/smtg/ - Shin Megami Tensei General

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1st for Hoy

Looks like I fucked up the OP a bit. Sorry guys.

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3rd for hoy

>>122754659
Why? Because of the
>Shin Megami Tensei:IV: Final Famitsu Preview
?

That was already in the last thread.

>>122754754
I forgot to fix it though.

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>Having Final as part of the game's title
It's just so confusing for fuck's sake. Everything next to IV: Final sound like it's the last thing of something.

>>122756597
>Searching for IV Final's battle theme extended on Youtube
>Most results are IV Final Boss battle themes

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>>122756597
>>122757319
I think that's complaining more than we need.
If you search "shin megami tensei iv final battle theme" the first two results are the extended versions of both the battle and boss theme for IV Final

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>3 ips

So who's the hero, who's the chaos hero and who's the law hero. I need to know if you guys are gonna try to kill me soon or what.

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>The latest issue of Weekly Famitsu has the results of a recent poll conducted by the magazine regarding which Koei Tecmo Warriors (or Musou) collaboration Japanese fans want to see happen next.

>Game Department (plus comment from the makers)

>Touken Ranbu Online – “We’d certainly like to play it, so we’d like to look into making it a reality, but right now we’re focusing on the PC and smartphone versions.”
>Type-Moon – “I want to play a Saber-like game where you wipe out an army of seaweed that fill the screen.” (Co-founder Takashi Takeuchi)
>Fire Emblem – No comment from the makers.
>Neoromance – “Should we seriously propose it?”
>Final Fantasy – “The Forgotten Capital quest could be hot.” (Producer Yoshinori Kitase)
>Tales of – “Thank you very much, but there aren’t any plans.”
>Kantai Collection – No comment from the makers.
>Atelier – “Maybe if it has synthesis and collection elements, it will be more RPG-like.”
>Shin Megami Tensei – “Get in touch with us anytime.” (Producer Kazuyuki Yamai)
>Persona – “It’d be interesting if we could make it one day.” (PR)

I'd like to think the 4 votes that /smtg/ made helped achieve this

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>>122760707
>Shin Megami Tensei – “Get in touch with us anytime.”

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>Demons that ambush the Protagonist will start off with smirk

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>>122758348
The normal battle theme is better than the boss one.

>>122742815
I hope you die.

>>122760707
What would the SMT roster be?

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Legit laughed out loud. SJ is becoming one of my favourite DS games.

>>122761671
Raidou and every single human and demon cosplaying as Raidou.

>>122742178
Would these be strictly mainline or is everything in the SMT family involved?

>>122761876
I imagined it was everything in the SMT family. Which is like what, 20 or so games at this point?

>>122761671
Every SMT Protag including Spinoffs.

This includes Devil Children riding their demon partners around.

Also the obligatory Lucifer.

>>122756597
>Final sound like it's the last thing of something.
That's because it is you mongoloid.

>>122763746
He's a hoyposter, they're special needs children, okay? Treat them nicely.

>>122762835
>there are 16 mainline games
You what?

>>122761790
Its already my favorite SMT.

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>>122763746
I guess I wasn't clear.
For instance:
>Shin Megami Tensei:IV: Final Famitsu Preview
or
>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final Trailer 1
For some reason my eyes focus right into Final Famitsu Preview and Final Trailer, which sounds like, well, it's the final preview/trailer.

>>122763820
Up yours lawfag.

Sukuna-Hikona is the guardian of the Ark, which is where Krishna is sealed in Tokyo.

Final Protag helps the Poly free him.

Also Jonathan admits in that one screenshot that they're no longer human. So he's fine being a girl now.

>>122763638
>mirai anon makes an inglorious return with 3d models to shitpost with

Obviously there would to be a jack frost with the other jack forms as costumes

Is the 11/26 2015 issue of Famitsu the magazine with the latest scans of IVF?

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How the fuck do I find the devastating in Tokyo cosmos

>>122771775
Devas*

>>122771775
Go to the North, South East and West points on the map and they'll show up as a pink demon thing

That quest is a fucking pain

>>122760707
Oh holy fuck.
Hero
Aleph
Zayin
Space Marine
Jimenez + Bugaboo
Zelenin + Mastema/Power
Include these playable characters and I will drop all my fucking macca.

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>>122760907

>>122760707
I want Digital Devil Saga and Devil Summoner characters to be in it.

Wanna play as Nemissa and Roland.

>>122764252
In an ideal world we could just stick all that stuff under the info pastebin. The OP is starting to look a little cluttered anyway.

Is the anon who made it still here?

>>122776950
which pastebin specifically?
also I just noticed the OP is using the outdated tips and tricks pastebin
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>>122777145
The one for IVF info.

>>122777369
I can make an updated one, the problem is getting the OPs to put it up there, the tips and tricks was updated weeks ago but somewhere along the line we reverted to the old one

>>122777937
I'd like to think the trick is to post a fully updated version of the OP so the next fag to make a thread has to just copy-paste and not think about fixing shit.

>>122778125
so what exactly did we want to do with the paste?
Just put the video links in the IV FINAL Info paste to ease clutter?

>>122778438
That, and update any sort of interview links and such if there's stuff that hasn't been added.

>>122778582
Well if someone can help compile all the stuff we've gotten I'll gladly make a new paste

>>122778698
I'll look into working on it after class. Not even sure why I'm bothering if I'm going to drop out. Guess it can't hurt if I decide to come back.

>>122778698
Crap, something came up
If no one has done it by the time I'm back I'll do it
>>122779154
don't do it anon, I regret that every day

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>>122779154
What he >>122779328 said

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Is SMT /fa/?

>>122783743
Flynn is, the rest of the protagonists are more functional than aesthetic.

>>122783743
SMT hero is

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>>122783743
I think hikaru's head would fit alot better on here, I might try it

>>122783743
Fuck i would love to buy that red jacket.

>>122784851
Hikaru's head would look way better

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This is the best I'm gonna do

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Actually thats too big, too easy to see the flaws

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>>122787747
I like it anon.

>>122787993
You're missing SMT's and FEATURING DANTE FROM DEVIL MAY CRY logos.

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who here /jonposting/

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>>122788415
>survived Law vs Chaos shitposting
>lived long enough for Jon vs Hoy posting
JUST

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>>122788415
HELLO

>>122788173
& KNUCKLES

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>>122788512
Even as a chaosfag you must admit Jon has the most depth and understandable motivation of the main cast. Walter is just sarcastic smirk man 24/7

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>>122788863
Walter has an unique charisma. I never got swayed into a specific route so easily like in SMT IV.
And yeah, I agree about Jon. He was the most down to earth and logical of the bunch.

>>122788863
>Jon has the most depth and understandable motivation of the main cast
What depth? That he's too retarded to understand that everyone around him didn't have his perfect life?

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>>122789064
Not the same Anon, but
>And yeah, I agree about Jon. He was the most down to earth and logical of the bunch
>This coming from a chaosfag
Surprising, but nice.

>>122789486
well first thing comes to mind is how Jon breaks his character to get fucking pissed sometimes like when he has that guy by the throat and says "Our fellow is the only reason I dont cut you down where you stand" and how even he doesnt agree with Tayamas version of 'Law' he thinks there must be a better way.

What depth of that level do any of the other characters have? I love walters personality but his actions have no clear motivation. Like I get it hes a casualry but thats not enough of a motivation for him to want to literally destroy his home kingdom.

Also Isabeau was just as much of a luxuror as Jon was

>>122790157
In general I like both Walter and Jonathan and I could get their reasoning until the point where both went whack. Jonathan wants to keep Mikado safe but he doesn't want to hurt Tokyo either, and Walter abhors the caste system and wants people to be recognized for their skills and actions instead of being bound by position and birth. And then suddenly Jonathan is okay with the destruction of Tokyo and Walter goes full Darwinism.
I'm looking forward to the Neutral endings of Final, I hope they still have stuff leaning Law and Chaos, but that they're executed in a way a reasonable human deal with.

>>122788863
Jonathan was cute, but his motivation was literally "fuck off the monastery can NEVER be wrong". I still liked him, but he wasn't as likeable as Walter was before hoyboy went full retard. And then there was his response vs. Walt's after getting their asses kicked.

>>122787993
Excellent work anon

>>122790157
Walter really went off the deep end. His sacrifice was decent at least, and there's a chance that he'll redeem himself in Final.

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Are there any differences between the American and European versions of Nocturne, besides cover art?

>>122802278
The European version plays at 50 frames per second.

>>122802357
Is that a problem or is it still fine to play?

>>122802278
One's called Nocturne, the other Lucifer's Call

>>122802278
Raidou and Dante.

>>122804442
No.

>>122804442
that's Japan

>>122795425
It seems like the plot of SMT IV happened at an extremely fast pace. I fell like with time Johnathan would have grown to the point where he would have refused to help destroy Tokyo, but he hadn't had enough time to grow so he deferred to authority even if he didn't like the message.

>>122666662

The text mentions that Krishnah is building an Ark somewhere in Tokyo and gets Sukuna Hikona to protect it.

>>122678862
>Who are those guys then?

Complete speculation... Maybe the white guy is Jesus, then? He has a big cross on his outfit in spite of Mikado not having any, and there's some imagery where Michael carries the lance of the crucifixion, which could explain why Michael's name is there.

>>122805312
>both jesus and YHVH in the same game
oh if only, maybe satan could come back too

>>122805720
>maybe satan could come back too
Where the hell have you been?

>>122784851
Do it!

And this game has no right of being so fun.

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>>122783743
Remove the cat ears and you've got a pretty cool outfit.

>>122787993
The head is still a little bit too big, but I love it. You did a good job with that Walter.

>>122807086
eh? really?

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>>122807086

>>122802841
That's the European standard so it's fine.

>>122808432
Yeah, apparently Final is exploring the theories of Satan being the Demiurge and stuff.

You guys think Hitomi would be into anal gaping?

>>122810378
Probably not.

>>122808432
The official blog for IV F had a section about Satan, Lucifer and the Demiurge in mythology. It ends mentioning their roles in past Megaten games and tells the reader to read up on them and look forward to IVF. It's basically the closest thing they could get to saying "Satan and Demiruge will be in the game with story roles" without outright saying it.

>>122776950
I just woke up, sorry
I've got an exam in a few hours, but I'll try to compile all the info when I get back

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>>122816540
Good luck, anon.

>>122817160
Uwa~! Isabeau is cute!

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>Red Rider sheepishly handed over a business card.

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>>122818465
Would you work at Fiends Incorporated?
>no air conditioning, food or comforts of mortal flesh of any kind (skeletons don't need them and they don't need electricity bills)
>get paid in death
>very limited promotion opportunities for non-skeletons (Ghost Q and Sage of Time have been working there for ages without even a payraise)

>>122818706
>>122818465
Is Human Relations hiring?

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>>122817625

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>>122821901
Oops, didn't mean to quote.

>>122822656
Zelenin is bitchy! Bitchy!

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>>122788415
Jonjon is cute!

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>>122823090
Shut up Jimenez

Anybody got that HACK YOU! gif?

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>>122826640
?

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>>122788415
My jon posting is a bit different!

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>>122788512
>not posting the obviously superior samurai
I bet you're a casualry as well.

>>122826769
How about the one with the progress bar?

>>122827248
when did he even die in smt4

>>122828060
He didn't. You take him to Skins and what his face. He supposedly died an "embarassing death" but that's all we know.

>>122828237
A common theory is that he was rubbed out by forces of law. Either that or he killed himself.

>>122830181
cant be a suicide. It was said that he felt bad about his death and thats why he cant rest in peace. if you killed yourself you're pretty sure you want to die

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Who is the Duke Nukem of SMT

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>>122830784

>>122830887
>SMTIVDexBuild.jpeg

>>122830971
>Duke smirked
Can you rename yourself in NG+? I want to to try this.

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>>122831379
Yeah, you can.

>>122831379
You should since if you don't treasures will remain open.

>>122830887
thanks for saving my edit senpai-sama

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>>122831608
I save everything

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>>122831492
It happens in SMT IV too?

>>122831458
Oh boy, this is gonna be fun.

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>>122832079
no it's just Soul Hackers

>>122832170
thanks for saving that one too

>>122831979
That sounds quite chaotic.

>>122833595
Record keeping sounds rather lawful, if you ask me.

Posting cut content.https://youtu.be/S91ZybjWVYc

>>122833859
Saving images without discrimination sounds pretty neutral in my opinion.

Also posting weird Debiru Summonah thing.
https://youtu.be/2fTIJM1Oimw

>>122754587
Heh Lucifer is a scary black man now and Merkabah has bare breasts with nipples.

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>Pascal the dog is here!

>>122836559
>the original demon summoning program was written in Pascal

Kinda weird to think about.

Hello,
I am developer of online component of Sheen Megami Tensoi NINE. Please feel free to ask about NINE game.

>>122837000
pls localize NINE

>>122837000
Can I buy game on amazon.com?

>>122837171
>pls localize NINE
Please? We at Atlus have the game already localized but in bad English. We used new 3D graphics engine to help bring demons to "life" but the problem was to make the humans look "better." Japan was a test to see if the game would sell a lot. NINE's sales exceeded us at ATLUS with an amazing 20 sales of NINE. We plan to have LEGION and MARA demon playable for Playstation VR.

>>122837217
>buy game on Amazon
If NINE you are talking about, then yes. I bought a recent copy of NINE and it was still brand new, with XBOX seal on the side. They are like $15 new if you like.

>>122837498
Thank you anon I buy SHINE MEGAMI TENSEI: NINE at www.amazon.com.

>>122837643
You forgot to say for the Xbox, you dummy.

>>122837643
Thank you.
Please continue to support NINE. It was my baby and my kokoro hurts to think that ATLUS put away MMO part of NINE. Please send letter or email to ATLUS to bring NINE to EVO.

>>122837760
Sorry I buy Shin Megami Tensai NINE for Xbox at amazon.com. What about anonymous?

>>122836878
Was it? I know that in some of the remakes, Nakajima gave the dog to the SMT1 hero or something, which makes the name kinda make sense since programming language and all, but was it the language the DSP was originally written in? The one in Tokyo Revelation was written in C based on the screenshot, and in Devil Survivor it was maybe C++... Was that something the books originally specified?

>>122837890
Excellent, anonymous.

>>122837958
Ha, I was mostly kidding. Pascal was named after the programming language, that's about as far as official info goes.

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Where were you when #FE was confirmed for being megaten?

why do so many SMT games suffer from random battles and crazy high encounter rates? even IV, which came out in the last few years?

>>122841525
I want some.

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>>122841556
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
But you must be just sucking on this, m8, play DDS or Persona, in terms of difficulty they're mostly for pussies like you.

>>122841556
>IV
>random
Surely thou hast placed bait on thine hook.
You can easily avoid the enemies in IV. You can walk awak and they wil literally follow behind you, like an inch from you.

>>122841773
it's not really a difficulty thing for me, I've played a lot of SMT games that I like a lot aside from the random battles and encounters every few steps, it just feels real antiquated and tedious. obviously a personal preference, I just thought it was something JRPGs were moving away from

>>122841556
They all have Estoma in some form so it's no big deal

>>122810378
Doubtfully. She's a normal girl, after all. She probably hasn't ever had sex.

WAKE UP

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>>122847452

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Well shit, I just got the Neutral route in SMT IV without a guide. I can also go Chaos if I choose to destroy the status quo.

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>Manufacture Ebony Tear before moving on to NG+
>Never summon demons
>Moan Bullet everything to death

So much fun. Can't wait for Sector D.

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Am I doing something wrong? I've been running a neutral team most game 'till I decided to waste some sources and mess around with a chaos team with Asura and King Frost. Right after that I get Law so now I'm trying to build a law oriented team and all the demons suck.
Did you guys grind for demon sources sometimes? Seems like the best way to get decent fusions going on.

>>122859431
Near the end of the game I would deliberately summon demons with sources I wanted to handle random encounters, as to naturally obtain sources without grinding. Other than that I really didn't bother with them too much.

You might be relying on alignment co-op too much. I really only worried about it in Sectors E and F. Even then, it was sometimes okay to just have all three demons one alignment, and the MC another.

People seem to burn themselves out trying to maintain a solid party alignment at all times, but it's really only necessary for a few DPS race bosses that heal frequently. I like to view co-op as something to fall back on when shit hits the fan, but otherwise play it like SMT 1-2.

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>>122860843
I see. My autism was tingling and I "needed" the co-op but I see what you mean. I'll try to adjust. Thanks for the tips. Just beat Ouroborus for the first time as well so I see what you mean with the bosses that heal frequently.

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>>122860843
And I'm neutral again. I see your point.

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How many people are neutralfags here?

>>122862843
I would normally consider myself neutralfag but it really depends on the game. For example, neutral in SJ happens without the human population actually meeting the demons/ being held accountable for their bullshit. It would fall apart so quickly because I doubt they actually learned anything. In SJ I actually prefer chaos, because the weak, sheltered humans in SJ wouldn't maintain a good world very long.

In games like IV though I definitely prefer neutral. Unlike SJ all the people in Mikado and Tokyo have met with demons and dealt with great of hardship, especially those in Tokyo. People like that are more likely to be grateful for the opportunity that they've been given and pass down what they've learned so that at least a few generations of relative peace ensue. It will still totally collapse in, at most, a few hundred years like with most neutral scenarios, but it would definitely last longer than in SJ.

Just finished SMT 4 Chaos route.. How come final boss was easier than Seraph sheep angel (forgot name already) ?
Anyway, it's a good game, should I finish devil survivor ?
By the by, anyone have the Infograph image on which SMT game to play?

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hey /smtg/
sorry
Persona 2 or SMT 1?

>>122864404
Persona 2 easily.

Though SMT 1 has its charm so you can play it after P2.

Just experiment a lot with your characters skill orders to unlock many fusion spells.

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>>122866615
Thank you!

>>122863840
Seraph had that gimmick skill. Also yes and check the OP.

>>122864404
P2 is a lot of fun

Why does SMT get shit on so much? I'm playing through it, just finished the police station, so far it's fine other than the encounter rate being retarded, but it's not like more recent games like Nocturne don't have that problem.

>>122871025
It becomes kinda dull to travel from the same looking corridors, encounter rate its not only too frquent but they have many enemies and many back ups.

Nocturne encounter rate is lower, rarely enemies get back ups and few enemies in it.

Still i enjoyed my time with SMT 1 more than 2 even with the latter better encounter rate.

>>122871025
It's kinda clunky.

>>122841556
helps with the tense atmosphere, increases the difficulty and reduces the grind in the case of DDS
I don't mind it in SMT specifically because the menus are almost always incredibly fast and the animations brief, so you can smash through a lot of battles in a short amount of time

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>>122871025
It's old and the map being buried in the menu is not great
I wouldn't say it gets shat on, a lot of people here rank it above Nocturne and IV

>>122876089
>the map being buried in the menu is not great
It's not in Orden's patch, and I know I haven't seen him around here n years, so this isn't a new development.

>>122876329
I know, but it's not fair to base a game based on its post-patch state

>>122876392
I didn't realize the majority of people here were fluent in Japanese.

>>122876465
I obviously didn't mean translation patches.

>>122830680
"Felt bad" how? I don't see how it rules out suicide, maybe he could come back as a ghost because he regrets committing suicide or something like that.

>>122876606
Orden's patch was primarily translation though.

>>122877470
I remember it being fixes for the aeon genesis translation
Regardless, the map fix adds in a feature that wasn't in the original game, and so shouldn't be considered as part of the base game.

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>>122871025
I don't know, I think it's pretty great. The problems caused by the high encounter rate is a million times worse in say, early Persona + Soul Hackers because autobattle takes so fucking long and can be dangerous thanks to tons of damage types/retarded AI. I've played through KMT/SMT 1+2 multiple times, but can't bring myself to finish a lot of spin-offs because of the sheer tedium involved in their battle systems.

Also, I've heard from a few people that they prefer the more recent MT titles simply because they're much more forthcoming with visual details/cutscenes concerning what's happening in the plot- unlike SMT1+2 which require your imagination to fill in the gaps and bring the scenes to life, much like a book does. I massively prefer the 'fill in the blanks' approach to earlier games since it allows the player directorial control and therefore is a more unique, personal experience that complements the multiple path system found in the games nicely.

I prefer Strange Journey overall, and recognize the superior gameplay design of Nocturne, but otherwise SMT 1/2 are my second favorites in the franchise. The sheer sense of scale SMT1 lends to 2 is staggering. Combined, they are one of the best video game stories of all time.

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What the HECK are these things?

>>122882365
Fashion.

>>122882365
miniature pizza cutters

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>>122882365
It's cat food

>>122882365
Speakers.

>>122882365
It looks like that little clasp extending from the center of each donut can be rotated along the half-circle groove, presumably to release the mechanism and detach the breastplate and each pant leg individually.

>>122882365
It's probably what connects the suit. I'm pretty sure Kaneko mentioned every part of the Embryons suit can be removed individually but its never shown in game.

Seraph is just the suit without any other parts connected

>>122879363
>The sheer sense of scale SMT1 lends to 2 is staggering. Combined, they are one of the best video game stories of all time.

I always find that Atlus are great at making direct sequels like I to II, IS to EP and DDS1 to DDS2. When they make a standalone game its great but Atlus are one of the few developers that can make a great direct sequel.

>>122887529
Bodes well for Final, then.

>>122889770
If this were pre-2008 Atlus maybe. Since then we've been treated to such sequel gems as Devil Survivor 2, Persona Q, and Dancing All Night which are less than reassuring.

>>122890386
That anon was talking about how they make good direct sequals, P1, DeSu2 and dancing are not that.

And DeSu2 is a good game.

>>122891146
The sheer amount of high damage you can score, with Jungo on a crit Assassinate with Phys Amp, Ares Aid, and Crit Up, on someone who is weak to physicals, is hilarious. It's why I use Jungo, even though I don't like his voice, despite the fact it fits him. He's literally pure physical power, and nothing else.

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>The tone of the conversation is getting better. You may be able to improve it further...
>Arioch interrupted the conversation!
>But Orochi did not like its way of talking!
>Orochi is angry! Fix it fast!
>Arioch interrupted the conversation!
>But Orochi did not like its way of talking!
>"FUCK THIS WE'RE DONE TALKING!"

goddammit arioch

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I've come so far so I could see this game end.

But in the end, it doesn't even matter.

This bitch is too hard for me to fight.

And I don't wanna grind. It doesn't even maaaaaaaaatter.

>>122897264
dude seriously?

just blast one with a physical or whatever then use an area elemental spell to wipe out the rest

>>122897264
>And I don't wanna grind. It doesn't even maaaaaaaaatter.
It makes the battle a walk in the park though
especially with the Null mantras

>>122897264
I was underleveled for this fight. I made heavy use of the elemental null skills. It was a damn fun fight.

>>122897264
That boss is ridiculously easy. Have characters wipe out one core then have another character use a ma-dyne spell of the element of the destroyed core.

>>122897687

The game is evil because I realize now at the very end I should have made the ice guy learn the fire shit and made the fire guy learn the ice shit.

>>122897738

Yeah Physical Repel is great because it completely cancels out her turn if she uses Attack or Skull Cleave.

>>122897625

Thats a really good idea. I assumed all of the orbs reflected physical (even if they did I have that Last Word skill) I'm a dumbass.

>>122897264
That fight isn't hard at all. Kill one of the elemental ones, then use that respective elemtent (kill the fire one, use Maragidyne to finish off the rest.)

>>122898064
You should have learned that at the start.

>>122898064
>The game is evil because I realize now at the very end I should have made the ice guy learn the fire shit and made the fire guy learn the ice shit
How the fuck did you even manage to get this far in the game without having that done first?

>>122898178

Well I know now for the second one. The [element] Resistance skill is the part of the very last mantra in any given elemental skill tree. No way I could know that.

>>122898238

There was always a way to beat a boss without doing that. I just used shield skills. Some bosses I would have to chip away damage slowly and it would take a long time.

>>122897264
This boss was actually pretty fun for me because I went in without any multitarget attacks.

why is alcor a useless retard in the triangulum arc

poor yamato

>>122898714
>Why is everybody a useless retard in DeSu2

>>122898714
Everybody who isn't Yamato is useless retard, period.

Though it seemed like Alcor screwing him over turned into some kind of running gag.

>>122898969
>Though it seemed like Alcor screwing him over turned into some kind of running gag.
I noticed that and I seem to be one of the few people who didn't find it funny. Particularly taken into account that Alcor and the other characters never gave a shit about how he felt about anything yet jumped through hoops to be nice to Miyako who didn't deserve it.

>>122900165
sounds like real life
>guy has a shitty time
>who cares suck it up
>woman has a shitty time
>everyone rushes to put her on a pedestal

>>122897264
What settings are you using to emulate this? Because holy shit it looks good.

>>122900534
Miyako didn't even have a hard time. Everyone uncritically accepted her from the get-go and she had a huge support network that Yamato never had. She was the one pushing them away and causing a hard time for herself by refusing to communicate.

She clearly had a better childhood than him too given how much more socially adjusted she is.

>>122900863
>She clearly had a better childhood than him too given how much more socially adjusted she is.
or she's just borderline Sue and therefore isn't allowed to have real flaws that might reflect negatively on her.

>>122901495
>borderline

Why does Atlus insist on adding new Mary Sues to ports?

>>122902916
The Japanese audience loves these "director's waifu" characters. Or at least they don't hate them as much as a civilized society should.

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>>122902916
I know Miyako resonates well with the bad fanfic crowd in both Japan and the west, but is Marie popular for any reason?

>>122903338
>DONUT STEEL.jpg

>>122902916
What ports did they add Mary Sues to?

>>122903338
Bunny changed over the course of the game. By the time he meets Miyako, he wouldn't want to say "no" anymore.

I'm just making shit up, I don't know.

>>122903543
Her chawanmushi event was a ripoff of his takoyaki event too.
In both cases Yamato's was better.

>>122894384
I want to marry Walter. Every morning he would greet me by saying hoy to me.

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>>122862843
Too many.

>>122902916
Because they try to pander to the homo and straight audiences

>>122903338
>pic
The sad part in Yamato's case is if you say he has the right to accept it, he doesn't agree, and if you say he doesn't, he agrees.

>>122904043
that doesn't even make sense in context of their question. they're talking about Marie and Miyako.

>>122904239
>implying Marie and Miyako aren't futas

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Just when I thought /r/megaten couldn't get faggier, they now have an all male board chatroom where they share dick pics. I wonder if DIC is there.

>>122904413
Stay there, we don't care.

>>122904413
why are you telling us this

>>122904413
Always knew that r/megaten was trying to set us up and get everyone here to look gay

>>122904531
What do you mean? Every few months one of us goes there to reassure ourselves that our dying board is better by talking about how much persona 4 is there.

>>122904531
Well, it made me laugh desu senpai

>>122904613
But everyone here is gay? Trap flynn pictures and group masturbation session aren't memes. They were staples of the board.

>>122904492
I'm from here, not there you idiot.

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>>122904864
Who do you think you're fooling meme man?

>>122905007
By going there you are tainted. Stay there.

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>>122905078
Deny it all you like. It still happened.

>>122905007
You went there so you are unclean. It's worse than Isabeau reading manga.

>>122905082
Because what this board obviously has is too many members, apparently.

>>122905575
Lets be honest. Most people here go there too. There's just a small dedicated group who don't.

>>122905470
desu senpai you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded

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>>122863651
l feel like most of the neutral routes are a whole lot more of "nothing" and humanity doesn't learn shit, in IV, it was different since there'd be still demons around and it'd be quite interesting kind of life, in SJ, l liked both chaos and law, but since law was literally humanity reaching a collective Nirvana, it was my favorite ending, hell it changed my chaosfag heart, Gloria! Gloria

>>122905776
>Most people here go there too.
Uh, no.
Why would I go to a board that jerks off P4 and can't even play a SMT game made before 2003?
Besides Reddit is only useful for things like finance or solving computer troubles.

>>122906075
I hate to break it to you, but that's a meme, not something that actually goes on. Them jerking off p4 hasn't been the case for well over a year. Most of our dedicated posters here moved there after the exodus, and now persona is like a side interest there at best.

>>122906291
Prove it, anonymous shitposter.

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>>122905962
Even if you go against his will, you will inevitably be ground up in his schemes. Praise the scheming one.

>>122904405
That would make them much better honestly

>>122906291
>Go to r/megaten
>There's like 7 threads about Persona, even one about #FE, talking about Soejima and Meguro, or just general discussion
Lame

>>122906702
>>122906430

https://www.reddit.com/r/megaten/

Don't be stupid. You can see yourself that p4 threads have few responses.

>>122906827
>>122906291
>Literally shilling Reddit
It's shits like you that make me want to pick The White.

>>122907726
/u/crimsonfist101, we know its you. ;-)

>>122907939
literally who

>>122904117
that's devil survivor's dialog choices in a nutshell
for the most part, they're just there to create the illusion of choice, while the actual choices are what battles you choose and when

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>>122908012
>claims to not be redditor
>gamergator

Fuck off.

>>122907939
Look, I hate Yuri. If you like that place so much, stay there.

>>122908139
>>gamergator
how did you work that one out?

>>122908139
nice meme

>>122908143
Who said anything about yuri? What are you even talking about?

>>122908274
>Knows reddit better than he knows 4chan
just leave.

>>122908227
It being obvious. Go back to reddit.

>>122908139
kek

>>122908314
Whut? You used what I'm assuming is a reddit meme of some kind, and are accusing other people of being redditors? I legitimately don't know what you mean.

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whoo cares

>>122908056
DeSu2's do matter in what points you get to level up their fate.

This general is circling the drain.

>>122908742
Even then it's almost always a matter of telling them what they want to hear.

>>122908748
yeah we should all go to reddit /shilling

>>122908742
I may be remembering it wrong, but those just affect weaknesses and shit right?
They don't actually have any influence on the story

>>122908909
They also affect who you can recruit and endings and shit

>>122908583
>>>/u/

>>122908909
They affect endings. I think you're shunted into the worst end if you don't do any.

>>122909023
I know what yuri is. I'm saying it has nothing to do with anything.

>>122909103
not necessarily.

>>122909248
Depends on your perception of worst I guess

>>122908056
I remember a dialogue choice like that is literally the make or break point for Gin's route in DeSu1. But in that one the story is actually good.

>>122909180
>/u/crimsonfist101
>>>/u/
You cannot seriously be this dense.

>>122909524
What?

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>>122909524
So... its a joke about periods? bretty gud 10/10, you graduated edgy school. LMAO. ROFL

>>122909524
Is this a reddit thing

>>122903338
They needed to interact more, the only time she was entertaining.

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>>122900737

Oh thats not my screenshot, m8. I myself am emulating at below 480p.

>>122910419
looks cute

>>122910419
Lel, if it plays at a decent speed with little to no lag, I can deal with bad quality. No issue to me.

>>122910404
How difficult would it be to persuade them into a threesome?

>>122911414
Moderate. They'd probably compete for your attention in bed. Probably wouldn't end well

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>>122911414
would they even know what a threesome is?

you might lose your dick if they start fighting over it

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>>122911389

The more enemies on screen, the more it lags.

Great motivator to fight battles as efficiently as possible. Its like I'm getting a real world tangible effect from doing good in the game. This is some experimental game design shit right here.

DDS probably has the worst emulation lag out of all Megaten games, and not much can be done about it

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>tfw I've been playing Aeon Genesis' translation this entire time
Do I need to start playing Orden's version or should I continue?

>>122913461
patch/download the rom and match its name to the save

Why do we even have the pastebins?

>playing SMTIV, trying to get all demons
>on neutral/chaos NG+ you have access to a bunch of demons like the JDF and any demon that requires returning to Blasted/Infernal Tokyo (like Kartikeya and Izanami)
>law: no NG+ exclusive demons, only law-only demons are Mastema and Azazel

God damn it's like that in Raidou 2 as well, it's one thing to not like a route but the devs themselves give Law barely any exclusive content or demons. Fuck, in SMTIV Law you can't even use the Perpetual Reactor to do anything, locking off tons of content right from the getgo.

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>>122914090
Ideally, so we can point people in the direction to get basic info and have access to soundtracks/artbooks. Although they're both hella out of date so I'm not sure that's even true anymore.

With SJ NG+, should I bother getting sources off of demons early game? I'm mostly fusing off demons who I never got due to dark light alignment and Not bothering to get.

Also Man I miss all the sources I hoarded with my previous save. Should've not saved over it(Miss out some guns because not enough of the assist forma), and all the Damn Sub Apps.
>>122914429

>>122915405
Don't bother with weak demon sources.

Someone has the new famitsu scans of FINAL? nobody has them for some reason, not even siliconera.

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>>122915859
this?

>>122915859
they were posted last thread

>>122916469
that's one fat lookin' fat guy

>>122915859
http://personacentral.com/shin-megami-tensei-iv-final-famitsu-scans-feature-returning-characters-story-scenes/

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>>122916589
This >>122916469 wasn't posted in the last thread and the full version of pic related is not there either

>>122916892
That's a woman

>>122916953
That is clearly a Buddha.

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>>122916469

Do I import IV Final and spoil myself on the game even though I don't understand Jap, or just wait for the localized release?

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>>122917219

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>>122897264
I had trouble with her too since i didn't want to grind, the grinding location is shit too.
It's one of the few games where i refused to fight all the hidden bosses.

DDS2 on the other hand was fun as fuck. All of the hidden bosses were great.

>Go fight Vishnu and Shiva
>Get absolutely fucking destroyed
>Grind
>Fight them again
>Get absolutely fucking destroyed
>Grind
>Fight them again
>Get absolutely fucking destroyed
>Grind a lot
>Fight them again
>tfw you beat a strong boss

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>>122917389

>>122917389
Fat thing is called Miroku, pony tail bird thing is called Sukuna Hikona

>>122917389
That's Odin!?
Not digging these designs very much.
Even Kanko's purple cape man was a better rendition somehow.

>>122917859
I dunno man I give it like a 9 out of 11

>>122917391
It's not about level it's about figuring out their gimick.

>>122917558
>Digital Devil Service

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>>122916938
>nozomi in the background with Obayrion (not sure on spelling. Fairy king dude)
So we'll see what she's doing as Danu. Cool. I bet she's a final boss for the anarchy path.

>>122917702
>Miroku
>Japanese for "Maitreya Buddha": as prophesied by the Buddha before entering nirvana.

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>>122911653
>that ass on Miyako
Saved for later.

>>122911983
But what if you're up against a boss whose whole shtick is to spawn more and more enemies?

>>122917391
>tfw still have not defeated Shiva or Vishnu in DDS2
>tfw it's been years since I turned on my PS2
I'm emulating FFXII right now, but damn. I think emulation is the only way for me to experience games I missed out on. Oh well, such is life.

>>122903208
Didnt Satomi Tadashi get a lot of shit for self inserting in order to fuck his waifu?

Also Marie addition on the anime single handlely let Yu out of the first place in character polls for making Marie his waifu.

>>122920191
That was a little less overt though. Plus Tamaki is actually a good character so it balances out a bit.

>>122917859
They look too much like NPCs, not demons. I don't know if that makes sense at all, but that's how Doi's demon designs strike me.

>>122920672
Well, Kaneko drew his demons in the same style as his humans too, it's just that his overall style changed a lot through the years while old demon art kept being reused, including with other artists drawing humans in many games, resulting in demons looking very different from the human characters stylistically, but I don't think they ever set out to do that.

>>122920672
>They look too much like NPCs, not demons.
I thought they were NPCs, like spear guy becomes Odin, since they look the exact fucking same.

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>>122760707
Woah, another collaboration? Neato.

>>122897264
>>122897625

I beat it. Thanks for the tips brehs. Multi-target spells pretty much win the battle if you time the attacks so she loses multiple orbs at once.

Onto the next Shin Megumi Tensei: DDS2.

>>122924915
This truly was a Digital Devil Saga

I want to cum inside Scathach's Scathach

>>122760707
>No comment from the makers.

Does this mean no interest or that there could be sensitive information or what?

>>122926643
They probably just didn't answer.

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DDS1 to DDS2 is a weird transition. The aesthetics are ever so slightly different. I guess you could say this is a new digital devil saga, if you will.

>>122915859
There's a thread of them all on /r/megaten

>>122930015
I mean DDS2 does take place in the real world

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>>122930163

>I've completed over 300 random encounter dungeons in VR

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So I beat Merkabah and now I just beat the first demon in Lucifer's Palace. That fucking demon was tough compared to the others in purgatory, how is the lucifer fight gonna be?

>>122931065
Arguably the toughest non-DLC fight.

>>122931065
Incredibly easy. 2/3 of his attacks are physical, so if you repel phys every turn he more or less gets no moves.

>>122931130
shiet

should i play IMAGINE?