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Previous thread: >>122382207

>Tempest & Warbands info
http://nembibi.com/

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP (embed) (embed)

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>2.0 Passive Skill Tree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree

>Offline Skill Tree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Delete This
https://github.com/ben-wallis/Filtration
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first for hardcore = kekcore
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>>122780973
>for 1.3
How have we not updated this shit.
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Third for anime and everyone stop fighting.
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>>122781178
Here's a newer one.
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>>122781276
Where's the quick rolls sheet?

Yaknow what, fuck it. I'm gonna make a roll sheet for 2.1
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>>122781276
they really did a good job of pissing everyone off before 2.0 was released

i'm amazed this game is still alive
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>>122781535
>i'm amazed this game is still alive
If you're amazed by the game being alive because some people didn't get beta invites then don't even take a look at the gaming industry in general. You'll probably have a heart attack and with good reason.
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>>122781991
it wasn't just the beta

i can't even think of all the things they did that made people angry
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>>122781535
you underestimate the combination of autism and lack of similar games
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>>122782139
Dude, we live in an age where people pay full price to test the alpha of a game. That's the single most retarded thing I've ever seen. And most of the time the game doesn't even come out.

People pre-order games months in advance with a 10% off at best for games with no idea whatsoever what it'll be in them. People are complete retards.

At least that's the one thing I can appreciate GGG 100% for. Their business model is the single best F2P model out there.
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just found a perfect silverbranch
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is this good?
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>>122782472
>Their business model is the single best F2P model out there.
it's decent. other f2p models are catching up to them though. it's hard to find a blatantly p2w game these days.

poe is p2w with stash tabs. it's pretty much impossible to compete and win league demis without abusing vendor recipes which require enormous amounts of storage space. i still managed to win a demi with only four stash tabs but believe me, it was fucking ridiculous. in fact, i'd bet i'm the only person to ever win a league demi without spending any money on tabs.
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Reminder to turn vsync on
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>>122782810
Why did you put WED on that?
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>>122781441
well shit here's yer rolls
1-5 cyclone
4-0 poison arrow
dubs totem madness
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>>122782810
bretty legit
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>>122785215
>1-5
>4-0
Don't you mean, 0-4 and 5-9?
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>>122785421
I didn't put a lot of thought into it.
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>>122785484

>poeg
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>>122786973
r u ok
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hello!?
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>>122788192
>has the 1 month started yet
it's already over dude
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>>122788305
here's a blank template so people can make an updated version of it
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there will be no life wheel in the new tree

make sure to screencap this
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the new tree will be shit

make sure to screencap this
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breaking news: poe is shit
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>>122791523
>news
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>>122782810
>WED over crit multi

For what purpose
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>>122792439
>why didn't you put 4 suffixes on your bow
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>>122782810
did you craft it from scratch? tech me sempai
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>do a t8
>get 3 +0s, 2 +1s and a +2 off boss
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>>122793952
>do the next 10 maps
>get no positive maps
Sup cat.
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>>122795049
wont happen cuz i alch'n'go famz

ill do any map, any mods
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Is the poison rework coming with the Talisman league?
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>>122795147
>ill do any map, any mods
Anyone doing T8 can do that cat.
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>>122795242
>T8

>map tiers
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>>122795380
shills gon shill
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>>122793952
????Are you not the same cat¿¿¿¿
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>roll a hard ass fuckin map
>chris puts zombies in it
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>>122795189
yes
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You can add any one thing you want to PoE gameplay.
And add any one cosmetic microtransaction you want.
What things do you put in, /poeg/?
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>>122799407
playable gnome/midget race
pacman SRS
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>>122799407
private servers with custom balance
"hide all other (don't load) mtx" mtx
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>>122799407
>You can add any one thing you want to PoE gameplay.
Wings as another equipment slot. Because MU was the first MMO I played and these questions always make me answer the most random shit.
On a more serious note, corrupted flasks. Or something else for flasks. After all flasks is one thing PoE has that almost no other arpg manages to do well.
>And add any one cosmetic microtransaction you want.
Alternate skill effects for bow skills(like TS, LA, IS, BA etc), but I have no idea what they'd be.
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>>122800962
>private servers
im 90% sure you can buy these from ggg
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>>122803667
they were promised a while ago, and never really mentioned again
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>>122802341
> After all flasks is one thing PoE has that almost no other arpg manages to do well

yeah senpai 50% less elemental damage taken with 100% uptime sure is well made :^)
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>>122804009
Do you mean Private Leagues?
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>>122804472

Paid Leagues fucking WHEN

>no 12yo freefags
>drop rates balanced for a smaller playerbase
>skills balanced for an econ that never touches permaleagues
>no retarded poeg shills like catposter or animeposter who are too poor to spend money on their entertainment
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>>122804985
are you retarded
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>>122804985
this must be hanz

nobody else is this conceited
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>>122804418
Oh damn, you're right. Spam mana pots and life pots or put a global cooldown on them is the way to go!

Say whatever you want, I don't remember an arpg having a flask system as good as PoE's. And don't act like that's making you OP. Besides Taste of Hate which is extemely broken, flasks are at a great place.
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>>122805780
flasks (and specifically insta-flasks) are the reason that the balance is so fucking shit in this game. When you can instantly heal consistently, the only 'challenge' comes from things that do so much damage they kill you before you can react
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>>122806252
>things that do so much damage they kill you before you can react
So shit in end game maps that people never run and bosses that people skip? Man, game's so fucking easy.
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>tfw everyone... EVERYONE will be playing fart builds next league
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>>122809008
>tfw when people throw out predictions without even seeing the new tree, the list of changes or any kind of patch notes
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>>122809235
this to be honest family
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>>122809235
>imbyling there are any other options
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D
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>>122814116
epepiiii
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1481764

Don't die before tomorrow. Amerifats keep the thread up kthx.
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>>122815283
who cares
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>>122815415
Considering how fast you replied, I'm sure you do. Stop being a shitty tsundere senpai.
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>>122815507
you repulse me
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>>122815584
Okay, shitty tsundere it is.
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>>122812401
pls make it into a blue banner
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>>122816509
wait that's the shitty version, here's the good one
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>>122816509
>>122816697
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goat trovepost coming through
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>>122799407
Ghost reskins for zombies. Fuck statues and mummies
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>>122818596
nice trove senpai

spoiler that shit
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announcement of an announcement
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>>122819469
last week there was the announcement for this announcement of an announcement for the expansion.
ggg are such memers
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>>122815283

>implying i can stay awake after eating 2 mexican arrachera cheeseburgers with giant fries
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>>122818596
thanks for the update
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OH MY GOD GUYS
ARE YOU FUCKING READY

I FEEL IN MY HEART THIS TIME FOR SURE
IS GOING TO BE THE BEST EXPANSION EVER
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>>122815283
>1.10 Sacrifice of the Vaal
>1.20 Forsaken Masters
>1.30 PVP
>2.00 The Awakening
>2.10 Infinite Dungeon with all previous existing tiles
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>>122820890
>coming early july 2016
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>>122821443

>playing poe
>after Tree of Saviour launch

nigga im gonna go relive my childhood on that ragnarok online clone
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>>122821259
>PVP
WHO THE FUCK WANTED THIS
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>>122823084
a few streamer fags that don't even play anymore
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>>122823084
Like 20 people from D2 who keeps complaining about lack of PVP focus.
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>>122823084
I want cutthroat pvp but that would require an earnest effort on their part rather than tacking some bullshit onto the game.
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>>122823580
that's all I needed
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>>122821443
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was just about to install poe to my new gaming laptop but the whole damn thing is down
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>>122827545
steam
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Me at my new job lol.

Made 462$ in sales commisions in 7 hours.
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>start using a ramdisk exclusively for poe, since SSD is apparently not good enough
>feed rare to darkshrine, get beyond
>game freezes for 3 (three) seconds
nice game poetards
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>>122828696
nice, half way to a supporter pack
your divination card better be useful
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>>122828893
why bother playing hc before they fix their shit client performance
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>>122828987
What do you guys want it to be? I wanna make a poeg community div card that isnt carrion crow
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>>122828893
it works fine on my computer, must be something wrong with urs lol
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>>122829058
Hardcore only card that trades for an item without life/res/es
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>>122829208
So tabula, jewelry, gem, orb, div, belt card?

Sounds interesting
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>>122829058
div card that gives you a white cobalt/crimson/viridian jewel
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>>122829029
Why bother playing SC before they add some interesting endgame challenges that aren't just "reach level 100"?
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>>122828696
ooo look at me i dont rmt anymore
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>>122830435
I RMT like a motherfucker.....


If I want to play a super high end build anywhere.... I just call up my RMTing pocket chink on skype and load up on exalts lol poorfag.
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>>122830528
rmt to make money. holy shit you're retarded
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>>122830667
why not just sell overpriced cellular phone plans to elderly folk who will croak within two years instead?

Much more profitable
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>>122828696
damn son ur fat
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>>122830718
unless you're an rmtlord...
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>>122830759
im not..!!!??? 190lbs 6'0....


The dress shirt is just fucking baggy

dont tell me youre just baiting for real nudes of me
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>>122827545
>gaming laptop
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>>122828696

>neck wider than face
>manlet shirt still too big
>noodly arms
>white
>girly smartphone grip

2/10 apply yourself
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>>122827545
>gaming laptop
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>>122831231
More like 2/10 I want to kill myslef
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>>122828696
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3tii8t/will_the_new_chaos_skills_count_as_cold_gems/
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>WoW
>over 11 years old
>has been updated several times, including an update to dx11(and probably dx12 soon)


>poe
>5 years old
>dx9
>only utilizes one core
>so many layers of effects that it gets 5fps in parties
>community has been complaining for years
>nothing but excuses and even saying "it's impossible"
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how long till darkshrines end? i'm too lazy to open up the client and see how many days are left
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>>122833456
i hope they port poe to vulkan so we can get a speedy linux client

dx 11 is ass btw i'd prefer dx9 to it, it's just poe isn't a shining example
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>>122833456
thats because >muh in-house made engine

its really resource-expensive to be a game dev and an engine dev. if you are gonna make a game AND an engine, you better think big from the start. GGG didnt, now they are in a cul de saq, engine-wise

>>122834706
it will never be ported to vulkan. expect an engine overhaul sometime before the game dies, but its staying dx-only
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>we are currrently investigating network issues
well done GGG
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>>122816697
This is the best thing to come out of poeg in the recent past.

Does anyone have the "muh arc" image with the regal orb?
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>>122835782
>it will never be ported to vulkan
do you wanna fucking go?
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>>122837195

when Path of Exile II: Return of the Vaal releases, it will prolly be in vulkan, but thats only because its gonna be a casual mobile game
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>>122837889
>le mobile stigmatization man faec
goes to show only naive bums are using something other than vulkan
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>>122821259
the next expansion will be 2.2.
2.1 will only be talisman league and new skills and balance
they already clarified that shit
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>>122799407
i'd like a test chamber where i can test any skill item build combo and reset it at will. and a pony
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>>122799407
CAMERA ROTATION
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My friend was pointing out that I have no life and play PoE way too much. I told him this is incorrect with legacy Kaoms I have 9.6k life which is alot life. People that go CI have no life I mean they only have 1 life that's not a whole lot. Compare to those people I have alot life.
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>>122833456
F2p game. GGG is a great company but they still have issues figuring some stuff out like displaying the correct resistances in HO, add lvl 8 masters to HO permanently and more. They don't have the experience blizzards has. I'm not saying the devs are bad they are great but they are just a small company in New Zealand. I just think this is their limitation being a smaller company and hoe their game is made. Maybe they need more experience? I don't know.

They don't have 100 devs working on something. The only spell that lags is Discharge and maybe whispering ice. If another spell or skill makes you lag update your toaster.
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>still playing PoE past 2.0
>pretending to enjoy it
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>>122848672
ill pretend to enjoy whatever the fuck i want tbhfam
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>>122848238
Chris please
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>>122849358
Nigger, memes and shitposting aside, even comparing GGG to blizzard earns you the "pantsu on head retarded" title.
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literally ded general
lmao poetards
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>>122856221
I don't understand why there isn't an ARPG general

>TL2, D3/2, PoE, Grim Dawn, Titan Quest, Van Helsing, etc
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>>122857374
because it would most likely just be a shitfest about which ARPG is the best
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>>122857437
I think it's worth a shot, most people are more mature than that these days.
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>>122857961
>most people are more mature than that these days

this is the internet
this is 4chan
this is /vg/

are you fucking insane?
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>>122857961
Not on v/vg
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>>122857961
Why is it always tripfags that come up with the most retarded ideas
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Where da leaks at bois.
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>>122857961
>most people are more mature than that these days.
As expected of tripfag retard.
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Can't wait for the expansion announcement. My wallet is ready for the MTX's and more vendor trash uniques!
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WHERE IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT! FUCK
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>>122861914
>>122864769
>being excited for an expansion after the blunder that was 2.0

I'm gonna laugh if they pull that closed beta shit again
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>>122865102
I'm sorry anon, but even though i know GGG are pretty incompetent i still can't help being excited.
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>tfw the remove a random mod orb I've been propagating for a year isn't gonna be in the announcement ;_;
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Announcement ETA 4 hours, right?
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>>122867639
this is like waiting for a turd to wash up on shore
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>/poeg/ is moving so slow that i've started browsing the retarded shit people say on the subreddit
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>>122869003
i've never been THAT bored. not in my whole life.
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>>122869003
you could always play the game
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>>122867639
3
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>>122869230
Darkshrine is just so boring. Stacking prefixes and shit for darkshrines and hoping it gives me something good isn't good enough for a whole league.
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>>122869385
uh..
does that mean 3.5 or 2.5?
because it's xx:25 now, and the announcement said it would happen on the hour
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>>122869570
3.5
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What GGG should do to make you reinstall the game, senpaiília?
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>>122871469
make it fun desu
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>>122871469
>/fa/ meetup
>just bland dark colors

I thought the whole reason of being a /fa/ faggot was to stand out a bit. Not look like everyone else.
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>>122871469
Nerf Incinerate
Nerf Cyclone
Nerf Caustic Arrow
Add more lvling uniques
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>>122871469
is the neck of the dude in the middle left shopped?
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>>122874148
the entire picture is shopped...
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>>122874868
>tfw thinking about RMTing my currency in default leagues to get the bucks back I spend on stash tabs
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>>122875182
Just remember, if you don't meet the "internal" requirements, you may have some problems. Like no more account.
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did i do good, /poeg/

what's this bad boy worth? can't find +3 staves on poe trade
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>>122878572
Depends, SC, HC, or Darkshrine?
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>>122878731
HC, I was doing my Zana daily when I found it. Otherwise I would've been playing DSHC.
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>>122878827
Pricing is kind of wonky in permanent HC. No idea, but a lot.
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>>122878827
Then it's irrelevant because no one will buy it. Hardcore perm is completely dead dude. You're honestly much better off ripping your character and playing on standard if you play in permanent leagues. At least there are players there.
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>>122875182

>tfw got more than I spent selling my STD stash
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>>122878572
where is bm craft mod?

lmao 5l
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>>122881387
wouldn't cast speed be better than bm?
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>>122881536
both
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>>122881625
i was under the impression that 'can have multiple crafted mods' was a suffix, and i only have room for 1 more suffix and 0 prefixes on that staff
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Is there anyone working for GGG that is bigger beta than Dan?

>m'lady doesnt like to be courted in such way, this is so unrealistic
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>>122882251
>strong assertive charismatic alpha male gets all the pussy, this is so problematic and doesnt ever happen in real life
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>>122882251
spectre is shit because the villain was weak and the entire 3rd act was unnecessary

why does he have to type out a thesis about it

like anyone asked for his opinion anyway
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>>122878282
I'll try to move my stuff I sell to a second account. Maybe a friend ones who doesn't play anymore anyway.

>>122881360
Where'd you sell it? d2jsp?
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>>122799407
Bringing this back.
>You can add/majorly modify 1 thing to the game related to playing the game
>You can remove any 1 thing from the game
>You can add 1 MTX
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>122884486
20 minutes to announcement.
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>>122884740
you cant even know how hype i am

this is going to be amazing
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>>122884073
>You can add/majorly modify 1 thing to the game related to playing the game
Cast on Crit can only proc once per skill activation
>You can remove any 1 thing from the game
Remove whoever at GGG decideed to remove Skullbearers
>You can add 1 MTX
Basic Arrow MTX applied to Quivers
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>>122884850
Jack off to some Piety porn to pass the time.
It's weird to say jack off, because my brother is named Jack...
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>>122884981
>tfw new NTR got scanned
>relatives arrive fucking one week early for Thanksgiving
>can't fap cause cousins constantly intruding in the room
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>>122884981
i was being sarcastic

i dont care about new shit

i just want to see already existing things get improved. now that i would get excited for
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who /readyfordisappointment/ here lads?
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>>122885995
will be probably about the same level as that talisman shit
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just took a dump lol
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>>122884740
>OG vs EHOME ends with OG victory just as PoE expansion announcement goes live
Life is alright sometimes
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>>122886345
so will ggg in about 5 minutes
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any new troves?
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>>122886454
soon senpai
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>>122886454
>troves
What?
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>>122886401
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It's time.
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WHERE IS MY ANNOUNCEMENT YOU LAZY FUCKS
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https://www.pathofexile.com/ascendancy
https://www.pathofexile.com/ascendancy
https://www.pathofexile.com/ascendancy
https://www.pathofexile.com/ascendancy
https://www.pathofexile.com/ascendancy
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>>122886908
https://www.pathofexile.com/ascendancy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwCGT8ttfWE
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>classes evolve
WE MU ONLINE NOW
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>ascendancy classes and skill trees
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Okay this is more than what I expected.
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FREE melee splash
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I'm impressed. We might be disappointed down the line but FUCK YOU I'M SO HYPED RIGHT NOW
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>>122887314
>not going champion for free fortify
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUXxTpp7xCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htkZs5IGGpg
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EARLY [s]JULY[/s] 2016
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>>122887636
>Saboteur
I can finally fix my Trapper! Fuck yes.
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>>122888096
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>You have Fortify
oh fug
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>>122888057
It's obvious that it's coming after the new 3 month league.
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>>122887636
I like the new multitrap behavior
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>Necromancer
>Spirit Eater
TOP FUCKING KEK
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>>122888160
WHAT THE FUCK. I can fix my WoE BoR Duelist too? Holy fucking shit.
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>The Lord's Labyrinth

>Having completed the Trials of Ascendancy in the current difficulty level, you may enter the Lord's Labyrinth through the Statue of the Goddess in Sarn.

so that's why they changed it, huh. This means you probably don't have to clear act4 to get to that stuff.

So this is expandition is pretty much Sen's Fortress: PoE edition. better inform my ISP because dodging all that stuff seems to cancerous with lag
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seems interesting desu

but i bet everyone will still be playing cyclone, flame totem and SRS
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>>122882251
>>122882385
>>122882413

>2015
>still watching bond movies

even normiefags are tired of them
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>>122888343
Of course they will because these things only make skills stronger, including the already strong ones.
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pentatotem siege ballista will be the best new memebuild
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>>122887496
id rather have the 100% block applied to spellblock desu
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>ascendancy point refunds cost 5 regrets
thanks for nothing
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>>122888691
>Per 200 Dex
>Can hit well over 1000 Dex with that bow equipped
>That's at least 6 total Ballistas.
>At least +40-120 damage to attacks
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>>122888691
Looks tempting.
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>early 2016
Why are they advertising it now?
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Can't wait to see the broken builds that come from the stupidly powerful ascendancy skills.
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>armour received from body armour is doubled
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>the game still doesnt have Spears/Glaives
Fuck this bullshit.
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>Inquisitor hosted on Yahoo, kek.
>Scion only gets 1 Ascendency tree
Oh boy...
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>poe introduces additional classing that railroads builds and playstyle into 2-3 options per class
>w-we're not like d3 at all!!!
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>Early 2016
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Excuse me?
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great so we can look forward to nothing new for the next 4-5 months
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>>122888970
>14% increased dex amulet from talisman league
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>>122889767
new leagues are coming out in 3 weeks
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>>122889726
surely this will be implemented with zero or minimal balance testing
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>>122889665
>2-3
>railroads
Not at all. It gives you 3 trees (except maybe Scion) to further modify your character on the grand scheme. Each tree has 6 points to spend (if the whole 2 points per difficulty is the only source of points) which is enough for any 4 point path and 1 2 point path on one of the circles.

It's some big shit and I like it.

A D3 is still running the same skills, no variety, with the same runes, no variety, until death do they part.
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>>122889679
can't wait for ascendancy league coming October 2016!
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Why does the Scion only have a single subclass?
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>>122889965
>that inefficient pathing
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>>122890070
Because its a class only played by niggers. They deserve less.
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>>122889965
scion start looks as bad as ever, templar/witch unchanged, crit cluster nodes number near shadow reduced, wonder if the remaining 3 will be buffed to compensate for that
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>>122890070
probably supposed to make more of a point how she's all the shit in one or something
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I'm honestly thinking about switching to d3. PoE needs to fix core game issues. There are just too many...
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>>122889965
>>122890129
>ggg still can't play for shit
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>>122890291
please do
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>>122889726
this can be kind of bad, if you're playing with a curser enemies get negative resistances
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>>122890070
Scions subclass probably has 10 paths to choose from instead of the 4-5 other classes have.
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>>122890335
>exalted supporter
heh
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>>122890357
They get negative resistances anyway because every single Elemental build runs Pen by default. Meaning every crit puts them at -40%, and thats pre cursing. If you have a Curse Aura they are like -90%.
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>>122890070
all of scion ascendancy points are extra jewel slots
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>>122890291
See you in 1 week when you'll have accomplished everything there is to do in d3.
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>there are redditards in poeg RIGHT NOW that bought supporter packs and now spend their days shilling in order to mitigate their buyer's remose
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>>122890472
What sort of reason is that? A 3 year old supporter pack that gives you no valuable in-game advantage or goodies stops you from switching games?
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>>122890495
at this point, with what poe offers, not sure if want more than 1 week of content...
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>>122890603
>my large financial contributions clouds my judgement
>>
>Dankshrines confirmed a permanent part of the expansion

we scouring shit rares for orbs boys
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>>122890728
I probably spent more on the game than he did because I bought multiple supporter packs for 250+. Yet I havent actively played the game in like 2 years. So please, stop pushing this bullshit. People who bought supporter packs are the reason you little leeching nigger can play the game in the first place.
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>>122890982
I've just about had with freefag leeches complaining about stuff that is free to them.

Thats why we need paid leagues, and for every expansion to be at least $60
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>>122891171
>at least $60

expansions cost $40 you kike faggot shill

I'm all for paid leagues though (just give the people paying benefits for being on them like much expanded stashes)
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>>122890982
>>122891171
>i wasted money to feed my superiority complex

worse than HC players desu

pic related: u
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>>122891171
Youre part of the opposite spectrum: a fucking nigger who doesnt understand that supporter packs exists to support the developer, not get in-game advantages. Both of you suffer from severe mental disabilities.

1-2 years back these packs were justified. Nowadays I dont see how they are anymore. The developer doesnt need support, its in a financially stable position. What they are doing right now is exploit fans.

>>122891437
Exceptional lack of reading comprehension skills. Staggering how this general manages to get worse.
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>>122890982
But I did buy a supporter pack, I just didn't drop a grand or more on the game. My monetary donation is in harmony with what I feel the game is worth, hence my opinion of the game isn't influenced in any way.
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>>122890982
>>122891171
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>>122891437
>poor
>playes babbyleague
Relax and hang tight m8, tomorrow we'll be back to shitposting
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>critical hits ignore enemy resistances
>non critical hits penetrate 10% resistance

templar confirmed dank
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>You Have Fortify
I HAVE FORTIFY
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>>122891763
time to roll my plans of me using a staff to coc back up.
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>>122891817
ggg will find a way to thai kick your fun
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>+0.5% base crit chance per power charge
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>>122891645
>you're poor because you don't support ggg

you are fucking stupid

end you'reself
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>>122890485
haha that would be funny but compared to what over the top shit the other classes get it would be pretty bad.
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>A generic Tank Duelist will have permanent (buffed to hell) Fortify by end of Act 3 Cruel
>35% increased Fortify Effect
>That's a 27% total damage reduction that is permanently up
Holy fucking shit.

>BoR Duelist has 100% of their block applied to Spells
>No more Rainbowshits
>>Can actually run Anvil now for up to 78% Block AND Spell Block

Now that I think about it... this does fuck up PoE diversity... it makes builds related to your initial class way better, whereas shit like Cyclone Witch is probably going to become not viable in whatever the "new" end-game is.
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>PoE goes p2p
>zero chinese bots
>no more rmt
>no more lowskill reddit faggots, only good people left
>no more /poeg/ or vg fags because they are 12yo with no money
>finally a good game

one can hope
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>>122892372
>i'm delusional: the post
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>>122892372
Literally none of those things are going away even if it goes p2p. You're such a fucking retard, holy shit, even if this is bait.
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>>122892275
this is a lot better than the current "diversity" where your class choice boils down to what 5 or even less starting nodes you want
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>>122892372
they make more money as a f2p. they have expanded to a larger office with more employees while adding expensive servers all over the world. furthermore paying does fuck all to stop bots. see: WoW, D3, etc.
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>>122892275

exactly my point here >>122889665

yeah you can still use one of many skills compatible with those builds, but only a few playstyles and build combinations will get full benefit of the new shit (and its very much worth to have it, as it looks right now)
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>>122892147
shit means if you go coc you basically HAVE to go shadow now ;_;

>>122892275
yea this
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>>122892275
Yeah not happy about this class shit.

Scion/Templar summoner is not an option anymore.
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>>122889665
ggg is just too stupid to balance 100s of skill gems
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>scion only has one subclass
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>>122892790

w-what if the subclass is Waifu???
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>>122892521
Well, I mean, shit like Bow Marauder is probably not going to get a ring and therefore, Bow Marauder is dead.
Same with BM Flame Totem Marauder, probably.
It honestly depends on final execution.
A good example: Duelist is the Str/Dex hybrid. Dex is either bows or fast attacking melee skills.
Duelist doesn't have any Bow circles. The only circle a Bow Duelist would use is Champion for the Fortify....
Oh god, I just realized that is a new build. Bow Duelist and you take Champion Fortify for the bulk of your defenses since it's automatically active.
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early........................... 2016?
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>>122892727
>Scion/Templar summoner is not an option anymore.
well not all ascended classes for them have been revealed, so we dunno yet. But yeah still it's highly pointing that way.
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>>122892727
>something is not an option
>we don't even fucking know what they get yet
Literally retarded.
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so a hiring a hit on some tor site costs 45k

can we kickstart this shit to get rid of chris?
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>classes finally have a purpose
>wow dewd diz so shit I kand play WAIFU Cyclone nymore ;_;
Fucking pathetic. The current class system has been utter fucking ass for way too long.
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>>122892875
Marauder is sure as hell going to get a lot of survivability stuff, which was the only reason to make Bow or BM FT Marauder in the first place.

Aside from wanting to be a nigger I guess.
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>>122893343
Other targets should be priority.

*hint* Germany *hint*
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>>122893382
>Wanting less diversity, but stronger shit
I get that, but the problem is that it's a step in an unexpected direction. It could be great, it could be awful. It depends on GGG now.
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>>122893063
They had originally said it's going to come immediately after Talisman league, we'll see if that actually happens though
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>>122893545
No you fucking nigger. The current system doesnt promote actual diversity. The only diverse this is the ass youre looking at. Whether you play X build as a Templar or Witch has almost no fucking impact on the build apart from the 5 starting nodes and the looks of your character.

The current system turns the class system into a gigantic blob of nothingness. Theres nothing diverse about it.
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ascendency desu? even the facade of build diversity is now gone? is the world still an illusion, exile? baka desu senpai i guess we're just being selfish
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>>122892147
holy fucking power creep
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>>122893667
>Talisman starts in December
>Expansion at the end of Talisman
>WHY IS IT IN 2016!?
I don't get how some people can't grasp this.
You're good, though.
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>>122893726
dumb catposter
>>
Can Grim Dawn beat this?
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>>122893702
>The current system turns the class system into a gigantic blob of nothingness. Theres nothing diverse about it.

optimal starting points do matter. stats are critical for certain builds, so you really cant pull a 900 str iw caster if you start as shadow, templar could do a hybrid one with ease; the same was as marauder is going to struggle with crit setups, etc

the expansion can potentially reduce even further true diversity, by making certain combinations so strong that a new endgame is balanced around them
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>>122893267
Scion has 1 (One) subclass. She ain't getting 100% increased spectre damage and life m8, she ain't even gonna get 1 minion node.

Templar might get one "minions convert all damage to fire" or some shit that wont ever compare.

>>122893702
>class doesn't matter
>Theres nothing diverse about it.
Quite the opposite. Currently every class can pick up a bow and make it work albeit in very different ways. Theat ain't gonna happen when this expansion hits.
>>
>new content update for 2016
>trade system is still shit
>trade system will be still shit
>trade system will be forever shit

nice game poetards
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>>122894145
>optimal starting points do matter
No one ever said they didnt. It still doesnt change the fact that the current system isnt diverse. If you play a build and 95% of the nodes overlap no matter which of 2 classes you play then thats not diverse. Not in the slightest.

>so you really cant pull a 900 str iw caster if you start as shadow
Nice cherry picking comparing two classes that are on completely different ends of the spectrum. You missed the point entirely. But I didnt expect anything else from someone who unironically implied that the current class system promotes 'diversity'.
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>Overwhelm
>Always stun enemies that are on full life

Are we going to see some pure chaos damage permastun shenanigans here?
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>>122894463
literally this

like holy fuck, fix your fucking game before you add more shit to it
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>>122894087

GD is a completely different game, as its meant to be single player and game econ is balanced for it to be played like that. This has huge implications on how the game feels.

Poe is the complete opposite. D3 is kinda midway, since it supposedly has a global econ but its dont really matter anymore.
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>more gimmick stuff that nobody will give a shit after the first month
>still no trade revamp, chat revamp, guild revamp, particle slider, training dummy, killcam, etc

Whoah guys, upboat if you're hyped xDDD
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>6 points to work with after Merciless Labyrinth
>Soul Weaver is fucking insane
>Gated by Flesh Binder, which is if you are running 10 zombies is a fucking ton of Phys reduction
>Flesh Binder makes mon'Tregul's a nerf because you lose 1% per zombie lost.
>Commander of darkness is alright, not really worth it
>Spirit Eater, 30% damage is alright, unless it stacks, then it's fucking insane, since an Offering eats 8 corpses at a time
>Mistress of Sacrifice is pretty awesome for sustaining Flesh offering in spacious maps
>Beacon of Corruption is easily the best (unless Spirit Eater does stack) for the skeleton suicide puddles plus Minion Instability
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>>122894482
You're too hung up on class.

Diversity is about how many builds are viable, nothing more. If these subclasses have any impact they will limit what each class can do. If they have no impact nothing changed. This idea is shit.
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>>122894482
>If you play a build and 95% of the nodes overlap no matter which of 2 classes you play then thats not diverse. Not in the slightest.

a single build on 2 near starting overlapping nodes means there is no diversity? despites one being able to have an entirely different set of defenses, or skill cost sustain strategy or even different utility notables?

ITs your fault if you try to build cyclone the exact same no matter how you start, bud.
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>>122894790
>GGG making the game the way they want it instead of listening to whining bitches
Thanks Chris.
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>>122894790
>they didn't announce these performance and system changes in a hype page made for the casual user
>must not be happening I hate reddit lel ahhehe kekek ekek top kekkerz0rs

also training dummies are for faggots holy shit just go clear a map.

the "Trade revamp" you want not coming is probably a deliberate design decision. Did Diablo 2 have some inbuilt auction house?
>>122894934
what you call "limit"ing is actually specialization and a good thing because frankly the classes in PoE are pretty goddamn boring and it's been long enough that they've all been the same with different models. QQ you can't theoretically make a dw wand ranger anymore or some shit who cares.
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>>122894790
None of those are even fucking needed. Fuck off already.
>killcam
Are you drunk?
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>>122895024
>performance issues, trade issues, QoL features missing, game balance completely out-of-whack

>anyone who complains is just a whining bitch
>>
Is Deadeye crit EK the new meta now?
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>>122894897
commander of darkness looks pretty neat for those 10 aura support builds.
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>>122895106
>specialization
The opposite of diversity.

I'm glad you're happy about this new content but don't try and play it off as improving diversity.
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>>122895208
Fucking faggot, you know that even if they did all that your first reaction was to come here and complain how none of that matters because they spend their time fixing all that and we still have the same meta. Then bitch about how you're forced to play flame totem and say that you quit the game.

As much as I enjoy shitting on Chris and the rest, don't even fucking pretend like there's winning situation for GGG. Not that anon.
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>>122895106
>Did Diablo 2 have some inbuilt auction house?

can we stop blaming d2 for the lackings in this game?

d2 didnt have mapping system, or forgotten masters, or hideouts

its well past we leave that "if d2 didnt have we dun need it" mentality
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>>122895337
>Just realized Commander of Darkness says "You and your allies"
Ok, yeah. But aren't those usually Scion, not Witch?
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>>122895461
>one subclass
Scion is dead m8
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>>122895456
d2 had pvp tho
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>>122895456
So gameplay features now correlate with the trade options? In what way? He compared trade systems between 2 arpgs. How exactly does PoE having masters or maps somehow links to an auction house? Literally wut
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>>122895208
Performance is a fine, stop playing on a toaster. Trade is not an issue, automating it further will lead to more problems. This is an expansion preview, they're not going to list QoL or game balance in it. But if you don't expect these with every major patch, you're either retarded or a massive newfag.

Most of the stuff people are asking is shit anyways. They complain the game is too hard, they get oneshot, maps are too hard to get, good items are too rare. The game would be faceroll if GGG listened. Glad they don't.

An example of a company that did listen: Blizzard. Look at that messy casual shit they pump out now. It's disgusting.
>>
pretty sure these insane nodes from subclasses are gonna get the unique jewel treatment
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>>122895208
>game balance completely out-of-whack
Game balance dramatically changes literally every .1 patch. I'd reckon you're one of the people who actually complain that skills get nerfed/buffed so drastically when those patches come around.
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>>122895456
The "improvements" to trade a small subset of the community is begging for will literally kill this game.

All PoE needs is cross instance trading. Sure, GGG has talked about asynchronous trading as well but fuck that. If you ain't online you don't get to trade.

Either way, they stated repeatedly that changes to trading isn't gonna be annnounced like this expansion is. When it's done, it gets added.
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>>122895619

trade in poe is intrinsically linked to gameplay even more than it ever was in d2

Even more than it currently is in d3

an auction house would be a gameplay feature benefiting everybody but scammers and rmters
>>
guys with the new shadow crit wheel you can make incinerate get like 4% base crit (or even more with crazy gear)...
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>>122895849
He's one of the people that just want a reason to bitch and whine.
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>>122895461
Both major aura builds that showed up in a google search are witches.
I assume people just pick scion in short leagues because of early convenience, rather than what is stronger in the 80+ level range.
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>>122894897
>Commander of Darkness
>Not worth it
>Not playing a cursing necromancer that runs curse-auras that simultaneously buff your party
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>>122895915
Just remove surgeons already..

>>122895894
An AH would literally make it so you could never afford a single item worth half a turd. An AH would ONLY benefit chinese botters.
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>>122895024
>>122895106
>>122895135
>>122895424
>>122895707

>GGG apologists

So this general became a playground for lebbitors, eh?

>"t-trade system is fine just spam trade chat like everyone else"
>"f-fps is fine here, just don't p-play coc"
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>>122895894
>an auction house
>not benefiting rmters
>not benefiting fucking scammers
Also, a botter's paradise. You're literally fucking retarded. And no, fuck you I had the exact same conversation a bunch of times in this shitty general and the same shit every time of idiots not understanding what an auction house even does. I'm not having it again
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You literally cannot trade in d3. Quit implying you can.
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>>122895707
Performance isn't fine dude
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>>122896012
>Summoner runs Discipline and Hatred usually
>Room for a 25% curse after cost reductions
Maybe, but that's only 1 more instead of Clarity.
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>>122896072
Yeah you aren't in good company anymore oldfag. Please leave, this is shitcrow general now :^)
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>>122896072
it's getting ridiculous. there was actually someone shilling supporter packs about a week ago. disgusting.
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>>122895319
assassin or bust
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>>122896131
good items drop in D3 though
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>>122896072
>"t-trade system is fine just spam trade chat like everyone else"
>trade chat
You haven't actually played the game have you?
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>>122896375
>good items
>in d3
You mean how everything but a handful of legendaries or set pieces are utter trash? Literally. An arpg that has removed the ability to roll BiS rares. Why even fucking play the game then?! Just remove all rng and give static stats like WoW.
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>>122896045
>>122896104

no ah:

>localized offer, localized demand
>price gouging and scamming fueled by lack of an easily accessible, in-game resource that lets you see how much shit is being sold for
>on the bottom end, pricing has to make it worthwhile you leaving whatever you are doing and trade

ah:
>bottom end pricing no longer needs to stop mapping
>globalized offer/demand makes up for fairer transactions all around
>fixed pricing removes the need to haggle

yeah, ah are totttttaly bad
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>>122896664
>yeah, ah are totttttaly bad
yes
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>>122896664
>yeah, ah are totttttaly bad
Glad you at least understand.
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i don't want an AH, but dealing with offline/afk people all day is fucking annoying. i don't have an answer, but my idea is for every player to have an in-game shop where they can set buyouts and set auctions for their items that will get instantly delivered to a separate remove-only tab in the buyer's stash.
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>>122896625
Yeah opposed to PoE where 1/1000 rares are decent
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>>122896971
like Maplestory and shit. I think that's the most important thing, fuckers afking and sleeping when selling shit is annoying as hell. They need to be able to say >if player gives 1c in trade, give *item they requested
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>>122897132
Yes, retard. You have the chance and that's what keeps people playing the game. That's what fucking arpgs are all about, holy shit.
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>>122897132
1/1000 is a pretty decent rate are you autistic how many rares do you think the average player comes across.
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>>122897317
>most items in d3 are shit, only a handful are good
wow this game sucks why not just add stats XDD
>most items in poe are shit, only a handful are good
that's what keeps people playing, that's what fucking arpgs are all about holy shit
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>>122895592
/thread
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>>122897272
>>122896971
What you're asking for is asynchronous trading, something GGG has been talking about adding for 3 fucking years now. They are fucking scared of adding it though so all we have so far is Chris teasing us with "wouldn't it be cool to check and accept offers you've gotten on your phone while at work" and shit like that.

3 fucking years..
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>>122896578

Yeah I sure love to PM offline people from poe.trade.
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>>122897521

kek

i like poe better than d3 but holy shit, some people are just delusionally shilly today
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>>122897363
>10% chance to get a Power Charge on Non-Critical Strike

rip Romira
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>>122897634
>asynchronous trading
shit that is EXACTLY what would be good.

except then there would probably be fags putting their shit for low offers to fuck up prices like now except they'd be tying up your currency as well.

well, it'd be better and people would work around it. I'll be honest I'm kinda new around here but shit, that really does seem like it should be in the game.
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>>122897653
>Mommy I want that item noooow!!
The faster you get your item the faster you'll get bored and quit the game.
I guess an AH really would make the game batter.
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>>122897801
>that really does seem like it should be in the game.
And GGG agrees. Which is why all this crying is retarded.

GGG generally has good ideas. They just have dogshit execution.
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>>122897801

> i want as except for the part where market fluctuations and openness wouldnt let me me overcharge for my shitty uniques as much

this is why it would be good, nig
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>>122897363
>Take a 6% base crit spell
>Just 4 Power Charges raises it to 8%
Holy fucking shit.
>Investing for 2 Void batteries and a Power Charge tree raises that count to 9 or 10 Power Charges if you get +1 more from any source
>10 power charges is 5% base crit
>On a 6% skill means 11% base crit
>10 charges also means 500% increased Crit chance
>10 Charges turns a 6% crit skill into at least 66% crit chance
HOLY FUCKING SHIT.
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>>122897363
>Meme on hit
I'm guessing that one has a chance to bleed enemies that are poisoned when you hit them?
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>>122898094
>implying ggg won't nerf base crit on everything to compensate
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>>122897653
They have said that they will release an API to improve third-party trading. The ability to check online status of a player is supposed to be part of that, and that tidbit of the API was supposedly pretty close to being released. It might be in for Talisman.
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>>122898176
>GGG nerfs Fireball after the Shotgun change
Probably not, but we'll see.
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>>122898176
wouldnt that be like trying to improve the size of your dick by cutting off everyone else's dick?
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>>122897803
or the faster you get back to actually playing the fucking game
>>122897717
I like PoE more too, but to act like D3 has no good ideas to pull from is just stupid. Their itemization isn't the best but it's not the worst.
What makes the game last only a week is that there's no reason to make multiple characters when you can just swap on the fly. They really should've said "at level x, you can no longer swap abilities" once you've gotten a hang of how things work and what would be good
>>122898094
Yeah it's insane. You could get max crit with so little investment
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So is it still a massive pain in the ass to get high level maps or will rng still fuck over my map pool.
This Ascendency shit looks kinda fun, but not if endgame is locked behind dice rolls still.
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>>122898326
>but it's not the worst
Compared to what exactly?
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>>122898329
Here anon let me use my Time Machine to play Ascendancy and tell you how the map drops are.
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>>122898329
Maps are currently working as intended. Do the math.
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And as always, GGG will be a massive cocktease and only release 1 or 2 of the Ascendant classes a week, leaving the Scion for the day before it launches and everyone will cry when it has one path for bows, one path for melee, one path for casting, one path for health, and one path for Energy Shield with no middle ground and just awful nodes.

I just want to know what the rest of the Witch and Templar trees are.
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>>122889665
>d3 invented subclasses

as expected of a blizz fanboy
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>>122898326
>Their itemization isn't the best but it's not the worst.
The only thing worse than D3's current itemization is probably D3's vanilla itemization.
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I'm willing to bet that the reason why Scion only has one subclass is because you unlock subclasses when you reach the starting position of another character.
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>>122899048
her subclass is just gonna be a massive web
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>>122899048
That would be positively fucking retarded, since you lock in your subclass when you complete Normal Labyrinth.
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>>122898935

>literally making shit up

how you are to infer that from my post is beyond me, but d3 is what poe is most often compared to, and distinguishes from.
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>>122889665
>actually thinks that was something d3 original or that is a feature in d3
You couldn't be this new if you were born yesterday.
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>>122899169
again, see >>122899149

if you 2 are ggg interns doing damage control, focus on explaining how >>122898094
or >>122892275 will be countered by new endgame mechanics instead
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>>122894897
>mistress of sacrifice
lol SRS
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>>122892372
huuuuhhh, wut?

have you ever played wow? this is not how it works
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>>122893343
that's like trying to kill Milka Cow because you dont like the chocolate.

In which case you are a horrible being with no taste and please remove yourself from the planet
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well GGG definitely delivered with a ton of interesting dynamic skill changes but lets see if they can actually balance it
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>>122899436
Oh hey, thanks for posting to both of my Holy Fucking Shit posts.
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>>122899735
>everything gets huge buffs
>to compensate for that, we nerfed every skill across the board and increased monster damage by 100%
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>>122899735
>balance

As long as more than one build per class can clear endgame shit with alright gear it's fine.
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>>122899735
>if they can actually balance it
i fear the blandness that will result in them balancing with mirrored std econ in mind

i hope they will just be willing to accept std perma is fucked and will never ever be right again
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>>122899149
ah, I see how I misunderstood. however, I dont think specialization subclasses will make weird builds non-existant.

They will still exist, they just wont be part of the OPOP shit. I know I myself will at least still do them, and I bet I will be able to take advantage from 1 or more subclasses one way or another.
I think this is more of a case about caring what others have instead about what you have. as long as they dont implement horrendous nerfs into the base tree, Im not scared.
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>>122900101
i thought they strived to balance around the leagues
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>>122900013
>to compensate for that, we nerfed every skill across the board and increased monster damage by 100%
Of course that's going to happen. Or do you seriously want to faceroll everything?

If anything, the game should be made more difficult.
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>>122900037
At the least, there will be 3 per class, except Scion. Duelist is definitely going to feature some insanity with those 2nd and 3rd trees.
It's going to be a big tossup across the board.
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does whispering ice get good damage?
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>>122900538
No but do you realize how much this kills diversity?
I don't want to faceroll shit, that's boring. But these buffs are just too good to the point where GGG will nerf everything (like they have in the past) so only the few skills/builds that were good are now the ONLY things that are good
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so what is blind going to be a thing now?
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>thinking your character's OP now

>thinking there won't be new bosses mechanics that reduce your max block chance if you get hit by it
>thinking there won't be bosses/map mods that can remove all your charges
>thinking crit immunity won't exist
>thinking there won't be rogue exiles that have the exact same OP shit as you do and kill you off screen by penetrating all your resist with a crit
Have fun HC players.
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So with those ascended classes, I guess most Bow user not using the ranger class wish they did
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>>122900867
idk famz that seems like a lot of work. hard to believe they could release it in early 2016. we'll probably have to deal with another 6 months of delays to be honestly honest
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>>122900525
no, or skills like cleave, ground slam, ice shot, and many others would not exist in its current state
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>>122901053
im ok with 1 expansion per year and 3 smaller ones desu
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>>122900965
The shadow's crit ascendancy nodes are too good to pass up

but yeah this kinda kills all the janky builds like Templar/Marauder bow user
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>>122901617
u're underestimating their greedyness

we will have a 2-3month p2p beta every year before each expansion and new cashgrab gimmicks like divination cards that will further dillute the game into an extraordinary mess as the years go by
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i'm about to take a shit

i need some dank tunes pls
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>>122900865
They're trying to make mines work. Trying.
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>>122901905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY
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>>122902056
they could like just make them throwable like traps tbqfh
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>>122900538
This mindset is why 2.0 is Path of Totems. Damage is already too high to allow anything except the safest builds to reach mid maps.

Monster life is what should be buffed.
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really guys, how's whispering ice's damage? similar to firestorm or what?
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>>122902518
yeah ohko's can go fuck themselves, raise monster EHP.

totems and life nodes are so fucking boring.
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>>122902576
it's good

less damage than firestorm but safer and more visibility

if you don't have a NASA supercomputer the chilled ground will lag you
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>>122902746
seems really appealing since i like the playstyle of firestorm, with it's constant movement. i can only assume single target damage on it is sufficient?
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>>122903098
dude find out for yourself jesus christ
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Just wanted to say: Thank you GGG for making this possible! This is truly the most hyped moment of my life!

This announcement really hyped me up, and i think that it will make me play this game for the next many years. This clearly shows that GGG knows what the community wants, and that they listen. I will continue to support this amazing game, and i really appreciate you guys at GGG. -You are truly the best devs ever!
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>>122903193
You're welcome.
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>>122903171
that's kind of impossible considering I don't have the staff or the currency to buy it yet.

would you rather i bring up statue vaginas? if you don't want to talk about the game fuck off to /v/
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>>122903193
>no fun allowed you have to be a bitter angry faggot about every little thing because you spend 16 hours a day playing PoE
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>>122903193
hi chris
>>122903294
I'd rather you go to reddit where they will bother with your retarded questions. You're not talking about the game at all you're just being annoying.
I mean at the very least start begging for handfeeding when you can buy the item in question
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>four biggest previous woes
>dead maps with no traps
>desync
>classes aren't unique
>boring skills

It's like GGG knows what I want. Create interesting skills specifically for certain subclasses and we have a 9/10 ARPG
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>>122903487
There's basically no information on whispering ice anywhere. How is it wrong to ask a game related question in a general that is for that game?

Quit being a cunt.
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>>122903487
fuck off cunt
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>/vg/ is full of redditors
Hiro please nuke this place
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>mfw lebbiturds expect poeg to spoonfeed them
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>>122903487

fuck off to reddit you piece of shit, at least he is talking about the game
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>>122903727
The person bitching about "spoonfeeding" is the one linking to reddit

Not a surprise that he's retarded as fuck, considering he doesn't even know anything about whispering ice kek
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>>122903606
There's a wiki, a fuckhuge forum, and a reddit. If you can't be bothered to use a search function you're a fucking retard.
>>122903679
>>122903731
no you fuck off. He's not talking about the game
>guys is this good?
>guys seriously is this good??
>how good is this? is it bad?
Go back to reddit where they might spoonfeed you with some giant lengthy paragraph. Or better yet just use the resources available
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I like that classes are actually going to have to identity now. maybe there will be an actual reason to be a duelist
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>>122903913
It's like you can't even read. Just stop.
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>>122904017
It's like you can't even read. Just stop.
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>>122904017
>>122904091
Get a room and fuck.
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>>122903913
nigger just respond to hist first post with "I don't know, ask somewhere else" and let this thread 404 like it usually does.
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>>122903913
reddit will always answer, but it'll come from some mentally deficient shitcore player who's never been above lvl60

which just reinforces the fact that everybody should research everything for themself. this doesn't just apply to poe, it also applies to life
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>>122904091
No I mean you actually aren't even reading the posts you are replying to. It's sad that you attempt to maintain any sort of discourse while retaining such ineptitude.
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>>122904189
This as fuck. Serious autistic shit going on here, people getting mad at game discussion. This ain't a general for e-celebs and troveposting.
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>>122904256
It's okay you won't see my posts on reddit, you'll be happier
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>>122901865
Chris said all the content of the expansion is done at this point, there wont be no beta, only alpha. And from now on all they will do is testing/tweaking/balancing
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>>122905140
I don't think you understand what "beta" and "alpha" mean in software development.

alpha is content/engine implementation
beta is tweaking, testing, and minor bug squashing
gamma is a full release
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>>122905371
well I think for chris it means "internal" "public/invite" and "release"
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>>122894463
>I haven't played poe for so long that I forgot the trade system is still literally nothing
>was hype
>this post
my tears are numerous
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So.. niche builds will be completely fucked over. Oh well.
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>>122906319
>playing in a way GGG didn't intent/didn't want you to
it's your fault m8
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>>122906319
>>122907060

Why the fuck isn't my bow WW barbarian viable? Fuck Blizzard North!
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>>122906313
sacrifice of the vaal was the best patch 2bh

invasion was so hard
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>>122907060

Hey I enjoyed the autistic freedom of wasting 10 nodes to make a build with a different starting character. No more I guess
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>>122907976
wew who this is maiden
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Are they going to disable movement skills in the labyrinth? I mean lightning warp kinda invalidates the idea of a trap room
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>>122908194

the promo shows someone using one of them to aviod traps, so i doubt it
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so what's the limit on these ascendant trees? can't you eventually just get the whole thing after enough runs through these tests? now way, right?
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>>122908952
You get 2 points per difficulty, and you can only pick 1 of the 3 specializations
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>>122908952
You get 2 points each time you FIRST complete the Labyrinth on each difficulty.
Subsequent runs are for loot and Xp if it's any good.
And a chance at a spot on the day's leaderboard.
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>>122909202
>>122909392
gotcha
>>
Since Ascendancy dropped,
>you can add 1 thing to the expansion
>you can remove 1 thing from the expansion
>You can add 1 MTX.
Let's hear 'em.
>>
>update drops mid 2016
>ww3 on the way, you get drafted to win france and germany back from isis/russia/china
>cant even play hc overseas with shitty warship internet ping
>get blown up by a russian drone submarine before you reach l90

nice game poetards
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Is there any way ascendancy can be balanced?
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>>122909807
my old man actually thinks this is the beginning of ww3 and that i'll get drafted

kek
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>>122909707
>Add
Templar subclass: Crusaydah
>x% more damage vs Undead
>Slain monsters rest in peace

>Remove
Rory
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>>122909707
Add: Auction House

Remove: The absurd damage of shit from the new content that you know will be present.

MTX: Transmogs from D3
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>>122909707
Auction House
Meh. It seems okay.
Cats When Damage Taken
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>>122909936
you should recite the speech at the beginning of MGS4
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>>122909707
>>you can add 1 thing to the expansion
>>you can remove 1 thing from the expansion
I'll use of both of these to nerf overall damage, increase average mob HP, and add more mobs with meaningful resistances.

>You can add 1 MTX.
Different base character models, prices depending on how much work put into them.
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>>122910443
i dont play meme games so i have no idea what youre talking about
>>
>>122909707
>you can add 1 thing to the expansion
'waller' enemies from D3
>you can remove 1 thing from the expansion
hard to say but the shield node and the power charge node seem wayyyy too strong
>You can add 1 MTX.
permanent skin transfer - you can use the skin multiple times over
>>122910515
>i dont play meme games
if you play PoE, yes you do
>>
E A R L Y 2 0 1 6
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>>122910702
poe isn't a meme game
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>>122911086
lOL
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>>122908150
Prosecutor general of the republic of crimea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ZWmHGCcEQ

She's pure, married and has a daughter, DO NOT sexualize the prosecutor general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX4JCQViRKg
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>>122911167
the meme level of a game is determined by the correlative normie population which is inversely proportional to the amount of memes that you will see being used in the game

statistics show that poe players use approximately 10^4 more memes than MGS4 players so therefore it isn't a meme game, comparatively speaking
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>>122911823
>Game memes more than MGS4
>"I-it's not a meme game, guys!"
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>>122912582
correct

this is because of the intrinsic contrarian nature of anyone who is true to their memes. quality over quantity
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>>122912840
nice meme
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>>122909707
>add trade system
>remove Dan

>make-your-equipment invisible MTX
>>
At least we are alive now.
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>>122913712
>69 IPs
>Alive
Okay.
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>>122913712
yeah for like 1 day or so. Then back to ded till talisman starts
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>>122899114
this
>>
>all these spergs yelling about shitty trade system
>the only solutions they come up with are highly beneficial to scammers/botters/chinks
I honestly dont care for trading anymore because mastercrafting and div cards basically removed the 90% of the need to.
Also self found is more rewarding to be honest desu.
>>
>>122913885
>7 posts per person by 70 different people in just over 24 hours

/vg/ is just a shitty board and people don't want to be here
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>>122914612
Tbh, I enjoy being here. It's the closest I get to having friends.
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>>122914343
>div cards

kek
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>>122914785

/poeg/ is the closest i have to a gf
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>>122915291
bf*
There are no women here.
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>>122914937
Its quicker and less boring than farming lake/maps 24/7 to get the currency to trade for <insert t1 unique>.

Grinding a kaoms heart from ledge in under 7 hours was the most fulfilling thing I did all darkshrine.
>>
Raider looks broken as fuck. Frenzy build or just gaining onslaught looks so amazing.
>>
>>122915575
i have five death rushes in hc desu from invasion league
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>>122914612
I have way more than 7 posts desu
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0-8 eat and masturbate
9 actually play poe
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>>122916789
good luck senpai.
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>>122916789
fuck
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>>122916789
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>>122915332
but lots of feminine men
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>>122917662
Why can't Talisman get here already so I can stop reading shitposts, stop shitposting, and actually play PoE.
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>>122916789
rekt
>>
>>122916869
>>122917252
>>122917892
i did one map. that's good enough. back to masturbicating
>>
Haven't played in a while, is there a list of the big gamechangers since, like, Sacrifice?
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>>122919058
>Since SoTV
Ok, uhm...
Forsaken masters, adds a bunch of Masters to give you a hideout you can decorate to your heart's content, plus missions and shit.
Strongboxes are permanent.
Then there was the big 2.0 update. Added Act 4, a bunch of new uniques and skills, etc.
Torment and Bloodlines League came and left, Tormented Spirits, ghosts you force to run away from you into monster for more loot, and Bloodlines, think those Special mods on Rares, but for blue mob packs.
Oh yeah, Forsaken masters brought Rampage and Beyond. When that left, Beyond was kept as a map mod that can bring monsters from beyond this world to ours.

Skill tree updates, etc. etc. Darkshrine is currently running, which adds shrines you can sacrifice rare rare loot to for various effects.
Darkshrine is staying, too.
Next is the Talisman league starting in early December, 20 days from now or so?
In Q1 next year, we get the next major Expansion, which you can read about here.
https://www.pathofexile.com/ascendancy

There's probably some shit I forgot.
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>>122919643
you sure mentioned a lot of things about masters but not the crafting
>>
>>122919643
oh wait yeah I remember playing since they added Masters, for some reason I thought that was before Sacrifice.

So I didn't miss much otherwise then?
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>>122921597
Act 4, some challenge league, some skills, not much. Also, unless you are really good at the game or running Flame Totem, you will much more than likely need to party for the end of Act 4.
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>>122921726
In general or in merciless?
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>>122921726
is soloing just not a thing anymore then?
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>>122921858
merc

>>122921868
not for those bosses/sustaining higher tier maps
it's exponentially easier with a couple other people.
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>>122921959
well that sucks, I like soloing. I had a Flame totem Scion so I guess that's still viable.
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>>122869003
i just did this. i don't advise it
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D
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>>122925720
I
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A
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P
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E
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ZZ Top
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>>122898329
Buy maps you retard. how can you not understand this
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>>122926412
why should i have to buy maps? fuckin ggg cant do anything right
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>>122926412
>buy maps

so then, how do people sell maps without doing them?
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When should I add a crafted mod, before or after regal ?
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>>122927329
If it only has 1 mod and you don't want any specific suffix, go ahead and put multimod and Regal.
If there is a suffix roll you want, Regal, then multimod/scour.
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>>122927262

they group up and pool maps
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>>122928105
I thought that was already normal once you get beyond like t4.
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>>122928105
its normal for people who play with others. groups of 4+ can easily get to a point where you are just printing currency, but you spend most of on high tier maps anyway
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what the fuck is a valued poster
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>>122928689
probably a girl

girls get special privileges because they are oppressed by the patriarchy
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>>122928689
the opposite of a shitposter
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>Ascendancy has brought the guru himself back to streaming PoE

Why aren't you watching?
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>>122930859
>TSM Kripp Lets Make Some Sweet Decks! Kripp Shirts = http://www.designbyhumans.com/shop/Kripp/ (‿)(‿)
excuse me?
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>>122930859
because i wasnt born after 1999
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>>122930859
im the one that reported him to the lebbit admins and had him removed as moderator

why would i watch his stream
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>>122931153
just tab back to the game hans
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am I doing it right?
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>>122931610
you can stop now, I'm finished
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that trailer shows the game running faster than 30fps what the fuck false advertising GGG
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>>122931727
i'd like to know the specs of their test machine so i could copy it
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>>122931727
My game runs at a smooth and creamy 60 FPS.
It's you, not them.
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>>122931781
yeah it runs mostly like that for solo players

try joining a 5 man group and see your 60 fps dip to 15
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>>122932018
>playing with CoC and Discharge faggots
Perhaps you should think about not playing with retards.
Also,
>trailer videos are solo
>asks why it's higher than 30 FPS
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>>122930859
who
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>>122931610
based
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>>122932147
>CoC and Discharge faggots

More like literally any skill that has a ground/aoe effect or heavy on particles aka half the skills in the game i.e. crit shit with HoI, PA, 4 spellcasting niggers flamedashing or incinerate, flame totems etc etc
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ppl itt think everybody wont still be playing cyclone, srs and flame totems in 2.1

lmao 2bh
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>>122933685
>he thinks ggg won't gut any and every current fotm skill next patch

dumb catposter
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>>122933685
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DUMB CATPOSTER
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>>122933803
except PA
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>>122887314
Here I thought I would get a new GPU to play POE now.
Guess I will delay that.
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>>122933685
srs might still be good post-nerfbat with the withc ascendant tree thing
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>>122934441
PA was indirectly nerfed by not stacking with new new passives and shit.
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>>122928997
:3c
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>>122889726
Won't that be balanced because you still die to reflect?
Yeah, PoE is this kind of game.

>>122933685
Flame Totems will still be the safest of the safest of the safest totems.
Eh
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>so bored that you're watching projectpt
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>>122935164
kys
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SCION SUBCLASS REVEALED!

>merchantress
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>>122935594
Not even looking without a linked (new) news post.
It's 3 months or so until release and 9 not shown subclasses.
I'm expecting one every 10 days or so.
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>>122935963
I looked; there's nothing.
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>>122936071
>Thanks for being braver than I, Anon.
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w-what
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>>122937236
welcome to softcore anon
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>>122937236
It's full of spiders. Open with caution.
But you'll get a free Unique out of it. Maybe a Bino's.
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>>122937236
literally nothing: the box
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Who should get the totem specialty, Templar or Marauder?
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>>122937576
witch feet
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W-WHAT
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>>122937773
>>122937372
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>>122937773
thanks for liking and subscribing to my blog
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what 2.1 build could work while using two perandus rings, two supreme truth and a chitus apex?
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>>122939105
Incinerate, Incinerate Totem
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>>122939449
thank you
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>no way theres >20 monsters remaining
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>>122933685
SRS will always find a way. And Cyclone would still be good simply because of the mechanics, it feels so fucking smooth to play. Flame Totem, good riddance.
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>this fucking pathing
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>>122941479
>hreeee they didn't path optimally in a promotional video where they have unlimited skill points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>122941572
they also play like retards and die all the time, all this in an attempt to make unsuspecting people think that this game isn't about grabbing life nodes and using 1 skill to kill enemies
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>>122941395
I was just beginning leveling a flame totem which. should I abandon her for now?
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>>122942735
will it matter? No, you'll be playing on the newest temp league anyways.
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>>122942735
The expansion is mostly likely for july 2016

you have time enough to hit level 100
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>>122941479
fuck did they do to aspect of the eagle?
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>>122942735
> which.
oh god I'm retarded.

>>122942780
>temp league
is it going to be good? I'll probably play a perm sc toon for a little bit just to experience the content before making a decision on what I'd play in the new temp.

>>122942804
most of my free time goes into football manager, so I probably won't get her beyond high 80s.
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>>122903684
ofc its full of redditors you dumbfuck, literally all discussion happens there and even the devs go there and actually interact with the people.

I honestly don't know why anybody is here.
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Why the hell did they have to announce new expansion now just before talisman is starting.
People will just see it as another filler league before the real stuff and it will be dead within 1 week.
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>>122942921
looks interesting but a bit boring
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to the fags whining about "muh diversity"
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I just saw someone mention some shit about javelins. Where are spears and javelins? We need more weapon types, shit.
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>>122943614
this to be honest family
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>>122944912

>y-you can still build for strictly weaker class/build combinations!!

go home chris, youre fat
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Did Shavronne ever get dialogue?
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>>122944912
>muh diversity
>muh 5 starting points

It was never a thing.

I honestly can't wait to berate people for not starting Shadow as a crit build 2bh family.
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>levelling a cast on crit bow character

Wow this is awful, why did I think this was a good idea?
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>>122946078
She says

"fuk u niggexile i smash u"

and when she dies shes says

"fuk a nigga like a DMX"
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Dominos, Atziri, Malachai, and Izaro get thrown into a room.

Who comes out alive?
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>>122946497
They all just end up gangbanging Atziri's quad tits.
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>>122946497
Atziri, the others would rape themselves with reflect aoe dmg.
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>>122946497
Trick question, there's still one titty left.
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>>122946357
>not going deadeye for free pierce and +1 projectile
shaking my head to be honest family
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>>122946545
>>122946571
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>>122946497
>not Piety

up your game
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Is it true that desynch got fixed?
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>>122948962
Yes
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>>122944912
>2x Fertile Minds
>Gladiator spec
Step aside bowlist, the time of the wandlist is now
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Did they even change the regular skill tree? Can't see any changes.
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>>122950028
yeah they changed stuff around for shadow/ranger. Rest seems to be the same
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>>122950681
>sword block chance reduction cluster removed
>bleed cluster moved to its former place
>some unidentified new cluster is on bleed cluster's former place
from here >>122941479

also blast cascade and chaos/dot cluster got moved to witch area
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>>122946425
Don't do CoC unless you're like lvl 50-60 and/or nicely funded with high crit gear.
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>>122950028
For 2.1 they made changes in the right side. I wouldn't say anything for the expansion. Literally anything could change until release.
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>>122944912
Does this finally mean i can make a fireball Ranger?Since many of Deadeye's bonuses are for projectiles :^).
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>>122951840
main issue here is that levelling a bow character is terribly boring, I just switched to meginords/facebreaker cyclone and its much better.
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>player portrait is replaced with ascendance class background art

neat
guess im going to be playing whatever subclass art looks the coolest rather that what is functionally good.
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PT is talking about how ascension trees shouldn't be locked to classes and you get to choose 1 of the 19 no matter your class or they are linked to certain point of the tree, you can travel to them as any class and it locks after you choose one.

Why isn't this the case? What's the point of locking them to class choice?
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>>122952054
class identity. its not a bad thing.
I think its nice to actually have a reason to play duelist. never had that option before because marauder and ranger starting nodes have always been better.
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>>122951935
coc is shit with bows, just use a wand you dip.
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>>122952167
But muh quill rain.
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>>122952250
>5% crit
>coc
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>>122952312
Nigga I shit out so many barrage shots per second it barely even matters.
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>>122952160
I agree, but the ascension trees look soooooooooo fucking good that you're forced to play as a certain class for pretty much every build. You can do class identity with less powerful nodes.
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>tfw ranger has shaved armpits on the official ascendancy art
Bullshit.
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This is probably a stupid question because I don't know shit about "PoE meta", but is tank Marauder viable?
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>>122953238
Viable? Sure. Efficient? If you play Cyclone.
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>>122952749
We need to get some feminazis to get mad about it so GGG has to fix it for leddit cred.
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>>122956226
Two memes in one.
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>>122952747
There's nothing wrong with being forced into a class for a build. It's like trying to justify playing spell caster duelist (which hilariously, a melee witch is more viable than spell caster duelist).
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post yfw projectpt has been crying about 2.2 for 4 hours straight
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>>122957452
>caring about streamers
>worse yet, caring about PoE streamers
lmao
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>>122957783
you didnt post yfw :(((
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>>122956617
Nigger, you picked the most retarded example and went with it. It's like saying Totem Ranger. We're talking about when there's a realistic chance. For example, you'll never play a summoner that isn't Witch now, when Scion easily worked and even templar. Don't pick the extremes and think that justifies your position.
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>>122957931
realistic choice* not chance.
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>>122957931
we still don't know the ascended class for scion or 2 for templar, maybe they still have some summoner shit going on. But yeah more niche builds (try a bow duelist) are pretty much fucked
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>>122958086
bow duelist wouldn't even be that bad, you could get permanent fortify this way
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>>122958510
perm fortify with point blank and iron reflexes
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>>122958086
>>122957931
While Witch is definitely "the summoner" now, the Inquisitor sub class already shown for templar "could" work as a summoner of sorts.

Get Auger of Penitence for aura goodness and Sanctify and go in and slap shit to create consecrated ground to keep you and your minions healthy and possibly even apply bleed for your bloodlusted zombies.

It's comparatively worse than before but it could work.
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>>122958775
I'm gonna do this with shrapnel shot
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Hey guys so a question who likes to look good in mmos. Is there any type of client mod or dat swap type thing where I can use MTX armor over my armor even tho its just visible to me? I can't really justify spending $30 on a armor skin.
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>>122959739
someone who likes*
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>>122959739
Modifying client files is bannable.

If you're vain and poor just stick to skin tranfers. They go on sale every now and then. There are some good looking 3d skins on some uniques.
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post yfw scion's ascendancy is being able to put 2 points into 3 different ascendancy classes
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Hey guys, I run self-found only and I recently found a (non-legacy) BoR; I also have a stone of lazhwar. Even with the nerfs, BoR seems pretty decent. I was thinking of making an armour/evasion character using both items, sword/axe and shield, maxing out endurance charges (at least via the tree and Oak) and going for a lot of block nodes.

I made up a tree and it looks pretty decent. My only question is whether to go for cyclone or reave. I will be picking up the +2 weapon range node near Duelist, so cyclone with a rapier will have a lot of range. I could just as easily go reave with a sword or axe, though. I have played reave before and liked it; never did a lot with cyclone but I know it's popular.

Thoughts? What are the relative advantages of each?
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>>122966551
>reave with axe
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>>122966678
If I was going Reave I would use a sword. I'm saying my build allows me to go either sword or axe without much change to the tree.
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>>122966798
way to miss the point family
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>>122966798
Oh wait, I did say 'reave with a sword or axe'. That was a brain fart. Most likely I'm using a sword regardless; axe is an option for cyclone if I want to nerf my own AoE radius for some reason. Reave is not affected by weapon range, right?
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>>122951852
No seriously,would it work?Free chaining or piercing isn't bad either.
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>>122969883
likely no because most deadeye's bonuses apply only to attacks
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>>122964272
kek
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>>122970270
Well,if you go for Ricochet (chaining+1) the only thing that doesn't affect you is the atk.speed,the damage is for projectiles so it should work (in theory).I'm not talking about making an uber HC build,but it might've been fun to mess around in SC a bit with it.
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>>122966903
>Reave is not affected by weapon range, right?
It's not
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>>122969883
>Free chaining or piercing isn't bad either.
It is for Fireball. It doesn't explode when chaining or piercing.
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>>122972215
O-Oh...fug.Any other non-trash projectile spell?
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>>122973230
EK with free chains mite b cool
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hourly shitpost quota
poe is beyond saving
also GGG killed talisman before it even started
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chris here. i love the memes here. they're pretty dank. i like how you guys pick on reddit too. i hate reddit. i think anyone with a double-digit IQ does to be honest. anyway, keep up the good work.
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>>122978476
>i want to believe
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>comk gets huge buffs
>its still utter shit
lMAo
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>>122972215
The flat damage on fireball isn't bad. Before they killed casters, I ran a crit fireball gmp pierce build. Pierce cleared faster than relying on the explosions since you'd be able to clear out an entire pack in one cast.
It was worse than flameblast, but so was just about everything else so there's that.
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Will 2.2 bring back /poeg/'s finest players?
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>>122979561
>implying i anime
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>>122979561
more like /poeg/'s finest memers
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>>122979435
>Before they killed casters
Casters are fine, but Fireball is total ass from lvl 1 until LMP for packs, always ass for bosses, and begins to be ass again around lvl 60 something.

I'm hoping 2.1 and Ascendancy (Fireball Jewel and subclasses, respectively) will fix it and I can fix my Fireball Witch. If that's a bust, crit Fireball Shadow will be a walking fucking apocalypse.
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>>122979561
It will bring hundreds of idiots spamming the threads with their shitty builds and theory crafting that will turn into thousands of posts arguing over how their special elemental wander duelist with 48% life, no damage, and ridiculous pathing isn't shit and even more posts asking of mechanics that would take them seconds to find the answer to with google.
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>>122980285
It's almost like Global chat!
Srsly though, out of everything I've seen in the Subclasses list so far, the only thing not insanely overpowered is Saboteur and Deadeye.
Saboteur because it's something trappers/miners needed desperately and Deadeye because it's mostly some loose damage you could get elsewhere and utility (Pierce, Chain, extra projectile.)
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>>122980285
>implying taryn's shitter
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>>122980602
people always seem quick to judge what's OP and UP for content that isn't even released yet
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Juggernaut has to be the worst of the Ascendency previews, Unbreakable and Unflinching are the only points worth a fuck
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>>122980821
it's pretty easy to judge when you're an experienced player 2bh

you have to get enough defenses first, which takes a lot of points, and then you can get damage. whichever build does the most damage with the least investment will be the best
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>>122980234
fireball is absolutely fine right now, you just have to get all the aoe you can
that's why I'm doing a fireballer in 2.1, the aoe with threshold jewels is gonna be ridiculous
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God I sure hope the templar has a ascendancy node that allows to overconvert dmg so conversion attacks make sense.
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>>122980285
>>122980919
nigger unrelenting adds 5% of fortify-like resist to elements. thats pretty good
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>>122980747
>implying it won't be an atziri only drop
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>>122980821
>Comparing the circles between each other
>This is CLEARLY not worse because the shit's not out yet.
If they change it, then this is true. But as is, Deadeye is almost exclusively utility, which doesn't kill shit faster or keep you alive. The only damage is the Pierce node, Far Shot, and the minor nodes.
Whereas shit like Necromancer has 100% increased Spectre damage.
Slayer: can literally stand there dealing damage and never die because of that insane leech buff with Heavy Strike on top of it, which will randomly deal double damage.
Assassin: fucking capped crit with so little investment is insane.
Etc. you get the point. Deadeye and Saboteur are weak comparatively.
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>>122981524
>Assassin: fucking capped crit with so little investment is insane.
you missed the part where ggg reduces all base crit to 2-4%
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>>122981782
>comparing circles between each other
>ggg reduces all base crit to 2-4%
Unless I see a GGG post stating this, it doesn't enter my mindframe for comparing what we DO have.
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>>122981782
>we think critting more than once an hour will be too much for players to handle
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so is there gonna be a pirate subclass?

thats the only thing thatd make come back
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>>122982497
Ranger, Marauder, or Scion might. We don't know cause there's 9 things we haven't seen yet.
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>>122982010
you don't think they will just buff all the shit, do you? they will just nerf everything to oblivion so that there's no way you can make a build work without picking a particular subclass
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>>122981012
>fireball is absolutely fine right now
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>>122982874
>I haven't played a fireball build since god knows when
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>>122982970
played it in tempest

i am sure that if you're trying to play aoe fireball that you're not running anything 77+ because it doesn't work against larger packs
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>>122982640
>they will just buff all the shit, do you?
GGG has been all about pushing everything up for a while.
It honestly depends on what they do between now and 2.2.
Until I see what they decide to do, my opinions (hint) are based on what is currently known.
Speculation about buffs and nerfs are for flightless birds who want to bring everyone down. Have fun.

I am going to enjoy Fireball in 2.1.
Can't decide between AoE or Conc. Effect, though. Pierce/chain is a definite must.
Also, didn't they say way back in 2.0 Beta that with the shotgun nerf, they were making it so that Fireball exploded each time it hit a mob, irrelevant if it pierces/chains or not?
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>>122983115
I cleared 78s just fine
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>>122983690
what the fuck are your links if you're running pierce/chain and aoe/conc
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>>122944912
Even if the ascendant classes make up for more diversity, they will kill it, Don't you remember what happened with jewels?
Instead of making them a nice addition they nerfed the tree and some uniques, while most jewels they added were boring/shit and hardly game changing, and left the good ones out of the game.
So either they buff the shit out of monsters, meaning a handful of builds can survive them while clearing cotnent efficiently, or nerf the tree , railroading you into certain build to have an effective build
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>>122984187
>In 6L Mantle+ Consuming Dark
Fireball, LMP/GMP, Echo/FC, AoE/Conc, Pierce/Chain, Added Chaos/Crit Chance/Crit Damage
depending on point in time and gearing.

Still messing with it on my Standard Witch.
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>>122984638
>projectiles never explode
>use gems that modify aoe and area damage
well done retard
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>>122984412
Actually not dumb otter poster? Oh god why.
>>
i am immune to hype. i know ggg will find some way to ruin our fun. four years of experience has taught me this.
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>>122983690
>Speculation about buffs and nerfs are for flightless birds who want to bring everyone down. Have fun.
Isn't 2.0 enough proof for you?
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>>122984638
literally wasting a link if you modify aoe while using pierce/chain

how do you generate power charges without pcoc
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>>122984779
>Conc. is the one I use atm waiting for the 2.0 change where Fireball explodes each time it hits
>Inc. AoE is the one I use early on for pack clear.
>I would permanently swap to Inc. AoE if they "fixed" the Explosion change.
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>>122984412
I never understood these posts...
Stop thinking in meta terms ffs.

Everything is currently viable and pushable to safely do end-game content.
The EXCEPTIONS are pure evasion/dodge character and elemental hit.

Of course if you are someone that goes for MIN-maxing not certain ideas but the very best that is available well THEN you are pidgeon holed into meta builds. And that are only a few...

But there'll always be stronger and weaker builds. But both of them are totally viable defensive wise. the only difference in gameplay being the clearspeed.
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>>122984412
> railroading you into certain build to have an effective build
meant certain subclass to have an effective build. I'm too tired to shitpost properly
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>>122984923
conc gives you no damage you fucking idiot because fireballs don't explode when they pierce/chain
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Holy fuck, Null's Inclination is so much fun. This build has been the most fun I've had in PoE all year.
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>>122984891
Curse on Hit Herald of Thunder Ass Mark.
Once we get Blasphemy, that over HoT.
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>>122985073
Fireball itself Carries the AoE tag. I have spent hours spewing fireballs with and without Conc. in maps. Conc. improves my output noticably.
The projectile gets the buff even if it doesn't AoE explode.
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are we still troveposting
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>>122985213

no. only the explosion is aoe and takes damage from conc

if you are looking at the tooltip, thats the explosion part
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>>122985213
frenzy has both melee and bow tags, yet melee damage doesn't apply when you're using a bow and vice versa
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>>122985431
>projectile has 100% pierce chance
>projectile tooptip doesn't change when Conc. equipped, so can't look at tooltip.
>clear speed increase by around 25-30% with Conc. versus without.

This wouldn't even be up for debate if they just added the Explosions Each Time It Hits Change they promised back in 2.0 Beta.

>>122985418
Troveposting you say...
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>>122985027
Dunno, I tried a mirror arrow summoner in the 1m league and it was fun.
Another thing that annoys me, I wanna look for some build that's doesn't involve the meta skills, and all I see is "incinerate, totems, incnerate incinerate". Fine I will make my own build, ask for advice and get mostly ignored, few useful replies, others are "lol why would you use x it sucks".
Also another problem I have with this fucking patch is the inviability of traps.
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>>122985634
>>clear speed increase by around 25-30% with Conc. versus without.

snake oil, anon

its trivially easy to test, if you really want to do it
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>>122985817
I know that pain. I used to run GMP Fireball Trap and GMP Vaal Fireball Trap
It was fun as fuck, but then they changed Shotgunning and how multiple projectiles affects V. Fireball and V. Spark.

It was a real trapper and it was fun.
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>>122985634
confirmation bias: the post
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>>122983690
>Also, didn't they say way back in 2.0 Beta that with the shotgun nerf, they were making it so that Fireball exploded each time it hit a mob, irrelevant if it pierces/chains or not?
No
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>>122985418
based
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>>122985875
>It's trivially easy to test, if you really want to do it
>Just did it last month
K.
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>trying to find that pic of the unique bow that gives extra siege ballistas
>cant find it
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>>122987163
It's on the site you fucking retard.
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>>122985634
>projectile tooptip doesn't change when Conc. equipped, so can't look at tooltip.
That's because conc eff only affect fireball when it explodes and deals area damage. The tooltip can't know if the fireball will explode so it can't account for modifiers to area damage.
>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/39861#p540683
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>>122987314
Seen it. Also, you're agreeing with me. So why bring it up?
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>>122987259
no it's not

there's just the bow that gives chain

im pretty sure the bow im talking about is fake
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>>122987889
chain bow is from the talisman announcement
balista bow is from ascension

retard
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>>122987889
Why do you need to see it?

You'll copy that build from someone else anyway :^)
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>>122988056
nope
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>>122988315
>scrolls to 2nd to last box and waits for shit to load in
https://www.pathofexile.com/ascendancy
Oh hey, Ballista bow.
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>>122987889
>>122987163
Hello. The bow you're looking for is on https://www.pathofexile.com/ascendancy
Down at "new items".
You're welcome.
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I haven't played PoE since shortly after they added the second part of act 3.

I have a Lv75 Witch, a Lv71 Scion, two Lv65 Templars, a Lv64 Templar and a Lv 63 Duelist.

What is the equivalent of a spork build these days? Looking for a cheap build for any of the above characters to get going again.

Pic not related.
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>>122988967
>What is the equivalent of a spork build these days?
flame totem, maybe shockwave totem
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>>122988967
Spork is dead, sadly.
If you want cheap and easy, Flame Totem for casters, (insert tank melee skill here) and a tank build for your Duelist is a good choice.
Any casting spell and health is a good option for a cheap Witch.
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>>122988583
>>122988483
this is going to be my build for ascendency

use this bow + soul mantle

you will have 7 ballistas t-b-h

tell me how that isn't OP
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>>122989224
>>122989297
Flame totem sounds nice for my witch. Any details that need to be covered for that build?
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>>122989541
>this font rendering
kill yourself my man
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>>122989541
you still have to cast them
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>>122989541
Do Siege Ballistas count as regular Totems or unique Totems? Either way, you can have way more than 7 ballistas. With shit like that stat helm, % increased Dex on Brawn jewel and Talisman necklaces, etc. can get you way up there.

The problem is, you much more than likely won't be able to raise totems faster than they die from duration ending/ it would be hyper inefficient to raise that many since by the time you finish, everything is dead.
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>>122989710
>20% increased totem placement speed
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>>122989804
wow, that's fucking nothing
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>>122989939
if it takes 10 seconds to lay 7 totems, that 20% faster placement saves you 2 seconds per pack. if a map has ~200 packs, that's a total of 400 seconds saved, or 6.6 minutes. it's worth it bro
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>>122990504
again, that implies it takes 7 totems to kill a pack.
>>
Man I hope this siege ballista redditor newfag faggot kills himself soon so we won't have to suffer his idiocy for very long.
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>>122990504
>It takes 1.5 seconds base to lay one totem
>You can hit well above 10 totems with this bow
>Laying all 10 totems would take 15 seconds
>Base duration is 8 seconds
>Can be amped up to 12.4 seconds with Increased Duration and tree nodes
>If you actually deal good enough damage with this shit, you will clear a pack in about 5-10 seconds
>It'd be inefficient and pointless to dump all your totems except for bosses and you won't even be able to pump them out fast enough to where you hit cap.
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>>122990504
Garbage clear speed and i bet the damage is gonna be mediocre as fuck. Knock yourself out though
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>>122990951
you forgot to mention
>your totems die from the slightest fart because you have no totem defence nodes
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>>122990951
projectpt will do it

you know he will
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>>122991394
>memebuilder will do meme build
You don't say!

>>122991238
That's beside the point and assumes that the damage is good enough to warrant it, but yeah. That too.
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>>122990951
Totem base duration is 8 seconds. Exceptional Performance, Potency of Will and Totemic Zeal raises the duration to 18.4 seconds

Totem base placement time is 1.5 seconds (I don't know if this is correct but I'll take your word for it). The bow and Totemic Zeal with improve that to 0.9 seconds.

Seems good enough with minimal investment.
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dual wielding singularity sceptres and having q20 temp chains on blasphemy would reduce nearby monsters' movement speed by a total of 80%
this should be enough to manually dodge leapers, rhoas and whatnot, right?
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>>122992292
Probably.
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>>122992292
seems like overkill.
they are easy enough to dodge right now.
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>>122992292
Do you mean Ichimonji?
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>>122989541
fuk dex totems and fuck you
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>>122992292
Singularity slow aura probably doesn't stack.

Temp chains is multiplicative with other sources of slow.
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>>122993343
I know temp chains is multiplicative, I factored that in
good point about singularity aura, but even if it doesn't stack then it's 60% movement speed reduction
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>>122993564
It may or may not stack, but then why is the guy in the new skills picture above it wielding 2 if it doesn't stack? You can get much better stats on rares.
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>>122992894
that pic perfectly describes this game to be honest familiy
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>>122993871
ggg does all kinds of retarded shit when they show things off, they don't know how to play their own game
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>>122994027
it's probably just to troll autistic spergoid faggots like yourself
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>>122995174
fuck off chris
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new thread where
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>>122995984
thats a really cute kitty
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>>122996063
i want a smushy faced kitty desu
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>>122996159
i want to fuck your boipussy
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>>122996384
thats disgusting
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>>122996497
This ship's going down, boys. And it's all account of the weather.
Go down with a little grace.
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>>122997629
>>122997629
>>122997629
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