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Rust Or Bust Edition

Old thread: >>122906786
Thread permalink: http://orph.link/eog

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/t9Af7NJY (embed)

Future:
>Spring: Citadel expansion & cap rebalance release
>Spring: Amarr Championship finals: Tash-Murkon (Kelon Darklight) vs Kor-Azor (Lysus)
>Dec 08: holiday Operation Frostline begins -
>Dec 08: 4 command dessies, 4 ewar frigs, 4 logi frigs, ice frig, scramming HICs, nos/neut tiercide, missile disruption, new camera & LOTS of visual candy

Past:
>Nov 23: Leak of possible Frostline rewards on Sisi imgur.com/gallery/zQ7ED/new
>Nov 19: Dropbears are all out of All-Out's hole
>Nov 18: MITTENS & CO GET RUSED THE FUCK OUT BY PH, AUTZ BEST TZ
>Nov 17: Command Dessie feedback thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6171886#post6171886
>Nov 12: Capital focus group members announced
>Nov 10: POSes and POCOs can be killed again
>Nov 05: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-economy-update-eve-vegas-2015-report/
>Nov 05: Manny kicked from CSM (leaks?)
>Nov 03: Parallax: "Bugs in a Box", jump fatigue reduced, entosis regen
>Oct 26: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/building-your-citadel-one-block-at-a-time/
>Oct 25: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reworking-capital-ships-and-thus-it-begins/
>Oct 15: SP trading concept presented
>Sep 29: Battlecruisers get Foozie'd nice and good.
>Aug 13: Citadel FAQ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mEbMx9xUXje3KH4AppvcjSSoALUVtVEaK6ZZ-zy2Lrs/edit#
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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...clever girls...
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Not as cute as Typhoon-chan.
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/new-designer-skin-line-valimor-legacy-available-for-gallente-ships/

"valmor legacy"?
more like "graphics: legacy"
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>skins
literally a scam
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whew lad
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>>123283428
so poor
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>>123283805
>mfw CCP were caught in the scam and people still shill for them by posting every one of their "quality assured" skins
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>>123284035
>mfw you were caught being poor
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>>123284159
>mfw you are one of the goyim foretold by hilmar
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>mfw retarded nullfags
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>>123283407
so wait

valmor legacy is just a dark gray skin?
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>>123286398
it's very dark green and shit grey, so it'll just look like a boring dark thing with no colour, like most eve ships.
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For every item I view the Price History of, data on the last 5 days is missing. What's this about?
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>>123286516

>it's very dark green and shit grey, so it'll just look like a boring dark thing with no colour, like EVE online.

fixed
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>>123286801
post a screenshot?
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>>123282924
7800km Grids coming December, what will break?
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>>123287090
not really anything

but I'm totally waiting for grids to be covered in mobile depots and shit
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>>123286994
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>>123287240
Send a petition in and ask CCP why they haven't generated price data for days that haven't happened yet

you fucking retard
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>>123287240
you have your filter set to "last five days" and so it's showing the last five days of data up to the present time at the middle, and then extrapolations of the future past the middle. Those green bars at the bottom are how much sold on each of the past five days, relative to each other (the actual numbers bought/sold are the 2000/1000/0 ticks on the bottom right). As you can see, there are five green bars.
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>>123287491
hes looking for 5 day history, meaning the last 5 days of that item on market you dolt not 5 days into the future thats not what a history is
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>>123287491
>>123287546
Embarrassment.
It's getting late already, I better head to bed.
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>>123287706
>no blushing anime
step it up sempai
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>>123287983
>mfw I don't have a reaction images folder
///////
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>>123287090
Bookmarks, wormholes, probably POSes and some deadspace pocket they forgot to move further from its gate.
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h-help me eog i'm scared
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>http://pastebin.com/vfF9zgz6
You guys should feel bad for not supporting the kikestarter!
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>>123289162
I don't give a fuck one way or the other. It was doomed to fail from day 1 anyway with that goal.
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>>123289162
I think it's more along the lines of "don't be toxic" but of course that's going to fall on deaf ears.
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>>123289630
Pretty sure it goes along the lines of "Buy my Book"
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>>123283754
>mfw I bought one of that dress type and it forces you to wear pants or a bottom skirt before continuing
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>>123290000
Nice
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>>123290000
>dress
>doesn't cover crotch
ICELAND
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tfw blobbed
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>>123293046
>gf o7
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>male characters still can't have breasts
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>female characters still can't have penises
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>still no SecondLife station interior with fucking and gambling
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>>123287491
mack pls
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>tfw want to join a corp and learn actual combat but too shy
f-fighting easy pirates is pretty much the same, r-right?
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>>123296880
join fw
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>Pontifex
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>>123298332
faction warfare? does it have people willing to mentor?
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>>123301191
well, you might consider this: >>122987840

translation: I am a member of PL and am interested in finding a newer player from /eog/ who is in Pandemic Horde and is looking for a mentor
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>I am a member of PL
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>http://pastebin.com/QT7yxnBC
>Endie H: that was isk->cash in a way that I couldn't deal with
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>>123303264
>Endie H: Their problem is that the things that would be good for gsf would put their business model at risk

GEVLON
GOBLIN
RIGHT
AGAIN
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>tfw no raata raven skin
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>>123303937
dude's gonna be masturbating to this forever
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>>123296880
what's ur sp? Lookin for eog Bros but want to make sure you'd be useful
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>>123288832
thats some dumb market manipulation

the buy out prices won't fucking clear unless they jump up a lot
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hey, /eog/ killed anything good lately?
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>>123308389
Just an abandoned mobile tractor.
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>>123308851
aw that sucks, good luck anon, you'll find something nice soon
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What are you flying tonight /eog/?
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remember

http://eve-search.com/thread/370578-0
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EVE-central doesn't have newer skins in the database. What does a Valklear Golry Thrasher cost?
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>>123309224
spectre?
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>>123309224
link fit
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>>123309224
If thats armor fit you should probably kill yourself.
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>>123310197
if that's shield fit you should probably kill yourself
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>>123310197
>not having RR sins with you on every jump
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>>123310484
literally what is solo blopsing
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>>123310042
god no

>>123310092
[Panther, Spurdo späre :DD]

Centum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy 1600mm Steel Plates
Corpum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster, Targeting Range Script
Gist X-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive
True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
Large Micro Jump Drive

800mm Repeating Cannon II
True Sansha Heavy Energy Neutralizer
800mm Repeating Cannon II
True Sansha Medium Energy Neutralizer
800mm Repeating Cannon II
Improved 'Guise' Cloaking Device II
800mm Repeating Cannon II
800mm Repeating Cannon II

Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Large Trimark Armor Pump II


Valkyrie II x5
Gecko x2
Warrior II x5


Barrage L x785
Hail L x705
Republic Fleet EMP L x1575
Republic Fleet Fusion L x1305
Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L x980
Nanite Repair Paste x58
Navy Cap Booster 800 x6


>>123310197
I'd probably tell you to kill yourself but people are gonna do that for you if you fly shield panther
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>>123308389
maybe u should leave PH and join a real space corporation NOOB
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>>123310721
stupid
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>>123310726
lol senpai my nyx isn't fit that shiny
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>>123310726
wow so fucking shit
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>>123311336
I don't care :)
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>>123310943
If you're stupid.
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>>123311412
Obviously not, you're just a F1 monkey.
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>>123311590
That's literally what blops is in every shape or form.
Solo or not.
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>>123311758
this is bait
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>>123311758
>He doesnt know how to fly a blops, only knows what people told him
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>>123311821
Show me your elite PVP videos/KMs of you BLOPsing
I'll wait
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>>123310484
>shitfitting your sin

>>123310721
a meme
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>>123312173
theres a russian who does it in an officer sin that nigga is a g
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>>123312307
Gulnar was a good friend, quit the game a little while ago.
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>>123312490
How can people quit eve?
Like I understand people taking very long breaks but I've never anyone actually say bye to EVE after playing since the start or for a long time.
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>>123312307
it's a memefit and you're terrible if you think that's the only way to blops
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>>123312638
>That's literally what blops is in every shape or form

>if you think that's the only way to blops

nice strawman faggot

fuck i bit
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>>123312634
Because the game has decayed terribly. I'm also on a break from the game. Havent decided if I want to come back.
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>>123312869
>>That's literally what blops is in every shape or form

nope
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>EvE will die if you don't kickstarter the book

I mean, people were saying this ironically at first, and now goons are saying it ironically
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>>123313927
The general problem is with the le epic players who shit on the book and their only argument is >goons lmao xD
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Any sign of a Christmas present leak yet, or are we expecting something like last year's MCT stuff?

Cosmetics are all well and good, but I love me some gimmick shit.

>TFW I still have ~30 Geckos
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>>123314763
probs some gay feawen shit
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>>123314763
See pasta, Nov 23. Found on sisi unannounced but unknown if Christmas present or frostline reward or what.
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Scram her right in the pussy
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>>123319028
EXTREME KEK DUDE
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so whats this RMT thing going on now with goonshits
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>>123312634
I have a character from 2009 from the original /v/ corp but because I take long breaks I only have about 300million sp.
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>>123321451
>300million sp.
sure thing senpai
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>>123303264
>CCP never gassed the playerbase
>this is the future they chose
rip in shit EVE literally no hope to stay alive in 2016
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>only 2 weeks until punisher nerf
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>>123322092
martini pls go
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>>123324230
wot?
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>>123321325
anyone
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>>123324546
Nothing new, TMC pays their staff in ISK from CFC's taxes, which in turn generates ad revenue. That's legit by the EULA to cover for server costs and shit on 3rd party sites, only in this case it also pays mittani&co's salary.
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>>123324546
It's not RMT like you think.
>alliance leadership used isk to fund a for profit business in exchange for money
>shilled the fuck out of some game in the alliance for money
>shilled the fuck out of some book in the alliance for money
It's just goons living up to their jewish roots have managed to turn a corporation into a business and are running it into the ground for that sweet cash.
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>there will be no book because everybody is "haha i shit on goons, I'm so cool amirite xD"
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>>123321325
in simple terms
>alex "the mittani" gianturco, along with a few other goon leaders, jointly own themittanidotcom
>a significant amount of alliance level income is used to subsidize TMC projects - paying authors with plex / ships, funding stream raffles, etc
>those kinds of TMC projects drive viewership to the TMC website
>site viewers mean ad revenue, which goes to the site's owners as dollars and cents.
in other words, alliance assets are being converted into money and placed into leaders' pockets

the reason CCP hasn't done anything about it yet is because the "exchange rate" is fluid and depends entirely on site viewership and is several steps more complicated than "isk in -> dollars out". It's a grey area though, and that's why the people involved don't generally publicize what's going on. People have been saying what i've been saying for literal years now, but this leaked log is proof that even the people inside are split on whether what's going on is reasonable or not.

Complicating matters is the kickstarter.

It could be totally legit and unbiased and sourced equally well from test/goons/pl/nc. and with all the money going to the author, or it could be very biased and the money mismanaged - no one can say because all of that's in the future. In any case, TMC media is certainly repping the book+kickstarter very hard because whether or not it goes through, it's still hits on their site and money in their pockets because they are the driving force behind it.

And on another angle, there is the school of thought that says mittens+co are seeing the decline of eve and have decided "to hell with running a healthy, functional and active alliance; it's time to cash out" and every action taken since (and including) the rebranding to "the imperium" have been steps designed for maximum profile and profit with no regard to long term consquences (because the assumption is that the end is near anyway so who cares).

On the upside, goons could be kill soon.
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>>123326197
And on the downside the biggest coalition in the game by far would rather kill the game than risk their web revenue.
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>>123326828
eve is real
goons are evil
join MoA today
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>>123325327
>>123326197

disgusting. I hope ccp nukes them. I feel bad for tofias (the art director behind eve) but he never should have gone in bed with the goosn for this shit

this is as cobbled and fucked as their legacy code, goddamn it.
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>goons are cashing out by making a website and advertising a book
>they're so evil to make money off EVE
meanwhile CCP have released thousands of dollars of skins in the past few months for a fucking subscription based game. LMFAO eve players never not retarded.
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>>123327539
RMT is illegal, CCP selling merchandise in their game is not
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so goons are finally getting hit for being an rmt empire?

what the fuck took so god damn long
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>>123328352
I mean they are cashing out. Also lol RMT is not illegal.
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>>123326197
how is this any different than people getting money/donations from streaming EVE on twitch?
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>>123328850
go away goon
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>>123328850
>Also lol RMT is not illegal.
its against the rules of the game dufus
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>>123329521
>twitch
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i like how people are saying ccp won't do anything based on a pastebin leak but thats exactly what happened to stunt
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>>123330217
Yeah who would they ban? Mittens isn't doing anything wrong. The people rmting are the guys giving him isk in exchange for a cut. Do you think CCP knows who they are? Do you think mittens will tell them?
Goons are jewish m8. They aren't mexicans who basically beg thin skinned devs to ban them.
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>>123330484
>Mittens isn't doing anything wrong. The people rmting are the guys giving him isk in exchange for a cut.

durrrrr
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>>123330762
its safe to say anybody who defends goons is a goon or likes to be a devil's advocate

they should nuke somethingawful forums already
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>>123330847

i could care less about goons or not but this is straight up against the tos and ccp has done far worse to people for far less and with far less proof
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>>123330847
>goonspiracy
ayyy. lemme tell you about how posting on 4chan is illegal and against the tos of EVE. durrrr it's true my uncle works for CCP and anyone who disagrees is a goon shill.
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i think the best part of this is how ccp won't do a god damn thing
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>>123331451
ironic shitposting is still shitposting, goon
go back to somethingawful
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>>123331629
I wouldn't be so sure, they're gonna get hit with a lot of reports about the RMT
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>>123332416

they still won't do anything about it

they'll either say mittens isn't responsible even though he is or that its too hard to track down those involved, which it also is
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>>123332610
logibro must be fucking mad ;_;
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>>123326197
>site viewers mean ad revenue, which goes to the site's owners as dollars and cents.
That's not even close to RMT. Is this what you fags are sperging about?
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>>123333586

no
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>>123333586
Apparently Eddie the goon disagrees with you
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>>123333953
Yes it is dummy. You guys don't even know who's talking in the pastebin.
>>123334613
>Eddie
wew
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>>123336292
>Yes it is dummy.

except its not, if it was just ad revenue for an eve based news source nobody would give a fuck, funnily enough its not that innocent
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>>123336536
Go ahead then. What is it.
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>>123337043

read the pastebin
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>>123337414
Exactly, you don't have a clue what's going on.
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>>123337643

how deep were you into the rmt scheme? are you upset that all the allegations ended up being true?
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what are you doing for money /dog/?
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>>123289630
meanwhile goonswarm preservers to be the most toxic community ingame
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>>123338775
Unsubbing
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>>123339032
The most toxic community in Eve is any individual or corp that has had any connection to Black Legion

If you have had any association with Black Legion you need to have a bullet in your skull, full stop
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>>123339229
:(
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>>123326197
>>123326828
>>123326964
>>123327478
one of the oldest biggest rusrus wormholers got banned last month for 'suspected RMT' so surely ccp can see fit to do something with the gsf situation right
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>>123339421

they should but i doubt they will

and there's a lot more evidence of goons doing shady shit than there was with some of the others that got hit
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>go to sisi to try out camera controls
>shortcuts in the settings don't work
>try the manual piloting controls with arrow keys (that work fine on TQ for me)
>ship goes nuts, glitching and flipping and bobbing up and down while flying upside down
ccpls
also do i have to turn something on explicitly to play with the new camera stuff?
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stop projecting goon
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>>123339363
dunking nerds is a toxic culture? i kinda liked black legion but i never had enough sp to fly with them effectively in their hayday
i would think placating the masses will taxing their low risk ratting incoming and engaging '5:1 blob or nofights' mentality would be worse
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>>123339558
mussah, your thrasher is upside down
just so you know
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>>123339916
help i'm getting seasick
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found it
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>ccp mention the new camera will be opt in
>devblogs mention the new camera will be opt in
>patch notes for sisi mention the new camera is opt in

>GUIS WHY WONT DIS CAMERA WERK
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>page 10
/eog/, please
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>>123339558
>upside down
>space game
Holy shit.
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>>123346880
yeah
we just try not to think about it
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/50334103/
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>>123325982
whats the problem with that?
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>>123348572
He probably drank the koolaid and believes the book will save EVE (which might not need as much saving as the doomsayers cry), despite the fact that the book isn't a CCP venture. It has CCP's permission (for now), and it may get a lot of people to trial EVE, but the retention of those new players will have nothing to do with the book and everything to do with their experience versus expectation during the trial.
If the book (which I doubt will be free) makes the game seem like something it isn't, you can be sure that CCP won't see any revenue from many of the readers.
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>>123349069
EVE isn't new. Everyone who in any way might be interested in this game has already played it.
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personally I think an influx of retarded newbie-normies joining EVE and shacking up with karmafleet would be awesome. free frigate kills to pad my kb
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>>123349069
I hate this narrative about saving eve with a book

goons could save eve right fucking now

all they have to do is stop using boredom as their fucking doctrine

people play the game to shoot at fucking spaceships not autistic map painting

so they can whine all they want
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>>123347318
wot
>>123349069
>free book
M8 it' the authors job. Of course it won't be free. Maybe for the backers. The point is, that we could have a book written by an actual author and not some literally who. It's not about saving the game, it's about having something other than the game to go with it. It's like the SCOPE.
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>>123339714
The sad fact is you just posted more proof of how toxic and disgusting you are and you didn't even realize it.
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>91 mils worth of plates in a single can
yes
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>>123351214
not that guy but can you spell it out for us retards what your problem with black legion is?
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>>123351350
Cancerous memelords.
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>>123351380
what does that even mean?
can you provide some examples?
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>>123351432
Go on r/eve, the home of most of black legion's cancerous fanbase..
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>>123351479
I dont really see anything mentioning black legion there
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Black Legion was basically:

>what if we took TEST
>filled it with Xx420smokemxX fags
>and made it a personality cult around some autistic candian faggot

That's Black Legion.
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>>123351536
Probably because it literally does no exist anymore.
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>>123351602
thats not black legion, they aren't a meme alliance
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>>123351993
>dogofwar
>dixon cox
>higher than everst
>broski north
>memelo knight
>WE WEREN'T A MEME ALLIANCE!
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So why isn't mittani banned after how many RMT incidents now?
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>>123352048
The amount of isk dog got paid to kill BL was hilarious.
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>>123352189
whats the story behind that?
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>>123352450
I'll tell the entire story here if he manages to do PL too.
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I want a sleipnir
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>arty thrasher with Destroyer V
Holy shit, is this the best alpha platform in its class?
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>>123353420
might check how arty svipul compares, if you are considering "class" to be all destroyer-sized ships
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Been gone for a little over half a year. Used to do lowsec solo pvp in frigs/dessies/cruisers. 90mil combat oriented SP.

Has anything big changed?
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>>123353559
I tried arty svipul. It's not so convincing because it's too fast for itself and kills its own tracking.
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>>123355458
they removed skynet
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>>123355617
>orbiting
>arty svipul
u wot m8
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>>123355458
no. garmurs worms orthruses gilas svipuls still ruining the game.
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>>123355764
Aight, thanks. Guess I'll start putting SP to mining for a change then.
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>>123355803
a bunch of things are about to happen though, like this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=456713
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>>123282924
Gevlon Goblin here.

Stunt Flores told me about this game, and how the Goons were already ruining it.

I am starting a new program where players can earn ISK by killing Goons in Albion Online. This will be similar to my scheme in EVE.

PM me in EVE Online, as I am not ready to reveal my Albion Online in game name yet!
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>>123355884
thanks for reminding me this autist exists, I need a good laugh
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>>123355852
>chain multiple jumps in a row using several Command Destroyers.
Cool. I don't really know what I wanna do this time around though.
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>>123355992
fuck, what was that site, I forgot to bookmark it
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>>123355884
Sent ;)
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>for every goon you kill, we give you 50 million isk
shit, sign me the fuck up
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>>123356253
nice meme
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>>123355992
>130 terribles
Why does everyone hate you?
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>>123358590
Thanks
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>>123358706
Because I shot all the fucking ventures in lowsec and then bought my sec back up and baited in high sec.

Also pic related. From March this year iirc.
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>made it to jita from null with 3b relic loot
cool
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>still no autocannon nerf
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>still no t3d nerf
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I thought I only need minnie destroyers V and interdictors to fly a Sabre.

>27 days
>>
>still no mjfg nerf
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>still no marauder buff
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>>123362259
>we're too lazy to balance them, so we'll just let them ruin the game for a year, then we'll make a focus group
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>Sabre
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>>123339363
Lol someone's been dunked by BL
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Cane or Fleet cane for pve?
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>>123367083
depends on your wallet
>>
Why no dominix skin that makes it look like the pre-trinity space potato?
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>>123356190
https://spreadsheetsin.space/year-in-review/#

but I don't think it works anymore.
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>look at LS alliance
>only see smartbombing on the KB
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>>123369939
who
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>broadened my horizons to >amarr ships

Sentinel seems pretty dank.
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>>123374151
I'll give you a hint, every non-laser amarr ship is actually good, any laser ship is shit
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>>123352048
>meme name corps
>except its ironic, because the content isn't meme-tier at all

you need to git-gud, comparing test to BL is like trying to compare a civic to a beemer
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>>123375089
>any laser ship is shit
But the Confessor is great.
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>>123375815
theres the diamond in the rough yes but generally they're shit

for example, I like the omen navy issue because of the speed, but hate the regular omen because its shit. I like the confessor too.

but thats pretty much it
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>>123375959
>because its shit

why do you think it's shit? it sounds like you're only interested in meme ships
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>>123376136
no because the omen has only 3 mids, its really slow and it has anemic fitting. For a kite ship this thing has awful capacitor problems that force you to run a cap booster with no chance at NOT running a cap booster. the lack of mids ruins its ability to diversify fits so anything you do with it is pretty predictable.
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>>123375305
>replying to someone who actually thinks 'toxic' is a thing
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>>123376265
>For a kite ship this thing has awful capacitor problems
I once tried a kite regular omen. I ran out of cap, even with a cap booster, against a fucking procurer. It was the most shameful moment of my EVE career.
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>>123376265
>only 3 mids

so?

>really slow

now you're just making shit up

>a kite ship

but it's not a kite ship

>predictable

but you said you like the navy omen, and I'm pretty sure you run the same trash meme fit everyone else runs
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>>123376450
>>only 3 mids
>
>so?
I just listed the reasons why 3 mids is bad, it limits your fitting diversity which means your fits are extremely predictable. Since you have bad capacitor problems you're always forced to run 3 things, prop, point, and cap booster, you can't run anything else like a prop, point, and web, because you'll run out of capacitor because it can't sustain itself.

>slow
>you're just making shit up
its an ARMOR, AMARR "kite" ship, its slow by default, the stabber and caracal are faster.

>its not a kite ship
if its not a kite ship then its a brawling ship and the maller does that better because the maller has more tank and more mid slots for brawling.

The navy omen's absolute raw speed and the optimal range bonus makes it an incredible kite ship boasting speeds upwards of 4000m/s overheated which is unheard of for most T1 cruisers

>I'm sure you run trash meme fits like everyone else does
with only 3 mids on the shit omen you can't do anything else
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>>123375089
Confessor, harbinger, navy omen are all p cool.
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>>123376935
the harbinger is shit in the face of the brutix which is another reason I don't use the harbinger at all purely because the brutix exists
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>>123376802
>stabber

the stabber is a special pile of shit that goes fast but can't do anything. it can't tank and it can't do damage

>caracal

I'm almost certain the caracal is slower. even if it's not, slower than a caracal doesn't mean slow all of a sudden
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>>123377143
>>the stabber is a special pile of shit that goes fast but can't do anything. it can't tank and it can't do damage
see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwn8-LFgG6U

>caracal is slower
the caracal kites better is the point purely because it has the ability to project and the mid slots to do it
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>>123377259
no, the point is you're wrong - the omen isn't slow.

and every kill with a stabber is just idiots doing dumb shit

of course the caracal kites better, it uses rapid cancer. I never said otherwise
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>>123360491
>autocannon nerf
>when drones and missiles are current meta
>>123361867
>wanting to fly a sabre
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>takes 50 years to make missile ewar
>drone ewar never
thanks CCP please make more skins and jeans
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>>123377725
>wanting ewar for all types
>wanting everything to be the same
>hating fun
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>still no defender missile nerf
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>>123377032
It's still an entirely okay spsceship, it's new damage projection bonus is also pretty legit because muh scorch.

It's not like the Maller or Abaddon that are basically just a joke at this point.
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>>123377998
Should I train Defender Missiles to V?
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/upwell-consortium-announces-development-of-citadel-line-of-stations-for-capsuleer-market/

>Astrahus
>Fortizar
>KEEPSTAR
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>>123378170
literally nothing wrong with maller or abaddon, except they don't fit with your coward nano shit you want to fly
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>>123378262
Yes.
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>>123377435
>no that video doesn't matter because it disagrees with me because I think the pilots were shitters not the stabber pilot was good enough to take an underused ship and bring it to light

>the omen isn't slow
its fucking slow for a kiter, its shit for all the reasons I mentioned, you can't just cover your ears and say "NO I DON'T WANT TO LISTEN" and call other people wrong, the omen is shit. Its lack luster speed makes it garbage, its lack of mid slots makes its fits predictable and garbage. it certainly is a kiter, oh but you think it isn't a kiter when it has no brawling attributes what so ever and can't brawl
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>>123378391
>literally nothing wrong with the abaddon
>the LEAST used battleship in the game, might be the least used ship of all other ships.
>shit fitting, can't fit a full rack of tachyons
>shit capacitor, the guns cap it out on JUST THE GUNS
>the damage projection is shit.
the megathron is better because the megathron is faster, puts out more DPS and doesn't cap itself out on its guns.
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>>123379959
it's 2km/s base. if that's not good enough for you you should go back to your babby faction ships, it's very fast. your reasons are shit. it has no brawling or kiting 'attributes' it's just a fast cruiser with lasers, you can do whatever with it - proper setups, trashy pretend-meme-oni setups, whatever you like

>>123380097
yeah because who cares about tanking right. if you're flying your shitty megathron without a cap booster you're going to die in a fire btw
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>>123380486
>it's 2km/s base.
thats slow as fuck for a cruiser, have fun trying to compete with those T3D's

>if thats not good enough
its not, its slow as fuck balls
>your reasons are shit
and thats all you've said, you can't prove any of my points wrong I am fucking objectively right.

>it has no brawling or kiting 'attributes' it's just a fast cruiser with lasers, you can do whatever with it - proper setups,
you're just making shit up because you have no argument. the omen's fittings are extremely predictable as I said because you're forced to run the cap booster, which means you have 2 mid slots. Anemic fitting prevents actual buffer fits and lack of mids prevents you from using other utilities like defensive webifiers or any other mid slot option for that matter. The omen's only role is kiting, it has zero ability to brawl in any case, its kiting role is shit and it gets out kited by other ships.

>meme fits
you keep using this shit buzzword because you think "what ever works" is a meme fit

>>123380486
>yeah because who cares about tanking right.
like it fucking matters, the abaddon is so fucking slow its literally the punisher of the battleships that no one uses.

>cap booster
I don't need a cap booster just to run my guns, I need a cap booster to use my MWD meanwhile the abaddon's shit cap and excessively capacitor heavy guns forces it to eat cap more than any other battleship.

No one uses the abaddon because its shit for so many numerous reasons one of which is that there are other superior battleships like the dominix, typhoon, armageddon, megathron, tempest, etc.
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>>123380917
if 2km/s is slow, you must have some real bad shit to say about vexors moas and mallers. do you think 2km/s is battleship speed or something? you must only fly stabbers or be a complete retard or something

>T3Ds

oh no they're very slightly faster whatever will I do

>defensive webifiers
>defensive

just such a plebby kitefag it's unreal

>abaddon
>slow

who the fuck cares

and megathron's cap is actually pretty garbage since they put a rof bonus on it

>MWD

yeah that thing you need to use all the time because norange
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>>123381278
>vexors moas and mallers
those are brawling ships.

>T3D's
>oh they're very slightly faster
are you stupid? do you even play this game? a svipul can easily pull 3k+

>defensive web
>plebby kitefag

a defensive webifier allows you to shed tackle that is tackling you, by using a webifier you isolate the target and get hits on him, without the webifier, if a ship is orbitting you, you'll never hit him and you'll rely on your drones just to get hits and you'll die so easily.

See this megathron? 1k+ dps just on guns 830 with Null

oh and its cap stable with the cap booster and has 150 extra cargo space for more cap boosters than the abaddon can hold. AND it goes 1k cold

You don't fucking play this game, you sound like some shitter in goons who presses F1 and thinks he's good
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>>123381806
then a similarly fit abaddon, worse DPS, slow as FUCK,

oh but some retarded babby thinks the worst battleship in the game, the least used battleship, hell probably one of the LEAST used ships in the game overall, thinks the abaddon is "totally fine" and good despite getting shit on by literally everything under the sun
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>>123381806
>>123382012
>abaddon uses over 20gj/s more than the megathron
>the megathron's cap is pretty shit too with the RoF bonus!
fucking hilarious
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>>123381806
>easily

in speed mode sure, I don't give a fuck

and I know what a defensive web is m8. you're telling me that the omen is only a kiting ship because it can't fit any midslot mods, and then you go on to tell me how important defensive webs are for kiting.

>>123382012
wow a longer range ship does less dps that's fascinating anon tell me more

and rokh is clearly the worst battleship in the game, not abaddon

yes, everything shits on the abaddon, that's because those things are overpowered. I'm not a power creep shitter. the only battleships that are really usable at the moment are pirate battleships because they're relatively pretty cheap, and because T3Cs haven't been fixed, logis haven't been fixed, warp speed happened, people want to fit fleets through wormholes, pirate ships got way overbuffed, etc. it's not just as simple as hurdurr buff abaddon it's not used enough muh metrics.
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http://www.twitch.tv ccp

Concept art stream is on now, if you're interested. Might be worth watching, might not be.
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>>123382723
just tell us if they say anything cool about redesigns happening
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>>123382532
>in speed mode sure, I don't give a fuck
of course you don't because the T3D's adaptability has nothing to do with its ability to project and run circles around shit right guys?

>and I know what a defensive web is m8
and the fact that you laugh at its viability proves you don't know what and how important it is.

>wow longer range ship
doesn't really matter when both of them are brawling and the fact that the megathron is over 40% faster makes it worlds more usable than a ship that can't even move.

>rokh is clearly the worst battleship
rokh has tons of abilities, due to the optimal range bonus, heavy sniper rokhs are amazing at clobbering shit from over 200km away should you fit it that way. While not nearly as popular as other battleships its far better than a ship that can't move and can't project any of its DPS. The rokh's primary advantage comes from that amazing ability to project over hundreds of kilometers effortlessly regardless of railguns shit tracking.

>everything shits on one underpowered ship, therefore everything is OP
wow nice deductive reasoning there, like god damn you get a degree at the Federation Navy School of Engineering Excuses?

>I'm not a power creep shitter
oh so you're just a shitter, little would someone as retarded as you know, battleships haven't been touched since ship tiercide years ago. Only recently did the tempest get touched and that was a pretty amazing battleship on its own due to its amazing speed and 5 mids.

>the only usable battleships are pirate battleships

no the actual battleships that are most actively used are the dominix and the armageddon.
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>>123383161
>wow nice deductive reasoning there, like god damn you get a degree at the Federation Navy School of Engineering Excuses?
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>>123383161
T3D adaptability is also a limitation. they cannot tank while going fast. it's much more noticeable with a balanced one like a hecate, but it's still a thing on a svipul. I'm more concerned about svipuls in a frigate than in a cruiser, I fly brawling cruisers, they shit on svipuls.

I fit webs all the time, best module in the game

it's extremely retarded to think everything will be within 10km just because you use the word 'brawl'

sniper rokhs are shit

the ships that get used a lot are the ones CCP breaks. so many T1 hulls just never get used because of it. I'm not a newfag, I remember when people actually flew battleship fleets and had big brawls with them. abaddons were pretty popular in them because people do give a fuck about tanking, it's an actual thing in fights that you use to not die. also laser range.

>tempest
>amazing speed

I don't know how to even talk to you. 2km/s cruisers are slow, 1.1km/s tempest is fast, what the fuck
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>>123384005
>I don't know how to even talk to you. 2km/s cruisers are slow, 1.1km/s tempest is fast, what the fuck
two different ship classes you idiot, a tempest can do 2k overheated, its amazing for its speed on that platform. and the tempest puts out more DPS than the abaddon

god damn its like you're comparing speed on a truck and a car but forget that its a fucking truck and a fucking car.

god damn get over yourself
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>>123384784
I know they're different classes gaylord

>overheated

retards always bring this up. yeah, if you do +50% then the number is way higher

tempest is only about the same speed as the actual attack battleships, raven apocalypse typhoon and megathron. what I'm getting at is I just find it interesting you're very pro-tempest and think it's fast and all even though it's not, and at the same time think 2km/s attack cruisers are slow. you're dumb or something idk
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>>123385209
>and at the same time think 2km/s attack cruisers are slow.
because attack cruisers rely solely on that speed as part of their tank, battleships have loads of tank and their relative size and potential output allows them to be more lenient in the speed factor

so yes a truck doing 120 miles an hour is fast but a race car doing 120 miles an hour isn't really that fast at all
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>>123386467
>rely solely on speed as part of their tank

stabber does, the others can fit a proper normal tank, and seem to just get the speed for 'free'. like a thorax compared to a rupture. the rupture is slow as shit, the thorax is not. the rupture gets like +5% hitpoints in exchange for being a terrible slow piece of shit.
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>>123375305
I never said you were as incompetent as TEST. But BL is cut from the same cloth.
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>>123375305
Dixon Cox was LITERALLY TEST corp.
>>
Comfy recliner, watching CCP Jorg drawing spaceships, hot beverage on the end table.
Things are good.
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>>123389375
>no exhumer mining on other monitor
you're not maximum comfy yet senpai
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>>123389763
Daopa pls. I'm not going to watch your stream.
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>not flying a raven
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>tackle battleship
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How come one of the most used things in the game, for actually finding other ships and other things in space around you, is incredibly clunky and painful to use ? (Hint - Talking about D-scan here)
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>>123391313
what improvements would you suggest

pls don't just say make it really easy and do everything automatically
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>>123391313
>dscan
>clunky

how bad
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>>123391313
it works fine. It's very versatile and fluid, if they dumb it down to presets or something like that then it'll be shit.
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>>123391473
I dont know, maybe implementing some kind of repeating scan instead of having to mash "SCAN" every second, would be a good start
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>>123393153
Don't be such a lazy cunt
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>>123393153
>Not wanting to multitask
Might as well enable auto-combat eh
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>>123393153
that would use a lot of server resources since everyone would passively enable it
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>>123393153
that's the best part of being in a wormhole system though.
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>>123393039
>It's very versatile and fluid

I thought it was the opposite.
Making it more user friendly doesnt mean dumbing it down.
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>>123393430
Yes it does
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>>123393430
Yes it does, now fuck off.
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>>123282924
>>Nov 19: Dropbears are all out of All-Out's hole
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>>123393430
Important question, are you new?
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>>123393978
Yeah all out evicted DB
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>skin discounts
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>15% off PLEX
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any new info about the rmt scheme
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>>123377259
>chessur
fag ultra
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>call for a TFI
>member brings TFI
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When will production get a buff? T1/T2 items are very crappy compared to meta levels of item drops.
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>>123399340
Are there any discounts for resubs?
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>>123408554
what
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>>123355617
What is sharpshooter mode
>>
>>123410906
The svipul has three switchable modes that provide different skill bonuses
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>>123369365
Godammit, that needs to work again
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>>123411190
what is jeopardy?
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>>123411646
Oh wasn't paying attention
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>>123411190
...I was being snaky and telling that anon that if his having tracking issues in an arty svipul, his doing it wrong,
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>>123412341
Son of a bitch, my phone sucks. Snarky, he's, etc
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>>123410320
They do those randomly, log in to account management and see.

>>123408554
...What? Modules are being rebalanced slowly, and T2 is almost always at least equal to meta 4. Even when it's not, T2 is cheaper.
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is svipul a viable ratting ship?
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>>123414538
depends on what rats you're shootin, nullsec rats it might have a hard time dpsing but everything else should be fine
it's good in c1's and even c2's depending on the bonuses
>>
What the fuck is black friday?
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>>123419547
the day after thanks giving the clappers have massive sales.
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>>123419547
its when america lets all the niggers run free for 1 day
>>
is someone ddos'n CCP? the server has been pretty shit lately
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>>123419870
goons
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hey, what's happening at /r/eve ? half of the threads are obvious trolls but the comments are all "I KNEW IT ALL ALONG!!"
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>mfw haven't played EVE in months
>decide to resub over Christmas
>check out eve related sites to see what's changed
>mittens is a sociopath!!!
wew indeed
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>>123424719
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>>123427180
jesus how can he have the hots for that hambeast
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>>123427317
You want real keks go read the goons SA forum.
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>>123424719
anti-coolaid after that "shake it off" awful feature on TMC
its pretty hilarious watching from a neutral third party standpoint
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>>123427180
>believing anyone would touch that shit
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>>123427914
He also said Mittens and his wife have an open relationship and a joint account on fetlife.
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Can anyone post a fit for machariel
to do lvl4 mission blitzing?

Please.
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>>123429961
Two cov op cloaks.
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>>123427180
Reddit falling for obvious troll ? What a time to be alive!
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>>123429961
fill the highs with autocannons
mids with shield tank, but also AB.
lows is all gyros/tracking enhancers.
rigs are : CCC II until you are cap stable more or less, then projectile damage rigs.
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POLARIZED BLASTER ROKH
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>Machariel
>Not Marauder

Whew lads.
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>>123429961
stupid 4chan spam shit
even reddit can link fits without having to trick this shit with spoilers
http://pastebin.com/5fSphxZH
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>>123432269
mach is good enough for lowsp fags
its crazy how good it is for the low SP required to fly decently when compared to a Vargur or the other meme marauders
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On uniwiki (http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Shield_tanking#Shield_Tank_Modules)
it is said that shield boost amount on Ancillary Shield Booster does not depend on charge size.

Can anyone confirm/refute this?

Uniwiki is not particularly famous for fast and accurate updates....
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>>123433621
True.
That's why you want to use the smallest size of cap boosters the shield ancillary can fit.
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>>123433621
its true

you'll get the same rep amount whether you use a larger cap booster or a smaller one

its the reason why people use small ones every single time

So when running a Medium ancil shield booster, make sure you fill it with navy cap charge 50's because its the smallest charge and you can get 9 charges into one
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>>123433894
>>123433909

thank you guys
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Iceland pls
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>>123433894
>>123433621
More info; shield ancillary booster boosts the same amount of shield with or without cap booster loaded, the difference is with a cap booster loaded you won't use any cap, and the shield ancillary booster is very cap hungry so its generally very bad to use without boosters loaded.

The armor ancillary uses nanite, without nanite loaded it will use the same amount of cap as the regular armor repairers of its same size and will repair a little less than the meta 0.
What you get from having the nanite loaded is somewhere around 2x the repair amount the T2 repairer does, but it will still use the same cap.
This allows you to keep using the armor ancillary even after you are out of nanites and why you should turn the auto reload off, while with the shield booster you never really want to use it or your cap will get fucked even with a single use without boosters loaded.

When it comes to cap recharges the size of the cap boosters does matter, you generally want bigger boosters for the maximum amount of cap in the least amount of time, few exceptions exist, for example when fighting bigger ships than yours that will be able to neut you dry in a single cycle, by having more smaller charges you will be able to time your cap recharges with his neuting cycles and keep your hardeners/reps cycling.
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/50334875/
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>>123436159
What a waste of isk. Fucking carebear faggots.
>>
this mittens drama is so fucking entertaining
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>>123439118
I really hope no super big coalition forms up after the Emporium dies
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>>123439335

it'll probably take a while with the power vacuum but eventually there will be, probably when russians see their opportunity and make a move on someone

i really don't see how mittens is going to get out of this one though, unless ccp really shits the bed which is a huge liklihood anymore
>>
Why do dickheads keep calling them "The Imperium"? what a load of shit.
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>>123439927
It's like calling CODE the savior of high sec
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>>123439927
well, it's a useful marker to indicate "the goons after things jumped the shark" (imperium) or "the goons when things were running kind of smoothly" (cfc)

or pre/post fozziesov, take your pick

their M.O. has changed quite a lot between the two
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>>123439927

they are both cancer but at least cfc was entertaining cancer
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heh
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>moa
>>
>commissar order issued against all –BAT- supers
>intel cap movements of -BAT-

-BAT- EXODUS TO MOA WHEN
I NEED THIS
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>>123444905
You mean to OSS.
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>>123444905
-BAT- is too competent to exodus to MOA or to fall for obvious trolls.
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>>123431838
>negating ship bonus
>not just a max hull buffer polarized megathron
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>>123444905
>planting the seeds of dissent with reddit trollposts
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>>123444905
whats a commissar order
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>>123377998
How do they work by the way? I need 1 defender missile launcher per 1 enemy launcher or what?
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>>123451379
they dont
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>>123436159
EleGiggle
>>
is FW fun?
I'm considering lowsec stuff and maybe I havent thought about FW before
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>>123452674
Real fun. You get ISK for PvPing. I'd be playing it right now if I didn't have a corp.
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>>123453267
what are some good FW groups? or large ones?
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>>123453367
Losematar... I mean winmatar
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>wh/null relics

tfw you come back to your home chain and you're locked out in the cold with 40 russians in local
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>>123436159
>I was only pretending to be retarded.
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>>123453634
Wait, what the fuck happened to winmatar? It only has one member.
>>
Can you give me some good fits for gallente T1 frigates or comet?
>>
>>123453860
я гpязный oвцeeб Moжнo я тyт пoхaнчy?
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>>123454202
Good evening my Russian friend. Could you translate this for me please?

Some angry Russian sent me this after I killed him in low.
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>>123454197
>Comet
Just fly the tristan. MWD, Drone amplfiers, Neut, hull tank.
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>>123454393
How the hell am I supposed to MWD inside enemy scram range?
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>>123454740
>Inside scram range
You're doing it wrong.
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>>123454347
"Hung up, crud
Hung up, bitch, experienced fighters will come for you soon"
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>>123454884
Thanks a lot pal. Your help is much appreciated.

I'll shoot all of his so called experienced fighters down
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>>123454852
Neut reaches out to 6km, scram reaches out to ~20.
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>>123455034
>scram 20k
That's if their ship has bonuses.
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>>123455159
Even if it hadn't (but seriously who flies unbonused in FW lowsecs these days?) it reaches to ~11 overheated.
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>>123455323
>FW lowsec
You didn't mention that. Use AB for FW.
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>>123436159
reminder that if you feel the need to get rid of all your assets in order to ensure you don't come back to the game, donating to Mordu's Angels is a much worthier use of your money than suiciding in a trade hub.

goon must be remove.
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>>123455562
One of the modus angel fcs has my main set blue, and I can see his fleets.

I got no idea why and its been like this for a year and a half
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>>123455562
>cant pilot capitals without permission
kuk korp
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>>123454852
>kitefagging

biomass irl
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>>123456056
>wanting to lose ships
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>>123453860
>noot noots corpse
;__;
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>>123455372
How it is better? With the ~3s lock time and 10s of invulnerability after warp-in almost every kiting bastard would be far out of my scram range.
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>mittani on full damage control mode
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>>123459336
its delicious
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>>123459336
>>123459718
Wats going on?
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>>123459947
>goon RMT stuff gets exposed
>mittens retardation exposed
>"boss, what do we do?"
>"troll reddit at maximum firepower! if we look like we are being retarded ironically, they wont think we are really retarded. then we'll just claim it was all a big troll"
>"brilliant plan, boss"
>"also, dont forget to yell "grr gons" so they know they are silly for not sucking our dick"
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>>123460115
please keep us updated, I don't want to have to read spergy goon threads on reddit or wherever
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>>123460115
Another quality moa post.
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>>123462478
Hi RMTSwarm
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>>123462478
Lmao even here they're posting DC
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>>123462478
>make fun of moa >>123455967
>few posts later make fun of goons too because they are shit
>buttfrustration
>>
>dead

whats better LS content
>piracy
>FW

I cant really decide
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>>123466479
it's the same thing. being a pirate in FW space is the ideal arrangement because you aren't cutting yourself off from half the targets.
>>
>>123466479

Pretty much the same since they can both pick on each other. It depends mostly on whether you have buddies or not, since both of them suck solo.
>>
>>123466529
>>123466553
I'm looking for a larger corp thats laid-back
also not anal about voicecoms maybe

just cant make up my mind
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>>123466681
don't join tishu
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>>123467029
why?
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>>123467169
they're shitty memefags
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>>123467248
anyone else who is cool?
>>
Is it just me or is Gorgon really bad? I mean I knew russiand were bad but 5 people from my corp popped at least 4 moon mining POSes over the last few days. Most of them we put up our own in their place. Fuck they even dropped caps on us and got their shit pushed in. Is this what it's like to chew 5 gum?
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>>123467472
shadow cartel best pirate blob
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>>123467474
SLYCE?

anyway, russians arent good usually

>>123467732
I dont think I'm elite enough for them
maybe in the future
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>>123462972
>>123462478
>see goons get btfo
>slight chuckle
>look at goon taxrate
>15%
>laugh harder
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>>123469684
>15%
Lmao, are you shitting me?
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>>123469775
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/corporations

check em
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>Corporations [400]
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What skills should I train if I want to participate in FW?
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muh dick
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>>123470975
frigates, cruisers
fitting skills
small, medium weapons
t2 armor and shield tanking
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>/v/ bros
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>>123470975
Fitting skills
T2 weapons of your choice.
Frigates, destroyers, cruisers
Stealth bombers and torpedoes

You won't have to go bigger than cruisers most of the time. Most important part is to find a corp you like! Solo FW and solo PvP in general is cancer.
>>
I'm trying to listen to this state of the goonion thing, I don't think I can make it all the way through, it's so bad
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Mite b cool.
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>>123471981
>unveil remote rep changes

surely they're just the same shit as the neut changes? but yeah should be interesting

I predict the logi frigates will be maximum cancer like cruiser logi, or useless trash like t1 frigs. also predicting half of them will be just worse than the other half, like all the logis in game atm.
>>
Is this fit OK?
[Tristan, neut]

Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Type-D Restrained Capacitor Flux Coil

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Small Transverse Bulkhead II
Small Transverse Bulkhead II
Small Transverse Bulkhead II

I think its quite costly, a comet is only about 5 mil more but probably performs better.
>>123471618
Which corp would want me to join lol? And if solo is so bad maybe I should bring another window? Which ship would be good as a sidekick?
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>>123472110
no, use a normal turret + nos fit, use t1 rigs
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>>123472110
Swap the flux coil for something else and use T1 rigs.
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>>123472203
Rails or blasters? Or maybe autocannons/artillery?
>>123472315
Without it my cap lasts around 24s.
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>>123472881
>rails or blasters

either is fine
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>>123472109
its already on reddit
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>>123473097
wait, t1 resists? these actually sound sort of balanced. and the gallente one isn't just a shit version of the amarr one

looking forward to any kind of justification ccp can offer for not fixing logi cruisers after like 8 years of broken game
>>
Battleship logi when
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>>123473521

What would be the point when there's already logi that use large reps
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>>123473751
part of fixing logi would probably be medium reps for medium ships
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>>123472946
They're very CPU hungry, I can't fit the best ones even if I train perfect fitting skills. So maybe fit autocanons?

[Tristan, nos]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I

Hobgoblin II x5

Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-601
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>>123473925
>Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
>Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

these are very expensive. use j5b scram and x5 webifier, best modules in the game.

and try 75mm rails or electron blasters or something idk, they're easy to fit
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>>123473097
>no nos/neut bonus on the Deacon
The Koreans lied to me.
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>>123474087
[Tristan, nos cheap]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

75mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I

Hobgoblin II x5
I am able to fit only 75mm rails, but the damage on them is laughable. I've also heard that hobgoblins is trash in PVP, is that so?
And which targets can this thing engage?
>>
>>123473521
What is the Nestor
>>
>>123474867
le mobile depot memeface
>>
>>123474867
Shit killed by its pricetag and next year killed completely by FAXs.
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>>123474831
the damage on 75 rails is fine. remember to use longer range ammo for longer range, antimatter on them is only like 4.5km

hobgoblins are not trash for pvp, they're fine

this thing can engage all t1 frigates. it will die to basically all kiting ships. it can kill some bad destroyers like ac thrashers sometimes if you stay at 10km or further and they're not on the ball with barrage. I'd maybe take on an enyo, knowing that I'll probably have to run away. any kind of brawling cruiser without neuts/lots of drones/rapid cancer launchers/double webs + ab, you can take on like with most ab brawler frigs.
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>>123475421
>pricetag
le poorman face
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>>123475428
What about a second window sidekick for it?
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>>123477005
idk anything, maybe a mwd brawler to cover you against kiteshitters. maybe you'd prefer to be a kiteshitter, I don't know.
>>
>>123477123
What about EWAR/logi?
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>>123477221
a crucifier or maulus is nice ewar and can do damage as well. logistics is not good in a gang of 2 people.
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>>123477368
Or maybe a second tristan and give em 5 ecm drones? What is the chances to get a jam on a frigate with 10 light ecm drones?
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>>123478246
idk. that's fucking gay though, just use a normal fit. generally you do not want to use ecm drones on drone ships.
>>
>remapped two weeks ago away from per/wil
>T2 frigs will soon be released
>have to train them inefficiently now
I didn't have anything left to train and now I hate myself
>>
Scalpel>Kirin
Thalia>Deacon

Prove me wrong
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>>123479372
I know that feelio.
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>>123479759
can't wait to kill idiots in scrub cap recharge fits
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>>123479759
Kirin has the coolest name.
>>
>>123479372
don't do it anon
don't give in
train those science and fitting skills up man
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>>123479948
I have perfect fitting skills
I am training E-war, drug, and compensation skills
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>>123386927
not even a good one at that
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>mfw updating orders, monitoring eog, and smelling thanksgiving dinner cooking while watching the purina dog show on tv
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>>123424719
Haha le up votes to derty Dan the masterful poster cause so much drama!!
>>
should i start reading FHC?
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>>123481062
no it's shit and dead
>>
>>123481062
Should I cut my dick off and call myself a girl
>>
implying girls can't have dicks
>>
>>123481229
fuck off Bruce
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>>123474831
do a kitey shield fit instead

this is superior to brawl fits purely because its faster and uses shield instead of slow armor
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>>123480938
You sure are having a hell of a dog thanksgiving
>>
>>123481804
please stop triggering me with your bullshit
>>
>>123481997
>but I want to brawl!
>good luck catching anything then
>grr kitey bullshit
>yea well thats what the meta revolves around, its easier to avoid damage at range than to actually tank it.

this is why shields are so much more popular today, using things like trimarks is shooting yourself in the foot for kiting
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>>123482172
please fuck off. nobody posted any fits with plates or trimarks, and hull tanking has no penalties

shield tanking is extremely unpopular on lowsec frigates
>>
Any images of the logi frigs?
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>>123482312
>shield tanking is extremely unpopular on lowsec frigates
are you dumb?
>>
>>123482469
no, you are
>>
>>123471981
>that avatar edit

lel
>>
>>123472109
>also predicting half of them will be just worse than the other half, like all the logis in game atm.
only bads cant find a use for all the logistics
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>>123482760
>find a use

yeah the use for an oneiros is if you've got a load of idiots who can't chain (nullsec)
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>>123472110
>Which corp would want me to join lol?
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>>123482830
the onieros has more midslots and is used because its faster and allows for more ECCM and sensor boosters
>>
>>123482830
you can tripod it with 3/3 guards in small gang, and cast the guardians
>>
>>123483101
it's shit, you can do those things remotely, it's probably not faster, and it has a worse sig and completely shuts down if you neut it
>>
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the fuck
>>
just hide and report him
>>
CCP stream is up
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>>123482885
fuck off faggots no one can stop the meme empire of /gsg/
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>/gsg/
>>
>>123483403
>>123483430
>>123483482
t. rob
>>
>>123483363
>>123483517
>>123483676
>>123483725
>>123483871
>>123483892
t. bobo
>>
>>123483175
>you can do those remotely
no one is going to bring other oniernos's to worry about setting up a sebo chain, it'd make more sense to boost yourself

it is faster

they usually run solo with tons of cap flux's or cap relays or you do a medium cap booster which is more than enough to keep it up.

the guardian's disadvantage is it only has 2 mids and can either have ECCM or Sensor boosting and not both
>>
>prussians
>>
>>123484249
>cap recharge mods

lmao

>sebo chain

lmao
>>
>>123484529
>hurr I've never done onieros's before
>oh fuck I'm damped, MUH CAP CHAIN
>oh fuck I'm jammed, MUH CAP CHAIN
>>
>>123484648
I have done oneiroses before. I've not done them in years though because they're trash. the correct way to do things is remote eccm/sebo from non-logis to logis. guardian is immune to everything, oneiros is shut down by 2 medium neuts.
>>
All logis have their advantage in certain situations and if you disagree you are a fucktard
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>>123485530
>basilisk
>>
>>123486075
100mn shield logi
>>
About to buy 6months sub time, should I do it? I have all my skills planned out for those 6 months already.
>>
CCP are shit at dueling/pvp
>>
>>123486408
go for it fag, if you have the cash to blow and eve is your hobby then it's worth
>>
>>123486453
they are shit at all
>>
>>123481804
Where is the guns on your fit m8?
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>guns
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>missiles
>>
So what's the deal with blueprints? I got a bunch from relic sites, including a Blood Medium Pulse Laser Battery blueprint, and want to sell 'em for dank isk. They don't seen to be sold on the market though. Do I just sell these via contract or what?
>>
so fozzie said something about links, said they're going to be AOE buffs, and that it'll happen in a few months

only other thing he said that was interesting and that won't be in the balance threads is that they probably won't be giving out geckos
>>
Would someone kindly explain what Eve: Valkyrie is
>>
>>123489941
Yes
>>
>>123489941
>tfw more than 500 blueprints from just exploring

good luck trying to sell them anon.
>>
>>123490046
VR game
>>
>>123490198
What kind of VR game, though.
>>
>>123490094
>>123490080
Time to write a contract sale bot and sit it in Jita or something.
Is there any way to get price ranges for these things?
>>
>>123490295
a shitty one, its made by CCP after all
>>
>>123490431
i found the star shillizen
>>
>>123490295
I don't know the details. I played it a bit at an eve event. was oculus rift with a controller, but I'm not sure if you need the oculus rift. you fly around in a fighter shooting shit. there was a multiplayer bit and a single player bit. I hope the single player is compelling, so it's not a multiplayer-only thing with no players that ends up being dead immediately.
I thought it was pretty neat, but I don't know much about these kinds of games. there's probably some videos you can search. last I heard, they can't release until oculus rift is released, which is taking forever.
>>
>>123490021
The aoe thing makes a lot of sense after the huge grids. The big thing here is that OGB removal is happening at all, I'd expect it by the citadel patch at the latest
>>
>>123490536
Thank you kindly.
>>
>>123490682
well I'd really hope they aren't grid-huge, but something sensible like 20km aoe, and obviously with big nerfs to the bonuses themselves.
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>>123490838
bonuses amount is fine if its just 20km
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>>123490295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ4gpjwJa08
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>>123490946
it's really not, link bonuses are fucking stupid and break the game all the time

I'd also add in more ways to fuck with them, like if you're running links, you can't receive rr. 20km radius is a huge improvement over what we have now, but you'd still have unbreakable tank blobs with stupidly bonused tackle ranges and shit and it would still just be really fucking gay.
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>>123491216
I think your poor experiences with them makes you salty about it and you want to overnerf it

20km is tiny, fleets move, boosts can be neuted out

adapt.
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>>123490838
>>123490838
grids will be larger
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>>123490682
>The big thing here is that OGB removal is happening at all, this, fucking christ its amazing. legacy code is slowly being rewritten
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>>123491490
sorry, did not mean to greentext my reply
fuck, time for bed
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>>123491620
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>>123490838
Yeah 20-50 would be fine imo. What I mean is if they affect the whole grid it is effectively the same as now when you have 7800kmm default grids
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>>123485252
>guardian is immune to everything
lol fuck no it isn't, you can't be immune to damps AND ECM at the same time like you can onieros

>onieros is shut down by 2 medium neuts
no its not, you use a cap booster
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>>123491947
Use a tripod dingus

2 guards and an oni

guards swap cap and one feeds a geddon while one feeds the oni, the oni casts both

ez
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>>123492139
>using TWO cap transfers
thats dumb you should only fly guardians with Logi 5 using one single cap transfer for max reps

this is a gimp shit set up from years ago, get with the times nigger
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>>123492297
congratulations you are retarded

3/3 guardians, two between guards to provide neut immunity, can be broken down after neuts are off field to feed fleet

so you could support 3 bhalls and the oni with this
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>>123492556
nobody runs this anymore its not 2012
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>>123492297
>posting WH get ups
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>>123492642
its better than scaling with just guards, because of the xbox huge sensor str. You just have to scale in groups of 3

its also not for kspace blobs

also you can swap the oni for a nestor if you need refits and it still casts
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>>123492856
>its also not for kspace blobs
then this is irrelevant to the rest of all PVP in kspace which is where 95% of the other PVP happens
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>>123493012
yeah just scale up with guards because you only needs a single braincell to do that
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>>123493079
then I have no reason to run Onieros' if I'm just using guardians, you pick one or the other stupid
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>>123493182
you have a reason to in small gang
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>all this bullshit

you want dual cap transfer guardians and you want to remote boost them. it still takes up like a million neuts to affect them. oneiros is shit, no point using it ever.
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>>123493330
tripple + oni

Relying on dps ships to cast your logi is retarded
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>>123493451
it's extremely not retarded. armour brawlers have loads of mids, this is one of the reasons you use them.
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>>123493562
its retarded
>>
So /eog/, what's the most gimmicky fit you've used with some amount of success?
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>>123493717
there's nothing wrong with it at all, I have no idea where you're even getting this from.
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>>123493825
no point no tank barghiest
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>>123493826
retarded
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>>123494003
you are
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>>123494079
no you
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>>123491490
>it's amazing
>fixing your game after 8 years
shill pls
>>
>>123493243
>bringing guardians and onieros to "small gangs"

you don't need T2 logi for "small gang" fucking T1s will be more than enough
>>
>>123493562
>armour brawlers have loads of mids
kek no
>>
yes let's argue about the definition of small gang, this'll be great as usual
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>>123495794
>30 man blob is a "small gang"
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>>123495889
that's a milligang
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>>123495889
Our fleets never really get over 15
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>>123496004
>needs T2 logi for just 15 guys

god damn you guys are shitters
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>>123496054
If were being faction battleship hulls id like to support them with t2 logi, thanks.
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>need 10 logi duders
After:
>need 20 logi duders
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>the only one who is your fleet is sadness

just like irl
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>1:1 ratio logi to dps
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>>123497030
I'll fleet up with you anon!
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Would level n+1 storylines boost my standings more than level n?
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>>123497917
yes, but keep in mind the time you need to complete the mission. sometimes is better to just do lvls 2 really fast
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>>123499371
I mean faction standings.
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>>123496167
>faction battleship
>in a sub 15 man gang

good luck when the blob comes and fucks you up

>yea guys 15 man gang
>we're doing everything T1 bringing t2 logi and doing a faction battleship
>>
RIP OFF GRID LINKS, MAY YOU NEVER RETURN
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>>123500098
git gud
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>>123501165
>my fleet is completely unbalanced and one sided
>git gud
>>
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6190014#post6190014
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>>123501219
>60% faction battleships supported by t2 ships is lopsided

git gud
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>>123501987
>15 man gang
>we have one faction battleship
>and 3 other logi
>11 guys in other arbitrary stuff
yea thats extremely lop sided, your fleet revolves around the survival of the battleship and your other ships are pointless in comparison

I'd rather take out a more balanced fleet where everyone's role was important and imperative rather than one fucking ship.
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>>123502109
>one faction battleship
>60%
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>>123502828
oh so before it was 1 faction battleship now the fleet is 60% faction battleships?

have fun getting blops dropped, there goes your entire fleet
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>>123503006
>1 faction battleship
where are you getting this

>blopsing something 40km away
or if its our vendi variant
>blopsing in w-space
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>>123503176
oh so you're a wormhole shitter

good job trying to shoe horn your shit thats basically a near significant portion of the PVP in the game
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>>123503317
stay mad
>>
>>123503452
>generalized topic
>NOO THATS NOT HOW I DO IT
>posts some retarded fleet concept
>dude no one runs this shit, your fleet is lopsided
>IT WORKS IN WORMHOLES
>great it works in 5% of all PVP
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>>123503540
stay upset
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>>123289162
>http://pastebin.com/vfF9zgz6
Mega tears, seems the future of EvE relies on this money sucking operation somehow.
>>
>>123303264
>http://pastebin.com/QT7yxnBC
[22/11/2015 22:44:31]
>Endie H: that was isk->cash in a way that I couldn't deal with, all covered by this "for the good of the imperium, getting our version out there" thing that was so deceitful I was choking on it
grr gons hat gons
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>>123312634
A whole bunch of Tribal Band leadership just quit eve and mmos in general after the Fountain war. Some cashed out their rmt, some just quit in disgust at TEST handing everything to gewns, whatever.
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>>123504643
So the tl;dr is: we tried to jew you, leddit caught on and shat all over us, now our feelings are hurt, pls no bully.
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>>123349069
>retention of those new players will have nothing to do with the book and everything to do with their experience versus expectation during the trial.
I saw an eve thread on /b/ in 2009, people saying what they were doing.
Guy posted a picture of an Incursus and said he was an anti-pirate in Placid lowsec.
What caught my interest was that people had all these options and no rails. The beauty of it hooked me at first, then the depth, the feeling i was one dude in a bustling crowd of people all farting around doing their business.
Somebody reading this thread might think eve players are more whiny than they are and the rmt stuff is discouraging.
>>
>>123349725
If it was the author's job, and be expected it to succeed, he'd write the goddamn thing then sell it. The kikestarter means either he thinks it'll flop, or he'll publish it for free.
>>
>>123505974
Basically
>we are huge faggots who got mainstream coverage for publicly encouraging people to harass a suicidal guy into killing himself
>now we all act like we didn't used to be the worst pieces of shit around by parroting sjw-tier logic about "toxic" "entitlement" "harassment" culture while some man babby calls himself the CEO of a crappy click bait gayming news site
tl;dr goons stay true to their 10bux heritage
>>
>c2 wormhole with both statics unopened
>no entry holes
>entire system within dscan range
>4 sansha relic sites
>Stratios
doesn't get any more comfy than this, /dog/
>>
>>123349725
>we could have a book written by an actual author
that guy is a bad writer. Not one descriptive passage. Don't believe the hype.
>>
>>123505124
but Endie is a goon
>>
>>123507916
>stratios for relic in a secure w-system
>>
>>123508274
>paying for a pos and swapping ships instead of just refitting
>>
>>123435821
5 star poast
>>
>>123466479
>whats better LS content
>>piracy
>>FW
porque no dos?
>>
>>123507675
Tsar Bomba poast, pls no rek so hard.
>>
>>123508360
>being a poornomad

in fact I played nomad style for a long time, going into deep null - whs all the time. is bretty funny and chill
>>
>>123504643
>Eve will die if you don't support us!
People were saying this as a joke for the first week.
>>
>>123507916
it does, my young wormbear
>>
>caldari
>>
>anything
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>Loki
B-but I just finished my Legion.
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>>123523232
>HAM Legion
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>t2fit ham legion
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>salvaging sleepers as I kill them
>not even in a Marauder
get on my level
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>trade hubs
>>
>log into amarr trader
>gregorian chant coming from down the hall

>log into dodixie trader
>some asian slut whispering sexually into my ear

whew dodixie
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logi changes
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6190014#post6190014
>>
resub after a few years. what new stuff is important to know?
>>
>>123523232
yfw you realize atype anps are better than t2 enams and free up 90+ cpu and have you redo your whole fit
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>>123530802
atype anps are better than faction enams too.
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>>123507916
i just rolled all incoming connections
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>>123530971
>nanoribbons
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>>123530802
You mean a Corpii A-Type EM Plating is better than an Energized EM membrane II?

Also what's the difference between Corpii, Coreli, and Centii even?
>>
>>123530971
>scramble on scanning ship without any sort of tank or dmg
for what purpose?
>>
>>123532271
hero tackle
i secured a 1.5bil siterunning prot kill with a covops once, died too
>>
>>123532259
>They only cost a mil and they're a whole 1 point worse than ENM's of the same type
Well shit.
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>all those alts that will be put down when offgrids boosting goes away

at least they can use them to open cynos
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>>123507916
You do know that wormholes including statics born opened now?
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>>123538230
>implying its not already used for ongrid damnation links

>>123538494
No, if you dont jump through they dont open for 8 hours
>>
>>123538595
Where did you get that piece of info about 8 hours?
>>
>>123538859
when they made the change and having lived in wormholes for so long
>>
>>123538859
not him but

patch notes to... odyssey? not sure which patch. basically the current behavior is that they spawn closed. you can warp to them without opening them; only jumping through opens them. At some point several hours after spawning - don't remember details - it has a chance to open that occurs periodically. This means that the older it is, the more likely it is to be open - but it has a chance to never open until it dies.
>>
Hey so I was without a computer for a while, and I wanna get back in, but I don't wanna buy until I try how it runs on this toaster so what are my options here?

I remember using something on their website to access my inventory to activate a plex, can you do that without having any plex? Like, I'll buy it right after if it runs decently?
>>
>>123523232
>trimarks and a plate
I bet you barely get above 1300m/s
>>
>>123539350
you can have a trial
if you provide an email you'll receive an invite
>>
>>123540097
Does that apply to already existing accounts?
>>
>>123539350
>>123540097
>>123540197
no

here you go
https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203531472-Hours-for-PLEX

you'll need 1,2 bil ISK to buy a plex
>>
>>123540197
no, but you can at least check if the game runs on the trial before resubbing your main
>>
>>123523232
6 ham 100mn or go home
>>
>>123539068
Well, that's strange because my corp got dropped by a gang of 15 T3 cruisers with both of our statics recently collapsed.
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>>123540490
they rolled into you

sigs have a delayed spawn

that or someone opened your connection
>>
>>123540490
did anyone warp to the WHs?
>>
>>123540579
No new sigs appeared for around 40 minutes while we got our asses slapped.
>>123540608
No.
>>
>>123541781
I guess leaving them verged is the safest

gay shit
>>
>>123541781
you probably has someone in home besides your corp that opened them

>>123541874
no, close em
>>
>>123542203
they cant bring a fleet through verged WHs
>>
>>123542303
just a few days ago LZHX killed a siting fleet with destroyers
>>
>>123542381
addendum;

Ive killed a siting fleeting by shoving a dread through a crit hole
>>
>>123542381
I stand corrected, but if your alliance has decent fleet sizes destroyers shouldnt do much

also, a medium WH verged is probably safer than a vlarge
>>
>>123542514
somewhat

fear the focused void bombs

and handful will push an archon under peak
>>
So cane has better dps, but fleet cane has better volley. What now?
>>
I'm starting a kickstarter for a book as well, vote for the title:
http://strawpoll.me/6112198
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>>123528853
is that 6km optimal for shield reps? wtf
>>
>>123546310
>no syndicate title
You had un job
>>
>>123460115
keep us updated please god its fucking gold, I hope that cancer gets purged from the game - I don't even care if we lose 3000 subscribers, I rather have a small game than having cancer like goonswarm around - they have served their purpose - take out the goddamn russians, now disband and fuck off already. I see these gooncunts in so many multiplayer games I played, they should fuck off back to SA.

yes I am indeed a little mad
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>mfw offgrid links will finally be ongrid

undoing legacy code? am I dreaming?
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Is this fit OK for PVP inside FW plexes, /eog/?
>>
>>123548776
>proton
>>
>>123549498
What's wrong with it?
>>
>>123547582
link the thread/dev blog please
>>
fuck the fucking servers
>>
>>123548776
why does it feel to me like a complete shitfit?
>>
>>123550862
>he doesn't know about the daily maintenance
>>
>>123551098
the fuck are you on about?
the maintenance that was an hour ago?
>>
>>123551161
It's just goons ddosing the servers again then.
>>
>>123548776
>proton
>no damage control
>shit Web module
>doesn't have oversized tank or oversized propulsion
Holy shit.
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Wait, falloff is the distance it reaches beyond optimal? In the game it looks like the total range. This changes a lot of things.
>>
>literally being in MoA
>>
>literally being in goons
>>
>implying
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>>123552156
15%
>>
>>123550956
>>123551879
So maybe you can just link me a decent fit? And what's wrong with proton?
>>
Wait, they're renaming ISIS and it's not to ISIL... CCP you had one job...
>>
>>123554736
Source?
>>
>>123554736
i think it's already on the test server already
>>
>>123554736
inb4 it's renamed to Al'Qaida
>>
>>123554736
why are they renaming it
>>
>>123557225
Just to clarify, the renaming has nothing to do with "ISIS" being a name used by any real life terrorist group.
I questioned Development about this when I saw the proposed name change internally, because if that was the reason then I was set to oppose it.
The reasoning for the change is the fact that the name is too obscure for new players, and might confuse them. Will pass the feedback from this thread on to the team working on it :)
>>
>>123557454
like anyone believes that bullshit
>>
>>123557623
It was in the test server before France and they haven't given a fuck about the rl isis in all this time so why would it matter now?.
>>
>>123556697
I think it's just called the Ship Tree now.
>>
>>123558219
Database Analyzer of Eve SHips or DAESH
>>
>>123558481
Kek/10
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>Amarr
>>
>>123557885
because when about a hundred people die it affects about a thousand directly and millions indirectly and the word can just piss them off.
Pity, too, Isis is a cool goddess, but the swastika is an awesome symbol and you can't put that all over your car either.
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>>123557885
>before France
>ISIS started in France
>>
>>123554703
Try this

[Svipul, Ilovedicksinmyanus]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Gyrostabilizer II

1MN Microwarpdrive II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Stasis Webifier II

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Light Missile
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/ccp-streams-does-it-fat-baking-starcakes/

>>123561412
Nice shitfit.
>>
>>123561810
Better than his. I don't see you posting any fits.
>>
>T2 MWDs
>>
It's important to know that someone will always say a fit shit. It could be a rookie ship or a freighter. Someone thinks it's shit. I use this one for fleets when there are frigs to tackle stuff.

[Svipul, Svipul]

Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Tracking Enhancer II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script

280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion S
Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe
[Empty High slot]

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator II
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>Sensor Booster
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>karmafleet
>custom medals for 250m isk
>farmers farming farmers
>>
>>123561412
Where is the scram in your fit?
>>
>>123562573
I meant to put a scram instead of the web. Just replace the web.
>>
>>123562962
And how would you chase a frigate that put a web and scram on you?
>>
>>123561980
Unless I'm doing something wrong, your fit doesn't fit.

Even with a +6% PG hardwiring and a full set of genos.
>>
>>123563090
I hope you have power grid management 5 and cpu management 5.
>>123563016
>not just outtanking it while shooting back in sharpshooter mode
>>
>>123561810
I'm gonna really enjoy this stream. Max comfymode.
>>
>>123563210
Go shoot back dat garmur scramkiting you from 20km.
>>
>this setup is shit because it can't kill a garmur
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>Snuffed Out
>>
>>123564785
You're kidding right? If you see a fucking garmur you warp out. The only way you can get a Svipul to kill a garmur is when you specially fit it to and then manage to scram and web it down.
>>
>>123565197
most garmur fits you cannot kill with any svipul fit, but the first bit is correct - as with any ship, if you see a garmur on scan you warp to safety
>>
>tfw snuffed is the new darkness.
>>
I saw some people asking for a FW corp. so [IBLOB] is recruiting, if you wanna try FW and are not too insufferable you can get in.
>>
>>123569267
>Each pilot to give 5.000 lps per day to ihubs when we at Faction tier 2 or above
>Full ACCOUNT API with no expiry. in app
>>
>>123569267
>FW corp looking for people who are not too insufferable
you looking to improve your memberbase?
>>
>>123569543
> 5000 lp/day

It's an old thing we forgot to get out of the description, you can ignore it.

>>123569578
More like I would like more people with fucking T3Ds in the corp.

The guys here are pretty nice, but god could they use getting a clue about what to fly.
>>
>>123570208
>More like I would like more people with fucking T3Ds in the corp.
then train them it's pretty short
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>>123570329
> mfw that's what I'm telling them
> they still don't do it

I just wanna raise our power level :(
>>
>>123570618
AWOX time and you find a better corp then
>>
>>123570731
nah I'm commited to the corp now.

Plus there are some things done right in it, plex warfare for example.
>>
How much sensor strength do i need to not be jammed by guristas?

Also why are belt rats during incursions in lowsec replaced by the sansha über rats? Gay shit, almost got rekt.
>>
>>123571030
it's chance based m8. you're probably better off just using something that can't ever be jammed, like drones or auto-targeting missiles, or just killing the jammer rats first.
>>
Are the Firetail, Slasher, Rifter, Jaguar and Wolf all shit?

Should I just train for a Breacher instead? Train for missile skills I mean. I can fly a Svipul and Dramiel. Just wanted something cheaper.
>>
>>123572097
yeah
and yeah

breacher da shit
>>
>>123572097
the firetail is ok, it's a little bit gimmicky. most people run saar dc gyro, ab web web scram, 280mm arties, collision aux aux. very no-brain scram kiter against the usual ab web scram fits you find in plexes.
you can change it a little to ab web scram tracking disruptor, but you'll still pretty much be flying exactly what people expect you to be flying. autocannon setups are possible but just kind of weak imo. a neutron comet will outdps you at all ranges and has a far better tank because of gallente hull tanking

slasher is ok for a poorfag gang tackler, I wouldn't solo in it

rifter is trash

jaguar and wolf are trash because they're AFs

breacher is pretty good but you're really stuck just flying the one setup everyone expects, with ab web scram masb. have fun docking up every fight for more cap boosters

thrasher is what you want nefantar master race
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>>123572097
slasher is based as fuck if you know what you're doing but it's tight to fit so you'll want AWU V
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>>123572484
>have fun docking up every fight for more cap boosters
Ancillary shields are better than the shield boosters in my opinion though.
>slasher solo
It's what I've been doing with some success. Been able to beat out destroyers and cruisers but they were probably incompetent fools.

I don't like the thrasher because it gets killed by anything other than a frigate.
>>123572775
>AWU V
What?
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>>123573070
of course they're better than shield boosters. normal shield boosters aren't even a viable module on these kinds of ships. my point is ancillary shield boosters are just a pain in the ass to use compared to small ancillary armor reps, since everyone you kill drops nanite paste, or compared to the ultimate lazy tank - buffer shield. breacher ends up with very low ehp, so you can get really fucking trashed by artillery, whereas most gallente dc + saar ships have pretty decent ehp.

>slasher solo

you can do some trickery with tracking disruptors to kill bad turret ships, but drones and missiles are just so prevalent these days, and everyone is well aware of how powerful webs are. it just seems very uncommon to encounter something you can kill with a slasher.

>it gets killed by anything other than a frigate.

well yeah, that's how destroyers work. I wouldn't count on your frigates being able to kill cruisers though honestly, since 90% of them are drone ships or RLML ships
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>warp to belt 4 at 0
>notice a ship 100km away warping
>warp to belt 5 at 100, landing directly on him
Funniest kill I've had in a while.
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>>123573492
>drone ships
I could try to kill their drones while staying under their guns or just try to outspeed the drones to take less hits.

Missile ships are a pain of course and I avoid fighting them when I can.
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>>123574589
>I could try to kill their drones while staying under their guns or just try to outspeed the drones to take less hits.

that doesn't happen. you will always die to any drone ship
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>>123574708
What tactics can one employ against drones? I've heard there was a new ECM thing that can jam drone controls but nothing has happened since then.

I've killed a ship employing valkyrie drones once too.
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>>123575168
nothing. you can only kill the drones if you're in a very tanky ship, and you can only reliably avoid the drone damage if you're in a fast kiting ship, or if the drone ship is using sentries and being a dumbass.
you can technically jam drones, but that's extremely impractical unless you're fighting a rattlesnake or something, and not something you can do solo.
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>>123575310
Well I'm going to move to the breacher then. RIP minmatar projectile frigates.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyYs4sdBTvk

The Serpentis aren't going to be happy about this.
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>>123576360
>npc bubbles
Now that would be fucking dank.
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>>123575957
pretty much. rifter slasher and firetail are getting like a 0% buff in a week or so.
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>>123576973
Meanwhile the breacher is getting a buff. What the fuck CCP.
>>
Are you ready for dirty as fuck ships?
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/dirt-killmarks-dirt-and-destruction-in-new-eden/
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>>123578642
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20151208T11&p0=211&msg=Winter+Patch&font=slab

Bookmark this
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>>123579394
dope
>>
Anyone from proviblock here? Do you have gay bubbles on every other gate or is it mostly free travel?
>>
ccp bakes a cake
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>>123583082
when they could be nerfing links instead
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>>123569543
>>123569543
>>Full ACCOUNT API with no expiry. in app

why is a full API an issue?
even better, why would you be in a corp that doesnt require one?
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>>123586829
>wanting to be part of megacorps
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>>123586829
burgers think giving out your API is like the NSA spying on you
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>nullfag miners
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>>123586998
even a small corp can get shat on by spies
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>>123587280
>spies type "shh don't tell anyone I'm a spy" in their eve-mails
wew lad
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>miners
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>>123587723
good ones dont but some info is better than no info if you want to filter them out
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>>123587919
have you ever actually filtered out a spy from their api?
>>
Multiple job interviews tomorrow. Do I tell them about my FC skills?
>>
How much alts would unsub if mining got a minigame like hacking?
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Where can I find decent resolution images (better than pyfa's 32x32) of eve ship miniatures, icons, modules etc

I need them for reasons

preferably in data dump format, not gonna save each image on uniwiki
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>>123589139
you could link them some battle reports
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>bistot
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>>123589397
if you think botting is a problem now, imagine what it'd be like with a minigame that must be beaten optimally to get maximum yield
>>
>>123590789
it would be less of a problem after
>>
>>123590789
>optimally
Have you ever hacked? There is no definite way because the nodes spawn randomly or to shit on you.
>>
>>123578642
They should also add burns and patches where armor was penetrated and then repaired in space.
>>
>>123592368
>patches
Nigga it's the future. We repair with nanobots.
>>
daily reminder that the apocalypse navy issue's shield systems are state-of-the-art
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>>123592687
Is this a new meme? Or have I just missed it until now? It's pretty good. I like it
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>>123592906
>>>>
>>
>>123592547
And nanobots then color the surface with magical nanopaint?
>>
>rusfags in charge of nyxes
>>
What happened to that sov tournament CCP ran? I remember they were going to name Entosis links after the winners.
>>
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>>123589560
like this?
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>the capacitor is empty
>the capacitor is empty
>the capacitor is empty
>the capacitor is empty
>the capacitor is empty
>>
>>123597715
>ungrouped guns
>cap recharger not reloading possibly forgot boosters like a noob
>>
>>123596506
They're supposed to get meta Entosis Links named after them, but they don't exist yet.
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>>123597715
Your layout is triggerring me.
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>>123598004
the capacitor is empty m8. I ungrouped the guns so I can get a few shots off when nearly empty. cap booster not reloading because out of boosters.

>>123598158
I usually put the gun stack on F4
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>>123597715
Thorax/deimos?
>>
>>123598268
>the capacitor is empty m8. I ungrouped the guns so I can get a few shots off when nearly empty. cap booster not reloading because out of boosters.
you're shooting hybrids not lasers, you have enough cap to shoot and use tackle
or use 2 rep cycles
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>>123598595
I was extremely neuted, damage control turned off a few times too
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How do you fly a Succubus?
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>>123572097
>>123572097
the jaguar isnt that great, its suppoed to be the kitey artillery ship but its really slow and it doesn't have any fitting what so ever to fit artillery, a prop and tank. the Wolf is better IMO because it brawls well but only 2 mids and its lack of speed puts it on par with the punisher.

Firetail is fucking amazing, you can fit that how ever you want, armor or shield and its great

the slasher is the quick tackle frigate, the rifter is the attack frigate
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>>123599447
you kite and use long range pules with scorch to keep transversal and damage up
>>
>>123599453
rifter is a combat frigate m8

and a major thing the jaguar is lacking is a 4th gun. except the ishkur, it's the only af with only 3 guns. its damage is just laughable. and it's pretty fast for an af, but that doesn't say a lot

I don't think firetails are as good as you think they are. they're alright
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>>123599742
>rifter is a combat frigate m8
same thing, each race has 5 types of frigs, one for fast tackle, one as an attack frigate and the last as a brawler with good tank, the logi ship, and the ewar ship

the firetail is great because it can be fit so many different ways
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>>123600349
no, they have 2 combat frigates 1 attack frigate. slasher is attack, rifter breacher are combat.
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>>123600607
>slasher is attack
its the tackle

same with amarr, executioner is the tackle, tormentor is the attack, punisher is the heavy brawl
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>>123600685
nope. tackle is not an official ccp ship role. it's attack. tormentor is combat, punisher is combat.
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>>123601394
>>123601394
>>123601394
>>123601394
>>
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>>123601519
>>
>>123601963
AND ALSO TACKLE, do the others have tackle role?
Nope
therefore its a tackling ship with attack capabilities
>>
>>123602078
no it's an attack ship with tackle capabilities

you can go check out the tormentor and punisher if you want, they don't have any of that dumb shit you said
>>
>>123602170
>you can go check out the tormentor and punisher if you want, they don't have any of that dumb shit you said
of course they don',t they are not tackle ships, the executioner is.
>>
lmao dude anything can fit a point
>>
>>123602457
they're also not attack ships and they don't have any kind of 'heavy brawl' trait
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>>123602518
Punisher is a combat ship, and it does have tank bonus.

The tormentos has an activation cost bonus which allows it to have superior repair fits and a drone bay to brawl with
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>>123602921
they have the same traits
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>era of memefits
>people argue about ship roles
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>punisher nerf
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>slasher is not a tackling ship according to /eog/
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>one fucking guy
>/eog/
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>minmatar
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>>123599447
it's pretty shit. just pretend you're a tormentor or something, except you're 1 web less webbed than normal, and you're shield tanked. except this is lowsec and the current shitty state of the game means you need to hull tank with a small ancil and dual webs.
>>
>minmaxtar
>amarrica
>gallhentai
>>
put the latest things in the op this time pls kevin, we got time
>>
>page 10
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>>123606971
>i don't always

soon soon
>>
Do I smell another fuck off Kevin edition? Come on Kevin we had time but this is taking it too far.
>>
i have scanning to do come on guys

>>123611298
>>123611298
>>123611298
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