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/cgg/ - Cuhrayzee Games General

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Previously on /cgg/: >>122222073

VST7 IS NOW. RULES AND INFO BELOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqpMeaoxOmk

>All the entries of VST7 will be streamed here on December 19th, 6 PM EST:
http://instasync.com/r/alps

CUHRAYZEE THREAD FAQ (please read this and CUHRAYZEE NEWS before asking questions):
http://pastebin.com/XFGyzhzB

CUHRAYZEE RECOMMENDED GAMES (INCLUDES INDIES):
http://i.imgur.com/lEnXRlO.jpg

CUHRAYZEE TIPS, TECHNIQUES, MODS, AND MISC:
http://pastebin.com/juDAjfSM

STEAM GROUP: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/CUHRAYZEE
WIKI: http://cuhrayzee.wikia.com/wiki/CUHRAYZEE_GAMES_GENERAL_Wiki
FORUM: http://cuhrayzeegames.boards.net

>We Shall Wake
Indie Cuhrayzee game, dev posts here most of the time. Blog updates every Saturday mostly. Development is still ongoing. See their blog at
http://www.weshallwake.com/
Patreon ongoing. Support them if you'd like.
http://www.patreon.com/nokoriware

DMC, Bayonetta, We Shall Wake, Viewtiful Joe, God Hand, Ninja Gaiden, Wonderful 101, Vanquish, Sengoku Basara, Rising Revengeance, Fairy Bloom Freesia, Rainblood, Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae.
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>>122767475
First for posting new OP before bump limit!
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So, anyone here who is working on an entry for vst? =P If yes, what game?
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>>122768952
Sadly I don't have a capture card, but I'm practicing for the next one.

I want to make an entry for Bayonetta 2.
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Sweet new OP!
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>>122769148
I don't have either, i'm using a camera. =P

I'm making a bayonetta 1 entry.
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>>122768952
Only one entry has been submitted according to Alp's pastebin info so far, but I really we see more. We need more contributions people!
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>>122769471
Yeah, I really like how clean it looks in comparison to the old one.

I couldn't add as much new content as I wanted to, but now that every /cgg/ game is on display, I hope that this motivates more anons to contribute to the pastebin.
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>>122769764
I'm drunk as all hell. I meant to say "We really need to see more". This might end up being the shortest stream yet.
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>>122769631
That sounds like a good idea.

This would be my first combo video ever, but it might be fun.
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Is Ninja Gaiden Zigma a good entry point to the series?

I don't have any xbox console btw.
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finished god hand last night and i was thinking about play viewtiful joe next. i don't feel motivated enough to git gud at god hand but i'll come back to it one day.
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>>122771659
I already read the pastebin, I just want to know if I should either get Sigma 1 or 2.
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>>122772284
play in release order
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>>122768952
Birth of a New World. features multiple games.

>>122769148
>Sadly I don't have a capture card
Stop being a NEET for just two got damn seconds and get yourself a job, you bum.

>>122769764
I have 80% of my clips recorded and I'm around about 40-ish percent complete in Sony Vegas.
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>>122769764
>Codes for names to protect favoritism
>Tfw you only play one game so everyone knows who you are
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Just beat Bayonetta 2. I wondered about something though

after killing Loptr, Loki says his soul plans to escape to the spirit realm to be reborn. Where exactly is this "spirit realm"? It's established that there's the Trinity of Realms, Inferno, Paradiso and Earth with Purgatorio being another plane of existence, but where is this "spiritual realm"? I figured in the world of Bayonetta, souls are either heading to Heaven or Hell. Then again, I never understood the concept of how reincarnation happens in our own culture. Do souls go to Heaven and Hell first and then go into reincarnation, or does a soul have an option to reincarnate right after they die? I know I'm probably looking way too into this...
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Be honest, /cgg/, will you be getting a PS4 for Nier 2? Like you did it with WiiU for Bayo2?
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>>122780010
I'd advise not worrying about it, the fact that they added time travel into the mix makes it pointless to try and understand, especially with only two games worth of story, one being kinda retcon-ish
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>>122780213
i already have a ps4 and bloodborne is the only game i own for it
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>>122780213
I already did this >>122780521 If NieR 2 isn't amazing I'll be selling my PS4 though, what a waste of fucking money it was.
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>>122780618
i wont sell mine but the ps4 is a real shitter. i still use my ps3 primarily to play xrd and pc for everything else.
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>>122776923
>Stop being a NEET for just two got damn seconds and get yourself a job, you bum.
Not him.

But sometimes getting a job is difficult, it depends in way more things than simply wanting to get a job.
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>>122768952
I am still doubting. I am not that good with the game and can't do anything cool with it. But kinda want to participate.
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>NieR 2 will be cuhrayzee

Need I remind you that NieR 2 doesn't have any weapon switching.

>But that doesn't mean it won't be "cuhrayzee"

Oh, so it's going to end up another MKH, BUT WITH FUNDING!
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>>122781136
I keep seeing MKH in /cgg/ but apparently I missed what it was, what is it
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>>122781030
I just recorded my stuff, i'm pretty sure i'm not doing something impressive, i just want to show that i love the game that i'm doing an entry for, since it is not very represented in VST.

But is just for fun, i did get better with this and achieved things i didn't hope for.
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>>122781030
thats a good point of view
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>>122781284
>what is it

MKH is the abbreviation for Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae.
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>>122780213
I already have it, and I am a Tarofag as well, so I don't mind whether the game will be cuhrayzee or not (it'd be pretty cool if it is though).
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>>122781136
Where's the source for that?

Drakengard 3 is the latest Taro game, and it has weapon switching. I doubt they'd go backwards unless Platinum has a big moveset for the protagonist in mind.
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>>122780213
I'm gonna buy a PS4 for Persona 5 anyway so yes.
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>>122784246
>Source

Analysis from the most recent gameplay trailer.

>inb4 but it's early footage, weapon switching will be shown at a later time

Kek. I hope so.
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So, bad habits while playing your cuhrayzee game.


Do you have any? What game?

Starting myself, i play mostly Bayonetta, and my bad habit is that tetsuzanko is my answer for everything.
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>>122785786
FBF
block and counter exclusively
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>>122784864
So the source is your ass?

Owning and upgrading several different weapons (chakrams, swords, knuckles, and spears for D3; 1h, 2h swords, and spears for Nier) is an stapple of the games; weapon switching would only a natural progression for the series.

Unless, as I said, the devs have something different in mind.
But let's be honest, the games already have combos (lame God of War style, but still combos) and weapon switching. And all of that was done by a pretty mediocre team; so it's only logical to assume that Platinum will only bring improvements to Nier Automata.
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>>122786018
You wanna know the difference between your logic and mine? I brought facts, you brought your feelings towards the team working on the game. Keep in mind that NieR 2 is still a JRPG. That way you can avoid shooting yourself in the foot later on.

You Platinum Fanboys will over hype any Platinum game.
see: Shitformers
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>>122781752
this was meant for >>122781289
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>>122786930
Mine are facts too. You cannot dismiss the fact that the games have always had to diferent weapons and that D3 has already introduced the weapon switching mechanic.
I even admitted that the game has rather lame combat. But you can trust me when I tell you that Platinum will do something miles better than what the previous devs did.
Thanks for the ad hominem though.

I'm sure that the game can only aim to be similar to MG Rising AT MOST, and I may even be wrong. But I have very high hopes that the game will have a serviceable combat, and probably be better than what we've ever had in the series so far.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q7s4E94-No

Is pen spinning Cuhrayzee? The editing seems pretty close.
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I'm really starting to get disappointed with my vst entry.

Like, i was able to do what i wanted, but not in a perfect way (like, without messing inputs, and sometimes i did use the same move or combination)...

Maybe i should run with what i have, or should i keep trying?
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>>122785864
There's more to it than that. Play around with the other moves. You'll find some use as a follow up to Tetsuzankou. Especially if you bounce the enemy onto another.
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>>122783935
>this design
My fucking dick.
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>>122780213
>tfw no wii u
anyone know some good black friday deals?
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>>122780213
>will you be getting a PS4
Yes
>for Nier 2?
No but that's is part of it
>gravity rush
>gg relevator
>sfv

I'm glad I wasn't an early buyer, there was fuck all to play on it for a long time.
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>>122794964
What about that bundle pack which includes Splatoon and Smash?
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Hey guys I was just wondering if you would be able to answer my Strawpoll for DMC3. Doing an analysis of Rivalries in media and since DMC3 contains probably one of the best Rivalries I thought I would ask here. Preferably be honest.

http://strawpoll.me/6049072
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>>122783935
Please don't give her a cock.
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>>122781021
Depending on where you live and your access to transportation.
The first time I got a job, I was 21 with no prior experience. Literally filled out 4 applications before I got hired. Last application was a job referral that I made at the unemployment office. After that job, I ended up leaving after a year due to the shitty work conditions.

Became NEET for a year while living with my parents and sister then got another job which I'm at now, got this job due to a temp agency. And that didn't take long at all.

When people talk about finding for jobs, part of me feels like they aren't looking hard enough. Either that or they live in shitty areas which don't hand out jobs very often.
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>>122780267
True but I always wondered how the laws work in general. Like apparently you can enter Heaven, Hell and Purgatory while still alive, but once you're dead, your soul is dragged to Heaven or Hell automatically.

Though, I guess that was the whole point of going to the mountain so to be able to enter Hell or Heaven while still alive.
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>>122796453
all i really want is bayo1/2 and w101, was wondering if they'd put the console by itself on sale
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>>122794107
You still have like 30 days left. Keep pushing to do your best,>>122794537
and don't give up.
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>>122798176
The default to humans in the Bayonetta-verse, after they die, is to reincarnate into another person.

Witches, since they have pacts with demons, will be dragged to Inferno, is never said if sages go to paradiso. But anyone that is killed by a witch will be dragged to Inferno as part of the contract.

Purgatorio gameplay-wise is always empty, but i believe it would be the go place for souls before they reincarnate or something like that, or maybe the reincarnation is instant, the moment someone dies, they go straight to a womb and get ready to be born as a new person.

It was probabl Loptr's plan, but balder somehow was able to destroy his soul together with himself before dying in the beginning, so, who knows.

>>122799561
I'll do that, i have already 2 videos that i'm quite satisfied, one of them i'll look to see if i get some improvement.

But there are other 2 that they are not great right now.

>>122798014
It isn't only a matter of where you live and access to transportation. There is also the economical situation of a certain place (country/state/city). And how easy by default is to get a job in a certain culture.

I've finished college in April, since i made 18, it was few the time that i was unemployed or working in some kind of internship, but now, there is almost a year that i can't find anything, and i'm still sending CVs, trying to make my own money.

Of course, there is the consideration of what the person is able/willing to do, something more questionable or wrong by the morality of some person might be presented as oportunity, and the person will deny in that case.
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>>122801697
>There is also the economical situation of a certain place (country/state/city).
That applies to "where you live"
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POLL TIME

Which game are you submitting for VST?
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>>122802069
kritika
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>>122801810
Yeah, i noticed my flaw after i wrote that, my bad. =P

>>122802069
Bayonetta 1.
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>>122795313
>not buying onechanbara

all hope is lost
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>>122802069
SHINOBI
THE MOTHERFUCKING SHINOBI LOOK AT THE MOTHERFUCKER THERE WITH THE GODDAMN SWORD THERE
LET'S BUST THE SHINOBI OUT
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So, since this VST there will be an anonymity system, peole can't put on the video stuff like: VST by "person", right?
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>>122803456
>Shinobi
Who the hell resurrected the Shinobi guy? Welcome back, it's been a long time.

Please do it! We believe in you!
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>>122803704
don't put your name in the video itself.
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>>122804110
damn there goes my paincloud tribute
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>>122804221
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>>122799098
I'd say you just buy the bundle instead because it is seriously a great sale. And from what I've seen in dep. stores, the bundle is more common than the plain console.
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I don't have a capture card because I am pretty new to this community and I never had the necesity to record what I play; give me a break guys.
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>>122803704

What this guy said
>>122804110

Though maybe you want to consider a reupload after VST to get the version you want?
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>>122806802

Easycap cards are $10

Literally no excuse. If you can afford having Internet and a PC to render you can get a $10 easycap
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>>122807334
>Literally no excuse.
>Easycap uses AVI cables while most people use HDMI.
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>>122807334
Well thanks. I'm still pretty bad at the games and lack confidence, but I never bothered to look at the prices of cards, they are cheaper than what I expected.

I play on consoles though.
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>>122807581

Every single console comes with VGA cables. You have to buy HDMI separately
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>>122807691
>every single console
Not the Wii U or PS4.
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>>122807974
>PS4

What the fuck are you even going to record on PS4
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>>122808573
>forgetting DMC4:SE.
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>>122808573
sumeragi
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>>122802996
>buying onechanbara
nah, it's better for him to not buy it, and not come here to bitch about how he bought something that is in a genre he hates because he lacks basic google skills. That and the game seems to have shitty level design+bosses
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>>122780213
I bought a PS4 early for shit like this.
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>>122780213
I bought a Wii U for LoZ, Monster Hunter, and Smash 4.
Kinda wish I held off on it though.
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>>122785786
When I play Bayo I tend to taunt myself into damage
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>>122806802
>>122807334
>>122807581

You know, I was thinking, should we make a paste/guide for people that are looking to get capture cards?

I don't know enough about them to begin the guide but I could do the writeup and info compilation. Maybe share some experiences, some benefits and some cons, the cost, so on and so forth. Anyone interested?
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>>122810943
Not really because anyone with a brain can look around and make their own judgement about what capture card to buy.
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>>122810943

That is not the image I wanted to post what the hell
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>>122811113
>>122810943
http://www.videohelp.com/capturecards
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>>122811846
Nice.
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>Capture Cards

Seriously what year were you fuckers born? CCs have been a thing since the beginning of YTube.

>The Beginning. PS2/Xbox - new generation
Top tier was anyone with a Dazzle Capture Card ($70). There were a lot of people using VCRs (holyshit) to record their game play.For VCR footage check on Phantasy Star Online 1(Dreamcast), Halo 1/2, Socom US Navy Seals, DMC1 footage on youtube from many years ago. I do not kid you.


>Xbox 360/PS3 2005/2006
HD rolled in and with that came the very first era of HD cards. The first to point it off was the Black Magic Intensity Pro ($200) and was only available as an internal card. Later came the HD PvR which was an external card designed for recording console gaming. Also during this era people were still using Dazzle Capture cards.

>Mid/Late console gen/new console gen
After streaming on JustinTV grew TwitchTV was born and you had shit like Roxio, El Gato HD, HD PvR 2, EazyCap (mostly for EU), Dazzle HD, etc releasing which is currently the cards to use today.
Now a tier list.

S
EL Gato (ex)
Black Magic (int)


A
HD PvR 2 (ex)
HD PvR (ex)
Roxio HD (ex)

B
Roxio Capture Card (ex)
Dazzle HD Capture Card
Dazzle (RED) something something 100/101 <-- best standard capture in the history of mankind

C
All other Dazzle Capture Cards
EazyCap

D
Anything else


Shit tier
Beware of anything unknown cards made from China
Beware of EazyCap china version
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>>122814258
Your list is fucking absurd.

PVRs are absolutely shit. I had 2 HD PVRs and they both overheated or had software issues with the packaged software.
PVR2s are just more expensive with more connections.
You didn't list any Avermedia cards and the only internal card you listed was Black Magic holy shit

I appreciate you're trying to help but your rankings are shit.
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>>122814258
>doesn't list avermedia lgp
despite the shitty customer service, it works surprisingly well.
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>>122814478
I still have my HD PvR as of 4 years now and it work fines. i didn't list Avermedia because of my bad experience with them as well as everyone else's terrible experience and because also there's a D tier with "anything else". But I'm glad to see you have been triggered. There are our 100 different capture cards to choose from, I'm not going to list them all, you bamboo. My list mostly consist of the main ones or most popular.
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>>122815041
>you bamboo
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>>122815863
>you bamboo
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>>122815041
>you bamboo
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>>122815041
>I still have my HD PVR as of 4 years now and it work fines
Okay, that doesn't change them being absolutely low tier capture devices these days. Any internal card is far better value from Black Magic, Avermedia, Elgato. PVR2s cant even do proper 60fps at decent resolutions.

>i didn't list Avermedia because of my bad experience with them as well as everyone else's terrible experience
You aren't meant to bring your retarded bias into actual advice. There are dozens and dozens of terrible experiences with HD PVRs as well. My hours spent trawling forums for overheating issues wasn't a fantasy.

>My list mostly consist of the main ones or most popular.
If you think Avermedia isn't among the popular ones you might be retarded. If this was 2011 I'd agree with you, every idiot including me bought a PVR thinking they were hot shit before realising they should just get a decent internal card with a better encoder.
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>>122816584
Do you work for Avermedia?
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>>122796925
>implying that's a bad thing
why yes. I am a fag
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>>122817000
No, I just can't understand someone leaving out one of the major brands while shilling one of the worst. I explicitly stated any internal card from any of those 3 companies would be good choices.

The guy that made that list is just putting the hardware he owns at the top.
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>>122764408
All the videos you shared are pretty good.
I really liked this one as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WzK2evtYP8

I'm gonna get the PSN version since its cheaper than anything my local amazon/ebay/whatever have to offer.
Are there any issues with the PSN version?
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>>122816584
>>122817392
>Being that butt hurt about a tier list, any tier list, which nothing more than someone's opinion.

Bruh. Alright go ahead and sell us the Avermedia, Avermedia guy. Tell us what Pros and Cons does the Avermedia bring to the table. I also hope you bring some of your own recorded clips to show, got anything DMC4:SE?
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>>122817641
Oh shit, I didn't mean to post that picture.
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>>122817641
Framerate is unstable can't handle dust particles but for some reason turning off the enemy health bar in the options fix it slightly if I recall correctly. That and it seems like it's hardware intensive (depends on your PS3 I think)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvWlZ0rBJE

I'd say getting the PS2 version/playing it on PCSX2 would be better
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>>122815041

>you bamboo
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>>122817851
I'm done don't worry, enjoy wasting your money because you can't research more than a single 4chan post.
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>>122818151
>I'm done don't worry, enjoy wasting your money because you can't research more than a single 4chan post.
>Going that hard about Avermedia and than bringing absolutely nothing to the table

Damn, you're worst than the Transformers guys not wanting to show off the tech. It's ok, through, Avermedia guy. NO, not really.
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can we please go back to playing games instead of recording them?
Either that or posting your fav waifu
featured in pic, not mai waifu
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>>122818949
>back to playing games
>not recording them

You're in the wrong general. The point of playing cuhrayzee is to discover, claim, and show off that discovery to the world. We're basically treasure hunters.
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>>122818145
>>122816576
>>122815863
>>122816440
You're all bamboo desu.
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>>122780213
>will you be getting a PS4
some day, either used or if price drops more because I'm poor
>for Nier 2
maybe? Never played Nier Gestalt or Replicant
I want to buy it for mainly Onechanbara Z2 Chaos, DOA:Xtreme 3 I NEED MORE TITTIES and Nioh (if it's good), and FF15(if it's good, if no pc port) + a few others
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>>122818694
Making a tier list and providing 0 reasoning behind any of your picks, not providing price points, features, resolutions or framerates is worse though tbqh family.
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>>122818949
>Either that or posting your fav waifu
>having multiple waifus
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>tfw i have 2 hd capcards
>tfw i never use them because all i ever play is dmc4 on pc

:^)
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>>122819662
I didn't know the Grey Knights hunted down people with multiple waifus
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>>122819704
please send one to me thanks
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>>122819727
They hunt down heresy in all of its forms.
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>>122819662
I'm a horrible human being, what can I say? Also,
THEY'RE NOT REAL
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>>122819640
>Never played Nier Gestalt or Replicant
They're the same game though.

And Automata supposedly can stand on it's own; but wait until more info drops before you make a decision for that game.
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Okay, all footage recorded, now i just need to learn how to edit stuff, here i go to discover cuhrayzee tech in free video editors. \o\
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>>122818694
Not him but internal capture cards (not just Avermedia) have it's own quirks. First and foremost, they take the strain off of your CPU to record the video. Not only that but if you're playing/streaming from the preview window (some people do this because they don't have another monitor to look at during streams). But for the most part, that tier list was extremely biased since there wasn't really any description on why X capture card is good/bad.

And for the most part, Avermedia is kinda popular.

>>122819704
>tfw bought a capture card for my Wii U
>Used it for the entirety of my time spent playing Project M, Smash 4, MH3U, Bayonetta, and NG3 Razor's Edge
>Haven't used it since my last Bayo vid.
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>>122820120
heard the plot is different with the MC being either a brother or a father
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>>122820162
Chasertech is that you?
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>>122820142
Just download Premiere CS6.0, its literally just a dll swap to pirate
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>>122820162
what if my computer is too far away
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>>122820142

>free video editors

Don't

Torrent sony vegas pro, or just download it off a direct download site like Mega. Adobe Premiere is another good alternative

Above all, I seriously stress DO NOT render with free video editors. Not even with windows movie maker. Aside of all of them having severely limited editing options, they're also clunky, are prone to having tons of bugs and the output quality is garbage
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>>122820432
I avoid piracy when possible, i'm not going to do any fancy editing, i just need to put the videos together, add songs, and just put a text to credit the song at the end...
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>>122819640
>I want to buy it for mainly Onechanbara Z2 Chaos

I <3 you.
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>>122820616
good luck doing that with shitty freesoftware
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>>122820616
>I avoid piracy when possible
Even if you're doing nothing fancy >>122820560 is right, encoding on free editors is shit for the vast majority and most of them are finnicky as fuck.

It takes 0 effort to get Vegas or Premiere
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>>122820428
Yes.

>>122820434
That's the price to pay when it comes to internal cards. Mine is an external though. Especially since it came with a feature that allows it to record footage without the use of a PC.
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>>122820267
Very slightly, and you can also buy the japanese/brother version as DLC.

But many agree that the Gestalt/father version that we got in NA and EU is the best one.
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>>122820162
>Avermedia is kinda popular.

So I guess Avermedia leveled you, still not buying their shit, though, and everyone has their own tier list for pretty much anything. But don't stop, feel free to share with us your Avermedia experience since Aver guy is too shy.
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>>122807334

I've always used EasyCap myself. The only real reason why I don't get a higher quality capture card is because literally the only game I record is Ninja Gaiden. I have absolutely no interest in actually recording any of the other games I own

Also on the subject of NG, I've come to a point in writing the guide where I'm not sure if I should include freeform combos for different weapons or not. Initially I had decided I wouldn't do it because there's so many different combinations that can be performed, with few of them having the possibility of being put to practice in a combat situation (ie anything involving more than 1 enemy). If I continue with that then it's just a matter of writing what's left of weapon discussion.

Don't know if anyone has something additional they'd want to see in the guide apart from what I've already included

http://pastebin.com/uQfLr9pt
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>>122821197
If you think ChaserTech is a shill you're a fucking moron.
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>>122818123
Shit, that is scary.

Thanks for the warning.
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>>122821197
I don't know if you're playing dumb or if you lived under a rock, but yeah Avermedia is kinda well known. Keep in mind that well known =/= great product.

I have an Avermedia LGP and even though I like the No-PC record feature and the amount of recording quality options you have, I hate that it acts like a retard when trying to record on certain TV sets. It'll work on my TV just fine but when I try to record on a different setup, it'll give me a black screen unless I configure it. Not to mention it'll take a bit just for the display to show up properly on the TV screen if it's plugged up. Other than that, it records good quality and has it's own recording software that has basic, intermediate, and advanced settings.
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>>122818123
It might be because I have a later model but my PS3 doesn't freak the hell out when I play God Hand. Its fan seems to go batshit insane randomly though.
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>>122821212
oh thank god i thought you died or something
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>>122821938
Would like to add that I've also used EasyCap DC60+ series and coming from personal experience, I'd say that you might want to refrain on using it if you want something that can last for awhile. Might be worth it to just get a Dazzle instead.
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>>122821281
Did you really have to sound so..... intimate when defending your husbando?

>>122821938
Just because I don't mention Avermedia doesn't mean I'm not informed on their brand.

Sounds sweet for the part. If anyone is interested they're on sell for 70 bucks on Ebay. Sound be in the bumfag price range, and as Chaser just said, based on his first hand experience, this card is great for anyone spending on a budget. 70 bucks for HD recording, can't beat that. What you buy is what you get, though.
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>>122823407
>Just because I don't mention Avermedia doesn't mean I'm not informed on their brand.
Considering you asked for personal experiences I'd say yeah it does.

>If anyone is interested they're on sell for 70 bucks on Ebay. Sound be in the bumfag price range
That's not bumfag price range. EasyCap fits in that bill.
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>>122824151
That is bumfag HD price point. You ain't getting any better than that.

>hurr durr Avermedia
I'll just say that I play fighting games and leave it at that.
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>>122819374

Shut up Ha0, you suck at bayo anyway
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>>122824324
The price range isn't bum standards though.
A NEET can't afford that. And if they prioritize spending 70 dollars on a capture card instead of something else, then the person stupid.

>I'll just say that I play fighting games and leave it at that.
Which proves nothing.
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>>122824904
How is that NOT the bumfag special? We're talking about HD here, not SD 4:3 resolution. Like I said, it gets no better than that, you're not going to find anything would HD support for a much cheaper price.

>Which proves nothing.
FYI Avermedia has been shilling that piece of shit card for years in the fighting game community, they even sponsor players.
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Do you just have to be simply that quick when moving your right thumb between face buttons and right stick in God Hand to dodge or is there some obvious thing i don't get?
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>>122825863
yes, gotta be fast. Or you could play with the Keyboard if you're using PCSX2.
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>>122825863
embrace the inner claw
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>>122818949
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>>122820663
A different anon here.

I haven't researched too much for it outside of a couple of videos and a few reviews, but the game seems fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7YVW29r6No
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>>122827491
i am REALLY tempted:

1. Hold controller tight to my chest so that i could move right stick by moving controller itself
2. Use some kind of macro tool so that RT+LEFT stick movement translate to corresponding RIGHT stick movement.
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Watching my own footage makes me realize how flawed and bad i am.

Well, what is done is done, i'm making an entry anyways, it will help me improve my play.
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>>122821212
The entirety of your pastebin is pure poetry. With all this info I'm gonna go back to NG2 and try to git gud.

Thanks, anon.
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Good night, /cgg/.

Don't die on me, ok?
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Wake up, wake me up inside
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>>122836339
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>when you play a not cuhrayzee game and try to apply cuhrayzee tactics to it, then run back to /cgg/

Guys, guys, it's freaking CCUUUHHHRAAAYYYZZZEEEEE!!!
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>>122836758
DW8?
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>>122836824
Die Nasty Oeros I Eight Firepowah
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>>122833710
we are deader than Vergil
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>>122828880
just practice mashing up dodge real fast
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>>122840023
Vergil isn't dead though.
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>>122795313
>there was fuck all to play on it for a long time
I thought the PS4 has no games?
sarcasm
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>>122778769
don't you mean
>tfw you are the only one playing that certain game so everybody recognizes you
respect for you, anon, respect
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>>122820560
>Dante claus
anybody know how to draw? Because I would like to see more of that
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>>122841000
Or he could just have a distinct playstyle in a game that's popular so it's easy to pick him out from the crowd.
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>That conversation on capture cards

/cgg/ more like /cg/ /g/
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>>122841084
I thought there was only one way to play cuhrayzee?
God Hand-juggle x launch + glitch
DMC- Mid air spazzing
Bayonetta-Witch Time
NG-(dodge+UT) X explosive mayhem
Vanquish-BULLET TIME
MKH-nobody plays it
MGR-Taunt+Charge, nobody mains Raiden or Bladewolf
VJ-Slowmo/speedup × Mayhem
FBF-juggle x dash + parry
Rainblood-nobody plays it
Sengoku Basara-(juggle x juggle)^juggle

it's a joke, get mad you lose
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>>122841797
>(juggle x juggle)^juggle
I'm no mathematician but that's a lot of fucking juggling.
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>>122841797

>Mid air spazzing

This is seriously what it looks like though
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>>122840117
with what? my nose?

i am seriously considering it
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>>122843396
Is the game called God Nose?

Git gud and prove that you are worthy of the God Hand.
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>>122843396

Not him but it's really not hard to move your right thumb from a face button to the right stick
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>>122843396
Now I am wondering if you are disabled and thus missing a hand or a thumb
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>>122844071
>God Nose
is that the prequel to Goddess Legs which is the spiritual successor to God Hand?
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>>122769764
>tfw only one anon managed to submit their entry in time for VST7 and he wins by default
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>>122844834
no, i am just not used to use r-stick that often, i barely ever touch it in other games

i'll try to adapt but it's really hard to break habits
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>>122803456
>shinobi
>not submitting the superior Nightshade
DO IT FOR HER
in all seriousness I would like to see more Shinobi/Nightshade, even if it's not cuhray
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>>122845579
i too wish to see some high level Nightshade or Shinobi gameplay. Nightshade moreso since I never played it.
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>>122846918
>wants to see more shinobi/nightshade
>not making there own vst shinobi/nightshade entry
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>>122825606
You're missing what I'm saying. I'm saying people who make no income can't buy something within that price range. I could see if it was 10 - 20 dollars, maybe. But dropping 70 for a card is still too much for unemployeed, income-less people. Trust me I've been in that situation before and the only time I was able to afford anything was saving up from the previous job I had before I left so I could buy things I needed/wanted.

>>122825606
>FYI Avermedia has been shilling that piece of shit card for years in the fighting game community, they even sponsor players.
Same thing goes for Elgato.
And how do you know it's shit? Did you do any research about it?
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https://youtu.be/m_4rHWPN0tw

DmC trigger warning.
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>>122848920
I'm busy with God Hand and VJ, the latter of which is surprisingly hard to make viewtiful stuff. Pops is truly a beast
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>>122857915

>Tfw being unable to catch up to a level of skill

Cuhrayzee doesn't have it nearly as bad as fighting games but I've been stuck on improving on one fighting game for so long and the smallest bit of actual progress only grows from the most autistic and intense hours of analysis and training for months.

It really helps that you start training early if you want to be a master, otherwise you got years worth of work to make up with.
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>>122858163
>>122857915
I really understand the feeling.

I'm trying to get better at bayonetta, and is difficult to think that there is stuff from 2010 that i can't achieve properly, but i will not give up.
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>>122857915

>Pops is truly a beast
>Watching his VJ2 UVR playthrough
>Dizzied enemy in front of Joe
>An enemy is about to divekick him from behind
>For a split second the screen goes into Mach Speed and the divekicking enemy is now bumped off screen as he continues to wail on the dizzied enemy
>Had to rewind a bit to process what just happened
>Mfw he used a single bit of VFX to clone himself in Mach Speed just to handle one straggler that was attempting to interrupt him

He's got tricks like this all over his playthrough, and they're all nothing short of absolutely brilliant. Not only is his reactionary skill for that game second to none, he just understands the game itself on an impossibly autistic level.
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>>122858741
He also makes stylish stuff in bayonetta 2, and he is one of the few to achieve that... (the only i believe)
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>>122781136
God hand doesn't have weapon switching
Neither does ninja gaiden
Or Viewtiful Joe

3/10 I replied
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>>122858919

To be fair he did use Grace and Glory in his Traditional, the only enemies that work under the combat ruleset of the first game.

There is stylish stuff possible in Bayo 2 as a lot of its balance was sacrificed in order to look good but technically impressive, not so much.

IMO Pops was always a jack of all trades, master of none but VJ. VJ is his staple game for a beautiful reason. Most of his other stuff is pretty decent if not good though.
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>>122859028
>jack of all trades, master of none
that being said, I wonder how many of us can be at least good enough to be stylish at more than 2 games
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>>122859028
You're right. I don't understand VJ to say a thing about his vj gameplay other than it is so fast that i can't understand that much. It isn't like dmc, bayonetta, rising, where i can at least see what is happening.

But man, i really get sad when i think about bayo 2. I wish this game was the new holy grail of cuhrayzee, it had so much potential.
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>>122785786
Similar problem for bayonetta actually lol
That and I still haven't gotten the offsets down yet.

For ninja gaiden, I typically just tend to spam falcon talons forward heavy into an OT. Makes the game too easy to the point where if I actually try to fight, I get butt-pummeled. Whose idea was it to make dismembering so easy?

That's probably the one complaint I have about ng 2 over 1. They improved the combat tons over the first but adding dismemberment kinda trivialized all the improvements because it's so overpowered.
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>>122859328

Well I'm not good at more than God Hand but I'm a fairly high level player at Soku

Not in the league of the greats for that game but at the same time people tell me I'm significantly much higher than average, does that count.
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>>122859471
I was talking about being good enough to be stylish at more than 2 cuhrayzee.
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>>122859440
so you prefer Sigma 2? Heard they lowered the dismember chance or something greatly
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>>122859801

Yeah I know, hence the "I'm not good at more than God Hand"

Should've been more clear
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>>122804221
Hey, keep my fucking name out of your mouth.

*fades into obscurity again*
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>>122859328
I think that is more of who is willing to be stylish in more than 2 cuhrayzee.

Like, ChaserTech played bayonetta 1 and 2 for some time, and managed to do some really cool stuff, but he dropped the game.

n472a did stuff for a lot of games.

Michellegun has shown to be capable of doing cool stuff in bayonetta 2, devil may cry 3 and 4, while being a DmC player.

Now i believe that there will always be a game that will just work with that person better, or something like that.
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For the guy working on a Lady pastebin, here, by Pops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYZK1v-tE4U
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>>122859020
you forgot MGR(can not switch sub weapons on the fly)
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CUHRAYZEE but also Fabulous Lumen Sage game when?
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>>122862187
When MGR 2 is confirmed + Wonderful 999 is announced for Nintendo NX + Nintendo steps in and asks Platinum for Bayonetta 3 + Madworld/Max Anarchy gets a sequel
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>>122862459
Off to sacrifice eternal virgins for screaming demons then.
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hope you like insane combos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFskE4RzOEc
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>>122863929

>Smash
>True combos

Wrong general bruh, /ssbg/ is the other way
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>>122866205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPseOlTl7Dk
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Being the guy who collects entries makes you feel really appreciative of getting them somehow.
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[email protected]
Please spam this man. He ruined our football league and is being a dick about it.
Thank you.
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>>122868387

Wrong board
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Does /cgg/ like kung fu movies?
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Hmm.
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Better.
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>>122859940
I've only played the demo for the original sigma so I don't know.

>>122861659
True. I forgot that one.
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>>122866205
>muh true combos
Most cuhrayzee gameplay and even fighting game combo videos spend more time showing off creative resets and setups than simple true combos.

Still more cuhrayzee than Marvel.
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>>122866205
Oh, and every combo that was shown off in that video was a true combo. You have no idea what you're talking about, retard.
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>>122879220
>Still more cuhrayzee than Marvel.
Are you saying Smash is cuhrayzee than marvel!? Kill yourself and then kill yourself again in the afterlife for playing smash competitively. When you're ready to play a real fighting game like GGXXAC+R let me know so I can crush what little will you have left. It's available on PC btw but of course you don't play shit as technical as GG.
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>>122879842
>>>/fgg/

It is. The combo system is deeper in every way possible except possibly length if you even consider that to be deep gameplay. There is nothing impressive about mashing out the same guaranteed air string juggles every time and then eventually doing a super.
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>>122866205
>>122879220
>>122879442
>>122879842
>>122880013
Uh-oh
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>>122880190
Sorry. I just wanted to show off something cool but there's knee-jerk fighting game faggots everywhere and it's really tiring dealing with their unwarranted bullshit.
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>>122880013
Ok obvious 16 year old nintendo fanboy anon. Go play your Smash. Like I said when you're ready to play a real fighting game like me know. There's a library of games on the PC from old stuff on fightclub to new stuff on steam.

pick your poison. you 09ers.... I swear.
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>>122880401
I play plenty of fighting games. Again, nice bias neckbeard.
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>>122880495
OK then what do you play? pick your game I'll stream it for the whole /cgg/ to watch me body your ass all the way back to super smash bros.

I have on PC:

King of Fighters XIII
King of Fighters 2002 UM
King of Fighters 98
GGXXAC+R
Blazblue Extend
Arcana Heart III
Street Fighter III
Jojo BA
Ultra Super Shit Fighter 4
Hell even Dungeon Fighter
...and more shit


Pick any of those games and let's go. I'll show you why your Smash is childs play compared to real shit.
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holy shit will you fighting game faggots fuck off? This isn't the general to sperg over that genre, seriously fuck off and stop derailing the general
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>>122881073
What does Smash even have to do with fighting games? Seriously you faggots are the worst, stop jumping down my throat for no fucking reason. I wanted to show some cool gameplay, so I did. Why does it trigger you so much?

And I'm not going to play you because I like to have fucking fun. There is no reason to play some asshole on 4chan and have a terrible time regardless of whether I win or lose just because I like a video game you don't like. Grow the fuck up dude.

>>122881253
Exactly jesus christ.
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>>122881337
>And I'm not going to play you because I like to have fucking fun.

Translation: You're shit at real fighting games. That was obvious the moment you said that stupid shit about Marvel.

>true combo

Kek. Fuck outta here.
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>>122882617
Your ideas about how Smash combos work are objectively wrong and my opinions on Marvel's combos are objectively right. If you can't deal with that then I suggest you actually attempt to understand anything you talk about.

And no, I won't leave because I was being completely on topic. This isn't /fgg/ scumbag.
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>>122882617
>>122881073
>>122880401
>>122880495
>>122879842
>>122879442
>>122879220


SHUT

THE

FUCK

UP

Nobody cares about your fighting game autism. Go take your retarded dispute to /fgg/
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>>122882749
Enough of the small talk. Just fight me in one of the games I mentioned earlier. I'm not here to discuss whether of not your shitty wannabe fighting game is technical or not and nether are the other people in this general. Now lets go fight so the people here can see how much of a fraud you really are, and stop making shitty excuses like "I play for fun" lol.
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>>122883274
>i play smash
>lol fight me in a completely unrelated genre to prove that smash takes no skill

Seriously, how retarded can you get? You must have a pretty pathetic life if harassing anonymous strangers on the internet to play a high stakes video game with you is all you have to do.
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>smashfags posting melee vids here

fucking leave now
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>>122883720
>>122883274
Nice samefag.
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>>122883785
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>>122883948
The shitty anime reaction images gave it away. Go back to /b/ lowlife.
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>>122883406
>Still talking

That is why you 09ers are completely garbage at fighting games. You do so much with your mouth that I'm beginning to think you give oral full time. And then of all the games you bring Smash of all games lol. Literal hot garbage.

Again talk is cheap. I challenge you. This is vidya, what do you got to lose beside your already small e-penis? But keep ignoring my request lol.
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>>122884076
Nobody cares about your pathetic pride. You are literally waving your dick on an anonymous forum in a thread that isn't even related to the games you're trying to talk about.

In the end you're still just some neckbeard with no real life because all you do is sit on your ass and act superior about playing one game all the time instead of the other.
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>>122883785
Kill yourself and then kill yourself again in the afterlife.

>>122884249
>One game

The fuck is talking about, I listed a bunch of game. You're really fucking stupid and mad.

btw still waiting.
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>tfw /lzg/ has a cute girl poster but /cgg/ doesn't
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>>122884545
Nice english third world shitter.
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>>122884663
No one gives a shit.
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Speaking of fighters.

That guy who mains Dante, Vergil and Trish in marvel because he is an avid DMC4 player is pretty cool, although I forgot his name.
I remember that he won a DMC4 style tournament at some gamestop when DMC4SE released and he was awarded with a physical edition of the game and a poster.

I'm fucking jelly of him. Just look at the game's cover, it so amazing.
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>>122885171
the only good team dmc player is kbrad. who's the other guy?
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>>122884917
>talk talk talk talk talk talk talk
>not playing games yet

Good to know you're all words and nothing else. Yeah, run off to your Smash. I'd probably body you in that game as well. Scared bitch.


>>122885171
K-Brad?
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>>122885591
You sound mad. Angry that I pointed out how much of a failure you are?
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>>122885527
>>122885591
Oh yes, it must be him.

Does anyone here has the physical special edition of the game by the way? That pizza box is pretty stylish, I kinda regret not importing it.
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>>122885715
It can't be helped. This is moment when you have utterly defeated your opponent to the point that they keep repeating the same thing over and over as if they've won or something. It's the brain damage, I know. Well whenever you do recover (and I hope it's soon) let me know and we'll fight.


>>122885903
Nope. I do regret not getting a hard copy for the pizza box, though.
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>>122886871
You sound upset. Mad that I won't play your games with you? I mean there is literally nothing to prove, you just came on here and started sperging for absolutely no reason. What were you even trying to accomplish?
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You guys are fucking pathetic. Let me break it down for you.

Smash is a fighter but it controls way to differently from other fighters to even be comparable. The way that combos work is by far much more complex than any of your traditional fighters. Because the only super free combos are the short but sweet ones like stomp to knee, ftilt to fair or whatever.

And even then with mechanics in place like di, you still have to react to what your opponent is doing.

The game is obviously easier to get into than traditional fighters because it's lolsmash but the upper echelon of skill is miles higher than the bottom floor.

Now, to smash-posting guy, you know good and damn well that posting smash anywhere will receive backlash. Why would you post it in cgg? Not only are these games single player but there's already a dedicated fighting game and smash general.
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>>122887609
>Smash is a fighter
Stopped reading there, Smash isn't a fighting game.
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>>122887609
Thought people would enjoy cool combos and didn't think someone would start getting all uppity about it if I didn't say Smash was a fighting game.

Guess people just have a trigger to shit on Smash wherever it's mentioned for absolutely no reason regardless of context. Sucks being popular.
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>>122887207
I kinda thought you were the one upset in this situation. I mean YOU were the one to came in here trying to shill Smash bros "TRUE COMBO" kek. and got rejected. I thought it was funny plus you that marvel line was hilarious. I chuckled.
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>>122888054
Nope. Did you even read the conversation? Seriously, BRs and other third worlders like you just shouldn't use the internet unless you can learn actual english.

And take your shitty /v/ memes somewhere else.
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SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH YOU AUTISTIC SPERGS

>>>/trash/
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>>122888170
This you >>122863929

This is the response you got >>122866205
Rejected lol.

"muh smash > marvel" >>122879220
>Still more cuhrayzee than Marvel.


This is me >>122879842

And then I challenge you, but your'e too pussy. So uh.... yeah. You do a lot of talking. How do you even gitgud at Smash if all you do is talk?

Stream monster?
Pot monster?

That explains.
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>>122884663
>tfw no 32 year old ara ara~ who rewards our cuhrayzee progress with snaps of her anus and a personal message saying: "you can JC my asshole any day anon-kun~"
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>>122889201
>"you can JC my asshole any day anon-kun~"
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>>122889069
o-okay. I was just about to post about bayonetta's ass but I guess I'll shut up.
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>>122889191
I mean I know you're from huehue brasil, but even in the third world there should be something better to do than challenging random people on the internet to "high stakes" fighting game matches for absolutely no reason?

Seriously, I wouldn't even want to play against you because your ping is probably above 300. Go learn to read and write english, do something with your life and grow the fuck up dude. Nobody cares about your fighting game ego. Who am I kidding though, you'll just continue to be worthless until the day you wither up and die.

Not like you even know what the term true combo means, lol. You can't even understand the words correctly.
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>>122889382
It's even funnier when you imagine what that would look like
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>>122887609
>Smash is a fighter
>a fighter
>fighter

FUCKING KEK!!!!

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jun/21/sakurai-says-smash-bros-isnt-fighting-game-completely-different-label-talks-game-development-fighting-genre-and-value-unpredictability/
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>>122885903
Tab got one for the Capcom Tournament.

Also, people talked about Marvel and I wasn't here. Fuck.
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(I see people are still talking about it sort of)
I like it when Smash players actually play shit other than Smash. Like... ChrisG. You never hear them talking all this stupid "True Combo Actual Technical fighting game" bullshit, because they know its retarded.

Just play the games and enjoy them for what they are, instead of pretending they're something they're not and being upset when people disagree with you.
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Throwing something together since I didn't bother posting anything in the last thread.

It feels like there's some things that could be easily broken if I messed around with them a bit more, but I don't much feel like playing the game atm so I'm just going to start compiling everything I currently know about the mechanics into a paste bin..
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>>122893383
hoooo hit it Boye!
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>>122893383
Godamn, as someone who is looking up info about this game, I am impressed. And to think that the reviewers say that the game is only a button masher.

Please keep up anon. I am interested in seeing more webms; and the pastebin would be more than welcome.
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>>122893383
Jeez! This is making me feel weak.
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>>122893083
Whoa senpai, you're forgetting jump cancel into ultimate jutsu in Naruto.
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wasn't there a strawpoll held for onechanbara? last time I check it was 19 to 10 in favor of being welcome into /cgg/.
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>>122893383
What game
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>>122893083
You work fast
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>>122893383
>Wanted to make joke entry for Onechanara
>These niggas bringing legit tech
Shit
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>>122898493
I don't know where you've been but >>122893383 and another guy have been posting legit Onechanbara Z2 Chaos tech for quite some time now.


>VST
Is there an achieve of the winners from previous VST? I'd like to have a look at it if possible. Thanks.
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What constitutes a continue in MGR on the final screen after you defeat Armstrong?
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>>122899316

vstyle tournament on youtube
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>>122899316
I been out of /cgg/ for a while because of the heights of shitposting
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>>122898493
you can make a joke entry anyways you fucking bamboo
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>>122900885
>fucking bamboo
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>>122900885
>>122902778
this isn't a thread meme, stop forcing it, it wasn't funny the first time boys
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>>122902929
well now who invited this party pooping bamboo?
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>>122899316
> >>122893383 and another guy have been posting legit Onechanbara Z2 Chaos tech for quite some time now.

Any other webms you're talking about are probably also mine. I mostly just posted gameplay. There was another guy that was dumping info when he first started the game, but it looks like he hasn't played the game in a while. I think there was a 3rd guy but I'm not sure if he posted much about it, then there was the one guy that returned the game.

>>122895959
>wasn't there a strawpoll held for onechanbara?
This one
http://strawpoll.me/5980568
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>>122900885
>fucking bamboo
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>>122902929
maybe you shouldnt have said bamboo the first time you fucking bamboo
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I'm better at fighting Rodin than i am at fighting the last Jeanne fight in the campaign. D=
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>>122893383
YOOO THAT NIGGA GOT SENT INTO OUTER OUTER OUTER OUTER SPACE!!!

NIGGA THOUGHT HE WAS KAMINA OR SOME SHIT.
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Do the Scarborough Fair pistols in Bayo 2 have any differences to Love Is Blue, or are they just cosmetic?
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>>122911758
you get the old strings from the first game.
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>>122887762
That just means you wanna be an ignoramus.
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>>122904789
>19 to 12 currently
too early to post tits in celebration of a new cuhrayzee member, but fuck it
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>>122889981

Not him but you should probably hang yourself for being retarded enough to link that as an argument.
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>>122919720
Actually him and yes I agree, seeing as there's melee boxart had the words "fighting game" on the back if you wanna be a stickler for what the developer says and not to mention, alot of fundamentals from fighting games actually apply to melee/smash in general.
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>>122893383
suddenly I want to see a Vergil(Trish can do something like that with a glitch/string) player send an enemy that high with stylish/flashy means
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>>122922476

Frankly I couldn't care less what side of the "Is Smash a fighting game" argument anyone stands on. I just want everyone who thinks Sakurai's opinion as an argument ender to be wiped off the planet for being the most obnoxious half-brained subhumans on the planet.
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anon who was bitching about right stick dodging here

i think i found the solution: with some tweaking i connected wiiu gamepad to emulator and it works surprisingly well

I went with gamepad because it's right stick is stupidly close to face buttons. Travel time is minimal and for regular up-dodge you don't even have to move fingers at all -- you can push it up with phalanx on your thumb

this still doesn't cure my motion sickness though
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I FUCKING HATE JOYS!

not as much as i hate sloths
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>>122929663
something has been bothering me for a while.

did they slap a bunch of re4 animations together into God Hand for the MC's combat moves?
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>>122933301
I do not recall Leon doing Druken Falls or Granny Smackers, where did you get that idea
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>Onechanbara
It's amazing to see someone with the same mindset as myself touch a game with great potential while everyone else that have never even played the game nor any of the other Onechanbaras, or hell... any action game that isn't on the list, they all turn a blind eye.

It just proves that most of you, probably 80% of you, do not qualify as a spokesperson for any action game title and also don't qualify to judge them. This also includes the Tales, Kritika, PSO2, GoW, and other anons that come in here and try to shill their game. Then, they get all salty when they get rejected by just one person from /cgg/. Learn how to approach a game you've never played before,you scrubs.


Good shit Oneechan bro, keep it up.
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Nintendo General is just a bunch of fags.

I'm sure you can answer this. How can I properly build my combo counter? I keep seeing this guys on YouTube doing ur up to 9999 but I get nothing but silver.
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>>122860529
>>122859328

Well for me, DMC4 is my main game.
I play DMC3 from time to time. And before then, I picked up Bayo 1 & 2, Darksiders 2, Legend of Korra, and Rainblood Chronicles.

Hell I even played some Spyro game that a friend of mine told me about and did combos in it. Generally speaking, most of my skills from DMC4 kinda transfer over to other games. I also played God Hand for a bit but I don't think I'm stylish enough in it.
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>tfw Dr.Ion and Demon bosses are the most difficult for me because I was conditioned/training to counter hit attacks throughout the whole game
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>>122938284
look up "pure platinum explained"

combo value is result of m*x formula, where m is multiplier and x is points

x is boosted when you do "regular" attacks, depending on type of attack you get various values added

multiplier is slowly increasing when you perform "special" attacks

geting hit will "drop" your combo, and game will "cash in" values on screen (hence "ka-ching!" sound effect) and you will have to start from scratch raising both components from the start
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aight so i keep forgetting to save the new version of the god hand pcsx2 optimization image

anyone got it?

i promise i'll save it this time
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>>122941123
nevermind i googled it and it was right fucking there
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>>122852637
>video unavailable
Should I be happy/relieved?
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So has anyone done a video or write up on why Bayonetta 2 sucks?
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>>122943419
Yoshesque.jpg
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>>122943419
Yoshesque makes a few convincing arguments.
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>>122943537
>>122943585
got links or just yt?
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>>122943708
She critiques it a lot in her LP and there's a Podcast that I think is still ongoing and it involves deconstructing the game. If you have never watched her in general I think you should anyway. Really informative.

voice makes my dick diamonds too
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>>122943708
Anything she does probably has criticism in it but the video called "About charge bullet" is basically 4 autists circlejerking every problem the game has right down to absolute nitpicking.
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>>122943984
>voice makes my dick diamonds
Alps voice is better even with bad mic disadvantage
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>>122923082
well, i can't say it's really stylish at all but in regards to getting an enemy that high in the first place it's not particularly tough with vergil given that you can do the catherine enthalpy thing of doing the swords launch formation over and over again while teleporting w/ spiral swords on and whiffing basically whatever you want

it'd probably look cool if you alternated between divekicks and helm breakers but i just mashed out divekicks here. when you start whiffing helm breaker after like the second or third rep of teleport->divekick+launch sword formation you start getting some hangtime but if you let it go all the way down they're actually too high to teleport back to so you just end up doing trick up

i think trish's glitch would be a lot more fun if she had a teleport because then you could activate it multiple times due to the enemy still being in a standing state when they get launched for that
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>>122946809
Fuck what are you using on your Judgement Cuts and Starfalls? They look sweet.
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>>122947375
He has a thread with them here http://s1.zetaboards.com/InfernalWorks/topic/5868005/1/
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>>122936615

ok whatever you say

Props to the Oneechan dude too, even though I don't think most people realize what he's even doing in that game, but sheesh, lay off just a little.

>>122938790

It's okay, you're bad at the worst bosses that matter the absolute least.
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Is it true that the PS3 version of Bayonetta runs goddamn horrendously?

I really want to play Bayonetta, but if the performance is going to be gamebreaking, then I can't really do that. I don't have a 360. I don't have a Wii U.
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>>122954857
It's one of the worst performing game I have played.
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>>122954857
It's so bad that people associate it with the game's limited success in some regions.
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>>122936615
Getting butthurt when someone tells you a game is not cuhrayzee has 0% bearing on the actual quality of that game.
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Finally got yakuza ishin, but apparently I can't record footage with the ps4 until I beat the game. wth
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>>122961383
that's retarded, wonder why that is
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page 9 motherfuckers. wth are you doing? it's weekend. Time for some cruhayzee
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>>122961552
Maybe they were afraid of spoilers. Yakuza 0 has similar restrictions. I'm just glad there's hope of recording anything at all. I can't even stream that shit.
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>>122955032
>>122957565

Wasn't there a patch for the PS3 version?

How well did the patch improve upon the launch game's performance?
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>>122962427
a few fps maybe, but I think it was mostly focused on loading times.
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>>122944182
alps is cute
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>>122962576
Well, I guess I have no choice. I want to play the game, but I don't want to spend another 200 on either a 360 or a Wii U just to play it. I guess I'll have to bear with the reduced fps to be able to experience the game.

Speaking of which, if I ever want to buy a 360, which one should I get? I ask this because I heard that 360s are prone to getting those red/yellow rings of death or whatever they're called. Is there a particular version of the 360 that I should avoid in order not to get this problem?
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>>122956965

>Those counterhit timings

Not bad, not bad at all
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>>122963005
Sounds like you're already considering a 360. I'd say just wait until wii u or 360 is at a more agreeable price. I played the pirated 360 version, and bought ps3 version after I sold my threeshitty. I rarely touch the game anymore.

Not only is the fps low, there is also a sort of motion blur that increases intensity at lower fps, making the game a chore to look at.
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>>122963005
I believe that only the first version of the 360 had problem.

I don't know about the ps3 version of bayonetta, but if you can, try to get the 360 one, it is just good.
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Guess I'll post some demo footage then. Excuse the getting hit.
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>>122944182
>>122962602

This is the gayest thing I've read in a long time

Th-thanks guys
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>>122963197
I am ashamed to admit that half was pure RNG. Fucking hate the red amazonian
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>>122964006

>that half was pure RNG

As a matter of fact I can tell you almost none of that was RNG, you minimized it pretty excellently.

Enemies do certain attacks at certain distances. Your usage of Rocket Uppercut+High Side Kick to crowd control the first Amazon was a very good use of a bread and butter tactic due to you timing it when it was "your" turn to attack. Carefully backflipping to space was also a pretty smart and well ingrained reflex. Also the fact that swing for weapons is really common might have given you a huge window of opportunity for CH timings, but you still took proper advantage of them. Also that sweep you did to the Amazon on accident was also a very good choice. You wouldn't have died anyway if she chose to do that attack where she jumps at you with her legs open, and her other moves are just standard attacks. If you wanna leave it to luck that you got that CH, you can, but everything about it in the end still registers as legitimate.

I'm not going to praise this as the greatest God Hand gameplay ever but it's insanely nice to see more people finally getting to grips with the game's fundamentals. I'm proud of you, anon.
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I'm sure my webm for retards is trolling me. I set the limit to 2.96MB and in the log I can clearly see every frame adding a few kb. Then at the last frame the size just goes from 2.800kb to 3.073kb. I tried again with size limit 2.90 and it still ended on 3.073kb
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>>122963442
I'll explain some shit about these 2 webm for those that may find it interesting.

In the first webm it starts with a heavy shot, dodge cancel, heavy shot loop. It increases fire rate and allows more control and positioning.

The moment I pull out the sword an attack is also parried. This happens when you switch to sword style while attacked. In this case I'm using a trick to switch styles quicker by walking as I shoot.

After the sword combo I switch back to the gunstyle. I do this after the final heavy attack because it allows switching a bit earlier. Though I goofed and switched to sword+gun style straight after.
In this style dodges cancel attacks at any time, and attacks cancel dodges at any time.

After that an enemy parries me and his friend hits me.
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>>122965380
In this webm, the first combo on the first guy I cancel with a forward step making it seem like he's hit by nothing.

The spins around the guy to the right are just repeated attacks and side dodges, allowing for faster attacks.

After I go back to the left I switch to the sword style after a sidedodge because it's quicker that way.

This stuff feels kind of good to pull off since the game is normally so stiff.
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>>122965380
>>122963442

Man, what I would give for a game like this that has customizable characters. I want to play a cute Japanese girl, not some dude.
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So, for any of the dmc guys here.

Anyone doing something with lady or trish for vst?

I know for sure that vergil will have a lot of coverage. =P.
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>>122967505
I was planning to, but I'm not top dog level. Sadly I just got a new job and there's not much time for it.
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>>122967505
I'm not even entering this time since I don't feel like making an entry.
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>>122967203
I understand. I often enjoy having a waifu to play as. But in some rare cases I don't mind playing as a guy if he's cool. This game wouldn't be the same playing as a girl, because it's so manly.
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>>122967203
play Ninja Gaiden Sigma
semi-joking
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Don't compare yakuza to NG please.
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>>122965380
The game is starting to look pretty gay. It spares no opportunity to flash the player some man ass.
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>>122971660
aaaand I now have to fight a guy in the bath while we are both totally naked with nothing but mist in front our man-dragons.
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>>122943984
>>122944073
>she
>it wasn't a faggotish cuhrayzee fuccboi
>that voice actually belonged to a woman
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Shitposting systems on.
Engage!
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>>122974782

What's wrong with her voice? Sounds like a normal woman.
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ninja gaiden sucks ass
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>>122976269
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>>122976264
I'm mourning the lack of faggotish cuhrayzee fuccbois you faggotish noncuhrayzee fuccboi.
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>>122976618

>that spoiler

Oh yeah?!

If I'm THAT, then I bet you're unironically a DmC apologist not even knowing about hangar exploit, at least 12 minutes ago
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>>122977027
doesn't make you any more cuhrayzee
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>>122977436
doesn't make you any less a faggot
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>>122978543
>u r a faget
>to a guy literally complaining about no fuccbois
Not even him but this seems self-evident anonymous.
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>>122979026
you say sumthin, ballblazer?
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It's so weird how the super-supposedly awesome ultimate fights of each ninja gaiden game just boils down to "repeat these few actions or die".
The deja vu is overwhelming me too much to concentrate
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>>122938284
>>122939210
I don't know if I can still help, but the TL;DR version of that video is:
>never get hit
>never let your combo string to end
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>>122939210
>>122981725
Getting hit doesn't kill your combo, I dunno why people think this for Bayonetta 2.
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>>122961574
I ended up playing DMC4 until 3am.

That damn Bloody Palace really can suck you in.
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>>122982078
But getting hit punishes your ranking.
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What are some good DMC4 Vergil vids? Bonus for posting your own.
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>>122978543
That reminds me. What was the concensus.?
Are F-Zero and Ridge Racer cuhrayzee?
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>>122934747
not just leon. that webm showed wesker's re4 axe kick.
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>>122981725
it does after a little while, just not immediately

pretty sure that getting hit decreases internal timer that counts the time until combo is dropped if you're not attacking

> bayonetta 2
it works the same across both games

>>122981725
>>never let your combo string to end
Combo (attack) string is not the same uninterrupted combo.

PKP and PPKKK are strings.

Uninterrupted combo is simple a sequence of attacks that connected and kept "combo values" from dropping.

That fucking "combo" word is very annoying to use.
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>>122982479
I still think we need a title for games that are at the top of their genre in terms of creative and technical potential. I wouldn't call either of them cuhrayzee, especially not ridge racer because the only flashy thing you can do is drift around the corner by spinning a 36 in the opposite direction.

Everyone post games that are the top of their genre
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>>122982479
Racing games don't really belong in /cgg/, so no.
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>>122984880
DMC3/4
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>>122980841
I've only seen a few vids of ngb and ng2 so i cant really say the same. However, its long been agreed upon that ng2 favors efficiency over all else so naturally you'll probably see mostly the same moves. But to me, ng2 will always be the cuhrayzeeist game. Surviving a fight on mentor or mn makes you cool. Destroying your enemies with 3/4 or more of your health makes you cuhrayzee.
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whats the best strat for dealing with those electric demons in dmc4se with vergil? niggers take forever to kill.
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>>122987773
summon swords

when they arent electric, lunar phase + summon swords

don't be afraid to spend meter
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>>122987773
spam summoned swords until electric off then
lunar phase
blistering swords
level 3 shoryuken
your opponent is going down
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>>122985290
I don't like this. You're saying that racing games can never be cuhrayzee. This is bullshit. There's just no racing game that is on the complexity level of other genres, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.

Imagine,
mario kart style eliminate the other racers. complete a lap to get extra hp
ridge racer style drifting
gta5 style air control
rocket league style flipping and rolls
f-zero style side-dashes, + forward dashes also possible in the air
gunfire in 4 directions, forward, backward, and sides, requiring the stuff above to aim and compensate
enemies try and fuck you back in the same way. requires side dashing, jumping, or slamming to evade attacks

for advanced play you could have chained dashes, jumping and rolling to a wall to make your wheels land on it, and jumping off the wall, rolling again to land on a car, slamming on his tail to make him flip and doing a forward dash, + upside down jump to launch that fucker.

Racing games can be cuhrayzee bro. It's just that no one has attempted it
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>>122951336
I'm only speaking the truth from observing the situation inside /cgg/. Most of you suck at cuhrayzee games, have admitted you lack the mindset needed for cuhrayzee action games, then proceed to shit on or try and discuss other action games as if you do not lack the ability to understand how you're suppose to approach and apply your skills to them, lol.


>even though I don't think most people realize what he's even doing in that game
And that's what I'm saying, but not just the Onechanbara games. It's all game. There's only a handful of you who do know what you're doing. It was nice to see the Onechan bro had a different mindset than the other anons who came here shilling shit.


>>122959110
You're right. I'm saying those guys who come in are the same as the guys already here. They don't know how to approach and/or present a game in its glory. Most of the time they spend is arguing with some anon who disagrees with what it is their trying to shill instead of just showing off cool gameplay and then continuing to show more of it. That's the difference between the Onechan bro and them. That's why we accept the Onechanbara games and not those games. Actions speak louder than words.

There was one guy that even got so hype about Onechanbara he wen't through stages of humiliation just to play the game. Then when he got home and threw it in his console, he has no idea how to approach the game from a technical level, because he lacks the mindset. Dude just went in mashing buttons like he doesn't have a brain, then he came back to /cgg/ with only shitty webms claiming that this is the quality of the game right before taking it back, lol.

I heard Bayonetta 2 is complete ass. Pretty sure they went in with the same mindset from Bayonetta 1 and that's why everyone is salty as fuck. The same happened with the transition between DMC3 -> DMC4 for a a lot of people.
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>>122971931
Now some nutty professor is shooting canonballs at me in this minigame and i'm cutting them down with my thousand folded meditatively forged stainless steel blade.
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>>122988590
what about DmC though, are we going into that game with the wrong mindset too
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>>122988590
>Most of you suck at cuhrayzee games,
Hardly. If someone isn't good at one that doesn't invalidate them. If you stopped and thought you'd realize you were making a sweeping generalization.
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>>122988134
well let us know when such a racing game is created :^)
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>>122988590
>Being so butthurt that you post retaliatory sneak attack shitposts like this
By all means, show us your cuhrayzee mindset. I could use a laugh.
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>>122988134
tfw never ever
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>>122988590
>Most of you suck at cuhrayzee games
Not really. Everyone is good at their respective games, mostly.

>I heard Bayonetta 2 is complete ass. Pretty sure they went in with the same mindset from Bayonetta 1 and that's why everyone is salty as fuck.
Bayo 2 lacks a lot of shit compared to Bayo 1 and it also changes things that were previously good into something that's less inferior.

>The same happened with the transition between DMC3 -> DMC4 for a a lot of people.
Yeah but DMC4 actually had a lot going for it compared to most games. Not to mention that the changes in DMC4 were pretty abysmal to DMC3 players due to how nerfed Dante's styles were. Which is why most DMC3 players have been sticking with the style switcher mod.
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>>122989226
What's your point o' elusive one?
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>>122988808
>are we going into that game with the wrong mindset too
None of you ever went in, though. And admitted you actually did could cost you your life. Be careful what you say next anon.


>>122989175
That's not my point. My point is how the same people approach other/new games. Like once NieR 2 comes out if the game is lacking some sort of standard feature that is present in most action games a lot of you will just write it off as not cuhrayzee for that one reason because you might find it frustrating. Maybe not YOU but others will. If you don't fit in this category do not put yourself in it.


>>122989468
I'm not butthurt at all. What is there to be butthurt about? I'm expressing what I see going on in /cgg/
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>>122990960
>I'm expressing what I see going on in /cgg/
The only thing you're expressing is what you feel on the inside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=113u9CjoKgw
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>Accidentally click "Concept Art" on DMC 3
>Find a shitton of pics I've never seen before
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>>122989810
>Not really. Everyone is good at their respective games, mostly.
didn't say or mean to say that. What I meant to say is that they suck at approaching cuhrayzee games and action games in general. They lack the right mindset and the Onechan bro is an example of someone with the right mindset.


>Bayo 2 lacks a lot of shit compared to Bayo 1 and it also changes things that were previously good into something that's less inferior.

And so, the drought begin. Well I'll just wait for someone with a completely different mindset to pick the game up. Man if only I had a WiiU I give it my all. What about the Wii costumes and weapon in Bayonetta 1(WiiU), are they just cosmetics?


>>122989810
>Yeah but DMC4 actually had a lot going for it compared to most games. Not to mention that the changes in DMC4 were pretty abysmal to DMC3 players due to how nerfed Dante's styles were. Which is why most DMC3 players have been sticking with the style switcher mod.

I thought DMC3 players were against using the Style Switcher or is that just Mr Blowhard, DK, and a few others? And did we even tap into the full potential of the Style Switcher? I know a lot of people were using it early on, but did anyone release anything with the most recent Dante and Vergil SS changes?


>>122991416
>Linking Park
Dude. No.
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>>122993156
>DT Dante has fucking holsters on his torso
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>>122993441
Fucking Kaneko
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>>122993229
>What about the Wii costumes and weapon in Bayonetta 1(WiiU), are they just cosmetics?
The Link costume in both bayo 1 and 2 gives you the parry ability, so you can use the acessory slot in another thing.

And the starfox costume in Bayonetta 2 changes the properties of projectiles in general.
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>>122993229
>They lack the right mindset and the Onechan bro is an example of someone with the right mindset.
It's not really having the right mindset. It's knowing how a game works so you can manipulate it to your liking. If you're skilled at one game, chances are that your skill will carry over to other games and help you pick up techniques easily. And the fact that the Oneechan guy was one of the few people who picked it up (while everyone else does not have a PS4) makes a poor excuse to claim that everyone has the wrong mindset. I'm willing to bet that the Oneechan guy was just skilled enough to discover things about the game, just like any other decent player would be able to do.

>Well I'll just wait for someone with a completely different mindset to pick the game up.
Just because you think something has yet to be discovered doesn't mean it's true. Bayo 2 is a lost cause and the game is shallower than Bayo 1. The only thing it has going for it is the Umbran Spear glitch but it means fuck all if you have to constantly abuse witch time to keep your enemies in a juggled state.

>I thought DMC3 players were against using the Style Switcher or is that just Mr Blowhard, DK, and a few others?
>blowhard and DK
DK refrains from using it because he wants to git gud with the vanilla game. Blowhard tried it but he's not used to it. They aren't against the mod at all.
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>>122993441
Considering vergil has Yamato's sheath attatched to his arm, that's not surprising
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Thanksgiving CMV

Who got that work?
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>>122993229
>bum-posting this hard
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>>122994091
Weird. I thought there was more than just that.

>>122994426
Anon, in order for you to discover things in a bring new game you need to have the right mindset. Skill alone wont get you there, because each time you find something lower than the standard you'll start to get frustrated. Someone with the right mindset will just brush it off and move on.

I already gave you an example here >>122988590
>There was one guy that even got so hype about Onechanbara he wen't through stages of humiliation just to play the game. Then when he got home and threw it in his console, he has no idea how to approach the game from a technical level, because he lacks the mindset. Dude just went in mashing buttons like he doesn't have a brain, then he came back to /cgg/ with only shitty webms claiming that this is the quality of the game right before taking it back, lol.

And although he hates musou games he then proceeded to buy Sengoku Basara HD after refunding Onechanbara, lol.

>Just because you think something has yet to be discovered doesn't mean it's true.

We shall see. I mean I'm just someone who doesn't take the negative so serious to the point of giving up. I'd rather ignore and continue using what tools I have. Understanding them and taking my gameplay to the next level is all that matters. And with dedication new things can be found that will benefit the new way to play the game. see: DMC4.
>They aren't against the mod at all.
Ok. Good to know. Can't wait to see what they can pull off in the future. I might even do a few things with DMC3.


>>122994785
Dude, this is the second time. Are you expecting some sort of reaction out of me? Silly anon.
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>>122996003
>Dude just went in mashing buttons like he doesn't have a brain, then he came back to /cgg/ with only shitty webms claiming that this is the quality of the game right before taking it back, lol.
That sounds like he was terrible at action games and expecting it to automatically do cool combos for him.

>And with dedication new things can be found that will benefit the new way to play the game. see: DMC4.
From the beginning, DMC4 always had potential because of the amount of shit Dante had at his disposal. In 2008 people were making full fledged combo videos that were fairly advanced. Same year when DMC4 was released too.
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>>122996003
So I've actually been wondering for a while how it is people break games apart and find out these new things and what have you so I might as well ask.
What exactly is the right mindset you're talking about?
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>>122990960
Just play whatever you want, and if you record some cool looking footage, post it here.
It is not necessary for every anon of /cgg/ to play, master, and own all the cuhrayzee approved games in order to post here.

But there is a big difference between just posting webms, strategies or talk about the game in general; and demanding that everyone must play and praise the game that you are playing. In most of these situations people even shit talk other beloved games of the general just to make their game look superior.

But well, that's just my opinion from what I've seen in the general lately.
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>>122996003
>>122994426
>>122993229

About Bayonetta 2, i'm the first person that would be happy if someone found some crazy tech that puts the game above its predecessor, or anything really.

But, i'm no researcher, i don't have the skill to do what the guys did with God Hand, bringing awesome stuff years after or anything like that.

Everytime i play bayonetta 2, it becomes clear how the game is designed around having witch time, and how you can't do much, either from a utility/damage point of view, or a style point of view.

And It becomes worse when enemies have such odd behavior, the audio cues for some attacks are misleading. But i want this game to be great, i want to do great things in it, so i'll keep playing and trying to do cool stuff, but i honestly can't see much happening.

But i understand the point, few people are actually willing to learn how a game work, and the game true potential, look how much time it took for God Hand (at least is what i heard =P)

I don't like games being overlooked, but i'm still in no position to be the one "looking"
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>>122996003
>Dude, this is the second time. Are you expecting some sort of reaction out of me? Silly anon.
If you're waiting for someone else to pick up bayo2 so they can prove to you that it is a good game, then you might be the one with the wrong mindset. How about doing it yourself?
Either you're too poor, or you're lazy. Either way, you're a bum.
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SO I've been playing Ninja gaiden 2 for a while now (I've just gotten to Genshin on mentor and done about 7 of the challenges completely) and I'm wondering, how does Razor's Edge compare to NG2? I'm really enjoying NG2 and I wanna know if I should buy NG3 or not.
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>>122998059
game has a bunch of weird shit going on in it like enemies being able to randomly jump out of combos, projectiles are decent, other characters are decent, certain enemies are a bitch to fight (alchemists)

its not as good as NG2 but its not as terrible as the original NG3, i'd say go for it if you can find it cheap or are made of cash
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>>122997042
>expecting it to automatically do cool combos for him.
Funny you say that because he actually mention something about the game leaning towards this.

>DMC4
While most of the people who came in with their DMC3 mindset wasn't doing anything. That's my point.

>>122997209
In my opinion, having the right mindset means to approach a new game fresh even if it's just an update. By moving over to a different game and bringing the mindset from a previous game you played you can very much hurt your progression as well as interest in the game. Therefore, having a negative mindset instead of one that is positive.

Take DMC4 vs DMC4SE Dante. The mindset is simply this: "Nerfs!? We got DMC4 Dante so It's all good. Don't waste time with SE Dante, play vanilla Dante instead." without even realizing the fact that this is a newer version of an already old engine and that there could possibly be even more exploits in this newer version completely changing the way you used to play. The issue is that people are more interested in critiquing something rather than going in fresh. A lot of times people that play the most technical game and then jump over to something lesser spend a lot of time doing this, too.

I've heard people say it all the time that nothing will be better than DMC4 on a technical level. With this bias mindset you are removing yourself from all action games on the market. Nothing will ever please you. Even DMC 5/6/7/8 will not please you, because having the right mindset is more about being open to new things and accepting them for what they are even if they're a lesser.

>ChaserTech play Bayo
He never did anything with Bayo. Not to mention he has access to Bayo 1 & 2. When you get a chance I'd love to hear what went wrong. If you've explained it in the past I may have missed the write up. Yeah I'm kinda using you as a example, sorry about that.
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>>123004653
>He never did anything with Bayo.
I made videos for Bayo 1 and 2, mainly 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe-b4H1Ags0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKodwfe16kE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAEKRlBN8CM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZKuveC0n8 (Unlisted)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Wj1zgtNpQ (Unlisted)
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>>123005384
Every video was done in the training room. I think you know what I meant but posted those anyway.
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>>123005646
>Every video was done in a training room
Not the last video.

Also what difference does it make?
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>>122998059
it is a piece of shit, nothing compares to NG2's greatness
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>>123006017
With the exception of the one informative video he made only because one didn't exist and also because at the time he was probably really excited going into Bayo 2 those other clips are nothing more than test/sample videos as the title says. Again you know what I meant but you're still standing by >>123005384 regardless.
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>>123006632
>Again you know what I meant
I really don't.
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>>123006783
I think that the idea of that person is that you really didn't dig deep enough maybe? that you only scratched the surface then dropped the game?
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>>123008186
different person but can games not just be shallow? what if the game doesnt even have anything to dig for
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>>123008462
invalid logic.
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>>123008186
I did all I could do honestly. The game is ok but it really lost a lot of potential compared to Bayo 1.

For instance, being able to buffer circle inputs from the ground to cancel out of afterburner doesn't really work anymore. Not only that but Witch Strike is borderline useless since it eats your jump and even limits you while on the ground. (basically same thing as after burner in Bayo 2). On top of this After burner kick has more recovery frames compared to Bayo 1. Keep in mind this is just 1 move that I'm talking about and a lot of shit is fucked up in Bayo 2.

I think you are too optimistic about every game. Every game has their limit regardless what you think. If someone DOES come around and find some cool new shit in Bayo 2 that blows Bayo 1 out the water then I'll gladly eat my words but I just don't see it happening at all.
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>>123008832
I'm the guy i'm replying, and what i said is not my opinion, but what i think the guy meant.

I'm also on the "i can't see anything to save from bayo 2".

And honestly, the games in this genre already take a lot of effort, i imagine is not rewarding to dig and search for stuff if you're not feeling rewarded by doing so, sometimes i pick bayo 2 and think "i should give this game another chance", and i play it, and after half an hour of problems with mechanics and enemy design, i just give up.
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>>123009182
Sorry, i meant i'm the guy you are replying.

My bad
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>>123004653
>ecause having the right mindset is more about being open to new things and accepting them for what they are even if they're a lesser.
Remember when I posted a few hours ago that you're butthurt? This proves it. You're butthurt that we didn't accept your game and you've been overthinking as to why that is. It's not your game, because YOU can see it's true potential. It must be cgg and their negative attitude then! Lets give them a good ol speech of all my life experience and I'm sure they'll listen.
I find your lack of faith in some of us condescending. Also your views on this "mindset" rustle my jimmies. It is not something you can just force out of people by complaining about it like you do. It is something you develop over decades of playing games. Having the ability and motivation(AKA boredom) to look and play beyond what the game wants you to do, and maybe a little bit of validation and reward for trying like dmc4 does, and like some cgg members do for the noobs.

tl;dr You're being negative. Don't complain. Take action to make it happen, and nurture the less experienced to help them grow.
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>>123009182
Well for me I was excited about Bayo2 until I continuously played it while trying to look for anything new. There's not much other than weapon based mechanics that gives the game more variety but, again, more lost potential due to some weapons having bad movesets to work with. Like Undine and Takemikazuchi. You also have Salamandra, which has a great launcher and stinger attack but doesn't have the ability to actually throw enemies, only to slam them.

But overall, I really do think that Bayo 2 is a lost cause, and I know I'm definitely not the only person that thinks this. There's nothing redeemable about it other than varied weapons. And even that's not saying much about the game.
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>>123008832
>I think you are too optimistic about every game
This might be my downfall actually. Well thanks for the bit anyway. Sad to see someone even as skilled as yourself give up without really doing much though..


>>123010397
>Remember when I posted a few hours ago that you're butthurt? This proves it. You're butthurt that we didn't accept your game
Stop reading here. Bruh I'm the anon who not too long ago had a discussion about DMC4's maximum potential. Then I moved on to other cuhrayzee games that are still virgins in their current state because I like to find new stuff. Nice try though.

Btw I'm the same guy who mention my VST entry consist of multiple games (currently 6 but trying to get 8 in there) and that I have finished about 80% of the clips.

Now back to reading your post:
>It is not something you can just force out of people by complaining about it like you do.
I wasn't complaining. I started off by showing appreciation of someone else's work and their mindset towards the game vs the other Onechan bros. I then mentioned the other shills because I thought they should learn something from the Onechan bro.

>It is something you develop over decades of playing games.
So true. You do need experience, but not everyone needs a decade.

>Having the ability and motivation(AKA boredom) to look and play beyond what the game wants you to do, and maybe a little bit of validation and reward
This is the very reason why I play action games and why I go into each game with a completely different mindset.
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>>123008536
What are you even trying to say?
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>>122936615


> Tales anon
>Oneechan bro

Same person. I know there are idiots that showed up trying to push Tales games in the past, but I'm not them. The Xillia 2 stuff that has been popping up here and there was posted by me.

I'm mostly just posting clips from JP combo videos until I'm ready to start recording my own stuff. I haven't posted about it as much as I would like to because I'm still running through the post game and gearing up for NG+. That, and people seem to love their oneechans apparently.

It's nice that people seem to be genuinely interested in Oneechanbara Z2, but I hope that Xillia 2 garners a similar level of attention since it's a deeper game and does literally everything Oneechanbara does, just better.
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>>123013667
hey whoa I talked about tales a couple of times too
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>>122780010
Well Rodin says that when a witch dies, they wander hell for eternity. But then he says that Jeanne's soul isn't truly dead until it's absorbed to ANOTHER realm of the trinity. Bayo lore is quite cohesive, but I'm sure there are some things that they wrote in just for convenience's sake.

If there's hell and even a double-hell, then I don't see why there can't be an inconsequential spiritual realm that only gods have access to. Supposedly there's a parallel timeline going on as well so let's not look into things too deeply.
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>>123012718
>currently 6 but trying to get 8 in there
what games?
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>>123013883
> I talked about tales a couple of times too

I know there are a couple of regulars here that talk about it once in a blue moon. I was talking about people like the Vesperia guy from a long while back. They only came here to shit on other games and never actually talked about the good things in Tales.
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>>123013667
>xillia2 is deeper than onechanbara
Quite the statement you got there. Mind sharing why you think so?
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>>123013667
>It's nice that people seem to be genuinely interested in Oneechanbara Z2, but I hope that Xillia 2 garners a similar level of attention since it's a deeper game and does literally everything Oneechanbara does, just better.

That Oneechan success jealousy tho. You sure you're not the Vesperia guy? But I wish you well Tales anon, lol. Just make sure you're in the right mindset with presenting your finds and don't let others steer you off course. That's what the Onechan bro did and it work. Hell he even stress that he wasn't really interested in continuing the game, but the feedback he got was enough to motivate him to continue playing. That's why we love Onechan bro.


>>123014098
Just know that there's nothing DMC, MGR or Bayo. It's mostly going to be a fun entry with mostly comedic aspects FROM GAMES ON THE LIST. No this is not a shitpost entry with some random weird game no one has ever heard of like that DMC video uploaded by mike.

but there is one game that isn't on the list that I've been wanting to do stuff for.
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>>123012718
>Sad to see someone even as skilled as yourself give up without really doing much though..
A lot of people dropped Bayo 2 immediately after release.
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>>123015883
>but there is one game
What game?
have we talked about it before?
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So while recording for VST I found something. It's nothing too big but it changes on how to approach certain options.

It turns out that certain moves actually affect the air time/fall speed of enemies. It's not something I largely paid attention to until I managed to do an extension of a previous combo. So I'm rerecording and improving some of them.

There are attacks like Arc Slicer and the 2nd hit of Sonic Rampage that will cause the enemy to spin in the air slowly. Problem is that you have to spend magic for these attacks to cause this state. Managing magic is essential for extended combos in Freesia.

But now that's no longer needed since you have the first 2 air attack strings which will cause the enemy to have a little more air time. I haven't tested if they float at the same amount of time, but it's close. So not only does hitbox and weight add to the options of combos, but attacks as well.

This is mostly useful if you want to do combos that will switch from ground to air and back again without the enemy hitting the floor. Webm Related.
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>>123017526
>What game?
>have we talked about it before?

Not at all. It's just a side game I've trying to tap some potential into. I do not wish to say the name because I want it to be a surprise and because I like keeping things to myself.

>inb4 Ha0KuaiDeJian
Not seriously I'm not him.
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>>123019370
Twice in the same thread is a bit too much
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>>123021154
>because I want it to be a surprise and because I like keeping things to myself
fucking tease
can't wait to see it
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>>123017936
whoa, theres different weight classes in freesia? didnt even notice that while playing, i just thought my dropped combos were because of hitboxes
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>>123021948

I think his point was less different weight classes and more different ascension depending on your moves

Either way it's an incredible find
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>>123021948
Yeah. There's 2 different weight classes, 3 if you include the Golem enemy. The small enemies bounce higher than the big ones. The combo shown on the webm is viable only with the small enemies because of how high they get launched. Trying it with the large enemy will miss after the 4th arc slicer so trying a diagonal > side variant instead of a diagonal > diagonal variant will connect on them. The weight classes are also pretty visible in the winter stage due to how the platforms work.

But as >>123023293 said, moves matter more than the weight. But weight should not be ignored.
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Struggles to get a pure platinum on a chapter with a fully upgraded Jeanne...

Gets Pure platinum easily on a New Game File with bayonetta in the exact same chapter...

And yeah, both on same difficulty (NSIC).

Man, getting ranks with Jeanne is tough, she kills stuff too fast.
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>>123025319
Just use Gaze nigga
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>>123026156
I use it all the time when doing pure plat runs (except this NG file with bayonetta, that i'm only using on Out of body alfheims).
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>EV also coming to PC
YES! YES! I don't care if it doesn't release until 2017, still great news. /cgg/ you can only pick one, who would you waifu?
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>>123027428
It'll get censored to shit, 100%.
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>>123027428
i don't know any of them!
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>>123015883
>Mind sharing why you think so?
Enemies and bosses are much better, and there are a lot of system specific things that ToX2 has over oneechanbara, hence.

> Xillia 2 does literally everything Oneechanbara does, just better.

That's not really a slight against Z2 Chaos. The combat system is still good, there's just a lot more to do in Xillia 2.

>>123015883
>That Oneechan success jealousy tho.

I can't be jealous of myself. I am the Oneechanbara anon, and the Xillia 2 anon, same person. Maybe I worded that part poorly.
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>>123027636
>enemies and bosses are better
i haven't played Z2 but i have played tales, can you elaborate on this? bosses are a joke in tales, moreso if you play jude but
>playing jude in X2
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>>123027428
>EV also coming to PC
EV? I'm all for any game getting ported to PC though.
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>>123027489
Thanks for the post!
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>>123027909
Estival Versus
dem engrish
>>123027428
>waifu
the Jotaro looking one
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>>123027880
>can you elaborate on this?

I've mentioned more than a few times why the bosses are terrible. They have infinite armor and nothing you do can stun them. Every boss fight is just taking pot shots and chipping away at them until they die, or transforming ASAP and overwhelming them with the sheer force of button mashing. It's extremely boring.
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>>123028325
>the Jotaro looking one
SO i wasn't the only one that thought that she looked like Jotaro.
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>>123027428
What do the little clan emblem things represent?
Miyabi, I guess
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>>123027428
Arr rook the same
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>5v5 online matches
Team Cuhrayzee when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cptDOjvQimM
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>>123027489
>It'll get censored to shit, 100%.
Yeah, haha, ok.


>>123027909
What >>123028325 said.


>>123028539
>What do the little clan emblem things represent?
The school they're representing.

>>123029267
No u.
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>>123029881
when two of the best Bayonetta players decide to work together on that wiiu co-op thing for a combo vid
I.E. never
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>>123027428
>ev

it's sv the shitty vita game you retard now fuck off back to your general
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>>123027428
> Game with the worst gameplay by far is getting a PC port

Game is literally the anti-thesis of this general. /skg/ is what you're looking for if you want titty hype. Also like 60% of that picture is irrelevant since it's mostly New Wave girls, and the only one among them that's playable is Ayame.

>>123027489
Aside from taking out the ages, they don't censor any of the games at all.
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>>123030501
>when two of the best Bayonetta players decide to work together
I really want this to become a reality, the sheer amount of epicness alone...

Too bad we're going to have to wait for Bayonetta 3. Fuck.
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Is WSW the only game made by someone that frequents /cgg/?
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>>123030501
The game really doesn't support that.

You would need 2 great connections for something lagless.

And then, you would need perfect coordination from both players for doing in a good maner, and also, with care to not trigger the universal umbran climax.

THere is also the fact that bayo or jeanne have access to only one weaponset... So it is very limited...

The only game where i can see co op combos being doable and really dope, is Ragnarok Battle Offline.
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>>123031521
only game we fully know of? yes
theres another dude working on a game but we don't know much about it rn
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Okay, dmc players, and such...

I'm thinking here, if you could eliminate the style system, but keep the exact same moves inside dante's moveset, without the need of style switching or going to a menu, how would be done?

I'm thinking here about his 4 default styles, but if you guys can think of something including quicksilver and doppelganger.

I want to see if it is possible a control layout like that.
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Fucking fuck lady. Spent like 2 hours trying to record this shit.

This dumb bitch can cancel her jump startup with a rocket jump, but it has a gay timing. Allows you to do moves lower off the ground.
Also just wanted to show that both of her combo starters are mini launchers.

>>123032212
You can't fix what isn't broken. Next question.
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>>123032212
left and right directionals
more button combinations
some moves stuck onto dpad (static moves, not like godhand/freesia/tales)

its possible but why the fuck would you do it
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>>123032212
It's fine as is but if you really want to see such a shitty control scheme go mess around with set selectors in Xpadder. With 12 buttons on a PS2/3 controller that gives you a total of up to 96 buttons to play with. Have fun.
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>>123030641
>Game is literally the anti-thesis of this general.

Not him. What is the difference between that game and say... Anarchy Reigns? They both are 3D brawlers, right? Senran Kagura looks a bit more fast pace with anime air dashes, dodges and shit. Didn't get to play AR much besides the beta and first month after release because the game died fast as fuck, but every match was basically Get a hit - > Infinite -> repeat, and last I remember there were no dodges (forgive it's been quite a while) or any form of movement tools besides unsafe air attacks that move you forward and blocks/parries. A lot of moves had long start up and recovery that weren't cancelable. Didn't get a chance to play the ESports (lol) game type, but I did get a lot of Deathmatch and Survival Mode. My main character was AI Rin and Durga. Did any new tech for the game ever come out?

Also Senran Kagura bro, could you explain some of the combat?
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>>123032212
Royalguard/Trickster:
they would be done with style button, similar to MKH
Pressing style while moving will Trickster dash, standing still will make you Royalguard, Royal Release would be Lock-on+no movement+style, I would make Lock-on+back make you start quicksilver

E&I:
Rainstorm would be Jump+Shoot like DmC
Twosome time would be lock-on+shoot

Coyote:
Gun-Stinger/Backslide would be Lock-on+forward/backward+shoot
Fireworks would be Jump+Shoot

Pandora: Argument would be Jump+Shoot, Grief/Omen would be Lock-on+back/forward+shoot

Rebellion: Aerial Rave would be just melee mid-air, Helmbreaker would be Lock-on+forward+melee like Nero
Drive would be holding melee
Round Trip would be Lock-on+back+forward+melee(charge time will be greatly minimized)
Prop/Shredder would be Lock-on+Right/Left+melee
Sword Macabre would be melee+style, or just turned into a melee string of it's own

Gilgamesh:
Uppercuts would be Lock-on+back+melee (charge time will be minimized, like half)
Straight would be Lock-on+back+forward+melee
Personally, I would integrate Real Impact into a level two charged uppercut or just Lock-on+forward+melee
Shock/Shocking would be Lock-on+right+melee
Kick13 would be Lock-on+left+melee or melee+style

Lucifer:
Bondage would be Lock-on+back+forward+melee
Climax would be lock-on+Right+melee
Discipline would be style+melee

It's possible, but why the fuck would you do it unless you were trying to translate DMC4 to the M+K or something?
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>>123035304
Lock-on+back+style will make you start quicksilver and it will use the royalguard guage

>>123035268
Max Anarchy was rejected a long ago
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>>123035304
>>123032575
>>123032635

Is not about fixing what isn't broken, but i thought, maybe it is possible to do a better layout? In the sense that would allow more control while being easier, that is the main idea.
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>>123035405
it was both accepted and rejected
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>>123035536
git gud, the default control layout for Dante is fine/easy as is, it's your own lack of dexterity to blame if you feel like control is restrictive
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Has anyone else had trouble trying to switch cancel with ranged weapons in DMC3? I really need to get the hang of switch canceling Spiral with E&I in order to take down those archer-statue fuckers on DMD that constantly dash away faster than even Stinger, but I can't seem to speed up Spiral's rate of fire at all.
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>>123035856
Where i said that i have a problem with the controls? o.O

I don't have problems with the controls.
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>>123035405
>>123035581
>it was both accepted and rejected

Oh damn. I should try and keep up with what goes on around here. I remember it getting accepted but why was it suddenly rejected?
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>>123035960
tried shooting E&I after switching to it after a Spiral shot?
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>>123036027
>suddenly
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>>123031528
I'm sure two very good, very coordinated players could come up with something fairly stylish with a little pre-planning. But tag climax is even more barebones than Bayo 2's standard gameplay as it is. No torture attacks, no punishments, I'm sure Undine can't even freeze enemies, etc.

But juggling enemies between two players is within the realm of possibility.
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>>123036142

Yeah, but it feels like I have to wait a really long time after Spiral shoots before E&I start firing, so that by the time I can shoot Spiral again, I haven't actually gained any time. It feels like it's just the standard rate of fire with some E&I bullets mixed in.
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>Azure Revolution
>Action game
>not a SRPG.

Place your bets everyone.
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>>123036027

>suddenly

Mainly because the AI is braindead, the most cuhrayzee things come from TOD combos that don't look impressive and are admittedly real janky when it comes to meshing with the gameplay, the multiplayer just flat out doesn't work, so on and so forth.

It was too much of a mess in design to actually be cuhrayzee.
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>>123035268

I remember a post from a few threads ago that explained everything wrong with the SK games that have 3D movement, at least when it comes to deep gameplay, but I forget what it was. Bottom line was that SK game that comes closest to cuhrayzee status in actuality was SK2 but still doesn't quite touch it.

Something about the 3D games being more limited with its in depth options than the 2D ones. Sorry for being vague.
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>>123036027
newfag detected

it was in here for a while but then it got the boot

same deal with shinobi :(

>>123036472
we can only hope, but i doubt it
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>>123036472
>Valkyria
>even if it was a full action game
>made by devs known for SRPG
nah, I don't hope much for it.
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>>123036194
>>123036545
>>123036721

Maybe I shouldn't have said that. But I only mentioned AR because it was on the last one for some time. I'm guessing it got removed when anon made the new list which was recent? I don't follow the list much but I remember the guys arguing about the removal of MKH and something else on the day the new one was added.
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>>123037076
well thats because MKH is dumb and gay
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>>123037175
you are right about the dumb part
don't really agree with the gay
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>>123037076

I think every single person here knows MKH isn't cuhrayzee but is too lazy to remove it or even discuss it any more because we've just had more than enough of that.

Really if you took it off while nobody was looking I'm positive nobody would even bat an eye, it's just that insignificant.
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>>123037276
>>123037076
speaking of the list
>Sengoku Basara series
is Devil Kings cuhrayzee? Thinking of getting it.
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>>123037457
>mfw my sense of timing is so shit I can't Royal Guard in DMC, parry/flourish in MKH, perfect Parry in MGR
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>>123037406
Emulate 3 Utage.
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>>123037839
Don't worry, anon. I can't be MKHGODGUY anymore since they decided it'll be a great idea if we stealth buff the I-Frames for little babies. That was the last straw for me. Game fucking sucks dicks.
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>>123037457
>>123038398
Wait what
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>>123037995
maybe he meant devil kings specifically
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>>123038398
that still looks like it requires timing, timing that I just don't have
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>>123035268
>Also Senran Kagura bro, could you explain some of the combat?

I already explained what made SV bad in the past. EV is the same shit, just worse.

- same floaty physics from SV
- same tiny ass movesets from SV
- same bad aerial rave mechanics from SV

-Dash canceling is dead because it's very slow, and if you cancel a string it makes your next attack an uncancelable dash attack.
- All heavy attacks and launchers (anything that uses the triangle button basically) are uncancelable.
- You can't guard cancel anymore, you have to fully recover from a move before you can guard.

-Multiplayer is still an unbalanced mess, even though that's the sole reason the mechanics were nerfed into the ground.
-There are enemies that can dodge most of your attacks, randomly parry your attacks and put you in a prolonged stun state, and tech out of your air combos. You can't do shit about it because you have no options.

Game isn't even hard despite that because all you have to do is just stand there and Just Guard everything, then spam special moves after you build enough meter to murder everything in one go.

Jump Guard Canceling is the full extent of the games depth. All it does is let you loop your square string over and over, and not every character is even capable of it.

I wanted to like the game, but even on a purely casual level I just couldn't enjoy it. The VS games are just spin offs that turn up the titillation and try to cram in as much ass as possible. It's unfortunate since some characters (like pic related) would handle better and have much more developed movesets in the mainline games. The 3DS games could use an actual gun slinger.

>>123036695
>game that comes closest to cuhrayzee status in actuality was SK2 but still doesn't quite touch it.

If it weren't for glitches in the localized versions of the game that get in the way, I wouldn't have any problem recommending it to people.
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So... should we just remove MKHorraFormers then?
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>>123039013
Or just wait until after VST to see about changing the list?
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>>123038992
>(like pic related)

meant to add this
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>>123038692
>Wait what
First WebM was from vanilla, the second has the stealth buff that doesn't allow you to touch active hitboxes after guard cancelling the recovery time from parry. Pay close attention to the second one, you can see after the parry, guard cancel, the first hitbox doesn't even hit me. It just goes straight through her and then I block the next attack. The duration is that freaking long I kid you not. What's funny is that this update took place after just a week of me playing the game and actually having fun.
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>come back to /cgg/ after months of absence
>people are still wasting their time "should we or shouldn't we"-ing over whether shit belongs on some shitty list

It never ends.
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>>123039173
Every time I look at this thumbnail I see Airman.
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>>123040828
Fuck. Now so do I.
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>>123038992
Alight, thanks for the write up.

I'm going to be honest, I just want an action game with a bunch of waifus. I will still get into Senran Kagura just for the waifus and uh... other things. Not to mention, there's really not much to play on the Playstation 4 besides Senran Kagura and Onechanbara. Final Fantasy 15 isn't out until mid 2016. NieR comes out probably late 2016 or early 2017. Fuck this, after VST I'm leaving my cuhrayzee lifestyle behind for Dreamclub.


>-Dash canceling is dead
This waifu was on some armored core quick boost shit, though. muh dick :^)
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>>123042449
>there's really not much to play on the Playstation 4 besides Senran Kagura and Onechanbara
you just made me want a PS4, anon. I NEED THIS
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>>123042995
>Not buying a PS4 for Dream C Club so we can sing songs together and discover cuhrayzee levels of tech inside the Dream Club engine

I am disappointed in you anon.
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>>123042449
>This waifu was on some armored core quick boost shit, though.

That's just the swim suit mode. You get increased speed and attack power but you die in like 3 hits. The limit is different for each character but you can only dash consecutively a certain number of times (most is 5 iirc), and you can only do so out of a raw dash, not out of a cancel.
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Shit I just realized Sengoku Basara is on the PS4, too. Four games.

Senran Kagura
Sengoku Basara 4
Onechanbara
Dream C Club

Shit now I'm thinking hard...
I guess I could get Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate too (no bully)

Five games.

Btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqOL9lB4Ek4
How did he not win vstv? The first 15 or so second were so fucking gangsta. Never have I seen gangsta and cuhrayzee go together so well. If I have time I'm going to make a gangsta Sengoku Basara entry. Anybody known some gangsta songs? Someone contact Dosh.
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>>123044298
I like karaoke, just don't think they are worth buying a console. Karaoke with tits, however, maybe......
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>>123045264
>Never have I seen gangsta and cuhrayzee go together so well
I can't think of a cuhrayzee vid that use music that isn't weeabo shit or some vg OST apart for this
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>>123045463
Huh? DnB, celldweller, that sort of stuff is also featured regularly. Also a lot of dudes have some heavier metal stuff, or experimental shit.
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>>123045463
>mfw i want to use a band, but it doesn't fit the game i'm playing.
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>>123045463
I'd say vidya-anime OSTs, and metal make the majority of all combo videos music.

Although there are a few guys who like to experiment or put something that fits their game's atmosphere, like Mike with his God Hand videos.
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Speaking of music in videos. What song is this? It got me pumped.
https://youtu.be/xcpdfAgmQms
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>>123046549
This version of the song isn't in the BlazBlue games, but it's from the Blazblue series.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T_RdUPNg6k
This video is what got me into cuhrayzee. The Black Halo is also a pretty damn good album.

>>123046549
Seconding this. My song recognizer app is not helping me.
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>>123045463

>he hasn't seen the NG entries
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>>123047380
I got into cuhrayzee for the waifus then I watched a video similar to this one and actually started trying. A competent Vergil player is so fucking awesome to watch, it's almost hypnotic.
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>>123046549

Vocal version of Rebellion, a.k.a. Ragna's theme from Blazblue

Don't listen to the abortion that is the redone themes (e.g.: Rebellion II, Susanooh II, anything with a II at the end). Listen to it if it's originally from Calamity Trigger or Continuum Shift, most songs after with some rare exceptions are just bad.
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>mfw playing Dante in DMD mode of DMC4
Fuck. And I just thought that I was beginning to understand Dante and to be slightly competent with him, yet I cannot even complete mission 11 without dying.
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>>123048546
I feel you. I went back and practiced RG for a bit then was able to get through.
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>>123045463
Weaboo music works well in weird enough situations.
https://youtu.be/eLtdQA7u7BM
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>>123038398
>>123037457
>>123039582
speaking of which, is it true that DMC4 changed how RoyalGuard works compared to DMC3?
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>>123051545
I don't know. What I do know is from my experience Royal Guarding in DMC4 is a lot easier than in DMC3. Maybe I just fucking suck, still can't RG Vergil 3. I do like DMC3's Royal Release much better than DMC4, though.
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>>123047704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWyuY47C03g
Thanks.

>>123047684
I agree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4v87p_vDdI
Some of the tech is not that good, but his gameplay style fits pretty well with the song, and it was other of the first combo videos that I ever saw. I still like it to this day.
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>>123048935
Oh yes, that one seems to be the style that gets me out of the tougher situations, or at least it did in DMC3.

My main problem is that I am not dexterous enough to switch styles without button mashing, and I'm barely able to stun or lift enemies. Maybe I'm using Dante in a terrible way; I'll have to watch some tutorials.
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>>123047380
>Nigga post some Kail
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Currently playing DMC3. I am on Hard Mode and have just gotten to Mission 16 where you have to fight Lady. I want to get this mode over and done with so I can get to DMD and play the real difficulty.

Questions:

1. What is the best and quickest way to kill those blue-ish floating squids? You know, the ones that drain your Devil Trigger if they grab you?

2. What is the best and quickest way to kill those floating angels with the blue lightsabers? They are so fucking annoying and float around just outside your reach all the time. I especially hate it when they float inside of walls you can't do jackshit to hit them while they're inside walls.

3. What is the best and quickest way to kill those things that shoot red and blue arrows at you? Their timings seem so unpredictable. It's like they can launch their arrows at any time.

4. Is it just me or is the Beowulf weapon 100 times better for use against Vergil than any other weapon in the game? Whenever I "clash" with Vergil, I find that dodging it into those dive kicks works almost every time.
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Wait so

for VST7 we have to upload the video to YT ourselves?
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FUCK

Why is ninja gaiden so fucking hard. how do people even play this shit it's god damn infuriating. and here I thought I had reached maximum skill in action games because I managed to defeat vergil 3
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>>123055994
NG a shit
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>>123055994
Which exact version of NG are you playing and which specific part are you having difficulty with?

I can help.
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>>123035304
>Bondage would be Lock-on+back+forward+melee
>Straight would be Lock-on+back+forward+melee
That's just dumb.
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>>123054889
In all seriousness, I think Kail was definitely the reason for a lot of people picking up DMC. I definitely started getting into the series more when I saw his DMC3 combo video.
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>>123056472
and so is trying to remove styles in DMC
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>>123055292

It's always been that way, anon. But yes. Either that or provide a download link I suppose.
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>>123049475

>Mfw he used the theme song to my waifu's favorite anime
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What's VST?
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>>123057146

Well I was just wondering since traditionally I'd just upload entries to like mega or something and give the link
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>>123057259

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqpMeaoxOmk

Just read the description
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>>122767475
So, I'm trying Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and I'm getting pretty butthurt. I can't cancel my attacks to dodge, I can't change direction mid-combo, and I have shit for crowd control and keep getting swarmed by fuckers. Also apparently there's combos I can do? Do I get a combo list like Bayonetta? If I like DMC3/4 and Bayonetta, will I dislike Ninja Gaiden?
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>>123056391
sigma 1

so there's these soldier assholes right, who are constantly shooting at me and always blocking my attacks

somehow they always block everything, but i can't even stop and try to break their
guarda because of the gunfire. so I try that move where you like lunge at them and sometimes it beheads them, but then they block it or they do a counter where you fly straight into their bayonet.

And then there's the ninja assholes who dodge everything and throw explosives every 5 seconds
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>>123057332
Oops. Sorry 'bout that.
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LESS THAN A MONTH LEFT UNTIL VST7

I HOPE YOUR ENTRIES ARE CLOSE TO FINISHED
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>>123057393
>Also apparently there's combos I can do?
Did you really play for more than five minutes? Either way your questions would be all answered with a simple "play more instead of complaining on a random somalian cartoon's board" and "be less retarded".
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>>123057432

Thank you for telling me your exact problem and game. I assume you're at the Tairon Capital city right?

I'm not a god-tier NG player, but here are the solutions I have for you:

1. Guillotine Throw. You jump and then press X+Square to throw them. Then when they're down you can combo on them. You need to purchase a scroll first though.

2. Izuna Drop. Square > Triangle > Square > Square > Square > Triangle. Will instantly kill them.

3. Counter attack them. Get up close to them and hold R1. And a split second after they attack, press Square or Triangle to perform a counter attack.

They seem annoying at first, but there's plenty of tricks to fight them. You could also throw shurikens at them to stun them and then follow up with attacks.

This works with both the explosive shuriken dudes and the bayonet soldiers.
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>>123035304
how about,
assigning Gunslinger moves to L2, Swordmaster moves to R2, assigning D-Pad to weapons, Dark Slayer is accessed by Style+Melee, and assigning the Trickster and Royal Guard to the same circle(default style button) like you said?
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>>123058804
so DmC button layout?
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>>123058838
no, DmC had two dodge buttons that was nonsensical apart for maybe Vorgil
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I get that you guys are doing a theoretical exercise in "controller options", but this is the sort of thing that gives us DmC controls. Trying to find solutions to problems that have been solved years ago, just raises more problems.

By all means, proceed though. It's fine as hypothetical conversation.
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>discussions about removing style switching.
You guys are retarded for even wanting to think about it.
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>>123060126
he started it >>123032212
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>>123055994
>I thought I had reached maximum skill in action games because I managed to defeat vergil 3
you reach close to maximum skill once you defeat DMD Vergil 3 with no items
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>>123060662
that's not even close to maximum skill though.
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>>123039632
This ride will never end
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>>122871653
the game I main/tring to git gud are God Hand/VJ. Guess
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>>123060728
how do you know you have reached maximum skill? Beat NG series' hardest difficulty using only your toes?
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>>123061161
It's when you ask something and no one tells you to git gud.
git gud fag
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Dedicated styles since 3 exists not because it's literally the best thing since sliced bread. It's a result of design decisions made by vastly different teams that sculpted it the state is is today.

It exists because DMC3 designer team wanted to adhere to tradition and keep controls similar enough to both 1 and 2 (yes, 2) to maintain series continuity.

Thus majority of buttons functions is predetermined by previous iterations and cannot be changed:

Lock-on, sword, gun, jump (weird jump on triangle shenanigans aside) and devil trigger buttons are set by DMC1

DMC2 puts gun switching on a trigger, and from there logically comes weapon switching placed on the remaining trigger.

Not only design decisions predetermined the location of buttons, these decisions also dictated very specific modes of their operations like need to press lock-on nearly constantly, pause combos and charged shots and so on -- basically a huge part of combat system.

One of remaining buttons is B button (circle) but one button is obviously not enough to expand moveset in satisfying matter, unless you start to introduce canned light-heavy strings, which contradicts with how sword button works since 1.

Thus design team divides that remaining button into 4-5 buttons but to push these buttons one has to be in corresponding "UI mode" first.

We see later Kamiya, original designer who built the foundation of that control scheme, looks at what it grew into by later sequels and doesn't copy it but instead uses the freedom provided by new Bayonetta IP and no need to adhere to vestigial tradtions and redesigns both the controls and combat system.

DmC failure is result of NT's utter incompetence not the mere iconoclastic and "blasphemous" attempt of slaying the "sacred cow" of style switching, and should not discourage people seeking to do things better than before and go against the mold of traditions that only exists because of a sequence of very specific accumulated circumstances.
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>>123061857
cont.

Existence of option to redefine button functions in 3/4 is not only a quality of life improvement, but also a veiled acknowledgement that this button layout is grossly un-optimized from human usability standpoint.

Holding so many buttons at once is just not feasible unless you move at least some away from face button.

There is a reason why there are vastly different alternative button layouts per each style.
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>>123061857
>We see later Kamiya, original designer who built the foundation of that control scheme, looks at what it grew into by later sequels and doesn't copy it but instead uses the freedom provided by new Bayonetta IP and no need to adhere to vestigial tradtions and redesigns both the controls and combat system.

And because of that, we have to deal with limited functionality of weapons due to constricted weapon switching. Not only that but you have pathetically simplified and easy blocking mechanics and a DMC4 Vergil tier teleport. I don't see any reason why someone would want to redesign the style switching system when it works fine the way it is.
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>>123061857
>>123062176
I'm not entirely sure what all of this is saying, because you didn't reply to anyone specifically. I don't know if you're disagreeing with someone, stating obvious stuff just for stating it or...?
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>>123062586
Not him, but the gist I got out of it is; Style Switching is not some holy grail, it's okay to think of new control layout/methods for action games in general, not just DMC. Which means fuck all considering we're not game developers
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>>123062586
I literally expressed my point in literally the first sentence.

Dedicated styles since 3 exists not because it's literally the best thing since sliced bread.

The mere notion "it's perfect the way it is, why change anything" just annoys me.

It's literally the attitude of Pepe reeeing at people for even daring to think to change something, ANYTHING in his favourite magical girl anime.

Street Fighter has been around for longer than DMC and yet this series isn't afraid to change their combat with each iteration.
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>>123062781
I see. Well, in that case, it's not about being "the holy grail" it's just something that works. If it works, what's the problem? It's definitely the best way to house several moves on a controller, right now.
It's better than button hold modifiers.
It's better than going through retarded motions like multi-button inputs or double/triple taps, and even then we already have a few of those.
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>>123062872
"Why change it if it works just fine" is a valid reason to not change anything.
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>>123039632
We should remove the list desu senpai
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>>123062872
(Still the guy who didn't get the point of your rambling post)
Well, good thing you bring up Street Fighter. Because from the moment that they figured out that the game needed things like buffer times, some input leniency, among other things, they never changed it.
Matter of fact, other franchises were also aware of the fact that those were pretty fucking good and necessary ideas, so they didn't do it differently just for the sake of doing it differently.
Yes they tweaked it. They're constantly experimenting with it, but when the basis for something is estabilished and works perfectly fine, they'll be thinking of NEW shit, instead of changing OLD SHIT.

If this wasn't the case, we'd still be mashing with all our might on one Punch and one Kick buttons, instead of having a 6 button layout with all the strengths mapped out. That's a "controller" thing they figured out, and that's stuck with Street Fighter since 2.

The same is true for Devil May Cry. There's absolutely no good reason to change something that works, just so it's "different". There's no reason to differentiate yourself from "good" by doing a shitty thing.
You can get mad all you want about the notion of not wanting to change shit that works, but these games have been evolving since fucking... Megaman to Megaman 2 when they let you cycle through powers with no menu, so taking steps back on stuff that's fine is dumb.
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>>123063240
then it would most likely create a situation where anybody will bring their action game that looks semi-deep enough or bring up games that have been talk to death like DmC and create max anarchy because nobody seems to read the fucking pastebins
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That's the thing though.

I don't think "it's fine".

Coming from UI design standpoint any kind of global UI mode that changes the behaviour of how button works is a big no-no.

Imagine that the same button in your browser was used for both posting and closing the browser depending on a current mode set previously.

And I will repeat what I said about button layouts: i don't think "it's fine", when default button layout is inadequate and many players switch gun button away from face button.

Or when you have to change buttons positions around per each individual style to spare your fingers.
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>>123063858
>I don't think it's fine
>Meanwhile everyone else is ok with it.

What's funny is that I've seen this exact same conversation at DmC.org. People trying to come up with their own button layout while also calling the style switching system clunky.
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>>123063858
Well, I guess that's the reason why the UI game isn't doing battle design on games.

Also, several people play with default button layouts.
And most people who play these games don't even give a fuck about holding DT or charging shots or whatever. I sure didn't before going Cuhrayzee. The way the controller is set up is primarily for those players.
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>>123064068
>Meanwhile everyone else is ok with it
I repeat my point again.

How come it's fine, when so many people change their button layout from default one?
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>>123064374
Does it really change anything though?

The developers give you the options to change the default layout of the game. The mechanics are still the same.
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>>123064369
*UI Guy
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>>122991416
B-but he's not. You guys in general tend to blind faith alot if things here. If something doesn't stick to a very strict formula(in you guys' case, dmc4) then it's pretty much guaranteed to not be accepted. And if someone comes in here with a differing opinion, not necessarily contrarian, then they get shat on by everyone. I understand that we're a group and all and there has to be done sort of guideline but it's not bad to question things every once in a while.
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>>123064369
> Well, I guess that's the reason why the UI game isn't doing battle design on games.
Except UI design ergonomics principles applies to combat control design just as well because they deal with the same imperfect component called human hand.
UI design precedes both computers and videogames and has been around for literally centuries in industrial design and specifically in design of musical instruments which is close to action games in the way how controls for instruments are designed around human hands and need for both speed and precise timings of operations.

Denying these universal principles solely because you are not aware of them makes no sense especially when other design decisions that are also based on UI design principles are somehow fine by you.

> And most people who play these games don't even give a fuck about holding DT or charging shots or whatever. I sure didn't before going Cuhrayzee. The way the controller is set up is primarily for those players.
Here you basically admit that default button layout is inadequate for high-skill level play.
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>some anon just asked "would it be possible to combine all of the style into one 'mode' IE no style switching"
>I could've just said, "the style system adds complexity, makes it more efficient for both player and controller. It's also a sort-of staple of DMC3 and DMC4 that is inseparable to it at this point"
>I instead inadvertently added fuel
I want to kill myself now
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>>123064806
No, I don't admit to shit. "Also, several people play with default button layouts" referred to people in this community who still have shoot mapped to square. I have no idea HOW they do it, but they do it, and do it better than most others.
(BTW, this is a non-issue, as the game allows you to remap the buttons however you want. This is entirely sepparate from the style switching system.)

And fine,it does have to do with UI, but while you're scratching your head saying that it's bad and doesn't work and should be better, we already have a perfectly working system that most other games can't even COPY right.

I'm now going to remove myself from this conversation, because, like I said in >>123059454 this is a futile discussion. If you guys figure out the ultimate solution to this non-issue, please share it. Gaming will be better for it.
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>>123064595
> Does it really change anything though?
DMC3 specific but with so many holding buttons you HAVE to spread them around and depending on selected style you have to spread DIFFERENT buttons which makes "gunslinger" button layout vastly different from "swordmaster" button layout.

Oh and I forgot changing jump and sword around for easier JC.

These kind of heavy customising needed exposes a failure to account for ergonomics of a very big number of players.
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>>123065187
>This is entirely sepparate from the style switching system
I repeat once again.

While ergonomics inadequacy is separate from style switching, it is made worse by the need to have separate button layouts per each style in DMC3 specifically.
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>>123065271
So you think that there's a way to make a control scheme that's perfect for everyone to play? Are you stupid?

There's a difference between changing a button layout and changing certain mechanics to cater to a different layout. It's like saying (and I can't find a better example here so fuck it) Smash fails at keeping a solid button layout yet it gives you the option to play nearly any way you want. Ranging from different customizable layouts to different controllers.

Having the ability to change your controls around to match what the game has for you is one thing. Changing entire mechanics to accommodate for an easy layout (which ends up dumbing down the game overall) is retarded.
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>>123065271
>Oh and I forgot changing jump and sword around for easier JC.
What even.
I mean... I used to have trouble JCing swing and KillerBee. Then I played 5 months of DMC4. Came back to 3. Both are easy, default layout.

Most layout customizations are just shortcuts that players figure out for themselves, and are not universal within the playerbase.
I personally toggled the sensitivty on my dpad directions so that some are more sensitive than others, because for some reason, DMC4 thinks it's smart to have diagonals activate style switch, which it isn't. Diagonals should be dead.
But I know most players probably didn't even think of this and just powered through the system's stupidity, and maybe if they had to play on my setup, they'd be fucked out of their minds with stuff not coming out properly.

The default controller setup is a nice middle ground where all beginners can get accostumed to the game and then evolve from there.
This would all be a crime if there was absolutely no way to customize controls. That would fucking suck.
As it, everything is A-ok fucking great.
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speaking of ergonomics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPxB8YRfE7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SHca8hjJiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3TKdjdeGdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXoefdY1jfY
wish people made more stuff like these, whether it's DMC or some other game like Ninja Gaiden or Bayonetta
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So, i from curiosity talked about a possible more accessible or more reliable control scheme, and people are assuming that i have problems with the default style-switching...

And people are arguing about the default control scheme.
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You want to talk about UI retardation? let's talk about how so many action games have the dpad set to items and stupid shit like that, and then try to CRAM everything in other places in the moveset.
Trish and Lady suffer from that, but they have the excuse of being unfinished characters. Other games? Not so much.
Especially when you consider that the objective in all of these is "don't get hit, play optimally, body fools." So why are helping items even a constantly present UI option? Bad design.
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>>123065569
>So you think that there's a way to make a control scheme that's perfect for everyone to play? Are you stupid?
Yes I am stupid to aspire for things that are better than what we have today. Silly me, how could I even imagine that one can even attempt to make things better for everyone.

I will go back to my cave and will continue sit by the fire not even daring to dream of a future where I can post on a 4chan anime board.

From the start I repeat the same words and you continue to ignore them.

Ergonomics if DMC3/4 button layout is not perfect. It's STILL not perfect even if you change it around.

Seasoned DMC players who are over this barrier confuse this complexity of controls with complexity of game mechanics and think that one cannot be possible without another.

You're confusing historical tradition with universal law.

But why do you shoot down even an attempt to devise something better? Just an attempt to do better than "MUH 3/4"?
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>>123065861
>So why are helping items even a constantly present UI option?
because the objective zero in many games is "don't die, win using whatever means"
DMC3's DPad making you access useless menus (ignoring the item menu, but the game penalizes you if you use items anyway) is more retarded.
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>>123066015
I'd just like to point out that the only actual solution that was offered in this whole conversation, was a clusterfuck of inputs, where some even occupied the same slot as others. And the dude wasn't even serious about it.

So... yeah.
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>>123066015
>But why do you shoot down even an attempt to devise something better? Just an attempt to do better than "MUH 3/4"?
Simple:

If it ain't broke, why fix it?
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>>123066163
DMC3's waste of buttons with the menus ties into the same issues I was referring to.
I recognize that "Don't die" is an all-encompassing theme in games, but in this genre specifically, rather than "Don't die", "Don't die in a lame way" is a more appropriate description.
The games themselves tell you that using items is a lame thing, by penalizing it and making them harder to get, so why do they have so much prominence? It's just sending a mixed-message and wasting Cardinal+Diagonal dpad inputs.
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>>122997912
>If you're waiting for someone else to pick up bayo2 so they can prove to you that it is a good game, then you might be the one with the wrong mindset. How about doing it yourself?
Not him but my question is, how much of you guys' opinion is mostly just based off of you jerking it to Yosheque rubbing her squishy....errrr whining about the game's flaws?

>>123029881
You mean this is Anarchy Reigns with airdashes and waifus?!

In all seriousness though. Game looks sorta mashy and chaotic. I'll probably still give it a shot because team-based action games are fun but I dunno if anything will ever top AR for me.
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>>123066169
that still doesn't mean that no one should even *try*

His solution is obviously not gonna work, because controls and moveset and enemy combat design all work in active dynamic symbiosis and each game's component is fine tuned against each other (assuming that we're talking about competently made games here).

He's trying to change controls while still keeping the rest of the game intact, which is is kinda insulting for original developers because that's like saying "haha, you didn't think of this and I did".

Obviously these guys tried a lot of stuff but couldn't do it due to design decisions or technical problems and not because they are missed some obvious option that can be implemented by xpadder profile.
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>>123066430
>Not him but my question is, how much of you guys' opinion is mostly just based off of you jerking it to Yosheque rubbing her squishy....errrr whining about the game's flaws?

My opinion comes from me, actually playing the game...

bayonetta's 2 combat, is not great It is super broken, enemy design is terrible and the game being around witch time gives the player a lot of limits.
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>>123066430
>whining about the game's flaws?
It's called pointing them out. You'd know if you played Bayo 2 and Bayo 1.
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>>123066430
>jerking it to Yosheque rubbing her squishy
First of all: Ugh. Really?
Second: This is entirely it. I only played Bayo 1 PS3 version. Loved it, but hated it as soon as I started getting better at it (shit performance.) So all of my info on Bayo2 comes from Yoshesque's playthrough. Even though it was starting to kinda get annoying near the end, but I recognize that she really liked the first 1 and she was deeply disappointed by 2.
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>we've moved from arguing ergonomics in video games to responding to Bayo 2 bait post
END THIS FUCKING RIDE ALREADY
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>>123066430
UI guy here

my opinion that Bayo 2's combat falls apart after scratching it a bit is obviously based on me playing the fucking game.

I hold no reverence to youtube personalities, and think that yoshe's criticism is majorly overblown.

Bayo 2 has bad combat, but it's not Hitler yoshe paints it to be.
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>>123035268
>Get a hit - > Infinite -> repeat,
Literally no difference between that and juggling a scarecrow forever.

> and last I remember there were no dodges (forgive it's been quite a while) or any form of movement tools besides unsafe air attacks that move you forward and blocks/parries.
There were dodges. The only movement tech I remember is the one involving lean extender.

The latest tech I remember is some kind of counter attack thing where you block at the last second. Still, the game never had a chance. Sad, because I think it may be one of my favorite platinum games, if not favorite games of all time.

>>123036545
It was rejected mostly because the single player sucks fucking dicks. It's a little glitchy but it works. Too bad the game never had a chance to take off.
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>>123066954
>Literally no difference between that and juggling a scarecrow forever.
I know this is generalization but I really wish this "juggling a scarecrow forever" meme would stop since it sounds like people think constantly switching weapons and styles with accurate positioning while keeping the enemy in the air is easy.
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>>123067069
It's funny because scarecrows are the hardest to juggle :I
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>>123067116
because they go down even if you continue to wail on them unlike Frosts, Angelo?
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>>123067163
Correct. Also smallest hitboxes, get thrown around by lucifer pins, hitboxes are different between arm and leg scarecrow, JC spacing is different from the front, side, behind (which also changes between Arm and Leg)...

I think that's it?
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>>123067069
Is not the fact that is easy, or hard.

Is the fact that when you see a DMC combo, will be in a scarecrow, or in any enemy, modded to be in a certain room of bloody palace, alone, basically a training dummy...

I think it is really nice when someone goes and do a combo in a real enemy encounter, but i understand why people choose to not do so.

With that said, even if it is not easy, today is the least expected from someone competent at devil may cry 4, so it is not impressive anymore.
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>>123065732
here is similar video for Ninja Gaiden:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goz5QD7E_dI

and yet another for 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqp5DIW8seI
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>>123067970
I know what you mean. I'm recording stuff exclusively on scarecrows lately and I'm TRYING to record in different settings, different costumes, etc. But it's hard because most level layouts aren't open enough to not be a hassle to deal with while missing the same combo for 2 hours in a row.
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>>123067970
have you never seen a vst traditional entry?
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>>123063595
>create max anarchy
I see what you did there.

>>123067069
My point was that scarecrows are THE combo fodder whether you want to admit it or not. They're dumb, they don't have alot of moves and they don't do alot once you get started. Yeah, it's hard to do or
whatever but still.
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>>123068305
I saw them, and they were really awesome, the ones that happened in the actual level.

I mean, i don't blame dmc 4 players that much, since the level design is not great, but dmc 4 does have some really cool enemy encounters, and i love when someone does that.
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>>123063595
Yes. Hopefully.
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>>123064791
Sure, but he's being an obnoxious ass about it so his opinion is invalid until he stops acting like he has the right to be some sort of authority figure.
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>>123068390
wonder why it wasn't called Max Anarchy globally. It sounds better than Anarchy Reigns.
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>>123068390
>My point was that scarecrows are THE combo fodder whether you want to admit it or not.
We know that. That's why we like to combo them. Why point it out when that's the main reason people like to fight them?
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>>123054901
Anyone? I'd like a little advice from the pros here on how to best beat these particular enemies.

Please?
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>>123057259
reeeeeeeee
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>>123067970
Bloody Palace love/life. Do not bully BP chan. There are many places in DMC4 to combo enemies, players are just lazy. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least seven areas abeit a bit tight, but have enough room for you to get the job done. You know what, blame the camera angles in some rooms, shit is hot garbage.
>>123068390
>combo fodder
Oh no, let's not talk about fodder. You will trigger my bloodlust against Anime Warriors.
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>>123071737
>There are many places in DMC4 to combo enemies, players are just lazy.
Considering that Bloody Palace (and boss arenas) is the largest area to fight in without any bad camera angles, I can understand why.
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>>123070098
I dunno, it's like you guy's don't like enemies that require more thought or have a better grasp on the push/pull of a fight like arachnae or blitz.
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>>123073608
>blitz
blitz is has an electrical shield that's tedious to get rid of when you're fighting multiple enemies, teleports constantly, has super armor, and cannot die regularly without going through rage mode.
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>>123074019
the moment I learned you can RG blitz shield was when they became fun to fight. still tedious.
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>>123073608
angelo credo is cool, blitz is not. most of the time we try to showcase cool looking combos because dmc is about cool looking combos. if i wanted to think about my enemies, i would play god hand or ninja gaiden
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOy33J7MRmk
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>>123076369
>video starts off with biased bullshit
and just like that I'm done.
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>>123076369
Why do people do 2ominute videos on 2 minute trailers? I'll never understand that.
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So, the cutscene lollypops in bayonetta don't give you score penalty...

Boss Pure Platinum easy mode activated...

Also, i think i'll start trying to do combos, i'll save some checkpoints in some encounters and try to see what i can do that is both technical and stylish...
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>>123076502
>video starts off with biased bullshit
see every DMC review/analysis

Show me someone who dislikes DMC Valid reasons for extra kudos.
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>>123077618
What does DMC has to do with anything? Calm down faggot.
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>>123078002
Just proving a point. Would you rather hear IGN normalfags discuss DMC or someone that actually cares about the mechanics?
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>>123077618
>>123079009

But having good mechanics doesn't invalidate any other possible problem that a game might have.

The swim part in dmc 1 was trash.
The part between the second vergil fight, and getting to hell in dmc 3 breaks the entire pacing of the game, and the Arkham fight is trash.
The fact that only the Nero campaign is kinda good in 4, and it already has a lot of boring parts like the gyro blade puzzles, or the dice game, with the fact that the entire Dante campaign is pretty bad, and that you fight almost all bosses 3 times is a problem. Or that dante doesn't is lacking in the weapons department...

And i love those 3 games, but a game having great mechanics doesn't suddenly make all the other problems disappear...
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>>123079432
>Or that dante doesn't is lacking in the weapons department...

I meant: Or that dante is lacking in the weapons department.
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I googled DMC4 Hate for the lulz


>You need health packs
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/xbox-association-1000003/oh-how-i-hate-devil-may-cry-4-26282646/

>Nero haters
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/605600-dmc-devil-may-cry/65178215
http://devilmaycry.org/threads/why-the-nero-hate.11729/

>Are you ****ing kidding me? That video sucked ass, and definitely didn't deserve its own thread. Kail is an atrocious player.
Kek
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/put-aside-your-dmc4-hate-for-a-few-minutes-to-come-and-marvel-at-this-god-like-dmc4-combo-video.164420148/

DMC vs DmC
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/is-dmc-better-than-dmc4.452852414/

Then I googled DMC4 sucks

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/605600-dmc-devil-may-cry/65162633
http://devilmaycry.org/threads/legit-though-dmc4-sucked.17474/
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>>123079938
I tried but the way people write makes it seems they're twelve years old.
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>>123079938
This comment killed me.
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>>123080846
>DMCarbo
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So Kail is playing DMC again and this nigga still uses windows movie maker like we're still in 2005. Someone get him to VST7.
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Hwa!
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Alright anon! Sorry for bothering you again on this matter. It is finally time for me to make my final decision. I only have until tomorrow, I need to order some of these online so that they will arrive at my doorstep this friday - the same day I get either a PS3 or PS4.

Playstation 3
- Ninja Gaiden series
- Sengoku Basara 3/4
- Bayonetta
- Onechanbara Z Kagura with Nonono!
- God Hand (PSN)
- Vanquish
- Legend of Korra

Extras
- Guilty Gear Xrd
- Gundam Extreme vs Full Boost
- Tales of series (because of a certain anon)
- Okami
- Under Night IN-Birth
- EL Gato HD Capture Card


vs


Playstation 4
- Onechanbara Z2 Chaos
- Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi
- Legend of Korra


Extra
- Guilty Gear Xrd
- Gundam Extreme vs Full Boost
- Yakuza series
- Street Fighter V
- Dead of Alive 5
- BlazBlue
- Warframe (heard it's like Vanquish)
- EL Gato HD Capture Card
This has been a tough decision for me to make alone, so I'm asking you guys for help. Which choice would you make if you were in the same situation? With the PS3 I can fully support the cause, with the PS4 I'm guessing I will support the future of cuhrayzee. I don't man, this is too hard and I only have until tomorrow. Fuck man, I need more time. I'm I forgetting anything for the PS4? Feels like there isn't much, but a lot of stuff is on the way.
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>>123089309
PS4, gotta get that DOAX3 baby. also bayonetta on ps3 is far from the best idea

warframe is not like vanquish, but you can't really go wrong with it since its free
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>>123089309
>Playstation 3
>Ninja Gaiden series
>Bayonetta
PS3 has inferior version of Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta is almost unplayable since it's 24fps.
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Kyrieeee!!!!!
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>>123089912
>DOAX3
You mean the Dead or Alive beach bikini game? That's lewd anon.

>>123089912
>warframe is not like vanquish
>free
Ah well it's free I guess. Looks fun.


>>123091859
>PS3 has inferior version of Ninja Gaiden 2
Could you go into more detail, please? I've never played any of the NG games before, I know there's something wrong with vanilla 3, but what about updated version of that game?

>Bayonetta is almost unplayable since it's 24fps.
Is it really that bad? Dammit man, I was really looking forward to playing Bayonetta the most.
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>>123092342
the sigma games (mainly sigma 2) introduced a number of changes that aren't so great compared to NGB/NG2. check out the pastebin in the OP. its recommended that you play NGB/NG2 instead, but you don't have an xbox so that's not an option.

and yes, bayonetta is that bad. i feel you though, its the one game on the list i want to play the most, but i only have a ps3.
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>>123092342
>Could you go into more detail, please?
I think it's somewhere in the op but well, Sigma 2 is just full of bad changes. Broken balance, less enemies, worse framerate, forced kunoichi chapters, forced coop in missions, no blood, shit like that.
>vanilla 3, but what about updated version of that game?
Razor's Edge is ok action game but shit Ninja Gaiden game. There's just so many wrong decisions.
>Is it really that bad?
It is.
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>>123089309
Get a ps4 for yakuza ishin man. I just got it and it's a fucking blast. I'm curious to how cuhrayzee we can get it.
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I decided to change my control layout of DMC4. So now it's:
>X - jump
>SQUARE - attack
>TRIANGLE - specials
>CIRCLE - DT
>L1 - guns

For the longest time I had circle for specials, triangle for DT and square for attacks, but I noticed that I am not fast enough to claw my fingers into square and circle to do all the different special attacks that characters like Vergil, Nero and Trish have.
It's kinda weird to teleport or do devil buster now, but I hope this helps me to spice up my combat, since I barely put to use those special attacks.
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>>123092342
>ng3: re
Don't touch that abomination. While better than ng3 vanilla it is inferior to its ancestors. Buy if you want more ninja action but be prepared to be disappointed. I personally hate the game because it committed the greatest sin an action game can. You can button mash

>ngs2
Good if you like the waifus, but worse than ng2. They lowered the number of on screen enemies and buffed their health. The buffed health goes against the core mechanic making fights last longer than they should. Ayane's mission is hell because of this. Still haven't beaten it yet on mentor
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SikuwkX8atI

How much of this is actually possible for a human player to do without the TAS?
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>>123094413
>Still haven't beaten it yet on mentor

Ayane's mission is indeed hell on the higher difficulties. She is so underpowered it's not even funny. It's worse that you have to face about 3 waves worth of enemies before you fight the boss.

I'll forever hate Hayashi for how he completely butchered NG2 with NGS2. He had one job. One fucking job. And he butchered it. He literally removed more content in NGS2 than actually adding new content.
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>>123094413
>Good if you like the waifus
I don't see how, their movesets are so limited and boring in NGS2.
>Still haven't beaten it yet on mentor
Oh, just wait for MNM then...
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>>123094630
>She is so underpowered
She isn't though. Just use her exploding kunai a lot.
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>>123094849
If I used them any more it would've looked like it was the only thing I was doing
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>>123092824
>>123094413

So when it comes to Ninja Gaiden I'm stuck with the inferior versions compared to what is available on the shitbox. Fuck man, when it comes to cuhrayzee action games and wanting to do stuff for them, there is always some fucking road block in your path. I can't Bayo because shit port on the PS3 and I'm not interested in the WiiU or shitbox. PS4 barely has anything appealing, what is there is also available on the PC. I even heard on one of the podcast that God Hand from the PSN store has some issues too. Holy shit. These games are all over the place, it's all one big freaking mess man.

So Sengoku Basara, Vanquish, and some Onechanbara is all I have left.

>Tales of series
Ok so from my understanding this game series has some potential. According to the fans Tales of Grace is the best one. Followed by Vesperia and Xillia. After that there's Abyss. Vesperia is an Xbox exclusive, holy shit. So that leaves me with Grace and Xillia.

Tales anon, educate me on the series. Also which XIllia game is better, 1 or 2?


>>123092963
That would be the second game I buy if I get the PS4.
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If I buy enough Dante figurines, will Capcom make DMC5?
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>>123097221
graces is NOT the best if you're looking for cuhrayzee. casual tales players only think its the best because its brain-dead easy. avoid it like the plague. cuhrayzee for tales lies in vesperia (there is a ps3 version but import only) and xillia 2 (1 has a number of problems, the worst one being all bosses tech out of a combo after 4 hits). if your pc is good enough, you can emulate god hand and viewtiful joe. there are also the indies, you should be able to run those relatively easily
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>>123097221
>These games are all over the place
Oh yes, they are. It's a common problem of cuhrayzee fan - you need pretty much ALL systems.
>Vesperia is an Xbox exclusive
Not really, it's on PS3 aswell and better version with more content too. But no official translation. There's a fan patch though.
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>>123097221
>That would be the second game I buy if I get the PS4.
Cool. I'll probably post some webms in the next couple of days if I got something nice.
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>>123097221
man the only thing keeping me from shelling out for the ps4 is a Ninja Gaiden game. Hell I'd take ports of the old ones (even 3).
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>>123097658
Here are my specs. I'm not sure If my laptop is strong enough. I tried to play Sengoku Basara 3 on the dolphin and was completely unplayable. that could just be the emulation itself, though. I can play Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition at 1600 x 900p high settings without and frame drop.


>>123097658
>>123097771
>Vesperia on PS3
Oh wow I didn't know that.

>Oh yes, they are. It's a common problem of cuhrayzee fan - you need pretty much ALL systems.
This is getting a bit ridiculous man. I'll just have to miss out on some of them.


>>123098901
Alright. Also how is the PS4 capture device vs purchasing one. Hey! Could I just Stream from the PS4 and then grab the footage off of twitch from my computer? That would save me 150 bucks.

>>123100089
I keep thinking about the future and not what is current available on the PS4 because really there's like 3 games exclusive to the PS4 that I even care for and those games are already out. What is even coming out in 2016 besides final fantasy xiv?
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>>123097221
>These games are all over the place, it's all one big freaking mess man.

Not really, the vast majority are on 360. The rest you can play on PC. At least for the important ones anyway
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>>123101369
>Alright. Also how is the PS4 capture device vs purchasing one. Hey! Could I just Stream from the PS4 and then grab the footage off of twitch from my computer? That would save me 150 bucks.
That streaming thing might work. No reason why it wouldn't. Recording footage and trimming it is pretty smooth. Then you can either edit on ps4 or copy to your pc with an usb for webm converting or video editing. It's a pretty smooth process. Unrelated to cuhrayzee, but I just made this with footage recorded from a ps4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWyei28L2bY&feature=youtu.be

I also made this yakuza 0 thing which you might have seen, with the ps4 alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUke-mTK3ds

I'm really enjoying myself recording stuff and putting it together. I'd say it's even smoother than using fraps on a pc.
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>>123102339
also it's not possible to record anywhere in yakuza ishin so beware. I read it's posible to record everything once you finish the game but I haven't confirmed it yet. As of now there's only some arena fights that are recordable or streamable.
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>>123057393

>can't cancel my attacks

You can. Tap block quickly to cancel a combo strong and be able to immediately go into a dodge

>crowd control

Lunar is an excellent weapon for this. In reality all weapons can serve the same purpose, you just need to keep playing and learn the basics before attempting some more complicated things

>Do I get a combo list

In the weapon menu you can see the available combos for each weapon (though the lists omit all possible freeform combo variations)

>If I like DMC3/4 and Bayonetta will I dislike Ninja Gaiden

I'm not really sure what that has to do with anything. I primarily play NG but I also enjoy DMC and Bayonetta a lot

>>123055994

Heh, well wait until you play in master ninja
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Hwa!
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s023cSwpzVxm
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>>123114108
Who is Trent?

I thought there was something special between us, /cgg/ :(
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>>123104521
What's the point to answer to people that clearly didn't play for more than 10 minutes?

There is some basic stuff they NEED to learn for themselves, and if we take past threads into account is not like they will stick here after their shitty rant anyway.
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>>123118025
>There is some basic stuff they NEED to learn for themselves, and if we take past threads into account is not like they will stick here after their shitty rant anyway
some people are literally retarded. Nothing hard about being charitable and answering some questions anyway.
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>>123118295
.>spoonfeed retards thereby encouraging their stupid, easily answered questions rather than encouraging self sufficiency by shaming retarded questions
It's not hard to answer stupid questions, it's just bad for the community, which is substantially worse.
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Are there any other /cgg/ gamedevs besides WSW and that cel-shaded skatepark dev?
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>they managed to make a meme character look competent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO76E4Qvi_8

bump
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>>123119782
I don't think so
speaking of which,
>skatepark dev
I don't think we even know his blogsite or a way to check out the progress he is making
>WSW
wonder if the guy even lurks here anymore
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>>123119819
God why are all the remixes in every single new Dissidia video so fuck awful? None of them have sounded any good compared to the originals or even the half a dozen other fan mixes people have done over the years.
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>>123119819
ewww. looks like a dbz game
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>>123119819
>we could have had dissidia 3 instead of Final Fantasy Extreme Versus
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>>123097595
>will Capcom make DMC5?
Capcom will make DMC5 after they announce God Hand 2: Deistic Boogaloo + confirm DMC 1,2,3 remake using MT Framework for the PS4/X1/PC and all of them have the improvements DMC3 and 4 made + revival of Viewtiful Joe + localization of Sengoku Basara 4
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>>123114108
still trying to replicate the DT voice or something?
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>>123121971
maybe its for DMC in unity
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>>123092342
we all need more lewds in our life anon, they are life and hometown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie9GOInqDjs
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>>123109406
CANNOT UNSEE
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>>123122026
>DMC fangame
the very prospect intrigues me, yet makes me cringe to my very core
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>>123122927
what's wrong with it , anon?
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>>123123706
have you really never seen it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLRJ1qP5xTI
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>>123123706
why cringe?
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>>123094712
>I don't see how
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>>123123846
there's no mesh for the arms/wrists, there's nothing but empty space
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>>123124041
high potential of being self-insert fan fiction for starters
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>>123124241
what a weird post number

looks more like his hand is attached to his shirt
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>>123124069
> still no word of a NG game for ps4
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>>123126748
they are busy with Demon's Souls featuring Geralt from The Witcher series
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>>123127158
I thought it was Not-Onimusha with Not-Tenkai
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>>123127373
It's the result of my mpreg OnimushaXDemon's Souls slash fic.
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>>123127373
>>123127158
whatever it is, I hope the game is good + localized.
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>>123126748
they got their hands full/occupied
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Wait, is DMC4's lock on not changeable to a toggle? I swear this was an option.
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>>123127158
>>123128094

I'm not asking for a remaster. Just an improved port to the PS4.

>solid 60fps
>all dlc costumes on disc (that are already made)(ng2/s2)
>put in any costumes that were left out (ngb)(vita costumes to port/remake)
>fix bugs/balance issues (ngs2 especially)

>if they want more money, hold dlc costume contests.
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>>123129521
and I want a PC port for the whole trilogy. Wonder why Tecmo Koei didn't announce a Ninja Gaiden Trilogy for PS4,X1,PC already, it would be the perfect cash grab for them
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>all these talk of ports implying they wont just give us
>vanilla NG1
>NGS2
>vanilla NG3
>devil's third
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>>123130040
>Devil's Third
we already have a port/F2P version of it
https://ru.4game.com/devilsthirdonline/install/
any of you russian bros tried it out?
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>>123129746
I honestly thought everyone would be doing that.

>Halo Collection
>Gears of War Collection
>Uncharted Collection

I'd pay for a Dead Space Collection or a Resident Evil Collection (4,5,6)
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>>123130403
Next-gen(current gen) has no games, no backwards compatibility, so we re-release the old shit but with semi-noticeable bling.
X1 was working on a backwards compatibility thing for X360, though. Wonder if NG2 will be playable with X1
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>>123130263
the prophecy has begun
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>>123130612
didn't they put out a list of games they said they would try and anything not on the list was a lost cause
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>>123128530
Bump. Are you guys really just holding down a trigger button the entire time?
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>>123131106
>>123128530
I don't recall a toggle option for lock-on.
>hold down a trigger button the entire time
I speak for myself, but I only hold it down when directional inputs are needed, whether it's mid-air or not
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>>123130040
You realise Devil's Third is about as far from crazy as possible, right, why would you even want it? There have been videos/streams of it for months, it's a clunky third person shooter with the absolute basics of melee combat in place. Each weapon has 1 string and a couple of context attacks (sprint, jump, etc.), and enemies automatically die from mini-NG2-esque finishers after a few hits (no choice in them unless you sprint attack or something)
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>>123131281
mate you are misunderstanding my post, i don't want it. but its what they'll give us (or in devil's third case, have already given)
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>>123131106
you've got five fingers on each hand motherfucker, start using them
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>>123131369
Oh, my bad, yeah I misread it.

Also the Devil's Third on PC is just multiplayer at 60fps with all the p2win stuff, it's not the actual game.
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>>123131381
lmao

Pretty sure this was one of the complaints back then about Donte's weapon switching.
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>>123131616
It should be a toggle or have the option, I'm not making excuses for the problem. I'm telling you the solution.
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>>123131473
singleplayer is shit anyways
I want to play it just for the novelty of saying 'MC is a bald dude covered in kana tats that plays a sick drum solo in Guantanamo Bay' when I have to explain the plot to others, that and it looks so bad it's good
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More like modding a keyboard with a paperweight.
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>>123132030
More like modding your ass with my cock.
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>>123132094
Lewd
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What the hell has been filtered to bamboo?
Nigger
Double nigger
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>>123133193
Nothing, people just tried forcing it.
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>>123133406
I've been had senpai
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>>123133498
Baka desu senpai
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>>123133193
>he fell for the bamboo
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>>123133193
way to be a fucking bamboo
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How do i git gud at DMC4?
>Mfw barely beat the game on son of sparda
>Mfw cant beat Berial on DMD
>Mfw suicide is my only option.
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>>123135101
practice RG/trickster or play vergil!
also dont feel bad about dying to berial, he isn't easy!
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>>123135101
Change default button layout if you haven't already. You should be using all four shoulder buttons for more efficiency.

Practice RG like the other guy said, don't switch to Vergil because you're having trouble with the other characters, that's just stupid.
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>>123135374
My button scheme is this:
R1 - Style attack
Circle - Devil trigger
Triangle - Melee
Square - jump
X - Gun attack
L1 - Target
L2 - Switch gun
R2 - Switch melee
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>>123135101
>Learn the styles and weapons and how they change when in DT
>master Ex-Act
>get Just-Cuts down and learn how to conserve DT as Vergil so you can Trick down at a moments notice
>learn how DT changes shit for Trish and when it's a good time to offload your DT for that sweet, sweet, Pandora laser
>Lady teaches herself
>Fap to kyrie
>???
>Profit
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>>123135676
Don't fap to worst girl. That's worse advice than switching to Vergil because you're having trouble with other character.
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>>123135374
>don't switch to vergil
yeah that was a joke please dont actually take that seriously. RG didn't seem useful before because all the damage you used to take was negligible. but when each hit now takes a good chunk of your health, learning to perfect guard becomes incredibly valuable. as for nero, there really isnt much aside from learning how to properly use his moves defensively (shuffle, table hopper, etc)

>>123135836
>kyrie
>worst girl
shit taste desu senpai
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>>123135836
Other than being a jiggling plot device that's all she's good for.
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>>123135836
>Mfw i fap to lady
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>>123135994
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>>123135994
>faps to best girl
good taste
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>>123135994
>tfw not enough lady porn to fap to
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>>123136390
>Lady
>best girl
That's not Trish senpai
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>>123137245
them feels, brother, them feels
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>>123137361
>trish
>best
lol
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So, okay.

I'm getting courage to start working on combos on the only game that i'm decent at the moment: Bayonetta.(my game list will expand a bit, but i believe that bayo will always be my main game)

How should i approach that, i have already some places in mind to practice a few combos, but i'm thinking, should i start with only a basic setup, like 4 guns in both sets, and trying to do cool stuff with those weapons and general abilities, and gradually evolving into more advanced stuff, or should i go crazy and try random stuff?
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>>123137614
cuhrayzee = technical skill + style
you figure it out
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>>123137537
>Lady
>best
How's it like being attracted to a pig face?
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>>123137783
>looks at face
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>>123137783
Feels pretty fucking good, man.
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>>123137783
jokes on you, im not that lady dude. i dont even like any of the DMC girls! NG girls are number 1!
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>>123137872
Oh right, I forgot she becomes a money grubbing whore too.
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>>123137934
>NG girls are number 1
agreed
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Tell me /cgg/, do enemies need to be challenging for game to really be cuhrayzee or is what really matters just the combat system and what you can make your character do?

When you look at most games, the average enemy has simple patterns and a very limited amount of moves so after fighting them a few times they're no longer a challenge to beat (or never were hard in the first place).

How do you feel about that?
Do you just enjoy styling on enemies?
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>>123138106
The endless pontification on something as unquantifiable and unqualifiable as cuhrayzee in this general is pretty tiresome. That said, I'd say it's much more about what the player can do to and in response to the enemies than what the enemies can do to the player.

It's more fun to style on a resisting target, though. Nobody likes a partner who lies there like a dead fish.
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>>123137989
Yes, still prefer her
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>>123138397
I suppose shit taste can't be cured.
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>>123137783
>this was released 4 years earlier
maaaaaaaaybe you have a point
or Kamiya is better at women
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>>123138106
I've played some cuhrayzee games.

I honestly think, that is kinda of a mix.

If enemies don't threat you, it is not fun to style on them, but if they are too restrictive (Sloth, Lumen Sage), then, it is not fun to fight against them, and is not possible to style on them...

I personally love the enemy balance in bayonetta (one of the reasons i love this game so much). You have the enemies that were clearly made to be used in combos, but they are still a threat if you don't pay attention, and you have powerful enemies in different aspects.
Beloved is too big and heavy to be locked in a combo. Joys are fast and unpredictable, but really weak to wicked weaves, Gracious and Glorious will dodge raw wicked weaves most of the times, but are really weak to stagger and sweeps, fearless and fairness can be scary, but you can hit them with basically anything.

I feel that dmc 4 enemies are not in a bad spot, but there are some annoying things with them, like the ones infected with the thing that will attack you even when you are comboing them.
DMC 3 has some annoying enemies, but i can't complain about most of them, besides that the design in some is very lazy, but they also are a fair challenge, i'm bad at DMD, so i will not tell that they have too much health on Devil trigger, even if i feel that way, because is just a case of git gud.

I never played Ninja Gaiden, but i believe that the point of the series are the hard enemies, so, anyone that understands NG can tell their feelings.
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>>123138651
Both
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>>123138357
Meh, it's okay if she's kinky and not a whale.

Gotta be able to try out different positions and keep her lifted up.
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>>123138880
i'd say NG enemies are in the same boat as DMC4's. some enemies are decent but some (incendiary ninjas, ghost fish) are straight fuckin whack.
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>>123139103
shut up cunt
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>>123138106
DMC autists definitely don't mind shit enemies.

Why else would they still be fighting scarecrows after thousands of hours?
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WHO THE FUCK DESIGNED THIS CHIMERA SHIT IND MC4
THEY RUIN MY SSS COMBOS EVERY GUVBKHIGN TIME
GOD I HATE THIS GAME.
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>>123139243
>WHO THE FUCK DESIGNED THIS CHIMERA SHIT
people who were tasked to pad out the enemy roster
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>>123139208
okay dude
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>>123139357
>>123139357
>>123139357
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>>123139208
>>>/v/
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>>123139208
>fighting scarecrows after thousands of hours?
Considering they're basically ragdolls the second you touch them, it's less about fighting them and more about practising moves/timing.
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