillboard
>all industrial/mining/exploration ships
>red as fuck, no green whatsoever
>join all-out
>record first killmail ever on abandoned velator
>30 minutes later, a fucking Vargur

Gettin' that green feels so good, senpai

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>started playing too early to experience user friendly UI and tutorials
>started playing too late to witness BoB
>born just in time to be in White Stag Exit Bag

>dror is back

praise greyscale the shitposting will continue.

>>123060115
Go to bed shard.

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>>123060115

>>123059362
And then you get got killed by someone in my alliance in a really shitty VNI fit.

>>123058725
>12 votes
>no nullfags

>>123063129

Nulls are having to fite in lowsec to get content.

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>>123055910
lmfao

>>123029028
are you me, holy shit

>>123043302
Yeah actually this is sadly true. Regular t1 ships are super underpowered right now, most battleships are borderline garbage. That MIGHT chance with the dread rework, we'll see, I'm doubtful.

T3s are the real problem though, they're fucking cancerous and boring "hurr here are some bricked t3 cruisers, don't ask me to be creative or anything, just slap some LR turrets on them or whatever man". Then spice with some random assorted support ships and logi and BAM fleet that can only be beaten by being blobbed, or horrible internal incompetence.

>>123069417
they buffed pirate faction way too much, and t2/t3 has always been too good

>>123069417
as a strategy games players my first thought is to reply

>There are no invincible solutions, you are just too lazy to find their weaknesses and set up to exploit them
which may be the case with EVE players: half-assed corporations, Mittani who wants to be le ebin space generalissimo but doesn't implement any sort of military strategy to his doing, the list can go on.

Which triggers my autism: I often fantasize what if somebody where to go full RP, start specializing groups of players, training them in battle roles, setup the command and control structure, the infrastructure ...

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>>123069960
>mfw strategy games concepts are so retarded you can't even apply them to other games

>>123069960

The only weakness T3Cs have is T3Cs, hence why every large alliance uses them as its main doctrine.

>>123070961
there's also overpowered ewar- ecm and sensor damps. if anything is ever overpowered and you say anything about it, some retard will come along and tell you you're bad for not spamming loads of ecm and/or damps at it, even though you probably already do that. as though the overpoweredness of ecm and damps makes other things ok.

Anyone PHorde here

>PHorde

why aren't you flying a punisher?

So is there anyone currently in goons around here? What are you guys going to do in cloud ring now that your fight left? Go ahead and take it on a permanent basis, or just burn it a bit and leave?

>>123070961
They are also pretty weak against some BShips too, specially machs, a good fleet of machs can alpha T3Cs with ease 800s or 1400s.

>>123077490
Do you really care what the goons do?

>>123058537
>all-out lives with a C3 static
>EU All-Out compelled to do incursions under wardec

Please lose a fucking nightmare you mongoloid.

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How do you want your doomsday senpai?

>>123081910
dank

>>123081910
Gonna take forever to rep that out.

>>123076684
because its slow and only has 2 mids

>>123082416
he should be able to remove all the bulkheads then rep out the hull, I think Siege even doubles the rate of hull reppers

>>123082528
it's not slow

>>123081910
>tfw that extra compensation skill saved you

>>123070694
>I'll just spam le cheapest unit lel

and that's how you get the goons :^)

>>123084548
its the slowest frigate in the game

>>123086973
>lets just lose this mach fleet to provi caracals

If I'm in All-Out can I join Oruze Cruise

Is there any point in me playing this now? I remember I had a bit of fun playing this and doing missions in a Megathron, but I'm curious if the game has just gone to complete shit since I last played. This would have been about 2-3 years ago.

>>123089445
>fun
>missions

just why, this is a pvp game

>>123088734
Joining all-out is one way to be in contact with oruze for a while, which is pretty much a requirement to join them. There is no graduation program, only the strength of your memes.

>>123089569
I didn't say it was a lot of fun anon, most of it was anticipation of actually getting to the point where I could PvP somewhat properly.

>>123088734
apply inside

>>123089713
you can pvp properly m8. you don't need lots of skill points or isk.

>>123089827
Well I need the isk for muh free subs

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>oruze

>>123089445
Join tengoo
That is to say all-out

>>123089982
it's not free if you waste a stupid amount of time grinding for it, just pay the sub

>>123090146
Shootin the shit here, but i always wished i could do a gatecamp with like 10 other Rokh pilot a 100km away.

>>123090146
MUH
FREE
SUBS

You still haven't answered if it's worth it, so I'm going to take that as a no and nope on out of here

>>123090293
it's a stupid question. is it worth it? are you asking if it's a good game? we all play it, so I guess we think it is.

>>123090425
I'll take that as a clearer no then

>>123090425
I think it's shit and a second job, but it's on
e of the only place free of >>123090293
faggotry so i deal with it

>>123090115
Kaile hasn't processed my application to Tengoo yet.

>>123091001
why would you apply to such a shit corp?

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>you will never join tengoo

>>123090425
this

I MOVED MY 4 BILL ORDERS TO JITA AND IT STILL ISNT SELLING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

FUCKING BUY MY SHIT JESUS

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Those skills you keep putting off, which ones are they dog?

>>123095994
tactical shield manipulation 5

>>123096321
>actually training TSMV

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>>123096321

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>>123095994
kekdari cruiser v

>>123096321
Does that skill even do anything?

>>123097367
of course it does, it guarantees replies

>>123094509
r-i-p re:wasted fees brofesta

>>123097367
>Reduces the chance of damage penetrating the shield when it falls below 25% by 5% per skill level, with 0% chance at level 5.
At level 5 no damage can penetrate your shields. You become invincible.

>>123098006
:^)

>https://zkillboard.com/kill/50298975/
>fcoon

>PL

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ELITE SOLO PVP COURTESY OF ALL-OUT, JOIN ALL-OUT

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>>123099136
>memes

>>123099136
worm should've won that easy

>>123099581
not so sure, its clearly a shit poorfag fit
he shouldn't have died tho.

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>all-out of EUTZ

>>123100395
more like meme team amirite
eutz fags pls join all-in

>>123099136
There's nothing hard about grabbing a super tanked scram web ship and waiting for retards to get close to you.

>>123100262
literally press orbit, release drones and turn on mods. free moa kill.

>>123100717
>moa just runs away

>>123100807
>mwd frigate
>moa runs away

>>123100903
in what scenarios is the moa gonna be in the middle of nowhere far away from any gates? in nullsec.
Plus the moa can just rape the drones and suddenly the worm only does 1/4 of the dmg, passive shield regen can probably tank the missiles.

>>123101095
great so now you're permatackled by a worm, op success

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>blasters

>>123101286
throw drones on him, shoot with long range ammo, unless he is good (he wasn't) he will break point at least for a second, meanwhile you're burning to gate at full hp.

MUH PERMATACKLE

>>123101459
>drones

oh boy 3 light drones

>long range ammo

so on pulse lasers that's what 10km

>gate

implying

>>123101582
ok so hes perma tackled, the worm is still not killing him and never fucking will.

>>123102145
so your anti-frigate meme fit is in a terrible position against a frigate

>>123102269
apparently not, since he fucking REKT that worm and stiletto.
Stop trying to come up with scenarios where everyone is amazing at the game, most people suck ass, most people will get in scram range of a ship that wants to fight you in scram range.

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How does this make you feel /eog/

>>123102506
>>123102269
>>123102145
>>123101582
Guys I love you both, never stop your shitty internet arguments

>>123102506
I feel like we already had this exact same conversation

>>123102728
well, it's better than a phantasm